mouse advice

[stiff ibex]

Hi, I'm looking to buy a mouse to experiment a little bit, my current mouse experience is literally just a basilisk V2 I bought a year ago, I have no issues with it, but I broke the mouse wheel and I want to try something lighter and maybe smaller.

I don't know where youre supposed to measure your hand width, but it's about 17cm in length, as for my grip, I honestly have no clue, but I can get used to another one.

My budget is around 50~ usd, I'm from mexico, but I have a PO box in the usa.

I want this for FPS games, right now I'm on valorant,apex and team fortress 2.

Thank you, this is the options I've found so far.

[hoary jetty]

depends on what your grip style is

but objectively the f1 the r1 and the z2 are the best in your options

[stiff ibex]

Outside my options, is there anything you'd recommend?

[hoary jetty]

depends on your grip style

any mouse wouve found comfortable?

[stiff ibex]

Palm grip

But if I use a smaller mouse, wouldn't I have to change it?

[hoary jetty]

palm grip usually means larger mice

[stiff ibex]

so z2?

I wouldn't mind switching to a smaller mice, I don't mind either

but so, those 3 are comparable and it's just in regards to shape?

[hoary jetty]

and weight

z2 is slightly heavier

[stiff ibex]

okay but, the basilisk V2 has the hump in the back right?

[hoary jetty]

no

[stiff ibex]

and z2 and F1 moba on the middle?

[hoary jetty]

it has a back presence

[stiff ibex]

I'm pretty new at this 😭😭

[hoary jetty]

use eloshapes.com

and click compare

[stiff ibex]

I'm trying

does this mean the r1 pro has back presence aswell?

[hoary jetty]

back presence is not the same as back hump

im just going to go by hump

out of the mice you have

the r1 is the only one with a back hump

[stiff ibex]

I think I'll get that one, thank you

do you think I should upgrade the skates?

I read the obsidians are good, but I don't know

[hoary jetty]

back hump is the worst for palm though

[stiff ibex]

I assumed I should get something similar to my mouse

[hoary jetty]

the r1 is made for claw

[hoary jetty]

whats your mouse

[stiff ibex]

basilisk v2

[hoary jetty]

...

the r1 is not clsoe to the basiliskat all

[stiff ibex]

😔

z2?

[hoary jetty]

bruh

😭

[stiff ibex]

I don't think any of the other options is close to the basilisk no?

[hoary jetty]

no

other than like the keychron m7 but thats not out yet i think

[stiff ibex]

I was told the basilisk V2 is dog shit tho, so if it's not similar it's fine

[hoary jetty]

a mouse can be ass while havng a good shape (logitech g303 is a good example imo)

also shape is kinda subjective

[stiff ibex]

I'm mostly searching a mice to learn more, I don't really have a preference right now as that's the only mice I've had

[deep cosmos]

I mean

[hoary jetty]

it is the largest one yeah

[stiff ibex]

am I cooked?

[hoary jetty]

no

[stiff ibex]

claw or palm is fine, just no fingertip

how are the z2 skates?

it's a slightly out of my budget of 50$

but it seems like the better option, no?

[hoary jetty]

standard zaopin skates uhh

useable

[stiff ibex]

would you recommend me picking up some obsidians?

[hoary jetty]

but i would recommend getting aftermarkets

[stiff ibex]

or what are the go to ones?

[hoary jetty]

depends on what you want

[stiff ibex]

dude idk 😭😭

[hoary jetty]

obsidians are really good if you want something slower (more control)

edgerunner vortexes are really good if you want a slug

[stiff ibex]

so for like slow micro adjustments?

[hoary jetty]

yeah

[stiff ibex]

like valo

[hoary jetty]

the jade dots on the other hand

are really fucking fast

[hoary jetty]

might be too slow it depends on waht you want again

if you are lost and do not know what to get

get corepad pros

[stiff ibex]

Are those like all rounders?

[hoary jetty]

yeah

exactly

[stiff ibex]

if the obsidians are not too too slow then I think those would be fine

[hoary jetty]

if you want to save some money you could get an m3 pro

i tihnk its 10 dollars less than the z2

abd its 10g lighter

[stiff ibex]

I found it for 47

[hoary jetty]

yo

[stiff ibex]

but I'm willing to go over budget if it's worth it

[hoary jetty]

what mousepad are you using

[stiff ibex]

ROG sheath extended

Nothing fancy, but I'm thinking of buying one for my mouse specifically

[hoary jetty]

can help

[hoary jetty]

i do no tknow anything about this lmao

[stiff ibex]

would you say it's fine or is it a priority to get my mouse pad switched aswell?

[hoary jetty]

if it feels nice for you then keep it

[hoary jetty]

i chanegd my hien just because it was like 4 years old

[stiff ibex]

nothing fancy, but I needed one that covered my desk

[hoary jetty]

a deskpad jesus

[stiff ibex]

yeah

[hoary jetty]

idk which pads come in deskpad

any like specific colors or whatever

[stiff ibex]

I'm planning on keeping this one, and getting another one for my mouse

It doesn't have to be too big

[hoary jetty]

cant help with deskpads too much

[stiff ibex]

I'm keeping this one for my desk, just using a smaller one for my mouse

so whatever the standard recommendations are that's fine

but would you say the M3 is a side grade or a downgrade to the z2?

like if it's worse, I'm willing to just get the z2

[hoary jetty]

side grade

shape will determine which you prefer overal

[stiff ibex]

looks pretty similar no?

[hoary jetty]

no not really

youre forgetting abt this

[stiff ibex]

that's the z2 right?

[hoary jetty]

yeye

[stiff ibex]

and the M3 is flat then?

I mean

Symmetrical

[hoary jetty]

symmetrical yeah

[stiff ibex]

I think the z2 might come with the 4k dongle tho

how are the skates on the M3?

[hoary jetty]

it doesnt

both are compatible with 4khz

both come with a 1khz dongle

[stiff ibex]

ah, okay

[hoary jetty]

nevermind

im wrong

the z2 comes with 4khz

im stupid

[stiff ibex]

I don't think it's that much of a deal, but that's worth like 15usd ig

how are the stock skates on the r1 pro or the M3 pro?

[hoary jetty]

like decent stock skates

no need to change them but if you have an extra 10 bucks laying around yk

the m3 is pretty mediocre tbf

the pro version i think fixes the qc issues with the regular m3

[stiff ibex]

okay okay, and if I were to buy skaters, what size/style should I get?

I see they sell for specific ones like razer or logi

but I'm not gonna get either of them

universal dots?

nvm

I found they sell for a TON of brands

@hoary jetty I think I'll get the r1 pro, obsidian skates and spend the extra budget on a good mouse pad

thoughts?

[hoary jetty]

why the r1

i still dont understand that

its much smaller than the basilisk and not really used for palm grip

[stiff ibex]

so I can use the extra budget for a mouse pad :(

[hoary jetty]

the m3 pro costs just as much

[stiff ibex]

It's 10 more rn

[hoary jetty]

huh

60$?

[deep cosmos]

Me when I lie

[hoary jetty]

yeah

[stiff ibex]

35 r1 and 45 m3

atleast that's what I'm getting

[hoary jetty]

thats the regular r1

r1 pro is mroe expensive

[deep cosmos]

You probably chose the dongle version

[hoary jetty]

?

[deep cosmos]

O right this

[hoary jetty]

wait nvm

[stiff ibex]

Regular was 20 something

[hoary jetty]

pro is better than the pro max

[stiff ibex]

yeah

I picked pro

[hoary jetty]

this is a sale

by aliexpress

[stiff ibex]

I read pro max had double click issues

[hoary jetty]

thats why its cheaper

[deep cosmos]

I thought the m3 pro was overpriced but then I saw It chose the 4k dongle by default

[hoary jetty]

pro max doesnt really have double click issues but it does use diff switches than the pro version

click on the pro are usually preferred by most

[deep cosmos]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EImWJeL

Check how much it costs from this store

[hoary jetty]

41

[hoary jetty]

where do you live

idk if ive already asked this

[stiff ibex]

mexico, but I'm shipping to California, usa

[hoary jetty]

are you comfortable saying which county or nah

[stiff ibex]

san ysidro

or san diego

I don't live there, it's a po box

it's 8 dollars off 69(nice)

so I'm planning on getting the r1, obsidians and spend the rest on a good pad

[hoary jetty]

nah dont get the r1

shape doesnt fit you

[stiff ibex]

is it that bad?

[hoary jetty]

yes its bad

ive been trying to say this

[stiff ibex]

is shape not something you can learn?

[hoary jetty]

the r1 is made for aggressive claw

[hoary jetty]

shape is a mouse shape

[stiff ibex]

grip, I mean

[hoary jetty]

yeah but youre usually better by getting something that fits your grip

id rather get something comfortable than risk it being uncomfy just so it forces me to hold a mouse in ways i dont want it to

[deep cosmos]

Ong frfr

Yeah you did say your hand size was similar to mines

[hoary jetty]

who

[deep cosmos]

Other guy

And for me the vxe was a lil small

[stiff ibex]

it's about 17-18cm in length

but about width

[hoary jetty]

17 is small

18 is like mediumish

[stiff ibex]

do you measure it from the wrist bone?

[hoary jetty]

you measure it like this

"grip

!grip

[cunning rain]

https://imgur.com/4ac8mLX

[hoary jetty]

wait no

!handsize

[cunning rain]

https://imgur.com/bfiOqBW

[deep cosmos]

How in god's name were you using the balistiks

[stiff ibex]

holy shit

okay wait

@hoary jetty

19 and 9.5?

[hoary jetty]

19.5x9.5

[stiff ibex]

so what do you think?

[hoary jetty]

m3 pro safest choice

its like objectively ever so slightly worse than the r1

but the shape works way better for you

or the z2

just depends on waht you prefer

[stiff ibex]

do you know about mousepads?

400x400

I'm thinking something from xraypads, idk which

[wooden summit]

My hand 17.7x9.5 with crawl, is zaopin z2 suitable for me

[hoary jetty]

most good mousepads follow the same sizing to artisan pads

so like 49x42 is very common

other pads use 50x50

[stiff ibex]

I'm looking at a aqua control zero

I can't afford an artisan

[hoary jetty]

look at the pads from meow gaming gear

and pk

both compete with xraypad

[stiff ibex]

are they better or comparable?

[hoary jetty]

comaprable

youre looking at firmness, speed and texture