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spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Check to make sure you aren't passing nulls around

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 4:17 PM

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i am not... i am sure of it

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the method is supposed to destroy a game object but it isn't idk why

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 4:29 PM

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I wanna change the region by pressing a button

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But I first need to disconnect from the old region and connect to the new one

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And so on if I want to connect to other

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:30 PM

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weak plinth the method is supposed to destroy a game object but it isn't idk why

Did you check whether whatever you passed into the method isn't null?

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Maybe you can follow the code to see what exactly leads up to the null

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 4:30 PM

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spring crane Did you check whether whatever you passed into the method isn't null?

yes the method checks if the local player is the targeted player and deletes an object

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sure

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Any idea on how to fix this, danny?

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Fix what exactly? Are you sure disconnecting requires you to be a masterclient?

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Thats what the error tells me

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:33 PM

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What are you calling?

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 4:34 PM

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https://gdl.space/oqiguduyog.php

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the method is used in an event

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 4:34 PM

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spring crane What are you calling?

private void ChangeRegion (string newRegion)
{
if (PhotonNetwork.CloseConnection = newRegion)
{
return;
}

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"Only the master client can do this"

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:36 PM

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That syntax doesn't look right, but any reason to use that over Disconnect?

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Idk

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A guy on a thread made this script

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And said it works

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https://forum.photonengine.com/discussion/13632/how-to-change-the-region

Photon Engine

How to change the region?

Hello there, I have got a multiplayer game with players around the world. They all get connected to their "Best-Match" region.

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Not seeing references to CloseConnection?

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 4:39 PM

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When I hover over the CloseConnection it tells me why it doesnt work

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Its in gray color

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Share it with the rest of us

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Yep

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https://hatebin.com/szywwhgfgw

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Here

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:49 PM

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You are assigning a region to a CloseConnection method?

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Might wanna double check the suggestion on the forum

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 4:50 PM

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But is the code that guy made good?

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Oh wait, comparing

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Well mostly focusing on what you currently have

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 4:51 PM

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i think my current debugging question for the code i posted above is this : "in the game scene which is running, there's more than one controller (prefab), I want to change the team then use the die method ... (the die method works as follow : destroy the game object, then check what team it is in and based on that instantiate the prefab... i could post it if you want ) "... so my question is would I need a photon view to do it?

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Comparing the return value of CloseConnection to a region doesn't make a lot of sense

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@weak plinth Yea there is a decent chance network remove requires a photonview

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 4:54 PM

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I didn't use networkremove ... i used photonnetwork.destroy

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Destroying networked objects works only if they got created with PhotonNetwork.Instantiate().

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Are they Photon instantiated?

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 4:58 PM

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yes

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Where are you calling it?

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 5:00 PM

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@spring crane I added the code and it gived me an error in unity when pressing a button to change region

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Warning message: ConnectToRegion() failed. Can only connect while in state 'Disconnected'. Current state: Connected
UnityEngine.Debug:LogWarning (object)

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 5:01 PM

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spring crane Where are you calling it?

on the prefab itself in an even

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event*

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Are you possibly trying to destroy the same object multiple times?

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What are those Die methods doing?

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@compact wigeon Well the issue seems pretty clear. Did you actually execute the disconnect line?

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 5:04 PM

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well, its in the code

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  public override void OnConnected()
    {
        base.OnConnected();

        if (shouldChangeRegion)
            shouldChangeRegion = false;
    }

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 5:06 PM

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public void Die()
        {
            playerManager.DieAndRespawn();
        }

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 5:06 PM

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.. What does DieAndRespawn do?

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Do all 3 lead to that?

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 5:07 PM

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https://hatebin.com/ghkzuqzjmj

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 5:07 PM

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yes same function in different prefabs

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public void DieAndRespawn()
        {
            PhotonNetwork.Destroy(controller);
            CreateController();
        }

void CreateController()
        {
            Transform spawnPoint = J3aJ3y.GhostPlayers.GameScene.SpawnManager.instance.GetSpawnPoint();



            PhotonTeam currentTeam = PhotonNetwork.LocalPlayer.GetPhotonTeam();

            //2-4 player .... 1-3 ghost
            if(currentTeam == null)
            {
                controller = PhotonNetwork.Instantiate(Path.Combine("Photon Prefabs/3 Spectator", "Spec Camera"),                          spawnPoint.position, spawnPoint.rotation, 0, new object[] { PV.ViewID });
            }
            else if (currentTeam.Code == 1)
            {
                controller = PhotonNetwork.Instantiate(Path.Combine("Photon Prefabs/5 Ghost/Ghost Prefab/", "Ghost"),                      spawnPoint.position, spawnPoint.rotation, 0, new object[] { PV.ViewID });
            }
}

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 5:10 PM

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                        gameObject.GetComponent<GhostCode>()?.Die();
                        gameObject.GetComponent<Anotherc>()?.Die();```
So there is some potential to call the Destroy method several times

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 5:11 PM

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spring crane ``` gameObject.GetComponent<HumanCode>()?.Die(); ...

no cause the prefab has only of those and each of the statements say.. if the game object has this component then use the method die

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Yea. Maybe add a log to DieAndRespawn method to make sure that is the case

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@compact wigeon Just because the line is there doesn't mean some other line isn't preventing it from running. Make sure you are actually calling disconnect.

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 5:13 PM

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I just the the photonview.RPC

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 5:13 PM

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how would you call it?

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 5:13 PM

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it is working BUT AFTER I DO IT 2 TIMES

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like i have to change the team 2 times for it to work

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any ideas why that's happening

olive vessel Jul 13, 2021, 5:22 PM

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compact wigeon how would you call it?

Your ChangeToEu and US and Asia are attached to buttons?

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Yeah

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I added PhotonNetwork.Disconnect(); in the start method

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Maybe its working

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Not working

olive vessel Jul 13, 2021, 5:26 PM

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That should Disconnect you from Photon's servers

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 5:28 PM

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There might be a delay

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Not working

olive vessel Jul 13, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Log something in OnDisconnected

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Because that will fire when you successfully Disconnect

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Ok

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Before or after the if statement?

olive vessel Jul 13, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Dealer's choice, but not inside it

compact wigeon Jul 13, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Alright

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Its not sending anything

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 6:31 PM

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guys I have found the cause of the problem... but i need help with it

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the photon teams that i made are getting reset

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when transitioning from the first scene to the game scene

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or should i put a dont destroy on load?

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that problem is solved but the main problem is sitll there

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and I have one last question if you dont mind... If I suddenly close the run game mode (play), I get an error that the photon view is still in use and i sitll am acessing it, of course in the app, if it closes it is like a crash so there'd be no error HOWEVER just to be on the safe side, can I handle that error??

crimson moat Jul 13, 2021, 8:13 PM

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What's the best way to handle peer-to-peer networking?
With Photon, forum posts claim to be able to achieve p2p, but everything on their website advertises servers, and requires you to select server locations, and concurrent user plans, making me think that it would be limited by those servers.
Mirror is another one, but requires downgrading to at least 2019 version.
From anyone's experience, Is it worth using either of these, or is there a better option?

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 8:19 PM

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@crimson moat What do you exactly mean by peer to peer?
Various options include:
Player hosted servers (Mirror)
Peer to peer over relay (PUN)
Pure peer to peer where 20% of your customers can't connect due to network firewalls

olive vessel Jul 13, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Mirror requires downgrading? Since when?

crimson moat Jul 13, 2021, 8:22 PM

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spring crane <@!275390238447239168> What do you exactly mean by peer to peer? Various options...

Well I'd like to avoid firewalls for sure, but is the photon one limited by the concurrent users, if it's using a server?

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because free is 20 max iirc

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if mirror is just player hosted servers, that would also require firewall stuff, right?

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 8:23 PM

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They don't provide relay servers for free

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Yea, but users that are willing to setup dedicated servers can generally figure out the port forwarding part

crimson moat Jul 13, 2021, 8:24 PM

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ahhhhh despair

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 8:24 PM

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Mirror works best with Unity 2019 LTS.
Mirror generally works with all newer LTS versions too (i.e. 2020 LTS).
A lot of people ask us if Mirror is compatible with Unity 2021.0.1.preview or similar.
Unity's LTS versions are barely stable enough. We do not recommend running multiplayer servers with anything that's not LTS.
https://mirror-networking.gitbook.io/docs/general/recommended-unity-version

crimson moat Jul 13, 2021, 8:24 PM

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so none of those would be ideal

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does something like Steam's networking with NAT punchthrough use servers?

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I'm assuming it does

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and I wouldn't want to be locked to steam anyways

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maybe I'll just stick with paid servers, none of these seem good

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Yea the NAT punchthrough is the thing that fails for some % of people

crimson moat Jul 13, 2021, 8:26 PM

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oh right

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are there any others that do that besides steam? i'd like to check that out too

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that's the only one I think would be an option beside just regular servers

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I didn't expect that I'd have to go through all of this to get 2-4 players playing a party game online

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 8:28 PM

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For a not-so-serious project I would probably go for player hosted dedicated servers, since that allows all sorts of fun

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For a casual party game just go for PUN

crimson moat Jul 13, 2021, 8:30 PM

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ok thanks

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honestly I don't even know how to set up my ports lol, last time i remember it being a nightmare

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Or Fusion depending on the gameplay

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Well you don't have to deal with that with PUNs hosting

crimson moat Jul 13, 2021, 8:31 PM

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a fusion of things? or is fusion a networking solution

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Photon Fusion

crimson moat Jul 13, 2021, 8:32 PM

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ok ill look at whatever that is

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 8:32 PM

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It should help a lot if you need higher quality networking features

grand widget Jul 13, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Is there any easy explanations/documents how to sync objects and movements with PUN?

weak plinth Jul 13, 2021, 9:22 PM

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spring crane Photon Fusion

is fusion out ??

spring crane Jul 13, 2021, 9:23 PM

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I believe beta builds are out now

gleaming prawn Jul 13, 2021, 9:35 PM

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Yes, public beta started around 1 month ago

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You can download from the website (fusion docs section), and create the free app ids for testing

wispy oar Jul 13, 2021, 10:31 PM

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how do you show a list of the rooms hosted on the server with mlapi? anyone got any ideas?

formal tangle Jul 13, 2021, 10:39 PM

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how does the UNET ack system work?

gray pond Jul 13, 2021, 11:26 PM

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MIRROR 42.2.12 IS LIVE ON THE ASSET STORE
Download: https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/network/mirror-129321
ChangeLog: https://mirror-networking.gitbook.io/docs/general/changelog

formal tangle Jul 13, 2021, 11:35 PM

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how are the acks merged into the bitfield?

weak plinth Jul 14, 2021, 8:23 AM

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i keep getting a error can not instantiate before the client joined/created a room. state peercreated

spring crane Jul 14, 2021, 9:01 AM

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Don't create network objects before joining a room.

valid plaza Jul 14, 2021, 11:17 AM

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Hi, I'm making an online chess game. When I added Photon fun 2, Figure a shape and changed position with the first player, it changed and the second player could not change position. How to get the second player to change position. Do I need to put a checkmark somewhere to make the statuette publicly available?

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wispy oar Jul 14, 2021, 2:50 PM

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ive got an issue with animations over the network.
im using mlapi, the animations are syncing using just the mlapi network animation component.
this is whats happening:
https://streamable.com/mm1smp
the animations are played depending on the directional velocity of the players.

Streamable

networkedanimationissue

▶ Play video

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anyone have any ideas on how to fix this, or whats causing the issue?

weak plinth Jul 14, 2021, 10:43 PM

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im getting a photon error of the player controlling the other player when the 2nd joins

ivory coral Jul 15, 2021, 6:10 AM

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I know I'm not making a game with Unity, but I'm trying to make a phone app where you can select a time and day on a calendar and schedule a meeting with someone. I already have the information that is inputted to be be processed and sent to the person, but I need a calendar system for the app. So if Person A picks a day and time, then Person B can't do that time and day. I was thinking that I would need some kind of server to go about this, but not sure where to look into for this kind of thing. Yes, I know I could be using other things to make this but I'm most comfortable with Unity and already have most things done with this project. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 6:42 AM

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Yeah, you are going to need a server. I think the easiest approach would be to have a central server that clients would send the picked calendar date to. If the date is free, a "success" response is sent back and the date is marked as invalid. If the date has been marked as invalid, a "failure" response is sent back

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Peer-to-peer isnt really an option here, because it could lead to different people picking the same dates, before you manage to sync the data across all devices

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Plus, if you want to do peer to peer across the internet, you still need a central server for client discovery

ivory coral Jul 15, 2021, 6:45 AM

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icy thorn Yeah, you are going to need a server. I think the easiest approach would be to h...

gotcha thx for the input. Do you have any good suggestions for servers I should look into?

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I was also thinking about maybe using Google Excel sheets as another method

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 6:46 AM

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ivory coral I was also thinking about maybe using Google Excel sheets as another method

w o t

ivory coral Jul 15, 2021, 6:47 AM

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let me explain my reasoning LMAO

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It was just a thought

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but

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 6:48 AM

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You can just write another app, like a c# core console projecg, and include the same networking library you use in your unity app. Alternatively, use a blank unity app instead of a console project

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If you want to DIY it, its literally just a TCP socket thats listening and accepting clients, then handling each client in a read-write loop

ivory coral Jul 15, 2021, 6:49 AM

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maybe you could read from a file that gets what days have been chosen and then block them out. if you choose a day then it adds it to the list and updates. idk lmaoooooo

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 6:49 AM

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If you write your own server app, you can use a real database, instead of excel

ivory coral Jul 15, 2021, 6:50 AM

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lmao I guessing the excel thing could work hm????? dogkek

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 6:50 AM

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Yes, it could

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But, using a database is better

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The reason why is that it allows you a more structured way of storig data than just a list written to a file

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It allows you to search the marked days more efficiebtly, by day or by user

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You can extend it easily and keep a single file around, making it easy to backup

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Theres no reason to not use a database

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If you wsnt to keep a copy clientside, then feel free to use a simple file

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But on the server, you should be using a real databasd

ivory coral Jul 15, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Hm databases just sound better lol. I'll have to figure out how to do all this stuff

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 6:54 AM

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You can look at EF Core, which is the database interaction solution for .net core afaik

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It allows you to connect to pretty much any db i think

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So you can stsrt off with s simppe db provider (such as sqlite) and move to bigger ones later (ms sql server)

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Its just a nuget package that you have to ibstall, its really not bad

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I applogise for my atrocious spelling btw. Mobile typing isnt my strong suit

ivory coral Jul 15, 2021, 6:56 AM

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hm alrighty. I'll try that. Do you happen to have any tutorials links to any of this? Also its all good, I could understand everything

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 6:57 AM

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I personally used the MS docs. Just search "ef core microsoft docs" and it should be one of the first links

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I would folloe the quickstart guide in the docs

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It should tell you how to connect to a db and define a model (basically, define what the stored data looks like)

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All you should need is a single model class for storing which dates are taken, and by which user

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I dont know of any good video tutorials, i didnt use them so cant vouch for them

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Im sure if you just search "ef core .net" in yt you can find something

ivory coral Jul 15, 2021, 7:00 AM

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Much appreciated, thanks again for the help

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 7:00 AM

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Npnp

boreal crescent Jul 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Hello, would anyone be able to help me out with a Photon issue? I'm kinda new to multiplayer programming, and I can't for the life of me figure out something seemingly simple lol

olive vessel Jul 15, 2021, 6:41 PM

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boreal crescent Hello, would anyone be able to help me out with a Photon issue? I'm kinda new to...

Posting actual details about any issues will get them attention much faster, don't ask to ask, just ask

boreal crescent Jul 15, 2021, 6:55 PM

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olive vessel Posting actual details about any issues will get them attention much faster, don...

Well, it's kinda a long description and I didn't want to bog up the discord haha, I'm using the Ready Player Me plugin to load in avatars from the built-in webview, it doesn't allow instantiating with PhotonNetwork.Instantiate, it works with a callback, so I have to call the spawn avatar method with an RPC and from there, i'm instanating the holder for the player, with photonnetwork.instantiate, and then trying to assign the avatar's parent to the holder, but it's not working out.

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I'm hazy on how to assign an object to a single parent on all players, I tried using the photon view instance ID to get a reference to it, but it wasn't working, so at the moment, I attached a script to the avatar that searches the scene by name, and I'm naming each holder "Player" plus the PhotonNetwork.LocalPlayer.ActorNumber for the holder and assigns it as a parent, but it's still assigning both avatars to player 1 at the moment.

frosty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Hello.

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everybody!

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I am learning AWS now. We can use AWS services from Unity with packages directly.
But for instance, if a website? How do they use this? Do they need to use API Gateway? Or Can they import the SDK exactly like us?

desert cedar Jul 15, 2021, 8:39 PM

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I don't really know multiplayer too well, but just looking for a general idea for now: what would be the best way to be able to see the screens of multiple mobile VR headsets on a PC? Having either a few onscreen at once in a split-screen view, or just being able to cycle through them one at a time. Would something like sending one eye's camera view to a rendertexture and sending that to a host computer work? Or would there have to be a full multiplayer implementation for it to work smoothly?

boreal crescent Jul 15, 2021, 8:45 PM

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desert cedar I don't really know multiplayer too well, but just looking for a general idea fo...

You don't need to send visuals, that's very costly. Instead you can just sync everything else. I only really know Photon, but if you use photon you can just add Photon Transform View components to every object and position and rotation and scale will be synced without any extra work. And if you're saying you want to view from the other player's headsets, you can just access their camera directly.

desert cedar Jul 15, 2021, 8:48 PM

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boreal crescent You don't need to send visuals, that's very costly. Instead you can just sync ev...

Thanks. Would be local/wifi only, so something like Photon Bolt would work? I just wasn't sure how much things would have to be built from the ground up for networking, though. So essentially, it's just a script you attach to any object that moves and it'll sync automatically?

boreal crescent Jul 15, 2021, 8:51 PM

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desert cedar Thanks. Would be local/wifi only, so something like Photon Bolt would work? I ju...

Photon Pun. Yeah, and there's an animator component that syncs up the animations as well, it's all very streamlined with Photon, albeit, there are some annoyances lol.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8YQpcoaPoU&list=PLkx8oFug638oMagBH2qj1fXOkvBr6nhzt&index=2 This is a good tutorial series on it

YouTube

First Gear Games

Photon Networking 2 - Introduction

Become any tier member on my Patreon below for the source files!

Would you like to help me grow? There are a variety of ways you can support me here: http://firstgeargames.com/donate/

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icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 9:23 PM

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frosty crystal I am learning AWS now. We can use AWS services from Unity with packages directly...

Depends on how the website is set up?

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What specifically in AWS

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Because afaik thats a very broad term

frosty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 9:24 PM

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dynamo, storage

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cognito

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user will get authentication, reach the dynamodb tables and find the proper location of the Assets, and will download these assets from storage @icy thorn

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Are you using some framework for your website?

frosty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 9:25 PM

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react will be using.

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I'm making the unity side.

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Oh ok

frosty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 9:26 PM

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one collague is responsible for react.

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 9:26 PM

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I thought you wanted to know more sbout tje website part

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My bad

frosty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 9:26 PM

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no, just we are trying to find a good practice. if we use SDK, then we will implement our backends

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there will be different backends. but making it with API level-code, make sense but much work.

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I could not decide...

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@icy thorn

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 9:28 PM

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You really dont have to ping me again

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I dont have too much experience with react

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https://betterprogramming.pub/how-to-use-aws-dynamodb-in-react-70b55ffff93e

Medium

How To Use AWS DynamoDB in React

Let’s try to access DynamoDB from a React application

frosty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Thanks

icy thorn Jul 15, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Would something like that help?

mighty rampart Jul 15, 2021, 10:03 PM

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wispy oar ive got an issue with animations over the network. im using mlapi, the animatio...

Are you using network transform?

It looks like you may not be sending other clients the animation triggers. If the animation triggers are not being sent to the other clients the other clients won't know that they are supposed to be running them. I have seen that give jumpy animations like that in the past.

wispy oar Jul 15, 2021, 11:43 PM

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mighty rampart Are you using network transform? It looks like you may not be sending other cl...

i have network object, network transform, and network animations components on it.

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and all the animation parameters are checked

teal obsidian Jul 15, 2021, 11:45 PM

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So I've been stuck on this for a few days now: This wheel script that I'm using absolutely does not like to be reconciliated

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https://github.com/unity-car-tutorials/SimpleRaycastVehicle-Unity/blob/master/Assets/Scripts/RaycastWheel.cs

GitHub

unity-car-tutorials/SimpleRaycastVehicle-Unity

Experimenting with Simple, Alternative Raycast Vehicle Physics for Unity 3D - unity-car-tutorials/SimpleRaycastVehicle-Unity

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if anyone has any guesses as to why, please ping me. I've been on this problem for days and I'm getting nowhere

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The physics go all wonky and get completely fucked when I have reconciliation on using this script, and the car refuses to turn at all

mighty rampart Jul 16, 2021, 12:28 AM

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wispy oar i have network object, network transform, and network animations components on i...

You should isolate between animator and network transform issues as this could be either.
I would 1. Disable network transform (breaking movement temporarily) and see if animation issues continue.

1a. if they do continue then debug your animation triggers and make sure the clients are getting the triggers by running the client in the unity IDE so you can see the debug for them.

1b. if the issues go away it is the network transform settings vs movement code.

Feel free to DM if desired.

quaint oxide Jul 16, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Does anyone know if there is a simple P2P networking solution for the 2021.1+ build of Unity? I need to use it for their fix to the "Pixel Perfect Camera (Experimental)" for URP. But, I'm hesitant to use a non-LTS version of Unity for a complex game project -- AFAIK Mirror (what I was going to learn today) is only compatible with 2019/2020 LTS.

I don't really know where to begin with MLAPI or if it's compatible with non-LTS. If it is, are there other big risks with going non-LTS?

gray pond Jul 16, 2021, 1:33 AM

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quaint oxide Does anyone know if there is a simple P2P networking solution for the 2021.1+ bu...

Mirror recommends the LTS versions of Unity. It does work in 2021.x unless Unity breaks something

quaint oxide Jul 16, 2021, 1:34 AM

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Oh so, theoretically if theres nothing wrong with, say, 2021.1.15 - then I have nothing to worry about

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In terms of Mirror specifically

gray pond Jul 16, 2021, 1:34 AM

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P2P is a whole other issue, since Mirror is server-client model. Even if a player is acting as server/host, they'll need to port-forward / set firewall or you'll need a public relay

quaint oxide Jul 16, 2021, 1:35 AM

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So if Mirror uses client-server its not actually P2P then?

gray pond Jul 16, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Right. Jump over to Mirror's discord and we can discuss further - I don't spend much time in this one (one support venue is plenty 🙂 )

quaint oxide Jul 16, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Let me find it, thanks!

gray pond Jul 16, 2021, 1:37 AM

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asset store has the link

daring whale Jul 16, 2021, 2:18 AM

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im doing some networking so does anyone know how to get the ipv4 adress using c#

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i found it lol

using //unity stuff
using System.Net;

//code
void Start(){
  string hostName = Dns.GetHostName();
  string ip = Dns.GetHostByName(hostName).AddressList[0].ToString();
}

frosty crystal Jul 16, 2021, 7:58 AM

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Hello.

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when should people select an EC2 server over Normal Backend?

limpid sky Jul 16, 2021, 10:53 AM

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Hello! I've recently updated my photon project to 2020.3.14f1 and now I cant press anything because of this error: Operation LeaveLobby (228) not called because client is not connected or not ready yet, client state: ConnectedToMasterServer

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No clue what happened at all

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It worked perfectly fine before the upgrade

spring crane Jul 16, 2021, 11:33 AM

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@limpid sky What do you mean by press anything? UI elements?

limpid sky Jul 16, 2021, 11:59 AM

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Yeah

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Buttons that contain the join room/create room

limpid sky Jul 16, 2021, 11:59 AM

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spring crane <@!108205167232438272> What do you mean by press anything? UI elements?

Also the quit one

spring crane Jul 16, 2021, 12:01 PM

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EventSystem provides a detailed debug info in the inspector if you aren't using the new input system

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Could see if UI is detecting anything

limpid sky Jul 16, 2021, 12:03 PM

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In the inspector?

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Hmm I'll see if it shows anything

limpid sky Jul 16, 2021, 12:33 PM

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fixed the problem, thank you!

river meteor Jul 16, 2021, 9:12 PM

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I have problem with porting my moving platforms from singleplayer to multiplayer. All movement for players is working great but when player stands on rotating platform nothing happens and I don't know how to handle it. In SP I had code like this cs private void OnTriggerStay(Collider other) { other.transform.RotateAround(transform.position, Vector3.up, 5 * speed * Time.deltaTime); } how can I get it to work on multiplayer

(PUN)

river meteor Jul 17, 2021, 8:08 AM

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okey I discovered I cant change players position via transform.position = new Vector

weak plinth Jul 17, 2021, 9:06 AM

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I need help with the PUN instantiate function with custom data.. I used it to send only 1 data before... now i want to know how to use it to send more than one... and that's without using OnPhotonInstantiate cause I have a class I inherited from before... any help?

frosty crystal Jul 17, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Hello.

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What approach would be better,through API or SDK, if my application won't share its backend with any other applications?

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I have two options, either using AWS LAMBDA and API GATEWAY, or just DYNAMODB package for unity.

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I really need to be guided. thank you

frigid delta Jul 17, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Sdk is the way to go if you aren't just hitting exposed api GW endpoints with http requests

plush flint Jul 17, 2021, 9:07 PM

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[Unity MLAPI] does anybody know how to get a component from instantiated network object? This only works on a server.

    [ServerRpc]
    private void SpawnGrenadeServerRpc()
    {
        // Instantiate grenade network object
        NetworkObject grenade = Instantiate(Grenade, mortarBarrel.position, Quaternion.identity);
        // Set ownership to player for game statistics
        grenade.SpawnWithOwnership(OwnerClientId);
        // Launch grenade
        grenade.GetComponent<Grenade>().launchGrenade(mortarBarrel.forward * grenadeLaunchSpeed);
    }

half olive Jul 17, 2021, 9:54 PM

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hello, i have an issue with mlapi, i am using a host and join button in scene 1 and the playground in scene 2, however i cannot see player 1 when i join the playground but when player 2 joins i can see him. but player 2 cant see himself

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like this

plush flint Jul 17, 2021, 10:20 PM

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plush flint [Unity MLAPI] does anybody know how to get a component from instantiated network...

I don't know why I can't call that method from Grenade script, because when I debug who is the owner of that component, It correctly logs client's id. So I can access the component, but can't call method from it..

plush flint Jul 18, 2021, 12:08 AM

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After I call .launchGrenade() method from ServerRpc, this method correctly logs given velocity as well as owner's client id, yet .AddForce() is triggered only when host si using this ServerRpc, in the case of a client function only correctly logs velocity and id, but .AddForce() is not triggered.. I don't understand.

SCRIPT N.1
    [ServerRpc]
    private void SpawnGrenadeServerRpc()
    {
        // Instantiate grenade network object
        NetworkObject grenade = Instantiate(Grenade, mortarBarrel.position, Quaternion.identity);
        // Set ownership to player for game statistics
        grenade.SpawnWithOwnership(OwnerClientId);
        // Launch grenade
        grenade.GetComponent<Grenade>().launchGrenade(mortarBarrel.forward * grenadeLaunchSpeed);
    }

SCRIPT N.2
    public void launchGrenade(Vector3 force)
    {
        Debug.Log(force);
        Debug.Log(gameObject.GetComponent<NetworkObject>().OwnerClientId);
        RB.AddForce(force);
    }

ivory coral Jul 18, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Hello, so I can make a database using SQLite by following this guide: https://medium.com/@rizasif92/sqlite-and-unity-how-to-do-it-right-31991712190
My question is how would I put this database online? I get that databases can hold the data for me and I can read from them, but how can I save this database somewhere so my app can read from it and that everyone who is using my app will have the same data? Or maybe I'm not understanding how to properly use a database for a unity game. Anyone have any tutorial links they can send my way?

humble socket Jul 18, 2021, 7:16 AM

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I'm pretty stuck on setting up my network project. Is there anyone that can PM me, and help me hash my problem out? I've been banging my head for months/going through tutorials that are not exactly helping my problem. I don't think what I'm doing is very complicated, just a bit heavy with deeper concepts that I need verification and another push in the right direction...

prisma ingot Jul 18, 2021, 7:55 AM

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Is playfab grt?

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Cause i need more then 20 ccu

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for free

half olive Jul 18, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Why is no one responding in here

verbal lodge Jul 18, 2021, 8:28 AM

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half olive Why is no one responding in here

There's an MLAPI specific Discord (see pinned messages in this channel). You might find more people who can help you out there. Regarding your issue, I'd need some more information to be able to help, how are you spawning the players?

frosty crystal Jul 18, 2021, 9:34 AM

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frigid delta Sdk is the way to go if you aren't just hitting exposed api GW endpoints with ht...

Hi, I know. But what I am not sure is which way should I go?

half olive Jul 18, 2021, 9:50 AM

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verbal lodge There's an MLAPI specific Discord (see pinned messages in this channel). You mig...

I followed one of the latest tutorial from dapperdino and changed under the if statement instead of turning on some UI changing to the next scene

frigid delta Jul 18, 2021, 3:53 PM

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frosty crystal Hi, I know. But what I am not sure is which way should I go?

Can you describe what you’re trying to do? 9/10 times I’d say http + api gw is the way to go. There are security concerns to including the sdk and credentials in your client app directly.

frigid delta Jul 18, 2021, 4:13 PM

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ivory coral Hello, so I can make a database using SQLite by following this guide: https://me...

That’s a guide on how to run a local db. It sounds like your goal is to have some shared online database, like a high scores table. For that you’re going to want to host a database online using some service like mongodb, heroku or fire base or http://dreamlo.com/ then make HTTP requests to add or delete or read items from it.

dreamlo - Leaderboards and User Management for Game Developers

Super simple to implement leaderboards and user management for your games. Works on lots of platforms. No signup required.

brave perch Jul 18, 2021, 5:27 PM

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So i never touched networking before and i was wondering, what it's the easiest solution i can learn? (MLAPI or old ones?)

ivory coral Jul 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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frigid delta That’s a guide on how to run a local db. It sounds like your goal is to have som...

Thank you! I'll look into this

oak yacht Jul 18, 2021, 8:07 PM

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How can I live stream recorded audioclip data from the microphone to my server? I've looked into doing chunked transfer, but UnityWebRequests doesn't seem to support me modifying it after it was sent. Originally I was thinking I could potentially attach a stream of some kind, but now I'm not so sure.

Is there a way to do it with rest? Should I look into sockets or grpc instead?

austere yacht Jul 18, 2021, 8:52 PM

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oak yacht How can I live stream recorded audioclip data from the microphone to my server? ...

You cant/shouldn't stream AV over http to a "webserver" (depending on what you mean by that... guessing since you mention UnityWebRequest). There is always System.Net.Sockets... https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.net.sockets?view=net-5.0 Other than that... SaaS with SDKs, or some library might exist depending on your needs. As an alternative to UnityWebRequest you can use System.Net.Http https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.net.http.httpclient?view=netstandard-2.0, which gives you full control

System.Net.Sockets Namespace

Provides a managed implementation of the Windows Sockets (Winsock) interface for developers who need to tightly control access to the network.

HttpClient Class (System.Net.Http)

Provides a class for sending HTTP requests and receiving HTTP responses from a resource identified by a URI.

oak yacht Jul 18, 2021, 8:56 PM

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austere yacht You cant/shouldn't stream AV over http to a "webserver" (depending on what you m...

Part of what appealed so nicely to me is that I can handle incoming request streams super nicely on my node server using busboy parsing of the multi-part form data:

app.post("/conversation", (req, res) => {
    let busboy = new Busboy({ headers: req.headers });
    let transcription;

    busboy.on("file", async (fieldname, file, filename, encoding, mimetype) => {
        if (fieldname == "audio") {
            transcription = await transcribe(file);

             ~~ other stuff, eventually returns a audio buffer ~~
        }
    });

    return req.pipe(busboy);
});```

which allows me to work directly with streams (file is a stream in this case) and to transcribe the audio content I'm receiving more quickly. I was hoping there was a way I could extend that concept even further by having the POST request sent out early, and appending the microphone input bytes as I receive them

austere yacht Jul 18, 2021, 8:58 PM

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thats a different kind of stream than what you might want to use for AV streaming

oak yacht Jul 18, 2021, 8:59 PM

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greater context of what I'm working on:

Working on a side project to use GPT3 in video games for non-player characters:

https://youtu.be/cjGeeb0QkAE

my flow essentially is
1.) record voice
2.) stream voice to google speech-to-text
3.) take text result, add to gpt3 prompt, and send to gpt3
4.) take gpt3 response, and send to google text-to-speech api
5.) play audio result back to user

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trying to turn the beginning of that flow into

Stream microphone input from unity -> Backend Node Server -> Google Transcription API

austere yacht Jul 18, 2021, 9:00 PM

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you're just uploading files then, thats not "streaming"

oak yacht Jul 18, 2021, 9:00 PM

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I'm not sure I understand the difference

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It processes the data as it receives it, not after it's compiled it together

austere yacht Jul 18, 2021, 9:03 PM

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the difference is in how big the chunks are and how live/responsive the service should be

oak yacht Jul 18, 2021, 9:05 PM

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to my understanding the tcp/ip connection made between the client and the server can be modified after it's sent, unitywebrequest doesn't support it though

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my idea was to stream the microphone data into this request, which my server is equipped to process as it goes

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will look into this though: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.net.httpwebrequest.begingetrequeststream?view=net-5.0

HttpWebRequest.BeginGetRequestStream(AsyncCallback, Object) Method ...

Begins an asynchronous request for a Stream object to use to write data.

austere yacht Jul 18, 2021, 9:07 PM

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That's not what tcp/ip is good at, but in a prototype it might work.

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those streams really are meant for reporting on transfer progress of larger messages

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also the compute-performance-requirements of that flow are gonna be extreme

oak yacht Jul 18, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Didn't realize this but all the methods I thought I could use of carrying this out, http, sockets, or grpc, are all based on tcp

austere yacht Jul 18, 2021, 9:12 PM

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sockets (as a concept) aren't bound to any particular protocol. Only an instance is.

oak yacht Jul 18, 2021, 9:13 PM

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oh gotcha

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been meaning to do this for a while now, but if I've kinda hit a dead-end with my http/rest implemention, kind of thinking of implementing this with gRPC

oak yacht Jul 18, 2021, 9:46 PM

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austere yacht That's not what tcp/ip is good at, but in a prototype it might work.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/566462/upload-files-with-httpwebrequest-multipart-form-data

found this stack overflow, in it they use GetRequestStream() which opens a connection to the server. Couldn't I mimic it but then stream microphone data into the request as I get it?

Stack Overflow

Upload files with HTTPWebrequest (multipart/form-data)

Is there any class, library or some piece of code which will help me to upload files with HTTPWebrequest?

Edit 2:

I do not want to upload to a WebDAV folder or something like that. I want to sim...

spring merlin Jul 19, 2021, 12:33 AM

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hello everyone I am trying to figure out how to set a gameobject active using photon in unity but I cannot figure it out I have looked it up and cant find anything, does anyone know how to do it?

hardy hamlet Jul 19, 2021, 5:13 AM

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Does anyone have experience with photon voice and audio sources, I seem to be having a problem with something called audio frames and it's stopping my voice chat from working

hardy hamlet Jul 19, 2021, 6:20 AM

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This is the error im getting

icy thorn Jul 19, 2021, 6:42 AM

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oak yacht been meaning to do this for a while now, but if I've kinda hit a dead-end with m...

Why are you trying to impose additional latency and overhead? As Anikki says, sockets arent protocol specific. If you want to do something custom, with specific latency and bandwidth requirements (which i assume the audio streaming is), then your best bet is to try to hand roll an implementation.

UDP has better latency, but you would have to packetise the stream into chunks. Also, its unreliable, so you might miss packets and have to resend them.

TCP is stream based, so you coukd send a continuous stream of data. It can suffer from latency issues, but when just trying to upliad an audio stream this isnt an issue

You should take a look at the System.Net Sockets. The Send and SendTo methods are what you want.

oak yacht Jul 19, 2021, 6:45 AM

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icy thorn Why are you trying to impose additional latency and overhead? As Anikki says, so...

Not trying to impose additional latency or overhead, I wasn't sure the best way to approach it. I've worked with TCP sockets before, but not UDP and based on my quick googling was slightly scared off and was learning in favor of trying gRPC, which is supposedly really good for duplex streaming

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Goal is to have as minimum latency and overhead as possible, and if UDP is the best way to do it then I'll look into it

icy thorn Jul 19, 2021, 6:46 AM

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How long is your audio processing going to take? How largr are the audio chunks you are sending

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It could be possible that you dont have to care. That a simple upload will br enough

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You might be able to get away with sending the audio, listening for the text, sending the text, and listening for the response, all over tcp

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You say your voice is being sent

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Would players voices be sent?

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Or is this just a side project, and not a game prototype?

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Do google provide anything other than REST endpoints for their services? Same question fkr gpt3? Or are you going to be running a local inetance of it?

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(I forget if they made gpt3 public or not)

oak yacht Jul 19, 2021, 6:50 AM

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icy thorn How long is your audio processing going to take? How largr are the audio chunks ...

Haven't profiled it. Player uploads complete .wav file to server, that audio's file stream gets sent to google's speech-to-text via their gRPC api, text is received back and sent to GPT3, and then the text result is sent to google's speech-to-text api, before sending the audio buffer back to the payer.

You're right in that I might be barking up the wrong tree though. I already have a working implementation using normal POST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrmjSw7rCA8, and the time savings from switching to a fully streaming setup might be minimal compared to the actual compute time of gpt3 and more specifically the voice synethizer. Might be best to keep working solution and focus on speed optimization later.

YouTube

Harris Rothaermel

GPT3 AI NPC prototype in Unity

▶ Play video

icy thorn Jul 19, 2021, 6:51 AM

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Yeah, "premature optimisation id the root of all evil", etc

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That looks reaply cool so far! Gj

oak yacht Jul 19, 2021, 6:52 AM

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icy thorn Yeah, "premature optimisation id the root of all evil", etc

Starting to feel the pain of that. Spent the day experimenting with different approaches to speed it up to try and get it to as real time as possible, but I'm starting to think, just anecdotally, that the biggest time spent is on the text-to-speech api. Might spend tomorrow profiling all of this, rather than trying to perfectly optimize everything

icy thorn Jul 19, 2021, 6:52 AM

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But yeah the lag in between you talking and the npc responding is probably due in large part to gpt3

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Also speech to text

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Profiling is very important

oak yacht Jul 19, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Watching the server logs, the response is pretty quick, so it might not be text-to-speech or gpt3

icy thorn Jul 19, 2021, 6:55 AM

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How does the node server work?

frosty crystal Jul 19, 2021, 8:45 AM

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frigid delta Can you describe what you’re trying to do? 9/10 times I’d say http + api gw is t...

Thank you for your held kirb!
I get authenticated by HostedUI via OAuth2.0 and replace the code by tokens. And in the application I am going to use, DynamoDB, Storage for the first phase.

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There will be Unity application, and two React application will use the same backend.

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But I insisted my friend to use SDK instead of using HTTP and lambda things since it is easy to implement and wont share our backend to anybody.

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And why do you think it is unsafe to use SDK? We do not put any code in it but the id pool id and the hostedUI link.

quick cairn Jul 19, 2021, 1:26 PM

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Hi, I have an api (created with python/flask) and this sets a session when the user logs in, in a normal browser this works and the session is respected across different api routes. Does unity have something similar that keeps the session like a browser does?

frosty crystal Jul 19, 2021, 10:56 PM

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Hello.

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In DynamoDB, can I make restaurant table as "restaurant city = partition key" and " restaurant name = sort key"

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Does it make sense? Or what shuld I do

frosty crystal Jul 19, 2021, 11:55 PM

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        public async Task<Token> GetTokenForNextTime(string refreshCode)
        {
            Debug.Log("refresh key ile token alınacak.");
            string text;
            do {
                Debug.Log(refreshCode);
                var request = new HTTPRequest(new Uri(GeneralConsts.USER_POOL_DOMAIN), HTTPMethods.Post);
                request.AddHeader("Content-Type", "application/x-www-form-urlencoded");
                request.AddField("client_id", GeneralConsts.CLIENT_ID);
                request.AddField("grant_type", "refresh_token");
                request.AddField("refresh_token", refreshCode);
                request.Send();
                text = await request.GetAsStringAsync();
                Debug.Log("refresh key ile token ALINDI.");
            } while (text == null);

            return JsonConvert.DeserializeObject<Token>(text);
        }```

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Hello this gives me throwfornonsuccess. do you see anything unusual?

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AWS cognito

analog frost Jul 20, 2021, 4:25 AM

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there is any way to remove code from the client build but keep it in the server build? like database things

analog frost Jul 20, 2021, 4:58 AM

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I think it is not secure to let it stay in the client considering decompilation

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anyone have a clue? it's also hard to have separated projects, considering most of things gotta be synced to make the game work

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the client could connect to an API to send/request data? yes but it gonna be more slowly for sure

I think this approach is the corret one tho
maybe I'll make a ZMQ server to handle the database

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anyone have a suggestions?

brazen canyon Jul 20, 2021, 6:35 AM

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add a custom scripting define like #if SERVER @analog frost

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https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/PlatformDependentCompilation.html

analog frost Jul 20, 2021, 1:32 PM

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brazen canyon add a custom scripting define like #if SERVER <@!124506201890226178>

but will this code be 100% deleted from the client build? or it is just no run? I read the docs but still not 100% sure tho

and thanks for the reply

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In C# you can use a CONDITIONAL attribute which is a more clean, less error-prone way of stripping out functions

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looks like it delete

brazen canyon Jul 20, 2021, 1:46 PM

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it will be completely removed

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you can confirm by using something like DNSpy on your built assembly

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https://github.com/dnSpy/dnSpy/releases

GitHub

Releases · dnSpy/dnSpy

.NET debugger and assembly editor. Contribute to dnSpy/dnSpy development by creating an account on GitHub.

analog frost Jul 20, 2021, 2:00 PM

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brazen canyon it will be completely removed

hmm thanks a lot for the help
gonna use this method for sure

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 3:22 PM

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why is networking so undocumented? how do people do this?? i just wanna use steam servers but i literally cant find anything regarding it

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im trying to use photon but its not telling me anything regarding using steam servers, they want me to use their servers and pay i guess?

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the ones i do find seem to be direct player to player connections, which isn't what i want

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can i use photon voice with mirror?

verbal lodge Jul 20, 2021, 3:44 PM

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You cannot use steam servers with your own games.
You can use Steamworks (Steamworks.Net / Facepunch) to use steam networking for p2p connections via the steam relay.
You can probably use Photon Voice with any networking solution but not sure about that one.

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 3:47 PM

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wait wdym, when steam servers go down games made with unity also go down (scp secret lab for example)

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and that game uses mirror

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is that what steam relay is?

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when players connect over steam?

verbal lodge Jul 20, 2021, 3:53 PM

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SCP just uses the steam relay afaik.

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 3:54 PM

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oh alright

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i just want players to be able to play without having to port forward, like a phasmophobia style menu/lobby

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 4:52 PM

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With Photon 2, I'm using a Photon Transform View for a cube being transferred across players in VR, but for some reason the cube will constantly shake and be a little delayed

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Is there a better way to send the position of the cube across the network that will be more accurate?

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:11 PM

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does the cube have any rigidbody or anything on it?

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:12 PM

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random matrix does the cube have any rigidbody or anything on it?

Yup!

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:12 PM

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that is probably why

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Should I have it be kinematic while it's grabbed?

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:12 PM

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yeah i would

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Alright I'll try that out

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is there a preference for the movement type? Right now I have it on instantaneous

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

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idk ive never used pun successfully

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

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xD

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

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that was just my guess for the reason

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

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right now I have room listing and other stuff going on, so it's just the interactions that are giving me trouble lol

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I'll let you know how it goes

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

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im trying to figure out how to make a server list in mirror rn

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ive never done networking right

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and i just took on a super ambitious project

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:14 PM

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I followed the VR tutorial, since I'm doing it in VR, but it seems like the process is basically the same for non vr

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eventually I'll have to make this PC compatible

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:14 PM

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im working with vr for the first time

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:14 PM

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so then non vr users can run it

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:14 PM

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bruh mine is gonna be vr and pc cross platform

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:14 PM

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pog

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:14 PM

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and ive never done networking or vr before

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so im sorta dead rn

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:14 PM

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networking is new to me too

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:15 PM

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how did you get a room list?

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im on mirror but it might be a similar process

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:15 PM

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well for photon, it updates on the RoomListUpdate

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so everytime a room updates

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it'll store the List of Rooms to a script, and then store that info in another list

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and then I just go through the list and instantiate a ui for each room

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accessing the info in each one

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:16 PM

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o

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i cant even figure out how to like

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get open rooms

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and if i do figure it out i wont have any way to test

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cuz im using steamworks.net

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and dont have any friends that would help me test

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:17 PM

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yeah I have to like use my quest

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and then hit play in unity and look at the scene view

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this is what manages the room list for me

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and then RoomListing is a class I made that sets the info

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I made this following a tutorial, but it's getting called in this event

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OnRoomListUpdate will happen everytime rooms update

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So if someone makes a new room, this is automatically called

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or if a room closes, etc

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originally I was going to use Mirror because I bought a Udemy course on it, but then I decided to use pun2 instead

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

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i was the opposite

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i started with pun2 but couldnt find anything at all about steam support

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like joining via steam and stuff

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so i just gave up and switched to mirror

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dapper dino had a pretty good tutorial on it

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but he didnt go over making a room list afaik

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:22 PM

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So for pun2 and steam, don't they have their own SDKs?

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So basically you'd just use the list from the Steam SDK and their own stuff for things like friends list etc

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but then for the multiplayer part you would just have the players connect to the servers using pun2

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I'm not really sure, I didn't even know steam had an sdk until I googled it a sec ago lol

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this guy maybe solved the issue?

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:25 PM

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o i dont mean steamvr

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i mean like

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steam relay connections

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and steam authentication and stuff

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but

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i just switched to mirror and ive made some progress

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im just making a simple main menu rn

cunning sluice Jul 20, 2021, 5:25 PM

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what project are you working on?

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 5:26 PM

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its a game about storm chasing

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lemme compress a vid i took for my friends a couple minutes ago

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thats my menu rn

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im gonna put a world canvas on that monitor for the actual ui

random matrix Jul 20, 2021, 6:18 PM

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@cunning sluice if you decide to use the steamworks api i figured it out

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painfully

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    protected Callback<LobbyMatchList_t> lobbyListRequested;
    private const string HostAddressKey = "HostAddress";

    void Start()
    {
        lobbyListRequested = Callback<LobbyMatchList_t>.Create(onLobbyList);
        SteamMatchmaking.RequestLobbyList();
    }
    private void onLobbyList(LobbyMatchList_t callback) {
        int lobbiesMatching = unchecked((int)callback.m_nLobbiesMatching);
        List<CSteamID> ids = new List<CSteamID>();
        
        for(int i = 1; i <= lobbiesMatching; i++) {
            ids.Add(SteamMatchmaking.GetLobbyByIndex(i));
            Debug.LogWarning(SteamMatchmaking.GetLobbyData(SteamMatchmaking.GetLobbyByIndex(i), HostAddressKey));
        }
    }```

analog frost Jul 21, 2021, 12:50 AM

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cunning sluice With Photon 2, I'm using a Photon Transform View for a cube being transferred ac...

You should use Fusion, client predict and snapshot mode

analog frost Jul 21, 2021, 3:23 AM

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cunning sluice With Photon 2, I'm using a Photon Transform View for a cube being transferred ac...

https://doc.photonengine.com/en-us/fusion/current/hello-fusion/hello-fusion-vr

Hello Fusion VR | Photon Engine

Global cross platform multiplayer game backend as a service (SaaS, Cloud) for synchronous and asynchronous games and applications. SDKs are available for android, iOS, .NET., Mac OS, Unity 3D, Windows, Unreal Engine, HTML5 and others.

gilded jay Jul 21, 2021, 4:14 AM

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for a multiplayer card game service, could someone recommend what to use for the networking aspect

upper scarab Jul 21, 2021, 6:07 AM

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how do i make a player to player connection? rn i only have it player1 to server to player2, which is slow (using udp )

sinful drum Jul 21, 2021, 3:55 PM

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gilded jay for a multiplayer card game service, could someone recommend what to use for the...

https://docs-multiplayer.unity3d.com/

Unity Multiplayer Networking | Unity Multiplayer Networking

This site provides Unity Multiplayer documentation, references, and sample code tutorials.

grave ice Jul 22, 2021, 12:34 AM

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Mirror and Photon are two other great soultions for Unity @gilded jay

grave ice Jul 22, 2021, 12:35 AM

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upper scarab how do i make a player to player connection? rn i only have it player1 to server...

I recommend researching "peer to peer networking unity". There are networking stacks in Unity that supports it, such as Photon Bolt and Mirror LRM

upper scarab Jul 22, 2021, 12:35 AM

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i decided to try and use udp hole punching method

pseudo bronze Jul 22, 2021, 9:08 AM

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grave ice Mirror and Photon are two other great soultions for Unity <@!135425782502785024>

Personally I strongly recommend MLAPI over Mirror, not least because it's now officially supported by Unity. It's also easier to use and more reliable because it doesn't rely on a complex code weaver

cunning sluice Jul 22, 2021, 5:12 PM

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In Photon2 I'm having an issue where the cube being passed from player to player in VR is laggy, any fixes?

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Currently using Photon Transform View, I've tried parenting it to the controllers, and turning in kinematic when it's picked up and so far it hasn't helped

analog frost Jul 22, 2021, 6:24 PM

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photon 2 isnt a thing

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you mean pun 2?

random matrix Jul 22, 2021, 6:27 PM

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if anyone would like to stomp on me feel free to, i just spent 3 hours debugging why i couldnt see my lobby when it was just set to private

crimson patrol Jul 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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What is the best package for developing multiplayer games in unity? I have a sound knowledge about programming and backend development but not about unity. Please suggest 🙂

cunning sluice Jul 22, 2021, 6:43 PM

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I had just assumed pun 2 = photon 2 lol

cunning sluice Jul 22, 2021, 6:43 PM

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analog frost you mean pun 2?

yes pun 2

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I thought it stood for photon unity network 2 or something

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I'm probably wrong haha

random matrix Jul 22, 2021, 6:49 PM

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thats exactly what it stands for

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not sure why they care so much

cunning sluice Jul 22, 2021, 7:01 PM

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oh

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yeah I just say Photon 2 because it sounds a lot better than Pun 2

frosty crystal Jul 22, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Hello. this question is regarding AWS dynamoDB
I have a restaurant app my question is
My primary key consists of "RESTAURANT CITY" as "PARTITION KEY" and "RESTAURANT NAME" as sort key
is this good practice?

frosty crystal Jul 22, 2021, 9:02 PM

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2.Question. I have a JWT ID TOKEN. But how can I decode it? Which library?

mighty rampart Jul 23, 2021, 12:46 AM

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random matrix if anyone would like to stomp on me feel free to, i just spent 3 hours debugging...

lol, I have done that before.

random matrix Jul 23, 2021, 1:56 AM

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crimson patrol What is the best package for developing multiplayer games in unity? I have a sou...

not mirror

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source: am using mirror

wraith monolith Jul 23, 2021, 8:57 AM

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random matrix source: am using mirror

what’s wrong with it?

fervent badger Jul 23, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Am using pun2

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Does public override void OnRoomListUpdate(List<RoomInfo> roomList)

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Not work anymore?

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I am using Photon.Pun

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And the behaiour is MonoBehaviourPunCallbacks

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And if not pls tell me the right syntax

random matrix Jul 23, 2021, 10:12 AM

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wraith monolith what’s wrong with it?

its stupid

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cant have children objects networkef

spring crane Jul 23, 2021, 1:27 PM

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crimson patrol What is the best package for developing multiplayer games in unity? I have a sou...

ExitGames provides several high end solutions, like Photon Fusion and Photon Quantum, but if you just want something that can do the packet sending, there are bunch of transports to choose from. A lot of solid transports are implemented in higher level networking solutions like Mirror.

gentle mirage Jul 23, 2021, 1:45 PM

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The last unity net demo used photon realtime for transport, which is what all photon products use for backend transport more or less

fervent badger Jul 23, 2021, 1:49 PM

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fervent badger Am using pun2

Need help pls

gentle mirage Jul 23, 2021, 1:54 PM

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I gotcha fam

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Wat the problem is

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Oh

gentle mirage Jul 23, 2021, 1:56 PM

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fervent badger Need help pls

No it doesn't work like that anymore

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I actually have an asset soon to be release to handle this

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However there are still ways (aka see astroids demo or pun cockpit)

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public override void OnRoomListUpdate(List<RoomInfo> roomList)
	{
		foreach(Transform trans in roomListContent)
		{
			Destroy(trans.gameObject);
		}

		for(int i = 0; i < roomList.Count; i++)
		{
			if(roomList[i].RemovedFromList)
				continue;
			Instantiate(roomListItemPrefab, roomListContent).GetComponent<RoomListItem>().SetUp(roomList[i]);
		}
	}

fervent badger Jul 23, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Thank you

cunning sluice Jul 23, 2021, 2:47 PM

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fervent badger Does public override void OnRoomListUpdate(List<RoomInfo> roomList)

It works, I'm using it currently to list rooms

fervent badger Jul 23, 2021, 3:31 PM

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Huh...

cunning sluice Jul 23, 2021, 5:54 PM

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fervent badger Huh...

Did you make sure that players join a lobby first?

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It'll only update on their client if they're in a lobby

fervent badger Jul 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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Yea i did

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Though

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Theres an error

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Ur missing thing one

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That means its not a part of Photon.Pun

river meteor Jul 24, 2021, 7:25 AM

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I wanna make in my fps project "dying mechanic", but I don't know if I should destroy players prefab or just reset values and teleport to spawn point. Which is good way to handle something like that?

fervent badger Jul 24, 2021, 8:40 AM

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gentle mirage ```cs public override void OnRoomListUpdate(List<RoomInfo> roomList) { foreac...

Ye bruh it actually works u just need to include using Photon.Realtime

spring crane Jul 24, 2021, 11:26 AM

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@river meteor The question is pretty similar to should I pool or not. Pooling is a neat way to get rid of the Destroy and Instantiate cycle, but does require implementing some sort of reset to all component state. Whether you think it's worth it is up to you.

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I don't think the networking side cares too much assuming you don't have some large initial syncs for whatever reason, since the streamed data probably overshadows those relatively rare events.

gentle mirage Jul 24, 2021, 11:51 AM

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river meteor I wanna make in my fps project "dying mechanic", but I don't know if I should de...

slap a coroutine on it then when it acutally destroys just do PhotonNetwork.Destroy(gameObject);

gentle mirage Jul 24, 2021, 11:53 AM

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fervent badger Ye bruh it actually works u just need to include using Photon.Realtime

bruh i posted a method not a clas lol, but yes, likely may require realtime import. BIG NOTE FOR PEOPLE USING PHOTON: DONT NAME YOUR GOD DAMN PLAYER CLASS 'PLAYER' LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE IS GREAT JUST NOT PLAYER (this had me bent over like a prison pinata for like 6 months figuring out why my game would like, only work depending on the phases of the moon (aka c sharp just like, casting shit one way or the other)

olive vessel Jul 24, 2021, 12:12 PM

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I mean, it likely would have whined about ambiguity between your Player class and theirs, you could just fully qualify it like Photon.Realtime.Player myPlayer ...

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Not sure of the exact namespace for theirs

gentle mirage Jul 24, 2021, 12:20 PM

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olive vessel I mean, it likely would have whined about ambiguity between your Player class an...

yea, same here!!!!!!!

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but it didn't

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it is evil

olive vessel Jul 24, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Is your IDE configured?

gentle mirage Jul 24, 2021, 12:21 PM

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of course, in fact both rider and vs i used, in fact, i even used rider in linux

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its not htat

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its that

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you can import photon.pun

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which doesn't include photon.realtime.player

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but photon.pun.rpc for example can take a parameter of type player

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in fact, a lot of photon.pun namespace stuff uses photon.realtime.player

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so its just goes to c sharp JIT hell i guess

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but considering the solution (right click -> refactor/rename -> Player -> PlayerScript) i'd say risk to reward, especially considering i'm not the only one who had this issue, is prolly worth it

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also, if player class inheretes monobehaviorpun, it now has photonView, which has photonView.Owner, which is type Photon.Realtime.Player, yet you only import photon.pun

haughty osprey Jul 24, 2021, 12:25 PM

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I'm trying to create a steam network thing with mirror i have an issue that when i load my lobby scene from my menu scene the network manager just... dissapears? (in the lobby scene) I have checked all of my DontDestroyOnLoad objects and none of them have a duplicate NetworkManager because i know that duplicates cause errors, nothing sticks out in console either.

gentle mirage Jul 24, 2021, 12:26 PM

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whats your like, transport layer or am i dum and steam does this now?

haughty osprey Jul 24, 2021, 12:26 PM

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FizzySteamworks

gentle mirage Jul 24, 2021, 12:27 PM

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oh huh never heard of thta i gotta look it up

haughty osprey Jul 24, 2021, 12:27 PM

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lmao

gentle mirage Jul 24, 2021, 12:28 PM

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so its pure p2p, and you gotta port forward and all that

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thats the one nice part of say, photon realtime for transport, since it uses a relay, IPs are masked and it has like, trusted in all but secure business environment punchthrough

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plus you can implement your own relay and put minimal (or maximal) logic on it

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yea i dont know anything on this i cant help you i can only suggest other stuff that doesn't help you at all lol

fervent badger Jul 24, 2021, 1:10 PM

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RIP

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6 month

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Cuz

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U couldn't think of anything other shit than player

gentle mirage Jul 24, 2021, 2:40 PM

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no, i didn't think since i was using that namespace it was causing any issues but eventually i said f it and magically, intermittent errors went away, then i started participating in the photon forums/discord more and at least 2 other people had weired issues, i suggested that, and they said it fixed it

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the ide/assembler should get mad at you, and so should unity, but it didn't

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Hey, I'm looking to learn Unity development over the next few years and I've done several basic tutorials, I roughly know my way around the editor, and I've done .Net development for years, so Unity is taking a hobby to the next level.
That said, I'm looking to create a base Multiplayer First-Person-Viewpoint framework using MLAPI to support 64 player connections to a server. The problem I have is that when I connect more than one client, the camera shifts. I've separated the prefab entities so each client's input moves only their entity, but ownership of that entity and the camera still reside with the server.

My question here is simply;

Why does MLAPI do this by standard? What scenario would require new players to join and overwrite existing viewpoints? And, on that topic, how do I stop the default spawn prefab process via Network Object so that I can do it myself properly?

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 10:43 AM

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Anyone?

verbal lodge Jul 25, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Are you deactivating the cameras on all the player objects of which the client is not the owner of?

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Ownership of a player object does not reside with the server with MLAPI but with the owner client.

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:00 AM

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verbal lodge Ownership of a player object does not reside with the server with MLAPI but with...

That’s exactly my issue, the server is the owner. Even when I spawn multiple clients, all of them state ownership is the server, and surely that shouldn’t be happening, right?

verbal lodge Jul 25, 2021, 11:00 AM

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What do you mean by spawning multiple clients.

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:01 AM

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I create multiple client windows from the build and one server.

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Input to move the objects is fine.

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Cameras just don’t work

verbal lodge Jul 25, 2021, 11:01 AM

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Can you share your code for input and cameras?

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Give me 5, I’ll need to reopen the project.

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@verbal lodge so this is what handles the command line input to generate the server and 3 clients:
https://paste.ofcode.org/shVdccLavRWPpDmHpykNxe

I run the executable with -server switch, and then 3 more without it.

verbal lodge Jul 25, 2021, 11:07 AM

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Yeah that code looks fine. I'd need the one on your player object

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:07 AM

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Then this is my very basic game manager doing nothing really except providing a gui for the server to show its the server, and then the bit at the bottom is my frustration trying to find a way to get it working:
https://paste.ofcode.org/5K29NSLw3cFmfNL8rZfKG2

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This is the player movement:
https://paste.ofcode.org/VjzTkK6NhugEtbynafiVzH

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and this is the camera enable:
https://paste.ofcode.org/ZYdh47xkTmYB6Bx3LayvhY

verbal lodge Jul 25, 2021, 11:08 AM

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That should give you an exception. A client cannot spawn a network object

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Only the server can

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So SetupClient isn't really doing anything here right. Your player object is just the default player object which MLAPI spawns.

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:10 AM

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The bit at the bottom marks as setup complete when the server runs it anyway, it doesn't actually do anything. I basically tried just about anything I can think of to get the camera to work... i.e. prefab the camera, marking every object under the prefab as a network object, and then not, having an empty as the prefab which contains the rest, and not

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:10 AM

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verbal lodge So SetupClient isn't really doing anything here right. Your player object is jus...

Correct... but MLAPI spawns it with server ownership

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not client ownership

verbal lodge Jul 25, 2021, 11:10 AM

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So for the camera replace Start with override NetworkStart and it will work. This is a UX issue which we have in MLAPI. Ownership is not defined yet in Awake/Start

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:11 AM

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is that it?

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Do all my objects under my prefab have to be listed as NetworkObjects?

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:29 AM

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As far as I'm aware only parent object should have NetworkObject component

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:32 AM

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Unfortunately it hasn't changed the camera issue, but strangely I am now seeing the ownership field update for the client connection to "2" for the second client on the prefab item.

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This looks correct, right?

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Don't know If I can be of any help, but I have 1 player prefab that has Camera as child and a script attached to it, inside of that script in Start function I just do this:

    void Start()
    {
        if (!IsOwner) return;

        PlayerCamera.SetActive(true);
        spawnCharacter(Vector3.zero);
    }

And everything works fine with me, what is strange after reading this conversation between you two 😄

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:37 AM

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@plush flint If you spawn multiple clients to connect to the server though, do the cameras remain independent of one another?

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:40 AM

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Yes everything works fine, just tested it with multiple clients

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:41 AM

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and where have you attached that script above, and what type is it? MonoBehaviour / NetworkBehaviour?

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:41 AM

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NetworkBehaviour, its basically just a prefab that has camera as a child

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:42 AM

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lol exactly the same setup I have

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:42 AM

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so the parent is the one with the script

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:42 AM

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yet every new camera that gets created in my framework, it jumps the servers and the clients to the newly created camera, even when the camera still shows as disabled in the heirarchy when its spawned

verbal lodge Jul 25, 2021, 11:43 AM

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You really should not use Start

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There is no guarantee that it works. Use NetworkStart for network behaviours

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Oh okey, thanks a lot

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:45 AM

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I'm so lost with this. I just can't understand where this is going wrong. The tutorials really aren't very helpful in setting up a multiplayer game when this is a fundamental issue right out of the blocks 😦

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:46 AM

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This is basically my editor window with host and 1 client, clients camera is disabled, you have it the same way? I use ParrelSync so I can have 2 editors open for easy debugging.

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:47 AM

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Maybe I'm just wrong... do you disable the component by unticking it in the explorer?

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This bit, right?

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:48 AM

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Clicking that checkbox will disable/enable the component

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I'm disabling the whole camera gameobject but that should be of any difference

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:49 AM

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Maybe that's where I'm going wrong.

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:51 AM

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btw I'm very new to all networking stuff and ParrelSync package helps so much with allowing me having 2 editors open and seeing whats exactly going on there, its also faster than always creating builds. So maybe you could try it if you want it should help a bunch

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You could just manually disabling camera components on clients editor and see whats going on there

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:54 AM

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Nah, still doesn't work disabling the entire camera gameobject

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 11:59 AM

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just to be sure, the networkobject prefab that you are spawning, it initially has camera gameobject disabled right?

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and you only enable it when it's the owner

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 11:59 AM

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See this is what's so confusing... take a look at this, this is the second client to join in to the server:

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Here's the prefab, the camera is DISABLED!

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Yet, its the active view for that client, the other client, AND the server.

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yep, this is the full prefab:

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 12:01 PM

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The first picture where it says isOwner: false, it also says isOwnedByServer: false so who owns that gameobject? 😄

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:03 PM

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this is what's entirely baffling to me lol... all I'm doing is specifying the game to run from the build via command line, without any arguments.

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OwnerID 3 is the correct ID too... its the 2nd player to join

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 12:04 PM

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If my calculations are right, the second player should have ownerID 3

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yeah, so that's really confusing 😄

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From editor you connect as a client, and from one of the builds as host right?

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:05 PM

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Aye, the build hosts it, then I connect from the editor, then connect from the build

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I've spent 14 hours looking at this now, and it's insanely frustrating that it just doesn't do what it's supposed to do 😐

plush flint Jul 25, 2021, 12:07 PM

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Well at that point, I would probably open DapperDino's channel, view video where he is spawning players, copy the whole thing, check if it works and if yes, implement it into my project, if not I would probably start crying

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:23 PM

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Doesn't MLAPI have samples available?

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:27 PM

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spring crane Doesn't MLAPI have samples available?

Yeah, but they're not particularly helpful. The FPSSample took forever to download, install etc... but I can't even find the start or the network manager that all of the tutorials use

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:28 PM

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You mean this FPSSample? https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/FPSSample

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Yes

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:28 PM

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That's not MLAPI

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:29 PM

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Explains why I couldn't find any references to it... It's linked on the MLAPI page though as a showcase for MLAPI

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:30 PM

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You mean this page? https://docs-multiplayer.unity3d.com/

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:32 PM

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IDK, I can't remember where I found it. Either way, it wasn't too helpful to understand it, and all of the tutorials on that one you just linked haven't helped, they've essentially got me into this situation where cameras are never unique, and instantiating doesn't work correctly. The only thing I've changed really is the prefab that's used, and the inputmanager with a keyhandler to accept wasd inputs

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:33 PM

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FPSSample does use Unity's transport layer, which is basically the lower level component for the higher level part, like MLAPI and Mirror, which implement several transport layers.

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Most packages have samples listed for it in the package manager

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:35 PM

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I'm not seeing any:

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Might have something to do with being a git package

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Still not on the package manager natively? 🤨

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:37 PM

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nope, not on the current 2021.1 release either. I'm on 2020.3 though

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:41 PM

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Oh MLAPI is still v 0.1.0? The heck y'all doing? Pick a networking framework that at least thinks it's ready for use 😄

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:41 PM

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Other networking frameworks have limitations with hosting, usage, or concurrent player counts

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Did you check Mirror?

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There are more than ExitGames and Unity in this space 😄

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:43 PM

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I think I did check mirror out, isn't that the one that cannot be used for cloud gaming?

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:43 PM

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What do you mean by that?

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:44 PM

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something I read somewhere that with certain multiplayer networkings you can't use your solution for cloud-gaming without breaching Unity's ToS... which is why I was looking at MLAPI because its owned by Unity

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Oh the SpatialOS thing

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Ah yeah, that's the one... they used mirror network framework right?

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:46 PM

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It doesn't affect developers running their own servers for their own game.
(I'm not a lawyer, this isn't legal advice 😄 )

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SpatialOS is their own thing that provides hosting for other games. There was a licensing dispute there

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Aye, but they also had a multiplayer FPS framework which used mirror for networking

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and then a few short days afterwards, the whole dispute kicked off

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Kinda doubt they were using Mirror

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 12:48 PM

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I'll give it a shot and see if I can get at least a step further ahead than with MLAPI anyway

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 12:50 PM

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You can also see bunch of other names here https://forum.unity.com/threads/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-available-network-solutions-assets.609088/.

verbal lodge Jul 25, 2021, 1:06 PM

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The "Spatial OS thing" had nothing to do with Mirror. If you are creating a game with Unity, you can use cloud hosting solutions to host a Unity server without breaking ToS.

limber holly Jul 25, 2021, 2:14 PM

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I have a problem with Photon: when a second player enter the game, I have a second player 1 instantiated too

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and a second problem, when I try to connect to Photon with the game build and the unity Game test, players don't seems to be in the same room

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 2:47 PM

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limber holly and a second problem, when I try to connect to Photon with the game build and th...

Make sure both clients ended up on the same region

spring crane Jul 25, 2021, 2:47 PM

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limber holly I have a problem with Photon: when a second player enter the game, I have a seco...

You don't have the player object in the scene by any chance? Possibly duplicate player spawning logic?

limber holly Jul 25, 2021, 2:52 PM

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thanks for answer, no player in the scene, just instantiate

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 3:42 PM

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@spring crane Mirror did in about 15 minutes what MLAPI took me 15 hours of troubleshooting couldn't fix.. thanks 👍

prisma ingot Jul 25, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Im not sure if i should start with mirror or photon pun 2

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can anyone help

limber holly Jul 25, 2021, 5:16 PM

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I know you can find lot of tutorials with PUN 2

analog frost Jul 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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anyone in here ever made a game using server authority mode?
where you have a master server that spawn new rooms for the players?

wary gull Jul 25, 2021, 10:36 PM

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prisma ingot Im not sure if i should start with mirror or photon pun 2

Depends on usage. Pun looks like it has server requirements to be on their platform and CCU caps.
Mirror is self-hosted that you can stick on any hardware / cloud it.

tawdry star Jul 26, 2021, 2:09 AM

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How does server / client tick rate work?
Do you need to sync the current tick for the client and server?

opaque briar Jul 26, 2021, 8:57 AM

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Hey, i want to make a Multiplayer game which only contains UI which send data between the Players. Is Mirror good for this or did you know a better Solution.

glass rain Jul 26, 2021, 1:26 PM

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where should i start learning networking with mirror

olive vessel Jul 26, 2021, 1:27 PM

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DapperDino and First Gear Games have some useful tutorials on Mirror on YouTube

patent fog Jul 26, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Start here https://mirror-networking.gitbook.io/docs/

Documentation

https://github.com/vis2k/Mirror

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Then the youtube tutorials :)

wary gull Jul 26, 2021, 7:23 PM

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I'm not sure if this is a "general" coding question, or a "networking" question... but from a performance perspective, is it better working with classes attached to GameObjects that can then be synced to the server, or using network variables?

weak plinth Jul 26, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Hey guys! I was wondering if there are any good TCP/UDP client and server solutions. I want the client and the server in a different project. I've seen some attempts on this problem, but ive only stumbled upon on barely OOP code with insane ammount of public fields with no getters and setters. Thanks in advance.

maiden marsh Jul 26, 2021, 9:31 PM

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https://github.com/BeardedManStudios/ForgeNetworkingRemastered

GitHub

GitHub - BeardedManStudios/ForgeNetworkingRemastered: In short, For...

In short, Forge Networking is a free and open source multiplayer game (multi-user) networking system that has a very good integration with the Unity game engine. You wanna make a multiplayer game o...

weak plinth Jul 26, 2021, 9:33 PM

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❤️ this looks something i was looking for

keen mirage Jul 27, 2021, 8:10 AM

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how can this translate this into url in unity? doing this id = 4 doesnt seem to work

Screen_Shot_2021-07-27_at_4.09.02_PM.png

cobalt python Jul 27, 2021, 10:32 AM

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HI, gyus! Question about PUN. I have a problem with destroying go. I have gloves prefab that contains 2 child: leftglove and right glove. Gloves prefab is set to mainGloveContainer and left and right to theirs containers accordingly, so there are 3 containers total. When i try to PhotonNetwork.Destroy left and right glove i have an error on other client:

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It seems that photon tries to destroy main glove go as its id is 1008. But it has been already destroyed

spring crane Jul 27, 2021, 11:05 AM

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I would really double check what is being destroyed, since PN.Destroy doesn't seem to be travelling to parent objects looking for a PhotonView and viewid mismatch seems unlikely.

cobalt python Jul 27, 2021, 11:41 AM

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spring crane I would really double check what is being destroyed, since PN.Destroy doesn't se...

i solved the problem by setting gloves part's parent back (sending RPC) to Gloves prefab (in gloveMainContainer) prior destroying. That is probably spare rpc but the only solution i found

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thanks

quick cairn Jul 27, 2021, 1:45 PM

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Hi, i have a question. In TCPclients, Byte[] bytes = new Byte[4096]; <-- specifically, this line... what does that do exactly? I have a large (variable size) of a packet that comes in from the server as a json object. Is that byte size limiting me from getting the whole json object?

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or does that simply split the packets in 4096 byte chunks and they get reconstructed by the client?

river meteor Jul 27, 2021, 1:53 PM

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there is limitations for PhotonViews components and RPC calls? (PUN)

icy thorn Jul 27, 2021, 4:11 PM

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quick cairn Hi, i have a question. In TCPclients, Byte[] bytes = new Byte[4096]; <-- specifi...

That means you can only receive 4k bytes at a time

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So either theres chunking

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Or it can only deal with fixed size packets

quick cairn Jul 27, 2021, 4:12 PM

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so can i guess my next question would be, how can i not set it and let it figure out on its own?

icy thorn Jul 27, 2021, 4:12 PM

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If you have a variable size packet, you need to allocate a fixed size buffer for the header (which must have the length of tbe data segment) and thrn you can collect the whole packet

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If you dont want a header, you should store every chunk, and append to a single list or somethin

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Only stop appending and try to read the packet when an 'end-of-packet' is reached

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What that specifically is depends on how you send packets

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And you run into the issue that you will be blocking until the entire buffer is filled, which could contain 1 byte of the current packet, then 4095 bytes of a new packet

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I would suggest going for the |size| . . . data . . . | approach, as its much easier

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Are you doing networking yourself?

icy thorn Jul 27, 2021, 4:16 PM

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quick cairn so can i guess my next question would be, how can i not set it and let it figure...

You cant, at least not in a clean, reliable way

quick cairn Jul 27, 2021, 4:16 PM

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i see

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i'm basically doing an irc client in unity

icy thorn Jul 27, 2021, 4:16 PM

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You must know how much data to read, especially using tcp, because otherwise you risk blocking

quick cairn Jul 27, 2021, 4:17 PM

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and the channel history, it sends it at the beginning of joining a channel

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and that's a big packet of variable size

icy thorn Jul 27, 2021, 4:17 PM

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You can set nonblocking, but that raises exceptions, which is slow

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Are you willing to send custom, binary packets? Or do you only want to send json?

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Are you willing to use sockets, or do you want to use TcpClient and friends

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I would suggest going for TcpClient, and creating a custom packet structure. Send an int, with the packet size, then send all the bytes of your json string.

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On the other end, read the size, then read that many bytes into an appropriate buffer

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so what you could do is:

// receiving data
byte[] headerBuffer = new byte[4]; // buffer size = sizeof(int)
int headerBytesRead = conn.Receive(headerBuffer); // this is for a socket, ymmv
ReadOnlySpan<byte> headerSpan = headerBuffer
int bodyBytes = MemoryMarshal.Read<int>(headerSpan);
byte[] bodyBuffer = new byte[bodyBytes]; // this can be pooled to avoid allocation
int bodyBytesRead = conn.Receive(bodyBuffer); // again, this is for a socket
string payload = Encoding.UTF8.GetString(bodyBuffer); // the encoding can be whatever you want
// do something with the payload

// sending data
string payload = "..."; // get this somehow
byte[] bodyBuffer = Encoding.UTF8.GetBytes(payload); // encoding here must match previous encoding
int bodyBytes = bodyBuffer.Length;
byte[] headerBuffer = new byte[4]; // again, sizeof(int)
Span<byte> headerSpan = headerBuffer;
MemoryMarshal.Write(headerSpan, ref bodyBytes);
int headerBytesWritten = conn.Send(headerBuffer);
int bodyBytesWritten = conn.Send(bodyBuffer);

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note that for both cases, you have to handle conn.Send() and conn.Read() returning a number less than the total bytes you need to handle

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for that, you might want to use the following loop:

private bool TryRead(Socket conn, byte[] buffer) {
  int read = 0, toRead = buffer.Length;

  do {
    int readNow = conn.Receive(buffer, read, toRead - read, SocketFlags.None);

    if (readNow == 0) // error condition, connection closed on other end
      return false;

    read += readNow;
  } while (read < toRead);

  return true;
}

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the TrySend version is very similar:

private bool TrySend(Socket conn, byte[] buffer) {
  int written = 0, toWrite = buffer.Length;

  do {
    int writtenNow = conn.Send(buffer, written, toWrite - written, SocketFlags.None);

    if (writtenNow == 0) // again, error
      return false;

    written += writtenNow;
  } while (written < toWrite);

  return true;
}

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if you want to do your own networking, this is an ok starting point

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but i would recommend you dont

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when using TcpClient, a lot of this headache goes away

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you would still have to setup some kind of packet structure, but you have to think less about errors

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also, to handle channel history, just keep it on the client

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append to a local file, with a history file per channel the user is in

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have the option to delete the history file

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that way your server is lighter, and uses less bandwidth

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@quick cairn did i scare you off? :^)

quick cairn Jul 27, 2021, 4:47 PM

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icy thorn <@!798864217670549515> did i scare you off? :^)

lmao ermmmm.... no i'm trying to digest all of that HAHAHA

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the only problem with that, is the the channel history will keep updating even when you're logged off

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so at some point, when you login, you still need to fetch all the history

icy thorn Jul 27, 2021, 4:51 PM

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True

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I forgot aboit that facepalm

quick cairn Jul 27, 2021, 4:54 PM

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worst comes to worst, i'll get rid of channel history, in my case it's not really that important\

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i was more concerned with the size of each message sent

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about that 4096 bytes

quick cairn Jul 27, 2021, 5:21 PM

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thank you for your input i really appreciate it

wary gull Jul 27, 2021, 9:35 PM

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I’m totally just going to bury my head in the sand and just hope the default networking stuff works 🤪

steady crater Jul 27, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Hello,can somebody help me? I use mirror for networking. How i can fix problem when all players see from host camera? Now i make camera.depth = -10 and disable audio listener if not local player, but i think exists so smart ways ( i cant destroy camera if not local player because player selected item is child of camera)

olive vessel Jul 27, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Disable the camera if it's not the local player? Simple as it gets

steady crater Jul 27, 2021, 10:27 PM

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olive vessel Disable the camera if it's not the local player? Simple as it gets

if i disable camera player selected item will be disabled too

olive vessel Jul 27, 2021, 10:27 PM

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?

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The Camera component has a selected item?

steady crater Jul 27, 2021, 10:29 PM

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olive vessel ?

GameObject with camera and camera control script have a selected item in child ( if i move camera, selected item will be move too)

olive vessel Jul 27, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Yeah when I said disable the Camera, I meant the actual component called Camera

steady crater Jul 27, 2021, 10:33 PM

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olive vessel Yeah when I said disable the Camera, I meant the actual component called Camera

i need disable audio listener too, then i should disable camera and audio listener in every player class script, it breaks dont repeat yourself

olive vessel Jul 27, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Did you just ghost ping me?

meager zephyr Jul 28, 2021, 1:20 AM

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Has anyone ever worked with UNet's Network Discovery's broadcast data? I'd like to use the broadcast data to transmit specific metadata using delimiters to clients searching for joinable servers, such as current server population.

However I realize that broadcast data needs to be set before hosting a server, and cannot be changed while the server is being hosted (I may be mistaken here). So this makes broadcast data useless for updating current server metadata to searching clients.

Is there a workaround for this, or perhaps I am mistaken? New to multiplayer with UNet/Mirror. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

violet anvil Jul 28, 2021, 1:58 AM

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anyone know a good netorking totorial that would work for an openworld game (a dedicated server)

teal obsidian Jul 28, 2021, 4:24 AM

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icy thorn Are you willing to send custom, binary packets? Or do you only want to send json...

never use json for networking. Extremely slow.

icy thorn Jul 28, 2021, 8:19 AM

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Yeah, you dont say

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Originally, i suggest using binary

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But, if someone wants to get started using json its not an issue

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And the question was about the packet structure, not the fastest way to transfer data

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All it would take to convert a packet that uses json, to a packet that uses a custom binary structure, would be to add a new field to the packet header for the "packet type". Then have an enum for all of the different packets you send, and write the correct enun value into the packet header. Then write the individual fields of the packet, and read them in the same order

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// you can use a different backing type if you have more or less types, to save a byte or two in the packet header. the default is int
enum PacketType : short{
  MessagePacket,
  HistoryPacket,
  // add more types
}

// receiving data
byte[] headerBuffer = new byte[6]; // buffer size = sizeof(int) + sizeof(short)
int headerBytesRead = conn.Receive(headerBuffer); // this is for a socket, ymmv
ReadOnlySpan<byte> headerSpan = headerBuffer
int bodyBytes = MemoryMarshal.Read<int>(headerSpan.Slice(0, sizeof(int)));
PacketType packetType = (PacketType)MemoryMarshal.Read<short>(headerSpan.Slice(sizeof(int), sizeof(short)));
byte[] bodyBuffer = new byte[bodyBytes]; // this can be pooled to avoid allocation
int bodyBytesRead = conn.Receive(bodyBuffer); // again, this is for a socket
ReadOnlySpan<byte> bodySpan = bodyBuffer;
// do something with the packet
switch (packetType) {
  case PacketType.MessagePacket:
    // a message packet could look like |user id|utf8 message| 
    int userId = MemoryMarshal.Read<int>(bodySpan.Slice(0,sizeof(int)));
    string userMessage = Encoding.UTF8.GetString(bodySpan.Slice(sizeof(int))); // get remaining bytes
    // do something with tbe user id and message
    break;
}

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Sending packets is very similar, except that you write the header into the buffer, and you write fields into the body buffer at different offsets

languid marten Jul 28, 2021, 9:06 AM

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Hello can someone help me make a sql multiplayer game the game is built just dont have the multiplayer fully working

olive vessel Jul 28, 2021, 9:27 AM

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A SQL Multiplayer game?

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Is it about creating tables and avoiding SQL Injection?

robust sandal Jul 28, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Hello, I am very unexperienced with Photon/PUN/Networking and have been following a tutorial series by Welton King, everything has been working perfectly with photon until we made a room list function, players can see other players rooms, the names and players connected to the room but when joining the rooms players cant see eachother nor can they see any other functions that should be called through RPC's, any help?

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📎 message.txt

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Ive tried skipping the whole room list functionality and just making a join create button immidietly but that still doesnt work, something messed up when trying to make the room list thingy, if there arent any problems here it might have to do with PUN regions?

karmic kayak Jul 28, 2021, 10:27 AM

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hi i'm using GameSparks for an online quiz game, i fixed every things and works fine in preview mode but when go in live mode i get this error in Unity console

GS: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

also this is the line that this happening :

soalatlist = _message.ScriptData.GetGSDataList("soalatList");

grave ice Jul 28, 2021, 10:38 AM

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game sparks isnt supported anymore

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its dead in the water

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no tweets or updates for over 12 months

livid valley Jul 28, 2021, 10:58 AM

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How do I go one about making a peer to peer unity game

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There seems to be no tutorial about it that I can find

olive vessel Jul 28, 2021, 11:01 AM

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Mirror? MLAPI?

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Tonnes of tutorials for those networking solutions

livid valley Jul 28, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Wait wait wait

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They're peer to peer?

olive vessel Jul 28, 2021, 11:14 AM

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Clients can connect to a hosting client yes

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Might require port forwarding or punch through

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@languid marten Quite why you decided to DM me I have no idea, that is in contravention of the #📖┃code-of-conduct

languid marten Jul 28, 2021, 11:24 AM

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olive vessel <@!526036743497973775> Quite why you decided to DM me I have no idea, that is in...

sorry

olive vessel Jul 28, 2021, 11:25 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKbY-0zt2VE

YouTube

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languid marten Jul 28, 2021, 11:25 AM

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olive vessel <@!526036743497973775> Quite why you decided to DM me I have no idea, that is in...

I was just replying to you wasn't sure if you were on still

olive vessel Jul 28, 2021, 11:25 AM

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BTBG creates a simple series about using Unity, PHP and SQL to store and retrieve player data

languid marten Jul 28, 2021, 11:25 AM

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That video is how I did it but I have a different type of database then them because my site is designed to be like roblox

olive vessel Jul 28, 2021, 11:28 AM

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I'm familiar with their site, though I have no idea how the backend works

languid marten Jul 28, 2021, 11:30 AM

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olive vessel I'm familiar with their site, though I have no idea how the backend works

I have the sites full front end and backend done I just need a way to make the database connect to the game

green tide Jul 28, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Am I getting this right? If I want an enemy to shoot at a player, the player has to tell the server to spawn this projectile?

near cairn Jul 28, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Say what library would you recommend for LAN stuff and dedicated servers?

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Should I just make a custom implementation?

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Never tried it in C# how long would you reckon it'd take?

icy thorn Jul 28, 2021, 6:59 PM

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have you done it before?

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if youve implemented it before, not too long

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dedicated servers arent that hard (with tcp at least; the ping can be bad, but on average its ok)

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tcp for slower games, udp for fast paced games

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LAN is a bit annoying

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peer-to-peer could be fun, but difficult

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it depends on your scope

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theres obviously photon and mirror and the other one (ML?)

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usually, i would say use photon?

gleaming prawn Jul 28, 2021, 7:01 PM

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If willing to use photon, just go for fusion

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:35 PM

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how would i create a prefab for my third person player if i have like seperate camera for it, im using cinemachine

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like it's not a child of the player

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so how would i make it respawnable with camera

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:36 PM

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@ancient iris spawn without camera

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if character is local character, then it can use the camera
otherwise, that character doesn't touch the camera

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:38 PM

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high night <@!376421819663646720> spawn without camera

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so if i create a prefab of the player, and spawn in, how do i make it so both players get the same properties of the camera but two different camera for each prefab

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:39 PM

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there is just one camera on each client

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and local character controls it

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Yea so what would i do

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Just spawn it in

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Without camera?\

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:40 PM

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//spawns without camera

if(isLocalPlayerOrSomething){
UseCamera(camera.main);
}

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:42 PM

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high night //spawns without camera if(isLocalPlayerOrSomething){ UseCamera(camera.main);...

so like this would work for photon right

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so where would i put this if state ment

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:42 PM

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it works for anything

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if local player, you use the camera the way you wanna use it

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like in update or something

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if not, you don't touch the camera

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so there is just one character moving the camera and its the local players character
@ancient iris

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:44 PM

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high night so there is just one character moving the camera and its the local players chara...

ok cool

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one last question

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if i have an animation (dodge right animation) that moves me to the right, whenever i dont use root motion it just gets stuck in that position and the camwera doesnt move with it, but if i use root motion it slides back the original positiom, how would i make it so it plays and the camera moves with it

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like a dodge right

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:46 PM

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i don't ever use root motion

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i have movement logic/collision/physics in character parent

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and i have an animated character under it

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for dodge, i'd play the animation and move the capsule myself trying to sync it to animation as close as possible

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and camera just always follows the capsule
@ancient iris

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if you try to design your character in a logic in a way that it can work without the animation logic, it will be more sustainable and helpful in many cases

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:49 PM

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high night and camera just always follows the capsule <@!376421819663646720>

ok wait so i would move the camera for example like to the right if i have a dodge right animation

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:49 PM

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so i suggest not letting character logic know about animation logic or animation
animation logic knows character logic but not the other way around

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:50 PM

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ancient iris ok wait so i would move the camera for example like to the right if i have a dod...

you dodge -> capsule moves -> camera follows capsule since it always follows the capsule

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:50 PM

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i see

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wait so

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:50 PM

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no root motion in animator

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:50 PM

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heres the problem

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i have a empty game object called player then as a child i have my actual player (the prefab i got online)

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and my animations are in the actual prefab

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:51 PM

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and it translates when you roll

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right?

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:51 PM

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yea

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its really weird

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it like goes in circles

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:51 PM

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and thats your issue

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:51 PM

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that gets wider

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and the camera doesnt move with it

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:51 PM

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i said that i suggest not using root motion

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thats because your visual character moves and camera follows the parent

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@ancient iris just disable the animated character

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add a mesh filter/renderer to your character parent

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implement the roll that way

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just a capsule doing a fast move

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and then worry about syncing the animation

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:53 PM

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if i remove root motion my feet sink into the the ground

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:53 PM

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you got feet IK?

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:53 PM

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ok wait it's fine

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ill j re do my thing

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but ty for the help

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:53 PM

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my tip is

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:53 PM

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im new to this

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unity

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:54 PM

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make it work with just a capsule and then use/sync the animation

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:54 PM

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ah

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yea

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imma try

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doing

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first person

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and using a capsule instead

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:54 PM

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high night make it work with just a capsule and then use/sync the animation

this will make it easier for multiplayer logic too

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you will sync the capsule part, you will not sync the animation part
animation part will be reproduced locally

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character logic will not ever know about animators name or your animated body

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:55 PM

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imma try to recreate a first person sword game

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:55 PM

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fighting games require good netcode

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:55 PM

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yea

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:56 PM

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predictive you know

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:57 PM

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high night predictive you know

if im using this model

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i would just position the camera do the models head

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and then child it?

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:58 PM

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no

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camera wont be childed

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just make it follow via code

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in update or late update

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you will also have some more issues with your fixed update/update syncronizations

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you will probably have stutters

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but we can talk about that later when you get there

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:59 PM

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got it

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ok

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thanks for all ur help

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:59 PM

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np

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 7:59 PM

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is it fine if i dm u if i have any questions later

high night Jul 28, 2021, 7:59 PM

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fine

ancient iris Jul 28, 2021, 8:00 PM

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LOL ok i wont bug u

near cairn Jul 28, 2021, 8:23 PM

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@icy thornThanks for a reply, doesn't Proton utilize a single dedicated server that you setup though?

icy thorn Jul 28, 2021, 8:27 PM

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theres cloud options and self-hosted options for Photon iirc

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you would have to check

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what you should do depends on what you want to do

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if you want to learn how it works internally, implement your own

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if you want to learn how it works in a practical sense, and then ship something, use a 3rd party solution

near cairn Jul 28, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Alright

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Thanks for advice I'll look into it

icy thorn Jul 28, 2021, 8:33 PM

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np

river meteor Jul 28, 2021, 9:52 PM

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I made flashlight, I networked it over network properly and Im turning it off/on by spotlight.enable value, everything works but on another client I can't see the light, I don't know where is the problem, any ideas?

steady crater Jul 28, 2021, 11:29 PM

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I use mirror. How i can destroy item for all players? I i write like that, if client destroy item host dont see that.

spark sleet Jul 28, 2021, 11:36 PM

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steady crater I use mirror. How i can destroy item for all players? I i write like that, if cl...

Call a command from the client to destroy it then call an Rpc from said command that has that code there

lusty tiger Jul 29, 2021, 2:06 AM

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If I'm making a Peer 2 Peer game using Steamworks I would only need to replicate absolutely necessary things, like player location, rotation, health, what weapon they're holding, monster/enemy locations, rotation, and health. And things like what's in their inventory don't necessarily need to be replicated correct?

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I could take player location changes and play animations locally without having to send from one peer to the other which animation exactly they are playing, inventory wouldn't be a big deal as long as whatever the player is holding or using is being replicated I would assume?

spare ridge Jul 29, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Has anyone experience using MLAPI?

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 6:33 AM

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hi im using photon and when the player connect the camera individually is working but whenver i move it controllers the other player, not my player, anyone know the problem, btw i used if view.IsMine

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 7:35 AM

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ancient iris hi im using photon and when the player connect the camera individually is workin...

show the code

keen mirage Jul 29, 2021, 8:05 AM

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is it possible to pass a form-data to PUT Request in unity?

robust sandal Jul 29, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Hello, I am very unexperienced with Photon/PUN/Networking and have been following a tutorial series by Welton King, everything has been working perfectly with photon until we made a room list function, players can see other players rooms, the names and players connected to the room but when joining the rooms players cant see eachother nor can they see any other functions that should be called through RPC's, any help?

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Ive tried skipping the whole room list functionality and just making a join create button immidietly but that still doesnt work, something messed up when trying to make the room list thingy, if there arent any problems here it might have to do with PUN regions?

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📎 LauncherCS.txt

spring crane Jul 29, 2021, 12:00 PM

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PUN ships with samples that have a lobby

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 12:22 PM

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robust sandal Hello, I am very unexperienced with Photon/PUN/Networking and have been followin...

Remember that when you execute "CreateRoom" function it automaticlly joins to it, also make sure that t_roomName string is not null and it is the same room name as created

robust sandal Jul 29, 2021, 12:23 PM

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Im sorry, i dont really understand what youre saying

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How do I use what u just said and fix the script? @river meteor

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 1:17 PM

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did you check if your variable t_roomName is the same as room name while creation?

night cargo Jul 29, 2021, 2:16 PM

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hey internet can anybody help me with my movement

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:24 PM

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night cargo hey internet can anybody help me with my movement

we take questions in advance

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paste your question

night cargo Jul 29, 2021, 2:24 PM

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i have some problems with my movement
im working on online game]
and i launch two instances of a game and when i press wasd both characters move

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using photon

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the code:

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https://mystb.in/EvaluatingUniSteering.csharp

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:27 PM

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night cargo i have some problems with my movement im working on online game] and i launch tw...

you arent doing anything about who processes the input, who doesnt

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there should be some boolean that tells that character belongs to the local client

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if that boolean is true, only then you do the input

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@night cargo
there are more details to this
you should just follow a tutorial

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its easier that way

steady crater Jul 29, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Hello everyone! Can somebody tell me why objects dont destroy? I got error : "Trying to send command for object without authority"

night cargo Jul 29, 2021, 2:31 PM

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can u sent tutorial link plz

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:32 PM

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night cargo can u sent tutorial link plz

i dunno, my favorite tuts are outdated now

night cargo Jul 29, 2021, 2:32 PM

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can documentation help me?

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:32 PM

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well, theres some stuff about the setup

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and object authorities

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and spawning "player" objects

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which is like the entry point for a player to send any command to server

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you'd be better off seeing a tutorial imo
@night cargo

night cargo Jul 29, 2021, 2:34 PM

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will that help me? https://doc.photonengine.com/zh-cn/pun/current/demos-and-tutorials/pun-basics-tutorial/player-networking

7 - Player Networking | Photon Engine

Photon Unity Networking framework for realtime multiplayer games and applications with no punchthrough issues. Export to all Unity supported platforms, no matter what Unity license you have!

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:36 PM

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i would wanna get my hands on a minimal, working example and understand it.

i thought tutorials are helpful for that
just my opinion

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:37 PM

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steady crater Hello everyone! Can somebody tell me why objects dont destroy? I got error : "T...

apperantly you need to have authority over that object

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you might wanna put that function in players script

steady crater Jul 29, 2021, 2:37 PM

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high night apperantly you need to have authority over that object

i call destroy on server, server have authority on all objects or no?

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:38 PM

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you shouldnt need to call command on server
@steady crater

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if its server doing the destroy, just make the server call the destroying function

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no commands

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or you mean to make client call command for server to do the destroy

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is this a client initiated destroy?

steady crater Jul 29, 2021, 2:40 PM

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yes

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:40 PM

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just move the function to authorized player object?

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and call it there?

steady crater Jul 29, 2021, 2:42 PM

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this object dont spawned by player, its object exists from game start , nobody have a authority on this object , only server can destroy it if i think right

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:43 PM

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you could have like a DamageThing() command in player script

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youd call that on local clients character

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and that would make the server destroy the object without authority issues

night cargo Jul 29, 2021, 2:45 PM

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@high night can i put it like this

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private void Update()

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if (photonView.IsMine == false && PhotonNetwork.IsConnected == true)
{
return;
}

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:46 PM

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i am sorry its been a long time i used photon

and since these are one time stuff i dont remember anything at all

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if you follow a video tut, you should get some nice copy paste material to get you going immidiently
@night cargo

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some capsules shooting at other capsules

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thats the classic

night cargo Jul 29, 2021, 2:48 PM

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i couldnt find anything;(

high night Jul 29, 2021, 2:48 PM

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steady crater this object dont spawned by player, its object exists from game start , nobody h...

i think destroying is servers duty so authority isnt involved there

but i wouldnt know for sure

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@night cargo https://youtu.be/FH8UBCM6UeI

YouTube

Yaseen Mujahid

Photon Networking Tutorial Series EP#04 | Remote Procedure Call (RP...

One of the more important features of Photon you'll find yourself using more often, called "RPC (Remote Procedure Calls)". Today we'll be taking a look at this, and how it differs from direct data sending/receiving. An alternative to this is also available, called "Raise Event".

Be sure to join the discord server for any sort of help, I'm dece...

▶ Play video

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this is where i learnt

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the series i mean

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this is vid 4
you start from first one

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2 years old so i guess its fine?

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if you use pun2 though maybe look for a pun2 one

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i like that its a fast paced one
doesnt go into unnecessary stuff

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 3:56 PM

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night cargo if (photonView.IsMine == false && PhotonNetwork.IsConnected == true) { retur...

Just put before your code which process player input / movement if(!pv.isMine) return;

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But you must first specify photonview of your player object

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Each photon view have unique ID

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For ex private PhotonView PV = GetComponent<PhotonView>():

spark sleet Jul 29, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Hey, pretty new to networking, I'm using Mirror.

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If I want to tell if I'm the host I need to store the first client, right, since host is just the server without a client?

gray pond Jul 29, 2021, 5:48 PM

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spark sleet If I want to tell if I'm the host I need to store the first client, right, since...

host client is a client that runs in same instance as server. Mirror has its own Discord for support...link is in the ReadMe and Asset Store page.

spark sleet Jul 29, 2021, 5:52 PM

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gray pond host client is a client that runs in same instance as server. Mirror has its ow...

👍

robust sandal Jul 29, 2021, 6:18 PM

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river meteor did you check if your variable t_roomName is the same as room name while creatio...

Yea thats not the problem since ive also tried just skipping all of the room creation and just calling JoinRandomRoom, connects to the room, still cant see eachother nor any of the other things that should be happening over the network

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Are instantiating players by PhotonNetwork.Instantinate?

robust sandal Jul 29, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Not sure, i can maybe check later but everything worked completely fine until i tried following the room creation tutorials in a video series ive been following

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Something messed up around ep 43 - 44 - 45 https://youtu.be/u_mhGhXTbjs?list=PL6PsTmPNvw0eZirNDjO8dL0Y6X0ZFGaMt if that helps anything

YouTube

Welton King

HOW TO SETUP A MULTIPLAYER ROOM LIST IN PUN

Hey chumps! In this video I will show you how I added a room list to our fps game!!
It's gonna take a good mixture of UI and Photon callbacks to get the job done!

Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/vrErfxa
Catch up on Github: https://github.com/Kawaiisun/SimpleHostile

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Audaci...

▶ Play video

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 6:26 PM

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robust sandal Not sure, i can maybe check later but everything worked completely fine until i ...

I think if they can't see each other in room I assume they are in two different rooms. Check in Unity if you have both players in object list

robust sandal Jul 29, 2021, 6:28 PM

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Bro that's so smart why didn't I think of that

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Or they are instantiated locally

robust sandal Jul 29, 2021, 7:57 PM

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river meteor Or they are instantiated locally

Alright so the players arent both in the hierarchy but t_roomName is correct

spiral lark Jul 29, 2021, 8:04 PM

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anyone able to help me trouble shoot an issue ive been having with my game. im using photon btw. just @ me or dm me if you could help me out

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 8:35 PM

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robust sandal Alright so the players arent both in the hierarchy but t_roomName is correct

ok you have cs public override void OnJoinedRoom() { base.OnJoinedRoom(); if (!PhotonNetwork.IsMasterClient) return; StartGame(); }

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what does StartGame(); function do?

robust sandal Jul 29, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Its all the way down at the bottom of the script

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idk how to send code

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 8:36 PM

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use pastebin.org for the next time

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but you dont instatinate the players in any place

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you must do playerobjects as prefabs, then put these prefabs into Resources folder and then in StartGame function or OnJoinRoom use PhotonNetwork.Instatinate

cunning sluice Jul 29, 2021, 9:56 PM

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So for Pun2 I added a OnOwnerChange to a script, and a targetcallback in the awake and destroy but it still doesn't work

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Is there something else I need to have it receive the event for when the objects owner changes?

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

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river meteor show the code

https://pastebin.com/MMGw9b7L

Pastebin

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my camera is a child of my fps controller

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 10:24 PM

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tip: ```cs
void Update()
{
if(!view.IsMine)
return;

        isGrounded = Physics.CheckSphere(groundCheck.position, groundDistance, groundMask);


        if (isGrounded && velocity.y < 0)
        {
            velocity.y = -2f;
        }

        float x = Input.GetAxis("Horizontal");
        float z = Input.GetAxis("Vertical");

        Vector3 move = transform.right * x + transform.forward * z;

        controller.Move(move * movementSpeed * Time.deltaTime);

        velocity.y += gravity * Time.deltaTime;

        controller.Move(velocity * Time.deltaTime);

    
} ``` this would be simpler to use in future

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but I don't why controls are swapped

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did you instantinated players by PhotonNetwork.Instantiate?

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 10:30 PM

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river meteor tip: ```cs void Update() { if(!view.IsMine) return; ...

wait so should i change it to this

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and also i did instantiate it, ```using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using Photon.Pun;

public class SpawnPlayers : MonoBehaviour
{
public GameObject playerPrefab;

public float minX;
public float maxX;
public float minY;
public float maxY; 

private void Start()
{
    Vector2 randomPosition = new Vector2(Random.Range(minX, maxX), Random.Range(minY, maxY));
    PhotonNetwork.Instantiate(playerPrefab.name, randomPosition, Quaternion.identity);
}

}```

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 10:30 PM

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you can try but I shouldnt change anything

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 10:31 PM

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like the camera works but the im controlling the other player instead of my player

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idk why

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 10:36 PM

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try add to your player script ```cs
public static GameObject LocalPlayer;

void Awake(){
if (PV.IsMine)
{
// Change YourPlayerClass with your player controller class
YourPlayerClass.LocalPlayer = this.gameObject;
}
}```

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 10:37 PM

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river meteor try add to your player script ```cs public static GameObject LocalPlayer; void ...

to my movement script right?

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 10:37 PM

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yea it can be to movement script

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then in your SpawnPlayers class

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add condition

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    private void Start()
    {
        if(YourPlayerClass.LocalPlayer == null) {
        Vector2 randomPosition = new Vector2(Random.Range(minX, maxX), Random.Range(minY, maxY));
        PhotonNetwork.Instantiate(playerPrefab.name, randomPosition, Quaternion.identity);
        }
    } ```

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 10:38 PM

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river meteor try add to your player script ```cs public static GameObject LocalPlayer; void ...

what is YourPlayerClass

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in this case

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 10:39 PM

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As it the name says classname of player

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What is your player movement class?

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 10:40 PM

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river meteor As it the name says classname of player

public class MovementScript : MonoBehavior

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MovementScript?

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Or am i dumb

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 10:40 PM

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So replace YourPlayerClass with MovementScript

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Im confused

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 10:40 PM

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yep

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Yea

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ok

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 10:41 PM

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river meteor ```cs private void Start() { if(YourPlayerClass.LocalPlayer == n...

add this or delete the previous code on it?

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@river meteor when i tried ur thing i couldve move at all

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and i got this error

river meteor Jul 29, 2021, 11:01 PM

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ancient iris add this or delete the previous code on it?

Add

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What line 27 is?

ancient iris Jul 29, 2021, 11:02 PM

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river meteor Add

oh ok i replaced it

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ill re do then

weary forge Jul 30, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Anyone with photon experience

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What are the main differences between bolt and PUN

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What would fit best for a small scale multiplayer game with low costs (preferably non)

cunning sluice Jul 30, 2021, 2:59 AM

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So for Pun2 I added a OnOwnerChange to a script, and a targetcallback in the awake and destroy but it still doesn't work
Is there something else I need to have it receive the event for when the objects owner changes?

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Could it be I'm not inheriting from the right class?

weak plinth Jul 30, 2021, 6:11 AM

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anyone can solve bugs in photon? dm me

stone goblet Jul 30, 2021, 9:49 AM

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MLAPI - The type or namespace name 'NetworkBehaviour' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

olive vessel Jul 30, 2021, 10:33 AM

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stone goblet MLAPI - The type or namespace name 'NetworkBehaviour' could not be found (are y...

Did you add the namespace MLAPI?

stone goblet Jul 30, 2021, 10:36 AM

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olive vessel Did you add the namespace MLAPI?

I add MLAPI.Messaging

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and MLAPI networkvariable

olive vessel Jul 30, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Ok, NetworkBehaviour is from MLAPI, so add that namespace

stone goblet Jul 30, 2021, 10:37 AM

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olive vessel Ok, NetworkBehaviour is from MLAPI, so add that namespace

i can't install mlapi naturally

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when i enter the unity link it just does nothing

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i do it through manifest

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this correcly?

olive vessel Jul 30, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Ok, you still need the MLAPI namespace for NetworkBehaviour

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Alongside MLAPI.NetworkVariables for network vars

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And MLAPI.Messaging for RPCs

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So if you can import the latter two, I don't see why you can't import the former

stone goblet Jul 30, 2021, 10:40 AM

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olive vessel Ok, you still need the MLAPI namespace for NetworkBehaviour

ok