Explanation of my point yesterday

[lapis marsh]

What I'm saying is be mindful of what type of stuff you are learning.
A little search of youtube bad in discord will result in something like this. (all residents or moderator) So it is not just my opinion.
The pinned stuff is reviewed as far as I know. The information is valid and will help you learn and will give you a good foundation to work on. Youtube is not reviewed at all, and the wrong videos will give you a crap foundation to start your programming experience/career with. It will take you a ton of effort to unlearn all the bad things from bad videos. And you will not understand as a beginner why something is good or bad. You can of course still take the Youtube route, because maybe your a Visual Learner which is valid (I'm a Tactile Learner so I just use Youtube as inspiration), just make an informed decision on which route you want to take. If Youtube is the way you want to learn, then I would at least advise you to take the smaller videos that are fixing 1 problem, not a whole game. Hopefully way less shortcuts and bad habits in those. This is all my opinion and just suggestions, just my 2 cents.

[crisp quartz]

tldr?

[lapis marsh]

Youtube bad

[crisp quartz]

i'd say most of the tutorials on some systems/mechanics are teaching bad practice

and they are just showing "how to make it work"

but they aren't flexible at all

and aren't expandable

[lapis marsh]

Yeah, that's what my ramble is about 😛

[crisp quartz]

okay

but is there any particualr issue?

or is it just a discussion?

[lapis marsh]

It is a reaction on the guy from yesterday

[crisp quartz]

ah, okay

[lapis marsh]

An answer for this

Its at the top of this explanation

[crisp quartz]

i'd say he should entirely drop the tutorials

[mellow drum]

damn my man created a hole topic just for me im flattered

thanks you so much

i just read through everything, thank you for wasting your time explaining to a rock head why youtube is bad, i already looked into the basics and for now its a bit hard to understand and learn everything but in time i ll get it for sure

[lapis marsh]

Well, I'm normally not that black and white. Some people only learn visually, so Youtube might be a better way to learn for them. Even if it has bad sides.

[crisp quartz]

Sure i mean, there are people that can't even google basic stuff

and they are asking about things like "what is a bool" in this channel

sorry im writing in 3 channels

[lapis marsh]

No problem, I hope it gives you some insight on why I said what I said, and you learned a thing or 2.

[mellow drum]

i know things like what is a boolean, but what im trying to learn is what to use and when

lets say i want to print something in the console, i know i need to use Debug.Log("message");

[crisp quartz]

im not talking about you

[mellow drum]

but if i want to do something else like idk cutting a piece of wood i dont know how to

[crisp quartz]

i mean that most of the questions in code-begginer channel can be googled in 1 min

[mellow drum]

i hope so

[lapis marsh]

And to be honest, it takes me minutes to write this, but maybe saves a lot of time over your life. Unlearning bad practices is a pain... I know from experience.

Anywho, back to work 🙂

[mellow drum]

thank you once again kind sir

[lapis marsh]

[mellow drum]

sorry for wasting your time 🐥 have a nice day 🙂 good luck on work

[full lintel]

This opinion is kinda a double edged sword, because the best possible way to learn, is to learn what doesn't work first. More people learn what to do not by being told the correct answer, but by doing the wrong thing, learning it's wrong, and having an apiphony moment when they learn the correct answer. Things learned in this manner can even stick till a person is well into the later stages of Alzheimers.

[crisp quartz]

noone's time is wasted

[full lintel]

time is most important, this is true

[mellow drum]

hope its not by answering all my noobie questions

[crisp quartz]

it's what the channel was created for, wasn't it?

dont be scared to ask

but don't ask questions you can google in 10 seconds

google first, then ask

[lapis marsh]

We do this for a hobby, so what Xaxup said.

[crisp quartz]

i usually help people here when i have to take a break from my job because of some nasty bug

[mellow drum]

got it 👍

[lapis marsh]

I agree, nothing is black and white, everything has up- and downsides. I agree with you that failing is one of the best ways to learn, I just think it's better to fail on a good coding foundation. Fail on how to make an inventory, don't fail on how to make a class. Youtube will teach you how to fail on both, sometimes.

[full lintel]

Especially if you go to Codemonkey.

"Alright folks we're just going to make a new enumerator.array"

Me, types enumerator.array.. 100 error codes.

5 minutes later
"Oh and don't forget to get codemonkey essentials for your project"
Me: BREAKS KEYBOARD!