@Spazi i think im doing something wrong

[prisma trellis]

What is the problem at this moment precisely

And what instructions are you following

[fiery sinew]

i found this tutorial on youtube

i can link it if it will help u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci1ba7jVLFw&t=301s

but what's not working is that it doesn't let me pick the tile i place in the palette

@prisma trellis

here is an example

@prisma trellis could u walk me trough how to make one, i could make a new project and just try it again

@prisma trellis yo u here?

[prisma trellis]

The ppu is wrong, and you should still enable the grid in the palette

[fiery sinew]

I cant seem to enable to grid

[prisma trellis]

What happens if you click the grid button?

[fiery sinew]

Nothing

It just doesnt appear

I hopped of my pc like 5min ago

[prisma trellis]

If you're using Unity 6.2 it could be a bug with it

6.2 URP specifically
So I'd test with 6.1 or 6.0 or with built-in render pipeline if you're sure you don't need urp features

[fiery sinew]

ill check

it isn't on URP

[prisma trellis]

Try in another project made with 6.0

[fiery sinew]

alright

[fiery sinew]

@prisma trellissoo

6.0 half works

the grid and placing works but when i deselect it and try to select it again it doesnt really work anymore

can u help me redo the thing, maybe i did something wrong @prisma trellis

YOOO I MADE IT WORK

thanks for letting me know to 6.0

this really helped alot

[prisma trellis]

editor problems are really tough to figure out when everything's new and confusing
That's why I pretty quickly do tests in other versions iif things aren't workinig right just to make sure I'm not scouring for an user error that's not there

[fiery sinew]

hey bro im looking for an opinion, should i make the grass outline like connected if its next to other grass if you know what i mean

[prisma trellis]

If you wish
Rule tile of tilemap extras can do that if you want to spend the effort to make sprites for each tile connection and then set up the rule tile

[fiery sinew]

as you can see the tiles dont overlap eachother exactly how can i make them overlap in a easy way?

[prisma trellis]

There's buttons to rotate and flip tiles in the tile palette
But it doesn't really make sense to rotate isometric tiles

Flipping them sideways works to an extent, but beyond that you need new sprites for each "rotation"

[prisma trellis]

They do overlap a bit, I'm not sure what kind of overlap you are referring to

[fiery sinew]

th tiles corners

its kinda weird

[prisma trellis]

The weirdness I see is because they overlap a distance less than a sprite pixel's width exactly

Which may be a result of you changing either PPU or tile's size between the last two images

[fiery sinew]

yeah

[fiery sinew]

i dont rly understand this part

[prisma trellis]

Can you show the last screenshot again but with grid visible?

[fiery sinew]

oh yeah how do i turn these weird boxes off

i accidentely turned it on when i pressed a few keys now its starting to get annoying

[prisma trellis]

the rightmost sphere

Or the solid one

[fiery sinew]

alright

yup

thanks

and about the overlapping?

[prisma trellis]

You did something that changed the size of the sprite relative to grid: ⠀ ⠀

First the sprite fits inside the cell, then it spills over

[fiery sinew]

i can fix this my making them smaller?

[prisma trellis]

Which typically happens by altering the PPU value of the texture, or the scale of the tiles, or the size of the grid

Do you remember doing any of those in the last couple of hours?

[fiery sinew]

i mean

the ppu is like 8

and the pixels for the texture is about 32 x 32

i didn't think it would matter much because its WAYYY smaller when i put it to 32

[prisma trellis]

Do you remember which relevant variables you've changed around?

PPU is "pixels per unit" so how many pixels of the sprite take up one unit
A grid cell by default has the width of one unit, but if you changed that variable it would not be so

Keeping it consistent makes it much easier for you
If your tile sprite is 32 pixels wide, you know 32 is the right PPU for a grid with 1 unit width cells

So for example you don't want to set the PPU wrong first, then scale the grid to compensate

[fiery sinew]

just the pp

the ppu*

[fiery sinew]

this confuses me

like alot

[prisma trellis]

If your tile sprites really are 32 real pixels in width, that should be your PPU

[fiery sinew]

how dom i fix it being really small on the grid?

[prisma trellis]

If the tiles are still too big, that would point to grid size being wrong

Or tilemap's tile scale being wrong, if you have the option to change that

[prisma trellis]

Well, what is your grid size currently

[fiery sinew]

i did make the tiles bigger than the default tile size

3, 1.5, 1

cell size

here are the properties

[prisma trellis]

If we presume sprites' true PPU is 32, the error is right here

Should be 1, 0.5, 1

[fiery sinew]

then the tiles are small . . .

i want the tiles to be bigger personaly

[prisma trellis]

It's a starting point
With PPU 32 and cell size 1, 0.5 what does it look like

Unless there's a third wrong scale at some point, then the grid should exactly conform each tile and vice versa

[prisma trellis]

Like it did here

[fiery sinew]

like ALOT of tiles

in need it to have less tiles in the field of view

[prisma trellis]

Is the PPU really 32 in this picture

[fiery sinew]

i mssed around with the settings

[fiery sinew]

nope

[prisma trellis]

Like I said it should be

[fiery sinew]

this looks good, i can try to make some changes and test it

[prisma trellis]

Don't "mess around", set the variables to the exact values they should be first

[fiery sinew]

alr

is there a way to change the ppu In the pallete?

[prisma trellis]

No, it's a texture import setting

[fiery sinew]

alr

so i gotta make a new palette?

[prisma trellis]

I suppose so if the palette you have has the wrong grid scale

Or rather may be able to change it directly from the palette asset

[fiery sinew]

looks like this

still weird

[fiery sinew]

i amde a new palette with the 1, 1.5 gird scal

fixed it

@prisma trellis could u help me with this?

[prisma trellis]

Still not quite right

[fiery sinew]

whats glitched?

[prisma trellis]

Tiles are overlapping with sub-pixel offsets, like before

Though since it's the palette it doesn't really matter if it looks exact or not
But once your scene has the correct settings you can copy them over to the palette

Which doesn't have right settings currently either

You should tweak cell gap only after your tile and grid scales are correct

Which they're not because the tiles are much bigger than your grid cells

I'm still waiting to see 32 PPU, 1, 0.5, 1 grid no gap in scene view

[fiery sinew]

its gonna be like way smaller then

wich i dont wan ther eto be 500 tiles on the screen

[prisma trellis]

What is going to be smaller?

If changing a variable to the right value makes the result worse, that means there are other different variables that also need to be corrected

Not that the change was wrong and you need to revert it immediately

[fiery sinew]

the cels

isn't there a way to fix it with this cell size

[fiery sinew]

true but

[prisma trellis]

Hmm maybe you mean then your cells are smaller relative to the camera's view

Because that's also a factor
Camera size determines how many tiles can be seen relative to screen space, so also how big they appear

But importantly changing camera size is much simpler change than changing PPU and grid size and tilemap scale and what else

[fiery sinew]

wait but what will changing the thing to 1, 0.5 and ppu to 32?

do

[prisma trellis]

It tells us if something else than those two variables is affecting the relative size of your cells and tiles

Which is important troubleshooting information

And it establishes a standard in your scene that you can rely on

You won't have to guess or figure out how big the distance between tiles is when you're building the level or writing scripts

PPU is a value that should be standard across all your assets so their pixel sizes are always the same relative to each other, which helps tremendously when authoring more assets