hey ive been trying to make a restart button to restart a scene in 2d. ive looked for tutorials to do it and none of them have worked. (i am fairly new to unity) anyone have a tutorial they can link me to do so?
#archived-game-design
heady heath
indigo violet
@dense talon hey thank you for the answer! Yeah the idea is to be precise with as little text as possible 🤔 thanks for the suggestions!
winged lichen
hello, I'm a unity newbie picking up the basics through youtube tutorials. how are levels made? I know ProBuilder exists for prototyping, but what do people usually use for finalized maps? I was thinking something with corridors like an Unfortunate Spaceman map
cold rover
@teal kindle That looks sick. Like something out of some lovecraft story
dense talon
@winged lichen The beauty of game development is that you can make anything (almost) however you want.
As long as you keep track of score and load things in a proper manner, you can have a "gameplay scene" where you load levels based of data and build them straight up in that scene or just load a prefab in which is your level.
Many people like working with scenes being "one level", but it's not mandatory.
I prefer loading levels in using prefabs usually and having one game scene if the gameplay is not vastly different between the levels and it's just the map that keep changing.
I build most of my maps straight in unity and import 3D objects or 2D sprites to make the complete thing and store them inside a prefab instead of working with an entire map in a 3D environment like Blender for example. I like the flexibility from small "lego blocks". But you could literally do most static objects straight up in Blender and just import the entire object and scale it to the right size...I just don't personally like doing so.
I usually mock levels up in something like MagicaVoxel for 3D levels so I know what general shape of a level I want. In 2D I mostly just paint on the tilemap until I feel okay with it.
End of map kind of things could be portals, doors, corridors, stairs, get sucked into a dimension, get eaten by another monster...I don't know, could be anything really. It doesn't matter much as long as it fits the games design.
balmy yoke
is story-writing and lore cosidered a part of game design??
open saddle
Yes
distant eagle
Hows this widget looking for when you glance at equipment on the ground?
I was thinking instead of having built-in damage amounts, weapons would scale off of stats to varying degree with A or S being highest.
I may add another line of text around the 'Press [E] to equip' to differentiate offhand and main hand
teal slate
looks nice
although idk if diamonds are the best way to go, the text looks kind of cramped
unless you scale them up a bit
distant eagle
Good point, i am wasting a bit of horizontal space.
I do want to make some signature shape that represents each of the stats without needing text.
The skill point system should make it pretty clear when its ready
hard kite
Hi what would you do to shooters enemies when thereis a cinematic in your top down game?
they do keep spawning at a constant rate
lilac shoal
@distant eagle the widget doesn't look clear at the first glance, ie what do the colors mean? Does red mean that a requirement not met? What is -?
Yeah, maybe combine all the stats into a circular widget somehow?
humble briar
here's the AI for my game so far
(assets are place holders)
it just patrols and shoots the player when it's in view
does anyone have any suggestions to make the AI more interesting?
what other kind of AI should I add?
cold onyx
you can give it some kind of Reaction Time to act a little bit like a human
humble briar
Whats that?
cold onyx
when the player is spotted, you make it pause and face towards the player then after a second it starts attacking
distant eagle
^ That, and add some smoothing to the rotation. it looks good so far
cold onyx
Question
deft patio
I have skill "reload" in my game, which is basically the casting process. Shooting the skill is another action (done by click)
So u reload 5 "charges" (bullet), then you can shoot fireball 5x
So far so good
But then i also want the classic FPS weapon reload
So you use a gun and cast fireball, then it wont use the weapon bullet
But if you use a gun and use a skill called, piercing shot (which say u can charge only 1), it also uses the bullet in the cartridge
To compensate with the added complexity, both type of reload uses the same hotkey (R).
But well, just asking if any other game has something like this, some comments/critics, etc
teal slate
If I want to prevent the player from climbing a wall with wall jumps (essentially getting free jumps) should I put a limit on the number of jumps or push the player far enough away from the wall that they can't wall jump off the same wall without losing height?
open saddle
@teal slate The latter sounds less jarring
don't lessen the height after each wall jump, just make it zero height gain on the last one
teal slate
I went with the second one, I think it works well. After messing with some numbers, you don't really lose height but you don't gain any either, so I think it'll demotivate players from staying on the wall
drowsy falcon
Hei 😄
What do you use for UI design? I am looking to create menus, HUDs, dialogs etc. I'm used to figma for vector stuff and I've done photoshop in the past before vector was cool.
What is used today is 2020?
dense talon
Anything you are comfortable with TBH @drowsy falcon
Many people are currently using Aseprite for pixel art UI, but if you wish for a vector or more high def looking one there is a large mix of options that are good.
dense talon
I mean, you can even make a 3D UI TBH, there is no difference in 3D and 2D in unity other than the camera settings.
I use 2D objects in a 3D world for my menus in another project.
And if you wish to do 3D objects for a menu or HUD you can do that too using any tool, MagicaVoxel for quick cube looking 3D objects, otherwise a lot of people use Blender for 3D models.
true trench
To me it seems like 2D makes a slight difference but only with the default objects?
jovial chasm
open saddle
quaint yoke
I'm trying to create a 2D pixel game but I'm not too sure how these sort of games should be setup. So I know there's like 8x8 or 16x16 or 32x32 and these are the popular ones. So for example if I went with 32x32, does this mean that each of my tiles have to be 32x32? Like a ground tile, a wall, a patch of grass, etc, I assume yes. What about for other things like people or objects? Do they have to be the same size or should they be a multiple of that size (like a person could be 64x64) or does it not matter at all? Like I'm a little confused on how to get the dimensions of everything right
humble briar
quaint yoke
Oh okay thanks!
tepid crater
Not 100% sure if this is the appropriate channel for the question
But I'm making a one step from eden like game and I'm attempting to design a map system atm
I wanted to try out procedural generation and make my own concept for the map system and came up with something like this
the blurred "shop" on the right is a temp sprite for the boss tile for the world, and the other shop tile is the actual shop tile
the white tiles spread everywhere is just placeholder sprites until i draw them up, and each white tile could be a battle or other things
so for now im generating this map by randomly choosing a index on the map (with certain restrictions) and then generating a path of random length between 2-4 to the shop, then generating a short path from start to end, then finally generating the remaining path from shop to end
the black lines show each route the player can take
my problem now is that I want to somehow make this a bit better?
maybe bias shorter lengths for more difficult battles, longer paths might hold certain bonus levels, etc
and i just need a little push in the right direction to see what I can come up with in the end
ornate bolt
Im making a Visual Novel, but I don't want the game to be just 40 hours of left clicking. I'm working on breaking up the VN segments with a bit of gameplay/overworld.
Open question, do you ever feel like segments that break up the pacing in a game are bad? Like you'd rather get back to doing X instead of being forced into a change of pace? What games change up pace well, and what games don't?
dense talon
@tepid crater @ornate bolt
Both of these questions are very subjective and I think depending on the person you ask there will be different answers like every time.
Some people like it casual other likes it difficult.
Some people like to be focused on the story while some people like a bit of a break in the story elements.
What I think is most important is to make the game like you want it, do you think it would work best in one way over the other, then make it so.
Then you let people try it and see what they think about it.
After that, you iterate, there is no set format that always work for everyone when it comes to these things.
BUT if you want my opinion, I prefer games to be difficult and to have breaks inside a story since I have a low attention span. But this doesn't necessarily mean that I am your perfect audiences for your games though.
ornate bolt
very subjective
totally lol. I'm asking for yall's personal thoughts on the subject, I wanna know what people think
deft needle
Can I get someone's opinion of this? I made mechanics for a "rage game" the likes of getting over it, jumpking, pogostuck etc, but I need some tips on how to design the game itself
ornate bolt
have some hurtzones maybe? maybe have some square slots that the player needs to slide into perfectly in order to make it through
quaint schooner
i feel like
that ability and with the simple level design you have now
it might be too easy
ornate bolt
yeah, i do think the game would benefit from some additional mechanics. though, rage games are sorta basic in mechanics anyways
sooooo idk lol
quaint schooner
the dash is a bit too op
maybe a delay would benifit
so that they cant just fly up
quaint schooner
guess so
ornate bolt
if the world is built around the ability, it's not bad methinks
cold onyx
Guys im not really good at using blender how did you all learn blender easily
proud jasper
Please help him guys
cold onyx
did you watch all of his parts or just the one part
quaint schooner
entire series
cold onyx
damm
cold onyx
Thank you
quaint schooner
i was saying to watch the tutorials
you mong
okay?
doesnt change that your a mong
right
yknow when you said
you too
that means you agree that your a mong
then your comeback doesnt apply
what
ok?
"doesnt change that your a mong"
you reply "Yes, but i actually not a mong" you agreed that your a mong but also disagreed in the same sentence
oh well
cold onyx
f anyone uses blender plz dm me i have a problem and its really bugging me
hard fog
@cold onyx Don't cross-post and pick relevant channel to ask #🔎┃find-a-channel , asking an actual question would help as well
celest burrow
Please can someone tell me HOW TO COME UP WITH A GOOD FUCKING GAME IDEA
like somebody came up with fall guys
Like how do you come up with something like that???
proud jasper
Hey guys my friend Texlah Games I’m in the process of making a game called Future West, we could use some help so if anybody is interested join the server
If u r interested in helping dm me
celest burrow
This isn't a recruitment channel. @proud jasper
proud jasper
Is there any server that could help us out you think?
cold onyx
yeah becuase i need help
proud jasper
If u guys know someone that could help develop please dm us
north lotus
yeah maybe try #archived-works-in-progress
celest burrow
Once again, this isn't a recruitment channel.
proud jasper
Ok
wise horizon
Please can someone tell me HOW TO COME UP WITH A GOOD FUCKING GAME IDEA
@celest burrow well inspiration comes in all sorts of places.
But ultimately, dont beat yourself up to make the next devil may cry. pen and paper some weird off the wall idea and then just do it. Maybe ou'll find your actual inspiration as you dev and test that.
tepid crater
trynna come up with a good map system for a rogue like game atm
kind of taking inspiration from slay the spire for the map system, where there multiple paths with different choices
but I dont want to just copy it ofc, i want to implement it differently sort of and im just having some trouble if anyone wants to give me some resources or some inspiration on how i should proceed
in case if youre wondering how slay the spires map works
craggy kindle
i just learned to use a reflection probe, so i placed it inside my scene
but notice how the door of the house reflects on the side of the car
while it is behind the wall
the wall is like completely ignored
while my probe goes through the whole scene
any ideas?
deft patio
I have dual wield. To make it simple, when you click to attack, you swing using right-left-right-left in cycle
But then i'm thinking of a situation where u wear a long sword on right, and a super short knife on left
If the chosen hand to swing is hard coded R/L/R/L, then the player is forced to move closer every 2nd hit..
I guess the solution is to make which hand u use to swing controllable, but i also dont wanna add too much complexity in the controls. Right click is already used for something else (click to move)
distant herald
Great work! To help you solve this, you can consider real life scenarios - Probably nobody can hold and swing a long sword with one hand, other than other character races like giants/Orcs/Golems etc. So you can restrict dual wield once player selects long sword. Another way to do this is if you want to keep long sword in dual wield, instead of having the RLRL cycle hard-coded, you can use the 'Heavy' and 'Light attacks' which are widely used in Assassin's Creed and fighting games. You click and hold the Left Mouse, player uses long sword. Click and Release Left Mouse, player uses the short knife.
But usually, LM and RM are used for separate weapons. Like RM for mostly heavy or ranged weapons like an axe or a bow and arrow. LM for the regular favourite weapon like a sword or punching with fists.
deft patio
Hmm yeah. LM/RM is definitely the most intuitive solution
But the thing is the game is not a third person shooter, it's close to Guildwars2 in controls where RM is still the "rotate camera"
Actually GW2 is 1 of the main influence, but GW2's hotkey is hardcoded to be 1,2,3 for main hand, 4,5 for off hand
This works nicely and simple for the players
My hotkey is in contrast, a "free" hotkey where u assign ur own skills there
But... my other influence is moba/dota, where the skill set is hardcoded 1 2 3 4 (well, QWER default)
But at the same time i dont like the "hero skillset" concept and that's why i'm leaning towards GW2(or any other "free" rpg) in terms what weapon combination u choose to equip
So yeah.. design problem.. fun!
So in short, i'm still staying away from RM as another "attack" option bcoz RM has to be rotate cam, bcoz this game caters to casuals too (the option to point click move/auto attack)
I'm considering letting go the "free hotkey" concept and opting for GW2's preset hardcoded main/off hand 12345 hotkey
But... hmm... i dont wanna give up the "free skill tree build" either
A compromise is.. maybe 1-5 is the preset hardcoded. And 67890 are the "free hotkey" ones?
Another option is to have say, CapsLock as a toggle to enter "shooter mode", on which RM is no longer camera but off hand (block if wearing shield).
But this feels unfair that u can only access offhand only by shooter mode..
torpid grotto
i just learned to use a reflection probe, so i placed it inside my scene
@craggy kindle where is the light probe located?
winged dove
My games a 2d action RPG and I'm wanting to implement fatalities/finishing moves. When a nearby enemy is low hp then you would be able to push a key to charge or jump next to them and kill them one hit with a special animation. I'm thinking of the challenges I will face, one being that both the players attacking animation and the monsters dying animation need to be perfectly synced. Also the position must be the correct distance away. Though I'm wondering about the collider, what if there are rocks or trees in the way? Or if you jump to the monster then what happens if there is a collider in the place you need to be? Then you won't be in the correct position to have the animations play out properly
deft patio
If there's colliders in the way, u have to disable the function. This is the "obstructed" check, common for skill systems
In fact, do a "prediction" check to even see if it's possible to perform it.
Or do a potential position candidate when pressing the button, to determine where the player need to position itself
As for the animation, assuming there's nothing that can stop this process, then the enemy needs to also "freeze in place" at the beginning. That enemy is considered to be dead at this point and shouldn't fidget anywhere anymore
Hi all. Another question here:
Still about dual wielding.
I'm just looking at how other games handle it for reference.
It's important that they're "simple" and intuitive for the players, even if the code under the hood is complex
Game is third person. Mouse is not locked (so it's not shooter).
Click to move or WASD option
I'm considering shooter mode (it solves many problems) but afraid that these "different modes" can overwhelm players
Here's 1 that i found, although minecraft is FPS. I can definitely use some mechanics from here
https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Dual_wielding
winged dove
I think swining left,right,left,right repeating is probably the best idea
swinging*
how much shorter range are we talking with the dagger compared to a long sword?
i don't see it bad if you had to move closer to swing the dagger, and would most people have 2 swords instead of 1 dagger and a longer sword?
chrome barn
anyone got some hyper casual mobile game ideas? dm
dense talon
Do people actually just give away their game ideas?
dense talon
That's what I thought. I would never give away my game ideas without getting involved myself x)
stark stag
Does anyone have ideas for a game. I am trying to think of something, but I don't know....
Also if anyone could help me that would be nice too
ancient mortar
stark stag
Something that can be played with a controller.
But I want to focus on graphics, because every other game I try to develop I miss out on the looks
cold onyx
how do i make an animated skybox? - by this i mean i would like to have a skybox which has moving stars and a moving floor
torpid void
Maybe someone knows what is the best way to make farming plot and it's stages like in hayday ? should crops and farming plot be seperate objects ?
dim ferry
Anyone able to check out a game my developer made, that I’m taking over, and let me know someone about the graphics that I’m utterly stuck at?
craggy kindle
Is it possible to export this from blender to unity somehow? i dont know how to create the same material from that texture
deft patio
In my skill system, i have a "GetOverride" which gets a different skill depending on the weapon u use
But, gosh, the amount of calls this thing gets. For UI icon, checking cast range, and so on
Anyone have something like this, and how/where do u cache this override?
lilac shoal
@deft patio maybe you could memoize it somehow?
blazing patrol
can someone have a look at my code i am making an fps movement script and my jump isnt working anyone have any ideas thank you 🙂
open saddle
deft patio
@lilac shoal Yeah got caching sorted
Now i need some comments..
So as i mentioned, i have "variants" when u cast skills
They're:
- For non unit target skill (point ground, aim), some skills have the "unit variant". Say if it's normally a straight projectile, if u cast it to a unit, it'll do a homing projectile instead
- Weapon variant. Weapon attack generic is basically this. 1 skill hotkey slot for melee, but when changing to bow, it's projectile etc
- Directional. Moving towards the opposite when weapon attack, will do parry instead
- Right click variant. This is only for weapon skills, to use your off-hand weapon to attack. If press back + right click and press shield, that's how u actually put up ur shield to block
Now, i'm considering adding the last type of variant: right click skill (this means, not for "off hand weapon" usage. This is specifically for non-weapon skills).
But still looking for example skills that might need this
Say i have Drain which drains hp, maybe the right click drains mana/stamina instead?
FrostArrow left = more damage + slow. right = less damage + freeze
Generally if single offensive, left is more damage, right is more debuff
Any more good ideas?
dense talon
@deft patio The alternative fire is a nice one, but I think it could be tricky to have that mandatory for all spells you create. But then again, don't even know what type of game this is. There are so many ways to create skills in game development, like combined elements, combined skills, skills effecting environments, buffs, de-buff.
And then on top of that it matters how you select the spell itself, if it needs to be fast, pretty or calculated.
Item effects could take part in changing spells/skills and objects could literally change the element of said skills/spells
I don't know, it's very hard to give advice to this because you can literally do anything when it comes to skills, some games even have a "world wide" damaging spell basically, so there are no limits.
deft patio
I have the core system ready. It can author limitless complexity already: melee taking into account weapon/passive onHit effects, lingering area of effect that drains hp to the caster, chain reactive skills/projectiles, etc
Im just thinking about the "variants". Bcoz in the end i dont want the game to be a 30 different skills per character.
I want just at most 5-6, but each can be triggered in different ways for different situations
The main influence is dota. For the skill system itself, AND the variants:
Zeus LightningBolt can target ground as well as hitting unit target,
Tidehunter Gush becomes aim targeted projectile (from a single target unit) after getting aghanim's upgrade,
Tiny Toss, from limited to targetting unit, to be able to target ground after an upgrade, etc
deft patio
it could be tricky to have that mandatory for all spells you create
It wont be for all skills, only some
Right now there's only rightclick = offhand, for weapon skills. But for non weapon skills(fireball, buff/debuff, AoE), i'll need more ideas
marsh wigeon
we are still looking for a modeler for a hobby MMORPG project.
Has been in development for 3 months with a 6Man team
dense talon
A hobby MMORPG?
You guys must be young to have that much time to spare...
marsh wigeon
We have preprogrammed a lot over the years. The thing that will take the longest for us is modeling and designing the world
humble briar
so I have a top down melee game
I'm thinking about having procedural levels
my question is what's a good object to have in a room that the player can interact with?
like something to help them?
(I might have health kits)
but other than that I can't think of anything that will fit
like explosives or something wouldn't fit my character
my character is just going to have a sword
oak summit
I've never done any serious map building before, but now I am going to start a project where I do not know what I should import from blender. What sorts of assets should I import from blender vs. would should I model using unity's tools?
dense talon
@oak summit Any item that you can't make easily, probably blender.
Unity modeling is not really great, so unless you are trying to make unreal tournament from 99....probably blender.
oak summit
ok, thank you
Do you also have any idea on have I can keep things to scale coming from blender to unity?
dense talon
Set some standard measurements, like how big is a person is. The same type of practice as you would with pixel art.
"The character is 80 pixels tall, so a door should be roughly 100 to fit this human"
I use a voxel editor for one of my game's and then it's rather easy since everything is in blocks.
When it comes to 3D you kind of have to go by feeling., especially regarding the small objects, it's more about the proportions of the item than how big it is compared to other items, since you can just scale it.
oak summit
Cool, thanks for the help!
vast surge
when makeing a game with levels is it better to use 1 scene for all the game or use diffrent scenes for every level
dense talon
it's a personal preference IMO @vast surge .
I prefer keeping one scene per type of gameplay. so lets say you got different gamemodes that uses vastly different movement controls, then I would switch scenes, otherwise I would just load the level from prefabs.
Keeping it clean and not much of reloading everything over and over again.
winged dove
If it's an open world type game then I would do one scene, if it has levels like mario then I would have multiple scenes
deft patio
Ok another idea request:
I'm implementing toggle click skills. U know, hold click to active, let go to deactivate
I only have Parry in mind, but really, there must be other skill ideas that falls in this category?
Oh, i'll also have a button toggle, which is a bit different.
Button toggle is like toggling aura, self buffs. It's important that the skill itself is self target, so there's no external dependency.
Click toggle is like Parry, and no other skill is allowed to be used while the click toggle is active
deft patio
AH!
Lasers!
Of course
lilac shoal
@deft patio how about grappling gun pulling an enemy?
rustic tide
Which do you guys usually prefer better for when health reaches 0; game over or level restart?
hot bobcat
That's not a decision to be made independent... Or you make it before you even design other mechanics
I like the death mechanic that fits the other mechanics
deft patio
@lilac shoal
If the grappling is target independent, then yea can work
I just wanna stay away from 2 way interaction for the toggle skills, bcoz if the target escapes and i'm still holding click, that's another part of the behavior
But well, maybe i can manage that too..
cold onyx
Which do you guys usually prefer better for when health reaches 0; game over or level restart?
@rustic tide I like both lol just add them both but if i had to choose then level restart
cold onyx
Does anyone want to chill in a discord call with eachother while we are making our own seperate games so that we can like ive eachother tips if one needs them
cold onyx
@blazing patrol please use code blocks or hatebin. screenshotting code is not cool.
feral rock
does anybody know where i could buy a 3d model of scp 049
mighty nymph
Hey guys anyone has a good article about how to design values in a game like calculing how much cost an upgrade of level how much this level up the damage that it brings and how the hp monster increment with level and the rewards of killing him ?
open saddle
Trail and error really
mighty nymph
?
open saddle
What you want are values that correspond to game feel
The only way to get these values is by testing and trail and error
Keep changing the values until you get the one that feels best
lilac shoal
@mighty nymph I remember there were some examples of that using Google spreadsheets in the book by Jeremy Gibson Bond named Introduction to game design, prototyping and development
mighty nymph
Thanks
north gyro
hello, how to use a spot light cookie in urp ?
open saddle
This channel is for game design theory, not for practical implementation @north gyro
north gyro
oh sry
cold onyx
do i need to make this whole terrain to paint grass one my small scene?
clever echo
heyooo folks. I'm trying to turn the concept of "Fail Faster and Follow the Fun" a bit more actionable than just a mantra
I've been toying with this framework that targets specially the later part, "Follow the Fun", since it's often the most ambiguous one
what do you guys think?
I pulled from the Theory of Fun book and a bunch of devs interviews for those 4 questions
-Systematic Emergence is the one people seem to sometimes struggle with the meaning, but it's just the idea that your dynamics can influence one another to generate emergent gameplay moments
leaden crag
what do you do when you're out of game ideas that you can reasonably make within the time you have and your experience.
spice tundra
You could go with the Mario technique: find a single mechanic (for example jumping across rotating platforms) and then see how many different ways you can implement it and how each implementation changes gameplay (like mixing fixed and rotating platforms, multiple rotating platforms, platforms that rotate out-of-sync, platforms with their point of rotation at different areas, platforms that rotate at different speeds, platforms that rotate in different directions, platforms that only rotate when the player is touching them, platforms that only rotate when the player isn’t touching them, platforms that rotate around motionless obstacles, obstacles that rotate around rotating platforms, etc.)
Taking this iterative approach also allows for you to scaffold skills (e.g. learn how to deal with one mechanic before introducing a slightly more difficult one). This also gives players a sense of mastery and progression.
Remember, this strategy works with all types of games: Portal, Final Fantasy Tactics, Advance Wars, Super Mario Bros, Celeste, Candy Crush and Resident Evil all use structures like this.
cold onyx
I find it hard to make anything actionable especially since fun is highly subjective.
It sounds nice and flashy but to me it is literally as stated above a mantra that lacks actionable substance.
spice tundra
Worry about making something you find fun. Then you know there at least 1 type of person will enjoy it.
🤷🏻♂️ If there was a concrete rule for producing fun, we wouldn’t have so many theories about it.
cold onyx
To be clear Zen my comment was in regards to what hugo mentioned a bit above.
spice tundra
Ah, I see. My mistake 🙂 I’ll leave my comment just in case there’s someone who may benefit from it. Sometimes it’s nice to know other people struggle with things we struggle with ourselves.
dense talon
@clever echo I mean, the whole point of "Fail fast & follow the fun" is to make iterations of a game or even several new games until you find a hit with your audience. It's not a linear path for me at all. If you add more "fun" in your game, it can actually harm your game too.
A lot of games have a tendency to overcomplicate themselves and in turn just make it more annoying to play, some games are just better off being simple. This also largely depends on your audience.
So involving that chart without already knowing your audience is pointless really. There are so many aspects of what makes a game fun and I would never dare narrow it down to a chart...but you can always try with your team and see what they have to say, it might make sense to them.
In my opinion, "follow the fun" is representing the players action in your game. Study them while they play it, see what they find is funny, listen to what they think could make it more fun and then use that info in the next iteration.
clever echo
Thank you for the feedback @dense talon
rugged basin
Hey guys, so im making a 2d game (kinda like stardew valley perspective).
When building maps, is it better to draw all the sprite sheets,export into unity and build the map using tile palette, or is it better to draw the maps using something like aesprite and then just add collision/interactable objects in unity
hard fog
You can mix. Use layer with tiles for things you need to swap
cold onyx
hey guys, so when i have my cylinder on a terrain, the bottom part of it falls throught the terrain
it has colliders and everything
spice tundra
@cold onyx Do you have a RigidBody attached to it that occupies the exact same size and shape?
weary thicket
Do you start it sticking into the terrain?
azure valley
Hi guys, interested in hearing your level design workflow - if I'm already comfortable with blender, is there any reason to use probuilder at all? Even to prototype? Considering that importing a .blend file will update on the fly
wild sandal
Id be willing to pay someone if they can help me focus and make a design doc
paypal
I just need to know what I have to do
dense talon
@azure valley I think you might find more answers in 3D actually. I personally build all my games using procedural generation.
But the good part about ProBuilder is that it's fast and simple, if you enjoy more advanced features I would stick to Blender.
@wild sandal Tried just using Trello for adding tickets and so on?
It helps me focus at least to know what I should be working on.
azure valley
@dense talon thanks, I ended up finding the 3D room afterwards haha.
cold onyx
any way I can improve this? or is it good enough?
gritty olive
I'm trying to come up with a mechanic for a side project I want to start, but I'm not sure how to think about this problem. What is the design process you guys use to develop the mechanic in a creative sense?
I'm trying to come up with a mechanic for a side project I want to start, but I'm not sure how to think about this problem. What is the design process you guys use to develop the mechanic in a creative sense?
To give more context, I'm trying to make a game for mobile platforms as well pc, it's going to be 3D, and its based on heists, I want to make something like strategy payday (if this makes any sense), but i'm not sure how to make a mechanic that its intuitive to play on mobile and not to blend also
dense talon
@gritty olive To become a good mobile games developer takes time and effort since the way people control a mobile phone is vastly different between people compared to how people use a keyboard and mouse. And the way you play games on a mobile phone is usually way more casual compared to PC games. Just a quick glance at the top 50 games in the stores and you will understand the general idea of what games are mostly played. 2D or 3D doesn't really matter too much, it's how you use the controls and how you display the UI that end up being the most important.
It's not an easy subject either since "intuitive" is specific to your target audience, there is no specific secret formula that always work. 😅
But I would probably look into stealth games on mobile for a heist game to get some ideas for mechanics. They seem to be the closest to what you wish to make. Payday is technically a stealth game if you 100% a map, but you can for sure end up in tricky situations.
wraith terrace
Hiya, I'm looking for the best software to use to design simple characters and background etc to be able to create a pc game if anyone has any recommendations.
hard fog
Inkscape for vector drawing, Krita, GIMP, Blender for 3d, are all free.
rugged basin
hey guys ,so I drew a simple map in aesprite but when I uploaded to unity I noticed a drop in quality
is there a fix for this?
autumn lark
Yeah, change the sprite filter mode to point.
rugged basin
sprite filter mode? would that be on unity side or aesprite side
autumn lark
Unity side
Just go to your assets, select this sprite and in the inspector you will have many options you can tweak
rugged basin
ahh yea I found it
it definitely made the image much sharper and easier to look at but there's still those weird gray lines
autumn lark
try removing the compression
And make sure your game window inside unity is not zoomed in
autumn lark
Haha no problem! If you have more problems with sprites / 2d art you will get better help under #archived-art-asset-showcase
rugged basin
okay 🙂 I'll be sure to post my questions there next time!
deft patio
Hi all. I never played any Darksouls but seems many people been telling me my game's going into that direction
Just a question, is there RNG specifically in the combat?
Like, block, crit, evasion chance, damage min-max?
(Not asking about RNG in terms of item drop chance, boss Ai behavior, etc)
autumn lark
Blender is very light weight. If your computer can't run it I doubt there is an alternative. I could be wrong, though.
kind folio
i think every designer of some sort should always think of the user first
and ask this question to themselves who i am making the hardware/software for?
what i like is not relevant here
its always the user 1st
i see so many websites/games/products where they neglect this simple fact
unless ur just making the game or software or hardware for urself
you can start thinking what i like
some psychology books on human and game design books can help this negligent designers you find in plenty.
cold onyx
Trying to come up a with a good way to populate my ActionMenu for my inventory. When a player right clicks on an item in the UI, it should open a ActionMenu that has things such as Take, Equip, Drop, etc. The complexity comes in because an item could be in multiple states that each change the options in the ActionMenu. Also items can be of different types and have their own unique actions in the menu.
For example, a 'Backpack' item would have the actions 'Equip' and 'Drop' while stored in the inventory, however when worn it would change to 'Unequip' and 'Drop'. Likewise a 'Food' item would always have the options 'Eat' and 'Drop', or 'Take' and 'Eat' when not in inventory (i.e. storage container or ground)
What I'm thinking is give each item their own set of ActionMenu options (e.g. a Backpack would have { Equip, Unequip, Drop }) and then each InventoryState could have their own set of options, then the player will see the intersection of those sets. Hm, I think that's a good idea
sullen bobcat
Kind of a noob here.. so I'm trying to make a structure for my 3D level. The structure is made out of logs, I used cylinders in 3ds Max to model the structure, worked well. Now I'm trying to add the materials and am running into issues. I want the outside of the logs to have a bark material and the cut ends to have a.. cut end.. material. I tried to tackle this using UVW unwraps and specifying different materials for each part. This sort of worked however when I import into Unity, the materials don't line up properly. I feel like creating heaps of materials just to texture one single log is definitely not the most efficient way to go about it!
I have tried the Substance Painter approach but I very much struggle with understanding that software. I managed to get the log bark textured but I can't seem to define the scale or rotation of the material so it just looks like crap. If someone could give me some insight here I'd really appreciate it! Perhaps DM me so I don't miss the messages...
cold onyx
Hey uhm i need a finish line texture just black and white u know, any tips?
sullen bobcat
http://www.textures.com might have something
cold onyx
Ohh
sullen bobcat
I get a lot of my textures from here, great little site
cold onyx
Tnx!
cold onyx
Lets see
I cant find it, thanks though
Cmon shouldn’t it be like really popular, every race game needs a finish
placid rapids
@sullen bobcat You'll need to do a UV map for the bark, and for the ends. If you're just using a plain primitive shape, generated by Max, it may already be UV mapped. You could probably even edit the mesh a little bit and still use the generated UVs.
You can put everything on one texture, and use a single material if you want. You'll just have to edit your textures into a single image. Otherwise, you'll want to find out how Max attaches multiple materials to a single object and then assign the materials by face.
If you need to move the texture around or rotate it, you'll need to edit the UVs of the model.
sullen bobcat
@cold onyx You'll have to import it into your game. Depends on what you're applying the texture to ofc
cold onyx
how, where's the button?
sullen bobcat
I might suggest checking out some introductory tutorials...
sullen bobcat
@placid rapids Thanks! I managed to make it work!
spice anchor
hey im designing a main menu for my game. i was wondering, how am i able to move this image (Words & Jack) to the front of my panel
when i move it onto the panel, it's not visible as it's behind the panel
vital fractal
idk where the best channel to post this in but here it goes:
Help.
cold onyx
Hi which may result in the particle system not activating after a scene change even though it is on?
deep plinth
does this actually seem like a cool idea for a boss battle
basically you gotta stand on this seesaw that both you and the boss can tilt through a Deep Dive (one of Phishy’s moves) or the boss slamming a fist on the platform
and upon slapping both fists with your tail you need to hit the thing in the head to actually damage it
cold onyx
Fall guys
deep plinth
so is anything seesaw or physics related just fall guys now
cold onyx
Yes
deep plinth
smh it wouldn’t really even be physics based the thing would just tile 45 degrees and you’d slowly fall off if you’re not careful
cold onyx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQMHZRF867s Can i post this here? 😄
winged dove
I wouldn't be sued by the mortal kombat guys if I called an ability a fatality (it chops the monsters head off) would i?
signal shuttle
just go for it and if they send you a threatening letter or email change it
@winged dove
deep plinth
aye is this better in terms of boss design
basically Phishy is in an autoscroller thing of sorts and has to dodge attacks from the Music Monster without the ability to stop, and the only time you can hit the boss is when it flies within proximity or if you slap a certain color of music note in its face
winged dove
Good idea :-D
deep plinth
huh
I tried drawing a 3D ring donut platform thing for Phishy to run around as the boss is in the middle and attacks, but I seem to be horrible at drawing that
winged dove
In my game you can find treasure which you can sell at your house, they sell automatically after a period of time (1 per hour but the speed can be upgraded), do you think this is alright? It's basically a way to earn money slightly quicker but the problem is that you could just leave the game running and achieve the same result without bothering to upgrade the sell speed
Other options are to have all the treasure sell automatically after a level, which removes the whole item shop I wanted
Upgrading the item shop improves speed, but also the selling price which I guess is another incentive to upgrade it
Maybe you need an upgraded shop to sell rare treasure, but then the excitement of finding rare treasure early is lost since you can't sell it and make money
autumn lark
Hard to tell you what is better, you need to ask play testers for that type of thing
On paper, if the sole purpose of treasure is to work as currency and you don't have any other type of item you can sell on these shops, then it could be better to not have them in the first place (the shops).
But on practice it could be a total different beast, I think this type of thing is only you and those who are testing the game with you might know
winged dove
👍 thanks
deep plinth
Any idea on how to improve Phishy’s design??
I’m trying to go for a Kirby-esque style but I realized he doesn’t seem to fit that
While all these cutesy protagonists are all happy and full of expression Phishy’s core design concept is the lack of expression and I both love and hate that
so I’m wondering if anyone could come up with something better without breaking the base concept
the whole thing about Phishy is how he always has that blank stare and while that opens up some possibilities for being creative it also closes up some others
rugged basin
hey guys so I created a scene in my game which looks like this
but when I decided to try to build and run it
the application loads up as this
Im not sure how this works, can someone help me understand how this works? Shouldn't I be seeing this in the preview mode when working on the game in unity
autumn lark
The UI looks different in other resolutions / aspect ratios if you didn't set it up properly, inside Unity try changing the aspect ratio of your game window and you might get the same result
cold onyx
hey guys, I want to make a mobile christmas game for next christmas. Do you guys have any cool suggestions?
if you could just DM me with a suggestion or the name of a existing mobile game thats really addicting
would really appriciate it ❤️
dense talon
@cold onyx just look at the most popular games on the mobile game stores. <.<;
You can literally also google "The most popular games blabla" and get results.
That is the absolute best way to see the actually most addicting game in the world right now.
The amount of players play a big factor in these questions. 🙂
winged dove
If I added an arcade machine into my game with a basic level of space invaders where if the player gets a high score then gets a reward, would that be copyright infringement?
final bone
Not sure the right channel to ask this in but it might fit here so, I'm trying to mod an android game and managed to open the assets files and extract them but I don't have any tools to rebuild the assets file or import edits into it
dim copper
If I added an arcade machine into my game with a basic level of space invaders where if the player gets a high score then gets a reward, would that be copyright infringement?
@winged dove Don't call it "Space Invaders", and make the sprites look a little different than actual space invaders sprites. Then you should be good.
winged dove
i thought that may work, thank you !
rain saddle
anyone down to make a game with me im kinda new to unity but i know a little programming
craggy kindle
how do i make it that the brick texture is not stretched on the wall with giant scale? "Wrap mode = repeat" looked like a solution to me but it does nothing
using HDPR is that matters
here are my texture params
and material params
changing the tiling is not a solution
wow , changing UV mapping to triplanar fixed it, no idea what it does though
cold onyx
Can Someone help me make a Low Poly Wild West map]
I cant pay for one
I have all the models I just need to put it together
cold onyx
@craggy kindle triplanar is is basically mapping the texture 3 times with planar maps. X Y and Z. after that it blends the 3 with as main texture the best angle. (with the least stretching)
usually you make an 3D object with texture in a program like blender. when you do that the texture you made is going to have a specific mapping. triplanar is a universal mapping that can be used for a lot of models/textures
the more you know 😄
west surge
What can i use to make UI animations?
winged dove
Any ideas on how to give more "oomph" when a monster gets hit in a 2d game? Play hit animation, flash red etc
How to make the hit feel like a good hit
autumn lark
in addition to the things you already mentioned*, you should also make the time scale run slightly slower for a short duration of time
Kinda like when you hit someone in smash brothers
Not the "KO" moves in smash, I meant any regular hit, the delay is almost unnoticeable but it adds to the experience.
and reserve unnoticeable camera shakes to slightly stronger hits too if you can.
orchid nebula
Make it explode
gray umbra
very dumb question, can a rasberry pi actually run unity and make games?
winged dove
Thanks, love the time scale idea! My games a dungeon crawler so you will be hitting a lot of monsters, and very often.... I'll try the time scale idea but it might be slowed down more than it isn't at some points lol
dark knoll
@gray umbra https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/system-requirements.html short answer is nope
gray umbra
ok thank you
I have a pc that can easily handle unity just wondering the cheapest pc that can do it, I might try to make my own pc thats in the form of a laptop if that makes sense
fringe horizon
wise horizon
What can i use to make UI animations?
@west surge you use a tweening library.
personally I use leantween at the assetstore.
gray umbra
ok thanks
also have a friend that is going to start game development and he was asking some stuff about to make a new pc so I was looking for options that are extremely cheap, but I showed him a few pc's that he could build with a tutorial
west surge
If you ever used photoshop there is a "transform" feature where you can stretch out an image, is that possible with leantween or unity? @wise horizon
wise horizon
yes. its called scale
dark knoll
hoo that looks like shader work
no easy way to go about it but id be happy to be proven wrong
cold onyx
my character for my 2D game right now is just a rectangle, is there a way I can put a sprite/image over it or do I need to make a new gameobject?
dark knoll
add component -> sprite renderer
dark knoll
nicee
cold onyx
how do I set a background image of my game, I need it to go behind all my text and everything
its a 2d game
autumn lark
put the background in your scene, now select it in your hierarchy -> inspector -> sprite renderer -> additional settings -> change order in layer to a lower number than everything else (like -100 for example)
additionally you could just put it in a different sorting layer
uncut ocean
I want to make a fun game, any level ideas?
cold rover
I mean what kind of game specifically @uncut ocean?
dapper bronze
how can I make six items shop system? (upgraded)
chilly grotto
Ay,good morning to all. I want some help with a bakground. I am currently working on a low poly city and i have no idea how to make a background that fits with the city. Any ideas?
dense talon
@cold onyx I would certainly give it a "?/10"
I know too little about it just from this screen.
The UI looks quite cartoony compared to it's surrounding, and it's very big, potentially a phone game I guess?
cold onyx
no pc
and i is really fine suggestion that is my first game and i want to make it perfect
sharp depot
so i have multiple cameras and no idea how to specifically call on any at a time to be the main viewing point
cold onyx
cold onyx
or
bright meadow
@sharp depot have a separate gameObject to handle what the active camera should be. add all the cameras in an array, then use that gameobject to set whatever camera yo uwant to be active.
@cold onyx it's aliasing a bit too much
i usually keep antialiasing off when i play a game
but IMO i'd prefer this main menu scene to have AA
cold onyx
What is AA
spark river
prefer second picture
bright meadow
and yeah, i agree
the first one could be good
but like
not with the cell...
pattern?
i'm not sure of the word
spark river
I think first one make me a bit confuse of what the button for
bright meadow
it's not confusing for me
i just don't understand why the buttons are like that
usually in every game i play it's:
-
singleplayer/campaign
-
multiplayer
-
options
-
quit
but here 1 and 2 are inverted
bright meadow
yea definitely
n i just don't like that look 4 a PC game anyway
for a phone game it's average
narrow sierra
anyone wants to make a game with me?
vapid totem
magicalfelix
solar juniper
Too vague, so inclined to say "yes" 😁
sharp depot
thank you @bright meadow
sage flicker
hello everyone! I'm developing a project and I am trying to determine if unity will be the right tool to use for my purposes. I don't know C# yet, but I know Python, and I'm currently learning C for embedded projects on Arduino.
I'm trying to build a mockup for a Design I'm working on. I'm hoping that within unity I can:
1. script movement of many copies of a model
2. script interaction between volumes and models
3. render cast lighting from multiple sources in realtime
any advice? 🙂
spark river
definitely can do it
agile cosmos
Anyone have good articles for crafty level design tips?
cold onyx
Hello
I am making an endless car racing game
The kind of achievement i am thinking is distance travelled,with every 10^x units there will be a badge,starting with 1m,10m,100m,1km etc.
Other achievement like Near Miss,Destroy blocks etc will also be there
wise spade
a great teacher! What games did he create?
echo spade
Good, so tired of waiting for him to follow up on tutorials he said he would make and never did! >.<
spark shard
Someone can help me make a Main Menu?
mild spear
spark shard
@mild spear I need both but I donk know how gui works
dense vale
Hey guys! Can unity make RTS game? and where is the source that I can learn it for free?
fierce isle
I've found the tutorials at learn.unity.com really useful. I don't think they have one specifically for RTS, but I suspect the tower defense tutorial would have a lot of the concepts you would need. There are also a lot of free tutorials on YouTube you could search around for; I found this one for RTS with a simple Google search, though I can't vouch for its quality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnRf-Y-ZkJo
pseudo lichen
If I have two objects instantiate at the same time(Lets just call them objectA and objectB). Can object B run a script with?
private objectAController objectA;
void Awake()
{
object A = FindObjectOfType<objectAController>();
}
if they spawn at the same time, there's no issue finding one?
sullen bobcat
Not sure if this is the right channel for this..
I'm attempting to create a ring around a planet. I tried using a plane gameobject and a material with rendering mode set to Cutout, using a detail mask to cut out the ring texture. That part worked however the plane was only 1 sided. I switched to a cube, applied the Cutout material. When I set the cube's height (Y axis) scale to 0 the material no longer has any lighting and appears completely black. If I set the height to say, 0.01, the lighting works and I can see the ring however it has a very tiny edge that also appears at certain angles. Is there any way around this? Am I "noobing" here? Maybe if I make the ring as a giant sprite instead?
cold onyx
@sullen bobcat try using a plane, duplicating it and inverting the normals, or even just flipping the plane upside down. I'm not sure if there will be z-fighting but its worth a shot
sullen bobcat
I read about that method on a forum post (somebody having the same issue) It wasn't recommended for that reason among others.. for this purpose it may just work. Thx
Huh, using the Sprites/Diffuse shader actually works decently with a plane... apparently
cold onyx
If I have two objects instantiate at the same time(Lets just call them objectA and objectB). Can object B run a script with?
private objectAController objectA; void Awake() { object A = FindObjectOfType<objectAController>(); }
@pseudo lichen Awake is called once when all objects have been given identifiers but scripts are not yet enabled. => Yes.
vagrant oak
is this java?
wheat widget
C# I think
somber jolt
if i want a server to be 120 ticks, what would be the fixed timestamp in unity?
winged dove
My games going to have weapon mods, a fire mod will set them on fire briefly and an ice mod will freeze them.... What do you think should happen if you put both mods on the same weapon?
It could do some type of water damage since fire would melt ice but I have no idea what it would be
autumn turret
I am making a game about rats fighting squids. There are two types of rats one with sword that covers the area just in front of him from head to toe the other one has a gun that shoots out fast small projectiles. The squids have two types, one with a massive whip like a attack that has the distance of half the map I'm making the other squid has a gun shoots SLIGHTLY slower bullets but much larger ones. How do balance the game so that squids are not overpowerd?
winged dove
Half the map attack range is quite large
autumn turret
Well i dont want his range to be too short sinc ethen he is just a rat so i need another way to balance him. I might make the range a bit shorter
zealous harness
i know a lot of a game's design comes from photoshop but is there a alternative for photoshop if you don't have it?
cold rover
@winged dove maybe make the weapon have a smoke effect, like when it's melted and evaporated, which blinds enemies
winged dove
@cold rover nice idea 🙂 i can't think of how exactly it would work, it could surround only them with smoke/steam, blinding them and causing damage since steam is hot maybe?
cold rover
Yeah I guess
or it could create an area of steam that stays only in one spot around where the enemy is
winged dove
it's going to be an 'on hit' effect so will be happening very often, that would be a lot of steam 😆
lilac shoal
@winged dove I love how Magicka does this thing - there are a lot of interesting combinations
winged dove
ya, it was fun playing magicka multiplayer with all the different combos and effects
potent mason
So ive googled this everywhere and tried everything listed (everything that was given was from 2013 or something) however, how can i assign R2 on the ps4 controller to positive vertical axis and L2 to negative?
west flame
As far as I know you just go in the input manager, vertical, and then set joystick button x as positive, and the other one as negative, you will need to test out which number of joystick button it is though, except if triggers aren't part of the joystick button stuff, but basically everything is
shrewd summit
i know a lot of a game's design comes from photoshop but is there a alternative for photoshop if you don't have it?
@zealous harness I use krita https://krita.org/en/
spark nexus
Heyo! We just started working on a tamagotchi style game, where you take care of a robot, feed it, train it, wash it, upgrade it, all that stuff
And we wanted to have it so that you can battle using your tamagotchi creature against a friend of yours, over local network
What kind of combat system do you think would be the best for this kind of situation? There might be cases where it's not very balanced and there probably should be ways of turning a situation around, even if you are weaker than your opponent. Or winning using skill and strategy over pure stats
fierce isle
What are the stakes of the combat? Is there some sort of game-mechanical reward, or is it just a bragging-rights situation?
gray fable
Is there any one here that has experience in making Danmakus (Bullet Hell) games? I'm in urgent need of guidance.
spark nexus
@fierce isle The way it works is that you'll be preparing for combat with taking care of the robot. Kind of casual stuff you do on the toilet or while waiting. And the combat is supposed to be real combat and nice just some throwaway casual stuff. The health transfers over to the taking care part, so if you die and want to fight multiple times you'll have to stock up on medicines and food during the preparation. The reward is a positive feedback loop, you'll receive something from the defeated player as well as the game giving you free bonus stuff on top. That's stuff like upgrades, different paints to paint the robot with, swappable parts for arms, legs and torso, etc
And you can trade parts with other players over local network or bluetooth too.
There will be no dedicated servers though, so everything is decentralized and just running on the devices and between them using local networks.
cold onyx
where do i get good tree models and graphics?
spark nexus
@cold onyx that's not a game design question, ask in #archived-resources or #🔀┃art-asset-workflow
cold onyx
ok
lucid cipher
https://streamable.com/rzrn5s my first game im working on
flint tundra
quick question does anyone know why when I paint the terrain with a texture it leaves a white border like this?
acoustic marsh
It's in the texture possibky
acoustic marsh
Np
compact flicker
I have been trying for 3 hours to get tilemaps working but no matter what the palette wont load as a game object
young moon
Hey, i've got a mobile game where i stack objects on the screen.I want my camera to move up when objects reach the specific height.How can i do it?I've tried few different ways but they didnt work out well.Thanks
dense talon
I mean, depends how you measure what height the objects are on.
@young moon
If it's literally a y value you read off then you can just increase the cams y value with the same standard height value for one object.
Just have a method that returns the block with the highest y value.
young moon
Each of my objects has bones in them so i thought about getting highest bone position and then move up
and i've did it but
I couldnt figure out the function to calculate the value of moving the camera up
Becouse my objects cant go above the specific offset from one place to them becouse they will break
Idk if you understand what i mean @dense talon
dense talon
you have a standard position of the camera, right? like the amount it's off the ground at the start without any objects?
So whenever you add or remove an object from the stack, you calculate the distance between the ground and the object at the top of the pile to get the amount of units you need to raise your camera
young moon
Yes i have the standard position of my camera
And do you know what can i make to make the camera move up smoothly?
Cos when i will just add values to my camera position y it will just "jump" from one place to another
dense talon
you can use math lerp to make it smoothly move there or another option is to use "Cinemachine"
it's a plugin to make camera interactions easier
young moon
thx @dense talon
odd skiff
Is there a way to specifically remove collision between two objects and nothing else?
autumn lark
Yes, you put each object in their own physics layer and then go to edit -> settings -> physics and scroll down. There you will find a matrix where you can specify what layers can interact with what.
oak knot
hi
odd skiff
thx
winged dove
For a dungeon crawler game, what do you guys think about being able to see monsters through walls vs only seeing them in the same room?
In your experiences, what have other games done?
muted crater
I think this is the right place, but I took a look at the Brackeys' tutorial on game design. For some reason my player character goes through other objects at high velocities.
winged dove
You need to set the collision detection to continuous on the Rigidbody
muted crater
Thank you
dense talon
@winged dove I really don't care either way, it depends on the game mechanics.
If it's 3D, I don't really like seeing enemies through walls, but if it's 2D and tactical, then I can deal with both not seeing what is in my vision and seeing everything.
Both variants and fun IMO. But if you are intentionally making a harder game, I for sure would hide the enemies that are not within sight.
winged dove
There would be a performance boost if I didn't hide them since I wouldn't need to raycast, and it would seem strange seeing light sources but no enemies... Though from memory that's what diablo 2 did, I remember seeing the light source from champions hehe
I'll stick with always seeing the enemy 😊
Thanks
mystic stratus
I was thinking of finally getting down and making a game in the general direction of a fast paced 3D TPS - Bullet hell, but I can't seem to find solid examples of ones. Mothergunship was a pretty decent example, but its first person (not a huge difference, but I can't get the right feel off of it), Witch Thief was another I found which fit the criteria, but I didn't exactly like the game in itself.
If any games fitting this criteria come up to mind, please mention them, thanks!
autumn turret
Im making a game where u take the same amoint of damage u receive. How can i make it more skill based and how do i have an effective way of healing the player. If i heal the player more than they take damage then its too easy but if i dont the player dies.
opaque smelt
I have a question, I'm fairly new to unity with less than 6 months for school project purposes. May I know if it's possible to have a live player counter inside it when exporting to WebGL where it's accessed by many people?
mental minnow
Hi
Where can i download gdd of old games?
Dont say "google", cause i already digged all i could and found some fake ones... and an unreleasd aaa one
( gdd , as GameDesignDocument )
dense talon
I don't think a lot of people releases their GDD's to the public...
Because all of them are most likely not well thought out since so many things change during development.
And GDD's vary so much between the type of games you wish to make too.
fierce isle
Did you find these resources? https://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/130127/design_document_play_with_fire.php https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedesign/comments/7ze7xq/finished_game_design_document_examples/
muted crater
On the Game Over tutorial by Brackeys in the GameDev course for beginners I'm getting this error declaring a float:
Severity Code Description Project File Line Suppression State Error CS1003 Syntax error, ',' expected Assembly-CSharp D:\Users\dogsl\Cube 3D Platformer\Assets\GameManager.cs 9 Active
This is my code:
public float RestartDelay 1f;
dark knoll
public float RestartDelay = 1f;
muted crater
Thank you!
wispy bane
Any roguelikes connoisseurs in here?
I'm at the stage where I need to code an Item Randomization feature, and I'm stumped at how to do those "Unknown Potions" that can be identified and each subsequent potions of the same type are then known
Can someone point me in a direction? How you would approach that problem?
cold onyx
I found this really cool addon called Armory3D for blender today that turns IT into a game engine, i'm testing a simple first person prototype
where do i get good tree models and graphics?
@cold onyx What's your prefered 3d application ? If it's blender there's plenty of free addons that procedurally generate trees. I myself uses one named mtrees which helps you make full tree models with nodes
cold onyx
So like whenever I'm in game view my cube looks like this but it is red. Is this something to do with the lighting?
dense talon
Tried moving the light? @cold onyx
dense talon
I mean, that side is clearly in the shadows.
dense talon
The floor?
dense talon
Maybe you are too far away with the light.
cold onyx
Lemme play about with it.
dense talon
You know you can change the material of the things to not get affected by light as much and so on.
cold onyx
How exactly?
dense talon
just play around with different materials and settings until you find what you like the best
cold onyx
Okay.
I'm choosing to do this for school so I am trying to get it done. Thanks!
I turned on the emission and it worked! https://why-am-i-he.re/rX9brP
cold onyx
if im say, making a map of a pirate ship, would it be better to model the entire ship then put it in Unity and add interactables into it? or make the ship with primitive shapes all with colliders in unity
winged dove
I would do the former
Is it just a 2d image? Be much easier to just add colliders over the top where you need to
Or you can even split the sprite up into different sections
cold onyx
it would be 3D, but since i know nothing of blender im just using ProBuilder now
lone frigate
Blender has alot of tools , that you can use that will make the process easier to do
@cold onyx
I find it much easeier to use and get more stuff done
prime igloo
Could someone help me get started on my game?
lone frigate
what game ?
prime igloo
Uhhh 2d
lone frigate
like what is it about
winged dove
@prime igloo don't ask the same question in every you are in
lone frigate
start very small
winged dove
in every channel*
icy sparrow
Neat.
prime igloo
@prime igloo don't ask the same question in every you are in
@winged dove
Uff sorry
I'm hyped
lone frigate
OOF
lone frigate
Trello
icy sparrow
Like a notepad thing but with a decent UI.
winged dove
@prime igloo you should get started on the Unity tutorials on the main website
icy sparrow
Bet.
prime igloo
@prime igloo you should get started on the Unity tutorials on the main website
@winged dove
Okay, thanks :DDDDD
lone frigate
I dont think so
dense talon
There is less of a risk of clipping if you import the entire ship base into unity, but do keep in mind that big and complex objects might take a long while to render. So don't make it too complex. But I really don't know the limitations nowadays, so I would try doing it in one model and be prepared to redo the entire thing ^^; depends what type of style you go for and graphical settings @cold onyx
short ice
I enjoy using blendr for ragdoll physics games
prime moss
In unity i have set my boundries for -10 and 10. My player is in the 0 coorinates but when i press play he just teleportes to the right side around 9 coord
dense talon
Are you moving your character using code or is it just the unity physics?
cold onyx
There is less of a risk of clipping if you import the entire ship base into unity, but do keep in mind that big and complex objects might take a long while to render. So don't make it too complex. But I really don't know the limitations nowadays, so I would try doing it in one model and be prepared to redo the entire thing ^^; depends what type of style you go for and graphical settings @cold onyx
@dense talon thanks!
prime moss
@dense talon do you know that the issue could be?
full cloak
Is it a good idea to start a 1-2 year long project when you have around 10 months of Unity experience?
dense talon
@full cloak Trust your heart, I have burnt myself plenty of time scoping too big and then getting depressed when I realize I need like a team of 5 to ever get it done. :)
@prime moss Way too little information to go by, nobody would know if you fling your character using code at start, what kind of settings in unity you use or if your character is litterally a UI object adjusting itself after the screen, I've seen some crazy shit people have made in unity, can't make any assumptions nowadays x)
full cloak
@dense talon ok, thanks. I guess i'll start off small, with a kind of demo, then, if all works out, i'll expand it into something bigger
prime moss
anyway i could show you?
dense talon
Show code using hatebin that affects your character and consider looking into the settings of your character, there is a lot of things that can mess you up, like certain colliders pushing away from each other, materials making your character slide, if your character is on a moving object...etc.
The best way to find a problem like this is to debug your code and see what actually moves him, if it's not the code, there are some settings or the way you made your character interact with the map
prime moss
this shits confusing
dense talon
Well yeah, people really underestimate programming, just because it has UI like Photoshop, doesn't mean that you don't have to use some serious programming to get things to work xD
prime moss
im just trynna pass highschool haha
dense talon
People getting into unity development without any background in programming is gonna have a bad time, just saying.
Why the heck is the highscool teaching game development?
dense talon
...what?
full cloak
hahaha im so confused
prime moss
unity has a class they teach and my class are taking those lessons and unity has a pizza throwing at animals lesson
dense talon
I never had programming in highschool, I learnt like useful stuff like managing my economy and shit, what is this pizza throwing animal test?!
full cloak
My god you learn Unity at school?! That's amazing man
prime moss
its a math credit haha
dense talon
I don't know, I think this is the reason why we are plummeting in just normal survival things...
I met a person in the US that believe that chocolate milk comes from brown cows, I mean, just WTF.
Anyways, if unity has a tutorial for this you should really just follow it, bit by bit.
Very detailed.
Making a game from scratch is not super easy, yes if you are experienced you can get a game running in a couple of minutes and even make fallguys single player in like a day...but if you have no experience in development, it can be rough to understand the flow and all the bugs that pop up
full cloak
That's true, it's a very steep learning curve
There are some super good, free and in depth tutorials out there, though.
dense talon
yep, plenty, unity learn also has some good basic ones to get started
prime moss
welp im find it out by 3:00 today
edgy rampart
Dont know if this is a good channel to ask in , but does anyone have name suggestions for my game? Its a VR Very physics based Sandbox kind of game
prime moss
@dense talon sorry for that @ but can i screen share and can you help me ive been trying to find the problem but i cant...
hollow quiver
hi
i have two objects A and B both have different scripts attached to them and i want to access a var from the scripts of object A in the script of object B how do i do that #iamAnoob'
cold onyx
hi
i have two objects A and B both have different scripts attached to them and i want to access a var from the scripts of object A in the script of object B how do i do that #iamAnoob'
@hollow quiver public variables
Such as
public Rigidbody rb;
If I understand what you're saying correctly.
hot quiver
Hi,
Is there a way to import a maze into the scene procedurally
I have 6 maze models i want to import them into the scene and offset them so that they make a bigger maze
Can anyone help me with this
I dont have any experince in the software or programming and am just a student attempting to make a game
i think this is a good way for me to learn the software
hot quiver
thank you ill see
cold onyx
But change it from a city to a maze model.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask! 😄
hot quiver
thank you alot :) @cold onyx
cold onyx
🙂
hot quiver
i have modeled the maze parts in blender
in the tutorial it says to use the prefab files
i dont think .blend files would work in this case
and the code is uhm pretty old and doesnt work with the latest version
gusty ice
Hey, I need help with someting, I have made a low-poly model for my unity game (i exported on fbx format), but when I put it on unity it has a kind of smoothing. Pls help
lone frigate
hey , where can I get some people to test out my level design for my game?
cold onyx
Im looking for developers
Dm me what your good at and I'll also give more details in dms
bleak fern
How do you guys go about level design? I'm trying to make an underwater city, so I'm not dealing with terrain. Should I go with segmented props in Blender and reconstruct in Unity or the whole level in Blender and import into Unity?
winged dove
@bleak fern depends on the game i guess but i wouldn't do the whole level in blender, would be good to build props and put it all together in unity so things can be adjustable easily within unity
fringe lichen
Do you plan on using the terrain tool? You can use a sand texture and makes hills and different shapes and tuck your game objects or rocks into hill sides and such.
bleak fern
I'm referring to the actual city items, for instance the floor, the walls, etc.
It would be a bit tedious to have to use different sized floors, walls, etc. when they all have the same texture. Is there a tool for dynamically sized building blocks?
@bleak fern depends on the game i guess but i wouldn't do the whole level in blender, would be good to build props and put it all together in unity so things can be adjustable easily within unity
@winged dove Alright, I'll try this. Thanks
raw verge
Does anyone have a good tutorial on making your first 3D game?
cold onyx
@raw verge I would look into brackeys or SpeedTutor
they'll give you the basics of C# and Unity, and they're easy to understand
raw verge
@cold onyx Thanks!
foggy holly
i am making an fps but dont know where to start. can someone give me some pointers?
pastel harness
Have you looked here: https://learn.unity.com/project/fps-template
bleak fern
@foggy holly Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK57qdq_lak&list=PLPV2KyIb3jR5PhGqsO7G4PsbEC_Al-kPZ
foggy holly
@placid heath i need something compatible and uNet has been deprecated
bleak fern
Oh, bother
harsh isle
hey ..
there is an ANR ..
What is the solution.. help me
ANR "Input dispatching timed out (Waiting to send non-key event because the touched window has not finished processing certain input events that were delivered to it over 500.0ms ago. Wait queue length: 4. Wait queue head age: 5604.6ms.) com.unity3d.player.UnityPlayerActivity"
brittle quail
Hey all, I am reverse engineering Idle Miner Tycoon. I have a working equation for the price on Mineshaft Levels (Price=BaseCost×1.15('#Owned)), the curve looks good when I plug this in. However, I can't figure out how they price the next mineshafts. Does anyone have any idea?
wild sandal
Does anyone know where I can get some free or cheap ready made unityprops for a project I wanna start on?
Like, just prefabs, basic enviromental stuff for now so i can make an arena
autumn lark
Just search online for things like that: https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/prototyping-pack-free-94277
The assets store should have a lot of free model packs like that
And you could look at the pro builder as well if you wanna put something together rather quickly
shut knoll
Anyone here have experience with the graphics editor Krita?
Would it be a good starting application for basic game art versus Photoshop?
half mica
@shut knoll yeah all the basic tools are there, it sometimes crashes and has some display errors with different vectors overlapping on the same layer, but a restart fixes it.
shut knoll
Alright cool!
quaint schooner
Hi, i'm making a game for my college course, all i need to know is, when is a game considered age rated above PEGI 15, we're required to keep it portpholio friendly but my game contains some drug related content, would that warrant an above 15 classification?
dense talon
Why would you ever create a drug related game for a college course?
Short answer, yes, it's PEGI 16 and above
jagged sedge
choose
molten basalt
I don't think anyone's going to download a random text file.
Maybe share the content via: hatebin for code or other external means.
molten basalt
And then share the link here for suggestions.
vital fractal
sorry i already took a picture of it :)
deleted the message since a picture is more clear
young moon
Hey, why i can use method from other script in my update but i cant use it in any function becouse there is an object reference not set error?
quaint schooner
@dense talon its not about drugs but there is a hint to them in forms of a booster of sorts
dense talon
@quaint schooner If you never mention any form of addiction and that it's instead like a booster buff or something, then you don't need to, but if it is implied that it's like....let's say fallout is a good example, the drugs in fallout that has negative side effects and such, then most likely you will need to PEGI-16 that stuff
quaint schooner
hm alright
thanks
i think a pegi 16 is the equivalent of a EOCS Restricted i so be fine.
cold onyx
Hello,
I am trying to design racetracks for a aracade racing game.
Any resources on how to design good racetracks ?
terse ravine
if it were me @cold onyx i would just look at pics of actual racetracks as referance
analog lily
A little book about hyper casual games design, a very nice introduction to the genre ^^
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B08KWNV7QZ
noble vine
Hey guys, currently working on a 2d boss fighting game, its for a college project, was wondering if anyone had any ideas on where I could include a data structure such as a stack, queue, tree or graph? If further info is needed, ill gladly provide.
dark knoll
- queue for object pooling, especially bullets
- stack for storing a list of targets (pop when target's defeated)
- tree for dialogue
noble vine
ah ok great thank you
ill for sure use the stack and queue but how would the tree for dialogue work?
dark knoll
oh wait true come to think of it it wouldn't be a tree in the sense that you'd use it when you need faster search operations
it's just that dialogue is often stored as a tree with branches at each player choice, so conversations are done via node traversal
noble vine
ohh right i see, ok thank you again youve been very helpful
dark knoll
happy to help!
mental sable
Can anyone help me brain storm?? I really wanna take part in this game jam with the theme 'Chain Reaction' but I'm really struggling to think of anything I wish to try and do!
dense talon
Bubble pop!
mental sable
bubble pop?
dense talon
Like bubble witch saga, it was the first that came into my mind when I heard "chain reaction"
royal agate
Hello do you know tools for generate this kind of picture ?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/493511676700786708/764202855808237628/unknown.png
dense talon
@royal agate I have a feeling you have to make that image by hand and then map the values of your key binds to the texts.
royal agate
hand?
@royal agate I have a feeling you have to make that image by hand and then map the values of your key binds to the texts.
@dense talon
dense talon
Well, make it yourself. The art.
cold onyx
Is there resource from where i can understand how to build touch friendly UI ?
hallow basin
I think i may have bugged my unity game window
For some reason it focuses on Blender models
even when i launch the game
Importing completely different models doesnt help
pls help
trim totem
Dear friends.
After watching Ian Schreiber GDC Talk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-9oXiytsk&t=1541s
I would love to that his course, actually. however, my money worthless compared to dollars (less than 5 times actually)
So, I would love to find his book or some material similar from his course syllabus. Anyone knows some material that fits this?
trim totem
it about how create game balance spreetsheets, balance resources, etc
royal agate
What do you think of my GDD?
cold onyx
Its in some other language
royal agate
french
opal spire
I think it’s great, but you should have wrote in English or atleast translated first, for non French people.
royal agate
😦
dense talon
😂 How does this come as a surprise when you post it on a server where most if not all chat rooms are spoken in English?
Sure, there are some people who speak French on the server, but there are only a few that actually care about the theory of game design on the server.
cold onyx
I tried but I forgot most of my french lessons 😅
deft patio
It's a third person with hybrid movement (WASD or Click Move)
I want a context menu when pressing right click
RMB down, then up = Click Move
RMB down, then drag = rotate camera
RMB down, then LMB = alternate skill action
Good idea?
cold onyx
In which context? What kind of game? In an adventure game it wouldn´t do as much "damage" as in an arpg where a misclick could throw you back considerably. I would exclude this -> RMB down, then up = Click Move. Not a very good idea to have too many different aspects tied to this button and you might want to move the camera while moving
deft patio
You can still rotate camera while moving.
The ClickMove is on RMB up, so if u drag then the Up wont trigger ClickMove anymore
It's a slow-mid pace action MORPG/Moba
I felt the need to have the alternate skill click in situations like using the offhand weapon attack if dual wielding, or alternate effect for skills (useful to save hotkey space instead of having 2 different skills for slightly different effect)
deft patio
Hmm, i might not do the "RMB then LMB for secondary skill" thing
It's probably too weird..
What if i RMB on a unit, in a certain screen position, then that unit moves away?
Or i'm walking somewhere, then RMB on a spot. if i release RMB, will i do ClickMove on where i RMB down the first time, or on where it is on release?
Im now considering, ctrl or alt + LMB for the skill variant.
Its just much simpler
On another side note, i never really like this whole:
left click = primary action = main hand = right hand
right click = secondary action = offhand = left hand
If both main/offhand is accessed from LMB, then it also avoids this confusion
Right click can solely be for dota style control (click move or attack unit)
Hold right click on unit = show context menu. move mouse = choose menu (sims menu)
Hold right click drag on NON unit = rotate cam
cold onyx
i would keep it as simple as possible. If it can be broken then someone will break it. This means: If it´s not really needed keep things that are used often apart. Especially if you plan for a combat focused game. In adventure style gaming with slow pacing it´s forgiveable to misclick but you don´t want that in combat.
deft patio
Hmm
Ill simplify the question:
In my game, right click is already for ClickMove
Left click is for attack/skills
Whats my option for something like "secondary attack"?
Ctrl/alt/shift left click? Is this too weird?
cold onyx
Hi there, currently writing my GDD and I would like to hear some input from you guys. It´s WIP
spark river
hold 1 or 2 or 3 for different skill?
deft patio
Alternate skill is like right/left hand swing tho
So either are meant to be quickly accessible
dense talon
@deft patio Diablo uses skills at the location of the mouse pointer but you instead click 1,2,3 etc. Just instantly fire it just as if you clicked any mouse button.
Also, could be good to let people choose the key binds for these since some people prefer using QWER instead.
deft patio
Im sticking with "click to actually shoot the skill" bcoz i have setup several ways to override skill usage
-Toggle hold click for holding parry
-Directional WASD + click. So, W + click is stab. If i have to press W + 1, feels kinda awkward
-And also for tooltip. If i press 2 and it straight away casts StormGust on the mouse cursor, i can't know how big the radius and who will get hit. Same with EarthSpike, i'd like to know the ground normal direction that will result on the spike angle
-And last, click spammage. If my skill is all the way in 8, i'd rather select that once and spam shoot it with click
What u're saying is still something worth considering tho. GW2 is one of the reference, and they too use 12345 to activate(except still, for their ground targetted i think. It still requires a click to actually release)
dense talon
I mean, you can look at any mmorpg, it's always best to let the players choose how to activate their skills since your way of activating them might not fit their ways, especially important to consider if you want to port it to console.
Just have action slots that people can bind to whatever combination of keys they want, I prefer to use 1234QERFC + shift + ctrl combinations for example. and I can fit...about...30ish skills that way comfortably.
deft patio
For the hotkey rebinding, sure
But im talking about the click to actually shoot thing. This is crucial for the points i mentioned above
Gw2 and Moba actually does have an option for "Quick cast", which is the skipping the click part of the cast process
Im still considering the implications of having that option...
dense talon
you can always let the skill clicks override the mouse left click for example.
I always use quick cast myself the second I get used to the controls, unless if it is a very tactical turn based game like Divinity for example.
deft patio
you can always let the skill clicks override the mouse left click for example.
@dense talon
This part shouldn't be too hard to code. Im kinda wondering if Quickcast is on, then what does LMB used for?
What i have currently is like this:
When i press the skill hotkey, i also enter that skill's "stance".
Before i can enter the stance, the skill must also have charges. This is also for combo purpose
Eg:
Press 2 = reload anim. Then enters the "DemonSlash" stance, 3 charges
Click 3x = release all the combo hits. Finishing the charges will auto reload it again.
Press 2 when charge is not max = reloads it again
With what i have now, and to compensate to accomodate the Quickcast option, i was also already considering to have R as the reload hotkey, and not call Reload when pressing the hotkey
Pressing the hotkey again can then be the Quick cast function
dense talon
It's the same thing I mentioned above, in LoL for example if you don't have quick cast, you press left click to confirm your firing of the spell, but if you have quick cast on, left click is basic attack unless you press another skill, then that skill will just fire in the direction or location of the mouse
you could use the same button as far as the fire mechanic goes
But hey, you game might not be suited for quick casting if it's too complex of a combat system, only some skills might even be suited for it
but some LoL characters have that stance thing too, like Xerath I think he's called, his ultimate makes him basically into a turret and then you can press the ultimate button(or left click I forget) to fire 2-3 more hits or abort the action
You could always have the skills auto recharging unless you want to make it a painful ordeal to reload
I would aim for making the game fun, whatever is the more fun I would go for 😄
deft patio
You could always have the skills auto recharging unless you want to make it a painful ordeal to reload
@dense talon
This is on the way. Basically itll always try to reload when that skill is on stance, unless u click again to interrupt the reload, then the combo continues
dense talon
yeah, either when too much time has passed, aborted the stance or out of charges
deft patio
Going back to the first question, i want a utility/alternate skill cast
Assuming i only allow players to bind hotkey without ctrl/shift etc, i'm thinking of having this "utility variant" be Ctrl click (or if quick cast, then Ctrl + the hotkey)
Do u approve? =D
@dense talon
dense talon
I always prefer it being shift, especially kids have a hard time with ctrl + numbers for example.
deft patio
Yep, this variant cast modifier button can be binded
dense talon
yeah, then it should be fine, like a bind to the modifier
deft patio
Alright. Im just researching if people find it weird to have to go Ctrl click/hotkey for the alternate cast. But i guess its ok
Thanks for the quickcast chat too, really cleared other things as well
dense talon
people who are playing MMORPG's are for sure not surprised by this, it's like the standard in the old games like tera, WoW and FF14 for example.
deft patio
The quick cast? Or the alternate cast button?
dense talon
alternative button cast, since you are always juggling over 20+ spells, it's basically a must to use the alternative modifier like shift or ctrl
deft patio
Yeah thats the intention
But maybe i havent played those MORPG's..
Except for Ragnarok, but that's only a "force cast" offensive to ally or support to enemy
dense talon
Diablo forced you to only use a few buttons, the same happen with GW2, which is not bad at all IMO, but that limits the players flexibility to make builds.
but you can enrich that using other methods.
dense talon
Like gems manipulating the skills as diablo/PoE does, or talent tree's that changes how the skills work, or different reactions when two skills are used in combination and so on
deft patio
I also got the first 2
Used in combination is like one after another combo i guess?
I think i got enough "variation" tho. Aight, just need to make the controls tight n make it fun
lilac warren
does a mid poly battle royale game sound like a huge expensive project? just asking
honestly i could find a way to do it myself and just make it a fuly free game with credits that can be earned by winning
dense talon
@lilac warren If you care about server performance, network stability and anti cheat systems, then yes.
grand sequoia
hello together i am currently developing a game with blender models and the unity engine. i am not able to use my shadernote textures in unity. can someone explain me how it works?
latent swallow
@grand sequoia you might get a better answer in #🔀┃art-asset-workflow
cold onyx
Can you guys please flood me with good tips & materials on how to scale and compose objects in a scene (so that objects are proportional to each other)? Especially for non-photorealistic graphics?
dense talon
It's an old design, would not call it "outdated" though.
It's what made the old console games very hard for example, just look at Battletoads and such games. The reason most games don't do that anymore since most gamers nowadays is spoiled brats used to being pampered with unlimited lives. I was actually happy to see the 99 lives challenge in Mario Maker. Made it more fun IMO.
And in some game modes, having lives just doesn't make sense, but for platforms I think it's still a valid way to design a game when you want a hard cap saying "if you are not at least this good, you won't clear this game"
dense talon
Lives nowadays in Mario is basically just fluffy nonsense in the normal game, I think it might even have a traditional meaning to them, since you get lives EVERYWHERE in those games, so it's not even a challenge to keep them at 99 all the time.
if you however design a game with limited availability for getting extra lives, then it's a different feeling.
kind folio
lives and action platformer
mystic stratus
gamers nowadays is spoiled brats used to being pampered with unlimited lives.
a t t a c k :(
dense talon
Like a roguelike where you have a chance to get one extra life in a run would mean a good amount for the player
mystic stratus
I agree tbh 🤣
dense talon
But I think this is slightly at fault of the game devs being greedy and catering to the majority instead of their super fans
dense talon
yeah, and like salt and sanctuary, but these games make dying punishing in different ways
kind folio
how about having achievement system and giving scores according how many tries you took to complete that level
or loosing the armours and items u get if u loose live?
dense talon
Salt & Sanctuary is like a difficult platformer, and with few saves, but if you die, you lose all the exp since that last save, which I actually like a lot
kind folio
at the same time
there shld be reward
if i try 100 times same thing
it gets little boring won't it?
brings to the topic of rewards and loss in game design
dense talon
I don't think there should be a reward to someone failing 100 times at something xD
There could be such a reward for playing a game mode several times though.
Achievement hunters will hate you if you put in an achievement to a player for dying 100 times for example, it's just a dumb achievement that punishes good players
kind folio
talking about achievements this system was not there
when it was implemented in games
good implementation though
i think platformers can have some good achievement system
for replayability
dense talon
Yes, that is fine, for example, different endings to the game and such.
Or using one talent tree instead of another and so on.
I just like rewarding good behavior and punishing bad, it's like raising kids.
kind folio
yeah i know
but atm kids are pampered so much
if u punish them for doing something bad
ur a bad person
🤷🏽
i mean wth ima reward my kid for doing bad stuff
dense talon
I dunno about you, but I ain't rewarding my kids if they are doing bad, don't care what other thinks.
It's very easy to punish a kid, literally removing their access to any kind of games and a kid goes into depression, which is a good way to make them avoid doing badly. "oh, so you think painting on the wall is a good practice? well, it rewards you with 1 week of no Nintendo Switch"
cold onyx
Hello guys, How do you normally approach game design and development? I mean what are your steps as soon as you got an idea?
dense talon
@cold onyx I write down a bunch of buzzwords I've thought of while thinking of the game, and then I start coding.
If I had the team however I would work very differently, but I enjoy the solitude.
Since I work with software development it's very relaxing just working alone for me.
But some things that helps when planning a bigger project in groups especially is to have a shared Trello board. It's very important and people really don't use this enough.
Have one board for the broader roadmaps and ideas and another board for actual development tickets and one board for art for example.
cold onyx
Hello
I am trying to find the map for game mechanic,it had pictures
But i am not able to
cold onyx
@cold onyx I write down a bunch of buzzwords I've thought of while thinking of the game, and then I start coding.
If I had the team however I would work very differently, but I enjoy the solitude.
Since I work with software development it's very relaxing just working alone for me.But some things that helps when planning a bigger project in groups especially is to have a shared Trello board. It's very important and people really don't use this enough.
@dense talon I'm alone too. In real life I'm a project manager and I can handle group work but I can't handle working alone even If I want too. Making a game is my dream so I'm working towards it. Are there some kind of project management practices for games? Don't know
dense talon
@cold onyx some people really enjoy working up a game design document at first to help them know what to focus on. But if this is you first game I would probably start that process small and make some simple games at first. In the beginning I started off with trying to make multiplayer games completely alone with a server and everything, and this can really put a blocker on your creativity because it just takes so much time. I would make some quick projects and get comfortable with unity and the whole idea of creating a change will become easier and easier.
sleek iris
anyone like this?
took me like 7 mins
using Snaps Prototype | Office asset
very good
leaden fulcrum
Hey, looking for a 3d artists to possibly create some models for a game I am making, it's unpaid so keep that in mind. PM me for more info, many thanks in advance.
sleek iris
if u need gun models ill give ye some
jolly ether
cold onyx
Hi, anyone read the GDD I posted some post earlier and had some critique or did it just drown in the flood?
dense talon
@cold onyx I'll have a look
Okay, some thing I noticed that seems odd is that you talked about the 3 day cycle in the game concept description, but don't mention anything of it in the core gameplay section, seems to be a very important aspect of the game.
You also seem to put a lot of restrictions to the weapons, which I personally don't think would be enjoyable. But hey, if it works well with other game mechanics, it might still be fun.
cold onyx
@dense talon thanks! Will correct that. Still balancing the weapon restrictions. I try to give it a survival horroresque feeling and give a heavier emphathis on each enemy encounter but maybe it´s too restrictive.
sleek iris
anyone know any assest packages that are good for environmental work?
cold onyx
Guys what do you think is the best combat system for mobile rpgs? Skill based combat (so less action and more timed skill shots) or a More Action combat?
drowsy yacht
i think it's a matter of preference. I personally like skill based combat since the tactile feedback of controls on mobile is subpar
cold onyx
I hate rpg on phones, they all look same with different graphics
😂
And stories are also kinda similar
tacit burrow
Mobile rpgs usually SUCK
cold onyx
There are very bad ones...but people like them. That's why I'm making one. I would like to create a slight better one 😄
calm girder
@tacit burrow raid shadow legends
cold onyx
Noone shows that its an rpg,they show cinematics,characters...last 2 sec they show its an rpg
tacit burrow
I felt really hurt when some of my favorite youtubers got sponsored by it
tacit burrow
like bruh this game is shit. Nobody likes it, it isn't fun to play
cold onyx
like bruh this game is shit. Nobody likes it, it isn't fun to play
@tacit burrow Are you sure about that?
tacit burrow
i mean it isn't as bad as those "RANDOM KEY" sites or G2A
tacit burrow
i actually used it once because SO MANY youtubers said good things about it
only for the game to be gone from the account after a month
cold onyx
I played one,it was so bad i kinda hated rpg since then
Dude anyone designing racing games here ?
I need some help
calm girder
I've messed around with some templates
cold onyx
I need that template lol
north jetty
hye guys do you think having a list of classes for every warrior that I got is a good way to store and update info from them?
cold onyx
It depends...I used to go with that pattern until I discovered scriptable objects
Now I store everything there...and scripts just handle the functionalities.
cold onyx
What do you mean by warriors? You mean different playable characters?
In any case i used scriptableobject and created an EnemyType SCobject. Inside there I put all the data I need to personalize enemies.
Then each enemy just have a script that derives from an interface and which has a EnemyType variable to it. Each of every enemy
north jetty
yes diferent playable ccharacters
cold onyx
But as I always say... if the thing you make works...go for it
north jetty
I just feel that what I am doing it over complicating what could be simpler and I dont know
calm girder
@cold onyx the standard assets has a car controller
and there is a kart racing template
I've opened up but didn't bother looking around
cold onyx
I meant game design template
jaunty meteor
I have a maze game idea. I have players start as runners and solve the maze by finding their way to certain tasks (basically trying to solve their way through in the direction of the task). After they are done with their tasks (might be 2-4 tasks etc), they are turned into hunter. Hunters try to kill runners, cant kill other hunters, and their incentive to do so stems from how I define and reward the winners.
Basically, the game finishes when everyone is a hunter. Upon finishing, Everyone receives a base reward and a certain amount of currency is distributed among the hunters. That certain amount of currency does not depend on how many hunters there were. If there was only one hunter, they get all the reward from this pool, if there were two, it is shared between them etc. So as a hunter, you want to kill all the runners so that the pool of reward gets awarded to only you. To give incentive to the individual hunters to kill runners, they get rewarded additional for each runner kill.
How can I make this more interesting? Are these mechanics good enough?
winged dove
What are the rewards?
Might be difficult to balance once one or 2 people win a couple times and overpower the others?
jaunty meteor
Reward is currency to purchase cosmetic effects. Nothing you can buy will change your odds of beating others.
late fiber
Idk if this is the right place to ask, but do anybody know of any free materials or assets for terrain like the ground, mountain textures, etc?
dense talon
@jaunty meteor Make some form of fight back mechanic for the runners?
Mazes are usually really bad to play in normally since a lot of it becomes luck based if it's a new maze every game.
Traps for runners and hunters alike, uhm....sensors that alert people where they are
what else... moving walls
@late fiber https://assetstore.unity.com/top-assets/top-free I mean, there are quite a bit of them, but there are sites exclusive to free 2D art for example too.
lapis reef
Hey guys, has anyone got a workflow video for a house creation in blender for creating a game like resident evil 7, I mean I don't exactly know how to go about creating the indoors of that house, in blender if possible
cold onyx
@lapis reef https://youtu.be/wrzSrjAY69c
lapis reef
@cold onyx that's just creating a room, how would I go about creating a whole house which is connected to a full terrain, I mean, you can enter and exit the house without the use of loading screens
cold onyx
lapis reef
yoo thanks man @cold onyx
cold onyx
👍
cold onyx
How should I handle levels, mobs and itemization in an RPG?
I think it is hard to actually balance everything
does any of you have some kind of paper/articles regarding this?
faint copper
That sounds like too broad a question to me. Maybe you can break it down a little bit further? There's literally tons of literature regarding every single aspect you posted... I'd assume that it boils down to the question: what game are you actually making?
- For an MMO (and RPGs that behave like one) there's plenty of material for WoW (just because I have played it for a very long time, I assume, there's comparable material for a lot of other games). And many, many pages about what is called "theorycrafting". WoWhead gives a list of class discord servers: https://www.wowhead.com/discord-servers
- For an isometric RPG with a full party, these video serias about Durlag's Tower in Baldur's Gate 1 might catch your interest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgc20zbRXk
- For a general approach to "balancing" (and what it actually is), you can just search the internet. I On my opinion this is perfectly valid (especially as a starting point), because ideas are evolving much quicker than books are published. And to many of the ideas behind "balancing" there are very interesting discussions with a whole lot of perspectives, e.g.: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedesign/comments/2clxl7/what_is_the_math_behind_game_balance/
I'd say, you're right when stating that "it is hard to actually balance everything". That is one of the essential parts for a lot of games, if not a factor of success (Hearthstone for example wouldn't have been so successful if the "balancing" had been very bad - because it wouldn't have been fun to play then).
At the end of the day, I'd go with Jesse Schell and say: "It's all about player experience". Your "balancing" doesn't have to be perfect, if the players enjoy playing your game - it might help, though...
cold onyx
@faint copper thanks a lot for your message. I usually don't expect people to answer my questions but maybe you are right and I was to broad. I'm making a mobile RPG with a leveling system. The balancing that I need to do is between zones-storylines-player and levels
I've an Idea on how to make it but I would like to read some literature regarding this subject. I will read what you linked...thanks again
dense talon
Game balancing in RPG's are difficult, since players also like certain games because they are imbalanced as long as it's difficult to become that stupidly strong. Kind of like Path of Exile, it's an insanely complex talent tree and gearing system, but it rewards players that put time in it by making them stupid strong if done right.
WoW classic is a little of the same, that game is not balanced at all, which has easily been proven by this remake of it.
(Like running 30+ warriors in a raid since it's just higher clearing speed)
But people enjoy it.
near ridge
🤔 Now's a fundamental downside for having that much muscle heads in a dungeon at once.
dense talon
what?
trail gate
i am looking for anyone who wants to join a team for making a game! we need coders, graphic designers!! dm me plz
full ginkgo
I am very new to game development and im making bosses can someone @ me for good advice to make a really good boss
pulsar sonnet
cold onyx
How to find the best packages for the game you want to create? For asthetics for instance. I want a mix of realism and old school
dense talon
@cold onyx I'm assuming you are talking about asset bundles and you can't create them yourself.
The best way is to hire an artist that creates something unique you want.
But if you want something cheaper you go to a search engine of your choice and blast away on the internet until you find something that suits you, make sure it's legal to use for free, otherwise you buy it.
Unity assets store has some assets you can buy directly in unity too.
cold onyx
gta 3 at its core is one of the most simple games it has 2 mechanics movement on foot and movement in a vehicle
frank jolt
hey maybe not the best place to ask this, but i'll try anyway. Does anyone have any ideas for obstacles in a level like this? preferably ones i only really need a collider for and no additional scripting. Its a kids room kinda thing
currently just have a swing, tube and book shelf.
cold onyx
Alright, I just had an epic game idea
Game where you smack things with your book and scream obscure literature references at enemies.
dense talon
@frank jolt You can literally add any kind of toy in that room and call it an obstacle. A pile of clothes are very common in those kind of rooms too
frank jolt
yeah ive been trying to find toys that kinda...make sense? or are actually complicated enough to jump on, over, thru, etc? but i like the clothes idea
cold onyx
clothes could be hyper-physical, like they bend and move up and down and side to side depending on your position, how you land on them, what movement buttons you press
near socket
Okay, got a question for you guys.
If you were to gauge a players fear level through movement (mouse and keyboard input frequency), would you say when someone scared they tend to move MORE or LESS?
I know it's a bit situational, but overall what would you guys say?
slow sage
it's kinda weird because like.. very scared they might freeze up, but a good jump scare and they'll shake
dense talon
@near socket Yeah, I feel like that is the wrong way to measure if someone is afraid, I mean, some people literally let go of the keyboard and mouse if they are scared and some twitch and fling the mouse, and some turn around and start running away in the game.
You would have to inform the player of this mechanic so they are aware of how the game mechanic works, otherwise it would be annoying to play not knowing how to act in response to the spookems.
near socket
Good points, definitely. It's so variable it's tough. I appreciate your Input though @slow sage & @dense talon
dense talon
Fear and emotions in general is very difficult to measure in games, but if you want that kind of feature you could have it that "sudden movements may cause the ghosts to notice you" for example. but that would probably have to be explained to the player.
Doesn't amnesia do something like that? But I think that is based on sound...
near socket
Yeah that's definitely true, and tbh I'm not sure. To make a long story short, we have a horror game, but I'm looking to create some sort of side "dynamic spooky" system, and I'm trying to lean away from random timers or triggers. These tiny little scares I hook into it would have almost nothing to do with the game or primary antagonist. Just a secondary layer of small "spooks"
"was that object always there?" "Did they just fall?" "What was that new noise I just heard?" Type stuff
slender turret
hey, im looking for someone to help me with my game, i wont be able to pay, but i can split any money the games gets with you.
glad crystal
is there some sort of pack with different type of objects like wood planks and stone slabs and stuff like that to use to build whatever you can with
dense talon
@glad crystal It seems like you didn't try to look in the asset store 😄
winged dove
What are some good ways to show the player that an item is interactable? (2d top down game)
So far I've thought of... Text above item "press e to open chest".
Orange outline around item
An interact icon above item
kind folio
which method is better for an action platformer?
Is making the player attack and fill the gauge bar is better
Is making the player have a energy bar or mana bar or something like that and make it constant and say he has hundred mana and or hundred energy
I was thinking which one was better
covert otter
cold onyx
Don't know if it this is the correct place. But what do you think of actual copying pieces from other games?
I find myself in this situation because my own game is very inspired from at least two distinct titles and I find myself many times basically copying the way they are doing things
also in UI etc.
Do you think it is correct?
dense talon
@cold onyx There is nothing wrong about this unless you are blatantly breaking copyright laws by placing their name in the game or something.
It's extremely hard not to do a game mechanic someone else has not already done somewhere.
The fan base of that game might turn on you, but that's about it, there is nothing wrong or right about this, it's just fact that everything we humans create are inspired by something.
kind folio
@dense talon what you think about energy bars and specials?
which system engages player more and they get more fun
fill up bar by attack like those fighting games
or have predetermined energy bar which increase with progression?
cold onyx
@cold onyx There is nothing wrong about this unless you are blatantly breaking copyright laws by placing their name in the game or something.
It's extremely hard not to do a game mechanic someone else has not already done somewhere.
The fan base of that game might turn on you, but that's about it, there is nothing wrong or right about this, it's just fact that everything we humans create are inspired by something.
@dense talon I guess you are right :), thanks for the message
kind folio
yes everything human create is based on nature
cold onyx
or have predetermined energy bar which increase with progression?
@kind folio for my RPG i'm going to let the player choose when to use the Special Attack
dense talon
@kind folio I think that the two concepts of energy that doesn't recharge vs energy building up like rage meters in WoW for example engages players in a different way for sure.
