#Ideas for Chiba, Kanagawa, Yamanashi, Shizuoka

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final otter
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I have yet to book a flight, but I'm kinda brainstorming on a plan for a May trip, likely starting and ending at Narita. Idea is to fly in on the 5th of May, and fly back home on the 20th, though I am still considering stretching it with a couple more days to almost three weeks in total.

So far I have two days at the end that are more or less set in stone: On the 17th and 18th there's both the Shizuoka Hobby Show and the Granship Train Festa. I have already booked a hotel for that, not exactly the most ideal one, but it was the best I could get.

One option I considered first was focus mostly on Tokyo and surroundings, with also the Kanda Matsuri on the 10th and 11th. But already seen that getting a hotel that weekend is somewhat difficult/pricey, and I also kinda want to avoid Tokyo for once.

A rough route I've come up with so far:

  • From the airport straight to Sawara (canal area, matsuri museum)
  • Choshi (mostly for the Choshi Denkitetsudo)
  • Chiba (is there anything interesting in the city itself, besides the monorail?)
  • Kisarazu (base for Mt. Nokogiri)
  • via Umihotaro to Kawasaki or Yokohama (still have several railway and car museums in that area)
  • Kofu (Maglev Exhibition Center, Shosenkyo)
  • Shizuoka (Hobby Show, Train Festa)
  • In case I would stretch it to three weeks, Kanaya (Oigawa Railway) and maybe Hamanako
  • Back to Tokyo for the flight home

Any thoughts on this? Other interesting places in those areas I should squeeze in?

gaunt shard
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If that first week of May is Golden Week, it's probably sold out, but this is the Marines schedule just to show their home games as circled

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For Yamanashi, have you seen Hokuto already? I'd be curious if a pilgrimage for Super Cub. Bet I could find information from their chamber of commerce.

final otter
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Right now I had Chiba at the 8th, so no luck. And wouldn't make much sense to go there earlier. Still, it is one thing to consider......would love to visit a game. That said, considering with these plans I'm quite close to Kashima and later also visit Shizuoka , can also check for a football game....

final otter
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I do have a go from the office (even when there is a overlap with one co-worker which might have been problematic....but I was first), so first think of the flights and how long in total I'll go, and then think of the exact route. Kinda disappointed @valid bay hasn't spammed this thread yet? ๐Ÿ˜†

valid bay
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My suggestions are often ignored.

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Johnny Bot complaining now.

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The bus service to get there runs like 4x a day or thereabouts.

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Still within my checklist to visit (like Hoki Museum). Maybe I have to do up an itinerary wholly for Chiba to make it to some of these places in my Chiba checklist. ๐Ÿค”

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@final otter Spammed enough? ๐Ÿ˜

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misty current
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I live for the berantle spams and I treat it like a challenge to visit all of them in my lifetime

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Speaking for Chiba station vicinity, if you're north/east of the tracks from Chibachuo station, you'll have a lot of restaurants to choose from with chains or mom and pops. Very high variety to wing it.

Shiokaze Brewing is one of the craft beer companies of the prefecture.

This location is closer to the Monorail. There's also locations conveniently near Soga station and Kemigawahama.

Trivially the owner (Chris) is an expat from Michigan. Once a JET, he's been living in Japan for decades. He was running this OG location and I had a conversation with him.

Obviously I'd grab fresh peanuts if you can find them. Should be easy since it's grown in the area.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/vGnyzr8ND7trixqWA

final otter
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Update: Flight is booked, I'll be arriving at Narita on the 6th of May, and fly back home on the 25th, also from Narita.

valid bay
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Here to now throw a spanner into your planned itinerary pvg

final otter
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More pins on Google Maps.....the area is starting to get more and more populated.....

valid bay
final otter
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Hey, that's Tokyo! Not allowed! ๐Ÿ˜†
(even when I still consider the Kanda Matsuri....)

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final otter
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Gotta love the creative station names ๐Ÿ˜‚

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final otter
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Also noticed that Nifu place in the mall......you can bathe in fermented sawdust there ๐Ÿคฏ
(starting from 7k yen.....I'll stick with the sento)

final otter
valid bay
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That amusement park has been in my book marks for some time but I just did not feel like I want to go all the way just for that.

final otter
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Fuji-Q is probably my highest priority park right now, did check how feasible it would be to go from Kofu (assuming I go that route, which is not exactly certain yet), but that's still pretty long. And you want to be there early.....

Also, don't know if Eejanaika is running again or still suspended. Which would absolutely be a dealbreaker.

valid bay
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Very near border of Tokyo with Kawasaki, Kanagawa.

final otter
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Anything on the Miura peninsula, apart from Yokosuka?

valid bay
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Not been all the way down to Miura. Up to Hayama on the west side and to Kurihama on the east side.

misty current
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I went in late-feb to see the Kawazuzakura but I'm not sure if it'll be that interesting in May

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They're famous for tuna there

final otter
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Well, some progress so far: Have booked hotels for the first 8 nights. First I'll stay 2 nights in Narita, seems a bit more practical than Sawara. Then one night in Choshi, followed by 3 nights in Chiba.m And then cross the bay to Kawasaki.

From there I'm not quite sure yet, with 2 more nights until Shizuoka. Still considering Kofu, though that feels a bit out of the way considering how little time I'll have. Alternative could be Atami or Numazu. And still haven't really thought about the last week, Oigawa railway is still on the list, or maybe mix things up a bit and put Kofu after Shizuoka, giving it a bit more time before returning to Tokyo for the flight.

final otter
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Btw, has anyone been on Umihotaru? Are there any storage lockers? As the plan is to go there by bus, look around for a while, maybe have a meal, and then take a later bus to Kawasaki. Would be pretty annoying while hauling around my luggage....

valid bay
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Sorry, I haven't and don't expect to go to Umihotaru. I deleted it from my bookmarks and plans, even before the pandemic. Don't think it is worth the trouble.

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๐Ÿค” Maybe if I end up driving in a Tokyo visit, I would go to have a look but otherwise, nope.

final otter
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Just seems like such a outlandish place, one of the typical excesses of the bubble economy. And going that route fits perfectly in my attempts to avoid Tokyo as much as possible ๐Ÿ˜

That said, one option I have also thought of is going there on the way back from Nokogiri (so without luggage), and just go to Umihotaru and back, not through the tunnel. And then the next day either go all the way to Kawasaki (or just take the boring train around the bay).

Otherwise it would be a bit of a gamble, and if they don't have lockers, hope I can leave my luggage somewhere for a while. But I have had some bad experiences with that ๐Ÿ˜…

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One thing still on my list is Fuji-Q Highland, though that won't happen until Eejanaika gets reopened (at least, I hope they won't Do-Dodonpa it....). But still, it won't hurt to check how things are going on a weekday, and kinda hoped to also see waiting times. Well, learned one thing today: Definitely don't go on a cold, rainy day ๐Ÿ˜…

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And only now noticed I shouldn't wait any longer than 7 years or they might not let me ride Eejanaika and Takabisha at all ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

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Back to the start of the trip, I might add a bit of Ibaraki to my trip: Happened to come across an article about Kashima Jingu, and how long it would take to get there from central Tokyo. Well......it's only a 20 minute train ride from Sawara which I was already planning to visit, so seems like a perfect opportunity to combine both. And considering the shrine itself is open 24/7, no need to hurry for closing time either.

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final otter
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I have actually been looking at that, but not quite sure if after a long and probably tiring day on the mountain I still have the energy for what will still be quite a trip. And if I would do that as part of the route instead of just Nokogiri as a day trip, I still have the luggage issue. Seems like they do have a few lockers at the ferry terminal, but not that many:

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And I obviously would still have to visit Umihotaru as a separate destination then...

valid bay
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It is an option.

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A way to bypass going through Tokyo.

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Not necessarily to do it as part of Mt. Nokogiri day trip.

final otter
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Might rethink that bit of the route....but first better decide what to do with the remaining days ๐Ÿ˜…
(I do like my ferries though....)

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valid bay
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final otter
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At the time didn't know my blood pressure was higher than the SkyTree though ๐Ÿ˜…

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I didn't know a few Fuji Q rides still aren't operational... Good thing I didn't go in

final otter
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Luckily Nagashimasuka - Shoot the Chute stays open during rain.....you'll get wet anyway ๐Ÿ˜†

Although watched a video of it, and while you surely won't stay dry, it's not that bad. At leat not compared to the one at Nagashima Spa Land. there they provided ponchos to cover you from top to toe. And before I did the ride I questioned if that was even necessary, I mean, I'm not afraid of a few drops of water. Glad I made the right choice though.......some others clearly didn't ๐Ÿคฃ

vast mist
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There's a city in Chiba called Ohara that has a fish market that sells snacks and food. Only Sundays. Saw someone get lobster stew for like 500 yen.

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At my local parks it was always smart to stand on that bridge for a hot day. Knew the perfect angles to get wet. I'm impressed that one was built at the right angle for that splash. I remember not getting very wet on one of our own

final otter
# vast mist There's a city in Chiba called Ohara that has a fish market that sells snacks an...

Seen that indeed, maybe could include that I think. On Sunday I was already planning to visit nearby Otaki from Chiba, also to ride the Kominato Tetsudo and Isumi Tetsudo....at least if the latter one is actually running as apparently they had an accident and are now running buses instead.

But what I could do is from Chiba just take JR to Ohara (which should take about an hour), visit that fish market, then to Otaki, and then back to Chiba the slow way via those other rail lines. I kinda like that idea....

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Seems like there are a few nice places and views further south on the peninsula, but even when there is a train going there, seems like a rental car would be much more practical there.

final otter
# gaunt shard At my local parks it was always smart to stand on that bridge for a hot day. Kne...

Over here we only have log flumes and the likes where you might get a bit wet, how wet mostly depends on luck. On this one though, you were guaranteed to get absolutely soaked.....hence those ponchos.

And it wasn't at all busy in the park, so I hadn't seen any other rides before I went so didn't expect this kind of splash either.. And even this video was a bit of a gamble, wasn't sure if I was standing at a safe spot....

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Translation of the replacement bus schedule is also nice ๐Ÿ’ฉ โ˜ข๏ธ :

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But times aren't quite convenient...that 13:20 would leave me a lot of time at Ohara but little at Otaki, but te 10:25 would make things rather tight in the morning. Leave 7:38 or 7:46 (1 minute transfer....) at Chiba, arrive at Ohara at 8:31. It should be a 20 minute walk to the fish market, so would have about an hour before I have to return to the station. Apparently it can get quite busy, with that lobster stew being the favorite with a long queue...

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They even have a pretty decent website, even if it's only in Japanese: http://minato-asaichi.com/

And helpful, because it shows when the market is held....though not far in advance. I got a bit worried when another website mentioned the market is only held on the 1st and 3rd Sunday of each month, while I'll be going on the 2nd.....but false alarm it seems.

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final otter
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Added that aquarium to the list.....was already planning to visit Choshi (and actually stay one night), but apart from the Choshi Denkitetsudo, the lighthouse museum and some rock formations didn't have that much to do there.

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Kominato and Isumi railways already were on the list, though unfortunately seems like the Isumi railway will still be running buses instead of trains.

final otter
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For Choshi now have a hotel (Route Inn) in the town itself, but there are a couple of hotels not far from Inubo Station.....might be interesting to stay there....

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I haven't had a dud with craft beer so far in Japan. Some don't wow you, but they're never bad. Only at 6 direct visits up to this point

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But hey I love uniqueness of visiting Craft breweries when I need to slow down travelling

final otter
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Still have to plan and book hotels for 7 nights, probably should focus more on that instead of more Chiba ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I'm planning for Chiba too...just to do something

final otter
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Think I'll go with Numazu and/or Atami for the two days I still have between Kawasaki and (not-)Shizuoka.

And then go the Kofu and maybe some Saitama route to get back to Narita.

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Still trying whatever to avoid Tokyo ๐Ÿ˜†

valid bay
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Soon, you will have too many options and things to do that you might as well stay longer in Chiba prefecture.

final otter
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Have been looking at the lower part of Boso peninsula, but just doesn't seem that much to do, and clearly better traveled by car than train.

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Tateyama appears to have a museum and a few fish restaurants I'll try

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Either way, I gotta do something towards the blank

final otter
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So right now it's Narita, then Choshi, and finally Chiba. With the latter being just a base for a couple of day trips.

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Chiba city seems like a perfect base.

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final otter
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Current plan day by day:
1-Tu) arrival, afternoon in Narita city itself
2-We) Sawara and either Kashima Jingu or Katori Jingu
3-Th) Yukarigaoka, Sakura and/or Museum of Aeronautical Sciences, move on to Choshi
4-Fr) Choshi Denkitetsudo and stuff along that line, move on to Chiba
5-Sa) Nokogiri, depending on time maybe either Tateyame or Umihotaru on the way back
6-Su) Ohara fish market, Otaki, return to Chiba by Kominato Tetsudo
7-Mo) bus to Kawasaki (ferry seems a bit too out there....), maybe Umihotaru along the way, Kawasaki Daishi
8-Tu) Still to plan: Nissan Heritage Collection, Isuzu Plaza, Romancecar Museum, Denbus Museum, Nihon Minka-en, Taro Okamoto Museum of Art
9-We) More of the above, move on to next place (probably Numazu)

And from there on it's still mostly open, apart from the weekend which will be all about the Shizuoka Hobby Show and the Granship Train Festa.

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I'm gonna watch through this because this ๆฐดใƒใƒฉ episode is Chiba centric. They take a journey from Kamogawa to Naritasan park. All 53 municipalities are in play.

https://youtu.be/QOKal1F4Pzo?si=myP-GzIhKv7oE_h9

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final otter
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Anyone any thoughts on Numazu vs. Mishima as a place to stay? Would be for 2 nights, in part for a day trip to Shuzenji. And for the other stuff I've seen it doesn't really seem to matter in which of the two to stay, after all it's just a small ride on the Tokaido between the two, and mostly buses from there.

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@hollow coral , you had been to Numazu recently, haven't you? Any recommendations?

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Well, already booked a hotel in Numazu. At first thought had very similar offers for both places and Mishimi seemed slightly more convenient, but the best hotel deal there turned out to be a partner deal that wasn't actually available anymore, and the only a bit more expensive Dormy Inn was also a partner deal but non-refundable.....or over 50% more expensive with free cancellation. Nope.....so Numazu it is!

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Meanwhile I keep checking if I can get something a bit more convenient for Shizuoka, but I guess that's just not gonna happen. The hotel in Okitsu I had already booked for 8k per night is now already up to over 20k, and the cheapest place in Shizuoka itself is a 42k(!) dorm bed(!!!)....

That said, apart from the poor location I do kinda like the hotel I have now....seems more like a supersento with some rooms attached, as it has a whole variety of baths, saunas as well as a pool, also I count at least 8 different restaurants. They also have a free hourly shuttle bus from the station. And something that might also be interesting: They provide a free shuttle bus between this and their other hotels near Kofu and Matsumoto......and my next destination might just be Kofu....

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final otter
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Too bad it's an 8 hour walk from the nearest train station ๐Ÿ˜†

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final otter
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Well, the doctor did say I needed more exercise to get my blood pressure down ๐Ÿค”

valid bay
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Plus you still get the cardiovascular exercise.

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The onsen soak at the ryokan will ease the physical soreness.

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I have a feeling that would still be an uphill battle.....literally ๐Ÿ˜…

valid bay
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If you have a motorcycle license, then rent a motorbike.

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I'd rent a bike. Man that's so tempting

final otter
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I haven't......so would have to rent a car.

valid bay
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Maybe rent a car to drive there since the route, the Minami Alps Highway, has a lot of good scenery. You can take a leisurely drive there and stop over at any interesting scenic spots.

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Well, then there's still the other issue: the โ‚ฌ400+ room rate....so far I'm at an average of โ‚ฌ56....

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final otter
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I'll probably just stick with Kofu as a base of operations ๐Ÿ˜…

First the basics, next time rent a car to get to all of the impossible places....

final otter
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And with 5 days remaining after Shizuoka, I think that's gonna be 3 nights in Kofu and the last two in Tokyo. Or maybe Saitama, to keep avoiding Tokyo to the end....
(well, crossing a bit will be unavoidable....)

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How busy would the Keihin-Tohoku line be from Omiya to Nippori around 8 on a Saturday morning? As that would be about the time I'd have to go to the airport....

hollow coral
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We did go to this one fish market where they have grills you can rent and just grill up anything you buy

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The old guy there was awesome ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Dunno if he would still be there

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But the place was cool

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We had very little time though xp

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This spot

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And we went to some place for sushi for lunch.. But I can't remember

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Had some street food, wandered aroumd

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around

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I have a couple spots saved

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That kaiten sushi place seems popular and good

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This is the spot Okawari shared recently

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Also have some random Italian spot saved but just looks.. Normal ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Numazu burger seems pretty famous

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Have lots of fish burgers

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They even have a shark burger

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Maybe it was featured in Love Live? Seems to be.. Or something

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final otter
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@hollow coral thanks! Some cool options, especially that market and sushi place! I'll see if I can fit those in at some point.

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Looks like the vicinity of this Numazu area was brought up. Saw a contestant eat a dessert here

https://maps.app.goo.gl/EGVt4mu6Z3wQjDkY7

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I'm messing around watching through the Chiba episode.

final otter
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Those other two places look good too, but too far out of the way. That dessert place though.....

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It looks like a bus goes down to that area from Numazu station.

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And this street appears to have a lot of that fresh seafood from the port vibes looking at the Restaurants in the vicinity

final otter
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Yeah, but it's at least an hour and a half bus ride if you're lucky, or up to three hours if you're not......that's a bit much just for lunch ๐Ÿ˜‰

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15 minutes not too bad

final otter
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Oh to those, sure. Thought you meant to that other one....

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My bad. Dessert one with those seafood restaurants looks doable

final otter
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The area also has the Deep Sea Aquarium and an observatory tower, so might go there anyway. Generally seems like a cool area.

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final otter
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At first considered staying in Kisarazu instead of Chiba, a bit closer to Nokogiri and also Umihotaru, but in the end opted for Chiba which is a lot more convenient for the Kominato Tetsudo/Isumi Tetsudo/Otaki/Ohara day trip. Might still get to Kisarazu at some point, though that tower might be just a bit to far from the station for a quick visit.

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final otter
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Yeah, every town seems to have a local history museum like that. If I'm there and have the time I tend to check them out, but it's not something I'd travel for.

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final otter
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Depending on the time I might go there too. Not the highest priotity though.

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I'm at the part where both sides are progressing north. So there could be more relevant things as I go

final otter
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Japan still cares about Internet Exploder.....

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I might go to this shop since I'll be on this train line

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Another case of if I have the time.....but will probably already be a long day.

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final otter
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Zero chance of going there.....in the morning I'll be in a hurry to make it to Ohara for the morning market, and won't return that same route.

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It appears at Goi station it's possible to buy a bunch of train related souvenirs in reference to the Kominato railway portion. The old trains are on display if the actual trains aren't running

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Given this is not a train game, it was fun to see them in the train station for a task

final otter
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I'll be sure to get some of that.....haven't planned any stops along the line, and probably won't have that much time at Kazusa-Nakano Station to switch to the replacement bus for the Isumi Line.

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So if I'm reading this right, the trains dont run and it's just a bus ride?

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Have you had Sangayaki before? Sounds like it is a Chiba dish

final otter
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Never heard of Sangayaki before, but sure would love to try....

gaunt shard
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That appears to be the task to claim Chiba City in this game. Hopefully the team actually goes to a restaurant

final otter
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Funny they talk about how service has been suspended on "all lines".....they operate only one ๐Ÿ˜†

I assume they have their service facilities at Ohara Station, and the accident has been just east of Otaki, so guess it makes sense they don't run anything right now.

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But I think I should now focus more on the other two weeks of my trip, can't do all of Chiba in just one week ๐Ÿ˜…

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Well, have now booked hotels for the entire trip. After Shizuoka went for three nights in Kofu and the last two in Saitama. Unfortunately no public bath in Kofu, as the only options for that would have been the two Dormy Inns, both of which not only were quite a bit more expensive than the Toyoko Inn, but also a lot further from the station. As for Saitama, got one (with bath!) just outside Omiya Station.

On average the hotels are โ‚ฌ56 per night, 9 of the 18 have breakfast included, and 13 out of 18 do have a public bath. And apart from the one in Okitsu, all are within 5 minutes from the train station.

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I'm from the same state as Schulz's studio. lol.

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final otter
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A yakitori-ya you seemingly need a reservation for......not sure if that's gonna happen ๐Ÿ˜…

hollow coral
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tabelog shows the range from 8000-9000 yen lol

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I might consider this as my first meal in Japan. Some risk getting out of the airport and checking in, that's doable