#Aaron's T16/T20 run compilation

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hardy forum
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no problem

runic dock
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it's hard to know in this game what's actually doing stuff or not

hardy forum
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u have to read and theorycraft

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understand the synergies

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oh yes

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another reason why viper ammo/non-ammo is good

runic dock
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i think i have a good understanding of how stuff works once its explained to me it's just hard to know when testing

hardy forum
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infected land thumbParrot

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2% chance to stiffen enemies for 0.5 seconds when inflicting infest

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it sounds minor but it's good

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yet another reason why viper is good is because it's acid damage

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enemies don't have high acid res

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unlike lightning

runic dock
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i might make a sheet updating what you've been telling me

hardy forum
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lightning is the worst

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it's meta now because gumiho is so good

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but at base, lightning is pretty terrible

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u are forced to build around it

runic dock
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irea only good because gumiho good lightning acolyte?

hardy forum
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yeah kinda

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previously it was titan + kraken

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now it's titan + gumiho

runic dock
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kraken just good for cold build with baphomet ig

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?

hardy forum
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i wouldn't say only good for that

runic dock
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also good physical

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tentacle build is still strong from my testing

hardy forum
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yeah

runic dock
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there's the tsunami wave orb build for cold and tentacle for physical

hardy forum
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kraken is just generally good

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i don't use her as often because.... no particular reason actually

runic dock
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from my testing most of her damage is coming from tentacle seed

hardy forum
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she fills the AoE DPS slot which gumiho already satisfies

runic dock
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in a tentacle build

hardy forum
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i guess that would be the reason

runic dock
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gumiho too good

hardy forum
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most op monster

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buff to other monsters when

runic dock
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oh uhh quick question what would you take between the swappable hero soul upgrades that increases temperament rarity or skill attribute rarity

hardy forum
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gumiho and abundance not op, other monsters just weak kappa

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skill attribute rarity 100%

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cause i have relatively high upgrade for every temp

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everyone is at least 6% legendary chance

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which is good enough for me

runic dock
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i don't have enough acolytes with skills that can get rarity on attributes

hardy forum
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oh

runic dock
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ig i'll upgrade that last

hardy forum
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then go for temp rarity

runic dock
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since there's expansions for other upgrades i should probably grab

hardy forum
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all my monsters except bapho, gumiho, beholder

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have lv 11+ on all skills

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bapho is lv 11 on basic, scythe, pentagram
lv 8 on soul expulsion, lv 6 on soul storm

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gumiho is lv 11 on spirit bead, lv 10 on basic, lv 5 on rest

hardy forum
runic dock
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i have all my acolytes on 3 skills only and barely breaking levels 8 9 and 10

hardy forum
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my c.acolytes are
abundance - lv 11 basic, mist, greed orb
joy - lv 11 basic, barrier, spirit exploitation
peace - lv 11 basic, galaxy slash, lv 6 laser
brave - lv 11 barrier, suppression, lv 5 basic and laser

runic dock
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im trying to get all my main 3 skills to 8 first and then get the attribute

hardy forum
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making good use of dat rarity upgrade

runic dock
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but some skills that carry the character i have at 9 or 10

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i should probably go to 11 now that i tihnk about it

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no point in stopping at 10

hardy forum
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some attributes only have heroic/legendary rarity

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like penetration / ricochet in some cases

runic dock
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i see

hardy forum
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well

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doesn't offer much to teams would be more accurate

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by the time u get her u would've been dead if u didn't have good AoE

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but that's exactly what she provides, AoE

runic dock
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What about taking peace on 1-1

hardy forum
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i guess u could try it

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i think you'd probably die on t20

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but that's just my opinion

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peace temp is really good tho

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resistances for entire team

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most runs, i corrupt peace and transfer temp onto someone else

runic dock
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Same

runic dock
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Reasoning for salvo team composition instead of defense for the t20 gumiho build?

hardy forum
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salvo is good because it gives more ammo + firing spd but u lose out on a lot of tankiness

runic dock
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👍

runic dock
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hi aaron

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i made an updated? maybe gumiho t20 build with some of your suggestions

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this is mainly for my own reference but pls lmk if there's something wrong

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Swapped a few items around, main reason I switched a lot of the Medusa skills was because I wanted to gain full formation buffs, and her personal damage seems relatively similar

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making my own sheets helps me stay organized as well so i don't have to keep coming back to this chat

hardy forum
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u don't want transcendance

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corrosion ray reduces acid res of enemies hit

runic dock
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I see

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Got the t20 clear with it this morning

runic dock
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some of the rebecca immortality dual blessings are really stupid

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you can get like 30 seconds of immortality

hardy forum
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yeah

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but u can also not die in the first place with floria

runic dock
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i take both floria and rebecca now oof

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floria blessing and rebecca revive + advent to abuse that mechanic where you activate advent at the end of immortality

hidden cosmos
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H

frank ruin
merry flicker
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What would be a replacement for gumi?

frank ruin
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No one

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Phox is AOE clear and abundance ST burst

frank ruin
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today im building a mono fire team

frank ruin
frank ruin
frank ruin
gusty crater
frank ruin
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titan is quite good, just, phox and abondanza are stronger

wild ravine
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who tf is phox

frank ruin
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Gumiho

twilit oak
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Any beholder t20 guide?

frank ruin
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you can take beholder and phox and follow one of the guides here

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or i can make one but will be for next friday

native flame
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Who is a good replacement for abundance if you don't get her with your gumiho guide

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Also thank you for your guides they've been a huge help

frank ruin
native flame
frank ruin
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She is main there

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It's a build for her

frank ruin
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from whom do you want the build

frank ruin
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or, you can go with joy and overheal with barriers and heals

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tldr; someone to deal damage or endure, no buffers

native flame
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Thank you!! You're the best

frank ruin
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i had the best team builder master, aaron

native flame
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I must agree

frank ruin
round cargo
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Ty

fossil echo
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Does anyone have build for main Jorm and Cerberus?

frank ruin
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i can cook one tomorrow or wed

kindred frost
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cook me

frank ruin
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Served hot

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In bed

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:Tile69:

frank ruin
frank ruin
frank ruin
sterile juniper
fossil echo
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Literally, I play this game to get the progress by copying others builds MRT

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I have little to none understanding of how the system works oof

frank ruin
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without light acolytes this is going to be a t16, acid is already bad scaling, and you need at least peace to make it work. Ill explain once i finish the run

fossil echo
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Okei

fossil echo
frank ruin
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@fossil echo

fossil echo
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Many thanks

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I have a reference at long last

frank ruin
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btw when i say t16, the trials i dont take are; union of light (the more difficult one), element sorting and phase shift. (all out war too but thats only available when you have all other 19)

sterile juniper
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@frank ruin any medusa guides? Acolytes are fine

frank ruin
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my fav build, added holiness. Im going to update my build (from v356) and post it. It requires brave as companion

frank ruin
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T16 Medusa Holiness
Tested in t16, easy clear. Can do t20 and for easier run you can change chimera for abundance with pool and ball, focus damage of basic attack in passives and physical damage. Items can be the same, for temps assassin or enki or something with atk. Medusa is fine with atk, but ap clears faster due to more bounces, if you prefer ap, just grab ring+ring, ring+neck and something else, masteries are the ones with ap scaling (so the opposites to the ones showed here)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTTYxnWzk6W5Jplhgm6CV6Apz5U85JrHoBo_65nCcVHZjJbdSIJoKCuB0Mr6EEeC6WJ5mhc3dcMRkZ8/pubhtml?gid=137192293&single=true

image.png
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blank spaces such as relic and goddess active and revive can be anything in t16, i use body imprint to farm. For t20 prob want something more useful

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another note: viper ammo and non ammo, floria blessing and emma talent and advent is a good goddesses combo

frank ruin
fossil echo
round cargo
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Any beholder comps?

fossil echo
round cargo
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Scorched earth and ray?

frank ruin
frank ruin
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that build is specifically for brave to buff the entire party with medusa

round cargo
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Ok

frank ruin
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to look for guides just search
in:#ds-guides from:aaronchm or from:himari_nyuri has:link

round cargo
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Gotcha

violet wharf
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Are there any builds that don’t require a corrupted acolyte? I don’t have the thing that lets you select them reliably yet.

fossil echo
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By saying that, I recommend you to follow any available build, by mixing some heroes. I assumed that you don't need the build to be strong enough to face T16 or T20.

frank ruin
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yeah, there are guides without light acolytes for beginners, but for late game ideally you want at least 1 if not 2 or 3

tepid field
frank ruin
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I look cool

tepid field
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Understood

frank ruin
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Tbh if you don't get abundance in W1 you are unable to complete the run, and still struggle in FUTA Luca fight, so the only advantage I see in using the build is to brag about it. Adding any other 2 DPS/support or literally anyone would make the build a lot more doable, but it isn't as cool

fossil echo
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Can I request Beholder (main) team build without Acolytes?

frank ruin
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monday or tuesday

vapid gazelle
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@frank ruin quick q, when talking about T16 which trials do you NOT take? idk which ones will slaughter me

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tried picking the first 16 and got destroyed, ima try first 10 :P

frank ruin
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but you should try different convinations if that doesnt work. That combo is the most comfortable for me to farm

vapid gazelle
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side note im tryna farm c.heroes but i dont have call of abyss unlocked, whats the requirement to see it?

frank ruin
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its a trial

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corrupted energy, or what do you mean

vapid gazelle
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tried looking in architect and i dont see anything called call of the abyss

frank ruin
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its one of the last upgrades from architect

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late game

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just keep buying upgrades

frank ruin
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@fossil echo

fossil echo
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Thanks a lottttt

vapid gazelle
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any cerberus build pls Prayge2

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not sure if fire start with diablo is better or joy for physical

frank ruin
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With or without corrupted acolytes

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?

vapid gazelle
frank ruin
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@vapid gazelle

vapid gazelle
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How do u get anti armor bullet relic tho

frank ruin
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what

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with a relic

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you prob didnt get the upgrade to pick a relic at the start

vapid gazelle
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grief haven’t seen that yet

frank ruin
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without relics you cant do t20

fossil echo
vapid gazelle
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Where I’m at rn

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Rushing for the chero upgrade

vapid gazelle
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gotta ask

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why is every team using defence or salvo?

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the 5-14 boss always targets the center unit first so my main dps just dies first

frank ruin
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1- because they are the strongest formations
2- death beam is random and in some formations death beam can kill two girls

fossil echo
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Do you have phox build without acolytes?

frank ruin
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Search, prob there's one

frank ruin
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new builds will be posted in #1256683237795823676
this channel still can be used to suggest, request or talk about builds

frank ruin