#what are folks thoughts?

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junior shell
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I know everyone loves Trinity force but I'm an absolute BoTRK addict. Plus I love the synergy with scorched crown, it tilted a malphite so hard last match, is it a good one?

lapis crystal
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Triforce sky is still broken AF on Darius

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E Auto W Q then ult n the target is alr dead if they are light

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Not even full stacks n u kill them with ult

lapis crystal
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Protobelt

ancient garnet
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Good build if you’re going vs tanks

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Just don’t run this vs 4 adcs

gloomy flower
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@nocturne harbor

nocturne harbor
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This is criminal @gloomy flower

gloomy flower
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he's cooking here ngl

fallow urchin
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I'm afraid this is not good...

Firstly, botrk and BC - you're double dipping gold into similar effects. Iceborn third is weak as well - it's more so a first or second item. People will be transitioning into mid/late game builds while you'll be grabbing an Iceborn. Not sure why you even need it when you have botrk and a cleaver. The second last item is also a very early-game oriented item.

This genuinely looks like suicide in team fights. You have weak early game items that don't even synergise with Darius.

Your runes are also not the absolute worst but why Gathering Storm? Darius has truckloads of damage via his items (if you build correctly). I'm not sure what an extra 20AD will do over Triumph which honestly makes Darius playable in team fights (alongside his reset ult).

junior shell
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I always rush steel plates as Darius

junior shell
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True true, in all honesty black cleaver has felt like deadweight. It's a leftover gear piece from before I added BoTRK and scorched crown, figured I'd still want some armor pen but honestly with the amount of true DMG I have I don't need any pen at all. What do you think about removing BK, going BoTRK-iceborn-scorched crown-spear of sojin-twinguard? I'd be open to swapping out gathering Storm too. Usually I'm real against triumph but this is probably the best top laner for it.

junior shell
# lapis crystal Triforce sky is still broken AF on Darius

Like Triforce does slightly outdmg BoTRK for most Darius combos but tbh 90% of the time I'm just going AA-W-AA-Q, depending on what happens next I either just ult them or press E then rinse and repeat that initial combo. Since I like starting engagements with AAs BoTRK shines wayyy harder for the way I've been playing this champ. It might not be the meta combo but it's just so consistent. They never expect and all in to start with an AA so it's easier to get them to over extend, and if I get cold feet and wanna pull out I still have my E up to pull them outta a spooky ability. But when you start an engagement with E you're putting so many eggs in one basket, what if they flash? Then you're stuck with its long asf cooldown.

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Plus omni vamp gets me feeling all warm and fuzzy inside. I just feel incomplete without it, hell I even run bloodthirster first pick on Urgot. Idc that folks say it's bad, they wrong.

fallow urchin
# junior shell True true, in all honesty black cleaver has felt like deadweight. It's a leftove...

You do realise that Black Cleaver is the only good/viable item for Darius in your build...? Lol. It's so good him since the bleed procs the movement speed. Nothing else in your build performs well.

Why do you need Iceborn? Or, botrk? Or, scorched crown?

Darius doesn't need any of these items to utterly decimate a tank. They're not adding anything. Ergo, poor investment for money. Don't forget that gold / exp is all about investment for power spike/damage. You're overspending and committing your resources to the wrong type of fuel for a vehicle (Darius) that requires alternatives.

ancient garnet
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On the other hand

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bork is cool

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junior shell
# fallow urchin You do realise that Black Cleaver is the only good/viable item for Darius in you...

While I fully agree any one of those three pieces on their own doesnt shine in the meta build, BoTRK-iceborn-scorched crown trifecta synergizes extremely well with this kit. BoTRK sacrifices burst potential of triforce for sustainability (in dmg and healing), iceborn let's you get 1 or 2 more autos off than normal which is super valuable for this builds on hit focus, and the crown not only boosts dmg unpredictability so even if you die ya take em with you, but helps mitigate the lack of armor pen too. With all this true dmg pen is unnecessary, while movement speed would be very beneficial iceborn accomplishes a very similar effect as deadmans plate, just sacrificing burst potential for sustainability.

This shift in performance allows for a shift in gameplay, the meta build seems to rely on all in-ing every engagement, with deadmans and BK giving enough mobility to maybe escape when things go wrong. But with this you can more safely "test the waters", just walk up and AA, if they are willing to stand and trade you get a W off, then proc iceborn, hit with a Q and boom, you've chunked them good, and they have no real option. If they run you've still got ur E, if they're low you still got an ult, if YOURE low you can atleast avoid the next ability with E, and if ur about to get ganked you can atleast coinflip with an ult and hope ur passive+crown finishes them off. BUT, this build turns nasus into a miserable matchup. However every other matchup seems either neutrally or positively effected by this build.

fallow urchin
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Why would you test the waters? You should already have thought out the outcome of the trade before you initiate it.

I think there's a real discrepancy in skill and experience here because you're only handicapping yourself through sub-optimal itemisation.

fossil spindle
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why not just go jg, phase rush smite ghost and run them down

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triforce is the best Item cuz of all the stats

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ms attack speed ad and bonus dmg on aa

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and hp

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then sunderer sky for burst sustain hp and a lot of ad or steraks for the same reason

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and then tank

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i mean ur items are tank items but they just dont synergize with darius

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iceborn isn't that useful cuz u dont have mana problems and the slow isn't that neccesary unless ur going vs 4/5 ad champs then ofc u can go iceborn into some tank items for fun

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crowns passive doesnt increase ur dps in any real way and u cant really utilize the passive cuz ur supposed to stack the passive and ghost protobelt/run with phase rush onto their backline with q and then one shot them with ult

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so it just doesnt make sense to go crown just for the stats

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also im not sure about gathering storm i personally prefer Triumph for more sustain