Climbing soloq

[gusty bear]

this is honestly just the flawed matchmaking system at play

the better you are the worse your teammates and better the opponents

i had a great season start -> shit players -> ragequit -> came back 2 months later -> decent players

i think the best solution is honestly just take a break and dont tryhard every game

its just bad for your mental, just accept some games are stacked against you no matter if you perform like faker or not

[tender skiff]

Literally feels that way

[tender skiff]

It’s the fact a lot of the games are winnable if the players can just play a little bit better or listen to pings

[gusty bear]

its not a feeling its how the matchmaking is coded, after they tweaked the inting sion matchmaking

[tender skiff]

I kinda gave up pinging when teammates overextend or are fighting whilst outnumbered or without me

[gusty bear]

people used to int on sion and get insane players while still playing to win

you used to easily get 70%+ winrates

so they changed the matchmaking system to take into account kda and game performance

[tender skiff]

Feels like only way to exploit the mm is playing premade with good players

slim chance of getting destroyed by a better pre

[gusty bear]

yeah, mid and jungle is the best pre

for soloq jungle is the best to climb

even tho mid is my best role by far i have an easier time climbing with jungle

the resource access aswell as game deciding summoner is op

thats kinda the best advice i can give

[tender skiff]

I’ve been playing jungle, a lot of my games there will be a two losing lanes

Way too much to handle

Only games I won where the lane was losing but they were listening to my pings

[gusty bear]

one thing i will say is 66 games is not alot at all, you just need to play more tbh

[tender skiff]

yeah I know

[gusty bear]

even with the shit matchamking you will eventually climb

[tender skiff]

It’s mentally taxing

I’m very casual I got 700 games this szn mostly hex or pvp

[gusty bear]

yeah it, i play music in the background whenever i play, when i die i just vibe out

[tender skiff]

what’s your go to pick for climbing?

[gusty bear]

champion?

[tender skiff]

Yeah

My data a bit poo idk why post send 3mins delayed

[gusty bear]

depends on the acc or whatever recent champs came out

i can play anything

current chall acc is zed gnar and corki( he is op. rn)

but i main jayce, morg, viktor and other champs on other accs

pantheon aswell

[tender skiff]

I tend to stick to assassins not sure why maybe for the gold and kills

I could try corki I haven’t really touched him since last year

[gusty bear]

ik the corki and rumble have bad winrates, but its the type of games u have above

[tender skiff]

I got m7 zed recently when I play him I’m not really consistent

Maybe because I’m picking him against 2 tanks in ranked

Only problem I have with zed is late game

[gusty bear]

he shreds tanks, he just needs items

[tender skiff]

going all in and leaving with barely any hp or I get stunned from the mass cc and die

[gusty bear]

well if u want zed tips, watch n1 zed in china

he is insanely good

learn a thing or 2

1 thing about zed on wild rift is he can tp back to his r shadow instantly unlike on pc

[tender skiff]

I have but I need to play all the time to remain consistent

[gusty bear]

u can r back and then w forwards so you dont get cc chained

[tender skiff]

I haven’t played him a few days and it feels like I do no dmg when I full combo

[gusty bear]

yeah zed is very weak early

[tender skiff]

Yeah but sometimes all their abilities just land on me because my team won’t engage

[gusty bear]

like i said you want 2 -3 items on zed before he becomes a strong champ

[gusty bear]

well one thing you will learn if you watch the china zed

is he never goes in 1st

he always waits for his team to fight, enemy uses key abillities

then he goes in

zed isnt an engager

[tender skiff]

that might be my issue then

[gusty bear]

he is a finisher

[gusty bear]

if the target is issolated then by all means go in

[tender skiff]

Some ranked games with zed not a lot tho

[gusty bear]

but in a teamfight zed should be played like a mage

cause thats what he is

an ad damage caster assasin mage

only go in to finish people off

[tender skiff]

Sometimes my team won’t engage or have very weak team pressure

[gusty bear]

then push sidelane

zed is the best 1v1 champ in the game

so they have to send 2 or more people

[tender skiff]

I should push side lanes but enemy loves to come rushing to me

[gusty bear]

but zed is also the best mobillity assasin

so play with your shadows

bait the enemy

use vision and bushes to hide your shadows

reset your w on enemies

[tender skiff]

Had this good game but couldn’t end late due to lilia scaling and sion rankings

U normally play him in mid or jgl?

[gusty bear]

both

[tender skiff]

I played him in jgl a lot but his early prettty weak unless I get lucky with my gank

or have a good counter tank

[gusty bear]

one thing ill say, is i dont recommend that build for jgl

bad for clear

[tender skiff]

I sold trinity

That’s why

They were closing in to me a lot and I needed something to slow them

[gusty bear]

trinity is very good at taking objectives aswell

eclipse u dont need

only mid zed should build eclipse

[tender skiff]

I see I’ll keep that in mind

What’s ur normal build path in jgl

I normally go ghost, trinity, serpent, serylda and last time situational

[tender skiff]

how come no ghost blade for mid

[gusty bear]

top one is mid build, bottom jungle

[tender skiff]

I’ve seen a lot of Chinese players no getting it for mid

even tho it helps with roaming to sidelines to gank

[gusty bear]

your priority is securing gold

plates is guaranteed gold, roaming isnt

watch the china zed guy

you will understand

[tender skiff]

Was told different by zed mains seasons ago

[tender skiff]

I’ve been skipping his early game to watch his late game

[gusty bear]

roaming is good, but only if you know 100% you will get something for it

[tender skiff]

do u try gank when u jgl or u only go for for it if u can secure a kill or assist

[gusty bear]

because you are giving up a potential plate (+150) and a wave of gold and xp

gold and xp are the most important things for zed

he needs 2-3 items like i said

[tender skiff]

sometimes there will be a team fight where I farm nearby where my duo lane r losing whilst enemy duo are healthy

[gusty bear]

if you know a play is losing then no reason to go there

[tender skiff]

Lmao it ends up my team flaming me for not helping them

[gusty bear]

you arent getting anything you are just minimising losses

[tender skiff]

even tho I know I won’t be able to secure a kill or assist

basically play more selfish as zed

[gusty bear]

doesnt matter, you play your game you make the best play for yourself

if the best play for you is to help then help

if the best play is to take 3 tower plates and let your bot die

let them die

[tender skiff]

Well then guess I’ll have to mute chat if I play more self oriented

[gusty bear]

its soloq, u get monkeys for teammates

[tender skiff]

what’s your counter pick to cc champs? I have lost a hefty amount of games due to cc

[gusty bear]

always play to improve yourself

[tender skiff]

especially maokai and nautlus

[gusty bear]

i mean i didnt get 66% on zed by roaming to help my team every time i can

[tender skiff]

Understandable

[gusty bear]

i got it by making the best play to win the game

[tender skiff]

Should I farm 2-3 items then

[gusty bear]

aslong as you are making more then the enemy then thats a good play

[tender skiff]

As my main goal then play for team

[gusty bear]

if enemy laner roaming and got 2 assists thats 100 gold and some xp

meahwhile you got 2 waves of gold and xp + 2 plates (150 gold each)

so who really won?

[tender skiff]

Never knew u get exp from tower plates tbh

[gusty bear]

no xp is from waves

[tender skiff]

Ah right

How do u deal with cc or tanky comps

it’s one of my banes as zed

[gusty bear]

ignore the tanks early, focus the squishes

once u get serylda and cleaver

you can one shot them

[tender skiff]

thing is I can’t get close

[gusty bear]

go 1st strike and farm free gold from them

[tender skiff]

3 rank champs are peeling the adc and sup

Lemme send ss

[gusty bear]

well if they have a team that wants to stick as 5

punish them by forcing them to match you on sidelane

[tender skiff]

That’s basically most of my games but my team has no pressure sometimes

This matchup was really difficult I couldn’t do much

[gusty bear]

well like i said, some times you can play like faker and it wont matter

but its still good habit to get into

eventually it will affect the game

[tender skiff]

Gotta accept I can’t win all my games

[gusty bear]

if it helps you

i went from a 60% winrate down to 52% and back to 55% this season

my corki was 23% winrate

[tender skiff]

It’s happening to me rn

The moment I reached 60 I kept losing more than winning

I’m currently at 54

Have u gon chally soloq?

[gusty bear]

yeah

[tender skiff]

How many games did it take to get there

[gusty bear]

see the difference in games

[gusty bear]

from last season to this

25 marks differnce took an additional 160 games

normally i get challenger within 400

this is a smurf dont mind the other seasons

anyway my point is i got hardstuck master 1 24lp

and then lost all the way down to master 3 2 lp

and i was fuming

[tender skiff]

Yeah that’s 22 lp down

Knew a friend who was 1 mark from sov and dropped to 80

[gusty bear]

yeah heres the thing

my peak rank is 80

i can get sov

but ive had enough of 517 games of filth

i dont need another 120 to get sov

[tender skiff]

yeah that is alot of mental grind

I see a lot of sovs with 1k at 50wr

Do u occasionally go tank champs for jgl?

[gusty bear]

no never in soloq

always a carry

[tender skiff]

I saw amumu and rammus having high wr in China server but they r most likely pre

[gusty bear]

oh ammumu is the best jungler rn

[tender skiff]

do u know a consistent bruiser champ?

[gusty bear]

u can go amumu

[tender skiff]

Would love to if team follows up but as u said I mostly play carry champs in soloq

[gusty bear]

amumu liandries into full tank is a decent carry

thats why he is the best rn his dmg is too high for a tank

i forgot about him since he is perma banned in my elo

[gusty bear]

wukong is the best rn

i dont play them tho, i mainly play zed and pantheon jungle and just snowball the game

always aswell

herald > 1st drake

if u have mid or top prio you should always be getting herald

obviously if your top and mid are both losing and bot is winning then you dont really have a choice but to get dragon

[tender skiff]

Pantheon has crazy burst potential especially against tanks only reason I don’t play him is I have to position really well during the late game

[tender skiff]

Noted thanks

[gusty bear]

herlad is just 450 gold for free and 1st tower

great for snowballing in soloq

[tender skiff]

I do get a lot of blame for going herald instead of drag

even tho they’re losing but it happens

[gusty bear]

also opens up the map for jungle invades

aka more snowballing

[gusty bear]

remember

best play to win the game

not best play to please your team

[tender skiff]

Oh yeah u mentioned u played viktor what’s ur build path

I’m having mixed builds

[gusty bear]

depends on enemy comp

theres like 3 builds

i ahvent played him since the nerfs tho

theres a grasp, liandries + riftmaker build

theres 1st strike, ludens + lichbane + infinity orb

[tender skiff]

I also see builds that go for soul stealer first

[gusty bear]

and then the poke build with aery but no lichbane

i dont like it, but thats my preferance

id always check what n1 china has for a champ

[tender skiff]

I assume this is for playing against tanky comps

[gusty bear]

they usually cook up the best ones

[gusty bear]

yeah, into assasin and lots of frontline

[tender skiff]

Grasp is pretty interesting

could give it a try

[gusty bear]

let me see what it was

its good into yassuo, akali stuff like that

[tender skiff]

So assassins and champs who can close in on u

One final question what’s ur itemisation on syndra

[gusty bear]

You can probably swap out rylias for something else

its just what i liked

[tender skiff]

ah 3 green I know this build will be hella slow with a lot of assists

could give it a try in ranked or PvP blind

[gusty bear]

its more of a combat mage build

you wont be oneshotting anyone

but they cant 1 shot u either

so great vs tanks and assasins

[tender skiff]

A lot of assist then I presume

Do u build ludens on syndra?

[gusty bear]

i dont even remeber what acc i play her on

this is what i have on this acc

but im pretty sure this is the default

[tender skiff]

I have been playing her but without ludens

I prob replace it with antishield or horizon that’s just me

[simple horizon]

Ludens helps early

Cuz you don't have that much damage

[tender skiff]

would you sell it late game for something else

After getting ur passive

[simple horizon]

I usually do

[gusty bear]

Yeah I'm not that big on Syndra, have a hard time carrying on her in soloq

Best ask others here

[tender skiff]

Yeah same here racking up kills but can’t end games

[gusty bear]

Morgana is kinda my Syndra

Better for objectives and utility

Syndra just has the one shot and that's it I feel

[tender skiff]

She’s so good but way too team dependent

[gusty bear]

Morgana is probably the champ I roam on every wave

[tender skiff]

If the lanes are losing all u can do is delay the inevitable or steal objectives if u can

[gusty bear]

Mainly cause u start roaming while the wave dies to your w

So you have mega tempo

Yeah that's the thing tho, you force the enemy to lane 3v2 really

You just shoving waves and joing down to bot throw a q and w

If they land it's a kill if they don't then oh well back mid

Rinse and repeat

[tender skiff]

Do u play any bruisers?

[gusty bear]

She shines into alot of melees and short range

[tender skiff]

Or only assassins for carrying

[gusty bear]

Gnar and Rumble yeah

[tender skiff]

ah I’m not very good at top

Feels very statcheck or champ dependent

any in particular in jgl

[gusty bear]

Yeah top is a stack check

That's why I play the best stat checkers xd

[tender skiff]

Guess if u can’t beat them join them

[gusty bear]

Gnar and Rumble stat check every top laner

[tender skiff]

Haven’t played those but I could practice them in PvP

should learn wukong since u mentioned him too

[gusty bear]

Yeah wukong is mega good top aswell

Good statchecker aswell

I just don't have him

[tender skiff]

Ah fair enough

[gusty bear]

My account doesn't have that many champs, they are like all scattered on different accounts

[tender skiff]

I can try using ur advice when I play jgl zed my winrate have been suffering recently

Thanks for ur time and help

[gusty bear]

Yeah np, i can help vod review some of your games as well for improving if u want

Bored at work anyway

[tender skiff]

I’ll try record but it’s a bit hard since my
Phone is turning potato

[gusty bear]

U can screen share in vc if you're up for it but yeah take your time

[tender skiff]

Will do

[gusty bear]

Watch China rank 1 zed jungle clear aswell

Pretty good for pathing and analysing the map

The faster and more efficient you clear the camps the more time you have to make a play

Everything is about tempo

Gl

[tender skiff]

Watching a jungle zed rn at work

[sage hound]

Stop playing Gwen, afterwards everyone will be thankful so you will be blessed with good teammates

[tender skiff]

@gusty bear just played a game lost because of team, enemy had no inhibitor turrets still lost lmao

This game man

[foggy frigate]

Yo

What elo u in gang

Nvm just saw u posted ur stats

I would say know when to go objs, that’s realistically what wins/loses games 18m+

Don’t get baited by bad fights, and play to keep pressure on enemies

Something I always do on zed, especially if I have early snowball, is deny buffs/camps from enemy jg

Something I realized, especially when tryna hard carry low elo, is if u die, u lose all tempo

Even if ur team runs it, u kinda gotta stay alive before major objs,and always threaten steals etc.

If u die it’s as good as ggs

Most people don’t know how to smite low elo, so stealing isn’t actually that hard, especially on strong smite jgs

[foggy frigate]

Personally I pref overgrowth on zed, I don’t think transcendence has that much value

Late ur cds are already almost non existent, 12 cdr and 15% cdr on q/e isn’t that good compared to raw hp

Jg zed ofc

I don’t know much abt mid zed, not as good as jg

[worn shore]

Just dont play soloq play duo or trio

[foggy frigate]

Yea but solo q for gigachads

[supple lichen]

Go duo-q hyper carry combo. Carry 2v8

on the downside, you cant solo anymore, because every game, the team stats will be 3/12 after minute 3 of the game.

[gusty bear]

classic late game macro

or lack there off

late game all it takes is 1 person to screw up and game is decided

so 1st person to step out of line is enough to lose the entire team the game

theres things like trading elder for baron and forcing an end if inhibs are down (if enemy is forcing an objective with open nexus)

[supple lichen]

fully agree.
that beeing said, late elder>baron, since you can kill enemy team and then push through minions

[gusty bear]

i mean that goes without saying

but if you are on the backfoot better securing baron and trading elder rather than enemy getting both

you can stall with baron and dont engage in fights

enemy will need to split on sides

obviosuly stalling is not something wild rift players have any notion of

[supple lichen]

but mostly, enemy prioritizes for baron, so its easier to get elder, also faster

[supple lichen]

Yes. Enemy has baron? Just go in teamfight, play suicide squad, one by one and rush it down. sarcasm
So sad.

[modest cove]

If you play solo, use a solo lane centric champ.

I recommend spamming mundo and just going for turrets rather than helping your teammates.