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[ionic mirage]

i sned you a private message so i can screen share

[grand snow]

checking if an if statement did anything is pretty basic

Debug Logs, visual indication or a debugger will let you know

hell input system even has an debugger thing for this

[vapid egret]

Hey, guys. I've been trying to get a question answered in the animation channel for the last week with no response. It seems like I'm on at the wrong time or something. May I post the question here to see if anyone can help?

[queen vale]

Guess it depends on the issue, what's up?

[vapid egret]

Any advice would be appreciated. This is a root motion setup, where the character's speed and direction are driven by the animation. My character seems to be playing jump rope between the back run and diagonal back run on both sides. I managed to somewhat solve the problem at certain coordinates previously by just duplicating animations in the coordinates in question, but I'm not sure if it's an acceptable solution since I'm new. I've made all of the animations start when the left foot hits the ground using offset. IK is on, and the layer has IK passing. if I turn either of them off, it all goes haywire.

[floral garden]

!code

[radiant void]

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[queen vale]

^
If it's bouncing between states I'd start with the code controlling the animator, then the conditions for the transitions between states.

[swift crag]

I wonder if you need a half-cycle offset on one of the animations

I am also doing humanoid root motion, and I mirrored all of my animations to get left-movement. All of those animations have a cycle offset of 0.5

If one animation tries to lead with the left foot and one lead with the right foot, they'll cancel out and give you a weird hovering effect

i badly need to record new animations 😭

goofy walk

[vapid egret]

yea. I've offset them to start as they land on the same foot.

[vapid egret]

here's the relevant code for the animator

animator.SetFloat("Strafe", input.x, 0.2f, Time.deltaTime);
animator.SetFloat("Forward", input.y, 0.2f, Time.deltaTime);
animator.SetFloat("Speed", input.magnitude, 0.2f, Time.deltaTime);

I'm not sure if the dampening is really making much of a difference though

[swift crag]

it's an issue with the blend-tree itself, yeah

[vapid egret]

Fen, when you offset your animations are you setting them when your character makes contact with the ground on the same foot or when they pick up the same foor?

[swift crag]

It shouldn't really matter

<@&502884371011731486> scam

[swift crag]

I guess you do want both feet on the ground at the start of the cycle, so that you can correctly start and stop playing the animation entirely

(i.e. if you go from some other state to the state that contains the blendtree)

[swift crag]

can you show the full inspector for the blend tree?

[vapid egret]

You want just the one tree or the forest lol. I got a 1d that branches to two 2ds for walking and running.

[swift crag]

whatever was being previewed in the video you sent!

[wintry quarry]

The code is never running

The default value isn't relevant

[queen vale]

Am I dumb and this was a syntax thing with "return;" not sitting within {}

[white zinc]

I got it now

[swift crag]

so it's causing problems when it blends between:

• Run_Loop_B_180
• Run_Loop_B_R_45

[vapid egret]

yes and Run_Loop_B_L45

[swift crag]

That really sounds like a problem with your cycle offset. What happens if you adjust the cycle offset of one of the two animations by 0.5?

[queen vale]

May I ask what the solution was?

[vapid egret]

It got better! Thank you. It's just an offset issue.

[swift crag]

nice (:

[white zinc]

I reworked the whole rotationPoint system it wasnt worked as intended

[swift crag]

Make sure the walk and run animations are consistent, too

otherewise you will get the same "hopping" behavior as you blend between them

note that blend trees will adjust the lengths of the animations to make them all sync up

This can cause some really weird behaviors if the animations have dramatically different lengths

[vapid egret]

Yeah I'm starting to understand why many people choose to move their characters with code, but I have to go this route for the combat I'm trying.

Thanks again. I'm going to get right on this.

[swift crag]

I use blend trees excessively...in VRChat, where everything happens in the animator

so i've been forced to learn about them, haha

[verbal dome]

Wdym by "everything"

Like game logic too?

[swift crag]

For avatars, it's all you really get

(Worlds can use Udon, which is slow enough that it's often faster to use animators for things like spinning objects)

[swift sedge]

I've heard nothing but bad things about the performance of Udon

[swift crag]

It's a very basic assembly language

it has like six instructions

almost everything is an extern call into a C# function

interestingly, this means you're incentivized to use existing Unity functions as much as possible

the actual C# is fast

[supple flume]

YES
I MADE AN ABILITY SYSTEM USING SCRIPTABLE OBJECTS RAHH

can i ask a question

how do i pause everything in scene

[supple flume]

ITs all Ai answers and i DO NOT support Ai

to the one who did Google emoji

[solar hill]

Apart from googles AI overview its really not...

im seeing plenty of good answers here in the first few results... looking it up myself

[grand snow]

Setting timescale to 0 is babys first pause

[solar hill]

its also the first answer you see when you actually google it

what a coincidence 🤯

[ivory bobcat]

https://gamedevbeginner.com/the-right-way-to-pause-the-game-in-unity/

[supple flume]

Update and fixed Update will run?

as i understood it doesnt

[grand snow]

Yes but it will "freeze" physics
If you have logic that runs over time that uses delta time then that is affected too

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/Time-timeScale.html

[supple flume]

So i can still Manage thro Uis?

[grand snow]

UI animation can use unscaled time to work as normal

[analog cypress]

is this somewhere i can go for questions on coding for scripts?

or a different text chat?

[slender nymph]

did you perhaps read the description for the channel you are posting in?

[analog cypress]

lol

im just trying to write a script for like any tag i put on set entities to be lockable. ill figure out the camera placement after wards i just wanted to make sure if i am writing this correctly so far idk anyone could take a look at it for me.

also not sure if i should use other.CompareTag(nameoftag) when checking for a tag

[slender nymph]

you absolutely should use the CompareTag method when checking a tag, unlike string equality it won't just silently fail if you try to compare against a tag that doesn't exist, it's also slightly faster

[verbal dome]

Theres even that new faster overload that takes a TagHandle instead of a string, never seen anyone use it though

[analog cypress]

ok thats good and since im using this as a camera lock on should i use the same main camera thats on my current character to put it in the folder the lockable entity? or should i make a different camera for it?

[frigid lark]

hi! i have a modular room system in place, however I am curious if there is a way to make a plane scale between two points, rather than by a pivot point. kind of like setting an anchor on two sides, and having the plane scale that way. Im not too sure where to start, or if its even possible. Thanks!

https://streamable.com/qzjooo

[verbal dome]

Set its position to the center of the points (a + b) * 0.5f

[frigid lark]

its the scale im talking about

[verbal dome]

Then set its scale to fit the difference of those points

[frigid lark]

ohh righto

[verbal dome]

But this affects position so I said that as the first step

[frigid lark]

yeah

its really annoying isnt it lol

[verbal dome]

Idk, it became pretty intuitive for me after dealing with vectors a bunch

[frigid lark]

yeah fr

[verbal dome]

What I suggested does not take rotation into account btw

[frigid lark]

yeha i know

[verbal dome]

But seems like things are axis aligned?

[frigid lark]

uhh kind of

ive made it so that it doesnt require rotation

all the textures are tiled based on world pos

and everything scales nicely

so when it comes time to make a bunch of rooms for the game I'll have a system that can let me pump out one room every 30 minutes 🔥

[verbal dome]

So it's like, procedural but pre generated?

[frigid lark]

in a sense

the skirting is all instantiated in editor

but the script i have uses custom editor ui, and it lets me do all sorts of fun shit

so essentially i have one room prefab, i can scale it on all axis to whatever size i want, have an entrance on any side i want

have skirting automatically done for my

everything is already grid aligned

its awesome

[verbal dome]

Cool

Yeah grid aligned is what sane people do

Everything else is just asking for trouble lol

[frigid lark]

exactly

well

idkhow to explain it

are there vcs in this server

[verbal dome]

Nope

[frigid lark]

oof

my brain hurts

what would i do to scale it

i know the difference of the two points but

planes are like 5x5units

[boreal ibex]

wouldn't you just measure the gap, move it to the center, align it, then scale it and that would do effectively what u want

[frigid lark]

yeah ig so

[verbal dome]

(b - a) / 5

Would be the scale

Division by 5 because of the plane size

[frigid lark]

im a certified professional dumbass

[verbal dome]

Isnt it 10x10 though

[frigid lark]

wdym

[verbal dome]

The plane

[frigid lark]

oh probbly

[verbal dome]

Idk i dont have unity open

[frigid lark]

actually nah the approach i was doing before is the better one imo

because you need to scale either side of the doorway IF theres a door, but if not, scale the full wall

actually nvm

OKAY

RIGHT

SO THE MAGIC NUMBER WAS 12

WTF

[boreal ibex]

if the mesh is 12 world units long yeah

[frigid lark]

the stupid thing is

is that i based it on the skirting

each skirting unit is 1.2 units in unity

omg what

ok

@verbal dome wanna call

my brain is melted

[verbal dome]

Nah im good

[frigid lark]

aight

[verbal dome]

Just ask here

Someone/I will help if we can

[frigid lark]

i have a wall prefab right

thats what handles all the wall shit

but when i have multiple walls

[verbal dome]

One coherent message please

[frigid lark]

it specifically never works for the north or south walls

[frigid lark]

sorry

SO:

My wall prefab contains the empty gameobjects recognised as the points to scale with.

Example: Border of Door Arch, Room Corner, etc.

I then run those through scripting to scale. It works great. thanks for that. However, my room consists of:

A floor
A ceiling
4x Wall Prefabs (copy and paste, im trying to make it so that you dont need to manually adjust references etc)
And a skirting parent, the object that containts all of the skirting, just for tidyness sake

its not:

Incorrect scaling, im scaling locally so it cant be that

I dont believe its in scripting, Ive tried changing the wall reference in the master Room script from north to east.

[prisma shard]

Is there a generally agreed upon coding IDE to use for Unity. I am getting suggested a particular one often and im wondering what u guys are using

[frigid lark]

i use visual studio 2022

2022 not 2019, sorry

[boreal ibex]

visual studio is what most people use probably

[verbal dome]

VS, VSCode or Rider usually

[boreal ibex]

vscode and rider being the other 2 main ones

[frigid lark]

notepad if im feeling cocky

[verbal dome]

I don't have much experience with VS but VS Code is the most lightweight, Rider has a good feature set

VS probably sits somewhere in between

Rider is free for non-commercial projects only

[boreal ibex]

visual studios the best option featurewise/pricewise, but its also the slowest

[verbal dome]

I do not see a question here 🤔

[boreal ibex]

it just looks like you are mixing up world co-ordinates and local co-ordinates somewhere

cant really tell much more than that

[prisma shard]

How could rider possibly even know if it's commercial or not. If commercial is as broad as I'm thinking it sounds like a useless program

[boreal ibex]

like most companies, they get people when an angry ex coworker dobs them in lol

[hardy wing]

Honorable vim mention 🤝

[hardy wing]

VS works perfectly fine, no configuration needed (unlike VSC)

[verbal dome]

It was chugging like crazy on my machine so it was unusable sadly

[hardy wing]

Not like Rider uses any less resources

[verbal dome]

Yeah, but at least it is usable for me

[hardy wing]

Fair

[verbal dome]

I still fire up VS Code if i need to quickly look at some code in another project though

[hardy wing]

Time to start learning vim for minimum resources 🤝

[verbal dome]

1 sec vs 10+ sec bootup

[hardy wing]

I genuinely don't know why VS Code takes so long at time to start

Gladfully only use that piece of software for web stuff

[verbal dome]

Hmm I mean it starts up fast for me

In 2-3 seconds

[hardy wing]

Yeah I just tested it again on my linux system and it's quite fast

Maybe I started comparing it to NPP early on and then the idea of "slower start" stuck

[verbal dome]

Just tested and Rider took ~20 seconds before I saw any of the code in my project lol

But I just never close it so it's not an issue (unless i run outta ram)

[hardy wing]

Low specs huh? Rider is not fast for me but not that slow.

[verbal dome]

3700X CPU

@4.2GHz

I don't know what people call "low specs" these days

[hardy wing]

Me neither

[verbal dome]

Okay it's not that bad if I open thet solution directly

Under 10 seconds

[hardy wing]

Yeah sounds about what I have too

[verbal dome]

But it's a bit choppy until it has properly warmed up

[hardy wing]

Yeah it needs to re-index the entire file structure every time you open it, it's a bit annoying

[timber nacelle]

i just made an xr game, how do i play it on my headset now?

[queen vale]

You'll need to enable the corresponding 'plugin'.
If you're using Oculus (Quest) I think you'll need to enable it within the server tab.

[timber nacelle]

ok, but how do i connect it?

i mean the game to the vr because just pressing start with airlink wont do it

[queen vale]

If you're using quest you might need to enable developer settings within meta. One second I'll look it up

[queen vale]

Not called dev. settings, my bad.

• Have Unity (the game tab) selected when playing.
• In Meta or whatever it is, Settings > General, allow Unknown sources
• Make sure that “Meta Quest Link” is set to On
• In Unity, Edit > Project Settings > XR Plugin Management, make sure it initializes XR on startup.

[lunar axle]

is garbage collection a thing to keep in mind for optimize?

[timber nacelle]

i dont get, why the hell is this so complicated. i just went to that airlink hub or whatever it it is, then went to desktop and monitor 1 and presses play on unity. i dont get what to do different

[frail hawk]

there are more inportant things you could optimize your game instead of taking care of manual garbage collection

[queen vale]

Waxy you're killing me

[lunar axle]

so is it important to consider?

[verbal dome]

Yeah stop that emote spam

[verbal dome]

Generally you want to reuse class instances instead of allocating them and then throwing them away every frame, for example

But if you are a beginner I would not stress about it too much

[queen vale]

Welcome to programming/game dev.
I'm not familiar with the quest stuff. I do steamvr/valve index. So I can't offer much advice.

[lunar axle]

i mean i do try to make it as optimal as possible, but its really hard most cases not to make new instances sometimes for example position recording.

[verbal dome]

A position is a struct so it's not very relevant here. It does not generate garbage by itself

[tranquil forge]

when should i use material property block instead of .material and changing it

[verbal dome]

Struct vs class is a concept you should learn before even thinking about this

Or stack vs heap memory

[frail hawk]

could it be that you are coming from some programing language where you´d have to do the garbage collecting on your own?

[lunar axle]

sorry for misunderstanding u, for me im currently doing a system like this:

public struct StateRecording
{
      public List<StateFrame> frames;
}

public struct StateFrame
{
    public Vector3 pos;
    public Quaternion rot;
}

[soft iris]

Hi everyone, I'm having trouble assigning my character prefabs to the NetworkPrefabs list in the NetworkManager. Even though I try to drag and drop them, the list doesn't seem to accept the prefabs.

[frail hawk]

because in c# there is the garbage collector doing this job for you

[lunar axle]

and whenever i run this everytime the gc just kept spiking up, and lags my game

[queen vale]

Need more context. Could be the variable type you're trying to store them in, isn't what they are.

[verbal dome]

What is it doing exactly?
Are you creating a new list every frame?

Need context

[lunar axle]

not every frame specifically, every x seconds.

cuz if every frame it lags af

[soft iris]

Even though I added a network object to it and registered the character in the assets section, it's not being defined there.

[frail hawk]

#1390346492019212368

[verbal dome]

But what happens in the code

Nothing is allocated on the heap in the code you showed

(Heap = gets garbage collected)

In short: You should just reuse the same List instance

The List (class) being stored inside a struct might be a code smell. Show how you actually use it

[lunar axle]

Sorry for bejn an idiot but i dont understand

[verbal dome]

Well I also don't understand because you aren't giving any context 😅

How are you using this struct

Show code

[queen vale]

^ #1390346492019212368 | NetworkObject isn't a GameObject like a prefab is. So if you're trying to store a reference to a component named NetworkObject, you need the variable/list that holds that reference to be that type.

[sour fulcrum]

they are not the ones defining the list

[queen vale]

I'm no expert, what'd I say that's wrong

[sour fulcrum]

networkprefabs list is a ngo thing

[verbal dome]

It's not recommended to use material property blocks with URP/HDRP if you are using those
They use the SRP batcher which works per shader variant, not per material, so material instance is preferred (from my understanding)

[queen vale]

I'm trying to lookup that term 'ngo', but they did mention "assigning my character prefabs to the NetworkPrefabs list" so they're trying to place a GameObject within a list. Thus the list must be made for GameObjects ( List<GameObject> things = new List<GameObject>();) right?

[sour fulcrum]

sure

but they dont get to make the list

they need to add a NetworkPrefab to the list, as that is its type

[celest abyss]

Is there any general chat in this server?

[frail hawk]

no

[queen vale]

I definitely need to look into the networking stuff.

[lunar axle]

Kk

[tender mirage]

I'm having abit of a problem when it comes to using linq for a dictionary. i'm trying to reorder my dictionary by name. But order by seemingly is doing nothing here.

    //Assign to debug list
    this.storedDataTiles = storedDataTiles;

    //Update debug ui
    debugUI.UpdateStoredTilesText();



    //Sort keys by name
    storedDataTiles.Keys.OrderBy(key => key.name);

    //Return stored data tiles
    return storedDataTiles;


}

[verbal dome]

OrderBy returns a new IEnumerable, it does not modify an existing one

Keys are read only anyway

[grand snow]

And dictionaries dont care about order or try to keep an order so this is a dumb idea

If order matters you need a new collection like a List with the keys in some order you want

@tender mirage ^

[lunar axle]

https://pastecode.io/s/tkhdaj5d

[verbal dome]

(Man that site is annoying on mobile, popups, ads, and it opens the keyboard when i try to scroll)

[lunar axle]

i never knew that feeling when theres an adblocker

[tender mirage]

I totally forgot that dictionaries didn't care about ordering.

Thanks for the reminder.

[grand snow]

General advice. public void StartRecording() should return bool to indicate success

[verbal dome]

So the only real allocation i see here is the new() for the frames List

So you can reuse it instead by replacing that with .Clear instead

Also do you know how structs vs. classes work?

[grand snow]

Creating lists with a good initial size and clearing them will improve things a lot

[verbal dome]

Structs are copied when you pass them around

Classes are passed by reference (not copy)

[lunar axle]

Thats a new thing to me

[grand snow]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/builtin-types/value-types
This explains the differences with value types

[verbal dome]

And yeah rob's advice about pre-allocating it with an initial capacity is good

Otherwise the list starts with a capacity of like 4 (or 0?) and then every time you add more and the capacity is exceeded, it will allocate a new internal array double the size of the original

4 -> 8 -> 16 -> 32 -> 64... Lots of allocations so if you know you will have for example ~1000 elements then create the list with that capacity: new List<MyType>(1000)

If that went over your head then just focus on the value vs. reference type for now

[lunar axle]

If we can set the intial size and it improves the gc then good

But is it ok if we dont use all the space?

[verbal dome]

That's fine, you just "waste" a bit of memory but it's miniscule in this case

Better than constant pressure on thet garbage collector

[grand snow]

Allocation and deallocation has cost so its usually better to use a tad more memory instead

If you know you may need to add up to 16 elements but it could be only 8? Make the list be 16 to start.

[lunar axle]

the thing is i dont know what the duration of the recording is.

[verbal dome]

I was cooking up some analogy about apartment sizes, moving to different apartments and getting new family members but i gave up

[lunar axle]

i got it dw

[lunar axle]

so like less ram?

[grand snow]

In that case you can maybe make a guess for the start size

[verbal dome]

Yeah with "memory" we usually refer to RAM

[sour fulcrum]

random guess but you could probably add the size of a second when you start + whenever you fill that up? or a similar amount of time

[grand snow]

Just know that when a list needs to resize all data has to be copied to the new internal array

[lunar axle]

alr

well then i think either i make the recording duration constant or just set to like 1000

[grand snow]

And as you maybe just learnt, an array of a struct has a lot more data to copy.
Anyway you should use the profiler to check if such things are actually an issue before trying to over optimise.

[verbal dome]

From this message I assume you profiled it?

[lunar axle]

does an array of classes makes it better?

[lunar axle]

yea but maybe its not really from this script in particular but the sum of the idiotic scripts i made

[grand snow]

It does but then we start getting into more advanced stuff (as iterating over an array of structs is a lot faster)

I dont want to get too deep here and confuse you. Stick with a struct.

[lunar axle]

i really wanna improve, so go on

[grand snow]

Have a read on the topic here. The overview though is that data thats all together in RAM is quicker to iterate over.
Classes are reference types so a list of them is actually just a list of pointers to many places in ram (where the class instance data is).
https://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/data-locality.html

[lunar axle]

thanks man:)

[lunar axle]

Cant believe ppl do this for free u could start a course (lowkey) xd

[gaunt atlas]

can someone lmk like the best way to learn how to make a third person game with a camera kinda like how roblox's looks (without the zooming in and out), like I just need to know what exactly Im meant to use in the script. I believe I should probably put a camera as a child of a parent object which I will have as my player, and then I make the parent object rotate according to my keyboard input, right? but how do I do that whats the logic

Ive been trynna find a way to actually learn things but Ive never really found an actual useful video or anything, theyre all about copy what I just did

[swift sedge]

look into Cinemachine

[gaunt atlas]

Ive seen that pop up but isnt that just something to make things easier

I wanna be good at the fundamentals

[timber tide]

third person camera are just generally hard

there's a lot of ways you can configure one with that being said

control relativity is up to preference

[gaunt atlas]

my issue is mostly: lets say I want the camera to be always at a specific radius from a certain position

and I want it to not rotate looking up or down past x angle

I dont know how to achieve that

[frail hawk]

with clamping the rotation

[swift sedge]

float newAngle = Mathf.Clamp(currentAngle, min, max)

[gaunt atlas]

I should make this clear btw Im super new like downloaded unity a couple days ago and opened it once 🥀 mb

[gaunt atlas]

thanks ill look through unity documentation

[dense basin]

Friends, I need help with setting up a sleep system and logging system, including shelf and product registration. Please write to me.

[frail hawk]

no one will dm you, just aks here

[timber tide]

It's actually not ideal to child the camera to your object, but in many cases it will work fine. It's just that you're more likely to run into desync issues if your character updates in a different timestep than the update of the camera.

Which is why cinemachine is a good option too as it handles a lot of that complexity

[gaunt atlas]

as a noob I assume you mean for example if I want the player to ALWAYS be visible it'll cause me trouble, yes? for example if I approach a wall I wouldnt want the camera to since its always at a certain distance to its parented object, the player, go through the wall, and to handle that it'd be a mess while having it as a child of the player?

[timber tide]

More that character controllers update in a fixed update but smooth out their translation in update, but this can somewhat conflict with how the camera captures it all. Usually just keeping the camera movement in late update works fine, but it's not unlikely you run into some frame inconsistencies.

But you're also correct about it being a bit more complicated to manage camera collision when it is child to the object... which cinemachine also does pretty well lol.

[dense basin]

How can I create a sleeping system and a shelving and product storage system? Can you help me?

[gaunt atlas]

so use cinemachine

😭

bet

[timber tide]

it's probably one of unity's best tools that's for sure

[celest abyss]

Cinemachine

[floral garden]

use cinemachine men haha i try to make a system of camera and it is hard asf for nothing xD

[swift sedge]

camera systems are the last thing you want to spend time and procrastinate on in game development

good for learning, but for production I would just use cinemachine

[floral garden]

even for learning,if you don't have a solid base, you will just get lose or get a bad system

(I talk by experience hahaha)

[frail hawk]

please ask a particular question, really unclear

[dense basin]

It doesn't record the shelf. When I start and stop it, it goes away. I want it to record when I put the shelf somewhere.

[frail hawk]

so post the relevant code

[dense basin]

Where can I send it? There is a furniture controller, there is a rafspace controller.

[frail hawk]

!code

[radiant void]

Posting code

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[tranquil forge]

so for the .material, this will create alot of material instances take up memory but run best if the scene use different materials from same shader
and materialBlock will only need to create one instance for every renderer, and run best for when gpu is peferred like lots of object from the same material

did i get it right fr

[verbal dome]

Something like that yeah

Main point being that SRP batcher (urp/hdrp) only cares about shader variants, not materials

MaterialPropertyBlock was more useful when we wanted to avoid creating new material instances, to avoid breaking batching in the older GPU instancing/batching system

You might want to test it though and/or ask in #1390346776804069396

[errant breach]

Hey, so im struggling to understand list despite watching tutorials. But basically, i have multiple list inside one list. How can i make so that the first element in the list can be a gameObject ? Thanks !

By the way, i would like to thank you for the support ! I was very busy to say it but you really took time to help me and this is very kind of you :)

[ivory bobcat]

First element of which list? listColorList or colorList. All elements inside the list would be the same type.

[errant breach]

Of "colorList" ! Ah, i see...

[ivory bobcat]

What exactly were you trying to do? If you can explain, we may be able to give you further suggestions.

[rough granite]

You dont, a list can only have one type.

[errant breach]

By the way i dont exactly understand how to ask for "floats" instead of colors ! Sorry if this this code is disgusting 😅

[errant breach]

Sooo im working on a gameEngine for a SpaceShooter, i want to allow my classmate to easily create various enemies.
I want them to be able to create multiple attacks using list. One list is a attack, and the list containt :
1 - The GameObject to summon
2 - The time before the attack start
3 - The duration of the attack
4 - The duration of the cooldown

But i dont think i have the knowledge to make it easily 😅

[floral garden]

wut? your ColorsList take a float but then after you try to access a list from a float

[rough granite]

you changed your lists to be of type float from the last image being of type color and you are tying to return this float as a color

[errant breach]

Ah, i understand my mistake now.. So i should use public float GetColor() to avoid this error ? (Or a int)

[rough granite]

no a float is not anything close to a color

[errant breach]

I think I'm confusing the name (of the classes/functions) with the types 🤔

Because i no longer wants any colors, only float

[tender mirage]

What type would you use to return a Color?

[errant breach]

Sorry if i look dumb 😅

[rough granite]

then the question of would this work is yes but you should change the name of the function to match.
also this only ever returns the first element meaning there is no point to it being a list in a list

[errant breach]

a Vector3 i think.. But now i no longer want a color, i only want lists you can put float inside !

[rough granite]

not a vector3 colors are 4 different bytes one for each colour (red, green, blue, alpha)

[ivory bobcat]

You should probably change the name. colors imply it's a list of color(s).

[errant breach]

Thanks for your suggestions. I changed the function's name and type, and added "valA" and "valB" to go through the entire list.
Now, im being hit with the error :

'float' does not contain a definition for 'value' and no accessible extension method 'value' accepting a first argument of type 'float' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

I do understand that i'm using the wrong type, but i dont understand what else should i use..

[rough granite]

the two underlined parts should match

you just currently have two completely seperate lists in different classes with no reference between them

[ivory bobcat]

Are you simply trying to make a multidimensional array of floats?

[errant breach]

I dont understand, have you underlined the wrong line ? "float" instead of "ValueList" ?
If not, im basically deadlost

[rough granite]

no i underlined the error, or well what'd make it

[errant breach]

like "Values" and "ValueList" should match but doesn't...

[ivory bobcat]

public List<Values> colorList

[errant breach]

OOH

The error is now fixed...

[ivory bobcat]

What's this float value for?

Value isn't really self explanatory

[errant breach]

Guys, thanks for the help. Now it's time for me to walk outside as i did like 40h of unity in one week and i think im starting to become like.. Crazy or smth.. 😅

[errant breach]

True...

• ATTACK ONE
• CooldownA
• Cooldown B
• Cooldown C

ATTACK TWO

• Cooldown A
• Cooldown B
• Cooldown C

this is how it should appear

so i think "Values" should be renamed "attack"

[ivory bobcat]

Yeah and value would be cooldowns

[river imp]

Hlo

Here Anyone can teach me c # ?

[vital barn]

!lern

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<:error:1413114584763596884> Command not found

There's no command called lern.

[ivory bobcat]

!learn

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[errant breach]

Herreee we go

Now it's time for me to WALK OUTSIDE or sleep idk 😅

Thanks guys !!!

[errant breach]

Oh, i forgot about context.
In my school we only have two weeks to make a entire game in group and im the only programmer so i have to learn everything on the road.

Once the two weeks will be finished, i'll make sure to watch the tutorials !

[undone pier]

does unity have any data type that allow assignment of logic? I have been using SerializedReference but these get erased as i change the class' name

other than that there is reflection but i doubt its any faster

[timber tide]

composition and usage of scriptable objects

[undone pier]

ye but is there any data type that accepts a delegate?

that can be selected in the inspector

[timber tide]

You can serialize unity listeners /events with the editor but otherwise need to write some extra boilerplate to bind stuff like that

[undone pier]

I see. Thanks

[timber tide]

Usually those have limited data types too. I think it's usually just like int/floats/strings

and usually you don't expect return values anyway

Like the Button class for instance

[undone pier]

ye i guess serializedReference is the best option rn

[timber tide]

Godot's signals a bit more versatile because the typing isn't always specific

The problem isn't so much that you couldn't serialize it all, it's just that Unity's editor doesn't really have that support.

Much like interface serialization, it's a bit ambiguous without a bit more of that boilerplate

[somber granite]

having an issue with no global 2d lights showing up in my build: i have a main menu level select scene and levels, and scene transitions are done with SceneManagement.LoadScene(). When i dragged all my levels into the hierarchy to test the level transitions in the editor, i initially got a “more than one global light on layer…” error that went away after unloading the level scenes and leaving only the main menu. after building, it appears as if all of the lights are gone, the scenes all look super dark, except for the canvas UI. i had one global light 2d in each scene, set to light “everything” in the layer select

[granite elk]

hello, i have a problem, i have an object that orbits in my player(the object rotates in the mouse position), but when the player and the object are in a wall and i move my mouse opposite the player the object will push my player but i dont want that, i even deactivated the collision between the two in the physic collider matrix

[frail hawk]

do you need the collider on the orbiter object

[frail hawk]

#1390346776804069396

[mystic lantern]

I can do a simple job for 5-10 euros. I have some experience writing code in Unity. If you need anything, please let me know.

[solar hill]

!collab

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[grand snow]

An alternative would be use an interface and serialize a monobehaviour reference.
Would need validation however in OnValidate()

[granite elk]

yeah, im trying to make a magnet so to attract something i need it

[timber nacelle]

guys how do i play a unity game on an ocolus? 1. im in the engine 2. i pressed on start 3. when i press a button on the joystick the fingers move but i cant look around and move.

[frail hawk]

you can make the collider isTrigger but still use the colliders boundaries

[granite elk]

but if i attract something the object will trapass the magnet

[frail hawk]

you could manually correct the position of the incoming object

[timber nacelle]

can my question please not get ignored?

[frail hawk]

#🥽┃virtual-reality

[granite elk]

ok i could try that thanks

no that cant work because it will trapass walls

[twin pivot]

Make the collider ignore whatever layer the player is on

[timber nacelle]

hello? i have a question in #🥽┃virtual-reality

[solar hill]

Dont crosspost

if someone has an answer youl get it in #🥽┃virtual-reality

you also spammed your question multiple times and ignored every response you got.....

[timber nacelle]

well i never got an response

[solar hill]

now you're lying

[timber nacelle]

yes, i did got an answer, but it didnt really work, and my questionw was "how to play on ocolus" and the only answer i got was something with dev settings or smth and it dosent really work

[fickle plume]

Ask a full question in the appropriate channel and wait for an answer without spamming, then someone might answer it

[timber nacelle]

i did ask a full question and sorry that i dont want to wait 3 hours for an answer

[fickle plume]

Then like you've been told before already, do you own research

[solar hill]

but you didnt ask a full question, at least not one thats clear

[granite elk]

How?

[fickle plume]

@timber nacelle Use appropriate channel and stop bickering

[timber nacelle]

i asked the question on the virtual channel but after 2 hours not even a single answer

[fickle plume]

No one here is at your beckoning call to give you answers. When people are inclined to and have time they will answer. Also if they can understand the question...

[frail hawk]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/Physics.IgnoreLayerCollision.html
https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/Physics.IgnoreCollision.html

it is still allitle bit unclear what you want to achive but you might want to take a look at these

[fickle plume]

You need to explain in more detail what you are actually doing, and maybe illustrate it with a video or screenshots.

[frail hawk]

you could also open a thread in the #1390346827005431951

[fickle plume]

Preferably, yes ^^

[granite elk]

okay

[bronze fable]

Can someone give me a basic explanation as to why the Add Score function in the second picture isn't working, I'm working with guides and have 0 experience coding otherwise

Says I'm having a CS1061 issue

[solar hill]

do you have a gameobject with the tag Logic in your scene

that also has a script called "TriggerScript"

[bronze fable]

Attached to a txt in order to display a score

[solar hill]

attached to a what

[bronze fable]

Attached to this

[solar hill]

theres no triggerscript there....

you have scorecounter... not triggerscript

youre searching for a triggerscript component in your code

[bronze fable]

Oh wait nevermind I have it attached here mb

Thats where my trigger script is

It's just named 'trigger script', but it's a custom script

I barely know what I'm doing I am sorry I'm a day one learner

[solar hill]

right, but the game object needs the tag "Logic"

i think youre missing some very basic fundamentals here

!learn

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[solar hill]

i suggest you start learning with the unity pathways

[bronze fable]

I did it's on the logic manager lol

Unless you mean both need it

[solar hill]

I Realllyyyyyy think you should go through those learning pathways

because you are writing code that you have no clue how it functions

thats not good, and its not a good way to learn

[bronze fable]

yeahhh you're probably right

[grand snow]

day 1: use tag to find script
day 2: stop using tags they are shit

[bronze fable]

https://youtu.be/XtQMytORBmM?si=7jQYmZ-OFGsU90ve

I'm just following this guide

from 3 years ago

[solar hill]

Never trust those who sell shovels in a goldrush

use the pathways, much better tutorials

[grand snow]

I cant comment on its quality but comparing tags and finding objects by name are not things you use past the beginner stage.
Fine to use to get started and learn some things but after this id recommend against it.

[bronze fable]

I'm just gonna finish this tutorial and then move on to newer ones

If I give up now I ain't ever learning lmao

[grand snow]

Yea its best to find some tutorial and try to complete it to learn some things!

[bronze fable]

Any pointers? I'm a hands on kinda guy, I don't really like listening lmao

[grand snow]

If you can serialize a reference to something (drag in a reference in inspector) then do that instead of trying to find something by name.
Why? Brakes way less often 😆

[elder hearth]

So I'm either really dumb or over looking smth obvious(i am quite tired), but my isGrounded is working

cs
using UnityEngine;

public class GroundedCheck : MonoBehaviour
{
public bool isGrounded = true;

    private void OnCollisionEnter(Collision collision)
    {
        if(collision.collider.tag == "Player")
        {
            return;
        }
        isGrounded = true;
    }
    private void OnCollisionExit(Collision collision)
    {
        if (collision.collider.tag == "Player")
        {
            return;
        }
        isGrounded = false;
    }
}

It is retuning false, it is being called in my movement script

[elder hearth]

This is so real, i have broken smth one too many times by not using a serialized reference lol

[dusky marsh]

hi all, I am just starting off and going through tutorial on Unity website. aI have got this far but Unity is saying there is an error with this and I cannot see where. I triple checked the tutorial to see but I cant spot the mistake. Can anyone see it ? thanks

[solar hill]

show us the error

[ivory bobcat]

Place some logs and see what they print

[solar hill]

also your ide needs to be set up

!ide

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[elder hearth]

Oki

[elder hearth]

Still showing true, could it be that the collider somehow isn't running OnCollisionEnter and OnCollisionExit?

[dusky marsh]

trying this now thank you so much

[ivory bobcat]

Isn't that the purpose of the logs? You would know.

[solar hill]

you could place the logs outside of the if statements

inside the collision methods

[elder hearth]

Setting the default to false still returns true when on the ground. Being in the air doesnt make it false

[elder hearth]

ok, one sec

[dusky marsh]

does this help ? thanks. Here is course I am following https://learn.unity.com/course/2d-beginner-game-sprite-flight/tutorial/random-obstacle-size-direction-and-speed?version=6.3

[solar hill]

d - > D

[elder hearth]

So they aren't running. Great

I only get true in the console

[dusky marsh]

oh my god. Its College all over again 😄 thank you

[rough granite]

does the object this groundcheck class is one have a rigidbody?

Just checking for reasons why it wouldn't run

What about the collider type that this class is using?

[elder hearth]

No, the parent(player) has one

[elder hearth]

Circle

[rough granite]

Sorry could you send a photo of the collider in inspector

[rough granite]

Thats the game scene not inspector ~_~

I suspect you are using a trigger collider and which if you are you should be using OnTriggerEnter not OnCollisionEnter (same with the exist function)

Edit: nvm you arent

[elder hearth]

Sorry, im very tried lol

[rough granite]

All good

[elder hearth]

I will try making it a trigger and use those funcs instead one sec

[raw veldt]

!code

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[ivory bobcat]

That isn't the issue. For a collision event to occur, one of the two objects need a rigid body component.

[elder hearth]

oh yeah

Thought my tired dumbass over looked smth 😭

[rough granite]

They did say the parent object has one; is this not enough?

[elder hearth]

Wait but the parent has one?

[elder hearth]

Right? I could of sworen it was

[rough granite]

Try putting the ground check in the parent object

[elder hearth]

oki

[ivory bobcat]

I had only seen the inspector shown above.

[raw veldt]

im trying to understand this code. its doing the same thing as this screenshot right? https://paste.ofcode.org/36kVT7RfAVjfb38gakQvPYQ

[elder hearth]

It works!

[raw veldt]

like where you add callback context to make your input handler work

all that used to be in my character controller

[rough granite]

Nice i would still recommend making the circle for ground checks a trigger as this adds an extra height lifting the character off the ground when not

[elder hearth]

I think the issue is the overlapping colliders

[elder hearth]

Yeah, now i gotta find a way to fix it tho

[rough granite]

If you add a layer to the player object (not ground check child) you can set the ground check collider to ignore that player layer

[raw veldt]

i made that script before there were manuals to the new input system... should i keep it how it is or change it like the guy is doing in the tutorial/screenshot

[elder hearth]

Hmmm, okay. So pretty much just make a player layer(lol) and make the trigger ignore that

[rough granite]

Yeah

[rough granite]

The exlude layer in layer overrides here is how you would

[elder hearth]

Yeah ik, dw. Thanks tho. I will report back to you if it works or not

[elder hearth]

It works, thank you so much!

[spring hamlet]

does anyone know a good way to keep NavMeshAgents/enemies following a path from forming "conga lines" when they're trying to get somewhere as a group? can I get away with making the characters themselves NavMeshObstacles or is there some particular way I have to manipulate the path's corners?

[raw veldt]

would you just make them ignore eachothers physics colliders

[spring hamlet]

that's the complete opposite of what I want

because then they'd just stack onto each other and pile up at corners or intersections

[raw veldt]

usually they give some them ranged abilities

some of them

[spring hamlet]

that's totally besides the point

[solar hill]

theres a lot of ways to approach this imo, your best bet is local avoidance of some kind

[raw veldt]

theres like a spacing thing around the player i was looking at on linkedin earlier

[spring hamlet]

do you have an example I can follow?
it's worth noting I'm not entirely using stock NavMeshAgents and I have rigidbodies following a path calculated for them

[raw veldt]

make them select spots around the player and go there instead of to the player

force them to pick different spots

[solar hill]

You can randomize the avoidance priorities per agent

something like: agent.avoidancePriority = Random.Range(30, 70);

that alone makes them less likely to form a conga line, but its a subtle fix in the end, all it does it makes them all yield differently so they stop following the exact same paths, with leads to more lateral separation

[spring hamlet]

does this also affect the paths NavMeshAgents themselves generate? (that's how they get their paths)

[solar hill]

im not exactly sure

youl have to test it out

Another thing i personally did was have different agent "personalities" inspired by pacmans ghosts, certain personalities behave slightly differently, and the randomized avoidancePriority was built into that

[spring hamlet]

if it doesn't work where can I start for calculating avoidance myself

[analog cypress]

Im not sure if anyone can help me with my script that im having trouble with. To walk through the point of my script i wanted to set a tag that i can give to entities that i wish to be "Lockable" and if that said entity has that tag and you use the middle mouse button on it, it would start to lock on to that entity. In order words i am trying to create a target camera lock on system like something from elden ring or zelda. It is giving me a couple of issues being: Monobehavior not being found, Locking.Locking() must declare a body. And that it needs a return type and im just at a loss right now.

[sour fulcrum]

!ide

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[analog cypress]

I'm confused on the purpose of this command? Should I send/show or specify something?

[sour fulcrum]

your visual studio is not working correctly

and is not showing you the problem

[analog cypress]

oh ok thank you

[stuck cedar]

Can anyone teach me unity

And c#

[twin pivot]

!learn

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[stuck cedar]

Help me to learn

[frosty hound]

Nobody here (or anyone for that matter) is going to be your free personal tutor. Unity has plenty of resources for getting you started.

[queen vale]

Create, create more, create again, learn from mistakes, don't fret over making an entire game at first, make projects for the sake of learning, read, watch tutorials but actually look into what they're saying don't just copy-paste.

[brave token]

is there any way i can learn unity if i already know c#

every tutorials i watch just say "copy paste this complicated code" without explaining

[queen vale]

There's definitely a way and if you're already familiar with the language you're off to a great start.
My process was taking the code from the tutorial and changes certain values, etc. And seeing what happened / how they relate / etc.
Is there a specific example of your issue?

[brave token]

i want to make a fps game and every time the tutorial types code it confuses me and he never explains what each variable, arguments or methods do and how they get information from the engine.

and since the tutorial is kinda outdated, i come across errors that he doesn't

[queen vale]

That's quite the umbrella, whenever you come across something you don't yet understand I'd recommend Unity Docs. so you can see an example / usage / related properties.
Yea, some old tutorials can use some deprecated functions. But there should be new ones, might use some extra variables or whatnot but serve the same/similar purpose.
There's also the forum where you might find someone else with the same question and hopefully an answer to it.

[wraith hornet]

How can i call "Unity_SampleGradient_float" in a custom function in hlsl ?

[brave token]

thanks bro

[queen vale]

No worries. If you have a specific example / error, someone in here can probably help if they see it.

[ornate cosmos]

u already learn wuts class and instance?

[brave token]

you mean objects?

yeah i learned them from bro code. i watched the entire c# playlist

[ornate cosmos]

the public member variables of a class will be displayed in the Inspector of the editor, so if you create a new code file, write a class that inherits MonoBehavior, and then write something like this: public Transform A; Then you go to the editor, add an empty game object, and add the class you wrote. Then you can see this A variable, and you can drag other game objects into this variable. This operation is equivalent to assigning values in the code

if the member is private, then u cant see it

and u can write some methods that unity will call them in ur class

Update, or FixedUpdate

so basicly u just code some members, drag something into it in editor, then code something in Update method, unity will call it

[queen vale]

Unless being referenced by another script, I don't think public variables is advised. If anything [SerializeField] if you REALLY want to drag them in the editor.

[ornate cosmos]

yeah, thats another way to make it, u set a member to private, then give it a [SerializeField]

if u know wuts it

its a "attribute"

since u just started it, not need to know how it works, just use it, if u learn fps, i can give u some words then u can search the tutorials as a study path

u need to learn: ray, collider, rigidbody, new input system

[brave token]

im learning from the essentials pathway rn and i just completed mission 1

[queen vale]

Can be hard to break habits, start with good ones.

[ornate cosmos]

since u used to use C, u need to know: if some methods(function u can think it is) wont used in another class, set it to private, or u dont want it to be used in another class

and also private members wont be seen in the Inspector

[brave token]

i already know this

[ornate cosmos]

nice

u can also use Field

[brave token]

just need to learn how to use c# with unity

whats that

[ornate cosmos]

public int A {get; set;}

[queen vale]

That's the same as 'public int A'

[ornate cosmos]

u can set the read and assign setting(public or private) for this field separately

and "get;" means nothing diff

[gloomy charm]

Hi im coming from c++

[ornate cosmos]

but u can also say

{get {return 1;}}

[brave token]

the get set part was a bit confusing

[ornate cosmos]

or return another private value cuz u just dont want another class get that value directly

[brave token]

so i dont know how to use this for the moment

[ornate cosmos]

also like : set{_value = something;}

[ornate cosmos]

i mean value not _value

well its like something in java

u made a private value, lets say HP

others should change the value, thats cheating. but u also wanna get the value

so u write "public int GetHP()" method to get it

but Field just for more ez to make it

[gloomy charm]

How hard is it to learn c#?

[brave token]

well can you explain with this example? and what's value?

[ornate cosmos]

no need to learn a lot if u learnt C++

i learn C++ before, then i just quickly use C# without learning

[ornate cosmos]

sure, wait a sec for me pls

[brave token]

not too hard, and since you know c++, learning c# will finally give you the will to live and not kill yourself

[gloomy charm]

Ok cool then I just need to learn how to use unity which shouldn't be hard at all

[queen vale]

SerializeField makes a variable accessible within the editor.
As a better standard though when working with scripts, you should look into UnityEvents and Public functions that 'return x' the value in question.
Making a variable public creates opportunities for cheats, etc. Not bad when learning, but not good long term.

[brave token]

create a project with "essential pathway" to learn unity

[gloomy charm]

Essential what?

[sour fulcrum]

Making a variable public creates opportunities for cheats, etc.
this is completely wrong, cheating is completely unrelated

[ornate cosmos]

in this example, the get do nothing, it just give the user the speed value, BUT the set do something that it detect wuts the number of the value, then clamp it

and value means...let me make a example

[queen vale]

Could've sworn I read this somewhere, how so?

[frail hawk]

i agree, what does cheating have to do with a public modifier

[sour fulcrum]

you can access whatever you want at runtime

[gloomy charm]

That's a 3d project?

[queen vale]

Guess i need to learn more, i'll shutup lol

[brave token]

in this example, bro code prevents users from changing speed to like 1 000 000 000 000

[sour fulcrum]

access modifiers do not exist in compiled games really, it's just something to help devs

[ornate cosmos]

here, "value" is the "1" in "Speed = 1;"

[brave token]

both can be learnt

[sour fulcrum]

no hating just pointing out 👍

[gloomy charm]

How long does it take?

[brave token]

around 1- 2 hours i think

[gloomy charm]

I got time to kill anyway might as well

[ornate cosmos]

C # has no header files, no function declarations, and no need to worry about pointers and memory leaks (references and GC management), so its basicly more ez version C++ and more better cuz there are a lot of methods u can ezly use to do anything

[queen vale]

more better

[brave token]

fun fact: the # in C# means C++++

[gloomy charm]

What about circular dependency?

[ornate cosmos]

when i use C++, i was using UE4, but i changed my mind into unity, so i just ask my friend wuts the diff, so my friend just tell me the default things(public or private when u didnt write it) is diff sometimes, and C# is more ez, and u need to know C# method can be: public void Hi() => ...; for one statement, so i just use C# without any learning

[ornate cosmos]

well, yeah

but diff

its just diff, once u met it u'll see, but tbh i didnt trigger it for a long time in C#

the last time i met this problem is about maybe 3 years ago

if u use unity, i think its not a problem, cuz u just wont write codes like that if ur good at it

[grand snow]

Its only an issue with structs that try to contain eachother as members

C++ is the outlier with how its compiled as modern languages all take multiple passes

[gloomy charm]

So if let's say file1 includes file 2 and file3 includes both of those. How is that handled in c#?

[gloomy charm]

Wym?

[grand snow]

Its not a problem at all

there is no concept of "including"

[gloomy charm]

Oh

[ornate cosmos]

nah it wont happen

[gloomy charm]

This will make life so much easier then

[ornate cosmos]

u will see it after u write

[ornate cosmos]

i mean its not a problem

[gloomy charm]

Debugging that problem in c++ was so difficult 😭

[ornate cosmos]

cuz C# just is more ez and simple

[brave token]

that's kinda why people use c#

[ornate cosmos]

so... yeah, u wont see the problem

after i use C#

my brain just smaller 70%

[grand snow]

Anyway im sure you know in cpp we can use defines or #pragma once to overtime this issue

[ornate cosmos]

than when i use C++

[gloomy charm]

I did use include guards but it was just the way my files were included

[ornate cosmos]

thats true, and when i use ue4, i mean its a little easier but still hard, and i dont like the way how to code in ue, so i use unity with C# now

[grand snow]

perhaps you did something funny or are confusing this with 2 types including each other as non pointer members

[gloomy charm]

Kinda wasn't thinking atm I guess

That's probably the first time I actually had that problem anyway

[grand snow]

Sometimes we have to do weird things but c# is good in that respect

Unity has a very stable api too

[ornate cosmos]

so u dont need to worry about it in unity

wont met it in 99% time

[gloomy charm]

I like those chances

[ornate cosmos]

at least i never met it in Unity

i just met once or twice in winform

its a... QT like thing u can say

[gloomy charm]

Now there's only one problem left. Finding out how to embed lua🫠

[grand snow]

people have already made that work in c# and for unity

[ornate cosmos]

u mean XLua or SLua?

[grand snow]

https://github.com/nuskey8/Lua-CSharp

[gloomy charm]

What are those?

[ornate cosmos]

https://github.com/Tencent/xLua

nvm, just found its all chinese

skip the link i send

[gloomy charm]

I can't read chinese💀(yet)

[grand snow]

They have english docs it seems

and it appears as the lib is english too so its valid so id say either option is good

Its very common for libraries to be in english regardless of the creators home language

[gloomy charm]

I'd run the dotnet command outside of unity right?

[grand snow]

you cant use that to manage a "project" because unity doesnt use that

[gloomy charm]

Oh

Whoops didn't see the unity section

[grand snow]

some people use this package to grab stuff from nuget https://github.com/GlitchEnzo/NuGetForUnity

The "slap random files in your project" solution is outdated and a bit shit

[gloomy charm]

It's possible to use c++ in unity?

[ornate cosmos]

thats a bit like cheating on Unity lol

u can compile C++ code as a dll then use it at runtime

[gloomy charm]

Im not gonna use it im just asking because I see il2cpp in a few games I play which are unity games

[ornate cosmos]

i tried to do it before cuz i already have a small compiler C++ dll so i put it in

[ornate cosmos]

IL2CPP is a option in project, u can turn it on, then game wont be Mono but be IL2CPP way

[grand snow]

yea il2cpp is not something we can use at will. you can use native code but it cannot interact with unity apis

[ornate cosmos]

if u mean this, u can just turn it on

[gloomy charm]

And it'll behave like c++ even if written with c#?

[ornate cosmos]

if u mean write C++ code in unity, u need a dll

[ornate cosmos]

well, C# will compile to IL

then IL will compile to C++

[sour fulcrum]

this can't interact with unity api afaik so it'ds very limited

[ornate cosmos]

so yeah, u can say that

[gloomy charm]

Why does that exist?

[grand snow]

haha it very much does NOT behave like cpp

[frail hawk]

why dont you just learn c# and do it the normal way

[ornate cosmos]

cuz sometimes IL2CPP just faster than Mono, but IL2CPP is not the way u mean "C++"

[gloomy charm]

I was just curious. Im not interested in it.

[ornate cosmos]

its just a build way, u can build by IL2CPP way

[grand snow]

cool then lets end the discussion

[gloomy charm]

Ok

[frail hawk]

people usually ask how to use c# in unreal engine but you asked the opposite question, kind of funny though

[gloomy charm]

It's because I see il2cpp.dll pop up sometimes

[ornate cosmos]

did i say Unity API somewhere?

[sour fulcrum]

in the context of the question of "can i use c++ in unity"

[ornate cosmos]

cool

[gloomy charm]

Ok I probably asked that wrong

[sour fulcrum]

no your question is fine

[brave token]

what's mono

[grand snow]

The old ass backend that unity uses to run c#

They went with mono as it was the only way back then to run c# on platforms other than Windows

[ornate cosmos]

u can just think its one of these build backend, and it can run c# in diff platform cuz its cross-platform

[brave token]

wait il2cpp isn't cross platform?

[ornate cosmos]

well its also

but its diff by the way it made it

[gloomy charm]

Who doesn't love mono

[ornate cosmos]

il2cpp can cross cuz it compile by diff compilers

its a...AOT thing

compile these C# codes to machine code so it can run in diff platforms

but mono is a runtime way to make it, it just run IL at runtime

like java use JIT

[gloomy charm]

I was gonna use c# for scripting one time

[brave token]

from what i know, il2cpp is also faster

[grand snow]

It is. Its a more recent addition however.

Unity used to support JS and boo but as well for scripting but ditched them

[ornate cosmos]

thats too old things, il2cpp already here maybe after 2014

[grand snow]

In relation to the engine existing it is recent

[ornate cosmos]

there are some vids to show it, i saw a vid talking about coroutine and UniTask with mono or il2cpp

[grand snow]

anyway there is plenty of information online about mono and il2cpp

so go check that out instead of half baked explanations here

[sour fulcrum]

Goated for modding tho

[subtle mulch]

now we can even build C# into machine lang directly

[gloomy charm]

Melon loader

[subtle mulch]

with Roslyn or NativeAOT

[brave token]

unity physics are the best

[lilac pulsar]

Could someone please help? everything works fine, but after i restart the game, nothing in the main menu works and idk why, like literally nothing

[subtle mulch]

well, the first step would be debugging

[errant breach]

Hello ! I've created a projectile that every enemies shoot. But how can i pass parameter to the projectile (Speed, damage, lifespan) so that every enemies can shoot a different one ? Thanks.
(im using the instantiate's function but if you have better suggestion, i'll take !)

[subtle mulch]

by getting the projectile class inside it...

when you instantiate it, you get back a reference to the gameobject

use that reference to get the projectile class component

[errant breach]

Oh really ? It's that simple ? :0 ?
So i do something like...
"instantiate(projectile) projectile.speed = 12 projectile.damage = 16"

[subtle mulch]

no

var projectile = Instantiate(projectilePrefab);
var projComp = projectile.GetComponent<ProjectileClass>();
projComp .speed = 12;
projComp .damage = 6;

like this

[errant breach]

ahah omg it's that simple thanks !!

and if the player get hit, to access the projectileDamage value, i do like
collider.GetComponent<ProjectileClass>(); too ?

[subtle mulch]

if collider is the object that hit the player yes

but, use TryGetComponent

not GetComponent

[errant breach]

Ah i see to avoid crashes 😅

Alright thank you Diamond Master !

[subtle mulch]

to prevent null references in case it was not a bullet that hit the player

[lilac pulsar]

after the game restarts, the buttons are no longer linked to the game manager (function), is that normal?

[subtle mulch]

well, no

find out why

[lilac pulsar]

ok ty

[errant breach]

By the way...

var projectile = Instantiate(projectilePrefab);

Whats the point of creating the "var projectile" value is it's not used later ? Im trying to understand unity's logic 😅

[subtle mulch]

wdym

it's used locally

and you might prob need it to set the position and stuff

(and it makes the code look cleaner) lol

[errant breach]

Okkkayy, i guess i'll have time to better understand everything 😅

Thanks <3

[subtle mulch]

var is to just auto assign the value type btw

it makes the code look somewhat cleaner

[errant breach]

OOOH okay now i understand better 😅 thx :>

[gloomy charm]

Opened unity and now i am ready to learn

And appearntly the editor i have installed have a security issue

[subtle mulch]

why didn't you download the latest?

6000.3.10f1

[gloomy charm]

Because i never used unity

I downloaded it a while ago and it was just sitting on my computer

[subtle mulch]

ah, lol

well, get the newest one

[gloomy charm]

Yea i am just updated the hub

[swift sedge]

what version is it?

[gloomy charm]

6000.2.5f1

[subtle mulch]

yeah it's old

[rich adder]

6.0 or 6.3 LTS
though 6.0 is much better and mature

[subtle mulch]

6.3 works just fine tbh

[gloomy charm]

I can't update from the editor menu? I have to do a full install on the new version?

[rich adder]

eh considering everyone who comes with problems is always with 6.3 bugs

[subtle mulch]

i never had tbh

[rich adder]

yes

[gloomy charm]

So im seeing windows support il2cpp does that mean if i wanted to export to windows i would have to have il2cpp enabled?

[subtle mulch]

nah

but it does help with performance

[rich adder]

IL2CPP is just different backend type instead of Mono.
there are pros n cons

[gloomy charm]

22gb for my basic needs is wild

[subtle mulch]

(it's pretty good tbh) XD

[rich adder]

laughs in Unreal

[subtle mulch]

unreal is 50gb+ alone

[gloomy charm]

Ok bruh lol

I might as well add mac too right?

[rich adder]

no

it won't work

[gloomy charm]

Really?

[subtle mulch]

you might wanna add linux

[gloomy charm]

Already added

[subtle mulch]

btw, this is unreal + its sources

[rich adder]

never seen someone successfully build to mac from windows who knows if they ever fixed it

You need a mac to build to mac proper

[gloomy charm]

So i would need to run all this on a vm

[subtle mulch]

using GH actions you might be able to

[subtle mulch]

nah, just the prod build

[gloomy charm]

actions support unity?

[subtle mulch]

yes afaik

i saw an action that did that

[gloomy charm]

That's what i meant for building

[rich adder]

I would worry about this stuff later..

[subtle mulch]

yep

[rich adder]

learn the editor first lol

[subtle mulch]

and i will prob get rid of Unreal now that i saw the full size XD

[gloomy charm]

Relearn you mean

[subtle mulch]

136Gb on disk

[gloomy charm]

Didn't really have the chance to learn unity too much because my old laptop is bad

[gloomy charm]

Wait i have unreal..

[subtle mulch]

that was unreal + the sources

[gloomy charm]

How big is it??

[subtle mulch]

tho unreal build alone is 50gb+

(it's bloated AF)

[gloomy charm]

Well that explains where a big chunk of my storage went

[rich adder]

btw next time this goes in #💻┃unity-talk
this is a coding channel

[gloomy charm]

Ok

I'll just add it anyway

The only things i really need atm is android and ios build support

[chrome storm]

Hello! I need big help with my code. I made it that when a player is near a ledge the off balance animation plays but since I could still move around and stuff the player could move a bit while still playing the animations I tried snapping the player when its not moving to the corner but couldnt get it to work. can someone help! :(

I can send the code if u want the one with the snap and without

[rich adder]

well thats the least you should be doing. we can't just guess around

every system is specific

[naive pawn]

you're probably using a ground check that doesn't make sense for your character

what's the intended behavior anyways

[chrome storm]

fair 😅

private RaycastHit2D GetIsGrounded()
    {
        return Physics2D.Raycast(transform.position, Vector2.down, PlayerHalfHeight + 0.2f, LayerMask.GetMask("Ground"));
    }

    private void CheckGroundAndEdges()
    {
        Vector2 basePosition = (Vector2)transform.position + Vector2.down * PlayerHalfHeight;

        Vector2 center = basePosition;
        float facing = facingRight ? 1f : -1f;
        
        Vector2 front = basePosition + Vector2.right * facing * edgeOffset;
        Vector2 back  = basePosition - Vector2.right * facing * edgeOffset;
        
        bool centerHit = Physics2D.Raycast(center, Vector2.down, groundRayLength, LayerMask.GetMask("Ground"));
        bool frontHit  = Physics2D.Raycast(front, Vector2.down, groundRayLength, LayerMask.GetMask("Ground"));
        bool backHit   = Physics2D.Raycast(back, Vector2.down, groundRayLength, LayerMask.GetMask("Ground"));

        Debug.DrawRay(center, Vector2.down * groundRayLength, centerHit ? Color.green : Color.red);
        Debug.DrawRay(front, Vector2.down * groundRayLength, frontHit ? Color.green : Color.red);
        Debug.DrawRay(back, Vector2.down * groundRayLength, backHit ? Color.green : Color.red);

        isGrounded = centerHit;

        isNearEdgeFront = centerHit && !frontHit;
        isNearEdgeBack  = centerHit && !backHit;

        anim.SetBool("isGrounded", isGrounded);
        anim.SetBool("isNearEdgeFront", isNearEdgeFront);
        anim.SetBool("isNearEdgeBack", isNearEdgeBack);
    }

    void HandleFlip()
    {
        if (rb.linearVelocity.x > 0.1f && !facingRight)
        {
            Flip();
        }
        else if (rb.linearVelocity.x < -0.1f && facingRight)
        {
            Flip();
        }
    }

[rich adder]

so you want to just interrupt the nearEdge animation thing when moving away from ledge ?

[midnight tree]

Implementations of Func and generics

[chrome storm]

yeah! Its just so that when the player is near the ledge it snaps there so that the foor is on the corner

Then I can just walk off the ledge if I want to

[rich adder]

you have code that snaps it there or you mean thats what you want to do

[chrome storm]

I tried making a code that does that but it didn't work I even asked chatgpt for help but that was no use XD I'll send it over

    private void HandleEdgeSnap()
    {
        if (!isGrounded || rb.linearVelocity.y > 0f) return;

        float snapAmount = 0.05f;
        float moveDir = moveInput;

        if (isNearEdgeFront)
        {
            if ((facingRight && moveDir <= 0) || (!facingRight && moveDir >= 0))
            {
                transform.position += new Vector3(facingRight ? -snapAmount : snapAmount, 0f, 0f);
            }
        }

        if (isNearEdgeBack)
        {
            if ((facingRight && moveDir >= 0) || (!facingRight && moveDir <= 0))
            {
                transform.position += new Vector3(facingRight ? snapAmount : -snapAmount, 0f, 0f);
            }
        }
    }

[rich adder]

if you gonna modify positioning make sure you do so on the rigidbody itself not the transform btw.
not saying it will solve how broken it is now but it keeps things consistent accurate in terms of physics.

[chrome storm]

Mk Ill do that rq

Yeah your right didn't really solve anything

[rich adder]

yeah , what exact behavior you want? why did you want to snap it?

[chrome storm]

so that the foot is always on the edge and not offset

I need it to snap under the foot but not that much that the left raycast touches the floor

Since there a gap between them if I move a little I want it to snap back to the ledge but still have the ability to walk off the edge

[rich adder]

maybe get the raycast hit point ? might be better than guessing offsets

[chrome storm]

Yeah i can try that

No I tried keeps sliding back to the platform

[rich adder]

hmm the games I seen only add the behavior to the animation but it breaks the animation when you move, the snapping thing idk that might mess with gameplay too much no?

[chrome storm]

Yeah i understand

[subtle mulch]

yeah snapping will def mess with gameplay

and looks pretty bad

[chrome storm]

Leaving the feature out might make the game smoother

[chrome storm]

Alright yeah I'll trap that then

I wanted to do something like in rayman origins

[subtle mulch]

have an example vid?

[chrome storm]

Yes I'm recording it rq

[subtle mulch]

yeah this is just an animation tbh, no need for snapping

[granite elk]

hello, im having a problem with my magnet object, everytime i attract an object it doesent stay in the magnet and floats around, how do i fix that?

[subtle mulch]

well, the magnet is not strong enough then

add more force the closer an object gets

it's like real life

[granite elk]

i use joints

[subtle mulch]

huh

where

and which joint

[granite elk]

when i attract an object, i create a joint

[granite elk]

fixed joint

[subtle mulch]

i would not use a joint

but move the object as a child of the magnet

and disable the object rigidbody

and then enable the rigidbody again later when detaching

[granite elk]

i tried that and its too rigid and ugly, and then it will trapass walls and have problems

[subtle mulch]

well, fixed joint does basically the same thing i think

[granite elk]

no it doesent

[granite elk]

it doesent trapass walls

[subtle mulch]

yep, it basically is

[subtle mulch]

then keep its rigidbody

and it won't trespass walls

if you code the magnet correctly

[granite elk]

when i first implemented my magnet it was parent of the player, it had collider and rigidbody, it still trapassed walls

[chrome storm]

Alright I'll see what I can do then. Thanks for the help guys!

[subtle mulch]

well, how are you rotating the magnet?

by just setting its rotation?

[granite elk]

do you want me to share the code? But idk how to

[subtle mulch]

well, that would help

send it via pastebin

so i can see how you assign to the joint

[granite elk]

whats that

[subtle mulch]

a website to share code

also, show the joint settings

[subtle mulch]

why did you send a .txt...

[granite elk]

i did paste in pastebin and download

[subtle mulch]

yeah that's so wrong...

you had to publish the pastebin and send the link

why all of these here tho..

just set them to public

[granite elk]

no its better to be private

[subtle mulch]

not really

if you are Serializing them, just set them to public

[slender nymph]

yes it is. there's no reason to make something public unless other objects need access to them. serializing them just exposes them to the inspector to be editable, making them public exposes them to anything with a reference to the object and can therefore be changed any time at runtime

[subtle mulch]

one thing, did you check if the target RB is actually getting set in the joint?

[granite elk]

i dont get it sorry

wdym

[subtle mulch]

via the inspector during runtime

did you actually check if there is a joint and if the joint has the correct values set?

[granite elk]

there is no joint in the object i want to attract, since i build it in code

[subtle mulch]

i meant during runtime...

after you click play

[granite elk]

yes there isnt

[subtle mulch]

in the magnet

not in the object

[granite elk]

the magnet has a target joint

[subtle mulch]

that script is assigned to the magnet i think

also, you are just creating a new joint in the magnet

for each object

so don't look at the one you already have

but check if a second one gets added to the magnet

with the right values

[granite elk]

no it doesent

[subtle mulch]

well, there's your problem

[chrome storm]

Nvm I'm back. I'm going to have to change colliders and ground checks because using raycast really isn't working :P

[subtle mulch]

also, you are never setting grabJoint to null (tho i think Destroy might do that)

add a check if the first if is actually running

like a Debug.Log

[granite elk]

it runs

[subtle mulch]

but it never creates a second joint, hmm

do you use the joint you already have in the magnet btw?

[granite elk]

sorry i meant to say it doesent run

[subtle mulch]

oh

then check why

and

it is buggy

the second else will always run after the first run

causing some problems

!code

[radiant void]

Posting code

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[granite elk]

how do i find out the problem tho

[subtle mulch]

if (distance < distanceToBlock)
            {
              if (grabJoint == null) {
                              grabJoint = gameObject.AddComponent<FixedJoint2D>();
                  
                              grabJoint.connectedBody = attractedObject;
                  
                              grabJoint.breakForce = Mathf.Infinity;
              }
            }
            else
            {
                attractedObject.AddForce(direction * attractForce);
            }

edit the if to this first of all