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[willow scroll]

Yeah, that's what I told you about doing it multiline. The code is too big, so use a paste site

[wooden socket]

AH valid mb

[willow scroll]

Also not sure how you were able to make so many inline code lines so fast

[wooden socket]

wdym

i copieid my code over

from VScode

[rich adder]

i think it just never closed until they did threebackticks

[wooden socket]

https://hastebin.com/share/utudivitab.csharp

found it lol

[rich adder]

this problem is like the plague

[willow scroll]

I don't see the method addPoint being called anywhere

[rich adder]

how do we kill it

[wooden socket]

this is just for having the score appearing in the leaderboard scene

lemme send my other code

[rich adder]

are you sure also your text is Text not Text mesh Pro

do you have errors

[wooden socket]

nope

its text

[rich adder]

why is everyone using the legacy Text

[wooden socket]

lemme send the code for actually adding the score

https://hastebin.com/share/babiholawu.cpp

[rich adder]

put a log and debug the collision

[wooden socket]

the collision does work, it even adds the score

[rich adder]

show where you have the Text object in the scene too

[wooden socket]

i just dont know how to make it save the score and post it on the other scene

[willow scroll]

• 1. Are you sure the method OnTriggerEnter2D is called?
• 2. Are you sure the other's tag is bird?
• 3. Are you sure you want your score to be displayed as 123Points?

[rich adder]

oh I misunderstood, thought you said you dont see the text

[wooden socket]

lemme add that space

[rich adder]

use persitent object / data

[willow scroll]

Should the score be saved when leaving the game or just throughout the scenes?

In the first case, you don't even have to save it, as you already have a Singleton

[wooden socket]

the score should go away when leaving the game, but show when the scene goes to the leaderboard

i already got an online leaderboard thing

[willow scroll]

Written above for this case

[wooden socket]

wdym

[rich adder]

if you already have an online leaderboard just save it there..

[wooden socket]

no thats not what I mean

i want the score to appear as text IN that scene

like before its saved

[late verge]

help, what is causing this

[willow scroll]

You already got a UI Text for this

[rich adder]

so where is the score coming from to change the Text in scene to that value

[wooden socket]

the score is coming from the scene where the game actually is, and is then displayed on the leaderboard scene

[rich adder]

so whats the problem ?

[wooden socket]

before it is ACTUALLY saved to the leaderboard

the problem is iti isnt displaying on the scene

okay wait lemme send a ss

[willow scroll]

Well, could you show your Text in the scene first?

[wooden socket]

yes

[willow scroll]

This seems pretty vague to me

[willow scroll]

Not the hierarchy, the scene

[wooden socket]

when the scene loads, the new text in the middle disappears

[rich adder]

yes because you need to load the text

[willow scroll]

This is another scene

[wooden socket]

idk how I would do that

[wooden socket]

yea

[willow scroll]

You already have your score saved in your Singleton

[rich adder]

so how did you link the second "Text" scoreText

[raw token]

This probably isn't the correct channel for that question, but what render pipeline are you using?

[rich adder]

since its a singleton

how did you link the Text in scene 2 to the Text

[late verge]

I am on urp, but that is someone else packages I downloaded

[willow scroll]

You create a method for displaying the text and call it on new scene loaded

[neon ivy]

is there a way to use GetKey / GetKeyDown when not having the window focussed? it doesn't seem to work for me. I have "run in background" selected

[wooden socket]

under the canvas, I have a SocreText object

[rich adder]

what

[wooden socket]

in scene 2

should I delete that?

[willow scroll]

There is SceneManager.sceneLoaded

public static event UnityAction<Scene, LoadSceneMode> sceneLoaded;

[rich adder]

how's that answer How you linked the ScoreManager from scene 1 to Text in scene 2

[wooden socket]

idk if I even did do that

[willow scroll]

Impossible, I suppose.

[raw token]

What's your camera's "Background Type" set to (in the "Environment" drawer)

[rich adder]

your ScoreManager wants to change scoreText.text

you def have null refs then unless you never call AddPoint there
then you need to pass the reference properly

[neon ivy]

D: that's not a satisfactory answer :C

I want a second opinion -3-

[wooden socket]

should I have delete other scripts I made that make the objects consistent

i think I should

like the text camera and canvas

i made 3 seperate scripts

i dont wanna bloat my project lol

[rich adder]

you should only need 1 script if you're gonna use DDOL keep it simple for now

[wooden socket]

they are now gone

[willow scroll]

Well, it doesn't seem to be something you can control. You cannot really tell the window to be focused, because the Unity user is the one doing it. Note that these issues won't happen when playing your game outside of the Unity editor.

Second option: ignore.

[rich adder]

put the canvas in the DDOL as child of ScoreManager

[neon ivy]

I tried it in a build but it still didn't work...

[wooden socket]

gotcha

[rich adder]

that can be your Score canvas. LeaderBoards, Score etc.

[willow scroll]

Mm, as far as I know, it should

[neon ivy]

that's what I thought

[wooden socket]

okay I put it under the canvas

[willow scroll]

But the player cannot play the game without focusing it.

[wooden socket]

should I test it?

[rich adder]

wait.

[wooden socket]

okay

[rich adder]

you linked Score now from that canvas in the script

[raw token]

I'm not great with render pipeline stuff... but maybe the Skybox itself is scuffed. Try changing that to Solid Color and see if the issue disappears. If so, you might need to figure out what's up with the skybox, or maybe just find a new one

[wooden socket]

lmk when I should test, ur taking the lead here and im following

[wooden socket]

lemme see

[rich adder]

no bad way to do things

[wooden socket]

should I delete this

[rich adder]

don't blindly follow

[neon ivy]

other inputs like Microphone do work

[wooden socket]

like the scoreText

[wooden socket]

okay, i will be an active participant mb

[eager spindle]

this usually happens when skybox type is set to none

[wooden socket]

lol

[rich adder]

see how you didn't pay attention thats why you dont blindly follow

[late verge]

just changed it, problem isnt with skybox. The problem only seems to be present in scene view

[willow scroll]

Also not sure how you tested it. Simply opened the game window? When doing so, your tab is not focused, so you first have to click somewhere within the game window

[eager spindle]

so it doesnt clear the last buffer

[wooden socket]

shit im sorry

OH

[eager spindle]

if you changed any editor settings that somehow got rid of skybox then revert it

[wooden socket]

i read that backwards

im sorry

[neon ivy]

I need it to work without being focussed on the game window though...

[wooden socket]

okay I did it

sorry, yestarday I worked on this for like 15 hours

like the whole game

[rich adder]

btw this means the score text will be on the same spot in the different scenes

[wooden socket]

can I hide it in the first scene?

and not the last one

[rich adder]

you can sure

[wooden socket]

thats just the checkbox right?

[late verge]

I dont think thats the problem, has to do with the render pipeline

[rich adder]

well you would have to toggle that in code then

[wooden socket]

okay valid

[rich adder]

which leads you back into detecting when scene changed occurred

[wooden socket]

okay

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/SceneManagement.SceneManager-activeSceneChanged.html

the alternative is have Other script inside Scene 2 detect when there is a ScoreManager in awake/Start
then just grab score data for Text component / Canvas in that scene

[wooden socket]

should I send my code that detects when lives = 0?

[willow scroll]

Don't want to tell you that it's definitely impossible, but some time ago I was not able to find any way to do it, so it doesn't seem like you're able to "force" the player to focus on your game.
It seems like you should use the Application.isFocused boolean in suitable parts of your code, and (or) wait until the button, which activates the game, is pressed.

[rich adder]

irrelevant rn

[wooden socket]

okay I shall not

[neon ivy]

forcing it to be focused kinda breaks the purpose of the project as being in the background

[willow scroll]

Well, the most important thing is, do you actually have to have your player focused?

[wooden socket]

okay so whats next

[rich adder]

I've outlined two options for you 🤷‍♂️

[neon ivy]

I don't want the window to ever be focussed, I just want inputs to be recognized when not focussed.

[wooden socket]

okay wait what do I do with this

i dont just

copy it in right?

that would make 0 sense

[rich adder]

again, thats needed if you don't go with Option2

[wooden socket]

yea ik

[willow scroll]

Well, this shouldn't be a thing. Are there any apps you can think of, which do this?

[wooden socket]

which do u reccomend?

[neon ivy]

idk :I

trying to find stuff about it

[rich adder]

both are valid. I personally would have the object in scene2 only do work when it detects the Scoremanager

[wooden socket]

okay I will do that

[raw token]

It's definitely possible to send input events to unfocused windows via OS calls... Like AutoHotKey and similar software does so. I have no idea how you incorporate that into a Unity game though. Worst case, I imagine you could create a second standalone executable which launches with the game to handle that functionality.

[rich adder]

If the UI Text is only meant to live on scene2 but scoremanager needs to be in multiple scenes, no point on having it carry canvas with it here..

[wooden socket]

okayy

[willow scroll]

Just checked and Discord does that.

[bleak glacier]

I hate using this channel so much but I don't understand what I'm missing here. This seems like it should work but it doesn't. Where have I gone wrong?

using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class InventoryCloseButton : MonoBehaviour
{
    bool isOpen = false;
        public void ButtonPressed()
    {
        GameObject.Find("Inventory").GetComponent<Canvas>().enabled = false; 
        isOpen = false;
    }

    void Start()
    {
      GameObject.Find("Inventory").GetComponent<Canvas>().enabled = false;  
      isOpen = false;
    }

     void Update()
    {

      if (Input.GetKeyDown("e") && isOpen == false)
      {
      GameObject.Find("Inventory").GetComponent<Canvas>().enabled = true;  
      isOpen = true;
      } 
      

      if (Input.GetKeyDown("e") && isOpen == true)
      {
        GameObject.Find("Inventory").GetComponent<Canvas>().enabled = false; 
        isOpen = false;
      }
    }
}

[polar acorn]

What does "doesn't work" mean

What are you expecting to happen that isn't happening

or what is something that you're not expecting to happen but is

[bleak glacier]

The canvas isn't displayed

[wooden socket]

do I make it not a child anymore?

[bleak glacier]

It works without the bools and the second GetKeyDown though

But I want e to close the canvas on the second press

[rich adder]

my dude just storre the canvas once in a field private Canvas what is going on with all the Find

[wooden socket]

so how do I edit the code to where it detects when it appears

[rich adder]

nope

[willow scroll]

Is it really possible? When having 2 windows opened at the same time, and e.g. scrolling when focused on the 1st window, does it mean the 2nd window is also going to receive the input?

[rich adder]

because the Objects in scene2 run Awake/Start when scene is initialized

assuming they're not gameobject disabled

[wooden socket]

okay so im going to removve that

okay i will not

[ionic zephyr]

If my craftying system is based on the number of objects you have on the crafting station (for example: If I place 3 sticks and 2 stones it will craft a hammer, the order in which this objects are placed does not matter just the number of them that are in the station at that moment). I am also using Receipt ScriptableObjects but what should those objects have, any ideas?

[willow scroll]

After I think about this, it should cause users even more troubles when wanting to do something on the focused window, and doing unneccessary things on the 2nd instead

[rich adder]

what is "that" lol speaking vaguely

[wooden socket]

im sorry

[neon ivy]

https://github.com/elringus/unity-raw-input?tab=readme-ov-file
I think I found it

[wooden socket]

i meant make them unrelalted

[polar acorn]

So, read through the Update function in the order the code runs:

1. Check if you pressed e this frame. For the sake of demonstration, let's assume yes.
2. Check if isOpen is false. Let's assume it is.
3. Enable the canvas (you should cache this reference please for the love of god don't use a find in update)
4. Set isOpen to true
5. Check if you pressed e this frame. As established in step 1, you have
6. Check if isOpen is true. As established in 4, it is
7. Disable the canvas
8. Set isOpen to false.

There is no possible outcome in which the canvas is enabled when this function ends

[rich adder]

just unparent the canvas.. put script to change UI only in the script of UI objects in that scene

ScoreManager should only Keep track of score, or modify it

it should not deal with UI

[wooden socket]

okay unparented

[willow scroll]

I see, after reading the description, it seems like there is a huge point in receiving specific keys in the background.
#💻┃code-beginner message

[wooden socket]

now which script do I put where

i put the script in the leaderboard right?

[rich adder]

also no need an update for everything you do

[wooden socket]

like leaderboard scene

[wooden socket]

okay

[rich adder]

put the script that changes UI in the scene that has the UI doesnt matter which object you put it on..as long as the reference to the Text object is properly linked in the inspector

[wooden socket]

ok

put the script that changes UI which iirc is scoreManager in a new empty?

[raw token]

I assume you could do that, yeah... Like you can definitely capture input events regardless of which window is consuming them. And you could forward the events to another window if you have it's window handle, or possibly process ID?

This isn't a realm I've explored to a great degree, but I believe it's all plausible. Absolutely no clue how to accomplish within a Unity game though, or even how you make calls directly to system libraries 😁

[willow scroll]

@wooden socket don't forget about [this thing](#💻┃code-beginner message)

[rich adder]

ScoreManager should not touch the UI

[wooden socket]

okay

[ionic zephyr]

And how can I check the object can be crafted using the receipt

[rich adder]

not even needed anymore. The UI Script can be its own script that changes the UI element in scene2

[dusty shell]

could anyone explain how'd use raycast to check if the player is colliding with a floor or wall

[wooden socket]

so im making a new script

wait no i have one iirc

nvm

[rich adder]

it needs to be a script in scene2 so yes its a seperate script as I said already

    ScoreManager scoreManager;
    private void Awake()
    {
        scoreManager = ScoreManager.instance;
        if (scoreManager)
        {
            myUiText.text = scoreManager.score;
        }
    }```

[willow scroll]

Yeah, it seems like it might be needed when e.g. updating the application's music with a long Ctrl + Shift + Alt + +

[polar acorn]

Raycast in the direction the player is moving. RaycastHit has a normal property to get the normal vector of the surface it hits.
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/RaycastHit-normal.html

You can use the dot product of that normal with Vector3.up. If the value is close to 1, it's a floor. If it's close to 0, it's a wall. If it's close to -1, it's a ceiling. You can adjust the allowable difference in the dot product to change how sloped of a surface you want to count as what

[willow scroll]

How is this script going to receive the score?
Pretty dumb. Instance.

[dusty shell]

i don't know what raycast is

[polar acorn]

Then that should probably have been your first question.
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Physics.Raycast.html

[dusty shell]

thanks

[wooden socket]

my UItext should be renamed to what i called the text object? I called it displayText

ok that didnt work

[rich adder]

yes 2+2 is 4 lol

[eager spindle]

a raycast is a check to see if theres an object at a location.
e.g. if you raycast in front of you, you check what object is in front of you.

[wooden socket]

doesnt exist in current context

[ionic zephyr]

how can I check if an object is craftable (using Receipt ScriptableObjects) only based in the quantity of each object inserted in the Crafting station?

[rich adder]

can you show what you actually wrote instead of speaking in vagaries

[eager spindle]

whats a receipt gameobject

oh

[willow scroll]

Didn't work? Have you not succeeded in renaming the text object to "displayText"?
Also it seems like all the texts can be called "displayText"...

[wooden socket]

WAIT

[rich adder]

this error is meaningless..

[wooden socket]

THATS AN EMPTY NOT TEXT

[rich adder]

show what you actually wrote

[bleak glacier]

Found a solution! Instead of having both if statements I swapped the second if statement for an else if. Thanks for the breakdown!

[polar acorn]

What is displayText

[willow scroll]

my ears.

[ionic zephyr]

depending on the objects inserted according to this receipt, it will generate an object in the output

[willow scroll]

It doesn't exist.

[eager spindle]

you havent made a displayText

[eager spindle]

could you show us whats in this receipt

[rich adder]

why didn't you make a field for it..

[eager spindle]

in fact cant you just add a bool to say if its craftable

[polar acorn]

Irrelevant

[eager spindle]

youll also need to do it in code

[rich adder]

this isnt even related to the script..

[wooden socket]

ok

[polar acorn]

There's nothing in the script named displayText

[rich adder]

scripts have 0 knowledge of whats in the scene hierarchy

[eager spindle]

you made a thing in the scene called displayText, but your code dont know what displayText is

[rich adder]

naming the object displayText doesn't magically appear in code lol

[swift crag]

that would be a nightmare

[wooden socket]

so i make a new field called what

[rich adder]

All my Container objects 🥵

[polar acorn]

Name an object "this" and watch the world explode

[eager spindle]

you can name it whatever you want as long as it has the type TMPro.TextMeshProUGUI

[rich adder]

name it whatever the hell you named the the non-existing field ?

[eager spindle]

dumb name but theres an explanation for it

[rich adder]

their Text isn't TMP apparently

[polar acorn]

Names don't matter, call it whatever you want

[swift crag]

A field needs two things:

• the type: what it holds
• the name: how you refer to it

The name does not matter, as long as C# allows you to use the name at all

[eager spindle]

what the sigma
ok then make it have the type UnityEngine.UI.TextMesh

[dusty shell]

So it's like a beam from the player in any direction for a given length?

[rich adder]

just make sure the type is correct @wooden socket

[eager spindle]

yep

and if the beam hits something then you can retrieve it

[rich adder]

why the hell did you put brackets

[dusty shell]

hmm so the origin of the beam would be the center of the player?

[eager spindle]

so lets say you want the player to interact with an object they're looking at. to get the object they're looking at, you do a raycast from the player's position in the direction they're looking at to get the collider

[rich adder]

at this point you need basic c# courses pinned in this channel

[wooden socket]

idk how to make a field im sorry

[eager spindle]

it depends on what you want, but in your case you can make it from the center of the player

[eager spindle]

oh you should probably do c# tutorial before coming here to unity

[wooden socket]

immediantly after this I will do as much research as I can

[eager spindle]

it will save you a lot of brai ncells

[rich adder]

you literally made them already thats why

[dusty shell]

this is in 3d context right?

[eager spindle]

tbf thats just copypasting stuff online

[eager spindle]

this works for both 2d and 3d context

[rich adder]

"as much research" its not that diffcult.
"What is a field in c#" or some shit

instead of just guessing it

[eager spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrtFtdTTfv0

boo

c# tutorial

[wooden socket]

okay got it

[eager spindle]

freecodecamp saved me a lot

[wooden socket]

i didnt know it was called a field

i know what that does though

mb

[rich adder]

then you see how simple it is to google something and know about it?

[eager spindle]

as a programmer you learn everything by googling

[dusty shell]

Oh i see how you could use it in 2d so how do I set the raycast origin?

[rich adder]

reading the manual and googling sure

manual always comes first

[eager spindle]

for 3d, we normally do Physics.Raycast. but for 2d we use Physics2D.Raycast. bring up the doc page

[wooden socket]

so in my case its

public string Text displayText

because its a string of text

[rich adder]

at this point you're just guessing

[wooden socket]

im not

[eager spindle]

i find it interesting how the first programmers who had no internet could only consult manuals and maybe a few $200 books, now everything is so convenient

[wooden socket]

im genuinely trying to figure this out

[eager spindle]

string is a type. Text is also a type

[rich adder]

thats what happens when you skip the basics

no one is saying to learn the whole language overnight, but the basics are needed

[wooden socket]

i just am worried to google stuff because I want to make a career in game design and i think it would look bad to google stuff so I want to remember it all

is that wrong/unprofessional?

[eager spindle]

string, int, float, double, bool are primitive types.

TextMeshProUGUI, MeshRenderer, Rigidbody are all classes. classes are made off primitive types

[eager spindle]

no

you need to google to survive

[rich adder]

which makes a lot of the paid courses very sad coming from old timer where internet was literally not an option
so much good info out there for free, you just need critical thinking skills

[eager spindle]

there is no memorisation in programming

[wooden socket]

pinning this to my wall

[eager spindle]

imagine paying for $2000 bootcamp in 2024

[languid spire]

yes we did and, no IDE's just a basic text editor

[wooden socket]

thank you

[rocky canyon]

the world before the internet was almost a better place.. bitter - sweet the internet was

[rich adder]

yes thats what computers are for

[eager spindle]

we have the luxury of hitting one button to compile now, last time we had to precompile -> compile -> assemble -> link with several different tools that could cost hundreds per license

im too young for that 😴

[rich adder]

true programmers use code that don't need compilers

[raw token]

I still pack around my step-father's Kernighan & Ritchie "The C Programming Language" like it's a family heirloom

[wooden socket]

okay so no more errors, but the text still isnt appearing

[eager spindle]

ok lets see your code now

[rich adder]

yeah thats right its not magic

[wooden socket]

the script is on the text object under the canvas called displayText

[rocky canyon]

my first computer was black and white.. and my dad wrote code on a Commadore 64, with just a tiny couple line display and code he got from magazines 😉

[rich adder]

there are serveral steps involved

[wooden socket]

https://hastebin.com/share/rigeyosubi.csharp

[eager spindle]

could you also show the inspector panel of the gameobject that the script is attached to?

[wooden socket]

yes

[eager spindle]

you have not made a Text

[rich adder]

so you cannot even copy correct

[rocky canyon]

^ i wish everyone would ask this originally.. should be a requirement lol

[rich adder]

the issue is they never even call .text anyway

[rocky canyon]

ooof-sicles

[rich adder]

i literally spoon fed them the way to do it and they copied wrong

[rocky canyon]

see what happens when u do that

when i do that im usually about to bolt 🤣

[eager spindle]

i will give a step by step breakdown of what you need to do.

1. add a public Text to your class.
2. set the text of your Text to your score, as a string.
3. in your scene, go to the gameObject that the script is attached to. drag the Text in your scene into the field

[wooden socket]

im sorry if im messing this up a lot

[eager spindle]

issok we will all learn

[rocky canyon]

no worries.. thats how u learn

[rich adder]

its fine to learn, but dont blindly copy. if you dont understand something You ASK dont guess

[eager spindle]

to delve straight into unity is a big undertaking, I'd rather do projects in c# without unity first

[wooden socket]

should the script be on an empty or the ACTUAL text object

[eager spindle]

uh its up to you?

[rich adder]

we said already were it belongs..

scroll up

[rocky canyon]

as long as u drag in the Gameobject the Text is on into the slot u declaared in the inspctor

it doesn't matter where the script is

most times it makes most sense to include it on the object its manipulating the most

[rich adder]

ideally you dont want to put scripts on UI elements

[rocky canyon]

like u'd put a rigidbody controller on the object w/ the rigidbody.. vs putting it on a random empty

[severe lynx]

how come this isnt working?

[rich adder]

they are difficult to find

[ionic zephyr]

If my crafting system is based on the number of objects you have on the crafting station (for example: If I place 3 sticks and 2 stones it will craft a hammer, the order in which this objects are placed does not matter just the number of them that are in the station at that moment). I am also using Receipt ScriptableObjects but what should those objects have, any ideas?

[severe lynx]

im trying to figure it out

[rich adder]

read the error

GameObject is not LogicScript

[rocky canyon]

its gameObject

[eager spindle]

the return type of FindGameObjectWithTag is GameObject.
you want a LogicScript

[rich adder]

the function returns GameObject

[severe lynx]

sorry should have been more clear i dont understand the error

[eager spindle]

how do you get a LogicScript from GameObject

[rocky canyon]

GameObject is a type (could be any gameobject)

gameObject however is this gameobject.. the one ur working the script on

[rich adder]

the function you are using returns the GameObject type
you're supposed to tell it you want also another component on it

[eager spindle]

we dont know what a Receipt is

or what any of your code looks like

[wooden socket]

okay we are getting closer. now it just says "NEW TEXT"

[rocky canyon]

make ur GameObject -> gameObject in other words

[rich adder]

or just simplify it to
logic = FindObjectOfType<LogicScript>()

[rocky canyon]

^ yes this too.. but i find as a beginner keeping gameObject around tends to help solidfy the idea

same with this

but people argue thats not needed either.. which its not.. but 🤷

[eager spindle]

you've added a gameobject to the scene 🎊
the next step is to let your script know it's there. in your class, make a public Text scoreText. we will only help you once this is ready

[severe lynx]

oh, logicscript isnt gameobject

i see

[ionic zephyr]

I´ve placed three smiley faces and two weird faces, I want that the crafted object is made out of these faces without taking in account the order they are placed in

[eager spindle]

my question is, what is Receipt

[rich adder]

correct they are different type

[eager spindle]

we dont know what Receipt is

[raw token]

Is Receipt a recipe?

[wooden socket]

its in

[eager spindle]

even if its misspelled as Recipe we dont know what it has

[severe lynx]

awesome thanks. im using the gmtk tutorial, and i think some of it is outdated

[ionic zephyr]

yes, sorry

[eager spindle]

ok could you show us how you added the script to the gameobject?

[rich adder]

I think you might have skipped a .GetComponent<LogicScript> maybe ?

[ionic zephyr]

An ScriptableObject that I can compare to the ones in the station to determine if an object can be crafted

[eager spindle]

what is in the scriptable object

[rocky canyon]

nah, most tutorials still hold up today.. Unity hasn't changed too much... there may be a function or two that has changed names (your IDE will tell you that kind of stuff)

[wooden socket]

since you said not to usually add scripts to text, I made a new empty

[ionic zephyr]

Thats what I want to discuss, could you give me any idea?

[rich adder]

thats fine

this is wrong though

[severe lynx]

yep... maybe i should let him finish his sentence...

[rich adder]

ScoreManager is a DDOl it should not hold any references to any scene object

idk how many times i had to say that

[severe lynx]

sorry for my impatience lol, thanks for putting up wit me

[eager spindle]

nicee scoretext is added correctly. look through this article: https://docs.unity3d.com/2018.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/UI.Text.html
look for the part that says The string value this Text displays.

[rocky canyon]

yes this.. logic = FindGameObjectWithTag("Logic").GetComponent<Logic>(); is probably what the tutorial has @severe lynx

altho thats a hella long line of code 😄

[rich adder]

its not, its on the wrong script

[eager spindle]

changing the Text's text will let you change the script

[eager spindle]

its referenced correctly they dont know how to change the value of text

[rich adder]

ScoreManager only carries the score

they are putting UI in the wrong script

[rocky canyon]

gonna make extra dependencies for no reason

[rich adder]

Scoremanager is a DDOL having the reference will just break

[rocky canyon]

ohh it is..

[rich adder]

thats why its been said from the beginning the UI Text belong in its own script in scene 2

[eager spindle]

I shouldve known

[rich adder]

I mean you kinda started interjecting without seeing the original problem lol

[eager spindle]

why not use a static variable for the score rather than introduce ddol

[orchid pewter]

yo can someone help me rq, im trying to load up smt i made from a video, and i copied the exact script he said, i can ss if someones willing to help

[eager spindle]

we can help you here

[rocky canyon]

DDOL are cleaner imo

[rich adder]

the score is as static

[rocky canyon]

especially if its a system

[orchid pewter]

ill send ss 1s

[rich adder]

and they also did a DDOl

[eager spindle]

strange combination but sure

[wooden socket]

wait shit lemme clarify

[cosmic dagger]

dont ask to ask, just ask . . .

[rocky canyon]

u can static a variable.. im good with that.. but a DDOL is better for a Manager type script

[rich adder]

You can't tell by now they're just guessing their way though it?

[orchid pewter]

its saying this, i can send screenshot of scripts

[rocky canyon]

i can tell now yes

[wooden socket]

this is in the new script i made

[eager spindle]

a big part of learning programming is throwing shit at the wall until it works, then learning why throwing shit isnt as good as doing it properly

[orchid pewter]

yeah, im just new here im just trying to be nice

[rocky canyon]

you need to yes..

but not a screenshot

use !code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[rich adder]

okay so why did you show ScoreManager still with a Text field

[rocky canyon]

one of these methods

[rich adder]

and you still copied the awake wrong..

[cosmic dagger]

make sure you copied everything 1-to-1, exactly . . .

[rich adder]

at this point Im not wasting my time goodluck to ya lol

go learn the basics

[wooden socket]

im sorry

[eager spindle]

i will try to help you but uh

[orchid pewter]

before i came here, i went there and i copied the exact same thing

[rocky canyon]

i'll spit out some code/logic from time to time.. but yea i think u need a bit more understanding of the basics

[orchid pewter]

1s im sending script

[eager spindle]

unity is a strange place theres multiple ways to do one thing

[orchid pewter]

!code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[cosmic dagger]

the error is with the Character script. can you post that, and also their version?

[orchid pewter]

ok

[eager spindle]

is displayScore attached to the Text?

or to a manager?

[orchid pewter]

the version is -2021.3.39f1

[rocky canyon]

irrelevant

[wooden socket]

displayScore is added to the text component

[cosmic dagger]

no, the other person version of the Character script. you said you copied, so we need to see what you copied from . . .

[raw token]

I guess at the very least, it needs to identify the required items and their quantities, and the item which they produce.

So maybe like a

[Serializable]
struct RecipeIngredient {
  public ItemSO Item;
  public int Quantity;
}

public RecipeIngredient[] Ingredients;
public ItemSO Product;

...or similar

[eager spindle]

ok nice
under Start, could you set displayText.text = "This text is working!"? just to double check it works

[rich adder]

thats like saying, you can just get behind the wheel and start driving, you dont need to know anything about How traffic laws work..

[cosmic dagger]

when making an item, you need the ingredients, their required quantity, and the item produced. that's all . . .

[wooden socket]

scoreManager is not a parent of the canas as well

let me add the under start part

[polar acorn]

If ScoreManager is a singleton there's no reason to keep a local copy of the variable

just use ScoreManager.instance

[rocky canyon]

ohh digi in the house

[eager spindle]

changing displayText.text lets you change the text shown on screen. you can use this to display the score as well.

[rich adder]

yeah that one is my bad
was going to add unnecessary null check lol

[eager spindle]

the article that I sent earlier also has a lot of cool stuff you can play around with

[cosmic dagger]

!code

[rocky canyon]

ohh god.. did u not read the bot message?

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[orchid pewter]

its not letting me send full

[rocky canyon]

people on mobile can't see those things

use a link website ^

[cosmic dagger]

i can't see on mobile . . .

[rocky canyon]

theres 5 or 6 of em posted

[cosmic dagger]

plus there are no line numbers . . .

[rocky canyon]

private void CalculatePlayerMovement(){
    _movementVelocity.set(_playerInput.HorizontalInput,0f,_playerInput.VerticalInput);``` heres the good part

every one of his errors are on that line i believe

[orchid pewter]

wtf

[rich adder]

you are expecting people to pay attention

[orchid pewter]

mb

[polar acorn]

!code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[rocky canyon]

use one of these just for ease

[eager spindle]

i wonder what's the process to contributing to the unity dyno bot here

i wanna try my hand at making a bot that auto pastes stuff into the paste site

[orchid pewter]

sorry, i cant understand it, i went to the 2nd website pasted the code and idk what to do

[rocky canyon]

talk to the moderators

[polar acorn]

send the link

[rocky canyon]

and then they'll talk to the Admiins

[eager spindle]

go to https://gdl.space/
paste your code

done

[rich adder]

too much potential for abuse

[orchid pewter]

https://gdl.space/togarafuge.cpp

[rocky canyon]

oh if they let use have bots in here it'd be OV.. i'd have a bot response for everything imagineable

[orchid pewter]

this?

[polar acorn]

I kind of liked it better when the bot just deleted unformatted code

[eager spindle]

yep

[orchid pewter]

lets gooo

[rich adder]

oh my why was this eever removed..

[orchid pewter]

i did it

[polar acorn]

Too many false positives

[wooden socket]

okay im REALLY close. the "this text is working" part worked. I just need to learn how to pass the value from the scoreManager script into a string and add it to the points

[eager spindle]

whats in scoreManager actually

[wooden socket]

like the points part of the text object

[cosmic dagger]

now can you show the person's code you copied?

[rich adder]

until the next problem

[cosmic dagger]

or a link to it . . .

[eager spindle]

do you know how to use scoreManager.instance?

[orchid pewter]

i can screenshot it

[polar acorn]

Okay now what is the actual question?

[rocky canyon]

scoreManager.instance.variableYouWant = newValue;

[eager spindle]

lets talk about line 20. you just set movementvelocity to the player's input, now you're setting it again

[cosmic dagger]

i see one of the issues and possibly the other two, as well . . .

[rocky canyon]

Vector.set <--

[eager spindle]

also line 21, *- is not a valid thing

[polar acorn]

presumably, the score is a variable on your ScoreManager. ScoreManager is a singleton so you have a reference to it, just get the variable from it

[wooden socket]

okay I think you figured out the problem. inside of scoreManager, there some stuff with UI and thats not good

https://hastebin.com/share/ozucocitah.csharp

[rich adder]

geee I wonder

[eager spindle]

"why doesnt this work"

[rocky canyon]

scoreManager.instance.score; 😉

[orchid pewter]

what do i do instead?

[eager spindle]

what is line 21 supposed to do

[polar acorn]

What are you trying to do

[rocky canyon]

what does his code look like? on that 1 area?

[polar acorn]

What were you intending that operation to be?

[orchid pewter]

wait let me make this easier imma send a ss, of the other person

[orchid pewter]

ill send it 1s

[eager spindle]

big hint: scoreManager.instance.score is an int. we want it as a string

[wooden socket]

okay

[rich adder]

jesus h...why does Scoremanager still have public Text scoreText;

[eager spindle]

c# things: how to convert your variable to string?

[cosmic dagger]

please do, i've been waiting . . .

[rich adder]

you're just gonna get a Null Reference on the next scene if you try add score..

[rocky canyon]

@orchid pewter one error is Capitalization... its Vector.Set not Vector.set

[eager spindle]

theres a displayScore script attached to the text right now so things wont go horribly wrong

[orchid pewter]

im super new to this im trying to make a 3d game, from a course i bought from udemy, i just did everything he said, and copied everything, this was supposed to be a player movement

1s yall

[rocky canyon]

ur making simple mistakes

[eager spindle]

udemy course

[rocky canyon]

misspellings and capitalization errors

[cosmic dagger]

that's the one i wanted to screengrab from the other person's code. i bet that is there . . .

[rocky canyon]

oh i know it is

[polar acorn]

Show their code

[eager spindle]

all the udemy courses jump straight into unity and want buyers to wing it in c#

[rich adder]

you realize in the next scene there is no scoreText refrence in the ScoreManager

[orchid pewter]

im finna do this 1s

[cosmic dagger]

i've (we've) been waiting for their code for what seems like forever . . .

[rocky canyon]

garbage

[eager spindle]

as in, displayScore is attached to a Text in the scene thats not on DDOL. the scoreText on the ScoreManager doesnt do anything for now

theres a raccoon among us

[cosmic dagger]

that's it, i'm making a udemy course. all GetComponent and Find calls . . .

[rocky canyon]

Bandit 😉

[rocky canyon]

throws my money at you

[rich adder]

it does, Thats why i said if AddPoint is run in the next scene it will null ref

[orchid pewter]

i cant send ss, it turns dark yall

[rocky canyon]

well i alrady mentioned ur main error

[polar acorn]

Then I'll just pre-emptively post this anyway

"I did it exactly like the tutorial so why does theirs work and mine doesn't" counter:
Number of times it wasn't exactly like the tutorial: 167
Number of times it was exactly like the tutorial: 5
Number of times the code literally did not exist: 1
2022-07-19 to 2024-06-26

[cosmic dagger]

hey, it's a good way to fund a game, no? or my creative passion . . .

[orchid pewter]

can u go back to it

[rocky canyon]

#💻┃code-beginner message

[eager spindle]

im tempted to make a c basics course promisinig to eventually move on to game development eventually but teaches development for embedded devices first so they learn to treasure the novelties of memory-safe programming languages and appreciate c# and not think they can wing it through unity

[eager spindle]

need a live counter of this

[rocky canyon]

u work on embedded stuff?

[rich adder]

learning C to use C# is just plain a waste of time

[orchid pewter]

i cant see what line it is

[eager spindle]

not anymore but I did it for school for a short time

[eager spindle]

know a little here and there

[rocky canyon]

its torture lol

[orchid pewter]

no vector?

[polar acorn]

It is a live counter

[orchid pewter]

velocity?

[rocky canyon]

movementVelocity is ur vector

[polar acorn]

Every one of these is one I personally witnessed

[eager spindle]

my salutations

[orchid pewter]

ahh ok thanks, sorry for not understanding shi btw, im very new to this

[rocky canyon]

_movementVelocity.Set(otherVector);

i believe thats it. i've never set a vector that way before personally

[orchid pewter]

ok, i reload now ye?

[eager spindle]

yea we all just vel = new Vector3(1,1,1)

[rocky canyon]

well save and let unity recompile.. it'll clear atleast (1) error

[ionic zephyr]

ok, I´ll try that, thanks

[cosmic dagger]

damn, C with embedded devices? that's from the beginning. i just started C++ just cause. all the pointer stuff is crazy, from raw pointers to shared_ptr and unique_ptr, delete, etc. using const everywhere and separate files for definition and implementation. very different from C# . . .

[rocky canyon]

the way of the pros

[wooden socket]

im really close again. im sorry if im being annoying or unhelpful. my code for scoreManager looks like this. I even converted the int to a string, but it still says new text. What am I doing wrong :( https://hastebin.com/share/rabubiqomo.csharp

[eager spindle]

i have a mild disdain for c++

[eager spindle]

feels like a sin coming from c++

creating a new object just like that

[rich adder]

the link dont work

[rocky canyon]

i just started embedded C development.. soo far its as a pain in my ass as i thought it would be 🤣

[wooden socket]

https://hastebin.com/share/rabubiqomo.csharp

[wooden socket]

wtf how

[rich adder]

that site sucks

[wooden socket]

https://hastebin.com/share/rabubiqomo.csharp

[rich adder]

use gdl

[wooden socket]

THERE we go

[cosmic dagger]

i do all the time. only for vectors that already exist. no point increating a new one if you already have one . . .

[rocky canyon]

well i meant. i do vel = myVector;
i wasn't necessarily talkin about creating a new vector

[eager spindle]

looks good, what's wrong here?

[rich adder]

no it doesn't

[eager spindle]

the question is how do you get myVector

[rich adder]

  public static implicit operator ScoreManager(string v)
    {
        throw new NotImplementedException();
    }
}

``` wtf goin here

[wooden socket]

for some reason it still says "NEW TEXT"

[rocky canyon]

pre calculated / assigned

ohhhhh i see what ur saying

[wooden socket]

wtf

it added that on itself

[rich adder]

this is the wrong script

[wooden socket]

oh i must have misclicked

[eager spindle]

this is in ScoreManager. because of the way you set things up, scoreText isnt set to anything right now

[cosmic dagger]

wow, that's scary. i'm just going to make a text-based dungeon crawler with C++. so far it's not too bad . . .

[rich adder]

You have to remove the public ScoreManager scoreText;

there is no point of storing Scoremanager in ScoreManager thats nonsense

[eager spindle]

fun stuff. if you want a very simple graphics library you can give Raylib a try, I use that to teach people brand new to programming

[willow scroll]

Are you still trying to display the text . . .

[rich adder]

bro fr

[willow scroll]

You got this . . .

[cosmic dagger]

it says that Vector3 does not have a definition (in this case, a method) called set. in the tutorial double check what they did and make sure yours is the same. then come back with the result . . .

[wooden socket]

could it be because of scoreText.scoreText?

[eager spindle]

its probably with a capital S

[rich adder]

teach man to fish..just feed man to shark and get it over with..

[rocky canyon]

ur talkin to a wall

[rich adder]

ok at this point you're just trolling

[orchid pewter]

yeah, thanks

[wooden socket]

dude

im really not

thats just rude

[rich adder]

why in the shit is
public ScoreManager scoreText;
inside ScoreManager

explain that

[eager spindle]

your ide needs to be set correctly

[wooden socket]

i told you I just removed it

[eager spindle]

teach a man to shark, so you can shark more people

[rocky canyon]

wow.. it just tells you like that?! thats amazing... 😈

[cosmic dagger]

@orchid pewter yep, i want them to find that the difference is in the capitalization so they understand that C# is a case sensitive language . . .

[rich adder]

So onto the Next Script, show that

[raw token]

Light a man a fire and he's warm for a night. Light a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life 😉

[rich adder]

this is the way

[orchid pewter]

oh, tysm, u helped me alot

[wooden socket]

okay before I send it, I just added the public ScoreManager ScoreText to the new script

[rich adder]

why

[wooden socket]

im sorry let me undo it

[rich adder]

you see wat I mean

thats literally troll

[eager spindle]

let's explain the science here.

ScoreManager's ScoreText is set right now. however, when you switch a scene, ScoreManager's ScoreText no longer exists. it is null.

do you still have displayScore?

[rich adder]

you're just adding shit to scripts just for shits n gigs it seems

[eager spindle]

could you use displayScore instead of ScoreManager's scoreText to display stuff

[wooden socket]

i can try it

[rich adder]

blind leading the blind

[eager spindle]

the big problem of throwing people straight into unity as a beginner is explaining the concept of mutability, how do we tell people that references can be null

[rich adder]

how about saying it about a dozen times?

does that click?

[spiral raven]

This is the beginner channel. Let's try and give folks the benefit of the doubt. If you're not into it today or have an impatient mindset, try and step away for a moment 😊.

[wooden socket]

i have displayScore script yea

[rich adder]

beginner is no excuse for not paying attention

[eager spindle]

ok nice
in displayScore, probably in update, set the Text's text to Scoremanager.instance's score

[rich adder]

literally hand fed the solution and they still write their own lines just because ?

[eager spindle]

remember the days when game development was only for people who graduated specialising in computer graphics

[spiral raven]

It kind of is. They may be struggling with understanding your messages.

[rich adder]

thats nonsense, i have no background in that..all it takes is a bit of critical thought

[willow scroll]

Impatient? They are extremely patient for someone trying to display the text for hour and a half, it seems.

[wooden socket]

how do I do that

[eager spindle]

erm

do you remember what's in displayScore

the Text that you had

[winged seal]

Hello i am New to Unity im trying to make a mod For My summer Car. I have the Model But im doomed i cant code any tips or anyone can help?

[wooden socket]

man im sorry. ive been awake for over 15 hours working on this game and im really tired and just want to finish this part and then ill go to bed

[willow scroll]

Haven't you gotten to this point yet . . .

[rich adder]

then take a rest.

[eager spindle]

youre trying to make a mod? have you decompiled the game yet

[rich adder]

you being tired should not be a waste of time for us

[summer stump]

I'm sorry, but discussion of modding is not allowed here
#📖┃code-of-conduct #854851968446365696

[winged seal]

Oh sorry im new here

[summer stump]

All good. Best of luck!

[winged seal]

Yes.

[wooden socket]

display score contains public Text scoreText and public Text displayText

[eager spindle]

its very helpful to know how to actually use unity now that you've decompiled the game, though we cant discuss that here you should know c# before you continue at all. focus on learning c# before learning unity, then learning to mod

[summer stump]

Instead of piecemeal description, you could show the actual code

[winged seal]

i mean i did code on roblox meh.

[eager spindle]

lua is different tbf

[summer stump]

That is basically modding.

[winged seal]

Yes.

[wooden socket]

whats the command for the paste stuff

[summer stump]

gdl.space

Use that site

[eager spindle]

remember how you changed the Text earlier? something like displayText.text = "Swag". you can now replace "Swag" with the score, as a string

how do you convert the scoreManager's score to a string

[wooden socket]

okay in the update I wrote displayText.text = and now I think thats how you do it but i dont know what to put here

[rich adder]

why is it in update..

[eager spindle]

simplicity sake

lets save us all the sanity for now

[eager spindle]

how do you get ScoreManager's score from within displayScore?

[wooden socket]

also heres the entire code https://gdl.space/rugogafuye.cpp

[eager spindle]

know the policy here: we will not give you whole lines of code but point you in the direction instead

[rich adder]

ScoreManager scoreManager; isn't needed anymore

[wooden socket]

scoreManager = ScoreManager.instance right?

[rich adder]

ScoreManager can just be accessed when you need it with .instance

[eager spindle]

❌ thats for getting the ScoreManager. we now want the Score from the ScoreManager

[wooden socket]

is this the part of recieving the score or passing it

[rich adder]

this displays the score, what do you think

[wooden socket]

ok

[eager spindle]

I suppose we're receiving the score? we want to receive the score and use it in the text

[wooden socket]

i dont know

im really sorry

i know i look really stupid

[eager spindle]

take some time drink water eat a banana

come back

[rich adder]

just stubborn

not stupid

[wooden socket]

i just want to get this done

[winged seal]

but where can i learn c# for free mind asking?

[eager spindle]

in the beantime we should talk about the rubber ducky method. take your nearest rubber ducky or person, and explain every line of code you have to them

[rich adder]

You refuse to learn for 30 mins how to properly do some c# basics, instead you rather waste hours on one thing you barely understood

[summer stump]

https://www.w3schools.com/cs/index.php

And then
https://learn.unity.com/pathways

[winged seal]

thanks

[eager spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrtFtdTTfv0
freecodecamp saved my life. in the meantime im making a tutorial too

[rich adder]

Oh god those long format C# videos

yuck

[wooden socket]

please tell me how to do it

[eager spindle]

this implies you want short form c# videos. why would you learn c# from tiktok

[rich adder]

have you seen the ones on microsoft learn?

[summer stump]

It does not imply that

[rich adder]

they are delivered in short bursts

[eager spindle]

your ScoreManager contains a Score, which is an int. you want to convert this to a string.

[summer stump]

Youtube is simply a bad place for learning code

[eager spindle]

ms learn uses so much nerd terms

[rich adder]

"nerd terms"

[eager spindle]

i learn much faster reading

[rich adder]

what

[wooden socket]

ohh then I use ToString

[rocky canyon]

if its not a string originally u have to convert it to a string yes

[eager spindle]

this entire page is unreadable for beginners even though its helpful

[eager spindle]

yesss

now you got the string you can set the text to it

[rich adder]

this is the API documentation
not the Microsoft learn site

[languid spire]

those 'nerd terms' which you disparage are technical terms and they are used for accurate communication

[summer stump]

False

[rocky canyon]

terminology is super important in communication

w/o it = wasted time

[rich adder]

I mean dude is reading API expecting "non nerd terms"

[eager spindle]

this is from learn.microsoft.com though

[wooden socket]

what would the final line in Awake be? just scoreManager = score.ToString().ScoreManager.instance?

[rich adder]

no its not

its from the docs

[polar acorn]

You need to know the proper terms for things because that's how you communicate. Try reading any tutorial with every noun replaced with "thingy"

[rich adder]

I can see the references of API on the side

[eager spindle]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.action-1?view=net-8.0

[rocky canyon]

i have friends that talk like that 🤣 soo sad

[rich adder]

thats not the video format i was talking about now is it ?

[ivory bobcat]

Score managers score
You'd access the referenced manager via Instance property and read or write to the score.

[eager spindle]

it is still from ms learn though

i want to find a way to exclude pages like these from my searches

[rich adder]

yeah lets keep changing goal posts

[summer stump]

Yes, that random thing is from ms learn.
It is also not what they were talking about....

[wooden socket]

i just dont know what tis line is

this

in the Awake

[spiral raven]

Do beginners need to worry about the Action class?

[eager spindle]

wrong way around actually
we want to get ScoreManager's instance's score as a string

[serene acorn]

All the "base unity" functions such as OncollisionEnter() come from making a script inherit from monoBehavior right?

Is there any "unity custom function" that doesn't come from there?

[eager spindle]

its very convenient

[wooden socket]

like this?
scoreManager.ToString() = ScoreManager.instance;

OHG

[rich adder]

bro is trollin

[rocky canyon]

in the script that changes the text.. u can access the gameobject

[wooden socket]

wait gimme a se

[summer stump]

What are you asking for.

[spiral raven]

It is. But not for beginners, I think. Unless they come from FP, but then they can read the help text anyway, most likely.

[serene acorn]

Same for update,start, fixed update...

[eager spindle]

we dont want scoremanager as a string, neither do we want to set scoremanager as a string to something else

[rocky canyon]

theTextUrChanging = ScoreManager.instance.score.ToString();

[serene acorn]

Just that, if all of the unity functions come from monoBehavior

[summer stump]

No, those are for MonoBehaviours, and Scriptable objects have similar

[rocky canyon]

^ read the lines of code in pieces.. this.this.that

[eager spindle]

they all come from monobehaviour but note that monobehaviour also inherits from behaviour

but yes

[polar acorn]

Serious question: Do you know what = means in code

[wooden socket]

scoreManager doesnt exist in the current context now

[serene acorn]

So I can check monoBehavior and see what functions do I have in unity

[summer stump]

Yes, the ones on a MonoBehaviour at least

[rich adder]

oh believe me they will mess this one up too somehow

[summer stump]

But there are methods on other types as well of course

[serene acorn]

So checking the monoBehavior page I should see all the functions unity has and that the engine allows me to do by default

[summer stump]

This is called the "api"

[eager spindle]

yeah

[ivory bobcat]

Copy and paste will still fail if not within their specific context - zero integration unfortunately 😅

[rocky canyon]

i think they're ignoring the most important comments anyway

[wooden socket]

okay I added ScoreManager scoreManager back bcs someone told me to delete it earlieir

[eager spindle]

replace it with ScoreManager.instance because you removed scoreManager

[rich adder]

yup thats how i know its troll

[eager spindle]

no its fine keep it deleted

[spiral raven]

Sorry for pointing my "let's behave" finger at you earlier. They should take a rest and come back to give it a try again later 🤓.

[polar acorn]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ExecutionOrder.html

This shows all of the message functions, and what order they are sent in

[serene acorn]

K thank, I was just a bit confused because I thought something like "OncollisionEnter" would be inside a collision component

Like boxcollider2D.oncollisionenter()

[eager spindle]

now that I think about it yeah why is OnCollisionEnter in monobehaviour

[serene acorn]

Or something like that

[wooden socket]

then where does ToString go? doesnt it go after the instance or before ScoreManager?

[rocky canyon]

it goes After the number or int or float or w/e it is ur wanting to change to a string

[serene acorn]

Shouldn't it be inside a collision component ?

[rich adder]

no worries. I'm quite patient when the situation requires, once i see someone isn't even trying and just careless wasting everyone time. Thats where frustration sets in

[eager spindle]

ToString is not applied to ScoreManager. It is applied to ScoreManager's instance's score

[serene acorn]

Yeah that link is the order, and the monoBehavior the list of functions they have right?

[eager spindle]

on a normal day in c++ you'd make an interface, and register the object in the physics server

but unity did not seperate collision from gameobject

[summer stump]

Rigidbody and Collider both have that method

[wooden socket]

does it go before or after

[ivory bobcat]

Neither

[eager spindle]

it goes after, since it s the ScoreManager's instance's score

[serene acorn]

They do? I was searching for it inside those 2 components and didn't find it

[polar acorn]

This contains the list of functions Unity will call on an object that derives from MonoBehaviour

[eager spindle]

you want to get the score from the ScoreManager's instance, as a string

[serene acorn]

I don't like to use "premade" functions unless is something basic

[wooden socket]

i put it there and it keeps saying it doesnt exist in the current context

[summer stump]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Collider.OnCollisionEnter.html

[ivory bobcat]

It goes after an integer, float or some type that needs to be converted to string.

[summer stump]

You are confusing many concepts

You should absolutely make use of the api

[wooden socket]

AND in the scoreManager script itself it says the name scoreText also doesnt exist in the current context

[serene acorn]

Yeah but you can't do something like boxcollider2d.oncollisionenter()

[eager spindle]

but thats the purpose of the engine, to give you premade stuff

you dont need every game developer to write the same box collider

[summer stump]

No, because that makes no sense

It is a callback.
Well in this case, it is a magic method using reflection, which gets a message sent

[serene acorn]

Components can have their own functions right?

Then why wouldn't it make sense for a collider component to have the collider trigger functions inside of them?

[eager spindle]

yes. to be precise, a Monobehaviour is a Behaviour which is a Component. thus, if you choose to inherit from Component for some reason you can add your own functions

[serene acorn]

Could I do something like mygameobject.mycollider.oncollisionenter() instead of the default one?

[eager spindle]

sure

[summer stump]

No

[eager spindle]

but why

actually no

you needto define it

[wooden socket]

i think fixing one will fix the other 2. Im really sorry

[eager spindle]

so you cant define the function of an object from another object

[summer stump]

I guess yes, you could create your own method that would not be called by unity. But it would not work the way I think you meant. It would be a completely different unrelated method

[serene acorn]

That's why I asked if the collision components unity had don't already have their own functions

[wooden socket]

do I have to make a scoreManager field?

i dont think I do

[serene acorn]

So it's just unity that instead of making the collision functions inside of the collider component, they did it outside of them?

[eager spindle]

its a Collider thing even though its in Monobehaviour for some reaosn

[eager spindle]

no

[raw token]

Some of MonoBehavior's members are just for convenience or common caching... like GetComponent() is a shorthand for gameObject.GetComponent(), transform is just a convenient shorthand for gameObject.transform which itself is a convenience and cached reference for accessing gameObject.GetComponent<Transform>()

[summer stump]

It is a magic method, and they use reflection, as I said

[eager spindle]

your objective is to set the Text's text to ScoreManager's instance's score as a string

[serene acorn]

That's what I thought, I just wanted to use the long wording at the beginning so I can know where things come from

[wooden socket]

im sorry to be that guy, but just tell me. I feel genuinely ill from how much ive worked on this straight and im very tired and I feel so badly for coming off so stupid and incompetent

[summer stump]

It is against policy here to just tell you. Sorry

[wooden socket]

damn

[summer stump]

#854851968446365696

[ivory bobcat]

They're callback functions and are basically subscribed to Mono Behaviour - with some magic, relative to implementation.

[serene acorn]

So monoBehavior is like "here have some shortcuts to your code"?

Where does "OnCollisionEnter()" come from exactly then?

[polar acorn]

You need to take a second and actually think through what the code is doing. It's not magic runes, the words have meaning, just as much as the ones you're reading right now. You don't need to memorize what code does or have someone tell you, you can read it and know what it says

[rich adder]

Also saying you're tired just comes off as a lazy excuse, the sensible thing would be to work on this with a Fresh rested mind. No one in their right mind wants to code tired. you get no benefits when coding tired.

[polar acorn]

Nowhere, because OnCollisionEnter takes a Collision parameter so it's actually OnCollisionEnter(Collision other)

[summer stump]

I already told you twice. Collider and Rigidbody have those methods
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Collider.OnCollisionEnter.html

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Rigidbody.OnCollisionEnter.html

[wooden socket]

okay so heres what im trying to do

make the int a string

but i dont know where to put it

[eager spindle]

how do you get the int

let's talk about the int first

[wooden socket]

from the Awake that says "scoreManager = ScoreManager,instance

[eager spindle]

❌

[wooden socket]

*. instance

[eager spindle]

that's not an int, that's a ScoreManager

[polar acorn]

There is no need to have a variable. Just use ScoreManager.instance

[wooden socket]

okay

[serene acorn]

That's what's weird because I tried to do exactly that and didn't work

[eager spindle]

the ScoreManager has the int though

[wooden socket]

im working in the displayScore script

[serene acorn]

Will check again

[wooden socket]

do i go to the scoreManager script?

[eager spindle]

yep that's fine, don't go to scoremanager

[wooden socket]

ok

[polar acorn]

What did you do, what were you expecting to happen, and what happened?

[eager spindle]

You already have the reference to the scoremanager

[summer stump]

Do exactly what?
I am not saying to do Collider.OnCollisionEnter.

I am saying the methods reside there
You write OnCollisionEnter only

It is sent to the two MonoBehaviours involved in the collision. One that has a collider and rigidbody, ine that has a collider

[wooden socket]

is there anything in the void Update?

[eager spindle]

ok do you know what a Class is

[ivory bobcat]

Instead of you calling your code, mb says I'm going to call some callback functions at certain times and if you decide to implement them, they'll be called during the specific times listed https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ExecutionOrder.html

[wooden socket]

its like

the object template right

[eager spindle]

yes

[rich adder]

not a Unity object mind you

[serene acorn]

I put a box collider into my game object

So if I reference that game object with something like

'''Boxcollider2d mycollider'''

[rich adder]

its 3 backtics, those are single quotes

[serene acorn]

I could do something like mycollider.oncollidionenter()

[polar acorn]

no

that's not how that works

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Collider.OnCollisionEnter.html

[rich adder]

those are Messages that are sent from the Rigidbody, you cannot directly call them

[serene acorn]

Aren't messages functions?

[eager spindle]

in this case the ScoreManager class contains a few things to use.

public class ScoreManager {
public static ScoreManager instance;
public int score;
}

the way you access something in an object is to use the .

in this case if you have a scoreManager, you can do scoreManager.score.

scoreManager is the same as ScoreManager.instance

[summer stump]

As I said so many times, no

[rich adder]

they are like events , the function you are using uses the value(collision/collider) of the said Event (message)

[summer stump]

Reread this
#💻┃code-beginner message

[eager spindle]

so now you can use ScoreManager.instance to get the score

[serene acorn]

Please stop being passive aggressive, there are like 4 people writing me

[serene acorn]

Ok thanks

[summer stump]

You are listening to none of us, and I am not heing passive aggressive. Please don't be rude because of your misunderstanding of the tone I am using

[polar acorn]

They are functions called by Unity. If you have a function with that signature, Unity calls it. That's the thing I linked you to. A list of message functions and when they run

[wooden socket]

so I put this in displayScore?

[eager spindle]

Yep

[ivory bobcat]

It's not just On Collision Enter. It's all of these functions (check the messages section) https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/MonoBehaviour.html
including the common functions you're unknowingly using: Awake, Start, Update etc.

There are some prerequisites for having them fired though, read the docs for the specific method.

[wooden socket]

okay so in the Awake I have scoreManager.score = and thren I deleted the scoreManager.instance

what do I put now

[polar acorn]

Why are you trying to change the score in awake

[eager spindle]

on a different note if you happen to have a couple instantiated thousand GOs with an empty definition how much of a performance drop is there? since Vs warns about that

[ivory bobcat]

We're not supposed to give out code unfortunately.

[wooden socket]

should I put it in start?

[eager spindle]

❌ you don't delete scoreManager.instance

[polar acorn]

Are you trying to change the score?

This is the first I'm seeing about you wanting to change the score

[wooden socket]

no i just want the score to update with the value from another scene which is the actual game

[serene acorn]

Yeah so they are functions that unity has as base then right? And yeah I suppose OncollisionEnter doesn't trigger if there is no collider

[ivory bobcat]

🤷‍♂️ Use the profiler and it would be relative to a specific targeted platform/device(hardware specs)

[polar acorn]

So then why are you trying to set the score to something?

I ask again since you ignored me before: What do you think = in code means?

[serene acorn]

The thing I just didn't get is why the collision managing was on unity instead of in the collider components

[wooden socket]

something means something

like something means something elsse

[serene acorn]

And yeah In the docs it says collider.oncollisionenter

[rich adder]

wdym collision managing ?

the rigidbodies are what send the event

[serene acorn]

But doesn't seem to refer to a boxcollider or a rigidbody

[summer stump]

It happens via the physics engine. Either Box2D or PhysX

[polar acorn]

If you were to write the line of code:
x = 7
in English, what would that sentence look like?

[long jacinth]

yo so i wanted to add some recoil to my gun so it rotates up when it shoots but umm i dont know how to do that

[wooden socket]

x is equal to 7

[summer stump]

The physics engine refers to them, and sends the message to a registered monobehaviour

Because where else would you make use of it but a custom script?

[rich adder]

Rigidbody hits a collider, thats phyiscs.. Both colliders in the collision get broadcasted to both of their respective Monobhaviors if they have one

[serene acorn]

In order to have collisions, a game object must have a collision component, like rigid body or boxcollider right?

[polar acorn]

Every line of code is a command or a question. There's no such thing as a statement of fact

[summer stump]

One object must have both. The other must have at least a collider

[rich adder]

no to have collisions you need a Collider
if you want physics you add Rigidbody

[serene acorn]

So why isn't it build on those components, instead of having those functions outside of those components

[polar acorn]

Phrase your answer in the form of an imperative statement or a question

[summer stump]

Because that would be confusing and worthless?
Why would anyone want that?

Physx or Box2d just informs the monobehaviour that there was a collision

[wooden socket]

how do I make the int a strig

string

[polar acorn]

Don't dodge the question

#💻┃code-beginner message
Translate this, in the form of a command or a question

[wooden socket]

im not trying to man

[serene acorn]

Shouldn't the collider component manage the collider logic?

[wooden socket]

make x equal to 7

[eager spindle]

int i =5;
I.ToString();```

[summer stump]

How would you write code in a collider?

[polar acorn]

Because then that would make it impossible to write scripts that do something custom on a script you made

[eager spindle]

🥣

[serene acorn]

Like, if I put a sprite component I would hope it to have sprite related functions

[polar acorn]

Correct. x = 7 means "Set X to 7"

[rich adder]

they were already spoon fed the answer, you aint helping

[long jacinth]

i really dont know what im doing wrong lol or how i can achieve what i want to do

[summer stump]

Where would you write those sprite related functions?

[polar acorn]

So, going back to this, when you put scoreManager.score = you are saying "Set scoreManager's score to"

[wooden socket]

all im asking is

okay wait

[polar acorn]

Which is not what you wanted to do, correct?

[eager spindle]

ok so gun.transform.rotation is not something you can change, you can add a Vector3 to it though

[polar acorn]

So then why were you trying to write that?

[serene acorn]

Dunno, the same way you can write custom code in a. Custom script and make a custom component

I'm not a dev

[eager spindle]

make a Vector3 where the X and y is 0, then change Z

[summer stump]

So a MonoBehaviour
A MonoBehaviour is a component. It is custom code. It is where you write code affecting gameobjects

[polar acorn]

. in code is the same as 's in English

[long jacinth]

hmm so i make a new vector right?

[polar acorn]

It's a possessive

ScoreManager.instance means "ScoreManager's instance"

[eager spindle]

Yep and add it to the current vector

[polar acorn]

ScoreManager.instance.score is "ScoreManager's instance's score"

[wooden socket]

i set it to ScoreManager.instance

[polar acorn]

Now, what you want to get it the score's ToString(). How might you do that

[serene acorn]

So that's what ai was asking before, if all of these "commonly use functions" are made their ein monoBehavior because the devs knew they were used a lot

Instead of having them in a component

[wooden socket]

I just dont know where to put ToSttring()

[serene acorn]

Independently

[summer stump]

In a component simply doesn't make sense. That is what I am saying.

They belong to a component, but they are sent TO a MonoBehaviour, where you can actually do something with it

You write code in MonoBehaviours, so that is where you would want it

[rich adder]

the Text wants string, your score is a number.. take a wild guess

[polar acorn]

My messages got a bit scattered because of other conversations, so I'll put them together in one go so you can read it:

. in code is the same as 's in English
It's a possessive
ScoreManager.instance means "ScoreManager's instance"
ScoreManager.instance.score is "ScoreManager's instance's score"
Now, what you want to get it the score's ToString(). How might you do that?

[ivory bobcat]

Rotation property returns a quaternion. You probably shouldn't be modifying a quaternion. To add your specific Euler angle as a quaternion to the rotation quaternion you'd use the asterisk operatorcs rotation *= Quaternion.Euler(...);
Check the code example from the docs for more details https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Quaternion-operator_multiply.html

[wooden socket]

its on the same line right

[eager spindle]

fill in the blanks

int score = ScoreManager.instance.______
displayText.text = score.________

we will not provide any help after this

have a good night's sleep and do c# tomorrow 😴

[polar acorn]

It doesn't matter if it's on the same line or different ones as long as the syntax is correct

[serene acorn]

Yeah but monobehavioour manages a ton of functions of different backgrounds right? It manages collisions, but also start, update and others

And I suppose that most of the base unity components were also created by the engine devs

[summer stump]

There are many magic methods sent to them, yes.