archived-code-general

[latent latch]

Are we sure we're not talking about trying to rotate this via AngleAxis?

Rotating a quaternion directly does not define the up axis

[leaden ice]

Working for me

Oh wait

I see it when x is 90

I think you're just experiencing gimbal lock

This is the problem with the euler<>quaternion conversion and gimbal lock basically

[bitter quarry]

is there a way to represent rotation without Quaternion or to have something be converted to it?

[leaden ice]

I usually just use an empty GameObject

You can just use a Vector3 too

for euler angles

[bitter quarry]

true. looks the same in the inspector

[latent latch]

If you're doing 3D, I suggest just learning AngleAxis and running that in OnValidate

If you're running into gimble

[leaden ice]

Basically yeah the problem is the conversion from eulers -> Quaternion -> eulers that the inspector does for quaternions

Since euler angles aren't unique

[bitter quarry]

ill try to use a Vector3 and see how it goes

[latent latch]

https://hatebin.com/wpbfhbbgtq
Some rotational orderings you can play around with. The way it's done in the editor (Eulers) I believe is ZXY ordering

^ Can convert it to onvalidate but was using to automate it for some testing

[bitter quarry]

its okay, using a Vector3 and passing it into Quaternion.Euler worked

thanks for helping :>

[hardy pasture]

How to set animations on the character from C# components(2D)?

[cosmic rain]

Depends on what you're using for animations...

[hardy pasture]

It's the default Animation, Animator and Animation Clip classes

Sprite animations

But I can't find how I can switch the state from outside

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Animator.html

Like there is no function like SetState("Idle") to force the state back to idle

[hexed pecan]

There is Play tho

In the very doc you just linked

I usually use parameters and transitions though

[hardy pasture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1007043301783908402.png?size=48

Thank you

Yeah I missed it and was confused how to do it then

[hardy pasture]

I wanna do a full state machine for the character to separate the logic in different states:

https://youtu.be/RQd44qSaqww

To avoid the parameters/flags and checks hell

And just play the animation when character enters the state

[vestal arch]

wdym, there's not really a hell for that

[hexed pecan]

Are you using state machine behaviours?

[hardy pasture]

Nope

[vestal arch]

at the most direct, basic level, you could send a trigger for changing state, so you can use the animator tree to manage transitions correctly

having a state machine is a separate idea from using transitions in the animator
you can do both, one or the other, or neither

[hexed pecan]

So you have a C# statemachine? Or are you using the animator for that too

[worthy shadow]

How can I have a public property (as opposed to a field) exposed in the inspector?

[hardy pasture]

C# state machine. But I'm using a default animator.

[knotty sun]

use the [field:SerializeField] attribute

[vestal arch]

(you can ctrl+z in the message box to restore your message)

[hardy pasture]

Ah, I see: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/StateMachineBehaviours.html
So I can do things when the animation is played. Yeah, that's the main reason I wanted to make my own. But I guess I can get away by using the behaviors and use the built-in one.

[hexed pecan]

That is up to you

If the animator provides all the functionality that you need for state machine then sure

[stable geyser]

Hey all, general programming question here geared at C#. Let's say you have a base class with a virtual method that returns a bool on whether it was successful. Then I inherit from that class and override that method, using the original base method's logic, but wanting to add onto it additional failure scenarios in the override method. What is the best way to determine if the base method succeeded before I bother processing the child method's logic?

[chilly surge]

Check the return value of the base method.

[stable geyser]

Oh? Sorry how do you do that?

[vestal arch]

an if

[stable geyser]

Oh I see. if(base.Foo()) // Do something

Thank you 🙂

[broken nest]

public override bool DoTheThing()
{
bool parentDidTheThing = base.DoTheThing();
bool childDidTheThing = stuffToDo <= stuffDone;
return parentDidTheThing && childDidTheThing;
}

[vestal arch]

well, you would check for a failure in the base method before doing any of your own logic

[broken nest]

You might, if the only thing the method does is check. If you want it to do some stuff anyway, and the return whether or not it's done, you might want to run it regardless of whether the base method failed

[stable geyser]

I don't know why I was struggling with that so much lol. I feel silly now it was a rather simple and obvious solution, but for whatever reason it didn't occur to me and when I googled it people were saying it can't be done and I was like...no way

[indigo verge]

Thought for later that just struck me like lightning;

I wonder if there would be any major downsides to just... Using bones to drive animated behaviors.

Like, having a "Gun Bone" that just floats over in the corner, and when its Y Value is set to 1, a held gun fires.

Am I crazy, or is that a thing that people do

[heady iris]

This sounds like something you'd rig up in Blender

But it does not make any sense when you can just write code

If you want something to happen at a specific point in an animation, that's what animation events are for

[wheat spruce]

I love how concise you can make C#, going from

if(Input.GetMouseButton(0))
{
  if(MenuEvents.SelectedBrush == 0)
  {
    brushState = 1f;
  }
  else if(MenuEvents.SelectedBrush == 1)
  {
    brushState = -1f;
  }
}
else
{
  brushState = 0f;
}```to
```cs
float brushState = Input.GetMouseButton(0) ? (MenuEvents.SelectedBrush == 0 ? 1f : -1f) : 0f;```

I always wonder how far C# can actually be pushed to make stuff short like that

[heady iris]

You can get a little too clever..

        public override Vector3? Destination => brain.entity.TryGetPerception(target, out var perception)
            ? perception.DispersedLocation
            : null;

[wheat spruce]

oh absolutely

[heady iris]

I'm thinking about turning this back into a multi-statement property

it's a long boy

[hardy pasture]

After pushing and then cloning the project, when I open it in new place with the same editor, I get a

Assets\Scripts\CharacterMovement.cs(21,12): error CS0246: The type or namespace name 'InputActionReference' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

[heady iris]

Did the Input System package get installed?

You can check in the package manager window

[hardy pasture]

Apparently, it didn't. How do I make it get installed automatically then?

[heady iris]

What version control system are you using? Git?

[hardy pasture]

Yes

[wheat spruce]

the first thing I discovered like that, was how you can write strings like

$"The dice rolled {diceValue}, you have {goldAmount} in the bank"``` instead of the much (imo) uglier ```cs
"The dice rolled " + diceValue + ", you have " + goldAmount + " in the bank"```

[heady iris]

did you put the entire Packages folder into your .gitignore?

It sounds like the package manifest is not being version controlled

[heady iris]

Oh yeah, I love string interpolation

It's significantly tidier

$"Oh god it broke: {oopsPercentage:P0}"

[wheat spruce]

mhmm, its saved me a lot of headache over the years

it was only when I looked at a mess of "blah blah" + value + "blah" + value + "blah" + value + "blah blah blah" I was sure you could write it better

it was only when I saw some C++ code which had a very odd way of writing strings, that got me thinking

[vestal arch]

sprintf?

[heady iris]

yum

[heady iris]

Check if /Packages/manifest.json is being version controlled. If not, then you'll have problems!

If you need a good .gitignore, you can use https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/main/Unity.gitignore

[somber tapir]

Is there a way to expand a TMP_Dropdown via code?

[heady iris]

I was just digging around in the source code last night

Let's see...

[wheat spruce]

its something like "you have %x gold and %d health", x:goldValue, d:healthValue, but thats definitley incorrectly written

[vestal arch]

(format strings are pretty common, and even interpolated strings like in python or c# have format-string-like format specifiers)

yep that's a format string

[heady iris]

Here it is.

Just call Show() on it

[wheat spruce]

I think C# has a something similar where the parameters come after a string, ive never needed to write strings that way though

[heady iris]

This gets called by OnSubmit and OnPointerClick, both of which are ways to open the dropdown

[heady iris]

Yeah, you can pass it a format string and then a list of parameters

well, an array of parameters -- it uses the params keyword

[vestal arch]

char buf[51];
snprintf(buf, 50, "you have %d gold and %d health", goldValue, healthValue);

[heady iris]

mmmm, snprintf

even more letters

[wheat spruce]

whats the use case for it?

[heady iris]

You might not know the format string ahead of time

[vestal arch]

i really love/hate c's thing with method pfxs/sfxs lmao

[heady iris]

String interpolation demands that the format string be a compile-time constant

I'm pretty sure that everything compiles into a String.Format call eventually, too

[chilly surge]

Too bad we can't have https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/tutorials/interpolated-string-handler in Unity because C# 9.

[wheat spruce]

There should be a "collection of little tricks and fancy features that make life a little easier" for C#, there's a lot of little things that I've found over the years and even now I still occasionally learn something new

[hardy pasture]

I just found it, yes, it is in .gitignore. I found it on the internet and the comment says:

# The packages folder can be ignored because of Package Restore
**/[Pp]ackages/*

[heady iris]

That might be talking about NuGet packages

[hardy pasture]

What does that mean. Nuget packages restore? But how would it know which to restore?

[heady iris]

when I search up "package restore", I get lots of people talking about NuGet

which is an unrelated package manager for C# packages

I use "NuGet for Unity", so I have some assemblies in my project provided by it

I have that specific folder ignored, but not every folder named Packages

[vestal arch]

fwiw you should be using this https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/main/Unity.gitignore
which does not ignore /Packages

[heady iris]

yeag

/Packages is also where you put "embedded" packages

you can copy things out of the library's package cache to embed them in your project so you can make changes

[wheat spruce]

Whats NuGet for Unity?

I get what the name means

[heady iris]

I actually know very little about NuGet beyond using it to grab some libraries

https://github.com/GlitchEnzo/NuGetForUnity

[wheat spruce]

ooh, it runs in the editor

[heady iris]

also, one little suggestion for the .gitignore

[wheat spruce]

pretty much the same for me 😅

[heady iris]

I also include:

*mono_crash*.json
*mono_crash*.blob

.DS_Store
*.blend1
*autosave*.spp

The first two are for crash logs

and then you've got good ol' DS_Store and some autosave files

[hardy pasture]

Ok, thanks.

That should fix it

[vestal arch]

oh that's weird, i swear it used to include .DS_Store

[heady iris]

I also exclude the file that includes my steam password

[warm kite]

When I create a server build of my game, run it, then press Ctrl + C or close the console window, will Unity still perform its cleanup (like OnDestroy) like it would when I close the window in a client build?

[heady iris]

SIGINT is pretty gentle. I'd expect it to shut down normally

[leaden ice]

It should, yes.

[wet moss]

Hi, I'm new here. Where do I ask for help with writing code? There's something I need help with in my project

[leaden ice]

Here or #💻┃code-beginner

[wet moss]

Thanks

[warm kite]

Okay, thanks for the quick replies!

[heady iris]

You can double check by seeing if Application.quitting fires.

[RuntimeInitializeOnLoadMethod]
static void Test() {
  Application.quitting += () => Debug.Log("Quitting!");
}

[wet moss]

I'm currently working on my PlayerController for a 2D platformer and I'm trying to make an acceleration/deceleration movement style similar to classic Sonic. I have the acceleration part down but the tutorial I followed didn't go into deceleration. How do I show my code?

[thin aurora]

If I were you I would make it into a method since properties should not get too complex. In your case it calls a method and this is often not expected

Though you seem to override something so maybe that's not possible...

[thin aurora]

!code

[tawny elk]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[heady iris]

Calling a method in a property seems perfectly normal :p

The important thing is that it doesn't cause a change in state

That would be very surprising

[thin aurora]

Very true

Just that properties are generally not assumes to be complex in any way

Or depending on other data apart from simple data

[warm kite]

I already have some logging on cleanup so I think I'll just check the log file after I quit the program since the console window closes instantly when it's done running.

[wet moss]

Thank you! Here's the relevant code

    [SerializeField] float jumpForce;
    public float accelerationSpeed;
    float moveSpeed = 0f;
    float maxSpeed = 1000f;
    float HorizontalInput;
    Rigidbody2D rb;

void Update()
 {
     HorizontalInput = Input.GetAxis("Horizontal");
     
     if (HorizontalInput != 0f && moveSpeed <= maxSpeed) 
     {
         moveSpeed += Time.deltaTime * accelerationSpeed;
     }

     if (HorizontalInput == 0f) 
     { 
         moveSpeed = 0f;
     }
 }

 private void FixedUpdate()
 {
     rb.velocity = new Vector2(moveSpeed * HorizontalInput * Time.deltaTime, rb.velocity.y);
 }```

[robust dome]

i think AddForce should give you the movement you are looking for

[vestal arch]

if you want to decelerate at the same rate, you could just do moveSpeed -= for the opposite effect as the the acceleration

[robust dome]

although i dont´t recommend using Addforce every frame.

[vestal arch]

if you want a different rate, you could do the same with a separate coefficient

[wet moss]

I tried that, but it just kinda stores the velocity I already built up

[vestal arch]

wdym by that?

[leaden ice]

that doesn't make sense

[heady iris]

well, you wouldn't use AddForce(rb.velocity) or something

[wet moss]

let me check again

[heady iris]

You'd apply a steady amount of force in each fixed update.

[leaden ice]

one main problem you have is your code is not even differentiating between the player holding Right or Left on the keyboard or joystick

[vestal arch]

alternatively, you could achieve the effect with physics; use AddForce to apply acceleration, and then let linear drag/friction handle deceleration

[leaden ice]

it's just saying "Is horizontal input not zero? If so, accelerate to the right"

So even if you hold left here, you will go right

[vestal arch]

it's being multiplied by the input when the velocity is set

[leaden ice]

oh

that's... weird

[vestal arch]

which wouldn't work for controller input, but for button input it works even though it doesn't make sense semantically

[wet moss]

No actually, since when you hold left the value is -1

[vestal arch]

no, when you go left the value is between -1 and 0. -1 is just the maximum magnitude

[leaden ice]

Yes I understand that I just didn't see it's being included in the last line

[robust dome]

yeahi guess he is doing this so he can use it inside FixedUpdate

[heady iris]

The problem is that if you switch from left to right, you'll keep your move speed

[robust dome]

which is totally fine

[heady iris]

Consider the following

float target = maxSpeed * HorizontalInput;
float maxDelta = Time.deltaTime * accelerationSpeed
moveSpeed = Mathf.MoveTowards(moveSpeed, target, maxDelta);

[vestal arch]

instead of keeping a moveSpeed, you should keep a moveVelocity and let opposite inputs decelerate and then accelerate in the opposite direction

[heady iris]

You can also store a velocity, yes

[leaden ice]

or really just accelerate in the direction of input

which is the same

[heady iris]

(well, I'm also storing a velocity -- note how moveSpeed in my code can be both negative and positive! I'm just storing the X velocity)

[wet moss]

I tried it again, the problem is that it seems like the moveSpeed is being decreased at the same rate as it increases when the button is being held so the result is that the speed doesn't hit 0 nearly fast enough

[leaden ice]

so write some code to change that

you'll need a bunch of if statements

I will say Input.GetAxis in this kind of code is a problem, because it's adding an unaccounted-for extra layer of "acceleration" into all of this

[vestal arch]

then use a larger coefficient for decelerating

[leaden ice]

You should use GetAxisRaw

[wet moss]

Here's what I did

        
        if (HorizontalInput != 0f && moveSpeed <= maxSpeed) 
        {
            moveSpeed += Time.deltaTime * accelerationSpeed;
        }

        if (HorizontalInput == 0f) 
        {
            moveSpeed -= Time.deltaTime * (accelerationSpeed * 2.5f);
            if (moveSpeed < 0f) moveSpeed = 0f;
        }

        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.Space) && (isOnGround))
        {
            rb.AddForce(Vector2.up * jumpForce, ForceMode2D.Impulse);
        }```
Right now my character just kinda stops, no momentum is carried over

[leaden ice]

this code has nothing that actually moves the character side to side

surely you omitted something

[wet moss]

Sorry I didn't share everything

{
    rb.velocity = new Vector2(moveSpeed * HorizontalInput * Time.deltaTime, rb.velocity.y);
}```
The parts I shared previously are specifically under Update. Sorry, I'm still new to this whole code sharing thing so I didn't think those parts were relevant

[leaden ice]

Well yeah see how you're just directly feeding HorizontalInput into the velocity?

Using GetAxis was the ONLY reason you had any acceleration at all

If HorizontalInput here is 0... well you're multiplying by 0

make sense?

[vestal arch]

(uh no moveSpeed was also increasing over time before...)

[wet moss]

Yup that's still the same as before

[leaden ice]

Sorry I meant only reason there was acceleration when input was 0 before

[wet moss]

Ooooooh that makes sense yeah

Because GetAxisRaw goes directly from 0 to either 1 or -1 so now when I let go of the button the velocity just becomes 0 instantly

[leaden ice]

this all seems overcomplicated. Couldn't you just do something like

float hVel;
float maxSpeed = 5;
float accelerationSpeed = 4;

void Update() {
  float targetSpeed = Input.GetAxisRaw("Horizontal") * maxSpeed;
  hVel = Mathf.MoveTowards(hVel, targetSpeed, accelerationSpeed * Time.deltaTime);
  rb.linearVelocityX = hVel;
}```

[wet moss]

What does Mathf do? I haven't learned that yet

[leaden ice]

Mathf is a class that contains a bunch of math utility functions

it doesn't "do" anything

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Mathf.html

MoveTowards does this: https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Mathf.MoveTowards.html

[heady iris]

I use MoveTowards quite frequently

[wet moss]

I think I understand now

Thank you

[leaden ice]

the only thing left to do is vary which accelerationSPeed you feed into MoveTowards based on whether the target direction is aligned with or opposed to the current horizontal velocity

[wet moss]

That sounds easy enough

[river kelp]

Are you guys pooling your audio sources in your sound managers?

Or is the benefit miniscule compared to just making and destroying audio sources for sfx

[hexed pecan]

I recommend pooling anything that is a UnityEngine.Object and enabled/disabled frequently

[river kelp]

That does make sense I suppose. But then how do you know if a sound is finished so you can put it back in the pool?

[hexed pecan]

@river kelp The simplest way would be to make a coroutine/awaitable, but a more performant way would probably be to keep track of all the playing AudioSources in your sound manager

[river kelp]

And then intermittently check if they are still playing?

[hexed pecan]

I wish AudioSource had events like OnStop :/

[river kelp]

Or, do I even need to "return them to the pool" in that sense?

[hexed pecan]

Something like that

[river kelp]

Could I just use the isPlaying

to find the next open object in the pool?

[hexed pecan]

I haven't implemented it, just throwing ideas. I normally use FMOD

[hexed pecan]

You could yes

Using the Playables API to play audio might be something to look into 👀

[river kelp]

Hmm. I haven't looked into stuff like FMOD, how much hassle is it compared to the value?

Assuming sound is fairly important to my game, would you recommend taking the time to implement FMOD over making my own custom sound manager?

(Also, FMOD is free, right?)

[hexed pecan]

I can't really give a good comparison because I have used FMOD instead of the default audio for as long as i remember

[hexed pecan]

For indies yeah https://www.fmod.com/licensing

[hot ledge]

Currently trying to make a string for a TMP UGUI component that highlights some lines conditionally. For some reason, this spits out Input string was not in a correct format

testimonyContents += $"{(pageIndex == Convert.ToInt32(selectedPlant[4])? "<#FFFF00>" : "")}<u>{ts.speaker[pageIndex]}:</u><space=1.5em>{ts.dialogue[pageIndex]}";```

But for some reason this works fine. ```C#
testimonyContents += $"<#FFFF00><u>{ts.speaker[pageIndex]}:</u><space=1.5em>{ts.dialogue[pageIndex]}";```

[river kelp]

It does look like FMOD does a lot of what I am trying to develop myself

[hexed pecan]

I usually like to make my own systems but I haven't ran into any limitations with FMOD yet

I'd say try it out 🤷‍♂️ It's pretty intuitive especially if you have used DAWs

And you can control pretty much everything from C#

[river kelp]

I've been burned by very excessively advanced/generic asset store assets before, with lots of feature bloat etc. Do you think that applies to FMOD?

[trim schooner]

no

FMOD isn't an "asset store asset". It's a "proper" piece of middleware, with an asset store asset

[river kelp]

Yes, but that doesn't really answer my concern

[trim schooner]

it's professional middleware, it's one of the two go to sound solutions for games

[river kelp]

I guess I'll give it a shot, thanks

[leaden ice]

I guess I've never gotten far enough in sound design to mess with such things but what's the "deal" with FMOD? What does it replace exactly and why would you want/need to replace it? Does it replace AudioSource(s) entirely?

[trim schooner]

Haven't used it, same as you. Just been aware of it for years - @hexed pecan is the many to ask.

[wicked scroll]

it decouples sound design from the game itself

so you expose events and parameters and then your sound designer can react to those in fmod studio and your game uses that data to do sound stuff

[leaden ice]

So do you include stuff like listener position and sound source position in those events?

[wicked scroll]

unity's core stuff doesn't do much more than 'play this sound', but fmod has support for stuff like blending dynamic sounds based on parameters in realtime

[river kelp]

That does kind of sound like a lot of work to set up though

How easy is it to just "play sound"

[wicked scroll]

maybe if it matters? I think there are a bunch of ways to do it

it comes with some components that bridge their stuff into unity

[wicked scroll]

you can do it in one line, but yeah only once youv'e set up fmod to include that sound

that's an advantage if you have a sound designer who can be in charge of that stuff

and if you need dynamic audio

pletny of games are just playing 1) some music and 2) oneshot sound effects, so you probably don't need it

[river kelp]

Despite having no sound designer I've kind of painted myself into a position where I have to become one

[leaden ice]

Indie game devs have to wear so many hats

[wicked scroll]

but there are a lot of little things with sound design that you end up layering in, like limiting a particular sound when it's triggering too much (or replacing it with a different one), or ducking particular sounds in favor of others, etc. that it's nice to have supported already for when you need them

[river kelp]

So my choices are really code and make a sound manager myself

Or include one like FMOD. I was just dipping my toe into it when I came here for advice

[wicked scroll]

if you are just starting off, I'd just make a little class to manage sounds and let you play them

[river kelp]

No like, I was past that and just getting into the "This isn't working I need a proper sound manager" so I was just starting the code for that

[wicked scroll]

what would make it 'proper'

[river kelp]

Well now I have a bunch of components with direct references to audio clips in the prefabs and awkward code referencing one of several audio sources on each object

[wicked scroll]

you should probably centralize it

[hexed bough]

How can i increase the fps of my game for android? the fps is fine on IOS and web but on android it's very less.
its a webgl 3D game

[river kelp]

As opposed to a pooled sound manager I can ask to "PlaySoundAtLocation("thump1", transform.position)" or whatever

[hexed pecan]

One of the benefits of FMOD is not needing gameobjects to play audio

[river kelp]

Yeah that's what I was starting on

[hexed pecan]

Better performance overall afaik

[wicked scroll]

that seems fine to me for starting out

[hexed pecan]

Good UI for editing automation/modulation curves

[leaden ice]

increasing FPS is done by optimizing your game. Use the profiler and go after things that are slow/inefficient

[wicked scroll]

you'll find things that you want and over time can decide if you need something full-fledged or should just progressively add the little things you need

[river kelp]

Yeah but I already had issues with for example sound repetition / picking sounds out of a group

[leaden ice]

What's the learning curve like for FMOD

[river kelp]

Like, random footsteps type stuff

[wicked scroll]

yeah, I mean if you're already needing that, go for it

[river kelp]

This is my only hangup too really. I'm wondering if it's worth learning a full system

[wicked scroll]

but none of that is so complex that it would take long to do your own version and that would probably be valuable

[hexed bough]

I did do that. But for android it still remains the same.
Is there a way i can use the profiler on android web?

[wicked scroll]

and certainly faster than learning fmod

[wicked scroll]

not sure, I've only really dipped my toes in

[hexed pecan]

I picked it up pretty fast but I was already familiar with a lot of audio softwares

[wicked scroll]

it seems pretty easy to get started but like anything fully featured, there's a lot of stuff in there that can be overwhelming

[hexed pecan]

I still keep discovering new features tho

[river kelp]

I guess, but I'm already learning normal audio editing to do a lot of the things I was hoping Unity could do out of the box, like Unreal can.

Like layering audio reasonably

I miss the audiograph...

[hexed pecan]

This? https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.audio.dspgraph@0.1/manual/index.html

[leaden ice]

I have like a few hours experience with Audacity and some days experience with Unity's AudioMixer stuff. Am I going to be missing a ton of context that many audio software(s) have?

[west lotus]

I have more than a few hours in audacity and fmode still confuses me

[hexed pecan]

Maybe there are some terms you might not know, but the logic is pretty intuitive for me at least

You control stuff with parameters similiar to unity's animator

And any knob can be linked to a parameter or a curve

[river kelp]

How much clutter will I get in my version control? And will other developers also need it to run the game?

[hexed pecan]

I do remember getting some feedback in a school project about cluttering the project with FMOD files years ago lol

[river kelp]

Like will I need to teach my artist how to work with this too or

[hexed pecan]

But that was just my poor folder management

[hexed pecan]

Does your artist handle audio? 🤔

[river kelp]

No

I'm just wondering if he needs to install and run this to run Unity if I start using FMOD on my end

[wicked scroll]

anyone who you want to edit audio stuff will need fmod studio yeah

[river kelp]

Like, what's the requirement for other developers to run a project with FMOD in it. Maybe I'm confusing what Fmod is?

[wicked scroll]

but only sort of, they can use the existing stuff from within unity if the events are already setup

[hexed pecan]

Oh they don't need standalone FMOD just to work on the unity project

[river kelp]

So they just need the package, basically?

[hexed pecan]

You build banks out of FMOD into your assets folder

Yeah the project needs the package/plugin

[river kelp]

And FMOD comes with components for playing sound and whatnot?

So essentially for non-sound designer devs it's just a replacement set for the audiosource / audio listener type stuff

[hexed pecan]

Yes, most of the unity components have their FMOD equivalents

Although I usually just do everything from C#, except for the listener component ofc

[river kelp]

Sorry for taking up so much of your time here, you've been very helpful, but could you perhaps show me a line for what playing a simple sound effect would be like?

Using FMOD?

[hexed pecan]

RuntimeManager.PlayOneShot(eventReference, position)

Or create an instance with CreateInstance and do whatever you want with the event

[river kelp]

eventReference here being a reference to something that, on the FMOD side, plays sound?

For example a FireGun event

[wicked scroll]

the thing is, you're now working at a higher level of abstraction, so you don't 'play a sound', you 'trigger an event' which you configure a response to in fmod

[river kelp]

right

And then I configure these events and tie them to sound in FMOD studio

which creates a "bank" in my project

[wicked scroll]

in the inspector, you have components like this

and you can select the event from a dropdown cause it's linked to fmod and knows which ones you've made

[river kelp]

so I don't actually need FMOD studio to run the game

[wicked scroll]

as well as adjust parameters

no, of course not

fmod studio is a tool for making your game

once the game is compiled, none of this matters

[hexed pecan]

That would be like needing blender to run the game

[river kelp]

Sure it wasn't a question it was just like, mentally going through what I have learned

the exported "bank" in my game is why I don't need fmod studio, is what I meant

Thanks for the help guys I'll dive into this and see what I can do with it

[wheat spruce]

Is there any real harm in having a class not derive from monobehavior, when the class is still making use of the Unity namespaces?

public class RectShape
{
    (GameObject A, GameObject B) _handleObjects;
    public GameObject HandleObjectA => _handleObjects.A;
    public GameObject HandleObjectB => _handleObjects.B;

    public Vector3 HandleA_Position => _handleObjects.A.transform.position;
    public Vector3 HandleB_Position => _handleObjects.B.transform.position;

    public Vector2 Size => new(0f, 0f);
    public Vector2 Center => new(0f, 0f);

    RectShape(Vector3 a, Vector3 b)
    {
        GameObject handleA = new("HandleA");
        handleA.transform.position = a;

        GameObject handleB = new("HandleB");
        handleB.transform.position = b;
        
        _handleObjects = (handleA, handleB);
    }

    public static RectShape Construct(Vector3 a, Vector3 b)
    {
        RectShape newRectangle = new(a, b);
        return newRectangle;
    }
}```I doubt it actually matters, but still

[leaden ice]

MonoBehaviour is a very specific thing. It makes a component you can attach to GameObjects. If you're not making a Component, you don't derive from MonoBehaviour

[wheat spruce]

cool, I figured that was the case. The code runs fine, I just wasnt sure if Unity had a specific expectation with the class

[heady iris]

This is something I took a hot minute to figure out

You only care about Unity when you need Unity to do stuff for you, like letting you attach components to objects

You can do tons of stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with Unity at all

[indigo tree]

It’s fine. Just note you need to use System.Serializable if you want any of the data in the inspector.

[wheat spruce]

But its not a mono class, so it wont ever show up in the inspector anyway

components require MB dont they?,

[vestal arch]

it could as a field on an actual component

[wheat spruce]

ah, got it

[heady iris]

Indeed -- or it might show up in an asset somewhere, like a ScriptableObject-derived class

or you might want to serialize it with JsonUtility!

[wheat spruce]

This threw me when I was first getting into C# and Unity, I assumed that it was only possible to work with a project when every single thing was totally intertwined with the Unity API. I basically treated it as if Unity was the most important thing when it came to every aspect of the code

[heady iris]

Yeah.

I ascribed a lot of "magic" to Unity

e.g. when you destroy a unity object, it now equals null

but that ain't a null reference!

Unity can't somehow change the contents of your variable

[wheat spruce]

Its why its so important to learn the language before attempting to use the engine (even though thats exactly what I did 😅 )

[latent latch]

Imagine not knowing how to use constructors because you're too used to Unity's instantiation concepts

[wheat spruce]

I think that was a problem for me

I know I had a lot of trouble trying to do certain things because if unity provided a method that wasnt quite right, what else are you meant to do?

funny to think that constructors once probably felt like some really advanced and complicated thing

one "oh you can do that huh" moment was learning that youre able to put multiple classes in the same file

[heady iris]

you can also put one class in multiple files!

partial classes are a bit weird

I tried using them once because I had a horrific uber-class that was way too big

I then realized I needed to break that thing up completely

[wheat spruce]

partials seem like a great idea with a lot of uses, but in reality they arent that great and have very limited usecases when they'd be worth it

[heady iris]

I managed to chop the class into five pieces. I then had FIVE files that I couldn't find anything in!

Even worse than one file I couldn't find anything in

Now I have an Entity class and lots and lots of little modules to add features

[wheat spruce]

I think when you see that Unity always makes the file name match the class, not realising it only does that because a template file, that might be why I assumed its one file per class

its only actually specific situations where the class and file name have to match, right?

scriptable objects or something break if theres a mismatch, that sounds right

[heady iris]

They don't have to match anymore

It was a rule for a long time

However, you can't have more than one MonoBehaviour/ScriptableObject per file

Unity doesn't care about the name of the class or the contents of the file. It just knows that a component corresponds to a specific MonoScript

and MonoScript is the type of asset you get when you import a .cs file

[wheat spruce]

I wonder what they were doing for it to be a rule

[heady iris]

It does prevent a little bit of weirdness.

The "Add Component" menu uses the asset name, but the inspector uses the class name

[wheat spruce]

Yeah, especially if its one MB class per file, if the name doesnt match the class, it would suggest somethings broken

[eager tundra]

partial classes are a common trap for newcomers, usually your classes are too big because they're holding many responsibilites and turning it into multiple partials wont solve anything

they do have some pretty cool use cases though, like Unity uses for DOTS code generation

[heady iris]

yeah, they make sense for codegen

otherwise you're just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic

[wheat spruce]

partials feel like magic the first time you use them

the novelty that you can write the same class in 2 locations, without you needing to have the same code written out in both

#region is another thing that I dont actually know if its good or not

[trim schooner]

if you have a need for regions in your code, your code is probably too long and/ or poorly organised

[eager tundra]

never seen a good use case for that, it's usually either trying to hide messy code or giving you irrelevant information that could be derived from other sources

[wheat spruce]

thats a criticism ive heard a lot

[trim schooner]

The 'clean code' book says to avoid them, IIRC

[heady iris]

Yeah, that's my feeling

I have one big use for them: I put all of my debug-only stuff at the end of my classes

because I have fields that keep track of stuff like "show X in the debug overlay"

they're noisy and don't really matter anywhere else

e.g.

[little meadow]

the one true rule is that there are no strict rules 😛
so it's best to understand why something is good/bad, instead of just knowing good/bad, because bad things can be good in some cases

[wheat spruce]

my usual reason to use them is when I just want to divide stuff out into little chunks, when I dont feel the need to actually segment the code itself up.

or a constructor might go through 3 different steps, a lot of the time I'll just make 3 regions and even if they only have a few lines each, at the time it seems like a useful thing

[eager tundra]

in that case you could probably use a preprocessor directive and get conditional compilation for free

[wheat spruce]

to me, theyre more like a fancy way to comment stuff out, into a section that I can collapse

group stuff up, add a nice heading, and now I can collapse that whole group in a function and the region name itself is like a comment

[heady iris]

I still need this in the built game!

[eager tundra]

you can have custom directives though

[somber nacelle]

sure, but if you're defining symbols that will never not be defined just for organization, then you've just reinvented regions

[eager tundra]

indeed

[heady iris]

#if GAME_EXISTS

[little meadow]

the anticipation is killing me! 😄

[late lion]

I can't recall a time where I've been reading through someone else's code and been glad it has regions. It usually feels like it clashes with my own mental map of the class and hides things.

[heady iris]

I'm still struggling to lay out my larger classes

e.g. my Entity class

[late lion]

It doesn't help that Rider automatically collapses all regions by default.

[little meadow]

wait, why is Entity large?

[heady iris]

Almost all actual game logic lives outside of Entity, but there's a fair bit of bookkeeping in there

e.g.

Actually, this class isn't one that's giving me too much trouble. It's pretty clearly organized

[little meadow]

how many lines of code?

[heady iris]

700, ignoring the very verbose IMGUI-based debug view

[little meadow]

that is a bit on the high end, but hey... perhaps the splines or some other parts can be extracted to a module (or a "component" of sorts)
but some classes are just a bit larger sometimes, and splitting them doesn't really make anything better (especially splitting to partial classes 😄 )

[heady iris]

Yeah, there's very little game logic in this thing

It mostly just keeps track of the entity's modules and calls methods on them at the appropriate times

It is responsible for tracking everything the entity has perceived.

I've been pulling more and more stuff out of it. It used to control a NavMeshAgent

now i don't require an agent at all

[little meadow]

nice, small gradual improvements are ❤️

[heady iris]

I was using the navmesh for both moving around and some extra things, like finding a valid location to exist in

now that's abstracted into a Pather

...starting with NavMeshPather, of course 😉

[little meadow]

😄 👍

[heady iris]

My Player and Monster classes used to be like 2-3 thousand lines long

I have way, way more code now, but it's much more spread-out

[hexed bough]

can URP can fps drop on android?

[vagrant blade]

That question doesn't make sense. Anything can "fps drop" on Android.

The more you do, the more effort the device requires to do that thing, and if all the things combined are too much for the device, of course it will slow down.

[hexed bough]

it works fine on ios and web. but i see a lot of fps drop on android alone

that too on a bit low end device

[vagrant blade]

Well, you can only profile it to find out why

[worn oasis]

Hey guys, I have a projectile (NetObj + rigidbody + spherical trigger collider) I am spawning in the scene and using FixedUpdate I am moving it through the air to hit another gameObject (NetObj, rigidbody + box trigger collider) both extrapolate interpolation and their Collision Detection is set to Continuous Speculative. Additionally, I set the timestep to 0.1.

Despite all these changes, in some instances, both the projectile and the box do not detect the collision. What am I doing wrong and how could I fix it?

[leaden ice]

the continuous collision detection stuff generally doesn't apply to triggers

Best to do your own manual SphereCast I would think

[worn oasis]

Oof, lol, that's gna be interesting. I wonder why unity doesn't provide an out of the box solution.

Anyway, I'll ask chatgpt. Any expert pointers?

[leaden ice]

You're starting a new coroutine every frame

[somber nacelle]

mate, you've already been told not to crosspost. i also answered this nearly 20 minutes ago in #💻┃code-beginner

[leaden ice]

I thought I gave you a pointer.

Best to do your own manual SphereCast I would think

[gleaming orbit]

ooh

[gleaming orbit]

wats crosspost

[worn oasis]

Cool, I'll try that then. Thanks

[somber nacelle]

posting the same question in multiple channels

[gleaming orbit]

ooh

[lean sail]

On top of what praetor said, I dont think the interpolation mode here changes anything. The time step you set also wouldnt help if its only checking 10 times per second, and if the objects are moving decently fast

[worn oasis]

So games like Tarkov also rely on spherecast? Or would bullet sized objects require a more elaborate solution?

[leaden ice]

almost certainly yes.

[lean sail]

I havent played tarkov, usually bullets can be done with raycast or spherecast if you want to simulate an object with radius

[worn oasis]

Yes to spherecast or the elaborate solution?

[still gust]

Hey, i want to create some sort of climbing, but in a way where you can just walk along any surface, so think you can walk on floors walls ceilings and meshes but when you're in freefall you'd fall to the ground. Can anyone explain or break down what kind of steps I would need to take to accomplish this? I'm sort of stuck on how I would create this system with edge cases like sharp corners or the curved sides of a ball where a simple raycast down wouldn't really work.

[leaden ice]

spherecast

[worn oasis]

Awesome, thank you 🙏

[heady iris]

You'll want to start by making a character controller that doesn't have any hard-coded directions in it

so, for example, it should not make you fall by doing velocity.y -= Time.deltaTime * 10;

note that the built-in CharacterController component doesn't let you rotate it, which could be an obstacle

[still gust]

right now I have a state machine running the movement, for the falling state I have the character rotate to be upwards from the ground, and falling in that direction. and for the climbing I just put it into the regular movement state since thats whats happening really. I have a raycast downwards that detects the hit normal to rotate the player. But i'm not sure what to do from there and like you said I had much trouble with the charactercontroller so i ended up removing it.

[heady iris]

So you can properly move around on a plane at any orientation right now?

[still gust]

right now i have it rotating but idk how to move it tbh, my idea was to use Transform method to move it somehow according to the hit.point

[heady iris]

You can construct a rotation out of a forward vector and an up vector

var rot = Quaternion.LookRotation(player.transform.forward, hit.normal);
var worldForward = rot * Vector3.forward;

e.g.

This would misbehave if you somehow wound up aligning the player's forward vector with the normal vector of the ground

[hexed bough]

URP was the problem. works better with built in rp
are there any optimal settings for URP?

[warm badger]

Hi, how can I achieve something like the following image says?

[cosmic rain]

Project the direction AP onto the red line direction vector

[warm badger]

sorry, i couldn't understand, can you clarify a bit?....suppose p is player and it moves around the whole world...but there is a curve or path...and the green object will be clamped to that path only but will also follow the player along the path only...

[hardy pasture]

How to get game object from inside of Animator behavior script?

[west lotus]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Vector3.Project.html read the docs

[cosmic rain]

In OnStateEnter(and some other callbacks) you get the animator reference. You get the object or any of it's components from there. Check the docs.

[hardy pasture]

I did check the docs.

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Animator.html

It doesn't say anything

So where in the docs does it say how to do it?

[cosmic rain]

You're talking about the animator state machine behaviour, so check it's page, instead of the animator.

[hardy pasture]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/StateMachineBehaviour.html

Doesn't say

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/StateMachineBehaviours.html

[cosmic rain]

It says it all. Have a look at the code sample on the page. And the specific methods I mentioned.

[hardy pasture]

I'm not looking for animator and its components, I'm looking for the parent game object of the animator component and the components of that game object.

I know I can do animator.GetComponent but I want to find the parent game object of the animator and it doesn't say how to that in any of the pages that you said it does.

[cosmic rain]

You can get the parent via the transform.

[cosmic rain]

Because it's not related to animator at all. You can get the parent of the GameObject via the transform component. It's responsible for the object position in the hierarchy.

[hardy pasture]

Have a look at the code sample on the page

using UnityEngine;

public class AttackBehaviour : StateMachineBehaviour
{
    public GameObject particle;
    public float radius;
    public float power;

    protected GameObject clone;

    override public void OnStateEnter(Animator animator, AnimatorStateInfo stateInfo, int layerIndex)
    {
        clone = Instantiate(particle, animator.rootPosition, Quaternion.identity) as GameObject;
        Rigidbody rb = clone.GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
        rb.AddExplosionForce(power, animator.rootPosition, radius, 3.0f);
    }

    override public void OnStateExit(Animator animator, AnimatorStateInfo stateInfo, int layerIndex)
    {
        Destroy(clone);
    }

    override public void OnStateUpdate(Animator animator, AnimatorStateInfo stateInfo, int layerIndex)
    {
        Debug.Log("On Attack Update ");
    }

    override public void OnStateMove(Animator animator, AnimatorStateInfo stateInfo, int layerIndex)
    {
        Debug.Log("On Attack Move ");
    }

    override public void OnStateIK(Animator animator, AnimatorStateInfo stateInfo, int layerIndex)
    {
        Debug.Log("On Attack IK ");
    }
}

The code example shows how it creates a new game objects and gets its' component but doesn't show how to get the parent game object of the animator and then its' components.

[cosmic rain]

It does show you that you can get the animator. An animator is a component, and as any component it has references to the GameObject and it's transform.

Look at the inherited properties of the Animator class

Then, there's also GetCompinentInParent, so you can make it just animator.GetComponentInParent<Type>()

Check the docs. It's all in there.

[hardy pasture]

Thanks, yeah I checked the docs before asking here and scrolled through the properties and methods but missed it.

I also googled on how to do it and found multiple threads on the forum without an actual answer.

The closest thing that was recommended was animator.GetComponent but I doubt it gets the components on the parent game object, more like attached components to the animator.

[cosmic rain]

As I said earlier. It's a pretty basic thing and largely unrelated to animator in a any way.
You can get a parent from a component with component.transform.parent and then use get component on it. This is pretty much just working with gameObjects and components basics.

[hardy pasture]

What about just animator.gameObject?

[cosmic rain]

That's the GameObject the animator is attached to, not it's parent.

[hardy pasture]

Yeah, that's what I want: to get the game object of the mono behavior and the animator.
So like Animator is a component on a game object, and so I want to get the game object.

[warm badger]

what you said did the job...but still one problem remains, the square in the vid is the player and the sphere is the objects that will follow...the object to follow is moving along the direction but still not aligning to the player

[cosmic rain]

Not sure what you mean by that. How is it supposed to "align" with the player?

[warm badger]

i mean along the x axis

[hardy pasture]

So what's the difference between the parent and the object it is attached to?
I want to get the game object Animator is animating.

[warm badger]

actually i will make a path for a audiosource to follow along the river while keeping the player aligned on the specified path...for example, the sphere should be in the red dot

[hexed pecan]

The terms "parent"/"child" are used to describe relationships of Transforms (or GameObjects).
In this case you don't want the parent, you want GameObject that owns the animator component

I.e. the gameobject that the component is attached to

[cosmic rain]

Might want to go over the basics of what gameObjects and components are and the relationship between them.

[cosmic rain]

I'm still not sure what you mean. Is the green line - the path that you want the ball to follow along? Or the blue one?

Ah

I looked at the video again. Okay. I get the issue I think. So the ball needs to be on the same y position(in screen space) as the cube?

[warm badger]

yeah yeah something like that

[hexed pecan]

Ok it took me a moment but figured it out

Red = A, Green = B, Blue = C, White = Result

This works:```cs
Vector3 ProjectAndKeepY(Vector3 a, Vector3 b, Vector3 c)
{
var ac = c - a;
var ab = b - a;

    var yAB = b.y - a.y;
    var yAC = c.y - a.y;

    // Percentage along Y
    float t = yAC / yAB;
    return Vector3.Lerp(a, b, t); 
}```

You calculate the percentage that C lies between A and B, but only on the Y axis

Then you use that percentage to lerp between A and B

There's your result

To clarify - A & B are the line points and C is the position you want to snap to the line

[warm badger]

Thanks you so much man....this base will help me a lot

[slim trail]

hello

someone know why I don't see anything on my inspector

[cosmic rain]

What's the last thing that you selected?

[slim trail]

oh

I just reloaded project and it works

[strong night]

Hey there! I'm trying to implement changing map in my game and I think unity is taking the piss at this point.

I have a bunch of objects on my map and what I want to do it first move the objects parent into a _toDestroy variable and rename it to "ToDestroy" And then reset the _objects to a new "Objects" Gameobject to get the new sets of objects:

private GameObject _objects;
        private GameObject _toDestroy;
        private Dictionary<string, GameObject> _objectsDict;
        
        public void ResetObjects()
        {
            
            _objectsDict = new Dictionary<string, GameObject>();
            
            if (_objects != null)
            {
                Debug.Log("Reset");
                _toDestroy = _objects;
                _toDestroy.name = "ToDestroy";
                _toDestroy.SetActive(false);
            }
            
            _objects = new GameObject("Objects");

        }

And then, after the map is generated, I send an event to clean up the old objects:

public void DestroyOldObjects(EventArgs args)
        {
            if (_toDestroy != null)
            {
                Debug.Log("Destroying old map");
                Destroy(_toDestroy);
                _toDestroy = null;
            }
        }

HOWEVER. Some dark magic happens here. The _toDestroy rename doesn't reflect AT ALL on the hierarchy, so does the change of active. BUT if I check using SceneManager.GetActiveScene().GetRootGameObjects() it appears and has the name.

Also the Destroy literally has no effect at all. All the objects are still on the game.

Everything is done async using CoRoutines and Events.

One thing to note is that some code is also removing the whole TileGrid and this time, the Destroy works. So the issue is really this particular GameObject....

Any idea? This is driving me crazy

[thick terrace]

are you sure it's being called on the object you expect, and not a prefab or something? try adding the object as a context param when you log the reset/destroy log messages and make sure it's highlighting the right one

[strong night]

Object is initialy create like: _objects = new GameObject("Objects");

It's used as an empty gameobject to contain all the dynamically added objects on the map.

It is not a prefab however all its children are technically instanciated prefabs. Could it explain that?

By context param, what do you mean? Just doing `Debug.Log("My object" + _toDestroy) ?

[spring basin]

@strong night does it work when you have only 2 objects?

like create the first instance -> then call ResetObjects() -> delete old instance -> and see the new instance

[strong night]

That's what's meant to happen. But I do end up with 2 Objects at the end because the actions I do on the original objects have no effect

[narrow sapphire]

besides the issue ur facing could u describe your use case a bit? this feels like a very janky way to go about things

[spring basin]

yea

[strong night]

So I'm making a 2d topdown game with random map generation and map to map travel. The idea is that when I move from 1 map to the other, I destroy everything and rebuild everything. So basically destroy the tileGrid and the objects on the map and load the new map

The tileGrid is successfuly destroyed but the objects on the map keep persisting

[narrow sapphire]

ok so

is there a reason ur not just using scenes for this?

[strong night]

That was my initial approach, changing the coordinates on my world for my player and its approximate arrival coordinates on the map itself and reload the scene to consumer those, but it was super flaky, so I thought I'd try that way

And other than the objects persisting for some dodgy reason, everything else works so it sounded like a good idea lol

[narrow sapphire]

wym flaky

scenes is definitely how I'd personally go about this I think

kind of what they're designed for

but if you're adamant doing this way

how about using prefabs instead of moving over a bunch of objects from one parent to another?

[strong night]

So the objects themselves are original prefabs (the ones in the parent)
I'm not looking into moving them, I'm hot swapping maps. So map 1 has a bunch of trees scattered around the place and map 2 will have trees to be different numbers, coordinates etc...

So when moving from map 1 to map 2, the content of map 1 needs to be wiped and leave place for map 2

But the Trees are prefabs

I might give another go at the scene as it'll probably be more robust if I get it to work. I've been doing a lot of experimenting since I tried it, so maybe it'll make more sense now to me

[narrow sapphire]

well from that description it's like a perfect usecase to just readd the scene and unload the old one

you can use a scene like a prefab of ur entire map

and just have ur random placement logic happen whenever the scene is loaded

[strong night]

Hmm interesting. Yeah I'll give it another go

[narrow sapphire]

btw if that is the case and you end up doing this way I'd just destroy every tree then instantiate a bunch of new ones

no need to do this parent swapping voodoo

more trouble than its worth I think

[strong night]

Oh but that's what I'm trying to do

I destroy the parent with all of its content

And create a new one

IT just happens that Unity isn't doing the Destroy at all

The "swapping" from Objects to ToDestroy is just to allow creating new objects under a new parent while the Destroy happens as Destroy is a bit more async

[narrow sapphire]

ah sure thought it was something else from ur original description

but i doubt the issue is like... something wrong with destroy

probably some issue with the coroutines instead

[strong night]

Maybe... I'll try the scene way so hopefully it won't be a problem I have to deal with lol

[narrow sapphire]

I definitely don't think its worth the performance of using non main thread just to destroy a bunch of stuff; especially since it sounds like something that doesn't happen very often

scene loading and unloading is 'async' so you'll get the same kind of gameplay fluidity

[strong night]

Yeah, funnily enough, most of my code was very compatible with scene loading. It works out of the box lol! Thanks for the advices 😄

[zealous lagoon]

Hello, trying to make an attribute for hiding variables based on values of other variables. It works (kind of), but it completely resets indendation, so nested properties render all the way to the left. I don't modify EditorGUI.indentLevel at all, so no idea how this happens. Any tips?

EDIT: I tried printing EditorGUI.indentLevel, it's always zero. I don't know why or how.

Okay I was able to fix it by setting the indent level myself by counting the amount of periods in the property path. Still no clue why indentLevel was zero, isn't it meant to be handled automatically by default?

[static matrix]

how can I adjust the crinkliness or seek sun of a tree from a script?

this is what the "tree" looks like, i'd like to dynamically change the crinkliness of the middle portion

[warm cosmos]

if anybody knows much about this stuff - I am rendering from a camera to a RenderTexture, which has square dimensions (see screenshot). If the camera viewport is not square, does it just try to render the maximum square size centered on the middle of the camera viewport?

I'm pretty sure this is the case... what do I want is to have a visual indication, perhaps like a red square on the camera view that outlines the part that will get rendered to the RenderTexture.

if that's possible please let me know

something like this maybe?

or maybe that's stupid and I should output the render target to a different camera..

[narrow sapphire]

Make a gizmo

There is a cube one prolly fine for 2D as well

[stone arch]

Hi, i need urgent help in building an apk for my game. please lmk if you can help <3

[warm badger]

i have a script that simply changes one color property of a shader of a referenced material...I am using addressables to load and unload one scene where the object with that material is.... suppose scene 1 holds the object with the material and scene 0 holds the script to change shader value....Now:

scenerio 1 -> changer script in scene 0 and material is referenced in that scene...scene 1 is loaded on button pressed

scenerio 2 -> changer script in scene 1 and material is referenced in that scene...scene 1 is loaded on button pressed...

in scenerio 1, shader property doesn't change, script works but shader property doesn't change...
in case of scenerio 2, shader property changes

mainly, when i reference my material in the scene where the object is, script works fine...
but when material is referenced in another scene and then the scene with the object is loaded, shader properties doesn't change...

can anyone help please?

[warm badger]

what type of help do you need?

[thin aurora]

Don't ask to ask, and use the correct channel for your question. This is a coding channel and from your message it seems like you'd want to use #📱┃mobile

[stone arch]

When I press Build, I get a quick process popup and then it closes. When I go to the folder where I built it it's empty. I tried doing a clean build too

[leaden ice]

Without you sharing specific details and specific code, it's impossible to answer this question. The exact details of:

• Which mateirals you're referencing and how
• What code you're using to change the material properties
  matter a lot

[warm badger]

does it show successfully built type msg in console?

[warm badger]

    public Material mat;
    public Color colorToSet;
    public Color colorToSet_01;

    public AssetReference sceneRef;
    public AsyncOperationHandle<SceneInstance> handle;

    void Update()
    {
        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.Q))
        {
            handle = sceneRef.LoadSceneAsync(LoadSceneMode.Additive);
        }

        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.A))
        {
            mat.SetColor("_Value", colorToSet);
            Debug.Log(mat.GetColor("_Value"));
        }
        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.S))
        {
            mat.SetColor("_Value", colorToSet_01);
            Debug.Log(mat.GetColor("_Value"));
        }
    }

[warm badger]

material is referenced via dragging it to inspector

[leaden ice]

So what makes you think this is or is not working in any given scenario?

[warm badger]

in build...sry not to mention this

[robust dome]

#🥽┃virtual-reality

Spacejocks

[weak cargo]

That channel was tucked away, I missed it, thanks @robust dome

[robust dome]

you are welcome friend

[heady iris]

I think I know what's going on here

If you have a direct reference to an asset and you also load it via Addressables, you'll wind up with two different assets in the built game

This will not happen in the editor.

[warm badger]

maybe that's why it is happening...can you tell me any way to fix that?

[heady iris]

I ran into this problem while working on my game's settings system. Each setting is a ScriptableObject asset. I was using Addressables to easily load all of them when the game started

Everything broke because the Addressable version of the assets were unrelated to the non-Addressable version

[heady iris]

Your second case works because the reference to the material is from an Addressable scene.

I think you can make the first case work if you replace the direct asset reference with one that goes through Addressables

[warm badger]

man, that hurts a lot

[heady iris]

In my case, I just stopped using Addressables -- it was basically equivalent to putting everything in a Resources folder

I was not actually using any of the system's features beyond "give me all assets!"

[heady iris]

so instead of referencing the Material directly, store an AssetReference

(I'm kind of murky on this, so maybe ask in #📦┃addressables if that doesn't fix it)

[heady iris]

Now you'll get the asset that the Addressables system knows about (which is the same asset that you'd get if you referenced the material from an Addressable scene)

As I understand it, a common pattern is to have a single non-Addressable scene whose sole job is to load up an Addressable scene

[warm badger]

thats right

one thing, how can I access the material properties when referencing that material to assetReference?

[finite olive]

does someone know if its possible to do android/pc communication over usb?

[heady iris]

You'd need to load the asset through the Addressables system. At that point, it's business as usual.

[heady iris]

This does not happen in the editor because Addressables just fetches the asset straight from the AssetDatabase, by the way

[sharp topaz]

hey i'm a level designer working on a project.... and there is something I don't understand. Dev is insisting on loading entire levels as prefabs instead of using scenes... is there... any good reason to do this? It seems like it breaks all kinds of dependancies and introduces merge issues when people update sub-components of the prefabs. But I don't know enough about code to form a counter argument, and none of them want to explain to me why they want to do it this way.

[heady iris]

Well, you'll have identical issues with scenes!

Nested prefabs should help you avoid such conflicts, though. Suppose I have this for an enemy:

• Enemy (Prefab)
  • Body
  • Weapon (Prefab)

I can change the Weapon prefab while someone else is messing with the enemy's Body object

[sharp topaz]

yeah but I mean..... the entire level is a prefab... probe data and lightmaps dont work... though we haven't decided on using that.

[heady iris]

oh yeah, that's going to be uh

💥

I've never really looked into trying to put "scene data" into prefabs like that

Cross-scene references are a bit annoying to handle, so instantiating a giant "level prefab" could be mildly more convenient

normally, you have to wait for the scene to activate, then try to find the objects you need in it

[versed loom]

why is my scale messed up after i call this function

public static void SetParentT(this Transform target, Transform parent)
        {
            var targetScale = target.localScale;
            
            target.parent = parent;
            target.localScale = targetScale;
        }```
because if i just drag it the editor as the child it works (last image)

[sharp topaz]

my barely educated guess is to allow the UI to live in a single instance and not have to hand data back and forth constantly

cause aparently thats a common frustration

but i really don't know :/

[heady iris]

I just punt my game's UI into DontDestroyOnLoad and leave it there forever

[sharp topaz]

I saw that in favor of prefabs, and memory issues as an argument against level prefabs, but the source is like... no data reddit posts

[heady iris]

In another game, I additively load a "UI scene" at game start and then never unload it

That's roughly equivalent

[heady iris]

When you switch parents, your local position, rotation, and scale will change so that the world position/rotation/scale are preserved

You're setting your local scale back to its original value

If your old parent's scale was [1,1,1] and your new parent's scale is [2,2,2], your local scale will get halved

If you then reset your local scale to its original value, your apparent size will double

[versed loom]

the object didnt have a parent, and the new parent's scale is 1,1,1,

[heady iris]

The new parent's local scale is [1,1,1]

But perhaps it has a parent of its own!

The values you see in the inspector are the local position/rotation/scale

[soft shard]

Android does not have a USB port, how exactly do you plan to establish communication this way? What problem would this kind of communication help you solve?

[deft kindle]

My script is enabled but does not work and idk why it gave me the DEBUG called LightTool script started!

https://hastebin.com/share/nurazatamu.csharp

[rigid island]

what its supposed to do? and whats happening instead

[leaden ice]

What are you expecting it to do and what is it doing instead?

[rigid island]

😮

[leaden ice]

Jinx

[deft kindle]

Its supposed to light the firework if i press mousebutton 0 and does nothing

[leaden ice]

Well first off it seems to expect you to click on something

[deft kindle]

Yes and it has a collide and the right script

[rigid island]

also i would say Debug what you hit. before hitting any if statements

[leaden ice]

So what gets logged when you click on it?

[deft kindle]

I did that also

[deft kindle]

Nothing

[leaden ice]

Then the code isn't running at all

[deft kindle]

Yea i know but script is enabled

[rigid island]

Debug.Log("Mouse click detected!"); is not working ?

you have to find out where its "failing" in your function, if its running at all

[leaden ice]

It should at least say mouse click detected

[deft kindle]

nope only debugs the start function

[deft kindle]

yea i know thats why i am very confused

[leaden ice]

Are you clicking in the game view? Or in scene view

[rigid island]

likely this is getting disabled or gameobject is at some point

[deft kindle]

Game view i am not that stupid

[leaden ice]

Also make sure the game isn't getting paused

[deft kindle]

Yea i am also doing that

[leaden ice]

Hey you never know we see everything here

[leaden ice]

Like, for example if you have Error Pause on

[deft kindle]

I dont have that because i dont get an error

[deft kindle]

Yea i have 1 year experience but have not made games for like 4-6 months so i wanted to start again

[rigid island]

is this gameobject or parent being set to not active ?

[deft kindle]

What do you mean by that?

[rigid island]

oh btw this doesn't work on unity objects Camera.main? the ?

[rigid island]

you know what a disabled gameobject is?

[deft kindle]

still it did not work before

[deft kindle]

yea its enabled

[heady iris]

specifically, it will only check if the reference is genuinely null -- it doesn't care if the object will compare equal to null (e.g. it's a destroyed unity object)

[heady iris]

Log something in the Update method. I want to see if it is running at all.

[rigid island]

ok. this is where the script is?
are you actually clicking in your game view twice to make sure you're like inside the game view?

[deft kindle]

Yes it is and yea i click in gameview like 10 times

[leaden ice]

Do other keys work

Like GetKeyDown(KeyCode.A)

[deft kindle]

Ye

[leaden ice]

So just a mouse issue?

What kind of mouse are you using

[deft kindle]

Wait update does not work in that script

[deft kindle]

No debug

[leaden ice]

Did you save your code in your editor?

And did Unity recompile

[deft kindle]

I press save every line i write

[leaden ice]

Did Unity recompile? Do you have auto refresh off?

[deft kindle]

It recompiled

[heady iris]

type some garbage into your code editor and save it. does unity produce an error?

if so, then it is, indeed, seeing your new code

[deft kindle]

Script works fine just not update

[somber nacelle]

have you tried removing the garbage on the line above Update?

[heady iris]

That means that this behaviour is getting disabled (or its object is getting deactivated).

[heady iris]

This was intentional

[somber nacelle]

ah my bad

[heady iris]

I wanted to make sure Unity was actually seeing the changes

[deft kindle]

Its on my player and i have a toolwheel script that activates the tool as its selected

[heady iris]

You can check by logging something in OnEnable or OnDisable

[deft kindle]

let me try

[deft kindle]

When i select it

it Enables and disables QUICKLY

[finite olive]

What do you mean Android does not have a USB port? I mean the type-c port thats on my phone. i want to have a server from the phone to the pc over USB.

[heady iris]

well there's your problem

[deft kindle]

yea but now idk how to fix it

[heady iris]

You must have an error in your tool-selection code

[deft kindle]

yea ik

[leaden ice]

It certainly is

That's what USB is for

Communication

[safe zinc]

Does converting ASCII fbx resources to Binary can save space? Or Unity already converts them at build time?

[heady iris]

Unity converts everything into its own internal formats as part of the import process

The file format is irrelevant

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/Manual/AssetDatabase.html

This talks about how that whole system works. Neat read.

[heady iris]

I guess the question here is "how do I do that from within Unity?"

That sounds scary

[safe zinc]

Ok, I thought you choose the type of format you compress into, like in bitmaps, but I guess it use it's own propriety format?

[heady iris]

I dunno how models work

[warm kite]

How do I remove Unity's own logging like:

No texture data is available to upload.

...from the console window in a server build?

[rigid island]

i think somewhere in project settings

Use Player Log Enable this option to write a log file with debugging information. This option is enabled by default.
https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/playersettings-windows.html

[leaden ice]

I wouldn't. I would do it in native android and use android interop stuff @finite olive.

Android USB documentation starts here https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/usb

[warm kite]

I'll have a look at that, thanks!

[warm kite]

That didn't seem to work, the log messages still appear in the log window

[rigid island]

oh maybe its some warning to disable? . would need to look into it more

[heady iris]

The log file might have a stacktrace to look at

Could help you figure out why that's getting logged, at least

[warm kite]

The log file does not have anything extra, I want to remove these:

[heady iris]

Ah, all of that stuff that falls out during startup?

I wonder if you can make the console window clear itself

I don't know of a way to suppress those logs, though.

[warm kite]

And that's because I cannot change the formatting of those log messages to have a timestamp or anything

[rigid island]

maybe something to do with command line arguments and some option to turn verbose

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/PlayerCommandLineArguments.html
check here if you can, I'm on the go and can't atm

[marsh wadi]

I tried to get instrumentation-based profiling to work with Superluminal, but after adding the Superluminal DLL and calling SuperluminalPerf.BeginEvent("foo") and .EndEvent(), they don't show up regardless

It does work when adding the superluminal DLL in a separate C# project (through nuget) whose DLL was included in unity, but this is not that useful

Did anyone get that to work?

[warm kite]

There is one called -nolog but that didn't work

[waxen burrow]

I am on a project where I need to log player position, head rotation, etc. most importantly I need to log collisions. I only want to log a collision on first contact. (Basically onColliderEnter) the issue is that our player uses a character controller and from my understanding that doesn’t pair well with a rigid body.

Will I have to maintain a hash of all the collisions?

Or is there a much better/cleaner approach

[knotty sun]

Character Controller has it's own collision event

[heady iris]

what are you thinkig of "hashing" here, exactly?

I'm confused by "maintain a hash of all the collisions"

[waxen burrow]

There could be multiple collisions at the same time, so every time charactercontrollerhit is called, it will attempt to add the object (or characteristic of it) to a hashset. If the item is already in the hash it it gets ignored, else log it. Then using ‘oncontrollerexit’, remove from hash

[leaden ice]

I would recommend using this: https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/physics/kinematic-character-controller-99131

Internally it keeps track of a thing called KinematicCharacterMotorState which I believe already has all the things you want.

[heady iris]

so one important thing to note here...

a character controller is not going to produce the normal collision events when it tries to move into a solid object

[leaden ice]

it even exposes a handy GetState() function to grab the state whenever you want.

[heady iris]

It never actually overlaps with the obstacles. That's the entire point -- it figures out a new position that's not inside of a collider

[leaden ice]

you would just need to implement Equals() and Hashcode() for the KinematicCharacterMotorState struct for it to work properly with HashSet as you desire. Your IDE can likely generate these for you automatically.

[waxen burrow]

Gotcha, I was planning on storing their names if I go that route, but thanks for the tip!

[heady iris]

If you need to keep track of which things you've hit, you'd want to keep track of a collection of Colliders

[short quiver]

I'm iterating upon a state machine, where each state subclasses CharacterState, and a CharacterStateFactory tracks all possible character states so that, when checking if a state should be updated, a given CharacterState checks some conditions and, if applicable, returns the relevant state from CharacterStateFactory . I'm doing a lot of prototyping right now, and so I'm finding it very tedious to:

• define a character class
• tell the factory about the new class
  Is there any pattern that I can use to have the factory implicitly know about all of the CharacterState classes I create?
  As I'm writing this out, I'm considering to just replace my Factory with a Dictionary managed by the Character. Upon checking for a new state, I can see if the Dictionary already contains an instance of the specified CharacterState, and if not, I can instantiate an object of the specified type and add it to the dictionary. I guess the problem with this implementation is that I can't preinitialize the states because I don't know what all of the applicable ones are, which is why it would be nice to know all of the classes beforehand.

[eager tundra]

can you share the factory code?

[modern creek]

If I'm kicking off an animation with SetTrigger(string id) .. is there an easy way to yield in a coroutine until that state is complete? Or is there maybe an easier way to embed an animation in a coroutine?

[heady iris]

you could use a StateMachineBehaviour here

that lets you run code in response to a state entering or exiting

it's a little awkward because this is on the animator controller asset, so it can't reference objects in your prefab or in the scene

[modern creek]

hm.. digging into the docs

Animator doesn't have an exposed state machine..?

[eager tundra]

I've used this code a while ago, you can probably adjust it slightly if you need use a trigger instead of state name or evaluate the duration of a different layer

    public static IEnumerator PlayAndAndWait (this Animator animator, string stateName)
    {
        animator.Play(stateName);
        yield return null;
        yield return new WaitForSeconds(animator.GetClipDuration(
        yield return null;
    }

    public static float GetClipDuration (this Animator animator, int layerIndex)
    {
        AnimatorClipInfo[] currentClipInfo = animator.GetCurrentAnimatorClipInfo(layerIndex);

        if (currentClipInfo.Length == 0)
        {
            Debug.LogError($"Animator is not playing! {animator.gameObject.name}");
            return 0;
        }

        AnimationClip currentClip = currentClipInfo[0].clip;

        return currentClip.length;
    }

[modern creek]

I could do something janky like while (animator.state != "myTriggerAnimationName") but seems bad?

[eager tundra]

that also works

[modern creek]

hm, that's .. better, perhaps

Just skimming the docs of Animator, I'm surprised there isn't a play animation (as a coroutine)

[eager tundra]

it's probably better because you're avoiding the WaitForSeconds allocation, depending on the frequency that it's going to be called

but unfortunately the animator API sucks

[modern creek]

I don't care about that :p

can you only get the clip info if it's currently playing? I'm also worried if the animation doesn't start on the same frame as I set the trigger - I don't know when animations start when you set trigger

(in update)

[heady iris]

you could use this to set a field back to false upon exiting a state

[modern creek]

I wanna KISS - I pretty much just wanna be able to do something like:

        public IEnumerator InteractCoroutine(Vector3 target, Action interactDoneCallback)
        {
            EntityMesh.transform.LookAt(target);
            EntityAnimator.SetTrigger("Interact");
            yield return null; // pause until animation is done here
            interactDoneCallback?.Invoke();
        }

ideally something that's one line on that yield would be great

[eager tundra]

I've added a yield return null before actually waiting for the clip duration there

it's pretty old code, but I think it was necessary for the animation to properly start

[modern creek]

oh, to ensure the trigger is consumed and the clip[0] is the correct clip?

[eager tundra]

most likely yes

[heady iris]

i presume it has to wait until the animation update (which occurs after the Update loop)

[eager tundra]

just saw that the code is not even compiling 😂 sorry about that

[modern creek]

yeah - i'd have to dig through the docs but i imagine setting the trigger in update might not put the animation into that state immediately - maybe next frame, maybe later in the frame's lifecycle, etc

[eager tundra]

shouldn't be too hard to fix

[heady iris]

use a StateMachineBehaviour. it does exactly what you want here -- although you will have to set one up for each animation state you're interested in the entering and exiting of

I'd have to fuss around to make an example because I don't use Mecanim very much in actual game dev -- just for VRChat nonsense 😛

[modern creek]

i still have to tie the animations to those states manually, right?

I also don't know exactly how clips blend and how that'd affect it all.. like during a clip blend, which animation is considered playing (probably the "before" animation? guessing before looking)

[heady iris]

This would not have anything to do with the actual animation clips -- or, more generally, motions

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/StateMachineBehaviour.html

[modern creek]

Yeah, I'm reading it.. I don't see how I'd tie an FSM to the animator easily though?

Like.. if I'm understanding this right, I'm going to need to listen to what clip is currently playing in Update, and if it's different than the FSM thinks, change the state? (and subscribe externally to whatever I need - OnStateExit probably?)

[heady iris]

You would add a StateMachineBehaviour to whatever states are entered when you set the "Interact" trigger. They'd raise an event in OnStateExit.

public class NotifyOnExit : StateMachineBehaviour {
    [SerializeField] private string label;
    public event System.Action<string> OnExit;

    override public void OnStateExit(Animator animator, AnimatorStateInfo stateInfo, int layerIndex)
    {
        OnExit?.Invoke(label);
    }
}

A lot like animation events, but it's dealing with an animation state, rather than a specific animation clip.

You could subscribe to all of these pretty easily:

foreach (var notify in animator.GetBehaviours<NotifyOnExit>()) {
    notify.OnExit += HandleExit;
}

where HandleExit takes a string and decides what to do based on that

[modern creek]

        public IEnumerator InteractCoroutine(Vector3 target, Action interactDoneCallback)
        {
            EntityMesh.transform.LookAt(target);
            EntityAnimator.SetTrigger("Interact");
            yield return null;
            AnimatorClipInfo[] _clipInfo = EntityAnimator.GetCurrentAnimatorClipInfo(0);
            float currentLength = _clipInfo[0].clip.length;
            yield return new WaitForSeconds(currentLength);
            interactDoneCallback?.Invoke();
        }

this is where I'm at now.. seems fine?

[heady iris]

So, if you configured your interaction animations to all send a message named "Interact Over", you could respond to that

[modern creek]

I'm not sure I need all the FSM stuff since I compose my animations through coroutines currently

(ie, I don't need to create "starts" and subscribes to "ends")

[heady iris]

this would misbehave if the animation state got exited early or if the speed of the animation state was anything other than the default. it also only works if the state is on the base layer

if something prevents the animation state from ever entering, this will erroneously decide that the interaction completed properly anyway, too

(after a time period that depends on what state you happen to be in)

[modern creek]

Yeah, understood

[heady iris]

So it'll mostly work

[modern creek]

This works pretty well as a quick and dirty solution for me - the story beat here is hard coded so there's nothing else going on in the game

the "interact" animation is that mouse doing the hand plant and looking around.. then i return control to the camera which unzooms

[leaden ice]

The state machine behavior callbacks give you a reference to the Animator component in the scene

[modern creek]

hm.. i have a reference to the renderers (and animators attached to them) in another way, but .. I don't know if I like how my objects are composed currently

[rigid island]

this is coming out nice

[modern creek]

thanks.. lots to do still (as always)

the end result of stuffing the clip "wait" in the renderer coroutine is that I can compose this shot with code like this:

        private IEnumerator Story1BBeatCoroutine(Action callback)
        {
            // Save zoom clicks
            _zoomClicksDuringSpecialAnimation = _currentZoomClicks;
            // Track target
            OnTrackTargetRequested(InterfaceManager.CommanderRenderer.gameObject);
            // Zoom
            _currentZoomClicks = 0f;
            yield return new WaitForSeconds(CameraZoomTime);
            // Small pause before animation
            yield return new WaitForSeconds(0.25f);
            yield return InterfaceManager.CommanderRenderer.InteractCoroutine(InterfaceManager.LookAtCameraVector, null);
            // Zoom out
            _currentZoomClicks = _zoomClicksDuringSpecialAnimation;
            yield return new WaitForSeconds(CameraZoomTime);
            callback?.Invoke();
        }

instead of setting a callback on the renderer's state change back to idle (then continuing)

I don't like how that kind of code (embedded lambdas) looks.. just a personal preference

blahblahblah.OnStateExit = () => {
  blahblahblah.DoMoreStuff();
};

or whatever the syntax is.. I just sorta hate it :p

[latent latch]

Feels like something the animator timeline would be good for, no?

[heady iris]

You can also provide a named function if you want

Of course, this could also just be a place to use animation events

[modern creek]

yeah, I dabbled a little bit with timeline but .. it didn't play nicely with cinemachine for what I'm doing

I really have the camera movement/ui dialed in how I want it.. I did some timeline prototypes but it didn't feel great

I might still come back to it for some shots that need more .. uh.. moving parts. Doing it in code isn't great, but it's good enough for now, and allows me to maybe embed "story beat" camera shots and pauses into configuration content

[lucid brook]

Does anyone know why my look sensitivity increases with lower frames rates. I used Deltatime but that didn't seem to fix it at least not when I'm using a mouse. on a controller it works as you would expect.

using UnityEngine;
using UnityEngine.InputSystem;

public class PlayerLook : MonoBehaviour
{
    [SerializeField] private InputActionReference look = null;
    private Vector2 lookInputValue;

    [SerializeField] private float mouseSensitivity = 25f;
    [SerializeField] private float controllerSensitivity = 200f;
    private float xRotation;
    private Transform playerBody;

    private void Awake()
    {
        playerBody = this.transform.parent;

        Cursor.lockState = CursorLockMode.Locked;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        lookInputValue = look.action.ReadValue<Vector2>();

        float sensitivity;

        if (ActiveDeviceManager.instance.activeDevice == ActiveDeviceManager.ActiveDevice.MouseKeyboard)
            sensitivity = mouseSensitivity;
        else
            sensitivity = controllerSensitivity;

        float lookX = lookInputValue.x * sensitivity * Time.deltaTime;
        float lookY = lookInputValue.y * sensitivity * Time.deltaTime;

        xRotation -= lookY;
        xRotation = Mathf.Clamp(xRotation, -90f, 90f);

        this.transform.localRotation = Quaternion.Euler(xRotation, 0, 0) ;
        playerBody.Rotate(Vector3.up * lookX);
    }
}

[somber nacelle]

https://unity.huh.how/mouse-input-and-deltatime

[ivory smelt]

what the hell is this sorcery

[cosmic rain]

File access error. That's what you get for putting your projects in sensitive directories, like users.

Move it to the disk root or somewhere near it and try again.

[ivory smelt]

been working like that my whole life, I think its because I had to restart my pc b4 and the project was booting up

but lemme try

never fucking mind, somehow it was a command line argument specifying port and ip 😐

it worked an hour ago tho

thanks anyways 👍

no clue how that worked

[lucid brook]

That... makes a lot of sense lol, thank you.

Only thing is not my mouseSensitivity is at like 0.1 and my controllerSensitivity still at 200 for similar feel on both but that's not really an issue lol

[frigid laurel]

hey guys im having so much trouble trying to setup a project for Unity ML

[somber nacelle]

#1202574086115557446

Also !ask

[tawny elk]

:thinking: Asking Questions

:mag: Search the internet for your question!
:book: Use the API Scripting Reference and User Manual and this troubleshooting site for commonly posted issues.
:wrench: Attempt to debug your issue.
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[frigid laurel]

the channel is basically dead thought i would get better odds of someone helping out here 😭

[somber nacelle]

you'd have better odds of someone helping if you post your question in the correct channel and with some actual details

[frigid laurel]

my bad boss

[outer otter]

is there a way to debug code that fails 1/5 times testing the same thing? fsr Im saving data to a file: a string, vector3, and another string using JSON. It saves just fine, so far ive been able to save the file successfully 100%, and debug it to know the transform is being applied. yet the objects still get instantiated at 0,0,0 some times. Also, im not sure if it also deals with the weird place issue. ill post a vid and code

nvmd i cant even send a 20 second vid in 480

[cosmic rain]

Adding more debugs and trying to reproduce the issue. Then looking through the logs to see where it went wrong.

[outer otter]

heres a really close snippit

[cosmic rain]

Conditional breakpoints are also an option.

[heady iris]

Are you using Rigidbodies with interpolation enabled?

[outer otter]

the debug you see there is the actual game object data, not the serialized class data, so i dont know wtf is happenin

yes

that shouldnt reset the objects location tho right?

[heady iris]

Set Rigidbody.position, not just the transform's position

[outer otter]

thats a thing?

[heady iris]

When you have interpolation enabled, the Rigidbody will set the transform position every frame

This will cause it to lose whatever position you assigned

You need to directly tell the rigidbody where it needs to be

[outer otter]

that could be whats causing the other handling issue

[heady iris]

(you could also set the transform's position as well, so that it's immediately in the right spot)

[outer otter]

is that in the fixedupdate method?

[heady iris]

You'd want to do this during instantiation

[outer otter]

i see

[heady iris]

You may need to use GetComponent to fetch the rigidbody (or add a reference to it on whatever component type you're referencing the prefab as)

public class MyPrefab : MonoBehaviour {
  public int whatever;
  public Rigidbody rb;
}

I very rarely reference prefabs as GameObject!

[cosmic rain]

Technically, setting transform position, should invalidate rb interpolation imho. But the thinking is correct: there are many systems that might try to move your object if you go against them.

[outer otter]

saving and loading is real tricky, i got it setup for the most part, just these weird quirks

ill try it and report back

[heady iris]

It works fine if interpolation is disabled

Alternatively, you can call Physics.SyncTransforms() after instantiation. This is necessary if the collider needs to be in the correct location immediately

I've seen problems in the past where people instantiate and position objects, then immediately try to do a physics query

[cosmic rain]

Ah, physics queries would definitely lie in that case, yes.

[heady iris]

The physics system does immediately know about the new collider and rigidbody, but if you then set the transform's position afterwards, it won't notice that change until the next physics update

[outer otter]

so rb.position =
transform.position =
then Physics.Sync

[heady iris]

The last bit is only needed if you want the collider to be correct immediately

[outer otter]

wouldnt hurt right?

[heady iris]

If it can wait, I'd just set the two positions

[outer otter]

okay

[heady iris]

It'll be a slight performance hit, nominally

It could be a problem if you spawn tons of objects

[heady iris]

You do want both of these so that:

• The rigidbody is in the right spot
• The transform isn't in the wrong spot for one frame

I don't know exactly when the rigidbody winds up updating the transform's position, hence the second point

[outer otter]

i might have done better factoring than i thought 😮 i only had to add one line lol

lets see if it works

idk if spamming a load script has anything to do with this but there the culprit is down there

it did better this time tho i have to say

you can see its serialized data applied to the monobehavior, but the gameobjects transform gets reset somehow

another test to load, quit, load quit and it happened maybe the 3rd time again

https://paste.ofcode.org/a9cenRSa3DUhxyqUq4JFe4

[cosmic rain]

What other components are there on the object?

[outer otter]

https://paste.ofcode.org/mCcgmuUps2XqnAhidR5fc8

the pot object is the unique one, all objects that will be saved and or picked up will have these pertaining to them.

ive tried removing the handle script completely, same issue. it also does the same 'blip' when placing items. it feels like a plague, ill try and catch it one sec

[cosmic rain]

I'm not sure I understand the issue correctly. What exactly is happening in that video? And what(when/where) goes wtong

[outer otter]

the test is me picking up and placing the object, repetitively to get it in length for a video, but randomly it seems like the place transform never gets applied, but the grab handle gets nulled and the player drops it. Debug log in the dropped script would tell me if its coded to drop on purpose

but both issues seem like randomly nulled out transformations or something, that or the raycast is getting fubar'ed somehow. it just seems like timing than a written problem

i think its fixed on both ends.
TryGetComponent(out Rb rb){
rb.position

not rb.transform.position lol

[white olive]

What happens if you call GC.Collect in Unity with the parameter compacting as true? Since I read Unity's GC does not compact

[worldly hull]

how to make all existing disabled gameobjects take in this script in editor mode ?

[ExecuteInEditMode]
class temp : MonoBehaviour
{
    private void Awake()
    {
        languageChangeText script = GetComponent<languageChangeText>();

        script.FontSize = new FontSizeDictionary()
        {
            { LanguageDataScript.LanguageCodeRes.ENG, script.enFontSize },
            { LanguageDataScript.LanguageCodeRes.CHT, script.tcFontSize },
            { LanguageDataScript.LanguageCodeRes.CHS, script.scFontSize }
        };
        DestroyImmediate(this);
    }
}```

i know disabled cannot take in this script because they are not active, but i dont want to make them active either

they should be disabled in prefab mode

[vestal arch]

you could just have it grab all those gameObjects

[worldly hull]

aight

[vestal arch]

uh if they're part of prefabs just modify the prefab

oh wait the instances have different settings don't they, nvm

[worldly hull]

in fact i just think of a new way for it

[ExecuteInEditMode]
class temp : MonoBehaviour
{
    private void Awake()
    {
        class[] allValidObj = GetComponentsInChildren<class>(true);

        foreach (languageChangeText element in allValidObj)
        {
            element.FontSize = new FontSizeDictionary()
            {
                { enum.ENG, script.enFontSize },
                { enum.CHT, script.tcFontSize },
                { enum.CHS, script.scFontSize }
            };
        }
    }
}```

the root of any prefabs will always be active anyway 💩

[vestal arch]

why not use GetComponentsInChildren<languageChangeText>(true)

what's with the class there

[worldly hull]

i just used it

oh they are languageChangeText, i shorten them because its too long lol

[vestal arch]

wdym too long

oh did it hit the discord limit?

[worldly hull]

i dont want anyone feels painful lol

[vestal arch]

i mean, that's just dependant on your screen size and zoom and whether you have the member list open

i think showing the actual code would be better than... that invalid code

[worldly hull]

its damn tedious bruh

even with scripts

[last hemlock]

does anyone know of a way to "undo" StaticBatchingUtility.Combine

like i can imagine a script like, storing what the data was before combine on meshfilters and meshrenderers, and resetting that

just wondering if anyone's tried and/or know of such a script already existing someplace

[last hemlock]

my theory appears to work anyway, a little bit hard to know if i've overlooked something but it does look correct

all i had to do was cache what mesh a meshfilter had originally, and reset that when I wanted to "uncombine" something

[fair imp]

hi guys, i tried opening this project in unity 2021.3.6f1, it keeps giving me an error as shown. how do i fix this ? retry just gives the same thing, continue opens the editor but the whole map is pink and there are multiple errors

[leaden ice]

just launch it and then fix the HDRP version'

[leaden ice]

unity 2021.3.6f1
This is probably your main issue

You need to update Unity to the latest version of Unity 2021.3

That would be 2021.3.46f1

[fair imp]

okay ig ill just delete my current version and update to latest

what is the latest version

sorry havent done unity in years now

[leaden ice]

Read my message

[fair imp]

tgx

thx

[leaden ice]

Anyway it'll show up in the hub

[radiant marten]

if I have two colliders on a single object and I am trying to watch for when the player enters the only total combined collider shape(in this case like a T shape), what's the best way to handle this?

Right now I have it store the game object when OnTriggerEnter() is called and forget it when OnTriggerExit() occurs, but it still triggers sometimes when walking through the points where the two box colliders overlap

[vestal arch]

if they're for the same thing, why not use a single polygoncollider?

[heady iris]

Consider counting how many colliders you're overlapping

Add one when you enter, subtract one when you leave

[heady iris]

These are 3D colliders

You could use a mesh collider, I suppose, but you'd need to make a mesh!

[radiant marten]

Yeah, sorry I should have mentioned they are not 2d

[vestal arch]

oh whoops

nah i shouldve noticed that, mb

[heady iris]

You could also use OnTriggerStay -- set a flag to false in FixedUpdate, then set it to true if anything is overlapping

[radiant marten]

This may work so I'll try that. I've considered the mesh collider but yeah I'd have to make a mesh which isn't ideal

[hardy pasture]

Thanks. gameObject worked.

Is there a way to initialize the states in the state machine once with the owning gameObject and the components that the state will use?

This doesn't work:

    public override void OnStateMachineEnter(Animator Animator, int StateMachinePathHash) {
        base.OnStateMachineEnter(Animator, StateMachinePathHash);
        GameObject = Animator.gameObject;
        if (!GameObject)
            Debug.Log("Game Object is null!");
        CharacterComponent = GameObject.GetComponent<CharacterComponent>();
        this.RigidBody2D = GameObject.GetComponent<Rigidbody2D>();
        this.Animator = Animator;
    }

Animator.gameObject is null when it enters the state machine.

    public override void OnStateUpdate(Animator Animator, AnimatorStateInfo StateInfo, int LayerIndex) {
        CharacterComponent = Animator.gameObject.GetComponent<CharacterComponent>();
    }

This works and it will do for now, but this looks like it doesn't have good performance. I think I'll be able to move this to the OnStateEnter:

    // OnStateEnter is called when a transition starts and the state machine starts to evaluate this state
    public override void OnStateEnter(Animator Animator, AnimatorStateInfo StateInfo, int LayerIndex) {
        CharacterComponent = Animator.gameObject.GetComponent<CharacterComponent>();
    }

Which is better, but I'll still need to initialize the variables on each state enter, which is still not great for performance.

@hexed pecan can you please help if you don't mind the ping

I thought, animator's gameObject wouldn't be null when OnStateMachineEnter is called.
How do I initialize all the variables once when state machine enters?

[proud gust]

hi i have public array string, i want to pass arabic texts but when i pass string it like seperate each words and like make ewwish and not understandable. how to fix that

[heady iris]

I do not understand what the problem is. You'll need to show an example.

[proud gust]

correct word is

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله

[robust dome]

you need rtl dawood

in tmp it is an option you can enable but i don know about the inspector fields

[heady iris]

It looks like Unity 6 finally has proper RTL text support in UI Toolkit (which is the system used for the inspector, by default)

but it has to be turned on by the creator of the UI; I don't know if the inspector does that

It looks wrong when I paste that example into the inspector in my Unity 6 project. Darn.

[modern creek]

What do these errors mean?

[knotty sun]

Network error at a guess

[modern creek]

A bit of googling says it's ... something messed up with unity, cause unknown. Potentially related to cache/appdata log file size, but mine seem reasonable (a few GB). I also have the cache on a windows drive pool, so maybe something is broken under the hood there

It seems to have gone away though. 🤷‍♂️

I have a series of entities in my game that inherit from an abstract gameobject. I'd like to staple some particle effects to all the prefab entities. There's no prefab associated with the abstract GO, unfortunately. Is there a way to do this without linking each and every prefab?

IE:

public abstract class EntityRenderer : MonoBehaviour
{
  // stuff like:
  [SerializeField] private ParticleSystem CastHealParticleSystemPrefab; // x 20
}

public class ScoutRenderer : EntityRenderer { } // x 20

There's a ScoutRenderer prefab, but I have to link the scout to the heal prefab. If I have to link these all one by one, it's gonna be a pain in the butt.

[steady moat]

OnValidate ?

There is also reset

[latent latch]

Worth the time in making some prefab variants if you're going to be editing the base

[dapper schooner]

anyone have any issues with accessing the camera on an ios device? Attempting to access the camera and display is via a webtexture but just getting a black screen.

[heady iris]

The first thing that comes to mind is a permission issue

[thorny hinge]

Hi everyone!

I'm working on a 2D game with endless enemy hordes, currently capped at 200 enemies on-screen, but I plan to increase it or even remove the limit for an endless mode. I'm implementing health bars for enemies and considering using world-space canvases.

However, I'm concerned about potential performance issues with so many health bars. Are there any better alternatives to using world-space canvases to handle enemy health bars efficiently? Any ideas or suggestions would be really helpful!

[heady iris]

For huge numbers of enemies, I'd consider writing a little shader that renders a healthbar on a single quad

I did that for these meters -- not for performance's sake, but because it made it easier to get the exact look I wanted

(shh, i didn't steal these from Splinter Cell)

these are rendering with a normal Image in a Canvas, mind you

Before you do anything, though, profile it (:

compare a few things:

• Many canvases with one bar each
• One canvas with all the bars

[latent latch]

Each canvas is a drawcall so those tutorials are a meme

Most performant way is doing it single material shader using UVs to control the quad's texture gradient

or by doing it through vertex colors if you don't want to use a gradient

[modern creek]

Any time a canvas is dirtied - ie, anything on the canvas changes - the entire canvas has to be rebuilt. Normally the advice is "don't be concerned about performance optimization prematurely" but if you're using health bars and have any sort of layout managers to render them, then you're gonna be rebuilding your canvas every single frame, and this will probably be pretty expensive - enough to notice an FPS drop with very little going on.

Make each enemy have it's own canvas, so you don't have to rebuild all canvases each time anyone's health changes. Instead, the canvases for each enemy can happily redraw and not be rebuilt unless they need to.

As far as world space canvases (versus screen canvases) - it's fine. You're better off using the world space canvases so you don't have to do tricky math to convert world space coordinates to screen space coords - but be aware of z-order/ layer drawing. You'll want to ensure your canvases are in a separate (higher) layer than your game so that enemies don't cover up other enemies health bars - unless that's what you want.

[heady iris]

good point on using one big canvas

[wicked scroll]

maybe this helps
https://www.stevestreeting.com/2019/02/22/enemy-health-bars-in-1-draw-call-in-unity/

[latent latch]

Yeah that's the way, but I'm not too sure about those instancing calls for URP. I think those options are usually provided within the material itself

No wait that's correct if you're not changing the mesh data itself

[hardy pasture]

Will calling GetComponent get me the components on the gameObject?

Or on the Animator component itself?

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Component.GetComponent.html

Gets a reference to a component of type T on the same GameObject as the component specified.
I see.

Thanks, I'll just use GetComponent on the Animator.