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[winter obsidian]

that is not a problem

oh okk thanks mate

[chilly nymph]

I didn't think it was that bad.

Don't be stupid with fonts. If you only need a single size and a single character set, configure it. If you can use Unity's UGUI instead of TextMesh Pro

I would have thought the GPU instancing of TMP would be better?

Fuk, I guess I'll swap them out.

Question since it sounds like you know webgl. I'm currently spinning up Tasks in order to wait for an character animation to finish. BUT it seems there's some issues when the browser enteres into a background process, it skips frames and the conditional to check when an anim is done is broken.

Would coroutines solve this?

[torn basalt]

Does anyone here have that one concept that they can't seem to memorize no matter how many times they have to implement it?

[chilly nymph]

I just join the channel.

This is native C# tasks.

[jolly token]

I just look into my previous implementation 😂

[torn basalt]

It feels so dirty tho lol

[jolly token]

It does evolve every time I implement lol

[chilly nymph]

  internal virtual async Task Run(int round, CancellationTokenSource cancellationTokenSource, bool lastStep = false)
    {
        if (animator.GetCurrentAnimatorClipInfo(0)[0].clip.name == currentHit)
        {
            await IsAnimFinished(currentHit, cancellationTokenSource);
        }

...

    internal async Task IsAnimFinished(string name, CancellationTokenSource? cancellationTokenSource = null)
    {
        var isFinished = false;
        while (!isFinished)
        {
            if (cancellationTokenSource != null && cancellationTokenSource.IsCancellationRequested)
            {
                cancellationTokenSource.Token.ThrowIfCancellationRequested();
                return;
            }
            if (animator.GetCurrentAnimatorClipInfo(0)[0].clip.name == name && !animator.IsInTransition(0) && animator.GetCurrentAnimatorStateInfo(0).normalizedTime >= 0.99f)
            {
                isFinished = true;
            }
            await Task.Yield();
        }
        return;
    }

[torn basalt]

I have been nursing an audio framework for some time now. It started out as one of my "hard to remembers". Now its a full thing

[chilly nymph]

It works, it just breaks on background process.

Sometimes two anims will play when it should check if the isAnimFinished.

Should I refactor to coroutines you think?

How so?

check if current clip is current, is it in transition, and is it done.

I literally just implemented that.

😄

After reading your forum.

It was 30 before.

What's the solution?

Just fire off a delegate?

Or listener?

In terms of the current code, you think I can do anything in terms of checking the normalized time?

Yeah, I assumed when a animation was completed it would stay at +1 for a normalized scale.

normalizedTime >= 0.99

GetCurrentAnimatorStateInfo\

Does the Animation lib contain a function to call when a fired animation is completed?

i think the best thing would be to check if unitask already has this implemented I don't really know what you mean by this.

https://github.com/Cysharp/UniTask ?

Okay so implement that and what's the logic that handles the animation end?

"when all"?

States should have states, start, playing, end that's literally the point of states. 😄 unity hasn't made the best choices on how to consume that.

https://forum.unity.com/threads/how-to-wait-for-an-animation-to-finish.626842/

You have several options to achieve this.

1) Add an Animation Event to your last key frame.
See https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/animeditor-AnimationEvents.html

2) In Update you can continuously check if the animation has completed.
See AnimatorStateInfo

3) Start a coroutine that yields and waits for the animation to complete.

4) Use StateMachineBehaviour

And I'm doing #2

kk, thanks for your help!

Yeah, wish I knew this was an issue with browsers before I did it.

Browsers will drop frames more than desktop.

[fringe apex]

anyone know procedural world generation

[chilly nymph]

Pretty vague.

[fringe apex]

yes i would like to know how to use it with sum like the backrooms

[chilly nymph]

https://catlikecoding.com/unity/tutorials/maze/

[fringe apex]

thank u

[jolly token]

Since decimal is integer representation, Is decimal calculation deterministic across platform?

[novel plinth]

my bet would be it's not guaranteed, due to Mono, but I may be straight up wrong here

well, at least it used to, appearently it's been fixed since https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39345100/are-net-decimal-type-computations-deterministic

[jolly token]

Also not sure about IL2CPP 🤔

Well but if it is basically integer calculation then it shouldn't be different, should it?
I failed to find any doc that says if it's deterministic or not.

[novel plinth]

my argument didn't put il2cpp into consideration, so yeah, just ignore that.. lately I've stayed away from aot entirely for my pet projects

[jolly token]

I wish I could too 😇

[obtuse arch]

Hello,
This is a basic setup for char controller where lock on movement is 8 way and non locked on movement is forward run with 3 clips blended.
My question is setting animator.Play("blendTreeName") every frame incur a performance penalty or not ?
Call same method twice in Update() does cause jitter which proves that state is resetted.
But what about calling it every frame i.e. Each time Update is called ? Since animation(blendTree) doesnt restart it means animator would be maintaining it.
So not calling it every frame is efficient or is same as calling the Play every frame ?

Also,
This is a question about how animator will behave and not about how to handle states.Im just asking to know what happens in this specific scenario.

Thanks.

[tribal pivot]

What does the profiler show you?

[obtuse arch]

I havent profiled tbh, So thats a mystery till I get my hands dirty.

[untold moth]

Calling it every frame should cause the animation to restart every frame. It shouldn't cause performance issues.

[obtuse arch]

Well thats the twist, it doesnt restart. It continues to animate

Incase i have called Animation.Play(“blendtreeState”) twice in an Update() it will restart

But if it is written only once, The animation doesnt restart on the next frame (next update cycle call)
Which is what intrigues me.

[untold moth]

Might want to add some debugs in your code to see if it even gets called in this case. Animator.Play bypasses any possible transitions setup you have, so it should just play.

[obtuse arch]

I have tested it, thats y i was confused

[light falcon]

Is there a way to generate image sprites of prefabs using a camera?
I have to generate a whole lot of item image sprites and want to do so in a custom environment with lighting and a background.

[stuck onyx]

runtime? or ...?

[light falcon]

editor, on demand

i have to avoid manually taking screenshots of every single item

[stuck onyx]

so you want to automatize it somehow?

[light falcon]

exactly.

would be great

[stuck onyx]

those objects are 3d and you want to get sprites out of them

[light falcon]

yep. But in a custom environment with lighting. I don't want to take the prefab preview image that unity provides

[plucky laurel]

yes you have all the apis to achieve that

[stuck onyx]

i use something for that let me check

https://just4fun.mobi/generate-icons-for-prefabs/

[plucky laurel]

make a scene, place a camera in it, call EditorSceneManager apis to load scenes, call Render on the camera, save it with texture.EncodeToPNG

[stuck onyx]

here you have it all done already, what i did is to take this and modify it according my preferences

[plucky laurel]

baking the front layer into the texture itself is a bad idea

[light falcon]

awesome, will take a look! thx

[plucky laurel]

just saying

[stuck onyx]

why?

curious

[plucky laurel]

you lose all flexibility that you will need later

and will have to rebake for every occurence of that image in the ui

different ui elements display same image, all may have different frames, ui designer can change the frames etc

it asks for problems

[stuck onyx]

ugh sorry im not familiar with that kinda stuff

[light falcon]

then leave front layer empty

[stuck onyx]

i have a question, im having problems with people in arabic countries with their calendar

something about converting utc to datetime fails

now... if i do this on the start of my game....

 CultureInfo.CurrentCulture = new CultureInfo("es-ES");
        CultureInfo.CurrentUICulture = new CultureInfo("es-ES");

am I forcing the culture to be es? es = Spain

[plucky laurel]

DateTime dt = DateTime.Parse(date, cultureinfo);

you have to pass that culture to the parse method for it to do anything

i think, for datetime

[stuck onyx]

wouldnt be easier to ignore the user's culture and use always our calendar?

(internally)

[plucky laurel]

no idea, not familiar with this issue

[stuck onyx]

but the example you sent i cannot use because first i need to create a datetime based on a unixTime

so... hmmm

okay i need to research more, ill see this datetimeparse thing

[maiden turtle]

need more context. a prefab can mean a thousand different things

an example maybe

or some code that repeated in your tests

I haven't played halo

and why is testing single scripts not enough? what do you expect to test in that test exactly?

I still don't understand what you expect to find. If you want to test interactions between components, test those separately. If you want to test if a prefab is configured correctly, check if the required components are in place

also, prefab variants are your friend if you forget to include certain components

you can make a prefab base with all required components, then make variants for your various monsters

if you change the base prefab, they'd all get the change

I feel like you just need normal integration tests here. Like a scene with a bunch of characters, a scenario that they should follow, and approximate results. Haven't done stuff like this, so can't say how hard it'd be to nail down the expected results reliably. It depends deeply on the particular problem

imo probably not worth the effort

[unborn vortex]

No advanced coding shenanigans, but advanced logic (to me it is at least haha):

New issue with that mf walljump feat acceleration implementation: my character always make the air-deceleration phase in the wrong direction after a walljump, no matter if I try to move to the opposite direction, or if I input nothing, or if I try to come back in the wall (which works well since I'm being pushed this way)

I'm pretty sure there's an easy logic modification that could fix that, I tried a lot of things between the MovementInput() and WallJump() methods, I'm pretty sure it's somewhere in between those methods, but nothing worked, if you have any idea, feel free!
https://paste.ofcode.org/uUjc6aFynTr9BLKyymJEmE

Oh I already use logs etc, I'm pretty much aware of what's happening, and when it's happening, I just can't figure out what logical change would fix this, that's above my logical skills, I went too deep haha but now I gotta end it

Not following a tutorial! (I wish haha)

One thing I just thought of: it shouldn't consider a direction change if we're going in the same direction the walljump propels us, because it's not a direction change, but my logic considers it is, so it triggers a deceleration phase

Now I gotta figure out how to not trigger changedDirection only in that situation haha, gonna be fun

Nop never, but I'll rework the entire shit with coroutines because for now it's a mess

But I want things to work properly before reworking it, cause if I rework something not working well, I won't know if I made a mistake during the rework or if it's just a mistake that was there before

[unborn vortex]

So, no idea to fix that logical issue?

[obtuse arch]

Are you pressing jump quickly post jumping from wall ? and at that moment the jump cancels the second jump motion ? Is this the case ?

[unborn vortex]

Nop only 1 jump input, and after the walljumping phase (when "wallJumping" is back to false), the deceleration phase starts, towards the wall (and always towards the wall)

|
What I would like to happen:

• if I try to move in the same direction the walljump sent me
  ----> skip the deceleration phase and keep maxSpeed toward that direction

• if I input nothing
  ----> deceleration phase while falling

• if I try to move back toward the wall
  ----> deceleration phase in the direction the walljump sent me, then acceleration phase toward the wall

I'm aiming at the same behavior they have in Celeste (and basically the same behavior I have when in the air after a jump or falling off a platform, weird things only happen when walljumping)

[humble leaf]

@lost urchin Don't crosspost.

[lost urchin]

Apologies. I read the read me after posting.

I thought it might have been beyond the code beginner channel knowledge so I tried going to general.

@humble leaf if nobody is helpful in another chat, when is it appropriate to post in one of these chats?

[humble leaf]

You can post again sure, after a bit though. You can't jump around while your previous questions are still visible in other channels.

[lost urchin]

Would someone be able to assist me with building an assetBundle?

I followed the unity website's workflow but I keep getting namespace errors for classes that aren't referenced, in the assetBuilder script, in the Editor folder.

The project runs with zero issues outside of building an assetBundle so I do not believe there are any build errors in the code.

[thin mesa]

likely not an advanced issue. and you still haven't provided relevant details. are we supposed to just guess what the error(s) is? or what the relevant code is?

[lost urchin]

The namespace errors are for scriptable object classes that can't be found. Which they're not being referenced in the asset bundle.

Also I asked what other information you needed in the other chat and you didn't respond. So are you trying to actually help or just follow me around?

[thin mesa]

i did respond actually. i informed you that you should look at #854851968446365696 to see what you should provide when asking for help. but hey, if you just want to post vague questions and wonder why nobody is actually helping you, then you do you man. 🤷‍♂️

[lost urchin]

I asked after that what other information I could provide for you.

You essentially just said "ask better questions" and then disappeared.

I hope this works.

using UnityEditor;
using System.IO;

public class AssetBundleCreator
{
    [MenuItem("Assets/Build AssetBundles")]
    static void BuildAllAssetBundles()
    {
        string assetBundleDirectory = "Assets/BundledAssets";
        if (!Directory.Exists(assetBundleDirectory))
        {
            Directory.CreateDirectory(assetBundleDirectory);
        }
        BuildPipeline.BuildAssetBundles(assetBundleDirectory, BuildAssetBundleOptions.None, EditorUserBuildSettings.activeBuildTarget);
    }
}```

Here's the code for the assetBundle script.

[obtuse arch]

Why not use assetBundle browser ? unless you want to explicitly do it via code, using bundleBrowser them it makes workflow easier.
Although I suggest using CompatibilityBuildPipeline instead of BuildPipeline since its deprecated and has been replaced with ScriptableBuildPipeline instead

[lost urchin]

I tried googling assetBundle browser but it looked like it was deprecated?

Maybe I didn't look hard enough

[obtuse arch]

Code you pasted above is deprecated too, THats y I suggested using CompatibilityBuildPipeline

[obtuse arch]

Ig this is an AssemblyDefinitionReference Issue. are there Any asmdef File ? IfSo Are they properly referenced ?

Also why not use Addressables ?

[lost urchin]

Why the heck is unity showing deprecated code on their wiki. xD

Where do we find the proper workflow for using assetBundles then?

I was currently trying to see what the differences were between Addressables and AssetBundles. For referencing sprites at runtime would Addressables be the proper thing to use?

[jolly token]

Addressable Assets's backend is AssetBundle

[lost urchin]

I do not believe there are any asmdef files being used. I'm actually not entirely sure what that is.

[jolly token]

Addressable is just organized way of packing/loading asset bundles

[obtuse arch]

I would suggest using Addressables as it provides proper GUI and other api support. Addressables are essentialy assetBundles. They are just wrapping API over AssetBundles

Then again I think you are looking at wrong direction, Can you elaborate on ref sprites at runtime ?

[lost urchin]

So it sounds like Addressables are the way to go as far as referencing sprites/etc at runtime?

So I can use my sprites at runtime no issues, save them via json but obviously you can't load them, so I need to reference the location of the sprite for when loading them.

[obtuse arch]

Why not Resources.Load ?

Are sprites generated At Runtime ?

I think not but just asking for clarity

[obtuse arch]

Are Sprites on server ? or in the build ?

deployed with build *

[lost urchin]

No they're preset via scriptable objects currently. Saving them works but you can't load them since it's loading a reference to the sprite I believe.

The sprites are deployed with the build, which makes me lean towards addressables being the proper usage here?

It sounded like assetBundles were really more useful when hosted on a server

[obtuse arch]

What exactly you mean by Saving them ?

[obtuse arch]

At first I thought you were downloading from web and saving the buffer on disk, But I think you mean it in some other way since sprites are already referenced to scriptable and are deployed with build

[lost urchin]

So the code creates an "Item" that has a sprite. I currently save the item, it's stats, it's image, etc in a json file. However when loading the item this doesn't work after a while due to serialization shenanigans.

I believe I need to instead save a reference to the sprite, since you cant save the sprite itself.

[obtuse arch]

Oh I see, Ig you were thrown at wrong track my friend

[lost urchin]

Then at runtime when loading I can find the reference and then go grab the sprite from the addressable / asset bundle

Part of my problem is I'm also trying to figure out what the best practice for this is.

It seemed like using assetBundles was the right way to go but that might have been wrong

[obtuse arch]

Lemme clear few things.
Addressable/Assetbundles and Resources are way to go when you want to manually handle Memory Management and/or deploy assets from web (not resources), live ops basically

[lost urchin]

Can you clarify what you mean by deploying assets from the web?

Nothing is being hosted ideally

[obtuse arch]

Have you played Asphalt or any such mobile game ?

[lost urchin]

Yeah, that's the racing game right? I've played a bunch of mobile games.

[obtuse arch]

At first you have to download some 200mb/900 mb of game but rest of the content is downloaded as you progress further

you simply click download the game takes care of rest of it ?

[lost urchin]

Is this what you would be seeing when using assetBundles?

[obtuse arch]

For That Addressables are used (Im gonna refer to them as Addressable now for sake of simplicity as assetBundle is dep)

[obtuse arch]

Yes exactly, This is the usecase for addressables. The LiveOps

you offer content in game and not as a build (apk) update

For persisting sprite its a simple solution and I can guide you in DM(if okay) since its a bit simple and we would be hogging the chat

[lost urchin]

So if I wanted all the sprites to be in the build and be able to access them at runtime what would be the best way to do that then?

Yeah that's fine with me!

Thank you!

[obtuse arch]

No problemo

[obtuse arch]

Incase decelaration is dependent on directionChange, The states are coupled. Why not tie decelaration to a fixed vertical point ?

[unborn vortex]

What do you mean a fixed vertical point?

[obtuse arch]

Um lets jay jump starts at 0,0,0 and height is 5 the vertical point vector would be 0,5,0 and the character would move towards that point.

[unborn vortex]

I have no idea how to implement this in my code to be honest haha, and it sounds like a mathematical nightmare with the messy logic I have

Tbh I'm pretty sure there's something easy to change, just one thing in the states or something like that, in the logic

But after trying various things that almost worked, there's always one thing wrong, I can't find the right line to change

[obtuse arch]

Unless the code is clean this is bound to be an issue. Anyways best of luck, Since im unable to make out much from it .

[wooden wind]

Hey, Does anyone know how to store a byte array ( from texture) into a file? It is for offline access to the textures of the google place api photos that I stored in an new array.

[upbeat path]

System.File.WriteAllBytes

[wooden wind]

I tried that i already and my file was empty then but is it also possible with more images I want more then one image stored in my file

[upbeat path]

probably your byte[] was empty invalid if the file was empty.
Storing more than one image in a single file is a lot more complex

[wooden wind]

Do you know how i can store more images in a file or is it better to split them in one file each image?

[hot gale]

What's the URP equivalent of "OnPreCull" ?

[unborn vortex]

I don't want to use an asset, I want to learn making it myself, but I'll try to find that youtuber, thanks 🙂

[stuck onyx]

I didnt know this, very interesting

[maiden turtle]

either separate files, or I'd just zip them if you need to send them in one go

[lost urchin]

Thanks for the reply @undone coral 🙂

[obtuse arch]

It most definately works.
Secondly,
This is something I wouldnt do as scaling up there will be tons of paramaeters and tree will grow in terms of complexity as there will be state transitions and to control those there will be parameters which again would have to be controlled by script by some sort of state mechanism implementation (basically animator hell scenario).
In my case as game is heavily dependent of physics controlled animations

Im handling them differently altogether but then again this is outta scope of my question as i have stated earlier.

Thanks for info though, much appreciated:)

imo it would be better the db would be scriptable, that way each instance could provide categorization by default, Or all sprites can be hogged into one no problem. And that would also discard the scene dependency or extra ddol management incase there is multiscene setup.

[eager plume]

Hey guys, I'm trying to manually implement some functions that the Unity API has, rn I'm working on converting the mouse position from screen space into world space coordinates, my question is, is there a way to explicitly calculate the view matrix of the main camera?

This is my current idea, but I have no clue if this is correct or not (I'm assuming it's not because the resulting position is crooked)

[jolly token]

Is it study purpose?

[obtuse arch]

You will need to take Screen details (usually found in Screen class) into account , As different resolutions will mess up ur algo.
Apart from that cant suggest much.

[jolly token]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Camera-worldToCameraMatrix.html
It says Z axis is flipped

[eager plume]

I'm working on the development of a game engine that is roughly based in Unity, and I like Unity's API haha

[eager plume]

Got that as a separate property

And this would be my plan for actually making the transformations

Ignore the comments, I was trying some stuff prior

[eager plume]

Oh, cool, I'll take a look into this as well

[upper smelt]

Hello my friends. I'm trying to install Unity on Ubuntu 20.04 with terminal. Because I wanna build project via CLI. I've noticed this is more difficult since Unity Hub came to Linux. Do any of you do this? (CI/CD)

(I couldn't find another channel to send this message)

[jolly token]

Using pre installed docker image may be better for your mental health

[upper smelt]

game-ci seems very neat

[jolly token]

game-ci with github actions has been worked well for my project

[upper smelt]

Github actions are a good idea but I feel like it only makes sense for public repos. Because even if there is a cache, the build times are not short.

For private repos, there is a high probability that I will be stuck on the monthly minute limit. Unless using upper github plan

Thanks for help, i'll look game-ci

[hybrid lark]

@jolly token did you come up with any other ideas for my issues by chance?

I tried creating a new gameobject, set it as the parent of the meshrender transform, scaled it, then set it back to it's original parent

that didn't do anything

I need to find some sort of 3d transform guru

[jolly token]

Well I can't tell for sure since I don't have the source data nor model
it is hard to remote-coding through discord 😂

[hybrid lark]

that's fair

hmm, you would basically need the whole project then

[jolly token]

Yeah for this issue anyone you find to get help would be, I think

[hybrid lark]

Alright, I cleaned it up a bit, I had some resources outside of the project, you want me to send it to you?

[jolly token]

If you want, I'd check when I have some spare time

--
Question: If I add hidden component to a prefab itself on runtime, will prefab variants affected by it?
If so, would there be a way to prevent it?

Context: I'm trying to do PoC of caching inner component references as serialized field on prefab root, as when you initialize it they will be converted into reference to instance. So you only query components once for prefab, and don't have to query components for instances.

[tribal pivot]

I think you'd best just make a small testcase to see what happens with a (hidden, dont think that matters) component to a prefab.

I dont really understand your context

What do you mean query components for instances?

[jolly token]

You are right on making test case 🙂
For example, if your script needs to call GetComponentsInChildren on Awake, it will be called every time you Instantiate.
I want to cache the result of GetComponentsInChildren as SerializeField, so it only called once for a prefab, while it will still have reference to components when Instantiate.

[tribal pivot]

Oh yes, you should definitely not use getcomponentsinchildren, just serialize a reference to your component.

I'm not sure if you are aware, this is code-advanced, but when you instantiate that prefab, the serialized reference of the instance is updated. It does not point to the prefab, it points to the instance.

[jolly token]

That's the whole point. It convert to references of components in the instances.

It's for DI plugin, so it is gotta be somewhat generic. Serializing direct reference is not working here

[tribal pivot]

I dont think i understand, but i wish you the best of luck with it!

[jolly token]

Thank you 👍

[wooden wind]

Does anyone know how to do this in Unity? I searched a lot, tried a lot but don't know how? The planes you see are based on prefabs that spawns automatically when the api is called and these planes display images.

[chilly nymph]

Ii's just a carousel.

[wooden wind]

It the first time I made a imagecarousel and I have already displayed the planes front-faced but this specific orientation I dont know how to make it do you have any tips that can help me with this?

I cant use packages

[chilly nymph]

2 sided shader?

Or just 2 planes?

[wooden wind]

planes with textures of images

[maiden turtle]

it feels like a strange projection, you probably need to distort the meshes, or a custom shader

kinda looks a bit like spherical projection

I don't know if cameras support custom projection

I might be wrong

[wooden wind]

ty for the tip I wil try it

[maiden turtle]

but these don't look euclidean to me

[wooden wind]

It is a weird shape and front faced is easier to do these shapes have a lot of other directions

[maiden turtle]

sorry?

[wooden wind]

I mean that it is a challenge to get this shape 🙂

but ty for the help

[maiden turtle]

you're welcome

[proven phoenix]

has somebdoy here ever integrated the discord rich presence into a unity game?

im having a problem where when I set my activity, the game and the unity editor crash

[tribal pivot]

I have

[flat gull]

Guys, for a really complex platformer, do you guys think its better to make a class for playerphysics (for the main movement) and a state machine system (for other many abilities) and they will work together, or is it better to put everything in a state machine system ?

[flat gull]

Ah yes, locomotion will be a better word. So i guess it does make sense to make it that way

Anyway thanks for the Quora kind of answer

[compact ingot]

an architecture for character controllers that always makes sense is to split the physics bits (collisions, step smoothing, platform recognition) into a "motor" component, that is driven by a "controller" (implementing abilities like jump, walk, run etc), which gets its inputs set from an "input (player)" or "brain (ai)" component, control flows only in one direction from brain -> controller -> motor

you would then potentially implement an FSM inside that controller to handle various states the controller can be in and split that controller into multiple components when it gets complicated

[quartz stratus]

Seconding @undone coral 's suggestion. I would just position/rotate these prefab instances statically, then just store the position/rotation Vectors on some class or on SOs. Then just drop DOTween into the project and ship it lol. Totally understand the desire to want to do this dynamically, but sometimes it's nice to remember that it's not strictly necessary. The end user won't know if you calculated these positions/rotations from scratch or used static values.

And of course, you could use the static version as a prototype/tool to help discover how to generate this carousel in a more clever fashion.

[jolly token]

This I’m pretty sure you can
I’ve learn that by mistake 😌

Though Awake would not likely to be called

Yes, but I’d still need to prevent it if loading order matters. For example: Loading from AssetBundles. I’m just thinking comparing cached instance id and invalidate cache if different

Also it is likely to have little different behaviour when running from Editor vs build. So I gotta make some test case. I’ll let you know if interested 🙂

[flat gull]

Mainly 3d

[jolly token]

Yeah unless original prefab is in another asset bundle. Which would be asset bundle dependency and they can be loaded different timing

That is also convincing. 🤔 I’d test that out too

[silk sable]

Is there a way to cancel async functions the same way we do coroutines?

[compact ingot]

Better ways https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/standard/parallel-programming/task-cancellation

[silk sable]

But I saw somewhere it was for .NET 4 and on, and I thought unity wasn't there yet

[jolly token]

.NET 4 literally doesn’t exist.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.threading.cancellationtoken?view=net-6.0#remarks
You can see which version supports it.

recent Unity is .NET standard 2.1 compatible btw

[silk sable]

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet ?

wdym it doesnt exist

There are things way over it

[jolly token]

But they skipped .NET 4

[silk sable]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10134310/how-to-cancel-a-task-in-await

[jolly token]

Just like how windows 9 doesn't exist 🙂

[silk sable]

this is where I read it

[fresh salmon]

Probably meant Framework 4.x

[silk sable]

On the accepted answer

[jolly token]

That's .NET framework 4

[silk sable]

Well the dude used the wrong terminology

fuck me

[jolly token]

Their versioning is confusing to be fair lol

[cerulean sky]

hello !

i'm looking at the unity reference for Mesh and I see that, for instance, the vertices property has set & get overloaded with another function. this leaves me a bit clueless as to what calling the [] operator of vertices would do... like myMesh.vertices[0] = Vector3.up; does it simply get piped into the void, or does it modify something? edit: ah wait, does it do like a whole copy of the array and then modifies the copy? i feel like that's what's happening

I have a part of my code where I need to modify precise points of a mesh the fastest possible, and to avoid modifying my vertex array & then calling Set Vertices() for the whole array i thought i'd be smart and only set manually the Vertices that had changed (cause it's not so much, usually only a dozen or so on a 65336 long vertex array)

                if (isFastUpdate) {
                    for (int y = zGridMin; y < zGridMax; y++) {
                         for (int x = xGridMin; x < xGridMax; x++) {

                            int modifiedVertex = HardEdges ? (x + y * Width) * 4 : x + y * VerticesW;

                            mapMesh.vertices[modifiedVertex] = vertices[modifiedVertex];
                            mapMesh.uv[modifiedVertex] = uv[modifiedVertex];
                            mapMesh.uv2[modifiedVertex] = uv2[modifiedVertex];
                            mapMesh.uv3[modifiedVertex] = uv3[modifiedVertex];
                            mapMesh.uv4[modifiedVertex] = uv4[modifiedVertex];
                            mapMesh.normals[modifiedVertex] = verticesNormals[modifiedVertex];
                        }
                    }
                }

Except this does nothing as far as I can tell

What is the normal, fastest way to set the value of one precise vertex/normal/uv/etc in the array, by index ?

(ref: https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/UnityCsReference/blob/master/Runtime/Export/Graphics/Mesh.cs)

[chilly nymph]

You can store the vertex you modify (dirty) and then update it, you don't need to iterate through every index with a condition.

[cerulean sky]

sorry I'm not sure I understood what you meant

How do I modify and update only the specific vertex? 🙂

[chilly nymph]

With your own manager.

When you modify a vertex you store it's index[n] just add that to a stack, then when you update you just iterate through your stack.

It's basic IsDirty architecture. Does that work for you?

[cerulean sky]

I'm already doint that, now the issue is replicating the change to the mesh

Without setting all the vertices including the ones that have not changed 🙂

[jolly token]

You'd be able to do with this API
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Mesh.SetVertexBufferData.html

[cerulean sky]

ah, that's what I was looking for! Thanks a bunch !

I might come back with more questions 😁

[sly grove]

Piped to the void yes

Every time you call the property it creates a fresh copy

Just pull the copy out once, do all your modifications, then assign it back

[cerulean sky]

Yea that's the thing I'm trying to avoid, cause I'm only modifying ~100 vertices on a 65k long array

So i'll guess i'll switch to low level API then :>

[sly grove]

Catheis thing then yes

[tardy lance]

how can i switch the default layer with script?

[cursive dew]

anyone know how to make ready up thingy for multiplayer

[sly grove]

with RPCs

[cursive dew]

whats that

[sly grove]

and just have the server keep track of which players are ready

[sly grove]

You should go follow the tutorials for whatever networking framework you are working with. They will be covered

[cursive dew]

ok ill look

[tardy lance]

How can i change layer for Gameobject childs too?

[jolly token]

You need to do it by recursively looping transform’s children

[sly grove]

or be cute and use GetComponentInChildren<Transform>()

[tardy lance]

yes, but i need to to do that only for the gameobjects in list

[sly grove]

so?

Do it for only the ones in the list

in any case

doing all this stuff in Update is kind of horrible

[tardy lance]

ok, but how?

[sly grove]

with this

[chilly nymph]

Students should be handling that logic.

You also shouldn't be iterating and finding them.

[tardy lance]

right

[sly grove]

this is #💻┃code-beginner stuff btw

[chilly nymph]

Only a student should know it's targets not an upper manager.

[sly grove]

Or #archived-code-general

[chilly nymph]

Cancelation token.

 if (cancellationTokenSource.IsCancellationRequested)
                {
                    return default;
                }```

I should be putting all UI's that do heavy operations on separate canvases, correct?

[jolly token]

https://unity.com/how-to/unity-ui-optimization-tips
yes

[chilly nymph]

You'd think Unity would have done that by now.

[jolly token]

They never do things for you 😢

[gray pulsar]

how would they know which UI elements are going to change and which ones are not going to?

[chilly nymph]

Render on canvases helper? Not hard.

[urban sequoia]

They made the whole engine in the first place 🙃

[rapid latch]

I am trying to create an android plugin in Java that unity can read and execute its functions.
I am able to achieve basic function call execution but now I am working with listeners and it is causing issues.
The listeners are not attached since they are attached in onCreate method of Android on the View which relies on Activity class.

How do I Invoke this Activity using unity?

[obtuse arch]

Try using AndroidJavaClass.
You will be able to find examples and usages on unity manual

[chilly nymph]

Anyone know if there's any support to auto listen for speech using webgl? Or would I just roll my own?

[chilly nymph]

Also is there support for JWT or would I need to roll my own too?

[compact egret]

i need lep with animations

help

[somber swift]

Whats lep?

[compact egret]

help*

[tribal pivot]

This is not how you get help. You need one, coherent, post explaining your problem and what you've tried. In the right channel.
Please read #854851968446365696

[compact egret]

i have four animations

one is going to door

second staying in front of door

third going back

an fourth is idle

when its on idle it stays still but

there is a fps controller

and it shouldnt be still

how do i do that

[tribal pivot]

Yeah thats neither one post, nor coherent, nor what you tried, nor in the right channel.

[compact egret]

where should i post it

[maiden turtle]

What should I do to have a render texture whose resolution follows the screen size? Currently, I'm recreating it if the resolution changes. Should I just fix it at some max resolution and only write to and read from a part of it? Should I manually tweak it to powers of two? What's the best way to detect resolution changes? Currently, I'm checking canvas.renderingDisplaySize in update. Is there some sort of resizable texture, or a built-in abstraction for such a texture?

Also, it seems I can't reuse a shared material with a reference to this render texture for this purpose. When the resolution changes and I destroy the previous render texture, my UI elements don't get an update sort of signal that the material's render texture has changed

They just start outputting nothing to the screen at that point

[tribal pivot]

I fear thats the best/only way

afaik some ways of making rt you can pass in -1 to get the screen size

Hm but i cant find it atm

[maiden turtle]

but the textures can never be resized?

[tribal pivot]

Indeed, you have to make new ones

[maiden turtle]

welp, that's a bummer

[warped violet]

what about tiling

and offset

[maiden turtle]

what about it?

[warped violet]

you could use it to zoom in/out

[tribal pivot]

Please no

[maiden turtle]

Then it would become blurry

I'd guess

[warped violet]

so you put ultra quality right away

[maiden turtle]

or bad

[warped violet]

then it wont get

[turbid tinsel]

Is there any actual difference between doing

using System;
namespace Something
{
  [Serializable]
  class A
  {
  }
}```
and
```cs
namespace Something
{
  using System;

  [Serializable]
  class A
  {
  }
}```
?

[warped violet]

if works then no

[maiden turtle]

imo it's better to just render to a part of that texture then

[maiden turtle]

yes

[shadow seal]

Don't using directives have to be first?

[maiden turtle]

example

// It's in the same file
using Thing;
namespace A
{
    using Stuff;
    // both thing and stuff visible here
}

namespace B
{
    // only Thing visible here
}

[turbid tinsel]

ahhhh, I see!
But if I have 1 namespace per file, then it doesn't matter, yes?

[maiden turtle]

yes

[turbid tinsel]

I see

thank you

[maiden turtle]

you're welcome

[maiden turtle]

Also, nested usings are good for aliases. Assume you want Dictionary<string, int> be called Map. You could do

using Map = System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary<string, int>;
namespace A
{
    // use Map
}

But if you do it inside the namespace, you don't have to fully qualify it, it sees the imports then

using System.Collections.Generic;
namespace A
{
    using Map = Dictionary<string, int>;
}

I use this one all the time

using static would see the imports if used within namespace too

[sonic widget]

I dont know if abstract class questions belong here but ill try here as well . :

public abstract class Enemy : MonoBehaviour
{

void Update()
{

        Debug.Log("A MESSAGE");

}

}

public class Walker : Enemy
{
}

I attached walker to an object and I expect the console to show message, but nothing happens

[craggy spear]

dont crosspost - and learn how to share code #854851968446365696 -> posting code.

[jolly token]

Question: In my plugin I use reflection to set propety value. If platform is AOT the property setters can be stripped out. I want walkaround other than [Preserve] or link.xml. Would it safe to set value of backing field of the property?

Right? I think they don’t put any constraints for backing field

[exotic gull]

Ok, so I need a way through scripting to save the bounds of a Collider object in a JSON file. With mesh/box colliders, is there a method that gets the coordinates of the vertices? And for sphere/cylinder either coord equivalents or some alternate method? I just need to get these properties from it in a format that can be interpreted by non-Unity code

[chilly nymph]

That's not optimized.

This is for webgl

But any changes to the canvas dirtiest all the elements.

Unity suggest handling multiple canvases.

It's how elements are dirtied on change.

Do you know how uis are rendered?

[jolly token]

One more question: Would there be a way to know if the property had setter but stripped out?

[chilly nymph]

I can agree on that. But uis are agnostic to engines.

[jolly token]

But getter only properties would have that too

[chilly nymph]

It's the same with update issues on iOS
it's how ui is updated.

I disagree.

You don't lose anything having 2 canvases for heavy operations.

You don't lose anything. That's like saying I lose arcetecture design because I have 2 game objects.

The same can literally be said for your argument.

Hearthstone uses a in game engine.

In house *

[craggy spear]

Hearthstone is Unity

[chilly nymph]

I'll check it out.

https://create.unity.com/Unity-UI-optimization-tips

Read the first suggestion.

Do you know how ui is rendered?

All elements need to be updated on any change.

They are flagged as dirty.

Great so you know the hit you take when you dirty one element.

I don't see why you are saying that's bad advice.

Performance isn't relevant to you? 😄

Well it does. You're trying to make your own argument and telling others it's bad advice.

Why?

You're saying it's bad advice.

[craggy spear]

by saying incorrect things 😄

[chilly nymph]

By telling me out of context advice that I know to be true is bad advice? Weird.

Then what's your argument?

"I don't think it's relevant so it's bad advice"

Sorry but I think this is pretty bad advice.

The profiler isn't a deployed product.

Yes it all depends on the use case. So why are you talking about certain games.

If your code is not abstracted enough to handle multiple canvases I have some bad news for you.

I'm a SE of 10 years mate. You're arguing semantics and your own arguments to try and prove that having multiple canvases is bad advice when we can all agree it's not.

Tweeting is now bad to you?

Tweening *

Changes made to a canvas dirty all elements. Those elements need to be updated.

It's simple design.

[jolly token]

IMO premature optimization can result in some hassle 😌 I think that’s what doc trying to say

[chilly nymph]

This isn't PO

I don't make games.

[jolly token]

You don’t really have to optimize something until you profile it

[chilly nymph]

The profiler is not a good use case for a published product. It can give you an idea.

[jolly token]

You don’t have to use profiler, I meant profile in general

[chilly nymph]

The animation issue I was having was in fact solved by seperating the canvases.

[chilly nymph]

Yes I believe we all do that.

The approach was to seperate the canvases to reduce the loss of frames.

[jolly token]

Yeah for my own use I would do that but I want the my asset to work out-of-box for other users.
Imma just support getter-only property as well by using backing field.

[chilly nymph]

It's not a perfect solution but optimizing frame rates is never a bad thing.

[jolly token]

The thing is I can’t also do this because I’d have to preserve user’s assembly 😌

It sounds horrible already lol

[humble leaf]

@deft tangle Don't crosspost

[exotic gull]

I would like to re-pose this question

[chilly nymph]

You would store the go POS then the vert local POS.

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Collider-bounds.html

[exotic gull]

This just gives the bounding box though, not necessarily the coords of the vertex of say, the mesh in a mesh collider

Right?

[chilly nymph]

Do you have convex collides?

The bb should be sufficient. If that's not then you get the mesh verts.

Your json would be:

Gopos, vertlocalpos[]

[exotic gull]

So BB doesn't just give a box, it gives the convex shape of the object?

Because I'm just imagining the smallest possible rectangular prism the object fits inside, if that makes sense (just max X - min X, etc.)

[chilly nymph]

That is how a bb works.

It's the bounds.

A bb should work for you 99% of the time.

And how colliders shpuld be anyways.

[sly grove]

why wouldn't you just store the position/rotation/scale and center/size/offset settings of the collider?

[sly grove]

the vertices in a mesh collider generally come from the mesh data itself (with potentially some optimizations) and then it's a convex hull if convex is checked

there are no vertices for sphere/capsule colliders

those overlap calculations are done purely with geometry

probably the same for boxes

[exotic gull]

aight

So just BB + Pos + Rot + Scale should give a pretty good estimation for most objects

[sly grove]

bounding boxes are quite crude

and the scale/rot will already have affected the AABB

making larger or smaller

depends on your game design really

and the shapes of things

[chilly nymph]

I'm assuming this is 2D?

[exotic gull]

3D

Should have specified

[sly grove]

Doubt it since mesh colliders were mentioned

[chilly nymph]

Depending on what exactly you need I would personally just use the mesh data.

[chilly nymph]

BB is throwing me off.

How is it consumed?

[exotic gull]

Working on a project where I try to play a game w/ TensorFlow

So I'm trying to give the relevant game info to the program

It doesn't need textures to be able to navigate the level, but it for sure needs to know where colliders are

So it can interact and "see" the world

[chilly nymph]

Can you construct the object as a primitive on TF?

If you can, you can just pass it ID and POS, rot.

[upbeat path]

but a fun one

[exotic gull]

Hey, I have a semester!

The game is Human: Fall Flat if you're curious

Hey, I got the game knowledge

Oh 1000%

[upbeat path]

And, that qualifies you for what exactly?

[exotic gull]

Not officially, but the community has modding tools that I'm familiar with

(I mean, it's just BepInEx but still)

[exotic gull]

If I'm gonna choose a game to play with AI, why would I choose one I know nothing about? Playing doesn't give me knowledge of the inner-workings of the game, but it gives the project purpose and I have a good mental idea of what I want the AI to do

Plus, why not?

Mainly the learning experience and documentation of the project. If it doesn't work I'm still good

[upbeat path]

writing effective ML training scenarios has nothing to do with game knowledge and a lot to do with knowing how software works

[exotic gull]

I'll agree with that

Yeah IK

I mean, I guess working with the ML & interfacing it with programs. Just building some experience and problem solving, etc. while I'm at it. This isn't something serious and I'm well aware there are more practical choices. But it's something I've been wanting to try for a while and the teacher's on board so why not give it my best shot?

[chilly nymph]

You both are acting like he needs to pay for his crimes.

[exotic gull]

Reenforcment learning specifically

[chilly nymph]

The dude wants to fuck with ml

Hff uses unity.

He's making a mod.

[exotic gull]

Yeah, I'm fine working with Unity

To some degree, sure

Not the main one

[chilly nymph]

You haven't even asked his knowledge...

[exotic gull]

I'm already like 3 weeks into this. The multi-page proposal is done and graded

I've already gotten a list of all relevant components & filtered through them

[chilly nymph]

Just grab the mesh data mate.

Use that, 99% of the time that's handling the colliders

[exotic gull]

Imma be real, this is 100% a "fuck it, it sounds fun" project

[chilly nymph]

Anything different write something that would visually display them.

Telling someone 5 min after talking to them that their project is worthless is shit advice.

But you do you doctor.

[exotic gull]

I mean, once I get the data from the components, the rest of the project is gonna hardly involve Unity

And I'd say I'm 60% there

Of the Unity part

[chilly nymph]

"You don't know what you're doing. Scrap the project"

[upbeat path]

what is your problem? @undone coral is being open and honest here

[exotic gull]

dnSpy's worked well enough for viewing source so far

[chilly nymph]

This is coming from you? "And that qualifies you for what exactly"

[exotic gull]

I'm fully aware that I'm oversimplifying, and that this project is a massive reach. This project will most likely result in an AI that can't make it through levels, probably.

[upbeat path]

Fair question, gameplay experience has no value in ML learning programming

[chilly nymph]

You have to be a dick?

[upbeat path]

I question his experience in this task. as far as I see it you are the one being a dick

[chilly nymph]

Ain't you the loser who didn't know about player prefs?

[exotic gull]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chilly nymph]

That's not his main focus.

He just needs the data.

Dude just pull any data.

[exotic gull]

They're very complicated

Especially at this scale

Ah

I'll look through it

[upbeat path]

Yeah right, I know nothing about Player Prefs
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/utilities/player-prefs-plus-124163
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/utilities/player-prefs-lite-222004#description

[chilly nymph]

Crazy, all that time writing a plugin. But didn't know you could use player prefs on webgl.

You sure you know what you're doing?

[upbeat path]

Oh, I'm sure, and I've been doing it a lot longer than you

[chilly nymph]

Shouldn't you have known that webgl uses player prefs then?

Like that's your wheelhouse right?

[upbeat path]

But I do know, show when me where I said I didn't

[exotic gull]

Aight, well Imma get back to the project

[chilly nymph]

When you said the only way to serialize data in webgl was to write a plugin.

[upbeat path]

quote me, show me my post and the context

[exotic gull]

Current plan is to give the AI the collider data + 1 or 2 other properties of all objects within a set radius of the player + the positions of the checkpoints, loading zones, fall boundries, etc.

That much is true

[chilly nymph]

Now you're playing stupid? Come on Steve you're better than this:

[upbeat path]

you specifically asked about a js plugin, I told you the truth. no mention of Player Prefs there

[chilly nymph]

I asked in a Unity discord about webgl...

There's no mention of player prefs because you didn't know you could use player prefs in webgl.

[upbeat path]

this was your question

[chilly nymph]

"What's the process with Webgl and serialization."

[upbeat path]

which I answered. It's not my fault if you asked the wrong question

[exotic gull]

Here's the current idea more fully laid out (subject to change, also still oversimplified):

1) When a new level is loaded, gather list of relevant objects in level (done)
2) Use the "NetIdentity" component (which is on every object whose state/position can change over the course of the level) to determine which objects I need to recheck every few frames
3) Use sockets to transmit the data to python
4) ML (massive oversimplification)
5) Pynput for KBm control back to game```

[chilly nymph]

Well then I guess you're too stupid to put 2 and 2 together on a unity discord?

Shame.

[exotic gull]

I have 18

[upbeat path]

I love the way you only quote half of the question and then expect me to have answered only that half

[chilly nymph]

The second part was a follow up IF the first question didn't have an answer. But you do you mate.

[exotic gull]

probably ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Possibly Keras

HS

[upbeat path]

And if you really are a SE with 10 years experience you would know better

[maiden turtle]

yeah, this'll do nicely

[chilly nymph]

Crazy how you made a plugin with player prefs but still couldn't read between the lines and offer it as a solution.

[exotic gull]

fair

[upbeat path]

Do not blame me for your short commings

[chilly nymph]

Okay player prefs man.

[maiden turtle]

I collect a list of graphics and SetMaterialDirty them

but it might not be necessary with the buffer cleanup you showed

[chilly nymph]

Maybe you need to learn how to interact with real people.

[upbeat path]

Nah, not if 'real' people are like you, I'd rather give it a miss

[chilly nymph]

Well then stop giving shit advice to people when you don't really know what you're talking about?

The best part is all the work you did on your player prefs plugin, you still didn't know you could use it for webgl then called me a moron. Isn't that funny?

Maybe, and just maybe. You might be the issue here.

Things like "And that qualifies you for what exactly" isn't normal behavior when speaking to someone.

[upbeat path]

wtf is your problem? Did you try to implement interop in a browser? Did it work?

[chilly nymph]

wtf is my problem?

Dude you are clueless.

Not only do you give shit advice, you need to learn how to actually interact with others.

[upbeat path]

Oh, I see, I hurt your feelings, boo hoo

[chilly nymph]

No, I'm calling you stupid and not informed even in plugins that you write.

[jolly token]

I think whatever happened between you guys can be resolved in private 🙂

[chilly nymph]

I would suggest Steve learns to interact with people better if he wants to have conversations in public then?

[upbeat path]

And yet, you are the one throwing insults

[chilly nymph]

Do you know how this works?

But anyways, I'm done.

[gray pulsar]

Just disengage. Both of you.

[timber flame]

What is the best/ most common formula to simulate bending cards when shuffling cards?

   float y = v.vertex.y+exp(0.8*max(v.vertex.z,0)-1); 
   const float4 vertex=float4(v.vertex.x,y,v.vertex.z,v.vertex.w);

It is kinda OK but the length of the card changes when bending

It is better but not accurate, :/

  float c = 0.4;
                float d = exp(c*max(v.vertex.z,0)-1); 
                float y = v.vertex.y + d; 
                const float4 vertex=float4(v.vertex.x,y,-5+((v.vertex.z+5))/(1+c*c),v.vertex.w);

Z depends on multiplier (c)

[obtuse arch]

When the motion of animation itself is parameter controlled/procedural.

Or for optimisation purpose too.Animations baked to Vertex shaders (complex process)are pretty cheap to execute compared to thousands of Animator components

[timber flame]

Unfortunately, I do not have it but you are right, it is better to install it and animate in the blender/maya

[surreal vessel]

how would you guys do some nested action that can fail?
right now i use a chain of bool methods, like TryUseItem(), which calls TryIncrementStat(). if any returns false then that propagates back up and nothing happens.
However i thought that maybe i might want some dialog to pop up or something where ill want more than true or false. I suppose try catch blocks would work with custom errors?

eg the user wants to drink a potion but the stat is already maxed out

but this is sort of nested with other mechanisms

yep

yea you could say that

rpg more like

basically

now its like user double clicks potion in inventory > TryUse() on the potion item > TryIncrementStat() on player stats

all of those are bool and if any is false nothing happens

of course i could make something happen but thats not the point here

just thinking more about architecture of this

the thing here is that its sometimes nested maybe liek 3 times and so checking from the top level isnt a good idea

i have it working but was wondering if theres a better way with something liek try catch, for examples:
instead of
if (TryUseItem()) Destroy(gameObject);
use something like

try
{
  Destroy(gameObject);
}
catch(StatsMaxException)
{
  Debug.Log("stats too high");
}
catch(OtherException)
{
  //couldnt do this with the first way
  Debug.Log("other error");
}

why would it?

i always do a check first

[compact ingot]

Because it makes code flow non obvious

[surreal vessel]

on all levels

[compact ingot]

Checking should be unnecessary in a good architecture

[surreal vessel]

something like return codes comes to mind and exceptions seem like a way to do that (never really worked with them before though)

but say you want to use an item, to use it you have to be near something, and that something has to have some internal state and decide if you can use that item

well each class manages its own state

thats the point

but checking is nested

yeah but that would just be rewriting TryUseItem() into if (CanUseItem()) UseItem()

yeah but then you want a way to do different things depending on the error

for example show a dialog for one thing, or just do nothing for other errors

yeah i suppose

well right now its try to use the item, if thats not possible then do nothing but i want to eventually make something that tells the user why

yeah but its not always a toast or dialog

sometimes it might do different actions

well actions as in maybe just do nothing

dialog

well dialog with options

how come

maybe its a confirmation

and by other game mechanics that should decide themselves

aware of that

yeah

[jolly token]

If you put steps as data in spreadsheet it forces to normalize your data, shows flow, and everyone will be happy 😄

[surreal vessel]

yeah i see what you mean with that

strong types are why i despise using javascript

and yep rust is a great language and solves that issue quite well

so i suppose you can do what i need with async await rather than exceptions

[jolly token]

Exceptions are exceptions, regular code flow should not utilize them as goto

[chilly nymph]

Is this a process that needs to be waiting? Or can you have listeners?

[maiden turtle]

I've been thinking about how to do this, especially without the use of exceptions. Currently, I have just a stateful event based system for selecting. Using tasks looks nice on the api level, but would probably be very complicated on the inside

[zenith ginkgo]

Unitask again i see

[jolly token]

About hidden component on base prefab I ran some test cases
And yes it seems like prefab variant is just an editor concept
Even in editor the loaded variant doesn't seem to get affected when modifying parent.

Though it seems like writing to asset when you are not using 'DontSave' flags

[brave widget]

Hey guys, so I have a bit of a maths dilemer that I'm not sure how to properly solve

So I'm creating a Lego building system, using a grid system

As you can see from the image, I'm not exactly sure how to solve it where if the stud amount along either the x or z axis is odd (or even) then correctly place them accordingly

My origin is directly in the center of each object btw ( not changable as of yet )

So far I'm getting the closest point on the grid and setting its position to that ( also based on mouse movement as its drag )

        if (Physics.Raycast(ray, out hit)) {
          // Make sure hit isn't the same the brick being dragged

          // Get the closest grid position to the mouse position
          Vector3 closestPosition = Grid.instance.GetClosestPoint(hit.point);
          // Update the GameObject's position

          // Create an offset based on the grids tile size
          float x = closestPosition.x;
          float z = closestPosition.z;
          
          // If the Bricks studX or studZ is even then add half the tile size to the offset
          if (studsX % 2 == 0) {
            x -= Grid.instance.tileSize / 2;
          }

          if (studsZ % 2 == 0) {
            z -= Grid.instance.tileSize / 2;
          }
          
          // Round the Y value of hit.point to the nearest 0.16 multiplier
          float y = (Mathf.Round(hit.point.y / 0.048f) * 0.048f) - 0.048f;

          transform.position = new Vector3(x, y * brickHeight, z);
        }

It works fine, but as soon as you rotate it, it goes off again

Not sure how I'd perfectly get it to place like Lego

Even, Even works
Odd - Odd Works

Even - Odd doesn't work, not placed properly

How could I get it so trhat based on the orientation it fixes iteself accordingly if the x or z studs are odd or even?

Here's a gif of it working and how Odd - even doesn't work

Found a solution that works :)

just gotta inverse the x and z studs values based on rotation so my module (%) works on rotation

[hollow stream]

Is there a function I can use that can set the max distance a GameObject can move from NavMeshAgent?

[regal olive]

I don’t know what to say because I have no clue how to fix this
But very cool 😎

[glass anvil]

Looks like you want initial distance to target / 2.. if agent is close to that distance stop the agent

[hollow stream]

I guess that's a bad example, but the max distance is relative to the GameObject

[hollow stream]

One thing I had in mind was to simply just stop the Agent once he reaches max distance, but I'd like to clear identify to the player the point it would stop before the GameObject reaches its max distance

    private Vector2 MaxDistancePath( NavMeshPath path ){

        float distance = 0;
        Vector2 previousVect = Vector2.zero;

        for ( int i = 0; i < path.corners.Length - 1; i++ ) {
            distance += ( path.corners[i] - path.corners[i + 1] ).magnitude;
            if( distance >= distanceLeft ){
                previousVect = path.corners[i];
                break;
            }
        }

        return new Vector2( previousVect.x + (distance - distanceLeft) , previousVect.y + (distance - distanceLeft) );
    }

I have the magnitude with this function to get the max distance, but now having a hard time trying to apply it

I want to avoid recalculating a new path if possible from the new max distance point

I figured maybe somewhere there was already a function that might exist, but I can't seem to find anything in the documentation

[glass anvil]

well if you have a path calculated to find max distance and don't want to recalculate - cache this max distance separately so it's not overwritten using agent.HasPath to ensure you only write the max on your initial destination execution.. is that what you mean?

[hollow stream]

No, so the path calculated is what's in the screen shot (white line), going to the mouse
I'm looking to recalculate a new path showing point of origin to the max distance

[glass anvil]

I'm looking to recalculate a new path showing point of origin to the max distance
Yes- so do that by creating a new path providing the origin and max distance

are you having trouble getting an origin, the max distance, creating a new path I'm not sure what the issue is

[hollow stream]

Ah, sorry... having an issue getting the Vector2 of the max distance point

[glass anvil]

try using Vector2.MoveTowards to interpolate between corners/destination

[icy aspen]

Hey guys, I was wondering if there's a way to only update the leaderboard's value from PlayFab if the new score is higher than the previous one? This is my code, as you can see now i update the leaderboard every time the player gets a new score (this code works). But I want it so that it only updates when time is higher than the previous one already stored inside playfab.

[split folio]

you download the players data when they join right and keep track of it?
then you can just compare new vs old and update if the new one is higher with a simple if statement

[icy aspen]

yeah but how do i access the old one?

[split folio]

by downloading it from playfab and store the data received a static script

[icy aspen]

ok

thanks you

thank*

@split folio It worked!

[torn basalt]

Whos alive in here

[cedar cape]

not me, im totally dead

[torn basalt]

lol

[snow flint]

hi guys, wondering if you could provide some guidance here, im trying a new approach
var actionDataTesting = DataLoaderSystem.Instance.actionDataTest; foreach (var actionDescription in actionDataTesting) { var action = gameObject.AddComponent<BaseAction>(); action.actionName = "testig new apprach123"; _baseActions.Add(action); action.Setup(actionDescription); }

actionDescription is a bunch of data read in from json

the problem is... i really need to be creating ... MoveAction or TargetAction... id love to be able to just make Action and then fed data.. but I'm sure how to do that...
ive pretty much made everything else work.

My MoveAction type has all this logic for move actions and i dont want to put everything in Action but without reflection im not sure how to instantiate the action class, pass it data and make it a move action

i hope this makes sense

i mean i could just read a value from the json and create that particular type of action but wondering if there is another way..

[brisk pasture]

so to make sure i understand what you want, your issue is constructing the action because you have multiple types you want to construct based on the actionDescription?

[torn basalt]

Hey I am trying to have a set of verts that make up a face on a cube match the Z position of my VR controller. I have it raycasting out to the face and collecting the verts that make up that face. I then pull the trigger and those verts position should snap to the z position of my controller. Since both of these (controller and vert) are in local space, I converted them to world since the controller only reports back Vector3.zero and tried to assign the z of the controlle rto the z of the converted vetex position and then assign that to the vert but it snaps and reacts at a very far ooff z distance in fron of me

Any tips on how to match the position of 2 local space objects?

[woeful kraken]

Not sure if this is the right space but here goes: does anybody else have issues with Prefabs and nested Prefabs deserializing fields when you switch branches in a GitHub environment? We're talking silly things - a dictionary doesn't have it's info anymore. A list loses track of things. A nested Prefabs forgets a child object or two. Etc.

Any hints at what causes this?

[split folio]

Github wipes data stored on their server like once or twice a day

Should only store executables there, nothing that might change, cause that'll reset

Idk if thats your issue but yeah

[woeful kraken]

Are you saying GitHub is not a place for storing source code?

[split folio]

No, im saying its not a place to save data

[brisk pasture]

think he is referring to like Github actions and CI stuff

[split folio]

🤷

[woeful kraken]

Okay so I'm storing Unity source code. CS scripts. Etc. We switch branches in project, and on rare occasion, after switching to a branch some devs notice their Prefabs aren't right in the editor. Others will be fine though. Sometimes switching back and forth will fix it. Sometimes not.

And you're saying this is because GitHub isn't a good place to store unity projects or C# scripts, etc?

[split folio]

No, i just understood your question a little wrong first

[woeful kraken]

Ahh

Well have you experienced the issue?

[split folio]

Cant say i have, never used github with unity

Only ever used github when i made discord bots, saved info in json files and other files
They got reset every single day

[woeful kraken]

I see

[split folio]

When we then searched on the issue, we found out github cleans up data frequently, resetting files to their original

[woeful kraken]

Not convinced this is the case for us. Some of the objects going haywire are not Prefabs we actively touched. But we do touch the scenes they are in.

And in our case, we do not rename the objects or scenes

It's just sometimes we switch branches and a prefab seems to lose track of it's fields. It's usually more complex types, like a dictionary or list.

[brisk pasture]

what type of serialization are you using?

if using something like git or hg you will want TEXT and visible meta files

[woeful kraken]

SerializeField

[brisk pasture]

no the format

[woeful kraken]

And forced text

And yes visible meta files.

[brisk pasture]

meta files need to be versioned, and the library folder must be ignored

i can confirm Git and Github are fine for unity projects have been using a mix of p4 and git for unity projects for a decade

it kinda sounds like unhandled merge conflicts

[woeful kraken]

Library folder is ignored.
Not sure on Meta versioning.

This partially describes the behavior. Sometimes we switch to FOO, then back to BAR and the issue corrects itseld

[brisk pasture]

yeah if meta's are not versioned pretty much everything breaks

almost all asset references will be lost or buggered up between branch switches and clones

[woeful kraken]

How would I confirm if the metals are versions?

Meta's. Pardon

[brisk pasture]

what does your gitignore look like?

https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/main/Unity.gitignore

this is a good base to start with for one

than you can add anything else you need for your IDE or things are are for your project that need to be ignored

[woeful kraken]

I checked gitignore. It is not ignoring .meta files

[brisk pasture]

are changes to meta files being committed with the files they are for

[woeful kraken]

In theory, yea

Though I don't sit behind Every dev

[brisk pasture]

other things i could be is branch switching with uncommited changes, and how conflicts are being dealt with

[woeful kraken]

We do need to improve yaml merging yes.

[brisk pasture]

yeah assets do not merge well

even with the yamlmergetool

[woeful kraken]

We don't have a user friendly method of handling prefab conflicts

[brisk pasture]

that is the main downside of git for unity, is art assets, scenes and prefabs do not merge well, and Git even with lfs does not provide a good way to do checkouts compared to say perforce

[woeful kraken]

So basicall, we need to babysit meta file ida

[brisk pasture]

but with a bit of team communication that problem can be avoided

to me it very much sounds like meta's are not be committed when they should

thus some peoples systems are regenerating them with different guids

once a asset is made, you want it to have the same guid forever

[tender flume]

Anyone knows how to prevent Unity from showing "Everything" in an enum flag type? https://twitter.com/RatKingsLair/status/1564588831562776576

[woeful kraken]

I see

[brisk pasture]

if you diff branches, the 2nd line of the meta contains the guid

also everyone should be on the exact same unity version

and if you upgrade you upgrade as a team

[woeful kraken]

I am a dev. But it's my first time in the flavor of env. Usually i leveraged plastic scm and it didn't suck balls.

We are technically using BitBucket and this is my first time seeing this weird horseshit

Aka, I've never had to babysit meta files so hard

100%. Ten years vet here. Didn't have this issue in last two jobs

PlasticSCM took care of this for us. Mercurial never had this issue either

[brisk pasture]

been working in unity using hg or git for 10 years or longer as well, with no issues like this

[woeful kraken]

Ooh we're getting snooty. Ain't you cute

[tired creek]

Hi, I am looking for a good resource describing, ideally with code examples, how to perform operations such as splitting an edge of a polygon mesh. I'm trying to implement certain operations on my own.

[brisk pasture]

worked in inhouse engines before unity, that had a similar system to meta files too without issues back in the svn days

no point getting angry at the system, its learn how it works, or go back to what was used before

[woeful kraken]

Don't know what to tell you. I've worked in a few places including Facebook Reality Labs. This is the first place that has this issue.

Well you see I don't actually know thus the question

Again so snooty. Ain't you cute

[brisk pasture]

either way the current way this is going is not productive for anyone

but i find it weird you claim its a bug or issue with a system, that is literally one of the most used VCS systems in the world for all kinds of dev

[woeful kraken]

So it's technically BitBucket, which I haven't really used before. They don't have a proper Yaml merge tool. I don't KNOW of this causes the problems. I just know when the problems arise - when switching branches

[brisk pasture]

bitbucket is just a host

[woeful kraken]

Concur. And it shouldn't be acting strangely

[brisk pasture]

Git is the system, and you actually can set it up to use the yamlmergetool contained in your unity install

[woeful kraken]

And I've shared Unity indie projects with ol' fashioned GitHub for gamejams and again never had to babysit meta files before

[brisk pasture]

find a branch where switching to it casues issues

[woeful kraken]

I can try to hunt down the guid next time there's a conflict. For science. The project lead that's been here says he's had he issue here or there but can never see what's causing it.

[brisk pasture]

git diff otherbranch

[woeful kraken]

I'll try that. It doesn't happen 100% of the time

Thank you for your help @brisk pasture

[woeful kraken]

Interesting. I've found a great article on how to read YAML files, @brisk pasture , and I'm noticing there are fields tagged as a "Library" asset when theyre actually inside the Asset folder. Any thoughts on whether this could be an issue?

[undone coral]

are you guys using conventional unity serialization, or Odin, or something else? do you implement your own handlers or other complex stuff like editors?

i don't think your project is in any serious kind of jeopardy. merging scene or prefab YAML, even with the yaml merge tool, is pretty janky

[woeful kraken]

Not allowed to use Odin due to licensing structure and our institution.

Should be standard serializer.

We are trying to use the new UI Toolkit but not sure this is the mischief maker

[undone coral]

i don't know if that's the issue though

okay i think the meta files and ids and such are probably a red herring

hg and git only keep track of files, not folders. so that metafile mystery that you are seeing is a folder becoming empty

when switching branches

but unity adds .meta files for folders

so when you swithc a branch to a folder that is now newly empty

the directory will not be there but the metafile will

because someone accidentally checked in an empty directory

it isn't going to hurt anything

if someone checked in stuff without its .meta files

that's bad, that will mess things up

[woeful kraken]

I suppose it could be. Except that one of my culprit Prefabs is in a folder that doesn't get touched; doesn't go empty; it just seems to lose its serialized dictionary inputs.

[undone coral]

well

[woeful kraken]

So this is the part I wonder about

[undone coral]

a Dictionary<?,?> isn't saved

so i think the dictionary is also a red herring

[woeful kraken]

Could be I don't knke

Know*

Like Ive said before I've worked two other studios before this; they had their problems; this just wasn't one of them.

[jolly token]

This shouldn’t be happen unless you are version controlling Library folder or something

[woeful kraken]

Library file is ignored

In our gitignore I mean

[undone coral]

you're using git right not hg?

[woeful kraken]

At this studio, yes. BitBucket with GitHub.

I havenused Hg before and it didn't give me this issue

[undone coral]

okay

[jolly token]

We are talking about actually serialized field right?

[undone coral]

serialization is an oft misused word. let's just stick to, does something you do in the inspector save into a file? a Dictionary type won't appear in the inspector by default

if you have a special fake dictionary

like one that uses an array of tuples, and then gets turned into a dictionary at runtime

i mean, maybe that's miswritten

[jolly token]

Also you are using text meta file too right?

[woeful kraken]

Yes it's a dictionary marked with serialized field, and serialized generic type

[undone coral]

can you show me

show the code i mean

[jolly token]

Umm that’s still not serialized

If it’s a type Unity doesn’t support

[undone coral]

i mean it should be obvious that it's not in the inspector, but i think it does appear in the inspector

[brisk pasture]

dictionary out of the box does not support unity serialization

[undone coral]

because you're saying you're changing a dictionary

so it's some kind of custom thing

that may be buggy

[woeful kraken]

Sadly know. I'm on my cell and discord is banned from work magine

[undone coral]

it's probably a custom thing

and maybe it has a bug

but i'll trust that you're editing a dictionary in the inspector

it's not super important

[woeful kraken]

Could be. Let me check

Yeah we are editing in inspector

[jolly token]

Sounds like custom yeah

[undone coral]

it's not likely you have an issue with .gitignore

if your people just went and got the one off GitHub, it's fine

[brisk pasture]

yeah so that is its own logic, and custom serialization logic that could have a bug

[woeful kraken]

We have a dictionary type. Its serialized.

Then a script for prefab. In that script is a serializedField that marks a dictionary type.

And then it populayes in inspector

[undone coral]

is there a .gitattributes file in the repo?

[undone coral]

suffice it to say it's buggy

[woeful kraken]

Yes

[undone coral]

okay, is a .prefab, .unity, .meta or .asset file declared in it?

and what are some of the things that are added, probably to the bottom?

are they weird?

[jolly token]

Do you have submodule?

[wind gyro]

Hey there, had a question about analytics. Not sure if this is the place to ask. We're working on a deck-builder of sorts, and we'd like to start tracking decks (or more specifically, cards in decks) that do well. I'm struggling a bit with how the analytics events would look, and how we could query it. Would you send an event with a json object with all the card indices? If so, how would you go about querying that with the SQL Data Explorer? Was wondering if anyone here had any experience with anything similar

[undone coral]

this is pretty hard

SQL Data Explorer?
hmm

[undone coral]

it's probably too premature for this

[wind gyro]

Ye, I figured it might be. Was looking at maybe exporting to our own database, and doing operations from there

[undone coral]

the only intellectually honest answer is you track an exact deck (a sorted list of cards associated with the date of issue of those collections)

there's no good way to say how similar two decks are to each other, because for strategy card games, the difference of a single card can have a big impact on win rates

hsreplay curates the rules for the archetypes

so it may say that everything in this archetype must have an X and a Y, with at most Z cards different

having enough copies of the exact deck in your data requires players, of which you have 0

so you'd have no way to test this

[wind gyro]

Ye, win rate is a difficult one to track. I noticed hearthstone and what not usually track typical meta decks, and base it on that

But for example tracking picked cards would already prove useful in some capacity

But I think for that I may have to export that data and write something myself to visualize it, or use Tableau or something

[undone coral]

picked cards in a draft format?

[undone coral]

But I think for that I may have to export that data and write something myself to visualize it, or use Tableau or something
in the long run, every video game eventually stores traces and analyzes them post-hoc

it's very cantankerous

it's better to just code in the exact questions you actually want to ask

tracking picked cards isn't 100%, what is a specific question?

[wind gyro]

Ye, I figured. I did notice that there is no longer a raw data export for Unity, and that it is now done via Snowflake. I'm not very familiar with that. Is it easy to transfer to an SQL database of our own?

As for the data we're trying to collect. This is for a client, and they atm just wanna know which cards are in games that are won. I also noted that I think that data is very much based on the whole deck, but thats what I was tasked with

(as a headsup, I dont have a background in data analysis and am pretty new at it)

[undone coral]

okay

is this for a conventional card game, a play to earn card game, or another kind of cryptocurrency related card game?

or like an educational game or something

or it's not multiplayer

just so i understand

i think if unity provides a snowflake integration, you can simply pay and use snowflake

it's a little cantakerous though for something that might have 10 players or whatever

it really depends on the game

[wind gyro]

It's a multiplayer game. It's not quite a card game, it's a turn-based strategy game, but with an army with units (I found the deck comparison a bit easier for my usecase)

[undone coral]

okay

[wind gyro]

Atm, its a conventional game, but I do believe they intend on adding an NFT element

[undone coral]

okay

so for this specific question

you can do something like

void OnGameEnd() {
 foreach (var tuple in 
         army.SelectMany(army => army.units
               .Select(unit => (unit, isWinner: army.playerId == Game.instance.winningPlayerId))) {
  var (unit, isWinner) = tuple;
  Event({
    action: "Unit Used In Army",
    label: unit.unitId,
    value: isWinner ? 1 : 0
  });
  Event({
    action: "Unit Used In Army",
    label: unit.rarity,
    value: isWinner ? 1 : 0
  });
  Event({
    action: "Unit Used In Army",
    label: unit.cost,
    value: isWinner ? 1 : 0
  });
  ...
 }
}

does this make sense?

this could be something like GAv4

you are just measuring directly a numerator of the number of wins for a unity and a denominator for the number of decks

[wind gyro]

For reporting, that makes sense. I'm not familiar with GAv4 though, thats google analytics?

[undone coral]

yes

reporting...

you won't be doing anything in SQL

it's too complicated for you

it's unnecessary

you can query GA data in bigquery

[wind gyro]

I'm not very familiar with GA data / bigquery, but I can do my research into that

So you would suggest stepping away from the Unity Analytics?

[undone coral]

unity analytics works the same way

the backend you use doesn't really matter

does the game already record events?

[wind gyro]

Some very basic ones atm

[undone coral]

well

it would take an expert to determine if you can answer the question about unit winrates with the data they already have

it will be obvious from the events in Unity Analytics that are actually recorded

an expert doesn't need the raw data to determine that

[wind gyro]

Hm, just to continue on that a bit @undone coral. I think I may have gotten lost a bit with what events you're sending through in that script you linked. There you send an event per unit, at the end of a game?

Or do you send through an array of the units?

[undone coral]

hmm

[wind gyro]

Because I can't figure out how to read an array in the unity analytics dashboard

[undone coral]

you can't

i think part of this is learning the limitations of conventional analytics systems

and knowing how to work around them

[wind gyro]

And if its 1 per unit, won't rate limit become an issue?

[undone coral]

hmm

no

so it sounds like you have a remit to collect data, and also to try to do something with pre-existing data

your game can't write to a SQL database, that's a nonstarter

i think this is all stuff you can figure out though

[wind gyro]

Hm, well, I've got some things to get started. I appreciate the help!

[wind gyro]

I'm not sure what you mean by this though?

[undone coral]

that you have some pre-existing data they're already recording

that you might be able to analyze

and that you're also supposed to modify their unity client of the game

do you have access to the server backend source code?

[wind gyro]

Ah, none of the unit data yet. They've just got some analytics for matches played and what not

I've got access to the whole project

[undone coral]

it is probably easier to do this from the server code.

[wind gyro]

To clarify, I'm not supposed to be the one to analyze the data, I'm supposed to implement it, and make it accessible

[undone coral]

usually that means sending data to a pre-existing web service

do people actually play the game?

is there even enough data?

[wind gyro]

Imo, there isn't, but they wanna have it ready for the launch

[undone coral]

okay

i author a multiplayer card game

it is really hard

[wind gyro]

Ye, I'm picking up on that

[undone coral]

the most valuable thing you can do is tell these people to greatly reduce the scope of what they are trying to do

marvel snap took 4 years to develop

for a team of 20 people

almost all of whom had experience making hearthstone

so it's tough, what your people are asking for

there's nothing i can do to help you translate their questions into the particular service you want to use. you'd need to have the full picture - how to record the data, and then how you're going to use the tool to turn the data into the measurement you want

@wind gyro do you know how long they've been working on this game? have you been able to actually play it (does it have a bot)?

[wind gyro]

A couple of months. I have played it yes

I'm discussing the scope with the team now

[undone coral]

is it using an asset?

[wind gyro]

It's build from scratch

[undone coral]

oh yeah because it's not a card game i'm sorry

it's an autochess?

or turnbased*

so it's Advance Wars?

i think if the units have any spell-like behavior, it's going to take them 2-4 years to make this game

and if it doesn't, you should expect at least 1 year

do you have to start the server on your local machine in order to play the game?

[wind gyro]

We've got server orchestration

[undone coral]

hmm

so these are two armies, but there are numbers written on the units

and there are like 5 unit types, and that's it?

or do they have text, like a card game?

[undone coral]

consider that you might not be sure what is and is not in there

another perspective is, if there's no text on the units, or there are very fixed unit types

your analytics can be a lot simpler

they already have unity analytics events? do they have any opinions on how this should be done?

@wind gyro i'm trying to get to the bottom of what makes sense here

people who can build a working multiplayer game in "a couple of months" don't need someone to invent analytics for them. they'd have the experience to know to write all the analytics events at the end of the development process, not the beginning

they would have already seen all of this before, and have a lot of opinions on how it should be done

the alternative explanation is that there is a long journey ahead still, and the game appears to be in better shape than it is, and most of your questions should be architectural

you can certainly record to your own database from the game's backend

analytics services are expensive because of all the UI and standard flows they provide

you can certainly connect Tableau to a SQL database the backend accesses, Tableau is very expensive

when I last used it it was $10,000/mo

you would have to know a lot about that stuff

it really depends what this data will be used for too. for a "numbers" game you don't need analytics to do balancing

for a "spells on the units" game it really depends

if it's for blogs or whatever

it's different

you also have to do all this while this codebase is actively being worked on

which is why i say analytics are done at the end

maybe they should pay me to do it

[wind gyro]

I thank you for your info, but I do have to run now. I've taken some notes on the scope, and will discuss it during our next meeting with them

There's also some nuances that are hard to get across in chat, it's not quite as you describe

I may have been unclear in some cases

But I know where to go from here, thank you!

[hexed meteor]

Any tips on creating a system for enemies to Navigate/Pathfind on a moving platform?

Unities navmesh does not support this sadly

[wintry dragon]

What's worse in general: More vertices or more materials?
With greedy meshing, I'll have to add materials to my mesh to allow for tiling on specific areas of the mesh.

[sly grove]

more materials

each material == a draw call

[hexed meteor]

in SRP more materials is not a problem, they are batched if they share the same shader

[sly grove]

if the material supports batching

[hexed meteor]

yeah, given that

[compact ingot]

Batching just means making few out of many based on similarity. So it’s still vertices over materials

[brave widget]

Hey guys, I'm wondering what the best method is on having a detection system that allows it so as soon as 1 brick touches another it instantly goes to the top of it

I've tried colliders but to no avail as it seems a bit buggy an dnot sure how to make it go back to its original Y before hand

Atm I'm just shooting a ray when I drag and if it hits an object it goes to the correct Y posirion, but you can see how it quickly fails

Any ideas?

[compact ingot]

Use volumetric casts

[jolly token]

I think he is using raycast currently

[sly grove]

I'd be doing Physics.OverlapBox to detect if I'm colliding with any other blocks. Then iteratively testing spots highter and hogher until finding a free zone

[brave widget]

I thought that too but where?

I was thinking the corners of each brick but then what if I had a

3x3 brick going to a 1x3 brick, it would only owk if i touch the corner first, what if I go in the middle

[sly grove]

you could actually also just use a pure 3D grid structure for this

with no physics at all

[brave widget]

cool will try that :)

[jolly token]

It'd be best if you do it with calculation, since your game is tiled environment

[compact ingot]

Use the volumetric casts

[brave widget]

true and tthen just hasve a system that occurs grid spots, so like this brick is on grids ....

[brave widget]

never heard of it will research

ty guys super helpful

[sly grove]

yes you can basically just check if any of the blocks in your new block would touch any spots that are occupied already

and keep trying that as you move it upwards

[compact ingot]

What praetor suggested

[sly grove]

@brave widget volumetric cast == overlapbox

[brave widget]

OverlapBox?

ahh

isee

gotchu