🥽┃virtual-reality

[brazen tundra]

Thanks @leaden flame

Gonna see what I can do

[solar lagoon]

Never mind I find a way to get the input

Vector3 v3move = new Vector3(-movement.y, 0, movement.x);
            transform.Translate(v3move * 10 * Time.deltaTime);

movement is the vector2 that I get from InputSystem

        inputActions = new InputActions();
        inputActions.RightHand.Primary2DAxis.performed += ctx => MoveBroom(ctx.ReadValue<Vector2>());

@brazen tundra

[brazen tundra]

Thanks @solar lagoon !

[solar lagoon]

not sure it's the same context. I am using OpenXR.

as SteamVR is not supported on Unity 2020.+

[brazen tundra]

Yeah... It really sux

[brazen tundra]

@solar lagoon How were you able to get the Y axis?

I can only get the X one

[solar lagoon]

What do you mean? The 2D axis is a vector 2

So x and y

[brazen tundra]

Mine is only getting the X

[solar lagoon]

What’s your code?

[brazen tundra]

Something weird too

There isn't an option for Y axis

I can't find the option I want

[solar lagoon]

Oh okay. Look différent then mine

I dunno

[scarlet tree]

pull it in as a joystick

[brazen tundra]

I got it boys...

RotateAnchor is for X Axis

TranslateAnchor is for Y Axis

So you would have to do this

[brazen tundra]

How can I add more button options?

Such as the top menu button for HTC VIve, or the A and B button for Oculus/Index?

[buoyant jolt]

I use the VRTK, can’t help on that

[weak laurel]

So interesting problem, I've got an unity xr project that works but head/camera tracking stops as soon as the proximity sensor on the headset is activated (I put on the headset). Not sure where to look since I have a brand new project with the xr plugin and default xr rig. Using this with the windows mr option checked (and a lenovo explorer if it matters). Any suggestions?

[quaint moss]

@lone knoll nice, is that a custom framework?

[lone knoll]

yes , based on open-xr

[solar lagoon]

Don’t get what you mean

[brazen tundra]

How is the helmet tracking if the sensor is deactivated?

[scarlet tree]

A and B button are Primary/SecondaryButton on the Right controller

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.xr.openxr@0.1/manual/features/oculustouchcontrollerprofile.html

top button would be the Menu button on the vive controller I believe?

[brazen tundra]

Thanks @scarlet tree again

I think I found it

[scarlet tree]

tbh I friggin hate the vive controllers lol

[brazen tundra]

Hahaha

I hate XR more

I think this is what I was looking for

It's just crazy that I can't find proper tutorials about this

[velvet hemlock]

Hey is anyone here a VR programmer and VR developer? I have an idea for a game that i cant fully do by myself so if anyone would like to help me make a game that would be awesome!, if youre interested DM me and we can go over what everything will be about and all the details.

And im willing to work with many of people on this project, so if youre good at vr development or vr programming, then DM me!

[north path]

What does this do btw?
It confuses me

[quick skiff]

Hi all, our VR fps camera is jittering when standing still, the glitch goes away when moving around the space but then always returns here's a short video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZdxDqlqhzafyIZ95QVYw2vKls2W0SC1/view?usp=sharing Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
Unity 2019.4.23, XR Interaction Toolkit 1.0.0-pre.3.
Also tried downgrading XR Interaction Toolkit and had slightly less glitching at 0.9.0 but still there

[north path]

Dont mention @ everyone...

[quick skiff]

oh, I'm really sorry about that

ok i just removed it

[brazen tundra]

How do I add the primary or secondary button if in the script there are only 3 buttons?

[tiny compass]

I'm going to start a project (a turn-based multiplayer game) using 2020 LTS, OpenXR and URP. Main target is the Quest but I want to leave it open for adding other platforms. Any suggestion on the Unity template to use? Is the VR template actually helpful, or does it put in enough gunk that I'd be better off just using the 3D one and adding what I want?

[quick skiff]

Maybe start with this kind of thing https://learn.unity.com/project/vr-beginner-the-escape-room

you might be way beyond this

but it seems the XR/VR stuff is tricky and varies widely based on delivery platform

[tiny compass]

oh, and if it helps, I've been programming for a couple decades, and have been doing unity/vr stuff for about a year now. I've got it pretty well down, though I have been using native Oculus SDK and not OpenXR, and we haven't converted to URP yet

[quick skiff]

steam vr, xr interaction toolkit, so many choices

[tiny compass]

I've been doing a lot of stuff like locomotion and grab/throwing, but, again, not using OpenXR

[quick skiff]

for cross platform. but if you're going for one specific platform that will probably be more straightforward

[tiny compass]

apparently, both Oculus and Steam are telling people to build in OpenXR now

[quick skiff]

oh yeah? interesting

why is that

[tiny compass]

not sure of their motivations, exactly. it's possible they realize they need to grow the VR market and standardization is a good idea. Oculus has even said certain features might only come to OpenXR and not their native sdk!

[quick skiff]

doesn't compute: it only delivers to hololens and wmr the page says, not oculus

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.xr.openxr@0.1/manual/index.html

that would be fantastic, a single compatibility layer for most HMDs, not the confusing pastiche out there now

[tiny compass]

nah, OpenXR is supported for the Quest in Unity: https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/unity-openxr/

they(the openxr page) say "At this time, deploying directly to Oculus Quest/Quest 2 is not supported." Maybe it's just because they need the middleware of Oculus' XR middleware

of course, unity's docs are always out of date. Even that link I sent only talks about 2019.

but my main question was about the templates. just how much useful/annoying junk they include in the templates

[quick skiff]

Oh cool, thank you

[quick skiff]

I don't know, sorry

[tiny compass]

no worries. I guess I'll find out! 😄

[brazen tundra]

Anyone has a tutorial on how to write custom XR action based setups?

I just want to add primary and secondary buttons

[buoyant jolt]

I recommend the VRTK. Platform SDKs change constantly, even OpenXR changes every other week.

It supports OpenXR anyway and has a lot more working tools and samples. It also works with fringe headsets like Pico, etc.

[tiny compass]

hah, I just came back to ask about VRTK thoughts. It seems like it's a bit of a beast

have you used it with the Quest?

(though in theory, it doesn't matter what device you use it with its supposed to be all the same)

[buoyant jolt]

Yup

We work on 8 to 10 projects a month with VRTK 3 & 4

We’ve used both for the Quest

But I do agree it is a lot to learn. The frameworks are overly thick

[tiny compass]

I've read a lot of comments that the docs are crap (though that applies to just about everything, unfortunately). Would you say that's the case? How about the learning curve? I've been doing Oculus VR sdk stuff for the last year+, so I'm wondering if I'm inviting a lot of yak-shaving switching to VRTK

[buoyant jolt]

VRTK 4 does not have reliable documentation

My advice is either OpenXR or VRTK

With VRTK it also works on OpenXR

[coarse notch]

Can someone please help me figure out how to set up the hand using Hurricane VR? Using custom poses makes it look like this

[tiny compass]

I was looking into OpenXR. It sounds like it still can't produce native apk builds? Did I read that right?

[buoyant jolt]

I’m not sure, I use VRTK > Oculus Plug-in (for the Quest). It abstracts away all the third party frameworks, so you don’t have to worry about that part of the stuff.

[tiny compass]

okay, thanks for your thoughts. My coworker is also contemplating VRTK, after pulling his hair out over Oculus' teleport sample and its numerous frustrating limitations

but this is a fairly large, established project, so adding VRTK at this point didn't appeal

[buoyant jolt]

Yeah, VRTK is fantastic... once you’ve mastered it :). Until then it’s hair pulling

When I last used the raw Oculus Plugin, I had to modify the teleport examples as they weren’t complete, and some functions were literally empty and stubbed out

I wrote a blog post somewhere about how bad their sample code was. They had entire features commented out that just says the devs disabled it because they couldn’t figure out the bug. The bug was a 1 line fix. It’s a bit sad. Hopefully it’s been long fixed since then.

[tiny compass]

any thoughts on XR Interaction Toolkit?

[buoyant jolt]

I haven’t used that one much I’m afraid

We have ~20 people on VR full time for a variety of headsets, and we pretty much only work with the VRTK now.

We are getting slow to adapt 😦

[tiny compass]

hah. well, developers aren't lacking for introducing a staggering array of different toolkits. that's the one thing developers are the best at doing. 😆

we're doing all our stuff on Quest right now (we have a pico - actually two I think, because the first one was shoddy). we're a pretty small startup so we're mainly trying to focus

[buoyant jolt]

Yeah, we use Pico for our health stuff (all plastic, no cloth). Quest for teaching (post secondaries) and consumer titles. Vive/rift for PC gamers. Vive for industrial clients (some of them need trackers). Quest with hands only for our in hospital stroke work (controller free). It changes a lot per client...

[tiny compass]

I can definitely see how something very geared towards cross platform would be a must

[brazen tundra]

Anyone please

Just a simple request

How to make primary and secondary buttons work for XR

[brazen tundra]

I give up

I will just go back to Unity 2019.3 and continue using SteamVR

[wanton fossil]

If I recall correctly, you're just trying to open a UI, right? So, you don't technically need it to go through the controller. You can just hook up the action directly to whatever gameObject you want to toggle.

You can either look into some more generic Input System tutorials, or if your somewhat familiar with the system. Do something like this.
https://github.com/C-Through/XR-OpenXR/blob/main/Assets/_OpenXR/Scripts/AssetInputExample.cs

Then, it would look something like.

   private void DoPressedThing(InputAction.CallbackContext context)
    {
      bool isActive = !canvasObject.activeSelf;
      canvasObject.SetActive(isActive);
    }

[teal perch]

hey everyone, I learning unity and how to build vr games, I've started project to build bowling game and I'm looking materials to learn about physics in unity to properly implement throwing, spinning and object interactions. Maybe someone knows good materials to learn from on that subject?

[solar lagoon]

That’s an error im my opinion 😉 steamvr is going to be discontinued ,OpenXr is the technology

[slow marlin]

Hey guys I'm new to making virtual reality games, is the OVRPlayerController still working?

Also I'm on the quest

[quick steeple]

Hey guys anyone here does unity dev VR tutoring/mentorship/courses? I’m very new to the whole unity universe but i’d like to jumpstart into learning VR and 3D asset creation. Not totally new to 3D btw

[brazen tundra]

There isn't even a tutorial to add the primary or secondary button

I will keep Unity2019 until something that actually works comes up

[teal perch]

hey @quick steeple today I found this course on learn.unity https://learn.unity.com/course/oculus-vr?uv=2018.4 maybe will be useful for you as well

[buoyant jolt]

I think there are a few VR things in the latest training humble bundle pack

That said, I'm also teaching a VR cert. at SAIT. But it might be better to take a small course first and see if you like it

[quick steeple]

Nice Thank you @teal perch That's definitely useful!

@buoyant jolt didn't find anything related. I saw only a game dev design & graphics bundle. Also, that's good news, I'll take a look on your course!

[buoyant jolt]

So yes I'd probably start with this:
https://www.humblebundle.com/software/intro-to-code-2021-software

And the top tier has a Make Micro VR game course.

You can also check out udemy they have fantastic stuff and coupon codes come out every few months to knock all courses to $5

[quick steeple]

Oh that one! Cool! This is definitely something i could use! thank you very much!

[solar lagoon]

Hey Guys, I am trying to make a flying broom experience in VR.

How would you setup the controller for this?

we would need to move forward turn and change altitude

I have a Valve Index Controller.

[buoyant jolt]

I’d tread cautiously, forced motion is not pleasant

Its what causes motion sickness ...

[solar lagoon]

the head movement will be free.

just the broom direction will change.

[heady grotto]

What he's referring to is that you will still move the player's camera through the world as it "flies"... Which for many people is a vom machine

[scarlet tree]

@brazen tundra I told you already, it's literally PrimaryButton and SecondaryButton

[brazen tundra]

I know, and I tried setting it with your tips, but unfortunately it didn't work

But it's ok now, I'm already back to 2019.3

Thanks for trying hehe

[scarlet tree]

https://gyazo.com/956ada24274e9c18ce4f9bd16f991f5e

WHAT DIDN'T WORK?

....

okay capslock lol

sorry lol

[brazen tundra]

Hahahahahahahaa

[sinful delta]

@brazen tundra use xr interaction toolkit man. Its super simple.

[brazen tundra]

I did exactly that

I had issues setting up the code

Even wrote a custom script

The trigger and grip button were the only things working

But now it's ok though

I was happy with SteamVR 😁

[scarlet tree]

I'm reasonably sure the issue could be worked out simply and in a few minutes without requiring you to completely rip apart your project a second time, but you do you, I guess

[brazen tundra]

I was having issues with XR for 1 whole week, I just got tired of it

it caused me so many issues

[sinful delta]

idk how bro. Its like easiest thing they ever released lol

[brazen tundra]

Could you point me a tutorial that explain how to set up the primary and secondary buttons? I wanna save it if I decide to try again in the future

I spent hours looking for one, but couldn't find it

[sinful delta]

i think valem has some but i mean its literally drag and drop

what headset you on?

[vestal flicker]

OpenXR examples already includes a full input action map with most of the buttons

[brazen tundra]

I watched it, and he did explain how to set up the trigger and grip button, but for other buttons it didn't work

[brazen tundra]

Not really, there weren't the primary and secondary buttons

[brazen tundra]

HTC Vive

[sinful delta]

did you look at the xr interaction toolkit docs?

It has a list of what everything is called

as far as buttons

[vestal flicker]

Hmm, I use them because they're there but, ok 😛

[brazen tundra]

I did, but how to set them

There is no where that explains step by step

[vestal flicker]

OpenXR sample, - already has most buttons

[brazen tundra]

I know that

I played with that window for hours and hours

How do would you set the code for the primary and secondary button

I'm talking about the code

[sinful delta]

did you import the xr toolkit sample inputs? it has it also

[brazen tundra]

I did

Here per example, that's a script that I couldn't modify

There were only 3 buttons

And I only managed to make 2 of them work

Then I tried to write my own script, also did not work

[sinful delta]

what you want it t be?

it looks like the primary button is mapped to teleport select

[brazen tundra]

Once again

[brazen tundra]

I understand that window

What about the code though?

[sinful delta]

what dont you uderstand

[brazen tundra]

What would you write if you had to use the teleport function, per example

I could only use activateAction, selectAction and uiAction

[sinful delta]

just add a new binding

[brazen tundra]

Once again

[sinful delta]

uncheck use reference and add the bvinding you want

[brazen tundra]

I understand that window

I don't need help with that window

I'm talking about the code

[sinful delta]

i dont think you do man

you dont need to change any code

[brazen tundra]

Let's say I need to use the teleport button

[sinful delta]

if you want to pick something up, what button you want to use?

[brazen tundra]

How would you write the code?

[sinful delta]

you trying to teleport or interact?

[wanton fossil]

Are you using the Vive controllers as well? Are you trying to use the touchpad?

Also, I commented on your issue earlier. You don't need to go through the controller.

If you're trying to use the touchpad press, you'd need Primary Axis press, or Touchpad press if you're on OpenXR.

[brazen tundra]

Neither

[buoyant jolt]

This is exactly why I love using the VRTK

[brazen tundra]

I'm trying to check when buttons are being pressed

That's it

[sinful delta]

i hate vrtk lol i implemented the same things it does in one day with the xrit

to do something?

[buoyant jolt]

You just need to apply yourself better 😄

It should have taken 5 seconds

Drag/drop/tweak/go

[sinful delta]

true, i shamed myself for a week for being inferior

[brazen tundra]

This example

I can only use selectAction, activateAction and uiAction

And I couldn't make uiAction work

But let's say I want to add the Menu button (The top button for HTC)

How would I do that if I only have 3 options?

[wanton fossil]

Input example

[wanton fossil]

Implementation example

[brazen tundra]

Would I be able to choose any button from this list

Using this?

public InputActionReference testReference = null;

[wanton fossil]

Yes, you can drop the input asset in, or define it in the Inspector.

[brazen tundra]

But, why VR Andrew or Valem showed that?

[wanton fossil]

I am Andrew.

[brazen tundra]

VR with Andrew?

[wanton fossil]

Yes.

[brazen tundra]

I watched your video, and there wasn't this example with the code 😅

Love your videos by the way hahaha

[wanton fossil]

Ahaha, it's from the OpenXR video. Checkout the template, it'll have all that setup. But, you have me an idea for a future video. :)

[brazen tundra]

Awesome

Thanks Andrew

This is funny

[wanton fossil]

We'll, hope you get it figured out! Vive controllers are just a bit iffy. So, try grip or trigger to make sure it works.

[sinful delta]

@brazen tundra you can use this to get your head wrapped around it also. https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/XR-Interaction-Toolkit-Examples

[brazen tundra]

Thanks! I'm team VR Andrew now all the way

Valem is trash, he sux...

Joking

You both are awesome

I learn a bunch with you both of your videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJld6gyifpA

A lot of what you see here I learnt from you guys

[brazen tundra]

Thank you Big!

[wanton fossil]

We do what we can. 🙂

[scarlet tree]

Welp. I just hopefully implemented Steam achievments for the OpenXR port

now I need to test if they even work

[solar lagoon]

What is welp.

Hey Guys still on my question about the flying broom :p

What would be the best mapping.

Using the primary2D axis like in a plane for up and down. Or something else

[north path]

Why not get the direction from around crouch level to a controller and move towards that?

[solar lagoon]

Hey, not sure what you mean by around crouch level

[north path]

crotch level, sorry

[solar lagoon]

Lol. That ‘s worst . Dunno this word

Never mind I checked 😉 but since I am parenting the rig to the broom I would like to get the direction from it. Not sure how to rotate based a left right joystick.

I tried Transform.lookAt

[solar lagoon]

Someone else to help maybe?

[brazen tundra]

I don't quite understand what you are trying to do

Could you send as some images?

[solar lagoon]

yup.

[brazen tundra]

Draw in paint or something

[brazen tundra]

From what I understand, if you rotate the broom, the camera rig will rorate as well

[solar lagoon]

this is my broom, I want to orientate the broom based on the Primary2D axis.

I am getting the direction in 3D space like this.

[brazen tundra]

And what does Primary2D axis mean?

[solar lagoon]

   Vector3 v3move = new Vector3(-movement.y, 0, movement.x);
            Debug.DrawRay(transform.position, v3move,Color.magenta);
            if(v3move.)

[brazen tundra]

Is it the X value from the touchpad/joystick?

[solar lagoon]

its a vector2 value based on the thumbstick of the valve index controller.

[brazen tundra]

I see

[solar lagoon]

so I am converting in a 3D vector3

and the DrawRay is good and is showing the proper direction.

how to apply this v3move to the broom to match the rotation.

[brazen tundra]

transform.RotateAround(broom.position, Vector3.up, rotateSpeedValue * Time.deltaTime);

Something like this maybe?

[solar lagoon]

let me try.

[brazen tundra]

Oh wait

[solar lagoon]

?

[brazen tundra]

Hold up

Let me do this right

Gonna take a second

[solar lagoon]

https://youtu.be/zzWC_NQtaqQ

this is what I get from my controller right now.

[brazen tundra]

Video is private

[solar lagoon]

try again the link.

[brazen tundra]

I believe if you try my code,it will work

And it's just broom.position instead of broomSpeed

[solar lagoon]

its working thanks.

I thought about a different ways.

not to rotation but more use this magenda ray as the direction.

if you understand

like in a plane.

but that is a good start thanks.

[brazen tundra]

Hope it work 😁

[solar lagoon]

but more as a general question. how to rotate from a source to the direction of a vector

like this drawed ray is the direction I want to apply to the broom

I am good.

I used yours it's working fine.

just need to check how to gain altitude..

[brazen tundra]

Something like this maybe?

[silk lava]

Does someone know how I can create a XRGrabinteractable that's stuck in one place?
I tried to just make the rigidbody kinematic but I can still grab the Interactable and it glitches (creates weird shapes, like all polygons are pulled towards their original places).
I want to make grabables that lift up the player(character controller) instead to realise a climbing mechanic, but I've no idea how to implement it (or if there's an easier way)

[wary junco]

on the XR Grab Interactable did you "Freeze Rotation & Position"?

[silk lava]

no

[wary junco]

One way that I could think to do it would be to parent the rig to the controller, and parent the controller to the item. Not sure how expensive that would be

[silk lava]

My Rig already is parent of the controllers and camera

[silk lava]

How can I freeze it?

deactivate track position and rotation I assume?

[wary junco]

yes. Although in my mind it is different, one sec

[modest pier]

how do you reference the gameobject a user is holding in script

[silk lava]

public class ClimbInteractable : XRGrabInteractable
{
    protected override void OnSelectEntered(SelectEnterEventArgs args)
    {
        base.OnSelectEntered(args);
        Debug.Log("Knob grabbed");
        if(args.interactor is XRDirectInteractor)
        {
            Climber.climbingHand = args.interactor.GetComponent<XRController>();
            Debug.Log("Interactor found");
        }
            
    }

    protected override void OnSelectExited(SelectExitEventArgs args)
    {
        base.OnSelectExited(args);
        Debug.Log("Knob lost");
        if (args.interactor is XRDirectInteractor)
        {
            if(Climber.climbingHand)
            {
                Climber.climbingHand = null;
            }
        }
    }
}

[modest pier]

thank you

[silk lava]

My Hand is just grabbing it

[silk lava]

Got a climber script on the player that gets the current hand from the interactable and tracks the velocity of the hand

void climb()
    {

        InputDevices.GetDeviceAtXRNode(climbingHand.controllerNode).TryGetFeatureValue(UnityEngine.XR.CommonUsages.deviceVelocity, out Vector3 velocity);
        character.Move(transform.rotation * -velocity * Time.fixedDeltaTime);
    }

[wary junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIrgCMNsE3s&t=254s

btw LevelUp did a video on something semi similar just yesterday. But he did explain the locks.

[silk lava]

Sounds interesting, guess this will help implement my lockpicking feature :3

Did you recall how I can freeze its position and rotation?

[modest pier]

aight thanks

[wary junco]

tbh, I was going to recommend coding something completely outside of XRGrab Interactable. but you would def want to turn off all of the booleans in that editor. The grab actually puts the object to the controller, you want the opposite

[silk lava]

You have to make the climbinghand static for this to work

[modest pier]

yeah

[silk lava]

Hmm, will try the deactivate those two tomorrow, maybe this helps.
Bit late here in germany, need to go to sleep but wanted to have a (possible) solution, otherwise I couldn't sleep well xD

Thanks for the video and the hint, hope this is useful 😄

[wary junco]

np, was writing a quick script of what I meant. Ill tag you in it here in a sec.

[silk lava]

Ah thanks

[wary junco]

btw - did you watch valems? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHHYI7hzZ6M

[silk lava]

Yeah, tried it like this as well, as most of my code looks like his

Guess in an old XRToolkit this works well

But Unity is constantly throwing rocks in my way, so this is nothing new to me 😄

Had to rewrite my stuff 3x since the beginning because of huge Framework changes

[wary junco]

Ive been watching DOTs tutorials today. Thinking about converting everything over (the mathmatics at least) to help VR cope. BUT every 3 months when I mess with it, the code changes a good bit. Thats why Im just going to stick with 2019 for a little bit longer, and switch once more stuff is out of beta

preview*

[silk lava]

I just have to implement two more things into my prototype to test all gameplay features for now, hope Unity doesn't kick me in the balls with the final 1.0 release xD

Anyway, have to go, girlfriend is waiting 😄

[wary junco]

ok, cheers m8. xD

[wary junco]

@silk lava https://codeshare.io/2BEXD9

way too long to post here actually. Only 150 lines though :-s

Some of those positions should be local when they go back to XR.Rig.

Its also untested as we are about to do dinner. Ill have to modify it once I work out the kinks. Not entirely sure that the Rig has to be parented to controller. but you can move the rig around the object when grabbed since technically pulling is just that. The other way is creating a game object called "World" and putting everything inside of that and have the XR Rig with no parent, then you could parent the world to Controller, and it will look the same. (this is the method I use since "normal" locomotion is not used in my project). It allows you to do scaling as well to get a "TiltBrush" feel

Im sure their implementation is better. I also saw Andrew did a tut on it. I need to look at that one.

Edit: The code above is broken lol, I am missing something, but dont detach the controllers from Rig otherwise it perma offsets controllers. The other method I use that puts everything in a "world" game object works, but you have to control the restrictions on axis' so Andrews/Valems/Levelups work better

[marble wolf]

I'm teleporting a person to a new location in my scene. What's a good simple way to fade the camera out/in? I'm using Oculus Integrations, VRTK for the Quest. Using only baked lighting as well.

Looks like I'll be trying OVRScreenFade

[warm whale]

It's kind of a bad solution but I'm lerping the alpha of a sphere around the player's head

For the fade effect

.
Does the xr toolkit have collision for continuous movement?

[wary junco]

dont think so. was watching valems "Continuous Movement" video, he made his own for a solution. Figured I would check his out, since everyone seems to mention them. Im surprised that there arent more videos on DIY systems that dont use XR, but tap into the open XR stuff.

[wary junco]

https://wirewhiz.com/vr-climbing-tutorial-unity-steamvr/ this is an interesting solution if you want to do some minimal conversions from steamvr to xr.

[wanton fossil]

Yes, it's setup at the end of this video using the Character Controller Driver Component.
https://youtu.be/4WiMogkep1U

There are also ways of creating your own locomotion providers, if you want a custom solution.
https://youtu.be/6N__0jeg6k0

[wanton fossil]

Probably a bit late on this one, but you can inherit from the XRBaseInteractable rather than the GrabInteractable if you don't want the object to follow the controller.

[warm whale]

Thanks guys I'll take a look

[scarlet tree]

Hey all, does anyone have experience with optimisation and profiler analysis? I know just enough about the profiler to figure out that something's causing the frame to get Overshot, but I can't figure out what it actually is.

[buoyant jolt]

Profilers great for code issues. For models and such though it's renderdoc or looking at batch calls etc.

If it's code related though, profiler will show you the function causing a slow down

[scarlet tree]

I'm aware. Essentially, what's happenning is that we've got a CPU time of about 6ms, and a GPU of about 9ms.. but then there's a big fat 40ms Semaphore.waitforsignal in the middle

which is causing the GPU stuff to overshoot the frame, and voila, consistent horrible frame times

Can I throw you a saved profiler capture? maybe you can make more sense of it than I

[silk lava]

Also a good idea to try, thanks a lot!

[scarlet tree]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_W2qvBV0DKnJhAwRr2l3E5Yz667aj4ur/view?usp=sharing

There's the profiler capture, if anyone wants to take a look

[echo marsh]

Hi, i want to make a jump button using XR toolkit similar to the one in rec room but i don't know how to capture the button being pressed, been on google and there is nothing that breaks it down so i can understand, can someone help?

[solar lagoon]

You need a script that will register event on button press and that will trigger a method which will add force upward to player rigidbody

[echo marsh]

Yeah i know that, but i don't know how to make a script that will register an event on a button press.

[solar lagoon]

You start by adding the assembly at the top

Lol sorry dont know how to make back tick with my phone

Using Unity.InputSystem;

[echo marsh]

Ok, these are all my assemblies i have now:

using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using UnityEngine.XR;
using UnityEngine.XR.Interaction.Toolkit;
using Unity.InputSystem;

[solar lagoon]

Yup you are good

[echo marsh]

What now?

[solar lagoon]

https://learn.unity.com/tutorial/taking-advantage-of-the-input-system-scripting-api

You need to register to the inputaction in awake function

You can use the tutorial more or less

[echo marsh]

I don't understand, what is inputaction? and isn't this tutorial for just normal controller or keyboard input?

[echo marsh]

I see nothing that references XR

[solar lagoon]

Nope but the logic is the same. Sorry i have to leave

[echo marsh]

Ok :/

[scarlet tree]

.......What a fool

[echo marsh]

what?

[scarlet tree]

the spammer

[echo marsh]

oh is it a scam?

[scarlet tree]

<@&502884371011731486> yo points up

[solar lagoon]

Lol

[scarlet tree]

TY 🙂

I mean, it was so bad the link didn't even parse as valid

anyway

[solar lagoon]

😉 hackerman

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-hackerman-kung-fury-gif-7953536

[scarlet tree]

@echo marsh
1: Make sure your XR rig is an Action based one
2: Go to the Package Manager, find the XR interaction Toolkit entry, click "Samples" and Import the "Default Input Actions" sample.
3: Put an "Input Action manager" component on your XR Rig
4: Point the Input action Manager at your Default Input Actions asset
5: https://youtu.be/d2gEEQeu1b4?t=194 to set up your Default interaction actions
6: Open the Default input Actions asset
7: Select the controller you want the jump button on in "Action maps"
8: In "Actions", Right Click>Create, Call the new action "Jump"
9: Right click the new action>Add Binding
10: In "Properties", under "Binding", click the "Path" dropdown, and navigate tot he button you want to assign. I recommend you make it something like "primaryButtonPressed"(A/X)
11: https://hatebin.com/kqmgeoqjkt

it's a bit of a slog, but you need to only do most of it once 🙂

[echo marsh]

i remember seeing action based stuff on xr 0.10, im on 0.9.4 would it still be on there

[scarlet tree]

yes

I'm on 1.0.0-pre-1 (I probably should go to pre-3 but I'm gonna just wait for 1.0 official)

[echo marsh]

i see no action based xr rig though

[brazen tundra]

It could be that the toolkit is missing

Then it should appear

[echo marsh]

this is what i got, i think its because im on 0.9.4

[brazen tundra]

Oh

Could be that

[echo marsh]

I will try updating once i have backed up all my code and files

[brazen tundra]

How can I access the Menu button for the HTC VIVE 1?

I already tried all these buttons, but none get the Menu button

I need to get the input for that button

[wanton fossil]

Just checked this, looks like an issue with OpenXR? Doesn't get a reading in the Input Debugger. It should just be the "menu [HTC Vive...]".

[brazen tundra]

Thanks again Andrew

And yeah, it doesn't seem to be reading that button

Any tips on what I should do?

[wanton fossil]

Not sure, really

[brazen tundra]

Thanks

[solar lagoon]

If there is no reference of it, you cannot grab the value

[brazen tundra]

Should I report this bug to Unity?

[solar lagoon]

So when you put in listen mode and push it, there is no answer?

[brazen tundra]

Yeah

All the other buttons work

Except the Menu one

[solar lagoon]

Weird because its a common button on Valve index controller

But you used the vive controller input package?

[wanton fossil]

Yeah, I'd ask about it. Like, it should work under the Vive Menu button. If I recall correctly, it was also under the XR Generic Primary button as well. It was Pre-OpenXR I believe.

[solar lagoon]

Input/menu/click

[brazen tundra]

What is that?

[brazen tundra]

According to the document, it's called primaryButton, but also did not work

[solar lagoon]

You have the openxr tookit and you have input specific for each controller

You are enabling them

On project setting /XR something

[brazen tundra]

Oh I know what you mean, and yes I think I enabled it

Let me check

I also tried all these buttons

And this is also checked

[solar lagoon]

Yeah so all good there

And when you are looking to the inputactions asset?

Maybe its wrongnamed

[brazen tundra]

What is that?

[solar lagoon]

The file that is mapping each key to an action

[brazen tundra]

Where can I find that file?

[solar lagoon]

It should be with the package. Mine is called InputActions

[sullen dirge]

How could I get an output from a socket interactor?

Basically I want to have a cube's color fade from red to green while it's in a socket interactor

[solar lagoon]

There is no call back/event on the socket?

Like on Activate @sullen dirge

[sullen dirge]

I think I found something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJWbu-QhT9g&ab_channel=VRwithAndrew

It might be something similar to the script at the beginning of this video?

Yeah I think I can modify some of the code from this video, just waiting on laptop to charge

[wanton fossil]

You want to do it on the Select Enter/Exit. Or, ProcessInteractable. There's a more similar example here.
https://youtu.be/JmaAHyNvA98

[dusk sky]

How can I make it so if I press a button on the controller that’s holding an object it drop something from a socket interactor. I’m using the XR toolkit.

[meager egret]

Any one else having this issue? it happens with continuous motion too

[solar lagoon]

Lol

Is it your teleport cursor ?

Remove the collider of it

@meager egret

[meager egret]

it is the sample unity provided, no collider there, it also happens with smooth locomotion

[solar lagoon]

Weird. I dunno I am using a custom one from valem tutorials

[brazen tundra]

Why do I see this when I'm with my helmet

But in the editor or not using XR it appears correctly

The health bar

I'm using Unity 2021 single pass

[marble wolf]

Are you building for the same platform and single pass for both cases?

Similar situation as above, I'm building for the Quest, and get what you see below where my skybox and Ocean are black when looking through this skinned mesh renderer

I'm using multiview/multipass so I know that's not the issue in this case, but it must be shader related.

[brazen tundra]

When I set it to multi pass, one eye will process shadows and the other won't

Only when I use XR...

[brazen tundra]

Building for VIVE, Rift, WMR and HP

[marble wolf]

Can't help you there unfortunately as my project is using 2019.4 with Oculus SDK for the Quest

[marble wolf]

This also only happens on the Quest. if I run in editor/PC build, I can see the water and skybox through the net.

[quick skiff]

Hi Folks, has anyone seen this kind of bug where movements and interactions are glitch/jittery, especially when rotating or moving backward? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZdxDqlqhzafyIZ95QVYw2vKls2W0SC1/view?usp=sharing

[solar lagoon]

Hey Guys ! still on my flying broom experience.

I configured the trigger of my valve index controller to be the thruster for the broom but the thing is after the trigger is completely press, my broom stop. because there is no more callback generated.

any ideas how I could get constant trust while I am leaving the trigger on

[hushed spruce]

(Not really great with VR) When are the callbacks generated, on a pressure change?

Could you just store the most recent trigger value every time you get the callback?

Do you maybe also need to register with some sort of OnRelease callback to track when it's being let go?

[solar lagoon]

yeah the thing is I am keeping the trust as long as the callback is on the even performed.

since it's relying on new input system, maybe I can create a an new inputionaction for trigger hold or something.

[tiny niche]

@solar lagoon you can also just poll the action for it's state

[wary girder]

Hi, Im having some issues with VR + Post Process Resources, when I tried VR Support Single Pass Instanced, Multi Pass and 360 Stereo support the output is:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/605437624559206469/828921310603509800/20210406021656_1.jpg

[buoyant jolt]

Not all post processing works on VR, and if you use it, be very sparing because the bugs change per headset and are expensive calculation costs

[wary girder]

thanks for the heads up, in this instance it just had the layer enabled which is why i found it weird

[novel cape]

I started getting this error last night after everything was working fine, and nothing I do seems to help. I've restarted Unity, SteamVR, and rebooted, and its still giving me the error...

UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent (int,intptr,bool&)```

I've also tried disabling post processing, which is what I was playing with when it all went south, but that doesn't help either. And while the error will go away if I switch to multi-pass rendering, in one eye I get an image which is too bright and in the other I get one which is too dark, so I think post processing is only getting applied to one eye for some reason. I'm using SteamVR through the HurricaneVR Unity plugin, and it's been working fine till last night when I added post processing to my scene.

[short heron]

Was GetStereoProjectionMatrix silently deprecated in Unity 2020.3? Camera.main.GetStereoProjectionMatrix(Camera.StereoscopicEye.Left) returns the correct projection matrix in 2019.4 but only an identity matrix in 2020.3. I can still find the projection matrix using the XRDisplaySubsystem but it's a lot more cumbersome...

[leaden flame]

Are you doing a Camera.SetStereoProjectionMatrix() before calling get?

[short heron]

Nope. Just getting.

[leaden flame]

The docs say The projection matrix will be provided by the VR SDK unless Camera.SetStereoProjectionMatrix or Camera.SetStereoProjectionMatrices have been used, in which case this method will return the value given to those methods. so yeah maybe not deprecated but maybe changed a bit? https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Camera.GetStereoProjectionMatrix.html

[novel cape]

Well, I've discovered removing the post processing layer from the main camera entirely causes the above error to go away, but not having any post processing means no HDR, and no auto exposure, which is unacceptable. And I know post processing works with VR and the standard renderer, which is what I'm using, because VRChat allows the use of it. But I don't know if they're using multi-pass rendering to make it work, and I'm using HurricaneVR to interface with SteamVR and Oculus, so I have a single API to deal with (plus it provides a lot of cool physics stuff like Boneworks) but that only uses one camera set to "both" and when I try to put post processing on that, I get a dark image in my right eye, and post processing in my left.

[short heron]

Yes, but I think that's the way it always worked. I've been trying to change the underlying XR provider between OpenVR/Mixed Reality/OpenXR but they all give me identity matrices in 2020.3.

[leaden flame]

I see, I can follow up internally but yeah I think the XR SDK / XR display system is probably the way to go

[short heron]

Nevermind. I'm unable to reproduce this issue with a fresh project. I'll keep digging. Thanks anyway! 🙂

[brazen tundra]

Try updating and downgrading the version of your postprocess through package manager

[novel cape]

I was on 3.0.3 which is the latest, but I'll try some older versions.

[brazen tundra]

It could work

Maybe also Help > Reset packages to default

Or if you are using a custom shader

Try this

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/SinglePassInstancing.html

Try to use single pass

Multi is too expensive

@marble wolf Hey man

Found the solution I think

To make your VR work with single pass and not have the shader issues

[brazen tundra]

Try this

[novel cape]

3.0.1 doesn't work... And 2.3.0 which is the only other version doesn't give the error, but also doesn't work either rendering a gray screen like the others.

I'm using single pass at the moment. I tried multi-pass only to try to get it working, but that just rendered post processing in one eye only.

"Maybe also Help > Reset packages to default" ... Do I want to do that? Is that going to completely screw up my project? I have a lot of different packages installed...

I'm not using any custom shaders. At least none that I know of. Just standard.

[brazen tundra]

Maybe make a copy first and try it on the copy

I don't use multi because of the same issue that you are having and also because it's too heavy

[novel cape]

I'm not using multi pass.

[brazen tundra]

Oh good

[novel cape]

If Reset Packages to Defaults is going to erase every other package I installed then its going to take hours to set everything up again just to get back to where I am at which point I'll probably have the same issue. If it does not erase all my packages then it's poorly named and I can't find any documentation on it or what it's suppossed to actually do....

Is there any way to see what shaders are currently in use in a project? I don't know if there are some rogue shaders in there that might be causing issues.

[novel cape]

https://forum.unity.com/threads/srp-unityxr-mixedreality-postprocessing-null-grey-screen.838198/#post-5640895

[brazen tundra]

What does that mean? That they are fixing the bug?

Everything was perfect before XR came...

[novel cape]

This is about it not working with UnityXR. Someone said it worked with SteamVR in that thread, but that's what I'm using and it's not working with that either. I've found several threads referencing a similar issue. As for what it means, they didn't say they're fixing it and I have yet to find any bug report on it but I don't recall where to look to find the Unity bug reports to search it, I've just been googling and searching the forum.

[brazen tundra]

They had SteamVR + XR

Because if you remove XR completely, that anoying message keeps popping up

If you go back to 2019.3, you are not gonna have these issues

[novel cape]

I don't really understand, as this whole UnityXR SteamVR OpenXR ecosystem is a mess, but the Hurricane VR dev had recommended using 2019 but support for that LTS ends in a year and 2020 LTS will continue two two years so I thought it prudent to use 2020 but if going back to 2019 will get this to work, then I guess I have no choice. So I'll try that later, but I'm skeptical it's gonna fix it. I saw a lot of people using 2019 versions that were also having a variety of issues in my searches.

[brazen tundra]

I don't understand either, I can't go back to 2019 because some things I did on 2020 don't work for the previous version, and now I'm stuck

[vernal hollow]

Trying to access VR controller values through code, can't get it to work for the life of me. I can tell the VR rig works by looking at the XR Interaction Debugger. No idea what I'm doing wrong.

https://hatebin.com/pyprdhvfkm

[brazen tundra]

https://github.com/C-Through/XR-OpenXR/blob/main/Assets/_OpenXR/Scripts/AssetInputExample.cs

Try these examples

[vernal hollow]

@brazen tundra Not sure what to do with this ...? I am just trying to read data from controller through code (e.g. 2d coordinates from joystick, etc) and print it to the console right now

Putting AssetInputEample on the XR Rig or one of the hands doesn't seem to do anything

[brazen tundra]

It's an example of another way of doing it

I tried the way you were doing before, and it did not work for me

[brazen tundra]

I didn't have to put AssetInputExample

Follow this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gEEQeu1b4&ab_channel=VRwithAndrew

And then try the examples fom the code

The only thing that I did the same as you, was getting the dpad value

[meager egret]

Anyone else having issues with valve index default hand orientation with the XR Interaction Toolkit?

[valid cloud]

a quick update on my previous question
i figured out that my reticle pointer wasnt detecting any interactable objects
when i built a new scene and did a basic setup i got to know that it works this way

and after that i moved to my previous scene to do some changes but still there's no detection of any project why is that so???

can anyone help me with the fix??

[marsh hearth]

what unity version do you use?

[winged frost]

Hi everyone!

how is everyone doing? I was wondering. what do some of

you use as physics project settings when working on vr games?

I am starting to think I can get some performance increase by toning down accuracy

[marsh hearth]

omg what if like in vr cardboard you use a system that does this : when you look at a cube like 5 seconds you grab it and if you leave the cube stand right there now like 2.5 seconds it falls.

[short heron]

After some isolation work I actually managed to find a way to repro this in a fresh 2020.3.2f1 project and the bug seems to be using Solid Color as Background Type for camera in URP (could not reproduce when using standard pipeline):

Create a new 3D project
Install XR Management package
Install Mixed Reality package
Configure Mixed Reality as active XR plugin
Install URP 10.4
Create new scene
Convert main camera to XR Rig
Put a script somewhere in the scene that prints Camera.main.GetStereoProjectionMatrix(Camera.StereoscopicEye.Left)
Run scene: See that projection matrix is correctly set
Change camera Background Type from Skybox to Solid Color
Run scene again: projection matrix is always identity

[solar lagoon]

Hey guys is someone already used Tree from Terrain in VR? I have a weird thing. When i am moving my head ( xrrig) the leaves of the tree are moving synchronously....

[buoyant jolt]

Do you mean a billboard effect?

[solar lagoon]

Not sure what billboard effect is but basically the tree leave is orienting based on my sight

[hushed spruce]

Sounds like a billboard effect yeah. A plane with a texture is used to simulate a more 3d object by always rotating it to face you

Think of grass and bushes in old 3d games

Making leaves billboard isn't too uncommon. Can you check the material or shader on the leaves?

Not quite sure what "Tree from Terrain" is exactly though

[solar lagoon]

When you pain tree

Paint

On Terrain

[buoyant jolt]

Yeah VR is funny because billboarding has a negative impact. A lot of the terrain tools billboard and aren't s good fit for VR

For trees I use actual tree models instead

[solar lagoon]

Oh so not terrain but directly the prefab?

I will try to show a video of the issue later

Its old apparently

https://forum.unity.com/threads/unity-tree-billboard-bug-with-oculus-unity-what-is-going-on.406006/

Oh I will try a different shader. Maybe there is one for vr

[pliant meadow]

Yeah I think the only solution is to use tree models.

[hushed spruce]

Yeah billboards in VR... I haven't experienced but I can only imagine they do not work nearly as well as a flat-screen-game

Maybe for super distance objects

[valid cloud]

i use 2019 LTS version

[marsh hearth]

it's the correct version i think

but very strange

[valid cloud]

and guys i fixed my issue well didnt fixedd it i found a other way around
well in this scene there was a earth model which i wanted to make interactable
but when i replaced it with a cube the problem stayed

[valid cloud]

and here when i put in the earth model it didnt recognized as a interactable object
but when i took a sphere and applied the earth texture on it the sphere was interactable

[valid cloud]

still i dont know why my cube didnt had any effect in here

[valid cloud]

yeah thats what i am thinking what goin wrong 🤔

[marsh hearth]

btw thanks for the info bc im using google's vr system and if i have this problem now i have the solution 😋

[valid cloud]

no well we can say
the problem fixed and didnt fix lol

did u get what i explained here
the messages before i replied to yours

well i would like to know about the lighting setting in GVR??
can u help me out in that???

[marsh hearth]

i'm litterally 1 year unity experience

im dumb with all idk what to do with the error, in summary im learning how unity works

[valid cloud]

same goes for me dont worry

[solar lagoon]

Same after 5 years ! :p

[slender vine]

Hey guys, whats the current recommended pipeline for VR development, specifically for the quest 2 (android)?

I've previously just gone with the standard 3d because there were just a lot of compatibility and stability issues last time I checked

Also using 2020.3 is this "VR" template a good starting point? What pipeline does it use?

[tiny niche]

@slender vine you need to use the legacy pipeline if you want to support Oculus avatars. Otherwise i'd suggest URP

i prefer to use the URP template or start with an empty project though. The VR template had too much stuff going on imo.

[slender vine]

Aah thanks for the info, Im tempted to stick with the standard pipeline for compatability but URP does seem to have some nice visual improvements.

[pine bison]

URP is still contained to experiments for me 😅 It's a lot better than it was already, but still feels a bit unstable

[solar lagoon]

is someone know nice free tree asset that work in URP and also in VR.

so no use of billboard?

[tribal ibex]

Does anyone have experience using an 8k or higher video in VR with HDRP?

[wraith shale]

I do wonder what kind of hardware you have if you can actually decode higher than 8k as current high end gpu's barely do 8k @ 24Hz

hardware capability aside, I wouldn't expect that to work any differently than lower resolution video (code / setup wise)

[tribal ibex]

I have a 3080, the video is recorded with a 360 degrees camera

we thought about using h265 but it has major issues on windows, another approach would be to split the video in 4 videos with 2k resolution and attach it together in Unity

Not sure about how this would work

[hard carbon]

Hey all 🙂 So, im used to using the Oculus Integration Package, but was going to follow a tutorial (posted a month ago) to learn XR Toolkit. Pulled the guys code into my project, it looks like it cant find the Interaction namespace within Unity.XR

Anyone know where im going wrong here? Projects activated for XR and all that. Cant find XR Toolkit in the unity registry, so im assuming its included in the normal XR Plugin Manager

oof nevermind, i wasnt showing preview packages (fresh version of unity wiped my setting)

[wary junco]

Does LTS mean limited time support? Thought it meant Long Term Support. There are a lot of devs still using 2018 because of how stable it is.

[novel cape]

LTS means long term support but according to the blog post I found about it LTS means two years of support from the release of the LTS version, with frequent and big updates the first year and then less frequent bug fixes only the second. So using 2018 LTS now two years later isn't ideal unless it does everything you need and has no major bugs. I ended up going with 2019 LTS for my new project because Post Processing doesn't work with VR in 2020 standard renderer and I didn't want to switch to URP because there's not that much out there for it yet and I have a lot of standard renderer shaders.

[tiny niche]

@hard carbon did you reference the correct packages?

[mossy ridge]

Does anyone have an idea of why I would't be able to see my controlers? They are being tracked and it knows when I move/ grab things but I can't see them.

would this be like a build settings problem or like a camera settings?

[tiny niche]

@mossy ridge have you added models to them?

[leaden patio]

i uploaded a file from blender and now my teleport isn't working? as far as i can see there's no reason that a purely made pistol would break previously working stuff and yet it does. there is now areas i can't and shouldn't be able to teleport to, that still it shows up acting as if they can and areas that i should be able to teleport to that act like i can teleport to them but they still don't teleport. i'm not sure what's happening. all i've done since is bring that file in. anyone know what's happening and why it's happening?

it's even broken after i've deleted the file and redone the teleportation.

literally anywhere there's ground it registers as teleportable even though it can't teleport anywhere

[fierce forge]

@tiny niche these are the warnings being thrown

[mossy ridge]

@tiny niche I was asking for @fierce forge while he was waiting to be whitelisted

[fierce forge]

tyty

but yeah, i the models are children of the handanchors

[nova vessel]

Anyone know how to set a vector deadzone on the loaded action set in SteamVR?

Implementing my own deadzone isn't viable, it appears to be a lower level issue SteamVR's deadzone handles, need to be able to set it at runtime

Quest 2 link bindings uses Touch

So does the CV1, so setting a deadzone for it will apply to the CV1, would like to be able to set in the code based on the HDM

[nova vessel]

Nvm, figured it out

[valid cloud]

its a simple question but i want to know can we increase the range(distance from the camera to interactable object) of our raycast???

[winged frost]

hi there!

does anyone know a volumetric lighting method that works in single pass VR?

not single pass instanced but simple single pass?

I tried the kronnect one but that one advertises as being able to..yet sofar it has artifacts in single pass

[wraith shale]

anyone know any sample for using this? https://github.com/shiena/OpenXRRuntimeSelector

I know that repo has small snippet but basically the sample is missing how you should config the xr management system initialization with this

[wraith shale]

actually nevermind, I think I got the order of things down, had to figure out the right way to init xr management itself first

why can't unity just put a snippet on docs for this?

in past the manual init was like 1-2 lines of code and it was dead simple

[lone knoll]

unity doesn't love updating its docs

[wraith shale]

but I guess this goes along with unity complicating everything..

the thing is, actual doc page HAS the info, it's just scattered around and misleading

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.xr.management@4.0/api/UnityEngine.XR.Management.XRManagerSettings.html

my initial assumption after reading this:

was that you just implement that

but since the init is coroutine, you can't just naively do that

[lone knoll]

its a case of auto auto generated docs where there should be none - like instead of a 10 pages with property descriptive info it would be better to have 1 with an example

[wraith shale]

yeah, I really loved the old docs format

[lone knoll]

oh man i remember this one - i used to try tens of different methods without any docs to try and get it working in code before

https://gist.github.com/nukadelic/bd1f99d7af4d842ca8a9c41d5564b5b0

[wraith shale]

final code isn't even complicated, but would have appreciated some sample snippet

[lone knoll]

u can see the commended attempts i left there for reference

[wraith shale]

thanks, I got it initialized already though 🙂

my current init / deinit class is like 35 lines but this is just bare bones

also turned out I don't even need that runtime selector thing to make quest 2 run on oculus mode anymore

I wonder what happened because in past it really wanted to run only on openvr

[lone knoll]

that repo u linked above looks like it won't be backwards compatible if stuff change in the future ... not sure if its will ever be the case tho 🤔

[wraith shale]

in fact, currently it doesn't even run openxr in steamvr mode at ll

[wraith shale]

yeah that looked sketchy alright 😄

[lone knoll]

you don't

[wraith shale]

I mean, I get it's supposed to be automatic

[lone knoll]

i mean i think u don't - my quest 2 is about to be delivered to me in a day or two 😅

didn't try it out yet

yes auto

you just leave it as the only option and auto init xr

after all its a unique APK build for the quest 1 / 2

[wraith shale]

basically what happened to me before was that both oculus link and virtual desktop only saw the quest 2 as openvr with openxr in actual build

which does kinda suck as oculus runtime performs tad better on quest

I'm still trying to figure out what happened here because now I can't get this to run in steamvr at all (which isn't huge deal but would be nice for testing)

oh I don't really try to do this for native quest

this is for pcvr

[lone knoll]

steamvr and quest ?

oh

it should be doable if you don't target oculus feature

[wraith shale]

basically either using usb cable or wifi with virtual desktop

unitys openxr package doesn't even support quest natively so if you deploy to device, you have to use OculusXR

like, if you need native quest apk, oculusxr is your only option today with the new xr management system

[lone knoll]

openxr package doesn't even support quest natively - i thought it did , last time i seen an open xr option in android for the build options

[wraith shale]

it shows up there but docs state it doesn't work

I've never tested this as I can't even see any reason to even do this

[lone knoll]

^ oculus

[wraith shale]

hmmm, wonder if you need oculus version of that then

(asset store)

[lone knoll]

they will be moving away from thier API similar to what steam vr plugin is aiming for

[wraith shale]

or if the official openxr package docs are still trailing behind

[lone knoll]

everything its still in transition

hence alot of confusion

[wraith shale]

either way, if you mainly target quest, I don't really see why you'd pick openxr over oculusxr for it today

you are just losing some device specific api by doing that and not gaining anything

[lone knoll]

wdym by oculusxr ?

[wraith shale]

xr package for oculus

[lone knoll]

both should be fairly similar , no ?

steam is using xr inputs now with its newest version of the plugin

[wraith shale]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.xr.oculus@1.9/manual/index.html

I haven't checked openxr api but can you for example set 90Hz on quest 2 with it? or Fixed Foveated Rendering?

[lone knoll]

i will find out soon enough

[wraith shale]

it's possible it's there but I haven't checked, I know oculus plugin does those 🙂

[lone knoll]

i hope so

[wraith shale]

I don't really care much of the native quest side though, I'm mainly doing that on my free time to explore it, pc vr is only thing that really matters for me

[lone knoll]

those docs above were updated on 23 March 2021 ( in the footer ) ?

if so then it looks still in active development

[lone knoll]

not for long lol

ARM revolution is near wahaahha

[wraith shale]

oculusxr package has been in active development all along

only thing that really got left behind was openvr

[lone knoll]

yea that's a bit sad

[wraith shale]

basically unity never supported it on the new xr management setup, and now they brought openxr that supports it

even valve seem to have put the openvr package they maintained on themselves into some kind of maintenance mode as they now focus on openxr

[lone knoll]

wait is this an open-xr feature u can select the one u linked above or are you talking about the recent UnityXr package that is part of the xr managment thing

[wraith shale]

I haven't checked if things have changed but in past that valve's openvr xr plugin didn't support DX12 on windows, new OpenXR package from Unity does support it

[lone knoll]

valve been updating the inputs api for unity xr

[wraith shale]

I meant the oculus option above openxr here

that's disabled because openxr overrides it

[lone knoll]

ah so it is not a feature

i see

"Feature Set" by open-xr

[wraith shale]

valve's openvr option would show up there too if you installed the integration manually

[wraith shale]

but yeah, this is kinda messy right now

also if you need steamvr package, easiest is to just grab it from asset store

[lone knoll]

last time i checked it does still works without issues

[wraith shale]

did work when I tried it week or so ago

[lone knoll]

which is odd given how much changed unity made to vr overall

any recommendation for the quest-2 ?

[wraith shale]

I'd just use the oculusxr package today

[lone knoll]

yea seems for the best since its packed with bunch of goodies

i been using the open-xr desktop on for a while now without much issues as well but that's for the rift-s

[wraith shale]

in theory, you don't even need oculus integration set from asset store, only the oculusxr package. but I also had some trouble getting the 90Hz mode initialized while using the stock package despite the api was there for it

it could have been some user error too

[lone knoll]

you can check how they do it in the official asset

and implement it urself

instead of having alot of unnecessary default assets

[wraith shale]

only way I got the 90Hz to work was to get the experimental openxr plugin from official oculus asset, it was a really weird combo

it's still oculus plugin and not to be confused with the openxr package from unity

current state of vr dev in Unity is very messy IMO

[lone knoll]

yea lol

[wraith shale]

there seems to be some workarounds required for everything I try on it

at least we don't have to put double cameras for each eye anymore like in Unity 4 days :p

[lone knoll]

everyone is stepping on each other's toes

[wraith shale]

but other than that, it's not gotten any simpler since that

[lone knoll]

i never been there lol

my journey began with the purchase of the rift-s

[wraith shale]

yeah, that was how you did it on DK1, probably DK2 days too

[lone knoll]

what convinced me was the tower less set up

[wraith shale]

this is really wonky... I found out how I got the openxr running on oculus runtime before

basically if I use editors "Built and Run", it launches the thing in runtime set for editor on OpenXR settings..

it says editor instance only but it does apply also for the standalone instance it launches via editor on "built and run"

if I just launch the exe directly myself, it's always using steamvr, even when I'm connected with oculus link cable

if I swap that openxr runtime (editor instance only) to use system default, it will launch the standalone app on steamvr regardless how I launch it so it's definitely using that setting to toggle it somewhere

also... I tried OpenXR on DX12 now... it works only with oculus runtime, with steamvr I just get black screen

[wraith shale]

well... I did solve why the editor instance only thing worked

I looked what happens on openxr package code for this.. basically they do different type vr runtime detection in editor and then set XR_RUNTIME_JSON system environment variable based on this

basically since they set this for editor, when editor launches the standalone exe, it's still in scope for the temporary environment variable as well... when I launch the standalone exe myself, it's out of scope for the editor's env. var. setter

this is actually the same thing https://github.com/shiena/OpenXRRuntimeSelector tries to do

now that I know what's going on, I can check why that didn't work for me when I tried it... I just implemented the oculus runtime check like OpenXR package does in the editor and it definitely works in runtime now too

[wraith shale]

I know this is a wall of text already but... I wonder if OpenXR package sets OculusLoader to be incompatible because it just implements the runtime itself?

I ask because if remove the oculusloader removal from cs public string[] IncompatibleLoaders => new string[] { "UnityEngine.XR.WindowsMR.WindowsMRLoader", "Unity.XR.Oculus.OculusLoader", };

it appears to use OpenXR for steamvr and OculusXR for oculus now just fine if I build standalone app with both oculusxr and openxr enabled

I also wonder why the OpenXR doesn't use oculus runtime on standalone by default, it just feels wrong

[wraith shale]

while looking into why DX12 doesn't work on OpenXR's OpenVR mode I came across this log entry: [XR] [32492] [16:56:26.221][Info ] ==== OpenXR Support Details ==== [XR] [32492] [16:56:26.221][Info ] OpenXR Runtime: [XR] [32492] [16:56:26.221][Info ] Valve, which is not a Unity supported partner

they even highlight on the player logs that Valve is not Unity's supported partner

this is file that gets generated on our clients computers too

like, why would they even print that there, some things must have gone really badly sideways with Unity and Valve

also few lines later: [XR] [32492] [16:56:26.221][Info ] Unity Support: [XR] [32492] [16:56:26.221][Info ] Unity doesn't support some aspects of the runtime and Unity OpenXR Features above. Please attempt to reproduce the issue with only Unity supported aspects before submitting an issue to Unity.

[tiny niche]

that just says you're attempting to use a feature that's not implemented

[vast thorn]

Hey, has anyone used google VR recently? I'm having a problem with UI mask component not working correctly on Unity 2019.4.6 using the XR Plugin Management

the mask simply doesn't work

there are some topics about this, and even potential fixes

And set that to 24-bit depth | 8-bit stencil.```

But there is no such option anymore when using XR Plugin Management

[leaden flame]

@wraith shale trying to follow the thread a bit and seeing if there's any specific feedback or confusion with the OpenXR integration, it looks like you're trying to create a single project that can select / use multiple platform integrations via a custom loader? Let me know if there's some specific feature or feedback you want to pass along and I can try and raise it internally.

[wraith shale]

@leaden flame there's basically few separate issues here atm:

• OpenXR only working on DX12 while running in Oculus runtime. In OpenVR/SteamVR it just gives black screen and noninformative error on logs about Valve not being supported partner.
• OpenXR always defaulting to OpenVR on standalone builds (I can force it to use Oculus runtime by setting the env. variable for JSON file like OpenXR does in editor)
• Previous manual forcing with env. var actually happens accidentally while using "Build and Run" in editor since the env. var is set by editor instance and it's in scope for the standalone windows build as well if the editor itself launches it
• OpenXR's Oculus mode doesn't work with Quest 2 + Virtual Desktop combo while trying to run PCVR wireless - this is expected as VD doesn't support Oculus runtime in OpenXR but since OculusXR instead works with Virtual Desktop, it would be nice to allow OculusXR and OpenXR at the same time. I tried removing the OculusXR loader from automatically removed list on OpenXR and it did seem to work but I'm not sure what kind of negative side effects this will have (other than Oculus runtime using OculusXR now instead of OpenXR). I'm curious what I should expect if I go this route.

this all is with Quest 2 with Oculus Link cable - except in the last point where it's being used wireless via Virtual Desktop's PCVR streaming

I get that the last part is totally out of scope of what Unity would support as frankly it's a hack but it's very popular option that many devs do want to support still

And yeah basically I do want to be able to force Oculus runtime to be used on Oculus devices - and preferrably let user override the runtime selection via command line variable like in old Unity VR setup (-vrmode oculus etc). Currently OpenXR just defaults to SteamVR on standalone builds despite me running it via Oculus Link on Quest 2.

While SteamVR/OpenVR works on OpenXR with Quest 2, Oculus runtime is tad smoother and it has more consistent delta times (for reasons I don't know but I can clearly see the difference when I log these values)

[storm ether]

When i launch my game in oculas why cant i look around and its just a screen of where my store will be i need help please

[wraith shale]

@leaden flame re: DX12 support in Unity's VR. Valve couldn't add support on their OpenVR plugin because some limitation from Unity's side: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/unity-xr-plugin/issues/68

and now OpenXR doesn't support DX12 on OpenVR either. it's just very far from ideal when engine users have to suffer from whatever is going between Valve and Unity atm.

[solar lagoon]

Hey Guys

any ideas why this wouldn't work? no script issue or anything but the animation is not updated. that is the first time I am trying to poll the instant value of a controller

 if (inputActions.LeftHand.Trigger.phase == UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputActionPhase.Performed)
        {
            Debug.Log("Trigger touched");
            float trigger = inputActions.LeftHand.Trigger.ReadValue<float>();
            handAnim.SetFloat("Trigger", trigger);
        }```

in order to listen to controller inputaction

is having this in awake is enough

    public InputActions inputActions;

    private Animator handAnim;


    private void Awake()
    {
        inputActions = new InputActions();
    }

    private void OnEnable()
    {
        inputActions.RightHand.Enable();
        inputActions.LeftHand.Enable();

    }

and this to enable the actions

[brazen tundra]

Agree 100%

[wraith shale]

as extra note, DX12 worked just fine on the old VR system on Unity 2019. It's just broken on 2020+ where you have to use the new XR management system

[solar lagoon]

Personne ? 😄 allez je designe. @abstract isle , pourrais-tu m aider? comme tant de fois ces dernieres semaines

[abstract isle]

Do you need inputActions.Enable(); too?

[leaden flame]

It's the weekend now but I will follow up on Monday and pass this feedback along to the team. FWIW I'm about 80% confident that DX12 support isn't related to Unity and Valve's relationship at all it's more of a priority and limited resources with the XR team at Unity. We've added support for DX12 for HoloLens 2 I believe but there's work required to enable it on PC and for all supported VR platforms on PC.

This task is actually related as ray tracing in only supported in DX12 so if that's a big priority or issue I encourage you to mark this topic and maybe submit a separate one as well. https://portal.productboard.com/brs5gbymuktquzeomnargn2u/c/573-raytracing-support?utm_medium=social&utm_source=portal_share

This feedback goes directly to the XR product team.

[wraith shale]

@leaden flame yeah DXR is actually the only reason I even try to make DX12 work atm 🙂 it doesn't make sense to support it if it's only working on oculus runtime as it's leaving a ton of windows vr headsets behind then

DXR/raytracing has been working on HDRP VR from a quite while already. It worked on the previous VR setup on 2019.4 for example. In fact when I tested DX12 with OpenXR, I had raytraced reflections enabled and it did work on Oculus runtime part, just not on SteamVR/OpenVR. But there are still for sure some issues with it.

for any of the raytracing to be truly feasible to use in VR, we'd need DLSS support though but that's another topic and I know Unity is also working on that too (no idea if DLSS will be implemented for VR though but would expect it to as Unreal already supports it there)

[low axle]

so basically im having this issue

the vr headset fov ( not fov problematic i cant tell u that ) is zooming in every 1-3 seconds after launch

and it just keeps on zooming like bop…. bop ….. boo

OVR btw

@upbeat coral

[tiny niche]

@low axle does it do this in an empty project? cause there's nothing in the default tracking rig that's normally capable of doing that

[solar lagoon]

I think so, i used similar code for the flying broom. The difference is that I used the .performed+= ctx read value blah

[normal gyro]

How can I get the username of the oculus player?

[tiny niche]

i doubt you can, since they're going away with the facebook logins

[elfin shuttle]

anyone having issues with Single Pass Instanced mode with MockHMD/Oculus Quest via XR Management? whenever i have it enabled i get the left eye gray and the right eye black, even with no post effects enabled

like that's just a plain scene and it's broken :/

using URP 10 and MockHMD 1.3-preview

[torpid aspen]

does anybody know why the continous movement script isnt there for some reason despite having all of my xr plugins installed?

I

*i

*i'm trying to setup my locomtion system

[low axle]

Sometimes it happens and sometimes not.. its weird

[normal gyro]

Oculus.Platform.Users.GetLoggedInUser() returns this:

[tiny niche]

@normal gyro what you're seeing there is a complex type, meaning it's a class that might have the property you're after

[normal gyro]

Yeah, I got it

@tiny niche I successfully got my own username, but I sent it to one of my friends, but they didn't get a name

I did the app requesting things on the oculus dashboard

[tiny niche]

i'm guessing you did the dev part of it, so i think they'd have to do it too in order to hook it up to the ovr services on their machine

[placid spruce]

can someone help me out, i am currently trying to run a build and a test in the editor at the same time in VR, but it will close one or the other and wont let me run both. anyway to stop this from happening?

[normal gyro]

So what should I do about it? Submit to app lab?

I'm really confused

Oculus is pretty uncool

[tiny niche]

unless your app comes from the store, i don't think ovr exposes anything account related

[normal gyro]

Makes sense

[tiny niche]

your own machine being an exception though, since to did the dev mode setup for your app and pc

[normal gyro]

Hmm

I'm wondering what I should do

I don't want to make the users enter their own names

[tiny niche]

i would implement a fallback that lets the thing work as intended without the account info. since you'd normally want to release on more than just oculus' store

[normal gyro]

Eh

Not sure about that

[tiny niche]

and why do you need their names anyways?

[normal gyro]

Leaderboard system

I don't want to develop a keyboard system, so...

[tiny niche]

and you don't think people would want a guest system for that? so they could compete with their friends, run a local tournament, etc.

[stray meadow]

has anyone faced a problem where the apk build takes several minutes to load on the Oculus quest 2then the screen just appears blank? I have noticed if i take my head set off and back on i can see a frame of my actual game then it continues to go blank

[normal gyro]

you use oculus plugin?

[stray meadow]

yeah

version 25.0

[torpid aspen]

does anybody know how I can do a non vr camera for people watching in the real world? (its for a vr game)

[tiny niche]

@torpid aspen there's some docs on how to do it. i think it's referred to as the mirror

[hardy sand]

XR Toolkit: is it possible to use EventTrigger to activate stuff by only using the trigger?

[torpid aspen]

@tiny niche an you send me those docs? I can’t find them anywhere?

And I was thinking an external camera not a first person camera

[tiny niche]

@torpid aspen https://docs.unity3d.com/2020.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/XR.XRDisplaySubsystem.SetPreferredMirrorBlitMode.html

[hearty berry]

Hey! I'm new to XR and i've been struggling with simply adding an eject button for a gun

Preety much i just want the primary button on the controller you're holding the gun with to eject the magazine

I know you need to use InputDevice.TryGetFeatureValue() but i dont know how to decide what InputDevice should be

how do i check what inputDevice is the one you're holding the gun with?

Should i put this kinda functionality in the HandPresence (the script where i initialize the hand models and update animators, where i have the InputDevice) or the gun?

[tiny niche]

@hearty berry you have the gun check what's holding it

[novel cape]

Has anyone experimented with adjusting the IPD in Unity? In VRChat, which uses Unity, when you change into a smaller avatar, the world around you gets larger. I'm pretty sure this effect is a direct result of altering the IPD, because simply making you shorter would not make the world seem comparatively larger, and would just make you feel like you'd ducked or your feet suddenly sank into the ground. Of course when I search for how to change the IPD, all I find are references saying that changing it on the camera won't work because the headset provides it, and a Unity dev saying changing it is a bad idea because it makes people sick, but that's clearly not the case because people do it constantly in VRChat. Maybe he meant changing it slowly might make people sick, but again, I've experienced that effect in VRChat with a world that grows around you, which should look identical to changing the IPD, so I think that guy was just wrong and being way to cautious.

Anyway, I'm wondering how to acheive this. I think I could set up two cameras and make them children of my main camera object and then set each one to render to one eye, though I don't know if that will be compatible with the single pass rendering I'm currently doing. It'd be a shame to lose the performance gains I got with that, but if this is the only way I can change the IPD in Unity to get this effect then I guess I'd have to resort to multi pass rendering.

[novel cape]

Hm, I just read about that bug with Post Processing halving the resolution in single pass mode, and I thought now was a good time to test multi pass rendering to see how big the performance hit is (not big on my 3080, in fact I can't even see a difference in fps) and I found an unpleasant bug in the auto exposure... Rather than calculate a single value that's used for both eyes, in multi-pass rendering, it calculates exposure per eye, so if I'm looking into a dark room and one eye can see a bright pillar in front of the window but the other eye cannot, then the eye with the pillar will render the room much darker, and the effect is annoying. I'm using 2019.4 btw.

[novel cape]

What's up with these light pixels around the edges of the handles? I'm getting some aliasing but as far as I can tell I should be running at 8x MSAA...

[ripe badger]

Hello, anyone try to use VREditor with quest 2 with unity 2021? A have a lot problem with this, starting from missing "XR setting" in the Project setting-> Player

[dusk sky]

how can i take input from the controller thats grabbing an object.

[elfin shuttle]

figured out something else with my Single Pass Instanced issues. seems the Camera Opaque Color pass breaks

still no leads on how to fix it though, any ideas?

[simple tartan]

What is the recommended frameworks/setup for for VR dev with latest unity?

[hearty berry]

unity xr

[simple tartan]

Are there any open source toolkits that build on top that should be used?

[hearty berry]

it uses openVR it's open source

it runs on oculus headsets and steamvr headsets, wmr too i think.

[simple tartan]

URP or Legacy render pipeline?

[hearty berry]

both work, i used to work on SRP for a bit, i've switched to URP for the VFX pipeline

but i think URP performs worse

it's up to you, it depends on what assets you will use

[simple tartan]

hm ok

[tiny niche]

@simple tartan urp just has too many advantages to pass up on. the only reason you might want to go for the legacy pipeline is oculus avatar compatibility

[simple tartan]

Oculus Avatar?

[pine bison]

There is VRTK4 / Tilia which is an open source project for VR interactions. It has things like locomotion, teleportation, grabbing and climbing, and recently added support for the XR toolkit and the new input system

[simple tartan]

Oh that vr in-person avatar thing

Meh 😄

This is VRTK right: https://github.com/ExtendRealityLtd/VRTK ?

[pine bison]

Yes, an older version of v4

[simple tartan]

ah i found the site

https://www.vrtk.io/

and package list

[pine bison]

Here's the most up to date tutorial https://github.com/ExtendRealityLtd/VRTK.Tutorials.VRBowling

[simple tartan]

is this stuff recommended to use?

[pine bison]

It's just an alternative

[simple tartan]

If you were to start a fairly complex VR game today and needed a lot of custom functionality

Would you go with VRTK/Tilia or do it based on unitys latest XR?

[pine bison]

XR interaction toolkit is pretty barebones so you'd have to do a lot of stuff yourself or find assets that do things like doors, drawers etc

[simple tartan]

I mean I can program very well myself, so that's not a problem

[tiny niche]

vrtk might be suitable if you want to make a quick prototype. but personally i think it's too complicated to be worth investing in for a shipping project, where you want to spend time polishing the interactions

[simple tartan]

@tiny niche Okey, thanks that's exactly the feedback I wanted to hear.

[pine bison]

Hehe we use it in a shipped product so I guess it depends

[tiny niche]

i did add a caveat at the end

[simple tartan]

Yeah I'm looking to have a lot of custom interactions etc.

Okey cool

[pliant tangle]

plz help i have mangaged with steamvr 2.7 to pickup my gun but i cant get it to fire a bullet im not a coder any help would be appreciated

public SteamVR_Action_Boolean FireAction = SteamVR_Input.GetAction<SteamVR_Action_Boolean>("gun", "FireAction");

[tiny niche]

@pliant tangle https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/tour-of-csharp/tutorials/ you may not be a coder today, but you'll still need to know a thing or 2 about programming to put a game together

[unique charm]

hello people... any tips on how to tackle the lagging of line renderer when the character moves? I have tried the Application.OnBeforeRender method but it does not make any difference. Is it a problem with the continuous locomotion system? 😕

https://answers.unity.com/questions/1742489/linerenderer-lagging-behind.html

[torpid aspen]

is it possible to use urp with xr toolkit?

[wraith shale]

yes, xr interaction toolkit samples are even setup to use URP by default

(https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/XR-Interaction-Toolkit-Examples)

@torpid aspen ^

[scarlet tree]

Okay, can anyone explain this?

Quest 2. Multipass. ~40 Draw calls. 40FPS.

[pine bison]

How many vertices?

[scarlet tree]

Here's the timeline. What in the seven hells is going on here?!

it's in the image, Sub-100K Tris

[pine bison]

And do you have Vsync disabled?

[scarlet tree]

Doesn't the Quest handle VSync automatically?

But yes, Vsync is off in the player settings

I can try doing a build with it on, but I don't see how that'd help

[pine bison]

It shouldn’t, no

[scarlet tree]

There's a bunch of other problems running in multiview, too, like my skybox and any UI objects just not rendering

[brazen tundra]

Happens to me too, like shadows will only work with one eye

Can you use single pass?

[scarlet tree]

Multiview is single pass

Multipass renders as intended, but the performance issues still remain

[brazen tundra]

Ohhh got it

Have you tried this?

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/SinglePassInstancing.html

It worked for most shaders

[scarlet tree]

all of my shaders are either URP standard simple Lit, or based on Shadergraph

[brazen tundra]

But why all these issues happen with XR but not with Unity 2019.3 using SteamVR?

[scarlet tree]

On PC, everything renders as intended, perfectly well

in multiview i'm actually getting better performance lol

55-60FPS

eh. I give up. I'm gonna come back to quest later. Hopefully with Money from our PC early access launch.

y'know, so I can pay someone who knows what the fuck they're doing (unlike me) to figure this out XD

[north path]

From what I see online it could be that Vsync is enabled somewhere and forced to a lower fps.
Also what oculus plugin version are you running?

[slender vine]

Hey guys, has anyone done and networking using photon products in combination with VR?

Trying to decide between PUN 2 and Bolt, if anyone has any experience / recommendations?

[scarlet tree]

@north path But where? AFAIK Oculus set Vsync internally? The XR Plugin is 1.9.0

[north path]

I have no idea where exactly 😅
Maybe test it with a new project

[scarlet tree]

test what?

Honestly I still think it's something in the scene maybe

cause performance is quite variable depending on where I turn my head

But I'm like completely stumped, the worst thing the scene is looking at is a big honking Skinned mesh character that dominates most of the scene

.....

Oh, I frickin' swear if this is all because of the damned NPC... hides character, rebuilds

[north path]

Testing performance in a other scene could verify that. Just disabling some objects that could cause it can also help

[north path]

Damn those NPCs lol

[scarlet tree]

I need some way to just, like, disable objects while in vr

like, in a quest build I mean

or better yet, VR Bluestacks, a Quest Virtual machine 🙂

yeah, not the NPC

[whole lichen]

Hey, I made a project for an internship last year. It was for Oculus Quest with PUN2. I did something basic with the Unity XR Toolkit. It was working well for what I needed to do (continuous movement, interaction with object through raycast for the scale, layer, material, audio, animations ...). It was not that hard to put in place for my first VR project thanks to numerous tutorials. 😄
However I do not have any experience with Bolt.

[slender vine]

Thanks for the input 🙂 So far that's pointing me toward PUN then haha, I'm mainly asking in case anyone knows of any glaring reasons to use one over the other so even just that is a great endorsement 😁

[sonic violet]

Quick question

When staring a new project for oculus quest should the build target be set to android

[scarlet tree]

preferably, yes, but you can switch between things just fine

[sonic violet]

Ok thank you @scarlet tree

[leaden flame]

@wraith shale I passed your feedback along and started some discussion internally. I did want to provide a bit more clarity on some issues and as you're aware some things are out of our (Unity's) control with things like Virtual desktop and some things in Open XR.

First when 'building and running' with OpenXR. When you do a build and run your computer treats that like an additional process from the Unity editor. Because of this whatever runtime you have set in your OpenXR settings will still be set in this 'build and run' build. If you close the build and relaunch the application it will use the system setting for whichever OpenXR runtime you have set there. We're discussing this internally now and might end up using the system wide setting regardless of that dropdown during a 'build and run'.

For things like a smart default of selecting the right runtime or a launch parameter for OpenXR that's a bit out of our hands and something that could end up in OpenXR in the future but really lies with the working group.

I'm still following up on DX12 support in SteamVR and will let you know when I hear back about that. I hope this clears up some of the issues and confusion.

A final note (I saw you discussing this a bit) I use this powershell script for easily setting / changing the different OpenXR runtimes https://github.com/maluoi/StereoKit/blob/develop/Set-OXR-Runtime.ps1

[warm whale]

Help please

I can't hear sounds from audio sources on oculus quest

I can hear them in the editor

[scarlet tree]

@warm whale
1: Check that you have the oculus Spatializer updated.
2: Make sure it is installed in your unity project settings under Audio: https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/audio-osp-unity-req-setup/
3: Every Audio Source in your game needs an ONSP Audio Source Component, regardless of wether you're wanting spatialized audio or not
4: Use the Oculus Audio Profiler app to diagnose any other issues, it's available through the Oculus Dev Tools: https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/tools/odh/

5: err.. Make sure that your volume controls are turned up on the quest? 🙂

[warm whale]

@scarlet tree I've got all that set up still not working

[scarlet tree]

check your logs through Android LogCat

[wraith shale]

@leaden flame thanks for the info. Any chance to get some info on why openxr marks oculusxr incompatible when openxr is enabled? I'm mainly asking as I'd want to force oculusxr loader in case user wants it (this is needed mainly for virtual desktop pcvr streaming). I'm assuming openxr disables oculusxr because openxr handles oculus runtime normally..

[leaden flame]

I think that assumption is correct but I'll double check with the team.

[vast jasper]

hey everyone. i have a question about Unity shaders in Oculus VR. Im trying to get the Unity HDRP/lit shader show normal map depth, but nothing is working. what should i do to get the normals working in VR?

[wraith shale]

@vast jasper is that only issue in VR?

[vast jasper]

yes sir. ive checked around and it is a common problem that most shaders only show flat surfaces. but there is a way to get it to work. but i dont know how to implement the code into a shader. im not that shader savvy.

[vast jasper]

https://forum.unity.com/threads/normal-map-behavior-in-vr.913721/

[wraith shale]

uh, so you don't have regular normal maps working on VR?

that's not... normal

[vast jasper]

lol

[wraith shale]

but to serious, that's not related to that thread's issue. regular normal mapping should work out of the box VR or not

[vast jasper]

well it doesnt sadly. its just plain old flat. even if i crank up the normals to max in the editor. it wont show anything in the VR headset

[wraith shale]

normal maps don't put in height, they just affect how light reflects from the material. cube with normal map will look like cube regardless how much normal map intensity you apply for it

it's just more obvious in VR when you see things in 3D

[vast jasper]

but i dont get any reaction to lighting is VR. just in the editor when i pan around. absolutly nothing in VR.

not even a flicker of hope. just a plain flat image.

[wraith shale]

also I'd reconsider HDRP for VR if possible, it's quite heavy for VR purposes 🙂

[vast jasper]

my hardware can handle it 🙂 i just recently got 4000FPS from 400 draw calls and 1.3m triss. and 0.25ms. in built and run dev mode

im optimizing everything so im all set to handle HDRP. i just want it to do what i want. 🙂

but lets not get side tracked now 🙂 normal maps working on HDRP VR. what could be the culprit?

im generating lightmaps before every run. im using HDRP/lit.

the editor windows show a heightened surface as it should, but in the vr it isnt showing.

[wraith shale]

@vast jasper which HDRP and Unity version?

also have you run HDRP + VR on HDRP wizard so it's all green?

[vast jasper]

HDRP 10.4.0, Unity 2020.3.2f1

[vast jasper]

yes boss. all green

ill see if i can get another effect with using heightmap instead. just need to export some heightmaps from substance painter.

[wraith shale]

you dont need heightmap to display normals..

you only need it if you want to use POM, PM, vertex displacement or want to do height based texture blending

[vast jasper]

oh well. will have to restart to try it out. unity crashed on me

[wraith shale]

for what's it's worth, normal maps work just fine for me on HDRP 10.4 and 2020.3 in VR with Oculus runtime

just tested there's no weird regression/bug

[vast jasper]

there might have been something wierd going on in substance painter. might not have given me the right normal maps. ill find out after this light generating.