🎥┃cinemachine

[royal tartan]

note that cinemachine has nothing to do with rendering. #1390346776804069396 would be the place to ask.

Cinemachine simply positions and rotates your camera.

[odd elk]

Whats the best way to setup a camera that simply follows an object, and zooms in and out with mouse wheel, and middle mouse click drag rotates but still orbits that object. Exactly like OSRS if anybody plays that or mostly any 3rd person game? Any easy and simple way to do so?

[ivory wraith]

If you are still having a problem, it sounds like your shaking is too strong at higher frequencies

As you increase your sample rate (i.e., your framerate), you'll start perceiving higher frequency signals more clearly

It's hard to say for sure what's wrong without an example though

[mystic cloak]

i cant really show you an example without sending an 160fps viedo which idk if discord allows or if you can even view, but basically the shaking feels a bit too fast

at higher fps

[ivory wraith]

To help visualize the problem, you could log the camera's position each frame and look at how quickly it's changing

or maybe use Debug.DrawLine to plot the path the camera is following

e.g. Debug.DrawLine(transform.position, lastFramePos, Color.red, 1f);

where lastFramePos is a field that you store your position in, of course

It does sound like you just have too much high-frequency shaking, though

[mystic cloak]

i'll try this out next time i work on the camera, cus i dont really haev the project open at the minute. its a bit of a non issue honestly but it feels yucky to me lol

[ivory wraith]

I often test my game at very high and low framerates to see if anything feels "weird"

low framerates will expose any "off-by-one-frame" errors

like a camera getting moved before its target moves

that was causing some really weird uncanny head poses for NPCs

i could tell they weren't quite looking at me

I hadn't actually considered how high framerates could cause problems like that

(beyond the obvious cases)

You're experiencing the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem here, I think 😉

if you aren't sampling quickly enough (i.e. your framerate is too low), you won't experience the full intensity of the shake

the camera simply can't go up and down fast enough

I don't think you can edit the built-in shake settings, but you can make a copy of one and then try adjusting it

(i've only done a little of that)

[half shuttle]

I'd like to switch cameras depending on which cameras can see the player, and if multiple cameras see the player, the one which is closest should be chosen.
I tried doing it with clearshot and trying to adjust the distance variables, but it doesn't seem to really work.
Is there some function in cinemachine I'm missing/misusing, or would behaviour like that need to be coded from scratch?

[royal tartan]

Good news. This exists: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/manual/CinemachineClearShot.html

just noticed you said you tried it

what went wrong exactly? It should work fine

[half shuttle]

I'll record it and post in a sec

But basically, I have two cameras looking in a similar direction, but one of them is quite far away, and a second one is relatively close, and it doesn't seem to want to switch

Tested with both the player tag being ignored and with it not being ignored
also tried messing with increasing the priority on that closer camera, but that did not seem to help

What I'm trying to use this for, is basically a fixed camera system for "lower priority" areas, where a super exact trigger zone is not needed, so having the cameras be chosen just by "which one is the closest and in view" seems like a good choice for those places

[royal tartan]

sorta hard to tell from this video but the situation you're describing is precisely the situation ClearShot was designed for.

Maybe it thinks the closer camera is occluded for some reason?

Try setting Occlusion layers to None for a minute or something

and/or disabling all deoccluders etc

[half shuttle]

Alright, will give that a shot
and if it won't work, I'll send a vid without the fog so it's clearer

just noticed I messed up the video crop on the right, those are the current clearshot settings

[royal tartan]

how far is that camera from the player here? You have a near limit of 5

if it's clsoer than 5 it won't get boosted

[half shuttle]

tried lowering near limit and minimum distance to the lowest possible, no change so far

[royal tartan]

does your player have a collider

oh sorry actually it's the occlusions that need colliders.

Idk this is odd

[half shuttle]

Yea
As like, the camera does change, but that far-off camera seems to have the highest priority in most cases... somehow
here is a vid with how it looks from the start

[late basin]

The quality evaluation algorithm is quite naive. Cameras whose distance from the target is closer to Optimal Distance will be prioritized. If you always want the nearest camera to be prioritized, set the Optimal Distance to be at the near end of the range.

[odd elk]

What is the best preferred and easiest for noob way to setup a camera that follows player object with zoom in and out from mouse wheel, and middle mouse click + drag orbits around the player? Simple OSRS style camera or really any top down 3rd person perspective camera? Thanks for any help I really appreciate it!

cinemachine or script?

[royal tartan]

both

[odd elk]

If a script did all the following, zooming, and orbitting, what would I want cinemachine for? Just curious

[ivory wraith]

Cinemachine would figure out how to pose the camera

Your script would tell Cinemachine roughly what you want

[odd elk]

Sorry, what would pose mean in this context? I don't necessarily want a smart camera that avoids objects or sees through things. Cine gives greater control over FOV and things like that I believe, but yeah just curious because I mostly want a dumb camera.

[ivory wraith]

The position and rotation of the camera

Your scripts would talk to the CinemachineCamera's position/rotation controls

[royal tartan]

Cinemachine also is used for transitioning between cameras and choosing which camera to show currently.

[odd elk]

I don't think I will need any of that but it could be useful in the future so I guess I'll muddle through it now just in case. thanks!

[ivory wraith]

I use Cinemachine for basically everything, even if I'm not planning to do any camera transitions!

[half shuttle]

As it turns out, I have made a really dumb error after fixing which everything worked as intended
I have disabled the cinemachine camera components on all the cameras inside a clearshot component, which I forgot about, as the cameras it switched to were some of the disabled ones
Enabling all the cameras inside the clearshot made them behave as indended

[harsh nebula]

is there a way to drive the "time" parameter of a blend with code? i want an interactive blend between two cameras where the blend parameter is controlled by player input

[late basin]

Use CinemachineMixingCamera https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/manual/CinemachineMixingCamera.html

[harsh nebula]

ahh perfect, thank you

[feral shadow]

Does cinemachine effect its target physics in any way ?
I used rigid body add force character control, and it didn't slide like it normally does

[drifting wave]

Could somebody please tell me how to disable the gizmo that seems to belong to the Cinemachine Rotation Composer? It's getting a bit distracting during playtesting.
I've tried disabling all game gizmos, but it stays visible. I've also tried disabling the one specific to the composer with the same result 🤔 If I deactivate the component, the gizmo goes away - but so does the functionality.

[drifting wave]

Found it! It's in the cinemachine main component and can be controlled with the dropdown entries:

[late basin]

Cinemachine does not interfere with the target in any way

[feral shadow]

oh, strange the character isn't sliding

[royal tartan]

the only thing it might do is change your camera position and rotation - so if your movement script depends on the camera position or rotation, then it might affect things.

but uh - yeah it's ultimately down to your movement code

[royal tartan]

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[sonic badge]

hi

i need help i want to make a FPP camera but if i attach it to the head it start bobbing with the animation and does not rotate freely of the body

[mental lake]

You wouldn't attach it to the head, it would be child of the capsule perhaps offset to height like (0.0f, 1.4f, 0.0f)

for FPP you want to avoid rotating on a pivot, in other words the camera rotates in its own space, not orbiting around at some XZ offset

[sonic badge]

currently the cinemachine camera is physicaly placed inside the player head and the model move in front of the camera durin the runnin or jump animation

[sonic badge]

what capsule can you explain a bit

[sonic badge]

so capsule of the gameobject

but will it move with the head like during jusp or when the character lean forward?

[mental lake]

The main idea is, the camera is at some Y offset to the Player GameObject. Not the skeleton's head in particular, which as you can see can be "in front of" the capsule or offset in general X/Z/ rotation etc

Often the Player GameObject has its pivot point at the feet, so an FPP camera is placed at (0, 1.5f, 0) or something.

It will move together with the GameObject. But not together with the character's head part of armature lol that would be very offputting.

@sonic badge usually FPP cameras don't do anything like that, they use FOV to "zoom" or other things.

[sonic badge]

RN its like this

[mental lake]

Having the camera within the Player GameObject can be tricky because it may rotate together with the GameObject.

[sonic badge]

i have to use FOSS as uni guideline for project so its made using the free asset of asset store

[mental lake]

https://youtu.be/0CDvSM9kEpU?t=362

This video seems to cover a variety of topics. FixedUpdate vs Update timing / interpolation too.

At 6:03 he shows basic FPP camera settings. I think Cinemachine has it fully built in - no code even needed 🤔

[sonic badge]

ok will watch it but my prof want a implementation of the synopsis tomorrow and it 12:12AM here i dont know weather he will like it or not

[sonic badge]

ok i will watch it

if i send you a vid can you see and tell if it will suffice?

[mental lake]

@sonic badge here are some other advanced videos if you really wanna learn the details 🗿
https://youtu.be/NsSk58un8E0
https://youtu.be/jSauntZrQro
https://youtu.be/YR6Q7dUz2uk

FPP is really simple ... Just use the Cinemachine built in stuff like in the other video

[sonic badge]

ok

ill try

thankyou and goodnight

[haughty trellis]

I'm new to using Unity/using dollys. I'd like the 2nd knot to arch the opposite direction. I'm not super picky about how things flow but I really don't like it getting closer and then backing off. Is this possible with a spline? Do I have to use a different approach? If yes, can you recommend the approach I should use. Here is what I have currently :

Here is roughly what I'm looking for :

[restive crane]

I believe I have a good understanding of why the jaggedness is happening but I wanted to check here with anyone that has experience with this issue. I am not sure if I'm on the right track with adding a slerp to ease the rotation.

Or possibly just seperate the camera and the movement entirely but I want to have the player's "Forward" position always align with the camera, is this a matter of the script or simply adjusting the rigidbody's attributes? I am going to be experimenting here in a few but wanted to ask just in case...

[royal tartan]

is this controlled by a mouse?

[restive crane]

Yes

[royal tartan]

I feel like adding any layer of smoothing or interpolation gets in the way of the 1:1 feeling of controlling rotation with a mouse, no?

It also frequently leads to issues

If you're having "jagginess", it's usually an issue with how you configured things or your code

[restive crane]

view direction and input directions are normalized and rigidbody physics are in fixedupdate... only thing I can think to do is adjust drag to make sure that the player isn't moving fast enough to get a heavy position change from rotation. I'm about to test that out but I don't think that will actually fix the issue. just prevent speed gain from the rotation..

Kind of a ridiculous question but using both input systems in this case wouldn't have anything to do with it right?

[restive crane]

Kind of fixed it. I tried putting the orientation and inputdirection components into Fixed and Late update (not both just tried the two) with some linear damping and that seemed to help the issue somewhat.

[royal tartan]

This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Wdym by a position change from rotation

If you're rotating in FixedUpdate you need to accumulate the mouse input in update and consume it in FixedUpdate

And then you need to be rotating in an interpolation friendly way

Can you show your code

[restive crane]

Yes uno momento

public class ThirdPersonCam : MonoBehaviour
{
    // Script for third person camera.

    public Transform orientation;
    public Transform player;
    public Transform playerObj;
    Vector3 viewDir;
    Rigidbody rb;
    public float rotationSpeed;
    private float verticalMovement;
    private float horizontalMovement;


    // Start is called once before the first execution of Update after the MonoBehaviour is created
    void Start()
    {
        Cursor.lockState = CursorLockMode.Locked;
        Cursor.visible = false;
    }

    // Update is called once per frame
    void Update()
    {
        GetInput();
        Debug.DrawRay(player.position, viewDir, Color.red);
    }
    void LateUpdate()
    {
        viewDir = player.position - new Vector3(transform.position.x, player.position.y, transform.position.z);

        // Sets orientation transform to view direction
        orientation.forward = viewDir.normalized;

        // sets player objects direction to orientation direction
        Vector3 inputDir = orientation.forward * verticalMovement + orientation.right * horizontalMovement;
        if (inputDir != Vector3.zero)
        {
            playerObj.forward = Vector3.Slerp(playerObj.forward, inputDir.normalized, Time.deltaTime * rotationSpeed);
        }
    }

    private void GetInput()
    {
        verticalMovement = Input.GetAxisRaw("Vertical");
        horizontalMovement = Input.GetAxisRaw("Horizontal");
    }
}

public class PlayerController : MonoBehaviour
{
    Rigidbody rb;
    public float movementSpeed;
    public float jumpHeight;


    public Transform orientation;
    public Transform player;
    private float verticalInput;
    private float horizontalInput;

    Vector3 movementDir;
    public float playerHeight;
    bool isGrounded;
    void Start()
    {
        rb = GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
        rb.freezeRotation = true;
    }
    void Update()
    {
        isGrounded = Physics.Raycast(transform.position, Vector3.down, playerHeight * 0.5f + 0.2f);

        if (Input.GetButtonDown("Jump") && isGrounded)
        {
            rb.AddForce(Vector3.up * jumpHeight, ForceMode.Impulse);
        }
        MyInput();
    }
    void FixedUpdate()
    {
        MovePlayer();

    }
    private void MyInput()
    {
        verticalInput = Input.GetAxis("Vertical");
        horizontalInput = Input.GetAxis("Horizontal");


    }
    private void MovePlayer()
    {
        movementDir = orientation.forward * verticalInput + orientation.right * horizontalInput;
        rb.AddForce(movementDir.normalized * movementSpeed, ForceMode.Force);

        if (movementDir != Vector3.zero)
        {
            player.forward = Vector3.Slerp(player.forward, movementDir.normalized, Time.deltaTime * 5f);
        }

    }

}

I haven't cleaned up the code yet, sorry abt that

[royal tartan]

Ok so you're directly modifying your Rigidbody's Transform

That's a problem

It's going to break interpolation

You need to be only touching the Rigidbody

You're also changing it in both Late update and fixed

[restive crane]

With the camera rotation you mean?

And changing the orientation in fixed and late with both scripts, I see what you mean

[royal tartan]

Oh that's even worse you have multiple scripts doing it too

[restive crane]

So, the camera script by itself is okay, but what you're saying is by using the orientation gameobject to drive the direction in the playercontroller script is causing issues? Let me know if I'm misunderstanding what you're saying

Nvm I see what you're saying and understand it now, thank you.

[ivory wraith]

@cursive spindle answering #💻┃code-beginner message in here:

Nothing has changed about how priority works. I think the idea is to nudge you to use things other than priority to control which camera goes live.

For example, in my game, I have a camera controller that decides which camera is supposed to be live, and all of the other virtual cameras are turned off

Priority can be a bit janky. If you increase a camera's priority to 10 so that it beats a camera with a priority of 5, it'll also start beating other cameras with priorities in the 6-9 range

[wispy sun]

Can anyone help me get the cinemachine input axis controller to work? The only thing working so far is the default map that came with it. I've tried setting the scroll wheel but it has zero effect and I can't figure out why. Additionally, when I set it to the scroll wheel, the input value field changes when i scroll, but the camera does not move

[cosmic dust]

can someone help me out with a camera issue?
im using cinemachine to follow the player, but for some reason the camera's only rendering my background colour and nothing else, and theres no code interacting with the camera.

heres how it should look:

[royal tartan]

How did you configure the cinemachine camera?

and what position is your camera ending up having?

Make sure the z position of the camera is not the same as that of the player

[cosmic dust]

it was a combo of that and for some reason my player had its own camera... tysm!!!

[fading talon]

Hey all, using cinemachine for a third person spectator camera. When a player dies, the player's main camera swaps to an orbital third person camera positioned on another player. When I disable the first person camera and enable the spectator camera, there's this weird smooth pan between the two. How do I remove that?

[royal tartan]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/manual/ControllingAndCustomizingBlends.html

[fading talon]

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

[fast quest]

I'm having issues that I need help with, my camera is moving on its own slightly

nvm i'm dumb, it was from the peril noise that I got from the unity first person start asset that

[wispy sun]

lol I was gonna suggest that

I had the same problem, it was that and the other time I had an xbox controller leaning on one of the sticks

[pseudo tinsel]

i'm trying to have a dynamic camera for dialogue that puts the person talking around the center of the screen and the person listening near the left. one weird requirement i have is that it has to work at any angle, so if both the people are upside down or on a wall, the camera is at their average angle. i've been trying it with the target group follow extension, on regular ground the position and rotation arent as consistent as id like it (id like them to be in the exact same place every time if possible), and on tilted/upside down ground the rotation doesn't seem to work at all. i'm probably doing something completely wrong because i'm new to cinemachine, any advice?

[cerulean ore]

Hello. I am having a problem with Cinemachine cameras. I currently have two Unity cameras (P1Cam and P2Cam) each with a Cinemachine Brain component, and two cameras (P1CamBrain and P2CamBrain) that are Cinemachine cameras with Cinemachine Virtual Camera components, Cinemachine Orbital Follow, and Cinemachine Input Axis Controller. My problem is that when I start the scene, I can freely move the Player 1's camera, but not the Player 2's. And when I restart the scene using scripts, I can now move the Player 2's camera and not the Player 1's. Player 1 uses an Xbox Controller with it's own controller scheme and Player 2 uses keyboard and mouse. Any help?

[royal tartan]

sounds like an input issue not a cinemachine issue

you'd have to show how you hooked everything up

[cerulean ore]

This would be my Input Actions, and if I'm not mistaken, I've set the actions up correctly on my Cinemachine Input Axis Controller

[royal tartan]

these look like two completely different action maps. And I don't see anything about the control schemes

And you're using the PlayerInput component here too somehow? How is that set up?

#🖱️┃input-system

[ebon charm]

im getting this after installing cinemachine

on unity 6.3

inspecting the code it seems like something for urp and im on hdrp so i just removed it 🤷‍♂️

[feral shadow]

So I'm trying to make third person cam and first person cam look the same direction when switching, but they don't match and I don't know what's the problem

third person cam uses cinemachine
first person uses a regular camera

I use this code to make them match, but third person goes back to where I left it, and first person just goes to default
FP_Cam_Transform.rotation = MainCamera_Transform.rotation; (on third person script when enabled)
MainCamera_Transform.rotation = FP_Cam_Transform.rotation; (on third person script when enabled)

[opal steeple]

have you checked if the internal smoothing state of the cinemachine camera was cleared or have you instructed it to clear all cached state that may cause glitches. There are various APIs on cinemachine cameras to override/set/match their state. Changes to the transform are generally overwritten immediately by cinemachine's internal logic.

[feral shadow]

Gonna take a look, thanks

[sharp mountain]

Anyone got a good Idea on how I can add a trigger to switch to a different camera.
context, I'm doing a turn based RPG esc style, and there is an overworld, and an Arena world.
What I'm trying to do is that when the player collides with a rigid body that has the "Enemy" tag, it switches over to CombatCam, that way I don't have to make CombatCam a child of the the rigidbody that uses the "Enemy" tag.

i'm pretty new to programming in general so i've been wracking my brain over how to actually do this

[royal tartan]

Sounds like you have it all figured out already, what part are you confused about?

[vapid cedar]

You need a script to make the MainCamera Keep same rotation as ur virtual camera in order to both keep facing the same area.

[sharp mountain]

Just connecting the enemy up to the camera without placing the camera as a child, that way I can have multiple enemies linked to one camera

Lemme grab the video, it has the code inside

Main issue is, by taking the camera off as the child to enemy, it'll no longer work and I have idea why

[sharp mountain]

Unless someone else has a different way of doing it

[royal tartan]

Generally with cinemachine you would just have as many CinemachineCameras you need pre-configured, and you either use priorities, or enable/disable them as needed to switch.

Also please - don't share code in a video

very hard to read that way

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[sharp mountain]

Apologies, only way I could, not home

[sharp mountain]

So what you're say is, it might be better that each spawned enemy comes with a camera?

Since the idea is persona esc, you walk into an enemy, and it sends you to combat

If there are 3 enemies in the area, would it better for those 3 enemies to have their own camera directly in the same spot? Which would be the combat arena?

Like, what's seen in the video, the camera switches to a combat camera in a different version of the map, is it not gonna cost me resources to have 3 of those guys duplicated?

[royal tartan]

Cinemachine cameras are intended to be used liberally

they cost next to nothing when they're not active

[sharp mountain]

Oh

So having each enemy copy have its own camera might not actually be that bad?

And I'm going through the struggle of having each enemy tied to one camera system for no real reason?

Which means I can just continue to work on the fundamental systems instead of getting stuck on one thing

I think I have that right?

[feral shadow]

xRotation keeps defaulting to 0, so the cam always looks forward
I followed this tutorial for first person cam
https://youtu.be/f473C43s8nE?si=MJda8A1lk9IjhInV

[naive oyster]

any idea why my cinemachine camera won't rotate? i'm using third person follow and hard look at. if i disable the third person follow, it'll rotate to point at the tracking target cause hard look at. it forces all rotations to be 0 with third person follow enabled

[royal tartan]

you'd have to show us your setup

the answer to "why is my cinemachine camera doing XXX" is usually "because that's how it's configured"

[naive oyster]

like a screen grab of the inspector for the cinemachine?

[royal tartan]

sure

[naive oyster]

trying to make a strategy game type camera where it orbits around an anchor

i could look up a guide on youtube but i'd rather try debugging it first

i'm using 6.3 if that helps

it broke in 3.1.4 to 3.1.5 i was copying my old project and tried updating old project's cinemachine

now to figure out if i can downgrade cinemachine or if i have to make do

[naive oyster]

so turns out it forces the camera to copy the tracking target's rotation

the third person follow is in position and overwrites the rotation component

[royal tartan]

If you hit this gear thing

you can set separate Follow + Look targets

[naive oyster]

witchcraft

lol ty i see it now

i had gone to use an orbital follow control which works similar but has it's own quirks

eh it still forces the camera to have the same rotation as the tracking target while third person follow is active not allowing hard look at to work. i'll keep to the orbital follow for now

[dim goblet]

Does the new Cinemachine decollider not work with concave mesh colliders? Mine seems to be working just fine with box colliders but not the walls in my room, which is just a ring of inward-facing quads. They're all on the same layer.

[royal tartan]

If your mesh collider is single sided it's likely there's nothing for the decollider Raycasts to hit

[dim goblet]

Where do the rays cast from? The walls are face the camera, so if the rays are cast from the camera's location then they should hit the walls.

[royal tartan]

I thought you said the walls were inward-facing?

[dim goblet]

Sorry, Maybe I described it wrong. The camera is in the center surrounded by quads that face the camera. I meant they are inward facing in that sense. The mesh collider is like an inside-out cylinder with the camera inside.

[royal tartan]

so what are you hoping the decollider will do for you?

You're trying to prevent the camera from leaving the box?

IIRC, the rays go from teh camera towards the thing the camera is looking at. Once the camera leaves the box it will be outside this inward-facing box so those raycasts wouldn't hit anything

[dim goblet]

Yes, exactly. It's just an interior scene and I don't want the camera to get outside of the room. If the camera were outside the room, then there would be nothing for the raycast to hit, but I would have assumed that the decollision component would prevent the camera from getting outside in the first place.

[dim goblet]

Actually, the more I work with Cinemachine 3.1.4, the more frustrating it is. I had the perfect camera set-up with just a few clicks in Cinemachine 2, but with 3.1.4 I just can't figure out how to get the behavior I want with all these weird settings whose names don't mean anything to me. I don't see other people complaining, so maybe it's just me.

[reef pecan]

trying to limit the camera, I made a boxcollider around the whole map that is pretty small. I had to assign "Ignore Raycast" layer. The view gets stuck inside the box but the Camera it self can still walk even futher outside of the map. How would I go around this?

[weak jay]

hi, I've always used regular cameras and would want to use cinemachine cameras now especially to add a hiding system in my game with blending with a first person controller, I've watched some tutorials but very a few of them show what I'm looking for, most of the FP person controllers setup I have are simple Character Controller and a child camera, how could I achieve what I want simply?

[late basin]

There are many ways to do FP with Cinemachine. The simplest way for you would probably be to continue using your Character Controller script, almost exactly as-is. Just replace the Camera component with a CinemachineCamea component, and update the script to expect that rather than Camera. In the CinemachineCamera component, set all the procedural stuff to "none". That way, the CinemachineCamera is 100% controlled by your script (as before) but the difference is that now it's part of the Cinemachine ecosystem and can participate in blends etc. You can also add procedural noise and CinemachineExtensions if you want. You'll need to create a separate Camera GameObject, and add a CinemachineBrain component to it. See here for a general overview of how CM works: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/manual/concept-essential-elements.html

[weak jay]

thankk you soo much

[weak jay]

I've just finished reading the most important parts of the documentation, but I didn't really find how to blend from one camera to another the best way via script, they just tell that you can set a cinemachine camera to live in the inspector and also with the priority values, if I want to make a hiding system, how should I do it? I'd like to blend from the fps cam to a non moving cinemachine camera with a function and then comeback to the fps cam with a function too

should I just change the priorities ? via script

[late basin]

You can manipulate the priorities by script, or activate/deactivate CinemachineCamera GameObjects. It's up to you how you want to organize things. If you have multiple active CM cameras, the one with the highest priority will take control. If there are multiple CM cameras with the same highest priority, then the most-recently-activated one will win.

[pulsar mason]

Hi, my artist can't update CM to CM 3 in his machine, even tho i've updated it to CM 3 and pushed in the repo

Anyone know why the option to update to 3 doesn't show up?

It only says update to 2.105

[late basin]

Probably because artist is using Unity 2022.3. CM3 is still available, but you have to ask for it specifically: https://discussions.unity.com/t/how-do-i-install-a-specific-version-of-cinemachine/927513

[late basin]

If you've pushed it in the repo, then all users of the repo should get it automatically, no further action required. Did you forget to push the project's manifest?

[pulsar mason]

I did push the manifest yes

[pulsar mason]

This is interesting yes
I remember CM got updated to 3 bcoz i was updating some unity package which asks for dependencies update

[late basin]

Well in that case it makes no sense that your artist needs to manually upgrade - it should happen by itself. Did they pull the latest from your repo?

[royal tartan]

You and your artist should take a look at your Packages/Manifest.json files on your machines. Do they match? Are you sure VCS isn't saying they are out of sync?

[kindred lintel]

So when I am testing in game with a cinemachine camera set up, the borders of the game window seem to be flashing white for some reason. Any idea why?

[tranquil berry]

They're presumably the gizmos for the cinemachine camera

[twilit pier]

Hey everyone, running into a CM problem that I think may be quite common. Essentially I have set up a free look camera CM with the new 3.1.4 package and it works pretty well except for one thing. Since the rigidbody movement of my character is also depending on the camera forward vector and I rotate that character also depending on this camera transform vector I can see jittery movement when my character moves forward and rotates only with the camera rotation.

So I make my character move forward, I slightly rotate the camera to the right and I can see that it jitters and doesn't rotate smoothly.

I have tried a bunch of things:

• Setting interpolate in the character Rigidbody.
• Changing the update method on the CM brain.
• Decoupling the moment I access the camera transform vector in another update method and caching it for usage in the FixedUpdate method or LateUpdate.
• Tried setting the Position Damping of the CinemachineOrbitalFollow component all to zero.

Nothing works properly and I can't get smooth jitter-free rotation as you can see in the video.

DISCLAIMER: In the video it seems even more than what it is probably to lower frame rate, but it's still pretty evident.

Here is the code that handles the rotation. This is called from the WalkingState's Fixed Update (also tried LateUpdate):

    if(_player.movementInput.magnitude > 0.001)
    {        
       Vector3 cameraForward = _player.cameraForward;
       Vector3 cameraRight = _player.cameraRight;
       Vector3 direction = cameraForward * _player.movementInput.y + cameraRight * _player.movementInput.x;
       direction.y = 0;
       _lookRotation = Quaternion.LookRotation(direction);
     }
     _targetRotation = Quaternion.Slerp(_player.rb.rotation, _lookRotation, _player.rotationSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime);
     _player.rb.MoveRotation(_targetRotation.normalized);
}```

[royal tartan]

Can you show:

• Where this _player.movementInput comes from? How is it populated, when is it populated?

Wait actually - all of this is kinda confusing for me

Where are these coming from:

       Vector3 cameraForward = _player.cameraForward;
       Vector3 cameraRight = _player.cameraRight;```

are those direction vectors?

[twilit pier]

Those are all coming from the PlayerController mother class of the StateMachine essentially. A container that handles state transition and setting up of variables.

The movementInput is generated from the PlayerInput component and invoking the HandleMoveInput method. In the Update I then get the cameraTransform.forward/right and assign them to the variables. Initially I was doing this step directly inside the rotation function, but then I decoupled it to test out wether it would fix something. I hope you can see properly from the screenshot, if not I'll paste the text

[royal tartan]

ok so you're actually just making the player rotation totally based on the camera rotation, not actually based on input

well, camera rotation mixed with the walking direction of the player

[twilit pier]

Yeah exactly

Was about to mention the mixing with the walking direction

Could this mixing be an issue? I wouldn't think so

[royal tartan]

I would try this:

     Quaternion newRotation = Quaternion.RotateTowards(_player.rb.rotation, _lookRotation, _player.rotationSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime);
     _player.rb.MoveRotation(newRotation);```

How is your camera rotation handled exactly? Through Cinemachine components?

Oh wait, also one major piece of the puzzle - does your player's Rigidbody have interpolation enabled?

[twilit pier]

Now yes

It didn't improve much

[royal tartan]

And you're rotating through cinemachine?

[twilit pier]

With this code it doesn't rotate at all actually. I simply substituted the Slerp and now nothing happens, I'll check documentation of how that works

[twilit pier]

Rotating the camera or the player?

[royal tartan]

can you show the full resulting code you used?

[twilit pier]

In any case I am rotating the camera only using cinemachine components, an extra thing I added was a customInputHandler script because otherwise I would have too different sensibilities for mouse rotation and controller rotation:

[twilit pier]

Here's the resulting code causing no rotation at all

[royal tartan]

Oh actually I bet it's probably causing rotation just VERY SLOW

Can you try increasing _player.rotationSpeed?

like, a lot 😛

SOmething like 50 or 100 would be a good value @twilit pier

[twilit pier]

Yeah ahahah literally just fixed it

So yes, increasing it to 1000 did the trick

But the jittery when moving forward and changing direction with the camera is still there

[royal tartan]

Ok I have another suggestion for you:

1. Move the rotation code to LateUpdate instead of FixedUpdate
2. Change the code to:

Quaternion newRotation = Quaternion.RotateTowards(_player.rb.rotation, _lookRotation, _player.rotationSpeed * Time.deltaTime);
_player.rb.rotation = newRotation;```

[twilit pier]

Done and it made the problem worse as now it's jittering even when walking normally in any direction. Tried changing the update methods of the CM brain, but nothing. Removing interpolate in the rb helps a bit (still doesn't fix the original problem), but I know it is not optimal in this case and I think I will need it in the future in any case

I really can't wrap my head around this issue

[royal tartan]

I'll be honest in your video above I didn't actually see any "jittering"

so maybe what you're describing as jittering is something else

[twilit pier]

It's not easy to see from the video because of the low frame rates I think, but it's quite noticeable in the game mode at very high frame rates. Not sure how to showcase it properly

[royal tartan]

maybe a silly question but have you constrained the rotation on your Rigidbody?

[twilit pier]

I actually have, all three axes

Is that an issue?

[royal tartan]

that's good

[late basin]

@twilit pier @royal tartan https://discussions.unity.com/t/rigidbody-cinemachine-jitters-with-without-interpolate/1594117/2

[tight lichen]

how do I make my camera only track my player on the x axis?

[royal tartan]

Two simple-ish approaches:

1. Use a huge y axis deadzone
2. Write a simple script to move an empty object to the player's x position and a fixed y position in LateUpdate, and have your cinemachine camera follow that empty object instead of the player itself

[kindred lintel]

2 questions for people who make third person cameras with cinemachine:

1. How do you make a perfectly spherical camera orbit (with some logical vertical clamps)
2. What do you personally like in your third person cameras and how do you achieve that (don't need to be super detailed, just basic ideas)

[cursive cape]

Hello i ask for help in unity chat and they told me to go here

How to fix this

[royal tartan]

This doesn't look Cinemachine related. More like a #💻┃code-beginner or #🖱️┃input-system question

(they told you to go to #💻┃code-beginner not here)

[hoary sentinel]

What happened to simple follow with world up option? Trying to override the world up in brain to players up and have this freelook rotate with it but the lock to world up rotates the camera to follow the player which is wrong

For a spherical gravity controller

[hoary sentinel]

is there a reason that i cant see that in the spherical camera demo scene for cinemachine, the lock to target mode doesnt auto rotate the camera to the players fwd?

[acoustic briar]

Anyone here think they could help me with changing the Horizontal Axis of a freelook camera in a script?

specifically the Horizontal Axis Valuei nt he Cinemachine Orbital Follower

[royal tartan]

generally you'll want to share details of what you tried and what's going wrong with it

[acoustic briar]

I don't know what to call it

what do I call to directly change the Horizontal Axis Value

[royal tartan]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.0/api/Unity.Cinemachine.CinemachineOrbitalFollow.HorizontalAxis.html

[acoustic briar]

ok I put public InputAxies HorizontalAxis in, but when I get an error when I do HorizontalAxis = 90;

[royal tartan]

Yeah it's an InputAxis not an int

also you probably don't want or need a field for this.

[acoustic briar]

why? Then how will it know I want to change the Horizontal Axis?

[acoustic briar]

Then what can I put into an InputAxis?

[royal tartan]

How would making a random InputAxis field tell it anything

[acoustic briar]

thats what the link told me to do

[royal tartan]

you need to change the value on your CinemachineOrbitalFollower component

[royal tartan]

it is absolutely not

the documentation is simply describing the field that exists on CinemachineOrbitalFollower

it's not telling you what code to write

documentation describes the existing code

[royal tartan]

An InputAxis

here, you probably need an example

[acoustic briar]

ok then, forget the InputAxis what do I need to put in to change the value on a CinemachineorbitalFollower Horizontal Axis?

[royal tartan]

Example:```cs
// Assign this to your orbital folloer component in the inspector
[SerializeField] CinemachineOrbitalFollow orbitalFollow;

void SetAxisAngle(float angle) {
InputAxis axisData = orbitalFollow.HorizontalAxis;
axisData.Value = angle;
orbitalFollow.HorizontalAxis = axisData;
}```

[acoustic briar]

So I put this into a script?

[royal tartan]

Where else would code go?

[acoustic briar]

Well I put it in and I'm getting errors so I'm checking

[royal tartan]

what errors are you getting?

[acoustic briar]

Says the namespace CinemachineOrbitalFollower could not be found

[royal tartan]

it's not a namespace

That's definitely not the whole message

show the code you tried and show the full error message

[royal tartan]

Ok read the full message in the future

But yeah it's not CinemachineOrbitalFollower

it's CinemachineOrbitalFollow

[acoustic briar]

I see

[royal tartan]

Also you didn't quite copy the code structure correctly

[acoustic briar]

yes I noticed I fixed that

it seemed it autocorrected it alot and I didn't see

[royal tartan]

anyway this code isn't going to do anything on its own, you'd need to actually call this function with whatever value you want to actually set to it

[acoustic briar]

got it thank you

[acoustic briar]

Ok, now I'm having trouble figuring out how to access the Input Value in Cinemachine Input Access Controller

[mental apex]

I have a Spline, I want the camera that follows the spline - to have the rotation the same as the knot rotation.
is that possible?
the camera seems to always require a lookat target.

the spline dolly look at targets requires lookat targets

[pulsar mason]

Hi i'm having a weird problem. The transform component of my camera is like this and a bunch of errors is freezing my editor

After a while, editor crashes

Posting here bcoz it may have something to do with cinemachine

Nvm, reset editor layout and that fixes it i guess

Btw another thing. My virtual camera's rotation is something (30,90,0)
But my camera CM brain object's rotation has different value
It's not a big problem if they're actually poiting to the same and same up direction
But sometimes the difference ends up having random small values

Like these
And i see it starts changing bcoz i guess the Deoccluder feature. It adjusts when it hits some collider otw
But when the camera completely moves out of the occluder, it doesn't return to the original rotation
The tilting adds up and eventually my camera's not in the same rotation (among others, the Y rotation) anymore

[royal tartan]

Do either of these objects have a parent object?

[urban otter]

my cinemachine deoccluder not working

[pulsar mason]

Yes

I also notice my deoccluding behaviour also involves a "steering" kinda tilt. Like, Z axis rotation (camera view wise) that doesn't always return to 0
And only happens when the deoccluding. When there's no occlusion, this Z tilt doesn't happen

[royal tartan]

that's why the numbers are different. They are local values

generally in cinemachine it doesn't make a lot of sense for either cinemachine cameras or the main camera to be children of anything

[pulsar mason]

I mean it used to work just fine. Forgot when but definitely before i upgraded to CM 3

[pulsar mason]

Can this be turned off?

I've confirmed that even when the VC and the camera (with CM brain) has no parent, this behaviour still happens

Ya actually there is no Z rotation. Just X and Y

Why can't the deoccluder just zooms in until it gets out of the occluding object? And not do any rotation at all?
My deoccluder's strategy is already "Pull Camera Forward"

[pulsar mason]

Dampinig when occluded to 0 do help prevent this tilting, but still not fully gone

[pulsar mason]

And also, even with these 2 having no parent, the rotation of the main camera still end up flipping around (Z -180 etc)

I guess i gotta revert back to CM 2

[hoary sentinel]

Been trying to solve this for a day and asked previously but couldn’t solve.

Anyone know what replacement for this is in cinemachine 3?

Have the brain camera overriding world up, but in the rotation composer, I don’t want the camera auto locking to the players fwd direction all the time

Or anyway to disable the yaw rotation in lock to target?

[hoary sentinel]

also in this cinemachine demo they have the orbital binding mode set to lock to target yet the camera doesnt rotate towards the players forward which the docs say is supposed to happen

[acoustic briar]

Hi! I'm trying to figure out how to detect mousemovement using the InputValue in Look Orbix X but I'm having trouble figuring out how to check that variable in a script

[acoustic briar]

I've tried this but I'm getting errors

[pulsar mason]

Hi just making sure. I had CM 2, updated to CM 3 but having issues
I'm on unity 2022.3.55
I only somehow updated to CM 3 bcoz a dependency of a unity asset requires (recommends?) to update to CM 3

Now that i see in the package manager, CM 2 is still the "Recommended/Release" and there's no label on CM 3
When i downgraded, CM 3 no longer appears as an option in the package manager

So my question is basically, is CM 3 still experimental? Or it's not recommended for unity 2022?
Can anyone confirm that CM 2 is still much more stable and reliable in general, specifically for unity 2022 or in general?

[late basin]

CM3 is the most stable and reliable version, for 2022.3 and up. Officially it's only for Unity6 and up (which is why you don't see it in package manager and have to intentionally install it by name and version, but it does work for 2022.3). Some behaviour might be a little different when compared to CM2, but that doesn't mean it's less stable.

[pulsar mason]

The deoccluder is not behaving properly. As in, i have to consider it broken even
Related thread https://community.gamedev.tv/t/cinemachinedeoccluder-behaviour/253065/7
Altho i don't understand his last sentence in the last paragraph

One caveat, however, is that it appears that the DeOccluder doesn’t memorize where it was when you encountered the occlusion… this means that for something like a freelook camera, the return position may not be where it was when you started. It should return to a calculated position based on the positioning component’s calculations. (This was actually true of CM2’s CinemachineCollider as well)
Does he mean the original position also gets forgotten in CM 2 ? Or it works properly in CM 2?

I just confirmed, i downgraded to CM 2 and did all the changes back, and this deoccluder (it's called CinemachineCollider) behaves properly. No accumulating tilt on rot X/Y, and no "steering left/right tilt" behavior either (which i think is from the DampingWhenOccluded. But i turned this to 0 and in CM 3 it still damps, while in CM 2 it's properly 100% snapping and not accumulating tilt)

[acoustic briar]

Anyone?

[mental apex]

I think you shouldn't touch the input axis controller.
It auto feeds the values to the other Cinemachine components. (in the manual they are called axis drivers)
so you are probably looking for the values from the CinemachineCamera or it's components

[upbeat owl]

Can someone explain to me why the Material Converter, ALSO converts Cinemachine across all scenes suddenly with no warnings?

[errant shard]

What do you mean by "converts" cinemachine?

[upbeat owl]

I ran the material converter and suddenly my console was spewing out that something found a cinemachine game object without a spline or adding a dollycart spline to a game object that had a script on it that referenced it and such (see screenshot). It was absolutely bonkers additions to and since I have many cinemachine components in my app, it made a mess of it all. I never asked for it and it never even warned me that cinemachine updates were part of the material conversation process. Perhaps it was a bug that caused the converter to trigger a reimport of cinemachine components? No idea but I had to go to a backup and lost 90 mins in the process.

Just prior to this I did a Library reimport and none of these issues came up and they are not even issues to worry about. Was a very odd experience.

[errant shard]

Judging from how many unrelated errors you have it's likely not anything to do with Cinemachine exactly, and maybe not with the material converter directly either

Rather the whole asset importer process crashed and broke a bunch of things

Some crashes with the error code 10054 you have there were fixed in newer patches of 6000.0. in case you're using an old one

[vivid walrus]

hello,how could I make a lookat transform system with cinemachine camera, the virtual camera should rotate and look at a specified transform during a specified time and then rotate back to its original rotation?

[errant shard]

Make another CM camera that's set to track the specified transform, and swap between them by disabling/enabling

[vivid walrus]

ohh okay that's what I thought to do but that wouldn't look natural tho would it? I want it to look like the player just wants to turn you know and not go from one camera to another

[errant shard]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/manual/ControllingAndCustomizingBlends.html
It is designed to help with that

And by default it does a smooth blend to another CM cam when the active one is disabled

[vivid walrus]

okayyy thank you so much man

[vivid walrus]

sorry to disturb you again, but I just did it, made another virtual camera with higher priority, set it unactive in the scene, once I want this cam to lookat the transform, I set the camera active for a float amount of time, I disable the PlayerMovement script too and then I simply set it unactive back but this doesn't work as expected, the rotation never does so,I just added the transform to the lookat in the component btw

[errant shard]

You can test CM cameras separately and I recommend doing so before testing the blend
Both of them as the sole enabled CM camera should move and rotate as you expect

Specifying a target is not alone enough, at least not in CM3, you also need a CM component to use the target for a particular kind of rotation

[vivid walrus]

by CM, you mean Cinemachine Camera? if yes, I already have it as I'm using cinemachine virtual cameras

[errant shard]

CM 3 calls them Cinemachine Cameras or CM cameras
CM 2.9 calls them virtual cameras
They are the same thing but configured a bit differently

[vivid walrus]

yes and that's what I'm using, I just put a lookat transform in the component field lookat and it doesn't work

you said I'd need a CM component too and I have one..

[errant shard]

Which one? I listed two possible CM versions

[vivid walrus]

cm3

[errant shard]

Yes, like I said it's not enough to specify a look at target because you don't additionally have a component on the CM camera to specify what to do with the look at target, as there are many ways to "look at" something

When you set a Rotation Control or add an extension it will add a CM component

You probably want a Rotation Composer or Hard Look At as the Rotation Control

CM components are different from the CM camera component, I don't blame you for being confused

[vivid walrus]

adding just one of these extensions would make this work?

[errant shard]

You may need to tweak the settings for it to work as you hope, but likely yes

[vivid walrus]

when you said CM component I thought you meant the CM camera component lol which was also why I was confused

[errant shard]

I recommend you read the first few chapters of the documentation so it will make sense
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/manual/get-started.html
CM is meant to be used in a particular way, and luckily the docs are brief and well written

You can also import sample scenes from the package manager for CM, which will show exactly what kind of camera actions can be achieved and how

[vivid walrus]

okayy thank you I'll do it right now, I've already read it a month ago or something like this but it was more to learn Cinemachine cameras themselves for First person etc not specifically for something

[errant shard]

The introductory part is the most important one
How they relate to real cameras, how the brain manages the virtual cameras and how the CM components control the motion of the virtual cameras

[vivid walrus]

for real lol

[acoustic briar]

How do I make it so that the cinemachine free look camera moves based on a leftmousebutton being held down?

[acoustic briar]

like I only want the camera to move if the left mouse button is pressed and the mouse moves

[unreal wadi]

How do I create a camera that follows the player only when they're towards the edge of the screen? I saw someone doing this with "dead zones" in a tutorial just now, but it looks like they were using an old version of Cinemachine that has some differences. the dead zone part on my camera doesn't seem to do the same thing

[royal tartan]

Dead zones sounds correct. Perhaps share the details of your setup

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.0/manual/CinemachineUsing.html#composing-a-shot

[unreal wadi]

nvm I figured it out, I had picked the wrong camera and the dead zone variable in that one was affecting something else I guess

[errant shard]

The server's not a place to solicit work

[late vine]

I recently updated from Unity 6 to Unity 6.3 and I noticed the Deoccluder stopped working, I opened up the script and noticed the enitire #if CINEMACHINE_PHYSICS section is now grayed out. The project sample works, but my scene implementation doesn't work... I'm missing something post-upgrade but can't figure it out

[royal tartan]

Check your project's physics settings

is PhysX enabled?

[late vine]

So after some testing this morning, there's some kind of bug in CM 3.1.5 where the Deoccluder component is ignored with the CM Third Person Follow component and requires you to check "Use Follow Target". However, if you check that, you get a really poor occluding result with some clipping and poor quality for handling camera distance, likely due to new damping code.

After falling back to 3.1.2 (which is what I was using before the upgrade to 6.3LTS), the issue resolved itself.

So I guess if anyone is trying to use the Deoccluder with the Third Person Follow is going to run into this as well. You can use the "avoid obstacles" in the TPF component as well, but it's not as graceful as the Deoccluder.

[ivory wraith]

I wonder if I'm the reason the "Use Follow Target" option was added in the first place (i asked about it in the Cinemachine forums after editing the package to add that)

so uh, i guess this is my fault 😉

[late vine]

Probably should have tagged Gregory but don't want to bother the dude... I bet he's the only dev working on CM as it is. 😓

[bright nova]

im following a cinemachine tutorial and the tutorial author is able to visually see the geometry of the orbital follow, whereas I have the same setting and am achieving the same functionality but do not see the same thing in my scene preview. Screenshots attached. Is there some setting or something I'm missing?

[errant shard]

Check your scene view gizmo visiblity button

[bright nova]

hmm thanks, I don't see that. Am I overlooking it?

[errant shard]

The arrow points to the one you need
Circled ones are useful to have

[bright nova]

thank you!!

[royal mason]

Guys I am just starting to use Unity and I know this is probably the most noob question but how to I get into the scene view? I don't really know what I did but I can't scale and rotate around the 3d scene like I was able to do in the tutorials. I'm guessing I'm in 'Game View' or something. I can't click the cube I created to make adjustments, and I can't change my camera view.

[royal tartan]

Window -> General -> Scene
Or right click on the title of any tab and Add Tab -> Scene

[royal mason]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[vestal hedge]

Why does it look so choppy when the cinemachine tracks an object

[royal tartan]

you've configured something incorrectly.

And/or your object's movement is actually choppy

[vestal hedge]

It wasnt choppy until I did the cinemachine thing.

[royal tartan]

It maybe was choppy in a different way. But I really can't help you any more than this unless you provide details about how everything is set up

THe most common issue is Rigidbody motion without a proper interpolation setup and/or code breaking the interp

[vestal hedge]

ohh ok

[plain warren]

can we change clipping planes in cinemachine camera. i am unable. the value reverts back to default on changing.

[errant shard]

Yes, you should be able to

[plain warren]

Bro i try sliding it doesn't change. I enter a value and it reverts to default

Why is this happening?

[errant shard]

Where are you changing it exactly, and to what value

[plain warren]

Also i am getting this weird wall clipping issue i talked about in #💻┃unity-talk

near and far clipping panes

[errant shard]

You have to change it in your cinemachine camera

[plain warren]

in cinemachine brain? or cinemachine camera?

[errant shard]

Cinemachine camera

[plain warren]

i cant find it

oh yeah its under lens

damn should have looked for it before

thanks though my issue is resolved now

it was so obvious

[errant shard]

I guess less obvious now that cinemachine cameras are no longer called "virtual cameras"
So no confusion about whether CM cam refers to the real camera, the brain or a virtual camera

[plain warren]

i have another issue but its not related to cinemachine. my unity is crashing a lot. i am using hdrp and my ram is 16 gb. it crashes even when i open one tab of youtube in side.

so i cant follow tutorials properly

the fact that its not crashing with discord is such a life saver

i have a 3050 laptop. is it normal for this hardware?

[errant shard]

Crash logs may reveal something
I had 16 GB ram and easily had multiple unity projects open, HDRP or otherwise, while using other programs at the same time

[plain warren]

wth u mean by multiple

i barely can run a single

😭

i thought it was a ram issue

also i have a laptop if that makes any difference

AND IT CRASHED AGAIN LMAO!

[errant shard]

I wouldn't blame ram for it primarily
Could be due to anything

Maybe even something with your particular editor version or project, rather than unity itself or your hardware

[cold orchid]

im using this configuration for an orbital camera which only moves if i click and drag the screen, but i want the camera to permanently move with the mouse, i was told to rebind to mouse delta but that doesent seem to work or register

[gloomy aspen]

hello, i have a problem in cinemachine where is my cinemachine seems like its running on 60 fps even though i have 400 fps what maybe the problem

[gloomy aspen]

hi guys i still have the same problem its very choppy

[errant shard]

Cinemachine doesn't have its own FPS
Unless you have set it to "fixed update"
On the other hand if your tracked objects are moving in the lower FPS fixed update, such as as uninterpolated rigidbodies, they appear choppy relative to CM camera's smooth movement

So, make sure your CM camera is in smart update
Make sure your rigidbodies have interpolation on
Make sure your code isn't overwriting the position of any rigidbodies, or moving objects in fixed update

[gloomy aspen]

it maybe not about fps, but the camera doesnt move smoothly it looks choppy

[errant shard]

Advice applies nonetheless

[gloomy aspen]

i dont have anything i just added the camera made it target an object only that

[errant shard]

If you don't have "anything", what's moving?

[gloomy aspen]

i mean the camera rotation

[errant shard]

So, everything is totally still except for the moving camera?
What is moving the camera

[gloomy aspen]

i mean the camera display is choppy i have it on a stille gameobject its rotation is choppy thats what i mean nothing moving in scene

i had it late its laggy in smart its also same

changed the blend still same issue

[errant shard]

But there is no blending happening is there
If you want to troubleshoot the choppiness of motion, you have to look at what is doing that motion

And potentially verify how the issue is manifesting
The editor can jitter for reasons unrelated to what's happening in your project

Compare to movement of something that verifiably is moving in Update

[fair tiger]

I am making headbobbing using different noise profiles. I was going to use multiple camera's so it transitions between them smoothly but I want to know if I can just use one camera and is it possible to smoothly transition between the noise profiles.

[royal tartan]

If you want smooth blends between them you'll want multiple cameras

[fair tiger]

I did try that but switching camera's was smooth but the noise profiles were not smooth at all as they are all moving differently.

[spare steppe]

hello , i'm trying to use cinemachine dolly track and i'm trying to switch the speed but i can't seem to be able to call it with public reference.

does anyone know where i could find information about that cause i can't seem to find it.

[worldly plover]

Is there a way to force Cinemachine to only pan horizontally? I have a series of objects placed side by side horizontally and a menu from which I can select them. Once a different object is selected, the camera should pan horizontally only.

I can achieve this by using a "Rotate with follow target" as the rotation composer, but then I lose any ability to rotate the camera.

[errant shard]

If the objects are in a row horizontally, what kind of movement are you seeing then, and how are you swapping the camera when "selecting" a gameobject

[worldly plover]

I think I fixed it, sorry it was my fault 😄 I had implemented a lookat function that also calculated a viewing angle and that was causing it

[spare steppe]

can the fixed speed on the cinemachine spline cart be changed in script?

nvm found how

[hidden kraken]

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[wintry canopy]

This is an English speaking community.

[fair tiger]

I have been stuck on this for a while now, I made this head bob effect and I can't make it relative to the direction I am looking at. Any ideas how I can fix this?
Script: https://paste.ofcode.org/LKta7KcJkKcS6xyx6zAnEY

[royal tartan]

it looks like whatever object your camera is a child of is not actually rotating

you're probably doing the rotation through the camera only or something

[fair tiger]

the parent is rotating.

[royal tartan]

I mean when you rotate left and right

the Player object is not rotating

[fair tiger]

So the player object needs to rotate with the camera? i.e. when rotating left and right?

[royal tartan]

the camera shouldn't rotate on the y axis

it will rotate automatically when its parent does

[fair tiger]

Oh shit your right I was a bit confused at the beginning lol. When I rotate my player object the headbob is rotating properly now.

[dreamy nova]

Hey, is there a way to set the Tracking Target on the cinemachinecamera through a script?

[fair tiger]

Yes, whatever you cinemachine camera is called in your script for example vCam you would do vCam.follow = newEnemy; newEnemy would be a variable.

[dreamy nova]

thanks

[warm verge]

how do you make fps camera in the unity 6 like chinemachine camera should i use

[pearl plume]

Idk, if somebody already answered, but how in 2D make camera move in player momentum direction? Using follow and make camera drag is bad approach

[royal tartan]

No difference from previous versions

[warm verge]

i am makinga fps camera how do i make the camera look around in first person

in presiouv version there used to be a script for the main camera to do so but its not there anymore

[kindred lintel]

Anyone got any good links to how cinemachine 3 operates? I'm getting major whiplash going to the new version. Already looking at the docs.

[warm verge]

the new version look very different and even i can't find any explation video on it

[kindred lintel]

Gotcha. I switched to looking at one of the samples they have on it. Making slight progress XD

[warm verge]

wait does any of them contain any fps camera to

[kindred lintel]

The one I'm looking at is third person

[warm verge]

check for first person to

[kindred lintel]

I don't recall any fps ones though

Not explicitly named, but maybe there's one that can be adapted to an fps

[warm verge]

which one

[kindred lintel]

I'll take a look

[warm verge]

okay

[kindred lintel]

Yeah, nothing immediately screaming "fps", but here's the samples for 3d

[warm verge]

the free look ones might work but i can't be sure

[kindred lintel]

Granted, I think fps games wouldn't need cinemachine? Usually when I do an fps I just make the camera a child of the player and control its rotation directly

[warm verge]

problem is when you try something complex with the camera like ability to switch camera and stuff like that

[kindred lintel]

Ah, yeah that make sense

[warm verge]

plus i don't think it will be that good for multiplayer

[kindred lintel]

Here's the doc page I used to download these btw:
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1//manual/samples-import.html

[warm verge]

no worries i found one in the unity projects to if i find anything i will tell you

[kindred lintel]

Gotcha, appreciate it

[warm verge]

i actually didn't find any so i decided to make my own version

[warm verge]

this is how i did it. its self closed so can be turned into a prefab the chinemachine, the camera refrence target and everything is in a single gameobject and refrence eachother so as long as the chinemachine exists in the chidren it will get the camera on its own without any problem

turns out they are also using there own custom script for first person. there is chinemachine camera build for first person at all

[royal tartan]

You write a script

First person look scripts are very common and simple

[kindred lintel]

Sorry for the extremely late reply. Yeah, looks like some custom work is needed for both 3rd and 1st person. For 3rd, I'm thinking of some ideas because the way it was done in one of the samples didn't vibe with me. It does give a good reference point on what needs to be addressed though.

[warm verge]

maybe but i am making a mutiplaer game there are going to multiple things and unique thngs in the game realted to camera common first person script would fail for those hard code loghics

[warm verge]

maybe for thrid person attach the game to a player camera point at a distance and then rotate the player camera target independently of the player and the player movement script can calculate the forward vector using the player camera target

[paper bridge]

Im building for android and i want the binding mode of my camera to be lock to target, but when i try and build, the camera behaves as it is on lock to target on assign, which is the complete opposite of the behaviour im looking for, why is that?
Can android even run for this way of handling my camera?

It works fine when i play in the editor btw...

[errant shard]

Have you tried a desktop build? Aside from display size differences I don't think code function like this should differ by platform in any way really

[paper bridge]

no i havent, but i found the issue, the angular damping mode should be set on quaternion instead of euler, it works now. Thanks a lot tho!

[potent flame]

Am I misunderstanding how cinemachine volume settings work? I have multiple cinemachine cameras with different postptocessing profiles used in their volume settings components. I can switch between them and everything works great. I also use a screen space overlay UI which is getting distorted by the various cameras. I don't want that. So I've setup a secondary ui camera, put my ui on a layer set the main camera to ignore ui, the secondary to render only ui and added stacking. The stacking works correctly and my secondary camera renders the ui, but it's still affected by the base camera's post processing! Is this expected? is there a way around it?
(ok, so turning off postprocessing on the ui camera is partially what I want, but ideally I'd like seperate postprocessing sets for both cameras?)

[frank escarp]

Every time i try to assign a cinemachine brain component to my main camera, it stops my camera zoom code from working. I need cinemachine attatched to the main camera because i'm trying to make it so that the camera can't go out of bounds.

Here is the code it breaks.

using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Collections;
using UnityEngine;

public class CameraZOOM : MonoBehaviour
{
private Camera _camera;
private float zoomtarget;

[SerializeField]
private float multiplier = 2f, minzoom = 1f, maxzoom = 12f, smoothtime = .1f;
private float velocity = 0f;
void Start()
{
    _camera = GetComponent<Camera>();
    zoomtarget = _camera.orthographicSize;
}
void Update()
{
    zoomtarget -= Input.GetAxisRaw("Mouse ScrollWheel") * multiplier;
    zoomtarget = Mathf.Clamp(zoomtarget, minzoom, maxzoom);
    _camera.orthographicSize = Mathf.SmoothDamp(_camera.orthographicSize, zoomtarget, ref velocity, smoothtime);
}

}

[royal tartan]

If you're using cinemachine you have to control the camera through cinemachine

you basically need to do what you're doing now except through the CInemachineCamera instead of the regular camera

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/api/Unity.Cinemachine.CinemachineCamera.html#Unity_Cinemachine_CinemachineCamera_Lens
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/api/Unity.Cinemachine.LensSettings.html#Unity_Cinemachine_LensSettings_OrthographicSize

[kindred lintel]

Is a first person view achievable with cinemachine 3?

[kindred lintel]

Nvm. Figured how to do that

[frank escarp]

update: I rewrote my entire script and completely deleted cinemachine from my game.

it now works as i want it to. 🙂

[worldly plover]

Question about zooming: I'm causing my camera to zoom in out by manipulating the CameraDistance value of the position composer. However, if my camera is "homing in" on another target (this is kind of an RTS-like camera) and at the same time I zoom, the camera will zig-zag. It will zoom in in the current forward direction and then move laterally.

What would be the best way to make it zoom along the direction it is heading?

[royal tartan]

What happens if you zoom by adjusting the FOV instead of the distance?

[worldly plover]

This is a quick video of what I mean

[royal tartan]

Well I'm not sure why your zoom is happening in fits and starts like that

that could be an issue with your code? Are you changing the distance over time manually?

[worldly plover]

that's just me pressing the mousewheel different times 🙂

[royal tartan]

tbh I would probably disable manual zooming (and do an automatic zoom) when selecting a planet like that

[worldly plover]

and how can you do that?

Right now I was zooming like this:
ActiveControl.Distance = Mathf.SmoothDamp(ActiveControl.Distance, targetCameraZoom, ref cameraZoomDampVelocity, CameraSettings.ZoomSmoothTime, 100, Time.deltaTime);

activecontro.distance is an interface to the position composer

[royal tartan]

just disable whatever code you have doing that during the transition^

like if (!currentlyTransitioningToNewTarget) DoZoomLogic();

[worldly plover]

That's a solution I guess, but people might still try to press the mousewheel and then it won't work.

[royal tartan]

Is that an issue?

The point was that the zoom makes the camera transition look bad

Is it that essential that zooming works during the transition?

again I would likely do an automatic zoom as part of this transition

[worldly plover]

to some extent, right now if you zoom in enough the system goes to a different "mode", where the planet is seen "in scale" with the correct proportion (so it would hide very far away planets and show moons, etc.)

Since the "homing in" part takes at least a second I thought people would attempt to zoom in anyway, so I wanted to make it more pleasant.

[tiny lion]

I added shoulder switching to my project with 2 Third Person Follow cameras. Should I delete one and just make the shoulder switching function move the Camera Side from 1 to 0?

I kinda got hit with this realization now but do I HAVE to do it? Will there be issues if I just keep the 1 camera on each shoulder method?

[tiny lion]

Damn son 😔

[royal tartan]

the only issue with the two cameras thing is if you decide to make changes to the camera you need to do it twice.
This can be largely mitigated by using prefabs

[tiny lion]

Oh ok

I won't have to recode

Also can you tell me why the Third Person sample scene is using this setup?

Isn't there an extension for the Third Person Follow camera that does Aiming?

[royal tartan]

no idea

[tiny lion]

Ok then

My main question was about the shoulder switching and that has been answered

Thanks

[tiny lion]

Yeah with this setup I'm pretty much ending with 4 cameras per player (2 for Third Person Shoulders, 2 for Aiming)

Will this have any impact to performance? I'm new to this

And again, it's PER player, so in the end it's gonna be like 40 cameras

[royal tartan]

cinemachine is designed to have lots of inactive CinemachineCameras

it's fine

[tiny lion]

Aha thanks

You've put my mind at ease. Thanks for the help

[junior hawk]

Hello, please help! How do I make the third-person camera rotate around the character instead of around its axis? I want to get the effect where the character goes one way and the camera can look the other way. I'm using Unity 6.3.

[quaint nimbus]

anyone getting these errors when upgrading from 2.x to 3.x?

[quaint nimbus]

i cant even access any of the api's in the script

[royal tartan]

Try deleting your library folder

[echo wren]

im watching a tutorial, does anyone know where these axis controls are now in the latest version of cinemachine? first pic is from the tutorial im watching

[late basin]

Don't waste your time with outdated tutorials. Check out these new ones: https://discussions.unity.com/t/new-5-part-cinemachine-3-1-youtube-tutorial-series-available/1685256

[echo wren]

does it go over how to make a third person camera with it?

[late basin]

yes, one of the videos is specifically dedicated to that

[late basin]

I recommend watching them all (you can do it at 2X speed to save time). Then you will have a good sense of how Cinemachine works and will be able to reason about it in the future

[echo wren]

do you have a video recommondation for a player controller to go with it?

[late basin]

Not specifically, but the controllers that ship with the Cinemachine samples are a good starting point. See if one of the samples has the sort of camera and controller behaviour you want, and copy them.

[quaint nimbus]

Thanks but I just downgraded to 3.1.4

[storm patio]

how do drive Cinemachine cameras with custom input now? I've looked at the InputAxisController docs and samples but they don't really appear to work.

[royal tartan]

which components did you pair it with

[storm patio]

I was trying to use this sample https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/com.unity.cinemachine/blob/main/com.unity.cinemachine/Samples~/Input System Samples/Split Screen Multiplayer/CustomInputHandler.cs
When I add it to my camera the property panel shows a bunch of "No GUI implemented" errors

[royal tartan]

Stupid question but how did you install the sample

and how did you install cinemachine

[storm patio]

I installed the package and sample using the Window->Package Management->Package Manager
Even in the sample scene it looks like this

[royal tartan]

That's odd - this is what I see

having just installed the cinemachine package

dumb question but do you have the input system package installed?

[storm patio]

which version? I'm using 3.1.2

[royal tartan]

3.1.5

Unity 6000.3.4f1

[storm patio]

I'll try the newest version of the package

nope same problem, I'm on Unity 6000.3.5f2 and 3.1.5 of Cinemachine

I'll try a fresh project

works in a fresh project so it has to be some package interferring

Is it possible to set the horizontal/vertical axis on the CinemachineOrbitalFollow without using an CinemachineInputAxisController?

[royal tartan]

sure you can just set the values yourself in code

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.0/api/Unity.Cinemachine.CinemachineOrbitalFollow.HorizontalAxis.html
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.0/api/Unity.Cinemachine.CinemachineOrbitalFollow.RadialAxis.html

[stiff void]

can anyone help me with the pixel perfect camera, i want to increase what the player can be see while keeping pixel perfect. My problem is my player view is either too small or too large

[ivory wraith]

the pixel-perfect camera makes each asset pixel take up a whole number of pixels on your screen

[ivory wraith]

you can't get an in-between zoom because the entire point of the pixel-perfect camera is to prevent that

you can't make each asset pixel take up 1.5 pixels on screen or you'll get tons of flickering

since some pixels will wind up larger than others

pixel art requires careful thought about how large your assets are

[humble hamlet]

is there a way to make my target group cinemachine not zoom THAT far in

found it in the aim settings

[storm patio]

with CinemachineOrbitalFollowis there a reason why the center of an axis is not always the exact midpoint between the range? When I check the recentering button the center will update with a new value which is the correct orientation behind the character.

[royal tartan]

Increase the minimum FOV

or change the Group Framing size

[storm patio]

I'm using a tracked target, I can see in the source code that CinemachineOrbitalFollow recalculates the horizontalaxis center based on the forward of the target. Is there a way to trigger an instant calculate + recenter from code? I don't want it to lerp

from what I can see UpdateHorizontalCenter is an internal method and is only called in this case

      if (HorizontalAxis.Recentering.Enabled)
          UpdateHorizontalCenter(orient);

[solid harness]

On the old cinemachineFreeLook component, there was a "Follow" and a "Look At" parameter. now, there is only the "Tracking Target". How can I change the "Look At" parameter on the new Cinemachine Camera component

[errant shard]

The gear icon button next to the Tracking Target allows enabling a separate Look At Target

[astral otter]

Hi. I've been trying to create a zone that when the player enters, it shakes the camera until the player leaves the area. I have a zone now with a noisesetting but the tremor happens only when the player enters the zone and not continuously. Is there a way to do it through cinemachine itself? maybe with its own script?

[royal tartan]

Use OnTriggerEnter to enable the shaking and OnTriggerExit to disable it

Do the actual shaking in Update or a coroutine

[mellow plover]

how do you access the tracking target field via code?

oh that's really confusing

[royal tartan]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/api/Unity.Cinemachine.CinemachineCamera.html#Unity_Cinemachine_CinemachineCamera_Follow
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/api/Unity.Cinemachine.CinemachineCamera.html#Unity_Cinemachine_CinemachineCamera_LookAt

[mild eagle]

Hello team!

I am using Cinemachine (XDDDDDDD)
it is a top down camera

and also Confiner 3D for it

it is, like I said a TOP DOWN game, the blue squares are the Confiner 3D

[THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART]
The confiner is working nicely, however my rotation composer, rotates in both Axis, X and also Y

Only want my camera to rotate in Y```

instead, I would like this as the result.

Camera only rotating up and down...

(Achieved by disabling, Rotation Composer)

I have two solutions in mind.

Having many cameras and toggling them when needed, that way I can control if a camera has rotation composer and many other things.

Or two, having a rotation composer that only goes up and down. <= It is what I would like best

[mild eagle]

What is the name of the component, inside of the camera?

for example, in this case, Cinemachine Rotation Composer
or it could be Cinemachine Follow

I cannot just do CinemachineCamera.TargetOffset.

I am NOT looking for the CINEMACHINE CAMERA, when looking for those values in script.

I am looking for the specific component that holds those values.

For example this case:

CinemachineCamera and CinemachineFollow

are both the same camera object, but since I am looking for the values in CinemachineFollow,
I need a reference to that component```

Because CinemachineCamera is one component, CinemachineFollow is another component, they are working together, but they are not the same.

public void SwitchCameraPerspective(PerspectiveDirection perspective)
{
    Vector3 perspectiveOffset = Vector3.zero;
    _topDownCameraFollow.FollowOffset = perspectiveOffset;
}```

Here is for example, how I am needing to change values in the Cinemachine Follow.

I need a reference directly to that component, and not just the CinemachineCamera. Even though, both components are in the same object, they are not the same.

maybe mucho texto, but I hope it helps

[royal tartan]

the simple solution I would do is just make a child object of the player that moves itself to the player's position except for a hardcoded y position with a simple LateUpdate script. Then make this object the cinemachine tracking target. Done

[mild eagle]

🤔 okay, that could work

[royal tartan]

You could actually just use the built in PositionConstaint component for it

instead of setting as a child

and just disable the y axis

[mild eagle]

okay, this is not 100% clear for me

but I am streaming, if you have a moment!

[royal tartan]

1. Make an empty object
2. Attach the PositionConstraint component to it.
3. Set the player object as the only source object in the sources list
4. Freeze only the Y position axis (uncheck the other two)
5. Click the Zero button, then Activate button
6. Set the empty object as your cinemachine target

(ignore the settings i have there)

[mild eagle]

beautiful thank you, trying it out now!

I don't think it is working,

If you have a second, I am sharing my screen on stream!
I think assistance can be much better in real time

[royal tartan]

you could show screenshots of what you tried

[mild eagle]

a position constraint

is is constraining, the position of the camera

I want to constrain the rotation

[royal tartan]

Which object did you attach this to

[mild eagle]

it was its own root object

no parent

new empty game object

[royal tartan]

right - and then how did you set up the cinemachine camera?

[mild eagle]

I reversed it

[royal tartan]

If it's on its own object it will not do anything to the camera itself

[royal tartan]

wdym by this

[mild eagle]

I did it, but I took it back to what I had before. Becausse it was not working

but all I did was to change the tracking target

to that Position Constrain

[royal tartan]

Yeah that's all you needed to do

[mild eagle]

and it was constraining my position, only Y was moving

[royal tartan]

that doesn't make sense 🤔

[mild eagle]

what?

a position constrain

to constrain the position?

:VVVVVVVVVVV

[royal tartan]

The position constraint constrains the position of the object it's on

no other objects

[mild eagle]

yes

and my camera is following it

[royal tartan]

there's no way this would make your camera only move on the y axis

[mild eagle]

but it has X and Z frozen

[royal tartan]

it should have y frozen not x and z

[mild eagle]

you are making me mad

rotation, not position

is what I need to freeze

[royal tartan]

I am aware of that

[mild eagle]

streaming, sharing screen better

if not, it's okay I'll try things on my own

[royal tartan]

By freezing the Y position of the object your camera is LOOKING at

[mild eagle]

communication and time will be not good here

[royal tartan]

the camera will never need to tilt up or down

[mild eagle]

I have another solution in mind now tho

so it's fine

I will remove the rotation composer, and do whatever I need via script

or, if there is a Rotation Composer, that only rotates up and down please let me know

[wintry sable]

whenevre i add cinemachine cam, the character rotates crzily

crazily

as if the cam has influence in physics

[mystic yoke]

did you place the cinemachine camera ON the player object?

[wintry sable]

child of player

[mystic yoke]

dont do that, it should be its own seperate object with cinemachine

[wintry sable]

how do yutube tutorials succeed by tricking me.........

like that?

[mystic yoke]

yes

[wintry sable]

oh well

i gotta find a tutorial that works with cam and player being siblings

[mystic yoke]

set the tracking target in the camera to the player and it will still follow it

[wintry sable]

i did that, now its on the ground

probably becz root is on ground

and idk how to remove these blue lines with the yellow square

do i have to make a separate LookAt block?

[mystic yoke]

you can set an offset of y=1

set position control to follow and then in the component that appears below you can set the follow offset

the yellow square is just the follow damping

[mystic yoke]

they will disappear once you havent selected the camera

[wintry sable]

same issue

[mystic yoke]

Can you show the full components?

[mystic yoke]

play with the offset while you are ingame, it should update live

[wintry sable]

this is a better img for the 3rd img

[wintry sable]

ok on it

btw the cam rotates following my mouse

how to disable cursor tracking

[mystic yoke]

the last component you have is an input axis controller

it does exactly that

[wintry sable]

oh ill remove it

[mystic yoke]

wait ill check my project that has a similar setup to yours

[wintry sable]

alright

[mystic yoke]

this is my current setup

the Target Offset down in the rotation composer sets where you look at

[wintry sable]

hmm ill try

[mystic yoke]

Btw you can turn off the lines and the yellow thing by switching the "Game View Guides" in the main component

Ping me if you need further help, otherwise I might not notice followup messages 😄

[wintry sable]

character cant rotate at all despite this code exists

[solid harness]

if i wanted a script to disable all cinemachine mouse movement, how would i do that? is there a better way then disabling/enabling the input axis controller component

[royal tartan]

What's wrong with that approach?

[short frost]

To anyone who has played arma 2 or similar, how does one achieve a view/headbob like in arma 2? I cant seem to be able to deconstruct exactly each individual movement of the camera in this

Assuming this can be done with cinemachine btw, i think the noiseprofile might play a big role but im unsure

[short frost]

ok i made something that seems similar, movement on x and y axis and some tilting on the z axis

[solid harness]

is it possible to change the spline shape on the Cinemachine Orbital Follow component?

this curved U shape

i know there is a slider to change how curved the line is but it doesnt change the overall shape of the spline

also are there any games that use the three ring type of camera?

i cant think of any games using it

[agile blaze]

Hello, when i am working with cinemachine i am getting something wrong it pissed me off, like when using the third person aim camera it's just not rotating and i am trying to add pan tilt it just rotates around it self and not like beside the player so it will get that aiming style.
Any idea?

[timid vortex]

is there a way to get this camera style?

also how do i turn it on/off in the editor i know wahts causing this but i dont know wehre unity has the button for it

[agile blaze]

its lso on the top right corner ig just click it

[timid vortex]

waht is lso

[agile blaze]

click this to disable this camera style

[short frost]

Isometric ^

[short frost]

Actually, i cant seem to get it right. Is there a chance there might be some sort of random noise applied as a layer too?

[royal tartan]

you mean you want your game to look like this? Set your camera to be orthographic

[slim atlas]

Would anyone be willing to help me figure out my third person camera? i went through multiple different tutorials and i cant get the mouse to control rotation

[royal tartan]

you should show what you're trying right now and what's going wrong

[slim atlas]

okay

Something about my look orbit input is off making the mouse not rotate the camera

[royal tartan]

your cinemachine axis controller is disabled

[slim atlas]

ohhh my god

i enabled it and it didnt change anything. that wouldve been embarrassing if that were it

[royal tartan]

which object is that attached to? What other components are on it?

[slim atlas]

my free look camera is targetted to an empty object within my player called CameraTarget that is positioned in my characters head and i have not put any other components on the free look camera

[royal tartan]

I'm asking what other components there are. You said "free look camera" - I specifically want to know what components you have making that up

It's obviously not just a Cinemachine Input Axis Controller

[slim atlas]

so im following a definitely better tutorial but im still getting the same issue. I restarted completely from scratch and whenever they add the character to the cameras follow, it allows them to move the camera with the mouse, but for whatever reason, mine doesnt. Is it possible that its because my character isnt a rigid body?

[royal tartan]

no the components on the character are not relevant

[royal tartan]

can you show how the rotation composer is set up here?

[slim atlas]

what confuses me most though is that it just seems all that has to be done is create the camera and set a follow for it to work

[royal tartan]

wouldn't you not have a rotation composer for a free look?

the rotation composer forces it to look at the tracking target, doesn't it?

or... hm maybe i'm slightly confused. Is it the Free Look modifier that is supposeds to handle this?

The Look orbit X and Look Orbit Y - are those coming from the Free Look modifier, or where

Oh wait it's the Orbital Follow

I forgot - yeah it's not really the rotation that's the issue it's the orbital follow position

[slim atlas]

I'll disable it and see what happens

[royal tartan]

no i think it's actually useful/needed - but seeing the orbital follow might help. not sure

[slim atlas]

yeah it is

[slim atlas]

i messed with the free look modifier and it is not it

[slim atlas]

i made a new free look so I havent set those up. But I shouldnt have to because cinemachine defaults them. But each time I have, it hasnt worked. They came from input manager

[slim atlas]

so what would I have to do for it to allow the mouse to control the camera?

is this relevant?

its a component under my player

[slim atlas]

Would you be willing to help me through screen share?

[royal tartan]

nah

[royal tartan]

No, those are not from the input system. Those are "driven axes" from cinemachine

those are the axes that the input is driving. They come from the orbital follow component:

[slim atlas]

I dont understand why my mouse input isnt doing anything then

[royal tartan]

I'm not sure either unfortunately.

[slim atlas]

would my cursor not locking in the game tab be a reason?

it doesnt do it automatically, I had to make a script to do that

[royal tartan]

it technically shouldn't matter... and yeah you always would have to do that in your own script

[slim atlas]

alright

[royal tartan]

if you try binding this to a different input does it work then?

like try making an action with jeyboard inputs and see if you can get that working

[slim atlas]

would this be the right way to go about that?

and placing that in these?

[royal tartan]

yes

[slim atlas]

i found something very interesting in doing that

actually not very interesting

at first i thought it didnt move the camera but the values were still moving but it was actually moving the camera, just very slowly

[royal tartan]

ok maybe that same thing is happening for the mouse

[royal tartan]

If you expand the Driven Axes in the Axis Controller are there settings for senstivity etc

[slim atlas]

if there are, its not explicitly called sensitivity but here it is expanded

im assuming it might be input value?

[royal tartan]

it's called Gain

[slim atlas]

oh ok

[royal tartan]

If you turn that way up what happens

make it like 10

or 100

Do you have a very high dpi mouse

[slim atlas]

im using arrow keys because mouse wasnt working but turning it up to 100 made it more of a moderate speed

[slim atlas]

i would say its average

[slim atlas]

So im guessing the issue is the way im making a mouse input since arrow keys work when I bind them. How do I correctly make mouse inputs?

[royal tartan]

what you have should be fine afaik

You should try using the input debugger

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.18/manual/Debugging.html

[slim atlas]

This is what I see that is typically used for mouse input

[royal tartan]

This is your problem

You're using a control scheme and you haven't added this binding to it

[slim atlas]

do i jsut check the box? because I did and it did not work

[royal tartan]

make sure you save the input asset after you check it

TBH I would recommend just deleting all of your control schemes unless you're doing local multiplayer

[slim atlas]

really?

[royal tartan]

The purpose of contorl schemes are to allow the input system to group the input devices into usable sets of devices to be assigned to different players

if you don't have multiple players locally, it's kinda pointless

[slim atlas]

do you mean just schemes specifically or input actions assets as a whole?

[royal tartan]

control schemes

[slim atlas]

i dont remember even creating it

how do i get rid of it?

[royal tartan]

In the top left of your actions asset there's a control schemes dropdown

use the delete control scheme button after selecting the one you want to delete

[slim atlas]

I dont think I have any

[royal tartan]

don't you have the one called "New Control Scheme"

[slim atlas]

i really dont know

[royal tartan]

Seemed like you did from your earlier screenshot

[slim atlas]

if I do, nothing else used it like my WASD and space

[royal tartan]

what shows up when you open that dropdown?

[slim atlas]

but also, making my mouse input under the scheme did not allow it to move the camera

[slim atlas]

the "All Control Schemes" dropdown?

[royal tartan]

yes

[slim atlas]

oh i get it now

the name of the scheme confused me

[royal tartan]

indeed

[slim atlas]

i thought it was an option for making one

[slim atlas]

shouldnt this work?

I dont know if im missing anything, but it does not

[royal tartan]

i should think it would work yeah

try the "Save asset" button if you haven't already

[slim atlas]

i have

[slim atlas]

i tried ramping the gain up a lot more too

[royal tartan]

actually wait

can you try this

[slim atlas]

i didnt think it was a sensitivity issue because the values didnt move even a little bit

[royal tartan]

wait nvm - you said it worked with the 2D vector action with the keyboard right?

[royal tartan]

this setup - that was working?

[slim atlas]

yes it was

[royal tartan]

I would try the input debugger

make sure the mouse input is actually being read properly

[slim atlas]

where can i find that?

found it

how do i use it?

device is disabled?

[royal tartan]

https://discussions.unity.com/t/device-is-disabled-for-mouse-every-time-a-game-starts/837199/3

Maybe this will help?

Or this? https://discussions.unity.com/t/device-is-disabled-for-mouse-every-time-a-game-starts/837199/11

[slim atlas]

i enabled it and it doesnt seem to be redisabling

[royal tartan]

so is it working now

[slim atlas]

no

[slim atlas]

wait it does

i switched back to keyboard inputs to see it work again and forgot to switch back

thank you for your help!

[agile blaze]

Hello, when i am working with cinemachine i am getting something wrong it pissed me off, like when using the third person aim camera it's just not rotating and i am trying to add pan tilt it just rotates around it self and not like beside the player so it will get that aiming style.
Any idea?

[solid harness]

any help on this?

[glacial kelp]

how do I get the padding to be smaller on the confiner?

[inland venture]

hi, can anyone help me? I wanne make a 3d game with a 2d game style like signalis but the camera keeps being weird when it is colliding with my pro builder objects or any objects at all, the box is just the player: I am using a virtual camera that cannot be rotated, and i am also using a collider

yes its supose to be pixelated

i want it so the place will just become black

[royal tartan]

you're going to need to get way more specific about what you mean by "the camera keeps being weird"

a video might help, as well as an explanation of how the scene is set up, how your camera is set up, and what the desired camera behavior is

[inland venture]

sure gimme a sec

[inland venture]

instead of wobbely lines it shoulkd have just been a black sky just like in signalis

[royal tartan]

well that part has nothing to do with cinemachine

that's just your actual unity camera settings

check the Background type under Environment

set it to Solid COlor instead of Uninitialized

[inland venture]

sure i try

[inland venture]

do you mean these cam settings?
cuz i am prob blind but cant seem to find it

[royal tartan]

ok you seem to be using built in render pipeline instead of URP

but yeah your Clear Flags being Solid Color is correct

check what they are set to while the game is playing

maybe something is changing it

perhaps the CM camera (i forget if it has those settings)

[inland venture]

hmm i found the problem i think

so i am using for the pixelated look a render texture

but its interfering with the camera in the wrong way and that is making those weird lines

the settings for that is this:

[royal tartan]

right... and you are rendering the render texture how?

[inland venture]

by putting it in target texture in the camera

[royal tartan]

no that reenders the camera to the texture

that doesn't explain how you're drawing the texture on the screen

presumably you're using a RawImage component in a canvas

[inland venture]

oohhh ofc, sorry i aint very good with unity yet so i dont always know what you mean, but yea i am using a raw image

[royal tartan]

righ tso... show how your canvas is laid out

probably you can fix this by adding a black image underneath the rawimage

[inland venture]

damn

it worked :D

tysm!

[thick stone]

I don't know if this question is best suited for the Cinemachine channel, but I'm using a cinemachine camera, so I hope it's fine.
I'm working on the player menu/inventory and I'm zooming the camera in right over the player's shoulder.
How I'm doing this rn is by disabling the Cinemachine camera component and moving the actual camera, then when the player leaves the inventory, it turns the component back on. This makes it snap back to the last position, which just looks bad, is there a way I can get it to move back smoothly?

[errant shard]

Kinda the main point of cinemachine is not having to do that to move the camera
You disable CM cameras but always have at least one and let the blending be done by the Brain

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/manual/concept.html
I recommend reading the first few pages of the documentation at least
Well written and really helps you use the system at what it's powerful at
Transitions especially relevant here

[thick stone]

So I just put an extra Cinemachine camera where I need it to be, and the camera will blend to it when I switch between them?

[errant shard]

Yes
There's a couple of ways to configure how cinemachine chooses the active CM camera, and the blends are configurable too by context

[inland venture]

my room just feels so flat, and not of the fact that there is nothing there yet, its just the perspective of what i want feels wrong. Is it because of the map or because i have forgotten something with cinemachine.

[royal tartan]

the third image appears to be either a perspective camera or they've done a few sneaky tricks with the environment to create the appearance of perspective

notice that you can see the side walls on both sides of the room (and that little inset at the top), despite the fact that the props mostly seem to be 2d sprites

[inland venture]

mmmm i can try to make it work with persepctive to see if it will work

[royal tartan]

it's some odd mix of perspective, 2d sprites, and a 3D environment from what I can tell

hard to say exactly what they're doing here from this one image

[inland venture]

fair enough
i tried to use perspective but it does not really feel the same

[royal tartan]

you could move the camera further away and reduce the FOV

to make it more orthographic-like

[inland venture]

it is quite a challange but i hope it will work

do you know if unity provides a system that makes the camera follow the player only when they are out of view? Kinda like what happends in this game aswell, i am trying to make my own game with this style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxCvnuWNbgg&t=2479s

[royal tartan]

yes you can set up cinemachine to do this with dead zones

or with clearshot and multiple cameras. depending on what you're looking for

[inland venture]

i shall look into it thank you!

[gaunt basalt]

Is there any way to lock camera rotation ?

[royal tartan]

Disable whatever component is rotating the camera

[errant shard]

Could blend to another CM camera which doesn't have rotation
I think there's an option for the destination CM camera to inherit the source CM camera's rotation/position, but I don't recall what it was called

[pearl plume]

how to correctly setup cinemachine pixelperfect to smoothly move

[errant shard]

Cinemachine or not, pixel perfect cameras generally cannot move smoothly
All motion must be snapped to the pixel grid, and the slower and less linear the movement is, the more jarring the snapping will be

This problem is even worse when the camera is following a sprite that's also snapping to the pixel grid, but with a slightly different timing

[pearl plume]

Somehow fixed, but character sprite, when moving vertically jitters

[sweet cipher]

When using the character controller for a player, is it ideal to even use cinemachine since you're making a camera controller regardless

[royal tartan]

What does one have to do with the other? What do you mean by "you're making a camera controller regardless"?

[sweet cipher]

I thought that if you're making a character controller, you will need camera controller, I thought cinemachine with the character controller would break

[royal tartan]

No?

Where did you get that idea

they have nothing to do with each other

[sweet cipher]

Oh ok

[royal tartan]

Sounds like maybe you 're not actually asking about CharacterController. You're asking about first person shooter style games. CharacterController is not limited to FPS games.

As to the question about cinemachine - even if you are 100% coding your camera yourself, I believe it's still worthwhile to use CInemachine in every game because it gives you access to the benefits of using multiple cinemachine cameras, blending between them, etc.

[sweet cipher]

I agree with using cinemachine, my question was phrased wrong, I thought having character controller and cinemachine would not work

[royal tartan]

Yeah that sounds like a misconception you picked up somewhere

[brisk sage]

How do I use cinemachine to make a screen shake effect that shakes the camera in random directions?

[errant shard]

Noise profiles can be defined to affect any axis you want
Importable examples should demonstrate how to use noise as well as impulses

[brisk sage]

How do I set noise profiles?

[errant shard]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/manual/setup-apply-noise.html

[brisk sage]

Then what are impulse sources and impulse listeners?

[errant shard]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.1/manual/CinemachineImpulse.html
The page I linked links directly to this page which answers those questions exactly

[brisk sage]

Well, I can set an initial force and time for the shake, but how do I set the noise for it?

[errant shard]

Noise profiles are used to apply noise to CM cameras
Impulse Sources instead have a Shape that defines how the impact jolts the camera
Impulse Listeners additionally can use a noise profile to mix in noise with the received impulses
You can either blend in to and out of a CM camera that has noise when you need shaking, or do a similar thing with impulses
It's depends on how you want to introduce the shaking at runtime
Impulses can guarantee the motion starts sharply, but noise alone is easier to make continuous

[brisk sage]

I just want the camera to shake in all directions for a few moments when something happens

[errant shard]

That's a too vague description to point to either system as the better choice
Both can do that

[brisk sage]

I want to use the impulse and listener system

[errant shard]

You can go ahead and do that
I recommend downloading the examples from the package manager as a reference implementation

[lethal sable]

I'm quite new to cinemachine and currently I'm trying to make a first person cutscene for a school project.

I'm trying to animate the character running however, the cameras that I'm using keep forcing a slow in/slow out effect and it's adding an ugly stutter to my animation (I'm sure any experts or even intermediates here know what I mean).

Currently I'm just using static cameras, but I'm wondering what would be a good alternative to making a first person running scene.

Would a cinemachine cam following a spline work better? Are there any alternatives that have been used?

I've been looking around on forums, yt, reddit, stack overflow, etc to find a solution but haven't come across a definitive one yet.

The video is what I've got right now.

[lethal sable]

honestly. Should I only be using one camera and animating the character? I feel like that would be a much more effective system

[royal tartan]

Maybe use a dolly track?

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@3.0/manual/CinemachineUsingSplinePaths.html

[ivory wraith]

You don't want to use multiple cinemachine cameras, for sure. It will be very hard to get them to blend together the way you want

Praetor's suggestion is the way to go

[lethal sable]

Yeah, I was just being stupid, instead of using cams Ive just been animating the model and getting it to move while making the cam follow a specific bone on the model.

Thanks either way!

[wary topaz]

using cinemachine for the first time and was wondering, is there a way i can make it so the free look camera only moves when the player left click and drags instead of anytime the mouse moves?

[royal tartan]

Disable/enable the cinemachine input provider component as needed

[wary topaz]

ill take a look at that thank you

[late basin]

Alternatively, you can create an input action that only fires when the button is pressed, and map that to the CinemachineInputAxisController instead of the default mapping.

[solar stream]

so in my game, I have a freelook camera (orbital follow), and a scoped in camera (third person follow), that the player can toggle by scoping in.
for some reason, when transitioning back to the freelook camera ('scoping out'), the camera 'rubberbands' back and forth a bit, but interestingly only when the player is moving towards the camera.
(.gif attached. in this example the transition is set to 1 seconds so the 'rubberbanding' can be seen more clearly, but normally it is only visible for a few frames).

the scoped in camera (third person follow) is driven by its tracking target, which effectively copies the rotation of the freelook camera (which is drive by the player's inputs). this is to ensure the two cameras have the exact same position when scoping in and out.

in the inspector I can see that it is the gameObject that is the scoped in camera's tracking target that's wiggling around. but I'm not sure why, since it simply calculates its own rotation based on the horizontal and vertical axes of the freelook camera:

void Update()
    {
        float yaw = Cam_Freelook.HorizontalAxis.Value;
        float pitch = Cam_Freelook.VerticalAxis.Value + PitchOffset;

        transform.rotation = Quaternion.AngleAxis(yaw, Vector3.up) * Quaternion.AngleAxis(pitch, Vector3.right);
    }

but the axes of the freelook camera do not change during the rubberbanding, which is very strange, as it means that the update code above should produce the same rotations (which as we can see is not the case: the tracking target wobbles around). I've tried ensuring the script executes after all cinemachine scripts, using LateUpdate() etc but this still happens. this must mean that something else is modifying the rotation of the tracking target, (does cinemachine modify the position of a camera's tracking target somehow?)

if I debug.log the transform.rotation of the tracking target inside Update(), and then debug.log it again inside LateUpdate(), it is different, showing that another script is clearly modifying it.

[errant shard]

Are the CM cameras parented under the player character transform?

[solar stream]

no

[errant shard]

Or under anything else that moves or rotates?
I'd also try to eliminate all scripts that could be changing it in Update
Any Animator ever touching the CM camera transforms or transforms or their hierarchy?

[solar stream]

ah, that's it! the tracking target (that the above update loop is on) was a child of the player, and so it was inheriting their rotation as well

just have to figure out a way to get the scoped in camera to copy the position of the player again smoothly, since the above script has to execute before cinemachine's scripts to get a smooth rotation (which isn't a suitable time to copy position without jitter)

[solar stream]

managed to get it working using a target group. position is controlled via the group members, then I just added my script to the group object and used manual mode for rotation

[brisk sage]

    {
        Vector2 mouse = input.mouseGamePos;
        aimCursor.rectTransform.position = mouse;
        aimCursor.rectTransform.Rotate(0, 0, Time.deltaTime * rotateAimSpeed);
        eyeball.up = (mouse - (Vector2)transform.position).normalized;
        Vector2 bodyPos = transform.parent.parent.position;
        if (Vector2.Distance(mouse, bodyPos) / 2 < maxAheadDistance) camFollow.position = (bodyPos + mouse) / 2;
        else camFollow.position = bodyPos + (mouse - bodyPos).normalized * maxAheadDistance;
    }``` camFollow is the cinemachine's tracking target. camFollow is a sort of a lookahead for the player so the camera can move in the direction the player is looking at with the mouse. I was wondering if there is a better way of setting camFollow's position, or a different way to achieve this altogether.

[royal tartan]

This way doesn't seem correct to me

When you do (mouse - bodyPos) you're subtracting the mouse's screen space position from an object's world space position

The correct way would be to get a world space position corresponding to the mouse position first

and the way to do that would be with Camera.ScreenPointToRay to create a Ray and then using Plane.Raycast with a Plane constructed to match the 2D game world plane.

[elfin helm]

Can someone have a look at this
https://streamable.com/7b7ku1

I have no idea why there's such a shaky camera movement when i walk around. The other rooms don't look so janky but the rooms near the corridor (0.33 second) looks like the camera has a very obvious "jump"

If you look at the end, around 0.54 I show what the room layout is supposed to look like (Even then, it seems that the cinemachine camera is not following my bounderies, why is it looking past the boundaries i set

[royal tartan]

You need to share details about your scene such as how your player movement works and how the camera is configured