🏃┃animation

[ruby drift]

is there a way to make the cylinder follow the spring?

like so that it stays on top

ill send a vid of the animation if that helps

[agile solstice]

You can animate it to move in the same clip in which you scale the spring

[ruby drift]

nvm

[agile solstice]

Or if you find it tedious to animate them together, you can also use constraints

[ruby drift]

thanks

I finished the animation so now I can stop for the day (my head hurts)

[zenith edge]

Hi, I have a problem with animation or something like that.

The zombie won't stop doing walking animation even it not moving, I want it to do Idle animation when it stop.
Did I do something wrong?

[zenith edge]

nvm, fixed it

[wheat vessel]

hey there everyone i am having an issue in my game where i am making gun animations(holding/shooting the gun). but when i aim up or down the gun gets offset from the hands.

[main onyx]

hey there everyone i am having an issue

[proper canopy]

hey

i created my fist Animation for my Enemy. this is day 2 of me try to improve my skills. What do u all think? what can i do better

it has => Hurt, Idle, Walk, Attack, SpitAttack

[thorn wedge]

is there uhm... any way to organize this??..

[wheat vessel]

call each animation in code or use blendtrees to help

[thorn wedge]

wait what-

[sterile vine]

consider submachines or blend trees for the 3 idle states for example

[thorn wedge]

but it still needs the transition arrows to guide them?

[thorn wedge]

uh.... what is a blend tree... that's new to me

[sterile vine]

if you call the animation in code, you don't need the transitions
afaict you generally wouldn't be using both together

i personally lean towards using transitions anyways though

[sterile vine]

it's basically a single state that can blend (or select, if animating props that can't blend) different animation clips based on input parameters

[wheat vessel]

this is a good vid about blend trees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8rGyoStfgQ

[thorn wedge]

alright back to studying, thanks so much guys! :D

[agile solstice]

Especially with Animator you should read the documentation
https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.2/Documentation/Manual/AnimationStateMachines.html
A lot of relevant and interesting stuff in there

[proud jackal]

when I import a new animation+same used before rig from blender into unity - my player new animation is not playing, but I suppose changes are valid (like the movement of bones, because I see movement of camera in preview, but not the mesh), but the mesh is just standing and not retargeted properly. how can I fix it without reimporting the original mesh with all new animations? if it possible ofc without third party assets. I'm using GENERIC RIG btw, so it's not humanoid, as you can see.
like, the original mesh is used with the same rig as in new animation and I didn't change anything of that. maybe I'm missing some settings?
the settings: pic 1 - original rig with original animations, pic 2 - my new animations to that rig, pic 3 - my new animation data and I suppose it contains all valid data?

bone structure/naming is the same, I've rechecked in the engine

[main onyx]

when I import a new animation+same used

[narrow dagger]

Hey question do you know what might cause bones to go out of place during run time. The reimported my animations but its seems to only happen during run time

I’m in 6.4 alpha. Not sure if this version can cause that issue

[sterile vine]

wow, unity 6.3 isnt even out and they're already working on 6.4?

try with a stable version, a full release or an lts

[narrow dagger]

Yea might as well. A friend of mine. Changed it to this version for some reason

[narrow dagger]

Ok back to this is still causing issues

when the game is not running and i check the animations. that deformation doesn't exist

Found the issue. Weight limit is set to 1 bone during run time. i set it to two and it fixed itself

[timid jolt]

any idea why front and back animation is getting stuck in my blend tree
note: looping is on

[tall rover]

I have a character model from blender and I am looking for someone that can make a couple simple animations that I can then import into Unity. I seem to be Blender-disabled so please DM if you have some time

[proper canopy]

hey i wanted to use a pixel art Animation but my Animation Frames looking strange, everthing looks fine in Idle but if i use a "Heal" Animation my Frog Boss clipping under tha Ground? why is that?

[gusty garnet]

you are chaning the transform position in you animation it seems

[sterile vine]

make sure you've set the pivots correctly

slice using a grid instead of smart slicing, usually

[proper canopy]

hmm, so i did waht u said. it finally works. but is it normal to do that on every each frame?

[sterile vine]

did you have smart slicing on

i shouldve phrased that differently

"make sure the pivots are correct" - a common mistake is using autoslicing on a grid spritesheet, leading to incorrect pivots

[proper canopy]

hmmmm i understand, so i should use auto slicing

because this is exatlcy what i did

[sterile vine]

you should not

[proper canopy]

i will test it out, thanks for u help

[sterile vine]

you should use grid slicing on grid spritesheets

[proper canopy]

but the Character is not a Grid

its a Sprite Sheet

[sterile vine]

spritesheets can be on grids...

do you mean an atlas?

yknow what, just show the spritesheet

[proper canopy]

i cant currently i need to buy yoghurt

for my mom

i mean like i have a Row Whit Spirtes from my enemy Combrarrring. and i cliucked automatic Slide.

wait, i will show u a photo in 5 Minutes

[sterile vine]

so sounds like it was a grid

you should use grid slicing, not auto slicing

[proper canopy]

okay i will try it in 10 minutes and im give u a feedback here on this channel if it works

is it okay for u if i ping u?

[sterile vine]

no

[proper canopy]

okay i will just post my result

[proper canopy]

im currently at this state

if i understand u chorrectly i only now need to "Apply"

[sterile vine]

yep, that's on a grid

[proper canopy]

perfect and i also see that this is the soloution for my Problem

Thank u Chirs!!!

[spiral kelp]

there has to be a better way to do this bro

[main onyx]

Thread

[lament talon]

hello i need help
i recentently edited the animations for my character and now my animator on said character stopped working
note
all the animations are working correctly if played stand alone
the animator doesn't seem to play them even though it's correctly changing states
has anybody encountered an issue like this?

nevermid fixed
had hierarchy issues
( i had to edit animations files manually , don't ask )

[twin grail]

Hey im having some trouble with animations in my project. I created 3 simple animations in unity with the rig set to generic instead of humanoid, I'd really like to not have to remake the animations in blender. Is there a good tutorial on how to convert simple generic animations to humanoid?

[lament talon]

did you export them in an fbx?

[twin grail]

the generic animations?

no

[lament talon]

yes

mmh

no clue man
i do everything through blender

[twin grail]

ill try exporting it first

how hard would it be to do some simple animation in blender, the animations i have are really just poses with a few movements

[lament talon]

the process is very similar if not better
but be aware when you export from blender

fbx scale is important

[oblique linden]

I have a character for Unity and it functions fine when moving. But when I play the idle animation (I use a character controller + script based movement), the character is rocking back and forth weirdly like this when in idle.

Any way to fix this elegantly without having to re-rig my entire character?

[candid siren]

i dont recommend you using animations trees

they are so complex

and confuse you a lot

i recommend using code instead

is more easy and flexible

[spiral kelp]

how can i do that

[candid siren]

you can do that easy by doing this

first you create a string variable called current animation

[sterile vine]

i mean, if you already have the statemachine set up, it's fine tbh

code just makes the transitions invisible

[candid siren]

latter you reference your animator

[sterile vine]

you still need the same logic

[spiral kelp]

yeah i know but like for future reference yk

[candid siren]

latter you use this code

public void ChangeAnimation(string animation, float crossfade = 0.2f)
{
if (currentanimation != animation)
{
currentanimation = animation;
animator.CrossFade(animation, crossfade);
}
}

and when you want to change your animation you only need to use change animation

for example for idlea

ChangeAnimation("Idle",0,1)

and that lol

[sterile vine]

😬 really? with magic strings?

[candid siren]

actually works really well

[sterile vine]

that's definitely a worse idea

i guess it's unavoidable, but at least have them as fields instead of typing them every time

[candid siren]

the only thing that you need to make in animator tree its change the state names for strings names

[sterile vine]

magic strings are significant code smell

[candid siren]

i dunno works well for my gun system xd

[sterile vine]

they're fragile, meaning it's easy to make hard-to-trace mistakes

[sterile vine]

didn't say it doesn't work

[candid siren]

uhm i dunno

[sterile vine]

but it's really goddamn easy to just make a typo somewhere and have the entire thing break

[candid siren]

i dont lik animator trees btw

[sterile vine]

sure, but recommending magic strings directly in parameters is kind of a bad idea

[candid siren]

if you have a lot of animations becomes really hard to memorize what animations crossfades

in what states

[sterile vine]

you aren't supposed to memorize them.

[candid siren]

you dont need to memoriz them

you use another void to make a function to check animation all the time

[sterile vine]

another void...

[candid siren]

srry for my english lol

[sterile vine]

why does everyone call methods "voids" lmao

[candid siren]

yeah i just forgot how to call them

[sterile vine]

well, not everyone. just beginners

[candid siren]

im not a beginner

i swear 😭

[sterile vine]

yeah no you still need magic strings in that case

[candid siren]

i just abandoned unity for 6 months

cuz school

[sterile vine]

i mean. i'd consider myself a beginner too if i forgot basic terms ngl

[candid siren]

mmh you got all the reazon

i just involved lol

[sterile vine]

magic strings should be avoided if possible/reasonable, that's just kinda a good rule of thumb

magic numbers as well

[candid siren]

mmh what method you use to avoid animations trees

even you avoid them?

[sterile vine]

i don't

i use submachines to lay them out

[candid siren]

mmh for now strings hasent caused any problem yet

i will keep using them for a while

[sterile vine]

yeah they don't cause runtime problems

i never said that

they are development hazards

if you change a state, cool, no references to mark that though

[candid siren]

its easy to memorize them

[sterile vine]

might not even get any errors until extensive playtesting

[spiral kelp]

im not that good of a coder but couldnt you like, add a debug log to say like "This animation is not vaild!" or something

or am i missing the point

[candid siren]

btw if you dont remermber states name you can check in animation tree

[sterile vine]

hah, if you have 12 states where an animation tree looks like spaghetti? good luck with that

[sterile vine]

not really, no

[sterile vine]

so why not just... modify the transition there

[candid siren]

cuz this dude.

i avoid spaghettis lol

[sterile vine]

you aren't

[candid siren]

for example guns use like 8 or 9 animations

[sterile vine]

if you have enough states, with enough transitions, then you essentially do have spaghetti

just that, when you're doing it in code, you don't see the spaghetti

[candid siren]

i only check states by player inputs or even current animation (is not recomended)

[sterile vine]

yikes

state should definitely not be kept track of by the animator

[candid siren]

okay you got a point

the easy part in code is that you can manage to organize the information well using messages

[sterile vine]

wow.

[candid siren]

or a well organized ifs loops

[sterile vine]

by "messages", do you mean comments

[candid siren]

you got me 😭

[sterile vine]

in unity, messages are a specific thing

and if you're using those too.. that's just a ton of magic strings lmao

[candid siren]

👶 🍼

[sterile vine]

it really doesn't have to be that complicated

[spiral kelp]

what could this possibly mean 😭

[candid siren]

mmh depends

[spiral kelp]

oh yeah i have a question what does the 3 arrows change

[candid siren]

that tree lok easy for a basic character controller

[sterile vine]

there's multiple transitions there

[sterile vine]

there are several substates

[candid siren]

but in a normal game you got more interactions that these

[sterile vine]

yeah, i'm aware

[spiral kelp]

ohh ok

[sterile vine]

and they'll be in a submachine

so just 1 extra state at the top level

[candid siren]

imagine making a tree to these states

thats why i prefer code

[sterile vine]

looks like several of those could be in substate machines

i have 10 states and all of them are blendtrees. like mine just isn't far off lmao.

[candid siren]

specially cuz in fps games weapons need to have smooth animations so its better to control that by code

the crossfade helps you to avoid to make a lot of transitions lol

[sterile vine]

how do you think animation trees work

crossfade is an animator feature

[candid siren]

i know lol

[sterile vine]

it's not inherently better. you're doing the same things

[candid siren]

but well organized

and with better control lol

[sterile vine]

you literally have no organization 😂

[candid siren]

i dont get why

lol

[candid siren]

yeah i dont like substates too lol

i just prefer to simplify

xd

[sterile vine]

yikes, man

[candid siren]

but you know you got a point

its only that i like more code

lol

[main onyx]

Yeah, totally agree with Chris here, the code route might work fine now and feel nicer because as you say you prefer code but it definitely has concerns with maintainability and scalability. If you find the Animator is more complex then you probably just don't know enough about what the animator can do and how it should be used, at the end of the day it was created to solve a problem and improve workflows in a way that you don't need to code this stuff yourself.

Granted it's your project so do whatever you like but saying you don't recommend others to use them and they should use code instead is poor advice

[meager smelt]

Hey, who's absolutely familiar with animation rigging and foot ik?

[mystic willow]

Have a read of this, this is why I said "Don't ask to ask, just ask the question you have"

https://dontasktoask.com/

[meager smelt]

I've set up foot ik for a dinosaur but when it moves from its original position, I get this output:
Is this so common, or should I attach more information?

    
    var direction = (constraint.rotation * solverDirection);

    var rayDistance = rayStep + rayDip;
    if (Physics.Raycast(constraint.position - direction * rayStep, direction * rayDistance, out var hit, rayDistance, layerMask, QueryTriggerInteraction.Ignore)) {
        twoBoneIKConstraint.weight = 1f;
        Vector3 desiredPos = hit.point - direction * targetOffset;
        float distance = Vector3.Distance(desiredPos, _defaultTargetPos);
        if (distance > maxOffset) desiredPos = _defaultTargetPos;
        target.position = desiredPos;
        //target.position = hit.point - direction * targetOffset;
        target.rotation = Quaternion.FromToRotation(-direction, hit.normal) * constraint.rotation;
    } else {
        twoBoneIKConstraint.weight = 0f;
    }
}```

[main onyx]

I've set up foot ik for a dinosaur but

[wide silo]

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[honest rose]

Hi, i have an animation event that changes the state of an enemy, it works on one, but not on other, and i have no idea of why

[agile solstice]

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[main onyx]

Hi, i have an animation event that

[lunar bronze]

any info on unity animator tool(s) changes?

[meager smelt]

Hey!
I have this exact setup on the two legs for the dinosaur.

However, when I start the game, this happens:

Bro is swimming, but why?

[main onyx]

However, when I start the game, this

[elder parrot]

hi i am a bigginer and i need help with the animation and cinemachine camera

so i want to make a FPP camera but i i attach it to the head it start bobbing with the animation how can i make the head stop moving?

[agile solstice]

Post only to one relevant channel please

[meager smelt]

Hey!
I need help with animation rigging. Today I set up IK for the legs, and it works in the idle animation for my dinosaur. However, when it starts the walking animation, the target stays in the same place meaning that the foot doesn't actually move indicating walking.
Here's my setup:

[meager smelt]

So do I have to bake the target's positions and rotations into the animation?

[plain wadi]

how you guys do that tween animations? (i guess that's how it's called)

[opal loom]

how do i fix this problem, went into blender to fix up some stuff with the mixamo rig but because i did it in blender its now got the parent armature, before it was just the hips. does anyone know how to make the armature non exsistant?

[main onyx]

how do i fix this problem, went into

[uneven lichen]

Does anyone know why I can't add my sprite to animation?

[void sigil]

Where is that animaton window from? is it from assets folder or gameobject

[uneven lichen]

asset folder

[void sigil]

you should do it from gameobject

Afaik you cant change animation from asset folder

[slim pivot]

if anyone here has the documentation for the mxm motion matching asset, it would be much appreciated - it seems at least the latest versions all linked to google documents which have been removed. the videos online are great (will back those up now to be safe), but as the asset is quite complex the documentation itself was also invaluable.

[wheat flint]

Hello guys, 2 questions

first, the arrow heads on a transition does means that you add another checking condition?

for example this, the part where contains 3 arrowheads

And Second, the interruption results for example in the transition of "reload -> fire" if i do it interruption source Next State then the transition will set priority to the set state which in this case is Fire state?

[sterile vine]

that means you have several transitions there

[wheat flint]

Context?

Yeah a more adjusted transition due to more conditioning

And the second part i did said?

[sterile vine]

no, separate transitions

a single transition with multiple conditions will still show up as a single arrowhead

the conditions there are basically AND'd together
then, you can have separate transitions entirely - those would be OR'd together

the 3 arrowheads mean you have several transitions

no clue how interruptions work, that's why i didn't answer that

[wheat flint]

Dw

[wheat flint]

Solo it's a replace of the transitions? 🙂

How could use that?

I think it's not recommended on weapons bc in the case of interruptions it affects the start and the results

[sterile vine]

...no? it's just.. multiple transitions

it's not a special thing

it's just showing that there's multiple arrows there

[wheat flint]

And that you mean the arrowhead by 3 allows you into interrupt the transitions but the process

For example before the fire anim is about to start you can interrupt it on mid time the same animation 💜

[sterile vine]

nope, seperate things

the 3 arrowheads just signify there's more than 1 transition

[wheat flint]

Example?

[sterile vine]

you want me to show an example of 2 transitions?

[wheat flint]

1 transition? Then you do a third connected state and that's

[wheat flint]

Yeah why not? 😉

[sterile vine]

how am i being unclear

that's what 3 arrows means. there's multiple transitions

that's literally all it is

no clue where you're getting the interruption stuff from. that's a separate thing

[wheat flint]

Is a setting on the animation states -_-

[wheat flint]

But almost full time is recommended doing that right?

To enforce the animation transitions and the conditions

[sterile vine]

i have no idea what you're going on about

interruptions are wholly separate from the transition arrows

[drowsy wren]

hey, this will sound annoying but can anyone help me understand how to connect the animations and the states because i have no clue (i already made a simple animation i just dont know what to connect) (a vc would be lovely)

[wheat flint]

Send screenshot

You select the X state you want to make the transition and right click it and select the Make Transition option

[drowsy wren]

of the animator window?

[wheat flint]

Yes

[sterile vine]

we don't do VC/private support here, sorry.

transitions dictate what states flow into what other states, upon what conditions. perhaps draw it out on paper or in something like draw.io first, to get an idea of what you want, then implement that into the animator

[agile solstice]

If the interruption source is Current State, that means another transition from the state you're transitioning from can interrupt the currently running transition
If transition source is Next State, transitions from the state you're transitioning to can interrupt the currently running transition
https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.2/Documentation/Manual/class-Transition.html#TransitionInterruption
https://unity.com/blog/engine-platform/state-machine-transition-interruptions
Multiple transitions even between the same two states check their conditions independently and can interrupt each other, same as transitions to entirely different states, not one "more adjusted transition"

[wheat flint]

OK DANKA BUDDY

[idle tusk]

heyo
i'm working with a character and i'm running into a problem where i need basically to drive an animation based on a blendshape value

is there any way i could get the shape value into the controller as a parameter?

everything i could find either used a script or used the controller to drive the shape value

[agile solstice]

Why would those not be applicable?

[idle tusk]

the final prefab needs to be exportable as a speicifc format to make it modular/moddable
custom scripts are better to be stripped out

[agile solstice]

Without scripts, I believe you can only use clips to drive the blendshapes and other properties together
Using blend shapes to drive something else doesn't seem to make sense to me

[idle tusk]

basically it's a standard set of shapes, but the user can add extra things for the prefab to make it look better
Like move this bones away if this standard shapekey is active
allows to skip the setup of the animations themselves for the user

[agile solstice]

Well, we have no idea what kind of constraints you are working under unfortunately
Seems clear you're making content for a game, not making a game

[idle tusk]

it is the system for the game that's kinda the problem
it's the modding system not a mod for a system

maybe i'm thinking of this the wrong way from the very beginning

[silver geode]

Hi, I have a question about level design. What I want to do is this imagine a small crane, like one used in a construction tower. It has a platform or box attached with ropes, and both the crane and the attached box or platform move from one position to another.
As the player, you need to climb onto that moving box or platform to reach another location.
The problem is, I’m still learning Unity, so I’m not sure should I animate both the crane and the attached box/platform, or should I only animate the crane and move the platform using code? Or is there another approach?
My main goal is that the player should be able to stand on the platform or box and move with it to another position. Just looping an animation looks simple, but I’m not sure if that’s the right way to do it.

[haughty sigil]

so i do like this i take my cahracter from unity assets store then i use animations i dowoland them by the mixamo without skin just the animation and i take the green rectangle and i put it in aniamtor of my character i use this code

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class AnimationStateController : MonoBehaviour
{
Animator animator;
int isWalkingHash;
int isRunningHash;

// Start is called before the first frame update
void Start()
{
    animator = GetComponent<Animator>();


    // Convert parameter names to hashes (better performance)
    isWalkingHash = Animator.StringToHash("isWalking");
    isRunningHash = Animator.StringToHash("isRunning");
}


// Update is called once per frame
void Update()
{
    bool isRunning = animator.GetBool(isRunningHash);
    bool isWalking = animator.GetBool(isWalkingHash);
    bool forwardPressed = Input.GetKey(KeyCode.W);
    bool runPressed = Input.GetKey(KeyCode.LeftShift);


    // If player presses W and is not already walking
    if (!isWalking && forwardPressed)
    {
        animator.SetBool(isWalkingHash, true);
    }


    // If player stops pressing W
    if (isWalking && !forwardPressed)
    {
        animator.SetBool(isWalkingHash, false);
    }


    // If player is walking and presses LeftShift → start running
    if (!isRunning && forwardPressed && runPressed)
    {
        animator.SetBool(isRunningHash, true);
    }


    // If player stops running or releases W → stop running
    if (isRunning && (!forwardPressed || !runPressed))
    {
        animator.SetBool(isRunningHash, false);
    }
}

}
if you want to help me pls dm me

[fossil hill]

This is a dumb one, but can't I make an empty animation clip last just like 1 frame? How do I make this not be the default 1 sec?

[agile solstice]

If you have an empty state, why would its length make a difference? If it technically even has a length
I wonder if an empty 'clip' is even possible, or what its purpose would be

[fossil hill]

I just want the next state to come in immediatly, without having to wait for the clip to finsih a loop

[agile solstice]

You can define that in the transition, regardless of the first state's length

[fossil hill]

Was that the exit time toggle?

[agile solstice]

Disable exit time, set transition duration to 0

[fossil hill]

Like this?

[agile solstice]

And drag the blue arrows all the way to the left

Or the blue region between the arrows

Unintuitively you can only grab them if you increase the duration first a little

[fossil hill]

I am always very confused by this UI in particular lmao

The top clip dissapeared when dragging them all to the left, does that work?

[agile solstice]

I believe so

I suspect it's visually bugged because it's an empty state

I think there's very few situations when you should be using empty states

[fossil hill]

It's the simplest way to just have an state where I just wait for something to happen right?

Like this in particular just calls a fade in and fade out, and that only happens at very specific times with nothing in between

[agile solstice]

I guess so
More logical to me would be to have faded-in and faded-out states and then transition between them to do the fade

Then you always know what the properties are meant to be
With empty states it's a bit ambiguous

[fossil hill]

Yeah, makes more sense, but this is just reusable for many states later on tbh

Like I can just reuse the empty animation clip when I want any animator to wait for anything and all the logic needed is in the transitions

[agile solstice]

Do you have more examples where you need to wait in that way?

[fossil hill]

Not currently, no

But I can think of a few that just do X and sit there waiting for the next prompt to continue

[agile solstice]

I view them as unclear and not very useful but chances are I'm just not encountering situations where they're needed, or really thinking of using them even in such a situation

[fossil hill]

For UI sequences could be usefull, like, "show end panel transition" -> "empty" [Wait for player prompt] -> "show score panel transition"

Just a quick example

But thxs!

[terse gust]

Hi everyone!, how should i manually update unity's animator and rig builder, updating the animator manually (and ofc disabling the animator) stops the rig from updating or something?, because animation rigging stops working, so how should i manually update both?, also if possible can we set the time of the animation? i know there is a motion time for states but that only works for that state, is there any proper way to set/get time of the animation?,
i am doing all of this to get tick accurate animation.

[barren mortar]

See: https://github.com/Wolfos/Adventure-RPG/blob/master/Utility/AnimationSync.cs

Animation Rigging is bugged though

[agile solstice]

How bugged?

[barren mortar]

I found it practically unusable. Tonnes of weird things happening

Ended up writing my own

[agile solstice]

Only bugs I recall encountering were mostly UI issues related to its custom gizmos you can give to targets
But your mileage may vary

[sand geyser]

Help? Can anyone tell me whats the reason why my sword like bugs at the last second of my animation? is that a repeating process like a loop or something happening? how can i fix that?

[barren mortar]

Yeah it's probably set to loop

First disable that, then check the curves

[agile solstice]

You can select the clip itself or double click the state, to see the Loop Time setting

It's also possible you have delays or repetition in the transitions

[sand geyser]

where can i check that, im still unfamiliar with these stuffs

[agile solstice]

I just gave you directions where

[barren mortar]

I too just click around until I find these things

[sand geyser]

mb didnt saw that
its fixed now thanks

[barren mortar]

It's a checkbox called "loop time"

[terse gust]

well that code is just updating the animator manually Not animator and rig builder/animation rigging etc

[turbid moth]

Hi, I have a problem. When I press these transition arrows, Unity crashes. This happens consistently on my friend's device as well.

This doesn't happen when I press the transition arrow from Entry. Only Any state. I tried making a new empty state and making transitions from there and that works fine. It only happens from any state

[sterile vine]

what version of unity are you on?

[turbid moth]

6000.2.3f1

[sterile vine]

unity 6.2 seems to have some inspector instabilities, this may be part of it.

perhaps check logs

!logs

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Unity Hub

Windows: %UserProfile%\AppData\Roaming\UnityHub\logs
Mac: ~/Library/Application support/UnityHub/logs
Linux: ~/.config/UnityHub/logs

[barren mortar]

I'd try updating to the latest 6.2 at least. It's been rough.

[turbid moth]

editor or hub?

[sterile vine]

editor

[turbid moth]

alright

[sterile vine]

the issue is happening with the editor, so you'd need to check editor logs

[turbid moth]

Won't this break our game tho?

[sterile vine]

a patch update shouldn't, but yeah you should make backups whenever changing versions

[barren mortar]

Nothing you won't be able to fix.

[turbid moth]

I am very new to Unity and my only source atm is my teacher

Oh alright

[barren mortar]

Unity updates are usually not a very big deal.

[turbid moth]

We have backups on github so I'll try updating then. Thanks

[terse gust]

yeah been having them a lot, should have stayed on lts, XD, keeps throwing pointless errors when lists are rendered etc

[barren mortar]

Though if you keep updating a project over several years, issues can eventually start piling up.
Like going Unity 2019 - 2020 - 2021 - 6. Try avoiding that.

[terse gust]

btw i have still been unable to manually update the animator and Rig builder,

updating the animator is simple, but when disabling the animator to do manual updates for it the animation rigging stuff stops working

but enabling the animator makes it work which is odd, and i can't enable the animator cause then the animations are double updated and run faster XD

[barren mortar]

If you look at the code I posted earlier, I call Animator.Update with a negative value to rollback the previous change in FixedUpdate.

[terse gust]

mhm?, are you saying to not disable the animator?

[barren mortar]

Unfortunately this does cause Animator.Update to run an average of three times per frame, so use sparingly.

[barren mortar]

Yep

[terse gust]

glorp

[terse gust]

but is it not possible to do it with a disabled animator and not have to call the thing 3 times per frame?

[barren mortar]

Not that I know of.

[terse gust]

[brave rose]

hi, I'm trying to make my player interact with the doors in my game, but I face an issue, when the players interacts for the first time with a door, it opens and then closes itself back, here's my door script, when the player interacts with the door, it calls OpenDoor() function: https://paste.ofcode.org/PyeWYupX4vcurNwPgDXQMQ , here is my animator setup for the doors

also, after the first player's interaction, it works well

[sterile vine]

you said earlier that the doors don't have scripts...?

are you seeing the "OpenDoor called" log multiple times when you first interact with a door

[brave rose]

first, the issue with my bool setup was that all the doors were getting opened at the beginning of the game, but as I was testing for one door only, only one door had a script on it, the others didn't, they have had an animator component only and they also were getting opened, so that's why I told u they had no scripts, but now I changed back to triggers as I don't like bools, and the problem only appears when the player first interacts with the door, so I just sent the script to be more complete as the problem might come from it even if I'm almost sure it doesn't, people always ask for everything and ask for more details

[brave rose]

no

only one time

[sterile vine]

if you check the animator at runtime, does it go to the close state / does the close parameter get triggered when you interact the first time

[brave rose]

to be honest, I don't know why but I'm almost sure the problem is the transition from empty state to the open one, this is the only thing that might cause it, I've just tested with Animator.Play("open") and the problem appears too, so this is probably it

[sterile vine]

cool, but that doesn't answer my question

i'm asking to verify that it's just that transition that's taken

[brave rose]

yes it's a great question and I was simply setting back the old setup

when the player interacts for the first time, it goes in open

open state but the door is closed

[sterile vine]

so you see it stays in the open state while the door closes?

and the closing is part of the open state's animationclip?

[brave rose]

well, it goes from empty state to open state, but the door opens itself and closes itself back, so it's closed

[brave rose]

no....

[sterile vine]

i worded that question poorly

[brave rose]

it works pretty well after the first interaction, just the script bool variables are probably reversed you know

[sterile vine]

right, but what's the state shown in the animator when it closes

[brave rose]

open

[sterile vine]

is it still like, "in progress" of the open state

[brave rose]

it's in open

[sterile vine]

or does the closing happen when the open state is "done"

[brave rose]

ohhh between them u mean wait

[sterile vine]

the blue bar at the bottom of the active state indicates progress of the animation clip

does the door closing happen while the blue bar is full, or when it's not full yet (and then the bluebar finishes when the door closes fully?)

[brave rose]

the door closing finishes when the blue bar on the open is full

it's like mixing both the animations in the first interactions but not the others

[sterile vine]

real quick, make sure you don't have other layers on the animator

[brave rose]

and it's also the only time the animations seem to be 2x faster

[brave rose]

I dont

do u think the problem comes from the fact I've set the animation states speed to 0.5? that might cause an issue in the first transition idk

[sterile vine]

wouldn't hurt to check

so to confirm - in the first interaction, half the progress of the open state is spent opening the door, and the the second half is spent closing it?
and in following interactions, the full progress of the open state is just spent opening the door?

[brave rose]

just set the empty state speed to 0.5 too,Knew it wouldn't change anything but yea/....

[sterile vine]

what happens when you interact the door the second time?

[brave rose]

yes exactly

but no

well yes

but the bools in script are probably inversed to the visuals you know

when open == true in my script, the door visual is closed

so yea you're right, sorry for the bad information

changing the speed back to 1 didn't change anything

same thing but 2x faster

[sterile vine]

that's because of the first time you opened them, also closing them, no?

does that still happen after the first interaction?

[sterile vine]

you didn't answer this

[brave rose]

yesss

[brave rose]

it's 100% normal, it works great

[sterile vine]

no, what happens

does it close or does it do nothing

[brave rose]

the only problem is the first interaction, it mixes both animations

wait

so first time, it opens and closes itself back, then second interactions, it only opens it

[sterile vine]

and it opens in the close state of the animator?

sounds like you swapped the open and close animation clips

[brave rose]

yes

[sterile vine]

then yeah sounds like you just swapped the clips

[brave rose]

🤦‍♂️ 😭

wowww, my brain is really washed man

my open animation clip is called close and vice versa

[agile solstice]

It happens

[brave rose]

my brain forgot for a second what close and open is

[brave rose]

yeaa...

sorry @sterile vine

ty so much too

[mighty ivy]

i did specifically ask you to make sure you didn't do that yesterday

[brave rose]

.....mannnn,I'm really sorry I didn't see(well sorry because I've wasted your time but also because I've wasted my time for something you had already figured out), I just saw it now

sorry 😭

[mighty ivy]

you did see it, you directly responded to it with different info and I had to point out that I was referring to something else and you explicitly said you didn't mix them up. in the future you need to verify information, don't make assumptions.

[agile solstice]

It happens (continuously)

Questioning your own assumptions to debug precisely is a skill you learn, as long as you try to
Saves many headaches in the long run

[brave rose]

oh yea well see, once again I'm wrong, when you said it, I thought you meant I didn't mix animators, once again my bad, but even if I understood what you said,I think I wouldn't have tried to swap them as their names were accordingly put, and by the way I don't make assumptions, I've looked at your message and once again I wasn't able to find my answer to it, just not my day, I'm sick

[brave rose]

yea man frr

[sterile vine]

by the way I don't make assumptions
this is just false. everyone makes assumptions, and youve made several over the course of debugging here lol

assumptions are normal, but you have to be able to challenge them

[brave rose]

aight man, will do that thanks, it's a learning experience for me

[eager jay]

what does loop pose do?

i only see the graph at the end of the animation clip change

thought it would smoothly return to the first keyframe instead of snapping back?

[agile solstice]

It does
But you won't see that reflected in the animation window or its curves because it's a blending operation by the Animator

[eager jay]

what do you mean?

[agile solstice]

Animation window shows you keyframe data of the clips
But Loop Pose doesn't modify the clips
It blends the start and end keyframes at runtime

Similar to how transitions and blend trees are calculated at runtime by the Animator

[eager jay]

ahhh i see

kinda weird

thank you

[agile solstice]

It's useful that it's non-destructive
You can keep modifying the clip as well as toggle loop pose on and off at will without having to alter any clip permanently

[void pelican]

hey all, sometimes when i am adjust the speed multiplpier of my animation clips in the timeline, my mouse cursor changes into this right angle cursor with an arrow making me unable to click on the record button. anyone know how to revert back to the regular arrow cursor?

[terse gust]

Hi everyone, i am trying to set the animator's animation time, in doing so my blend tree has a parameter enabled for Motion Time, but i just noticed that it's not true time in seconds, it's a normalized time between the animation running which isn't good, cause i wan't to control the time of the animator's animation , so like currently adding time to the parameter constantly, and as soon as we go to sprinting which has 38 frames, it's slower because 60 frames is 1 second, i hope you understand my explanation XD, but i just need a way to set the animator's time etc

[radiant isle]

Hi,
Anyone has any idea how this smooth snake animations are made here ?

Is it just tail and head independent smooth movement (+ Rotate) and swap sprites on each cells at the right moment ? Or it is something else ?

[plush verge]

Hey, Beginner here and using animator but its really confusing.
As it expands when i will add attacks, combos, hurt, death and more stuff.
Is there any better way to do it? any exercises or books i can follow to improve this logic?

plus setting it up in script, turning stuff on/off is also messy.

should i switch to animator.CrossFideInFixedTime?

whats its drawbacks

as a beginner whose learning this, should i switch to other ways or continue with what i am doing ?

[sterile vine]

perhaps consider what states are exclusive with each other and separate them out into substate machines, for example

[terse gust]

an airborne substate machine

[sterile vine]

if you keep track of state yourself you'll basically be doing the same logic, but without visual arrows. that could be either a good or a bad thing, depending on the specific task

[plush verge]

i see, thank you

[plush verge]

okay, thanks

[plush verge]

oh yes. thanks Chris

[terse gust]

you can check unity's video on it let me link it

[plush verge]

yes, that will be really helpful brother.

[terse gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpekqN4_4xg&t=220s

i think this explains everything needed

for using sub state machines

[plush verge]

Hamza from Pakistan? ur name has Khan so

[plush verge]

okay, I will check it out

[terse gust]

haha howd you know, but i live in malaysia

assalamualikum

[plush verge]

well my name also has Khan haha

Walaikum AsSalam

[radiant isle]

Anyone ?

[stuck kettle]

Does anyone have an idea of the best way to learn animation as a beginner

[sterile vine]

please don't mention random people you aren't discussing with. you can start in unity learn or various tutorials for the animation system, or if you have a more specific thing you're trying to learn, then google for that

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[terse gust]

Hi all, i have a character that is fully using playables for animation and is humanoid, the animator has no controller with it, i want to know how to make the animation rigging package work with this setup

currently the rig builder just stays there idle

ive tried doing rigbuilder.Build(myGraph), but this doesn't seem to be the solution as it doesn't work

[terse gust]

Mhm

still waiting

[terse gust]

sadgely noone prolly knows how to do it

it's soo horrible to use playables and then not be able to use ANIMATIon rigging

help plz

[undone sedge]

Hey im just curious if people generally use the unity animator or if they just code their animations into the script

I've found the animator very uncooperative myself, and have been scripting my animations, but I also just started with unity so I might be missing an angle or creating a long term problem for myself

[agile solstice]

What people use and what they should use are two different questions, which both vary

If they can't or won't learn how and what for the animator is meant to be used, they usually end up coding their own system for animation states instead

[undone sedge]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking, I ran into a bunch of issues with the animator when I originally tried using it so I switched to code, but now I'm wondering if I'd be better off just figuring out the animator

[agile solstice]

It really depends how much of its features you'd benefit from

• It is a finite state machine, which you almost always need in some form anyway if you have more than a few animations to play
• It is focused on blending animation clips in many ways, which is unhelpful if your animated properties are non-blendable, like sprite references
• The power in its transition rules is that you can limit and specify what kind of and where to a transition should happen, rather than how you might intuitively try to make transitions from anywhere to everywhere to give your code "control" over the state that's playing, but that prevents the animator from doing anything useful with the transitions and is a lot of work

Animator and even its documentation has a communication issue, just using it while skimming the docs doesn't give you a picture why transitions would be an advantage, not a detriment

And there aren't really guides out there giving you insight into the correct kind of mindset for it to click, either

I guess the best advice I have is to study the official resources so you really know what the animator's features are, because the key is using all of them to their strengths

So you don't have to treat everything like a nail because you're only familiar the hammer in the toolbox

In general the philosophy is that if you can do something with the animator instead of code, you should
The parameters you set in code should communicate intent to the animator, rather than function as commands
So there's room for discretion for how the animator interprets the parameters

That way you retain compatibility with other animator features, and avoid having to code these conditional exceptions to which clip state should be played

[agile solstice]

@undone sedge practical example: A character can get knocked down by getting hit
It could be a sequence of struck>downed>recover
Struck to downed could be an automatic transition with no parameters needed
To recover could be initiated by incapacitation timer or reusable "readiness" parameter reaching a neutral value
You could make downed a blend tree that has crawling animations so various velocities of movement while down have unique animations, while using the same movement parameter as for all moving
You could allow recover state and transition to it to be interrupted by character's normal movement, with a blend or even a change in recovery animation speed to make it snappier
These could be in a sub-state machine that includes multiple sequences depending on the type of hit and incapacitation, while an integer parameter chooses the sequence, states can transition into the sub-state machine itself without having to have a discrete transition for every variant of the sequence

Additionally you could have a synced animation layer to keep the state machine but replace the clips in the states with different ones, like crouched, prone or wounded variants for example

[undone sedge]

Yeah that makes sense, thanks for the response I’ll definitely put some time into learning the animator tool

[agile solstice]

On the flipside if you know there isn't really anything you need to automate or make contextual with the animator as your code would handle that, then you could just as well play states directly from code and forgo transitions and parameters mostly
But in that case parameters can be used for more than transitions as well, such as blend trees or for controlling individual states' properties like speed

[main quiver]

If I rotate only along one axis (by clicking and dragging the rotation blue line), all three (x, y, z) values get changed. I'm not sure why.

[agile solstice]

The rotation property is a local rotation
Your rotation gizmo is in Global mode which lets you rotate objects relative to world space and then converts them to a local space rotation

[main quiver]

If I change it to local it still affects all.

Maybe it's expected? I'm not sure.

If I manually do it in Transform panel, I can individually do it for each axis independently.

[agile solstice]

Ah, that's correct
Something I've tripped up a bunch on before
I think the component properties are specifically euler angles relative to the parent transform (if any), calculated based on Y being the "up" vector

Meaning Y rotation is always rotating around the parent (or scene) Y axis regardless of other rotations
X is always rotating up or down relative to "horizon" defined by Y
Z rotates around the object's own forward axis

If I understand it correctly

[main quiver]

So that's why it behaves like this. So I guess I have to change rotation through Transform panel only if I want to affect only one axis?

[agile solstice]

The pivot Local mode on the other hand produces rotation gizmos relative to the objet's own rotational axes, and converts them to parent relative rotations when you turn them

[agile solstice]

That's the simple way
World space rotation gizmo should only change Y value when turning the green gizmo (if no rotated parent transforms) but change on the other axis gizmos are not guaranteed to resolve just one axis of resulting rotation

Because world relative X or local pivot X neither might be the same as parent transform X in that case

Also worth to note that the rotations are internally converted to quaternions in the end from euler angles

And the animator can be set to interpolate keyframes as either euler angles or as quaternions

If you only keyframe a change on individual transform axes, then euler angle interpolation likely produces clean results
But if keyframes need to interpolate between two multi-axis rotations generated by the rotation gizmo tool, then euler angle interpolation can get weird

There's more than one valid path to go from one rotation to another depending on the convention
Effectively euler angles retain the information about which turns have been taken which can be useful for mechanical and spinning motions, while quaternions are best at doing the minimum required rotation to get from A to B that's organic and natural

[main quiver]

I'm not able to understand this technical information, but still thanks. I just manually changed values in Tranform panel for now.

[agile solstice]

No need to memorize it now, but something to keep in mind in case your keyframed rotations get weird at some point in the future when a clip is playing
You should be able to right click the keyframe or the property in animation window to swap between euler and quaternion interpolation to compare the result when that kind of situation comes up

[main quiver]

Yeah

[main quiver]

I want two animations to play at same time when I press "Play". This banana object has two animations. The default one plays currently but not the colorchange one.

ChatGPT suggests some Blend Tree

[agile solstice]

That's not correct really, blend trees are for blending between states
A state machine layer in general can only have play one animation state at a time, unless it's blending between multiple
You can place the states on different animation layers however

[main quiver]

The tutorial exercise says:

Identify several items that you can animate. You must create a minimum of five keyframed animations, but multiple animations can be on the same object, so long as you create an Animator Controller that will allow someone to see them all.

So I tried to make two animations on one object. Now I don't seem to play both in Game at same time.

[agile solstice]

It doesn't mention playing them at the same time, which different from just having more than one in a Controller

[main quiver]

Yeah maybe

[agile solstice]

Though it's ambiguous wording

[main quiver]

Usually it teaches before giving any exercise but this time didn't give any teaching this time.

I'll see it later

[agile solstice]

What tutorial excercise are you following

[main quiver]

https://learn.unity.com/pathway/creative-core/unit/animation/tutorial/challenge-bring-the-scene-to-life?version=6.0

This one currently

They demand a lot but I do bare minimums as they're boring lol

[astral echo]

I'm so tired of the animator system... just encountered a new bug where sometimes an animation transition will be delayed for absolutely no reason (0 exit time, 0 transition duration)

[agile solstice]

Are you quite sure it's for no reason

[astral echo]

well I guess not, do you know any reasons why there would be a 0.07s delay that appears when setting exit time from 0.001 to 0 when "has exit time" is disabled?

I'll try to update the editor and see if that does anything

[agile solstice]

Update to what from what?

[astral echo]

6000.2.0f1 to latest patch

[agile solstice]

Well that'd be smart
Using 6.2. not so much
It has had more issues than maybe any release I've seen
Or maybe people don't realise it's a tech stream version
I'd only recommend 6.0 before the next LTS comes out

[astral echo]

there was some reason why I updated to 6.2 but I can't remember it now lol

anyway the animator system has always been broken for me no matter what version I'm on

which I know unity is aware of

[agile solstice]

About the delay I'm not sure
It seems so short that I maybe wouldn't have noticed it if it did occur
How is the issue presenting itself?

[astral echo]

I need to instantly trigger an animation. a 70ms delay is quite substantial imo, and I do notice it, especially in the transition timeline.

sometimes it instantly starts the new animation, sometimes it just hangs on the previous one. literally no reason for it to happen.

[agile solstice]

So it appears visually in the inspector too?

[astral echo]

yes

[agile solstice]

A screenshot of that and the settings could be useful

[astral echo]

yeah 1 sec I'll record it

[astral echo]

also misread the stupid timeline, it was 0.15s not 0.07s. to get the 2nd animation to start right away I need to set exit time to a very low number. I don't believe this is intended behavior, and if it is, I would like to talk to whoever came up with it

[agile solstice]

Doesn't look intended, not something I've seen
I'd try disabling exit time, then clicking and dragging the clip on that timeline so they line up, then test it in scene during play mode

That's the workflow that I haven't had issues with anyway

[astral echo]

what do you mean by line up?

[agile solstice]

The blue bar (destination state) moves relative to the grey one (origin state) when you change the exit time variable
You can click and drag them to specify the delay manually, in a way

Even when exit time is disabled and the variable greyed out

[astral echo]

that would be transition offset I believe

that's the variable that changes when you do that

the thing is that no matter what offset I have, the delay is always there

[agile solstice]

My mistake

[astral echo]

no worries

the whole exit time system is pretty broken anyway

since it still has an effect when disabled

[agile solstice]

It's the only part I don't really fully understand, that I know of

[astral echo]

anyway updating didn't resolve it, guess I'll wait for some eventual overhaul of the animator system

[agile solstice]

This is the workflow I meant

[astral echo]

oh ok

[agile solstice]

Never failed me yet, though I have no idea why that's the way to change exit time with exit time disabled, apparently

Then I'd test in scene/play mode, I don't fully trust the mini window preview

[astral echo]

yeah... I'll try to figure it out later

thanks for the ideas tho

[tribal salmon]

I need to get an animation to a friend so they can set up the animation controller for their game. They made a model using VStudio and gave it to me. It was already rigged and textured so I added IK bones to start animating. Now they said they needed just the animation clip so I made a blank unity project with the built-in 3d render pipeline and dropped the fbx of the animations into the project. I then just duplicated the animation clips and dragged them into a separate folder to send to them, but when they got the animations it did not work on their model as intended. Legs were broken, things not moving, etc. Any ideas how I messed up? I am not familiar with Unity at all I just do art.

[agile solstice]

If the animations are made to rely on IK bones or other extra things you implemented, those would have to be included when sending them over, likely as a prefab and including the mesh import settings
So preferably everything as one .unitypackage

But it's hard to speculate about the issue without knowing what systems your animations were made with, or what kind of project they need to work in

[tribal salmon]

They told me to do this, but I was a little confused what it all meant. Maybe these steps make more sense to you;

go in prefab
put the FBX in the prefab
copy the Armature and paste it to be next to the VRM's Root
you can now remove the FBX again
in the Armature, delete its Root
move the VRM's root into the Armature
in the VRM prefab's parent thing, set the Animator component's Avatar to none

Also, sorry, I used Blender for my animations not sure exactly how to answer your second question, but it's a 2.5D fighter. These 3D models will be going side to side on the screen and playing attack, run, jump, etc animations.

[agile solstice]

Hmm then disregard earlier I suppose
I don't know anything about VRMs, and if the IK is done outside of unity those particular bones wouldn't be important to export

[keen bay]

am i the only one who thinks this animation somehow looks weird....?

@weak sable it worked out btw! thx a lot for your help!

[spice karma]

I am trying to follow a youtube tutorial but they're animation editor is completely different. Is there a way to get this editor without downloading another version of unity

[keen bay]

you might wanna go to window->general and check out the different things you can add such as heirarchy and other stuff. it's a matter of rearranging those different things

[agile solstice]

You are looking at Animator window
The tutorial has Animation window open

But it additionally has Animator in another tab

[proud briar]

Does anyone know how to fix this? in online tutorials on how to use "Video to Motion" feature in unity, It shows that there is a model selected when going into this tab, but for me I don't see it.

[spice karma]

It won't let me drag the idle sprite into the animation, please help

[agile solstice]

You have to select a gameobject to animate, and the sprite you have to drag will be revealed by clicking this arrow button

[spice karma]

Sorry can you be more specific I clicked the arrow and I still can't drag either image

[agile solstice]

Specifically you must select a gameobject to animate that has a sprite renderer component to be able to drag sprites onto its timeline
Dragging the sprite from Project window to Hierarchy would automatically create one

If you are following a tutorial, follow the steps exactly
If you are not following a tutorial, follow a tutorial

[spice karma]

I did follow a tutorial he didn't change it to a game object

[agile solstice]

"Didn't change to a gameobject" doesn't make sense to me
Only gameobjects can be animated
Likely you missed some step

[spice karma]

the only thing I couldn't follow is when he pressed create button mine didn't have that option

[agile solstice]

It will not show up if you have not clicked to select the gameobject

[spice karma]

I clicked the sprite it still didn't show up

[agile solstice]

Which "sprite"
The gameobject in Hierarchy or the asset in Project?

[spice karma]

oh got it thank you

[cunning coyote]

Hi! Stop loop animation on unity

[eager flicker]

Hi, i have once again come up with a new set of problems. this time in animation.
Goal: to have zombies walk to a wall and start attacking it.
My process: I downloaded 3 zombies (all of them are fairly the same size) and got them rigged in mixamo and downloaded their T-poses. Later used 1 model to get walking attacking etc to apply on the other 2 zombies as well. When i import them to unity, i assign humanoid and create avatar for each. I then change the animations to humanoid and copy avatar from the original.
Problem: When I apply the animation across all 3 the other 2 zombies are walking slightly above the ground as if they were floating. Why is this happening and how do i fix it?

some go through the navmesh

[quasi crystal]

uh hi, i have a problem, im trynna make this character playable, i have made an rigid body for it and have made basic walking animation, what did i do wrong?

[turbid moth]

We updated the project and the issue was fixed. Now another issue arose because changing 1 line of code takes forever to compile. And our project is just 5 code files and 3 animations (small af)

So I went ahead and downgraded back to the old version. Hopefully this fixes that...

[round sinew]

I've been trying to make water caustics in an underwater 2D scene, but I am struggling to make it less choppy. Animating it by hand is a bit tedious and it doesn't look as smooth as it can be. Any tips on how to implement pixel-perfect water caustics?

[timid epoch]

I'm having this issue where when my character lands, it shows the jumping frame for just a fraction of a second, is there any way to make it go immediately from falling to idle?

[umbral ocean]

My animator is registering the isWalking state but it won’t transition with the parameter of isWalking=false to idle?

[woven seal]

alright i was told to reword my questions so here:

Hi, I am attempting to make a mod for the VR game RumbleVR. The premise of this mod is that on a button press, the mod will duplicate the player model, load an asset bundle with an animated rig, and then parent the bones of the clone to the rig to animate it. However, I have had many issues with the rig. Currently, it looks like the rig is mirrored, or rotated wrongly. I have tried manually reassigning and mirroring the rig in blender. No matter what I do, when the asset bundle is put into the game it is backwards. So my question is this: How can I fix the rotation either on the rig so that it can work properly or in my code to fix it when the rig is loaded?

Attached I have videos of the issues in unity and in the game. If you would like my code to look at I will send it privately upon request, I would appreciate any insight.

[celest crag]

That was something worth mentioning right from the start, because there's no modding discussion on the server. And if your problems have nothing to do with vanilla Unity you are unlikely even to find someone who understands your problem.

[misty coral]

How do I make my animation tree neater?

I also need transitions between everything too. all aiming and walking need to be linked to each other as well, this is for a 2D project

[dusky pine]

Related to the user above, is there a way i can use Animator.SetInteger for state management but still have a reference to the actual human-readable animation name?

[sterile vine]

not that i know of, i usually use an enum in code and pray that i get the numbers right (and make sure to not add new enum members in between the existing ones)

[left cradle]

Trying to create and work with my own simple asset for practice and running into issues here (very simple 3d bird character). I've exported a master fbx (mesh + skeleton), and I've exported a few animations for testing (just skeleton). I've tested these fbx files back in Maya and they play back just fine. However in Unity, the animations are playing back with the mesh/skeleton all mangled up. I'm happy to share images/gifs/files if it helps. The character also has vertex painting but I can't seem to get that showing up in unity either (but I can ask that in a different channel)

[inland juniper]

https://medal.tv/games/screen-capture/clips/lv5JtfERktLCpFkv_?invite=cr-MSxpdUgsMjczNjI5NzM5&v=27 anyone know whats wrong

[celest crag]

Should always describe the problem yourself, don't make people guess, ask a full question.

[inland juniper]

the animation isnt playing properly the attack one

its messed up

off centre

[sterile vine]

did you use autoslicing on the spritesheet

use grid slicing instead

[celest crag]

It uses center of sprite by default, fix your anchor on sprites to be consistent. (Pivot point when editing the sprite)

[inland juniper]

its grid

[sterile vine]

that doesn't look like a grid sliced sprite

can you show your spritesheet and its slicing (in the sprite editor)

[inland juniper]

grid by cell count

[sterile vine]

that looks offcentered, there's a gap at the end. was this created by an app or just manually drawn into the same file

the issue is ultimately what fogsight mentioned, you need consistent pivots

but if you have a proper grid-aligned spritesheet, you can get that automatically by slicing the same way the spritesheet was made

[inland juniper]

ohh

thanks 😄

[limber turret]

I'm trying to get the humanoid rig for unity working with a rigify blender base rig and it creates an error due to the head not being connected to the spine (even though I tried parenting it) if its a issue with blenders base rigify rig what rigs can I use?

[hazy thistle]

We’re animating our character in Cascadeur and then bringing that animation into Unity, but we’re noticing visible jerks in the Unity version.

I’ve attached a video comparison showing both software — the animation looks smooth in Cascadeur, but in Unity it appears jerky and doesn't loop correctly

For context:

• The character is set to Humanoid
• Pose: T-Pose in the 0 Frame Both the character and animation
• Animation Compression Type: OFF
• Even with these settings, the animation doesn’t look the same, and there are noticeable Jerks in the looping.

Can someone help me understand the best practices or recommended workflow to ensure the animation stays accurate and smooth when importing into Unity?

[barren mortar]

Does the issue appear in animation preview?

[hazy thistle]

In Unity, Yes.

[potent imp]

is it possible to use 3D animations and project the motion to 2D characters or some API lets you do that or something with 2D skeletal rigs? like transfer 3D skeleton data to 2D skeleton?

[agile solstice]

Technically there isn't a difference between 3D and 2D bone animation, so there doesn't need to be an API for it
Both are simply keyframed Transform data
But depending on how your sprite rig needs to move, the 3D keyframes probably aren't directly useful in which case you'd project or otherwise process their transforms into a 2D plane as you need
But how that needs to be done uniquely depends on your style of 2D and the particular rig

[heavy nimbus]

I made an empty (no frame) animation from a humanoid model on the scene. And put that animation on other humanoid's timeline. Model's lower body folds into 90 degrees toward -x axis. To check, I drag-dropped the model(distorted one) from the scene into the animation's inspector . It plays normally...(no folding) What can possibly cause this??

[exotic geode]

Have you tried a code approach? This seems like a cleaner method in this video
https://youtu.be/nBkiSJ5z-hE?si=m--H7aUR4vCNvUjK

[agile solstice]

Not cleaner exactly, this essentially duplicates the animator state machine in code with a parallel state machine, and re-creates transition logic which animator already handles
This approach may seem intuitive if you're treating the animator more like an obstacle than a tool

Animator parameters are meant to communicate intent from the code to the animator, not call states or animations directly
The animator's power primarily is that the same parameters can contextually result in many different animations playing, without having to code those as exceptions

Ironically, by shifting all the state management to code, we would end up implementing design patterns like a "State Machine," effectively recreating what the Animator already provides. This could even lead us to build a custom UI to handle these states, bringing us full circle to where we started
A comment summed it up
Tragically it seems this tutorial was borne from unfamiliarity with the system that is being replaced

[agile solstice]

The key to using the animator is to make use of its features, notably Entry/Exit states, blend trees, sub state machines and animation layers

In this case you could have just two blend trees, for the directional walking animations and the directional aiming animations

You don't have to make transitions from each state to each state, you can always transition from Entry and to Exit, unless you need a unique transition between two states

[potent imp]

i made a solution for this myself to escape that 🙂

working quite good so far

using playables and crossfadeintime it works good

make use of scriptable objects interface and events

try to apporach with KISS and SOLID in mind

result you get something like this

from annoying transition to no transitions

[agile solstice]

To escape what, learning how to make efficient animator controllers?

The animator is not the best tool for every use case, or very intuitive to learn, but it's not a logical suggestion to code your own replacement for it as a solution to lack of understanding

[barren mortar]

BEHOLD

I do wish we had a bit more flexibility in how to use it.

I tried Animator Override Controllers initially, but you lose control over timing that way. In the end, the best way to use it is just a big old graph with every single animation in it.

[untold bridge]

when I move my animated object to unity and play the animation it jumps to a different position/rotation/scale. How can I have it stop doing that?

[slim lava]

https://youtu.be/ilEpCcj48Bk

I've been trying to study up on this "animation style"
Im not really sure what the best (or easiest long term) approach would be.
To me, it seems like there's a general "breath" layer for all animations
Then all the animations are just made to be "bouncy" and "exaggerated" in something like blender.

But I think I can use curves to achieve a "similar" bouncy effect with any animation.

Anyone have any suggestions?

[drifting rivet]

for 2d animations, what do you guys use

[blissful oar]

guys im making a shooting animation for a gun in what fps i should export it? 24-30-60?

[wanton trellis]

this might be a dumb question, but from a purely irl and logical standpoint which direction should weapon sway happen in?

like if i look left should my gun rotate clockwise or counterclockwise

because im switching between both right now and its crazy but both feel right for some reason

this is how im doing it now

but once again doing it the opposite way also doesnt look wrong

so im really torn here lol

[barren mortar]

I don't think there's any layering happening here. It just blends between animations.
I'll recommend the same as I recommend to every aspiring animator, which is to read Disney Animation: The Illusion of Life.

[slim lava]

hmm. I see. I'll have to check that book out.

I guess I didn't realize most of their animations incorporate a "breath" in some way during + throughout the animation.
rewatching 2:50 shows that there is a fairly clear "start" to the breath that is different than the walking + idle animation.

Ill try to do a few test animations in blender this week.

[little path]

Trying to set up an avatar for an actual professional quality mesh I bought, and I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking at on the blender side. There's a bunch of widgets and arrows and whatnot that I've never seen before on any of the Mixamo or Asset Store models I've worked with in the past. But this is an animation-ready rig, I can fiddle with the stuff in blender and it moves as I'd expect it to, but Unity's Humanoid Avatar automapper can't make heads or tails of it. It creates a somewhat complete auto map, but can't recognize the head bone because it's not a direct child of the spine bone, the hierarchy structure seems wildly different than a usual Unity rig. Is there any saving this in Blender or do I need to throw it out and make a basic rigify rig if I want it to use a Humanoid Avatar?

Here's what that hierarchy looks like in Unity (a bit collapsed so it all fits on screen), I believe the ones prefixed DEF are the actual deformation bones I'd want to use in the avatar, but they're all over the place, mixed in with the MCH and ORG bones that I don't really understand the meaning of.

[wanton trellis]

when you say professional quality mesh, that doesnt mean much for games for these exact reasons

those arrows and widgets you see are rig controls

for stuff like the ik

anyways the rig itself, is pretty clearly not game ready

especially if you want to use a humanoid avatar

[little path]

It's listed as "Suitable for game and animation projects" and it's actually got some pretty well-done topology (a reasonable triangle amount without sacrificing quality).

So, it looks like I'll need to re-rig it?

[wanton trellis]

i mean they could have listed lord knows what lol

[little path]

Maybe if this prototype works out I can get someone who can animate in Blender and just make the animations baked into the FBX so I don't need to avatar it

[little path]

Yeah, I get that it's basically just marketing wank and isn't in any way binding

[wanton trellis]

like if that individual is a modeller they probably dont really know what game ready means apart from low poly good topology

[wanton trellis]

exactly

[wanton trellis]

youre better off doing something on your own right now

i would say for the purposes of using it in unity as a humanoid avatar, slap a rig with automatic weights on it

[little path]

Yeah, for now I'll re-rig it and use the humanoid animations I've got

[wanton trellis]

and have something at least

[little path]

I know the canned animations I have won't cut it for an actual finished project anyway, I just mean that if this ever gets off the ground I could find someone to animate everything in blender to utilize the rig as-is, and not use an avatar with my placeholder animations.

[wanton trellis]

thats pretty hopeful thinking there

no offense but you shouldnt really be thinking in advance in the context of anything "taking off"

you will back yourself up in a corner pretty fast

[little path]

By "Taking off" I mean "I get this to a point far enough along that I'm willing to throw actual money at it instead of ten bucks here and there"

Because who knows how long the motivation to work on this will last

[fallen jolt]

can you create animations of a character doing certain actions in unity? when trying to do that, i get the error that keyframing of humonoid rig is not supported

[quick haven]

does anyone know what these error messages mean? I'm trying to make edits to the animation transition in the inspector and everytime I click on something they pop up

[agile solstice]

Nothing in particular, probably
Prefer to use 6.0 for projects, it's the latest stable version

[quick haven]

I can’t change anything and it pops up everytime I click

[agile solstice]

I'd try restarting the editor
If you can reproduce it, file a bug report

To me the error seems to tell little more than "the editor UI is broken somehow"

[quick haven]

Could ty, yeah it’s a persistent error

[twin musk]

if ive got an animation with an unusal pixel ratio, what should i set the pixels per unit for the image?

[agile solstice]

PPU remains the same across all your sprites regardless of the texture dimensions, generally

That's kinda the point of it

[twin musk]

oof i see

i think i misunderstood the purpose of it..

thanks anyways

[agile solstice]

You could explain more what the problem you're trying to solve is

[twin musk]

well i had an object with the scale ratio being 1:10 so i thought to make an animation in the same scale ratio, but it doesnt really go fit perfectly as i thought it would

[agile solstice]

Hmm "scale ratio"? Relative to what

PPU basically helps you ensure sprite pixels are the same regardless of texture size (or if the pixel sizes are different, you'll know exactly how much)

[twin musk]

the objects transform is 1x 10y

[twin musk]

okay, so i want to keep them the same over my sprites so nothing looks out of place?

[agile solstice]

In an example with PPU 50, a 100x100 sprite and a 200x300 sprite
You can assume each Unity unit will be 50 sprite pixels in length
Meaning the first sprite will always be the size of a two unit square
The second would be a 4 units by 6 units rectangle

[twin musk]

ooh kay i get it

[agile solstice]

If you increase a sprite's PPU to 100, it'll be half the relative size given its dimensions, but have twice the resolution or pixel density

[twin musk]

that makes a lot more sense

thanks a lot

[agile solstice]

Why do you need to scale the transforms? It seems you'd prefer to author the sprites in the taller shape to begin with to not stretch the texture pixels by non-uniform scaling

[twin musk]

lets say it seemed great in my head 😔

[agile solstice]

Technically PPU does nothing but pre-scale the sprite when it's rendered by the Sprite Renderer
It makes it easier to calculate sprite resolution and size relative to camera size and the unit grid
It's mostly a tool for you to keep things standardized, so too many exceptions to a common PPU among the sprites can make things chaotic, though sometimes it's useful to have more resolution for example in areas where the camera might zoom

It's only really necessary for the Pixel Perfect Camera, if used

[twin musk]

i see thanks a lot you made it very clear

def would recommend you :))

[tawdry lava]

Im curious is anyone has ran into this problem before 😓
Imagine you have 3 states, idle, punch, slap. Each one of these has a transition from AnyState, with exit time being 0. Basically I have a script with 3 buttons, and when I press each of the buttons, a respective boolean is set to true, and the other 2 set to false. If you press a single button, the transition is seamless. Now if you press one button then immediately a second, the interruption now QUEUES the transition instead of performing it instantly... is there any way to immediately force the transition, regardless of what current and next state transition is?

Unity does something, at least how it appears to me, incredibly stupid by having their "Orderred Interruption" feature... in the video, you can see the transition from stab => swing works EXACTLY as intended because on AnyState, Swing is orderred above stab. Now the swing => stab transition waits for the "current" transition to finish before starting the transition, causing there to be a delay

you can see that the hit tracers for swing => stab are not correct, as i show the correct tracers/animation directly after that attack

mechanim is genuienly pissing me off

because it can BE perfect, but theres so many trivial things i have to fight against with it.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated, perhaps im missing something 😅

[tawdry lava]

ill just make a forum post, seems nobody here has a solution

[tawdry lava]

For a better understanding, since swing is above stab on orderred interruption, the transition behaves correct on one, as apposed to both

[tawdry lava]

I believe i may have found a solution. If anyone sees this in the future, Any State behaves extremely weird. Explicitly make transitions for every state and specify "Next State" as interruption source for EVERYTHING

Any state is convenient but does NOT work as far as i know

[tawdry lava]

Further update, I guess Animator.CrossFade works the exact same way

Ima just move to scripting

[latent coyote]

Hello there ! I’m a French student, it’s my first year in video game creation ✌️ I’ve got a project assigned but it’s only been a few weeks since i started coding and using unity. I was wondering if anyone was willing to help 😁 I’ve got one question, is there a way (easy to understand as a newbie ^^) to change a sprite from the script itself ? I have to make a health bar that decreases each second. I’ve got 11 different sprites (from 10 to 0 hearts). The bar decreases each second passing but if i press a button it goes back up. I was thinking about adding a timer, when timer = 0 then render sprite 10, then timer++. When timer = 10 render sprite 0 and its game over. Am i supposed to work with animations ?

[sterile vine]

there's multiple ways to do any given task. you could use animations or do sprite swapping through code, but wouldn't just using a filled/tiled sprite be easier here?

well, even with that, you would still have the option of using animations or code

but just changing a single number would be easier than sprite swapping

assuming the hearts are all the same, at least

[latent coyote]

Thank you for your quick answer, yes they’re all the same, lemme check what a filled sprite is

[sterile vine]

they're UI image types

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.ugui@2.0/manual/UIVisualComponents.html#image

[latent coyote]

Thanks, can i change their state using the code then ?

[sterile vine]

yeah

[tawdry valley]

New to blend trees. Does anyone know why my run animation here only plays the 1st frame? It works when checking the import preview and blend tree preview. I tried to make it as simple as possible and still do not understand why.

[sterile vine]

is it perhaps continuously transitioning to itself

[tawdry valley]

No, the threshold is set to a speed of 1 or more and when moving it remains at a constant 4.88 so it should be consistently running

[sterile vine]

im not referring to the threadhold, im referring to the state that holds this blend tree

try viewing the base layer to see if the state is playing out, or if it's stuck at the very start

if it's stuck at the very start, it's probably transitioning to itself

[tawdry valley]

Maybe because the default state (my blend tree) is not looping, the blue progress bar is complete the whole time? Before, when I had states like this and the animation was set to loop, it would loop.

I dont know how to do the same for blend trees and cant find anything relating to iy

[sterile vine]

possibly? does the state progress normally when initially entering playmode?

[tawdry valley]

no, the transition is instant

[sterile vine]

it goes from completely empty to completely full?

is your idle animation loop time

also, have you tried the loop pose option under loop time? i usually work in 2d so i haven't seen it before, but it sounds like it could be related

[tawdry valley]

Seems so, either that or I can't see it because of lag during loading.

[wheat flint]

QUESTION, its mandatory to apply a model an animation both of them having a Avatar Controller reference?

[twin musk]

Hey

[short idol]

Hi, can someone give me pointers on how to fix issues with my combat animations? When i play the animations, there is a noticeable disconnect between the two models due to either rotation/distance which means that it is very easy to see the issues due to the length of animations.
Have shared my unity animation playing example

From what i have seen, the melee combat often involves the body portion clipping through the other object but due to speed and short durtion and hiding stuff behind a clock etc, we are able to create a fluid combat system.
Once the animation length goes beyond 1 second mark, the issues start appearing more noticeably.

[fading badge]

why do my importerd animnations completely break on my generic avatar after setting the root node?

here are my settings

[soft karma]

Anyone know how to retarget generic animations like for a animal

[onyx hemlock]

how can i make the animation not smooth?

[proven hornet]

Copy the keys and place them the frame (in the animation) one before the last

So where you have the first key copy it leave it and place the copied just before the second and repeat

[onyx hemlock]

i will try thx

[lyric shore]

Or you can choose as example not a left tangent but right or maybe both. For your preferences :)

I'm glad I helped you

[lyric shore]

Did you check all the settings of set up of bones in your animator?

[fading badge]

im not using the humanoid rig - im using generic

[proven hornet]

Oh did not know about this

[cobalt flare]

Im Trying to import a model with shape keys and an animation into Unity but for some god forsaken reason, the Animation is 0.1 seconds long and i cant change the length annnnd the shape keys dont work 😔

:/

this is what its supposed to do

Nevermind

i was using blender 5.0

blender 4.5 fixed it

[polar cobalt]

Resolved

~~Hi,
I'm having trouble with transitions from AnyState to any clip. I've tried searching various forums and the Unity documentation, restarting Unity, creating other transitions , etc., but the error persists.

The problem is that from AnyState to any clip, I can't see the header for entering the conditions in the transitions .~~

[hard dagger]

How do I make consistently sized sprites for a sprite animated animation

[idle brook]

anyone know what this means or how to fix it, it started after i moved assets from old version's project to one of newer one

[tawdry lava]

By making sure the image size is the same for every frame of the animation

[tawdry lava]

Any chance youre in debug mode?

[tawdry lava]

Any unity devs know if this is 100% true? Im trying to do something real simple by transitioning from cached pose, instead of continuing to sample the source state

the solution is always playables....

I would LOVE an Animator.CrossFade method that uses the last frame of the transition source instead of continueing to update source

Animator.CrossFadeInFixedSeconds(state, time, layer, useCachedPose=false) override

i have never spent more time trying to fight mechanim

it ALWAYS falls short somewhere

at this point i either switch to playables (booooo), or record all transform bone data to an array and blend it manually in late update...

[gilded timber]

hey all! i'm just learning about animations in Unity and i'm noticing that i'm having to constantly make transitions either to idle or running. this is getting very unwieldy because basically every single state can always go to idle or running.

the issue though is that if i set it to Any State -> Idle and Any State -> Running the animations get kinda jank. running is supposed to completely override most of the animations. i think i can accomplish that by interruption source, but i had mixed results

is this the correct way to be doing this? i looked into sub-state machines but those still require me to make two connections. and blend kinda feels wrong here because we're not really blending anything. thoughts?

edit: actually... i think i figured it out. i keep Idle as a state because all other states naturally fall to it but i move Running into Any State

[twin musk]

im flabbergasted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLDK0eHwsho

[twin musk]

😭 is this with layers or just one big loop? I am learning c# to avoid this web of complexity

[gilded timber]

oh shit, i forgot about layers!!!

[gilded timber]

oh my god it's perfect, ty. i had no idea unity could do this

[polar cobalt]

I think by "debug mode" you mean "play mode." In that case, I often add or change things in animator while in play mode, and it's always worked fine. It's very useful to fix bugs.

I searched around on Google and found that "debug mode" can also refer to assets and other things, but in that case the answer is no.

Despite this, I want to thank you because you inadvertently solved my problem. While clicking all the buttons in animator to look for something containing "debug/debug mode," I found a button inside the transition arrow that said "Reset." Clicking it added the animation field back and gave me full control over everything.
So, I still don't know why I sometimes no longer have the conditions field and can't change any values ​​in the transition arrows, but now I know how to fix it.

[twin musk]

thats great

[plain forum]

Do you guys recommend just placing all the animation files inside the graph without connecting and just programming the animation transitions and all?

Or is there like a plugin, which is necessary for implementing animations the right way.

This is for a 3D character rig^

[agile solstice]

What makes you consider that instead of using the Animator itself?

[plain forum]

I saw few video on just using script to control the whole animation. I though maybe 'that way of doing it' is the standard.

Btw thankyou @agile solstice for the posterizing tips

I finally implemented this shader!

[agile solstice]

They are not really, there's like one video like that which went viral
By someone who didn't bother learning the Animator, telling people not to use the Animator

[plain forum]

So, I think need to give Animator a go?

I used to use a similar tool in Unreal, but it had those 1D, 2D animation blending. Which was easier to create 8 way directional movement. I wanna create that in Unity, but I'm not able to find a good starting point]

Like we had sync markers and all in Unreal to sync the walking, running etc. Without that I just can't imagine smooth transitions :(

[agile solstice]

You could start from the docs
Animator is full of useful features which you want to utilize so it helps you rather than hinders

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Alright

[agile solstice]

You can have blend trees sure
https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/Manual/class-BlendTree.html
The clips inside them are synced automatically

And you can have more than one clip along the same axis so a run velocity parameter can blend between many different types of movement animations like walk, jog and sprint for example

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I never thought 2D Blend trees existed. Nice

[agile solstice]

Also, read about all the features like animation layers, sub state machines and different types of special nodes like Entry and Exit
The most glaring beginner mistake is to use none of them and just try to make a parameter for every state, and try to make transitions from every state to every state
So the result is you'd be calling the animation states directly from code anyway with extra steps
That's why tutorials suggest creating your own state machine manually to avoid the hassle
But the Animator is already a state machine so it's rather redundant

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Got it

[agile solstice]

It doesn't fit every use case, but the features are powerful
Typically you want to use the minimum amount of parameters and transitions and automate as much of it as possible
Why code a custom state machine to handle animation sequences, when the Animator already automate sequences already

But because its main advantage is blending and using the same parameters for different animations depending on context, it might provide little benefit in a situation where you have a huge number of clips and don't need to care at all how or when you transition between them

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And one last question, should I go with animations for fpv camera movemts or just code them with translations and rotations?

[agile solstice]

It really depends
Do you think they'll benefit from Animator's features like layering, sequences, transition interruptions, all that

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I was thinking using blend tree to make the camera movement more violent as we walk, run

[tawdry lava]

If you want full control over your games animation, doing it via scripting using a tool like animancer, or using straight playables is the smarter thing to do. For example, in my game, the players can fight eachother, and they need to be able to read animations without problem. One issue that animator has is that blends always update the source animation when you have a transition going. In order to work around this, I had to split up my animation into multiple animations and uncheck "loop". I refused to learn playables because I've invested so much time into mechanim, but theres MANY limitations with mechanim that I absolutely hate

[agile solstice]

Layers would be useful for that
Possibly even moreso if you animate the camera together with first person items / arms
But if you have those they can be animated separately
And for camera movement that ultimately is very composed of just a couple of variables, it's not hard to produce it programmatically
Animation clips can have complex keyframe data, but they cannot be "persistent" or as reactive as programmatic
Like a rotational impulse from recoil can occur on top of another impulse without resetting the first one, in any direction too
But you might not need impulses of that sort

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I'll just stick to programmatic camera movements then and use keyframe based moevement for triggering one of animations.

[agile solstice]

Why is updating the source animation a problem in your case?
I know transition interruptions would blend from a snapshot, but only during an interruption
I assumed CrossFadeInFixedTime might also but not sure
State playback speed can be controlled externally, and state's playback time as well, but it might get hacky to do that a lot

[tawdry lava]

My animations are a single state, but can be interrupted in during the "windup" phase. Any time during windup, the player can morph into another attack, or cancel the correct one. The problem is I need to blend to the new state smoothly, and because the source continues to update, its blending from the follow through state to the new morphed state. This causes the animstion to jitter slightly which imo would make it much harder to read from the other players perspective

One solution is breaking the animation into 2 states, windup and followthrough. Because windup will have "loop time" unchecked, once it hits normalized time 1, it will effectively be paused

But its tiny things like this that make me angry about mechanim

In animancer/playables, I believe youre able to pause the source state during transitions

[agile solstice]

Well you do have that option with the Animator, just not included in the transition UI or methods

[tawdry lava]

How

I want to avoid creating transitions between every single state, and any state is completely broken with interrupts if you uncheck "orderred interruption"

[twin musk]

im just trying out animating pixel art with bone structures

is there any known way to manage the pixels and avoid the stretching?

[agile solstice]

These can be found in the settings of a state
If you check "parameter" then the speed or motion time will be directly controlled by a parameter
Additionally the AnimationState class has properties time, speed, normalizedSpeed and normalizedTime which probably work here as well if you get the source state at the moment you transition

[tawdry lava]

The problem is multiplier is already being used by the network subsystem. But is speed modifiable at runtime?

[agile solstice]

I'd assume with code it is

[tawdry lava]

I swear it was read-only, but ill check the docs

[agile solstice]

Not sure how that is relevant in this particular case, but showing how your transitions are set up now might help give some ideas

[tawdry lava]

I originated with any-state, but had issues with orderred interruption, so I switched to direct transitions. I then realized that making all those transitions was tedious, so I changed to Animator.CrossFadeInFixedTime, which is basically the same logic without me needing to build the transitions

I have a subsystem for attacks, animations are just a layer on top. I really should be using playables or animancer, but mechanim can be good... until it isnt

[agile solstice]

Well, the more you move away from actually using its features, in favor of doing the same things manually in code across the board, the more the system becomes dead weight

Any State is kind of a "skip" that interrupts the whole state machine, and calling states directly is even more so
You functionally move the FSM responsibility to code the more you use them
And the more you do, the less the Animator can do

[tawdry lava]

Right but I feel like im not crazy to want to blend from cached pose state

Like that's all thats missing

Everything else is there

[agile solstice]

Well, not quite everything but anyway it's not unreasonable either

[tawdry lava]

They already do it for interrupts, just expose a method for it 😅

[agile solstice]

Would be nice, blend curves too

[red geode]

can someone help me modify a gorilla tag map? i need help changing a few textures and moving/removing objects

[agile solstice]

It's fine to call particular animation states from code, like I would consider in this case assuming it's a functional solution to pause the source state directly from code

For the other states I'd still use the Animator features if it seems they benefit from it

[tawdry lava]

Thats exactly what im doing

[agile solstice]

Sub state machines and Entry/Exit states reduce the need to have transitions from every state to every state

[tawdry lava]

Unfortunately not true in my case

[agile solstice]

There can be transitions to a sub-state machine or out from it without specifying a destination state, which also then uses the Entry and Exit nodes

And layers and blend trees ofc

[tawdry lava]

Like I said, I beleive I can work around this by making the windup part of the animation its own state

The problem is there

I appreciate the help, and ill get back to show my results

Unity is making a new animation system im looking forward to, its clear mechanim cant compete with unreal engine feature wise

[agile solstice]

Something that might help at least a little is to shorten the swing's transition duration, and to apply some offset to skip its wind-up, if that'll be included in your swing

[tawdry lava]

The problem is the jolt that occurs during transitions

If i had access to motion time/speed multiplier this would be easy

But the networking part uses that

[agile solstice]

It could reduce the jolt a bit to skip to swing2 from wind-up1, instead of first to wind-up2 from wind-up1

[tawdry lava]

https://discussions.unity.com/t/animation-status-update-q1-2025-gdc-roadmap/1614718 if youre curious about the progress on the new animation tool. Looks a lot like unreals solution

[tawdry lava]

The problem is morphs need to be readable, ill show you what I mean

Basically can't add or remove animation time

[tawdry lava]

https://youtu.be/4ZrOqmDnKqk?si=l2gwcfyAEJRdvjSV

[agile solstice]

None of the methods seem to work?

[tawdry lava]

😅

[agile solstice]

I'd assume one of time, speed, normalizedSpeed or normalizedTime would have to
But I don't know the network components in this case

[tawdry lava]

Speedmultipler is taken by network, and motiontime is being read from, but not necessarily applies to the attack states

If the state has motion time field, it needs to be updated externally I believe

Which might work to be honest

[agile solstice]

Not speaking of the fields in this case, but properties
Only two fields but 4 properties that could be changed

[agile solstice]

Not really possible
When you do skinned sprite deformation you deform a mesh, so its texture will inevitably deform if it follows the vertices at all
An alternative would be to do the pixelation after deformation, such as with Pixel Perfect Camera's upscale render texture feature
But it usually won't look very good, especially if you're deforming pixel art and then pixelating it again later, because the source renderer's pixels won't match the render texture's pixels

The highest quality method could be to start with non-pixel art, deform that and then pixelate with pixel perfect upscaling
Optionally before or after pixelation outline rendering techniques could be used to render continuous non-flickery pixel lines

[tawdry lava]

anything where you access the state/clip via animator.GetCurrentAnimatorClipInfo(0) or animator.GetCurrentAnimatorStateInfo(0) is readonly. I believe its intended for you to only use the fields exposed to you via parameters

[agile solstice]

So what of this? If only the speed multiplier is taken by networking

[tawdry lava]

So id need to step the motiontime parameter myself via code

the problem is both the current and next state would need seperate motiontime parameters and i need to keep track of which is which

[agile solstice]

Afraid it'd come to that!
Could have a separate parameter for each attack if you don't have a lot of them
Or just two parameters but two states for every attack that are hooked to different parameters to alternate between when they interrupt each other

[tawdry lava]

debating whether i care about the visual jitter at this point lmao

sounds hacky af

but this is the next choice

gonna try it

actually no, because itd negate the speed multiplier logic. Gonna try switching to a dedicated windup state first, because it would solve 2 problems im having

Promising results so far

because the windup state ends, it no longer leaks into the release state, so no jitter

[agile solstice]

Clearly yea the whole animation time/speed would be controlled directly by code in that case, which may or may not be a bad thing
Which network solution are you using in this case?

[tawdry lava]

Netick, but im not using tick-aligned animation

using a simple extrapolation system for animation

im hesitent to go full playables cause ima need to build a custom blend tree solution

Animancer is a good choice but they want like 80 bucks, and Lite was pretty darn Mid last i tried it

[tawdry lava]

now that im using it, not sure this is a solution either

Before and after

[agile solstice]

By "it" you mean which method?

[tawdry lava]

seperate windup phase so the original animation doesnt bleed into the new one

before looks objectively better for my animations imo

[agile solstice]

It looks like you're not blending to motion but to a pose before the swing actually starts, is that intended?

[tawdry lava]

yes

[agile solstice]

That's going to look very stiff even in ideal circumstances

[tawdry lava]

I believe games like mordhau probably blend different body parts at different speeds

[tawdry lava]

If you look at this video, their implementation is very smooth

probably because the body is blended at a different rate than arms

[agile solstice]

Looks more like they have unique clips for moving between the wind-up poses
Which would achieve those "different rates" without having to do anything complex

[tawdry lava]

i mean that is very possible haha

regardless of what i do, i believe i do have to seperate windup from release

Ill teak the morph to not be a still pose and see how that looks

[tawdry lava]

if i use the original animation, this is what it looks like

it jolts back forward because obviously the animation gets evaluated towards the entry state

but i think youre right about it being a dedicated animation

[agile solstice]

Mordhau's wind-ups are so short and so is the morph that I can't even tell if it actually allows interrupting the wind-up or not

It seems in the video the pose change always happens at the apex of the wind-up, not before or after

[tawdry lava]

this is a player decision, as morph can occur during any stage in the windup window afaik

in my game however, i will be restricting morph during a certain phase of windup

so an animation will probably look best

[agile solstice]

Actual interruptions appear to happen later, only when blocking or taking damage, and they are quite jarring jolts from the animation perspective

[tawdry lava]

so youre saying the morph appears to occur once it hits a certain point in the animation

thats actually interesting

[agile solstice]

I would believe that the wind-ups and swings are separate, and morphs only allowed when the wind-up is finished or nearly finished
And it doesn't look like morphs could be interrupted either

I assume it's limited to that for gameplay reasons too

Otherwise you'd be completely unable to predict the enemy attack

[tawdry lava]

unfortunately they can haha, debate of the community

morphs can happen at any state of the windup animation, and CAN be interrupted by a feint

which puts you back to idle state, which can ALSO be interrupted by starting another attack

[agile solstice]

Hm, would require a video showing off that to try and guess how it exactly works
But they probably have a lot of animations for specific cases anyhow

[tawdry lava]

all these moves cost stamina and once you have 0 stamina you lose your weapon when trying to block

it would make sense, and i do think youre on the right track

youve given me ideas

thank you btw, it was an insightful discussion 😅

[tawdry lava]

yeah dedicated animation was a nice middleground

you were totally right

[twin musk]

its been a week and none of my approaches net useful results

🤨

i tried a new project with the very last package settings

and it kinda worked?

ill try rigging it

[twin musk]

yep i got it

but the head isnt rotating, which i assume is because it is parent to two different bones

apparently it just wont rotate

a new gameobject from its prefab has its head rotating

welp thats exactly what I wanted, this is bonkers

may have to forego ik limbs as 2 bone trees dont mix properly

[twin musk]

now the animator wont accept bone movement

restarted the project and the animator is accepting multiple bone movements in different frames

wowaaaaa

it actually worked

[nimble vine]

anyone good with animations? im having a little issue and i cant seem to find what im doing wrong

[celest crag]

!ask

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[nimble vine]

im very new to unity and everything in it so i try to follow tutorials as best as i can but i've ran into few hiccups. the ending of my second swing animation gets frozen at its ending frame for maybe 1 or 2 seconds and then returns to idle and idk how to correct this. ive tried looking but couldnt seem to find anything

ive also used boolens as my parameters

[agile solstice]

The transition is longer than the clip itself so that can make a delay appear
What we're actually seeing is how it'd look when the transition starts on a delay after the end of the source clip, which we don't see on the transition timeline so I'd guess we might be looking at a different transition, or a clip that has the delay in it

You can and should have the game or scene window visible at the same time as the Animator window side by side, and the animated gameobject selected

That way you and we can see exactly which state and transition the animator is playing

And since you're recording a video it helps to click through every transition quickly once with their Settings visible, so we can pause and check each if needed

[nimble vine]

the animator doesnt even show the transitions

[nimble vine]

thanks in advance

[agile solstice]

Good! Although in play mode the gameobject isn't selected, so Animator window is not showing live updates of the states

[nimble vine]

i can make a quick vid