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[swift crag]

I would not write "interaction" as "int"

[buoyant finch]

I think you should use two seperate canvases instead of scenes

[polar acorn]

1. I highly doubt the video says E is an int.
2. I don't care what the video says, I'm asking you

[simple vine]

well i dont know

can i give someone the project to help then

[polar acorn]

If you literally do not know what words mean, then attempting to help you is pointless. !learn

[buoyant finch]

at least send the error and script for us to look

[rich adder]

well no wondering you are not learning anything, this wont even explain shit.

[eternal falcon]

:teacher: Unity Learn ↗

Over 750 hours of free live and on-demand learning content for all levels of experience!

[simple vine]

how

[agile igloo]

alright, ill rather opt for 2 panel though

[buoyant finch]

send the code atleast

[simple vine]

of what because there is none for the int

[buoyant finch]

it will work fine too I think better than mine

[buoyant finch]

then how will it work if there is none for the int??

[polar acorn]

If there's no code then it doesn't exist and therefore cannot be having problems. Glad we could sort that out

[simple vine]

how come he didnt use a code

[buoyant finch]

those are the disadvantages of random videos my friend

[simple vine]

can i send you my project for you to fix them things

[polar acorn]

No one is going to just write your game for you

take the time to actually learn how to use the engine

[buoyant finch]

if you send the code I may look over it but not considering the project

[simple vine]

so i cant make my game WONDERFUL

[polar acorn]

Turns out: Making a game requires effort

[simple vine]

there is no code

[polar acorn]

if you attempt to put in zero effort, you will get zero game

[rich adder]

bro wants to shortcut his way through an entire game lol

[buoyant finch]

I think if you use events it will work better I myself use events almost all the time

[agile igloo]

@buoyant finch because there are multiple panels being set active and inactive, would it make sense to use an event or just disable everything that has to be disabled in one method?

[buoyant finch]

how come it works then?

[simple vine]

for who

[buoyant finch]

the working of the game

[simple vine]

idk how he did it

[buoyant finch]

what was the video you sent wasn't it of your game I am asking about your cs script in visual studio

[simple vine]

huh

wasn't it of your game?

[buoyant finch]

what?

[simple vine]

that what you just said

what does that mean

[buoyant finch]

I am asking that you paste here your cs script through which your game works

[simple vine]

which script

[buoyant finch]

this is your game's video or of the person who is giving the tutorial?

[simple vine]

the person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y7P2hidGfI&list=PLWI8H56cvVoKsqSwpyDRmEPCGfJnCpUd2&index=3 this one

[rich adder]

go back and start from the beginning then if its supposed to work like the video

double check all steps

[agile igloo]

im wondering, what are considered "advanced" unity problems? like dots?

[simple vine]

i did

[fickle plume]

That is not a tutorial, it's just a recoding of someone working on the project. You won't learn much just blindly miming someone else doing something, you need to understand what's happening.

[buoyant finch]

Unity's Data-Oriented Technology Stack (DOTS) is a set of technologies designed to help developers create high-performance games

[simple vine]

that says HOW TO MAKE A SLENDER LIKE HORROR GAME

[rich adder]

it should be more like "Watch me make a slider like project"

[agile igloo]

i was wondering what topics are considered "advanced" i know what dots is

[buoyant finch]

yeah but he certainly doesn't show any scripts which make his game work

[fickle plume]

@simple vine If you have an actual coding question then ask here, explaining what you did and how you've attempted to debug it already.

[polar acorn]

You really think people would do that? Just bait clicks on youtube?

[fickle plume]

Otherwise this is pointless

[rich adder]

low level programming usually, or dealing with more advanced things like interops etc.

[buoyant finch]

yeah

[simple vine]

he good tho and helped me on other one i used that he made

[swift crag]

It's pretty arbitrary. I consider something to be "advanced" if it's a niche subject with a lot of technical complexity

[buoyant finch]

you just use scripts from other people now that's another level of hypocrisy

[polar acorn]

Well, now that it isn't you have two options:

1. Learn what it's actually doing and understand how to debug it and either fix it yourself or actually provide useful information
2. Give up

[simple vine]

he made other tut that worked

[simple vine]

oh well done you made my life a living hell telling me to give up

[rich adder]

no one is saying that

[swift crag]

option 2 is the less desirable option

[polar acorn]

No, I gave you two options

If you choose to give up, that's on you

[buoyant finch]

ok you know what copy codes till you can and let's see if you complete the game fully

[simple vine]

huh

[rich adder]

Crawl before you walk

[buoyant finch]

I bet you cannot finish your horror game without learning cs

[simple vine]

i cant

[swift crag]

I would suggest starting with Unity Learn.

[simple vine]

BECAUSE IT DONT WORK

[swift crag]

It will give you a foundation for creating your own game.

[rich adder]

forget tht tutorial

[buoyant finch]

If you wanna prove me wrong learn and come back being a greater programmer then me

[rich adder]

start from here

https://learn.unity.com/pathways

"tutorial" you're following is shite

you ain'tgonna learn anything but copy and paste

[simple vine]

bruh this again

[rich adder]

and you can barley do that

[swift crag]

We are bringing it up for a reason.

[fickle plume]

If you are not here to learn don't spam the chat.

[rich adder]

if you refuse to try at least putting effort in your own learning, that goes against community rules here
#📖┃code-of-conduct

[buoyant finch]

it doesn't work because you are directly starting from 3d which is not an issue but I would recommend firstly making 2d games with basic shapes to get some command on the language

[simple vine]

im quiting

[swift crag]

Okay.

When you're done quitting, consult Unity Learn.

[buoyant finch]

ok but that makes you a quitter

[rich adder]

no need to keep dragging this

[simple vine]

yea because you are being USELESS

[rich adder]

they were pointed to the resources, up to them what they do now

[fickle plume]

You are the one wasting everyone's time here

[simple vine]

huh

[rich adder]

we know how to make a game because we actually put the time and effort to learn

[buoyant finch]

oh right surely if you think someone is free here to listen to these screeches and just make you the game buddy that's not gonna happen

[simple vine]

i tryed to fix 2 things and now they made it a big deal

[polar acorn]

Yes, since you want to make a game without ever putting in any effort, that seems for the best

[rich adder]

you seem to wanting to shortcut your way through making an entire game without knowing a lick of c# or unity

[fickle plume]

@simple vine Now, do you have actual programming questions?

[simple vine]

yea but not helping me

[undone spindle]

I am learning from a Leonty source, and the instructor has a different version than mine. When I write the code he writes, I don't see the same results as he does. Is the issue related to the version?

[rich adder]

telling you to start from the ground up is NOT not helping

[swift crag]

Probably not

[simple vine]

yes 4 word, Help me fix this

[swift crag]

But it depends on context, of course.

Unity changes remarkably little from major release to major release -- some stuff eventually gets deprecated and removed

[fickle plume]

This is how you !ask questions here.

[eternal falcon]

:thinking: Asking Questions

:mag: Search the internet for your question!
:book: Use the API Scripting Reference and User Manual and this troubleshooting site for commonly posted issues.
:wrench: Attempt to debug your issue.
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:grey_question: And don't ask to ask, ask a full question illustrating with screenshots if needed.
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[swift crag]

but the majority of stuff that worked back in Unity 5 continues to work now

[simple vine]

i put effort into it

[rich adder]

we are telling you from experience, how you are doing it doesn't work.. clearly

start from the beginning stages, work your way up

[fickle plume]

@simple vine If you don't stop bickering I will mute you. Research your question and post it here if you have one.

[simple vine]

then whats the point if yall being useless

[polar acorn]

"Please fix someone else's tutorial but also I won't do any debugging or answer any follow up questions" is not how you ask a question if you expect an answer

[rich adder]

why even make a game if its going to be a trash mess no one is going to want to play ?

[fickle plume]

!mute 1323412736519966841 1d Start with Unity !Learn lessons, then come back here.

[eternal falcon]

therealpugsbros_77594 was muted.

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[buoyant finch]

yeah and you are being useful right not even trying to make a single script

[swift crag]

no need to dogpile.

we will try again later.

[swift crag]

What versions are involved here, and what are you actually doing?

[fast fern]

I have a question
If I put a function in my script, would the game react if lets say I press a key that's supposed to make that function run?
Or does it have to be under like "public update" so the game always check if I pressed the key?

[undone spindle]

This my version , my teacher has 2021

[rich adder]

yes you need inputs to be polled in Update, unless you are using events

[swift crag]

It is certainly possible to make Unity call a function when a key is pressed.

But merely creating a method doesn't do anything on its own

[buoyant finch]

private and public are to be used in case of different scripts if you want to acces their value for another script you need to declare it as public but if you want to keep it limited to that script private should be used

[swift crag]

that was not really what the user was asking about

it is reasonable to point out that it's a bit weird to say "public update", though

public void Update() {

}

This is a method -- a function that's part of a class -- called "Update". It returns void, meaning it doens't return anything at all. Its access modifier is public, so anyone can see it

This method name is special. Unity looks for a method with this name on your MonoBehaviours and calls it every frame.

[rich adder]

i always keep my keep Update private protected void

[swift crag]

notably, it doesn't have to be marked as public -- the method can be private

[fast fern]

What about for example loading a different scene when collecting certain amount of points?

[swift crag]

you could check your point count in an Update method, perhaps

or you could check the condition every time you add points

[undone spindle]

This my code , and when i run the player doesn’t move or jump

[rich adder]

learn events tbh

[swift crag]

please use !code for large amounts of code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

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[swift crag]

You should start by checking if your code is running at all. Use Debug.Log to print things to the console

[undone spindle]

Not move also

[rich adder]

did you actually put the script on gameobject?

also https://screenshot.help

[undone spindle]

Yes i did

[fast fern]

I haven't looked into events yet, currently trying to understand why my code didn't work as it's own function, but worked when it was under Public update

[rich adder]

show code

[fast fern]

I'll send a screenshot when I'm back on my laptop 👌

[rich adder]

no screenshots, use links #💻┃code-beginner message

[fast fern]

Will do soon

[undone spindle]

What about mu issue

[rich adder]

what aout it ? did you put logs as instructed?

test out if things are running at all etc.

we debug usually by process of elimination

[swift crag]

process of elimination, you mean :p

[rich adder]

ops yes

my english still my secondary and fuck those up 😛

[swift crag]

you need to prove that your code is doing anything at all first

e.g. by logging a message at the start of Update, as well as logging the desired movement vector

[lean pelican]

What's the best way to deal with audio, brief sound effects in particular?
I'm using a singleton AudioManager class with a static PlayAudio method to be called from the object that wants to play a sound. But after that I saw multiple different ways of going about it online, and I'd like to know if there's a clear better/more sensible/efficient way.
For one, should the sound files be stored in the Audio Manager and it just gets a name/enum of the file it's supposed to play, or should every object hold its own sounds and pass them to the Audio Manager when it calls PlayAudio?
And two, should the AudioSource I use be a prefab in the AudioManager that gets instantiated at a location and then destroyed? Or should it be a child component of the AudioManager that gets moved around?
Actually, how important is the location of the AudioSource for 2D games in particular anyways? Or does it only matter if I actively try to get fancy with audio?

[rich adder]

by fancy audio I think you mean Spatial sound, like 3d sound and yes it also useful in 2D. (unity is 3d engine)
If you plan on doing that you need the audiosource to be at location of the sound at the time, I just pool and spawn these SoundObject prefabs that let me play sound at whatever location.
I store my soundclips on the actual thing that makes the sound usually so its self contained

my objects that make sound don't know anything about sound manager, they just get registered to it OnEnable, then an event is invoked and soundmanager deals with the playing (sound clip gets passed in the event) , if its 3D sound spawn the object at location with clip, if its a regular sound then play it through sound manager player

pooling the sound to spawn can be basically thought as having 50 not-active sound sources on stand-by and whenever a 3d sound is needed at location, activates the gamobject with its new values, after it plays goes back in the pool

[lean pelican]

I see. Thanks.
I already heard about pooling and Events/Listeners, so I'll look into those too.

[timber tide]

I'm lazy and I just use one-shots

[rich adder]

I mean I also use one-shots not sure if that changes anything lol

you mean PlayClipAtPoint ?

[timber tide]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/AudioSource.PlayOneShot.html
Think it's mono only

[rich adder]

i usually see people use this https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/AudioSource.PlayClipAtPoint.html

[timber tide]

Ah yeah I see that one. For 3D sound but otherwise PlayOneShot suffices

[rich adder]

that creates a new gameobject each time and then cleans it up but it builds up quick

[rich adder]

But playOneShot also works for 3D sound, thats why I'm confused lol

i almost never use Play unless its like a background song or something

[timber tide]

oh right I guess if you just give it a position yourself

[rich adder]

as long as you got the new soundSource you can do PlayOneShot

i prefer it because it takes a clip so you dont need to swap the AS each time

if its a 3D sound -> Spawn the object that plays one shot at location
if its regular global sound -> play through sound manager as one shot

[lean pelican]

Right, that was a difference too. Is there a major difference between

myAudioSource.play();```
and 
`myAudioSource.PlayOneShot(myAudioClip)`
Espacially if I create myAudioSource from a prefab just before this and Destroy it afterwards?

[rich adder]

yes the latter cannot overlap sound

if you call Play on the same AS it stop the previous sound and plays from beginning

so if you must play another sound and its not ready you need to check or stop previous sound
myAudioSource.isPlaying == false
Play()

[spark moth]

can someone explain how i can put my code in a box in discord like in vs codes?

[rich adder]

!code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

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Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[rich adder]

keep inline for small blocks, entire classes and large code like that goes in links

also this Discord server doesn't have line numbers for code blocks

[spark moth]

ok thanks i saved the code in paste.mod, now how can i paste it here? should i just press ctrl+v?

[rocky canyon]

u click the save icon and the URL will be updated

copy and paste that new url

[lean pelican]

I see. Thanks.

[rich adder]

You must be blind if you can't C#``` @spark moth

[rocky canyon]

Badum' Tisss!

[rich adder]

dad jokes!

[knotty arch]

Hello.
Would someone tell me if I should multiply by Time.deltaTime when using AddForce inside onTriggerStay?

[rocky canyon]

nope, i wouldnt think so, its a physics message.. runs on the physics tick..

[knotty arch]

It works the same way as if I was using addforce inside fixedUpdate, right?

[rocky canyon]

mmhmm

[knotty arch]

[rocky canyon]

lol whats wrong?

[knotty arch]

yes?

[rich adder]

even in Update Time.detaTime would still be wrong

[rocky canyon]

i think they were just unsure if the Stay() method runs on the update loop or the fixedupdate loop

[rich adder]

ah okay

AddForce wait for physics tic anywho

[rocky canyon]

yessir

Addforce never needs time.deltaTime

i think is the point ur making

[knotty arch]

That makes sense

Thanks guys

🫡

[rocky canyon]

good luck 🍀

[spark moth]

is it ok if i send the link of my code from the website instead of pasting the code itself here? cuz i couldn't fix the problem

[rich adder]

thats the whole point of those links

[spark moth]

then explain how to paste the saved url from the website because ctrl+v just pastes the code like a normal text

[rich adder]

paste code on the site, hit the Save button, send the new generated LINK in your address bar

[spark moth]

like this?sry for my knowledge btw
https://hastebin.skyra.pw/obeyipiveb.pgsql

[rich adder]

yup

[spark moth]

oh ok because it shows the link for me instead of the code in something like IDE

[uncut shoal]

How do I set the strength of a SpringJoint2D?

[rich adder]

thats for large code yes, it looks like IDE on the site itself

on here you can use for small blocks the three ticks method

[spark moth]

ok so let me send my problem

[rich adder]

public class Test : MonoBehaviour
{   
    void Start()
    {
        Debug.Log("I hate C#");
    }        
}``` smaller code

but this doesn't give line numbers and is generally for 5-7 lines

[rich adder]

wdym strength ?

[spark moth]

i'm making a game which has a movement like subway surfer but when i want to dodge an obstacle by changing
lane and then coming back to that lane, the game thinks i hit the obstacle what can be the problem? if u want i can send
the video or more codes
player movement code:
https://hastebin.skyra.pw/ucagabefiq.csharp

[verbal dome]

Looks like "Frequency" controls stiffness?
https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/Manual/2d-physics/joints/spring-joint-2d-reference.html

[uncut shoal]

👍

Thanks osmal

[rich adder]

are you following a video tutorial? can you send that too

[spark moth]

no, i was following brackeys tutorial but i'm now working on my self

[rich adder]

kinda strange to use both AddForce and movePosition.

MovePosition might be undoing proper collisions

[spark moth]

but if u want i can send the video of my problem

[rich adder]

if you want sure

[spark moth]

ok so wait i'll record one now

[rich adder]

https://streamable.com if its too big for DC

[rich adder]

Id be more interested in knowing how you do collision/obstacle detection

[spark moth]

so should i also send you the code of collision?

[rich adder]

wouldn't hurt

[spark moth]

ok i'll send both just wait a bit

[rich adder]

currentLane * 3; try to give numbers meaning by using variables

don't use magic numbers

[spark moth]

oh ok

[chrome apex]

I want an object to lose all moving force when something happens. Tried doing that with rb.velocity but nothing happens (IDE corrects it to linearvelocity, dunno if it's the same thing)

is this the rightway to go about this?

[rocky canyon]

it is

[rich adder]

rb.linearVelocity = vector3.zero
rb.angularVelocity= vector3.zero
or
make it kinematic ?

[rocky canyon]

velocity is deprecated

[chrome apex]

I did that, doesn't seem to affect it hmm

[rich adder]

did you
verify its running
dont have other script setting it

[chrome apex]

yeah that's what I thought as an alternative...making it static then dynamic again

[rocky canyon]

^ make sure when u do it u have ur other movement code temporarily paused

[spark moth]

this is the video of bug and this is the code:
https://hastebin.skyra.pw/wiwanekobo.csharp

[rocky canyon]

just b/c u set it to 0 on one line doesn't mean something else wont re-write it if u hadn't paused the other stuff

[chrome apex]

I actually don't have any movement scripts at all, it's a physics game with a ball

[rocky canyon]

oh if its just a physics object u may want to turn off gravity.. when u set the velocity to 0

gravity obviously will continue to move it?

[rich adder]

video isn't working

[chrome apex]

so setting it static will do the same, yea?

[spark moth]

try downloading it

[rocky canyon]

yea static should lock it in place..

not sure if thats the preferred method.. but def could work

[spark moth]

and can i give you a friend req so you can help me?

[chrome apex]

but see I don't want it to bounce of a wall...so when it hits this special thing, I want to lock it in place for just a moment, then let it go down again.

Can I just make it static then dynamic right in the next line? Will that do the trick?

[rich adder]

I can help you here dw. other people can too so its easier here

[rocky canyon]

no.. that'd just end up setting it to dynamic.. if its the same frame

myint = 3;
myint = 4;
myint = 5;

in the same frame is the same as

myint =5;

[chrome apex]

I see

so, a coroutine or something I guess

a short one

[rocky canyon]

you'll need a coroutine or something

yea

[chrome apex]

ok ok fair

[rocky canyon]

waittilnextframe may be good enough

[chrome apex]

but will that do what I want on a high level?

[rich adder]

it could be the bad lerp causing the movement not catchup properly and using MovePosition is bad idea with collisions cause it ignores other coliders until it catches up with addforce i suppose

[rocky canyon]

not sure what u mean by that

[chrome apex]

I mean will that achieve getting rid of the bounce and just letting go of the object downward

[rocky canyon]

not sure that sounds like a

[chrome apex]

ok

[spark moth]

can u please fix the code?

[rich adder]

this whole code needs to be re-written, its not good

I would suggest lookup a better tutorial video on this. Unity also has one pretty sure

https://learn.unity.com/pathways then go into better tutorials after

[spark moth]

ok so i have to check the youtube. thank you very much and bye bye

[rich adder]

youtube is a hit or miss :\ better you start with the unity ones then branch out

[spark moth]

ok

[rich adder]

so youcan better recognize where to improve on the youtubers u watchin

[rocky canyon]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Vector3.MoveTowards.html
https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Vector3.SmoothDamp.html
heres a few alternatives may work better for ya

[spark moth]

thanks

[rocky canyon]

those two dont quiet work the same as lerp.. (you wont run into unpredictable lerping and slowing towards the end)

[rich adder]

well that whole movement needs to go from
2 rb calls to just 1

using velocity at least

[rocky canyon]

u can use lerp correctly to fix those problems but with these two functions its built-in..

foolproof-ish

[rocky canyon]

facts imo.. its best to construct ur final vector and use one RB call to avoid confusions

        finalVector =
            (groundVector * finalSpeed) +
            (airVector * playerSettings.airSpeed) +
            (Vector3.up * gravitySim);

        characterController.Move(finalVector * Time.deltaTime);```

this is CC but same concept

[rich adder]

  public void FixedUpdate()
    {
        rb.linearVelocity = new(sideMoveLerpMethod(), 0, forwardMove);
    }```

also time.DeltaTime is the reason you had to crank forward move to 40000

[spark moth]

ok you guys are going so fast lemme take notes

[rocky canyon]

lol you can always scroll back 😉

[rich adder]

erasing in 3....2....1.

[spark moth]

ik but sometimes i have to scroll 1 km back

ok if there is any other advice tell me and if there isn't i go

[rich adder]

hmm..fuck it..now I'm gonna make a video on infinite scroller with dash/jump ability

[rich adder]

start simple then build up

[rocky canyon]

no me!...

lol j/k i got other plans

[rich adder]

oh niceee 2d ?

i was thinking more like temple run

[spark moth]

thanks to both of u, and nav you got a new subscriber😉 bye

[rich adder]

holy shit I'm old af ? if thats my most recent inifinte runner reference

[rocky canyon]

what about me? 😢

[rich adder]

yeah don't sleep on Spawn they got THE content

[spark moth]

do u have youtube?

[rocky canyon]

i was writing a lerp coroutine for an example even

[rich adder]

spawn camp out!

[rocky canyon]

me and nav are two threads from the same spoil

IEnumerator MoveToPosition(Vector3 targetPosition, float duration)
{
    Vector3 startPosition = transform.position;
    float startTime = Time.time;

    while (Time.time - startTime < duration)
    {
        float t = Mathf.Clamp01((Time.time - startTime) / duration);
        transform.position = Vector3.Lerp(startPosition, targetPosition, t);
        yield return null;
    }

    transform.position = targetPosition; // Ensure it reaches exactly the target
}```

i use code like this for lerping

caching the original position.. (that way u dont feed the variable back into itself)

[spark moth]

this is a bit complex for me but ok

[rich adder]

woa never seen Time.time with a lerp, interesting

[rocky canyon]

transform.position = Vector3.Lerp(transform.position, targetPosition, Time.deltaTime);

this is how ppl normally do it.. and is wrong ^

[spark moth]

spawn can u give me ur yt link?

[rich adder]

ya wrry about lerping later lol

[rocky canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/@SpawnCampGames

[rich adder]

first you should even figure how to limit your player to 3 specific lanes

[rocky canyon]

^ true..

[spark moth]

i'm not gonna use unity for really long i'm gonna change to godot that's probably my last project

[rocky canyon]

oh are u making a temple run game?

[rocky canyon]

fun fact: GD can use c#

u might have a head-start

[rich adder]

so why use unity for this at all?

seems like a waste of time learning this stuff just to move onto another engine

its not like its something you learn/ do overnight

[rocky canyon]

im 50% in agree-ance

[spark moth]

at first i was trying to use unity because of the number of tutorials out there but now i have changed my mind and i think godot has better future(no offense)

[rocky canyon]

it wont hurt to learn a bit of fundamentals from unity

but if u plan on gadot u should start optimizing what ur learning for that engine

[rich adder]

no offense taken, I dont work for Unity lol

but thats quite false

Unity has WAYY more features that godot has to catch up to

but whatever works for you, game engines are like your favorite hammer

[rocky canyon]

ya, gadot is like half a decade behind imo (no offense)

[spark moth]

but godot is only out for 5 years and unity for 20 years but it's not that much behind

[rocky canyon]

unity's asset warehouse is bounds better as well 😛

[timber tide]

I can churn out stuff pretty quick with godot, but the optimization isn't there and it's taking time for them to catch up after redoing their pipeline

[spark moth]

that's why i think godot has better future and it's community is also growing non stop

[rocky canyon]

https://github.com/Jan-Ott/CharacterMovementFundamentals @rich adder the kinematic controller asset i bought a few years ago that i use for everything was just dumped to github..

he's deprecating it

[timber tide]

if you want to learn at a lower level on how 3D engines work, godot is actually a good experience

[rich adder]

yeah you wont notice until you notice the limitations believe me

but yeah simple can be benificial for you

[spark moth]

have you used godot?

[rich adder]

yea

[spark moth]

3D or 2D?

[rich adder]

its not a bad engine at all, it just wasn't right for me

[verbal dome]

Godot has been released as open source since 2014 and was in developement since 2001

[timber tide]

people say it's the 'easier' engine to learn, but I disagree and say it's easier to jump into, but harder to master since you've less tools available

[rich adder]

at the time I tried it i only did 2D and tooling in c# not much game wise

[spark moth]

ok so 11 years i thought it was 5

[rocky canyon]

try https://www.redotengine.org/ then..

[night raptor]

how come the open source time only count?

[rich adder]

I just find the whole workflow uncomfortable tbh

[rocky canyon]

the UI is sexy af tho

[spark moth]

but godot is better with GD script maybe that's why you hit limitations because GD script is much better for godot than C#

[night raptor]

Unity has been under developement for 0 years open source

[rich adder]

yea and I hate GD script or any pythony languages

[rocky canyon]

godot is more like entity system right?

[timber tide]

the language, built-in IDE (with built-in docs), and UI is by far the best thing about it

[rocky canyon]

i feel like the nodes things throws me off

[verbal dome]

Technically 24 years but you can't really compare a big engine with a team (unity) to an open source project anyway

[timber tide]

python is so fun though :DDD

[spark moth]

ok that's ur opinion. i still think unity is better than godot right now but godot will be better later

[rich adder]

its fun what it can do, the language itself can die

[rocky canyon]

ya, he said I hate.. ofc this is a "opinion based" subject in its own

no engine is subjectively better than another

[rich adder]

I'm not disagreeing, just stating what I didn't like about it .

[rocky canyon]

unsubjectively? idk u get the idea

[verbal dome]

Isn't python's performance just really bad? Why do people choose it for something as performance critical as a game engine?

[rocky canyon]

anyway.. w/e u chose to do best of luck @spark moth

[verbal dome]

I suppose most engines are written in C++ and python is only for scripting, but still

[spark moth]

thanks, and you also got the subscriber

[rocky canyon]

its really fast at math.. is what ive been gaslighted into knowing about it

[rich adder]

probably why pygame is limited af still

[timber tide]

only way godot succeeds unity is if unity goes bankrupt in the near future, or games get to the point where hardware exceeds the need for any more optimizations and then godot just because the 3D engine without any fees attached

[night raptor]

I think it has some really fast libraries in it. Any custom logic made in it is likely much slower than with compiled languages

[verbal dome]

From what i've seen, godot is like 10x slower in many cases compared to something like C#

[rocky canyon]

i feel like AI will be making games by that point

[rocky canyon]

the only reason id consider gadot would be as a 2D project

[rich adder]

but why choose pythony syntax is what makes me skeeved out lol
Unreal did it with Verse scripting smh...

[rocky canyon]

i could see it being atleast a bit competitive w/ 2D

[spark moth]

probably because it's has great AI development tools compare to it's difficulty

[verbal dome]

That isn't related to game engines though is it

Not directly at least

[rich adder]

python better for data science and ML

[rocky canyon]

https://discord.com/channels/489222168727519232/1202155978372423690 we need to tack on Gadot to this discussion 😄

[rich adder]

but you could probably adapt any Functional programming for that

[wintry quarry]

AI tools being in Python is similar to how datascience tools used to all use MATLAB. It's like - just what the PHD mathy people knew.

[timber tide]

Godot is surprisingly fast, but the rendering has problems, even with the new pipeline. It feels more like built-in considering how easy it is to use multi-shader passes

[spark moth]

wait why does the unity server even have this?

[rich adder]

why not ?

unreal isn't a stigma around here..

[rocky canyon]

just b/c it comes up so often

ud be suprised how many trolls come in.. and waste time and then say.. "well it doesnt matter, im going to Unreal"

[rich adder]

I still use unreal for other projects, not every engine fits everyones needs

[rocky canyon]

nice to have a thread to link as well when discussions like we're having now come up

but its missing gadot.

[spark moth]

according to google, C# is 4 times faster than godot and godot is faster than python

[rich adder]

google or google ai ?

[night raptor]

don't believe that

[rocky canyon]

👀 lol what?

[rich adder]

big difference

google AI just spews random crap

[night raptor]

no language is X times faster than other

[rich adder]

it all gets put into machine code lol

computer just wants 1s and 0s

[verbal dome]

"C# is faster than godot" doesn't make any sense

[rich adder]

i think they meant gd script

[verbal dome]

That would make more sense yeah

[night raptor]

Even then doesn't make much sense to say language is X times faster than other. It is all very much dependent on million things

[spark moth]

i mean GD script

[rich adder]

interpretation time is probably more important

compiled languages dont deal with that though

[sudden arch]

If I have

    void OnApplicationQuit() {
        FlushMetrics().Forget();
    }

in a MonoBehaviour and

private async UniTask<FlushMetricsResult> FlushMetrics() {
// (...) nothing with await
    UnityWebRequest unityWebRequest = new UnityWebRequest(url, "POST");
// (...) nothing with await
    UnityWebRequest.Result result = await unityWebRequest.SendWebRequest();
// (...)

is it realiable that unityWebRequest.SendWebRequest() is called before the application closes?

I don't need the result.

[rich adder]

like Fire and forget ?

[sudden arch]

Yes, but it should fire.

[rich adder]

should fine , its just a GetRequest

[spark moth]

i want to make 2D metroidvania games that's why i don't care that much for the speed. i want the language to be user friendlly but have a decent speed not it being very fast but not user friendly

[lean pelican]

What's the most practical way of attaching an animation/animated sprite to a static 'main' sprite?
I've got an unchanging bird body sprite, and two wing sprites (pointing up and down), and I managed to create a FlapWings animation that looks decent enough, but if I just attach it to the Bird object via an animator, the wings replace the main body sprite (as was to be expected according to what I understand).
Do I just need to create a 'Wing' child object in Bird attached to its back that holds the Animator and FlapWings, or is there some other way?

[spark moth]

and i have to go bye

[rich adder]

gdscript is more user friendly than c# ?

[spark moth]

yeah GDscript is easier than C#

[timber tide]

it's cleaner but I don't see the difference really

you lack interfaces but not like you need interfaces with c# to make something with unity

[rich adder]

pretty much yeah if there are meant to be different then put them in different objects

[rich adder]

func _on_body_entered(body):
    hide() # Player disappears after being hit.
    hit.emit()
    # Must be deferred as we can't change physics properties on a physics callback.
    $CollisionShape2D.set_deferred("disabled", true)```
🥵 
```cs
private void OnBodyEntered(Node2D body)
{
    Hide(); // Player disappears after being hit.
    EmitSignal(SignalName.Hit);
    // Must be deferred as we can't change physics properties on a physics callback.
    GetNode<CollisionShape2D>("CollisionShape2D").SetDeferred(CollisionShape2D.PropertyName.Disabled, true);
}```

[rocky canyon]

what the func?

[lean pelican]

I take it the Wing object also needs its own Renderer to be able to show the animation, right?

[rich adder]

yeah because thats what animates at the end of the day

[lean pelican]

I see, thanks.

[rich adder]

SpriteRenderer just gets the sprites swapped

[rancid tinsel]

is there any way to look up a value rather than key in a dictionary?

im doing an encryption puzzle, and want every letter to be a different letter but without duplication

nvm just rubber duckied myself

ignore me lol

ok I came up with this method, but out of curiocity is there a better/more efficient method of handling that?

so instead of looking for a value, I check it in the list instead

[wintry quarry]

Not sure I understand what this method is? It just looks like a dictionary and a list

The dictionary alone seems sufficient, no?

[rancid tinsel]

actually as I try to explain it I confuse myself

basically I need to also check if the value exists already for any key

[wintry quarry]

Make a hashset for the values

And check if the set contains it

But also

[rancid tinsel]

ill look into that thanks!

[wintry quarry]

Why do this select random letter thing

Just make a list of the letters

Duplicate it

Shuffle the duplicate

And then iterate over both lists in a for loop to set up the dictionary

[rancid tinsel]

that also sounds like a good idea I didn't think of that

is one or the other more efficient?

in terms of code I'm assuming yours is but out of curiocity is there a performance difference?

[swift crag]

It'd be worse if you had a huge pool of letters and only ever used a few

but if you usually exhaust the list, shuffling it once seems nicer to me

If you remove an item from the front of a list, all of the other items have to get moved up one position

I forget if there's a built-in shuffling method. I just use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher–Yates_shuffle

Also, if you want to prevent a letter from encrypting to itself, that adds a little more complexity

(i have no idea if you want that)

from a cryptographic point of view it'd be a bad idea

[runic lance]

there's also the trick to swap the element with the last one and remove it to avoid incurring the list reorganization cost when removing elements

it messes up the ordering, but doesn't seem relevant in your case

[swift crag]

true!

[rancid tinsel]

from what I read do I understand it correctly: you essentially take a random index, and that index is now the first, then you do that for the next and the next?

[swift crag]

No.

[runic lance]

huh, just noticed that there's an extension method for it in the Unity.Collections package

[swift crag]

You walk backwards from the end of the list, swapping that position with the front of the list

[runic lance]

always thought it was built in for Lists

[swift crag]

for position X, you swap with probability 1/X

I forget the proof for this one. I remember learning it back in a randomized algorithms class..

[rancid tinsel]

ok so you work backwards - you roll a number based on the number of things left, and then whatever that number is, is the new index of whatever bit youre on?

[swift crag]

The index is never random.

You simply decide whether or not you do a swap.

[rancid tinsel]

im so confused it literally says "rolled"

[swift crag]

Yes.

You pick a random number between 1 and N

where N is your index (we're doing 1-indexing here)

If that number is 1, you swap the element at index N with the element at index 1

If it is not 1, you do nothing.

You perform this for every item in the list.

[lean pelican]

How do I stop a (looping) animation in an Animator? I have a bird flapping its wings (which are the animated part, in a child object, but I'm accessing the Animator from the parent Bird's script), and on a game over, I want the Animator to stop the animation, but myAnimator.StopPlayback() doesn't seem to work. (Starting the animation, and everything else in the game over code works, so that's not it). What am I missing?

[rancid tinsel]

doesn't that result in most of the list not being shuffled if its large?

if you only swap them if you roll 1 then you can end up with only 1 letter changed no?

[rich adder]

did you untick Loop on the animator clip asset ?

[lean pelican]

Until the game over it's supposed to loop, though. Or do I need to disable the looping via code if I want it to stop?

[swift crag]

oh man I am a dummy

[rancid tinsel]

why whats up lol

[swift crag]

yeah, I mis-remembered the algorithm

[rancid tinsel]

its alright it happens

[swift crag]

Yeah, you pick a random index and swap your current item with that index

        public static void Shuffle<T>(this List<T> list)
        {
            int index = list.Count - 1;
            while (index >= 0)
            {
                int i = Random.Range(0, index + 1);
                if (index != i) (list[index], list[i]) = (list[i], list[index]);
                --index;
            }
        }

[rancid tinsel]

the most important thing is you remember the name so you can look it up!

[swift crag]

I was worried I had also implemented it wrongly, haha

I was remembering part of the proof that the algorithm works right

specifically, proving that it gives you a 1/N chance for the original first item in the list to keep its position

(which you'd expect for a random shuffle)

[rancid tinsel]

what does that mean in practice? a 50/50 or?

oh wait

[swift crag]

If your list has 4 items, the odds that you never move the first item are

[rancid tinsel]

nvm

[swift crag]

3/4 * 2/3 * 1/2

and that gives you 1/4!

[rancid tinsel]

yeah because any space in the list has a chance to roll one

thats interesting

[swift crag]

so my algorithm would correctly shuffle the first item into the list

unfortunately it would not do much else

[rancid tinsel]

😭

are there any other common methods for shuffling lists like that?

now that you explained it the Fisher-Yates one makes a lot of sense, so it's hard for me to picture other methods

[swift crag]

your original code is another option

it's just not an in-place method

you need two separate lists

[swift crag]

that's the main advantage of this method

[rancid tinsel]

yeah I think this method is slightly more optimised since I don't think I need the dictionary any more

[coral cape]

I have a float in one script im trying to update in a different one, I've referenced it at the beginning using
public RandomSpawner spawning;

But when I reference a public float I have in the other script later like such:
spawning.upgradedTime -= .5f;

It spits out "Object reference not set to an instance of an object" on the upgradedTime line, I didn't think I was even referencing an object here but I'm clearly missing something. Thank you for any help, sry if so basic I'm pretty new.

[rich adder]

declaring and assigning are two different things. Did you actually assign a specific component for it to do work on?

unity wants to know which RandomSpawner you want

[coral cape]

How do I let it know which RandomSpawner? I should only have one class named such and it seems to recognize the upgradedTime var when I call it in my script in my editor. Sorry again j vry confused to this

[rich adder]

you have a class yes that just defines the blueprint / describes how a created object from this will be like.
You need a specific object/component created from RandomSpawner

in Unity components are created by placing the script on the gameobject

then its now a created object from that template, and you can drop that into its inspector slot for your declared variable

[coral cape]

it makes sense I think, so sorry getting distracted from kid, thank you so so much for the answer though, I'll be back eventually to really give it a good read

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/Manual/inspecting-scripts.html
https://unity.huh.how/references/serializing-component-references
Here some useful resources

[wanton epoch]

I am having this problem with my camera where, when I look on the display, it is perfectly fine and on top of my players eyes:

But as soon as I try to play my game, the camera goes to my characters hips and outside his body:

All of my camera position and orientation are set to be on top of the model but im not sure what is causing this

my cameras rotation seem to be reversed for some reason too?

[frigid sequoia]

Should I worry about that warning?

[verbal dome]

I think that might call the wrong function

I would definitely rename them

[frigid sequoia]

Pretty sure is the only class with that method name

[rich adder]

I get that too sometimes but still works ok

[wanton epoch]

anyone got any suggestions by any chance or has run into something similar?

[rich adder]

its probably a script or animation

[chrome apex]

!code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://paste.mod.gg/, https://hastebin.skyra.pw/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://scriptbin.xyz/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[chrome apex]

// private void OnCollisionEnter(Collision collision)
    {
       if (collision.gameObject.CompareTag("Player"))
        {
            rb = collision.gameObject.GetComponent<Rigidbody2D>();
            //rb.linearVelocity = new Vector2(0, 0);
            rb.bodyType = RigidbodyType2D.Static;
            Debug.Log("collided");
        }
    }

Why is debug log not returning anything? They are physically colliding and everything seems fine otherwise

[rich adder]

CollisionEnter doesn't work with 2D colliders

[chrome apex]

ooooh

[rich adder]

you need the physics2d equivalent OnCollisionEnter2D

[chrome apex]

aaaah

ok thank you

[wanton epoch]

https://paste.mod.gg/jjnwzjowegvo/0

Would you mind quickly just checking if its my scripts?

I have 3 in here.

My PlayerCam to actually turn and stuff and turn the model
My MoveCamera to make sure my camera follows my camera position

And just incase, I also added my reticle script.

[chrome apex]

OK but now I get this:

Script error: OnCollisionEnter2D
This message parameter has to be of type: Collision2D
The message will be ignored

ah ok figured it out

[rich adder]

first you should show all the pivot points

in pivot local mode

more importantly cameraPosition object

[wanton epoch]

Im sorry, this is my first time hearing about pivot points and pivot local mode. Ill look up what that is.

[wanton epoch]

ye what about it

[rich adder]

yeah show me the pivot for it

full context showing hierarchy and all

[wanton epoch]

This is my hierarchy if this is what you mnea

[rich adder]

yeah but with the pivot

so like show the arrows of it selected in the scene

[wanton epoch]

oooh

[wanton epoch]

same pivot for my orientation

[rich adder]

didn't we do this yesterday r something ? or someone else with the same exact setup

[wanton epoch]

wasnt me thats for sure

[rich adder]

if you're gonna crop dont crop the important bits, doesnt show if its local mode

[wanton epoch]

it is

[rich adder]

which one has this script MoveCamera

show the inspector for it

[wanton epoch]

CameraHolder

[rich adder]

oh

[wanton epoch]

and player cam is in player cam

[rich adder]

is it when you turn mouse that it goess offset ?

those scales could be a big problem

[wanton epoch]

No it just already is off set. When i look in the game display, it looks fine and im on the eyes of my avatar model.

But as soon as I actually play the game, my camera goes all the way down to the hips and im outside of the body

[rich adder]

did you try starting with animator disabled

[wanton epoch]

i can test that real quick

[rich adder]

also would still put scale on Camera holder and Camera to both 1,1,1

just incase

[wanton epoch]

Nope the problem is still there. Also, when im turning my mouse, my character turns the same direction as my mouse, but my actual crosshair turns the other direction

[rich adder]

wdym your crosshair

why would crosshair be moving

is this not fpv ?

[wanton epoch]

sorry wrong phrasing, i mean my actual like direction im turning.

yes fpv

[rich adder]

aside from * Time.deltaTime

I dont think I see anything standing out wrong in code

[wanton epoch]

i put both to 1,1,1 my camera is now inside my own body. Its weird, like the way im looking, isnt the way my player is looking at all. im looking at the back and my character is too, but as soon as i press W, my character walks backwards. I which I can send you my project to properly explain this.

[rich adder]

never use * Time.deltaTime on mouse inputs, thats why your sens is crnked up to such high numbers.. Mouse input is already giving the distance moved since last frame so its already framerate independent

[wanton epoch]

oh ok

[rich adder]

what is scale of avatar

[wanton epoch]

all my controls become inverted as soon as I orientate my camera differently from the initial position

[wanton epoch]

1,1,1,

[rich adder]

oh ok

[wanton epoch]

would there by any way to send you this project to show the issue more appropriatly? im not sure if im describing it properly

[rich adder]

eh maybe if it were a repo

I'm kinda on the go rn best I can view is code or videos tho

[radiant frigate]

hello! im having a problem where inside a function to initialize some managers in my game, i get that one of the manager was found, but whenever i try to use it in the rest of the code it says its null, does someone know what could be the problem?

https://hastebin.skyra.pw/ofexisotov.pgsql

The top console message and the bottom one are the relevant ones, i think they should be checking for the same script right?

ty in advance

[rich adder]

maybe make a video that could give a better idea of whats actually going on since strat

[wanton epoch]

what would be the best way to send it if its too big?

[rich adder]

https://streamable.com

[wanton epoch]

ight gimme a sec

[rich adder]

you cropped all the lines, what are we looking at?

[radiant frigate]

ohh basically the top console log is line 46 and the bottom one is 166

if thats what you are asking for, maybe i´m confused

[rich adder]

uh that doesnt line up

[radiant frigate]

wait let me check

[rich adder]

screenshot the full error ?

[radiant frigate]

the error?

okey

[rich adder]

ye

[radiant frigate]

i thought we were talking about the debug.log

[rich adder]

so armyGridManager is nul ?

[radiant frigate]

so it seems

[rich adder]

def is

[radiant frigate]

but in the debug.log that i made in line 166 it says it isnt

Oh its you navarone

[rich adder]

it seems by the time it hits that SavePlayer2ArmyInfo method is not there

[radiant frigate]

long time not see

[rich adder]

yea yo

[wanton epoch]

At some point im moving, I am just pressing W and S. Nothing else, yet my controls are inverted or jambled up.
https://streamable.com/atspzf

[radiant frigate]

why could that be the case? i dont recall changing it

it should set itself on initializeManagers method and not be changed afterwards

[rich adder]

is Player a mb ?

[radiant frigate]

what is mb?

[rich adder]

Monobehaviour

[radiant frigate]

nope

its not

[chrome apex]

 GlassBlocks = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("glass");

        if (GlassBlocks.Length > 0)
        { foreach (GameObject block in GlassBlocks)

            {
                block.SetActive(true);
                Debug.Log("found em");
            } 
        }

OK why does this not work? The objects are checked for the correct tag and I initiate the search after they've been added into the scene

[rich adder]

put this line

Debug.log($"Assigning positions to {player2} from {armyGridManager}" , this);```

above 70

[radiant frigate]

okey

[rich adder]

yup ok so its 100% armyGridManager being null

does clicking it bring you to the correct gameobject just incase?

[radiant frigate]

clicking the armyGridManager Variable?

[rich adder]

nah like the log

[radiant frigate]

ohh

lemme check

it shouldnt be a gameobject tho

since player isnt mb

or am i saying nonsense right now?

[rich adder]

I mean the log that printed this that has GameManager

just checking it isnt a bad clone or something gone wrong

[radiant frigate]

oh, its a singleton

or should be

[rich adder]

if you click the log it should show you which object its on

when you add context to Debug.Log as second param at least (hence the this keyword)`

[radiant frigate]

it doesnt highlight any gameobject in the scene

[chrome apex]

OK I figured out this doesn't work with inactive objects. Do I really need to find all of the game objects in the scene and then compare tags?

[rich adder]

did you put this ? in the log as second param

[radiant frigate]

yes

Debug.Log($"Assining fights to {player2} from {armyGridManager}", this);

thats what i wrote on line 69

[rich adder]

weird normally it highlights the gameobject that spit it out

[radiant frigate]

hmm, im kinda lost

also this is my only scene

in case that helps with something

[lapis yew]

its

if (gameobjects > 0)
{
  foreach (bla bla)
  {

  }
{

you forgot a whole set of brackets

[rich adder]

which gameobject has GameManager script on it

[chrome apex]

I didn't, I just didn't copy

[lapis yew]

ah

[chrome apex]

anyway, turns out finding objects with tag doesn't work on inactive objects which sucks

[radiant frigate]

the GameManager that is on DontDestroyOnLoad

[chrome apex]

guess I'm gonna have to find all objects and then compare tag

[rich adder]

show inspector for it

[rich adder]

well..

now im wondering how any of them worked at all..

[lapis yew]

is there a reason you arent storing the objects in a list?

[grand snow]

do FindObjectOfType() instead if you must

[rich adder]

    {
        optionsManager = GetComponent<OptionsManager>();
        audioManager = GetComponent<AudioManager>();
        shopPoolManager = GetComponent<ShopPoolManager>();
        fightersOnSaleManager = GetComponent<FightersOnSaleManager>();
        armyGridManager = GetComponent<ArmyGridManager>();```

you know what GetComponent does right?

[radiant frigate]

it gets the component

[rich adder]

on THIS object

[radiant frigate]

or sets the variable to the component to get

[chrome apex]

I saw that one and I must admit I don't know what a Type is in this context. I saw it being used with a type of "GameObject" which doesn't help

[radiant frigate]

so that should be at the end of the method?

[chrome apex]

yeah I could do that too

[rich adder]

no your scripts are on the children, not on this gameobject. See where I'm going here..

[grand snow]

If you have a monobehaviour Car then you can do FindObjectOfType<Car>()

[radiant frigate]

oh

[rich adder]

if you want the component on the child use GetComponentInChilren

[radiant frigate]

get component in children

indeed

[chrome apex]

ah ok that's what I need then

so type is a class here basically?

[rich adder]

classes are types yes

[wanton epoch]

@rich adder Sorry im back, did u have any chance to watch my video?

[radiant frigate]

okay but it should be written on the end of the method also, right?

[grand snow]

myComp = GetComponentInChildren<Blah>();

[swift crag]

a type is a kind of thing

public class Foo { }
public struct Bar { }
public enum Baz { }
public delegate void Buz();

all of these define types

[rich adder]

wdym the end of the method? why

[radiant frigate]

yeah it makes sense

i said nonsense

if im checking if its null its dumb to set it later on

[swift crag]

types can be very broad, like unity's Object, or they can be very specific, like one of your own components

[radiant frigate]

lmao

[rich adder]

yes, from what i see there right now it has slight offset in positioning from Camera to Camera holder, that might already be a problem in itself

[radiant frigate]

but it still throws in an error

[rich adder]

show the error and send new code

also are you sure that InitializeManagers() is being called

[grand snow]

it has an arg you need to set to true to make it get from INACTIVE gameobjects

otherwise it will skip em

[radiant frigate]

should i add the prefabs as the children of gameManager?

[radiant frigate]

its being called on awake

[fleet venture]

How do i get all objects of a specific component in the scene, i tried Resources.FindObjectsOfTypeAll<Prop>() but that also gets the stuff thats not in the scene

[cerulean badger]

Do I use Rigidbody2D for top-down jumping or smth else?

[rich adder]

I know where it is in the code, but doesnt confirm its running by just looking at the source code

[grand snow]

use the same function thats in GameObject

[rich adder]

GameObject.FindObjectsOfType

[radiant frigate]

i get a debug.log that comes from awake, so yes it should

[fleet venture]

and that works for everything under that gameobject or is it global?

[rich adder]

wdym Global

[swift crag]

it's actually declared as UnityEngine.Object.FindObjectsOfType

so using GameObject is unnecessarily specific

[fleet venture]

like is it also objects on the same level and stuff

oh

[rich adder]

oh right its Object

[fleet venture]

ok ill just try it

and see if it works

[swift crag]

The method is a bit weird to me. It finds any kind of Unity object

but it also has special rules for inactive game objects

[grand snow]

someone asking this question doesnt need to know this 😆

[rich adder]

its static, doesnt mean the function only looks for GameObject tpye

[radiant frigate]

https://hastebin.skyra.pw/lonikusuba.pgsql

[swift crag]

in this case, it was causing confusion about whether or not it only found things on game objects

[fleet venture]

is it deprecated?

i cant navigate to it

[rich adder]

yeah new one is Like find First of Any type or some shit

[fleet venture]

idk what the line means

[swift crag]

oh yeah, it's been replaced with FindObjectsByType

[fleet venture]

ah

[rich adder]

the IDE tells you replacement

[swift crag]

The new methods explicitly ask you whether you care about order

I find it annoying; I wish they would at least default to being ordered (thus matching FindObjectsOfType)

[rich adder]

new method also specified inactive in a enum instead of bool

i think

[steep dust]

 public class NpcWaypointGroupEditor : UnityEditor.Editor
 {
     private void OnSceneGUI()
     {
         Event e = Event.current;

         if (e.type == EventType.MouseDown && e.button == 0)
             Debug.Log("LMB was pressed");
     }
 }

why is the text never logged to the console? Ik onscenegui is getting called but the ifstatement is always false.

[fleet venture]

ye it didnt but i think it was because i was running in debug mode

[grand snow]

oh right, but they were using the resources version before hence this happening. Object/GameObject one shouldn't get assets

[rich adder]

there is no right answer because we don't know exactly what you plan on doing with it

[fleet venture]

Great it works!

[rich adder]

unity 2d colliders only work in X,Y space so you gotta take that into consideration @cerulean badger

[fleet venture]

thank you!

[swift crag]

hmm, i wonder...

This doesn't return Assets (for example meshes, textures, or prefabs).

but what if I constructed a mesh at runtime?

that's not an asset

[grand snow]

hmm thats not something i thought of 🤔 no idea tbh

[rich adder]

doesn't it also work with Interfaces, or is that just GetComponent

[cerulean badger]

I want the jumping system to Interact properly with physics, applying collisions, making the player fall in case of a higher place and stuff. The player also should move freely while in air

[grand snow]

getcomponent can get interfaces i swear ive done that before
find may not accept it with the generic arg version

[rich adder]

i know for a fact it works for GetComponent just dont remmeber if it did for FindObjectOFType

[radiant frigate]

yep, no clue why it still is null

im checking and modifying some things in case its the mythical "oh, how couldnt i have thought about that b4" but cant get to it

[rich adder]

how do you call NextGameState()

[radiant frigate]

with a button on a canvas

[rich adder]

I have a feeling its somehow being called before InitializeManagers()

[radiant frigate]

it should not, since initialize should be instant, and i press the button on a few seconds of delay

[rich adder]

Debug.log
armyGridManager = GetComponentInChildren<ArmyGridManager>();
Debug.log($"did we grab ? {armyGridManager }")

[radiant frigate]

i write the debug.log exactly after line 106 right ?

[rich adder]

oh wait u do have a bunch of logs after, did t

[radiant frigate]

yep

[grand snow]

this is going in circles plz learn how to use a debugger to figure this out 😐 @radiant frigate

[modest dust]

This whole initialization problem could probably be avoided if these managers were simply attached to the game manager and referenced via inspector

[keen dew]

I'm pretty sure the game manager you've dragged into the button is not the same as the singleton that has all the stuff set up

[rich adder]

tbh this ^ prob

[steep dust]

how do I detect cntrl left click inside of the scene view in an ediot script?

[rich adder]

i cant think of anything else

#↕️┃editor-extensions

[steep dust]

ok

[rich adder]

there is like an event trigger type thing for editor though afaik

[keen dew]

The method on the button should really be something like

public void NextGameStateForButton()
{
    GameManager.instance.NextGameState();
}

That way you make sure that it's calling the instance's method

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Event-isKey.html I think it was this @steep dust

[radiant frigate]

i added them as a child earlier tho, ill try to make it via inspector

[swift crag]

i really don't like using GetComponentInChildren

it can blow up in your face in some surprising ways

[rich adder]

serializing in inspector > GetComponent on self/children

[swift crag]

(like when you add a new component and it gets grabbed instead of the existing one)

[steep dust]

lol i think i found my issue tbh I had the code inside of a custominspector script and when i left clicked it deselected it. I changed it to trigger on control left click and since you dont deselect what you're already hovering in the heigharchy when holding down control it started working

[radiant frigate]

makes sense

btw hi caesar !

[modest dust]

Well, if they're already children of the GameManager then it would be pretty normal to just set the references directly instead of writing a wall of code

[radiant frigate]

also long time no see

[modest dust]

And hi

[grand snow]

beginners do some truly weird things before they learn the ways of [SerializeReference]

[rich adder]

ideally, the only time one should really use GetComponent is when grabbing a dynamic object and usually doing TryGetComponent

[swift crag]

GetComponentInParent is a lot nicer. You often have one obvious correct answer there

I use that for things that must be attached to one of my game menus, so that I don't have to tell them all about the MenuController

GetComponent makes sense when component A absolutely must always be next to component B

[radiant frigate]

i want to announce that it works!

[swift crag]

But even then, I prefer to just make it explicit

I'm curious what was breaking previously.

[radiant frigate]

same

[swift crag]

I wonder if the game manager getting moved to DontDestroyOnLoad broke something

[radiant frigate]

but as a wise man said (probably) "dont repair whats not broken"

might be the case

[rich adder]

if it aint broke...wait..

[swift crag]

I'm pretty sure instantiating with a parent that lives in DDOL is fine

i do that a lot in my menu code

[radiant frigate]

kek

[swift crag]

it's not like it winds up in the main game scene and gets lost

[grand snow]

if it works but fucking shit then refactor it later ™️

[radiant frigate]

indeed

[rich adder]

//Todo: will need to refactor this
3 years later...yeah that aint done

[radiant frigate]

LMAO

[modest dust]

I love piling up technical debt

[radiant frigate]

tbf im doing a very small game that should not become spaguetti code enough to make me want to start from 0 once i learn more about coding

[rich adder]

spoiler alert: most of your beginning projects will be spaghetti no matter how hard you try

[grand snow]

oh yea the code we wrote when learning was trash but you gotta learn!

[rich adder]

with time you refine how well those systems you make become

[radiant frigate]

(im completely delusional with this quote btw)

you guys are all goated

[rich adder]

also at the end of the day you're making a game, it just needs to be fun and more or less performant . No one is gonna look or care about the code, as long as you are able to mantain it is the main thing

[radiant frigate]

ty for the big help

[radiant frigate]

yes, im making a demo for my friends to try out

(by demo i mean mini game, prolly wrong term)

[rich adder]

me too ! but with netcode atm lol

[radiant frigate]

what is netocode?

[rich adder]

neato code. typo lol

[radiant frigate]

no clue what that is

tbf im so much of a begginer on coding

[rich adder]

Netcode = Networking Code

[radiant frigate]

i have a random 2 week minecraft phase but isntead of minecraft coding

[radiant frigate]

ohhhhh (still no clue lmao)

[rich adder]

think multiplayer like uhh Among Us

[radiant frigate]

ohhh

okay

[rich adder]

coop type deal

[radiant frigate]

so a multiplayer game

[rich adder]

yea

[radiant frigate]

same here but mine is local

thats the difference right?

[rich adder]

yea

[radiant frigate]

hence the "networking code"

[rich adder]

I like the cooler term "over the wire"

[radiant frigate]

makes sense now

LMAO

i would love to do it online also, but i want to actually finish it and dont get depression lol

[rich adder]

it will be years probably. I know I waited at least 4 and I still feel like baby in comparison

[radiant frigate]

if you have anything you want to show to someone at any moment, my dms are open!

if you wanna infodump me about your games

[rich adder]

will do

[radiant frigate]

i wonder how its going to caesar

hope everything with his game is going well

[modest dust]

Busy with university rn, but I do plan on releasing a demo on Steam, preferably within a month or two, depending on how my final exam will go.

[radiant frigate]

i would love to get a notiffication whenever its up!

[modest dust]

I'll let you know. I'll probably also post about it in #1180170818983051344

[radiant frigate]

noice

[primal cliff]

Hi, I need to assign my object named src to this, but it's not in the hierarchy as it's from another scene which transitions into the one I'm working on right now, meaning that I can't drag it into here.
Is there a way I can do that? or would I need to use another method?

[modest dust]

Pass the reference to it via code

[primal cliff]

would I need to do it in any special Unity way or can I do that as I would with general c#?

[timber tide]

Can always handle audio in a global matter and make a singleton that holds onto them

[modest dust]

As long as a 'general C#' way works, go for it

You need a reference to your audio source, reference to the component with the src field, pass it in

A singleton is one way to do it.

[primal cliff]

thanks, worked

[rancid tinsel]

guys how on earth do i fix NUnit.Framework not being recognised as a namespace

ive got a Assets/Tests/Editor folder where the test script is with an assembly definition file

[wintry quarry]

you need to add the test framework as a dependency in your asmdef

[rancid tinsel]

as in, as a reference?

[wintry quarry]

for example

[rancid tinsel]

ohhh

now test runner doesnt see it wtf

ok i had to remove the tests folder entirely

and generate it via test runner and that seems to have fixed it

so unintuitive though

also for some reason it's also not seeing inheriting classes, only the base class

it sees BaseCipher and not the other two despite sharing the same asmdf file

[wintry quarry]

wdym it "sees" them

what sees them?

[rancid tinsel]

ok it just fixed

wtf

[wintry quarry]

What's in them? What are you trying to do? What errors are you getting?

[rancid tinsel]

visual studio*

this will fix if i change it

[wintry quarry]

probably just needed to regenerate project ifles

[rancid tinsel]

as in retype it

[rancid tinsel]

maybe but i dont think it did idk

no its back to being broken

im going to restart unity and hope it fixes

ok now there are no tests apparently

[wintry quarry]

Did you add your normal game assembly as a reference in your test assembly?

[rancid tinsel]

yes

[wintry quarry]

And CaesarCipher is in that game assembly?

Just go back and make sure all your asmdef changes were saved

[rancid tinsel]

they were saved

and yes its in the same one

[rancid tinsel]

you wont guess what it was

[wintry quarry]

You spelled the name wrong?

Yep you did

I see ea vs ae

[rancid tinsel]

XD

thanks for the help though

[wind hinge]

Im pissed off… how do I get audio to not desync when using Unity recorder package with Timeline? Sound effects too near the start of the TL are playing desynced. I already set the sounds in import settings to preload

[slender nymph]

this is a code channel

[rancid tinsel]

could someone explain this to me or point to a resource, I sort of get what it's doing but it's hard to wrap my head around

[mossy depot]

how do i fix this? its my first time trying to code something i just followed a tutorial

[rancid tinsel]

you declared the variable "OnFoot" instead of "onFoot"

[wintry quarry]

follow the tutorial better

[teal viper]

Now one would be able to tell you what it's doing without any context.

[rancid tinsel]

does this help?

[mossy depot]

thank you sir

[wintry quarry]

characters are just numbers in the computer. You can use this table to get the numerical equivalent for the letters:
https://www.asciitable.com/
A is number 65.

So B would be 66

If letter is B, then index will be 1, since you did 66 - 65

Basically you're calculating the index in that alphabet array

[wind hinge]

I managed to fix it by waiting 5 seconds before starting the timeline and the recording

[wintry quarry]

So B - A is 66 - 65, which gives us 1, which is perfect because B is at index 1 in that array

[rancid tinsel]

ok that makes sense

still so hard to do in my head though

[wintry quarry]

That's why we have the computers do it for us

[polar acorn]

Why do it in your head?

[rancid tinsel]

i mean just looking at the code, and visualising what its doing

might be because its late too

[polar acorn]

It's the difference between letter and A

You don't need to know what numbers each letter is

you just need to know they're in order

[teal viper]

Try writing a few examples on paper. Or creating a diagram. This could help grasp the algorithm.

[mossy depot]

how do i fix this?

[wintry quarry]

Finish declaring your variable

Also get your IDE configured

!ide

[eternal falcon]

💡 IDE Configuration

If your IDE is not autocompleting code
or underlining errors, please configure it.

Select one:

• Visual Studio (Installed via Unity Hub)
• Visual Studio (Installed manually)
• VS Code
• JetBrains Rider
• :question: Other/None

[wintry quarry]

variables in C# need a name.
e.g.
private <type> <name>;
You just have private <type>;

[mossy depot]

oh yea

u guys are smart

[frigid sequoia]

Can I not see the [HideInInspector] parameters on debug mode?

I kinda just want to hide them for the normal view

[deft loom]

whats the simplest way to add a reliable fps counter that won't itself poorly impact framerate?

[frigid sequoia]

Use time.DeltaTime

[wintry quarry]

void Update() {
  float framerate = 1 / Time.unscaledDeltaTime;
}```

[swift crag]

it would be impressive if you created a framerate counter that made your game lag

[inland terrace]

is there a way to play my unity project without alt tabbing from visual studio?

[rich adder]

Attach Unity

[rich adder]

even if you start it from Visual Studio you still have to interact with the Game View in unity editor..

[wintry quarry]

Get a second monitor

[inland terrace]

do you mean this button?

[rich adder]

yeah but all that does is press Play button for you, you still have to tab back in the editor , and ofc it also stop at line breaks if any

[inland terrace]

ah.. it gives me an error in some random script. i guess alt tabbing is required

[rich adder]

whats the error

[inland terrace]

playmode via unity works just fine

[rich adder]

are those old? you got some compile errors

[inland terrace]

ah nvm fixed it. extension was for some reason attached to the function. i guess i have to enable the debug mode to use that button

[rich adder]

yeah but again its more useful for break points and debugging than a way to press unity start from VS lol

[inland terrace]

got it ty!

[inland terrace]

oh wth i can leave playmode running.. edit a script and have the game updated?

cool beans

[rich adder]

it works very limited

sometimes you will get Missing script errors

best to reset if major changes done

[inland terrace]

got it

[dawn heron]

hey

i'm new to unity can anyone suggest me how to get started and learn on how to make scripts for player movement in a 2d game

[rich adder]

https://learn.unity.com/pathways

[dawn heron]

thank you

[frigid sequoia]

This is a thing I can do with methods right?

[slender nymph]

yes, that is called overloading
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/standard/design-guidelines/member-overloading

[lean pelican]

What's the most sensible/practical way to have audio (in my case just a short clip) keep playing through scene loading?
I figured it out via DontDestroyOnLoad(myAudioSource) and then Destroy(myAudioSource, myAudioClip.lenght), but I was wondering if
a) there's some other better way of doing it, and
b) if the Destroy() call even happens if the GameObject that the script is in gets destroyed by the new scene loading?

[slender nymph]

Destroy is a static method, it has no information about what object it was invoked from so it would still happen, yes

[cosmic dagger]

You should destroy it after the scene finishes loading. What if the audio ends before the scene loads?

[lean pelican]

I see, thanks.

Speaking of static, for Singleton manager classes (in this case my AudioManager) do I need to have them attached to a GameObject in every scene I want to use them in? Or is it possible to just create them once in the start/main menu scene and once they exist they're accessible from anywhere?

[slender nymph]

you can use DontDestroyOnLoad

[lean pelican]

I know. And if I do do I still need the script to exist in a GameObject in every scene to reference it or not?

[slender nymph]

what do you think DontDestroyOnLoad does

[cobalt flare]

well

i need help with buttons i cant click them therefore cant test;

[slender nymph]

doesn't sound like a code question. but make sure you have an event system in the scene

[cobalt flare]

ok

sprry

[lean pelican]

...I'm new and don't know all the specifics, why do you think I'm asking.
Also more to the point what's good practice? Do I just start my singletons in the main menu/boot up and then forget about them as long as I can be sure they exist? Or is there any point to have them lying around in every relevant scene too?

[cobalt flare]

then what?

[slender nymph]

you've provided almost no information so i couldn't possibly say what you need to do