#OK Now do Kai'Sa - Itemization

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hasty brook
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Thank you all for your help with my pyke question. Now I'm kind of confused about Kai Sa and I suppose ADC in general. There are all these items! So the base build for her seems to be Duskblade (why?), bloodthirster, solari chargeblade, gluttonous greaves, uhhhh and I forget off the top of my head. This has worked OK so far for me just messing around in PvP. I am doing surprisingly well since a lot of the positioning and knowing when to peace out/stay is the same as Support role.
My Questions:

#1. When do you build different items?
#2. AP Kai Sa? I have seen the top#1 guy in korea build nashor's tooth and manamune. Yes? No? Why or when would you do this?
#3. Should I be building BORK and building anti tank runes? Sett is an absolute menace right now who is doing 2k damage in one hit so IDK what to do against him.
#4. Do you think she can climb as a OTP or are there matchups where she's just going to fail no matter what. I played vs. a good caitlyn and there wasn't a heck of a lot I could do.
#5. What support does she pair well with? Which does she not gain any advantage from?

Thanks in advance,
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celest lotus
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i just started kaisa too so id look forward to knowing what people think. as far as items i just run the 2nd or 3rd set which is just ur normal BT, IE, MR and essence reaver, as i thought those builds look confusing rn. also i think duskblade is just run for the ability haste for her q and e, as well as the nice AD and armour pen. i wouldnt take top ranked loadouts that seriously, since they can be so wacky sometimes. for example, for jinx (my main) its been BT magnetic blaster and runaans, i.e. you shoot fast but you do absolutely no damage or armour pen, an absolutely horrible build imo

heavy ember
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I think people run full AP into super tanky comps because she shreds them

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That’s all I know about Kaisa items though

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hasty brook
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Which ap items work best on her? Nashors? Much bane?

west lantern
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Been wondering the same. Here are some things I’m thinking about…

Kai’Sa gets more powerful once you complete your first max tier item (ie you evolve first ability). So need to decide if you go boots first or item first to balance gold with power / survivability. Boots help you dodge with movement speed, so may be worth getting basic boots first, completing an item, and then upgrading to full boots.

Then because her damage scales with AP (passive plasma stacks) as well as AD (first and second ability take percentage of AD and AP) … you can choose a bit which items to prioritize.

I think in terms of items I’d be looking for a mix of base AD/AP, attack speed (for basic attack damage), and then including some defensive items or other situational items (eg anti heal/shield, armor/magic resist)

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Not an expert on matchups but I just try to focus on good basics like knowing how to freeze the wave (most duo lanes I see in Platinum just always hard push) and playing against cooldowns of the enemy (dodge first and then counter attack). Caitlyn has long range so that can definitely be tough. I currently find KaiSa a bit slow to deal damage before evolving first ability and getting some AS / MS Items, so I tend to play it a bit safer before L6 or 7 unless my support shows they’re good at rooting/slowing/isolating.

formal ridge
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personally i dont go manamune

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i often go nashor into rift / dcap , inifinity and void

hasty brook
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So kinda std mage items

formal ridge
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if you want to trade in lane aggresively you gotta go electrocute

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once you get used to her playstyle you can opt for conq

naive plover
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Mostly depends on how many ap/ad champs ur team already has... but ap is weaker at first then stronger after 3 items

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Besides comp, Ofc i recommend ap, since its not much of a unique champ if u go ad yk...

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And I suggest u to get duskblade for first item even if u go ap later, the item itself is kinda op and u wont be completely useless unlike manamune start😑

hasty brook
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This might be stupid but I find when I itemize against the enemy I do better are there items I should always get? I usually get diskblade or nashors first

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But if I follow a build after that I generally do worse than if I get like maw or crown or whatever

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But that might just be training wheels I guess

naive plover
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For ap, tooth, rift, cap r necessary, other items can be anything u want... manamune, maw, crown, antiheal/antishield ap items, bork, even wits end when ur not very rich , etc

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Btw don listen to the enjoyer, u never go electrocute, ad kaisa perhaps lethal tempo works but conqueror is never wrong for both ap and ad