VSCode + Unity

[ornate thicket]

Let's use a thread, I think this could be a long one

[barren edge]

If you're going to tell me to use VS or Rider

I understand why

but it's not an option for me

[ornate thicket]

No I love VSCode

[barren edge]

okay great

[ornate thicket]

I am thinking of independently picking up where deitry left off

But that hasn't happened yet

[barren edge]

Would love it if you did!

May I ask what the package on the Unity side of things provides?

Compared to the package on the VSCode side

[ornate thicket]

Anyway the Unity package for VSCode sets up hooks with VSCode for Intellisense etc. Generates the sln files. It generally doesn't do very much than the Visual Studio or Rider packages just has some customizations for VSCode

If it's deprecated for you you must be using 2023 alpha?

[barren edge]

yes, I am

[ornate thicket]

Nice 😎

[barren edge]

decided to give it a go, my experience with alpha and beta builds have been pretty stable with unity so far, so hoping for the best

[ornate thicket]

Yeah it's a bit annoying but believe it or not the stuff the scripting team will be doing will make it easier to use VSCode (even though they dropped support for it)

[ornate thicket]

We're doing our best

Thanks!

[barren edge]

Great to hear. Should I keep the package installed, or remove it? Has it been deprecated from a "this is just not maintained anymore" perspective, or a "this shouldn't be used anymore" perspective?

[ornate thicket]

The first. It still works quite well.

I wish I had time to maintain all these myself 😂

[barren edge]

Is it still visible in the package manger if uninstalled, or are deprecated packages no longer viewable?

[ornate thicket]

Ah I don't know that

you can always install it by its name though

Top left > install by name

I doubt they would delete it off the registry completely

[barren edge]

Okay, great. Hoping to see vscode become more usable in future, seeing the packages for it get deprecated has been a little disheartening to see. For linux users, it was looking like you'd have to pay for rider if you wanted to use unity.

Good to see people within Unity itself still keeping it going!

[ornate thicket]

As long as I'm there VSCode won't be completely dead. There are still a lot of people using it internally it's just that the team that owns it is focusing on a complete .NET modernization so they can't also support the package

I honestly think that VSCode is the best code editor out there. It's incredibly powerful and it's a shame we don't support it as a first-class citizen

There's just an overwhelming number of people using Windows for development so Visual Studio and Rider are just the default fallbacks (obvs does not apply to other platforms)

[barren edge]

Couldn't agree more. Seems like a lot of people are actually being pulled in the helix/neovim direction these days, but every time I've tried to use them, whatever the speedup was from having such fast startup times and powerful keybindings was lost in the lack of features such as autosave and the like.

[bronze pilot]

Presumably this is the .NET update. I can totally understand why it remains deprecated in the meantime

[ornate thicket]

Yes exactly

[bronze pilot]

(I am a Rider stan though 😄 can't use anything else without crying)

[ornate thicket]

It's the only one I haven't tried yet, I'm too into the VSCode weeds to change now

[bronze pilot]

You really should, can't you get it 'for free' at Unity?

[ornate thicket]

Oh sure, but that's not a transferrable skill- besides having a single VSCode (GitHub) account for work and home is really good

[barren edge]

I used rider for a hell of a long time

but my current laptop is absolutely horrific

and it couldn't run unity and rider at the same time

literally just couldn't handle it

Moved to VSCode, since I was using it for rust and cpp anyways

[bronze pilot]

Might be better now 2022.3 is out. But I understand, it can be a hog at times

[barren edge]

and haven't looked back

[ornate thicket]

2022.3 is out ?? must have missed a couple of months at work

[barren edge]

I think VSCode has one of the cleanest UIs, if not the cleanest UI, of any IDE

which is an opinion that has got me into many fights over the years lmao

[bronze pilot]

Rider 2022.3 if that's unclear

[ornate thicket]

Ah!

[bronze pilot]

Rider has a new UI that I'm using rn

[ornate thicket]

that's always really neat. how's the debugger?

[barren edge]

btw giorgos is there any way to make VSCode not think that Start(), Awake(), Update(), etc. are unused functions?

[bronze pilot]

As good as any other one. I've not compared debuggers to really know the difference. It's resharper + everything else that keeps me

[barren edge]

can I see a screenshot?

assuming you've got nothing particularly sensitive open

[ornate thicket]

Not that I know of unfortunately

[barren edge]

does omnisharp not have any comments or tags that it listens to to make it not flag it

I know a lot of similar things allow you to do //ignore Warning once or something similar

[barren edge]

o shit that's actually quite nice

might give it a try, especially on my desktop

[ornate thicket]

I was thinking more of global settings for it- adding to every monobehaviour script seems like a pain

Still don't know though 😄 most of my day is in the C++ / C# Editor code land so I haven't had to think about it too much

[barren edge]

this is my current vscode setup. will have to see the rider one with a theme to properly judge!

glad to see that jetbrains have been doing so well recently

fleet looks very promising

[bronze pilot]

I tried Fleet and it seemed really underbaked. It'll probably get better really fast though, I really liked the concept

[barren edge]

Yeah I agree, but the potential is definitely there

I gave it a go, was quite good for rust.

The lack of extensions ATM is a killer tho

[ornate thicket]

"Free to use during public preview" oof

It looks pretty cool, but without the extensions / active community of VSCode it's hard to switch to it

[barren edge]

yeah exactly

[ornate thicket]

What I love about VSCode is I can write my own extensions for it and use whatever combination of tools I want

[barren edge]

the sheer customisability of it is unreal

if a programming language exists, you can use it in vscode

[bronze pilot]

what I hate about VS Code is that it's the most unconfigured and difficult to configure IDE around here and I've spent probably days of my life trying to get people to configure it or switch 😛

[barren edge]

it's not that bad, I think it's more that it doesnt do things like install LSPs or add things to path for you

[ornate thicket]

I could probably write a language, compiler, and debugger and they would work

[bronze pilot]

Hopefully when it all comes around in the future it won't be a huge pain in the ass

[ornate thicket]

yeah that's unity's fault :(((

But you can make it work

[barren edge]

also on an unrelated note I wish more windows people used chocolatey

genuinely one of the best thing's I've ever used

the amount of time i've spent fucking about in path

and chocolatey just does it for you

like getting omnisharp was choco install omnisharp

and then it was done

and vscode just allowed it

[bronze pilot]

How to configure rider: it will tell you to set Unity's external tools preferences, and then it works
How to configure VS Code:

• Download and install .NET SDK.
• If you're on windows, logout and back in.
• Install the C# extension
• Add "omnisharp.useModernNet": false to the settings editor
• Download and install .NET Framework 4.7.1 Developer Pack
• Add VSC to Unity's external tools preferences.
• Hope

getting beginners to do all that and validate it is impossible

[ornate thicket]

ok yeah

[barren edge]

the useModernNet thing is a pain, took me ages to get that one done

[bronze pilot]

and now you also have to install the VS Code Editor package 😄

[barren edge]

(which is now deprecated)

[bronze pilot]

oh and there's a deprecated debugger package too that should probably be installed... why does this list keep going

[barren edge]

I mean there's the fork of it that isn't deprecated

[ornate thicket]

It is also not supported by deitry anymore

I made a fork but I have yet to go through the code

[barren edge]

it's worked pretty well for me so far

even on the alpha build

[ornate thicket]

Yeah it's still working thankfully

[barren edge]

oh also can we pretty pretty please get a patcher for unity hub

rather than completely reinstalling every new editor build

[ornate thicket]

Not my area at all but big yes

[barren edge]

I don't get fibre. I want to be on the alpha build. Why when there's an update that it probably a few megabytes in size do I need to reinstall the entire editor

it makes me very annoyed lmao

[bronze pilot]

An... optional patcher

[ornate thicket]

oh yeah we would never make the users upgrade that would be the end

[bronze pilot]

I more mean that even installing patch versions can sometimes break things, so it's nice being able to roll back by just uninstalling the new one 😄

I just want to be able to get to the patch notes from the hub 😠