🥽┃virtual-reality

[tiny niche]

mb is maya's format

[red roost]

? Sorry I don’t know what that is

What format should it be

[tiny niche]

maya is a 3d modeling program and the format you want is fbx

[red roost]

Ahhh ok thanks, do you know where I can find hand models that are fbx?

[tiny niche]

i do, but they wouldn't be of any use to you until you learn to use a 3d modeling program

[red roost]

How so?

[tiny niche]

because you can't just drop them in a scene and expect them to work. You gotta make the rig and poses conform to what unity expects and export the result

[red roost]

I’ve already got the rig, I’m using a tutorial and in it he uses cubes so if I do it with the hands will it not work the same?

[severe saffron]

hey I know you asked this earlier and while the response is; yes there is a hit; quest 2 actually gets MSAA for "nearly free". I find even 2x is a huge visual enhancement and doesn't touch my fps (my game hits 120hz anyway :D)

[young scaffold]

hey

when i installed XR plug in management, it didn't give me the "OpenXR" or android options

does anyone know why?

[lofty tangle]

You have to install the android module for unity when installing unity

[lofty tangle]

You can do it in unity hub

[fleet rampart]

well i cant play my game in vr now, it only crashes when i try to play in vr

so annoying

[alpine ledge]

If i want to make it so that "air" is climable would i just make something like a regular ladder climbing skript but make it work no matter where you grab?

[north path]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/index.html

Check the proper folder@storm ether

[lofty tangle]

I have that. Cause I’m not finished with my interaction scrip but already tested climbing with my movement script. I’m just doing climbing if my hand grip buttons are down.

[storm ether]

I am trying to get the game object(s) currently holding a multiple grab object, I am using firstInteractorSelecting right now, but I want to use interactablesSelected. However, it seems that XRGrabInteractable doesn't inherit it
I can get the number of objects grabbing an object, but getting the names of them is what I'm having trouble with

[dusty burrow]

I'm using Oculus Integration SDK and hand tracking on the Quest 2.
When the hands of OculusInteractionSampleRig lose tracking they just float in the last tracked position.

And they just stay there.

They update their position when tracking is available again.

How to hide them when tracking isn't available?

[red roost]

Hey guys, so I am making a bowling game in vr, I have added the hands, the ball, floor, camera rig etc. I just tried running it on the vr headset and it just opens up a screen as if it was a video with the project name at the bottom, anyone had this issue/know how to fix it

[onyx blaze]

send a video so we can help

[red roost]

I have managed to solve the issue, I had to open build setting and selected an active scene, for some reason the sampleScene wasnt automatically selected

[red roost]

I was trying to make it so that I could move with my controller, in the script i did 'using OVR' and i got an error, when i searched the error it said it either needed to update xr intergration and xr toolkit but i was already of the newest so I went down to the recomended version, Now i get all of these errors

[dense tinsel]

is there a built-in way in XR Interaction Toolkit to grab object with trigger, not with grip?

[lofty tangle]

Yes. Switch the grab action to the index trigger input.

[tawny lantern]

hello, just wondering how I can make a movement system kinda like echo vr for oculus?

version I use is 2021.3.20f1

Working on a basketball in Zero gravity type thing

[lofty tangle]

When interacting/grabbing a solid object, use the -velocity of your controller to move the player. When you let go/stop interacting save that velocity value and use that to continue moving the player in that direction.

[lusty cargo]

Hello, I am looking to change the colour of an object. The idea is that I have stones that are falling in a chimney and the more they fall the more they change colour, at the beginning they are black, then as they go down they gradually turn yellow. Does anyone have any idea how to achieve this?
Thanks in advance 🙂

I tried with color over lifetime but it changes anything

[north path]

How are you doing this?
Changing an object can be done with using Color.Lerp on the material.
If you use particles you can use color over lifetime you gotta make sure the fall is exactly the lifespan of the particle.

[lusty cargo]

Oh I just went to color lep, I had never heard of this, it's amazing I'm going to try this method. thx ^^

I will keep you informed

However, I have an animation on the stone so I would like the LERP colour to be activated only after several seconds.

is this possible?

[lusty cargo]

and will the color length keep the texture and just turn it yellow or will it just turn the object yellow?

[north path]

with c# you can make it do whatever ypu want if it's a simple object

[north path]

Change the color on a material with a texture and see how it looks. It blends them together

Not a VR question btw, for next time

[lusty cargo]

ok thx ^^ i can delete if you want

[north path]

It's fine, just double check the if the channel is relevant for the specific issue next time

[tall fox]

I’ve just a had a quick search on YT and nothing came up, I haven’t checked the unity learn library yet: anyone know where to start looking for tutorials on how to do movement based on grabbing as if you were in 0g instead of joystick movement?

[near crest]

how can I have my VR game be able to launch in regular desktop mode? (XR interaction toolkit)
So that the game can be played without a VR headset.

[tall fox]

actually, this answer is basically the same as what I need but minus the continued velocity part (easy to do), but can you expand on the "use the -velocity of your controller to move the player", like what does the rough code for that look like?

[lofty tangle]

It’s pretty much any vr climbing tutorial code. You just move the player in the opposite direction of the controllers velocity. You can get it directly from the controller. Or calculate it yourself from the difference of the controllers last position and its current position.
But you’ll want to do it relatively to the vr rigs rotation.
moveDirection = vrRig.rotation * -controllerVelocity;

[tall fox]

ah oki, hadn't considered checking for climbing tutorials... for my climbing based game

[alpine ledge]

Errors:

Script updater for Library\Bee\artifacts\1900b0aE.dag\Assembly-CSharp.dll failed to produce updates.txt file
and
Assets\Scripts\PlayerMovement.cs(24,48): error CS0234: The type or namespace name 'Interaction' does not exist in the namespace 'Unity.XR' (are you missing an assembly reference?)

I cannot find a solution to this

[lofty tangle]

line 24 not line 4 😉

[red roost]

I have an xr controller but when I load the game onto the vr headset i cant see my hands or grab the ball, i did this in another file yesterday and had no issues, can anyone spot something wrong

Update: I changed the hand fbx's to a cube, Its really high up relative to the controller though. I can also see the shadow of my original hand fbx but not the hand itself

[tender pawn]

how to make hand pyhsics to object in unity? i have cube and have rigidbody, box collider, xr grab interactable, i can grab, but i can't touch di cube to make move. i using xr origin and in hand model i make rigidbody, box collider. but still i can't touch that cube, what wrong?

[tiny niche]

you're sking for much more complete physics interaction, which is a lot harder to do

[tender pawn]

I just curious why i can't move object wih touching my hand. I already have box collider and rigidbody, but it didn't work for the object, but if i grab the object and them touching with another object, that another object can move

[tiny niche]

that's because physics isn't something you just turn on or off. You need to design the physics setup for achieving the desired outcome and in this case the hands where not set up to directly interact or respond to the world around them

the cubes on the other hand are

[tender pawn]

Do you have some example or tutorial about physics hand? I already try valem tutorial but that make my character jump and fly 🤔

[lofty tangle]

Then you messed up somewhere when following the tutorial.

[north path]

Yep, probably not ignoring collision between the body and hands

[turbid orbit]

hey gpt write a unity button that switches between two objects when the button is pressed

clearly I didn't do that right

Never mind, wrong server 😛

[crisp rock]

Weighing possible best solutions for custom physics hands, at the moment im just using a script to drive velocity to the motion controller, does anyone have an input on joint usage for this? Configurable Joint is looking like a good solution?

[red roost]

Anyone able to help pls? #🥽┃virtual-reality message

[south remnant]

Hello. I'm a newbie here. Just had a few questions regarding an use-case I'm trying to incorporate in my project.

[near crest]

using xr interaction toolkit, how can I change which input to grab stuff with? I want to use the trigger to grab objects instead of the grips

[tiny niche]

you rebind the grip input action

[red roost]

Do you think you know what my issue could be? #🥽┃virtual-reality message

[tiny niche]

which is named something weird, like select or activate

[tiny niche]

likely wrong origin or object

[red roost]

how so?

[near crest]

ah alright, though that there might have been a nicer way to do it, thanks.

[tiny niche]

depends on what you're trying to do. when replacing the grip controls, this is the way to go

[tiny niche]

the hand you tried was way off center

[red roost]

Yes but I didnt change anything that would take it way off center

[tiny niche]

ofc. you did, since its off center. first step to problem solving is to not blame issues on magic

then you can start looking for the cause by checking everything, prioritizing likely causes and working your way down the list

[red roost]

I have looked at all of the positions and then looked at all of the added components with no success, only thing i can think of is the cube may be too close to the players starting position and might be hiding it, so ive just moved the cube and we'll see if it fixes the issue

it did not work, its so strange though because I can see the shadows on the floor

[tiny niche]

you should start using git, so you can check the files for differences. Only checking known possibilities is unlikely to get you to the source of the problem

[tender pawn]

i make physics vr, why my body jump evertime i play the project? how to fix that? thanks

[lofty tangle]

The collider looks like it’s moving and extending as it goes from its default size/position to the code you use for getting it to match the players height and position. But it pushes against the floor making you jump

[quiet nymph]

Hello guys, I have a very simple scene and trying to add particle system on it my Quest Pro have performance issue.
There are is some way to optimize URP Vfx for standalone VR?

Some tips

It looks there aren't solutions

[north path]

The biggest tip is learn how to profile and how to research where the issue is.
With new projects maybe you didnt remove SSAO

Maybe one of these tips also might help:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjnZTAR0BuTDNeDPy44G4bUpYRHGzy_xh

[compact gazelle]

Hi guys i am creating a VR game for oculus and i would install it inside an headset of a friend,how can i share my game to him?

[tender pawn]

how to fix it??

[tiny niche]

replace the bad code with good code

[tender pawn]

i don't have any idea where the bad code? do you know where the bad one?

[tiny niche]

no and even if i did, figuring out what to replace it with is your problem, not ours

[tender pawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk0EBIe6ZN8&t=335s

[tender pawn]

in 5:21 when valem use box collider but that collider in center of hand model, i try add box collider but why my box collider in the ground/floor? when he make empy game object in physics rig, the position in center of his hand model, when i make, the position in ground/floor. maybe that the problem?

[lofty tangle]

You’ll figure it out, or you won’t. Not really any other options is there. First find out why it’s doing what it’s doing and then figure out what to do to fix it. Only you can, it’s your code.

[tiny niche]

maybe, have you tried fixing that part?

[tender pawn]

if i move that collider to hand, that make my body jump higher

[tiny niche]

and what does that tell you?

[tender pawn]

what do you mean?

sorry if my english is bad, because english not my first language

[tiny niche]

you have new behavior after moving the position, which if you understand how the physics engine behaves should give you a hint about what the real problem is

[tender pawn]

maybe because sphere collider for head in floor when i play, and then move to my head?

[tender pawn]

why that capsule collider in center hand model?

when i try, my collider in ground/floor

i follow the same method

[tender pawn]

how to move that pivot to center of hand model?

[tiny niche]

you use a 3d modeling package for that, like blender or maya

[lofty tangle]

Or in unity you put it in an empty game object and offset it as a child.

[tender pawn]

i figure out, what i need is just hand physics, not body physics, so i just change my hand model with custom oculus hand physics with collider and it works perfectly

[tiny niche]

that doesn't change the pivot though and may not be good enough for some scenarios

[lofty tangle]

It does though, indirectly. You just have to move/rotate or whatever the parent instead of the child(original object)

But yeah it’s more messy than having the actual objects pivot set properly cause you’ll have everything inside empty gameobjects

[tender pawn]

i try this before but still not works, because i still have to make collider inside xr origin and the box collider using pivot on the ground.

[tender pawn]

i think why that pivot in there because in new version xr origin include laser, in new version when we add xr origin, there a straigh laser in ground because new xr origin have xr ray interactor,

[red roost]

Hey guys, So i have a script https://pastebin.com/v54uYh26 which controls my game, its basically you have to put 4 balls on 4 platforms with the same colours, once they're all in place it should trigger the you win message, i have a canvas and text, i have treid debugging but with no success, if anyone could help it'd be greatly appreciated

[onyx blaze]

I've been experiencing a bug that cuts my fps in half when building for android.

Background info: When running the game in the editor, it runs at 72 fps, but experiences frequent frame drops at random intervals. When building and playing on android, it runs at 36 fps with little to no fps changes.

I'm using URP, the oculus integration, my unity version is 2022.1.16f1, I've optimized my game with baked lighting, static batching, and set all graphics to the lowest levels, even turned off anti aliasing, and I am using Photon Pun 2 for multiplayer networking.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[north path]

1. Update unity. 2022 had performance issues, especially older versions!
2. Check what takes up performance with the profiler and ovr metrics
   3 it's not a bug, it's vsync and android being slower than a pc

[tiny niche]

you can't compare performance between the editor and android builds, they're running on completely different systems

[onyx blaze]

I’ve heard something about vsync on some forums. Is there anything specific I need to do with Vsync?

[onyx blaze]

Also, what unity editor version would you recommend? Thanks!

[north path]

@onyx blaze
Vsync is always on on quest 2, it locks the framerate for smooth fps.
I recommend the latest 2021LTS for standalone VR

But even in 2021 you still might need to optimize more, quest 2 is still a difficult platform for performance

[tiny niche]

i would go 2022.2 or higher

[red roost]

Anyone able to help? #🥽┃virtual-reality message

[lofty tangle]

That doesn’t seem to anything to do with vr, but what’s the issue?

[red roost]

So my code is looking for when the correct colours are on the correct tables, as in the coloiurs should match, when thats done nothing happens, its suppose to activate the "you win" message

[tiny niche]

yea that's not related to vr at all

[red roost]

whats it related to? I'm making a vr app

[tiny niche]

"correct colours are on the correct tables" whatever you're using to make that happen

its not about the app you're making, but about where the problem is

[red roost]

Ahh ok thanks

[red roost]

I have my quest 2 connected to my laptop but i dont get any of my debug lines back

is there something i have to do to enable it?

[north path]

I assume the build is on the quest natively?
If so enable debug build and click autoconnect profiler to it connects to unity when you start up the game.

Otherwise use the logcat package

[red roost]

Where do I enable debug build? On the quest

[north path]

In the build settings in Unity

[red roost]

That’s worked thanks

[red roost]

But it’s still not showing my debug.Log

[north path]

Does it show other logs?
If so, it's simply not called

If not, it's not connected properly

[red roost]

It’s shows a lot of other things just not the debug.log

[honest nacelle]

I found this on reddit

But i cant understand how do i set this up

[red roost]

Go to project settings, under physics

[honest nacelle]

No no, i mean like

[honest nacelle]

I got here

but idk what to do now

based on the reddit solution

do i uncheck where Player - Player

and Interactable - Interactable?

[lofty tangle]

You uncheck collision between the player and the interactables layers.

[honest nacelle]

but that is already unchecked right?

Player - Interactable is unchecked

so... now it shouldnt happen?

[latent cloak]

i need people for a app that i am building, anyone can help me?

the app is on virtual relity

[lofty tangle]

and make sure your player and the interactables layers are set to their respected layer

[honest nacelle]

Thank you

[north path]

@honest nacelle
If the issue is with the hands, make a new layer for the hands, assign them, and ignore collision between hands and body

[onyx blaze]

Has anyone found a way to use Application space warp in unity 2021.3?

[severe saffron]

yeah use nukadelics fork

https://github.com/nukadelic/unity-application-spacewarp

I just slapped this on my quest 2 and ran it native and it works out of the box

I also tried 2022 and ASW ran confirmed on ovrmetrics; but I dont think I had the motionvecs working on that URP version and I am way too dumb to patch it myself

there are instructions online but the docs are seriously hard to find and not intuitive

template is probably the best way to get started

its got shadergraph and everything cookin

with a nice demo scene

[small heart]

how do I fix this issue i get when trying to download the apk? CommandInvokationFailure: Gradle build failed.
C:\Program Files\Unity\Hub\Editor\2022.2.17f1\Editor\Data\PlaybackEngines\AndroidPlayer\OpenJDK\bin\java.exe -classpath "C:\Program Files\Unity\Hub\Editor\2022.2.17f1\Editor\Data\PlaybackEngines\AndroidPlayer\Tools\gradle\lib\gradle-launcher-7.2.jar" org.gradle.launcher.GradleMain "-Dorg.gradle.jvmargs=-Xmx4096m" "assembleRelease"

[onyx blaze]

Thanks mate!

[north path]

The Oculus AppSW repo has a new 2022.2 branch!

[severe saffron]

exciting

[severe saffron]

now how do i get that into a clean project

🙃

[severe saffron]

I see a manifest is likely enough?

[north path]

Follow the steps on the meta unity appSW page. Add it to manifest, enable in oculus plugin, enable in script

[severe saffron]

I had already enabled it in a 2022 test project but I dont have the shaders from the custom URP yet. Will add the entries to the manifest; and hopefully everything should work form there thanks

[rocky frigate]

Hi , I am trying to connect an Oculus Quest 2 to Unity, following the official guide by meta and could use some help.
(https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/unity-gs-overview/#core-documentation)
I installed the meta quest app, granted it permissions to find and interact with other devices via bluetooth, locate the detailed location of my android device and created a meta account.
Yet, I am unable to connect to my android device.
I usually type in the connection code of my quest and the app tries to connect but nothing happens.
I get no errors or something like this.
This is the first time I am working with the Quest, so any advice is appreciated

[pine bison]

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[ornate quest]

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[limpid canopy]

I'm using Meta Avatar SDK, I have no idea how to set the Joints in my avatar, there's no field for "Bones/Joints/Skeleton" in the OvrAvatarEntity class, does anyone here know how to solve it?

[random lake]

currently trying to make a toggle for a pair of shoes that are meshed together, what part of the armature would I attach the shoes too? since they are a pair. i considered separating them in blender but im unsure if i could set the toggle so both shoes appear at the same time since they would be seperated.

[random lake]

i personally dont know much about coding but majority of what youre asking about can be done in blender, creating your own armature and basically "connecting" the armature and model together, from there you should be able to export said armature and model so that when you are back in unity you should be able to mess around with it

[tiny niche]

avatar sdk is for meta avatars, so you should've loaded a skeleton already, if you set it up correctly

[storm ether]

I wish Unity had a WebXR export feature 😭

[dusty burrow]

In Oculus Integration and it's hand tracking how can I make the hands invisible when they are not being tracked correctly?

Right now they just float in space if they lose tracking

I'm using OculusInteractionSampleRig

[lofty tangle]

Haven’t used it but try checking the docs for a variable that says if they hands are being tracked or not then set the visibility equal to that

[neon raven]

hey guys does anyone know how to send a haptic impulse via a script when selecting an object through a poke interactor using the XR interaction toolkit?

i have a script that works when you use a direct interactor but the poking just simply wont work 😅 unfortunately

ok im just gonna make it get the tag of the poke interactor and then send it to the respective base interactor

[north path]

Make a request on the roadmap

[north path]

I think you can get the tracked accuracy or something. Then disable the mesh renderer when it drops below a value.

Or use the tracked events

[storm ether]

I did, twice 😭

[north path]

Then all you can do is wait and get others to explain their usecases as well.
Maybe ask in on the graphics blitz day next week

@storm ether

[storm ether]

Will do!

[fiery horizon]

I just got unity no clue what this means

[rough plaza]

I have a common problem, the camera rotates at the XR rig, but if the player steps to the side the camera rotates around the XRRig

How do I fix this?

I still want the player's IRL movement to translate into the game, but I can't have an offset between the camera and XRRig.

[north path]

Rotate around the maincam when you rotate the player

[rough plaza]

That worked for a bit, but now it's not, plus the XRRig has a capsule collider and collisions wouldn't work properly with an offset.

[north path]

Then make it so the camera has a collider

[lofty tangle]

Yes it would. Just set the capsules center to the x and z of the camera. And the y as half the height.

[rough plaza]

That doesn't do anything because it's following the headset

[obtuse imp]

help

ok im having an issue where if i play in the editor it works but when i buit to my quest 2 i does not do the same thing the editor did

[north path]

Maybe follow some guides

[north path]

Amd what does it do?...

[obtuse imp]

ok so it turnss off the player script anmd make the rigdbody Kinematic it works on the editor but not quest 2

[tender pawn]

why my xr origin disappear when i play?

[tiny niche]

you must have some custom code doing that

[north path]

Debug log it to see if the same code runs with the same values

Via logcat or debug build

[obtuse imp]

Well it’s just a script it’s other scripts

[north path]

Then find out which ones and debug them. We can't really help much unless you know where it goes wrong

[obtuse imp]

What happing is certain stuff works on my pc and when I build it it does not work on my quest

[tiny niche]

that's normal, the quest is an android device

[obtuse imp]

Oh

[tender pawn]

found it, in my array script. that

DontDestroyOnLoad(gameObject);

[tiny niche]

yea you don't want to do stuff like that

[severe saffron]

question! I can see ASW is finally working.... because of all the ASW artifacts when I rotate the camera

this is normal/suspected behavior right?

[mighty ice]

Remove capsule collider and add "character controller" and "Character controller driver" to the XR origin component, then drag XR origin object into the character controller's locomotion Provider.

[north path]

No, it should not be very noticable.
Which packages did you change?

[severe saffron]

I just imported an ASW template

ASW isnt noticeable if I stand still, but artificial locomotion + spinning the camera shows so many artifacts Im not sure my game is a fit for the use-case

I mean they show some small artifacts when waggling the controller on the sample page here: https://github.com/oculus-samples/Unity-AppSpaceWarp

I just dont think those gifs show how bad it is in VR

its nauseating D:

here's the best capture I could get of the jankyness

I mean the docs say it doesnt handle fast motion.....

I guess my game is a worst case scenario

[errant whale]

Hi folks

I have an issue, ive been reported by several users that the Quest Pro controllers dont track, is there some special setting one has to do in order to make quesr pro controllers track?

I use OpenXR

[north path]

@severe saffron It shouldn't be this bad, ive used it a decent bit and did not notice it this much.
Try downloading the project as a whole and run that without modifications

Oh wait Ive never seen this repo

https://github.com/nukadelic/unity-application-spacewarp
Try this instead @severe saffron

[severe saffron]

haha thats the one Im using

[north path]

Update OpenXR and add the pro controller profile

[errant whale]

Well im.on latest vestion and checked the pro controllers too

[north path]

Maybe try without and let the headset handle everything?
Maybe share the openxr settings?

[north path]

Did you try with just the project and not any changes?
And can you confirm custom packages in the package manager?

[severe saffron]

yes the custom packages are there and loaded, and even in the original test scene, I see the same result from waggling the rays

even in the APK uploaded to nukadelics repo, you can see it. Its just that there is no artificial movement in the template

as soon as the camera starts moving around these motion vectors lose their freakin minds. Almost better to disable ASW when walking

[tiny niche]

you may be able to feed it more correct motion vectors by modifying the renderer

[severe saffron]

might exclude the hands from it because they're the most noticable

[north path]

Definitely a solution. Meta themselves recommends to only enable in heavy scenes where FFR is not enough.

For the line, maybe it does not give motion vectors well, try changing the material, or check the known issues fix: https://developer.oculus.com/downloads/package/unity-integration/

[severe saffron]

I also hear you can disable and enable ASW at will/ on a per frame basis

so yeah.... seems like I might go hybrid

[north path]

Yes, it's pretty handy

[severe saffron]

boy right at the top of the known issues; I will keep investigating

[severe saffron]

btw just to confirm....

excluding the rays is probably the ticket, I wasn't really thinking about "static vs not"

[honest nacelle]

I did literally nothing and everything is streched when i use the vr but on scene mode its everything fine, the trees on my terrain keep flying for the past 10 minutes

any idea? im using XR

[errant whale]

Not sure but turns out to be a bug

Ill share a ss with the settings tomorrow, not near the pc right now

[north path]

Ah fair enough, that's logical yeah. Thanks!

[north path]

Unity version (already updated?)? Render pipeline? Which xr device? In editor or in build? Already deleted the library folder?

[north path]

If possible make a beta build for users without the pro profile and see if that works (that's how it worked previously).
If that fixes it please make a bug report

[errant whale]

Yup thats what im going to do next, ill pull the reverse card lol and build without the pro profile

[honest nacelle]

how can i check that? and also, should be that since it was working not long time ago

[north path]

Check what?... I asked multiple questions.
And feel free to check for both the broken and working version?

[hardy hatch]

So I’m using a quest 2 for testing and I can’t seem to get Unity to output to the headset. I’ve got all of the stuff set up (developer mode, openXR, etc)

[mighty ice]

Hello, I'm using XR Rig with openXR on my quest 2. When i add ray interactors for left and right hand to my Camera offset they only appear in my left lens of the headset but not in the right. Is there any solution for this?

[north path]

Via link or an android build?

[main quarry]

i'm reading about the unity audio SDK by oculus

but can't find it, what is the plugin?

[errant whale]

hold up

actually i dont have the pro controllers in the list

because there is no such option?

https://gyazo.com/e515c4f0a4e1ed4507cd2b1cb8778299

🤔

[north path]

What's your openxr version @errant whale

[errant whale]

openxr plugin is at 1.6.0 (last)

and oculus xr plugin at 3.2.3

(last)

xr interaction toolkit is at pre release (2.3.0-pre.1)

https://gyazo.com/825df80482014458c29110fa569b0bd3

[north path]

Try OpenXR 1.7

Change it in the packages manifest file

[errant whale]

hmm

oh i see

why doesnt it show as pre release tho

i thought this is the last

because im in 2021.3?

yup

now it shows

but now what should i do

not add it because of that bug?

and expect it to work

?

[north path]

Only way to know it to try it tbh

[errant whale]

mh

well

[main quarry]

i have 2021.3.12 and doesn't see it as pre...

[errant whale]

someone with a quest pro can help me test please?

[errant whale]

modify it in manifest

https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/android-install-location-changes-when-exporting-project

this looks fixed

in case you were in 2021.3 because of this

it might be safe to update now

[north path]

It's not verified yet for LTS, but it's noy prerelease anymore. Many packages have this

But if they're out of pre release they're usually stable

[errant whale]

it doesnt show most likely because 2021.3

[main quarry]

don't worry, i haven't this problems now. i'm trying to add spatialized audio

[north path]

Just gotta take some updates for it to be added

[errant whale]

dont bother lol, it eats up the cpu too much

make yourself some simple sound occlusion system where u modify the pitch of the audio if some wall is between the listener and the audio source

sending raycasts between them at all times

its not same sick result but u remain with the performance

[main quarry]

i read an article about the new (tons of months ago) audio sdk

[errant whale]

im curious how it goes

[main quarry]

https://developer.oculus.com/blog/build-immersive-audio-experiences-meta-quest-sdk/

[errant whale]

let me know if its performant

but its probably not

last time i checked both steam audio and oculus audio eat up the cpu

especially when you add occlusion

which is mostly the point when using them

[compact gazelle]

Hi guys,i have a very strange problem,i don't know why when i press a button on my VR controller it calls a function

At the start i add a listener to a button and so when i click the button the function "rigiochiamo" is called

The function is just called by that line of code,the problem is that when i click the primary button on my VR controller that function is called too

Can somebody help me,this is a really strange problem

I know for sure that when i click the button on my VR controller this function is called cause i debugged

Like you can see i am not calling this function when i click

[errant whale]

@north path thanks mate, turns out it worked just fine in 1.7.0 version

[north path]

Awesome!
With or without adding the pro controller profile

[errant whale]

With the pro controller profile added

The bug might be in earlier versions

[hardy hatch]

Either

[compact gazelle]

SOmebody?

[north path]

Did you check enable xr on startup and select a plugin to run?

[hardy hatch]

Yeah

OpenXR

I’ve also sort of got it working with Mock HMD

[north path]

Then something is missing in the setup. What guide did you follow?
And do you only have a VR player without any other cameras in the scene?

[hardy hatch]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpEoiloH-4eP-OKItF8XNJ8y8e1asOJud

I’ve got the XR Rig and it shows when I hit play, but it just isn’t showing it in my headset

[north path]

What does it show instead?

And do other PCVR games work?

[hardy hatch]

I can’t do Link because my puter is a Mac, it lets me do USB Debugging but it won’t show the game on the headset

[limpid canopy]

What could it be? The object only renders in the left eye, it was working fine, but I think I messed up at some point 😅

[tiny niche]

install windows on it and it might let you do link

[limpid canopy]

Fixed it by setting "multipass" for android and pc

[errant whale]

yeah well, the bug is there, i just misunderstood it lol. The guy said if pro controllers are in the list then the touch controllers wont work, which is true unfortunately

[north path]

Hmmm that's weird. If it's reproducable file a bug report

[atomic badge]

When testing with the Quest 2 over the link cable.

Upon first play, many of the custom shaders/textures appear Bright blue or Bright Pink. After a few seconds it all loads in and everything appears properly, but this is quite a jarring thing to witness.

Is there any way to ensure that all of my textures, objects, materials, shaders are loaded before the game actually begins? I guess I am asking how to implement a loading screen

how to even track wether all resources are loaded or not

[mild igloo]

Does anyone have any assets they would suggest for VR tunneling. I can't get tunneling pro to work at all.

[tiny niche]

tunneling?

[autumn pewter]

Does anyone has the assets for ftiness/ exercises?

[tiny niche]

💪 sure do

[autumn pewter]

how can I get it?

[tiny niche]

@autumn pewter but on a more serious note, check the asset store

[atomic badge]

Ok another wierd issue

Why is my physics behaving differently when testing in the scene view vs in VR

[north path]

Because scene view does not show gameplay.
If you mean game view, do you test VR in builds, or also in editor?

[tiny niche]

it doesn't. but running on windows vs. android might

[mild igloo]

Vignette effect

[north path]

Maybe try to figure out why tunneling pro doesn't work

[mild igloo]

I did. The version in the asset store is outdated but there is a fork in Git that has been updated. The base version still doesn't work but using the mobile componenet works fine.

[light raft]

I am working on a VR game, and I have a reticle set for when you're hovering over UI. However, sometimes the reticle disappears behind the UI, and I have no idea why. All UI is set to Z = 0, buttons and toggles are interactable, and Raycast Target is enabled. Does anyone know what the issue could be?

[tiny niche]

unrelated to vr, but probably wrong depth sorting, since ui elements normally don't write to the depth buffer

[light raft]

How can I fix this? The canvases aren't in different sorting layers or whatever

[tiny niche]

do that then

[light raft]

I have a canvas for the menu, and a canvas for the tutorial. When you're watching a 360 video, and the video has finished, you're asked what you thought of the situation. This is a different canvas. This is for a VR-training about inappropriate behaviour. The other canvas gameobjects are disabled when one is used. It seems to be a bit random as well, where the reticle disappears behind the UI

[light raft]

It's not the most clear, but you can see one reticle is on top, and the other is behind the UI

[errant whale]

Guys

https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/quest-openxr-input-does-not-work-when-meta-quest-pro-interaction-profile-is-selected

Please vote this

[rough plaza]

How do I correctly make a VR 3D platformer?

Specifically the player controller.

I tried a tutorial with the "Character Controller" but that doesn't support jumping so I can't use it.

[tiny niche]

you use a character controller most of the time and adapt your control over it to support your mechanics

[rough plaza]

So I just code an entire physics engine based on the character controller?

[tiny niche]

no, the character controller is your interface towards the physics engine, but you code the behavior for it yourself

[rough plaza]

You can't set the Y velocity of the character controller.

[tiny niche]

the character controller is basically a way to tell a capsule to go from A to B without breaking everything physics-based around it

[rough plaza]

#1109891836245463060 message

[tiny niche]

character controller doesn't do momentum, that's up to you

[rough plaza]

So yeah, I'd need to code an entire physics engine based on it.

[tiny niche]

a physics engine is a whole lot more than just simulating a single body in isolation

but yes, you will have to code the way the character controller is supposed to behave. That's the whole point of it

[rough plaza]

So I can't use the Character Controller.

[tiny niche]

if you want to replicate mario mechanics, a character controller is what you need

[rough plaza]

But it's not physics based?

[tiny niche]

and neither is mario

[rough plaza]

what am i supposed to do then

[north path]

Google tutorials etc
This is not that complex and the character controller (using the character controller, rigidbody, or manual code) has a ton of ways to set up

[rough plaza]

I already have a way to control the character controller

the only thing i dont have is a way to jump

Seriously I don't want to use the Character Controller component I just want to make a physics based 3D platformer

[tiny niche]

sometimes you just have to build the thing you need, as opposed to cobbling together what the engine provides out of the box

[rough plaza]

I don't even know how to code in C# I just use VS, I can't code an entire physics engine

[tiny niche]

well that can be fixed. learn c# or hire a programmer

[rough plaza]

Fine, I guess I'll just go with the crappy physics I already have.

[lofty tangle]

Honestly. If you aren’t down with learning to program in c# unity might not be right for you. You could try unreal engine as it has good built in visual scripting called blueprints.

[rough plaza]

VS is fine in Unity, it may be slightly limited but it definitely works.

[honest nacelle]

how to disable XR Device Simulator?

[ornate quest]

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[tiny niche]

its supposed to do that on its own, but i've had to remove it manually in many scenarios

[compact gazelle]

Hello,i am having a problem with the interaction with buttons on my VR game

I am using the ToggleRay script from the XRToolkit and the problem is this one: Let's say i have to click a button,i press the primary button on my controller and it activate the ray,then i press the trigger button to click the button

the problem is that after having pressed the trigger button when i press again the primary button of my controller the button is clicked again and it must not happen

This one is the script i am using

And this is what i call when i press the primary button

https://youtu.be/x-fJFfVv670 this is a video of the error

It is like it stores the button also if i have not the ray that aim to the button and i am not pressing the trigger button but the primary button

Can somebody help me?

[tiny niche]

sounds like the click is working as intended

[compact gazelle]

No it should not work like that,did you see the video?

The button is clicked if i press the primary button and i am not with the ray in the "button zone"

[tiny niche]

no and what i'm saying is it sounds like it works the way click events are supposed to work, what you want to happen is unclear though

[compact gazelle]

No it is not normal a similar beaviour,the button should just work if i am with the ray on the button and press the trigger button

[tiny niche]

the ray is virtual, your event is bound to the physical button

[compact gazelle]

instead it is also clicked if i am not with the ray on the button and i press the primary button (not the trigger button)

[compact gazelle]

Wait did you see the video of the error?,my problem is that after that i click correctly the button after that if i have not the raycast on the button and i click the primary button (and not the trigger button) the button is activated and it MUST NOT doing that

It is like when i press the trigger button and the ray is on the button the clicking action is stored and when i press the primary button the action is activated

[compact gazelle]

The sequence is this one:
-I press the primary button on my VR controller and it activates the ray
-I point the ray on the UI button and than i press the trigger button -> the UI button is clicked and works like it has to do
-When i remove the ray from the UI button and i press the primary button it activates the UI button and it MUST NOT happen (this is my problem)

Is now clear?

Trigger button

Primary button

[tiny niche]

if you're saying it only fails after aiming the ray at the target, then you've got something wrong in your setup. But from your description it sounds like you've hooked the target up directly to the controller and not the ray interaction system

[compact gazelle]

No it is not "failing",the UI button is pressed when it should not

[tiny niche]

and given the description its triggering on the button press, not the button click. a click is when you release the button you've just pressed

[compact gazelle]

yes it is not important,my problem is that it should not do that

[tiny niche]

its failing if its not the intended behavior

failing, aka. entering a failure state

[compact gazelle]

Ok,do you have some ideas to solve the problem?

if for example i remove the ray away from the UI button and i click the trigger button this error goes away

but restarts if i press again the UI button with the trigger button

[compact gazelle]

I think it is a deeper error cause i tryed to remove all the Button Press scripts and the error persist,i removed all the components to the controllers and the error persist,i think it is something with the input manager sistem

[compact gazelle]

Problem solved

[pine bison]

What was the solution? It sounds to me like pressing A while having a UI button focused clicks it

[compact gazelle]

It was the event system

You have to unclick the joistick input

[pine bison]

Interesting, ok

[mossy flower]

👀

[proven siren]

So I have a model with a simple box collider, a rigidbody, and an XR Grab Interactable component. For some reason when I pick up the model in game, no matter which direction I am trying to go I always go backwards, and at a way higher speed than I set. Does anyone know what could be causing this? Here is a video of me picking up the object and then spinning my joystick to move around: https://streamable.com/qlh2rl

[blissful lake]

I have a question in regards to the XR plug-in management, in the end, what is the difference between the Oculus implementation of OpenXR provider and the actual Oculus provider

Because I tested both and the first implementation failed to get the controllers position and rotation, am I losing something if I don't use it?

[glacial mesa]

I wanted to move the left and right eyes independently, or at least move one eye while keeping the other stationary. In legacy VR, I believe you could set one camera to the left eye and one to the right eye, but that option's gone afaik. Is there still a way to do this?

[glacial mesa]

nvm, looking back in the chat, it seems URP does not support individual eyes, but built-in RP does.

[severe saffron]

sounds about right

Ive been able to offset things based on which eye is active via shader, but that doesnt do anything with camera frustum

[icy quarry]

hey has anyone here worked with quest integration sdk from meta

[icy quarry]

the issue i am facing is with quest 2, in Ovr Manager I've disabled Position tracking but, If i walk around in Physical space the offset is still added on my tracked hands/controllers. Does anyone know if there is a workaround or anything i can do about this.

by walk around i dont necessarily mean walk but even just move a bit or for example adjust my chair back and forth.

i tried overriding and even changing the Right and left hand anchors to vec3.zero in ovrmanager but nothing seems to work

[pine bison]

I see XR is mentioned here but has the performance degradations on Quest in 2022 been addressed? Do you know @north path?
https://blog.unity.com/engine-platform/unity-2022-lts-is-coming-in-june

[north path]

All open big issues are in progress atm, no fixes yet and did not get answer in the blitz day

[pine bison]

So there's hope still

I'd love to upgrade to 2022

[elder fern]

I'm having an issue where my VR game using the OpenXR runtime freezes during the splash screen on both PCVR and standalone quest. This is the player log I was able to retrieve but I can't seem to find a reason as to why the game freezes during the splash screen

[blissful lake]

My advice is to never use the facebook implementation. The documentation does not follow the code, materials about it are outdated... Well, It's not a fun time

[lofty tangle]

Yeah☝️ that sounds like your issue. Reason you’re getting push back is cause whatever you picked up is colliding with your body forcing you backwards at a high speed.

[proven siren]

Huh weird I'll check it out

[lofty tangle]

Just make sure what ever you are holding and your body are on different physics layers that don’t interact with each other.

[nocturne pawn]

you've got the point. i agree with u/

[quasi osprey]

Hello! I’m a masters student who’s currently developing a serious game in VR for my thesis. I am using an oculus quest 2 and currently using the XR library to develop for it.

Currently I’m running into an issue with respect to voice integration

With a regular 3D game I used the windows library but since im on the quest 2 I can’t because it’s android based

Can someone guide me as to how I can add voice integration?

If I use the oculus SDK will it work with the XR library that I am using for my teleportation and interaction?

If there are paid assets I’m willing to look into them as well

[north path]

@quasi osprey

1. What kind of voice integration? Speech to text? Voice chat multiplayer?
2. You can try the oculus sdk, could definitely work.
3. Maybe use unity gaming services if it's voice chat. I think vivox is the voice chat

[elder fern]

I keep getting this in my crash log for my VR game running the openXR platform for windows builds. This crash causes the game to freeze at the splash screen and prevents the game from loading

[XR] SetOutput Failed.[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Error  ] xrGetSystem: XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE

[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ] ==== Report Reason: Uncaught Exception ====

[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ] ==== OpenXR Init Info ====
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ] Stage 1 Missing Entry Points: (1)
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ]   xrInitializeLoaderKHR

[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] Error: XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ]     Origin: result
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ]     Source: C:\build\output\unity\xr.sdk.openxr\NativePlugin\Source\unity_session.cpp:260
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] ==== Std Exception Thrown ====
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] Function: PreInit_Display_Setup::<lambda_4fbc124a0a834a46f47ad9f63094300a>::operator ()
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] Message: XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ]     Origin: result
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ]     Source: C:\build\output\unity\xr.sdk.openxr\NativePlugin\Source\unity_session.cpp:260
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] ==== Last 20 non-XR_SUCCESS returns ====
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] [FAILURE] xrGetSystem: XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE (1x)

[quasi osprey]

Hi! So far I just want to be able to say one word and have a gameobject disappear (destroyed) in game

[north path]

That's just a multiplayer game. Netcode for gameobjects is good for that

So it's voice recognition then, look for tools for voice to text or something

[quasi osprey]

I saw one that looked good but not sure if it’ll be compatible with a VR headset?

So voice to text can be used to add features like I described (destroying a game object)?

[north path]

Yeah, match a word and if a certain word is said do something.
And almost all vr headsets got mics, so make sure it runs on windows and android and then it should work

[quasi osprey]

Gotcha, thank you!

[tiny niche]

@quasi osprey windows + android pretty much means you'll have to go for a cloud service for that

[quasi osprey]

Aww so there’s no unity asset I can use.

[tiny niche]

there might be on the asset store, but i would expect them to be windows-only or use a cloud service

[quasi osprey]

Gotcha I’ll try to look for something and see if my university can fund it

[quasi osprey]

@tiny niche @north path https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/integration/android-speech-tts-45168

Will this work?

[north path]

Check the description. Unless you buy it for me I don't know compatibility for all assets on the store

[quasi osprey]

I think it will because this is what it says

"An Android Plugin for Unity that will help you access Text Recognizer and Text To Speech features on Android devices with in Unity.

New! Automatic Speech Recognition that works on Android and Oculus Quest, Can work Offline, English, Spanish and Portuguese only"

Forgot to turn off ping sorry!

[tiny niche]

i'd try to look up how its implemented. if it uses google's tech then it might not be available on quest

[hardy root]

so im making a game and this happend

how do i fix this

[storm ether]

Is it even worth it to try to write a interaction framework for VR? Or just use something like this: https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/templates/systems/vr-interaction-framework-161066

[north path]

I have used mutliple and VRIF is the one I'm sticking with.
UltimateXR is a free open source one

[tiny niche]

there's bound to be good enough generic interaction frameworks, but if you need something specific for your game then its not a huge piece of software to create

[storm ether]

Cool, I just wanted some natural B&S-esque physics and interactions in the game, and I can already tell from the failures in my framework it'd be difficult lol

[lapis copper]

Hey, I want to use Unity Editor Playmode on an Oculus Quest 1 to test my project. It doesn't work and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Do you have any idea what the reason is or what I could have forgotten?

I have all that:

• Oculus Desktop App
• Oculus is connected via cable to laptop (connection is shown in Oculus App).
• Runtime features for developers are enabled in Oculus Desktop App
• Quest link on the Qculus can be launched
• In Unity Editor Oculus is checked under XR Plug-in Management
  But when I launch Playmode in Unity Editor, it does not transfer to the Oculus.

[tiny niche]

did you enable unknown sources in the desktop app?

try run a steam game first, then you'll know everything is set up correctly

[lapis copper]

I did not know about "Play Mode OpenXR Runtime" setting that had to be set on Oculus. That was my mistake. After that it worked

[tiny niche]

if your machine is configured correctly, you don't need it

[atomic badge]

When Playtesting, the audio starts playing in the HMD (as expected).
Is there any way to make the audio playback BOTH on the computer (speakers) AND the HMD?

I need to be presenting my game to a panel, and it would be nice if they could also hear the audio

outside of the headset, from my speakers.

[tiny niche]

quest streaming does that by default

[atomic badge]

unfortunately streaming is not an option, as I am on a LAN network with no access to the internet

[hot anvil]

Ive run into a problem in my scene where im trying to grab an object off of a very crude table I made and everytime my body collidies with the table (further away than the table object is)it then it teleports me back when I get to close or doesnt let me move further forwards

[lofty tangle]

Check the size of your body collider and of the table make sure then align with the visuals

[hot anvil]

ok will do thanks

[quasi osprey]

I have a programming question but for my VR app should I ask it here or in #archived-code-general

[hard coral]

i need help when i try to probuilderize a tunnel it does this

[north path]

If it's just about coding #archived-code-general
This is more for issues with VR specifically

[hot anvil]

so ive come across an issue that im sure is an easy fix, im using ray interaction that comes with the basic xr interaction toolkit, and ive got it grabbing items from a far, but when it grabs them they spazm out when touching my actual hand models and I can move them up and down the rays with the joysticks on my vr controller

but I dont want it to spazm and idk if its the collision or physics type or what

[north path]

Make sure the grabbables and hands are on different layers and disable physics between them in player settings

[lapis copper]

How can I get the information with which controller of the Oculus an object was grabbed? (Unity, Multiplayer PUN2)

When I grab an object, I would need the info which player grabbed the object. The information is needed in multiplayer mode (PUN2), because different actions are triggered with the object depending on the player.
My idea was to use the Active Event under XR Grab Interactable, but I don't know how to get the controller info.

[elder fern]

I keep getting this in my crash log for my VR game running the openXR platform for windows builds. This crash causes the game to freeze at the splash screen and prevents the game from loading

[XR] SetOutput Failed.[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Error  ] xrGetSystem: XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE

[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ] ==== Report Reason: Uncaught Exception ====

[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ] ==== OpenXR Init Info ====
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ] Stage 1 Missing Entry Points: (1)
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.910][Info   ]   xrInitializeLoaderKHR

[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] Error: XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ]     Origin: result
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ]     Source: C:\build\output\unity\xr.sdk.openxr\NativePlugin\Source\unity_session.cpp:260
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] ==== Std Exception Thrown ====
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] Function: PreInit_Display_Setup::<lambda_4fbc124a0a834a46f47ad9f63094300a>::operator ()
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] Message: XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ]     Origin: result
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ]     Source: C:\build\output\unity\xr.sdk.openxr\NativePlugin\Source\unity_session.cpp:260
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] 
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] ==== Last 20 non-XR_SUCCESS returns ====
[XR] [15772] [10:53:19.911][Info   ] [FAILURE] xrGetSystem: XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE (1x)

[pine bison]

Can you show your XR settings? And are you sure you have your OpenXR Backend set?

[light musk]

Hi, I am having issues with shaders and XR, on the left eye everything is rendered properly but the shader of the potions on the right eye does no render properly if anyone could help me identifying the issue. Thanks in advance

[pine bison]

This looks like an issue with your shader not supporting single pass instanced rendering

Here's the docs on fixing it https://docs.unity3d.com/2022.1/Documentation/Manual/SinglePassInstancing.html

[light musk]

Thank you

[elder fern]

I have OpenXR enabled for both PCVR and standalone quest but I get the same issue on both builds

[pine bison]

Have you clicked this button in the Oculus program?

[elder fern]

Yeah that was one of the first things I did when I setup my device for the first time. I'd like to mention that I've built VR projects with unity before it's only recently that this has started happening

[pine bison]

Oh wait both on quest and pc?

[elder fern]

yep

[pine bison]

Do you have the Oculus OpenXR plugin active in your project?

[elder fern]

Do you mean this?

Sorry, didn't see that you specified the Oculus one. I have both plugins, the normal OpenXR and the Oculus OpenXR

[pine bison]

So under the android tab here, do you have the oculus feature group enabled?

[pine bison]

Hmmm ok I don't really know then, it's not an error message I've seen before

[elder fern]

Yeah I was really confused when I got the error as well. I might just try deleting my project settings and my XR settings folder and starting fresh

I've tried doing this already but I'll give it another go. See if anything has changed

[tiny niche]

do that, its either a broken project or package installation somewhere

[plain matrix]

can I make a vr game for oculus from macOS?

[tiny niche]

only if its a quest

oculus rift is a no-go

[plain matrix]

ok ty 🙂

[tiny niche]

but you will suffer, cause you can't use quest link/air link

[plain matrix]

ok ty

[lofty tangle]

i am building vr on my mac book. yes its possible, but as @tiny niche said its much harder as you cant connect your headset and test in editor. any time you want to test something you have to build it to your headset and test that way, but you're also lacking the console. so it can be harder to de bug.

[tiny niche]

you should be able to hook up the adb console

[plain matrix]

ok ty but can you advice some tutorial youtube channel?

[lofty tangle]

well yeah you can, but that extra stuff you have to do.

[tiny niche]

well you should be doing that either way. otherwise you wont be able to debug quest-specific issues

[plain matrix]

ok

[lofty tangle]

um. there are a few good ones. valem, justin does vr, fist full of shrimp. but they are all using the unity xr toolkit. i dont use toolkits for my stuff.

[lofty tangle]

yeah probably. im just building and uploading via side quest and testing that way. writing to a canavs text if i really need to see whats happening

[plain matrix]

ok but is xr toolkit valid?

[lofty tangle]

yeah its great. its unities vr solution. it lets you do a lot, all the basics and get it set up quick. and the tuts they have tell you how to use and customize them for your own use.
i just prefer making all my stuff from scratch as the thing im doing is very specific.

[plain matrix]

Ty

[sharp haven]

Is there a way to make my VR project using unity XR toolit to be playable on web browser using WebXR?

[north path]

There is an unofficial webxr exporter on GitHub, that's you best shot, but it might not be fully stable @sharp haven

[storm ether]

So I have Lens Flares on my directional light, and it looks great, but in VR its fucked, it places 2 lens flare for each eye, when it should just be centered, how do y'all fix this?

[north path]

I think it's a known issue without a fix atm. But haven't touched it in 3 months

[storm ether]

I can always get rid of it, not a big deal

I think I mentioned this a while ago as well, but im having issues where the VR headset is way underexposed on playing, in editor its nice and bright, but i have to boost it to get it to look the same in VR

No idea why this happens

[tiny niche]

diff with a clean project that doesn't have those issues

[storm ether]

Good idea, ill try that later

[storm ether]

It doesn't...

weird

What could cause that?

[tiny niche]

probable color space, hdr or post processing. but the point is you eliminate the issue and then reintroduce stuff until it comes back. Then you undo the breaking change and get on with your day

and use git while commiting often, that way you have a smaller diff to search through

[storm ether]

Also, currently I have 2 volumes, one that is my Sky and Fog Global Volume, and a Post Process. Does it matter which effects go in which one? Do the effects get applied in the order shown in the override?

[rapid basin]

Anyone know if it is possible to get the Unity XR Interaction Toolkit to work with Valve Index? Or is it not do-able at all?

Some older tutorials and videos make it seem like it should just work by default... but as some of you probably already know, it doesn't, the toolkit doesn't allow you to use most of the features in the valve index controllers.

I've looked on reddit and the general consensus seems to be "don't waste time using the XR Interaction Toolkit", but i thought i'd check here if anyone has some secret fix to this

[proud palm]

it's stretched out and I can only see it in my left eye (vr)

[onyx blaze]

I've come across the problem a couple of times. If you're building to android, switch platform to windows, then go to project settings and check if your URP module is installed in the graphics section of the settings. Then, switch the platform back to android, then double check that the URP module is installed.

[proud palm]

im doing it on windows

[sterile rune]

I have an issue where my lightmap is not getting applied to the right eye but is applied to the left eye on Oculus Quest 2. On Pico this issue isn't happening. Any thoughts or google terms?

[sterile rune]

Just a guess but have you set it to use OpenXR and gave it a whirl?

[rapid basin]

Yes, no matter what i do, the grip sensitivity is not tracked, it is simply a true/false "is grip being held" rather than tracking for a certain % of grip strength

Reddit seems to say that this was unavoidable when using the XRI toolkit, but they didn't seem certain

[buoyant jolt]

Speaking for us. We support vive & index with OpenXR through OpenVR for XR Interaction toolkit, although we dont actually use the toolkit ourselves (we wrote our own thing on raw OpenXR). However, as we build cross platform, we don't look or test index gripper sensitivity. Anything that supports sensitivity as an X/Y axis is accessible directly through OpenXR however, and I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't in there. Just keep in mind whatever you do there to access it would only really work for certain headsets.

All our clients are on Pico/ Quest now though. So we only have one tester with an index, and we only spot check it.

Yeah the value can be read directly. Depending on the version of the interaction toolkit, it has the input mapping set to on/off by sensitivity. So it should all be editable.

https://forum.unity.com/threads/gripforce-valve-index-input-issues.1224102/

[buoyant jolt]

The only way I think that can happen is if there is a shader compatibility issue (not using standard shader) or a render pipeline being used is buggy.

I haven't seen that happen with an LTS of Unity and BiRP with Standard or supported shaders before.

There is a chance switching to deferred rendering will fix it, but that's not much if a solution as it'll impact the performance.

[buoyant jolt]

I use lens flares all the time, no issues, quest / Pico/ pcvr, psvr, web and mobile - unity 5.x, 2017/18/19/20 & 2021. The URP version is iffy though and barely released... if you went down that route.

[rapid basin]

Thanks, I guess this is the place to ask questions rather than reddit clearly. Much appreciated, will look into this in the morning

I just googled you guys too and will be convincing my friends to get Muffin Fight VR, that looks like a really fun idea, i can't wait to try it with them

[sterile rune]

thanks. I'm going through the logs to try and spot whatever changed

[buoyant jolt]

Thanks!! If you are still stuck tomorrow, ping me, and I can share the code we use to track pressure as a raw value. It might help!

[buoyant jolt]

I'd also make sure if you are using URP, just that everything in package manager is updated

[sterile rune]

turning off post processing did it

[cinder acorn]

Hey, im want to check if player is pressing joysticks to move (continuous movement)
in order to play footsteps sound effect

How can i run such check via code? Should i simply check for InputAction CallBackContext?
Or these some kind of built in method? Thx

[storm ether]

I'm using HDRP, and experiencing it on 2021 and 2022 LTS, weird how your's works

[storm ether]

It works fine in editor, but it puts a lens flare on each eye in the headset, for some reason

[buoyant jolt]

Ah that makes sense, we don't use HDRP for VR. I'm not sure how well or frequently that's supported 😦 hopefully someone else has had it working before and can help you

[storm ether]

That's fine! Thanks for helping out

[bold crest]

can any1 help with this error

[honest pond]

There is a error in your C# file, you can delete the unused file or fix the error

[bold crest]

How do I know what file it is?

[honest pond]

the forth error tells you

wait it is unfixable

maybe another version of de plugin

delete a duplicate plugin

that is all I know

[crude frost]

Greetings. I'm trying to detect HMD removal, but It doesn't seem to be working. I'm using the new input system, and referenced this forum post https://forum.unity.com/threads/openxr-new-input-system-detect-hmd-removed.1096345/

I'm subscribed to these events. But, I don't ever see the debug logs when I take off the HMD, or put it back on (when connected in editor using steam).

I also tried on a build for both Pico and Quest. Connected to logcat, and never saw a debug log when entering my methods.

public InputActionReference userPresenceAction;
private void Awake()
{
    userPresenceAction.action.Enable();
    userPresenceAction.action.canceled += UserPresenceEventCanceled;
    userPresenceAction.action.started += UserPresenceEventStarted;
    Application.quitting += ApplicationReset;
    //Application.wantsToQuit += Application_wantsToQuit;
}

[north path]

I think you can use on application focus as well. Or OnApplicationPause

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/MonoBehaviour.OnApplicationFocus.html

For oculus OVRManager.hasInputFocus could work

[lofty tangle]

you could try something like this?

    private List<XRDisplaySubsystem> displaySubsystems = new List<XRDisplaySubsystem>();

    private XRDisplaySubsystem GetXRDisplaySubsystem()
    {
        XRDisplaySubsystem displaySubsystem = null;

        SubsystemManager.GetInstances(displaySubsystems);
        if (displaySubsystems.Count > 0)
        {
            displaySubsystem = displaySubsystems[0];
        }

        return displaySubsystem;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        var displaySubsystem = GetXRDisplaySubsystem();

        if (displaySubsystem != null)
        {
            if (isHeadsetOn && !displaySubsystem.running)
            {
                // Headset is removed
                OnHeadsetRemoved();
                isHeadsetOn = false;
            }
            else if (!isHeadsetOn && displaySubsystem.running)
            {
                // Headset is put back on
                OnHeadsetPutOn();
                isHeadsetOn = true;
            }
        }
}```

[crude frost]

LOL. Thats EXACTLY what i ended up doing.

[lofty tangle]

haha cool

[crude frost]

I wonder what the deal is with the userPresence input action though, and why it isn't working

[lofty tangle]

maybe cause this? ```'XRDevice.isPresent' is obsolete: 'This is obsolete, and should no longer be used. Instead, find the active XRDisplaySubsystem and check that the running property is true (for details, see XRDevice.isPresent documentation).'

idk if it uses the same thing or if its just idk no idea

[sharp hedge]

how do i move the vr camera/desktop camera

i want to move both

to the same location

without moving the player

[north path]

What do you want to do exactly?
You say you want to move the player's vr camera, but not move the player?
Like an out of body experience?

Or do you mean just the flat screen output? If so, make a second camera and set the output to display 1

[storm ether]

Strangely enough, it's not centered on each eye

its to the right on the right eye, and the left on the left eye

[abstract sigil]

I'm reading through the docs on the XR plugins and I'm really confused on what I should be using in Unity 2022 given that it just released as LTS. I'd like to target quest standalone at the minimum but have the ability to port to PC VR as well. Should I install com.unity.xr.openxr? What about com.unity.xr.oculus? I'm not quite sure what I should be checking for the Desktop and Android platforms under XR plug-in management. Without either of those packages installed it looks like I only have Oculus available under Android, and OpenXR available under Desktop

[tiny niche]

try going through the vr pathway

[sharp hedge]

i want to put the camera onto a moving object but i dont want to move the player

[north path]

How does this work? The player sees using the camera. So it will look like the player is moving?

But you can disable the tracked pose driver and then move the camera? Or move the parent?
It's not that hard to make this

[terse locust]

Anyone knows the best way to do a damage HUD? To show in the camera some red png when an enemy hits you.

[north path]

You could do a world space canvas which you smoothly (or not smoothly) move with the camera

[steel hedge]

when i try to start the game in editor it gets stuck on Application.EnterPlayMode. this only happens when STEAMVR is open. anyone know how to fix this?

[north path]

Are unity and all the XR plugins updated?
This sounds like a bug which is fixed already

[steel hedge]

i'm updating unity rn 😄 hopefully it gets fixed

[steel hedge]

at least to me everything seems updated but i still have the issue

[vast pier]

Hi I want to create a game on the Quest 2 headset, but when the build and run finishes, I get a small black screen on my headset with the file name. If anyone has an idea of how to fix it cares thanks.

[north path]

Did you enable the XR plugin for android?
Which graphics API do you use?

[vast pier]

yes

[north path]

Maybe try Oculus XR plugin?
And switch opengl/vulkan if you disable automatic graphics api?

And update unity if not already

[vast pier]

ok i will test thanks

that s working thanks a lot❤️

[steel hedge]

are there any fixes?

[north path]

I'm not sure, depends on the exact issue. I've never encountered it

[supple heron]

Hi everybody, I'm trying to create portals in VR, but I'm running into some problems with the shader. I'm having the exact same problem as this post: https://forum.unity.com/threads/how-to-specify-left-right-eye-when-using-computescreenpos-in-a-shader.946006/

Any help would be appreciated!

[shell kayak]

First of all, if you haven't already done this, there are some macros you need to put in your shader to make it work with single pass (instanced). Those are documented here:
https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/SinglePassInstancing.html

Also not listed on that page is #pragma multi_compile_instancing, which you'll also need.

After all that is in place, ComputeScreenPos should return the correct position for the current eye. As you can see from the source code:
https://github.com/chsxf/unity-built-in-shaders/blob/dfa826f0963c668dde83358ec4200f3d7bed56cf/Shaders/CGIncludes/UnityCG.cginc#L830

[misty schooner]

So, I'm getting myself really confused because apparently how I did VR basics before I can't find how to do again so I presume that doesn't work anymore... I'm just trying to get it so I can grab an object and hold it and be able to throw it, can anyone point me in the right direction please?

I found this: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.xr.interaction.toolkit@2.3/manual/xr-grab-interactable.html but I can't work out what this is meant to be for exactly/how it works (unity version 2023.1.0b19)

[supple heron]

Thank you so much for the reply. After following the SinglePassInstancing documentation, the debugging shader is working just fine. (i'm seeing green for my left eye and red for my right eye) However, seems like the shader is still not entering the if defined(UNITY_SINGLE_PASS_STEREO) statement. I tried following instructions from the link below, but it's still not entering the if statement.
https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/unity-single-pass/

[shell kayak]

How are you testing the if statement?

[supple heron]

Inside the debug shader, I return a black color if single pass stereo is not enabled

{
    UNITY_SETUP_STEREO_EYE_INDEX_POST_VERTEX(i);

    #if !defined(UNITY_SINGLE_PASS_STEREO)
       return float4(0,0,0,0);
    #endif

    return lerp(_LeftEyeColor, _RightEyeColor, unity_StereoEyeIndex);
}```

After playing the game, I'm seeing black in my VR headset

[shell kayak]

So that's probably because UNITY_SINGLE_PASS_STEREO refers to the old single pass method, whereas the new single pass (instanced) uses the UNITY_STEREO_INSTANCING_ENABLED keyword.

[shell kayak]

With instancing, a texture array is used instead of a doublewide texture, so no changes need to be done to the UV in ComputeScreenPos

[supple heron]

I see, so the problem with the portal not aligning is not because there's something wrong with ComputeScreenPos?

[misty schooner]

Any help please?

[storm ether]

I think i'm gonna go with UltimateXR, any downsides to it that would make you choose something else?

[storm ether]

Interesting

[storm ether]

There's a guy on youtube called Valem Tutorials, he has lots of VR videos you can reference, it's how I set up my scene

[proven siren]

So in order to fix my issue with the object in my vr scene breaking movement when I pick it up I put them on separate physics layers and disabled interaction between them, but now I can no longer pick up the object. How can I make it so that I can pick it up but it doesn't interact with the player physics layer? Thanks!

[modern solstice]

i apologize if this is a frequently asked question but how would one fix this issue while trying to render with the mock hmd?

[north path]

Nice!
Biggest downside is no OpenXR support (yet).
Other than that I haven't tried it enough to give more info

[north path]

Have a layer for the player body, hands, and object maybe?
Or code the grabbing that just uses physics in code with raycasts etc

[north path]

Which unity version?
Does it also show like this in an hmd?

[modern solstice]

2019.3.1f1
i do not have an hmd to test right now unfortunately

[north path]

Maybe update unity, that version is very old

Its most likely a unity bug

[modern solstice]

updating is not an option for me right now, but i created a new project in the same verison and it renders fine

nevermind i figured out what was causing it..

and of course it was something dumb

[misty schooner]

rip, no tutorial channel ever has proper subtitles. Thanks for the recommendation, hopefully the captions are accurate enough lol

[storm ether]

Ah, what language are you looking for?

[misty schooner]

English! I'm just hard of hearing 😅

[storm ether]

Ahhh got it, that makes this problematic

His accent probably doesn't help either...

[white zodiac]

hello im using unity 2021 and photon PUN for make a vr multiplayer game and now I have a problem here, I use a xr origin for default and then when i connected to room the network player is spawning but i want to add movement to this system how can i do this ?

[storm ether]

does anyone know ho9w to make a working atm in ur gtag fsn game

[north path]

What was it?

[modern solstice]

oh the shader i was using for a bloom effect didnt properly support single pass instanced so it was displaying incorrectly

[north path]

Ahhhh

[lofty tangle]

i was having an issue with the quest touch controllers not being positioned correctly.
i just opened a new project using the latest 2022 lts version and after setting up the basic xr support using openXR for quest 2 and using an XR rig the controllers rotated 90 so that forward is point up.

in editor the controllers forward is forward, as it should be. i put a controller model as a child of the hands and when pressing play the controllers point up instead of forward.

has anyone come across this

anyone know how to fix it?

[lofty tangle]

or are able to replicate it?

[north path]

How big is the offset?
OpenXR might have some small offsets, but nothing major

[storm ether]

How do I add a capsule body to the XR Origin?

[lofty tangle]

It’s like -67.5 degrees the controllers point strait up instead of forward

[proven siren]

so I fixed the weird collision issue I was having, but I am now having an issue where I am able to push a rigidbody under the map, as shown in the video. Does anyone know how to prevent this? Thanks!

[north path]

Do you just use a tracked pose driver or something else?
Can you test on other headsets?
Did you update unity and openxr already?

[north path]

If it's just flat don't use a mesh collider and use a box collider instead (and move it down so the floor is the same level)

[lofty tangle]

Yeah I’m using the latest. Only have one headset. And I have tried the xr toolkit controller, and tracked pose driver and get the same results. I’ve also made a custom script that I use to get the device at node and set the position and rotation to the devices values. Same result with that scrip but at least with the custom one I can add my own offset to the rotation to make it how it should be. I just have no idea why it does this.
cause it used to just match properly.

[zenith jasper]

I have a question so currently my laptop spec is Ryzen 7 5600 with 1650, so currently when i play the scene it give the constant framerate of 200+ but when i try to put the headset on it goes stuck at 35 frames, in vr headset i see a lot of jitter as im moving the sword left and right but in editor it looks fine is it because of my pc specs or is it due to something else?

[north path]

Yes, a 1650 is not that fast, so you gotta optimize it a lot to run it, or reduce resolution.
A quest 2 is basically running half a 4k screen twice

[zenith jasper]

will 2060 give decent frames?

[quasi osprey]

Hey guys I messaged here a few days ago asking about voice integration for unity while developing for VR. I found an sdk that can help it’s the official meta voice sdk but I’m stuck at another bit

Basically I want to have the user push a button to record their voice so their voice gets recognised but I’m not sure how to add that control. I fidgeted with the XRI default player inputs but now my player basically spawns without hands and the remotes don’t do anything in the project

[burnt raptor]

Ayyyyy, I got a bit fo a problem with my game

The basic jist of the issue is that whenever I go to build and export my game (aimed for Meta Quest 2 if that matters), the camera will auto-lock to the bottom of the skybox and you can't do anything. Even when I removed the skybox to a basic default color, it still does this Howwwwwwwwwwweevr, when I move the XR origin and do a lil 'crtl + z', it reverts it just fine and the view is set back to how it should in the game window.
So far, I've tried to disable my skybox, change the skybox, and change render settings. Nothing has worked so far and it stays on that screen. A fast response would be nice so I can continue to development on schedule.

Thanks you so much!

Once I get this done and over with, I can actually do stuff lmfao

[onyx blaze]

way too many words for me bruv

[burnt raptor]

:|

[glacial epoch]

Really? So we dont use XRITK. So, is there an alternative or something?

[glacial epoch]

https://answers.unity.com/questions/1763852/how-to-set-joystick-for-movement.html

[pine bison]

But what's the issue? Does it not work when played on the Quest?

[lofty tangle]

Sure. There are other toolkits, or like me you could use no toolkit. You just have to build everything yourself

[burnt raptor]

The issue is explained above, and this game is built for Quest 2 so like, I can't exactly make it flatscreen and I don't own a PC good enough for PCVR so I can't test that, either

[plain matrix]

I have another problem, I added the hands and I followed the Valem’s tutorial, when I play, I see the hands on the ground and they don’t follow the controllers

I used the valem’s template and there is the same problem

[lofty tangle]

Check the xr plug in manager. Are you using openXR? For quest2 I had that issue until I removed the touch pro controllers from the interaction profiles. Have just the oculus touch controller there worked for me

[plain matrix]

Ok I’ll try

[plain matrix]

It worked ty

[lofty tangle]

Yeah took me a while to figure out. No idea why it doesn’t work with both

[zenith pasture]

Hi, this is a very strange issue, butaybr someone might know
I need to somehow find the location of the player's chest (or spine, for that matter) as accurately as possible with no sensors to help me
So far I have tried rigging an avatar with IK to the player's hands, but it just isn't accurate enough
If anybody has an idea how to do this, please let me know

[severe saffron]

Nothing is likely to be more accurate than IK, without sensors. Ive seen some machine learning based stuff to guessinate positions, but thats complete overkill

truth is you either need those extra sensors or a PHD in ML

[zenith pasture]

That isn't going to run on quest 2 anyways, not enough performance

[severe saffron]

ok so

time to learn machine learning?

[zenith pasture]

No way you can run such model on such limited HW

Also, no way I can even make such thing

[severe saffron]

Well its good to know your limits I suppose

[zenith pasture]

And the use case - I need to know the degrees of rotation in both shoulders in 2 axis at all times

[severe saffron]

cool.... You can guess it kinematically as you said before, which is inaccurate

or you can.....?

...do what?

[zenith pasture]

Yeah, I guess the IK is the only and best option

[severe saffron]

Sadly yes, its been researched quite a bit already

there's only so much information you can infer from 3 orientations

[zenith pasture]

It works well enough until you reach angles beyond 45 degrees

Maybe I can play around with the IK to make it reflect reality better

[severe saffron]

you can certainly adjust everything under the sun. Tweaking your IK rig can be quite time consuming.

I found bend goals, forearm twist relaxers and all kinds of different things to get better IK than the defaults

[zenith pasture]

My biggest issue is spine movement

Basically the IKs spine moves way more than the real person's

[severe saffron]

certainly sounds like something to tweak

[zenith pasture]

Also, when you lose tracking of one hand, that controller moves to the default position, which breaks measurements too

[severe saffron]

are you using FinalIK or some other solution ?

[zenith pasture]

But I think that could be tweaked so that when you lose tracking, the IK for that hand stops until you regain it

[zenith pasture]

Yeah, finalIK

[severe saffron]

I am pretty sure it has arm length options so if the controllers appear far away it should do something else..... but yeah finalIK has a LOT of options

like....a ton.

you're probably better off asking about spine IK in their discord

[zenith pasture]

Probably, yeah

I was mostly looking for alternative solutions here afterall

Thanks for your advice

[severe saffron]

🫡

[rough plaza]

I set up a system to move the camera offset up and down using the right stick, and it works, except for the fact that whenever my character tries to walk up a slope they get launched into the sky /:

[flat helm]

who wants to test a vr game in a few weeks?

[unborn sphinx]

hey, for the basic xr controllers

whats the easiest way to get basic inputs

for now I literally just need the trigger

[gray estuary]

Hello there !
I'm looking everywhere but I don't see any informations about building an XR application in WebGL. I would like to use OpenXR with XR Toolkit if possible but it doesn't seems compatible.
Is there only WebXR to do it ?

[north path]

There is an unofficial webxr exporter on github
https://github.com/De-Panther/unity-webxr-export

This is not official, so we might not be able to help with it

[gray estuary]

That's a new tool to do WebXR builds, thank you !
But that means there is no way to build an application using the basic XR Plugin Management with openXR in a browser, right ?

[north path]

Here would be the WebXR exporter option, not openxr.
You gotta check how they do input

[gray estuary]

Will check that, I may have misunderstand

[terse locust]

Anyone got this error while trying to build?

[north path]

Make a clean build maybe. Seems like you decreased the sdk requirement

[terse locust]

It was about the Android Version I put

I was using the 6.0 that was 23

So i needed next

Bruh, I was getting a ton of errors before realizing

Next time I wont trust anything about a video from months ago, everything is "old" even being just a few months

[rough plaza]

get axis

[glacial epoch]

Nah, dont be like tat or it'd be very hard for you to move froward. Better would be that you just check if the things used in the tut have updated and then use the updated parts of the outdated parts shown in the tut. That way, you'd not only copy paste the tut but also learn and create on your own.

[fiery night]

Whenever I select OpenXR as plug-in provider, play mode doesn't actually play on my headset (quest 2, airlink). When I set the provider to oculus it does work. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

I have an interaction profile for oculus touch controllers. I also removed the oculus provider. I also tried a good old fashioned restart.

Edit: I think it might be 2023.1, I'll try a different version.
Edit 2: Same problem with 2021.3. I'll try link cable instead of airlink
Edit 3: Same problem. I see my editor. When running play the vr view goes black for a sec and then I see my desktop again (unity editor in play mode). I'll try adding the android module.
Edit 4: Still the same problem. I'll try switching platform to android.
Edit 5: Same... Last try, I'll disable the Mock Runtime OpenXR Feature group.
Edit 6: Success! Also, weird. Where can I leave feedback on courses? I had it enabled because the unity pathway told me to. I can see this exact same thing being mentioned in the comments on the course. I didn't even know there were comments until I started looking for a way to provide feedback. I found out I can do that at the end of the lesson, so no question remains. Leaving this here in case it's useful.

[hushed ledge]

Hello! I am a graduate student using Unity for an experiment with the Oculus Quest 2. We are using Unity version 2018.4.29f1.
The problem is, after the last Oculus updates, new apps open in a window:

Instead, old apps that I sideloaded previously still open normally as a full screen, interactive and immersive game.

[main quarry]

which options you set to get 72 fps on oculus?

I'm still around 40 - 50

using urp 12.1.11

[fiery night]

I get it by default, as long as your machine can push those frames anyway.

When I change the fps in the oculus app to 120, my machine starts pushing 120. 40/50 sounds like a performance thing to me

[north path]

Why use such an old version? :O
In newer versions with xr manager it usually is fixed by enabling oculus (or openxr) under xr management - anders and checking enable xr om startup.
Not sure how legacy works

[main quarry]

what you mean with "your machine"? i'm talking about build for oculus quest 2

[fiery night]

Then "your machine" is the quest 2.

When developing "your machine" is your PC

[north path]

@main quarry
Change depth texture mode to force prepass
Set intermediate texture to auto
Disable terrain holes if not used
Use fast sRGB/linear

Check the profiler (and renderdoc for GPU) with a build to see exactly where performance goes

These tips might help a little, but most performance issues is probably somewhere else

[fiery night]

Right, but it's not just a "go at 72 fps" checkbox is what I meant.

[north path]

No, 72 is the minimum for quest 2. If it doesn't reach that it's a performance issue

[fiery night]

Exactly

[north path]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjnZTAR0BuTDNeDPy44G4bUpYRHGzy_xh

Some settings to change that might help a bit as well

[fiery night]

🇳🇱

[fiery night]

There's no magic setting. You'll just have to check/test/try/profile to see where your frame time is going.

[main quarry]

yes, but the combination of all those settings is huge, so i'm asking for help on whcih settings should i surely not change

[fiery night]

#🥽┃virtual-reality message

Maybe start there

[main quarry]

render pipeline, rendering path, shader stripping, depth texture, compression types, prepass and so on

[fiery night]

But again, it's not just settings. Unless your scene is entirely empty.

If your scene is empty and you're getting 40/50 fps, that's not good.

[main quarry]

it's quite empty

[fiery night]

I don't believe you :p

[fiery night]

That doesn't look empty.

[main quarry]

here i was testing the vignette

[fiery night]

Stuff like post processing for example, takes quite the hit. Complicated (or many) materials, large (or many) textures, many individual objects

Just profile

[main quarry]

2k texture is too large?

the room model has 1 texture and 10k verts

[fiery night]

Well start with the videos linked above for potential quick wins.

After that profile

[main quarry]

i'm watching it

[fiery night]

Do you know how to profile?

[main quarry]

a bit, not really

[fiery night]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/profiler-profiling-applications.html this should help

It has instructions for android builds

[main quarry]

I tried with meta quest develop hub and his integrated profile, it say my gpu usage stays at 99% all times

[fiery night]

That's fine. It's about profiling your frames

That way you can see what a frame is spending time on

So you can identify the heaviest parts, and optimize if needed/possible

[main quarry]

thanks you both, RWOverdijk and Dev Dunk

[hushed ledge]

Thank you for your answer. The project was set up by someone else in the old version, and I was afraid that updating would break it. But we will give it a try. Cna I ask you, what do you mean by "under xr management - anders"? What is "anders"?

[north path]

I meant to type android
Autocorrect was on dutch lmao

[fiery night]

You can always put it in version control, make a commit, try a new version and revert if you can't salvage it

Makes it safe to mess around

[hushed ledge]

thanks

@fiery night thank you, good point

[crude juniper]

Hey guys,
I'm currently working on a VR-game for my studies and today I made a build for my game and this happened. Everything was lagging and in my other scene, well... I don't even know how to describe it 😄
Inside the Engine everything works fine.
Does anybody know what the problem here is?
I'm using the XR Interaction toolkit, building on my Quest 2 and I'm also using Enviro 3 for my Sky. I also deleted Enviro from my scene, but that didn't help.

[north path]

Check the profiler for the performance issue maybe?

And what shader is used with the graphics issue?

[crude juniper]

Haha sorry if I'm being dumb, but what do I have to do 😄

[tiny niche]

if by engine you mean editor and by build you mean a quest build, then you went from running on a pc to essentially a phone with slightly better cooling

[crude juniper]

Yeah ok, but there is basically nothing in my scene yet. So why would it be overloaded 🤔

[tiny niche]

wrong rendering settings can screw it up all on its own, or you just have an asset that simply can't be handled

[minor wasp]

Hello ! I might have a dumb question but my texture are rendering in a weird way 🙃 It's all pixelised, I'm using the build in render pipeline, and the shader for my materials are set to standard but idk if it's this causing the problem 😶 here what it look like after exporting it in apk
It's all OK for the background and the water and the tree (tree are on speed tree shader and have lod on it) but not other element

Edit : im exporting on occulus quest 2

[minor wasp]

I think I might have found the problem, I guess it's thé standard shader that was not ok

[minor wasp]

And I was wrong, the animation are still not working

[north path]

Is it Q2 natively?
Does it also happens via oculus link?
Do you use different quality tiers for android and PC?
Do you use MSAA?
Is it just the shadows/shadowed objects or also others? (the ground looks less pixelated)

[minor wasp]

Yes, no it's only when im building the apk, idk, there's anti aliasing in build in ?

Only the animated character :/ I fixed other object by changing the shader but it's not working for the npc

[pine bison]

Try building the same character in an empty scene

[quiet nymph]

I try to throw object with OVR Integration Hand Tracking in my application for Meta Quest Pro using Unity, somebody know why sometimes object flies away in random direction and random velocity?

[hushed ledge]

I have decided to try updating Unity. I have read on the Unity forum that Unity 2020 LTS may be better than the latest version of Unity (by the way, is that you on the Unity forum?)
https://forum.unity.com/threads/which-unity-version-for-quest-2-stability-performance.1316904/

I wanted to ask you if the fix you suggested is available in Unity 2020 LTS.

[north path]

2020lts still works and has most features, but won't get any updates. So if you want to be able to use new features, I suggest 2021LTS.

Both got XR management however

And yep, that's me

[minor wasp]

It's working 🫠

Well, I'm Lost on what could be the problem, I dont have any script except the xr plugin and interaction toolkit :/
I fix the shader for certains and the pixels disspeared but not on the npc

[pine bison]

You seem to have a pretty complex scene with lighting and water, it might be a result of overworking the GPU

[minor wasp]

I supposed it's better if I export it as a standalone and stream it from the pc ? 😅

[tiny niche]

you mean make a pc build and run that on quest link? yes

[storm ether]

someone please help, i switched the xr render mode to multi-pass and now for the last hour and a half its been in the same loop of showing some text and then resolving the package
because im trying to make monk tag game and i switched the render mode to multi-pass and now its in the loop. this has never happend before

[surreal jolt]

Can anyone give me an ELI5 breakdown of the differences between the XR Controller (Device Based) and XR Controller (Action Based)?
Based on my understanding, I think the Device Based controller uses the headset to track the users position and the Action Based controller uses inputs from the controller?

Are these components interchangeable?

[north path]

Maybe delete the library folder to clear the cache?

[north path]

Now sure what an ELI5 breakdown is supposed to be, but you're far off.
If you google 'unity xr action based vs device based', you will get an explanation, right in the official unity docs. Top of the page
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.xr.interaction.toolkit@2.0/manual/general-setup.html

Aka actions uses the new input system and is easier to extend and might have better performance. Always use this

[tiny niche]

they both do the same thing, the action based system is just the new way of doing it and you get some signal processing capabilities as a result

and while you can swap between them, the action-based system has more capabilities and they don't play nice together in the same project

your takeaway from this should be: you pick the action-based rig, or you get the device-based rig forced upon you through external factors

[fiery night]

SelectEnter(XRBaseInteractor, XRBaseInteractable) has been deprecated. Use SelectEnter(IXRSelectInteractor, IXRSelectInteractable) instead.
I'm doing a confusion. Where do I get a IXRSelectInteractor from? I am using XRGrabInteractable and I'm trying to set a value for XRSocketInteractor (because of the AI). I've never seen IXRSelectInteractor before.

The same question applies to IXRSelectInteractable, which I've also not seen before.

The source code seems to just cast it. I'm confused, why?

Edit: I actually also want to know how to set an item in a socket interactor through code. I can't seem to get it to work

[storm ether]

i need help

im making a gtag fangame

and i added cosmetics and stuff

but now theres loads of errors

so i cant build the game

those are the errors

idk how to fix them

[storm ether]

i found out how to fix it

i closed unity

went into the game's files

and deleted the library folder

then i went back onto the game

and reimported the scenes

then built the apk

and it works now

[twilit dust]

Hey all, anyone know how to build a Unity app that utilizes the Quest pro passthrough? Specifically, over oculus link. I can do it in the developer, but not with a built application.

[lament kraken]

if you use Occulus integration toolkit you should have the possibility to enable passthrough via the inspector

[terse locust]

when I export the game into the Oculus quest 2 its just a black window that eventually crashes. Everyone knows this error?

[rough plaza]

On PCVR, the player spawns where they're supposed to, however, on Oculus Quest, they spawn with an offset?

[fiery night]

Sounds like a playspace difference. I test this by using stationary guardian. Could that be it?

[rough plaza]

Stationary boundary, playspace centered, I start the game, and I'm stuck in the middle of an object.

[lofty tangle]

Yeah it’s super annoying. I mean you can move the xr rig so that the player is where you want. But even if I run that in start the player remains offset it only work if I do it later on. Got to figure when to get it to work right

[queen minnow]

anyone know why the IK is messing up the arms?

[knotty vortex]

i copied dis code from gitub. how do i change it so instead of the mouse being clicked it has you click your vr controller grip

[queen minnow]

Button.PrimaryThumbstick is probably what you would want as that should work for all controllers as each controller has a diffrent type of grip button

[knotty vortex]

no i mean like the bottom trigger

not the thumbstick

[queen minnow]

button trigger?

[knotty vortex]

im hella new bruh explain like im a 5 yr old

[queen minnow]

ah right

so theres many controllers, saying button button is like saying "that button there"

[knotty vortex]

i wanna click my trigger thats usually used for grabbing stuff, instead of the mouse

as shown in the png

meta quest 2

controller

[queen minnow]

ah ok

[knotty vortex]

so what would i put instead of "GetMouseButtonDown"?

[queen minnow]

i think that would be PrimaryHandTrigger

[knotty vortex]

so it should look like

if (PrimaryHandTriggerDown(0))

or no?

[queen minnow]

Input.PrimaryHandTriggerthis seems correct

ive never really messed with metas controllers so thats my best guess

[knotty vortex]

but its for computer mouses

ah

[queen minnow]

wait not mouse

[knotty vortex]

?

[queen minnow]

there

edited

[knotty vortex]

wdym

[queen minnow]

just try your way, lets hope it works

[knotty vortex]

fr

ive already stayed up and lost sleep on this too many times 💀

[queen minnow]

https://docs.unity3d.com/560/Documentation/ScriptReference/Input.GetJoystickNames.html could try this if all else

[knotty vortex]

tytytytyty i need that site so much

holy shit tyty

[queen minnow]

also in the XR insteractions debugger, it shows which buttons are being pressed

[lofty tangle]

Also the device common usage hand trigger, or grip or whatever it’s called i forget, it returns a bool so it’ll be true when down and false when up. Which is a bit different from get button down as that only is true that one frame when it’s pressed down.

[knotty vortex]

yo can we hop in a call rq?

[lofty tangle]

So using the input alone would run Startagrapple() each frame that it’s down.

Cant I’m doordashing right now

[knotty vortex]

ah mmk.

[lofty tangle]

So I’m not near my computer/code

[knotty vortex]

kk

[lofty tangle]

InputDevice device = InputDevices.GetDeviceAtXRNode(XRNode.RightHand);

device.TryGetFeatureValue(CommonUsages.gripButton, out gripButton);

You can get the device and the input using this.

[knotty vortex]

where do i put that

can u rewrite the whole section so i can just paste it

im new asf to vr unity

and c#

[knotty vortex]

like rewrite dis but with what u said

[lofty tangle]

Instead of using input, the get button down or to get a VR input, you need to first access the device in this case, using the XR mode of the right hand to get the right advice, and then getting the common usage. Input of the grip button is getting the value of returning the value of true or false, you would then need to create another Boolean to determine what the input value was last frame so that when you want to run the grapple start function, you can check if the input was false last friend that is true this friend then that’s when you want to do it so that it’s not running everyframe it’s true

[knotty vortex]

uh

um

i dont understand anything u just said

im so new dawg im sorry lemme re read it 😭

[lofty tangle]

Well, there might be some words wrong. I’m using voice to text cause I’m driving.

[knotty vortex]

ah

[lofty tangle]

But basically, it’s just how you get input from your VR device and you also want to store whatever the value of the input was last frame so that you can check if the input was down the frame specifically and hasn’t just been being held down

If you do all that you should be able to run your functions as expected when you were using, get in put down

[lofty tangle]

#🥽┃virtual-reality message

Also make sure you have the xr using at the top if using this.

Or you could set up your xr input actions in the “new” input system. But bleh.

[queen minnow]

does anyone know why this is happening?
Context: This is IK

[lapis copper]

Does anyone know how to turn it off that an object can be grabbed for a short time via script?
I have a multiplayer game with Photon and when one player grabs an object from another's hand, it looks to both of them like they are currently holding the object. When player1 lets go of it, the object passes to the other player. So my idea was that the player who has the object in his hand first is not allowed to touch it for a short time. So that the second player can take the object away from the first.

[zenith jasper]

after running the scene i can see a particular road mesh in left side of occulus but cant in right side anyone know why its happenening

[north path]

What shader does it use? Is it single pass instanced compatible?

[zenith jasper]

Shader Graph Lit

changed the shader now its working fine

[north path]

Then there you go. If you open and save the graph it might upgrade as well if it's made in an older version

[thick condor]

I was just screwing up my project with PassThrough setting for Quest link and my XRRig controllers don't leave the origin
Is there btw "some" way to setup passthrough somehow through openXR so I don't have to deal with oculuse's tools?

Or is it the only way to have an xrrig and oculus rig and somehow toggle between them on the runtime?

[north path]

@thick condor

1. If someone walks, the xr origin indeed doesn't move. It's like a center point for your player.
   You can change the position of it to move the player through the game world.

1.1 edit: I see you only mean the controllers. Not sure about that

2. You can use OpenXR, but still need to use some OVR components from the oculus integration. All HMDs have their own Passthrough handling.
   https://forum.unity.com/threads/possible-to-make-the-oculus-passthrough-api-work-with-the-openxr-plugin.1412400/

3. Of course you can toggle between 2 game objects

[thick condor]

Ah thanks @north path I will look into that. I was just reading that indeed the openxr pcvr and passthrough isn't really standartized so I reckon I will have to implement that for each headset separately

[north path]

Ahh PCVR support is really bad yeah

Oculus only allows it in dev mode iirc

For Passthrough that is

[thick condor]

Yeah, it took me a while but I got it working, now even with hands and am able to grab things.

I mean the virtual hands = no controller

It's gonna be a mess soon if this is not standartized I worry. Apple, all the quests, steam VR. All with it's own AR, hands and passhtrough APIs

[lament kraken]

Hi everyone, I have a issue with a really low FPS situation. I'm stuck to 36 fps and I just tried a couple of thing and even when the only object in my scene is a cube (ground) and there is nothing to render, the profiler is pretty much saying that the graphics pipeline is waiting for something else to finish (if I read that well on the unity forum) but I can't find the reason or the source of it. any idea whats the reason behind it? here some information about my setting and profiler:

[lament kraken]

in the scene where I have only a box acting like the ground, I found that if I look only in the sky, I go up to 72 FPS, but at the moment I need to render something (for example a simple cube who act like the floor on the last picture), the fps drops drastically

[north path]

SSAO is killing performance.
Disable it
If absolutely necessary use after opaque for it

[tiny niche]

that's not a simple cube. a simple cube would have the default material assigned to it

[vivid condor]

does anyone know how to use the sdk for PICO?
when i try to enable it in the XR plug-in management in project settings
i get the error: Failure reason: Error Message: Unable to add package [com.unity.xr.picoxr].

[north path]

Did you get the latest version?
Is it in the packages folder?
Any other errors or more info when you click on the error?
Which unity version do you use?
@vivid condor

[vivid condor]

the sdk was in a zip format, which was weird,
i placed it in a folder inside my assets

[pine bison]

Yeah that's not correct

This page goes through how to set up the plugin in Unity https://developer-global.pico-interactive.com/document/unity/import-the-sdk/

[vivid condor]

thanks

do you think it will work on 2022.3.0 now?

[pine bison]

Yes

But I haven't tried myself, only 2021

Do be aware that there have been performance regressions in standalone VR in 2022, which affects pico as well. It's been reported by Dev Dunk

[vivid condor]

do i still need something from the project itself?
getting the following errors:

D:\Projects_Tests\Pico\SpatialAuido\Editor\PXR_Audio_Spatializer_ContextEditor.cs(5,22): error CS0246: The type or namespace name 'PXR_Audio_Spatializer_Context' could not be found

D:\Projects_Tests\Pico\SpatialAuido\Editor\PXR_Audio_Spatializer_SceneGeometryEditor.cs(4,22): error CS0246: The type or namespace name 'PXR_Audio_Spatializer_SceneGeometry' could not be found

tested clean builds on 2 versions:
2021.3.13
2022.3.0

[north path]

Is everything unzipped properly?
I had no issues in 2021, never tried in 2022

[vivid condor]

yes, kept it in a standalone folder.
it should probably refer to the runtime folder, and i do see them inside that folder.

[storm ether]

I'm trying to get some photorealistic drawable puddles, how should I go about it?

I haven't found any really amazing assets so far

Nothing very eye-catching

It would be cool to get a reaction if the player steps in it as well

[north path]

What do you mean with drawable puddles?

[storm ether]

I mean something like a terrain material, or a way to connect splines to make custom shapes.

[north path]

I think you are looking at multiple systems.

1. paint on 3d objects or spline to mesh (for both there are assets etc)
2. Puddle shader/system (depends on your needs, I do know that there is a 2.5D water sim on the asset store)

[lament kraken]

the issue is fixed, but if you look at the last screenshot, yes this is a simple cube with the default meterial on it. the only thing that is different is the scale (100 by 1 by 100) to make it look like a ground

[meager canopy]

does anybody on a vr ready pc? if so, please help with playtesting my game. it would mean a lot so thank you 🙂

[knotty vortex]

can someone tell me why this line is flagged red?

(i highlighted it in blue)

[lofty tangle]

Well what does it say when hovered on it?

[knotty vortex]

@lofty tangle

any idea on how to fix?

i think i may have typed it wrong or forgot something

[lofty tangle]

Yeah your probably spelled reference wrong

[knotty vortex]

of course i did 😭

the guy that was showing me how to do it had an accent and pronounced the word Referance so my brain spelt it that way lmao

[vivid condor]

is there a Unique identifier I can use in the Pico/Oculus that won't ever change (factory resets included)?