#Is gwen jungle just dead

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queen helm
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Gwen was broken in general

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Gwen jg was sacrificing laning phase for map control

queen helm
# willow hearth Wdym?

Gwen in top lane has more gold and experience after 2 mins(when first round of jg camps are cleared), meaning you scale safer and faster than jg gwen.

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Meanwhile jg gwen focuses on map control aka ganking, obj, camps. If you lose early map control you scale way slower than laning gwen since u dont have exp and gold income.

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Jg gwen can scale faster if the enemy team has worse macro/map control with ganks and invades

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Basically one way to scale safer but less map control, other less safer with more map control

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Less safe

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Less safer smh

willow hearth
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Lol

queen helm
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I think this makes sense right kekw

willow hearth
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The problem is that gwen isnt good early meaning she doesnt have good ganks or can contest early dragons

queen helm
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Yep

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Really relying on enemy team to trip up early

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And boost ur scaling

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Gwen is similar to jax in the jg pre change

willow hearth
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That sounds like gwen jungle is just bad then tbh

queen helm
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Especially after 3.4b yes

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Gwen jg is good rn simply because her kit is broken

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queen helm
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She has been broken

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I perma ban her

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Just gets a quadra with 2 items cause Gwen things

willow hearth
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Lol i personally havent found gwen broken once tbh but its mostly because shes banned every game

queen helm
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Exactly lmao everyone bans her cause she is too much of a menace

crimson ravine
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Me Gwen mainn

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queen helm
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Jg camps gives more gold than top

willow hearth
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Also she has a good clear again