archived-code-general

[oblique lagoon]

it wont work even as plugins

unity linker fails as an error

it wont compile the unsafe library

it has its own burst.unsafe

[heady iris]

I wound up installing System.Runtime.CompilerServices.Unsafe.6.0.0 through NuGet for Unity

I no longer depend on that, though.

I should probably remove it..

Burst should be irrelevant, though.

The Burst compiler is only applied to code you've annotated as being burst-compilable

[oblique lagoon]

did it even work

[heady iris]

yes; I was using it to coerce between an int and an enum without any GC alloc

[oblique lagoon]

ohhhh

[heady iris]

well, it was more complex than that -- I'm pretty sure the cast is free

[oblique lagoon]

ok

[heady iris]

It was coercing to a specific enum type, I want to say

ugh it was something evil

involving a Type object

[oblique lagoon]

well lets me try to download the library then

wait let me try

[heady iris]

I was using NuGet for Unity.

interestingly, it's still an implicit dependency of another package for me

[oblique lagoon]

which one?

last time when i forcefully tried to add a net supported library
i ended up feeding whole .net 7 dlls into unity

and still it didnt compile

that's why i have very less hopes for it to work and compile

[heady iris]

one of these, i guess

I used it back in...Unity 2022 or 2023

hey, there's my commit message!

Oh yeah, that's what it was

public static bool MeetsPref<T>(T en) where T : Enum
{
    T pref = GetPref<T>();
    var val = Unsafe.As<T, int>(ref pref);
    
    T demandedPref = en;
    var demanded = Unsafe.As<T, int>(ref demandedPref);
    
    return val >= demanded;
}

it checked if an enum value was greater than another enum value

[oblique lagoon]

[heady iris]

Terror

[oblique lagoon]

wait wait
couldnt you do that by type casting
as enums are just uint

[heady iris]

I don't believe I could do it with the generic

[oblique lagoon]

ohk

[heady iris]

yeah

[oblique lagoon]

ohhhhhhhh

sorry i didnt see that

[heady iris]

It's a surprising behavior!

the where T : Enum constraint doesn't guarantee enough, I guess

all of this was deeply evil

[oblique lagoon]

might be

let me google a bit

and see a better alternative

[heady iris]

anyway, i literally just installed the thing through NuGet For Unity and it worked

[oblique lagoon]

lol

you have the option to use bitconverter

to convert generic types to value types

[heady iris]

and my project still compiles if I use it

[oblique lagoon]

well i need unsafe for memory stuff

[somber nacelle]

but if the point was to avoid allocations then this isn't a great idea anyway. if they didn't care about allocations they could have just done (int)(object)val

[oblique lagoon]

you can say how crazy i am by seeing this picture

[heady iris]

bingo

i was tilting at windmills to eradicate all GC

[heady iris]

what in god's name did you do to unity

[oblique lagoon]

the library i am gonna use is using the unsafe library for some native libraries
that's why i need it anyways

[oblique lagoon]

a tons of shit

lol

cool aint it

[heady iris]

anayway, it Just Works, even on my ARM macbook

[oblique lagoon]

thanks for the advise
you made my day mate

[somber nacelle]

sure, but that's not really related to what you suggested. BitConverter probably could have done the job, but fen was avoiding allocating memory to do the conversion which means they had to use Unsafe.As for it instead of using some of the much easier/safer ways

[oblique lagoon]

ok sir

[heady iris]

it might not be easy or safe

but it sure is Funny (tm)

[oblique lagoon]

how?

[heady iris]

(this thing)

[oblique lagoon]

if it works it works

no need to tamper with it

my rules of doing work

it workeed

i am soo happy

[heady iris]

earlier today, I spent 30 minutes fighting a particle system

[oblique lagoon]

thank you soo much

[heady iris]

i then posted about the problem and solved it in 1 minute

classic

no prob :p

[oblique lagoon]

love you
your the best
i was stuck on this problem for the last 2 months

finally solved it

[oblique lagoon]

fun way of doing work

are you all graduates or still studying?

i just joined the uni

I cant believe my eyes
it finally worked

its my lucky day today

thanks for the help

bye

[late lion]

@oblique lagoon Unity's own UnsafeUtility also has a As method that works the same way.
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Unity.Collections.LowLevel.Unsafe.UnsafeUtility.As.html

[heady iris]

oh hey, that's fun

[oblique lagoon]

[heady iris]

now I can reinterpret a game object as a string

[oblique lagoon]

what would you achieve by doing so
also isnt a class something you cant convert to value type

gameobject is a class in this case

[leaden ice]

Pretty sure it was a joke

[oblique lagoon]

what you should be getting is the pointer to its memory address

[oblique lagoon]

i think so

[late lion]

string is also a class, so you would just be reinterpreting the pointer. I assume .NET will spot the mismatching types as soon as you try to call any of its methods.

[oblique lagoon]

now it makes more sense

[heady iris]

Well now I have to try it

This feels like a bad idea

[oblique lagoon]

well i dont think so

[heady iris]

ah yes

my game object is a string with a length of 920439632

[oblique lagoon]

its like getting a pointer to an address and reading bytes and converting it to any value to want

so its an easy win

[heady iris]

ah

there goes unity

took a few tries!

i don't think i'm going to submit this one

[oblique lagoon]

did it crash?

no way?

[heady iris]

once I asked for .Substring(1), at least

[oblique lagoon]

unity usually crashes on adding libraries that it cannot process

[heady iris]

interestingly, it was okay when I just tried doing something like Debug.Log(notAString)

[vagrant blade]

Not a Unity question. @oblique lagoon

[oblique lagoon]

sorry my bad

[oblique lagoon]

send it i am with you

[compact spire]

I don't see much real time editing of mesh's as a thing unless it's in the context of breaking it into parts. What I am looking for is a bit more complicated in a way. Imagine a model of a submarine, and you play a model of a squarish torpedo launcher in it near the front. I would want to project the hole where the torpedo goes out the front of the submarine model, cutting a hole in the curved front in the process. Does that make sense? How difficult would that even be? In my head I need to add edges/vertices where the tube intersects with the model and then remove some faces. It seems like a non-trivial task...

[oblique lagoon]

i think unity has these features already as its a game engine and it support destruction as well
you dont need to write it from scratch

[compact spire]

Wouldn't those features be locked behind the editor portion of Unity?

[oblique lagoon]

not at all

[heady iris]

Unity doesn't have extensive mesh editing features..

I guess there's ProBuilder, which can do some operations

[heady iris]

Boolean mesh operations are fun

Actually...you may find this package to be interesting

[oblique lagoon]

editor only but slicing is something unity supports for runtime
so you dont need to worry at all

[heady iris]

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/level-design/poseidon-csg-dynamic-level-design-159427?srsltid=AfmBOop0GmbKYBkl3LfCdpnlvudQs1ssbAWQagziGvvDq2m9n5HcmvjY

[heady iris]

what?

[heady iris]

This lets you combine multiple inside-out meshes together into one large space

[oblique lagoon]

slicing like spliting meshes with a raycast or at the point of intersection

i just forgot how to do that
but unity do support it

[heady iris]

Yes. I am not aware of this being something that's easy to do without using third-party packages

[compact spire]

Hmm Interesting

[oblique lagoon]

yea that as well lol

[heady iris]

It has some hiccups -- you can run into problems with floating-point precision when two objects barely touch each other

[compact spire]

or when 2 vertices are really close to each other?

ugh then you would have to do some dynamic weld of the vertices

[heady iris]

Oh yeah, and you wind up with several separate meshes

Which can cause bad seams in lightmaps

It looks perfect under realtime light

[compact spire]

I haven't even looked into how I'm going to handle materials for this...

I'm ignoring that until I have some basic prototype done

proof of concept

That asset might give me some idea of how much work it is I guess

[lucid brook]

What do you prefer, assigning your variable in your code with things like .GetComponent or do you mark them as [SerializeField] and assign them in the editor

[heady iris]

haha, it's complicated :p

[heady iris]

I prefer serialized references unless there is absolutely no way that GetComponent will ever fail or give me the wrong object

And even then -- I'll just use GetComponent as a backup to an explicit reference

if (!whatever) {
  whatever = GetComponent<Foo>();
}

[lucid brook]

So with things like a rigidbody on the same object you just do get component but if it's outside of that you use a serialized references?

[heady iris]

And even for the first case, I would still just assign a reference

Prefabs mean you don't have to manually assign that reference over and over

[rigid island]

imagine you had 5 more components on the same object you want to grab, if you put them all in Awake/Start you now are building up your hang time for initializing your object .
Inspector reference is usually the best

[lucid brook]

understood! lol

thank you!!

[compact spire]

@heady iris fortunately it's not a required feature for what I'm trying to make, just a neat one

[heady iris]

And god help you if you have two of the same component!

[heady iris]

If you want to dig around for other packages, the term you're looking for would be "boolean mesh operations"

subtract A from B, join A and B, etc.

[latent latch]

I only ever use GetComponent if the script has a RequiredComponent attribute bound to it

but the whole multiple component thing is a problem, and this is why Godot's solution to 1 component per node is a good way to structure stuff

too bad GameObjects always need to include tranform values

[compact spire]

@heady iris The asset listed earlier seems to work, but it doesn't seem to have the source with it so that's kind of a bummer

[rustic rain]

how can i check if i'm connected to the internet?

in the game

[leaden ice]

make a test request to a website or web service

Usually - you'll want to test connectivity to your particular game service or whatever internet feature(s) you're trying to make sure are working.

[heady iris]

Yes -- you are connected to the internet if you can reach your game server

If the server is down, the entire Internet might as well be out

[wheat spruce]

Ping Google

It'll be unlikely that Google would be down

You get a response, you're good. No response, it's almost certainly a problem your end

[worldly hull]

i gonna ask a broad question

"in all monobehavior scripts, if this == null , it can only be that object being destroyed"

im asking this, because the team register events across game objects, but they dont even unsubscribe the events at all, so u can see theres too many

    if (this == null)
    {
      return;
    }``` on the function it registered

[somber nacelle]

the component or entire gameobject has been destroyed in that case, yes

[worldly hull]

im planning to unsubscribe all the events on onDestroy() , and then remove all these ugly null checks

[cosmic notch]

I am trying to take shot of this character and it should fill the render texture in the bottom right ,
These are the requirements
For any outfit combination (including hidden parts), any camera angle, and any action, when the user clicks the "Shoot" button, the animation should pause, and the character image visible in the current camera view should be adjusted so that it fully fits into the "ShootArea" frame. The visible content in the frame should then be captured as a texture and displayed in the "ShootResult" image.

https://pastebin.com/Qnxe3iMc

Pressing the shoot should redjust the camera and take teh shot , i dont know how to automatically calculate this

[misty drift]

Hello! Could you tell if you're using DI framework in your projects? And if so which ones?
I'm using zenject-extenject, but I feel comunity is quite dead around it and it's at some point not very easy to use (if need some advanced stuff).

[little meadow]

I always feel DI frameworks are overcomplicated... so I just manually inject the 5-10 things I may need to inject 🤷‍♂️

[thin aurora]

Except a DI framework is very useful since it allows you to pass dependencies through registering them under a lifecycle. This makes it possible to pass required dependencies between classes without the manual labour and without requiring access to internal classes that would want the dependency

Honestly, DI in Unity is silly because it would not solve this issue as much. Manual labour can still very much be omitted without it

[cold parrot]

The elimination of manual Labour is what makes people use it as a glorified singleton to inject everything without thinking about logic flow. I find idiomatic use of a DI container, with proper messaging up/down the hierarchy to be no less tedious than manual injection. And any kind of direct referencing between branches is absurdly difficult to maintain

[eager tundra]

I'm using VContainer, fully recommend it 👍

[cunning aspen]

Hello, could someone help me with gun orientation for my game? I have a gun on the right bottom side of my camera when I hold right mouse button, the gun is supposed to come in the center and fov of the camera changes. All of this happens but there are two problems : when I am rotating the camera along the x axis, the gun does not move along with it, meaning it is no longer at the corner when not in zoom mode, and when in zoom mode, i can just look up with the gun still pointing in the front

I have the gun as a child of the camera but still it is not rotating with the camera

what else can I try?

also, if it helps, i have created an animation to make the gun go from bottom right to center when aiming

[swift falcon]

How would I check if something is grounded no matter what surface its on?

[robust dome]

really easy to find many sources that explains it

[dusky niche]

is it okay to use a class inside a function directly like this?
I mean I'll be needing this all the time anyways as I'll call the function in update.
Physics.Raycast(groundCheck.position, -transform.up, out var hit, groundMask);

[swift falcon]

Are u answering me or

[robust dome]

yeah

[swift falcon]

It is easy to find for a plane and stuff but for any surface not

Im using perlin noise to generate a procedural map but it's a lot harder to check if its grounded considering my mesh may float on it so that's why im asking

[wheat spruce]

could you maybe cheat and just check if the object is within some distance of the floor?

you ideally want there to be a really clear and obvious rule for what defines a surface as ground, and likewise for having a really simple way to check if your object is grounded. These two things shouldnt be complicated as theyre pretty cut-and-dry things

[scarlet talon]

You need to check the hit's distance and its angle. Define what distance is appropriate for a flat surface, and as the steepness increases, so should the distance threshold of the hit

This avoids hovering on flat or soft angles (since you will be checking for shorter distances)

[brazen grove]

Does UGUI.Rendering.UpdateBatches always mean something is being marked as dirty? I'm using reflection to get a reference to the m_GraphicRebuildQueue of CanvasUpdateRegistry during Canvas.preWillRenderCanvases and it's not got anything in it, but UGUI.Rendering.UpdateBatches is still taking a lot of time every frame

[zealous lagoon]

In the past I could swear you could use InputAction.IsPressed() to see if you are holding down a button in the action (which is sort of confirmed on Unity docs), but I swear either after updating or something its no longer the case. Holding down the key makes IsPressed() be true for one frame and then back to false. Is there some other function for this? I didn't seem to find anything that worked.

Although strangely it does work on some input actions, just not all. I haven't changed them at all, so no idea why it'd stop working. Any help is appreciated

[heady iris]

we'll need to see the actions you're using

[zealous lagoon]

Like the Mappings file? It's simply left arrow key and right arrow key. Up and down work when holding, not these two.

[heady iris]

I need to see exactly what you have set up

Something must be different about the action that uses the up and down arrow keys vs. the action that uses the left and right arrow keys

[zealous lagoon]

but just in case:

[zealous lagoon]

its so weird, it worked before. I haven't worked on my title screen for a while, and I go back and it's broken like this. No idea how.

up and down are a Button too, set up the same way

[heady iris]

I also want to see if you have anything special on the individual bindings

e.g. "Left Arrow"

[zealous lagoon]

here, thanks for helping out by the way

[heady iris]

Do you see exactly the same thing in the bindings for the "Up" action?

(also, you have the wrong gamepad binding for Left)

[zealous lagoon]

oh yeah, thanks 👍

[zealous lagoon]

yes, except it says Up Arrow.

Actually I'll change it to left too and see if holding still works

[heady iris]

That shouldn't matter, but it is the only difference between the actions right now

[zealous lagoon]

yep it works

This is how I get input just incase:

    {
        get
        {
            if (LockControls) return false;
            return CurrentMap.Remappable.Left.IsPressed() || CurrentMap.Constant.Left.IsPressed();
        }
    }```

LockControls is always false, I print checked

[zealous lagoon]

inserting a print here reveals its true for exactly one frame, then goes back to false.

I think I'll try deleting the key bind and making a new one in the editor.

Wow, that fixed it

Thanks for trying to help out @heady iris, I appreciate it 👍
but seems like a random unity bug (or some hidden parameter)

ok wait things are very weird now, it works sometimes and sometimes not. If I figure out why I'll post here

[heady iris]

Huh, that's weird.

Do you have version control on this project? You could diff the asset to see if anything interesting changed

[zealous lagoon]

sadly not, I really should though. Anyway making a constant print it seems like how it behaves depends on which UI element I have selected? Seems very weird, I'm testing right now.

ok I have determined a script I made causes the issue, turning it off makes the issue go away. I'm just trying to figure out how I even managed to affect the new input system like that

[heady iris]

What does it do?

Is it turning actions on and off?

That would mangle the input state

[zealous lagoon]

no... its a custom slider component I made cause I didnt like the built in one

it only ever reads from the input system, atleast in theory

ok its update function causes this, commeting that out fixes it

[quick kindle]

anyone successfully used mapmagic2 on unity 6 macos? i used it a while ago on a windows machine and quite enjoyed it, just getting back into unity after a several-year break, and on my mac its ****ting the bed

[zealous lagoon]

hello

after commenting out like every line I found the problem, and it might actually be a unity bug?

when I call a delegate void it causes the problem

[heady iris]

What problem are you having? I'm using an ARM macbook and a few packages don't work for me because they provide an x86-only binary blob

[quick kindle]

eh i already deleted it from my project -- it looked like it was trying to use some noise dll and didnt have it? totally smelled like a mac bug

[heady iris]

That may have been an x86-only DLL

I can't use RealtimeCSG because it comes with a binary that doesn't work on this platform

[quick kindle]

yeah that was my worry, that it just doesnt work on mac

[heady iris]

(I have to wonder if I could get Rosetta involved somehow...)

[quick kindle]

i emailed author of mm2 and asked him if its supported

seems like i may have been too ambitious in expecting unity to play nicely with mac XD

@heady iris have you used any procedural terrain assets on mac? apple silicon

[heady iris]

I've had a pretty good experience, save for third party packages that ship with x86-only DLLs

One major thing is that MonoMod does not work on macOS ARM devices

That's used for Evil Editor Patching

[knotty sun]

C# dll's should not be a problem, IL is not hardware dependant. Native code dll's however are another story

[quick kindle]

yeah i think the error message mentioned native code dll

[heady iris]

Yeah, native code.

[heady iris]

It's a shame, because RealtimeCSG is fantastic

[quick kindle]

im correct in assuming tho -- thats a general problem, not just an editor problem? like even if im dev'ing on windows, a build with eg realtime csg wont run on mac (because it needs the native dll?)

[knotty sun]

Native code dll's are OS+Hardware dependant so, yes, you need a specific dll for the target platform

[quick kindle]

yeah k

[heady iris]

Well, in that case, it'd be fine -- that code is only used in the editor

But then for something like Steam Audio, which has a runtime component, it'd be no bueno

[quick kindle]

ah yeah. ok for something like mm2, thats a runtime function, so no bueno

[zealous lagoon]

Hello, I spammed a lot about my issue but just here to say I fixed it. A Disable call was sneaked in

[heady iris]

ah, that'll do it

[quick kindle]

vista procedural terrain -- no mac either! XD

f it, imma write my own procedural terrain generator XD

[bold pawn]

Does anyone know how to make good race car physics? I followed this tutorial, but my car spins and flips far too easily, and the acceleration and traction are garbage. https://youtu.be/DU-yminXEX0?si=7MeCGavNXYnJWB9P

[rain condor]

i just made a change in Project Settings to Script Execution Order however, i dont see any files updated/modified/created in my version control system. Ive reviewed my gitignore and nothing is jumping out at me. ive reviewed many files in the ProjectSettings dir and nothing looks like it has these settings. Anyone know where this is? I need this change to persist for all devs on the project.

im using Unity 6000.0.30f1

[night storm]

i think the best ones are on the asset store and cost money

[simple ridge]

Hi all, I am working on a project where I am generating procedural terrain and rendering it with Graphics.RenderPrimative. This is working well, however it does mean that this terrain has no collision.

I was wondering, what would be the best way to add collision for these meshes? I'd like to avoid having to generate 1000's of gameobjects as that seems like alot of unnecisary overhead. Is their a way to interact with the Physics systems collider data and add shapes to it in the same way as RenderPrimitive?

[fossil sedge]

I am completely fresh to this type of thing so I have no idea what channel to put this in but basically, I am following a tutorial for unity the very basics and I am using Visual Studio and in the vid the guy gets a list after typing "gameObject." and I do not. Is there a simple reason for this? The comments of the vid dont show any concern of this so I am convinced its a me problem.

I have searched the internet for a problem however I have no idea what im meant to search tbh.

[fleet gorge]

!ide

[tawny elk]

💡 IDE Configuration

If your IDE is not autocompleting code
or underlining errors, please configure it.

Select one:

• Visual Studio (Installed via Unity Hub)
• Visual Studio (Installed manually)
• VS Code
• JetBrains Rider
• :question: Other/None

[fleet gorge]

your visual studio doesn't know you're working with unity

[fleet gorge]

is this grid based or mesh based?

not sure how you're generating your primitives right now but having a GameObject following the player to serve as the collider works

[simple ridge]

Yes, a 3D grid. Though the collison volumes arn't hard set as cubes. They can be any shape that fits inside the cells volume

[fleet gorge]

yep in that case the method I proposed would work

change the collider depending on the block

[simple ridge]

Thanks, I assume this would be to have the game object poll the meshes and add them to a list of MeshColliders?

[fleet gorge]

Yep that's one way to go about it

[simple ridge]

I can see this working with an object pooling system, where I can load in the collider data for the player around itself, but what I am unsure on if the performance implications for having enemies do the same. Would this approach be scalable?

[fossil sedge]

Thanks alot 🙏

[fresh hazel]

Hey,
I have some UI I spawn that way:

for (int i = 0; i < _equipementManagementContainer.childCount; i++) Destroy(_equipementManagementContainer.GetChild(i).gameObject);

foreach (var eq in ship.Equipements.SelectMany(x => x.Info.CanHold).Distinct())
{
    var emp = Instantiate(_equipementManagementPrefab, _equipementManagementContainer);
    var amd = emp.GetComponent<AmmoManagementData>();
    amd.Init(ship, eq, updateAmmoData);
    ammoMData.Add(amd);
}

Which contains this code

public class AmmoManagementData : MonoBehaviour
{
    [SerializeField]
    private Button _add, _remove;

    // [...]

    public void Init(Ship ship, AmmoType ammo, Action updateAmmoData)
    {
        // Initialising some other things

        UpdateUIButtons();
    }

    public void UpdateUIButtons()
    {
        _add.interactable = /* Condition for add */;
        _remove.interactable = /* Condition for remove */;
    }
}

The first time I instantiate it, everything is fine, but when it get deleted and instantiated again, clicking on buttons give me this error:

MissingReferenceException: The object of type 'UnityEngine.UI.Button' has been destroyed but you are still trying to access it.
Your script should either check if it is null or you should not destroy the object.

However all references seems to be still good inside the Unity editor (the SerializeField is still well assigned for example)

Would anyone please know what the issue could be?

[plucky inlet]

I bet, you are assigning the buttons some clickevent or similar, and that is still trying to be fired even when you deleted the previous object

and as you are not showing the entire code, we wont know 😄 // [...]

[fresh hazel]

Hmm but the button I'm clicking is the new one, why would it fire event from the one deleted?

I'm spawning a prefab that indeed contains a button inside

[plucky inlet]

And what line is giving you the error?

[fresh hazel]

Buttons are "minus" and "plus" and reference the object i'm spawning

The ".interactable" one

[plucky inlet]

And those are still there when you destory everything inside _equipementManagementContainer?

[fresh hazel]

oh wait no sorry i'm stupid

I referenced that from elsewhere

Thanks a lot 🙏

[plucky inlet]

there you go 😄

[slim trail]

hello

how do I can changhe ParticleSystem.shape.scale via code because when I try to set to it my vector compiler says that is read only variable

Is there any way to do that?

If no what should I do to change that while player is in game

[knotty sun]

you first need to make a local variable for shape, then you can change scale.
unlike other properties you do not need to set shape back to particleSystem.
Refer to the docs if in doubt

[forest vigil]

Guys I need help, I'm making a moving platform and I need my player to attach to it. I tried making my player's velocity and the platform's velocity to be equal if the player is standing on it, but it started jittering. I tried then making the player become the platform's child, but it started inheriting its transform scale which is a problem because the scale is an important feature for both the platform and the player. What can I do?

using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class PlatformMover : MonoBehaviour
{
    public float platformSpeed = 5f;

    private void Update()
    {
        transform.Translate(Vector3.right * platformSpeed * Time.deltaTime);
    }

    private void OnCollisionEnter2D(Collision2D collision)
    {
        if (collision.gameObject.CompareTag("Player"))
        {
            collision.transform.SetParent(transform);
        }
    }

    private void OnCollisionExit2D(Collision2D collision)
    {
        if (collision.gameObject.CompareTag("Player"))
        {
            collision.transform.SetParent(null);
        }
    }
}```

[vestal arch]

probably the former, then fix the jittering issue, rather than the parent/child thing

[forest vigil]

how can I do that without making my player a child?

[vestal arch]

what code did you have with the former solution?

let's start there

[forest vigil]

The one above

[vestal arch]

that seems to be the latter solution

where's the code where you were

making my player's velocity and the platform's velocity to be equal if the player is standing on it

[wraith cobalt]

Why are you matching the velocity instead of just adding it to the player?

[fossil sedge]

Hey I am very new and don't understand what this means, its most likely really simple but I have no idea.

[vestal arch]

FindGameObject__s__WithTag gets multiple gameobjects, an array of them. you can't GetComponent on an array

[fossil sedge]

Ahhh so I need to remove the "s"

[knotty sun]

you are trying to get a component from an array rather than an element of the array

[leaden ice]

You put an extra s in there

[fossil sedge]

It works now, thanks alot guys. Now i'll know for next time 🙏

[robust dome]

he is assigning an array to an object does that really work

[vestal arch]

he's not assigning an array to anything

[robust dome]

doesnt GetComponents return an array

[vestal arch]

it does, but they aren't using it there

[leaden ice]

and where do you see them "assigning it to an object"?

[vestal arch]

they're trying to use GetComponent on an array, which isn't a thing

it's invalid from the method call, the assignment can't be checked since there's no valid type there to check

[robust dome]

wait what

because he said it is working now , that is why i am asking

[leaden ice]

GetComponent<Logic> returns a Logic

that is what's being assigned to the variable

which itself is of type Logic
there are no arrays involved.

[vestal arch]

he changed the FindGameObjectsWithTag to FindGameObjectWithTag so now there's no array at all

[robust dome]

oh lol i missread that i thought someon told him to use GetComponents instead.

i did not read that line never mind

[sleek crypt]

I tried using the VR Multiplayer template to build my game, but the Vivox connection doesn't seem to be working. When I run the game in the editor, I connect okay, but when I try to connect in a build on my Quest, I get stuck permanently trying to connect. I have permissions for microphone, sound and internet set up, and I've tried delinking and linking Unity services. Anyone have any advice?

[half vale]

void Reloader()
{
if (Input.GetKey(KeyCode.R) && m_LastTimeShot + AmmoReloadDelay < Time.time && m_CurrentAmmo < MaxAmmo){
// reloads weapon

           GetComponent<Animator>().SetTrigger("Reload");
            IsReloading = true;
            m_CurrentAmmo = MaxAmmo;    
            GetComponent<Animator>().SetTrigger("ReloadDone");
            IsReloading = false;

        }
                     else {
                     
                           }


    }

so basically it only will reload when the reload delay time elapses

is there a way for you to press the r key then the time passes then it does it

because now i have to keep ,ashing the key until the time elapses

[cosmic rain]

This is really a question for #💻┃code-beginner

You can implement some kind of input queue. In the simplest form, just set some reloadQueued bool to true if you press the button during a cool down and when the cool down is done, check the bool, reset it and start the reload again.

[half vale]

thank you

[hardy tartan]

When a coroutine starts and then play mode exits, the coroutine still runs and if it instantiates some objects then those will now remain in the editor. The expected behavior is that an object created from a coroutine at play time will be destroyed when exiting.

[cosmic rain]

Stop the coroutine when exciting play mode.

Unity doesn't know that the coroutine was started during play mode and that every API in it needs to behave the same way as in play mode, despite being in editor mode.

[hardy tartan]

"Unity doesn't know that the coroutine was started during play mode" Why not?

[cosmic rain]

Because it doesn't keep track of that information. It doesn't have any need to.

[hardy tartan]

Well it would keep my scene from having changes in it when I didn't make any changes.

[cosmic rain]

This a very specific case and it's the developer responsibility to handle it.

That being said, any running coroutines should stop normally, since the scene is usually reloaded on switching between play mode and editor. Do you have scene reload disabled or something?

[hardy tartan]

I don't see why. If I clone an object while in play mode and then exit play mode, it goes away. Why does it know about my changes but not a coroutine started during play time?

[cosmic rain]

It doesn't revert the object. It reloads the whole scene. Unity doesn't keep track of whether your individual changes were made at play mode or outside of it.

[hardy tartan]

Ah I see so the reload happens, then the coroutine is still running and then the objects get created. That makes a lot more sense. Thanks!

[cosmic rain]

No, if reload happens, your coroutine should stop, as the object that runs it would be destroyed.

It seems like in your case the object that runs the coroutine is not destroyed. Which is likely due to reload not happening. Perhaps you have it disabled in the settings.

[hardy tartan]

Oh it's not a coroutine, it's an async task if that makes any difference. I forgot I refactored this code to use async/await.

I'm not sure what you mean by settings. I don't have it set to DontDestroyOnLoad if that's what you mean.

[somber nacelle]

that definitely makes a difference. if you're on unity 2022+ just use the monobehaviour's destroyCancellationToken. otherwise you need to manage your own cancellation token(s) and cancel them when exiting play mode (or destroying the object)

[chilly surge]

An alternative option would be to use UniTask, which stops pending tasks when exiting play mode.

[hardy tartan]

Thank you!

[cosmic rain]

That makes a huge difference

In fact, you will run into far more serious problems with async if you're not handling it correctly.

[worn star]

if anyone knows HLSL help , why is the vertexInput and out put a float 4 , the object has so many vertices shouldnt it be a an array of float4s ?

i am super beginner

🙏

[mellow sigil]

#archived-shaders

[blissful carbon]

Excuse me, has anyone used Tesseract with Unity?
I've tried many methods, but it seems to keep showing this error.

[cosmic rain]

Ask in the appropriate channel next time( #archived-shaders ).

Shaders run many times for each data primitive(vertex or pixel), so each time it runs it only processes one vertex.

[zenith valley]

perhaps you're missing a package? (i might be wrong)

[blissful carbon]

Emm... I'm not really sure either, since this is my first time working on something related to OCR.

Also, there aren't many tutorial resources of this type, and I spent a long time searching for them myself.

[mossy snow]

if I saw it in a PR, instant rejection because it won't build. It does too much based on thisGameStatus. Looks like you mashed the logic of multiple things into one super script

[thin aurora]

We generally don't do code reviews

[stiff wasp]

ok

[thin aurora]

If you want that, make a thread

[stiff wasp]

Code Review

[neon yarrow]

Running into issues with Unity Version Control.

Changes to Scriptable Objects are not recognized by VC unless you either manually check out OR on editor shut down. This issue persists whether the change was made in the Inspector or programmatically with a set dirty flag. Manually refreshing assets also does not help. These changes are also undetected in the PlasticSCM desktop app.

Now surely I am doing something wrong as it would be unthinkable that after 2 years of development Unity would once again release a "stable" version with a bug which could cause massive amount of lost work.

Latest LTS, latest PlasticSCM.

Surely, this is not the issue in question: https://discussions.unity.com/t/scriptableobjects-are-not-updating-when-changed-on-the-filesystem-via-git/777923?page=2

Unity is an AWESOME game engine, but for nearly a decade they have been INFURIATINGLY bad about calling fflush() to write changed asset data to disk. 

[neon yarrow]

It was in fact the issue, the solution is to write your own editor extension which upon detecting an SO is marked dirty, to create a visual effect to indicate the object needs to be manually written to disk.

[misty drift]

Hello! Could you please suggest to me some good guides on architecure for gamedev?
I do know about different patterns and aproaches(MV patterns, layers, events, solid etc.), but when I try to mix those I have some issues. May be there is a good channel or site where I can find good examples on architecture?

For example It's easy for me to do mvp pattern for my enemy, but then I need manager to manage it, spawner etc. And it's becomes harder to integrate those parts.

[young tapir]

I'm trying to set up a basic scene class to manage physics material based audio, is there a way I can access scene wide collisions? I'm aware that basic MonoBehaviors have an OnCollision/Colliding event but that doesn't really suit my needs since I can't parent everything under the Scene gameObject.

Any advice would be great, this is pretty much my only hurdle 😁

[misty drift]

Could you clarify what you mean by "scene whide collisions"?

[young tapir]

Any collision, anywhere in the current scene

[misty drift]

And what you want to do for all those collisions?

[young tapir]

Check if the physic material matches that of the AudioLinker, and play a random sound from the list based on velocity

[misty drift]

Why you can't attach script to handle this logic on the object which will handle collisions?

[young tapir]

For every collider? Or every parent?

That seems very time consuming and inefficient compared to one central script managing the basic collisions lol

Scene is a manager class for the whole scene. I intend to manage the basic things like collision audio & effects so I don't have to spam a component

[misty drift]

Hm.. in this case I'm not sure. As far as I understand if you need to handle collision you still will need some script.
You can use singleton pattern to get your scene script so it's still one class to manage them all, but as far as I understand you will need to have some code to get OnCollision. Though may be there is better option...

[young tapir]

I am planning on having a singleton that just grabs the only active component, ya.
It seems a bit weird that there's no static event for Physics.OnCollision, or something similar :/

[misty drift]

Well you need to have some sort of object to actually collide as far as I understand. That's why static OnCollision doesn't make much sence.

I assume you have player moving on those materials, so may be you can have this script on player once, and then call your singleton manager there.

[young tapir]

Hm.. I could add a script to every collider that just invokes Scene.local.onSceneWideCollisionEvent 🤔

Or just.. The main parent lol

[misty drift]

oh okay

[weak snow]

Just imported starter asset character controller 1.1.0 for Unity 6
-cinemachine installed
even using Cinemachine or using Unity.Cinemachine doesnt work
Assets\Starter Assets\Editor\StarterAssetsDeployMenu.cs(6,13): error CS0234: The type or namespace name 'Cinemachine' does not exist in the namespace 'Unity' (are you missing an assembly reference?)
Any idea ?
The wierdest is i have another script runnin just fine with this
#if UNITY_2023_2_OR_NEWER
using Unity.Cinemachine;
#else
using Cinemachine;
#endif

[leaden ice]

They changed the namespace

It's now Unity.Cinemachine IIRC

[leaden ice]

Why is that last part weird? It's showing you exactly what's changed lol

[weak snow]

Because it's not working using Unity.Cinemachine, please read more carefully

Ok it's fixed, here's how to

[trim schooner]

is it in an asmdef?

oh there we go

[zenith zealot]

So i have a question. I want to check if an object that is bouncing is no longer moving (or at least very close to) but I am unsure of how for a few reasons

I of course check its absolute value for the velocity to account for it moving up and down, but its still going to periodically cross '0' when it changes directions. So then I thought what if I use some sort of time delay to see if its still in that value range after a certain amount of time, but I realized through bad luck it could be switching directions at the exact moment that is checked. so that wont work.

How can I check to be sure it is staying within a very small velocity range over the course of a couple seconds that way I know its done moving, or pretty much done moving

[vestal arch]

is it moving both horizontally and vertically?

[zenith zealot]

yes

also love the peko pfp sorry just had to mention it

i guess i could use some sort of loop that will keep going for a certain amount of time, that seems kinda yucky though

[deep stirrup]

Is there a way to serialize to JSON a Dictionary<> using JsonUtility? Everytime I try it just returns {}

And what about custom classes? No matter what I do, it return the same empty thing 😦

[rigid island]

nah just use newtonsoft

[deep stirrup]

🥹

[rigid island]

you could probably use structs or something, but it will probably be hella messy

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.nuget.newtonsoft-json@latest

[deep stirrup]

yeah, I'll try this, thank you!

[rigid island]

just regular classes/struct require to be [System.Serializable]

unity doesnt serialize them by default

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/Manual/script-serialization-rules.html

[deep stirrup]

oh, good to know!

[deep stirrup]

Yeah, that works, you saved some painfull hours of my time!

[weak snow]

it is just my first attempt in 1 minut so probably better ways, need improvments but i guess it will work

[rigid island]

1. use proper code formatting.
2. the code kinda sucks

[zenith zealot]

couldnt that still have annoying edge cases where the velocities coincidentally end up in spots that will false flag it as not moving

[weak snow]

Thanks for your help, i already love you.

[zenith zealot]

what im thinking would be best is to have some sort of loop that keeps checking the velocity constantly for lets say... 2 seconds and if at any time during those 2 seconds it leaves the range, the loop breaks. if it doesnt then the object is considered to be close enough to not moving

maybe?

[rigid island]

its ok save face and blame it as "AI code"

[hexed pecan]

Sounds like you just want a timer that counts when your velocity.magnitude is below a certain threshold

And resets when not

[zenith zealot]

YES!

[rigid island]

Start a coroutine when you plan on checking the magnitude

[young tapir]

Hello, I'm working on the collision method I mentioned earlier. My process is:

Loop through every collider and give them a collision handler. Each collision invokes a scene collision event, for effects etc. This part works perfectly. Getting the audio to play properly is where my issue arose.

I have a scriptableObject that uses a physicMaterial reference, along with some basic lists and Vector2s for audio. OnSceneWideCollisionEnter checks against a full list of all the MaterialLinks and compares materials. Which is always returning false. I've also tried comparing the material.name but flag is always false.

     public virtual void OnSceneWideCollisionEnter(Collision collision)
        {
            foreach (PhysicsMaterialAudioLinker audioLinker in physicsMaterialAudioLinkers)
            {
                bool flag = collision.collider.material == audioLinker.material;
                if (flag)
                {
                    if (sceneSettings.useCollisionDebug) Debug.Log("Hit material: " + collision.collider.material + "Matches current: " + flag);
                    if (collision.relativeVelocity.magnitude >= audioLinker.minMaxLowVelocity.x && collision.relativeVelocity.magnitude <= audioLinker.minMaxHighVelocity.y) InstantiateAudio(AudioImpactIntensity.Low, audioLinker, collision);
                    else if (collision.relativeVelocity.magnitude >= audioLinker.minMaxMediumVelocity.x && collision.relativeVelocity.magnitude <= audioLinker.minMaxMediumVelocity.y) InstantiateAudio(AudioImpactIntensity.Medium, audioLinker, collision);
                    else if (collision.relativeVelocity.magnitude >= audioLinker.minMaxHighVelocity.x && collision.relativeVelocity.magnitude <= audioLinker.minMaxHighVelocity.y) InstantiateAudio(AudioImpactIntensity.High, audioLinker, collision);
                }
            }
        }```

Has anyone got any idea as to why this'd be happening? Everything has been going pretty well thus far so some help would be appretiated 😁

https://pastebin.com/g4W8LCta Scene Script
https://pastebin.com/hcrVxym2 Collision Handler Script
https://pastebin.com/HkzFpKqE Audio Link Script

[zenith zealot]

a timer would be perfect!

[young tapir]

Sorry, I think I may have interrupted 😅

[rigid island]

use links for code

[zenith zealot]

i think at least

[young tapir]

Ah, let me change that quickly..

[rigid island]

what is the TLDR version of your issue.
Whats happening vs what you expect happening?

[young tapir]

Tldr; Comparing a physic material reference in a scriptable object vs one referenced in a collider is always returning false, I understand that PhysicMaterial references are Types but even comparing name doesn't work.

[rigid island]

so you want to check if both have the same physics material or something?

[young tapir]

Ya, exactly.

[rigid island]

I wonder if its counting it as an Instance of the material so if its checking that rather than the type

[young tapir]

I did notice the physicMaterial reference in the collider is set to (instance) as soon as OnSceneWideCollision triggers

[rigid island]

goodluck running timer++ on different framerates

[young tapir]

I'd say I could just set the AudioLink material to the instance in the collider but, there's no way of knowing whether they're the same without already doing that :/

[rigid island]

oh yeah that might be creating its own instance of it

[zenith zealot]

tbh framerate isnt really an issue at the end of the day since exact time doesnt matter, just a general one

[rigid island]

lol okay

[zenith zealot]

since all i need to do is know if it hasnt been moving past a certain speed for a couple seconds. being off by, hell even a whole half second is fine

[rigid island]

making timers without using framerate independent functions defeats the point of a timer

[zenith zealot]

tho i probably wont use a timer

im thinking of just using a while loop that checks delta time? or is that an awful idea

[weak snow]

just add in fixedupdate for timer

[rigid island]

deltaTime isn't something you check. its a number you use for calculations

[zenith zealot]

man, i havent touched unity in 2 years

would it just be time then?

[rigid island]

its justs saying "multiply this by the time between each frame" so it becomes framerate independent

so IF you wanted to make a timer you would need time += Time.deltaTime

[weak snow]

you can check time at first then compare to time yes

[young tapir]

Is there a way to convert it to a generic type of the original material? I'm a bit confused on how that'd be rectified 😅

[thin aurora]

I suggest you take navarone's advice since so far they have been one of the only ones giving some actual usable advice

[zenith zealot]

basically in pseduco code

while(time < time + variable)
{
do this
}

[rigid island]

I'm trying to think if its a better way to do this

Maybe not relying so much on physics material but some type of flag you set? I still don't know what the usecase is

[rigid island]

to make things easier I would suggest using a Coroutine
but you can easily use the Update loop too with a proper Timer using DeltaTime or Time.time

[young tapir]

Collision audio based on the physic material, for instance a glass physic material would play glass sound effects at different intensities based on velocity.

[rigid island]

its dirty as hell but maybe take the name of the material to use in a lookup like Dictionary ?

[weak snow]

Why not using fixedUpdate instead ? Isn't it more reliable because we are talking about rb magnitude so physics needs update ?

[rigid island]

sure checking the velocity magnitude might make more sense in FixedUpdate, I just wouldn't put a timer there because it will be based on the PhysicsLoop not an actual timer

I suppose you can use Time.FixedDelta in fixedupdate timer, but its probably not even needed if you're just checking the rb.velocity

[thin aurora]

How can I check to be sure it is staying within a very small velocity range over the course of a couple seconds that way I know its done moving, or pretty much done moving
Maybe I misunderstand the question here, but if you want to check over a period if the velocity has been low to none, then I suggest you do two things:

• In FixedUpdate check if velocity is low to none. If this is the case, store Time.time in a variable.
• In Update, periodically check the variable passes a timestamp. For example, if you want to check if the ball has been with low velocity for 5 seconds, you compare Time.time against the variable plus 5 seconds.
• In the event the ball does increase velocity and you check this in FixedUpdate, you reset the variable back, for example to null to indicate there's nothing to check..

Simple check takes just a single variable and no coroutines

[young tapir]

That gave me an idea, bool flag = collision.collider.material.name.Contains(audioLinker.material.name);, which worked!

[weak snow]

not velocity, magnitude

[young tapir]

The name has (instance) in it lmao. I am sad I missed that

[rigid island]

nice! dirty but hey it works lol

[thin aurora]

JFC, the wiki of Time.time has an example that uses timestamps exactly like I mean

[rigid island]

yeah had no idea they were instantiated, iirc that happens on material if you modify something on it but no idea it did that by default on physic material

[zenith zealot]

Man I'm sorry if I'm being dumb. I maye have majored in game development but, the market is shit so I'm rusty. Thsts why I'm trying to get my act together and do my own stuff

[rigid island]

its fine you have many ways to go about this, ultimately you should pick whatever seems easier to you

[hexed pecan]

Weird that the direct comparison of PhysicMaterials didn't work though... You aren't making instances of them or anything are you?
I would print the names and instance ID's of the compared physicsmaterials in an else when if(flag) fails

[zenith zealot]

plus the wisconsin college system is a joke that doesn't teach crap

[rigid island]

most colleges teach you crap thats either outdated or not useful in the real world

[young tapir]

Collisions turn them into an instance.
I'm assuming my material link is no different, so they're both instances and thus, different. Even at a direct comparison

[zenith zealot]

its more that like, things get brushed over so fast you don't even learn them. I think in the 5 years i was there, 1 lecture talked about pointers. Thats it. Subject never came up again lol

[young tapir]

But hey, it works perfectly. Just gotta go download a bunch of audio clips now lol

[zenith zealot]

just as an example

dozens of other examples exist

[rigid island]

yeah they have to throw so much material at you thinking you will use them all. Its good stuff to learn, just not in a school context. Mostly you can learn this stuff on your own when you encounter it imo

[hexed pecan]

Yeah if they are instances then it explains why it didn't work before

[weak snow]

I just learned C# and Unity by myself and got certificated, but i did exactly what you want in like 5 projects. I just don't have the code here.
FusedQyou solution is close to mine. And i agree to avoid coroutines + it will be on a lot of objects it can be very confusing (and if you set timescale somewhere here goes the headache)

[thin aurora]

If you want to learn, you really have to take time and make things

You don't learn by listening, or watching

[rigid island]

yeah pointers ARE important to know of course, especially low level. Butin C# for example you're not really dealing with pointers by default (its managed for you)

[thin aurora]

You have to make stuff. Make stupid stuff. Make broken stuff

As long as you make stuff and it's yours

[zenith zealot]

yep, in college i did a bit of game dev on my own time. I've just gotten rusty since like, i gotta also balance a job due to my major not getting me shit, its hard to find that time

adulting hard

[rigid island]

it gets harder once you have gray hair on your 🥜

[hexed pecan]

@young tapir Btw do you need to instantiate the physics materials?
Because using the material property automatically instantiates it when accessed. If you don't need that, use sharedMaterial
(It's similiar to how Renderer.material/sharedMaterial works)

[rigid island]

Ahhh that makes sense why it was creating an instance..

[young tapir]

I'm not sure how sharedMaterial would work actually 🤔
Is it every material on that gameObject instead of just one specific collider's material?

[hexed pecan]

Collider.sharedMaterial gives the one on that collider

[rigid island]

^ the asset not an instance

[hexed pecan]

The main question is - are you modifying the physics materials or no?

[young tapir]

I am not, that seems better then

[hexed pecan]

Yep go with sharedMaterial 100% then

[rigid island]

oh unity..forget they have material vs sharedMaterial

[hexed pecan]

Can also get rid of the name.Contains check too and just use comparison

[young tapir]

Well that was a huge oversight on my end haha, thank you for pointing that out

[rigid island]

same lol I forgot even just accessing the property changes to instance, I thought only modifying did.
the more you know 💫

🤖 code

[zenith zealot]

i'm making my own spaghetti code right now, i think i got it

like its probably awful code

but it should work

[hexed pecan]

Sick commentcs // Get the Rigidbody component rb = GetComponent<Rigidbody>();

[weak snow]

Doing your own stuff is the best way yes, i took it as a little exercise for my pause. Now i go 😉

[rigid island]

we can change it to Bots now

[zenith zealot]

i always feel gross when i have a lot of ifs nested

[tulip spruce]

so I have three scrips, one where after a selection if health is 0 then I save the survival time since aplication start. Then another script for enemies, so when enemies health goes to 0 I increase the count with one to KilledenemyCount. Now I this third script I want to calculate a score based of these two paramaters and then pass it into the highscore table. But I am unsure how to do this the best way.

[zenith zealot]

and by a lot i mean 3 or more

[rigid island]

use the Early return pattern

helps with the nesting

https://www.c-sharpcorner.com/article/early-return-pattern-in-c-sharp/

if(unwantedIstrue) return
// more code etc.

[weak snow]

dude it's AI generated i just prompted the logic and read the general workaround. Lot of negative people here i'm pretty disappointed... I know programmers are lacking social skills but hey, instead of being like this can't you help me to get better or help the one calling for help ?

[hexed pecan]

We all know it's AI generated lol

[rigid island]

getting better is not replying to someone problem using generated code that doesn't make much sense

sure the code generated makes a timer, but it isn't practical to use for OPs problem

if you want to get better, dont use AI to generate any code. Simple enough

[weak snow]

I'm sorry but no, it does and it works because i tested it. So tell me why it isnt practical i'm still open to llearn

[hexed pecan]

It does look like it should work 🤷‍♂️

[rigid island]

I'm talking about the originals before you did the fixups

[weak snow]

I did thousand of lines since 2017 thank you, but for a simple problem i can make a simple prompt. You didnt throw any code, i did my best

[fresh cosmos]

Hey so quick question. If i load 2 scenes with async, and one scene is priority 1 and the other 0. Will the scene with priority 0 not load until scene 1 has been enabled?

Because from what i can tell this is the case. Scene 0 is at 0 progress until i enable the first scene and then both finish loading

[thin aurora]

Can you not?

[tulip spruce]

is it possibl to get the return value from these when they are called from another script?
public float GetSurvivalTime(float time)
{
Debug.Log($"survial time from scoreCaluclator script {time}");
return time;
}

public int IncrementKilledEnemies()
{


    count = count + 1;
    Debug.Log($"current count is {count}");
    return count;
}
public void ScoreCalculator()
{

}

[rigid island]

spoonfeeding code sometimes isn't the answer. Explaining / walking through the problem with OP will be more benificial in the long run but hey you do you.
If you post on a public forum you have to be open to any critisim, i have no issue if someone corrects me. I don't take it as some offense or something lol

[weak snow]

Of course there will always need fix, but to fix properly i need some discussion. I didnt know what she really wanted first

[thin aurora]

Both the spoonfeeding and the useless AI code is not helping

[hardy tartan]

Can we spare the philosophy of programming banter?

[zenith zealot]

alright

[hexed pecan]

Yes, they are public. What did you try?

[zenith zealot]

    {

        if (character.getFired()) //if character has been fired
        {
            //if the character is moving under a certain speed after being fired it is counted as no longer moving
            if (Mathf.Abs(character.getXVelocity()) <= velVar && Mathf.Abs(character.getXVelocity()) <= velVar && timerTest == false) //these numbers are place holders
            {
                timerTest = true;
                testTimeEnd = Time.time + timeVar;
            }
        }


        if (timerTest == true)
        {
            if(Time.time < testTimeEnd)
            {
               if (Mathf.Abs(character.getXVelocity()) > velVar && Mathf.Abs(character.getXVelocity()) > velVar)
                {
                    timerTest = false;
                    Debug.Log("still moving");
                }
            }
            else
            {
                Debug.Log("moving has ended");
            }
        }
    }```
how bad is my spagehtti code?

[thin aurora]

Does it work? Then it's not bad

[tulip spruce]

#archived-code-general message this is my goal, and this is what I tried to do.

[zenith zealot]

i should probably test if it does lmao

[rigid island]

as long as it works its fine, just make it legible
(check out the early return pattern I suggested)

[thin aurora]

Probably better than just posting the code 😛

[zenith zealot]

ya know, might be helpful if i didnt check the x velocity only lmfao

[hexed pecan]

If you are asking how to access a return variable, you just do cs float survivalTime = otherObject.GetSurvivalTime();Or whatever

[hexed pecan]

Why does GetSurvivalTime just return the value you pass in though?

[zenith zealot]

seems to work, tho ill have to find a way to test edge cases

thanks so much!

[tulip spruce]

I want it to save the time I pass into a variable I can use in the scorecalculator script which I pasted above. And this GetSurvivalTime is called and passing the survivaltime in the playerHealth script currently. (idk if this is a good way)

[weak snow]

Correcting me doesnt offend me. But you didnt, just saying bad code and format, that's why i got taunt. But ok, if you think i "spoonfed" maybe i did, i just got 500+ students but it was years ago, now i'm more kind and helpful.

[tulip spruce]

if (health <= 0)
{
survivalTime = Time.time;
Debug.Log($"survivaltime from playerHealth {survivalTime}");

    scoreCalculator.GetSurvivalTime(survivalTime);
    enemySpawner.DisableSpawning();

    SceneManager.LoadSceneAsync(0);
    Destroy(gameObject);
}

like this currently

[weak snow]

read this https://docs.unity3d.com/2020.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/Rigidbody-velocity.html

[hexed pecan]

Sounds like it should be SetSurvivalTime, not Get?

Or maybe you want both

[tulip spruce]

right, I should. Bad naming of me

[rigid island]

no worries. we tryina help.
I mean I still thought the code was bad but I knew it was generated, no foul no harm though.
have a good day 👍

[zenith zealot]

i lied, but ill have to check later what i did wrong

[hexed pecan]

@tulip spruce You can do cs public float GetSurvivalTime() => time; public void SetSurvivalTime(float newTime) => time = newTime;
Or just use public properties (or fields if you want).

And time would be a private variable in that class I suppose (maybe rename to survivalTime)

[tulip spruce]

okay, not sure if I explained corretly. But maybe this will work

when this is called in antoher script: scoreCalculator.SetSurvivalTime(survivalTime);
I want to obtain the reurn value that SetSurvivalTime gives in another script? I do not know if this is possible

[zenith zealot]

I'm dumb. The issue is that while I am making sure both x and y velocity are below a threshold to start checking if movement stopped, I'm also checking to be sure BOTH are above it to stop checking. It should check if either is

Tho, do i even need to check them individually? I could probably just check velocity itself right?

[weak snow]

How can i not ? (you're talking about the code taking too much screen space ? How can i help with code then ?)

[hexed pecan]

Show me how Get/SetSurvivalTime works.
The code you posted last doesn't make sense

[rigid island]

magnitude for example is both X and Y combined.

even though you should use the sqrMagnitude version as its more efficient

[weak snow]

Dude i told you to read about magnitude

And i did all the code for you, read it

[weak snow]

Oh yeah i eared about that, but i don't "really" get why

[rigid island]

it saves you doing a square root operation which can be arguably "expensive" to do every time

instead you just multiply it by itself and you're good
so

var sqMag = rb.velocity.sqrMagnitude
if(sqMag * sqMag > someThreshold)```

[zenith zealot]

Your code was ai no? No offense but I ignore ai stuff like that. The kind that takes away from human work. because I am strongly against it

[weak snow]

Ah yes, thanks

[zenith zealot]

Ai art, coding, music, etc

[rigid island]

the important part about coding isn't to generate code, its to learn how to reason and logic your way thorough

[zenith zealot]

That too

[rigid island]

thats why AI suck, they just regurgitate stuff on the internet, you aren't learning how to problem solve

[weak snow]

It was AI generated, then a human, me, read it, corected it, and tried to help you. Being against it won't change your problem, it's a tool. Then i told you to READ about the importance of magnitude instead of checking velocity and you just ignored it.

[thin aurora]

I'm sure you know well enough that these lazy AI answers are not going to help somebody in the slightest

[zenith zealot]

Like i said I mean no offense, maybe you had useful info in there. But the second I see that something had ai involved i just block it out completely

[rigid island]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/scripting-vectors.html @zenith zealot this will be handy . bookmark it

[zenith zealot]

will do ty

[weak snow]

well it's sad, i learned a lot with AI. I does so much mistakes i learned a lot debugging it. But it does throw a base. An imperfect base to work on.

[zenith zealot]

you are entitled to your opinions, and if it worked for you, thats great. But i abhor it

especially as someone who has been financially affected by ai

[thin aurora]

It's also just horrible advice. I already posted my 2 cents an hour ago but the idea of suggesting AI to somebody is just going to cause more harm than good.

[weak snow]

I do understand your point, i have a lot of teachers and artist as friends. Don't abhor it, tame it, or the financial issue will get bigger (i hope not, but im pragmatic)

[zenith zealot]

now the real question is, would this even be more efficient by any noticeable amount

[weak snow]

well, "lazy AI" was if i didnt prompted well and not corrected anything. Does the code i posted work exactly like Ashley demanded ? Yes it does.
Thank you for this instructive discussion, i'm feeling kinda old those days and i feared being outdated, but i see that a lot of people are sensitive about tech improvement (and yes, AI is an improvment).
Ai is a powerful tool, and as any powerful tool it has to be used with care.
Now i know why my company had so much bad talks with professionnal programmers/artist about AI...

[zenith zealot]

i don't see ai as a tool because it flat out steals, no matter how you look at it. Unless every last bit of it is trained solely on things owned by the company that made the ai, its stealing

[hardy tartan]

You're trained on other people's code and art etc. You didn't invent language. We all steal. That's why AI steals. Because it is like us.

[zenith zealot]

There is a massive difference between a machine learning it and a person

[hardy tartan]

If you say so.

[zenith zealot]

a person learns, a machine just takes a ton of assets and regurgitates something from that

[weak snow]

Think about any improvment is a kind of steal of the past system. It's all political to fix some global rules, but this will never happen. We just need to work with it, or get f**** by it :/

[vestal arch]

oh boy, could we possibly not have this discussion here

[hardy tartan]

What it even means to "understand" something is an open problem in philosophy.

[zenith zealot]

yeah lets not tbh, sorry for even getting into it

thats on me

[thin aurora]

AI is definitely useful, but we don't need somebody posting spoonfed and lazy AI answers here. Nor do we need somebody telling others to use AI to fix their code because that is going to seriously harm beginners and their ability to both code and debug

And yes, please stop this discussion. Just don't post AI here if you're going to contribute with help

[zenith zealot]

beginner... i have a degree 😭

[vestal arch]

• Don’t post unverified AI-generated responses in questions or answers; check for accuracy, and state what’s AI-generated.
#📖┃code-of-conduct - that's the stance the server takes.

the spoonfeeding aspect is also not great.

can we skip the lengthy discussion

[weak snow]

Yeah that went to far sorry, just being taunt for using it to help someone. I won't make this mistake here again because it's clearly unproductive, but hey it works in my company and we need less programmer time for simple questions.

[zenith zealot]

like i said, my bad for getting into the argument. thats entirely on me

[vestal arch]

you aren't the only person here, though.
lurkers can also benefit or be harmed from content here

[thin aurora]

Well, just in general. Some people are absolutely oblivious when it comes to debugging, and we have had plenty of people that come here and wonder why their AI generated garbage is not working

[zenith zealot]

no i know, im just making a joke

[weak snow]

deleting my posts is the only thing to do, sorry that it goes like this, i'm quitting this 🙂

[vestal arch]

fyi: the general stance in most help servers/communities is to not use AI-generated stuff as answers, and that AI-generated stuff can be a base/starting point, but never a complete solution, but it's not a good starting point/recommendation for beginners since a beginner wouldn't know how to make it complete/correct

while it might work in your company with experienced professionals (to each their own), it kinda breaks down for a general audience

[rigid island]

small things add up lol not something you should worry too much in the beginning . most people don't care about it but I see it as if you can optimize it so simply , why not

[thin aurora]

Thankfully this AI talk is a recurring issue so I'll see you all in the next meeting

[hardy tartan]

It is just a form of bike shedding.

[weak snow]

Well i did that with very young students, throwing something imperfect to their face (AI stuff is good for that) and i let them questionning what is done and why. But here it's just a trigger so delete, even my solution because yes, people need to stop to be lazy. I'm not, i'm just struggling with time.

[hardy tartan]

Everyone is lazy. Why would you be a programmer if you weren't lazy? Just do it all by hand with pencil and paper like a true artisan.

[vestal arch]

support is a time-intensive process, if you're short on time you might just want to avoid starting convos/discussions that you don't have time to continue, especially here where it's pretty active
then you can go have fun with the newfound free time lol

[knotty sun]

That is a typical BS response from someone who has no clue what they are talking about

[hardy tartan]

That's not a productive comment so I will not be engaging with it.

[thin aurora]

You think it's a good idea to "throw" "imperfect" code to people who are looking for genuine help without any indication that there's an issue with it? Or is this bad wording?

[weak snow]

I do this like a little exercise, finding a little solution to a little problem is my way to have small entertainment on my breaks. I just have no idea how it will trigger professionals (because im not, i make C# for fun).

[knotty sun]

Let me clarify for you. Programming something makes what you have done available to millions, pen and paper does not. you cannot equate the two. Programming is not intinsicly lazy

[rigid island]

they're confusing automation with programming

[hardy tartan]

Yes there are differences between writing with pencil and paper, and programming. I'm glad you spotted that. The problem with your observation is... I never stated otherwise.

[weak snow]

No it's not bad wording (although my english isnt that good) it's a method of teaching. Then i throw the good answer and the sources but everything went to AI discussion instead of a discussion about the initial topic.

[thin aurora]

People really don't need somebody that forces them to go through hoops with intentionally bad code

Just help them, and help then without posting AI to save time

[vestal arch]

(im pretty sure they're a troll at this point)

[hardy tartan]

No you're just making strawmen and getting angry about them.

[vestal arch]

angry
yeah definitely a troll

[thin aurora]

I tend to explain the process to them and link articles from https://unity.huh.how/ when applicable instead of spoonfeeding the answer, for example.

[hardy tartan]

Calling my statements BS sounds angry...

[vestal arch]

sorry but; you haven't really said anything of substance here

getting argumentative over nothing is pretty reminiscent of troll behavior, so if you aren't one, maybe consider that

[hardy tartan]

Okay but now you're changing topics. First you said he wasn't angry and I said using the word BS sounds angry and then you just ignored that and kept on going to the next topic.

It takes two to argue...

[vestal arch]

right, exactly, i didn't say BS, that was steve

[weak snow]

Dude, when i post the clean code they tell its spoonfedding, when i suggest some reading it's ignored, when i post imperfect code it's hoops... I earned my life teaching with these methods.

[hardy tartan]

So why take up his mantle?

[vestal arch]

i didn't

i wasn't even talking to you wtf

[hardy tartan]

Okay.. then what are we talking about here?

You're calling me a troll...

[vestal arch]

well, if you aren't, then no need to continue that line of discussion.

[thin aurora]

This is not a "teaching" channel though, this is a help channel. Feel free to "teach" the correct way, but don't spoonfeed and/or post intentionally bad code

In case you didn't notice, there are far better approaches to getting somebody to learn a process (like I said, linking documentation, pushing in the right direction with tips)

And I very much doubt your AI code was supposed to be some learning excercise

Also happy 2 hours since the inception of their question which sparked this discussion

[hardy tartan]

It's almost like people can have different opinions and personalities and that's okay.

[sonic venture]

What happened here?

[royal parrot]

its actually funny how many students in uni fully rely on chatgpt (but also kinda sad )

[rigid island]

we can probably just like move on from this yes? keep it Unity coding questions

[weak snow]

I tried to help fast with AI generated code, now i'm trying to avoid the bullets. Even after deleting all i posted. But this discussion need to stop, yes.

[sonic venture]

I can't say anything I didn't read it. Isnt this a coding help channel?

[thin aurora]

Just to clarify, there's no dodging bullets here. Feel free to end the discussion but if you respond in a way that makes it seem like you don't understand the point then I'm just responding back, which is to not post generated code as an answer and/or sugegst the use of ChatGPT for their answer. Not sure how else I could form this.

[weak snow]

Yes it is, and i won't come back here because it felt bad. Good day anyway, and sorry for being misunderstood, i really tried to help and i'll never do it here.

[vestal arch]

yes, if you need help feel free to ask

[young tapir]

Hello, I managed to get the collision audio from my previous messages here working perfectly. Even swapped to different audio based on the material hit, relative to the current material.

I do have one, pretty glaring issue though, when two things collide, both play audio 😅
Each collider gets a CollisionHandler in Awake, which means that both CollisionHandler scripts invoke the scene collision, which plays them both. Here's the code: https://pastebin.com/xZVd8Fab

My question is, is there an easy way to compare the velocity of two gameObjects without a rigidbody? I tried something that checks distance between the gameObjects last position to see how fast it's moving but did not end up working.

I'll also add the scene & Material link:
https://pastebin.com/0abGJCxa
https://pastebin.com/xze3qH5Y

[soft escarp]

should i use this formule

V⁰ x ∆t + ((∆V / ∆t) x ∆t²) / 2
for the dynamic gravity? i just want to make the gravity change over time for a rigidbody object

[leaden ice]

Context?

[soft escarp]

none

[heady iris]

this is an equation of motion

[leaden ice]

^ yeah

[soft escarp]

yeah

[leaden ice]

So what does it have to do with Rigidbodies

[heady iris]

I don't know why it divides the velocity by the amount of time that has passed, though

[wheat spruce]

Change gravity in what way? Do you want it so objects can get inverted gravity?

[heady iris]

Rigidbody doesn't have a convenient "gravity scale" property

However, you can just apply your own force

[leaden ice]

Rigidbody2D does

[soft escarp]

and im not working in 2D

[leaden ice]

but for Rigidbody you can use

FixedUpdate() => rb.AddForce(customGravity, ForceMode.Acceleration);``` to do your own custom gravity

(and turn off normal gravity)

That formula wouldn't be useful though

[wheat spruce]

yeah, theres nothing special about gravity itself, its literally just a constant force that moves an object down

replace that gravity force with your own, and now you control which way gravity is

[leaden ice]

The formula you actually want (assuming you're talking about simulating planets or orbits or something) is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_law_of_universal_gravitation

To calculate the current gravity force

[soft escarp]

wouldnt it accelerate the rigidbody for a few seconds before it reaches the customGravity force?

[leaden ice]

What does that question even mean?

[heady iris]

how do you "reach" a force?

a force is not a velocity

[leaden ice]

You might be confusing "force" with "speed" or something

[vestal arch]

gravity is a force/acceleration

[soft escarp]

probably

[vestal arch]

force is just acceleration over mass / acceleration is force per mass

[soft escarp]

so it just extends to infinity?

[leaden ice]

Step 1 is probably to achieve a basic understanding of newtonian physics - especially the relationship between forces, masses, velocity, and position

[vestal arch]

what is "it"

[heady iris]

things tend to fall faster and faster over time, yes

The only reason you don't accelerate forever is that drag starts slowing you down

[leaden ice]

Typically you hit the ground well before infinity

[heady iris]

well, and that

kersplat

[soft escarp]

so i just use addforce(downwardforce*int, forcemode.acceleration) and i shouldnt worry about anything?

[heady iris]

[leaden ice]

What do you mean by "not worrying about anything"?

[heady iris]

If you want to just get a multiple of normal gravity, you can use Physics.gravity * whatever

[leaden ice]

Basically the point of that code is that you would be calculating the customGravity vector elsewhere

and then you can modify it however you please.

[soft escarp]

not doing anything else than this piece of code

[vestal arch]

acceleration is velocity over time
if you have constant net acceleration and infinite time then velocity will also be infinite
net acceleration would be gravity minus air resistance/drag, which is proportional to velocity squared, so drag will eventually catch up to gravity, and the point at which they cancel each other out is terminal velocity

[leaden ice]

Then there's no point in doing this at all.

What are you trying to actually achieve

it's not clear

[heady iris]

well, nothing else beyond this code to get custom gravity for this object

which is true

(just make sure you turn off gravity on the rigidbody, so that you don't get both normal gravity AND your own forces)

[leaden ice]

If you want this particular object to have different gravity than the other objects, sure it makes sense

[heady iris]

void FixedUpdate() {
  rb.AddForce(Physics.gravity, ForceMode.Acceleration);
}

[leaden ice]

if you want the gravity to "change over time" as you said before, it doesn't make sence.

But I'm not sure you understand the difference between gravity and velocity now.

[heady iris]

This recreates standard gravity for a rigidbody.

If I do some crazy thing to the force vector, then we no longer have normal gravity

void FixedUpdate() {
  rb.AddForce(Physics.gravity * Mathf.Sin(Time.time), ForceMode.Acceleration);
}

this would make gravity oscillate up and down

[soft escarp]

i think i got into some controversial topic

[leaden ice]

Nah you just... asked a question that you didn't realize you were asking

And weren't clear about your intentions

[vestal arch]

no lmao, we're just super confused on what you actually want to get

[leaden ice]

so we're trying to sort out what you actually want

[soft escarp]

just as always lol

[heady iris]

We're concerned because this formula would only be relevant if you were trying to compute the exact velocity and position of the object

You don't need to do that, though. That's why we have a physics system.

You just shove it with forces and stuff happens

[soft escarp]

yes

[wheat spruce]

oh nah, dont worry. I think its just crossed wires, its not a insult but it does seem like youve misunderstood aspects of how rigidbodes work, so your questions are worded a little strangely as a result

[soft escarp]

just as ol' Cave Johnson intended
throw peas at the wall and see what happens

[wheat spruce]

im pretty sure it was something about making orange juice

the oranges explode or catch on fire or something like that

[leaden ice]

Basically instead of this question, it would have caused less confusion and led to faster help for you if you just asked "How do I get one object in the scene to have different gravity than the rest of the scene"?

(although I'm still not sure if that's what you want)

[soft escarp]

why does life give me lemons? take the lemons away from me! what am i supposed to do with these?

[soft escarp]

more like (downward) acceleration of gravity not some static unity gravity type of thing

[leaden ice]

(downward) acceleration of gravity
Yeah no idea what that means

gravity is a thing that causes downward acceleration of objects

[soft escarp]

you can always accelerate the gravity upwards i think

wait no

it would happen with negative gravity

my bad

[vestal arch]

no, upwards gravity just means you're redefinining "down" or where the gravity points

[leaden ice]

Since it's a vector, the vector itself can't really be "negative" (although individual xy or z components can be), it would just be a vector pointing in the opposite direction

(in the sense that vectors cannot have negative magnitude)

Anyway still don't know what you're asking lol

are you saying "I want gravity to get stronger or weaker over time"?

[vestal arch]

technically acceleration of gravity is already negative by convention since up is typically positive

[soft escarp]

idk
i made 9.81 force in the unity's physics settings window or something like this

[vestal arch]

anyways, what is it that you're actually trying to do

[leaden ice]

that's the default.

And what issue is there with that?

[vestal arch]

in high-level terms, not with this physics jargon

[soft escarp]

i dont get the physics now
my head is now a bunch of unsorted info
-# just as it shall be

[leaden ice]

Well at some point you could write a simple sentence in english explaining what you're trying to do.

[soft escarp]

im Polish so my english is not perfect yet😅

[leaden ice]

write it in polish?

See how Google Translate handles it lol

[heady iris]

This does not make any sense

Perhaps you can show an example of a game that does what you want to do?

[soft escarp]

i saw some dev guy on yt shorts talk about gravity in 2D games(he did it by hand, he did not set it in rb2D)
some game about a blue haired ninja or smth

[vestal arch]

gravity is just a specific acceleration

usually down

[heady iris]

Some games will have gravity that changes over time to produce a different "feeling"

like a jump that's floatier than it ought to be

[soft escarp]

now while were talking about gravity, its really weird thing
one thing pushes you and other thing keeps you at the surface

[vestal arch]

the normal force, yes

[soft escarp]

i hate floaty jumps
especially when the gravity is the same as you descend

[rigid island]

your decent gravity should be heavier than your ascend if you want it to feel nicer

[spare dome]

How can I find the sides/faces on given objects that face match the closest (that are facing away) to the current direction given?

sorry if this is kind of confusing

[leaden ice]

Well it's unclear sort of because one of them you have TWO lines on for some reason

you want the face that looks the most away from the object?

or you want all faces that are looking a certain amount away from it?

In either case you'd probably just iterate over all the normal vectors of the faces and check the angle between that normal and the direction towards the yellow dot

ANd depending on what your heuristic is, you include the face or not

[spare dome]

I want all of the faces that face the to the closest direction compared to the current Direction which in this case being the red line

[leaden ice]

that sounds like the opposite of what those blue lines are

waait what is the red line?

I thought the red arrow was just pointing out the player.

If the red arrow means something, how is the player position relevant then?

Maybe you could explain what you're trying to achieve with this?

[spare dome]

The red line is the current direction, I'm trying to make a dynamic cover finder by getting the direction from an enemy to the player (which being the red line) then making vector3's with an offset from the player in the direction of the current direction then shooting raycast's from them to the closest object then getting all of the normal's on them that match the closest direction compared to the current direction (the red line).

then pathfinding the current "player" to one of the normal's by a random decision (I will make another position/vector3 from the selected normal)

[leaden ice]

ok so that sounds like two different problems:

1. Identify all cover that is hidden from the enemy
2. filter out to only covers that are further away from the enemy than the player is

I would say focus on only one of those at a time

Are all the squares always lined up perfectly in terms of rotation like this?

[spare dome]

currently my level has squares with no rotation but I would like some custom shapes if possible, I'm just trying to make this as simple as possible to implement so I can change things if needed

to find all of the cover hidden from the enemy I would need to find a way to get all of the normals of an object then iterate through them

[leaden ice]

The brute force solution here is to basically have every "Cover" in a list, along with their normal vectors.

Then you just loop through all the Covers and check which ones have normal vectors aligned with the red arrow (using the dot product)

If they're just squares, the normals are trivial to calculate

[spare dome]

for simplicity could I just keep them as squares then just calculate the angle between their normal's direction to the direction of the vector then just see if they fall under a certain threshold?

[leaden ice]

lets say you define the normals as those blue lines in your diagram. Then to see if the cover is valid you would do:

float dot = Vector3.Dot(blueArrow, redArrow);
bool coverIsSafe = dot > 0;```

the dot product will return negative values when the two directions are "oppositish" and positive when they are "sameish"

[heady iris]

Make sure the vectors are both normalized for optimal results

It doesn't matter in this specific case, since you're comparing to zero

if both input vectors have a magnitude of 2, the result will be -4 to 4

The dot product is super useful for any situation where you need to know how "lined up" things rae

see also: Vector3.Angle or Vector3.SignedAngle

[spare dome]

I see, that would be good

[spare dome]

ah ok, useful stuff

[heady iris]

The latter takes an axis that the angle is figured relative to

which allows it to be positive or negative

Vector3.Angle is just Mathf.Acos(Vector3.Dot(a.normalized, b.normalized))

(the dot product is the cosine of the angle times the magnitudes of the two vectors!)

please don't send us a video of your code

you can share the script with !Code

[tawny elk]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[heady iris]

gdl.space broke, so use another site

[leaden shoal]

ok sorry

[heady iris]

Also, if you want to get nice recordings of your game, there's a Recorder package for that (:

it's very handy

(can look at that later)

[leaden shoal]

okay

so i was saying

im trying to make a player cam follow script but it wont work , and if i changed the off set Y to 2 the player just fly :

using UnityEngine;

public class CameraFollow : MonoBehaviour
{
    public Transform player;  // Référence au joueur
    public float smoothSpeed = 0.125f;  // Vitesse de transition de la caméra
    public Vector3 offset;  // Décalage de la caméra par rapport au joueur

    void LateUpdate()
    {
        // Calculer la position souhaitée
        Vector3 desiredPosition = player.position + offset;

        // Smooth déplacer la caméra vers la position souhaitée
        Vector3 smoothedPosition = Vector3.Lerp(transform.position, desiredPosition, smoothSpeed);

        // Appliquer la nouvelle position à la caméra
        transform.position = new Vector3(smoothedPosition.x, smoothedPosition.y, transform.position.z);
    }
}

fuck idk how to make it darker

ping me if respond

[rigid island]

!code

[tawny elk]

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[heady iris]

Wrap the code in three backticks, like this:

```cs
void Whatever() {

}
```

Adding the "cs" to the first line gives it nice colors

[leaden shoal]

okay wait

[rigid island]

but you can just use cinemachine here tbh.

[leaden shoal]

idk what is this but thx

[rigid island]

its easy to look it up , its so you don't have to reinvent the wheel
https://unity.com/features/cinemachine

doe smoothing and all that for you , no need to manually lerp or anything

[leaden shoal]

okay idk how to use it but thx very much

[rigid island]

its very simple, you just add a new virtual camera and set the follow target. The link i sent has tutorials on each component / follow mode you can use

[leaden shoal]

okay , i didnt see anything but thx

nah im just stupid

i didnt click the link

[leaden shoal]

but is this a ''addon'' or is this on unity by default?

nah i found

[rigid island]

its a package you download from unity package manager

[leaden shoal]

yeah i saw my bad

[leaden shoal]

one last question , how do i make that the cam doesnt have lag and is center to the player ?

couldnt find it

in the manual

[rigid island]

wdym lag? probably you mean the Damping ?

and its usually centered to the pivot, so whereever your pivot is

[leaden shoal]

idk what is damping but like its follow behind the player , with latency

[leaden shoal]

okay

[rigid island]

lower the damping values

[leaden shoal]

wut is damping ?

[sonic warren]

does anyone know solutions to this common issue

i have some physics objects and queries based from my player, and i want to basically have them only ignore the player collider but none else

specifically it is some physics2d-enabled particlesystems, and ray cast 2d

i wanna avoid having a different layer for just the player's character and not the other players' characters

would like to see other peoples approaches to this

[leaden ice]

Just temporarily change your object's layer while you do the raycast

then set it back

[sonic warren]

what about particles and stuff though

[leaden ice]

what about them

that has nothing to do with the raycast question

[sonic warren]

i have at the moment just put the particles clear of the player but it would be good to have them coming more from the player instead without a gap

the particles use physics to bounce of the environment and other players

[leaden ice]

Again what does this have to do with the raycast part

focus on one thing at a time

[sonic warren]

for raycast that would work but how could i have particles and stuff ignore just the player collider

[leaden ice]

Use https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Physics2D.IgnoreCollision.html

[sonic warren]

oO i didnt know that function thank you

[spare dome]

you are an absolute mad lad, I made a prototype (using the example you gave) to find the normal's that are safe which works well https://hatebin.com/qpfuvpcugf. thanks for guiding me in the right direction

[rigid island]

from the docs for example
X Damping How responsively the camera tries to maintain the offset in the x-axis. Small numbers make the camera more responsive. Larger numbers make the camera respond more slowly.

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cinemachine@2.4/manual/CinemachineBodyTransposer.html

[leaden shoal]

ho okay thanks

[sonic warren]

ok the ignoreCollision doesnt exactly support particle generated colliders, but i decided to just have the effects ignore players and only work with the environment

so i can still get the thruster particles splaying out over objects like the asteroids but they just pass over other ships

[still lagoon]

I'm struggling to understand the benefit of the S in SOLID (SRP), does anyone have some good examples/resources on this?

[heady iris]

The single responsibility principle prevents unnecessary coupling

hang on

cat

[leaden ice]

The benefit is that when you want to change something, there is one and only one place to make the change

It reduces programming errors and mental load.

[still lagoon]

I get that, but stuff like splitting a Die() method from a script that handles taking damage, or splitting health from taking damage seems super counter-intuitive for me

[heady iris]

well, I wouldn't necessarily decouple those -- but let's think about that example

What if I want to implement a target dummy?

It shouldn't be able to die, but it should be able to take damage

I guess you can just give it 99999999999999 hp or something like that

[still lagoon]

In that case you would be using interfaces ( IDie ) etc and inheritance right?

[heady iris]

My own ideal is to avoid having code that only some instances of the class will ever actually use.

If every entity in my game can take damage, then taking damage belongs on the entity class

[somber nacelle]

I'd argue that you should separate the responsibility of death from the health. the health could do something like raise an event when something would die, but shouldn't be handling the death itself

[heady iris]

But if that's not the case, then it belongs somewhere else

[still lagoon]

Sure but if the whole point of SOLID is the what if... then... what if in the future you wanted a target dummy that can't take damage?

[sonic warren]

from my experience i use a health script in itself, which simply offloads logic through UnityEvents, and passing a hit struct thgrough that event

[still lagoon]

at least that's how I'm understanding it currently

[sonic warren]

eg OnDie, OnHit, OnHeal

when you die the logic is attached from other scripts to that event

that way its nice and reusable even though things die in different ways, like a player might have death animation, a wood crate may spawn some physics debri

but all can use same script

[still lagoon]

that's an interesting way of going about it - I haven't gotten to play around with UnityEvents yet but I should probably look into those

[sonic warren]

my health hit info (passed when attacking a instance of health) passes a damage type and health can have multipliers per type or overall, so...

[sonic warren]

for this case you could have the same effect of hitting a target dummy with health, but having a 0x multiplier would make it not take damage

i am no authority ive never made a game, i just play around with unity for fun over the last 5 years, but heres a recent character i did for a school project which i think (smart people tell me if im wrong) demonstrates Single Responsibility:

the lower ones are a bit of a mess added last minute from aanother dev but the top ones are my scripts made to be generic

heres that health script inspector if u wanna see

[still lagoon]

I'm struggling to see the benefit of these being independent classes. I get dependency injection... but that seems to me where that ends? Like once you follow dependency injection does it matter if you change any part of the code?

[sonic warren]

what is dependency injection

[still lagoon]

the D in SOLID

[sonic warren]

oO

i dont remember by names but i probably know what it is if u explain it

[still lagoon]

from my understanding a method/class not caring about the specific thing passed into it

[sonic warren]

oh yeah

[still lagoon]

like when you have a Enemy class, and Skeleton and Zombie inheriting from it

[sonic warren]

and functions acting on enemies can work for ALL enemies ay

[still lagoon]

or maybe that isnt it idk this whole SOLID thing is making me feel dumb

[still lagoon]

yes i think at least thats what DIP was

[sonic warren]

like this i have my 'mortals' on one layer, anything mortal can work for all mortals, eg the sword can damage anything (assuming its on the different team)

[still lagoon]

also like your profile picture and name it makes me look insane XD

[sonic warren]

hahaha

[somber nacelle]

the D in solid is dependency inversion not dependency injection. they are quite different. dependency injection is just the practice of passing dependencies to objects instead of constructing them in the object. dependency inversion is to rely on abstractions rather than concrete implementations (so your dependency would be on something like an interface instead of a specific class)

[still lagoon]

oh yes inversion my bad, we learned about dependency injection recently and i got them mixed up

[eager tundra]

I would say not to overthink it, after all it's not even an objective concept
but it is useful to decouple your classes so that you can reduce the impact of changes

[still lagoon]

would it still work with my inheritance example?

as in Enemy parent class being passed in instead of Skeleton or Zombie

or would it only be considered dependency inversion for interfaces

[somber nacelle]

yes, that is precisely what it is for. you rely on the abstraction (like the abstract Enemy class) instead of a concrete implementation (Skeleton or Zombie)

[still lagoon]

I know but my biggest module at uni revolves around SOLID this year so there has to be something objective.... right?

[somber nacelle]

though a lot of times you'll see it more relying on interfaces rather than other object types

[sonic warren]

i dont know if this is an official "coding standard" like SOLID but i prefer in alot of cases to follow a decentralized model of composition, so like i dont just have a 'enemy script' but a series of scripts that compose the 'enemy' as a gameobject

but in this case if its like the AI of different enemies, then if they have common AI it would make sense to inherit

like what do you think a 'Skeleton' script instance actually does to the gameobject

[somber nacelle]

this is called "composition" and is a way to loosely couple your objects over inheritance which is more tightly coupled

[still lagoon]

interfaces = composition and inheritance = inheritance right?

[sonic warren]

you can still 'compose' with a centralized topology, like having a script that is the 'enemy' which then operates other scripts

like Skeleton.cs which handles / drives other scripts

but yeah i tend to prefer de-centralized composition

[still lagoon]

i know its a bit deeper than that

[sonic warren]

interfaces are inheritance too but unity as a whole is kinda built around composition, so i find myself rarely using interfaces

[somber nacelle]

interfaces are one way to implement composition, yes. but you don't have to use interfaces for composition. think of a gameobject. it is composed of multiple different components

[sonic warren]

ive maybe used an interface less than 10 times in my time with unity

[somber nacelle]

interfaces are not inheritance. though a lot of people (wrongly) treat them that way, they should not be used to inherit behavior. they should be used to ensure objects implement specific ways to interact with them, but not guarantee specific behavior

[sonic warren]

yeah ye tru

its just cos it is same syntax as inheriting a class lol, they inherit the framework but no default behaviour

[heady iris]

I wish you could do something like

public IFoo, IBar doesBoth;

give me typeclasses, dammit

[still lagoon]

would you say its fine to implement interfaces WITH inheritance? as in, Enemy base class that has IDamageable, and then Skeleton has IRangedAttack and Zombie has IMeleeAttack for example?

[eager tundra]

well, roughly? sometimes it's pretty clear that a class is doing more than it should, but not always
I think a good thought exercise would be to think about a Car implementation in a single class, then break it into reasonable parts
so for instance, if you change the brake system, it wouldn't affect the fuel system or something like that

[heady iris]

I use almost zero interfaces in my game. It's just a bunch of composition.

[eager tundra]

but there will never one "true" answer saying that you divided the parts correctly

[sonic warren]

i would suggest damagable should use a seperate script because there is usualy common / default behaviour with damageable objects

[still lagoon]

yes but in that case, if you split the functionality into methods rather than classes, don't you end up with the same result?

[eager tundra]

not really because then you most likely are going to violate the other SOLID principles

[heady iris]

I would question the logic of having IRangedAttack and IMeleeAttack in the first place

[somber nacelle]

once you've got it split up into different methods you can then split those methods off into more related classes. single responsibility principle doesn't refer to just classes. your methods should also have a single responsibility

[heady iris]

It doesn't make sense for Zombie to implement IMeleeAttack

the zombie isn't a melee attack

(Zombie shouldn't even be a class, though)

[still lagoon]

it shouldn't?

[somber nacelle]

yeah the functionality should be split into different components that are then attached to a Zombie gameobject

[heady iris]

why is Zombie so special that it's a unique kind of object?

will it ever make sense to operate only on zombies?

[somber nacelle]

and that is pretty much the basis of composition

[sonic warren]

exactly what i was saying

[heady iris]

That's a good question to ask yourself

[sonic warren]

a zombie should be the gameobject composed of generic scripts that make up a zombie

[heady iris]

Does it make sense to specifically care about this thing?

[still lagoon]

holy moly ok now youve got me reconsidering what ive been learning as a whole

[heady iris]

My game is just Entity. That's it. You're an Entity.

[still lagoon]

because skeleton and zombie classes are like the most basic inheritance example we were given

[heady iris]

Player? Entity. Monster? Entity. Door? Entity. Spectator? Entity

[sonic warren]

brothr i dont even do that lool

[heady iris]

Entity includes some basic requirements, like having a name

[somber nacelle]

it really boils down to composition vs inheritance. and especially with unity you'll really end up better off with composition because that is what the components are for

[sonic warren]

nothing on my player says its a entity or a player or anything lol its just a thing that takes input talking to a thing that gets it running around, and another script that allows combat, and then a script that lets it be damaged

[somber nacelle]

while those make a decent example of how inheritance works, in practice it's not a great actual use case for inheritance since composition would make it more open to change

[heady iris]

and an Entity has these two things:

• Brain, which makes decisions
• Locomotion, which controls the entity's position

I determined that these are worth making "special", because they have such unique roles in my game.

Everything else is a Module

[heady iris]

yeah, almost every "animal -> dog" example is a godawful use-case for inheritance

they instantly explode when you think about more than like

3 kinds of animal

It's a useful metaphor

You know, come to think of it: I use almost no inheritance, either

beyond inheriting from abstract classes and maybe subclassing those concrete classes

but even then -- I'm actively working to get rid of those

I have a unique kind of player brain for each locomotion mode. I don't like that. I have to know to switch brains out if the player's locomotion mode changes.

[somber nacelle]

I still use abstract classes quite a bit, but i rarely ever go beyond a single layer of inheritance deeper than that

[heady iris]

bingo

[sonic warren]

that top one could be considered the "brain", in this case commanding the other behaviours (like locomotion and combat) by taking user input, but could just as well replace it with some AI script to command the other behaviours

@heady iris ^

[heady iris]

If you go too far down the composition rabbit hole, you start having problems with what I'd call "fake composition"

A only makes sense with B and C

[sonic warren]

yeah its important to compose the definitive object from generic components

[heady iris]

That's kind of my brain situation. PlayerHumanoidBrain only makes sense with HumanoidLocomotion, and PlayerSpectatorBrain only makes sense with SpectatorLocomotion.

[sonic warren]

eg you take generic / reusable behaviours a b c and d, put em together to form a "skeleton" gameobject

[still lagoon]

in that case wouldn't you couple them again? but then you break SRP

[heady iris]

Not if A+B+C forms a single coherent job

you can always cut a class in half