#The Blue Turd

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pearl oak
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Is there even a spring in there?

drifting forge
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🤷‍♂️

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now the question is, will my new actuator arrive in time tomorrow for me install it, or am I driving to abbots ripton and back on the flacid one

round skiff
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That's just the special edition quick response wastegate

prime saddle
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limited edition

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looks like a 2psi wastegate they had on the foresters

drifting forge
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@pearl oak weaseled my way into the extremebhp clubstand at tunerfest, so will be there

pearl oak
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Oooooh fancy I’ll see ya there then

drifting forge
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Dug thru my turbo pile, found a wastegate that fits, spring is much stronger, fingers crossed.

round skiff
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You tried it yet?

drifting forge
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nope. don't want to spoil the surprise for myself, will try it tomorrow on my 3 anda half hour drive

pearl oak
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Let’s hope it’s not too strong then

drifting forge
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it's weaker than the one that was on the china td05

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but stronger than the one that was on this td04

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also this one came off a TF035, which I believe is a forester turbo, and looked to be factory, so hopefully, won't be more than 10psi or so

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what could go wrong

pearl oak
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That’s some fun city driving to max out that wastegate spring at least

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I also hate how familiar all of those roads are

prime saddle
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on a 3 hour drive you guys pass through like 10 cities

drifting forge
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is a small island

prime saddle
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iceland is small too

pearl oak
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It’s nice though, don’t have to drive too far to get basically anywhere

prime saddle
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i dont like america

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everything is atleast 15 miles away

drifting forge
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if we had the amount of space 'murica has, the tiny 3 bed house I'm renting wouldn't be priced at £300k...

prime saddle
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i guess because i live in the middle of the mountains where all we have is canyon roads

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3 bed house here is around that price

drifting forge
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yeah, but they're bigger. a lot bigger

prime saddle
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sometimws

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go to LA and you can get a small 2 bed 1.5 bath apartment for 800k

drifting forge
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my 3bed house in the UK vs my uncles 3 bed house in the US. both about the same price

pearl oak
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Uk housing is so weird, I live in the outskirts of a small city and prices are cheap. I’m an hour from Manchester but if I got the same in Manchester it’s about 5x the price I bought it for

prime saddle
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i see ur car

drifting forge
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area-wise, the house i live in fits inside the footprint of his garage.

pearl oak
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Ooof that has me curious

prime saddle
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now lets say you want to buy a property like mine with 340 acres (1.3 square kilometers) with the 4 bed 2 bath house we have thats around 2.5 million.

drifting forge
prime saddle
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im 16 so i personally dont own it but i live there

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uk seems like a better place, i get free speech here via the goverment but the public opinion here is fucked

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actually anywhere would be better

drifting forge
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lets trade places. bit of gay marriage, and I'll get you an EU passport and you get me a greencard. 5 years late free to go wherever

prime saddle
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what amkes you want to come here

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3 hours later

drifting forge
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I wonder that every day myself.

The work environment is shit, no employee protections (tho salaries are substantially higher than over here for my field at least)
The politics are getting dumber by the day
prices for stuff are getting absurd there too

BUT... theres stuff to do
if theres an event/festival/anything it comes to the US first
pretty much heaven for car mods, most states don't care about what you do to your cars
you have guns. i like guns.

prime saddle
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oh yeah

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i forgot i have no emmisions

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im staying

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my car wouldnt pass at all, like fail in every category

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exaggeration

drifting forge
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like seriously, I have 3 hobbies in life
cars
guns
video games

for guns, in europe guns are just generally a no-go unless you want to be a hunter. I don't. I just like guns. I want to buy, collect and shoot all sorts of weird guns at nothing other than soda cans, so thats one hobby I can only watch videos about

for cars, theres emissions, yearly tests/MOTs/etc. laws preventing stuff thats too wild, and literally everywhere is now activelly trying to make it too expensive for you to own a car, with all the clean air zones, speed cameras, automatic numberplate recognition camers, fees, taxes, etc. so that hobby is getting increasingly diffcult

just leaves video games, which well... that industry is just run out of ideas

prime saddle
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I have an mp5 s6

drifting forge
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basterd

prime saddle
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well i dont legally own it

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i dont have an auto guns license nor a guns license so my grnarfather owns it

drifting forge
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just rub salt in the would there... i love mp5s

prime saddle
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im sorry lol

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im sure you can get a visa

drifting forge
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like maybe, just maybe if I try real hard I can maybe get a permit to buy something like a ruger 10/22 or a basic shotgun. but not full power rifles. no pistols, nothing else

prime saddle
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you cant own 9mm?

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damn

drifting forge
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oh I have a visa, a tourist visa, but I don't fall into any of the "protected" or special categories needed to get an immigrant visa

prime saddle
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fraud

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dont commit fraud kids thats just a joke

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there has got to be a way

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to do it

drifting forge
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marriage

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visa lottery

prime saddle
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okay

drifting forge
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or work sponsorship

prime saddle
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so go to tinder real quick and find a lover

drifting forge
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visa lottery is, as the name implies, a lottery, so even tho I keep applying every year, chances are almost non existant

prime saddle
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i know some nice car enthusiasts round here

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well hopefully you get lucky

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does it come with a free import of your car

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how do i move what are the regulations for that

drifting forge
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and work sponsorship is just... no... I want to move there, but I want to stay freelance, I hate the corporate system and don't want to be tied to a ball and chain to a company that has the power to just end my sponsorship on a whim and get me deported because the boss man feels like it. fuck companies

prime saddle
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companies is a bad idea

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i agree

drifting forge
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eh, importing the car would be pretty straight forward. it's got 2 more years till it's 25 yo, just stick it on a roll-on/roll-off ship and then pay an importer whatever they charge to do the paperwork. last I checked it was about 2k total for bringing a car over

prime saddle
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are cars are expensive over there?

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i mean do you really want a rhd in america

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those 2 statements were completely unrelated btw

drifting forge
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ideally i'd find a rust-free 2-door shell and just swap over all the goodies... again.

prime saddle
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well the costal states are fucked, cant get non rusty there

drifting forge
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middle of the road GC turbos tend to be about £6k to £8k these days

drifting forge
prime saddle
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rust belt is basically everything north of kentucky and Mississippi

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nevada and west is rust

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everything from the northeast is rust

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and coupes are rare as shit not to mention cali and ny got ALL the gc8 sedans and coupes

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we have all the GDAs and GGs

drifting forge
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But don't know. the way the world is going, I don't think I can be bothered uprooting and moving to a new place again. When I move, it's gonna be back to Romania, be with the family, not have to worry about rent anymore, and just power thru the stupidly restrictive car laws there

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lil bit of land there on the family plots out in the country and a house I'll be inheriting in the city, so thankfully got that going there

prime saddle
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awesome sauce

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did you block me on facebook

drifting forge
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no?

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i do have my thing set to private tho

prime saddle
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okay it must have been glitching

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well i should still be able to click kn your profile

drifting forge
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there

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sent you a friend request

prime saddle
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you know my name?

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hmm

drifting forge
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you commented on that post on the GC8 group

prime saddle
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oh yeah

drifting forge
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literally like 2 days ago lol

prime saddle
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i dont remember that lol

drifting forge
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you doxed yourself boyo

prime saddle
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how

drifting forge
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by commenting on my post and revealing who you are lol

prime saddle
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i found you though

drifting forge
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exactly, I didn't have to do any sleuthing this time around

prime saddle
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what are you gonna do? COME to my house?

drifting forge
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nah, I can't afford the plane ticket. you safe

prime saddle
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i cant either

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working on my car is a full time job

drifting forge
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i know that feeling, was mine for the whole of lockdown and then some

drifting forge
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My cup:

prime saddle
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bald

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thats a pretty good kug

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mug

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famnit

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i hate mobile keyboards

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do you have rally courses near you in the uk

drifting forge
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i wish... been trying to find a rally school to take some courses for a good while, none near me (at least none that still use subarus)

prime saddle
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i go to hollytree alabama

drifting forge
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might sign up for a race school to get a racing license at oulton park at some point tho

prime saddle
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uh

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misclick

drifting forge
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me and my friend are looking at doing some... creative expenses... with our company for the purpose of "marketing and advertising" ... by buying a BTCC race car, slapping our company logo on the side as the main sponsors and expensing everything thru the company if our accountant gives us the OK

prime saddle
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you have a company?

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ill invest and raise your net worth

drifting forge
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legally yes. it's just me and a friend doing software

prime saddle
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want me to invest

drifting forge
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nah, there isn't really anything to invest in, we just use it to abuse the expense and mileage claims

prime saddle
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sounds like fraud

drifting forge
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nah its all legal

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we've got an actual accountant specifically to guide us thru every single possible loophole

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why should just the super rich cheese the system.

prime saddle
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sounds like something i should do

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i dont know the benefits of a company here i just know i can make a company

pearl oak
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It’s all technically legal yeah, it’s something designed for the super rich to abuse that if you have the know how and wants you can make use of as anyone. I’ve looked into it before

drifting forge
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so, turns out my front discs have warped... don't know how I managed that but anyway. Gonna need to do a brake job... again. fortunately ICP is very reasonable for the kit imo

prime saddle
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no

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uh

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i have a set of slotted rotors if you want them

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free minus shipping

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plus i mean

pearl oak
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Why don’t you just get other brand ones from something like euro car parts or whatever? You could get them same day and they do Impreza turbo brakes

prime saddle
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im not gining you money

drifting forge
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given how much brake discs weigh, it'd probably cost more

pearl oak
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I have a set of base model Impreza brakes somewhere, I’m guessing not the same disc sizes though

prime saddle
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well theya re carbon

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oh they are carbon

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nevermind they arent free

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i bought those for my 4 pot swap

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but i dont have 144 bucks to get the 4 pot calipers

drifting forge
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nah, these are for 4-pots. eurocarparts do them, yes, and I am tempted by the brembo ones

prime saddle
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go for it, whats the worst that could happen

pearl oak
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I did get some brembo brakes from ecp they were legit

prime saddle
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how much

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icp you mean?

drifting forge
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might wait for a sale

pearl oak
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Oh ouch yeah I forget they list prices just for a single disc

prime saddle
drifting forge
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not bad prices tbh, do they specify what brand they are or are they generic china castings?

prime saddle
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refurbished oem is what it syas

drifting forge
prime saddle
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let me see if i can find it

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either way its hard to fuck up solid aluminum

prime saddle
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ah its unbranded

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i had oem ones for a little more than this saved sumwhere

round skiff
prime saddle
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if it works i dont care

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probaly a horrible attitude to have but

round skiff
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See that's the thing, it suddenly might not anymore

prime saddle
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eveyrthing else on my car is fucked might as well add something else

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when i bought it only 2 out of the 4 calipers worked, ebrake didnt work and still dont, passenger brake line was almost cut in half, and the driver brake pads were completely gone

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so basically i had no brakes

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i have no idea how it was working in the first place

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the only real working one was the passenger one but it was on the verge of death

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passenger front

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the 2 rears didnt work

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eh forget it, ill risk my life i aint got nothing to lose

drifting forge
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club stands right next to each other lol. I'll probably still have the roof tent on. cba to take it off and put it back on for USC.

pearl oak
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Yeah I did see that this morning. At least my bright orange car won’t be hard to miss either lol

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I didn’t realise it was that big of an event

drifting forge
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I have at least cleaned the wheels for tomorrow. Roof tent has been removed tho.

prime saddle
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i got import alliance tomorrow

drifting forge
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@pearl oak beautiful english weather here

pearl oak
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Spotted ya it’s grim today

drifting forge
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Yeah i'm holed up in the extremebhp gazebo, balding fat guy with glasses drinking pepsi

pearl oak
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Haha yeah we just walked past on the way to get some grub

drifting forge
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Yeah I can see the roof of yours from the gazeebo here but its pissing it down too much to walk over lol

drifting forge
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ah yes, my oil had vanished again by when I wanted to leave... ffs must be the piston rings..

prime saddle
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it wouldnt be a subaru without it

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did you tighten your drain bolt?

round skiff
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Time for another, more thorough rebuild

drifting forge
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time for an ej207 shortblock with v5/v6 sti heads

round skiff
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Why not GD heads

drifting forge
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wiring, plumbing, all that

round skiff
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Well, as long as it is a GD shorblock

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Though you could use the V5 intake along with the harness and coolant pipes

drifting forge
round skiff
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Actually you could use the GD heads, if they have AVCS you could just make an aux harness to accomodate the extra sensor and solenoids. Link has that functionality

drifting forge
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i dont want avcs

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complicates things

round skiff
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It's the tuner's problem regardless

drifting forge
round skiff
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You'd also have the advantage of me having to stumble across it first and you could just use my mistakes

drifting forge
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and they charge by the hour

round skiff
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True, but imagine the low end

drifting forge
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negligible

round skiff
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Honestly if you find a good long block you really might as well, compared to sourcing the heads separately

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But I do get it

round skiff
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Shame mine didn't come with one

prime saddle
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i am

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i like that blue evo

drifting forge
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the 206 was the absolute champ of the track tho. almost bare basic car, man just having the time of his life running laps like theres no tomorrow and having fun

pearl oak
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Oooooh that’s annoying, we had to leave early unfortunately because of our dog

drifting forge
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I maaaay have been told there is an EJ207 SCD shortblock with some forged goodies sitting in boxes in my friends unit, and isn't going to be used any time soon and is available for my taking when I need it and can make an offer on it. The price is very much a you help us we help you thro some dosh in there and we're all happy situation. Especially after said friend's cambelt went yesterday in his non-turbo daily runabout and I went "here, have my old engine, get you back up and running"

Only issue is, I'm absolutely skint, and the engine is in pieces so it'd need to go to an engine builder to be put together, and I'd need to source the v5/v6 sti heads I want for it as well, but it's there and available.

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but given that my engine is still magicking oil out of existance (without puddles or smoke), that time is fast approaching

round skiff
pearl oak
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She’s currently dead as after leaving her yesterday we treated her to a lovely walk in a national park

prime saddle
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that is an awesome dog

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she looks very sweet

drifting forge
round skiff
drifting forge
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yeah case split, friend was prepping it for one of his cars, but hes indecisive if he wants to go balls-out forged, full newage swap, or all original version 2

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the 207 would have been for the balls-out forged option

round skiff
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So the pistons haven't run before?

drifting forge
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don't know. would be going straight to the engine builder to put it together, I'm not messing with mystery engines anymore

round skiff
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Yeah I see

drifting forge
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so whatever it's missing or questionable, I'll be asking the builder very nicely to put new stuff in

round skiff
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Yea there's always something missing

drifting forge
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if it's missing it's probably somewhere in his unit and we'll find it when we find out it's missing

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so not as worried as I'd be if buying an engine off eBay

round skiff
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Yea

drifting forge
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would very much like a better oil pump, arp head studs, etc etc

round skiff
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I looked into it and there's really no reason to put in a better pump, the spring will just do more work

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I would like to have ARP studs too but I'm not taking the engine apart anymore

drifting forge
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but but but
more bigger = more better

round skiff
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I figured so too initially but then decided against it

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I just hope the studs will take the abuse

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I won't be going over 1.5 bar so probably fine

drifting forge
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I just want to completely overbuild the engine for the 300hp I want to run

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so that 50 years from now when someone finds it in a barn and starts tearing into it, they'll go "Ooooh, goodies" at every step

round skiff
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Lol

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Speaking of goodies, dad genuinely got interested in the Prodrive antilag system

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It's actually not that complicated and someone has made their own before

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Unfortunately no CAD models available

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If he actually got that done it would be mad

drifting forge
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sign me up for one as well if he does

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I do want antilag

round skiff
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The rocket antilag is lot less brutal than conventional

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Hence our interest

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Promotes hot gas flow rather than just exploding fuel in the exhaust

drifting forge
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when the engine comes out, lets face it, probably sometime next year for the new engine, I'll definitely be getting a port welded into the up pipe for a bypass valve

round skiff
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The funny thing is that rocket thingy will be the uppipe

drifting forge
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CAN expansion plug, and plug n play 3-port boost solenoid arrived. I have put out the feelers to see about getting a tune booked at cam's performance, oil issues or not, this thing needs to go in. will just bring a jug of oil with me and top it off after each pull

round skiff
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Nice! What can extender is that?

drifting forge
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it's for the link, it has a plug for CAN don't know what it does, but I've got wires for it now

round skiff
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How do you mean you don't know? You don't know what the expander does?

drifting forge
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I can hook up stuff to it to do stuff, got nothing TO hook up to it, bought the plug just in case I (or the tuner) does decide something needs to connect there

round skiff
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Ah so as in "Dunno what I'm gonna do with it"

drifting forge
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yeah

round skiff
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Buttons

drifting forge
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I think the AFR gauge might have an output for RS232, but it also has an analog output that can go to the regular expansion slot instead of the CAN one

round skiff
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Lots of buttons and switches

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I think that connector has both RS232 and CAN pins in it

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So if it has an RS232 you'd have 3 ways of connecting it

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Also I blatantly copied your hex bolt swap because it looked nice and went and bought a bag of hex bolts

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Shame I didn't find long full thread bolts so I can't put one for the charger adjustment for example

drifting forge
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my what

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oh on the manifold?

round skiff
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Yeah

drifting forge
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yeah does look sweet doesn't it

round skiff
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It does

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They also didn't have fine thread M10's with hex head so that sucks

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I also highly suggest that plastic tank swap

drifting forge
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not had any issues with the metal one yet

round skiff
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Yeah mine broke, and apparently it's pretty common. For some reason the neck and barbs are brazed onto the steel, and that brazing doesn't last

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The neck cracked from the base and made a nice James Bond smoke screen

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Plus I think it looks nicer

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And it was less than half the price lol

prime saddle
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spread the word of your bumper lip

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oh dude i did that when i melted my ATF lines

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it was a litteral smoke screen and the entire motorway was smoked out it was like fog

drifting forge
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Got a wheel cover thats in theme with the seats

pearl oak
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Oh my

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I did notice the seats the other day, they are even more in your face than images show

drifting forge
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for the record the only reason I'm using steering wheel covers is because the actual steering wheel desperately needs a retrim and is unsightly

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same with the seats lol

round skiff
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Is your shifter boot retrofitted?

pearl oak
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Lol, I have fabric gg wrx seats if you want the fronts?

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Doubt the rears fit

drifting forge
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if the fabric wasn't full of cigarette burns and rips, I wouldn't be running seat covers.

round skiff
pearl oak
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They are only wrx seats not sti seats but they went in my rs Impreza back in the day

drifting forge
pearl oak
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Fair enough, the end goal if they don’t go is to weld some brackets to put in my mini but if they go before then I’m not upset

drifting forge
round skiff
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Makes sense, the -97 NA had the prefacelift interior and rubber boot and the -98 turbo had facelift and leather, so I wasn't sure if it was interior or trim level thing

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But I think the rubber fits the gutted interior pretty well

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Managed to pull it over the reverse lockout lol

drifting forge
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i actually need to find a new rubber because it's split between one of the folds

round skiff
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Don't imagine that being too difficult

drifting forge
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It is... Can only find the prefacelift ones

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Or the facelift leather ones

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But I prefer the rubber...

round skiff
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Oh there's a difference?

drifting forge
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Yeah, prefacelift is rounded on one end, facelift is square

round skiff
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The rear end?

drifting forge
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Yeah

round skiff
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How much would you be willing to pay for one?

drifting forge
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Right now its so low on the priority list the answer is 0

round skiff
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I could get my hands on one but it'd be 40€ plus the shipping here so that'd be like 20€ more to get it there

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But if you want I could ask for parts car sellers if they'd part ways with one for cheap

drifting forge
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Nah, need to fix the car first before I worry about trim

round skiff
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Alright

drifting forge
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Got a new PCV valve coming, heard that might be one possibility on the mystery oil dissappearence when in boost, fingers crossed because thats the last cheap item to check before it means its definitely something internal that needs a teardown and rebuild

round skiff
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Catch can?

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No more shit in intake and turbo

drifting forge
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Thats a bandaid not a fix

round skiff
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Not really, even if the PCV works properly you'll still get oil vapors in your intake system

drifting forge
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Yeah but if its the piston rings that are screwed, I have way more problems than what a catchcan can help

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And when I mean oil dissappears, I mean it, 30 mile spirited drive and oil went from full to completely dry dipstick.

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But if I stay off boost i can drive hundreds of miles without losing barely any

round skiff
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Shit

drifting forge
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I know its not the turbo now because I just put in a properly rebuilt OE one

drifting forge
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gonna go visit an engine builder tomorrow to discuss my options

round skiff
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Nice. I looked into your future and I saw a 207 shortblock

drifting forge
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at some point. at this point tho, just get the current engine redone and run that till I can afford/have gathered the parts I want for the 207 shortblock with v5/6 sti heads, aftermarket fuel rails, maybe spicy cams and forged goodies, and intake manifold

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see if he's got availability for late november so I can just drop it off then and have it done while I'm on holiday in thailand

round skiff
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If you end up with Radium do note that the kit doesn't include plugs for fuel dampers

drifting forge
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gonna go for the fuji racing kit

round skiff
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Also, why go with STI heads if you're gonna swap cams

drifting forge
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aren't the valves bigger on sti heads?

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or have I been lied to by the internet

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that could never happen

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the internet always tells the truth!

round skiff
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I don't believe so and also the WRX heads flow plenty. Plus GC STI shit is rarely better than WRX ones, it's usually only on GD when shit gets interesting

drifting forge
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I don't want the extra complexity of avcs and harness merging tho

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just more shit to go wrong, and on a subaru thats already plenty

round skiff
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Yeah but you can use your current heads with meaner cams

drifting forge
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fair enough

round skiff
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Yeah the valves aren't larger in diameter

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Also you can have the seats radius cut if you want flow

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And ported, or at least polished

drifting forge
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Stuck the wind fairing back onto the roof bars. See if I can get more than 34 mpg with it on.

pearl oak
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It’s a Subaru, it explodes if you get more than 40mpg

round skiff
prime saddle
round skiff
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Note that US and UK gallons aren't the same

prime saddle
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hmm okay

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20 percent more which means subtract 20% from 46mpg that it gets

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38mpg in your terms

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still pretty damn close to 40

round skiff
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Not my terms lol

prime saddle
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well whatever uk bullshit is

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i only use liters for everything else except stuff i buy in america

pearl oak
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We use liters too

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Just not for fuel consumption

round skiff
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Even when filling up, which I don't know if it's more hilarious or frustrating

pearl oak
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It’s frustrating, on older cars without mpg guages you add 40L to your car and work out how many miles you’ve gone and end up with a L/miles calc you then have to move around to get a mpg figure

round skiff
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How did you end up with this shit?

drifting forge
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So, be about £2500-ish cash for a full rebuild

round skiff
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On what platform?

drifting forge
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205

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Cant afford to both buy the 207 bottom end AND pay for a build, so gonnae be get the 205 rebuilt to keep the car running and later on get the 207, build that up and sell the 205

round skiff
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I just found out AMP44 makes Subaru pistons and if their BMW pistons are anything to go by, they're the maxpeepeerods of pistons

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Starting with the 207 now isn't viable?

drifting forge
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Nope

round skiff
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Well that sucks

drifting forge
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The 205 will practically be a brand new engine tho, literally everything except the castings themselves are gonna be change for brand new oe stuff

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Plus uprated oil filter cooling thing, uprated oil pump and a sump baffle at my request

round skiff
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I'd honestly go forged, with maxpeepeerods and the AMP44 piston it's pretty much OE price (400 for rods, 500 for pistons) and you can throw that in the 207 and the 207 stuff in the 205 if/when you sell

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Oh yeah and I'm talking euros

drifting forge
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Nah, I'll let the guy build it the way he knows. He's been doing it longer than I've been alive so just gonna go with that he says

round skiff
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For your 300hp you'll be fine, but for the price I'd still do it

round skiff
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Should've probably looked closer, the pistons aren't available in STD size. But the forged rods I still recommend

drifting forge
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nah, gonna do that when I get a 207, not gonna go wild with the 205

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he uses manley rods and mahle pistons for the forged stuff

prime saddle
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billet forged

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5000 grind cams

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avcs delete

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and you got zoom

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oh plus full balance with flywheel and clutch attached

round skiff
drifting forge
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Many Sbarros

pearl oak
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Where’s all the leaking oil?

drifting forge
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Its all focused in one car. Mine.

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Which is at home because I decided to take the saab instead and not live in costant fear or oil dissappearing

prime saddle
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subarus dont leak oil sometimes but not sometimes

drifting forge
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Angri fast boi

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In a straight line at least

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11.something it ran

prime saddle
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what you have no suspension mods?

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cant fast corner?

drifting forge
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Drag car

prime saddle
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a subaru?

drifting forge
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Thick chunko tyres, dont know if he can actually turn much

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Yeag

prime saddle
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i

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okay

drifting forge
prime saddle
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oh thats not the turd

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okay i thought you were drag racing it

drifting forge
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yeah discord decided to take forever to upload that photo lol

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also, now you see it

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now you dont

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Look at that fine film of very expensive mclaren oil hehehe

round skiff
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Oof, now that's painful

drifting forge
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there was a gaggle of 4 or 5 mclarens, and they were all very much a case of status & wealth, no talent. were taking way too many selfies of themselves

round skiff
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Lol

drifting forge
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and had horrible reaction times

round skiff
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If I could choose between a ride along in a McLaren or Matt's S600, I'd take the 600

drifting forge
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there was a lancer sportback, that we're guessing was evo swapped, because it was AWD and running 10.50 consistently

round skiff
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Guh

drifting forge
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and this champ. 1.9TDI swapped civic, pulling smiles and rolling coal

round skiff
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I'm so stubborn on FWD hate I can't bring myself to really like those

drifting forge
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give them a chance, they're great fun, I used to have 3 EG civics, and my god I'd like to buy another

round skiff
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But I'm blaming that partially on our winters, which make RWD and AWD infinitely more fun and also easier to negotiate

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On countries that get no snow it's not such big of a difference

drifting forge
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mine were OK in the snow, granted romania doesn't get finland levels of snow anymore, but when we did get snow, I didn't have any issues with understeer or traction

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mainly I'd guess because the stock size I was running for the winter tyres were fairly skinny so it actually worked well

round skiff
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Yeah it's more of FWD isn't bad, RWD or AWD is just better, easier and more capable

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Provided you can take advantage of their behaviour

drifting forge
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I do genuinely miss my civics

prime saddle
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i like ek hatches, mainly because i have one in a racing game with a 1560hp K20A2 and 6spd sequential with a slice of 540kw of nitrous and a top speed of 437kmh

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on the shuto in the middle of traffic

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hanekdaku i think cant remember if it was that or shintotisutu

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rainbow lights bay bridge thingy on the c1

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and yes i could make that power irl with one and all that but i dont have 130k

drifting forge
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roof tent looks less ridiculous on the saab than it does on the subaru

pearl oak
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still a little oversized but I like it

drifting forge
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The packmule arriveth... At the santa pod tesco...

drifting forge
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@round skiff recommend me some tyres for going muddin'

round skiff
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I haven't driven on mud, but given the price on gravel tires we just prey on the cheap used ones

drifting forge
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12k miles and the toyos are gone.

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And the MOT is due on the 23rd...

round skiff
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Nah they have just entered the semi slick stage

prime saddle
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race radials

drifting forge
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No wonder i had no grip

drifting forge
round skiff
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Not a full on slick, then

prime saddle
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well now you have race and rain

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actual all terrain

drifting forge
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@prime saddle cough up 5k for a gen-u-ine RHD turbo 😆 3k for the car, 2k for shipping, you know you want to.

prime saddle
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yeah i do

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whats the year

drifting forge
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the white one looks to be a 2000, the blue one a 97

prime saddle
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yum im actually going to try to get a loan for 5k honestly

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wait

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whats wrong with it

drifting forge
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no clue. either rotten with rust or blown engines. way too cheap for a GC nowadays tbh

prime saddle
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i knew that was too cheap

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why did you say genuine like that

drifting forge
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for the funsies

prime saddle
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okay

drifting forge
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honestly tho, don't know whats wrong with them. maybe they've just been stood for like 10 years in his front yard so need a good cleanup and all the perished rubbers and hoses replacing. they are UK cars tho so expect some rust, and they are subarus, so expect some engine troubles

prime saddle
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i like my non rusty vehciles

drifting forge
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would be good for parts 🤷 take all the turbo and RHD goodies out of a rusted UK shell and stick them in one of your not-rusty US shells

prime saddle
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maybe

drifting forge
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Look! It's my old engine! Now in a friends car after his timing belt snapped.

Still runs after having sat under a tarp in my back yard for a year and a half!

round skiff
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K&N intake for all the extra hp

prime saddle
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he'll need it with that shitty n/a

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just kidding

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honestly my n/a gets DOWN like holy shit it feels faster than the 2022 wrx i drove

pearl oak
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The na 4 cylinder engines are kinda gutless but they are fun

round skiff
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Yeah it was fun for a while, but banging on the limiter in 3rd constantly got a bit tiring eventually so we opted for more power

drifting forge
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He's just received his original non turbo engine back from the engine builder, freshly rebuilt. Only bent 7 valves when his timing belt went.

prime saddle
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stop stalking me

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oh wait thats not my style intake manifold

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nvm

round skiff
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@drifting forge Have you installed the poly bushings yet?

drifting forge
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What the suspension ones? Those went in from the start

round skiff
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Yeah

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How have they been?

prime saddle
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poly is overrated get oem sti

round skiff
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Lol

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Also I already have a set from the same guy as Adi, but haven't installed them yet. Though mine are a lot harder, 95SHa

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I'm just curious to know as I haven't installed them yet

prime saddle
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the harder the less you your want it if its your daily

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i daily so i dont want too hard

round skiff
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Bro I have a cage and 6 point

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Still a daily tho lol

prime saddle
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yeah well Tennessee roads are shit i dont want to jar my teeth

round skiff
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Car absolutely ripped the stock bushings

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They're all torn to shit

drifting forge
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The ones I got feel great. Only complain is they made the diff whine more noticeable but other than that can't fault them. And our roads are shit. Need softer coilies tho.

round skiff
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Did yours have very tight press fits on the metal sleeves?

drifting forge
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Mine were much softer, was able to do them by hand

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Lube them up good with red rubber grease because thats all I had, and they pushed in firmly and satisfyingly by hand. Think I only needed to use a press for the ones that had lips on both sides. And even then once past the first lip I could press the rest of the way by hand

round skiff
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I checked mine again and the smaller ones can be pushed in by hand but the large ones are too tight. I also noticed he sent me one 22mm and one 24mm sway bar bush, didn't catch that earlier

prime saddle
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adi it was n/a before right?

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if the answer is yes because im too impatient do you still have any of your intake parts?

drifting forge
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sadly no, everything n/a related is now in my friends engine bay

round skiff
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Is yours swapped?

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I thought it was original UK2000

drifting forge
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no

round skiff
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Explains the bumper, though

drifting forge
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was a non-turbo sport

round skiff
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Ah

drifting forge
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actually I bought the bumper later. it came with the normal v5/v6 turbo bumper

round skiff
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I see

drifting forge
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the turbo/wrx bumper is in the garage somewhere, half of its clearcoat is gone so it looks like shit, BUT, it's not been cut for a fmic

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so it's complete

round skiff
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You gonna go for a FMIC at some point?

drifting forge
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have new fog lamp brackets for it too... just need to find where i put my fog lamps

drifting forge
round skiff
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Yeah if I happen to go TMIC I'm gonna move the cooler there too

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But what forces you for FMIC if you use e-throttle?

drifting forge
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space

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e-throttle is much bigger than the regular cable throttle (or at least the kit RCM sells is)

round skiff
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Surely not, at least with stock TMIC

drifting forge
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theres fuck all space there even with the stock TMIC

round skiff
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What the 1k RCM throttle?

drifting forge
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yeah

round skiff
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Holy shit that's expensive

drifting forge
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yep

round skiff
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What on earth does it do to justify the price

drifting forge
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brand shrug

round skiff
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Why not just use an OEM throttle and save 1k?

drifting forge
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dunno

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something something intake manifold wiring

round skiff
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What wiring do you intend to use?

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An aux in addition to the stock one?

drifting forge
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yeah ethrottle would be going direct to the ecu

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dont know yet tho, thats a further down the line plan

round skiff
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Honestly just buy an OEM throttle and paint it black

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Are you going to use the stock manifold?

drifting forge
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yeah

round skiff
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So you'd have to port the manifold for the TB

drifting forge
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unless my ebay slething lands me a good deal on something spicy

round skiff
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Get a 2.5 SOHC intake

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I'd do it if I didn't already get the 99 turbo one

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They flow a lot better and the OEM DBW is bolt-on

drifting forge
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i'll figure out what ill do when the time comes, which is probably not any time soon...

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...

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... unless the idle on the turbo cable throttle is still fucky even with the link

round skiff
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I doubt that

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With all that control unless it's broken it's going to work

prime saddle
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so like an rs

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what was yours called

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canada and america got the RS, NZ and AU got the RX, what did you get

round skiff
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RS had some power

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Sport was stock engine

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Only looked fancier

drifting forge
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UK got the L, GL, Sport, Turbo 2000, P1

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Really only thing different between the sport and the GL was that is came with the bumpers, sideskirts and wing off the turbo, other than that they were all the same. 2.0 n/a, 125-ish hp, rear drums

prime saddle
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ah so you dont have a fancy name

prime saddle
round skiff
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The chassis are all the same

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The GC STIs were disappointingly not special

drifting forge
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I find it hilarious when americans refer to anything eu/jdm turbo as STI 🤣

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Nothing STI on the RS, it's basically a sport but with a hood scoop from factory and bigger engine.

round skiff
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Yeah

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And sport was a consolation prize for the poor

prime saddle
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the wing aswell

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it was on STI cars they just slapped it on for a different market

drifting forge
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Nah, sorry bub, only the high level wing can actually qualify as an STI item.

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The rest came stock on the sport and regular turbo. Best I can do is call them wrx bumpers and sideskirts. Don't know what you're on about the fenders tho, those are all the same.

round skiff
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Yeah, WRX and STI are externally the same. Just went through this in a different channel, there was no widebody of a GC chassis, 22B being the exception

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Like I said, the STI is disappointingly similar to the WRX.

drifting forge
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Only STI bumper I can think of for the GC is the very rare OEM 22B/WRC style narrowbody one

prime saddle
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so you consider the v5/v6 sti bumper a sport bumper?

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i mean my system litterly says STI on it

round skiff
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It is the same bumper

prime saddle
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same as what

round skiff
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Sport bumper is the same as WRX, STI, UK2000 and GT

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And OBS, and RS

prime saddle
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not obs

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obs had base model

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the only american model with the v5/v6 bumper was the RS

round skiff
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Yeah that I misremembered

prime saddle
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the only non wrx au/nz one with that bumper is the rx which is an rs with a ej201

round skiff
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But point is, the only variations on the bumper are pre- and post facelift

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Oh yeah it was RX in EUDM and not Sport

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Same shit, different name

prime saddle
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what i consider it to be is just a sporty looking model that they got, better gas mileage but with the look, so it is still technically an sti bumper by the part number in the system, but its just a sport bumper yes.

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did the aussies even get the sti or is that all import?

round skiff
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I have no idea

prime saddle
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i think its 20 years there if so but they have have got the bugeye sti

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no idea dont really care

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the 22b narrowbody bumper was an option called the sport bumper actually but it was only for the stis and wrxs

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well actually the bumper is a wrx bumper it was on the wrxs too but we call it sti cause we can i guess.

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and just to let you know i do not support america, dont blame me for your problems

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im writing an essay litterly right now about what it means to be an American and i have no fucking clue what im doing

drifting forge
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OH JOY

My Saab broke.
Suspecting DPF/EGR gone

So now I've got TWO broken cars.

One that drinks ALL the oil and chews piston rings
Another than will bog down on the motorway and refuse to rev

Soooo.... Subaru being slightly less of a hazard to drive, will be taking on commute duties till saab is fixed...

great.

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Also that means a good chunk of the money that was going to go into the subaru engine rebuild is now going to going to go into fixing the saab.

round skiff
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Cheapest solution, have the EGR didabled

drifting forge
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Yep, if they're the culprit, EGR is gonna get blanked off and the DPF is gonna meet Mr. core drill.

round skiff
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AFAIK you don't even need to physically touch it, you can just have it programmed so that it never opens

drifting forge
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yeah but it's a more sure-fire way to unbolt it, slip a blocking plate under it and bolt it back up to pass the visual inspection during MOT. just programming it to shut can still leak

round skiff
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True

drifting forge
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Fresh brakes yay

round skiff
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Nice

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Braided lines?

drifting forge
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yeah those went in during the rebuild

round skiff
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Nice, those combined with RBF600 and you'll never lose brakes

drifting forge
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mate I made the brake hardlines. the chance of losing brakes is very real 🤣

round skiff
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Lol

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As long as you didn't use single flare

drifting forge
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i think I made them double flares

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... i think ...

round skiff
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In the end working brakes will only slow you down

pearl oak
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Ooooooh pretty!

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Now it just needs to move properly

drifting forge
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I needed SOMETHING there, so...

round skiff
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In case you forget

drifting forge
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Yeah I mean, you know, constantly switching between the saab and the subaru, can really mess up my gearshift patterns

round skiff
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You could do a fuel pressure gauge, I assume you already had the AFR up there somewhere

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Nevermind, looks like MM doesn't do FP gauges in that style

drifting forge
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yeah have AFR, I know you mentioned a fuel pressure gauge too, but that's maybe gonna happen only when I go for aftermarket fuel rails

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I need to find a new set of gauges for there, with white face, green light and matching.

round skiff
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No switchable bulb?

drifting forge
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want a proper, even lighting. the single bulb that these have looks horrible and annoys me

round skiff
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Realdash

drifting forge
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no i hate the digital shite

round skiff
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Analog gauges in a digital screen

drifting forge
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digital gauge clusters can go fuck right off to dead pixel hell

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also that shit is just begging to overheat the second there is a bit of sun outside

round skiff
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Meanwhile

drifting forge
round skiff
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Not yet

drifting forge
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You'll see what I mean when you do

round skiff
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Though it won't be in the sun

drifting forge
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theres daylight outside isnt it?

round skiff
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But we'll see, if it cooks, it cooks

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Bro it's Finland

drifting forge
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you get a high of 20 degress at leats twice a year according to my friend

round skiff
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It's like +5C in summer

drifting forge
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thats enough

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because I know he constantly bitches that he's melting when it's sunny

round skiff
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If it does that I'll get a separate Android device and have just the monitor on dash

drifting forge
round skiff
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Actually this tablet has been on dad's van for a long time

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Never once overheated

drifting forge
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heck if my phone is anything to go by, if it's mildly warm outside and plugged into charge while running android auto, it will overheat, even if itt's just sitting in that cubby between the center console and the gear shifter

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ALL my phones have done that

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iphones, oneplus, google pixel

round skiff
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Must be the climate

prime saddle
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lol mine never overheat, it hit 109 a few days ago, left my shit in the car and we chillin

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my phone did overheat when i left it on the hood of my car in the hot sun but that dosent really count

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the gc8s are so small it gets hot FAST in the inside, i need to get aome iv protection film installed because smol car

pearl oak
drifting forge
pearl oak
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Yeah pretty sure the annoying combination of metal and or glass backed phones of the modern era is very shitty when it comes to thermals, along with a thick case it basically means with how humid the uk is, the heat gets too much too quick

drifting forge
round skiff
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Not to mention the STI pump you'll now need to power the quicker rack

drifting forge
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nah be fine

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only difference is the pitch of the rack and pinion... allegedlry....

round skiff
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Yep, but less turns means more force. There's a good chance the pump will eat shit eventually

drifting forge
# round skiff Yep, but less turns means more force. There's a good chance the pump will eat sh...

be fine, I'm planning an electric PAS pump conversion anyway https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EP6HPe4OKQc

Sequenced start-up of a TS Astra power steering pump. The first 20 seconds shows the slow start that happens when the black control wire gets power applied at the same time as the blue/white wire. From 20 seconds onwards the black wire has power applied first, and then the blue/white wire about 2 seconds later.

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2 wires. a relay, a fuse and some custom hydraulic hoses and she'll be reet

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get a relocation bracket for the alternator too while I'm at it and the way will be cleared for a rotated manifold.

round skiff
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Yeah that should work

drifting forge
prime saddle
drifting forge
round skiff
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Looking good. I like how the front end is distinct but not flashy

drifting forge
#

Went to Radwood UK. Was a nice day out with the mates, but the event itself was a bit underwhelming to be honest...

drifting forge
prime saddle
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@drifting forge whts the company called that has a lot of oem parts

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the one you showed me with the jdm bumper suports

drifting forge
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Importcarparts

drifting forge
#

when switching from the factory 2-port boost slenoid to a pierburg type 3-port, do I retain the boost restrictor pill?

round skiff
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No

drifting forge
#

Anyway. Good news!
My car is now unstealable.

I have just spent the morning installing a £1200 anti-theft device.

You can't steal a car if it doesn't run

round skiff
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I hope for the price it also controls the engine

drifting forge
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at some point it will

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but I'm missing some vacuum hose

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and I've managed to destroy the IAT sensor and butcher the plug trying to wire it on

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because goes to show how inept I am at wiring if I can't even do a 2-pin JPT connector right

round skiff
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My friend, don't you trust me?

prime saddle
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wow adi

drifting forge
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i posted that like 3 hours ago, admins only approved it now lol

prime saddle
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being rude like that

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yeah they suck ass

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adrian dragan deez nuts on your face

round skiff
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Wish I knew better when I bought the MAC valve. It's probably more durable but the Pierburg is like 20€ and lot more subdued

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Also doesn't need the ugly brass barbs

drifting forge
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I bought the MAC first. but then the pierburg came with an adapter to the factory wiring so I didn't have to do any wiring so went with that instead

round skiff
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Initially I used 2 2.8mm male Abikos to plug into the stock harness, but integrated it to the engine harness when I redid that

prime saddle
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based

drifting forge
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think I'mma bust the ole laptop out, hook up the battery, and finally put in that unlock code

round skiff
#

I wonder why they even bother with an unlock code with a physical device and a software that is free to download

drifting forge
#

Well, fuck me gently.

round skiff
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I was going to say "best time is now, so you have more time to sort out the issues"

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Well there's your first

drifting forge
#

So wiring fucked on tps or some shit. Beautiful.

round skiff
#

Isn't it all factory wiring?

drifting forge
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it is. and I've been having TPS issues since forever

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now I can actually see the readout tho

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confirming it's fucked

round skiff
#

No wonder

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But also why I love standalones

drifting forge
#

need to find what pins the TPS wires are at the ECU, and probably just run a direct connection to the TPS

round skiff
#

You want a pinout?

drifting forge
#

I think I have a pinout somewhere, but wasn't able to figure out which pins it is the first time around...

prime saddle
#

well quick lookup in the fsm and you got it

drifting forge
prime saddle
#

wdym

round skiff
#

Except FSM doesn't really want to give you old turbo stuff

prime saddle
#

youre the one that sent me the fsm

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its basically the same for jap models

drifting forge
#

yeah, for the non turbo

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turbo is different

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different ecu

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different wiring

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different pinouts

prime saddle
#

you sent me one for wrx, 2.5rs, and base impreza

#

wrx should be the same as yours

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ecu and all

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if not the difference is minimal

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ill go look for it

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v5/v6 right?

round skiff
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Yeah

drifting forge
#

yeah

prime saddle
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i dont have nitro file is too good for me

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it said 2000 turbo on it thougj

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any other way i can send it to you?

drifting forge
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i have no idea what nitro file is

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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discord nitro

prime saddle
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the file is too big

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yeah

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sorry lol i need nitro to send bigger files

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its just kinda on there i dont know how to send it to you otherwise

drifting forge
#

just take a screenshot of the page with the pinouts?

prime saddle
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uh

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okay ill look for it but im not very good with these

drifting forge
#

neither am I lol

prime saddle
#

you need the tps -> ecu correct?

drifting forge
#

yeah

prime saddle
#

ok ill look

round skiff
#

You could try filedrop

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I'm curious to see that too

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I have some V5 shit

prime saddle
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here ill put it in a drive and send the drive link

drifting forge
#

yeah, can try filedrop or drive or wetransfer

prime saddle
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okay i have no idea what any of that is

round skiff
#

Google filedrop

prime saddle
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oh

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i see drive

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nvm

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oh

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try that

round skiff
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I sent a request

round skiff
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@prime saddle Can you go to your gmail and accept access to the drive?

prime saddle
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yeah

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sorry im in the middle of classes

round skiff
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No trouble, thanks

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That's for the V3-V4

drifting forge
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ah, fortunately link provides a pinout

round skiff
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Now that you say that, that's how I got my IAT wired to the PFC

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Completely forgot

drifting forge
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I don't see the TPS on the pinout list tho

round skiff
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B136-20, An Volt 3

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First image

drifting forge
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wheres the others tho

round skiff
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B136-12 5V and the sensor ground seems to be unspecified ground

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B136-24

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is sensor GND

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Oh it's labeled

prime saddle
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in the list of vehicles

round skiff
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There's still V1-V6 of them

prime saddle
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they had v6 in 2000 though right?

round skiff
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Yeah

drifting forge
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"Turbo 2000" is the model name, not the year

prime saddle
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huh okay well I'll go farther down the list that was just the first turbo one i saw

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thought it said v5/v6 on it though

drifting forge
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no worries 🤣

prime saddle
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ah okay i see what happend

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the v1-v4 is right next to the v5-v6 i must have misclicked

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i think i have the correct one now

drifting forge
round skiff
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Does the actuator arm or whatever seem okay?

drifting forge
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I... I think I just had it on the wrong way all this time... and my stupidity led me to need an engine rebuild, and spend £1200 on a standalone ECU... fml.

round skiff
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Oh you had the actuator on the wrong side? Ah man

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But think positive, now you have great control over the car and diagnostics are lot easier now that you can see every value

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And presumably have Link's own fault codes that are probably more helpful than Subaru's own ones

drifting forge
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Yeah, and I know the engine will be a clean slate after the rebuild. There is a bright side at least...

drifting forge
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hnnnng so tempted to enable piston melt mode

drifting forge
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Gonna model up a 52mm gauge plug with holes to stick these two lil switches in, and wire them up to two of the DI slots on the ECU, for later use. Ones gonna be a map switch, the other is gonna be the antilag when I eventually get all the parts I need for it

round skiff
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Are you going to have a MAF or SD tune?

drifting forge
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deleting the MAF

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MAF can get fucked right out

round skiff
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So you don't need a map switch, just a switch to change boost tables

drifting forge
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yeah well thats what it's gonna do

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anyway, tadaa

round skiff
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Nice

drifting forge
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now to send it to my one friend with a functional 3D printer

round skiff
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Also I didn't know you need a pullup for switches, so if yours doesn't work, check that

drifting forge
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a what

round skiff
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A 5v source to compare the switch state with

drifting forge
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ah

round skiff
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I was confused as to why my clutch and brake switches weren't working

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Turned on pullups for both inputs and tada

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I just assumed it would just check if the input was grounded or not but apparently no

drifting forge
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Summary of the story of the blue turd so far

pt.1 My wheel bearings are going, I'll fix that by doing a rear disc brake conversion

pt.2 My brake lines are bad, I'll fix that by stripping the whole car down to a bare shell, fixing the rust, sandblasting, powdercoating everything, repiping everything... aaaaaaand doing a full turbo engine swap

pt.3 My TPS isn't working, I'll fix that by going full-bore and buying a standalone ECU

pt.4 My engine is losing oil, I'll fix that by going full hog and getting it forged.

round skiff
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Sounds familiar

drifting forge
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pt.5 is probably gonna be "I've blown my gearbox, I'll fix that by doing a 6-speed trans swap"

round skiff
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Honestly that's the rational response

drifting forge
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I heard the forester 6-speeds have longer gear ratios, so that's probably what I'll be looking for

round skiff
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If you find a DCCD one I'll trade my non-DCCD so you don't have to pay for a controller

drifting forge
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absolutely don't want DCCD, same reason why I don't want AVCS, really don't want to deal with the headache of extra shit that might break

round skiff
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The gearings are pretty much the same

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But you'll want either the 0.756 or 0.707 6th

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The 6 speed is basically a 5 speed with an extra gear inbetween

drifting forge
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hmmm maybe I can get a stupid long overdrive 6th gear made

round skiff
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Which to me was a slight disappointment

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I thought about that too

drifting forge
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but then I could probably just do that for the 5-speed

round skiff
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Doesn't change the fact that you have a shite transmission then

drifting forge
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true true true

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engine first tho

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then coilies... again

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this time new, not used

round skiff
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You have COPs?

drifting forge
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no, I'm staying with the coil pack

round skiff
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Oh and by the way you can buy the 0.707 gear pair, it gives a decently long sixth

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Costs a few hundred tho

drifting forge
round skiff
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You don't really want that

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5th will be too short for 50 ish mph and going below 0.7 the 6th is too long

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You'd be lugging it

drifting forge
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I really want to get it to where it's cruising at 80 at no more than 2500rpm

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right now it does 70 at 3000

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might be because its severely down on power tho, from the whole TPS/oil issues/not going past 5psi boost thing

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will see how it goes after it's been mapped

round skiff
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Power doesn't affect rpm though

drifting forge
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I'll see how it goes after it's been mapped and the engines been rebuilt

drifting forge
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OooOOOOooo looky what I've nabbed.

round skiff
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Don't you have that already? Or do you have that storage cubby?

drifting forge
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I had a crappy one made out of a butchered lhd 3-gauge holder and a fiat 500 DIN adapter, now I'll have a proper one.

round skiff
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Oh yeah that's right

drifting forge
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@round skiff my engine builder just called me with some news

round skiff
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Worries me that you didn't say "good news"

prime saddle
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block is cracked

drifting forge
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I had tasked him to keep an eye out for me for an ej207 block

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He found one

round skiff
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Nice

prime saddle
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but

drifting forge
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Semi closed deck out of a WR1

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£500

round skiff
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If it's a 207 block it better be SCD

prime saddle
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theres something wrong with it

round skiff
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No that's a typical price for a block

prime saddle
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or american prices are fucking outragous

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okay yeah thats it

round skiff
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Actually that's high enough that some can't even sell them for that

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Is it case halves or a shortblovk?

prime saddle
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when i turn 18 bang battaboom im outta there no more rights for me adi were getting married and were swapping places

round skiff
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I apparently can't spell the word block

drifting forge
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Cheapest I could find was £650 for case halves with a badly scored cylinder

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Prices have gone up

prime saddle
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thats the russian spelling for block

round skiff
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Is this one STD size?

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Wouldn't want an already oversized one

drifting forge
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Supposedly

round skiff
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Easily checked with a bore gauge

prime saddle
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if i pay you for a 207 block can you ship one to me adi?

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we cant find a shortblock less than 3k here

round skiff
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Sure, you'll just end up paying triple just for the shipping

prime saddle
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litteral shipping included would be cheaper

drifting forge
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He said hell go check it out and let me know

round skiff
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Nice

drifting forge
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But by all accounts, ya boi gonna be getting an STI shortblock. Now my STI oil cap will be justified in existing

prime saddle
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mine isnt

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never will be

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prodrive oil cap not sti though

drifting forge
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You'll get there. It just takes lots and lots of pain

round skiff
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I'm still a bit pissy about my 255/257 shortblock

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The torque was so nice

prime saddle
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im not swapping my rs im just going to buy an ra or r but i will swap one with a ee20

round skiff
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Though my neighbor who runs a shop was confident he could sleeve that reliably, unlike what the consensus in this server is

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Why would you ever want an EE20?

drifting forge
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Oooh ee20 is just asking for trouble. They're cool buy they like to warp the casings and snap the crankshaft every 50k miles

round skiff
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According to that same neighbor the 2011 revision doesn't even offer 100% salvation

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Shit engine through and through

prime saddle
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i can get a custom made crankshaft at fierce motorsports for like 500 bucks, solid billet

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just need the original one

round skiff
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Yeah but it's the block that's shite

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The caps fail

prime saddle
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i can get everything custom made

drifting forge
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I derive endless schadenfreude from the romanian subaru groups where all the cheapskates bought diesels because they're too cheap to afford the mpg on a petrol subaru, and every day theres posts about their diesels knocking

round skiff
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Get a better engine to begin with

prime saddle
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no fuck you

round skiff
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It's lazy and not even reliable

prime saddle
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im lazy

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im american

drifting forge
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Ngl if it was reliable I'd have done an ee20 swap too for shits and giggles and to roll coal

round skiff
prime saddle
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i just want it for the desiel title

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wouldnt be a dd but would be to tow my no title L

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my new one

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i have 2 Ls now

drifting forge
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Mans about to become the tennessee version of 802 garage

prime saddle
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lol

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yeah if i got my dream cars it would be a warhouse

drifting forge
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Get a mechanic friend to put a lien on the no title impreza, the "sell" you the car

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Boom. Title.

prime saddle
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next non subaru on the list is either a 2018 nissan sentra nismo or a porsche 996

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that doesnt work here

drifting forge
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Booo

prime saddle
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if its a lost title you legally cant get a title at all

drifting forge
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Go to florida then

prime saddle
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whats in flordia

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im allergic to mosquitoes

drifting forge
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Lots of ways to cheese a title on a no title car from what I've heard

prime saddle
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probaly why there isnt any no title ones being sold there

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although hard to find a gc anyways here, got to go to cali for that

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everything is cali is sti swapped at 20k asking price because its a coupe

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hard to find a stock coupe, i really want something stock

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wrcs coming to chatanooga next year, basically an hour drive for me might go watch some races

drifting forge
prime saddle
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well

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they have iwire there so teh swap is much easier

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you know what iwire is?

drifting forge
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yeah

prime saddle
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not insulting you but i dont know if its an American only thing or if they do it other places too

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okay

drifting forge
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I know they charge a lot and mainly do newage turbo to classic non turbo adapters

prime saddle
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yeah

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mainly gd stuff

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they are a pain in the ass to work with

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i probaly will have to do the harness myself if i do do the ee20 swap because they dont seem to understand anything but gd sti swap

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the only expensive thing they have there is needing actual oem Catylitic converters and emmisions things, no cels, stuff like that but the cat thing is canceled out by the insane, and i mean INSANE amount of subaru there, junkyards, on the road, in peoples yards. legit see like 2 gc8s every day minimum

drifting forge
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oh if only cali wasn't such a hellhole

prime saddle
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so overall the engine costs maybe 4000 but if you get it at a junkyard mybe 1k plus anything else you need, then the harness just drive to iwire and give them a few weeks and 500 bucks, boom you got 5k innit, then the car a coupe maybe 6k if you can find any left not swapped. then odds and ends which they usually cheap out on or manage to find in, you guessed it, a junkyard and thats maybe 3k so you got 12-15k in a car you sell for 20-30k

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thats top end if you go the cheapest route 10k max

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i dont know if im angry because they are earning money and im not, the fact they ruin these cars and think people like them, or that i cant find a stock one or close to because all of them are sti swapped

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it really pisses me off when people ask for a stock rs coupe and EVERYBODY throws their offer daying "Yo bro i got this wrb sti swapped coupe 20k" and thats basically the entire comment section

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or maybe im just pissed off

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probaly a mix of all of it

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legit opened facebook scrolled 2 posts and HERE WE FUCKIN GO

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its an L with no body mods so its 15k but l coupe maybe 4k, sti swap maybe 5k boom 6k profit

drifting forge
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man I dunno what to say, I'm at least 15k into my swap right now and its still not done

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so... 5k for a swap i'm very sus

prime saddle
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well you buy real parts

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i mean yours looks awesome, the morrettes, front lip, roof camper

drifting forge
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if only it worked...

prime saddle
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these all are just the same, rs stuff with stock body parts, kaizen lights,

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its all the same

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well i dunno why yours doesnt work

drifting forge
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I know, it's because I had the TPS on wrong like a dumb dumb

prime saddle
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you keep having failures so its something else causing those failures other than the failures themself

drifting forge
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and I had it on wrong for so long that it broke other shit

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oh and then the used coilovers turned out to be crap

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and then the rebuilt steering rack broke

prime saddle
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well that just sounds like bad quality stuff

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and im sure shit gives out on these pretty quick, build, sell, repeat

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being rhd semms to be a pain aswell because any part associated with them are considered "STI Rare" buy all the big dealers like cam, peter, orlando, bryan, even people in new Zealand

round skiff
drifting forge
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sooooo just sent the deposit on the 207

prime saddle
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the roof vent stuff? or just some shitty bracket

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the full kit is reasonable for what it is i mean aluminum is expensive down where he is. plus having to make your own rubber gasket. but if youre talking about the latch alone for 100 bucks that is a scam, that costs like 20 bucks max and i feel like 10-20 bucks profit is more reasonable especially since you can fit it in an envelope

round skiff
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Pedal adapter

prime saddle
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oh

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wait

round skiff
prime saddle
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what the fuck

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i see what you mean

round skiff
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Yeah

prime saddle
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like 5mm sheet of aluminum with drill holes

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thats bullshit

round skiff
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I get you also pay for R&D but that's just idiotic

prime saddle
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i hate dbw anyway so i wont have to deal with that

round skiff
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Why

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Thanks to DBW I'll never hit the rev limit and I also have cruise now