archived-code-general

[steady moat]

It is not. You should divide your singleton in multiple part.

Ideally having a sort of ServiceLocator pattern. (It can be multiple singleton)

[warm aspen]

It basically stores game data and tells the save game class to save it to file. Why divide it?

[steady moat]

You should have a SaveManager then.

Because, you want to keep different concept at different location to reduce the overall complexity

It helps with maintanability and readability

A GameManager, should a manager that manage the game. By example the current state of the game. (In Menu vs In Level)

[kind nimbus]

Hey, im new to using unity and im trying to set up my unity project with the mirror asset added but now that ive created a script and tried to load it up too edit using visual studio i cant use the mirror reference and all the mirror references come up as incompatible

Am i just missing some extensions for visual studio or something else?

[warm aspen]

I'd rather not have multiple singleton classes

[steady moat]

You can use the ServiceLocator pattern then.

As your game grow, you will need to separate the different concept. Otherwise you gonna struggle with keeping your code tidy and simple.

[warm aspen]

I'll look into it. Thanks

[drowsy heron]

help pls

[warm aspen]

You need to add the body of the method.
Like:
{
Stuff your method does;
}

[drowsy heron]

WTF

but thanks

[warm aspen]

Ok, I don't know

[mystic ferry]

okay so let's say I want to make an inventory system by making a grid array of image components. In order to register clicks to put/take items in/out, I would simply implement the IPointerClickHandler interface, and the respective OnPointerClick method. How does the engine know when the mouse position is inside the bounds of one of the image components to call the callback? My assumption would be that pointerEventdata sends the callback function the gameobject's position and the callback does some math to determine whether the mouse position is within the bounds of the gameobject. How accurate is that?

[thick terrace]

something like that, i think most of that takes place in the EventSystem and InputModule components in your scene which call a "raycast" method to find what's beneath the cursor

[mystic ferry]

that makes a lot of sense actually. Definitely gonna look more into the event system stuff, thank you

[compact ice]

Hi guys, is it possible to see which object in scene or prefab call a method ? For example in the picture i can click on "Unity Script (2 assets references)" and it will show me which object have this class.
Is it possible to do the same but with method/function ?

[prime depot]

Screen.GetDisplayLayout is unity's method. If you want to use it somewhere,just type Screen.GetDisplayLayout(yourList);

[prime depot]

It can be something like this:
var displays = new List<DisplayInfo>();
Screen.GetDisplayLayout(displays);

[drowsy heron]

I'm trying to create a system to move the window with the keyboard similar to that game "windowframe" but I'm not succeeding at all, do you understand any of this?

[steady moat]

It is not possible to see UnityEvent or AnimationTrigger reference out of the box

That being said, the information is there at some place, so they might have some tool that is able to do that.

(As far as I know)

[halcyon radish]

Hey guys, is it normal for OnEnable to run when starting the application even if the script is disabled? I have never encounter this before until today.

[leaden ice]

Rider's Unity integration will tell you this information

not sure about VS

[leaden ice]

no, if it's disabled, OnEnable will not run

perhaps you have another instance of the script in the scene that is enabled

[halcyon radish]

I did a check of the GetInstanceID when starting the application. First the instance ID is 9935592, but on the second time it was triggered, it was -3044834. I was wondering because its negative, is there a random instance intialised somewhere.

[halcyon radish]

That was my initial though also. It it also happened with another script I have too. There is something strange going on.

[leaden ice]

that means they are different instances

the negative instance id indicates an instance in a scene created at runtime

the positive ID is an instance from an asset (such as a prefab) or in the scene at edit time (I think)

[halcyon radish]

Ahhh, I see. I guess it could be something with my donotdestroy, which I have a version that instantiates from an addressable. I'll explore that. Thanks, that makes sense.

[teal jungle]

guess what i fucking set it

  [Server]
   public void HandleMovement()
   {
       Vector3 moveDirection = Vector3.zero;

       if ((movingTo & 1) != 0) moveDirection.x -= 1; // Left
       if ((movingTo & 2) != 0) moveDirection.x += 1; // Right
       if ((movingTo & 4) != 0) moveDirection.z -= 1; // Down
       if ((movingTo & 8) != 0) moveDirection.z += 1; // Up

       moveDirection.Normalize();

       if (isSprinting)
       {
           moveDirection *= sprintMultiplier;
       }
       if(controller.stepOffset != 0.0f){
           controller.stepOffset = 0.0f;
       }
       if(controller.slopeLimit != 0.0f){
           controller.slopeLimit = 0.0f;
       }
       controller.Move(moveDirection * movementSpeed);

   }
}```
and it still fucking climbs

[halcyon radish]

@leaden ice Thank you for that explanation with the runtime difference with the instance ID. It turns out that even though the addressable trigger that I have for testing and live version for the application. Even though it doesn't actually load, for some reason it affect the DoNotDestroy GameObject. Strange. But atleast now I found the issue. Thanks again.

[digital creek]

Sorry if this is a stupid question where do I find functions in unity document or something like that

[leaden ice]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/index.html

[west sparrow]

You can edit the Unity players window bounds as well as make the menu and border transparent, but I've always done that outside of normal unity c#.

https://forum.unity.com/threads/solved-windows-transparent-window-with-opaque-contents-lwa_colorkey.323057/

See above, accessing the user.dll to resize the window.

[drowsy heron]

oh ok i'll take a look at that very thanks

[digital creek]

@leaden ice i thought it was a table

[west sparrow]

It's definitely uncharted, unsupported territory though!

[leaden ice]

I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about.

[digital creek]

Like this https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ParticleSystem.html

[leaden ice]

yes that is part of the scripting reference which I linked you above

[digital creek]

Sorry

[heady iris]

you can switch between the manual and the scripting reference for individual components

the manual talks more about what the component is for and how to interact with it in the editor

the scripting reference tells you about the class

[vapid glen]

hi guys, quick question. im using a velocity.y on a 2d rigidbody to detect that my player has stopped falling if the result is 0 or lower. and it works fine if i jump to the left. but if i jump to the right when i hit the ground i am stuck with a residual tiny hexadecimal amount of y velocity for as long as i keep walking in that direction, it goes away as soon as i stop touching the joystick. any idea what could be causing this?

[robust dome]

sounds very normal to me since you are using physics here

you can manually adjust the velocity or reset it to zero as you wish

[prime mica]

Hey guys, unsure whether this goes here or in beginner. How would I add a sin curve to a transform.up? I'm trying to create a jump function that's independent of rotation, as my character can be in many different orientations, and I am not using physics for my game. Here's the code for jump forwards as it stands. Right now all it does is move the character forwards 2 spaces. ```CS
IEnumerator JumpForwards()
{

    Vector3 oldPosition = movePoint.transform.position;

    float distFromOrigin = Vector3.Distance(transform.position, oldPosition); // get distance from centre point of the cube. old pos is set when space is pressed
                                                                              // so could be different from transform.pos

    Vector3 newPosition = movePoint.transform.position += turnPoint.transform.forward * (jumpDistance - distFromOrigin);

    float t = 0f;

    while (t <= 1)
    {

        if (ball.IsColliding)
        {
            break;
        }

        
        
        movePoint.transform.position = Vector3.Lerp(oldPosition, newPosition, t * moveSpeed);//move forwards 


        if (movePoint.transform.position == newPosition) { break; }

        t += Time.deltaTime;
        yield return new WaitForEndOfFrame();

    }

    StartCoroutine(Fall());
    yield break;
}```

I have the forwards movement, I am trying to figure out how to make it go from 0 to a set jump height back down to 0

[dense vessel]

If I understand correctly, you're looking for a math function for a jump such that f(0) = 0 and f(1) = 0 ?

But what height do you want for your jump?

I would use f(t) = -h * t * (t - 1) if h is the height of the jump.

(And by the way, a jump does not do a sin curve)

[prime mica]

where f = movePoint.transform.forward right?

[dense vessel]

f is the math function to get the height depending on t

@prime mica That's f 🙂
But I'm still not sure if I understood your question, is that what you were looking for?

[prime mica]

yeah that's it

[dense vessel]

What namespace? We can't really help you with that little information 😉

And where does it come from?
Did you create it? Is it from an asset?

That's weird 🤔
So some of the scripts in your project can access it and others can't?

[somber nacelle]

are you using assembly definitions?

[dense vessel]

On the right side of Visual Studio, you only see one assembly right?
(I had the case before where I created one by mistake 😅 And it was causing the same kind of issues )

[somber nacelle]

because if you were using assembly definitions you would need to make sure that the assembly you are working in has a reference to the assembly that namespace is defined in

[prime mica]

that's roughly what I'm looking for but X and Y could easily be X Z or Y Z or Z Y etc. it'd be easier to show you what I mean. This is what my character does in game.

crappy drawing showing what I'm needing. Sorry if it's an obvious answer but I really suck at this part of programming :l

when you see the ball slide forwards in the video, that's the "move forwards" part of my jump code

[thick terrace]

my first very lazy thought is to skip all the maths, put an AnimationCurve property on your script, and evaluate the time in the jump to get the height haha

[prime mica]

does that account for the ball's direction? I couldn't have an animation curve moving the y-axis as depending on the orientation, it could move in the wrong direction

maybe i'm not understanding it properly haha

[dire tinsel]

Can't remove ParticleSystem because CFX_AutoDestructShuriken (Script) depends on it
Does anyone knows why is this error prompting?

[somber nacelle]

because you have a component on that object that has the RequireComponent attribute requiring a ParticleSystem. so you need to remove the other component first

[dire tinsel]

if (Physics.Raycast(Playercamera.transform.position, Playercamera.transform.forward, out hit))
{
MuzzleFlashVFX.Play();
ParticleSystem impact = Instantiate(shootEffect, hit.point, Quaternion.LookRotation(hit.normal));
//Destroy(impact);

[somber nacelle]

yeah you're destroying the ParticleSystem component instead of the whole gameobject

[dire tinsel]

so what should i do?

i should paste that destry code where the object is actually being destroyed?

[somber nacelle]

no, you should destroy impact.gameObject instead of just impact since that is just a reference to the ParticleSystem component on the instantiated object

[dire tinsel]

MuzzleFlashVFX.Play();
ParticleSystem impact = Instantiate(shootEffect, hit.point, Quaternion.LookRotation(hit.normal));
Destroy(impact.gameObject);

?

@somber nacelle

[somber nacelle]

also you probably want a delay on that Destroy, unless you want to destroy the particle system in the same frame you instantiate it

[dense vessel]

Sorry I had to go.
Well then I guess you could do t * x - t * (t-1) * y ? Where x and y are the axis (so transform.forward and transform.up I guess)

[somber nacelle]

!collab 👇

[tawny elk]

📢 Collaborating and Job Posting

We do not accept job or collab posts on discord.
Please use the forums:
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[fierce spear]

ok :/

[lucid wigeon]

Does anybody also have this issue where "Extract method" in VSCode just creates a new method called "NewMethod" instead of allowing me to set a name? That's super weird...

[rigid island]

thats cause VSCode is inferior to VS so I'm not surprised that feature is half broken

[lucid wigeon]

[rigid island]

if you want to do some proper coding , consider a much better ide like Visual Studio @lucid wigeon

intellicode alone makes it worth

[lucid wigeon]

I have it... let me have another go at it...

[rigid island]

alr. many people don't turn back once they do
make sure its configured for unity if you did not do that
so you get the full benefits

!vs

[tawny elk]

Visual Studio guide

If your IDE is not underlining errors in red or autocompleting code,
please configure it using the link below:

• Visual Studio (Installed via Unity Hub)
• Visual Studio (Installed manually)

[hexed pecan]

Can't you just click on NewMethod, hit F2 and rename it?

Does visual studio automatically give you the rename prompt?

[lucid wigeon]

so apparently I have the community edition which doesn't even have CodeLens with usages of methods...

[lucid wigeon]

I can "just" even type it manually 😛 In normal IDEs that's a one step process...

[hexed pecan]

So in other IDE's it opens the rename field as soon as you extract the method?

[lucid wigeon]

in Jetbrains last time I checked that's how it works

so that you can choose a name for the new method instead of setting it to "NewMethod"

[hexed pecan]

That does make sense, never crossed my mind though

[lucid wigeon]

https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/editor/refactoring#_extract-method apparently this is how they describe it works, so maybe it's a bug if it's not just me

[hexed pecan]

Probably depends on the language. That example shows typescript or something

I use VSCode and it does not open the rename field automatically with C#.

[rigid island]

huh
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/reference/extract-method?view=vs-2022

[lucid wigeon]

? that was about code lens I mean something like this

I'll have another go at it in some time, but for now VSCode works for me, debugger works, extensions work

[rigid island]

that is codelense no?

[hexed pecan]

Yeah but looks like VSCode

[hexed pecan]

Yeah don't mind the VS fanboys hating on VSCode :)

It recently got the official extension support back

[rigid island]

I don't hate VSCode 🙂
I use to replace Notepad++
Unity extension is a step forward but its still half assed and broken. Just sucks that unity did nothing about it but microsoft had to step in and take care of bidness

[knotty sun]

Yeah, call us fanbois, VS just works and VS Code just doesn't work, no contest

[hexed pecan]

Worked fine for me 6+ years 👍

[knotty sun]

and that says exactly what for some one starting to use it now?

[hexed pecan]

Not sure what your point is

[knotty sun]

my point is you have 6+ years experience using VS Code, you cannot compare that with someone just starting out

[hexed pecan]

You said it doesn't work. I'm saying it has been working without problems for me. That's all, Steve

[rigid island]

to be fair the intellicode / is kinda dogshit on VSCode

[hexed pecan]

How so?

[knotty sun]

VS Code as is does not work for Unity development if you are a new beginner. That clear enough for you

[hexed pecan]

It's not beginner chat, and the person said they have used it without other problems than this minor one where it doesn't automatically let you rename an extracted method

Why are you talking about beginners

[mystic ferry]

where's the guy that always butts in saying rider is better than both of them

[rigid island]

just from when i tried it recently,
it doesn't work half the time for unity, doesn't autofill correctly (ie it automatically fills in the wrong things or doubles it)
I'm not trying to be arguementitive ofc we can all use whatever we prefer, just wished they made it better in that aspect

[knotty sun]

Equally why are you talking about someone with 6+ years experience using it as if everyone has thah?

[rigid island]

thats like every Rider user I know :X

[leaden ice]

it is 😆

[hexed pecan]

You're missing the point, I'm not talking about experience, I just said I didn't have any real problems with it for 6 years

[hexed pecan]

Maybe you're unlucky or I'm lucky then lol

[rigid island]

you seem the few who's lucky considering the amounts of issues from here , you know this 😛

for beginners though and unity , its not a good experience to start with

[knotty sun]

Guess what, I have VS, VS Code, Rider and other IDE's, out of preference for functionality I chose VS 90% of the time

[hexed pecan]

Yeah I would agree with that. Though Michael is already using VSCode without problems so its not relevant here

[rigid island]

fair enuf 😅

[hexed pecan]

It's been a while since I had to actually set up VSCode from the ground up

[swift falcon]

do somone know how i can change the parent of ui image trough script?

[hexed pecan]

Not sure how big of a hassle it is nowadays

[rigid island]

the new extension is a godsent tbh but its still not 1.0 and its a hit or miss for ppl to get working (eg it works on my windows, but on my mac it doesnt , same steps)

trust me I have a video on it on my YT , no bullshit 😛

its a painless process now, but it sometimes decides "fuck that I'm not recognizing the .csproj as valid ones 🙄"

[hexed pecan]

I see

[knotty sun]

transform.SetParent

[swift falcon]

thanks

[knotty sun]

google exists, you know

[swift falcon]

ok

[rigid island]

this should be in #archived-code-advanced
/jk

[swift falcon]

i will search the next time

[knotty sun]

except I'm not sure what a trough script is

[swift falcon]

but it gives me this error UnityEngine.GameObject' to 'UnityEngine.Transform

[leaden ice]

that's only a small part of the error message

[rigid island]

haha a long, narrow open container for animals to eat or drink out of.

says google

[leaden ice]

slot1.transform you mean

Transform parents have to be Transforms.

pay attention to the types involved

[rigid island]

also ur error isn't underlining u might wanna configure ur editor

!vscode

[tawny elk]

Visual Studio Code guide

If your IDE is not underlining errors in red or autocompleting code,
please configure it using the link below:

https://on.unity.com/vscode

[knotty sun]

so much for 'searching next time' look at the Transform.SetParent documentation

[empty crystal]

For some reason, the trigger here isn't detecting any collisions with the Blockhead, yet, it's detecting collisions with the player. I made sure both layers are checked in the matrix too. Anyone got any ideas?

[cyan bronze]

Guys. Interested how do people implement building mechanic where you see "Ghost" building before placing. Do people use Proxy pattern to before check every requirements and only then build real object?

[rigid island]

highly depends on the game

i make it simple and just create a placement version of whatever object with a different material / shader, then use raycasts/boxchecks and such to see if its empty spaces the size of this object

Physics.overlaps methods and allthat

[rigid island]

unlrelated but do consider using .CompareTag instead of that .Equals for the string

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Component.CompareTag.html

[rigid island]

Debug.Log(collision.gameObject.name)

find out what ur actually hitting first

[empty crystal]

Wait I see the problem now

I feel so stupid

Thanks!

(It was inside an if statement it wasn't supposed to be inside of)

[rigid island]

ah yeah was gonna say that but Idk ur game lol

could be on purpose for all i knew 😛

[mossy snow]

are you using assembly definitions?

[hexed pecan]

It does seem like an asmdef thing

[leaden ice]

The HurricaneVR.Framework almost definitely has an assembly definition

it won't be able to reference your Assembly-CSharp assembly (aka all your code)

by the way why are you modifying the HurricaneVR code? Are you sure that's necessary?

I mean exactly that

HurricaneVR has an assembly definition in it

aka it defines its own assembly that all the code lives in

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ScriptCompilationAssemblyDefinitionFiles.html

yes those are assemblies

and they are defined by the asembly definition files in the asset folder

[leaden ice]

Before we spend some time resolving this issue though... can you answer this?

why does that involve modifying the source code?

can you not simply interact with their provided API?

I mean... calling functions and such in their APi

same way you interact with any API

same way you interact with the Unity engine

you can interact with the unity engine without seeing or modifying the unity engine source code, yes?

that does not sound like something that requires modifying source code of Hurricane VR at all

[leaden ice]

also "shooting" is really something in your own code - hurricane VR is for posing and picking up object in VR right?

where are the docs for that

yeah but

[plucky cradle]

Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

[leaden ice]

they're just... obejcts you grab like any other

really?

You aren't looking very hard

https://cloudwalker2020.github.io/HurricaneVR-Docs/api/index.html

there's a whole API documentation section

the link you sent

anyway looks like they have this and you can inherit from their gun types if you want to do tings when the guns are fire:
https://cloudwalker2020.github.io/HurricaneVR-Docs/api/HurricaneVR.Framework.Weapons.Guns.HVRGunBase.html#HurricaneVR_Framework_Weapons_Guns_HVRGunBase_AfterFired

i don't really know what this question is asking tbh

it looks like they have an examples scene though: https://cloudwalker2020.github.io/HurricaneVR-Docs/manual/intro.html#examples-scene
And you can probably look at that for examples of how to do things when guns shoot, for example

but 99.999% does not require modfying the source code of the asset in any way

It looks like all the guns provide unityevents like this:
https://cloudwalker2020.github.io/HurricaneVR-Docs/api/HurricaneVR.Framework.Weapons.HVRRayCastGun.html#HurricaneVR_Framework_Weapons_HVRRayCastGun_Fired

so you can simply hook up some function on a custom script of yours to run with from that UnityEvent

Look at the inspector for one of the guns- you should see the UnityEvent there (called "Fired")

simply add your listener to that

[rancid kindle]

i need help when i try to do Destroy game object it doesnt disappear on my game veiw

[hexed pecan]

You need to show your code at least

[knotty sun]

dont cross post

[rancid kindle]

ok

and this list contains the correct game objects

[rancid kindle]

tbh im not to sure what is going wrong

[hexed pecan]

Are you sure that it is even finding those objects?

Put some Debug.Logs and find out

[rancid kindle]

ok let me show you

[hexed pecan]

Btw, ToList() is not needed here. Use the array and change .Count to .Length

[rancid kindle]

ok

[hexed pecan]

Are you doing this in edit mode perhaps? Or play mode?

[rancid kindle]

wdym edit mode

[hexed pecan]

When the game is not playing

[rancid kindle]

this is a breakpoint

no

the game is playing

AND WHEN I CLICK THIS

caps

and then this bit of code gets run

[hexed pecan]

Well, it should work, not sure what's wrong with your setup.

[heady iris]

if you click it again, do you see an empty list in that method?

[rancid kindle]

yes

it menas its deosnt acc get deleted

when u delete the parent game object does the children not delete with it?

[heady iris]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Object.Destroy.html

If obj is a GameObject, it destroys the GameObject, all its components and all transform children of the GameObject.

is anything else trying to spawn new ones?

[rancid kindle]

this is the only other peice of code that will instatiate something

but it doesnt get hit right after

let me use debug.log to check rq

no nothing but i am getting this error

[leaden ice]

show the full stack trace for this warning?

[mossy snow]

that's in his resetMap method, where he news up a NewGame before using Find

[rancid kindle]

ive fixed

it

the game abject where spawning their own object

but that object wasnt gettign destroyed

[ornate moon]

Okay, I can't google a straight answer for this. If I change a scriptable object at runtime in the editor, the changes persist until I restart the editor without saving. If the scriptable object is changed in a build it will only persist as long as the session. So, not wanting to have to build every time I want to test something, how do I stop the editor screwing up my SOs when I test?

[leaden ice]

one option is to create a copy of the SO in the editor

[heady iris]

It's actually a bit more nuanced: if you load a new scene in the editor (that doesn't reference the SO), it'll get destroyed and recreated

mutating SOs you got from assets is very weird, and I try to avoid it

[leaden ice]

e.g.

void Awake() {
  #if UNITY_EDITOR
  mySo = Instantiate(mySo);
  #endif
}```

[heady iris]

i guess it doesn't die if you stay in the same scene because, even outside of play mode, the SO is being referenced

[ornate moon]

What does Instantiate do here? I googled it and yeah, google is worthless now

[heady iris]

just...consult the unity documentation

[ornate moon]

I DID

[heady iris]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Object.Instantiate.html

[ornate moon]

Two lines

[leaden ice]

it's purple, because I have clicked that link many times

[ornate moon]

That's not the page I got

[leaden ice]

what search term did you use

[ornate moon]

I got this https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ScriptableObject.CreateInstance.html

[leaden ice]

^

[rugged dragon]

I'm having a problem with Buttons and partially transparent Sprites. I'm trying to have a clickable door on my UI canvas. I attach a button component and off we go. The problem is that no matter where I click, the button is clicked. This is because the sprite/image for this door is a full screen sprite (I don't want to place the door in the spot, I want the sprite to be full screen with transparency so the door is where it should be). I use the Image.alphaHitTestMinimumThreshold = 0.5f; line and that sort of solves it, but it moves the raycast "hitbox" to the right of the gameobject. Aka, clicking to the right of the door now clicks the button instead of clicking the door. I don't know how to solve this hitbox moving issue.

I know this has been discussed before, but I haven't been able to solve it using the research I found. Even this https://forum.unity.com/threads/image-alphahittestminimumthreshold-not-working-correctly.465586/ which apparently works but not for me.

[ornate moon]

Do I have to Instantiate mySo every time I load a new SO into it?

As in, if I set mySo = Another_SO, is mySo Another_SO or a Instantiated copy?

[heady iris]

an assignment doesn't instantiate the SO

x = y; just means that x and y reference the same thing

[ornate moon]

right, thought so

so every time I change mySo it needs to be instantized

[ember cape]

Hey there, I am unsure if this is the correct channel to ask my question in, if it's not direct me in the right channel and I shall go there.
I am new to Unity and am still learning the platform.
That being said my question is regards to Unity project structuring, now when I say structuring I don't mean the root and/or folder hierarchy, I mean scene-wise.
After doing some research and watching a few videos, I came up with this structure where the _BootLoader contains all my managers/controllers and load/unload my other scenes which can also request and pass data to the _BootLoader
Here is the structure I had in mind, the _BootLoader loads scenes additively.
Is this correct/prescribed/optimal way to structure a multi-scene project?

[heady iris]

well, if you assign an instance that's from an asset, yes

[ornate moon]

ugh yeah. Silly me thought the SO on disk would be read only.

[heady iris]

well, it is.

[hexed pecan]

It is, just not in the editor

[heady iris]

In the editor, the SO gets loaded from the asset when you load the scene

[hexed pecan]

In editor the changes persist

In build nope

[ornate moon]

yeeeeeah

[heady iris]

The scene never unloads if you keep it open in the editor

When you restart the editor, the asset gets loaded from disk again

[shell scarab]

that's similar to what I do I believe. I load my DDOLs in a bootstrap scene, go to the main menu, then from the main menu let the player click play then go into the game scene. Sometimes if a level is big enough I split the game scene into multiple, usually in somewhat of a chain.

[heady iris]

(unless you do something that would make it save the changed, like editing it in the inspector, I guess)

I tested this a few months ago because I was really damn confused

[rocky helm]

Are script properties much faster to access and change from other scripts than public variables? Not very familiar with them. In fact, just learned about their existance, but I don't quite understand it yet due to the doc being a little confusing for me.

[heady iris]

I would stop worrying about what is "fast"

[ornate moon]

I was told if you save, it'll save. And I spam Ctrl-S without thinking

[heady iris]

You need to learn how to write code first

Properties are going to be slower, though. A property is just syntactic sugar for a method.

[rocky helm]

I know how to write code, yet I am not very familiar with Unity API yet. And I do need to worry about how fast something is due to how demanding the thing is I am making

[shell scarab]

what do you mean script properties?

[leaden ice]

this is a general C# question though, not Unity

[heady iris]

look, I'm not trying to be rude here -- but if you don't know that private isn't a security feature, you need more experience first

[shell scarab]

if it helps @rocky helm, properties are treated as methods.

[leaden ice]

the answer is - they are slower than fields but not slower-enough in general that you need to worry about it unless you are micro optimizing

[heady iris]

i'm using tons of (virtual) properties in my game now and I really need to go profile that

[ornate moon]

Well at least I feel less silly now

[rocky helm]

I coded in other engines where there was no private nor public really so I haven't had enough time to completely understand them, but anyways. seems that properties, or whatever they are, are slower.

[shell scarab]

yea but like, really not by much

[knotty sun]

what language does not have scope?

[ornate moon]

Basic?

[simple egret]

Lua

JS

[knotty sun]

yes it does

[ember cape]

When you say DDOLs, do you leave the scene loaded no matter what? Like you load other scenes additively?

[rocky helm]

Luau

[heady iris]

access modifiers, not scope

[knotty sun]

JS certaily does

[shell scarab]

don't destroy on load objects:
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Object.DontDestroyOnLoad.html

[knotty sun]

access modifiers are scope

[rocky helm]

Or atleast not used much if it exists

[leaden ice]

Lua absolutely has scope

[rocky helm]

Luau

[leaden ice]

and public/private is not related to scope

[heady iris]

Access modifiers can influence scope.

[knotty sun]

of course they are

[leaden ice]

never heard of it but appears to be derived from Lua

which actually has scope

[heady iris]

scope is simply the context in which a name is valid

[leaden ice]

ok you know what, fair they are related to scope for sure

[heady iris]

I'm so used to thinking of scope purely in terms of locals

[rocky helm]

public and private aren't really used there, everything is just private, no script can just do ScriptB.variable

Anyways I don't wish to spark a fire so lets just stop please

[leaden ice]

Everything in C# is just private, unless you excplitly add public

[ember cape]

I was under the impression that loading scenes additively does not destroy the active scenes, am I wrong?

[leaden ice]

anyway Lua isn't really an object oriented language

so the whole idea paradigm of objects doesn't really apply

[rocky helm]

Luau is

[shell scarab]

loading scenes additively combines gameobjects from both scenes. Personally I think of it as instantiating a big prefab, even though it's a bit different than that. I don't believe you specified you were loading additively.

[devout harness]

Oh I thought that was a typo, you literally mean Luau

[leaden ice]

I'm not convinced that it is... else they might have mentioned it here https://luau-lang.org/why

[ember cape]

I thought I did, in any case, I should DontDestroyOnLoad() my controllers just to be safe?

[rocky helm]

I believe it is, at least as far as I know what OOP is

[shell scarab]

in that case, I would not additively load all these scenes. I would have a bootstrap scene that the game loads into that has my DDOLs, load into the main menu scene (or in this case the title scene, which I'm assuming splash displays your game title? If you want that you can put that in the player settings and you don't have to load into a scene first, but it will only appear in a build), then from there load into gameplay scenes

[rocky helm]

Anyways it's whatever, I got the answer to my first question, I'm happy

[shell scarab]

if you need to optimize at that level imo it's really not worth saving a few nanoseconds...

[rocky helm]

I didn't know how big the difference it is, that's why I asked

[ember cape]

I see because since I can specify to Unity to not destroy my objects, there is no point in keeping that scene active when I could just keep the objects. Is that it?

[shell scarab]

yes that is my opinion of it. Keeping that scene active is also another way to do it, but personally I find don't destroy on load to be easier to use.

[ember cape]

And one way or another, I assume those objects are accessible by the scenes loaded afterwards?

[shell scarab]

yes

[ornate moon]

Yeah thanks for the help. The last week has been a string of getting nowhere because of weird crap. FUN FACT: most the wrapping options in textmeshpro text boxes do literally nothing! They flat out don't work. That was a fun hour or so figuring that out.

[hexed pecan]

How do you go about profiling that? Just comparing normal methods to virtual/override ones?

[sharp cloak]

Since when this doesnt work and how to make it work?

[hexed pecan]

Nothing wrong with that code

It should show up in the inspector

[sharp cloak]

it doesn't sadly

[shell scarab]

it doesn't show in the inspector?

[knotty sun]

then you have compile erros

[hexed pecan]

Save your file and/or fix compile errors

[shell scarab]

this is the script asset's inspector

[knotty sun]

you are looking at the script, you need to be looking at a gameobject that uses the script

[sharp cloak]

Where can i find the field to set the array than?

oh yea i forgot lol, my bad

[shell scarab]

on the gameobject you attatched the script to?

[sharp cloak]

i see now

[shell scarab]

if you're looking for default field values, which only work in edit mode, I believe an array will work.

[sharp cloak]

And is there any way i can make it apear here?

in other scripts it appears

[shell scarab]

yea try an array. But that only works in edit mode, not builds

[sharp cloak]

What would work for build too?

[shell scarab]

use the start or awake method to get the references you need?

[leaden ice]

This is this is only for default references

you need to look at the inspector on an actual instance of the script attached to a GameObject

not by clicking on the script asset

[knotty sun]

will you please stop giving nonsensical advice

[shell scarab]

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to. Please explain how that's nonsensical so I can give better advice.

[knotty sun]

he is trying to see a field in the inspector, that has nothing to do with Awake or Start but is only about how it is defined in the code

[shell scarab]

i don't believe you read everything

[knotty sun]

really? #archived-code-general message

[shell scarab]

yes, really

[shell scarab]

start from here

[knotty sun]

also #archived-code-general message
total nonesense

[sharp cloak]

What about how to access hierarchy from code?

[shell scarab]

total nonsense?

how is that total nonsense?

[knotty sun]

in what way is an Array different from a List in the inspector?

[shell scarab]

apparently none. I suggested to try it because I was unsure how exactly default references display references in the script inspector. It takes 2 seconds to try it.

[soft shard]

Do you mean the Hierarchy window itself through an Editor script, or the tree of some specific parent object with children?

[shell scarab]

if you read what they're asking they want the field to be assignable in the script inspector

[sharp cloak]

i want to find an gameobject by name which isnt anyhow connected to the script

[shell scarab]

I also told them that it only works in edit mode. They asked how to make it work in a build, so I said they need to use the start/awake method to assign objects to the list, which you called nonsensical.

which is in of itself, nonsensical

[knotty sun]

fields are never assignable in the script inspector, only once that have been attached to a gameobject

[shell scarab]

really? U sure about that?

[knotty sun]

yep

[hexed pecan]

Scripts do allow you to set default values..

[shell scarab]

what's this then?

[hexed pecan]

It's either reference types or value types only, I forgot which

Yea reference types

[shell scarab]

reference types that aren't an array i guess

[knotty sun]

those are assigned in the script not in the inspector

[shell scarab]

i literally showed you the inspector of a script

[hexed pecan]

Yea this part

[shell scarab]

look, I assigned it

[soft shard]

The GameObject class has static functions like .FindObjectOfType and .Find and I believe a few others, though in most cases I would suggest against searching objects by name, simply because its very easy to mistype or rename the object, then your code would no longer work, or if you have 2 objects with the same name, it may only ever return the first one - for that reason its often better to store a reference to the object instead if its already a part of the scene - or if its instantiated instead, you can pass a reference from Instantiate, which returns a Object

[shell scarab]

just because you don't know unity doesn't mean you have to start saying im giving nonsensical advice. There's a more constructive way of questioning the validitiy of what I'm saying.

[knotty sun]

ok,and what happens when you add the script to a gameobject?

[shell scarab]

here's a video:

[simple egret]

Yeah it's like field initializers but from the Inspector

[shell scarab]

yup

[sharp cloak]

[SerializeField] Transform obstaclesBlueprints; What type it has to be for me to be able to assign an object from hierarchy?

[shell scarab]

it just won't work if you try to instantiate an object at runtime

[sharp cloak]

bc Transform and GameObject dont work

[simple egret]

Nothing really extraordinary, but useful if you need some default asset

[simple egret]

Any of those two

[sharp cloak]

Wont let me

drag an object there

[hexed pecan]

Honestly, why do you think default references exist?

[jovial valley]

how come this isnt doing anything?
https://gdl.space/coyufihase.cs

[soft shard]

Do you have any messages, warnings or errors in your console?

[shell scarab]

!code

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[shell scarab]

also, screenshot please? Maybe you are dragging the wrong type of object?

[simple egret]

You're probably trying to reference a scene object into a prefab, you cannot do that

[sharp cloak]

this but i dont think it matters now

[shell scarab]

or a script asset

[sharp cloak]

i would like to put this there

so i can access its children to form a list in Start void

[shell scarab]

so add the component onto it

through the add component menu

[sharp cloak]

sorry?

[shell scarab]

!learn

[tawny elk]

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[simple egret]

What are you trying to drag? Where is it located?
Same two questions for the target script of the drag-drop

[soft shard]

Do you have this script attached to another object in the scene, or is this script attached to a prefab or another asset file that is not in the scene?

[sharp cloak]

Yeah i mean i am comming back to unity after like 5 years now so i forgot everything and try to finish a project

[sharp cloak]

it isnt attached anywhere, i am trying to keep this particular script this way

[shell scarab]

also i apologize, i think I misunderstood you, you're saying you'd like to drag that gameobject onto that field. Make sure that script is assigned to a gameobject then you wll be able to

[shell scarab]

then you won't be able to do it because that's a scene object

[jovial valley]

How come this isnt doing anything? like when the Server rpc is called to legit do nothing but print(), it doesnt even do that??
https://gdl.space/coyufihase.cs

[shell scarab]

if you're trying to drag it into the default reference, only assets can be assigned.

[shell scarab]

I do have a question as to why you're trying to keep the script that way?

[sharp cloak]

nvm that is a bad idea i see it now

lastly, how can i get the children?

[shell scarab]

if you want the script to grab references to things when it is instatiated, use something like this: https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Object.FindObjectsOfType.html in the start/awake method

[sharp cloak]

from parent

[shell scarab]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Component.GetComponentsInChildren.html, or you can also use transform.GetChild to get the object: https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Transform.GetChild.html

you can also use a foreach loop in this way:

foreach(Transform t in transform) {
  Debug.Log(t);
}

[soft shard]

(catching up on chat, but just to explain why its impossible) Scripts that derive from MonoBehaviour can be attached to objects in the scene, those objects can be inspected and have scene objects (or prefabs) referenced to them - if a script does not derive from MonoBehavour, it cannot be attached to a object, and cannot hold direct references, so youd have to pass those references to it through code, and not through the inspector - but prefabs and non-mono scripts cannot keep references to scene objects, since theres no guarantee the scene will ever be loaded, and therefore theres no guarantee the object its referencing will ever exist, or when - Non-mono scripts is a nice approach, one I use often myself, though what was the exact goal/purpose of your non-mono script?

[shell scarab]

hi did I miss something? What non mono script?

so much text now it's getting a bit lost

[soft shard]

Maybe I misunderstood something, they mentioned the script wasnt attached to anything and they wanted to keep it that way, which sounds like a non-mono script, as youd usually attach a mono script to some object for references and Unity-specific logic (like Update, Start, etc), if the script IS mono, but they dont plan on using it on a object, it likely could become a non-mono script, depending on the purpose of the script

[sharp cloak]

Why's that?

[soft shard]

What type is obstacles?

[spare otter]

Hey I recently tried adding a rebinding system into my game everything seems to be working right, but the key isn't rebound how can I fix it?

[shell scarab]

I believe they're trying to just assign default references in the script inspector instead of getting them in an awake/start method.

[shell scarab]

GetComponentInChildren needs a component type, not a gameobject.

if you want to get a gameobject in a child, use one of the other 2 ways I described.

[sharp cloak]

ah damn lol

i am trying to get all children in a list

[shell scarab]

you also need GetComponentsInChildren

but also, that will literally get every single component assigned to all your children

[sharp cloak]

but not children of children right?

i only need those level 1 children

[shell scarab]

my bad, i meant Component.GetComponentsInChildren

[shell scarab]

yup, children of children

[sharp cloak]

and what about only children ?

[shell scarab]

if you need all the children of a particular gameobject, try the foreach loop i showed.

[sharp cloak]

oh i missed this response, will try it now tho

👍

[shell scarab]

also, obstacles will need to be a list of GameObjects

[flint sierra]

If one can't copy files in/out of Persistent data path easily then what is a good place to dynamically store assets at runtime for in game reference?

[shell scarab]

I'm not so sure if the foreach loop will only loop through direct children or not however. Documentation is not clear on that.

[shell scarab]

this path? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.environment.specialfolder?view=net-7.0 use MyDocuments

[flint sierra]

Is that cross platform?

[shell scarab]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.environment.getfolderpath?view=net-7.0

[shell scarab]

are you building for consoles?

[flint sierra]

Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android

[shell scarab]

Ik it works for windows and mac, found an answer saying it works for android, not sure about iOS.

[flint sierra]

And that will consistently get a folder in which files can easily be copied to and from on hopefully all platforms?

I was hopping that is what Perisitant Data path would be for me. How is it Unity doesn't have something like that baked in?

[shell scarab]

on windows for example it returns the Documents folder. So you should create a directory in that, not write files directly there. But again, not sure how it works for mobile devices.

[shell scarab]

there's this:
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/FileUtil.GetUniqueTempPathInProject.html

[heady iris]

what is the obstacle to using persistentDataPath?

is a specific platform not usable?

[flint sierra]

It seems I can put files in there, but I can't copy files out?

[heady iris]

no, that's dataPath

[shell scarab]

misunderstood docs lol

[heady iris]

on what platform?

[flint sierra]

Windows

[heady iris]

why do you think this?

it's just a folder in AppData\LocalLow

[flint sierra]

AppData/LocalLow

[shell scarab]

why can't you read files?

[flint sierra]

exactly, I don't think windows likes you touching things in there

[heady iris]

what?

[flint sierra]

but that's the default location

[shell scarab]

not true

[heady iris]

that's where application data goes

go nuts

[flint sierra]

It won't let me go nuts lol

[shell scarab]

what happens when you try?

[heady iris]

then what problem are you having?

[flint sierra]

Unauthorized access

[heady iris]

sounds like you've done something very weird to your folder permissions

[shell scarab]

are you using unity on something like a school or work computer?

[flint sierra]

Nope

[heady iris]

show us the error you are seeing.

[flint sierra]

Just trying to use the File.Copy command on a file in there

1 sec

[shell scarab]

unauthorized access can also be thrown if you're trying to read/write from a directory and not a file

[heady iris]

yes

or if you're trying to write to a bad place

[flint sierra]

what's a bad place?

Failed to copy media file with error: Access to the path 'C:\Users\me\AppData\LocalLow\Comp\TheApp\ImportedContent\TV' is denied.

[heady iris]

and is TV a file or an entire directory?

[shell scarab]

that seems like a directory path, not a file path.

[flint sierra]

TV is a directory

[shell scarab]

then yea you can't read or write to a directory

[heady iris]

iterate over the files in it and copy them individually

[shell scarab]

you need to create a file in the directory and read/write from there

[flint sierra]

ah

Ok

silly me

Its File not Directory...

Yup that did the trick. Windows could be a bit more specific in regards to why something is unauthorized but thanks folks

[heady iris]

yeah, it's a bit unintuitive

you see similar errors on other platforms, too

[hard quiver]

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[hard quiver]

trying to make shooting code for tank game, line 54 "tankColliders" error saying about Collider2D not def.

https://paste.myst.rs/suu51z87

[shell scarab]

what's the exact error?

[hard quiver]

Assets\scripts\Shooting.cs(54,42): error CS1579: foreach statement cannot operate on variables of type 'Collider2D' because 'Collider2D' does not contain a public instance or extension definition for 'GetEnumerator'

[shell scarab]

also, I see immediately you could probably do this better if you stored round as the type Round not GameObject so you do not need to call .GetComponent on it.

oh. tankColliders is not an array.

[hard quiver]

well im just starting and some of the lines are copied

and some i added myself

[shell scarab]

i see

well tankColliders needs to be an array, not single object. It's like you're saying for each apple in my apple, instead of saying for each apple in my apple container.

[hard quiver]

original code had "[]" in line 12 after Collider2D

[shell scarab]

yes, that makes it an array

[hard quiver]

but it generated error in line 25

by deleting it i got rid of the line 25 error and kept going

[shell scarab]

yes, because that is getting a single component, not multiple components. I believe instead of iterating through a foreach statement, you should set the bullet's layer and tank's layer and just say they ignore each other for physics.

[hard quiver]

ohh, so like ignore that part of the code?

[shell scarab]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/LayerBasedCollision.html

although it would be in Physics2D not Physics

[rigid island]

idk what you're trying to do but
tankColliders = GetComponentsInParent<Collider2D>();
private Collider2D[] tankColliders;

[hard quiver]

yes, that was the original script but it made an error

on that exact 2 lines

[rigid island]

what i sent was the fix to that error

tankColliders was not able to iterated, its not collection so you needed []

[hard quiver]

Assets\scripts\Shooting.cs(25,25): error CS0029: Cannot implicitly convert type 'UnityEngine.Collider2D' to 'UnityEngine.Collider2D[]'

it does this

[rigid island]

I get it

[hard quiver]

by deleting the array it fixes

[rigid island]

no

its because ur GetComponent is wrong

It should be GetComponents

[hard quiver]

oh

and suddenly everything works

thanks i guess @rigid island @shell scarab

if something breaks i will try the layers method

[rigid island]

using layer ignoring between each pieces on the tank would be cleaner than code

but both work fine

there are instances you only want to do ignoring at particular times , eg like a bullet only ignores when instantited from player but after a timer, it could potentially bounce and still hurt player

[earnest gyro]

Help with State Machines - Need to Pass Around Mutable Lists of States

[river kelp]

Does anyone have any experience with object pools for networked games? Are there any considerations I have to make with regards to activating / deactivating objects on the host / clients?

Like if the client clicks and spawns a pooled object bullet, I send that message to the server and have it spawn a bullet too, but I want them to spawn the same bullet

Or is there a network for game objects way of doing this that differs from how you'd do it in a single player game?

[lean sail]

Would be better if you ask in #archived-networking or the ngo server.
Your client shouldnt be directly spawning network objects, at least in ngo it's not allowed

[river kelp]

By spawning I really mean activating the pooled object

I'll ask there

[green radish]

can anyone explain why this always prints zero?

in all contexts it's being used the list is a size of 2

so this should only be printing when it exceeds Element 1(forceCount is being set to the list.Count in the Start method)

the intended purpose of the method is that it should check if the selected Element is not part of the original items in the list, if it's not one of the originals, I would proceed to remove it

if that works than I'd add extra conditions for when it should be removed

[quaint rock]

well if its printing 0 that suggest that forceCount was at 0

[loud wharf]

And forceCount is 0. And subtracted by 1 so it meets the condition.

[spring creek]

What is the difference between Forces.Count and forceCount? Curious how the latter is set

Edit: ah, in start

[heady iris]

you have two different values, yes

[quaint rock]

also not sure how this tests if its part of the orginal items or not

you never check the value of the items, just the index

[lean sail]

The debugger can explain it best, you really should use it. Itll tell you what every single variable is an even pause execution so you can take however long you want to check every variable

[green radish]

I found out the cause is that one object has a list of 1, but that still doesnt make sense, if its checking above forceCount - 1, that means it should be checking if above 0 in that context, and only printing if it has two Elements

[quaint rock]

yes but forceCount was 0

then you subtract one making it negative one

so zero is greater then negative one

[green radish]

forceCount is equal to the list.Count, which would be 1, not 0

[quaint rock]

why have it then

directly do list.Count

[green radish]

then it subtracts 1, which is 0, then checks if above that

[lean sail]

That is all what you think is happening. Not what is happening

[spring creek]

Are you positive it's 1, because your print says otherwise

[green radish]

because that gets the current count, not the count during the Start method

[quaint rock]

just log the value of it in the loop

you will see its 0

if something is weird, use the debugger or log to test all assumptions

[green radish]

I just found the problem, its really tiny and dumb, but it makes sense now, I forgot to include the line setting forceCount in the original class, so the object using that class directly gets a forceCount of 0

no object ever should be using that class under normal circumstances, but I had put it on one just to test that it works, and somehow forgot to include that line

[loud wharf]

Maybe forceCount was equal to list.Count (started as empty) but now, the list is updated.

[green radish]

the point is that forceCount is logging the original count of the list, that way I can check if the selected item is one of the original ones

if not, its safe to remove

so its comparing the original count to the current count and removing new items, which can then be changed to only remove them under certain circumstances(if the selected Force has a force value of 0, since that means its doing nothing)

[shell scarab]

How would I have different play modes? For example many games have something like running in debug mode or not what you can choose from an option in steam or by running it with a command line arg. It appears that I cannot read passed command line args however, so is there a way?

[heady iris]

Sounds like you want command line arguments. I'm pretty sure you just use System.Environment.GetCommandLineArgs();

[quaint rock]

yeah you can still pass it args like a regular application

[shell scarab]

Oh

When looking that up online it just says you can’t with unity lol

[quaint rock]

make a build and test it out, use the line @heady iris suggested

will return a array of them, then you can check for the one you care about and act accordlining

[rocky basalt]

How could you take a AudioClip.length (float) and turn it into a string "1m10s" format?

I am having hard time finding way to accurate get certain decimal places

[quaint rock]

@rocky basalt it gives length in seconds

so could do the math and round

or feed it into a TimeSpan

and use it to get the minutes and seconds

[shell scarab]

you could also divide it bu 60 then modulo by 60 and combine that

[quaint rock]

that or a TimeSpan.FromSeconds(clip.length) then you can ask that for the number of minutes and seconds to format a string.

[shell scarab]

Does .ToString have a time formatter?

If it does could possibly use that

[quaint rock]

would have to test, in this case would jsut from seconds then ${x.Minutes}m{x.Seconds}s

[quaint rock]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.timespan.tostring?view=net-7.0 it does

[heady iris]

Where?

[lethal mantle]

Can someone give me a movement script

[vagrant blade]

That's not how this Discord works.

[lethal mantle]

Then where can I go too get one

[heady iris]

now you're both cross-posting and asking people to write your code for you.

[lethal mantle]

Yes I am

Like I said I started TODAY

[vagrant blade]

Great, so start !learning

[tawny elk]

🧑‍🏫 Unity Learn can offer you over 750 hours of free live and on-demand learning content for all levels of experience! Make sure to check it out at https://learn.unity.com/

[lethal mantle]

Thank you

[rocky basalt]

Here's the float to mins/secs code I landed on

float length = audioClip.Length; string mins = (length / 60).ToString("F0"); string secs = (clipLength % 60).ToString("F1"); string finalResult = mins + "m " + secs + "s";

Results

[ember cape]

How do you go about accessing your controllers after loading a different scene?

[shell scarab]

I have a scene controller (if i need it) and a global controller. I use a scene loaded callback to know when a scene was loaded to grab the scene controller from the global controller.

If i dont need a scene controller and global controller, i just use the callback to grab different references or whatever i need it to do

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/SceneManagement.SceneManager-sceneLoaded.html

[ember cape]

A callback as in private void OnSceneLoaded()? I was about to ask you that lol

[shell scarab]

I like to use that one bc it can also be used from any class and i get information ab the scene passed to me

[half trail]

With netcode for gameobjects how should I go about timestamping game states? I tried using the network tick system but they dont seem to line up on client and server. Like an object starts moving at tick 100 for server and tick 97 for client. Then when I run some code for reconciliation client will conpare server tick 100 with client tick 100 which will obviously be different because it shouldve checked client tick 97

Looking at the documentation it makes sense since localtime/servertime arent meant to be synced between clients and server if Im understanding it correctly so what should I use instead?

[leaden ice]

what are you trying to do? Client side prediction / rollback?

[half trail]

Yea, Ive gotten something sorta working for players but for non player controlled enemies Im struggling to wrap my head around it

[leaden ice]

Netcode has a system for client prediction:
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.netcode@1.0/manual/prediction.html#prediction

oh shit that's the entities package haha

[half trail]

Oh yea I ran into pages for this while looking for timestamp stuff

Is there a difference between netcode for gameobjects and netcode for entities?

[leaden ice]

yes

one is for GameObjects

one is for ECS

https://docs-multiplayer.unity3d.com/netcode/current/learn/dealing-with-latency/#client-side-prediction there's this

[half trail]

Sorry, what is ECS?

[leaden ice]

If you are asking that question you're definitely not using it.
https://unity.com/ecs

it's basically a revamp of the whole engine to not use GameObjects and components, but rather use a different system which is more efficient in terms of memory layout and multithreaded by default

[half trail]

I see

How difficult would it be to convert what I have currently to support ECS?

[leaden ice]

very difficult

It's not something you do lightly

[spring creek]

Why do you want to?

Basically always do it from the start. I converted once and... i'm still doing so

[half trail]

Just wanted to use netcode for entities for the client side prediction I suppose

[leaden ice]

Looks like client prediction is "in progress" for Netcode for GameObjects:
https://portal.productboard.com/36ukwpc4kysiqwfanhjdglcd/c/2339-scalable-netcode?utm_medium=social&utm_source=portal_share

[half trail]

Yea its been on the roadmap for a while

[leaden ice]

You could look into Photon Fusion

they have SA/client prediction/lag compensation

[half trail]

Yea I tried PUN first but I switched to NGO since that was the unitys implementation

[leaden ice]

PUN is not Fusion

[half trail]

Oh

[leaden ice]

PUN is a much older much shittier framework

[half trail]

I see

[leaden ice]

(both are products of the company called Photon)

[half trail]

So is there no solution to this besides switching to ECS or using another netcode implementation that already has CSP?

[leaden ice]

third solution is implement your own

[half trail]

Yea thats what Ive been trying to do

[leaden ice]

yeah sorry I sidetracked you because I didn't realize they didn't have an implementation yet

[half trail]

No worries!

These all look like fun rabbit holes to look into in the future

Especially ECS

[half trail]

Just wondering how to go about this still

[spring creek]

I don't mean to steer you away. I love ecs, it is just missing a lot. One of the biggest things is that you can't use animations without big workarounds. Almost no normal unity component works out of the box really. But if you have an extra year to develop, go for it! Plus it only just got to 1.0 in may

[half trail]

Might wait on that for now

But it seems like localtime.tick isnt what Im looking for to timestamp gamestates

Would I have to sync up a counter or something?

[versed zodiac]

I refactored some code around to instantiate tilemaps on demand as opposed to having them sitting in the scene. Now I'm suddenly getting an error every time I run the project:
"In order to call GetTransformInfoExpectUpToDate, RendererUpdateManager.UpdateAll must be called first.
UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent (int,intptr,bool&)"

Google has plenty of results but no real answers. Unity claims to have solved the issue in a previous version, but that isn't the case. I'm using 2023.1.3f1.

How do I hunt down the fix with an error message as vague as that?

Weirdly, I've noticed it has something to do with the tilemap as a whole coming into the camera's view. If I run the project with the tilemap out of view, no error, but as soon as it moves into view, error.

[cosmic rain]

Maybe look at solutions similar to GGPO and how they're implemented. Fro what I understand, there's a certain sync point, where you definitely know that the clients are in the same state, where you would start a frame counter and do your roll acks based on each clients current frame.

[leaden ice]

I think that has to do with rendering the object's inspector? What Happens if you don't have that object selected?

[versed zodiac]

Don't currently have any object selected. Inspector is blank. Error persists.

I should clarify that this is happening with the 2D URP.

[thin shoal]

It there a way to have custom skins on characters like Additional clothing to a model without inserting such object into the model itself?

[whole mist]

is there a reason why my enemies are not repathing when this is called?

both the agent and the target are prefabs

i feel like it might have something to do with that but im not sure

[shell scarab]

Is there a way to make this unchecked properly? Getting an oveflow exception from it.

ulong longSeed = unchecked(ulong.Parse(step2)); // step2 is a string

also tried this:

ulong longSeed = unchecked((ulong)BigInteger.Parse(step2));

[cosmic rain]

Not really a coding question, but you can rig another model body part(for example torso) with different clothing and add it to the character prefab.

[cosmic rain]

Unchecked is used as a scope:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/statements/checked-and-unchecked

Though I'd really avoid doing that. If the overflow is inevitable, just catch the error and handle it.

You don't want undefined behavior running wild in your app.

[shell scarab]

yea i mean that's what I'm doing, only unchecking the conversion

[shell scarab]

I thought it was defined, that it will wrap around to the minimum (in this case) because the bits roll over to all 0s

[cosmic rain]

No to a minimum, it depends on how much it overflows afaik. That's why you should avoid using it at all. Use a try catch instead.

[cosmic rain]

The error is not caused by parsing but by assigning most likely.

Or both. But you're not wrapping the assignment in unchecked.

[cosmic rain]

There is no guarantee that it has the same behavior every time. It might depend on the compiler and environment. That's why it's an undefined behavior.

For example, if you build IL2cpp build there's no guarantee that an overflow would work the same way.

[shell scarab]

hmm.

[thin shoal]

Been trying but nothing happened

not so much guides on how to do them as well

[cosmic rain]

Should be plenty of tutorials on that.
Here's one for example:
https://youtu.be/nSmEirb8JGM?si=MTd13KY_0H1L5RpY

[thin shoal]

tested and its doesn't work as intended

the model have Weight paint and should be flexible

[shell scarab]

I believe overflow behavior is defined btw:

[thin shoal]

now it just disappeared

[cosmic rain]

They cover that in the video.

[cosmic rain]

It is defined in C#, but it's still erroneous behavior. Besides, it seems like you don't understand how it works exactly - you assumed that it would reset to 0.
That's why it's better to catch the error and handle it instead of hiding it with unchecked.

[thin shoal]

ok but the model is stiff and does not follow the character

[shell scarab]

i assumed it would wrap around to 0 then continue onwards like it seems to be defined to do? And, how could it be called erroneous if it's defined? but I guess it's only for actual operations and not casting.

it even says right thre that it wraps around from the maximum value to the minimum value

[thin shoal]

and made the source object disappeared

[cosmic rain]

Okay, then I misunderstood you previously. I though you expected it to reset to 0 regardless of the overflow.

It's erroneous, because it goes beyond the defined value range. Ideally you shouldn't even get to that situation.

[shell scarab]

i believe in this situation it would be fine: I'm taking a user's string and converting it to a bunch of numbers, which can be really big. I don't care exactly what the numbers are, just that it's the same each time. I'd be using it for a seed.

for now I'm just using BigInteger but it was annoying that unchecked doesn't work for casting.

[cosmic rain]

It's not fine. Even more so, if it's user input.
What if they input some other character that is not parsable? You want to handle that as well.

[shell scarab]

yea want to see my regex code?

i believe it definitely is fine

[cosmic rain]

Well, suit yourself then. If this kind of code was in a project I'm working it I would tell them to rewrite it.

[shell scarab]

why??

[cosmic rain]

Is it a skinned mesh renderer?

[shell scarab]

if zzzzzz goes to idk, 46 each time, why care? It's the same each time for zzzzzz, and that's all that matters is that it produces the same value for the same string.

[thin shoal]

Yup

Tested on blender using the same model imported via fbx

[cosmic rain]

Because stuff like user input can produce a plethora of errors, some of which you'd want to catch and handle in different ways.

It's not about wethet it works in your case or not. It's about good and bad practices. It's like using static field for player variables in a single player game. It would work, but no one would suggest that kind of code.

[shell scarab]

        string step1 = Regex.Replace(seedString, @"[^a-zA-Z0-9]", x => "");
        string step2 = Regex.Replace(step1.ToUpper(), @"[a-zA-Z]", x => ((int)x.Value[0]).ToString());

I believe this would work for every case

[cosmic rain]

Move to #💻┃unity-talk and share more details. This is not a coding question.

[shell scarab]

which can leave me with really big numbers. I want to reduce those numbers into a uint or a ulong. It doesn't matter how, just that it's the same each time.

sorry, I just really don't see where the problem is

[cosmic rain]

That's not the issue. The issue is that the player might thing that all characters are fine and might think that they are part of the seed. You need to provide some kind of feedback to the user.

[shell scarab]

yea, by not allowing % for example be put in?

I want to allow letters and just turn them into numbers.

[cosmic rain]

I don't know anymore. If you want to allow letter and turn them into numbers(not sure how you're gonna do it), it's up to you.

I've made emy point: you should be handling errors instead of hiding them. If you want to ignore it, feel free. There is no point in continuing this discussion.

[shell scarab]

but how is behavior that seems to be defined an error!? It's a keyword, they don't just make features to hide errors.

well whatever

[shadow laurel]

I keep encountering this Null Reference Exception (Attached Image), but can't seem to find the problem in the code (Linked below). Could I get some help with this
https://hatebin.com/jjjlyjnkea

[cosmic rain]

Share the whole script or explain what line is line 51.

[shadow laurel]

line 51 is the if (character.IsOwner) statement

the only other code I have written is the lines relating to the WorldSaveGameManager, or the TitleScreenManager. Which have been working until I wrote the script linked

[cosmic rain]

Ok, then character is null.

[shadow laurel]

I'll check that and see if I can fix it from there thanks

[cosmic rain]

If you have issues like that it's really too early for you to do networking. I recommend reevaluating your priorities and maby have a few single player games finished first.

[shadow laurel]

Nah, its alg. I just hadn't encountered that before and the error had a lot in it so I was unsure what to do. I got it fixed now though. Thanks for your help

[vague tundra]

How can I achieve something like the following behaviour:

I have a chain of classes that extend eachother, with the parent-most class extending ScriptableObject.
How can I have an empty list on the parent-most class, and add to that list in each extending child, such that child-most class has all the items its parents have contributed?
All classes are abstract, other than the child-most class

[cosmic ermine]

is there anyway I can tell unity to just ignore an assembly? Like not bother checking and displaying the errors from an assembly in console?

[leaden solstice]

What errors are you getting?

[cosmic ermine]

valid ones. I'm making a fairly large change to the way my code is structured so the other assemblies are getting angry at not being able to find the stuff they want. So I just want to disable them temporarily so I can focus on errors in the new code only. Does this make sense? For now I'm just manually commenting out the scripts in the assemblies, but this is slow lol

[leaden solstice]

Hmm depends I guess, you can use define constraints or platform checkbox to ignore/not include assembly.. but there might be side effects if your assets are using it

[cosmic ermine]

Thanks, I'll mess around with them!

[sharp cloak]

Why does the obstacles list is empty on last line in scr?

[cosmic rain]

Because nothing was added to it probably.🤷‍♂️

[sharp cloak]

I add Transforms in the Start() method

[cosmic rain]

Does the start run?

[sharp cloak]

Yes

[cosmic rain]

Does the loop run?

[sharp cloak]

Yes

It prints in The start The correct count

But somehow in The other void The count is 0

[cosmic rain]

Then you either have another object where nothing is added to the list, or you clear the list somewhere else.

[sharp cloak]

Thats The only code

[upper pilot]

Is it normal for onClick event to not be visible in the inspector at runtime if added through code?

[cosmic rain]

That can't possibly be the only code. You call that method from somewhere else, so...

[cosmic rain]

Yes

[sharp cloak]

Yeah i call the method from the other file but only this one has the access to obstacles list

[cosmic rain]

Are you sure about that? Make the list private and test.

[leaden solstice]

I’m guessing they’re referencing prefab 😄

[cosmic rain]

They iterate transform in Start. I can't think of a situation where that would be a prefab.🤔
It could be that the ChangeObstscle is called on a prefab though.

[leaden solstice]

Yeah from the other script I meant

[civic dirge]

Can I ask for help here?

[upper pilot]

Is there a way to see if listener already exists or how many there are?
I am deleting a button object with listener on it, then creating a new one, but it seems like I have multiple listeners on the same button.

[lean sail]

If its code related yes, just ask instead of asking to ask

[civic dirge]

Ye, I prolly should have

[upper pilot]

public void UpdateUpgradeButtons()
{
    foreach(Transform transform in upgradeButtonContainer.transform)
    {
        Destroy(transform.gameObject);
    }

    foreach (UnitSO unitSO in UnitsDB.Instance.unitsList)
    {
        UnitData unitData = PlayerUnitData.Instance.GetStats(unitSO);
        UpgradeButton upgradeButton = Instantiate(upgradeButtonPrefab, upgradeButtonContainer.transform);
        UpdateUpgradeButtonText(upgradeButton, unitSO, unitData);

        upgradeButton.GetComponent<Button>().onClick.AddListener(() => SelectUnit(upgradeButton, unitSO));
    }
}

Is there anything that might cause listener to be added to the same button twice?(or 5 times? :D)

I am destroying the object before I create new one.

[civic dirge]

I have two layers of inheretance in my prodject, all of them uses the start function, is there a way to call the middle one, cause base.Start goes down to the first one?

[leaden solstice]

base.Start calls direct parent’s Start if overridden

[civic dirge]

wierd, maybe something else is happening

[leaden solstice]

Make sure you are using virtual/override Start

[civic dirge]

That worked thx

[lean sail]

maybe you are looking for some of the public functions here
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Events.UnityEvent.html
although i dont really understand what the issue is with your code

[upper pilot]

Fixed the issue, I was adding a listener inside another listener which caused it to stack up.

[sharp cloak]

It is

[opal cargo]

Hi guys, does someone have a good resource (or two) about how to organize animation, movement, camera, input and game states?
My state machines for PlayerController, CameraController and WeaponController are quite huge and need to observe each other for state transition, that's getting a bit complicated. When putting UI like a pause menu on top or starting to change animations depending on the PlayerController-State, it slowly falls apart. Are there some interesting GDC talks to see some best practices by huge studios for player control and flow?

[covert turret]

are you using Action? or any kind of subscriber notification functionality?

[opal cargo]

To communicate between Cam, Kinematic Character Controller and Weapon Controller I use simple C# events

Looks kinda like this

When my Kinematic CC detects it's i.e. on a slope, it sends an event to the cam (via Player Controller) to limit camera rotation so that the Player always looks down the slope

[covert turret]

sounds good so far, what do you mean by things fall apart exactly?

If you put a pause menu can't you deny all the events from triggering via player controller?

if everything really routes through there

[opal cargo]

At the moment my FSM in the KCC also triggers the animations depending on the state of the Character, but this also effects animation (sliding animation, walking, etc.). But i.e. my Weapon Controller also triggers some animations which can interfere with the KCC

[covert turret]

sounds like you need an animation queuing system of some kind

so they're overriding each others animations?

[opal cargo]

Does my Player Controller call the UI to pop up or should there be another component on top of the Player Controller that disables all Player Input and manages popping up the UI?

[opal cargo]

Exactly

Also I don't know if this is best practice, so I want to learn how most studios do Controllers for Movement, Animation, Camera etc.

And how they work together, what patterns they use

[covert turret]

So is your inputs being served directly from player controller?

[opal cargo]

I have an input class that gets all events from unity input system and sends out events to subscribers

public class InputReader : ScriptableObject, PlayerInputMap.IGameplayActions, PlayerInputMap.IInventoryActions, PlayerInputMap.IUIActions
{

    PlayerInputMap _gameInput;

    private void OnEnable()
    {
        if(_gameInput == null )
        {
            _gameInput = new PlayerInputMap();

            _gameInput.Gameplay.SetCallbacks(this);
            _gameInput.UI.SetCallbacks(this);
            _gameInput.Inventory.SetCallbacks(this);

            SetGameplay();
        }
    }

    public void SetGameplay()
    {
        _gameInput.Gameplay.Enable();
        _gameInput.UI.Disable();
        _gameInput.Inventory.Disable();
    }

    public void SetUI()
    {
        _gameInput.Gameplay.Disable();
        _gameInput.UI.Enable();
        _gameInput.Inventory.Disable();
    }

    public void SetInventory()
    {
        _gameInput.Gameplay.Disable();
        _gameInput.UI.Disable();
        _gameInput.Inventory.Enable();
    }

    public event Action<Vector2> MoveEvent;
    public event Action<Vector2> LookEvent;

    public event Action JumpEvent;
    public event Action JumpCancelledEvent;
....

[wintry crescent]

if, in Awake, I disable that script and then enable it, will it call OnEnable twice and OnDisable once, or will it call onEnable once? Will onEnable and onDisable happen immediately when enabling/disabling the object, or only after Awake is done?

[covert turret]

You've got the right idea with the hierarchy, as long as you're able to be modular without interdependency between classes you're on the right path

But yeah there should be a sort of 'game manager' that controls the state of the game, you could technically stick it into the input reader like you did there, but that is breaking single responsibility

states could look like:
Menu
Game
Cutscene

or not at all, you could just go straight boolean and check if user is in a menu or not

[opal cargo]

I'm thinking about a game manager that subscribes to all Events from InputReader (SetGameplay, SetUI...) and Game Manager sends a signal to PlayerController to ignore all Inputs

[covert turret]

I do want to comment that the tree you have for the player controller is really good though

[covert turret]

yeah sounds about right

[opal cargo]

The thing that bothers me the most is the following

Find it awkward that my Hand FSM can set a KCC State like this, maybe I should move all state change logic to Player Controller instead and control every state from there (Cam, KCC, Weapon)?
Then PlayerController has to read all necessary state information from KCC though, since KCC checks for grounded etc.
But this would bring more dependencies I guess, what shouldn't be an issue when my Player Controller is written for the KCC, Weapon Controller and CamController?

Aaaand I think I'm getting into an analysis paralysis 😄

[covert turret]

If I'm interpreting this corrrectly, then yes it looks fine. The hand will tell the controller how to react

and then player controller will validate to see if the action can be done

this is from F.E.A.R game devs

the animation that tells the agent to play is attached to the object

rather than stored in the player

[opal cargo]

Kinda how it's done (event sets a variable true, check begins in KCC, if check is true, FSM switches to climbing state, which triggers a camera shake and position sweep)

[covert turret]

yeah

and the event to trigger the camera shake is sent back up player controller?

[opal cargo]

Yes, the new Body FSM state sends an event to Player Controller, which is subscribed by the camera that get's a follow Point by the event and centers the camera on the ledge, so the player always looks where he's trying to grab onto.

[opal cargo]

Can I have the source?

[covert turret]

https://alumni.media.mit.edu/~jorkin/gdc2006_orkin_jeff_fear.pdf

its a good read

talks about how they designed the AI

plenty of FSMs

[opal cargo]

And maybe you can clarify some other thing to me, at the moment I have some special FSM States that ignore player input and just move the players XYZ position (lerp) over time while playing an animation - is this how fixed animations like climbing up a ledge are done or is there a better way?

Like

public class PlayerClimbSmallLedgeState : PlayerBaseState
{
    ....
    public PlayerClimbSmallLedgeState(TanukiKCC currentContext, PlayerStateFactory playerStateFactory, TanukiCam tanukiCam, Animator animator) : base(currentContext, playerStateFactory, tanukiCam, animator)
    {
        _animationList = ctx.climbUpSmallAnim;
    }

    public override void CheckSwitchStates()
    {
       if(animationDone)
        {
            ctx.debugState("Switching to Fall");
            CurrentSuperState.ExitState();
            SwitchState(factory.Grounded);
        }
    }

    public override void EnterState()
    {
    
        TimeInState = 0;
        _listCnt = 0;
        animationDone = false;
        animator.Play("ClimbUp");
        ...
    }

    public override void ExitState()
    {
        _listCnt = 0;
        animationDone = false;
        ctx.debugState("Exit UpForward State");
    }
    ...

    private void PlayAnimation()
    {
        if (animationDone)
            return;

        Vector3 animation = new Vector3(
            diff.x * _animationList[_listCnt].Z.Evaluate(TimeInState / _animationList[_listCnt].AnimationDuration),
            diff.y * _animationList[_listCnt].Y.Evaluate(TimeInState / _animationList[_listCnt].AnimationDuration),
            diff.z * _animationList[_listCnt].Z.Evaluate(TimeInState / _animationList[_listCnt].AnimationDuration)
        );

        ctx.motor.SetPosition(startPos + animation);

        if (TimeInState <= _animationList[_listCnt].AnimationDuration)
        {
            return;
        }

        if (_listCnt < _animationList.Capacity - 1)
        {
            _listCnt++;
            TimeInState = 0;
        }
        else
            animationDone = true;
    }

    public override Vector3 UpdateVelocity(Vector3 currentVelocity, float deltaTime)
    {
        TimeInState += deltaTime;
        PlayAnimation();        

        return Vector3.zero;
    }
}

So there are some XYZ-Curves that specify how the player moves to the desired position over time, while this is done an animation is played in parallel.

Maybe I can replace this whole thing by AnimationClips and Keyframes?

[ashen yoke]

does your fsm have transitions abstracted?

[covert turret]

Personally, I wouldnt be too concerned how 'good' an implementation is until it needs to serve a purpose that I completely had no foresight of it needing. Otherwise you'll fall under the same category as premature optimisation

If it works, it works, until its too clunky and heavy to work with

[ashen yoke]

well you can write everything in a single static class using goto instead of methods

[opal cargo]

Find it quite hard to write thos animations, so I thought maybe there's an easier way that saves me time and is less complex than writing my own XYZ Curves

[ashen yoke]

then refactor to use methods

[covert turret]

You could also just replace it with an animation with root animation? But you chose to do lerp

[ashen yoke]

then refactor to use classes

[covert turret]

Yeah well thats where wisdom from experience comes in

[ashen yoke]

and so on, or you can simply select a good architecture from the start

[covert turret]

perhaps you could do a spline traversal of some sort? Or root animation movement?

[covert turret]

Yes, but if you're inexperienced in any aspect you could easily fall into overengineering something

just to pursue the 'better' system

[opal cargo]

No, I just use a base state and working with Root and Substates

public class PlayerClimbState : PlayerBaseState
{
    ...
    
    public PlayerClimbState(TanukiKCC currentContext, PlayerStateFactory playerStateFactory, TanukiCam tanukiCam, Animator animator) : base(currentContext, playerStateFactory, tanukiCam, animator)
    {
        isRootState = true;
        _animationList = ctx.climbUpAnim;
    }

    public override void CheckSwitchStates()
    {
        if(!ctx.inputs.wantClimb && !isAnimating)
        {
            SwitchState(factory.Fall);
        }
    }

    public override void EnterState()
    {
        ...
        InitializeSubState();
    }

    public override void ExitState()
    {
        ...
    }

    public override void InitializeSubState()
    {
        if(ctx.inAir && !ctx.onWall)
        {
            ctx.onWall = true;
            Debug.Log("Set onWall");
            SetSubState(factory.ClimbHangOnAir);
        }
        else if(ctx.inputs.moveInput.x != 0 )
        {
            Debug.Log("Set ClimbSide");
            SetSubState(factory.ClimbSideway);
        }
        else if(ctx.inputs.moveInput.y > 0 && CheckClimbUp() && ctx.onGround && smallLedge)
        {
            Debug.Log("Set ClimbSmallLedge");
            ctx.isClimbing = true;
            SetSubState(factory.ClimbSmallLedge);
        }
        else if(ctx.inputs.moveInput.y > 0 && !ctx.onWall && ctx.onGround)
        {
            Debug.Log("Set ClimbUp");
            ctx.onWall = true;
            SetSubState(factory.ClimbUp);
        }
        else if(ctx.inputs.moveInput.y > 0 && ctx.onWall && !ctx.onGround && CheckClimbUp())
        {
            Debug.Log("Set ClimbUpForward");
            SetSubState(factory.ClimbUpForward);
        }
        else
        {
            Debug.Log("Set ClimbIdle");
            SetSubState(factory.ClimbIdle);
        }
    }

    public override void UpdateState()
    {
        CheckSwitchStates();
    }
...
}

[ashen yoke]

thats an imperative approach that is not completely an fsm

[opal cargo]

Don't know much about root animation, some guys told me to better keep movement and animations separated so I did that

[opal cargo]

Thought this is an Hierarchical Finite State Machine?

[ashen yoke]

hierarchical just implies nesting, afaik, it doesnt specify what method is used for state change

[covert turret]

Every method has its application, i.e you could do a root motion ladder climb to exit from one level to enter another.

Depends on your situation

[ashen yoke]

in your case your states are allowed to manipulate fsm state

meaning they break encapsulation and the whole thing is hardcoupled to specifics

if you abstract the logic for state switching into transitions the states will need to know a lot less

states will only implement their direct function, setting parameters, speed etc,
while transitions that are injected into fsm at higher level will dictate and make decisions on how the fsm as a whole works

[opal cargo]

So more like in my simpler FSMs?

_drawState = new BowSimpleDraw(this,_animator);
_loadState = new BowSimpleLoadArrow(this,_animator);
_idleState = new BowSimpleIdle(this,_animator);
_switchState = new BowSimpleSwitch(this,_animator);
_pullState = new BowSimplePull(this,_animator);
_shootState = new BowSimpleShoot(this,_animator);

void At(ISimpleState from, ISimpleState to, Func<bool> condition) => _BowSM.AddTransition(from, to, condition);
Func<bool> DrawToLoad() => () => _drawState.AnimationDone;
Func<bool> LoadToIdle() => () => _loadState.AnimationDone;
Func<bool> LoadToSwitch() => () => CurrentArrowType != _nextArrowType;
Func<bool> IdleToSwitch() => () => CurrentArrowType != _nextArrowType;
Func<bool> SwitchToLoad() => () => CurrentArrowType == _nextArrowType;
Func<bool> IdleToPull() => () => _holdPrimFire;
Func<bool> PullToIdle() => () => !_holdPrimFire;

At(_drawState,_loadState, DrawToLoad());
At(_loadState,_idleState, LoadToIdle());
At(_loadState,_switchState, LoadToSwitch());
At(_idleState,_switchState, IdleToSwitch());
At(_switchState,_loadState, SwitchToLoad());

At(_idleState,_pullState, IdleToPull());
At(_pullState,_idleState, PullToIdle());

[ashen yoke]

this is so verbose im failing to parse

i guess

https://github.com/ashblue/fluid-behavior-tree

this is an example i keep bringing up

[opal cargo]

Ouh, Behavior Trees

[ashen yoke]

but you dont have to go far

the unity animator is a fsm in a pure sense

transitions etc are objects, with conditions, params are objects

everything is abstracted

[opal cargo]

Boy that escalated quickly 😄

[ashen yoke]

i wont bring its api because its fubar, but in general its a good example

[opal cargo]

Hmm, will take a look as well

Are there any GDC talks you can recommend for my how player components work together best practice thing?
Still feel I can make this simpler to use. Already have over 10.000 lines of code just for Kinematic CC and Camera o.O

[ashen yoke]

if i seen some i wont remember which ones

[opal cargo]

Anyway, thanks to @covert turret I already know that my implementation isn't so wrong and thanks to you I will look into the FSM stuff again a bit deeper.
Do you have any recommendations for animations and movement? Think I'm lacking experience there and getting to a point, where this is valuable.
Next I want to implement some Bow mechanics and see how I can combine walking and Bow usage...

[ashen yoke]

in my view detaching the transition from states is the basis of most ai systems, fuzzy logic, utility ai, bts, goap

most differ just in the way transitions are implemented, utility selectors, pathfinding for goap

[covert turret]

walking and shooting? sounds like you need animation layers or masks

[opal cargo]

Yeah heard about GOAP before, don't know if I should refactor my huge HFSM though

[opal cargo]

Guess I have to learn what those are first 😄

For now I just import some mixamo animations and play them in my Root-States with some Blending for moving left/right/front/back

[covert turret]

yeah, animation is a whole different area

[opal cargo]

And also I have to learn how to couple my first person camera with those animations, seeing the skull of my character is distracting 😄

Some nice tutorials for this topic at hand? Just to get an overview

[gray mural]

what is the best way to make a script that allows you to stretch a ui panel?

I have a method that returns a vector that shows if panel can be stretched. E.g. (1, 0) is right stretch

do I have to store previous mouse position to find mouse direction?

[ashen yoke]

store initial mouse click, each frame you get delta from it

adjust size based on that delta

[gray mural]

and delta is currMousePos - prevMousePos ?

[ashen yoke]

no, initial vs current will give you distance from start of drag

[covert turret]

I watch this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J8RPIaO2Lc&t=174s

[ashen yoke]

you need to keep the initial position as a point of reference

[covert turret]

goes in depth with the functionality for everything without being a bore

[gray mural]

but how do I know where mouse moves then?

[ashen yoke]

or rather, the initial offset

[gray mural]

player can make a panel both bigger and smaller

so initial offset won't help here?

[covert turret]

why not? you can find the difference in size

with initial offset

[ashen yoke]

where A initial offset, orange is after mouse move, red is the total vector used to adjust size

[gray mural]

I see, but how do I find that red vector?

it's not the same as moving a panel

[ashen yoke]

current - initial

[gray mural]

current what?

[swift falcon]

making my own vector struct and curious why this is giving a compile error ref Vector biggerVec = vec1.size > vec2.size ? ref vec1 : ref vec2;
when it lets me do something like ref Vector biggerVec = ref vec1;

[gray mural]

mouse position?

[ashen yoke]

current offset

which is mouse position + initial offset

(current position + initial offset ) - (initial click + initial offset)

[gray mural]

Vector2 offset = new Vector2(.1f, 0f);

_rect.sizeDelta = _rect.sizeDelta + offset;
_rect.anchoredPosition = _rect.anchoredPosition + offset / 2f;

[ashen yoke]

whats the error?

that you cant ref in that scope?

[gray mural]

how do I convert mouse position to this vector?

[swift falcon]

Cannot initialize a by-reference variable with a value, which doesn't make sense because both returns are refs

[ashen yoke]

try decomposing that whole ternary into an if block

it will probably explain why it doesnt work

[gray mural]

oh, probably this

_rect.InverseTransformPoint(Camera.main.ScreenToWorldPoint(Input.mousePosition))

[ocean river]

ay
is there some download for Cinemachine supported on 5.6/2017?
yes, im locked on that ancient version, i can not upgrade.

Please just provide me with an download link, thanks.

[scarlet viper]

is it wrong to make small velocity adjustments by modifying velocity directly, if i also want the thing to work with AddForce() ?

[leaden ice]

It depends if your changes are additive or if they're overwriting completely

[knotty sun]

https://makinom.com/makinom-1-hub/plugins/cinemachine-plugin/

[scarlet viper]

theyre modifying local Y axis to make the thing more even towards the ground

not touching X and Z

nevermind i confused the axes because i havent coded it yet but the purpose of it is to make it stop flipping

[severe sable]

Anyone know how I should go about creating an attachpoint system that allows blocks to be attached in a snap grid style system? I am wondering how to implement this without having to do tons of percision editing of each new prefab of a block or shape.

I have streamlined much of my block implementation system, to make it simple for me to add new content, I've done this prior with many abstract classes, maybe it would be worth making classes for each shape with predefined attach points? That is the best solution I can think of, but if anyone has any other ideas do tell!

[steady moat]

Ideally, each block will perfectly fit the allocated space it is in. In other words, each block most fill a X meters x X meters space. You can have variation depending on what is around the block.

If you do that, it is trivial to "snap" a block. Simply set its position to the closest position.

[leaden ice]

The simplest approach is using empty GameObjects to indicate the attachment points/orientations

assuming they're not just at regular grid intervals..

[agile elbow]

why after watching testing 10 ads, the PC starts to froze?

[severe sable]

How could I do this with fancy sprites though, like lets use an antenna dish for example, there may be a flat surface to connect on the bottom, but on the sides and top, we wouldn't want attachpoints, however on the other hand I don't want blocks to be limited to cubes entirely, since I know players love making asthetically pleasing designs and that is quite hard with too simple geometry

[severe sable]

I was considering doing this but having to do it for all prefabs sounds like a decent bit of work. I am kinda trying to approach this to mimmize the amount of time I spend in future adding new content

[leaden ice]

how many "blocks" or whatever do you expect to have?

You can also use prefab variants to cut down on the amount of work if you have for example many blocks with the same shape but different skins or something

[steady moat]

Using cube will make everything way easier and a lot less buggy.

[leaden ice]

anyway if not done manually, you'd have to establish some rules about how it works

[severe sable]

Lets say maybe a hundred or so, but I want to allow for players to add their own and for me to add new content easily, its the best buisness practice to let players make their own content

[steady moat]

It is not really the "best business" practice. In fact, I think it is a terrible business practice for small budget game.

And, people can still mod your game same if you do nothing.

[agile elbow]

why after watching 10 testing ads, the PC starts to froze?

[steady moat]

We do not know stop. Stop spamming

[agile elbow]

I just want an answer...

[steady moat]

Nobody knows what is your issue.

[agile elbow]

at least do u know how to switch from that 10 seconds unity ads videos, to an actual ad from a game?

[steady moat]

No.

Ask in appropriate channel. This is the code channel.

Also, there is probably a forum for that.

And a documentation for sure.

[agile elbow]

is here a unity ads channel?

[steady moat]

There is a #archived-unity-gaming-services

[severe sable]

Fair enough It's probably opinion based, but considering I'm a one man band, it's a pretty good idea to allow for players to create content themselves as everyone benefits from that, they get to express their creativity, and enhance the experience for other players, and I don't need to devote ludicrous amounts of time to adding trivial features and can focus on making the core gameplay loop and mechanics better and more engaging

[thorn glade]

so i have an Item script

with a hitbox, pickup, trigger and all that stuff

but i want to easily be able to change what every item does

so i dont have to make SwordItem, PickaxeItem, BoxItem

instead

i want to be able to write functions in the inspector

or just call a function to another script

[scarlet viper]

if i raycast from the top to the bottom, and hit a plane with default rotation, then will the normal of that hit be (0, 1, 0) ?

[thorn glade]

is default (0,0,0)?

[thorn glade]

but yeah im pretty sure

[prime sinew]

what is this?

[prime sinew]

sounds like... an interface

[thorn glade]

not an interface

more of firing a function to another script when a function is fired

or a method

are they the same thing?