🖱️┃input-system

[lost mirage]

Huh weird... so I added an InputActionMap via code to an existing Input asset , and I have ondestroy to remove the same map, but I'm getting this error:
InvalidOperationException: An action map called 'TilesSelectorEditorTool' already exists in the asset

initialization:

      if(ExtraBindings is not null && ExtraBindings.Any()) {
        WorldEditor.Controls.actions.AddActionMap(ExtraBindings);
        ExtraBindings.Enable();
      } ```

OnDestroy:

  if(ExtraBindings is not null && ExtraBindings.Any()) {
    ExtraBindings.Disable();
    WorldEditor.Controls.actions.RemoveActionMap(ExtraBindings);
  }```

ExtraBindings is just an InputActionMap

I also can't see the map it's saying exists already in the actual asset itself in the editor:

Huh... So I restarted unity and see it now, but it looks like my save button's not working anymore

https://i.gyazo.com/fd774c8bccbe79af8323810e4ce2ec03.mp4

[final geode]

yee
https://gfycat.com/majesticwelllithamadryad

built tools to let me easily set up more of these

[opal flare]

Hello !

does anyone know how to use you joycon for unity ?

liek i have a project and i would like to try to make it work with joycons too

anyone knowing how to do this?

[ember pollen]

nice one

[dreamy swift]

how do you get your mouse x and y axes with active input handling?

[austere grotto]

New system or old system? "Active input handling" is just the project setting that lets you choose between the new and old system

[dreamy swift]

sry I didn't see your message, new system

[austere grotto]

You can bind an input action to Mouse/Delta

[dreamy swift]

ok and should that be an 1D axis or a 2D vector?

[austere grotto]

2D of course

You have two dimensions - x and y

[dreamy swift]

ok thx

[dreamy swift]

if you or anyone else is still there, is this right?

[austere grotto]

no

don't use a vector2 composite

just use a normal binding

and bind mouse/delta to it

[dreamy swift]

oh ok

should that be a button, value or pass through?

[austere grotto]

value/vector2

[dreamy swift]

alright ty, I should be able to figure it out now, but I'll send a message if there's anything else

[mossy roost]

Hey there!
Can someone please tell me how to change "Scale Vector 2" under "Processors" in game?
Thanks in advance!

[dusk portal]

Hello, is there a way to detect if a keyboard is available for input ? (using the old inputsystem)

[steep ridge]

How can I get all information of a Touch there is zur Control Type Touch but I can not geht its information aus I dont't know what type ist returns any Ideas ?

*it

[dusk portal]

is zur ?

[steep ridge]

There is a Control Type

Sorry autocorrect 😅

[dusk portal]

Not sure to understand but maybe this what you are looking for:

Input.touchSupported, Input.touchCount, foreach (Touch touch in Input.touches)

[foggy notch]

Use enhancedtouch

[steep ridge]

Ah thanks I will Take a Look but Ther is a Control Type called Toch so I was wondering If can't Just geht The Primary Toch and then ger all teh information

[foggy notch]

You can use the regular Touch but enhanced Touch gives you more information

[steep ridge]

And how would I get the Informationen Form regular Touch cause wenn I usw readValue I dono what to Put in there so that IT works

[foggy notch]

You don’t read value for touch

[steep ridge]

So how would I get the Information ?

[foggy notch]

var activeTouches = UnityEngine.InputSystem.EnhancedTouch.Touch.activeTouches

[steep ridge]

Thanks

[spare frigate]

Is it possible to rebind a input binding using a gamepad/controller? I can for example, rebind my "Jump" action to space or some other key with my keyboard, but could I rebind it to lets say "South" with my controller? (being X on PS4 and A on Xbox)

[foggy notch]

Yes

[spare frigate]

How would I go about it? Do I specifically have to listen for Gamepad.current myself, or is there already a built-in way like with rebinding? Using RebindingOperation op = someAction.PerformInteractiveRebinding(0).Start() only cares about keyboard input, absolutely nothing happens when I try to give it controller input during a rebind, is there another function for controllers?

[foggy notch]

There’s honestly a lot of ways to do it and it really just depends on what you’re trying to do

If you want different presets like Default, Tactical, Southpaw you could just have InputActions presets

I’d have to look up how to listen to input with a game pad but you could definitely do it with a drop down menu

[spare frigate]

Im basically trying to setup a rebinding system at runtime so players can choose to change for example "Jump" to whatever key they want, regardless if they are using a controller to play the game or a mouse and keyboard - I have it setup already that my character controller will recognize if theres any input from the controller switch the scheme to the controller scheme, otherwise use the keyboard one, so far the only idea I have is to setup a Update function somewhere and just check every single button and axis for controller input and if there is any on a specific one, return it and basically do the listening myself, but that wouldnt go through RebndingOperation at all

[foggy notch]

I’d honestly create a method to listen for input every frame

[spare frigate]

Ah alright, I guess theres no convenient built-in way, I guess it could create my own listener for controllers specifically then, or try a dropdown like you suggested and do the rebinding by a switch statement or something - thanks

[gleaming oar]

I'd create separate input actions, one for controller and one for mouse/keyboard that accomplish the same tasks, with separate functions for each one's .performed. OR create 2 different InputActionReference's and subscribe all the functions once--then at runtime swap the InputActionReference variables whenever the input type is switched

Since InputActionReference abstracts away the action to just whatever the action is. It could be anything as long as the context.action.ReadValue is of the correct type

[spare frigate]

Hmm, even making multiple .performed functions would still leave me with an issue of actually accepting controller input as the rebind request for specific actions, so I ended up going with a bit of a tedious approach, maybe theres a better way, but I basically just made a enum for each button/axis/trigger on the controller, and setup Gamepad.current in a Update to check for every single controller input, then made the "lastAction" as a public static enum, this way in my rebinding script when I start "listening for a key to rebind to", I can check if the lastAction != ControllerInputNames.None then get the path for that specific button/axis/etc - seems to work fine so far, and the same rebinding script has a check if there is a gamepad and its active then use this new GamepadListener, otherwise use the built-in RebindOperator for keyboard listening

[jagged wyvern]

Didn't unity already provide that functionality in their samples?

[gleaming oar]

as long as it's event based it should be good

[sick stratus]

Is there an issue with the Input System? In 2021.2.2f1, my input is only working when the game window is not focused. If it is focused, no input is read.

[sick stratus]

Weird. Seems that I cannot directly ReadValue<Vector2> as a return type, but I have to assign the ReadValue to a defined vector2 first, and then read from that vector2

[austere grotto]

That seems... untrue

[stable coral]

So I'm having issues I'm not really understanding. So I'm working on local multi and If I have "Joining by default enabled" enabled then only the first player who connects can use the ui. But if nobody joins then both can use it, as i want to

is there a way to make players join but also be able for both of them to use the ui?

[stable coral]

wait... i fixed it somehow lmao

[hallow solstice]

Anyway, how can I get the new input system equivalent of mouseX and mouseY?

The ones that get movement rather than position

[foggy notch]

deltaPosition

[lone blade]

Hello everybody, I am having a bit of trouble implementing user controls with the new input system. I have added the Input events called "ShowDebugWindow" and "Return", aswell as adding a 'Player Input' component to my player but when I press these buttons, nothing happens. and Rider says that these methods "are never used". What am I doing wrong here?

[crisp gyro]

where are those methods being called from

[lone blade]

what do you mean?

[jagged wyvern]

with the player input component?

[lone blade]

here?

[jagged wyvern]

make OnReturn to onReturn

[lone blade]

even then it gets angry

[jagged wyvern]

is the script on the same game object?

[lone blade]

no?

oh

waot... are they supposed to be on the same go?

[jagged wyvern]

yes

[lone blade]

hang on

[jagged wyvern]

that's how sendmessages works

[lone blade]

I must be doing something else wrong?

[jagged wyvern]

change back to OnReturn that was my bad

[lone blade]

It's still not working? Even rider says the method is never used?

[jagged wyvern]

When will showconsole be true

[lone blade]

I'm doing a flip flop so, whats supposed to happen is if the user presses the ` key, it would turn the console on and off

but the OnToggleDebugConsole input also does not work

I know the OnToggleDebugConsole input also doesn't work because that debug.log doesn't... log

i am really bloody puzzled

[jagged wyvern]

should work idk what to tell u

alternatively using unity events works too

[lone blade]

hmm

could it be a setting problem?

[jagged wyvern]

idk

[lone blade]

hmmm right okay

[crisp gyro]

do you know how the new input system works

whenever any binding for an action if fired, it triggers an event

where in your code are you calling the methods you want when those events are triggered]

[jagged wyvern]

there's many ways to use the input system, events aren't the only way

[crisp gyro]

@jagged wyvernyou mean you can also read the value of an action?

the problem is that I don't see any way that upsilon is connecting those actions to the methods he wants called

in any way

[jagged wyvern]

with the player input component

I've used that way before

it works but i don't know why his doesn't

[crisp gyro]

and how do you get values from the player input component?

[jagged wyvern]

with send messages

[crisp gyro]

wait

so aren't his methods supposed to have the same exact name as the actions?

[jagged wyvern]

no

read the documentation

[lone blade]

I think its On[actionName]

[jagged wyvern]

yes

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/763502300781477948/941881777071484928/unknown.png

says right here

[lone blade]

i have even tried reinstalling the package and recreating the input action set

[jagged wyvern]

did it work

[crisp gyro]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65484137/new-input-system-not-sending-messages

[lone blade]

I have set up schemes

and no

[crisp gyro]

Does it work if you try using the events?

or action.performed?

[lone blade]

its like my IDE is recognising these as a standdard method definition instead of using a prexisting method

[lone blade]

im not sure how to do that, sorry

[crisp gyro]

    public PlayerInput _playerInput;
...
    void Update(){
        if (_playerInput.actions["Drop"].triggered)
            {
                shootScript.DropWeapon();
            }
    }

[lone blade]

WAIT

I did it!

[crisp gyro]

how?

[lone blade]

Im a doofus and didn't change the mapping from player to UI

awhh god, sorry guys

[jagged wyvern]

🤷‍♂️

[lone blade]

I'm so bloody sorry

[crisp gyro]

well, this taught me that SendMessage() exists

[lone blade]

But thank you two for helping, the new input system seems hard to understand but seems like it would be beneficial learning

[crisp gyro]

the NIS has a learning curve that the old one didn't have

[lone blade]

oh yeah defiently

[glass yacht]

The old one had it's own curves, but you didn't have to face them immediately. Just implementing controllers without something like Rewired was nasty. I think the new one could go a long way if they helped indicate problems with state or setup like this

The inspector could have an indicator to show the active scheme is different for example

[crisp gyro]

I find it a bit overwhelming that there's at least 3 ways of doing the exact same thing

you just have to commit to unity messages, events, or polling

[glass yacht]

Agreed, it would be much nicer if the docs were better laid out to explain that too

[jagged wyvern]

docs are a mess

no nice way to say it

[glass yacht]

it feels like the top pages on the docs are just lists of migration you would never want to do

instead of just explaining the basics you have a list of garbage ways to use it

[crisp gyro]

that reminds me that a lot of the early tutorials went outdated within several months once the NIS got updated to 1.02

[jagged wyvern]

can't wait for the new new input system

[vestal crane]

When i try to type "using UnityEngine.InputManager;" in vs code, it puts a red bar under it and doesn't allow the program to run. I'm using the input system package, and have tried every fix i've seen online, including downgrading unity's vsc package and resetting csproj files, but nothing works. Does anyone know a fix?

[glad roost]

does anyone know how to add inputs for XR?
I tried finding a unity tutorial, but all I have found use the old Input system...
for instance my code would be like:
public void MenuSelectOverHands()
{
Debug.Log("Trigger on Oculus Pressed");
}

[austere grotto]

Never heard of that namespace. Did you mean UnityEngine.InputSystem?

[vestal crane]

Oh yea sorry that's what I meant

Nothing at all comes up when I type "input" tho

[austere grotto]

What are you expecting to come up when you type that?

[vestal crane]

Ok I'll just link the tutorial I was following

Give me a min to find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjee_e4fICc at around 9:57

this is what it looks like for me

[austere grotto]

And what's the error say?

[vestal crane]

Unnecessary using directive. [Assembly-CSharp]csharp(CS8019)
The type or namespace name 'InputSystem' does not exist in the namespace 'UnityEngine' (are you missing an assembly reference?) [Assembly-CSharp]csharp(CS0234)

[austere grotto]

Either

1. You haven't installed the input system package or
2. More likely, just an issue with VSCode syncing properly with Unity

If unity doesn't show that error too it's just a VSCode problem

Regenerate project files is the usual solution

But VSCode is known to be finicky

[vestal crane]

Yea it didnt do anything

[austere grotto]

Try checking some more of the boxes

[vestal crane]

Theyre all checked

[austere grotto]

Like local packages etc

Does unity show the error or not

[vestal crane]

it says that the compiler had an error so it cant run

[austere grotto]

What error

Look in your console window

[vestal crane]

same as in vsc. The type or namespace name 'InputSystem' does not exist in the namespace 'UnityEngine' (are you missing an assembly reference?)

[austere grotto]

Seems like the package isn't installed

[vestal crane]

Its absolotely installed lol

[austere grotto]

Show your package manager

[austere grotto]

Your error says input manager

So you've just spelled it wrong

Make sure you save the file

[vestal crane]

ok im an idiot but that still doesnt explain why vsc thinks its wrong

it does at least run

[austere grotto]

Because vsc is crappy lol

IDK

[vestal crane]

and 90 minutes later while not changing it at all, it suddenly thinks its fine now

ill take it

[remote mantle]

Player Controls Script: https://gdl.space/huluyepida.cs
Issue: Whenever I press the up arrow key while pressing the left or right arrow keys, the movement stops
Note: I am using invoke unity events

[waxen mica]

Hey, can someone help me figure out how to trigger events through toggle

[olive osprey]

I somehow cannot acces UnityEngine.InputSystem in C# script,anyone knows why ?

[foggy notch]

Have you installed it?

[olive osprey]

yes

i have set it up in projects setting as well

[foggy notch]

Have you been forced to restart since installing it

[olive osprey]

yes

[hallow solstice]

Can i get a bool from an inputaction to use it like GetButtonDown?

[foggy notch]

Show what your project settings say in the input section

[olive osprey]

you mean the Active Input Handling ?

its on Both, but i've tried it with the new one only as well

These ?

i tried reinstaling the New Input System and setting it to New Input System in the Active Input Handling and it worked. thx

[marsh harness]

old reply but, what code? xD

[sullen kelp]

that was a long old reply :/

[remote mantle]

Actually, I have made some progress but the up arrow now doesn't work.
Here is the updated code: https://gdl.space/ijihanawot.cs
Also, just in case anyone who looks at this wants to see my current settings here are some images down below

[remote mantle]

[torpid shard]

Why can I only press one key at once

actually I know why, just dont know the fix

[remote mantle]

for the 0s, substitute them to rb2D.velocity.y and rb2D.velocity.x

[torpid shard]

example?

[ebon merlin]

That is the example, using rb2D.velocity.x instead of 0 on the X, or .y for the Y

[torpid shard]

ah

[wispy birch]

im working with @torpid shard, and for some reason, i cant move with wasd

[ebon merlin]

Make sure you have the same scripts and objects, and everything assigned the same way

[remote mantle]

I haven't really made any progress solving this problem

[random shale]

Hey, hope everyone's well. I'm working on a local multiplayer tennis game where I'd like Player 1 to be able to control their character with WASD + Space or a controller, and Player 2 to be able to control their character with Arrow Keys + Ctrl. Currently I have a single action map (gameplay) with two actions (movement + swing) and two control schemes (Player 1 and Player 2), each with two devices (Keyboard and Gamepad).
Issue is, when I spawn in my PlayerInput object when a controller/part of the keyboard connects it's automatically set to only use the P1 (first) control scheme. Any way for this to happen automatically? Is this the wrong way to go about something like this? Would love to know y'all's thoughts :)

[candid bramble]

because both players are using the Input system

my solution was to just

completely disable those for the other players

[random shale]

not sure what you mean lmao

they both have different player input objects

[candid bramble]

try disabling each other's input objects. this may sound weird but it was also a problem on my game and disabling it fixed it for me

[random shale]

isn't that counter-productive?

I'm trying to get two separate players to use two separate control schemes

disabling them will mean I'll have zero players using zero control schemes

[candid bramble]

I don't know what is the most efficient way to solve this,
my solution was to just get the other player's object and disable the input manager on it.
it may be a dumb move and there is always a better way, but it worked for me

[random shale]

ah

thank you for your thoughts lmao

would like to know if there's a better way though if anyone would like to add ^^^

[remote mantle]

Player Controls Script: https://gdl.space/ijihanawot.cs
Issue: The left and right arrow keys work but the up arrow code does not work
Settings of Player Input is Down Below:

[zenith carbon]

hello, i have happened upon a bug and i was hoping that one of you have some fix to it. Player Input stops working on my non player objects (Currently just my ui), when editor starts, or after a build (build is also affected). Event system works fine. only removing it from the object and adding it anew fixes it. a copy of the object works as intended too. So far the only work around i could do is to have the player object send a message to the ui that a button has been pressed. I read forum posts from years ago with the same problem so i don't think waiting for a bug fix is viable.

Edit: seems like it is a switch of Player Input problem. apparently i haven't happened upon any discussion of that while learning how make games, nor in my googling.

[remote mantle]

Update: I forgot to save the asset but now only one key works at a time

[real crystal]

hi, tried to look it up but not found anything concrete, I'm wanting to read the value of a 1D composition from a CallbackContext

so for example, it's context.ReadValue<Vector2>() for a Vector2, I'm looking for the 1D equiv

[real crystal]

Got it, the answer is context.ReadValue<float>();

[torpid shard]

Can I detect for a double click?
With input system

For example I want to dash left when d is double clicked

[sudden lagoon]

So is there any other workaround about WebGL and input system bug (https://forum.unity.com/threads/new-input-system-not-working-in-webgl-builds.870421/)

As it still persistent if player object is added later, and not on start. It works correctly if it is spawned together with scene, but if it is spawned after (multiplayer or any spawning code), it will have this problem.

I thought moving code and input manager to Global object, but it becomes counter intuitive with multiple players.

[viral nymph]

I am confused by this new input system. If I have two gameobjects that want to listen for clicks, do I have to put the Player Input component on them both? Is it better to make a middle-man?

[austere grotto]

PlayerInput may not be the best option for you

[glass copper]

im not very familliar with unity, whats wrong with the old input system?

[austere grotto]

It's just not very flexible, has no runtime rebinding support, no event driven option, no local multiplayer support, and so on

[glass copper]

no local multiplayer support? so having a second set of inputs for player 2 wont work?

[austere grotto]

It will sorta but you do it all manually

[glass copper]

my game only has 2 players so that doesnt seem too bad

[austere grotto]

If you're a beginner you will probably have a somewhat easier time with the old system

[glass copper]

the thing i struggle with atm is making an automatic camera using kinematiccharactercontroller but thats to be discussed elsewhere

[quasi isle]

struggling to get key presses to work properly, since i got all my logic for everything split up in states
from my understanding i have to subscribe to the key input with a function but i want that function to be in one of my state classes rather than in the player where the inputaction object is stored
This is what I have currently, which doesn't seem to work

//In PlayerController

        public PlayerControls Controls { get; set; }

        public Action<InputAction.CallbackContext> DoDodge { get; set; }

        private void OnEnable()
        {
            Controls.Player.Dodge.performed += DoDodge;
            Controls.Player.Dodge.Enable();
        }
        
        private void Awake()
        {

            DoDodge = _ => { }; //Doing this so no NullReferenceException
        }

//In PlayerMovingState
        public override void EnterState(PlayerStateManager manager)
        {
            manager.Player.DoDodge = Dodge; //This doesn't seem to work
        }

        private void Dodge(InputAction.CallbackContext context)
        {
            Debug.Log("Dodging...");
            manager.SetState(manager.GetState("DodgingState"));
        }
        public override void ExitState(PlayerStateManager manager)
        {
            manager.Player.DoDodge = _ => { };
        }

I can't seem to use the dodge method in PlayerMovingState

sorry for the wall of text

[granite sun]

when using .triggered with a controller trigger it triggers multiple times while keyboard only triggers once. how could i make the controller trigger only trigger once in the code? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/497874004401586176/942862596426567690/2022-02-14_19-13-33.mp4

[outer verge]

What do you guys use to control input system, player input component with send messages, unity event or generate c# script? I saw many use the "generate scripts" way but I don't see any benefits from it than others.

[austere grotto]

When you reassign DoDodge you'd need to add that new one to the performed event too

Basically the delegate thing you're trying to do isn't going to work

[austere grotto]

Usually InpuActionReferences. So none of the above

[full gull]

how can i make so i can controll the mouse with right stick on gamepad

[stable coral]

https://answers.unity.com/questions/1701583/how-to-create-halo-like-split-screen-system.html is it possible to do this using the new input system?

sad that this has no answers yet

[jagged wyvern]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.3/api/UnityEngine.InputSystem.Mouse.html#UnityEngine_InputSystem_Mouse_WarpCursorPosition_Vector2_

inputsystem.mouse.WarpCursorPosition(Vector2 position)

[opaque rune]

does anyone know how to fix this error?

it was working perfectly fine the other day but now its giving me this

[jagged wyvern]

i believe there are two scripts called playercontrolls

idk tho

[opaque rune]

there shouldnt be tho

[hexed egret]

ok, so I have a simple issue. I have this function to handle input: ```csvoid MyInput()
{
horizontalMovement = Input.GetAxisRaw("Horizontal");
verticalMovement = Input.GetAxisRaw("Vertical");

    moveDirection = orientation.forward * verticalMovement + orientation.right * horizontalMovement;

    Debug.Log($"Jumps: {jumpsRemaining}. Key: down this frame {Input.GetKeyDown(jumpKey)}, is currently down {Input.GetKey(jumpKey)}");

    if (Input.GetKeyDown(jumpKey) && jumpsRemaining > 1)
    {
        print("The player should be jumping!");
        jumpsRemaining -= 1;
        // Jump
        Jump();

    }

    isCrouching = Input.GetKey(crouchKey);
}``` It is called every `Update()`.

My issue is, the if statement which calls the Jump() is not commencing even when jumpsRemaining is 2. This behaviour only occurs however, only if Input.GetKey(crouchKey); is true. I am very confused and I have no idea what to do. Any help would be appreciated

[small saffron]

I've got an on-screen joystick and an on-screen button. I can do them both individually without issue in Remote on my Pixel 4a, but when I use the OSB it makes the joystick stick for a bit.

Works
Mouse to move joystick in Game window + spacebar
Touch on Pixel to move joystick + spacebar on computer  works
WASD to move character + spacebar / click / button tap all work

Sticks
Mouse to move joystick + tap on button = sticks
Touch to move joystick + tap / click on button = sticks```

So anything that involves clicking/touching the on-screen button at the same time as clicking/touching the on-screen joystick is causing the joystick to stick for a few seconds.

I'm still digging on this and know the Remote 5 + new input system is wonky, but I'd appreciate any ideas.

[cyan marten]

How do i get the Vector2 position of the mouse with the new input system? I already created a value "MousePosition", how do i use it im my code?

[austere grotto]

Wdym by you "created a value"?

[delicate pollen]

Any obvious reason why the InputSystem isn't detecting my gamepad's right trigger during gameplay? It's an Afterglow 360 pad and I set it in the InputAction using 'listen', so it's definitely finding the input in Editor, but during Play mode I'm only occasionally getting a response while I'm holding and/or pressing the trigger.

[austere grotto]

how are you trying to read the data from it

what's your Input Action setup and your code

[delicate pollen]

controls.BipedMovement.fwdInputRaw.started += ctx => fwdInputRaw = ctx.ReadValueAsButton();
controls.BipedMovement.fwdInputRaw.canceled += ctx => fwdInputRaw = ctx.ReadValueAsButton();

Actually, maybe I should be using Performed...

• sigh * Yep, performed works perfectly, thanks. =)

[graceful echo]

so trying to follow this video about the new unity input system and for some reason my right click menu doesnt have a bunch of the options his does. the tutorial man is on the top mine is bottom

kind of need that

ok another tutorial man showed i had to go to "value" instead of "button" and set the control type to Vector 2

[graceful echo]

is "save asset" just gone now?

like this tutorial was from this month

[graceful echo]

oh its disabled when pressing auto save i guess. odd i thought i saw tutorial man have both available unless i just didnt notice

[sudden lagoon]

Question. Can in one scene there be two PlayerInput? one on character with Default map of Player, and one on UI with defautl map of UI. Or There should be some other way to handle it?

[royal solstice]

Hello! I connected a new input system and used it in the project. But now when I tried to install the "Joystick" package or use the Button in the canvas, I get the error "... switched active Input handling to Input System package in Player Settings."
So the new input system doesn't work with "Joystick" and Canvas?

[austere grotto]

Can you show the full error?

[royal solstice]

InvalidOperationException: You are trying to read Input using the UnityEngine.Input class, but you have switched active Input handling to Input System package in Player Settings. UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseInput.GetButtonDown (System.String buttonName) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.ugui@1.0.0/Runtime/EventSystem/InputModules/BaseInput.cs:126) UnityEngine.EventSystems.StandaloneInputModule.ShouldActivateModule () (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.ugui@1.0.0/Runtime/EventSystem/InputModules/StandaloneInputModule.cs:227) UnityEngine.EventSystems.EventSystem.Update () (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.ugui@1.0.0/Runtime/EventSystem/EventSystem.cs:474)

[austere grotto]

It's because you haven't switched the StandaloneInputModule component on your Event System to the new input module

[royal solstice]

When I installed a new input system through the Package manager, a message appeared during installation that the system would switch to the new one. And the old methods stopped working. So I thought the new system was already enabled. Where should it be enabled?

[austere grotto]

I told you the issue

Go to your EventSystem

upgrade your input module

The new input system is enabled just fine

[royal solstice]

Thanks! I now understand where it is. What about Joystick (Free asset from store)? Does it only work on the old system?

[austere grotto]

No idea, check the page for it and/or contact the publisher

The new input system includes an on-screen joystick feature already though so you shouldn't need any such asset

[royal solstice]

I did not know about it. And where can I read about the built-in joystick? I watched video tutorials, they used this asset(Joystick), so I wanted to use it. But if there is a built-in it's even better.

[austere grotto]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.3/manual/OnScreen.html#on-screen-sticks

[crimson crater]

Is there some kind of unique identifier for Input Devices that stays the same even if they get disconnected then reconnected? I tried the deviceID but it changed when I tried that with a controller

[crimson crater]

Nvm, apparently no

[candid bramble]

xRotation = 0f;
xClamp = 85f;
void update()
{
        RotateViewHorizontal(mouseInput); //rotates mouse

        Player.Rotate(Vector3.up, mouseX * Time.deltaTime);

        xRotation -= mouseY;
        xRotation = Mathf.Clamp(xRotation, -xClamp, xClamp);
        Vector3 targetRotation = CamRotator.transform.eulerAngles;
        targetRotation.x = xRotation;
        CamRotator.transform.eulerAngles = targetRotation;
}
void RotateViewHorizontal(vector2 mouseInput)
{
mouseX = MouseInput.x * SensitivityX;
        mouseY = MouseInput.y * SensitivityY;

        Player.Rotate(Vector3.up, mouseX * Time.deltaTime);
}

When trying to lock the mouse input for the y value it locks also for the x 🤦🏻‍♂️
anyone knows why?

specifically if xRotation -= mouseY; exist than it works for the y axys, but if its marked as a comment it works only for the x. :(

[austere grotto]

can you copy your actual code - this is not it.

[candid bramble]

After many changes to check things and test it, it is a little spaghetti but I can organize it if you want:

//Inputs
    public InputMaster Director;

    //PlayerMovement

    //MouseLook
    public float SensitivityX = 8f;
    public float SensitivityY = 0.5f;
    float mouseX, mouseY;

    float xClamp = 85f; //Lock Rotation
    float xRotation = 0f;

    [SerializeField] GameObject CamRotator;
    [SerializeField] Transform Player;

    Vector2 mouseInput;
    private void Awake()
    {
        Director = new InputMaster();
        

        Director.Player.MouseX.performed += ctx => mouseInput.x = ctx.ReadValue<float>();
        Director.Player.MouseY.performed += ctx => mouseInput.y = ctx.ReadValue<float>();
        Debug.Log("Done Orginizing Controls");
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        MouseLook();
        Player.Rotate(Vector3.up, mouseX * Time.deltaTime);
    }
    void MouseLook()
    {
        RotateViewHorizontal(mouseInput);
        RotateViewVertical();
    }
    void RotateViewHorizontal(Vector2 MouseInput)
    {
        mouseX = MouseInput.x * SensitivityX;
        mouseY = MouseInput.y * SensitivityY;
    }
    void RotateViewVertical()
    {
        xRotation -= mouseY;
        xRotation = Mathf.Clamp(xRotation, -xClamp, xClamp);
        Vector3 targetRotation = transform.eulerAngles;
        targetRotation.x = xRotation;
        CamRotator.transform.eulerAngles = targetRotation;  
    }
    private void OnEnable()
    {
        Director.Enable();
    }

after following this tutorial: (from 18:57) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXDgSGOEatk

[stable coral]

Okay so i have an issue atm. For my local multi i want to make it so that only one player at the time can select a character instead of making it so all players can select at the same time since i need the whole screen to be used so doing some split screen things wouldn’t be so nice. Is there a way to disable inputs from all players except for the one who is actually selecting a character?

I feel like it’s extremly basic but i’ve been extremly confused lately

Now that i think about it, maybe disabling the PlayerInput component on each player through FindObjectsOfType (except for the one who is selecting a character) would work? And then re-enabling it when the player is done

Still unsure on how to check WHO is selecting though, could be anyone and it could randomly disable the selectors controlls. So yeah, any ideas?

[wanton egret]

hey guys

Unity's new input system has 4 ways to listen and trigger actions as per some button bindings.
Send messages, Bordcast messages, invoke unity events, and invoke c# events.
Which ones do you prefer ?

[austere grotto]

The new input system has a lot more ways than that

That's just the 4 modes of the PlayerInput component

which is itself only one of many possible approaches

I typically prefer to use InputActionReference and deal with InputActions in my code directly - either subscribing to events or polling in Update, depending on the use case

[wanton egret]

wow in documentation. I didn't really saw any other method of these approaces

[wanton egret]

can you elaborate this part

either subscribing to events or polling in Update,

sorry I am quite new into this. so there's still some confusion

[austere grotto]

There's also the generated C# file, defining raw InputActions on your MonoBehaviours, Using an InputActionAsset reference directly, creating inputActions etc. dynamically in code. The list goes on

[austere grotto]

inputAction has events you can subscribe to:
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.3/api/UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputAction.html#events

Or you can read its value directly:
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.3/api/UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputAction.html#UnityEngine_InputSystem_InputAction_ReadValue__1

[wanton egret]

oh in that sense. I got it. I thought it to be something else

I am pretty sure. I am missing something very silly here.

But I need one more help.
I've one input action asset and a script file defining player movements.

If I decide to follow events way, the idea is to select the method which will be called from that script file during run time for some particular context.
Thing is, for some reason it is not at all detecting any methods from my script file.
For the sake of this problem. I have all my methods public

Any suggestions on how to handle this ?

[austere grotto]

You dragged the script itself into that slot, which is not correct

you need to drag the object that has the script attached to it into that slot

Also, the functions need to take an InputAction.CallbackContext parameter. Right now you have them taking no parameters.

[wanton egret]

Thank you very much
Today I was checking out CodeMonkey Tutorial on using this inputsystem.
And instead of adding object I added script
I made this mistake there.

[brave burrow]

is 2d vector no longer an option for the input binding system?

[austere grotto]

It's still an option

What makes you think not?

[brave burrow]

I remember it being an option in a project I was working on in the past 2 weeks but now I can't find it

[austere grotto]

It needs to be a Vector2 action before you can add a 2D composite binding

value/Vector2

Action Type : Value
Control Type: Vector2

[brave burrow]

ohhhhh

ty

very new to this lol

[jagged wyvern]

I notice a pattern in the questions we get here

[stable coral]

too bad none of the more complex stuff gets asked though so it's more difficult to find answers about em

i prolly should read the documentation a bit more but i doubt it will help a lot

[jagged wyvern]

if the simple stuff was well documented then we wouldn't have to keep getting questions about the same things

[stable coral]

^^

[jagged wyvern]

unity needs to get someone from the community to help them write more beginner friendly guides

unfortunately though it feels like they abandoned the new input system

[stable coral]

i feel like the documentation in general is just a bit too empty,

wait what?

ffs

[jagged wyvern]

they think it's complete and doesn't need to be revised

[stable coral]

well fuck, i guess i gotta invent my own logic then

for example one thing i do dislike is split screen with 3 players. feels like i gotta manually set it up

because it will always be one empty window in the corner which is not so nice, so i gotta manually set the camera view for each player instead

which i dont want to do, but i can find a solution anywhere, yet this has been asked before too

https://answers.unity.com/questions/1701583/how-to-create-halo-like-split-screen-system.html

[naive oriole]

hi i have a question with the new input system, im using this method but i was wondering is there something equivalent to the opposite of IsPressed?

[stable coral]

”!value.isPressed”?

Without the ? And ” ofc

[naive oriole]

it doesnt look like it triggers, im looking for something that triggers after the button has been pressed, a key release to be exact

[jagged wyvern]

make another input action with a release interaction

[naive oriole]

aight, new to unity but not ue4 so any help is appreciated lol
thanks will take a look

[mental musk]

If I have 2 control schemes, one for Ps4 gamepads and one for gamepads generally, Unity will pick PS4 when I plug in a PS4 controller right? Not gamepad because it's a type of gamepad?

[delicate pollen]

Hey folks - I'm using the new InputSystem and I'm subscribing to InputAction events with a lambda in order to get player input.

controls.BipedMovement.MoveWalk.performed   += ctx => moveInputRaw  = ctx.ReadValue<Vector2>();

Normally I'd try to unsubscribe from events in Unity, as afaik it's one of the only ways to create memory leaks in Unity. However, I can't really do that with a lambda, and the alternative appears to be writing a bunch of methods to register to the separate events which is going to involve a ton of me repeating myself and seemingly pointless busywork.

Is it possible to just leave the lambdas subscribed without risking unsafe Unity behavior, or do I need to build a ton of slightly-different bespoke methods?
(Related Unity Forum thread: https://forum.unity.com/threads/using-inheritance-for-tidiness-eg-registering-with-inputaction-events.1241395/#post-7903231)

[austere grotto]

Hey it's me!

[delicate pollen]

Ah, it's yourself!

I was kinda hoping I might see you here. =)

[austere grotto]

So the real risk here is if your controls object is more long lived than this script, then when this script is destroyed (either by explicitly destroying it or during a scene load), then you will have these leaked subscribers. SO yeah you will have a memory leak in that case

[jagged wyvern]

isn't there a performed.clear

[austere grotto]

But since you're creating the controls inside the script itself, that's not a real worry

Since controls itself will be garbage collected at the same time this object is

[delicate pollen]

Soooo, if I'd created the 'controls' object somewhere else, then... aaaahhh. I getcha.

[austere grotto]

So you only need to worry if you're sharing controls with some other object, but it seems to be private so yea

[delicate pollen]

So actually I can just subscribe with lambdas in OnEnable and it'll get cleaned up when the object that contains the script that created controls is destroyed.

Can I get a quick thumbs up on my last statement there? Otherwise, thank you, @austere grotto , I've been tying myself into a bit of a pickle with this whole thing and you've straightened that right out.

[austere grotto]

yeah this is pretty safe as long as you don't share that controls object around outside this script

[delicate pollen]

I'll keep that in mind. The plan is that it would be unique per player (and atm I'm only planning for one player on this game).

(I had visions of basically quadrupling my input script size. 0_o)

[austere grotto]

You might also consider a slightly different approach instead of going event-based. Like instead of having these fields that you update via events you could just get the values on demand, which is how you're doing it anyway. Like:

public class InputHandler : MonoBehaviour {
    private PlayerControls controls;
    public Vector2 MoveInputRaw => controls.BipedMovement.MoveWalk.ReadValue<Vector>();
    public bool RunInputRaw => controls.BipedMovement.RunModifier.ReadValue<float> != 0;
    public float FwdInputRaw => controls.BipedMovement.fwdInputRaw.ReadValue<float>();
 
    void Awake()
    {
        controls            = new PlayerControls();
    }
 
    void OnEnable()
    {
        controls.Enable();
    }
}```

This may simplify things a lot

Since you're only going to read that data on-demand in your other scripts anyway

[granite apex]

Is it wrong to declare InputActionReference in several MonoBehaviour components and then drag&drop the same InputActionReference from InputActions asset to setup controls?

I'm trying to remove the dependency from the Input Manager and isolate components such as Camera Manager, Menu Navigation Manager, etc.

[austere grotto]

nope it's not a problem

The only thing you should be aware of is that they will all share the enabled/disabled state for those actions and action maps

[granite apex]

But that's the point if I use WASD to move camera and navigate the pause menu. As for enabling/disabling, I thought that it's the responsibility of each manager to know when no to read input, correct?

[stable coral]

uh how do i convert from InputAction to InputActionRefrence?

[old matrix]

So I am trying to get the mouseposition for my camera looking around, and while it works, it stops as soon as my cursor hits the borders of my screen. Is there a way I can avoid that? (I could use Delta mouse but that's really jittery because half of the inputs are 0, for some reason.)

[austere grotto]

The only reason to need to do this would be if you were making an editor tool

[stable coral]

oh.. i was just trying to assign these through code

[austere grotto]

You should use mouse delta, which works fine in Update or as an event

[austere grotto]

for an input module?

[stable coral]

yes

[austere grotto]

Why do you need to assign them in code?

For rebinding?

[stable coral]

oh hang on i thought it was dependent on certain components, i guess i can just leave it premade in the scene

[stable coral]

this sounds interesting, elaborate please

[austere grotto]

I just thought maybe you were trying to rebind the input actions that correspond to these things in your menu or something, that's the only reason i could imagine someone trying to set these in code

[stable coral]

ah

how would i do that then?

(in case i need it for future purposes)

[austere grotto]

There's an "interactive rebinding" feature

It will let you change the bindings for a given InputAction at runtime

I've never really used it yet

[stable coral]

ah i see

[old matrix]

how do I smooth it out so it's not so jittery

[austere grotto]

It shouldn't be jittery unless you're doing something you shouldn't like multiplying by deltaTime

[shut tiger]

Hello guys, we are working in a new project at the office, with the Input system but we are facing an issue, the guy in charge of it configured it, it is working great on his end, but he pushed it all to git after retriveing it on our side to try it also The input system seems bugged and don't find any of the Devices we have

anyone have an idea ?

here is all the screenshot with what could be "interesting" for you to help me investigate or give me a clue about it

OK .... seems like i found a bug

the issue was when recompiling the project from git when it's already started (and importing the inputmanager in that said pull)

devices are not being detected

i had to restart Unity

to make it work

[gleaming oar]

best resource I've found is https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.0/manual/HowDoI.html

[stable coral]

Is it possible through an ui button to see which player is clicking it? For example if player 3 clicks on a ”select character” button or ”change teams” button, how do i make it so that it knows player 3 did so?

[sleek pasture]

Input System's InputActionAsset = new InputActionAsset() limited to one time use? I can't have multiple GameObjects with this command?

[delicate pollen]

Just saw your note, that works a treat! I imagine this is a typo, but in case you send this to others, the line starting 'public bool RunInputRaw' should be (I assume),

public bool        runInputRaw     => controls.BipedMovement.RunModifier.ReadValue<float>() != 0.0f;

Much appreciated.

[austere grotto]

That line of code has nothing to do with GameObjects

[viscid garden]

Using the new input system, I am finding that when pressing multiple WASD keys at once to drive the rigidbody, I get wonky results. Like it doesn't care what keys I press when 2 or 3 keys are pressed together. I am using a vector2 composite.

movementVector comes from the Callbackcontext

Any advice?

[austere grotto]

how and where are you calling "Move" and with what data?

[viscid garden]

Looks like it was acting funky because each new button press was adding more force, and replacing addforce with just setting the velocity directly fixed it. But to answer your question:

Inputsystem fires C# event with Vector2, then that subscribing method fires an event that calls Move with Context.ReadValue<Vector2>

If you know a better way than using that if statement in my MoveKeyHandler function btw, i'm all ears. I could have sworn there was a way to use one event and then use the context to determine performed vs cancelled.

This is my first time using the new input system, watched a bunch of videos but obvious gaps in my knowledge here.

[austere grotto]

Yeah AddForce in response to the event is not right because of what you said

But you're kinda overcomplicating this by going event-based for a continuous input like a movement vector

void Awake() {
  _playerInputActions = new PlayerInputActions();
  _playerInputActions.Enable();
}

void Update() {
  OnMovement?.Invoke(_playerInputActions.Player.Movement.ReadValue<Vector2>());
}```

[viscid garden]

So you're not actually subscribing to the key/input events

You're just checking every frame to see if the vector has changed, which is basically the same thing?

Am I understanding you properly?

[austere grotto]

Yes

I'm not even checking if it changed

just reading it every frame

honestly this might be even better:

void Awake() {
  _playerInputActions = new PlayerInputActions();
  _playerInputActions.Enable();
}

public Vector2 CurrentMovementInput => _playerInputActions.Player.Movement.ReadValue<Vector2>();```

Using events makes more sense for a button or something

for a joystick-style continuous input thing, I think it's cleaner to just poll it

[viscid garden]

I think I am doing what you just posted, only difference is that I have a input script and a movement script, so the event is important for me to communicate between scripts.

Thanks a lot for helping me simplify my code.

[austere grotto]

Your movement script is already subscribing to the event, so the relationship is already that the movement script knows about the input script, but not vice versa

with this setup, the movement script can just as easily read the public property as it can subscribe to the event

[viscid garden]

Ah I didn't see it was public. I thought you were just thinking this was operating within one script.

[austere grotto]

Nah I realized due to your event usage

[viscid garden]

I often struggle with 'best practices' when it comes to trying to get data from 1 script to another script. In this case they're both on the same gameobject so are you suggesting I do this?

Those are the two scripts

In my limited time programming, 'best practices' hangs over my head like a curse. This here makes me think "Oh no, playermovement is tightly coupled with playerinputmanager. bad practices!" so please let me know what you think

[austere grotto]

Yeah that looks good

Subscribing to the event is just as tight a coupling

[viscid garden]

Yeah I suppose you're right. I feel like events were touted as the solution to tight coupling, but then I don't know how you subscribe without knowing who's broadcasting😦

Thanks again

[stable coral]

Is there a list on which devices are supported? the listenting function wont listen to my logitech extreme 3d pro for some reason

however i can join with it, which is odd

uh nvm

i dont think it recognises all of the buttons though which sucks

edit: it does and i mapped out all of the buttons so now i know what button corresponds to what input

[blissful comet]

How might I set up an action for movement such that it's controlled either by a joystick on a gamepad or mouse movement while the right mouse button is held? I can see how to add a modifier to a button, but not sure how to do so with an axis. Would I just need to have it be a separate button and check for it in code before calling anything subscribed to Aim?

[gleaming oar]

you could have a certain control setup with whatever functionality you want and only enable it when the right mouse button is held

have your first control enable the second set of controls

[blissful comet]

Ah, I never actually thought of having conditional .Enable and .Disable calls, that seems like the perfect solution. Also, Delta [Mouse] is what I want to use to emulate "Mouse X" and "Mouse Y" in the old input system, right?

[gleaming oar]

yeah that will track the change in position of the mouse on both axes

[blissful comet]

All right, thanks 👍

Oh, and I could even avoid having to detect whether it's keyboard or mouse by binding all directions of the joystick to that action as well, huh? Then moving the joystick would also enable the joystick aiming

I'll have to see if that works out once I finish converting over all this old Input system code...

[gleaming oar]

what I have been doing is building out controls for both mouse and other input methods and enabling both on startup, so either could be used or they could be used simultaneously...I might put in an intermediate manager that enables/disables an input method based on whatever criteria I think fits switching over...not sure how I might do that

[stable coral]

uh big problem.. ish

so i got these 2 bindings. one is a 2d vector (kb/controller) and the second one is for my joystick which is an axis

how would i make it so that they can work in the same method?

[viscid garden]

Is delta mouse what I want to get the direction to fire a bullet from the player for a top down shooter?

[austere grotto]

No you'd probaby want the direction vector from your player position to the current mouse position projected into the game world

so to start - you want mouse position not delta

[stable coral]

nvm fixed this

[blissful comet]

I think I have misunderstood something about actions. I have this binding here. From what I understood, I could subscribe to performed and the code in there would run while the button is held, and the canceled would run when you release it. I'm not able to get any canceled event to run. Did I set something up wrong? Or misunderstand what the interactions do?

Yeah, just getting rid of the interaction seems to give me the behavior I want. What does canceled mean for a Hold interaction then?

[austere grotto]

Perform will run after .1 seconds. Not sure how canceled works but isn't it documented in the manual?

[gleaming oar]

the interactions don't really work for me either, so if I want a delayed input I have to use a coroutine

[viscid garden]

ty

[spark pumice]

I believe it triggers when you release between started and performed. That's just based on my memory, though, not testing specifically.

[viscid garden]

I'm trying to make it so my top down shooter, when played with a gamepad, has a reticle you can move around with the right stick. I believe the best bet is a virtual mouse, but i'm struggling between editing the virtual mouse with the real mouse, as I want you to be able to switch between control schemes as will and have the mouse position and the virtual mouse position to remain the same.

Any advice? I know there's a OnControlsChanged event but I don't use PlayerInput class/component, so I get it by checking context.control.device on each device I have setup.

I feel like the moment I add a virtual mouse, Mouse.current becomes the virtual mouse and I don't know how to get the normal mouse back.

[odd hill]

  //public void OnLook(InputAction.CallbackContext context)
{
    lookVector = context.RealValue<vector2>();
}

public void Rotate()
{
    rotate.y += lookVector + lookSensitivity * Time.deltaTime;
    transform.localEulerAngles = rotation;
}

public void OnJump(InputAction.CallbackContext context)
{
    if (characterController.isGrounded && context.performed)
    {
        animator.Play("Jump");
        // Jump();
    }
}

    private void Jump()
    {
        verticalVelocity = Mathf.sqrt(jumpHeight * gravity);
    }
} 

it says something in my code is using the old input system when I set my project settings to the new input system

this is part of the code

[fleet pasture]

I'm trying to hook up Unity's new input system. And when I stuck the script onto my my player input component and clicked on the little dropdown menu the only thing that popped up was monoscript and let me make a string. I double checked and this code appears to be correct. But it still won't work. I am confused plz help.

[jagged wyvern]

drag the game object

[austere grotto]

It's not this code. It's probably because you didn't upgrade your StandaloneInputModule to an InputSystemUIInputModule on your Event System.

[austere grotto]

you dragged the wrong thing into the slot, like Hamboy said. Drag the object that has the script attached to it, not the script itself

[viscid garden]

Got a few questions regarding my understanding of how the input system works.

So i've got this.

And if I type something like:

_playerInputActions.Player.AimLook.ReadValue<Vector2>

Which one is it going to get?

From my understanding, all 3 of those can have a vector2

[spark pumice]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.0/manual/ActionBindings.html

Read the section on disambiguation toward the bottom of the page

[bronze ridge]

how do i check if only one button has been pressed instead of both?

public bool isAiming { get { return (playerInput.input.locomotion.MouseButton.IsPressed()); }}

for example this just returns true if either one is pressed

but i want isAiming to be true only if the RMB is pressed

do i need to create a different action for each separate button?

[mortal swift]

Oh my gosh, I've just been on the weirdest goose chase in my life.
I basically have figured out that with my G502, if this setting here which appears to be the default setting is set, the mouse movement in the FPS core template (and even just a normal inputsystem delta based rotation in a blank project) is extremely jittery.
But if the rate is turned down to 125, that works as expected - and plugging in a regular office mouse also appears to work normally.

It's literally just a fresh install of 2020.3.29f1, freshly downloaded "First Person Core" project, with all G502 hub settings restored to the default, at 800 DPI, including the report rate at 1k - jittery and useless.

I'm going out on a limb here but has anyone around here had issues with anything like this lmao?

[mortal ridge]

Not an input system question

[mortal swift]

Sorry I feel like it's pretty directly correlated - this occurs specifically in unity only, specifically with the input system only.

It appears the high poling rate on this mouse breaks the reading of the delta

[mortal ridge]

It's Not a code related question

[mortal swift]

Of course it is. Obviously the polling rate is changing how the inputsystem processes the mouse delta InputAction. What I'm asking, is if anyone else has had any issues related to mouse polling rates causing the delta read by Unity's inputsystem to jitter/skip values, and if so what actions could be taken to ensure a smooth experience even on a high poll rate mouse.

The channel does also say "Discuss anything related to Unity's input system"

[mortal ridge]

This is still not a code related question.

The channel is also under the scripting topic

[mortal swift]

Okay, well I'll let a mod sort that out with me if I've broken a rule ☺

https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/editor-slows-down-when-rapidly-moving-mouse-with-high-polling-rate-in-play-mode
aha looks like it is a bug in LTS after all

[mortal ridge]

see. no need to put this unrelated issue into this scripting channel

[mortal swift]

doesn't that really prove it was an input system and code related issue the entire time haha

like I said friend, if you'd like to ask a mod to caution me or what have you that's just fine, otherwise you are welcome to ignore my posts until your heart is content

I would still like to have a discussion with anyone who knows a bit deeper how the input system's internals play with mouse polling rates, but if that's anyone feel free to DM me as apparently that isn't welcome here lol

[mortal ridge]

has nothing to do with user code

[spark pumice]

The purpose of the input system design is that your action (what you've called "MouseButton") corresponds to a single action in the game. I would create an "Aim" action that is only bound to RMB, and have a different action with LMB bound to it named appropriately (maybe "Fire"?).

You could figure out which button is pressed with your current setup, but it would be overly complicated and making a clearer InputAction setup closer to how it is designed to work will just be less of a headache.

[bronze ridge]

alright ill do that, thanks for clearing it up

[delicate pollen]

Just wanted to check something @austere grotto - putting a Lambda into a variable means that the function is only run when the variable is requested, right? Making sure I understand this...! (Following up from your recent advice regards getting InputAction data through vars)

[mortal ridge]

yes. EVERY time the variable is requested

[delicate pollen]

Ah, that's useful @mortal ridge ,thank you!

[glass yacht]

You haven't broken any rules. While this channel is under the scripting category, it's not because you can only ask scripting questions here, it's because it's the most common use for the channel.

[sinful warren]

So i'm making a co op game with the new player input and i got it to work but when i get another prefab to join Im controlling both

    public void ProcessMove(Vector2 input)
    {
        Vector3 moveDirection = Vector3.zero;
        moveDirection.x = input.x;
        moveDirection.z = input.y;
        controller.Move(transform.TransformDirection(moveDirection) * speed * Time.deltaTime);
        playerVelocity.y += gravity * Time.deltaTime;
        if (isGrounded && playerVelocity.y < 0)
            playerVelocity.y = -2f;
        controller.Move(playerVelocity * Time.deltaTime);
        Debug.Log(playerVelocity.y);
    }

    public void ProcessMove(InputAction.CallbackContext ctx) => movementInput = ctx.ReadValue<Vector2>();```

[odd hill]

I did and its still not working

can anyone help me

{
    lookVector = context.RealValue<vector2>();
}

public void Rotate()
{
    rotate.y += lookVector + lookSensitivity * Time.deltaTime;
    transform.localEulerAngles = rotation;
}

public void OnJump(InputAction.CallbackContext context)
{
    if (characterController.isGrounded && context.performed)
    {
        animator.Play("Jump");
        // Jump();
    }
}

    private void Jump()
    {
        verticalVelocity = Mathf.sqrt(jumpHeight * gravity);
    }
} ```
 
it says something in my code is using the old input system when I set my project settings to the new input system
this is part of the code

[austere grotto]

Show a screenshot of your event system.
And show the full error message

The error message will show which file and line number the problem is happening at.

[rose hearth]

I am using GetAxis("Mouse X") but it kinda steps the movement, as if the mouse delta was in integers. Is this a preblem with the gravity, sensitivity and dead settings ?

[hybrid umbra]

Can I read mouse scroll wheel as button?

[granite apex]

You mean Mouse.current.middleButton.isPressed?

[hybrid umbra]

I want events that triggers when the mouse scroll wheel is scrolled up or down

For a certain amount

[willow violet]

Has anyone replaced EventSystems for interfacing with new Input? i.e. making Input work with UnityUI, or with general GameObjects, etc.

I kept running into major bugs when using new Input with EventSystems, and started reading all the source code. After a week of analysis and debugging, I've come to the conclusion that I can replace the entire thing with something a lot easier to use, that's actually extensible (most of EventSystems isn't - and it makes it artificially difficult to extend parts of Input) ... and that won't have any of the bugs :).

But it seems like I must be missing something here - surely someone else has already done this?

[granite apex]

Huh. You can use 1DAxis, and combine .started listener with ReadValue() to check the amount of scrolling.

[distant glacier]

Hi guys. Please, I need some help with my problem. I want to create infinite bouncing ball in 3D, but there is a problem. After few bounces, bounce height is lower and lower .. any ideas ?

[willow violet]

Not related to input, but ... I assume you're using physics to do the bounce, in which case: stop using physics to do the bounce, do it in code. Make the position.y follow the first half of a sin-wave, and it will look exactly like a bounce.

[distant glacier]

thank you.. sorry i didnt know where to put this question

[austere grotto]

Make sure you're reading it in Update and you're not multiplying by deltaTime

[median geode]

I have a TapInteraction on a WASD action, that should output a directional vector2, which it does for any other interaction than TapInteraction. Does anyone have any idea why it might fail to output anything other than the null vector?

My only guess currently is that the time for it to register an input is longer than the tap duration, but I don't seem to be able to solve this.

[upbeat cape]

Hello, did anybody had problem with custom cursor not loading properly at build? In editor it works fine but in builded game its a pixaleted mess like in the image

[austere grotto]

And the error? (The full error)

[viscid garden]

Do you guys typically use value or passthrough?

[mortal ridge]

Value. Passthrough is supposed to be used rarely

[flat blaze]

Am I able to use the normal input manager instead of Input System package without effecting scripts on the FPS preset and if so, how?

nvm

[delicate pollen]

Hey folks, attempting to get a Left Click from my mouse via a lambda... and failing. Code and screenshot follow...
[HideInInspector]public bool MouseLeftClick => controls.BipedMovement.MouseLeftClickOnce.ReadValue<float>() != 0.0f;

Tried it with a straight Bool in the ReadValue, but that didn't work either.

[untold gulch]

Why not controls.BipedMovement.MouseLeftClickOnce.WasPressedThisFrame()?

Though if you only want this to be a mouse click, why set up an action for it? You can do Mouse.current.leftButton.wasPressedThisFrame

[delicate pollen]

Why not indeed * 2! =D

I'll give that a try in a minute, thank you...!

[untold gulch]

No problem

[delicate pollen]

Just checking, is there any reason to not use Mouse.current.leftbutton.wasPressedThisFrame?

[untold gulch]

If all you want is to check for a left mouse click, I don't see any reason not to use it

Just keep in mind that Mouse.current will be null if there is no mouse (like on a console or mobile device)

[delicate pollen]

Just thinking, I might also want to have a tap from a touch-screen do the same thing.

[untold gulch]

For that there's Touchscreen.current.press.wasPressedThisFrame, I think

But of course, you'd need to check for Touchscreen.current being null

So if you want to easily support both mouse and touchscreen, then in that instance I think an action might make sense

[delicate pollen]

Right, so... I need to wrap the references to the variables in a check for null...

Yeah, that was my thought.

Basically I'm hoping to get the same outcome.

[untold gulch]

In which case this should work ^

[delicate pollen]

10-4! Thank you!

[untold gulch]

Np!

[sinful warren]

Im having a problem where when I spawn to players in the controller/keyboard controls both characters

[viscid garden]

How do you differentiate between a virtual mouse and the hardware mouse? I find that after I create a virtual mouse, Mouse.current is always the virtual mouse, even when im waving around my hardware mouse.

[untold gulch]

Mouse.current.layout == "VirtualMouse"?

I'm not aware of any other way, since the built-in virtual mouse stuff just extends the regular mouse class

Specifically https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/InputSystem/blob/develop/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem/InputSystem/Plugins/UI/UISupport.cs

Looks like that's how Unity's own test code checks it too:

Checking for the hardware mouse should be if (Mouse.current.native)

[viscid garden]

Ty

[odd hill]

I can’t show it cuz my player movement script isn’t working like I can’t open it

I don’t know why

I thought it was cuz I needed to update my visual studio code

But it’s not letting me update that either

This was the error I think

Yeah

[untold gulch]

Why are these photos instead of screenshots lol

Press + Shift + S to activate the snipping tool and then drag over a section of your screen, then you can paste it in chat

Anyway, that error is because you have the old input system disabled. You need to go into Edit -> Project Settings -> Player -> Active Input Handling and set it to "Both"

[austere grotto]

That's not the right fix

[untold gulch]

The "right" fix is to use the new input system everywhere, sure

[austere grotto]

Yes

[untold gulch]

But they wanted to know the cause of the error

[austere grotto]

Anyway the highlighted error (MisdingMethodException) is due to using PlayerInput with SendMessages mode without implementing OnMove.

The other error we can't say the source of because you're not showing the full error for that one

[viscid garden]

Why is it that:
if (context.control.device == Gamepad.current)
returns true when using the left stick but not the right stick?

[untold gulch]

Try logging context.control.device.path

[viscid garden]

Thanks.

I'm tinkering with a virtual mouse to try to get a cursor on right stick and i'm way over my head.

Turns out when I use right stick its no longer the controller but the virtual mouse

[untold gulch]

I suppose that makes sense -- while the virtual mouse is active that would prevent "game" inputs going through

So you wouldn't start making your character look around with a menu up or something

If you're using the VirtualMouseInput component, iirc there's a property on it that allows you to disable the virtual mouse when you don't need a cursor

cursorMode, that's it

Or not, my bad -- instead you should be able to just disable the component

Which will disable the virtual mouse device and restore the gamepad + hardware mouse

[viscid garden]

So i'm quite new to the input system and i'm not using any components, just the C# Class

[untold gulch]

https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/InputSystem/blob/develop/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem/InputSystem/Plugins/UI/VirtualMouseInput.cs

Referring to this

and the docs page https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.3/api/UnityEngine.InputSystem.UI.VirtualMouseInput.html

I'd recommend using that if you aren't already, it handles a lot of the functionality for you

[viscid garden]

Should I be using a virtual mouse for this? Let me explain my use case.

I have a top down shooter and I have an aiming sprite. I want to control this aiming sprite either with mouse or right stick on a gamepad. I don't think i'll want the player to navigate UI ever with the right stick, only with the D-pad up/down arrows and such (or mouse/keyboard of course).

[untold gulch]

In that case I wouldn't personally use a virtual mouse

I'd just treat the stick input as movement

I'd only really use a virtual mouse as a temporary alternative to implementing full controller support in UI

[viscid garden]

I was mostly following a tutorial that I think was based around virtual mouse and using a gamepad to click on canvas elements.

I'm going to try your suggestion.

I think I need some sort of intro course on the new input system, I am not skilled enough to read class files on github for instruction, and docs are a little tough sometimes too.

[untold gulch]

That's understandable, the new input system is vastly superior to the old one and it's really nice when everything clicks, but there's definitely a lack of concise documentation on how to get started

[viscid garden]

Also I tried your suggestion about context.control.device.path now that i've removed the virtual mouse and it seems right stick doesnt get picked up at all.

[untold gulch]

It doesn't help that a lot of the third party tutorials and such are either based on really old versions, or tell you to do the wrong thing

[untold gulch]

That seems odd, what if you remove the VirtualMouse binding?

[viscid garden]

That was it, removing the binding

[untold gulch]

Very strange

I would have expected it to have no impact if the device was disabled

[viscid garden]

Maybe I messed something up and hadn't saved my input actions recently.

I saved after removing the binding

Thanks

[untold gulch]

Possible

[delicate pollen]

Hey folks - just testing this code:
[HideInInspector]public bool MouseLeftClick => controls.BipedMovement.MouseLeftClickOnce.WasPressedThisFrame();
Unfortunately, I can't seem to get it to register a click (a positive bool)...!

[viscid garden]

Debug.Log(context.control.device.path);

Any reason why this code doesn't register my right gamepad stick when the action type is on Value, but it works just fine when on passthrough?

[mortal ridge]

You probably move your stick not far enough since with value, deadzones are taken into account

[uncut depot]

so Im using this for movement now, and the problem is that its so unresponsive. like it takes 3 seconds to register the press. any tips to fix?

[austere grotto]

Do you have an interaction on the action?

Also you're overcomplicating it

[uncut depot]

yeah i was using this before, but the other guy told me to switch to events. Basically, the isMoving variable being true, allows a function in another script to do the movement

so reading the vector 2 values as the input.x and input.z

before when i was using this it was responsive, but when I load from a different scene, and i press, it would just read 0,0 for the vector2 value, until i release the button and press again

[mortal ridge]

why are you still f*** using FindAction()???

also you have a lot of redundant code

[uncut depot]

well u just said learn events

ok whats the redundant part. is it sectioning it off ointo parts?

[mortal ridge]

1 - you don't need to check for cancelled or anything if you already subscribe your method to the cancelled event

2 - you can reference the actions with strong names

[uncut depot]

seems to be working as intended now.

should i maybe combine this and the movement stuff into 1 script? was thinking to do this in FixedUpdate but if i do it in a separate script the movement part doesnt occur.

[mortal ridge]

don't ever do non physics related things in fixedupdate

[uncut depot]

so this is the bottom part of my 2nd screenshot. so the move uses physics, but i can keep as is then? as in for the button press check stuff in Update

[viscid garden]

Since no one else replied i'll assume it's just something hard to answer but this isn't the case here. When I am testing I am pretty hard on the sticks 😄

[mortal ridge]

well no idea then. seems like it needs deeper debugging

[viscid garden]

Yeah turns out the input debugger does show signal when im using it

[mortal ridge]

why are you multiplying by -1 anyway?

[viscid garden]

I feel like my device check method is poorly written, or that the currentAimInput can be updated better but i'm not sure how. Anyone want to share their opinions of my code and tell me how I could make it easier to read or something?

This is basically just to clamp my texture to the mouse/gamepad depending on which device last called .performed , and I have another script that reads the currentAimInput and determines whether or not to flip the sprite on the X axis depending on what side of the cursor he's on

So my screen bounds are -8, -5 to 8, 5. I multiply by -1 to get the left bounds

[mortal ridge]

why don't you simply negate

[viscid garden]

oh of course.

Thanks for that. One bit tidied up better 😄

[blissful comet]

Is there an equivalent to Input.inputString in the new Input System or am I going to need to build up an action map of every possible key on the keyboard?

[mortal ridge]

maybe get it with key.any?

[blissful comet]

Possible. Is there a quick way to get the string representation of a key or do I need to make a dictionary to map them?

[mortal ridge]

you could probably easily get them from the context

[indigo patrol]

Ontextinput... Or you could just get it from onanykeypressed via its name

[austere grotto]

I generally use Keyboard.current.onTextInput

[prisma crane]

Hello guys, I'm kind of new to Unity still, and I have an issue with the new input system: I coded some simple top down movement a few months ago (and reinstalled windows without saving my work), and now the same exact implementation doesn't seem to be working anymore.

I followed 3 different tutorials and did exactly what those guys did, but unity doesn't want to read the input anymore

The only hunch I have is that in Project Settings I can't chose .NET 4.x, I only have .NET Standard 2.1 and .NET Framework. From what I've seen, Framework should include 4.x or something like that? I know 4.x is needed for the input system to work, and I'm pretty sure Framework worked in the past.

The coding part is pretty straight-forward and shouldn't (in theory) be the problem, but if you don't have any idea why I'm encountering this issue I'll provide it

[mortal ridge]

only use .net standard 2.1

[prisma crane]

it doesn't work

[mortal ridge]

most likely a code problem then

[prisma crane]

it's not moving whatsoever

[mortal ridge]

move literally everything in FixedUpdate() OUT of FixedUpdate() for a start

[prisma crane]

just regular update then?

yeah it worked

tutorial guy betrayed me

thank you so much, i've struggled with this for 2 hours, and it was so simple :))))

[mortal ridge]

and subscribe to the event only ONE time, not every time in Update()

[prisma crane]

by subscribe you mean these?

[mortal ridge]

the first

[prisma crane]

okay

thank you for the help

[jagged wyvern]

unity REALLY needs to invest in better documentation

[mortal ridge]

unity has great documentation

[jagged wyvern]

then why do we keep getting the same questions here

[mortal ridge]

because the api is intermediate i guess. and here are a lot and lot of beginners

and tutorial followers

[jagged wyvern]

if we could just refer them to the documentation that would be great

but when we do they get confused and need someone to spell it out for them

[mortal ridge]

what do you expect though

[jagged wyvern]

i expect the documentation to be begginer friendly

[mortal ridge]

that would be convoluted and pointless and hurts devs who know what they're looking for

[jagged wyvern]

how

[mortal ridge]

cause that would likely be a lot more words covering the actual important parts

[granite apex]

Does anyone know what PanelEventHandler is?
It's mentioned here https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.3/manual/UISupport.html at the bottom of the page, but if I use it in the code, it gives The type or namespace name 'PanelEventHandler' could not be found.

[mortal ridge]

you have to add the using statement of course

[granite apex]

I assumed it's a part of UnityEngine.InputSystem. Do I need to specify more than that in using statements?

[lost swift]

Hello! I'm trying to rebind a button in runtime, but getting error "A Native Collection has not been disposed, resulting in a memory leak. Enable Full StackTraces to get more details."
And nothing happens.

Code was taken from this example - ``` public void StartInteractiveRebind()
{
var rebindOperation = m_Action.action.PerformInteractiveRebinding()
// To avoid accidental input from mouse motion
.WithControlsExcluding("Mouse")
.WithCancelingThrough("<Keyboard>/escape")
.OnMatchWaitForAnother(0.2f)
.Start();

Debug.Log("finished");

I need help

[blissful comet]

Workflow question: I have an Input Actions asset for "Hotkeys" to do things like toggling fullscreen, bringing up help, displaying FPS, etc., that are all read by different scripts. Should I have them all spin up an instance of the Hotkeys action map and enable their specific keys, or should I have one singleton with a reference to it that all of these scripts subscribe to?

[granite sun]

I'm trying to port Dani's grappling gun script to the new input system but idk how to go about it. I tried this and it isn't working

      
        if (_movement.Actions.Grapple.triggered) {
            Debug.Log("button pressed");
            StartGrapple();
        }
        else if (!_movement.Actions.Grapple.triggered == false) {
            StopGrapple();
        }
    }```

[blissful comet]

So, if it's triggered, you want to start grapple, and if it isn't not triggered, stop grapple

[granite sun]

isn't the ! supposed to say "not triggered"

also the big issue is that im not getting any input at all. the debug.log gives no message

[blissful comet]

You're checking if not triggered is false

Meaning not not triggered

meaning triggered

[blissful comet]

Did you enable the input

[granite sun]

yeah
void Awake() { lr = GetComponent<LineRenderer>(); _movement = new Movement(); }

[granite sun]

oh yeah i just noticed that. that's something left over from when i tried to use bools. oops.

[blissful comet]

And where do you enable it

[granite sun]

wdym by "enable"

[blissful comet]

Where do you call Enable on the input actions

[granite sun]

i don't? it's an auto generated script. im confused

[blissful comet]

So you aren't enabling the input

You have to call .Enable() on it before it reads for input

[granite sun]

huh

[granite apex]

This is odd. The error vanishes in 2021.2.12f, but reproducible in 2020 LTS.

[granite sun]

.Enable fixed there being no input but now the input seems to only last for a split second. something to do with .triggered im assuming?

[blissful comet]

Is your button set to be a hold?

[tame oracle]

people, my input was perfect, now it isn't working... my problem is using a 2d vector, I am using wasd keys... I am able to get input horizontally or vertically, can't use both .. idk why

[granite sun]

yeah

[tame oracle]

can someone help me? what can be the reason? I can't modify the input unless i stop it and can't use the binding on vertical and horizontal axis at the same time

[lost swift]

Still need help

[rare chasm]

@lost swift you need to dispose of it because of memory leak issues (important for some reason idk) add an .OnComplete(ctx => { rebindOperation.Dispose(); })

Im trying to make rebinding system for my game (like most others here) and am having issues applying said overrides to the controls.

Attached is a screenshot showing overwritten controls, but when i move into using said controls, it uses default controls instead of the overridden ones, despite loading overrides from json

anyone know why this might be? i cant find anyone else having this problem online. Using unity 2020.3.26f1. (please ping me)

[broken spear]

Hello, I have a Vector2 action: WASD brings value between -1-0, Touchscreen (Delta [Pointer]) brings value between -100-100. That's why when I receive input, I need to process it accordingly. Is there a better way to tell which device it is? ```csharp
private void OnMovementInputPerformed(InputAction.CallbackContext context)
{
InputDevice device = context.control.device;

  if (device.name == "Touchscreen") // device.noisy is false for touchscreen so cant use that
  {
    
  }
  else
  {
    
  }
}``` Or what I am doing is completely wrong?

[olive root]

So, I am working on collab with someone and the entire input system worked fine for me but not for them, even though the project is perfectly synced.

[broken spear]

should I use EnhancedTouchSupport instead?

[obsidian fiber]

Greetings, I have attempted to make a movement controller and got all movements except for jumping to work correctly, in fact jumping causes the engine to become unresponsive. Above is a stripped version of the code. I can explain any design decisions if needed, but what would be recommended to create a jumping motion for a character controller object?

[eager burrow]

Is that your IDE??

[obsidian fiber]

no. I took snippets from the code and into notepad to show the code that I have for the most part. I believe the issue I have is math related or maybe another function is needed

[uncut depot]

so is there a problem with making a new InputActionAsset thing for different scripts? or is there a way to reference a Player Input's one thats already there?

so for example here, I make a new PlayerControls so i can assign functions to whatever action i have bound. But if I have another script, is it fine to do the same thing? or should i reference the one created already here

[thorny osprey]

Hey! How can you detect left/right click with a pointereventdata but with controller? I guess that pointer event data is only for mouse, which one is for controller and how to get its right click button?

[granite sun]

there's a script im trying to port to the new input system but im not getting anything. would anyone know why? https://paste.ofcode.org/34EdT6Jua4nCvnbXP5ypeVD

[pulsar basalt]

what is left alt called if i want to add it to the input manager?

[willow violet]

Not for Input it doesn't - docs for Input (and UIToolkit) are terrible, almost nothing is described, most classes are empty, etc. Not true of most Unity, but these two teams seem to have a hatred for letting anyone know how to use the code they've written 🙂

[mortal ridge]

not sure where you are looking but both are incredibly well documented

[willow violet]

Ironically ... when you write the docs that the Input team didn't ... you immediately see some mistakes they made in the design, and which are easy to fix in the code.

[willow violet]

UIToolkit GCE is documented now? (required for EVERYTHING non-trivial) ... Binding is documented? (last time I checked, a couple of months ago, GCE was AWOL and Binding had a long waffling essay that said almsot nothing about Binding)

I have a set of large private docs that explain how UIToolkit and NewInput actually work. I have multiple bugs outstanding (and most of them accepted by Unity QA) for the more extreme bitst that I have but they don't

[mortal ridge]

1 - binding is pretty terrible for performance. 2 - binding works the same as other unity binding

[willow violet]

If these were documented people wouldn't need to watch lame tutorials by people who were guessing, that lead them to make dumb mistakes

No, binding in UIToolkit is a special monster. It is bound at different times. It literally breaks existing Unity APIs - they no longer work, specifically because of the new binding system that UIT introduced.

[mortal ridge]

i recommend not to use binding anyway for in game ui

[willow violet]

Great, but UIToolkit team's response to many game-related UI problems is 'you need to manually bind. No there still aren't any docs for that, just do this [inserts code, that often doesn't compile, because they referenced unity-internal classes]'.

Without docs ... it's no suprrise people get lost 🙂

[mortal ridge]

the thing unity should document more, is ScriptableRenderPass because that one is not really good documented. at least the new version that uses RTHandles

[mortal ridge]

if people get lost then they have to figure it out themselves. that IS part of being a dev anyway

[willow violet]

Sorry. I'm in a particularly unhappy mood with Unity's docs on Input at the moment, having just fixed more bugs in Input/Events in the last week than I can count on one hand, and most of them 'if you'd written the docs, Unity, you'd have noticed these bugs and fixed them years ago yourselves'. Seeing your comment that Input docs weren't needed triggered me a little 🙂

[mortal ridge]

i didn't say they aren't needed. but getting the input system up and running is already well documented

[willow violet]

Pro devs write docs for their code. Most of Unity has that. Some bits of Unity are decades behind the standard for being a platform provider.

[mortal ridge]

maybe take a look at unreal 🤣

[willow violet]

Input system up and running is a joke - I logged a bug just last month that creating a new project in latest Unity LTS breaks Input on startup. Because of multiple 'things you need to do but the docs don't tell you'

Yeah, sure - Unreal is/was hell. I have bitter memories of Unreal3. That's why I use Unity exclusively these days 🙂

[mortal ridge]

NEVER had that happen btw. it's always the same setup for me. install package, restart / switch backend, create action asset, generate c# class, use, done

[willow violet]

(one of these they've grudgingly admitted they really really need to either fix or rewrite the docs. They are dragging their feet on writing the docs)

Anyway ... TL;DR: I reckon 1 week of Unity Input team writing docs would save them months every year in dealing with support, forums, bug-reports, etc.

Docs are good!

[mortal ridge]

definitely. but i haven't had any issues with the docs yet

i myself found them just informative enough to be good

[jagged wyvern]

Theyre pretty bad

[mortal ridge]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[willow violet]

If I had time (I am massively overworked right now 😦 ) I would take my notes and convert to a series of blogposts. There's SO MUCH to explain that is missing

• ... I already started a series on UIToolkit that's had a lot of positive reactions, and I only published the first 4 posts, I have notes to fill another 6+ blogs just on how how to use UIToolkit properly. So Input is way down the list 😦

[mortal ridge]

it really is not hard to figure it out yourself

[jagged wyvern]

They should get someone from the community.
There's so many people that are better suited to describing the unput system than unity is

[mortal ridge]

def not

[willow violet]

"the unput system" 😄

[willow violet]

I had to spend days reading the source code, replacing it, proving that it's fundamentally stupid and wrong in multiple places, renaming the wrongly-named classes, wrongly-named methods, to check that they actually do something materially different from what the name says they do, etc.

There is no way on earth that this is acceptable. If you have bad code, or code that changes purpose - fine. That's what docs are for: explaning what the thing actually does, not what the name would imply.

[mortal ridge]

the thing i want in ui toolkit is being able to apply shaders to the meshes generated on generateVisualContent

[mortal ridge]

i've not found anything that was wrongly named. can you specify?

[willow violet]

Off the top of my head ... the methods for checking the button state also store the pointer position as a side effect.

Reading the code you can see how the method started off doing one thing and probably grew out of proportion (it looks a lot like 2-3 methods that were copy/pasted together, and originally were separate methods)

[blissful comet]

I've got an input asset with different maps for different styles of camera movement on different Action Maps. Many different scripts will reference this action map. Previously, I had code similar to this on things that use it. This would mean that each script spins up an entire new instance of this input asset whenever something needs it, and that feels wasteful. Ideally, I'd want to have one Input asset that everything uses and just enable/disable maps as needed, right? Is the best way to handle this using a singleton MonoBehaviour with a reference to the input asset that other stuff can use to access that asset and subscribe to events, or is there a better way that's a better practice for use with the Input System?

[foggy notch]

This isn’t bad, apparently a scriptable object is the best for input but it’s too complicated for me

[crisp smelt]

After almost 2 years they finally fixed it: https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/inputsystem-android-touch-dot-isinprogress-gets-stuck-when-multiple-touches-are-applied-to-touchscreen-quickly

Except I tested the latest Input System package (1.3.0, Unity 2020.3.14f1) the bug is still there.

Unless I'm blind I can't find anything else on the page that says anything about which version it was fixed, nor can I find it in Input System package changelog.

[soft basin]

1.3.0 is from january

[crisp smelt]

That's also the latest version there is, unless I'm missing something.

[random siren]

i changed my method of player movement from translation to addforce and now this setup can make the player continually spin on the spot? is triggered when i walk into a corner of a box, can be resolved by walking straight forward into a wall

[mint blaze]

Hi, I haven't ever used the new input system. I just wonder if it has some implementation that later allows to implement control settings. That would be a game changer for me.

[austere grotto]

What kind of control settings are you interested in?

[mint blaze]

well, keybindings

like to change the crouching key

from c to ctrl and vice versa

[austere grotto]

yes the new system supports key reybinding at runtime

[mint blaze]

okay, that's all I needed to know

[mint blaze]

The ToJson and FromJson() functions are super helpful

[crisp smelt]

Is this the Input System package repo?
https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/InputSystem

[austere grotto]

yes

[crisp smelt]

Cool, I'm going to browse through the commits

But from a brief look I can't find the case # or anything that immediately seems related.

Yeah can't seem to find it being fixed 😔

Well that's disappointing, guess I'm not using Input System until maybe 5 more years.

[blissful comet]

How would I make an Input Binding that fires an event every frame that the button is held? Because it is apparently not this.

[austere grotto]

wdym by "every time the button is held"?

[blissful comet]

every frame a button is held

[austere grotto]

Ah - you can't

[blissful comet]

Dang

[austere grotto]

Just poll it

[blissful comet]

Making a bool and checking it in Update just seems antithetical to what the Input System wants to be so it felt like a janky workaround

[austere grotto]

Yeah I would avoid events at all for that use case

just myAction.IsPressed() in Update

[blissful comet]

Is there an IsPressed? Or is that just shorthand for me making a bool that I toggle when pressed or released

[austere grotto]

there's an IsPressed in Input System 1.2+

If you are using an earlier version you probably have to do myAction.ReadValue<float>() != 0

[blissful comet]

Huh, mine only has 1.0.2, maybe it's not available for my Unity version? I'm stuck on 2020 for the time being, 2021+ breaks some necessary plugins

I'll try readValue

[reef valley]

Why doesn't my player get affected by gravity using the new input system??

[austere grotto]

Nothing to do with the input system. Everything to do with your code.

The input system merely gives you a way to read input data.

[reef valley]

Ah okay thanks, I ssee the poroblem ^^

[dense cedar]

I'm trying to create a slider that allows for changes in the on-screen stick's "Movement Range" using a slider. I'm guessing that I don't want to edit the auto-generated script from the (new) input system, so I need to access that field externally. The slider works fine and a value gets stored in PlayerPrefs, but I need to tell the 'stick' to use that value. Any suggestions?

The value I'm trying to get at is here.

Specifically, that "movement range".

[austere grotto]

Are you sure you want to change the movement range of the stick? That determines the range of motion, in screen pixels, that the stick has

For something like "sensitivity" I'd imagine you want to change the effect that the stick has on something in game, no?

[dense cedar]

Good question. I want to change the sensitivity of the touchpad on mobile.

[austere grotto]

yeah you wouldn't touch movement range for that - that'd be some value you multiply into your movement calculation in your code

or I guess - rotation calculation?

[dense cedar]

My game allows a player to scroll their character side to side (also forward a back to a lesser degree) but some complain that the response (sensitivity) of the pad is insufficient on mobile.

[austere grotto]

Yeah exactly

that'd be something in your movement code

[dense cedar]

I can alter the side to side movement speed well enough.

If that's actually what players are looking for.

[austere grotto]

unless you have some kind of acceleration built into it - that speed seems like the only thing they could be talking about, no?

[dense cedar]

I suppose that makes sense. They probably want to be able to shift directions (left to right and back) more quickly, not change how the pad responds.

[austere grotto]

I guess in some sense making the stick movement range smaller could be thought of as making it a bit more responsive, because then their finger has to move less distance to manipulate it

But I kinda doubt that's what they mean

[dense cedar]

@austere grotto , thanks for the pep talk. :0(

🙂

[rancid fractal]

Hey, how can I control cinemachine via touch?

[austere grotto]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@2.6/manual/CinemachineAlternativeInput.html

[rare chasm]

i do still need some help on this.

[rare chasm]

ayo nevermind i figured it out, instead of adjusting the generated c# class i instead was adjusting the playerinput component

[faint horizon]

okay so i am using the new input system (using unity XR so it was reccommended to use the new input system) as you can see in the image attached i add the input events but whenever i touch my right stick (in any direction) there is no movement/change in the cameraYOffset in the XROrigin.
my code is here: https://github.com/walksanatora/My-VR-project/blob/master/Assets/Scripts/verticalAdjustment.cs

[lost swift]

Cannot use local variable 'name' before it is declared. cs0841

I have to dispose Action?

[faint horizon]

Any ideas as to why the value doesent change

[real crystal]

New input system, behaviour is invoke unity events so normal code for functions is

public void Empty(InputAction.CallbackContext context) { GetStateFromInput(EmptyInput, context); }

however, it seems like this stops me from using buttons in the UI to call those same functions since presumably they don't send callback contexts (I notice that one of the control functions that are public doesn't have any parameters so it comes up in the inspector while none of the other functions do)

[faint horizon]

So should I make it so it attaches to the y-axis in the same way I do for the button
And perform movement in that function

[real crystal]

Sorry MB, this is my own question, no relation to yours

[viscid garden]

I have encountered an interesting issue where my aiming sprite lags when moving in the diagonal. I recorded a gif. The stuttering you see in the gif is from the issue, not lag or anything like that.

https://gyazo.com/c300ec1099e66d495f57f85df6deffef

Happens in build and in editor.

I think the issue here is that when im pushing my controller right stick into a certain direction, I no longer receive input events because my stick isn't technically moving anymore. It's being pushed all the way in one direction and not technically being moved anymore.

How would you guys tackle this? My first thought is using a flag maybe so that as long as the right stick isnt 0,0 it'll move in the last direction that was registered?

[royal oyster]

I duplicated the DefaultInputActions.inputactions and I'm trying to understand it.
https://i.imgur.com/wxIVQQc.png
How does it magically know that pressing the Enter key fires the Submit event? It appears to not be defined anywhere, yet when I test in-game, it works (unexpectedly).

[dapper prawn]

Could there be a general reason in why when we play a scene... The player controller works in one computer and not the other? The input settings seem to be the same on both computers. It is a First Person Controller

[pale jacinth]

TL;DR Single scroll returns a value of (0, 0) I have to give it about 3-4 scrolls for it to return (0, ±120)

Hey there, I have an issue with reading the scroll value with the input system. I am using the default input actions and I'm listening for a scroll event. The callback is called correctly when I scroll, but when I use ReadValue on the context object it returns (0, 0) as the value. I have to give it about 3-4 scrolls before it registers a non zero value for y. I checked and there are no processors or interactions on the action. Also I checked to see if my mouse is Ok and it is, on the unity editor a single scroll does work both on the viewport as on the inpector panel. Using a trackpad to scroll does work correctly.

[vivid junco]

if you map the controls as a switch pro, will you still be able to play the game with joy cons?

[delicate pollen]

Attempting to get a constant 'true' if I double-click and hold the left mouse button...

[HideInInspector]public bool        MouseLDoubleHeld=> controls.BipedMovement.MouseLeftClickDouble.WasPerformedThisFrame();

Currently it's not working for me (nothing detected when I seek it in Update).

if (iC.MouseLDoubleHeld)
        {
            Debug.Log("Double click detected.");
        }

Any clues?

[untold gulch]

There's no need to mark that with HideInInspector btw

Unity won't serialize properties

[delicate pollen]

Ah, useful! Thank you. =)

Any ideas on the Double-Click-Hold, @untold gulch ?

[untold gulch]

Unfortunately not, I would have provided some info if I did :(

Hmm, have you tried WasPressedThisFrame instead?

[delicate pollen]

Aha, no worries - removing HideInInspector has cleaned up my input script nicely, thanks. =D

[delicate pollen]

It's odd. I'm getting an input if I do
public bool MouseLDoubleHeld=> controls.BipedMovement.MouseLeftClickDouble.WasPressedThisFrame();
but it doesn't seem to be taking into account the Multi-Tap...

I only have to click once to trigger the input.

Not seeing anything in the docs to suggest I'm doing something wrong... https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.1/manual/Interactions.html#multitap

[austere grotto]

Subscribe to the performed event and cancelled event for the action.

On performed set a bool to true.
On cancelled set it to false

[untold gulch]

That's effectively what WasPressedThisFrame does (to an extent), just less efficiently (since it would allocate closures)

Rather strange that it doesn't take the multi-tap into account though

[austere grotto]

nah

WasPressedThisFrame will only return true for a single frame

[scenic orbit]

Anyone know why several inputs on bluetooth Xbox one Controller

don't work on Mac/Unity

using old Input system.

[austere grotto]

Is there a Quaternion control type?

How did you set up the input action?

[austere grotto]

What did you bind that to?

show the input bindings

open it

show the bindings

That No Binding seems possibly wrong

I've never worked with XR framework so not sure if the other bits are right

maybe ask in #🥽┃virtual-reality

See if deleting the empty binding helps?

save your project

commit

try it

if it doesn't work, rollback

You are using version control, right?

last thing to check is make sure that you've enabled this thing?

[austere grotto]

whatever ActionBasedController is

did you enable it?

[heavy acorn]

Hello, I wanted to make some kind of way to get input from the keyboard for my console on this laptop in the game. So I created an Inputfield that is automatically selected when the console is activated. It works but I always have to press enter or mouseclick again after I submitted the text. How can I automatically reselect the InputField after submitting?

public class KeyboardInputController : MonoBehaviour
{
    // 35
    public InputField inputField;
    public Controller controller;
    public TextMeshPro console;

    private void Update()
    {
        if (controller.consoleMode)
        {
            inputField.Select();
            inputField.enabled = true;
            inputField.readOnly = false;
            inputField.interactable = true;
            if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.Return))
            {
                console.text += inputField.text;
                inputField.text = "";
            }
        }
    }
}

as you can see I already tried to set some booleans and calling the select method but nothing worked...

[terse aurora]

you fellas know what the terms for more than and less than are?

[lost swift]

Hello! I trying to rebind some buttons, for that i disable action, then start rebinding

void RemapButtonClicked(InputAction actionToRebind)
    {
        var rebindOperation = actionToRebind.PerformInteractiveRebinding()
                    // To avoid accidental input from mouse motion
                    .WithControlsExcluding("Mouse")
                    .OnMatchWaitForAnother(0.1f)
                    .Start();
    }

i also have void inside RemapButtonClicked for dispose and clear button on cancel or oncomplete, but still have "A Native Collection has not been disposed", what can i do to solve this?

[mint blaze]

Hi, I am using the Player Input component. I'm using the broadcast method of handling inputs. It works as it should, when I hold down r it does what I want. But I also want to know when the button is released and send another broadcast. How do I do that? I've tried finding a solution with no luck.

[gleaming oar]

.performed and .cancelled

[austere grotto]

You're going to have to use a different approach than the broadcast mode

Unity events mode will fire an event for cancelled

[tame oracle]

found it

[steel yoke]

Is it possible through unity's action-based vr controller to grab your own hand and throw it?

[austere grotto]

Anything is possible in the world of video games!

[steel yoke]

hmm yes but how. I think I'm going to cheat and make a duplicate game object that is throwable.

[austere grotto]

Seems reasonable

I don't think throwing one's actual hand would be a great user experience

[dapper narwhal]

lmao

[wet vortex]

My input seems to stop working when I pause the game, how can I make the input unscaled?

Solved: Changed update mode from fixed update to dynamic update in project settings

[thick pollen]

Hello, I have a strange issue with the input system. When I'm pressing Z on my keyboard to move forward, the character does not move, but he moves forward if I press W. I have checked my keyboard is not in a "qwerty mode" (i'm an "azerty" user"). Does anyone have a solution for this problem ?

[thick pollen]

Even if I try to switch between the AZERTY and QWERT mode, I can only press on W to move forward

Solved! If anyone else has this problem, you can fin the solution here : https://forum.unity.com/threads/new-input-system-which-keyboard-layouts-are-supported.912074/

[crimson crater]

For some reasons unity throws me an error when I use this despite the fact that it worked perfectly before GetComponent<PlayerInputManager>().JoinPlayer(0,0,"Host",Keyboard.current,Gamepad.current);
"Says Value cannot be null"

fixed it

[karmic umbra]

Hi, how do you simulate Input.GetButtonDown() in the new input system?

Edit: I figured it out, if anyone was wondering you can use WasPressedThisFrame()

[olive root]

So, uhh, the performed actions aren't called on my device, but everyone on my team can call them just fine, does anyone know what causes this?

[warped dock]

Hey question:

I declared these too and dragged an input field to the first one.

Later i created this function:

And i added it in " On End Edit (String)" but it doesn't store the string i am input in charName

Can anyone help?

[austere grotto]

how do you know it's not storing the string? How are you checking it?
If you put Debug.Log("charName is " + charName); right after that line what does it print? Does it print at all?

[rapid saddle]

I'm using the Right Trigger on a Gamepad to control the throttle of a car. For whatever reason, the value never goes back to 0 after I let off from the trigger.

void OnThrottle(InputValue value)
{
    throttleValue = value.Get<float>();
}

Why is that?

[fleet pasture]

Is there a function in the new input system like GetButtonUp()? I'm trying to make a player controller and jumping feels weird when it's not as I release it.

[austere grotto]

myInputAction.WasReleasedThisFrame();```

or subscribe to the canceled event

[fleet pasture]

ok I'll try it out thanks!

[fleet pasture]

I tried to get that working but all that works for me right now is my:
playerActions.Land.Jump.performed += _ => Jump();

And that just performs the action as soon as I press it

[austere grotto]

playerActions.Land.Jump.canceled += _ => Jump();

[warped dock]

This is a text with the input string, instead of the name it prints "InputField <UnityEngine.GameObject>"

[austere grotto]

right so you're printing the input field itself instead of myInputField.text which is the text contents of the input field

It's a bug in your code

[warped dock]

I store the value this way

[glass yacht]

that's an empty string

https://help.vertx.xyz/interface/unity-events/dynamic-values

[austere grotto]

you should use the dynamic version of this.

[austere grotto]

Show the code that creates this text

[warped dock]

I store the input text in charName

wait

[glass yacht]

and you're printing characterName

the InputField

[warped dock]

I changed characterName to charName. Now it justs prints void

[glass yacht]

#🖱️┃input-system message

Ignoring what we say is not helpful

[warped dock]

Yeah, i changed characterName to charName first, hoping this was my error and i tried to choose a function from the dynamic section later

It worked

Thank you!!

[next bloom]

Is it possible to use Letterboxed area for mobile? I'd like for the player in the game to move even if I have input in the letterboxed area

[stable coral]

So I have an issue with my input using Axis. For some reason it reports 0 AND some value (e.g 0 and -1) and I have no idea why

since it's a float it couldn't possibly have 2 values at the same time, although I'm unsure

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/763495187787677697/947522248460341268/unknown.png got a screenshot from yesterday, cant experiment with it now as i dont have the joystick but yea

[austere grotto]

First off, turn off Collapse in your console

It's not two values at the same time

it's one at a time

Second share the code that's printing this

[uncut creek]

trying to get main menu navigation working for both mouse&kb and gamepad. I have an event system with the InputSystemUIInputModule and a MainMenu object with a PlayerInput component on it with the eventsystem selected as the UI Input Module.

It works for whichever input scheme I select, but will not switch from mouse&kb to gamepad or vice versa if I use <any> as the default scheme.

I am using a custom input action asset with generate c# class. Is there a way I can use my custom class to send info to the event system in the same way as PlayerInput? or am I just missing a setting somewhere possibly?

hm. seems like all I needed to do was ditch the PlayerInput component entirely, and create and enable my custom player input from within my menu script

🪄

[blissful comet]

Is there a way to know what the most recently used input device is? I'd like to update glyphs from keyboard to gamepad based on what they most recently used

[gleaming oar]

https://forum.unity.com/threads/detect-most-recent-input-device-type.753206/

there's a few hacks people have in there to get it, but nothing really built in

[blissful comet]

Dang. I found that thread too but they all seemd kinda like janky hacks and I was hoping there was something more built-in

[fleet pasture]

I'm setting up local multiplayer and I have a controller and the multiplayer set up. But for some reason my inputs controls all of the players. I'm using input actions in my script instead of unity events and couldn't find any resources that stated how to fix this. Please help, thanks.

[real berry]

Does anyone here experience key presses getting "stuck". i'd say quite often presses gets sticky and i have to press it again so that Input.GetKey stops returning true.
(UPDATE) it looks like there is a fix and it's macOS related. need to update to a newer version of unity

[tame oracle]

what is the GetButtonDown() equivalent in XR input system?

im trying to activate a grabbed item (checking if its grabbed or not is irrelevant rn, ill do that later, for now i really need to be able to use the input on an if statement)

[coral flame]

unity is trash

its just randomly broke out of no where

[mint crow]

?

[coral flame]

like files are not decompressing and it gives me weird coding like someone had deleted a core file that just breaks

[random edge]

hey i'm new to unity, will this https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/input-management/joystick-pack-107631#reviews working on webgl for mobile? i just read that unity doesn't officially support webgl mobile yet

[atomic silo]

hi guys

did anyone experience touch lag on Android?

seems that I'm not the only one

this is what I found: https://forum.unity.com/threads/new-input-system-touch-screen-lag.1028134/

unfortunately no answer

I tried with old and new input system

during few seconds after the game launch, touch is very precise

exactly what I need

then it starts to lag behind

like on the first video from the link

is there a solution to keep it precise all the time?

[stable coral]

sorry for the late reply, i've been busy lately

    private void Update()
    {
        PlayerThrottleJoy(plr_setup.thrustJoyAction.ReadValue<float>());

        Debug.Log(plr_setup.thrustJoyAction.ReadValue<float>());
    }

[austere grotto]

Debug.Log($"{GetInstanceID()} - {plr_setup.thrustJoyAction.ReadValue<float>()});``` Try this

[stable coral]

alr hollon

[austere grotto]

ok that confirms it all comes from one instance of the script at least

[stable coral]

even if one says 92 and another says 82?

[austere grotto]

oh shit good eye lmao

then yeah it's two different script instances

[stable coral]

Oh im a dumbo, i have 2 players and both of them share the same script