Viper mini replacement

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uhhh

no disrespect or anything

i wouldnt use any of the mice you listed

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what would you recommend then?

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i mean like

if youve tried the g305 and/or the orochi

get a zaopin z1 pro

its like 45$<

direct clone of the orochi

but like twice as good

thats for pincer

kone xp is like 160$ lmao

kone pro has p large qc issues

i can send proof

if you want

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oh it is? i thought it was like $70 new but ive seen some for a lot cheaper used

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sure why not

ill go look at the zaopin z1 tho

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god i love this video

shape is goated tho

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ouch that sounds bad

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budget palm grip mice are kinda hard to come across

delux m900 is very new theres like no review on it yet

zaopin z2 is like 60$

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yeah idc about palm grip really. i just put it in cause im open to it if it gave me more options

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wired dav3 you could get under 50 used

metapanda p1

attack shark r1 (attack shark qc is terrrible just pretend i never mentioned them)

which are we thinking

curved sides like on the left

or flat sides like on the right

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probably more curved cause im used to them

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darmoshark m3s could work then

although idk the price

or a keychron m3 mini if you want even more curved

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wait keychro nmakes mice now?

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yeah

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its a musical instrument and a mouse all in one!

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theyre decent ig

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not a very good instrument when you could play the model o instead

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fr lol

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wtf is this keyboard in the product photo for

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My model i is wildly creaky

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dongle for 4khz

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thats the reciever

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they made it looks like a keyboard :3

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ohhh

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almost as good as the beastX mini cat receiver

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zowie monolith

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oh i haven't seen that one

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its just fucking huge thats it

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oh yea

beastX normal cube is gigantic too

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okay yeah im kinda leaning towards the zaopin rn

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i have one

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I need losing receivers when i charge my mouse i need a gigantic receiver

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i saw that :3

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:3

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?

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:3

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Get g502

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reasoning or nah?

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they got muted 😭

prob just a troll

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suggestion was so bad he got muted

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real

silly man, the best mouse ever is the g502 x plus

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@verbal grail @toxic knot what are your guys opinions on the ultra custom symm 2? Some guy is selling one for $20 on CL

Not sure if I should cop or nah

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for 20$ why not

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yea

Ion have much experience with pwnage

but for 20 dollars it's probably worth

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oh I have a question abt a deal on a mouse too

and ik you know more abt them than I do

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idk pwnage mice very well

other than theyre usually kinda overpriced

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Lamzu Maya?

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ik the stormbreaker is the lightest ergo

but by like 3 grams better than lamzu thorn for much more price and it's magnesium

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yeah who doesnt know the stormbreaker

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could be broken or malfunctioning

actually

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most minecraft players

but then again I saw someone claiming he could click 24 times a second without double clicking

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minecraft players arent real people

most of them still use a bloody a70

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sadly yes

I know a guy who got that one

I tried to persuade him otherwise but he said it was the best choice

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i also have an a60

bad mouse

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HERESY

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understatement of the year

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dogshit cable

dogshit sensor

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weight too

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dogshit skates and i cannot understate this enough

they cut the mousepad and ruin it so fast

faster than glass without smoothed edges

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damn

could you sand them and they might be okay?

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i cant sand them

theyre harder than the sandpaper

😭😭

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what about a belt sander

if you sand enough then they might disappear entirely which would be an improvement

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dogshit side buttons they dig into the mouse and are mushy as a result

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but it clic fast so good mouse

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3 fucking dpi buttons under the scroll wheel

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coating is the only decent thing right

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a shit ton of travel on the clicks and theyre heavy too

which in hindsight does make them easier to long drag

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I thought low travel would be better for drag

certainly for jitter and butterfly

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not even its a low tier matte coating theres so many ppl who just sand the mouse itself so they can grip it better

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mc players when their mouse they sanded and then clicked on for 5 hours straight breaks suddenly:

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jitter it doesnt matter butterfly yeah it kinda does and heavy is also easier to double click on

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Huh I get better cps with lighter switches on butter

like 16 on model i 18 on atlantis mini

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i got like 28-29 butterfly with it

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wth

thats wild

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minecraft players have evolved with their mice in the way that a lot of them think the kone pro is actually the best on thr market

minemouse are an exception

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minemouse is great

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fastest clicking mouse ever is the model i until it got a firmware patch

after clicking a lil on it it started quad clicking

and i hit 35cps butterfly

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what the fuck

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i even once got 18cps normal clicking

wasnt even trying to

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thank you glorious

and omron

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sadly they patched it and it's no longer anything special on any regard

there was one reason to use it once

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pretty sure they used proprietary switches on that one

ik they're worse than on the other mice

and the rmb is just crazy high pitched

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damn

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glorious moment

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Good, cap their skill level

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he swapped after 2 days

said the sensor was unusable

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Lmao

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in the end he went from a pulsefire haste to a model o

Kinda a sidegrade imo but he likes it

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Well thats why you look at the specs first

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Also if i had a coin for every minecraft player that got a model o, i would be a fucking millionaire

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fr

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shape might be better for him ig?

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Well also the sensor and encoder things like that

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model o sensor is worse than haste iirc

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Theres mouse around 50 that have like the best hardware

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I mean

I love haste shape and fk

so there's sadly not that many for me

and large

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i have yet to find an ambi center hump mouse i liked

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model o is awful but the shape and size are perfect for me 😭

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i cannot stand any fk shape

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im prob gonna get a beastX max

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lol

I find them so much more comfy

opposites is wild

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my fav zowie shapes are like

s1

za12

and u2

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never tried any of those lol

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claw grip I take it

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ive used ec1 shape and fk shaoe

shape*

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I find it funny that i used to hate curved side mouse cause i didnt like how uncomfortable my ring and pinky would rest on it

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the s1 is mostly a guess lmao ive never tried it

ive tried a helios 2 pro

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And now i use an atlantis

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which is an s2 clone

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Didnt the helios came out before the u2

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yeah

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Oh wait

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amazing mouse but i wish it was a bit bigger (helios)

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damn ion like xm2we shape which is rly similar

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i really like that shape lol

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wild

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i remember some gyu telling me i didnt know how to give recs because i said the xm2we and the atlantis were almost clones

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i remember some guy calling me 0 iq for saying shape is subjective

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i remember the same guy lmao

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mouse comm is almost as bad as mc comm

not quite tho

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https://www.dink.gg/product/trackstar/

"shape is objective"

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which pros are that that use 3350

3360*

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if the gpx didnt exist like so many players would be using old zowie wired mice

so id say almost a lot

lotta pros dont care about what mouse they use

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gpx being used by like 50% of pros is still crazy to me

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truly

lotta pros clueless

(shroud)

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what was the drama with shroud again

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he was playing with tenz right

and tenz was going on about "this mouse is 39g its called the ninjutso sora its so good" or whatever

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alr

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he's one of us ❤️

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the second shroud heard that you could see him in disgust through his facecam

and he like muted himself "i dont wanna tell him this but that cant be a good mouse"

and he kept going on about

how like

if you use a mouse on a mousepad from a different company it wont track well the sensor will all be messed up

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💀

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WHAG

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oh i love the part where he complettely denied anything around having aftermarket skates

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bro i use skates from one company mouse from another and pad from another and it works fine

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did he have aftermarket skates

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tenz

idk

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alr

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https://youtu.be/ogmkM3bsR2g?si=-WXgJ1VnWXgxJKNJ

wathc this 😭

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bro is at the top of the bell curve when it comes to mouse knowledge

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after hearing shrouds take, I threw my ninjutso mouse in the trash with distain and went out and bought 2 logitech superlights
shroud saved my life, i cant believe i actually spent so much money on an artisan pad, no wonder my lamzu mouse wouldnt track well!

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woahh i had no idea about that

after seeing that clip

I'll throw out my lamzu mouse and decent mousepad and tiger ice skates

and go back to model i and glorious mousepad

he saved me too

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use superlight

you see

very well engineered by logitech truly

it FITS all hand sizes and grip styles !!!

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an average fit for EVERYONE

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it fits

not much more

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good fits are for nerds

you can hold it

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you can play with it

i guess

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LOL

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bro i wanna get back into keyboard

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get myself a better build

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someone buy shroud an artisan pad

or a saturn pro

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im making a build with an ergo board

but im so lazy

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you know keyboards well?

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so only half the switches are done

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moderately

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alright

imma ask for recs

looking for

gaskmet mount metal case allat right

polycarb plate

supports hall effect switches

and i wanna know whats the heaviest hall effect switch

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oh that one's tough

you have to have he or no he

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rn im using springswapped ktt kang whites theyre 80g

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you can prob springswap he switches too

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oh hall effect no

they use magnets

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Am i the only dumbass who doesnt care about spring weight and bottom out and only just the sound

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oh alr im dumb lol

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ion care either

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he switches are all rly light iirc

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yeah because brainrot

"lighter switch = faster !!!!" as if he switches dont actuate at 0.1/0.2mm

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I don't know of many gasketmount boards that do he

to the extent of my knowledge rakka/takka60 are the most enthusiast catered

oh I gtg now cya

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peace

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yo last question

whats the keyboard versiuon of this discord server

r/mk discord?

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prob on r/mk?

im not in it tho

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https://www.amazon.com/GATERON-Pre-lubed-Pre-Travel-Compatible-Mechanical/dp/B0CJHKWYRP/ref=asc_df_B0C7G3D6ZJ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=675717026104&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1786425159083810113&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032116&hvtargid=pla-2213460793139&mcid=34569e54e43b3d88ada95fe6bb3b21b7&gad_source=1&th=1

heaviest i could find

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at least 80g bottom out

[rugged rapids]

go for chinese mices if ur going budget

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there is a spring

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custom spring

i wonder if theres aftermarket springs for that

i want that but in 90g

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did i miss anything useful here or nah 💀

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nah lol

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nope

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Guys I bought the $20 symm 2

It works plugged in and looks fine but not sure about wireless yet

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Oh yeah what’s funny was that the seller said he didn’t like the shape and after trying 3 diff mice he settled on the g502

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oh my fucking god

i mean he bought a pwnage mouse idk how he did his research to end up buying a pwnage mouse for retail price

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Holy shit I just realized how heavy 15g is and why people are so stingy about weight

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ripp

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i mean stormbreaker isn't a bad price compared to finalmouse

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yeah but thats mostly because of finalmouse

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although compared to finalmouse

everything is a good deal

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besides this

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zaunkoenig ;

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oh yea 😭

Zaunkoenig: paying twice as much for half the mouse

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i remember seeing a yt video once

ok so like

he was averaging sub 10 on 3x3 like it was nothing lmao

he had a modded hhkb and an m2k on his desk

probably the most based person ive ever seen