archived-networking

[stone goblet]

"com.unity.multiplayer.mlapi": "0.1.0",

???

its correct

[olive vessel]

Do you know what a namespace is?

[stone goblet]

yes

[olive vessel]

I have no idea if that is how you install MLAPI, but if the rest of MLAPI works, just using the correct namespace for NetworkBehaviour

[stone goblet]

work!

thanks!

another error

if(!NetworkManager.Singleton.IsClient && !NetworkManager.Singleton.IsServer)

Object refence no set instance of an object

[olive vessel]

Is there a NetworkManager in your scene?

[stone goblet]

no

i beginner

and I repeat everything from the video

[olive vessel]

No

[stone goblet]

yes, no!

[olive vessel]

You are trying to access a NetworkManager, but you don't have one?

[stone goblet]

to be honest, I don't even know what I'm trying to access

hah

[olive vessel]

Are you totally beginner at Unity and C#?

[stone goblet]

no

im begginer in network

[stone goblet]

no

[olive vessel]

Ok well, follow the video properly

Because if you don't have a NetworkManager, you either missed a step, or haven't got to a step

Either way, you cannot access what doesn't exist, null reference

[stone goblet]

No

I have not missed anything

[olive vessel]

If NetworkManager.Singleton is giving you a NRE, you have missed something, don't try and argue the toss

[stone goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mf81GdEDU8&ab_channel=DapperDino

[olive vessel]

Do you have an object with a NetworkManager?

[stone goblet]

4.30

5.40

[olive vessel]

Answer my question

[stone goblet]

ok

im russian

sorry

and use the google translator

[stone goblet]

no

how to add it

[olive vessel]

You do know this is a video series?

This was the installation guide, find the next video

[stone goblet]

ok

No..

in the next videos it's different

[stone goblet]

so how to add this network manager

[olive vessel]

It's a component

[stone goblet]

щл

[olive vessel]

But find a different series if you don't like this one

[stone goblet]

ok

create empty object

and add component

???

[olive vessel]

Give it a go

[stone goblet]

???

[stone goblet]

i add network object component

[olive vessel]

Did I say NetworkObject or NetworkManager?

[stone goblet]

oh sorry

work

button

host

server

and client

but when i click on them nothing happens

Network transport

= None

but should i do

in video

its defined

[olive vessel]

Well there's only two options

https://docs-multiplayer.unity3d.com/docs/tutorials/helloworld/helloworldintro

[stone goblet]

workkk

!!!

i click to the UNET

transport

and this work

lol

it remains to add a network prefab

but how?

[olive vessel]

You should follow the tutorial I linked

[river meteor]

Lel

[river meteor]

How are you so patient man

Respect

[olive vessel]

It's completely dependent on my mood at a given time, my friends say I usually have a short fuse

[river meteor]

So you must be in very good mood today

[stone goblet]

Does anyone know how to test a networked game using unity itself without building the project

[olive vessel]

https://github.com/VeriorPies/ParrelSync Is something I see used often for that

You have two Editors open, and one is mirrored to the other

[cunning sluice]

So for Pun2 I added a OnOwnerChange to a script, and a targetcallback in the awake and destroy but it still doesn't work
Is there something else I need to have it receive the event for when the objects owner changes?
Could it be I'm not inheriting from the right class?

[spring crane]

@cunning sluice Put the script up somewhere. The target callback addition stuff should do what inheriting used to.

[cunning sluice]

using Photon.Pun;
using Photon.Realtime;
using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using UnityEngine.XR.Interaction.Toolkit;

public class XRGrabNetworkInteractable : XRGrabInteractable, IOnPhotonViewOwnerChange
{

    private PhotonView photonView;
    private Rigidbody rBody;
    // Start is called before the first frame update

    

    void Start()
    {
        
        photonView = GetComponent<PhotonView>();
        rBody = GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
    }

    protected override void Awake()
    {
        PhotonNetwork.AddCallbackTarget(this);
        base.Awake();
    }

    protected override void OnDestroy()
    {
        PhotonNetwork.RemoveCallbackTarget(this);
        base.OnDestroy();
    }

    protected override void OnSelectEntered(XRBaseInteractor interactor)
    {
        photonView.RequestOwnership();
        rBody.isKinematic = true;
        gameObject.transform.parent = interactor.transform;
        if(!photonView.IsMine)
        {
            
        }
        base.OnSelectEntered(interactor);

    }
    protected override void OnSelectExited(XRBaseInteractor interactor)
    {
        if(photonView.IsMine)
        {
            rBody.isKinematic = false;
            gameObject.transform.parent = null;
            base.OnSelectExited(interactor);
        }

    }

    public void OnOwnerChange(Player newOwner, Player previousOwner)
    {
        print("Changed Owner");
        if (!photonView.IsMine)
        {
            Drop();
            print("This is not mine");
            if (!rBody.isKinematic)
                rBody.isKinematic = true;
        }

    }
}

Is it because I don't have the monobehaviourpun?

I'm about to try making a separate script inheriting from that

[spring crane]

@cunning sluice Looks like AddCallbackTarget might not cover that interface

Ah yes, that's a PhotonView callback, so instead of registering to PhotonNetwork, you register to the photonView instance

https://doc.photonengine.com/en-us/pun/current/getting-started/dotnet-callbacks

You might be looking for IPunOwnershipCallbacks?

Though I think the photonview specific one fits your usecase better

[cunning sluice]

so it should work if I use these? MonoBehaviourPunCallbacks, IPunOwnershipCallbacks

[spring crane]

I wouldn't change that stuff, just change the CallbackTarget lines

Some callbacks are photonview specific, and some are.. network specific.

PhotonView callbacks should be added to the photonView instance, and not to PhotonNetwork

All classes implementing any PhotonView callbacks interfaces except IPunObservable must be registered and unregistered. Call photonView.AddCallbackTarget(this) and photonView.RemoveCallbackTarget(this).

[cunning sluice]

oh I see, and I was calling PhotonNetwork and not the photonView itself

so if I switch that up, it should receive the event correctly?

[spring crane]

Right

[cunning sluice]

ahhhhh

okay hopefully that works lol

this thing has been a pain in the butt since it's hard to test by myself

thank you

[chilly vapor]

hello guys

is there any production ready solution?

or i should use something like mirror or photon?

[spring crane]

MLAPI being at 0.1.0 implies that they don't think it's production ready.

[chilly vapor]

@spring crane do unity have any other solution except MLAPI?

[spring crane]

High level networking solutions for Monobehaviour, no.

I think they have a transport layer of some sort, but no idea what is the state of that, and I imagine you want something a bit more than just a transport layer

ECS has a networking solution of some kind, but no idea what the state of that is and you probably aren't going to be using ECS.

[chilly vapor]

yep, i'm coming from another engine, and having hard time struggling to pick the right networking solution

[verbal lodge]

Both MLAPI and the Unity Transport Package are still experimental.

[chilly vapor]

cuz i don't wanna just play around with it, i come to unity to remake my 2D game

so what is the top/best solution as for now?

[cunning sluice]

Well there are a lot of different frameworks that work fine

[spring crane]

<#archived-networking message> for a misc collection of networking framework names

[cunning sluice]

photon is pretty popular, and so is mirror

I think microsoft also has something

and epic games

[chilly vapor]

what do u mean by microsoft and epic? they have networking solution for unity?

[cunning sluice]

yeah I believe so, I looked into it at one point

let me grab the links

https://dev.epicgames.com/docs/services/en-US/CSharp/GettingStarted/index.html

[spring crane]

They likely have backend services and transport layers, I doubt they have high level frameworks for Unity

[cunning sluice]

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/apps/games/unity

and even though it's name brand

I don't believe they have as many resources as some of the other options

like mirror and photon

idk, danny knows way more than me on this stuff

I just started 2 weeks ago

[chilly vapor]

ok, thanks much

[cunning sluice]

on multiplayer experiences anyways

[chilly vapor]

unity should make things more clearly-easier for beginners

the downside of that other game engine (i think i can't tell his name), is that don't care about 2D games

and the downside of unity is that don't care about beginners

most of my time is wasting to pick the right tools, instead of learning unity-coding-designing game

[spring crane]

Mentioning Unity's competition by name is fine 😄

[chilly vapor]

the problem with photon is CCU payment, and my game would be F2P and asking for support devs DLC

[verbal lodge]

What would you recommend we do to make it more clear to you?

[chilly vapor]

@verbal lodgeif unity can't give us a native networking solution, at least setup an official page where we can read about top/best current solutions and read those pros-cons

or something like it

[verbal lodge]

Have you seen this: https://blog.unity.com/technology/choosing-the-right-netcode-for-your-game

[chilly vapor]

ah, that's good, pls place it upfront of the unity page

or somewhere which we can find it more easily

[mild salmon]

What would be the best way to just send and receive data over two devices in Unity? I don't need replication or anything, just support for transferring data like audio files, etc

easy mode: devices are on the same network

[ornate zinc]

Either use the phone built in share function or try to use serialport, for example.

[river meteor]

Lol, following that decision-making tree I should use MLAPI or Mirror, but using Photon Pun2 for small coop based game and I started thinking about switching the netcode API some time ago and wondering if Mirror wouldn't be better...

[spring crane]

@river meteor I wouldn't worry about it. That guide is not a replacement for your own evaluation.

[river meteor]

yeah I know but Mirror is free

I dont know why but Photon Pun is not even listed in that decision making tree xD

I am also still worried about photon pun limitations for ex. number of declared RPC shortcuts

My project is at early stage so changing network API will not be much work

[limber holly]

hello, I have a basic question about PUN and RPC, when My first player spawn in the map, I have header with healthBar + nickName, when the scond player login, this player can't see the nickname and the Healthbar not updated for the other player too. Can I have advise for understand this mistake ? 🙂

[river meteor]

so any player dont see their correct values for nickname and health?

[limber holly]

they can see their own information, not other one

[river meteor]

okey

[limber holly]

same for the healthbar update

[river meteor]

You must sync these values and it is easy af

just inherit IPunObservable interface in your player class

then implkement the interface

public void OnPhotonSerializeView(PhotonStream stream, PhotonMessageInfo info)
{
if(stream.IsWriting) // Here you are sending values to other clients. REMEMBER, all values must be readen then in the SAME OREDER as WRITTEN
{
stream.SendNext(nicknameValue);
stream.SendNext(healthValue);
}
else if (stream.IsReading)
{
this.nicknameValue = (string)stream.ReceiveNext();
this.healthValue = (int)stream.ReceiveNext(); // you must cast it to type which your values uses, so I dont know if your health is int or float or double...
}
}```

and thats it

it should work

[limber holly]

ok I read and try to understand this code; thanks so much

[river meteor]

If you will have any problem ping me I will try to help best I can

[spring crane]

I wouldn't consider creating and hosting your own servers exactly "free"

[river meteor]

so what is paid in mirror?

[spring crane]

The opportunity cost of spending your time figuring out the replacements for PUNs matchmaking and relay server infra, not to mention that you still need to host these somewhere

[river meteor]

In small coop game listen server is the best solution I think... in this case still I need matchmaking and relay server infrastructure?

[spring crane]

Odds are your players are not going to open their own ports

It can also be nice to have rooms players can discover instead of passing IP addresses around

[river meteor]

oh yeah I see the problem now

[cunning sluice]

honestly could just use pun2

they have room sizes of 20 for free

I believe among us uses it

[river meteor]

I dont understand this pricing system at all

[spring crane]

Among Us doesn't use PUN specifically, just something very similar to it

[chilly vapor]

do pun2 allow for creating server scripts & networking? , creating master server for authoritative and player profile system?

or instead of aut match making, let players to create custom lobby, add/invite friend

as mirror give u full control over client and server, i'm sure i can create such these things with mirror, but running and managing relay server still need some works, which in pun2 u don't need to worry about

i don't know much about pun2, so if anyone tell me some of it`s strength over mirror, the only thing that i know is about auto managing relay servers

[spring crane]

In that case you might just grab realtime and their server instead of trying to hack PUN. I would ask in the Photon server to see what they suggest.

[chilly vapor]

that's mean more payment, while mirror give it for free

[gleaming prawn]

If you want authority in mirror you also need to pay for hosting unity servers. That won’t be cheap

So free is not really free

[chilly vapor]

nop

u can do it with relay servers

and anyway we need a master server

on mirror there isn't any force to use unity servers

but on photon, u have to use photon servers

[limber holly]

I really don't understand Why but when my second client instantiate the player, he instantiate the player + the player already in the game

[atomic sierra]

Hey guys, what networking solutions are you using? I don't need a 1:1 unet, infact I would like a more performance-optimized solution. I did have a go at Mirror not long ago, but it's unsatisfactory

To be more clear, I don't need RPC functionality, ideally I would like a more direct approach

I've had a look at ENet and it seems very promising and I am just mostly wondering if anyone else has had a good experience using it?

And also if there are other libraries that can perform like this

[restive geode]

With Mirror, how do you send microphone input over the network to be heard by other players?

[limber holly]

I think I have aproblem with this code:playerObj.GetComponent<PhotonView>().RPC("Initialize", RpcTarget.AllViaServer, PhotonNetwork.LocalPlayer);

[chilly vapor]

@atomic sierrawhat is ur problem with mirror? cuz u are looking for a p2p networking & NAT solution? (trying to avoid dedicated server)

or ur problem with mirror is something else?

and about Enet, as far as i know, none of unity solution are production ready, and there isn't any guaranteed to work well w/o any bug, and if u found a critical, u can't do anything

[stone goblet]

Client is on MasterServer (must be Master Server for matchmaking)but not ready for operations (State: Joining). Wait for callback: OnJoinedLobby or OnConnectedToMaster.

Photon error

[robust sandal]

I Instantiate the player using its prefab through the line: "PhotonNetwork.Instantiate(player_prefab, t_spawn.position, t_spawn.rotation);"

Its in a empty gameobject in the map scene

[limber holly]

My problem is my public PlayerMain[] playerMain; is added well with my first player, but it doesn't works with the second... someone know why please ?

PlayersInGame's value also 1 with 2 clients

[olive vessel]

I don't see anywhere in that code where you add anything to that array

[stone goblet]

Client is on MasterServer (must be Master Server for matchmaking)but not ready for operations (State: Joining). Wait for callback: OnJoinedLobby or OnConnectedToMaster.

Help me please

Photon error

[spring crane]

Network operations are not instant. As the error says, the client needs to be in certain state to do certain things

[stone goblet]

Set timer?

[spring crane]

Or wait for those mentioned callbacks

Looks up those callback names for PUN documentation

[stone goblet]

what method to indicate when you can enter the room

[stone goblet]

i mean something like public override void OnCreateRoom()

[spring crane]

Either Joined or ConnectedToMaster by the looks of it

[stone goblet]

ok

i will try

[stone goblet]

could you tell me how override void onjoinedlobby works

[spring crane]

You should be able to find the info by looking it up. Could also study the samples provided with PUN

They have pretty extensive lobby samples

[stone goblet]

then send please link for pun 2 free documentation

I am using the free version of the pun, the pun version documentation may differ from the free version

[spring crane]

It doesn't

[stone goblet]

override void ConnectedToMaster doesnt exist

[empty lava]

Hello so i am making a amultiplayer game and trying to show rooms in my find room fuction using prefabs that works but when clicking the room to join it i get this error

https://pastebin.com/6YF4BMgA

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using TMPro;
using Photon.Realtime;

public class RoomListItem : MonoBehaviour
{
    [SerializeField] TMP_Text text;

    public RoomInfo info;

    public void SetUp(RoomInfo _info)
    {
        info = _info;
        text.text = _info.Name;
    }

    public void OnClick()
    {
        Launcher.Instance.JoinnRoom(info);
    }
}

Got told to post it here

[empty lava]

Can anyone help

[olive vessel]

Do you have a Launcher in the Scene?

Is the singleton working correctly?

Did you misspell Joinn on purpose?

[empty lava]

Yes i did misspell Joinn on purpose and the launcher is in the Scene. What do u mean by singleton

[olive vessel]

Well you use the word Instance which is usually indicative of a Singleton Implementation

You'll need to show us the Launcher class

[empty lava]

https://pastebin.com/WhrSNK2D

[olive vessel]

Ok so you've tried to make a Singleton, but you forgot the most important part

You need to assign the static field to something

Usually in Awake, you'd run Instance = this; or something, people usually add checks here to ensure that they don't have two of the script in the Scene

[empty lava]

Ok i have done that but now everytime i keep starting the game my prefab object in my Launcher inspector removes it self

[cobalt python]

Hi! i am using photon. Why these gameobjects move a little when player that created it leaves? CleanupCacheOnLeave is False. And it only occurs on NonMaster clients

[spring crane]

I would check if something funny is sent through the transform sync

[night cargo]

Can anyone plz give me network movement code because my $tupid script isnt working

[mint sundial]

i need help about photonengine

I have such a ball it moves perfectly when the game creator hits it ,but when the others hit it it lags and comes back slightly ahead of the place before hitting it

pls help

[dusky leaf]

What's the value of your PhotonNetwork.SendRate? It should be set to something like 30 so it keeps up with movement

[mint sundial]

Are you talking about transform view?

im new on photon sorry

this ball components

this player s components

[dusky leaf]

its a static variable

you do this in code, preferrably on an Awake() function of a GameObject that's active from the start

PhotonNetwork.sendRate = 30;
PhotonNetwork.sendRateOnSerialize = 30;

[mint sundial]

on ball?

[dusky leaf]

actually

make a new gameobject in the scene

and make a new script

name it something like SetSendRate

attach the script to that gameobject

[mint sundial]

i understand

like gamemanager

[dusky leaf]

yeah

make a public field called sendRate and default it to 30

then make an Awake function with

PhotonNetwork.sendRate = 30;
PhotonNetwork.sendRateOnSerialize = 30;

[mint sundial]

i trying thx

@dusky leaf there is some improvement but not fixed ):

i think relevant lerp

transform view

[cobalt python]

do you mean the ball returns to default position when non creator hits it?

[mint sundial]

yeahh yeah yeah @cobalt python

[glacial galleon]

Does anyone know how to use unet matchmaking in WebGL?

[cobalt python]

only creator can move his object. You should transfer object's ownership to other player that hits it

[mint sundial]

how can I do it

[cobalt python]

set owner field in PhotonView component of the ball to Takeover

and set in ball script:

void OnCollisionEnter(Collision contact)
    {
        if (!photonView.IsMine)
        {
            Transform collisionObjectRoot = contact.transform.root;
            if (collisionObjectRoot.CompareTag("Player") || collisionObjectRoot.CompareTag("OtherPlayer"))
            {
                //Transfer PhotonView of Rigidbody to our local player
                photonView.TransferOwnership(PhotonNetwork.LocalPlayer);
            }
        }
    }

[cobalt python]

but modify Tags or delete it

[mint sundial]

thanks i will try it

[cobalt python]

make sure your ball script inherits MonoBehaviourPun

[mint sundial]

@cobalt python All characters connected to playerfab, for example, the tag of the 1st player. Player, how can I set the tag of the 2nd player?

[cobalt python]

you can do in your player script

if (photonView.IsMine)
            {
                gameObject.tag = "Player";
            }
            else
            {
                gameObject.tag = "OtherPlayer";
            }        

[mint sundial]

that is more true :D

[cobalt python]

you can delete

if (collisionObjectRoot.CompareTag("Player") || collisionObjectRoot.CompareTag("OtherPlayer"))

if you dont need it

[mint sundial]

@cobalt pythonlocalPlayer giving error

localPlayer is a gameobject?

[cobalt python]

does you script has Using Photon.Pun on the top and inherits MonoBehaviourPun?

[mint sundial]

no i dont have

[cobalt python]

using Photon.Pun;

public class playerClass : MonoBehaviourPun

[mint sundial]

does not accept

[cobalt python]

try in Unity edit, preferences, external tools, regenerate project files

[mint sundial]

i do this

not worked ):

trying

@cobalt python not worked :((

[cobalt python]

thats strange, try to reimport pun

[mint sundial]

@cobalt python in here?

[cobalt python]

window PackageManager

[mint sundial]

ha okey

sorry i understand

@cobalt python

i mport this

they working but

i taking errors so much

importing again this

[cobalt python]

try to regenerate project files again

use pun2

[mint sundial]

all working

okey

only this not working

@cobalt python

is it localplayer?

so much errrooooooor

i taking photonrealtime errors

[robust sandal]

Why does this script not work

But this does

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using Photon.Pun;
using UnityEngine.UI;
using TMPro;

namespace Com.OcerGames.AirPVP
{
    public class Launcher : MonoBehaviourPunCallbacks
    {
        public Color loading;
        public Color connected;
        public TextMeshProUGUI connectionState;

        public void Awake()
        {
            PhotonNetwork.AutomaticallySyncScene = true;
            connectionState.color = loading;
            connectionState.text = "Loading...";
            Connect();
        }

        public override void OnConnectedToMaster()
        {
            //Join();
            connectionState.color = connected;
            connectionState.text = "Connected";

            base.OnConnectedToMaster();
        }

        public override void OnJoinedRoom()
        {
            StartGame();

            base.OnJoinedRoom();
        }

        public override void OnJoinRandomFailed(short returnCode, string message)
        {
            //Create();

            connectionState.color = loading;
            connectionState.text = "<b>ERROR:</b> Couldn't find populated room, try creating one yourself";

            base.OnJoinRandomFailed(returnCode, message);
        }

        public void Connect()
        {
            PhotonNetwork.GameVersion = "0.0.0";
            PhotonNetwork.ConnectUsingSettings();
        }

        public void Join()
        {
            PhotonNetwork.JoinRandomRoom();
        }

        public void Create()
        {
            PhotonNetwork.CreateRoom("");
        }

        public void StartGame()
        {
            if(PhotonNetwork.CurrentRoom.PlayerCount == 1)
            {
                PhotonNetwork.LoadLevel(1);
            }
        }
    }
}

In the first script, when trying to join a room created by someone else you instead join an empty room

[mint sundial]

i need go i will try thank you so much for everything

[robust sandal]

Im having a problem with this script

If i create a room in the Unity Editor and then try to join it throught he built version, i dont see the other player even appear in the editor but they joined their own room

Ive tried debugging and when trying to join a room the script doesnt even get to OnJoinedRoom

Everything broke when i tried to follow this video tutorial series https://youtu.be/VHdLauXAYZw?list=PL6PsTmPNvw0eZirNDjO8dL0Y6X0ZFGaMt

It worked before and i didnt test it inbetween

Only before and after

Please @ me if anyone can help so i see any responses

[spring crane]

Make sure to check you are on the same region

[limber holly]

hello; I try to learn how create a launcher for log in my game but I have a problem: my first scene is the login panel + character selection. I have a login script (when I enter the correct informations, I can select a character) and a NetworkManager script for Connect my player to PUN server. Then with OnJoinedRoom I load My gameScene with GameManager script.

my first player can load the scene well with good information; my second client when I login is just a clone of the first, even if In the login scene, I have the second user informations

[spring crane]

How are you storing the info? I assume all players share their info with everyone else in the room

[limber holly]

I have Sql DB, I have a script with Json for translate from PHP to C#

this part of the job is ok

Scene1 Login Window

Scene 1 character selection

And when I click enter game ( connect PUN with character information name + ID)

Don't understand how collect information to Scene 1 to Scene 2

[robust sandal]

ive region locked it through photon

but that doesnt really matter since the person joining doesnt even get to the " OnJoinedRoom "

function

[spring crane]

@limber holly So is the server returning wrong info or are you somehow overriding stuff through PUN?

[limber holly]

I think it's Somewhere in my GameManager

[robust sandal]

If anyone can help me, plz DM, Im having a connection issue

[cobalt python]

@mint sundial you forgot bracket

[mint sundial]

really wqdkşjwqfjwq

[signal snow]

hey guys, I'm trying to make an HTTP request from Unity. My code compiles but does nothing. The same request as a curl does what I want it to in Postman. Can someone please help me figure out what the problem is?

using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using System;
using System.Data;
using System.Deployment;
using System.Drawing;
using System.Management;
using UnityEngine.Networking;
using System.Web;
using System.Net;
using System.IO;

public class JogAxesPostRequest : MonoBehaviour
{
    public void ExecutePOSTJogging()
    {
        var url = "http://localhost/rw/motionsystem?action=jog";

        var httpRequest = (HttpWebRequest)WebRequest.Create(url);
        httpRequest.Method = "POST";

        httpRequest.ContentType = "application/x-www-form-urlencoded";
        httpRequest.Headers["Authorization"] = "Digest RGVmYXVsdCBVc2VyOnJvYm90aWNz";
        httpRequest.Headers["Accept"] = "application/json";
        httpRequest.Headers["Content-Type"] = "application/x-www-form-urlencoded;v=2.0";

        var data = "axis1=9000&axis2=9000&axis3=9000&axis4=9000&axis5=9000&axis6=0&ccount=0&inc-mode=Large";

        using (var streamWriter = new StreamWriter(httpRequest.GetRequestStream()))
        {
            streamWriter.Write(data);
        }

        var httpResponse = (HttpWebResponse)httpRequest.GetResponse();
        using (var streamReader = new StreamReader(httpResponse.GetResponseStream()))
        {
            var result = streamReader.ReadToEnd();
        }

        Console.WriteLine(httpResponse.StatusCode);
    }
}

Here's how the working request looks like in Postman

[eager dagger]

hello there everyone

i hope everyone is doing great

so basically i ran into 2 issues

this one

and this one

could anyone please help me right now i am in desperate healp

thanks

wait i fixed it thanks to anyone who wanted to help

i still ran into an issue

the part of script that is getting the error

the error im getting

so i fixed it

but it doesnt teleport me to the next scene

it stays on connecting

so this is the script please send me a dm on what i got wrong because ill need to sleep rn

[hearty dock]

ha anyone used Photon Bolt?
The damn wizard pops up all the time whenever scripts recompile and always gives an annoying "Are you sure you want to close the wizard" prompt every time I close it. Is there a way to stop it from doing this without digging around in their code?

[austere kiln]

I think you can get more specialized help in the "Photon Bolt" Discord

[alpine quiver]

hi, anyone here use Mirror before?

[echo garnet]

Does anyone know why my phonton create and join room isn't working?
here is the code
```public InputField createInput;
public InputField joinInput;

public void CreateRoom()
{
    PhotonNetwork.CreateRoom(createInput.text);
}
public void JoinRoom()
{
    PhotonNetwork.JoinRoom(joinInput.text);
}


public override void OnJoinedRoom()
{
    PhotonNetwork.LoadLevel("RandomFallingObjects");```
}

I get this error
CreateRoom failed. Client is on MasterServer (must be Master Server for matchmaking)but not ready for operations (State: PeerCreated). Wait for callback: OnJoinedLobby or OnConnectedToMaster.

[river meteor]

You first of all must connect to master servers, is it your whole code for connecting?

[worthy sinew]

how to load a scene after I leave a room with photon?

nofixed it

[pallid yacht]

Hello guys, I am implementing an online multiplayer Board game with Unity and Photon. I am still hesitating about using either the MVC architecture or the EC architecture. What do you think is the best architecture pattern for these types of games in Unity and Photon ? Should I separate the Visual from the logic ?

[spring crane]

If you don't really foresee a reason for separating logic from the visuals, I would just stick to the Unity way until you have practical reasons to switch.

[gleaming prawn]

I am particularly a fan of decoupling gameplay and view

Although PUN/PUN2 were designed around the unity standard coupled/mixed way...

But Photon Quantum, for example, enforces a clear separation... And in Fusion we both "encourage" it (with visuals normally being only interpolation targets), and "enforce" it with the special FixedUpdateNetwork method for tick-simulation, etc.

So, it's not a wrong decision to try to decouple IMHO. It generally pays off in the long term.

[fierce dock]

(copypasted from #💻┃code-beginner )

So... never worked with networking before, and my Unity knowledge is pretty basic so far, although I can manage C#.

Is there any tutorial for multiplayer over network? What I found so far doesn't suit my needs; I need my players to have a 'cursor' (an object used to navigate a menu) and a menu, but everyone should see their own personal menu, something like an async RPG, that when all the players made their actions/choices, the server would advance the AI.

The point is, I need to show every player a different menu+cursor, they want to navigate their own thing and the send what they want to do, and wait for other players.

Should I go for MLAPI? Mirror? Other? ...

[junior drift]

mlapi imo

[fierce dock]

Are there any tutorials/how-to's? Couldn't find much by googling around

[cunning sluice]

Is anyone using Pun2 Currently? They made an update a couple days ago that removed the place for Voice ID and I can't find anything on the internet about it

Normally it would be under App id Chat

[dense snow]

Hi I`m making a multiplayer car game using Mirror. Every Time Player one chooses his character everything works fine. When Player two chooses his character he gets only the same character like the first player. Any Ideas?

Here is my code (The set Active lines are for gui):

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using Mirror;
using TMPro;


public class CharacterSelecter : MonoBehaviour
{
    public NetworkManager manager;
    public GameObject Player;
    public string Name;
    public TextMeshProUGUI Name_Textbox;
    

    public GameObject Foxy;
    public GameObject Kaktus;
    public GameObject Otter;
    public GameObject Pinguin;
    public GameObject setActive;
    


    void Awake()
    {   
        Foxy.SetActive(false);
        Kaktus.SetActive(false);        
        Otter.SetActive(false);
        Pinguin.SetActive(false);
    }

    public void ChangeCharacter()
    {
        Foxy.SetActive(false);
        Kaktus.SetActive(false);        
        Otter.SetActive(false);
        Pinguin.SetActive(false);
        setActive.SetActive(true);

        manager.playerPrefab = Player;
        Name_Textbox.text = Name;

    }
}

[karmic frigate]

How would I go about declaring a global variable in a jslib file? I tried

mergeInto(LibraryManager.library, 
{
var test = new WebSocket("some url here");
});```
but then the webgl build kept failing and I can't find any info on this besides one link

I want to store a global websocket for the webgl application, but I'm not sure how to go about implementing it

[alpine pivot]

The way you declare a global variable in a jslib file is by using this library from this repository and forgetting about all of that JS baloney 😉
https://github.com/endel/NativeWebSocket

[stiff ridge]

That naming "NativeWebSocket" is confusing. It's not native (as in C/C++) but managed (as in using .Net ClientWebSocket) for standalone builds.

[vast forge]

I am using Firebase in my unity app, but the app crashes on android when moving from Authentication scene to Main page scene, I installed Firebase Crashlytics, and the error says java.lang.error, what does that mean?

[mint ivy]

hi, is anyone familiar with the new mlapi ? i need some help understanding where my problem comes from

[weak plinth]

What's your problem?

[mint ivy]

fixed it don't worry

[ivory cipher]

@brisk briar have you checked that your firewall isn't blocking?

[ivory cipher]

It appears to be a version mismatch between the ENet versions you are running for server and client.

That link suggests building them yourself.

Simplest suggestion is to just write both client and server using ENet-csharp

[alpine pivot]

I guess native as in native to JS in a browser, after all, there is literally no other way to do it

[gentle mirage]

as someone who failed at unity game netcode for logner than i want to admit, and trying lots of solutions, i would suggest this to anyone starting out, (its pun 2, but it gets you up and running and is actually good code, dont watch the youtubes) https://github.com/wafflehammer/FPS-Game-Tutorial

with a lil tweaking, you could even chop it down to just realtime which is what the latest unity mhalpi used as transport

just before you raise concerns such as, 'photon isn't server authoratative' first of all that's not really even the right accusation in the first place, as it default has a relay (server-ish) yoou can extend, and most importantly, if you are at this juncture, i think the bigger issue with not having this magical server side authoratative code you dream of is that you don't have a working networked game to be hacked yet lol, and unles your steve wozniak you can't stop it from happening, just mitigate things that are not ESP/passive, but all that is netcode solution agnostic

[cunning sluice]

With PUN2 when I throw an object, it'll look fine locally when it hits a surface, but on other players clients it like slides slightly and then does the physics.
Anyone know a fix for it?

[slate haven]

Yo, is anyone here experienced with photon framework?

[weak plinth]

How to run 2 games at once in editor?

[haughty heart]

You can't. You need to make a build, run that and run the editor.

[gleaming prawn]

Depends on which network tool you are using

Both fusion and quantum support running multiple clients (and server in case of fusion) from the same editor

[spring crane]

And a workaround for frameworks that don't support that: https://github.com/VeriorPies/ParrelSync

[gleaming prawn]

Which can also be achieved@with a simple symlink pointing to the project asset folder (from@another location)

Then you can open two editors

[weak plinth]

what network tool will be best? I don't want to just assign elements/variables to be synced, I just want to send Messages, I will do the rest with the scripts

and will be great to have external server

[gleaming prawn]

Well, if you just want to send messages you are saying you can do better than the tools that do a lot of features for you

[weak plinth]

I didn't said that, I just want messages

[gleaming prawn]

But in that case anyway, you are looking for a basic transport layer only

[weak plinth]

yeah

[gleaming prawn]

Steam networking, photon realtime, epic game services, etc

I mean, there is a ton more to game networking than that

[weak plinth]

but for steam networking I need to buy token for $100 if I'm not wrong

[gleaming prawn]

So unless@you have a very very simple game in mind, you may want more

[gleaming prawn]

For networking you will always have some service involved, unless you are talking about LAN only

[weak plinth]

https://github.com/Facepunch/Facepunch.Steamworks I will try this I think

[gleaming prawn]

Ye, that is for steam

Requires your game to be registered in steam

[weak plinth]

oh

that's sad I can't test it before

[weak plinth]

nvm, I can test it

you need to use 480 appid for test

[gleaming prawn]

Great

[gentle mirage]

i almost responded lol, but nah, listen to this guy, hes kinda a big deal in photon related things

[slate haven]

What guy

[gentle mirage]

the erick guy

its like zuckerburg personally adjusting your privacy settings for you i'd listen to him

[mint ivy]

hi, i'm using the new unity mlapi and i have an issue, when i try Hosting a game the host player gets assigned as Host and then as Client to that host as well, now the problem is : when the Host player stops hosting, he gets removed as Host but is still in the connected Player list. I've found someone that had exactly the same problem then me on github but the only answer is that it is a bug and it should be fixed soon, but this was posted nearly 2 years ago! Does anyone knows how i can disconnect the Client side of the host aswell?

[spring crane]

Like on the same frame or does the host stay on the list forever?

[mint ivy]

well in debugging the connected client list count in update and its always 1 after the host started once

forever

[valid totem]

Hi, having trouble finding out the best way to do this: Player spawning and respawning. Respawning is easy enough (I think) but I'm having trouble with when the player object gets spawned when they join the server. I can use the OnConnectionApproval delegate, but that only works on clients, not clients AND the server host client player object.

Should I handle spawning manually with a script instead of using MLAPI default player object? or is there something else I can override because right now the server host client player object just spawns at 0,0,0

[valid totem]

I figured out that NetworkManager.Singleton.StartHost() takes in the same parameters as the connection approval delegate like position and rotation, but still wondering if someone has insight into this and if there is a better way :)

[lyric osprey]

what is a good method of sending the active keys being pressed to the server?

[gentle mirage]

char

[dense hedge]

a bitmask

[gentle mirage]

find where windows handles the heypresses and hook that so you can get value as its loaded into a register (may not be compatible with windows defender)

[high night]

I prefer treating the player object nothing more than a connection interface for clients

When a player joins, it gets spawned automatically. It only gets destroyed when the player leaves.

And the actual character is a different object you may spawn and destroy when needed.

[spring crane]

@valid totem Probably just send a message to the server that I would like to spawn now and the server responds by adding the player or by some other message.

[valid totem]

that seems like a much better idea. Right now I'm just deleting the player object and respawning it when they respawn but I see how this could cause catastrophic errors and issues in the future when the codebase gets a lot more complicated

thank you all

<3

[robust sandal]

Every player in my game has a public int deaths and theres a manager in the scene that im wondering how i would sort every player by deaths and get the player with the least deaths

using ExitGames.Client.Photon.StructWrapping;
using Photon.Pun;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEditor;
using UnityEngine;

public class Manager : MonoBehaviourPunCallbacks
{
    public string player_prefab;
    public Transform spawnPoint;
    public static int deaths = 0;
    private bool hasSpawned = false;
    public float time;
    bool hasDetermined = false;

    List<int> l_deaths = new List<int>();
    List<Transform> l_players = new List<Transform>();

    public void Spawn()
    {
        PhotonNetwork.Instantiate(player_prefab, spawnPoint.position, spawnPoint.rotation);
        hasSpawned = true;
    }

    public void Update()
    {
        if(hasSpawned)
        {
            time += Time.deltaTime;
            if (time >= 10) //just for testing purposes
            {
                DetermineWinner();
            }
        }
    }

    void DetermineWinner()
    {
        if (hasDetermined == false)
        {
            GameObject[] players = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("Player");
            foreach (GameObject go in players)
            {
                if (!l_players.Contains(go.transform))
                    l_players.Add(go.transform);
            }

            foreach (Transform t in l_players)
            {
                if (!l_deaths.Contains(t.GetComponent<PlayerMovement>().deaths))
                    l_deaths.Add(t.GetComponent<PlayerMovement>().deaths);
            }

            l_deaths.Sort();
            int winner = l_deaths[0];

            foreach (int i in l_deaths)
                Debug.Log(i.ToString());

            foreach (Transform t in l_players)
            {
                if (t.GetComponent<PlayerMovement>().deaths == winner)
                {
                    t.GetComponent<PlayerMovement>().DisplayWin();
                }
            }
            hasDetermined = true;
        }
    }
}

    [PunRPC]
    public void DisplayWin()
    {
        Text winnerText;
        winnerText = GameObject.Find("Canvas/WinnerText").GetComponent<Text>();
        if (photonView.IsMine)
        {
            winnerText.text = "WINNER";
            Launcher.myProfile.xp += 20;
            DataLoader.SaveProfile(Launcher.myProfile);

        }
        else 
        { 
            winnerText.text = "LOSER";
            Launcher.myProfile.xp += 10;
            DataLoader.SaveProfile(Launcher.myProfile);
        }
        StartCoroutine(DisconnectUponWin());
    }

please @me with any responses / help :D

[tropic star]

Can someone explain why I am getting this error when using NetworkServer.addplayerforconnection?

Exception in MessageHandler: InvalidCastException Specified cast is not valid.   at Mirror.NetworkIdentity.SetClientOwner (Mirror.NetworkConnection conn)

[inland sand]

What's the difference?

[austere kiln]

If you click on them they have it described

But mostly on Unity PUN (Photon Unity Network) is used

[inland sand]

Can I use pun for fps games?
Tho it states that bolt is perfect for fps/tps and battle royale games

I've use photon on a normal platformer game before

It was laggy because I used transform viee instead of rigidbody view

[austere kiln]

Yeah Bolt is better for FPS, PUN is for casual multiplayer

[inland sand]

after doing some research, I am confused.

Should I use mirror or photon?
I want my game to have different rooms and more that 20players in a server. Photon only allows to 20 CCU per server, so should I create a new server? or use mirror?

mirror doesn't have any CCU limit but I'm worried if would be realtime or not

I want the server to be created at host's pc so that I don't have to worry about the server and ccu limit

Also, what networking solutions do big games like valorant, csgo, pubg, amogus use?

[brave perch]

I asked this question about 4 times and no answer to this day, but in 2021, as a beginner, where should I start for networking?

[inland sand]

Photon pun

[olive vessel]

PUN allows 20 CCU in total for a product free, but Mirror requires self hosting or peer to peer

[inland sand]

could you please explain me what's self hosting and peer to peer? Also, would the lag be same if using self hosting or pun?

[olive vessel]

Self hosting is what it is, you host dedicated servers or you let players host dedicated servers

Peer to peer is to allow players client's to host a game that people can join, the host player would have to port forward or you'd have to implement some form of relay service

[inland sand]

Among us use peer to peer?

[olive vessel]

Not sure, never decompiled their source code

Phasmophobia uses Photon PUN I believe

[inland sand]

so, I should use mirror instead of pun?

[olive vessel]

That decision is entirely yours

[inland sand]

Photon also has a service called photon bolt which is made for fps and battle royale games, so I was wondering, would the game be realtime with a little lag in mirror too?

Or is mirror just made for classic games?

[olive vessel]

Lag is a result of many factors

[inland sand]

what about server side lag? Like how much time it takes for the server to calculate the position of a player and send it to other

[olive vessel]

Again, if I run a server on a Pentium and dial-up internet, it'll lag more than a Xeon with fibre internet, I don't know Photon's specifications

It would be best for you to go and look into using both of these solutions, watch some videos and see which is right for you

[inland sand]

Alright thanks, ig I'll be using photon pun or bolt for some time and then research about other networking solutions

[robust sandal]

Every player in my game has a 'public int deaths' on them and theres a manager in the scene that im trying to sort every player by how many deaths they have and get the player with the least amount of deaths

using ExitGames.Client.Photon.StructWrapping;
using Photon.Pun;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEditor;
using UnityEngine;

public class Manager : MonoBehaviourPunCallbacks
{
    public string player_prefab;
    public Transform spawnPoint;
    public static int deaths = 0;
    private bool hasSpawned = false;
    public float time;
    bool hasDetermined = false;

    List<int> l_deaths = new List<int>();
    List<Transform> l_players = new List<Transform>();

    public void Spawn()
    {
        PhotonNetwork.Instantiate(player_prefab, spawnPoint.position, spawnPoint.rotation);
        hasSpawned = true;
    }

    public void Update()
    {
        if(hasSpawned)
        {
            time += Time.deltaTime;
            if (time >= 10) //just for testing purposes
            {
                DetermineWinner();
            }
        }
    }

    void DetermineWinner()
    {
        if (hasDetermined == false)
        {
            GameObject[] players = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("Player");
            foreach (GameObject go in players)
            {
                if (!l_players.Contains(go.transform))
                    l_players.Add(go.transform);
            }

            foreach (Transform t in l_players)
            {
                if (!l_deaths.Contains(t.GetComponent<PlayerMovement>().deaths))
                    l_deaths.Add(t.GetComponent<PlayerMovement>().deaths);
            }

            l_deaths.Sort();
            int winner = l_deaths[0];

            foreach (int i in l_deaths)
                Debug.Log(i.ToString());

            foreach (Transform t in l_players)
            {
                if (t.GetComponent<PlayerMovement>().deaths == winner)
                {
                    t.GetComponent<PlayerMovement>().DisplayWin();
                }
            }
            hasDetermined = true;
        }
    }
}

And here is the function of making the player win

    [PunRPC]
    public void DisplayWin()
    {
        Text winnerText;
        winnerText = GameObject.Find("Canvas/WinnerText").GetComponent<Text>();
        if (photonView.IsMine)
        {
            winnerText.text = "WINNER";
            Launcher.myProfile.xp += 20;
            DataLoader.SaveProfile(Launcher.myProfile);

        }
        else 
        { 
            winnerText.text = "LOSER";
            Launcher.myProfile.xp += 10;
            DataLoader.SaveProfile(Launcher.myProfile);
        }
        StartCoroutine(DisconnectUponWin());
    }

Please @me with any responses so i see them :)

Nevermind i got it working haha, the DisplayWin function just got called for everyone but i fixed it :)

[prime dawn]

Uhm, so I have aproblem. Yesterday I had an error in the console that I read I can fix by updating photon. So I did update photon and the error dissapeared. The only problem now is that my in game chat suddenly stopped working. I've entered the correct appid and etc. any ideas?

[prime dawn]

Problem solved, I had to make a new appid for the chat

[dry egret]

Hey guys, just a quick question, how hard is it to get into multiplayer? I just think I might not be ready for it yet... Are there any key concepts that you'd need to know before jumpin in? Thanks

[robust sandal]

Go for it, learn by doing, just if you already have a project you want to try to make multiplayer know you're most likely going to break it and its a lot more difficult to make multiplayer afterwards instead of going for it from the start

[dry egret]

Yes, I'm a bit experience with Unity, I've been using it since 2019 or so, but I'm unsure what Multiplayer library to use.. PlayFab, Photon, there were some other that got outdated. What do you recommend I start with?

[cerulean sorrel]

I have a maybe silly question, but when using MLAPI, is there some reason to not call a serverRpc on the server itself?
Does this cause it to send another network request?

[cerulean sorrel]

Specifically, in the golden path example, in the move function, it seperates out the server check for setting position and transform from the in the hello world player, but removing that and only calling the serverrpc instead seems to function correctly.

I can't seem to get the network profiler working for it either, so it's hard to tell if any packets are being sent.

[olive vessel]

https://docs-multiplayer.unity3d.com/docs/advanced-topics/message-system/execution-table

[cerulean sorrel]

@olive vessel Perfect, thanks so much.

[olive vessel]

I hope that helps, it says it queues them so I can only assume it does not go out to come back in

[cerulean sorrel]

Yeah, it's not 100% clear on that, but I'm assuming it's an issue with some memory allocation since it looks like the framework injected code would cause it to be sent on the loopback, which makes sense, but also means I do need to keep them seperate I think.

I mean, it functions as expected, but yeah, it's gonna queue and be slightly slower as well as spinning up the network writer so, I'll just handle the diff manually. It'd be kinda nice if it just detected that, but I also understand lol.

[versed socket]

In a general multiplayer game scenario where the game contains a library of many RPG items (scriptableobjects), how can I create a runtime database of these items for network references via unique ID?

Say I send an RPC to communicate that a player has picked up X item.

I am tempted to use resources folders to automate the database generation but it seems to be discouraged

[spring crane]

@versed socket If your item SOs are going to always be in memory anyway, it probably doesn't matter, especially if you then don't reference the prefab directly, but by AssetReference or something equivalent.

[spring crane]

It's pretty trivial to connect and send packets around using a transport, but the architecture on top of that can be quite time consuming. For high quality networking it's likely not enough to just send state and be done with it.

[echo garnet]

I'm making active 2d ragdolls but when I connect to a server (with photon) the ragdoll just breaks and flies off

anyone know whats going on?

Do I need a certain component on each ragdoll piece? for photon maybe like the photon transform view classic?

[gentle mirage]

you have a nested hierarchy of rigs on the active ragdoll?

i leveraged photon for my 3d active ragdoll game, and my netcode is fantastic now, after spending a long time on it to the point i lost sight of my games purpose lol

[wary gull]

If I have a server scene, and a client scene in my unity project, using Mirror, how do I call a function from the server scene if the client has no visibility of it?

[gentle mirage]

you talkin bout the concept of a remote procedure call?

[wary gull]

Basically, yes... but all examples of this I've seen it say [Command] <some function> and then the actual code to execute is contained within that method/function on the Client... I do not want that visible to the client.

What I want it to be like is;
[Command] CmdDoStuff() {
HeresAnotherFunctionorMethod(stuff to send)
}

and then in the server files, that 'HeresAnotherFunctionorMethod' has its own code chunk that's private to the server

[gentle mirage]

but how you gonna run code if you dont have code to be run

its not magic, its netcode (smoke and mirrors)

[wary gull]

lol, that's exactly my point. I want the server to understand what that function/method is, and call it, when its told to call it

the client doesn't need to know what the code is

[gentle mirage]

if you say server autoratative determinalistic loud enough over here, nobody can tell that everything works more or less the same lag comp is stupid if you raycast cause it solves itself and rollback is 100% retarded and absolutely a terrible idea except for nickeloadean based fighting games (ok fighting games, but you have to live with the consequences)

additionally, no matter how many buzzwords your 'server' has, can't stop esp autoaim or you know, all the popular, passive cheats

you can add a bunch of latency tho, so thats pretty dope

[wary gull]

I need to contain a password for a mysql account that's reading a local configuration file with the password being encrypted... the encryption needs to be done on the server only.

[gentle mirage]

uhm, you need ssl and possibly leverage some windows api stuff if you REALLY cant have user type it in themselves

[wary gull]

users won't know what the password is

[gentle mirage]

so you have a master password, for all the things, and you need your clients to login with privledges to this and i'm curious what you think the outcome will be

[wary gull]

alas, that side isn't the problem... it is literally just the concept of how do I tell the server, from a client, to run a method that the server knows exists, that the client doesn't know exists

[gentle mirage]

sql injection?

[wary gull]

have you ever played Arma3?

[gentle mirage]

yes

battle eye is the gold standard

[wary gull]

ok, there are various mods on arma 3 that allow for mysql data capture, to "save" player progress

[gentle mirage]

why does that have to be a master account for everyone, i'm certain it uses individual users account

[wary gull]

on the server, there is a configuration file, it reads and writes the mysql data

it has a single account

[gentle mirage]

and it probably piggybacks off a third party auth

for everyone, in the world, with full read write

[wary gull]

the clients, people playing arma3, connect to a server, and they literally just send a single function to the server, and say "run this function"... which is the mysql function... the data is stored

that's all I'm trying to emulate

server is the only machine that should have access to its own local mysql database

[gentle mirage]

like, a post request?

[wary gull]

it reads, it writes, it just relays the information

yeah, sure... but how do I get the client, to tell the server, to run a c# method?

[gentle mirage]

system.www

i mean

[wary gull]

why would the game file be hosting a www instance?

and how would mirror interact with that?

[gentle mirage]

i thought it was an sql server you wanted to talk to directly

as you just stated

not a c sharp method

[wary gull]

no, its the game server, which has its mysql instance running on it... I want ONLY the game server to read/write it, on request by the clients

so how do I tell the server, to run a method that only it knows, when that code has to be on the client?

[gentle mirage]

so tell the server to run a method that then runs the sql query?

[wary gull]

like the reason I originally left out the mysql stuff is because you've zoned in on that being the solution, it isn't lol...
I need to know how to run a method from the server, when the client makes that initial call

like client clicks Save > Save is passed to server > Server runs the save function > Data is saved in mysql > response is returned that data is saved > Save state is passed back to client > client is happy

[gentle mirage]

why not player prefs

[wary gull]

huh?

[gentle mirage]

just store it locally in player prefs

[wary gull]

I can't store it locally... if the game has ultimately enough funding, it's intended to be hosted on a cloud platform without local data

[gentle mirage]

ahah, and here is the most important question in netcode

before you try to solve your hacking/scaling problem, your number one priority should be to get the worse possible hacking/scaling problem possible

[wary gull]

which as it stands, is not being able to send a command over the network manager to call a function that the client can't see

without that possibility, I can't build the rest of the game

so right back to the beginning of my question....
How do I do that? All examples online simply show clientRPC and Command etc with all of the code clearly visible in the same files...
Yet everyone recommends splitting server and client into two separate builds so that you can't see the contents of the server code

and thus, my issue

[gentle mirage]

how do you have any working netcode if you cant call methods on other clients/server (no difference really in the means in which you do so right)

i mean, do you want to call a method on the server, that doesn't exist on the client? no problem there right?

yhou can build a separate server build

ask for method by name

[wary gull]

Yeah, I want to do that exactly, but there's absolutely no examples of htat

[gentle mirage]

how do you normally call methods on other computers

[wary gull]

I don't know... I'm learning, hence the blue name

[gentle mirage]

oh i ddin't know they did the racism name struff why am i green, isn't that more less experience than blue lol

oh i picked this

[wary gull]

Yeah, I'm just student, because I'm learning

[gentle mirage]

yea i'm not a game dev, its accurate, unity makes me feel like i need a shower

i can code tho pretty aite

[wary gull]

I can code normal applications, but I don't write applications that network multiple machines together to constantly exchange data

I also have no experience in web dev either

[gentle mirage]

same here, game netcode is very strange, if it makes sense, your probably going down the wrong path

i use photon personally, after going through mirror as well as unity mhalapi

[wary gull]

but alas, that's diverging off topic...
When I write a function on my client operations script file, and tell it its a command to be ran on the server, and then reference the function by name, it just gives me a syntax problem saying it doesn't know what that function is

[gentle mirage]

i tried it, ditched it, tried everythign else, ended up back on oit

[wary gull]

but I expect that, the client isn't supposed to know what it is

but I can't run it, because it doesn't know what it is, and that's my problem

[gentle mirage]

you should be sending a string and using reflection if i'm not mistaken

or like

invoke("methodname")

[wary gull]

ah ok, what's reflection?

[gentle mirage]

reflection is like yo u know that variable thats like private? i don't care

[wary gull]

ah ok

[gentle mirage]

now

the thing about sending invoke("methodname")

across the internet

is i really want to play your game

for science

when it comes out

[wary gull]

tbh, from what I recall actually... "BIS_fnc_MP" that was a method that basically was used to call other methods

so it'll be the invoke I need

champion... thank you 🙂

[wary gull]

sure, give me 5 years hahaha

[gentle mirage]

i spent way too long on netcode, now not to brag here, but my netcode is dope af now, its just like, i completely lost sight of my game and any purpose or direction it had

[wary gull]

well mine will be utterly terrible to begin with, but hopefully it could be optimised later on down the line

[gentle mirage]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1013264620

[wary gull]

lol I don't know whether to be impressed or disgusted

[gentle mirage]

typically people say things like wat is this insane fever dream, i'd go with taht

[gray pond]

MIRROR 44.0.2 IS LIVE ON THE ASSET STORE
Download: https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/network/mirror-129321
ChangeLog: https://mirror-networking.gitbook.io/docs/general/changelog

[still hare]

Nice!

[echo garnet]

Wdym?

[gentle mirage]

my game being active ragdoll didn't like, fall into any tutorials or assets or prefabs or existing stuff out there and i had to do it custom. i learned a lot, my netcode is really really good (33 bytes and a bool to sync 15 rigs) but like, i lost sight of my game and its purpose entirely

[echo garnet]

Wait you said you used photon?

[gentle mirage]

yaa

one nice thing with photon is you can use it at a low level if desired, and at that point its as efficient as you are you know

like, the unity mhalpi thing they put out most recently used photon for transport

[echo garnet]

quick question tho

how did you make your ragdolls not fall apart

in multiplayer?

[gentle mirage]

configurable joints

and also custom drag/angular drag handlers along with inertial tensor jobbers

[wary gull]

@gentle mirage Invoke doesn't seem to be acknowledged as anything I can call under either monobehaviour or networkbehaviour 🤔

[gentle mirage]

u gotta use an alley ooper method the sme way your currently doing netcode stuffs but have it invoke thje argument

[echo garnet]

my ragdolls work

but when they connect in a server

they like break and fall apart

like they work normally

[gentle mirage]

ur usin photon pun 2?

[twilit finch]

I'm using a NetworkAnimator component (Mirror). At the start of my game it throws this error:

Animator is not playing an AnimatorController
UnityEngine.Animator:get_layerCount()

The related game object is deactivated at the start of my game. Will this cause the issue?

[inland sand]

I'm asking this again cuz I'm dumb, I want the server to be created on host pc and no CCU limit, how can I do that?

I used photon pun but it has CCU limit of 20 and works as dedicated server

But I want my server to be instantiated wehn the host creates room

[alpine pivot]

That's called (player hosting/ listen server) you'd want to use Mirror or MLAPI for that

[inland sand]

Ight, thanks

[gleaming prawn]

or photon fusion

[cedar cloak]

Question about networking: I need to develop a simple Rock Paper Scissors game where 2 people in que gets paired and play a game, can I do this with p2p?

[olive vessel]

Peer to peer is just a way of connecting people, so yes

[cedar cloak]

Im not an expert on networking, I basically dont want to rent a server since I guess that is not needed for a game that simple, am I right?

[spring crane]

@cedar cloak @inland sand Just note the details when it comes to hosting a server behind a network firewall. Average player will have a hard time with port forwarding.

[olive vessel]

Photon PUN is probably not a bad choice for your Rock Paper Scissors game

20 free CCU

Rooms etc

[cedar cloak]

I already used him in previous projects and 20 CCU is too few

[echo garnet]

Yup

[olive vessel]

20 CCU is too little? You must be having some good success then

Someone once did a breakdown, of how CCU translates to MAU, and you need thousands of MAU before you start hitting even 1k CCU

[cobalt python]

Hi guys, I am using pun! Someone said that using rpc buffered is a very bad idea, is it?

[shut topaz]

Hey all I have been looking around at various networking solutions. As far as multiplayer games go Unity has had the general reputation of not being so good in that regard. Realistically how hard is it to get networking right in Unity vs unreal? I know Rust and Escape from tarkov are multiplayer unity games but each of those has had issues and I believe tarkov atleast made its own custom networking.

[river meteor]

it depends what you gonna do. Buffered RPC sends all past messages whenever player was not in the game

[echo garnet]

Would I need a certain component on every gameobject in the ragdoll?

[gray pond]

Unity's own networking is pretty bad right now. 3rd party solutions are better, such as Photon or Mirror, depending on your needs, what type of game it is, CCU expectations, etc.

[echo garnet]

When i use photon pun my active ragdolls break like this anyone know why?

do I need a certain photon component on the gameobjects of the ragdoll?

[echo garnet]

How do I also make everything in photon server side?

Like spawning?

[inland sand]

Photo network.instantiate

[echo garnet]

I knew that

[cedar cloak]

Does photon have dedicated servers? If the master leaves a room, does the master pass to the other player?

[lyric osprey]

how would one go about networking charcontroller height?

[limber holly]

Hello, I working on 2D mmo, I wondering about the most efficient way to build the character or enemies ?
Currently, I instantiate Player prefab with:

1. main script, controller script, scriptdata for DB character informations)
2. The UI ( statut windows, skills, maps etc)
   Now I scripting the combat system, then I want to create another GameObject Child of PlayerPrefab with the character skills ( graphic effect, templates etc). I wonder if this way, my player is not to eavy for the server ? Is it better to Instantiate each time the spell from the game folder ?

[inland sand]

Why are there very little tutorial on making fps with unity?
Please suggest some good tutorial/playlist on how to make one with mirror (I've some experience with photon)

[olive vessel]

Even Brackeys has a multiplayer FPS tutorial, granted for UNet but still, demonstrates a lack of research if you believe there are "very little"

[inland sand]

But it's so old

[olive vessel]

Doesn't mean no skills are transferable. I bet there are a tonne of tutorials for FPS games, and a tonne for Mirror, so then it's a matter of understanding the content and applying it.

Ofc UNet is gone, but you can see how the processes worked with UNet and try and bring that forwards to Mirror

[inland sand]

Ight thanks

[weak plinth]

VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION, in photon unity networking (PUN)
if I make a photonview with a transferable ownership.. would photonview.ismine refer to the new owner????
thank you in advance

[inland sand]

you're welcome in advance

[ornate zinc]

Hey everyone. Can someone help me out with a weird issue in UnityWebRequest, the downloadprogress keeps returning -1, not finding any doc about this behaviour

Nvm, it held the webrequest and did not start it before hand...

[remote rock]

Hello, Moving this here as general code might be the wrong spot.
I am curious if anyone has used MLAPI with Steamworks.facepunch and would recommend using the SteamP2P transport or just using the Unet transport?

[remote rock]

Yes, the new owner would get a true for ismine.

[weak plinth]

I see a lot of videos and people talking about mlapi , is it better than photon ? and thank you

[remote rock]

I moved to MLAPI since it does not require a server for players to connect to. (I cant afford that)
I want my players to host the game and others connect to them.
This works fine for smaller games or games that are ok with one person having a lot better ping than the rest.

Pun may be able to work P2P but I did not see an option for it.

[weak plinth]

I thought pun provided free servers for games with a limited amount of players

[remote rock]

They do. but that only helps for up to 20 players I think.
I want to end up putting my game on steam and the hope is more than 20 people would play. 🙂

[weak plinth]

oh... they mean 20 player for the whole game. ... not per match 💀

[remote rock]

This is what I got out of reading it. Not 20 per server/game, 20 total

[weak plinth]

I understood the exact opposite

I am almost done with the game

[remote rock]

I could be wrong but thats the reason I went to MLAPI.

I used PUN as well for a while and had to restart after reading into it

[weak plinth]

do you have a resource for mlapi? like videos and such

if you dont mind sharing of course

[remote rock]

Just youtube and personal trial and error

https://docs-multiplayer.unity3d.com/

They have a trial game you can download in Unity and read over there code

[weak plinth]

thank you

[olive vessel]

It is 20 CCU

Concurrent users

[weak plinth]

what does that mean

[olive vessel]

People playing at the same time

However, to have 20CCU, you need more than 100MAU

[remote rock]

Okay, so I did read it right

[olive vessel]

Because not every player, will play at the same time

[weak plinth]

oh I am reading it now

💀

@remote rock one last question if you dont mind, since you already have started with mlapi , is it majorly built on events?

[turbid tusk]

How to bypass CORS for unity webgl builds?
We are only getting 2 out of 9 response headers in unity webGL build but all 9 appear in Unity-Editor.

[placid oak]

the prize of having photon is not a reason why you go out with empty hands... mlapi wasnt designed for rooms ( like 5v5 in league of legends thats what i mean with rooms) ... at its best its good for coop games or games wiith few scenes as the traffic scales exponential with scene management on

[remote rock]

Its very similar to PUN with wording but the NetworkManager needs every networked object manually added to the list.
I would recommend watching a few videos on Starting up with MLAPI - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJMXv5J4wf4

[olive vessel]

If you're not hosting servers, your players will need to port forward. Or you'll need a relay service or a punchthrough technique

[remote rock]

My goal is to have 4 players playing in a single scene at any given point.
There is no other scene as the same scene will refresh in a sense.

[placid oak]

do you have multiple groups of 4 players

[remote rock]

Not in the same game no

[gleaming prawn]

more like 400DAU, 8000MAU

[placid oak]

so you have at MAX 4 players AND all of them are on the same Scene

[weak plinth]

@placid oak @remote rock with mlapi can I make my own server and make the game run on it?

[remote rock]

Yes

[verbal lodge]

yes

[olive vessel]

Absolutely, just read the thing again online, incredible how it scales really

[placid oak]

THEN go for mlapi definetly

[olive vessel]

If you've got 8k MAU, well done you

You've made it somewhat

[gleaming prawn]

to get 100 ccu, you need around 2000 dau, and 40k mau (50k + downloads)

And MLAPI for self host you still need a solution for punch (as port forwarding is only for nerds, really)

[weak plinth]

well damn I have the same thing.. only 4 players per scene... now this is scary.. i have to redo everything in mlapi

[placid oak]

if you reach THAT point ... you dont have to worry anymore about the photon costs

[remote rock]

Have you used Steamworks.facepunch with MLAPI before?

[gleaming prawn]

No, have not... It does work

If the game is Steam, sure... It works

If the game is steam only it is a valid option for p2p

[placid oak]

if you have like league of legends :
per scene 10 players and multiple versions of them => you need photon

1 Scene with players on it AND all players are on it => MLAPI

[remote rock]

Okay, this is what im currently doing but came here to ask if the SteamP2P transport is worth using or if I should stick with the Unet transport.

[weak plinth]

in the game.. I have 4 players, a unique prefab for each of them... and everything happens in 1 scene

[verbal lodge]

Use SteamP2P if you want players to connect directly to a hosting client. Use UNet if you want your own servers.

[placid oak]

is it possible to have 4 players play together
and then another 4 player groupe comes and they play also together

[remote rock]

Okay, that makes sense. and I do.
I looked around and tried a list of things last night but could not find a way to get the steamuser info.
Have you used the facepunch before?

Its different from the normal facepunch functions as SteamClient.(anything here) does not yield the same results

[remote rock]

from what I understand this would be fine for MLAPI. as long as they all play on the same scene

[weak plinth]

sorry i may have said it wrong i will rephrase what i said ... in my game.. each player uses his own PC... they connect to one room... in the room there are only 4 players playing, each of them controls a unique prefab

[weak plinth]

no in the room there are ONLY 4 PLAYERs

[placid oak]

are multiple rooms possible where each of them "keeps" 4 players

if so then mlapi is a shot into your foot

you can make a giant work around with mlapi but it wasnt designed to have rooms which are independent to each other

[remote rock]

So wait....
In my case there will be 4 players playing all on one scene. However, other people can play the same game but with there own group of 4. Completely independent from the other group of 4.

Would this be to much for mlapi

[placid oak]

yes and mlapi sucks at doing that

[remote rock]

Sh*t

[olive vessel]

Mirror can do that can't it?

NetworkRoomManager and NetworkRoomPlayer?

https://mirror-networking.gitbook.io/docs/components/network-match-checker

Ah, Network Match Checker

[placid oak]

yes but why code it urself instead of using for example photon which patch the room management regurarly ... YES photon will cost you something at some point but you will have a higher cost buying someone who patches your room management

[olive vessel]

Oh no I agree

If you've got 50k downloads, you're grand

[remote rock]

What would be the best option then for up to 4 players to connect to a single host. I am not able to pay for a server and my game would be fine with a player being the host.

[olive vessel]

The cost is tuppence

[olive vessel]

Then you need a relay service (Steam), punchthrough or just tell the players to port forward or host a community server

[placid oak]

photon with ccu for 20 is free .... above they calculated that

[weak plinth]

I am sorry I dont get what you mean by rooms that are independent to each other

[olive vessel]

I really need a good Photon tutorial series actually...

[placid oak]

ok lets say you have a scene with a temple in the middle and with 4 players on it trying to capture it

now 4 other players come and want to play also capture the temple ...

now the problem happens the first scene is ful so your server needs to create a new one where the other 4 players can play capture the temple

the first map and the second map now dont know anything from each other

[remote rock]

And this would need PUN?

[weak plinth]

@placid oak no that is not possible , in the scene only 4 players are allowed NOTHING MORE there are no multiple maps or anything .... think about it as a cs-go match, there is only a specific number of players allowed... if others want to play the game, they have to create their own match

[placid oak]

"the first map and the second map now dont know anything from each other" this is where mlapi fails as EVERY scene which is in the network is known by everyplayer

[placid oak]

they have to create their own match <== this is your "room" or "the second map" in my example...

[remote rock]

Damn I thought I new what I was doing.....
So MLAPI is unable to handle multiple rooms? Even if they are completely independent and running on user machines?

[placid oak]

you can do it yourself with mirror or other network managers ... i use photon as they give me so much for a low prize...

if i would do the room management myself it would cost me mmuch more instead of just buying it from photon ... AND photon is free for 20 ccu

[placid oak]

well no...

if your scene is in the registered scenes then EVERYONE will update it

if it isnt in the registered scene mlapi will ignore it but then only the local user can see it

[weak plinth]

wait .. if another room needs to be instantiated .. can't the other 4 players pick a "server" on the computer of one of them if we're using mlapi?

well damn

[placid oak]

yes so a user starts an mlapi server on his pc but with any security this is a catastrophy

[cedar cloak]

Question on Photon

how can I select a different map(scene) during the room creation?

[weak plinth]

so unless I want to make my own dedicated server .... pun is the choice

if I may ask you, is mlapi better than mirror?? IF WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR OWN DEDICATED SERVER

[olive vessel]

No

In Mirror, you can have lots of people in one scene, who can't even see each other

So one server can do many games

[placid oak]

(i didnt make too much with mirror tbh)

as far as i know mirror is a low level api for networking => you can do ANYTHING yourself

mlapi is a midlevel api => work with what you got and you get alot but it has to fit

[remote rock]

Okay, in my case the players go to a lobby and then they ready up and all move to the new scene. No older scenes are used.
Then if another 4 people what to play they connect to a new host/player and a new lobby is created just for the new players.
The first and second group have nothing to do with each other.

[placid oak]

https://doc.photonengine.com/en-us/pun/v2/demos-and-tutorials/pun-basics-tutorial/game-scenes

that is what i wanted too for my game and thats it

that tutorial series

photon has pre implemented functions like "joinOrCreateRoom"

like you dont have to handle the rooms by youself

photon takes alot of work there

mlapi wasnt meant to do that

[light ginkgo]

Hey, I have a problem with the Photon View and the Photon Rigidbody View, I am making a VR game and when I pick up an object, it does not sync to the other players?

[placid oak]

photon has pre implemented functions like "joinOrCreateRoom" => here the user sends a request to the server that they need a new map and the server will create one for them

atleast you can implement it like that

[weak plinth]

@placid oak thank you a lot man this has been VERY HELPFUL

i deleted and rewrote it cause it wasn't a reply

[weak plinth]

that's what i am doing exactly but from what i got from @placid oak the new room would still be affected by the older one

even though it is a different match

[placid oak]

yes as the scene management with the registered scenes must be available on each client

so in theory that IS possible

=> you create rooms
=> players dont see each other

but you are syncing ANY room ... and ANY scene even your match isnt there going on

that means your network traffic increases per user exponential

which is a catastrophy

[remote rock]

hmmm, okay. So MLAPI is really only for a single game/room all together?
You are unable to have more than one group playing the game at one time??

[placid oak]

as far as i got into it YES
and i got almost my game ready xD

[remote rock]

dang... Is this a temporary thing for MLAPI or is this the goal?

[placid oak]

you can read in many forums that mlapi isnt "the best option"

[placid oak]

as far as i read and saw multiple times was that unity wanted to push the rework of mlapi as much as tehy could and now its more like a "secondary" problem

idk if thats true... but i only play games with rooms and matches so i dont want mlapi as the room management is like that

[remote rock]

I restarted once because of PUN costs and now I need to go back 😦
How do indie games pay for servers like PUN? I imagine small games only stay alive for a short while and then die.

[olive vessel]

As someone said, 100CCU is a massive amount of MAU

[olive vessel]

Here

[placid oak]

lets say yougot 1k players and 10 of them play a 10 euro bundle

you paid for the 100 ccu on photon ( 95 euros )

then you allready positive....

and above you can read i dont remeber the number like a few thousands of users can login per month

ye you need 1000 users where 10 pay but you can have 40k per month

=> photon prize is more than fair

[olive vessel]

Steam has over a billion accounts, but only around 120 million MAU in 2020

[remote rock]

I am thinking the long term since its a monthly payment and I only plan to make my game a single cost.
There price is fine but im not looking to make bank with this game lol

[olive vessel]

$95 for 12 months

[remote rock]

Oh wait... what

I thought it was per month....

[olive vessel]

That wouldn't make sense...

Because 500 CCU is $95 per month

[remote rock]

Yea, I guess I looked at the next one and got scared

I need new glasses

[olive vessel]

So if 100CCU is 50k downloads, 500CCU is a quarter million downloads

50k is fantastic really, 250k is incredible

Unless ofc, you make a game that becomes a fad, like Phasmophobia did

[remote rock]

Yea I dont think that will happen. but fingers crossed right 🙂
I like that PUN has a breather so it will let people play even if its over 100 and you pay later

Have you used PUN with Steamworks.facepunch?

[olive vessel]

I've never really tried much with PUN, but I'd love to learn how to use it

[remote rock]

Okay, Im sure there are videos or things out there.
Thank you for answering all my questions 🙂

[light ginkgo]

Hey, I have a problem with the Photon View and the Photon Rigidbody View, I am making a VR game and when I pick up an object, it does not sync to the other players?

[remote rock]

I had a similar issue a while ago and it ended up being a parenting issue. Not sure if thats it in your case

[light ginkgo]

Ok, i'll try that.

[weak plinth]

seriously people i was terrified .. thank you for answering my questions

[weak plinth]

I can recommend you some play lists

[remote rock]

Thank you, and sorry for pushing you in the wrong direction.

[weak plinth]

nothing to apologize for , you pushed me to what you think is the right option

[light ginkgo]

It worked! Thanks.

[remote rock]

Cool, glad that worked 🙂

[light ginkgo]

Also, noted thing, no putting Photon View's on Objects with Renderers, because apparently that doesn't work.

[turbid tusk]

How to get all response headers with UnityWebRequest.Post request for Unity WebGL?

[jovial pike]

what is the problem?

[raw osprey]

@jovial pike your class should inherit from MonoBehaviourPunCallbacks, not MonoBehaviour if you want to override pun callbacks

[jovial pike]

thx 😄

[jovial pike]

i have another question

I changed my Unity Project Version and now this shows up

but it doesnt cause errors or so

[raw osprey]

Collaborate is technically a package I think, so see if you can update / remove (if you're not using it) it from the package manager

[jovial pike]

thx ❤️

[river meteor]

parenting works perfectly when you parent it on other player scenes too

[jovial pike]

Hi, I have a 2D Game with 2 Players which i can controll with "w,a,s,d" and "i,j,k,l". is it possible to make a multiplayer with photon for this game?

In all tutorials are just one Player and the other is spawned automatically.

but my game is slightly different

[jovial pike]

can I let the host be the left Player and the joined Player is the right Player.

[river meteor]

I dont understandy you

[jovial pike]

Im using Photon to make a multiplayer game

but idk how i can make that the joined player can controll the right character in the video

[placid oak]

when the controller makes input he requests from the server to move that character

[river meteor]

just

firstly you must have added Photon View for your player

then in Awake function getcomponent<photonview>(); to some object

and then where you have your code with getting input

check if(PV.IsMine)
{
// get my input
}

[jovial pike]

thx :D:D:D:D

[river meteor]

also remember about disabling any other camera when !PV.IsMine

in scene

[jovial pike]

i just have one

[river meteor]

yeah but when you have two players on scene you have two cameras 😉

[placid oak]

is there a possible way to make photon view + cinemachine cam?

[jovial pike]

ouh

[river meteor]

I think it is possible but I didnt try it

[placid oak]

mybe cine can register the view as cam to put the brain on it

[river meteor]

but I consider that it must be handled same way as legacy one

try

[jovial pike]

this is the script for the right player

and he got his Photon View Component

both player have their own script

[jovial pike]

is that a problem?

[river meteor]

you tested it?

the pv object is already set to pv component?

when the game is starting?

[jovial pike]

yes

[river meteor]

so it should work

[jovial pike]

i will test it now

[river meteor]

okey

[jovial pike]

is it ok if i dont have a lobby where i can create a room?

it connects directly to the game scene

[jovial pike]

from the loading scene

[river meteor]

yeah for debugging purposes why not

[jovial pike]

ok...

then it doesnt work

it doesnt update on the second window

[river meteor]

what is not updating?

[jovial pike]

both players

[river meteor]

ahh because your players are rigidbodies

you also need add to them photon rigidbody view

[jovial pike]

ouhh

thx

photon view and the photon rigidbody 2d view?

or only the rigidbody one?

im trying both

it doesnt work 😦

do i have to check one of these?

i think all

i will try it

[river meteor]

it strange that your positions are not synced

okey so you have only one camera per scene which players are not controlling

your players are PREFABS instantiated by PhotonNetwork.Instantiate, right?

[jovial pike]

nope

[river meteor]

So there is your problem

[jovial pike]

that was my problem

[river meteor]

make two spawnpoints

and instantiate them on game start

[jovial pike]

thats a good idea

[wintry mantle]

hey everyone! Curious about how difficult it is to create a multiplayer co-op game with cross-play between platforms. Let's say one player is on Windows/Steam and the other is on a Switch or ps5. Is it terribly difficult to allow those players to play together online? I've been doing some research and haven't come across a straight forward answer, so I'm not sure of the feasability or best practices on creating something like this

[lyric osprey]

what is a good method of rotating a bone locally?

[wary gull]

Anyone else had issues with mirror since the update?

[jovial pike]

i cant move my player when he is a prefab

[spring crane]

The answer to that between WebGL/mobile/desktop is that it's pretty trivial, but can't say for sure when it comes to console details. Technically it shouldn't really be an issue.
You can introduce more variables if you rely on some sort of determinism, but I assume we are just talking about the networking part itself.

[wintry mantle]

Thank you! I'm still a noob when it comes to networking but just glad to hear that it's possible and even better that it's pretty trivial. Really appreciate your input!

[jovial pike]

it works without the if(pv.IsMine)

but i need that

[jovial pike]

i think the Photon view Doesnt work as a prefab

[teal obsidian]

You understand that you need a pro license to even build for consoles right?

other than that, I mean it really shouldn't be hard

[wintry mantle]

Thank you! Financing the project won't be much of an issue for me, it's the knowledge that is the tough part

[teal obsidian]

I mean yeah it really shouldn't be that hard at all

it's just sending/receiving data over the internet

which all of them can do

[wintry mantle]

to actually get them to play together, is that just using a lobby code and then a friends list in the game? (for an example)

[teal obsidian]

all libraries are different

so your networking library will need to support consoles

if they do, then yeah cross play won't be difficult

[wintry mantle]

okay thanks, that gives me a very clear path of what to research next. I wasn't sure if Mirror would cut it or if I'd need Photon or something

[jovial pike]

Can that be my problem ?

Idk what to do

[spring crane]

PhotonViews do work in prefabs assuming you use them after they have been instantiated

Make sure to use PhotonNetwork.Instantiate

[jovial pike]

Thx

[jovial pike]

So i just have to put „PhotonNetwork.Instantiate“ in my script

Do i have to say in which Player ?

[spring crane]

The client that calls it owns it by default

https://doc.photonengine.com/en-us/pun/current/gameplay/instantiation

[jovial pike]

thx

[river meteor]

Sorry I went to sleep, just do PhotonNetwork.Instantiate in your network manager script

for ex OnJoinRoom callback

[cedar cloak]

Is this how Photon PUN architecture works? Are masters also clients?

[spring crane]

One of the clients indeed is the master(client), but all clients connect through a relay, not directly to each other.

Peer to peer over relay. Client <-> Relay <-> Client

[gleaming prawn]

and any peer can create an object and send data updates for it

so technically you can write a game putting some more logic on the "master", but it's not really designed for that

If you want a purist client-server netcode, with an accurate tick-logic, client side prediction, lag compensation, etc, go for photon fusion.

[inland sand]

If I watch uNet tutorial then I won't be getting any problem using mirror right?

[spring crane]

By now there should be Mirror specific content. The concepts will likely largely carry over, but Mirror has been in dev for a while since the UNet fork days.

[cedar cloak]

PUN: Is there a way to reach the Player GameObject by using actor number or ID?

[gleaming prawn]

only if you store this mapping yourself

an actor can spawn many many objects

[cedar cloak]

How do I store it? Can I use the Player var when OnPlayerEnter method occurs?

[gleaming prawn]

you can add "self" game object to a dictionary you store somewhere from a script Start

so every client knows which objects are spanwed by the others via their actor IDs

key is id, value is the object

anywhere you want

This is really about your own code, not something particular to pun, etc

[cedar cloak]

I just need to assign the 2 player gameobjcets to the master and from them I can sync to the client I guess

[gleaming prawn]

you probably don't need tht

but do however you feel more comfortable with

[cedar cloak]

I already store actor and ID of players

really strange I cant reach the Player go by using one of these two infos through photon

but yes, maybe I dont need that, I can compare just the IDs when calling an RPC

[gleaming prawn]

the point is this is not a 1-1 mapping (unless your own game treats it like that)

each player can spawn as many GOs as he wants, it's your code...

so it is not the role o pun to store that data

[cedar cloak]

ok

[cedar cloak]

So 'im having a little issue: The Player script is trying to call an RPC from the Master's Game manager script (its in the scene not on player), it has the [RPC] tag but I still get the error:
"PhotonView with ID 1001 has no (non-static) method "SubmitChoice" marked with the [PunRPC]"

    public void SubmitChoice(string emitterId, Choice choice)
    {
        if(PhotonNetwork.IsMasterClient)
        {
            if (player1_id == emitterId)
            {
                player1_choice = choice;

                player1_ready = true;

                Debug.Log("Player 1 Submitted");
            }
            else if (player2_id == emitterId)
            {
                player2_choice = choice;

                player2_ready = true;

                Debug.Log("Player 2 Submitted");
            }
            else
            {
                Debug.Log("ERROR");
            }
        }       
    }```

this is the method

[inland sand]

Mirror is a lot harder than photon :(

https://youtu.be/n_W4F5NckCA