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[swift crag]

you will want to assign a reference in the inspector

[distant robin]

hi can someone help me with this script? in this script i basically have an input field which i can type phone numbers in it (and i can configure the numbers in the inspector) the problem is, no matter what number i type it gives me the invalid number audioclip. i also setted up a debug log to tell me which number i typed and it always appear to be blank. sorry for my bad english. can someone explain me this? thanks in advance

https://gdl.space/icojolugis.cs

[whole sapphire]

how do i do that

[swift crag]

by reading the page you were linked to

[polar acorn]

Why do you have a component named ScriptableObject? You shouldn't name scripts the same as unity built in types that's just going to cause problems

[swift crag]

please just read it

[whole sapphire]

yeah i know

[buoyant knot]

like how on most gameconsoles, the console will prompt you with a whole keyboard UI for the console, and then put the string into the game once tou close

[whole sapphire]

honestly man idk

[swift crag]

ah, so like what you can do on a Steam Deck

[buoyant knot]

switch, xbox, ps4, ps5 have it

[polar acorn]

Before you start typing, the box is blank. Blank is not a valid number.

You'll want to first check and make sure there's something in it before you check if it's valid

[swift crag]

I'm not aware of a plugin. I know how I'd do it, though.

[buoyant knot]

a standard UI for the console to bring up a way to input strings

[swift crag]

you'd give a callback to the keyboard and have it appear, then wait for the callback to be run with the string the user provided

[whole sapphire]

Is it a must to do it with tag

[buoyant knot]

no

[swift crag]

no. please read the page you were linked to.

[sullen perch]

hi, im new to unity and im using visual studio but for some reason my errors arent underlined

[swift crag]

!ide

[eternal falcon]

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or underlining errors, please configure it.

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[real thistle]

Why is that?

[swift crag]

you'll want to follow these instructions

[polar acorn]

https://unity.huh.how/references

[whole sapphire]

yeah im trying to understand it

[distant robin]

thank you i'il try to figure that out

[polar acorn]

You should be able to know immediately at a glance what any line of code does completely removed from any surrounding code.

Var makes it harder to read your code because it requires context to know what type it's supposed to be. Small bits of extra effort to read a line add up over the hundreds or even thousands of hours you spend in a project

[twilit pilot]

the UI component InputField does this

[buoyant knot]

serialize reference is how you set a direct reference to something in the inspector. Singleton is to get access to a specific class of which there is exactly one. GetComponent is to get a specific component on a gameobject once you have a reference to the gameobejct

[real thistle]

If you require to know the type, your other code should be written in a way that's self documenting. Types are not what makes the world goes round, it's the context to those types.

[buoyant knot]

i’ll look into it. ty

[swift crag]

that's a fair point!

I do find it a little "unsatisfying" to read a var line

[polar acorn]

Again, you shouldn't need other code to know what a line does

[swift crag]

var doohickey = GetContraption();

[real thistle]

Yes, that's right. It's the line that matters, not the type.

[languid spire]

because code should be self explanatory and using var obscures that

[swift crag]

obviously I can hover over var to find out that GetContraption returns a Widget

but that's a layer of indirection

[real thistle]

No, it doesn't, if it obscures it, the method or member name is badly written.

[polar acorn]

And when the line has var that's slightly less information than without

[real thistle]

It doesn't, you still have the same information.

[swift crag]

after going through the layer of indirection, yes

[buoyant knot]

it’s just not obvious exactly what type you are working with by just looking at your code. period

[languid spire]

rubbish unless you are going to implement one of the old unsave typess or C conventions

[real thistle]

I'm not sure why badly written or indirected code has anything to do with var? That's just... bad code

[polar acorn]

Except the type, which you can infer, but why spend the time inferring when you could just know

[swift crag]

you are not convincing me of my own stance on var

[real thistle]

But you know that through intellisense?

[swift crag]

which is the indirecetion, yes

[buoyant knot]

but not by looking at your code

[real thistle]

C# is type safe, no need to implement that.

[swift crag]

i have to stick my cursor on the var to find out what it actually means

[real thistle]

Intellisense is not indirection

[real thistle]

Or just use the variable in code?

[languid spire]

yes, at compile time but not when you read it

[buoyant knot]

foreach (var entry in myList) {

What type is entry? You can’t know based on what I wrote

[real thistle]

What?

[polar acorn]

Bad code will happen with or without var. Why not pick the one that makes the bad code less bad and doesn't affect good code at all?

[real thistle]

Why does it matter what type it is to me? I know I have a list. If you call your variable myList, that's a red flag.

[slate gale]

How can I use Quaternion.Lerp() to rotate towards an object's position?

[swift crag]

I would suggest using Quaternion.RotateTowards

[real thistle]

Because var doesn't make it bad?

[swift crag]

that will let you rotate at a constant rate

[buoyant knot]

var makes it worse to read

[polar acorn]

Right but it does make bad code worse and if you can avoid that by just using the real type why wouldn't you?

[swift crag]

transform.rotation = Quaternion.RotateTowards(transform.rotation, goalRotation, Time.deltaTime * 90);

this is a 90 degree per second rotation

[real thistle]

In what sense?

[slate gale]

thx mate

[real thistle]

How does it make it worse?

[slate gale]

and then I can just lerp the '90' towards a lower value i guess

[meager vault]

Bad code is bad code with or without an explicit type.

[buoyant knot]

var makes all code less obvious because you just don’t show the name of the type you are working with IN THE CODE

[swift crag]

do you want the rotation to slow down as you get closer to the target?

[slate gale]

yeah

[real thistle]

I don't need to know the name of the type, I'm working with logic, not types

[languid spire]

so tell me, in that example, what type is entry?

[swift crag]

I'd do something like this, then

[slate gale]

i'm trying to rotate a player camera towards a target

[real thistle]

In what code?

[languid spire]

#💻┃code-beginner message

[polar acorn]

The many examples you've been given where your only response was "well that's just bad code"

Yeah, it is. And sometimes that happens to the best of programmers, so why make it harder to read bad code

[old venture]

In the majority of places the specific sizes of types dont matter. It's the "shape" of a type that determines the logic of the code.

I would agree with using explicit type names in networking or any form of binary serialize adjacent code... but general code, nope

[swift crag]

float closeness = Mathf.InverseLerp(0, 180, Quaternion.Angle(transform.rotation, goalRotation));
float rate = Mathf.Lerp(30, 180, closeness);
transform.rotation = Quaternion.RotateTowards(transform.rotation, goalRotation, rate * Time.deltaTime);

[meager vault]

myList is poorly named:

foreach(var entry in timeEntries)

[polar acorn]

Yes but bad code with an explicit type still gives you more info as to what the code is than bad code with var

[swift crag]

This will rotate at 180 degrees per second at the maximum angle and 30 degrees per second at the minimum angle

[real thistle]

I'm not sure what playing bingo or gotcha with type names is in relation to using var. It obscures nothing, there is no type safety lost here.

You deal with logic, not with the names of types. If using var hinders you from programming, you've generally got other issues in code.

[versed sail]

Let's imagine if you have some code like:

var z = x.FirstOrDefault(y => y.Name == z);

How are you supposed to read this code?
Simply you can't, you have to go back up your previous code and look at what x/y/z are:

IEnumerable<User> x = ...;
string z = ...;

But that's the thing: if your code is so unreadable that you have to commit to memory "x is an IEnumerable<User> and z is a string" just to be able to understand what it does, at that point it's not even about your type anymore.
If you just properly name your variables, it literally does not matter what the types are:

var foundUser = users.FirstOrDefault(user => user.Name == targetName);

Does it matter if users is IEnumerable<User> or User[] or List<User>? Nope, you absolutely can still understand what that piece of code does.

[swift crag]

so what is a timeEntry? a TimeSpan? A float? A string?

[slate gale]

much appreciated 🙂

[old venture]

^ This. The solution to most of the complaints about var are writing better code in the first place. Writing the explicitl type here would not stop me failing your code review

[polar acorn]

Yes but with explicit typing it doesn't matter if it's poorly named you can just know the type

[buoyant knot]

cool. so… is entry a float? an int? a TimeSpan?

[meager vault]

TimeEntry.

[swift crag]

var and implicit generic types can make this stuff really hard to read

[versed sail]

Only if your variables are not properly named.

If you have to commit to memory "x variable is of type Y" just to read the code, you are already on the wrong path.

[distant robin]

ummh i still dont know how to do it bud

[old venture]

It does matter, code clarity matters. I feel if you're relying on explicit typing to cover up bad code, I'm still going to call that out in a code review

If anything, var forces people to write better.

[meager vault]

I don't support accommodating to lazy naming. Write better code.

[polar acorn]

Check the length of the string

[languid spire]

ok, so you're saying the Type should be in the variable name, what do you think this is? C?

[real thistle]

They're not, that's the other extreme.

[swift crag]

we're bringing back Hungarian notation!

[polar acorn]

That's all well and good if you're the only person writing the code.

What about when it's the intern that left the company six months ago and you have to refactor their code

[real thistle]

This is not "use the type or specify the type in the variable name", it's a bit silly to assume that.

[versed sail]

Look at the example I gave above, does it matter if users is IEnumerable<User>/User[]/List<User> or something else? Absolutely does not, you can perfectly read and understand what it does.

[meager vault]

It should've been caught at the PR level.

That's the rest of the team's fault for letting it through.

[languid spire]

it is exactly what they are saying, the type should be inferable from the variable name

[versed sail]

users gives enough information with context, you don't need to name your variable aListOfUsers.

[swift crag]

"just don't write bad code" is a meaningless take

of course you shouldn't write bad code

[buoyant knot]

ok so i should instead write
foreach (var timeEntryAsTimeSpan in myListOfTimeSpanEntriesForMySpring) {
and this is better than
foreach (TimeSpan entry in springTimeEntries) {
that’s what you are saying?

[old venture]

No, because putting the variable name isn't clear there either

std::string m_szFoo is less descriptive than var fooName

[buoyant knot]

this way, I just know my variable’s type, because every variable has the type in its name….

[distant robin]

real

[swift crag]

we follow rules to make things better.

even when the imperfect human beings creating those things make mistakes

[polar acorn]

Yes, the Magical Christmas Land scenario where everything is named perfectly and all code is reviewed var is fine but in an actual pragmatic case where you deal with brain farts, undercaffeination and just plain bad decisions it makes things harder to read and using an explicit type doesn't make good code any worse so why not just use it from the get-go?

[twilit pilot]

List<string> list = /* .. */
var orderedList = list.Select(element =>
    {
        if (!int.TryParse(Regex.Match(element, "\\d+").Value, out int index))
        {
            index = 0;
        }

        return (element, index);
    })
    .OrderBy(pair => pair.index)
    .Select(pair => pair.element)
    .ToList();

what type is orderedList?

[languid spire]

A) that is C++ and B) if it was C it would be s_Foo

[slate gale]

why would you use var if you could just use the datatype of what it's actually gonna be

just seems more complicated imo

[old venture]

@languid spire replace std::string with const char* there and it's c

Exact same thing

[swift crag]

I will use var for short-lived variables.

[meager vault]

It's not meaningless; you stated that bad code made it in the system. That means someone didn't do their job. If you need the type explicitly on the line as you're fixing their mistakes then you don't know how to use the tools at your disposal and should use that as a learning experience for yourself.

[versed sail]

You would just write:

foreach (var time in springTimes)
{
    Debug.Log(time.Subtract(startingTime).TotalMilliseconds);
}

Does it matter if springTimes is IEnumerable<TimeSpan> or TimeSpan[] or List<TimeSpan>? No, that piece of code is very clear what it does without you needing to know anything about the type of any of those variables.

[swift crag]

var target = Quaternion.LookRotation(direction);
transform.rotation = target;

(contrived example, yes)

[real thistle]

Putting more context into a variable name does not mean putting the type in 🙂

[slate gale]

what's the advantage?

[swift crag]

the type of springTimes would not appear anywhere with explicit types, so...

[whole sapphire]

i now only know creating a script is like creating a class

bruh'

[buoyant knot]

my point is to just not use var, and just write TimeSpan, then it is more obvious what you have

[languid spire]

it does if you rely on var to tell you anything meaningful

[real thistle]

I think you’re being very stubbornly unrealistic about how to use var

[summer stump]

A script could be a class, a struct, an enum. A script is just a file
Unity puts in boilerplate for it being a MonoBehaviour class though

[versed sail]

That's the thing, because springTimes already gives you enough information (it's some collection of spring times), that's why the type is irrelevant.

[polar acorn]

It's not like creating a class it literally is creating a class

[buoyant knot]

in that code, if you use var, it is not immediately obvious that the timeEntry is a TimeSpan vs a float vs int

[languid spire]

no, I'm working on a great deal of experience

[versed sail]

If you gave springTimes a terrible name like xs and you have to scroll back up to read that IEnumerable<TimeSpan> xs = ...;, you've already did it wrong.

[buoyant knot]

but you do not know if the entry is a timespan or a float without writing it out. Which gives access to different methods

[real thistle]

an argument of authority is never good to present 🙂

[swift crag]

that's not even the right fallacy

[old venture]

As are plenty of us

[buoyant knot]

you can only really justify var once your type names are very long

[swift crag]

the point that's being missed here is that more information helps.

you can infer the meaning of something with incomplete information, yes, but why not have more information?

[meager vault]

In a pragmatic case, I expect developers to be giving their members meaningful names, that's not magical Christmas land where everything's perfect; that's a standard where I work now, and everywhere else I've worked. To be clear, I'm not against using explicit types, but I'm not hard against using var, and I don't think anyone should have an arbitrary rule against something that's useful when used properly.

Sure, I can harm myself or others if I play with a nail gun, but used properly it saves time.

[swift crag]

especially when you are working with something you're unfamiliar with

[restive tiger]

What about when the type is already evident on that line?

[old venture]

Code Lens and similar in VS helps with the unfamiliar code

[languid spire]

Fine, then feel free to repeat the mistakes I made and learned from many, many years ago, come back in 50 years and we'll have this conversation again

[old venture]

It lets you optionally display the typenames inline

[real thistle]

If you really want to devovle to this level, you ought to head over to the C# server, check my roles, or google my name or go to my GitHub page 🙂

[versed sail]

That does not matter, you have an idea, when your press . all the code you can use show up.
var vs explicit type only matters when you read code, and when you read time.Subtract(...).TotalMilliseconds it doesn't matter what time is and if Subtract is a valid method, because you wouldn't even be allowed to submit this code for review if it doesn't even work.

[buoyant knot]

if I have HashSet<FixedSpawnpointHandler<TilePlacementSingle, CircleCollider2D>>, then yes write var so you can see what you are doing

[swift crag]

also, this holy war has probably outstayed its welcome in #💻┃code-beginner ...

[buoyant knot]

heretics must be purged

[versed sail]

Does it matter if time is a TimeSpan or some random time class you invented yourself that has Subtract method on it? Absolutely does not.
When you see time.Subtract(startingTime).TotalMilliseconds, you don't need to know anything about those types and you can still understand what that piece of code does: it gets the elapsed milliseconds since starting time.

[meager vault]

This is, again, a poorly named example.

foreach (var expansionTime in spring.ExpansionTimes)

Why do I care in the context of this single line if expansionTime is a float or TimeSpan?

[queen adder]

sometimes I like to have it as var, then I can swap out the type really fast without caring, as long as it happens to have the same property name 😄

[languid spire]

Microsoft MVP, don't make me laugh, the very fact that you put that on your profile tells me everything I need to know

[buoyant knot]

because that changes the methods i get access to on the following lines when reading quickly

still not obvious in your “correct” example

[real thistle]

It's ok, you'll get there some day!

[meager vault]

I didn't ask about the following lines. I asked about that line.

[buoyant knot]

declaring a variable type doesn’t normally affect the line you declare it. it affects the following lines where you USE it

[sinful sun]

just make a pr with for (var i=0; i < 10; i++) if you want a lazy friday

[swift crag]

i'm more of a ++i sort of fellow

[swift crag]

don't make me tap the sign

i'm not a huge fan of how several people joined exclusively to argue in a holy war about a keyword

[summer stump]

You... may want to look up SteveSmith haha

[sinful sun]

i'm swiss, when in doubt, we always vote: https://strawpoll.com/PbZqR25eNyN

[swift crag]

this is taking up a huge amount of space in a chat for Unity beginners

[meager vault]

You're right, but the context of the lines you use it on will help you understand what you're dealing with. In the context of a single line, the type doesn't matter.

[ivory bobcat]

Hmmm, int and var are the same lengths. How is one the lazy approach? 🤔

[twilit pilot]

can you change your name please, I have to keep hovering over it with my mouse to see who is really talking

[versed sail]

Use it means you are writing it in an IDE, and pressing . shows you all the things you can use.
var vs explicit type is a matter of readability it does not affect how you write code.

[fickle plume]

If you want to continue discussing this create a thread

[ivory bobcat]

One's definitely more explicit though.

[sinful sun]

some people get triggered when using var with primitive types

[real thistle]

I have no need to, because I like to discuss programming with anyone at the same level of respect

[whole sapphire]

how do i do sth to all object containing a tag

[swift crag]

What are you trying to make your game do?

[whole sapphire]

for example

[swift crag]

This might be the best option, but there also might be a smarter way.

[whole sapphire]

make all maps dissapear

[summer stump]

"You'll get there some day"

[twilit pilot]

I reckon seeing bikeshedding over var is quite insightful for the juniors in a way

[whole sapphire]

unactive

[swift crag]

in a sense, yes

[real thistle]

You get the respect you give 🙂

[swift crag]

this has been amazing. i've written 0 lines of code so far today

[swift crag]

"maps"?

[whole sapphire]

well thats just a name

[ivory bobcat]

Set the object inactive, disable the renderer or whatever

[whole sapphire]

all of them have a tag called 'maps'

[whole sapphire]

the point is there are a lot of them

[gaunt ice]

learn what is loop

[swift crag]

so you can absolutely do this with https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag.html

[whole sapphire]

do i need to loop through them or what

[ivory bobcat]

Do it to each of them

[swift crag]

It will give you an array of GameObject you can iterate over

[ivory bobcat]

What's the actual issue?

[swift crag]

I'm still unsure if this is the best way to do what you want, though.

[whole sapphire]

i think it is

[swift crag]

what is your game doing here?

[ivory bobcat]

How to manage a group of types? How to find a group of types? How to iterate a group of types? What?

[swift crag]

tell me what's happening from the player's point of view.

[whole sapphire]

basically

i want the map to change

my way is like hide all the map and show a new one

[split dragon]

Hi. I have a question about optimization: if scrolling with the mouse wheel and the fact that the camera field is less than 40, how should I set it correctly so that it is better? Or will nothing change from their arrangement?

[swift crag]

okay, so this isn't going to work very well with tags

the second map's objects would all have to be tagged "Map 2" or something

It sounds like you want to just load a different scene.

[whole sapphire]

nah

i think my way will work

[ivory bobcat]

When might be important so that we know what you've got access to. If at any time, you may need a manager else someone needs to pass reference to the collection of "maps" or you'll have to search the hierarchy etc

[swift crag]

I don't understand what you're asking here. This looks pretty reasonable -- except that it ignores the magnitude of the delta

It'll zoom super-fast on a macbook trackpad, which sends a lot of tiny scrolls

[split dragon]

Yes, I wanted to check how it would work first. I'll add Time later.deltaTime

[swift crag]

deltaTime is not appropriate here.

Input.mouseScrollDelta.y is a distance -- how far you've scrolled

If you scroll by a certain amount, the camera should zoom by that amount

[split dragon]

Yes, I just gave an example of time

[gaunt ice]

this is not optimization (at least to me)
you ++ and -- no matter what the magnitude is

[swift crag]

"an example of time"?

[split dragon]

I use a translator

In short, should I write if mouse scrolling first, and if camera restrictions second, or vice versa? Or will nothing change from their location (about what would be better for optimization)?

[swift crag]

Ah, I see what you are asking.

It should not matter at all. However, I think the way you wrote it makes more sense.

[whole sapphire]

eh why are the brackets in red

[swift crag]

You have a syntax error.

Something is wrong with the public void changeMap(... line, most likewly.

[whole sapphire]

theres a semi colon at the b ack tho

[swift crag]

That's incorrect!

[whole sapphire]

i mean the line

[swift crag]

you don't just use semicolons everywhere

A semicolon ends the current statement. It's like the period at the end of a sentence.

[whole sapphire]

yes i know

[swift crag]

The syntax for a method declaration looks like this

[whole sapphire]

i mean the inside code

[swift crag]

Ah, okay

[summer stump]

Also, you have an access modifier inside a method

[swift crag]

just show all of the code please

[whole sapphire]

th is that

[summer stump]

Private inside changemap

[swift crag]

we can't see your screen, so we can't tell you what's wrong

[whole sapphire]

public class flowManagerScript : MonoBehaviour
{
    public GameObject mapListFolder;
    // Start is called before the first frame update
    public void changeMap(string map)
    {
        private Array mapList = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("Maps");
    }
}

[swift crag]

Ah, interesting, the compile error winds up there

[summer stump]

You can't write private/public/etc inside methods

[languid spire]

private here?

private Array mapList = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("Maps");

[swift crag]

so, yes, as Aeth said, access modifiers -- private, public, etc. -- are only used when declaring the members of a class

[whole sapphire]

oh right that fix it

thanks

[swift crag]

Members are things you declare directly inside of the class

[ivory bobcat]

A refactoring could be: If delta y isn't zero fov = clamp (fov - delta y, 5, 40)

[swift crag]

I'm a little surprised the error was on the {. I guess the compiler saw the private and then decided the prior { was bogus?

[swift crag]

Yes, this is a good idea

fov = Mathf.Clamp(fov + Input.mouseScrollDelta.y, 5, 40);

^ it'd look like this

You may need to divide the delta by something

to slow it down

[buoyant knot]

i think everything would be more obvious if we all changed our names to var

you can already open the profile to see what my base username is anyway

[deep robin]

How do i use a power function with the short datatype?

[hexed terrace]

Your VS isn't configured to work with Unity correctly.. sort it out !vs

!vs

[eternal falcon]

Visual Studio guide

If your IDE is not underlining errors in red or autocompleting code,
please configure it using the link below:

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[hexed terrace]

@deep robin ^

[twilit pilot]

I think this conversation has run its course here but the developers over in the C# discord are easily entertained and are still going strong if you'd like to join them 👍

[buoyant knot]

are they arguing right now about var lmao

[languid spire]

we don't argue in C#, we type cast

[deep robin]

Thanks @hexed terrace. I got that sorted out. Anyway, I still have this problem.

[clever mica]

I'm tempted to ask what's the generally take about #region in C# then if I see this

but I fear to wake up another dinosaur

🙃

[ivory bobcat]

The Unity and C# math power functions are explicitly for float/double. You could probably make a utility class that accepts and return your desired type using some logarithmic operation or whatnot.

[ivory bobcat]

What's the issue say?

[deep robin]

Sounds like work. Do you know how to do that? I want the macroUnit to be the microUnit to the power of two.

[swift crag]

why are you using short?

you can just bit-shift if you want powers of two

[deep robin]

@clever mica What do you mean?
@swift crag I don't plan on having the values be any bigger, I should really make them constants.

[swift crag]

short microUnit = 1 << 3;
short macroUnit = 1 << 6;

alternatively, multiply microUnit by itself. C# doesn't offer those math functions for integral types

[languid spire]

should be byte anyway (just being picky)

[split dragon]

This... I'm a little dumb on the mouse wheel. How to do the opposite: Now, if I turn the mouse wheel backwards, the zoom increases, and if I turn forward, it decreases. I want to do it the other way around.

[clever mica]

there was a pre-hiostorical take on var few hours ago and I land on a screen with another fossile vestige of C# which is #region so it's like drama are calling out

I did not except to see that

[ivory bobcat]

Negative instead of positive

[twilit pilot]

I'd say like 90% of the usage of #region I've seen has been actively obnoxious and unnecessary

[split dragon]

"-" to the place of "+"?

[clever mica]

yeah, bit more than 90% but yeah

[swift crag]

it does look pretty overkill in that screenshot

[deep robin]

@twilit pilot How's it obnoxious and unneccasary? I like to #region EVERYTHING.

[languid spire]

in the days when we worked with 15" monospaced monitors or even 800x640 resolution #region was usefull, today? Nah

[mighty axle]

just put it in another file

thats what i do

[swift crag]

I'm very happy with being able to jump to definitions (either locally in the file, or across the whole project)

[mighty axle]

private methods take up too much space so i usually make a new class and then copy the private method and make it public instead

[swift crag]

🤔

[gaunt ice]

partial class

[mighty axle]

no not partial class

[ivory bobcat]

Should be fine for collapsing with thousands of lines of code. Where reading quality can improve with less static but other than that, it's probably not necessary unless for habitual practices/patterns/whatever.

[clever mica]

carefull when critizing choice of year 1995

[swift crag]

i don't think i could handle a CSS holy war in here

[mighty axle]

what do you have against monospaced fonts, mr TeBeCo?

[buoyant knot]

that C# discord is on fire discussing var

[languid spire]

monospace for code is the dogs bollocks, everyone should use it

[clever mica]

nothing

[twilit pilot]

||y||||o||||u|| ||d||||o||||n||||t|| ||s||||e||||e|| ||a|| ||l||||i||||t||||t||||l||||e|| ||b||||i||||t|| ||o||||f|| ||a|| ||p||||r||||o||||b||||l||||e||||m|| ||w||||i||||t||||h|| ||s||||t||||r||||u||||c||||t||||u||||r||||i||||n||||g|| ||y||||o||||u||||r|| ||c||||o||||d||||e|| ||i||||n|| ||t||||h||||i||||s|| ||k||||i||||n||||d|| ||o||||f|| ||w||||a||||y||?

[deep robin]

@ivory bobcat "less static"? I see them as like folders. The more you have more organized everything is.

[clever mica]

yeah that's why i cliecked on the text that is not code

👍

thx

[buoyant knot]

it’s like a scratching off ticket lmao

[swift crag]

dynamic is where it's at

what's the type? i dunno man, i'm just a dog

[clever mica]

na you want DynamicObject for that

dynamic is the cool kid

[ivory bobcat]

Don't incite the individual

[swift crag]

aeugh

Hey that's kind of cool actually

I still have written zero lines of code today

ok time to work

[deep robin]

@twilit pilot No, I actually see zero problem. If you nest the regions seperately from how you nest everything else you can make things quite deep and it only makes everything more manageable.

[clever mica]

cheat code => copy text 😄

[buoyant knot]

omg i’m stoking the var flames right now

it’s glorious

[clever mica]

I would agree if you did not create a single region for each one to 3 line of code in the same code block, there's "new line" for that

[frosty hound]

@buoyant knot So keep it there, we don't need to bring it back here. Thanks.

[buoyant knot]

we already had and concluded our war on var here an hour ago.

[frosty hound]

Apparently not if you keep trying to bring it up

[buoyant knot]

sorry. I’m done here with it

[twilit pilot]

I disagree, and I feel like my message above was a pretty good example of why. You're basically just using functions here except instead of actually using functions you're hiding things in russian dolls and getting none of the IDE definition or naming benefits

[queen adder]

Russian dolls is actually a great example lmao

You can collapse functions anyway in Visual studio so I never really saw the point of # region

[clever mica]

"i will fix that issue later, not now"

put every for of issue inside

code design / code split / god object / bad code / hidden code

[deep robin]

@clever mica I've actually found a scenario to make regions in input braces. Unfortunately that functionality doesn't exist, at least in G.M.L. Hovering your mouse over the region also seems to help. I'm actually only thinking about using Unity just cause Game Maker Studio's regions don't work concsistently when you use them too much. Some regions just don't close as some sort of bug.

[clever mica]

it's like creating a folder named Utils

[queen adder]

Gamemaker

Ban this baka

Jk jk

[frosty hound]

This isn't Unity related anymore. Make a thread if you want to debate regions.

[queen adder]

Sorry

I'll move on

[deep robin]

I'm just talking about my use of regions, it's not about game maker.

[queen adder]

Yeah but this channel is intended for helping ppl not really long code debates

[frosty hound]

Sure, then:

[ivory bobcat]

The file structure is robust and can make things easier to read but maybe a bit less structuring can make things more legible. Not saying you can't or shouldn't do something in a particular way that you feel is good but why you might see others have suggestions related to being pragmatic
https://youtu.be/-AQfQFcXac8?si=UpV90qvq5Q_uNphK

[ionic zephyr]

Hi, could someone help me explaining to me what a tick (in terms of Unity) means exactly?

[buoyant knot]

tbf, I just finished adding a combination of 7 different classes and interfaces to my project, to support moving the starting position of a level.

[queen adder]

Programmers put down the keyboard lmao. That guy has an amazing C++ tutorial on game engines

[rare basin]

"tick"?

[buoyant knot]

a tick is one cycle of a CPU. it is one actual operation

[ivory bobcat]

Depends where you've heard this from (may differ relative to the source) but likely a single frame or some variable period.

[queen adder]

I think he means fps but I could be wrong

[deep robin]

Ok, where would I go to continue this? Not to mention, if someone could tell me how to use a power function with a short that's what I originally came here for. @ivory bobcat, easier to read means more legible. What do you mean? I could continue talking about the benefits of regions but I don't think this's the place for it.

[queen adder]

Frames per second

[ionic zephyr]

I know there are physics ticks, graphic ticks and logic ticks

[queen adder]

I think he means tick as in one frame

[ivory bobcat]

Pretty sure it's already been stated that pow does not accept the integral type. Bit shift operation or logarithmic operation can yield you the correct results (preferably the first).

[rare basin]

better ask in different channel as this is code related channel

[deep robin]

@ivory bobcat, do you know the code to turn my eight into 64 with those cause I didn't even use those in G.M.L.

[ivory bobcat]

Left shift three #💻┃code-beginner message

[polar acorn]

Those aren't really Unity terms. The closest would be the Time Step and Physics Step, which are when Update and FixedUpdate run. A "tick" is just a general term for any cyclical check in any sort of virtual clock

[ionic zephyr]

okay, thanks a lot

[deep robin]

@ivory bobcat, sounds interesting. You said there was a third way? The first was to multiply microUnit by itself.

[polar acorn]

Cast to float, use Mathf.Pow, cast back to short

[stuck palm]

does this save the values or a reference to the transform?

[deep robin]

@polar acorn, how do I cast it back to short?

[polar acorn]

The same way you cast anything else

[deep robin]

I guess I don't know how to cast cause the example I looked up looked like a way I've already tried.

[polar acorn]

Structs are value types

[languid spire]

(TypeIWantToCastTo)

[polar acorn]

Put the type in parenthesis before the value

[stuck palm]

so does it save the value then?

[polar acorn]

That is what value type means

[stuck palm]

cus i remember trying to save a transform in a variable and people said it was a bad idea

[deep robin]

Can I juse get code?

[polar acorn]

Transform is not a struct, which means it is a reference type

[polar acorn]

#💻┃code-beginner message

[stuck palm]

so classes save references and value types store values

interesting thank you

[ivory bobcat]

Logarithmic operation but the Unity and C# math libraries use floating point values so you'll not be able to use your integral type without casting - same result as pow. Here's the relationship between pow and log though https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/exponents-logarithms.html

[deep robin]

Isn't log supposed to be the inverse of pow? Anyway I think I figured out how to cast it.

[rare basin]

not a bad idea at all

depends on what do you want to do with it

[stuck palm]

yeah i mean like it was a bad idea for what i wanted to do

[safe root]

How can I get a postion of a object and convert it to a vector 3? This object does move constantly

[cosmic quail]

isnt sqrt the inverse of pow?

[wintry quarry]

no

sqrt is the same as the pow function

just with an exponent less than 1

sqrt is x ^ (1/2)

log is the inverse of exponentiation

[gaunt ice]

sqrt is inverse of square
log is inverse of pow
a^b=x, log(x)/log(a)=b

[cosmic quail]

1/2 is kinda inverse of 2, thats what i meant

[wintry quarry]

sure. x^2 * x^(1/2) = x

[toxic latch]

So if you have a script that instantiates items from prefabs, how do you change which prefab is 'loaded' in that serialized field at runtime? Like I can drag and drop different prefabs into that field in the inspector, but how would I do so from within a script when I want to instantiate a different item?

[languid spire]

Resources.Load

[polar acorn]

Set the variable to something else

However you want to get that "something else". From Resources, from a different class, from a list

just change which prefab that variable holds

[safe root]

How do I have my Line Render connect to a object? Cause right now it just goes up instead of at the object I click at

[polar acorn]

Set the position of one of the points at the position of the object you want it to connect to

[swift crag]

You would probably just have several variables.

[safe root]

It a grapple so it changes

[swift crag]

or have a list of prefabs

[polar acorn]

So then change the point again

[swift crag]

The point of the field is to give you a reference to a specific prefab. That's all it does.

[safe root]

Well I thought I did that with the lastRaycasthit

[open moss]

is there a way to have serialized private attributes be non editable in the inspector?
Kinda like how you can't change the script attribute in a component

[swift crag]

Not baked-in. I've definitely seen [ReadOnly] attributes before.

You'd have to write a custom property drawer.

[timber tide]

it's actually 2 lines of code in a custom attribute if you wanna make one

[wintry quarry]

Use NaughtyAttributes: https://dbrizov.github.io/na-docs/attributes/meta_attributes/read_only.html

or write your own

[timber tide]

but yeah naughtyattributes will do it for you

[sacred egret]

why does it say that rb isns announced even though it is https://paste.mod.gg/tvibenoebneh/0

[wintry quarry]

it says it hasn't been assigned, not announced

presumably, a different copy of the script is causing the error

[polar acorn]

If the error says it's not assigned, then it's not assigned. Your screenshot shows that at least one PointCounter has an rb assigned, but that does not mean all of them do.

[sacred egret]

yeah it seems i accidentaly put the script on the Ui too and didnt asign anything

[west sonnet]

Hey everyone. Need some help. I'm trying to make it so that when the player shoots, the gun will push the player backwards a bit. I've got it kinda working, it's just that the force ends abruptly, rather than naturally tapering off. Can anyone help me figure out how to achieve this please?

https://wtools.io/code/print/bSQL

I've also code my script here if anyone wants to take a look

[wintry quarry]

It ends abruptly because you have this in FixedUpdate:

rb.velocity = new Vector2(Horizontal * speed, rb.velocity.y);```

you are completely overwriting the existing velocity to your desired velocity here

[west sonnet]

SHould I put that in Update()?

[wintry quarry]

so the force will only get to affect the velocity for a single FixedUpdate frame

no

Update won't help

you are missing the point

[polar acorn]

Is there like a contest to find the worst paste sites or what

[west sonnet]

It was the first one I found on Google 😦

I think I get it. The force is only being applied for a single FixedUpdate Frame. Then it gets overwritten

[ivory bobcat]

You should add to it rather than assign velocity a fixed value if you're not wanting the previous value to be loss

[west sonnet]

but how could I stop it from getting overwritten until the force is at 0?

[ivory bobcat]

velocity += right * horizontal * speed

Right refers to the direction

[ivory bobcat]

Agreed. I was too terrified to click the link 😅

[polar acorn]

It literally tried to print the code. I had to cancel my printer before it finished spooling up

[west sonnet]

Sorry 😬

[swift crag]

lmfao

[ivory bobcat]

Proper syntax would be something like.. (I'm on mobile - coding can be error prone)cs rb.velocity += rb.transform.right * Horizontal * speed; @west sonnet

[swift crag]

here you go buddy! [prints]

[west sonnet]

Why can't I use forceDir in my FixedUpdate()? It was created in Update. Both Update and FixedUpdate just have void, no public or private

forceDir is my direction, right?

[ivory bobcat]

It doesn't exist in the other function

[languid spire]

forceDir is a local varaible to the Update method

[west sonnet]

how can I get it to be used outside of Update?

[languid spire]

don't make it local

[ivory bobcat]

It's declared here

[west sonnet]

Would I have to declared it at the top of my script?

It worked :0

[ivory bobcat]

Or declare/evaluate it again in Fixed Update since it isn't anything specific to Update

[languid spire]

why do you not know this?

[west sonnet]

I'm not sure what you mean?

[west sonnet]

Because I'm new. I'm learning

[languid spire]

well time to learn some c# basics then

[west sonnet]

I wrote rb.velocity += forceDir * Horizontal * speed; in FixedUpdate() but now I can't move my player and if I shoot, the player won't stop moving backwards

[ivory bobcat]

Why put it in fixed update? And why use force direction? The code I provided suggested using transform direction right.

[languid spire]

AI Generated code or pure copy/paste?

[ivory bobcat]

Pretty sure the code was related to your horizontal movement from input

[safe root]

Why ain't my LineRender going where it should. When I aim at a object and click to grapple to it. The grapple seems to go above where it should be.

[polar acorn]

!code

[eternal falcon]

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[ivory bobcat]

Context would be necessary (code and image of incorrect offset)

[west sonnet]

Because the direction of the gun is to be facing the cursor position

[safe root]

https://gdl.space/ugotoruqeb.cs

[west sonnet]

Also, Transform.Right is Vector3 but I'm using Vector2

[ivory bobcat]

Try using the transform direction right for movement relative to your character.

[ivory bobcat]

Cast to vector 2 if necessary

(Vector2)rb.transform.right

[ivory bobcat]

I'm guessing player is in world space and the line renderer is in screen space

[safe root]

A screen space?

[polar acorn]

Show the inspector of your line renderer

[polar acorn]

The whole inspector of it please

[safe root]

I found it and you were right. I didn't know it wasn't using world space

Didn't know it was a option that need to be put on

[west sonnet]

This is what I have atm. Is this correct? Because my player still won't stop after shooting and I can't control the player movement

[ivory bobcat]

Just have what you had before at #💻┃code-beginner message with the correct direction though (for the velocity assignment in Fixed Update)

[ivory bobcat]

That if statement is your shooting mechanic and shouldn't be relative to your character direction

[primal hamlet]

hey guys, did someone used Netcode for multiplayer ?

[blazing prairie]

how do I make a reorderable vertical scroll view in unity so that user can reoder the items easily and which works with android to

[west sonnet]

It's relative to the direction that the players gun is facing, so that it pushes the player back, like recoil would

[polar acorn]

Probably at some point yeah

[primal hamlet]

i have "deny acess" bcz of this :

[ivory bobcat]

Just undo what you've done. The issue is that your velocity assignment in Fixed Update is overwriting the velocity completely. Don't change the other stuff.

[polar acorn]

This doesn't seem code related

[primal hamlet]

oh mb

[ivory bobcat]

Direction was incorrect in fixed update for movement. I did not click the link but according to blue, your original velocity assignment was #💻┃code-beginner message @west sonnet

But should have instead been something like #💻┃code-beginner message

[west sonnet]

I've added to Update(), but it's the same. I can move but the recoil force abruptly ends

Wait, I've commented out that line in FixedUpdate() rb.velocity = new Vector2(Horizontal * speed, rb.velocity.y);

[ivory bobcat]

Stop touching line 59. Undo it.

The velocity assignment = was the issue

Not your shooting kicking back.

[wanton hearth]

Hi, have a question about some unexpected transform positioning behavior that's really confusing me.

I'm making a meter/timeline:

• I have a StartMarker at localPos (0, 0, 0) and EndMarker localPos (1, 0, 0)
• Also have a CursorParent object at localPos (0, 0. 0) that is a **sibling **of StartMarker and EndMarker.
• If I move the CursorParent to (1, 0, 0), all the cursors line up exactly with EndMarker
• The unexpected bit: When I move an individual cursor (child of CursorParent), **its local x pos is 1.6 before it lines up with EndMarker. **
• All the cursors are at localPos (0, 0, 0), lining up exactly with CursorParent, and the pivot point is the same, so
  what would cause this discrepency? The rotations on all mentioned objects are (0, 0, 0), so I don't think it's that?

[ivory bobcat]

Linda 71 will not do what you are wanting it to do. Comment out that line. Line 59 only occurs when you're shooting (but it's supposed to be your movement mechanic that replaces line 71)
You're getting everything mixed up. The issue isn't your shooting mechanic, it's your movement mechanic that's faulty - overwrites the velocity with the assignment operator (the equal operator = ).

[carmine elbow]

Hey Ho! I have 2 types of Projectiles, one that shoots at a direction and one that shoots towards a position and acts once it gets there, from there on out many more types come out (For example a sniper as normal projectile and a rocket as targeted projectile) I have thought about using abstract classes, but the only thing the projectiles have in common are that they come from an owner and do an action once interacted with. Maybe interfaces work better with this but I am just unsure, would appreciate it if any of you could help me on this!

[polar acorn]

Do any of these objects have a scale other than 1,1,1

[wanton hearth]

Yes

[polar acorn]

That will affect the coordinate system of any of the children which means their local positions are not going to perfectly align to the position grid of world space

[west sonnet]

Do you mean the movement that creates the recoil force movement or the player control movement?

[ivory bobcat]

Line 71 is the problem

[wanton hearth]

Thank you, that fixed it. Had no idea scale would affect that!

[west sonnet]

How can I fix it?

[ivory bobcat]

Comment that line out

You cannot use that line of code with what you're wanting to do.

[west sonnet]

I have but my player still can't move and the recoil force never disappears

[ivory bobcat]

Move line 59 to line 72

[modest dust]

Scaling the object also scales the "inner" space of that object. So for a parent at 0,0,0 with scale of 2,2,2 a child object placed locally on 1,1,1 will be at world pos 2,2,2

[west sonnet]

Okay but if I shoot now, my player never stops moving back

[ivory bobcat]

This implies that Horizontal is your input value

[ivory bobcat]

That's what you've wanted to a certain degree right?

To not overwrite velocity

[west sonnet]

I want the force to slowly go down to 0, so the player stops moving backwards naturally

Yeah

[safe root]

How do I move the LineRender to where I want to be? It keeps spawning at the render instead of the object I set for it to spawn

[polar acorn]

One "unit" is the size of the parent object. This means an object at local position 1,0,0 is always one "parent distance" to the right

[west sonnet]

Like, if you shot a big gun, you wouldn't keep moving back forever

[polar acorn]

You can assume "world" is an object with an identity transform (0,0,0 position, 0,0,0 euler angles, and 1,1,1 scale)

[ivory bobcat]

Well, there's no friction in the air. You'll not stop or slow down unless something slows you down. You can slowly damp your speed if you want the object to eventually stop without additional forces.

And the movement isn't enough to stop the shot force.

[safe root]

So how do I have it move within this World?

[ivory bobcat]

A ball in outer space or in the air somewhat would.

[polar acorn]

By changing the position of something

All movement results in changes to world position

[west sonnet]

Ooh, I see

[polar acorn]

even if you do the move through local position, the end result is the world position is different

[west sonnet]

Increasing the Linear Drag on my players Rigidbody would work, right?

[ivory bobcat]

Are you able to move with your current script?

[west sonnet]

Yeah

[safe root]

So how do i move the world position so the Line Render can move with my character and spawn and stretch to a object he clicks on?

[polar acorn]

Change the position of something rather than the localPosition

position is world space

[safe root]

How would I do that? How do I change the World instead of the local?

[polar acorn]

By changing position instead of localPosition as I said

[west sonnet]

Thank you!

[safe root]

On the LineRender?

[polar acorn]

A line renderer only has one kind of position, it is either always local or always world depending on the checkbox in the inspector

[safe root]

Ok and I have only used Postion in my code so unless we are talking about in Unity. I'm confused

[polar acorn]

If your code only ever modifies position of a transform, that is world space

Modifying the positions of a Line Renderer depends on whether that line renderer is set to use local or world space

[safe root]

It is using world space yet it doesn't move

[polar acorn]

Are you actually giving it a position that is different from what it currently is at

[safe root]

Yes, I made it so when it spawns. through Instantiate it should spawn on a object.

By making it equal it's postion

[polar acorn]

Maybe you should actually post !code

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[safe root]

https://gdl.space/walajusuta.cs

[polar acorn]

So what position are you changing

[safe root]

The Rope but making it equal (On 57) Playerrope position. (Btw, I just moved it down to GrappleRope as I just figured it was on the wrong place. It didn't fix the issue sadly

[polar acorn]

Line 57 stores the current position of whatever object PlayerRope is in the Spawnrope variable

[safe root]

Mhm and I use it on Instantate on line 77 or 78 to make it move to said spot

[polar acorn]

Which looks like it's used to determine the position to spawn a copy of the Rope object at

So Rope will always be at the position of PlayerRope when it spawns

[safe root]

Correct

But it doesn't do that

[polar acorn]

Yes, it does.

The clone of Rope is at the whatever position PlayerRope currently is whenever it is spawned

[safe root]

Yes, but it also spawns in the same spot. It doesn't move to the play

Hold on

[polar acorn]

Take a look at the positions of those objects in the inspector. Spawn one, move PlayerRope, and then spawn another. Are they at different positions

[rich ember]

How do i upload code again?

[safe root]

They don't move

Well the arrow does

But not the render

[polar acorn]

Show the inspectors of those Rope clones

The transforms of two of them

[west sonnet]

!code

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[polar acorn]

#💻┃code-beginner message

Why did you use the bot and then copy-paste the text from the bot into another message

[polar acorn]

Pretty sure those aren't the same numbers

[safe root]

Yes, but look at the render

[rich ember]

https://paste.ofcode.org/35G367RjC25mhDniAvdVkzP

[safe root]

They are the same

[polar acorn]

Well, obviously. You never change that

Nothing in your code even touches these clones beyond creating them

[rich ember]

ok so here is my code and RB. My character starts spinning as if his rotation had velocity after colliding with something. What do I need to change?

[safe root]

How do iI change that?

[polar acorn]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/LineRenderer.SetPosition.html

[ivory bobcat]

Well, the rotations are frozen so maybe something else is spinning (parent, different body part, procedurally, etc)

You can verify by looking at the inspector values for rotation

[safe root]

I got a better understanding but how do I set it's Index to where my player will be at?

[polar acorn]

I don't know what you mean by setting its index

The index is which point you want to change

[warm anvil]

anyone here familiar with Unity's rule tile pretty well?

[safe root]

The Index is the postion it's set to but I can't set a vector3 only a int

[polar acorn]

Because index is not a vector3

It's an int

[ivory bobcat]

The index is the point

[polar acorn]

And it's not a position

It's an index. That's why it's called index

[safe root]

I know.... How do I set iyt so it will follow my player

[ivory bobcat]

A line has multiple points. The index would refer to which point - first, second, third etc.

[polar acorn]

Set one of the positions to the player's position

[safe root]

How do I do that. Cause I can only put numbers. How do I set it to my player?

[polar acorn]

Set one of the positions of the line renderer to the position of the player

[ivory bobcat]

Which part of the function are you having issues with?

What have you tried?

If you're getting the signature wrong, you'll need to look at the docs.

[rich ember]

@ivory bobcat man I am trying to test what you said but I can't for the life of me recreate it now... I am not sure if maybe it just loaded improperly or what lol. thanks for the help anyway

[safe root]

How do I do that if all I can do is put in a number?

[ivory bobcat]

You can do more than just put a single number

[polar acorn]

Did you look at the link at all

[ivory bobcat]

Did you read the docs?

[safe root]

I know I can put in multiple number but how do those number make it spawn on my character?

[polar acorn]

You change one of the positions to the position of the character

[ivory bobcat]

You'd set one of those points to your character's position.

[polar acorn]

The function I linked you is how you change one of the points in your line renderer

set that point to the position of your player

[queen adder]

public static T TryDequeue<T>(this Queue<T> from, System.Func<T> desperateReturn) where T : Component{
        while(from.Count > 0)
        {
            T ret = from.Dequeue();
            if(ret != null)
            {
                ret.gameObject.open();
                return ret;
            }
        }
        return desperateReturn();
    }
```lol, apparently, I cant use this generic because GameObject's gameObject is not the same thing as Component's gameObject

[ivory bobcat]

This implies you're able to get your characters position

[queen adder]

is there a gameObject interface between the 2 class?... yea nah

[ivory bobcat]

What's the error?

[safe root]

I got it now, sorry but I just wasn't understanding what you guys meant. But I get it now

[queen adder]

I cant use it to trydequeue a Queue<GameObject>

(hope you still rememeber how this method try to work)

[ivory bobcat]

I'm still not sure why you cannot use it. Is there a compilation error, unwanted behavior or undefined behavior?

[paper rover]

Do rigidbodies update through framerate or deltatime?

[polar acorn]

no

[paper rover]

Im running a game where i need specific timestamps through deltatime and not all of it is adding up

[queen adder]

solution is to make a duplicate TryDequeue

[ivory bobcat]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ExecutionOrder.html
It interpolates for loss frames (play catch-up) and can possibly not occur in some frames.

[polar acorn]

So it looks like something you're doing is trying to use something of type Component, but you're giving it a GameObject

[queen adder]

that gets a gameobject queue and returns gameobject, but having these two because of not having interface just kinda suck

[ivory bobcat]

What's the squiggly line say?

[polar acorn]

Pretty sure that's what's hovered

[ivory bobcat]

Ah, small screen moment.

[warm anvil]

you all can see my chat, yes?

[polar acorn]

TryDequeue expects T to be a Component. GameObjects are not Components

[queen adder]

yea, GO is a new class under Object.. appraently, there's no way that component's gamObject property is related to GO's gameobject

even though they are meant to get the same thing

[polar acorn]

I have no idea what you mean by this

The issue is with TryDequeue

[ivory bobcat]

Reference components and not Game Objects

[polar acorn]

it wants something of type Component

but you are not giving it one

[queen adder]

this is the solution to make it accept go's as well

which si nasty haviong to need a separate method for it special

[ivory bobcat]

Transform or almost anything other than GameObject should work.

[polar acorn]

Or just change the restriction on T to not require Component

UnityEngine.Object maybe?

[sage mirage]

Hey, guys! I have a question. I want on my game to play my particle effect when my player jumps with a space button. Can I somehow make that to happen?

[polar acorn]

yes

[queen adder]

Object doesnt have gameObject property (which is needed in the method)

[sage mirage]

I was thinking of getting the transform of my player and instantiate the particle but I am not sure if that's correct.

[queen adder]

actually this is quite doable, havent imagined using trasnform lol

[swift crag]

oh yeah, I've had a similar problem before

[polar acorn]

Sure why not

[queen adder]

i was trying to use MonoBehaviour lol

[swift crag]

(and the solution was, indeed, duplication)

[queen adder]

unity please... just one interface wouldnt hurt that much

🥺

[polar acorn]

Neither does GameObject it looks like
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/GameObject.html

At least I don't see it on the docs

[vernal minnow]

How can I make time display in a game? I was trying time.datetime and even divided by 1000 just shot it up really quickly

[ivory bobcat]

What kind of time? Elapsed time since launched?

[queen adder]

that's weird (docs not having it), prettysure you should be able to do cs gameObject.gameObject.gameObject.gameObject.gameObject.gameObject.gameObject.gameObject

[vernal minnow]

Yes

[polar acorn]

Time.time

[vernal minnow]

Was originally trying for a scoreboard that goes up each second

[polar acorn]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Time-time.html

[vernal minnow]

Does that not just give the current time?

[swift crag]

read the documentation

[polar acorn]

You could click on the link I sent that tells you exactly what that value is

[vernal minnow]

Oh, mb, I didn't realize that was for me

Thanks

[swift crag]

This value is undefined during Awake messages and starts after all of these messages are finished.

Huh, that's a new one

[ivory bobcat]

If you're needing time between two instances and not the entire life of the current process, cache the time (current at that moment) and subtract from the current time when you're needing the score to acquire the elapsed time between the two points.cs score = Time.time - startTime;

[swift crag]

i presume that's during the initial Awake messages on the first scene load

[green island]

i have a Interface for attacks and an scriptible object for characters and i want to save there an script for the attack to later then add the script to the player
I tried cs public IAttack attack; but i cant set it

[ivory bobcat]

And what's an IAttack? (Obviously an interface but there's no concrete type)

[ivory bobcat]

Use a concrete class for the inspector referencing or you could try the Serialized Reference attribute

Don't recall if it'll work or not

[swift crag]

[SerializeReference] won't provide an inspector UI for you automatically

[eternal needle]

SerializeReference I think you need custom inspector stuff to set it

[ivory bobcat]

Ah bummer

[swift crag]

https://openupm.com/packages/net.tnrd.serializableinterface/ is a pretty nice option

Although I've only used it a little -- I haven't made a decent-sized game that depends on it yet

So, you know, salt, grains, etc.

[timber tide]

i kinda ditched serializableInterfaces

[vernal minnow]

Yeah time.time keeps freezing my unity 😂

I feel like I need to limit it in some way

[ivory bobcat]

Show your implementation

[timber tide]

it would be nice if they were supported but trying to go against Unity for serialization purposes always comes back to bite me

[vernal minnow]

Like /10?

[green island]

could you send the code i dont know what you mean

public interface IAttack
{
    void RightClick();

    void LeftClick(); 
}``` and this is IAttack

[swift crag]

Show your code.

the entire script, please. !code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[eternal needle]

I barely use interfaces because I cant be bothered with the inspector part, and half the time I dont even write another script that actually uses the interface

[ivory bobcat]

Like if your while loop has dependency on it but because it's used improperly, the evaluated value doesn't ever change.

[timber tide]

yeah, sometimes I feel like I'm working more on making the editor happy than actually working on my projects

interfaces would make a lot of my code cleaner though

[eternal needle]

Some code has to actually implement this

[ivory bobcat]

It won't work. Unity inspector doesn't work with interfaces without custom inspectors

[vernal minnow]

https://hastebin.com/share/udonefijac.csharp

[swift crag]

this runs a loop until scorevalue is greater than 10

nothing else can happen until this loop terminates

scorevalue never changes inside of the loop

[vernal minnow]

Had to slash it out bc it was freezing unity

[swift crag]

unity freezes.

[vernal minnow]

It goes to 10 immediately

[ivory bobcat]

That would be an infinite loop

[vernal minnow]

Well 10.004

[swift crag]

No, it gets set to Time.time in the loop

Time doesn't pass while your code is running.

Your code must finish before Unity can complete the current frame and start the next frame.

[vernal minnow]

When I load into the game, it's always on 10

When it works

Or freezes when it doesn't

[native flicker]

I am trying to make some walkable buttons and number 1 and 2 work perfectly (data.cost[0 - 1])
And i don't know why it isnn't working since it should work fine
so i get this error:```
IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Button.OnTriggerEnter (UnityEngine.Collider other) (at Assets/scripts/button.cs:61)

and this is my code
```C#
            if (other.name == "m3")
            {
                if (data.money >= data.cost[2]) //error is on this line
                {
                    data.multi += data.earn[2];
                    data.money -= data.cost[2];
                }
            }```
This is my data script

public class Data
{
public BigDouble money;
public BigDouble[] cost;
public BigDouble[] earn;
public BigDouble multi;
public Data(){
money = 0;
cost = new BigDouble[] {10, 25, 75, 250, 750, 2500, 50000, 250000, 1000000, 15000000};
earn = new BigDouble[] {1, 2, 5, 12, 40, 125, 1500, 6500, 35000, 400000};
multi = 0;
}
}```

[swift crag]

I don't know what you're talking about. Do you mean it starts at 10?

as in, scorevalue is set to have a value of 10 in the inspector from the start?

because then, yes, the loop will not run at all, and your game won't freeze

(as long as the score value is over 10, that is)

[native flicker]

btw bigdouble isn't the problem, same error with any other var

[vernal minnow]

No, in the update, it changes the scorevalue to 10 before I finish loading into the game

It does it way too quickly

Even /1000 didn't slow it

[swift crag]

That is not what your code is doing at all.

[swift crag]

As long as that while loop's condition is true, the body of the loop will run over and over

[ivory bobcat]

Start:
    start = Time.time
Update:
    if (Time.time - start > 10)
        start = Time.time//setup for the next interval
        //other stuff
        ...```

[swift crag]

Nothing else can happen until the loop exits.

But the loop will never exit if Time.time is <= 10

[swift crag]

This is almost certainly what you want.

Each frame, you use the current time to compute a value

[vernal minnow]

Ah, so that explains why it jumps in less than a 10000th of a second lol

[vernal minnow]

And that explains the freezing

[queen adder]

btw, do you still remember if you could maybe have solved your problem by using Transform instead of GameObject?

[vernal minnow]

Is there a way to not show the decimals or round to the hundredth slot?

[swift crag]

string formatting can do that for you

$"Score: {scoreValue:N2}"

this would round to two decimal places

$ makes a string into an interpolated string

[vernal minnow]

And thank, this seems to work, was the while loop causing the issue?

[ivory bobcat]

Is there a reason why circle prefab is a Game Object and not a Component like Transform?

[swift crag]

you can insert expressions with { braces } and then add format info after a colon

[queen adder]

not really

[swift crag]

$"{123.456f:N0}" would render as "123"

[queen adder]

it could be anything (I was even desperate enuff to use MB)

[vernal minnow]

What's the N0 mean?

[swift crag]

N means it's a general number

[queen adder]

number format 0 decimal

[swift crag]

0 means 0 decimal places

someone else will have to grab the page with all the format options

i'm on my tableeet

[vernal minnow]

Hmn, imma have to play around with that to get used to it

[queen adder]

N0 specificall format numbers to 1,000,000

[vernal minnow]

Pretty cool feature though

[queen adder]

I love N0 lol, fav format haha

[vernal minnow]

Is there a way to show the time in xx:xx:xx format?

[ivory bobcat]

Update already occurs every frame so there's not much point to repeat that process in Update that single frame. Other than that, the process was kept busy there indefinitely and never returned control to the handler for the Unity Window and whatnot causing the OS behavior of the application to not respond - extra details.

[vernal minnow]

Oh, so I was trying to call the seconds every frame

[bright escarp]

Hey
i have a code
and It is meant to load 1000 files
and i want that during the code loads all those files
it also make a loading bar
rather than the whole game freezing because the code is not finished

[timber tide]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.datetime?view=net-8.0
Bring out your googlefoo

[deep robin]

Regions can't be overused, change my mind.

[ivory bobcat]

You were only ever on that single frame running that while loop endlessly

Never truly completing the update function

[buoyant knot]

#regions are good, but you definitely don’t want to overuse them lmao

[native flicker]

could smb help me out?

[vernal minnow]

Oh, I remember something like this from regular c#, it allowed for dates and times and other stuff, can't believe I forgot about that 🤦‍♂️

[deep robin]

@buoyant knot, you can't overuse them.

I suppose you could use them incorrectly but I don't think there's overusing them if you do. I'd love both sides to elaborate.

[ivory bobcat]

Should probably take that to the !csd as this server is more about Unity where the channel focuses on beginner coding in Unity

[eternal falcon]

Join the C# Discord server, a programming server aimed at coders discussing everything related to C# (CSharp) and .NET. https://discord.com/invite/csharp

[deep robin]

Ok, I mean it could've still been relevant to Unity. The thread's closed.

[tacit estuary]

The Three Commandments of OnTriggerEnter:

1. Thou Shalt have a 3D Collider on each object
2. Thou Shalt tick isTrigger on at least one of them
3. Thou Shalt have a 3D Rigidbody on at least one of them

Double check that you have the right components on the player and the ammo item

[desert elm]

hm- how can I only make a unit render for a player only if a certain condition is met?

[paper rover]

Question, is interpolate or extrapolate more accurate?

[timber tide]

enable the GO

[desert elm]

GO?

[timber tide]

gameobject

[desert elm]

ah okay

so disable Gameobject unless a bool is true

[timber tide]

right, can do it by component too only if you just care about the render component

otherwise just flip the gameobject on and off

[desert elm]

oh right yeah I only want to disable the sprite render

[native flicker]

how to check if a certain key has been pressed, for example escape key (Esc)

[rocky canyon]

Input. https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Input.html

GetKeyDown activates on the frame u press the key on

[queen adder]

are there an event that catches if any gameObjectis destroyed?

[rocky canyon]

OnDestroy()

[polar acorn]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/MonoBehaviour.OnDestroy.html

[queen adder]

there's no listener only?

[native flicker]

Thank you, i also checked google but got diff results each time

[rocky canyon]

public class ExampleClass : MonoBehaviour
{
    void Update()
    {
        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.Space))
        {
            Debug.Log("space key was pressed");
        }
    }
}```no problem

[polar acorn]

You can call whatever you want in there

[ivory bobcat]

Escape is also the hot key for unfocusing in the Unity Editor so you may get some unwanted behavior in the Editor.

[rocky canyon]

https://forum.unity.com/threads/solved-can-unitys-ondestroy-be-subscribed-to.286691/

you could hack together a system for listening for OnDestroy() i guess if that fits ur needs

[rocky canyon]

facts, even if i need an Esc keypress i use an alternative until I build

just to avoid any irritations this is bound to cause lol

[buoyant knot]

@deep robin #region MyFunction #region Docstring for my function ///<summary>Docstring</summary> #endregion #region Declare function private void MyFunction(int x) { #region Declare variables List<int> allValues = new(); #endregion #region Loop for (int i = 0; #region Loop break logic i < 10; #endregion #region Increment index ++i){ #endregion #region inner loop myList.Add(i); #endregion } #endregion #region Assign list this.myList = myList; #endregion } #endregion #endregion

[wild cargo]

There's an option to disable usage of Editor shortcuts while focused in the game window, so that shouldn't be a problem if that toggle is ticked

[queen adder]

yea, could be like fun if there's just a single object that catches events too, rather than just a sender version

[buoyant knot]

i’m really proud of enclosing the for loop declaration with 4 separate #region statements

[rocky canyon]

wouldnt figure that'd be very optimized

[queen adder]

actually that might be right

particle systems go BRrtrtrtatata

[rocky canyon]

can you collapse nested regions?

[buoyant knot]

yes… as long as you are willing to manually collapse/expand when you reopen one

IDE remembers which #regions are collapsed, even if nested in a collapsed one

[rocky canyon]

lol, no Ctrl+ shortcut eh

[queen adder]

CTRL+A, then DLT collapses all

into oblivion

nested regions are nasty to begin with

[rocky canyon]

removed the Joystick.. all touch controls now 🙂

[buoyant knot]

👍

[rocky canyon]

except pinch to zoom

its just psuedo implemented atm

[buoyant knot]

now just needs to be more responsive, i think

[rocky canyon]

you think? i added some lerps and slerps for smoothing

it was super responsive

it would get into a rotational whirlwind lol

[buoyant knot]

it just looked like the first one didn’t respond to mouse

[rocky canyon]

oh no it was just a raycast ripple effect spawning thing

the 2nd one is the movement

[buoyant knot]

oh then that is fine

[rocky canyon]

then the dot is just wandering

we'll see im setting up Unity Remote here in a bit

[buoyant knot]

main controls I expect:

1. Double tap to translate,
2. Drag to pan around a point
3. Pinch to zoom/unzoom

[rocky canyon]

might feel totally different on the phone

[buoyant knot]

you might also want two finger drag to translate

[rocky canyon]

and for rotations i expect

[buoyant knot]

not sure how that would feel tbh, but it might be worth testing

[rocky canyon]

two fingers can pan, zoom and rotate

all at the same time..

thats what i commonly see

Yesterday I was looking for Inspiration for the type of game i want to make.. and i found Door Kickers (2)

looks easy, probably super complicated tho

AI movement is always my stall point

plus in this game the spline follows the navmeshagents path... as u draw

cant even imagine where to begin with a mechanic like that

[buoyant knot]

i would make a game idea before you implement anything

[rocky canyon]

ya, absolutely..

[buoyant knot]

the only way i can imagine the camera being a core gameplay mechanic is with a 3D scavenger hunt thing

which might be a unique idea

eg a 3D collectathon platformer without the platforming

[west sonnet]

Trying to make a light appear on my gun for a second when the player shoots, but my light is not being enabled when left clicking? Anyone know why? Is it an issue with 2D lights?

[polar acorn]

Can you show the inspectors for this object and also GunLight

[polar acorn]

Your Light2D is already enabled

[west sonnet]

This script it attached to the particle system which I'm using for bullets

[polar acorn]

and the object it's on is not

[west sonnet]

Omg, you're right

I feel so dumb lol

Thanks

[rocky canyon]

Camera is a side character... (i hope)

mechanic might be toggling targetted enemies.

like an auto-shooter.. but you have to swap targets according to ur setup/surroundings

but its a organic developing situation

[true pasture]

is this bad to run 20 times per frame? I know I shouldn't worry about optimisation very much at the beginning. But I was worried this might be egregious.

i condensed lines 24 and 25

[languid spire]

yes, that is bad

[slender nymph]

2 GetComponent calls per object per frame is definitely not ideal. Your list should be List<CommandButton> rather than List<GameObject> and you won't need to do a GetComponent call at all

[true pasture]

ok yeah, I wasnt gonna optimise it unless it was bad. but definitely did that. Is it bad now?

[short hazel]

Or at least use TryGetComponent<T>(out T) to reduce it to one call

[cosmic dagger]

a GameObject is not a command. that part is confusing already. the list should be of CommandButton type . . .

[polar acorn]

Significantly better but I wonder what's the point of the loop if totalFill is only going to contain the last fillAmount in the list

[true pasture]

oh oops i misplaced totalfill

[polar acorn]

Also why you're incrementing i each time instead of just using myCommandsList.Count at the end

[true pasture]

oh didnt know about that

im being dumb

i did know about that just didnt connect the dots

[swift sedge]

why var i instead of int i?

[slender nymph]

here we go again

[true pasture]

no reason was just the first draft of it. is one better?

[slender nymph]

no

[polar acorn]

If totalFill is only used inside of Update why is it a field?

[true pasture]

good point

[wanton hearth]

What would cause the initialization of a C# class to result in 'null' when it inherits from MonoBehaviour, but not when it's a plain C# object?

[slender nymph]

are you doing something silly like calling the constructor for a MonoBehaviour?

[wanton hearth]

It's just MyClass class = new MyClass()

[ivory bobcat]

Show your implementation

[ivory bobcat]

Yeah, that would be calling the constructor

[slender nymph]

yeah that's the problem. you don't manually call the constructor for a MonoBehaviour and you should be getting a warning in your console that tells you that

[ivory bobcat]

You would use Instantiate instead

[slender nymph]

or AddComponent if you just want to add the component to an existing gameobject

[wanton hearth]

Ahh right. I recently moved from Monobehaviours to C# objects for these custom classes, and then changed it back to Monobehaviour so I could test something on a gameobject

I wish you could somehow configure C# classes in editor without them having to be monobehaviours. Although I'm sure there's some valid reason that's not possible, lol

[ivory bobcat]

If you make them serializable, you can. Have a mono behavior script reference the class type and you'll be able to modify it's fields in the inspector for that mono behavior.

[slender nymph]

you can provided the classes are serializable and a serialized field of some monobehaviour

[wanton hearth]

Oh wow, look at that! Thanks both

[gusty hazel]

hi

im adding a feature where if an enemy is in range, it stops moving and attacks

how would i go about doing this

(making it stop)

void Update () {
        step = speed * Time.deltaTime;
        if (Vector3.Distance(transform.position, player.position) < 5 ){
            transform.position = Vector3.MoveTowards(transform.position , player.position ,step);
        }
``` this is how i currently handle movement towards player

[ivory bobcat]

Distance formula, collider with circle/sphere check, physics callback etc

[verbal dome]

State machines are useful, you could have a "chasing" state where the enemy just moves to the player

Then change to a "ranged attack" state when you are close enough

[gusty hazel]

but if i keep this in update it would keep moving even when in range for the attack, wouldnt it

[desert elm]

I do not see what this error could be referring too in this line-

[short hazel]

explosionHits was null

Did you initialize that variable to a new List<Collider2D>() somewhere?

[desert elm]

I just have-

[wintry quarry]

The list is null.

[desert elm]

oh its supposed to colliders isnt it

[short hazel]

It works because Collider2D derives from Component, so you can add stuff to it

But it's best to use the most concrete type available, if you're going to only store colliders, then yes it should be a list of Collider2D

[ionic zephyr]

How can I make my Vector 3 accesible for all scripts but mantaining its privacy?

[desert elm]

that
looks like a lot of errors I do not understand

[short hazel]

I'd make a property that exposes the field, read-only:

// Keep the field private.
private Vector3 _vec;

// Short for 'public Vector3 Vec { get { return _vec; } }'
public Vector3 Vec => _vec;

[ionic zephyr]

Thanks a lot bro

[short hazel]

Then all your other scripts can access Vec and will receive a copy

[ionic zephyr]

thanks a lot again

but if that vector changes its value through time, does it have the same alterations in the scripts I use it on?

[short hazel]

Yes, the property evaluates the value of the field and returns it each time it's accessed

[ionic zephyr]

thanks bro

[buoyant knot]

this is very useful because you don't want random scripts to just alter your variables whenever the hell they want

whenever you declare a public variable, imagine a public toilet. very good analogy

[ionic zephyr]

Thats the thing, yeah

but is it written just like that? with "=>"

[buoyant knot]

and if you want to expose a List or Dictionary as readonly, you can always do:

public IReadOnlyList<int> MyList => myList;```

[desert elm]

what could this mean?

[buoyant knot]

=> is just short for making a lambda expression, which is just like a 1 line function

[short hazel]

The first one happens when you modify a list while foreaching over it (very illegal).
The second one happens when you destroyed an object, but still try to do things with it in a variable (very illegal too).
The last two are editor errors, and may have caused the first two, or vice-versa.

Select (don't double-click) the first error and it'll show more details.

[slender nymph]

in this example it is not a lambda expression, it's just expression body syntax

[wanton hearth]

I'm always confused about the emphasis on setting things to private. If variables are being accessed by other classes in unwanted ways, isn't that your own fault for writing bugs?

[slender nymph]

defensive programming, prevent bugs by just not allowing them in the first place

[buoyant knot]

true, but it feels similar to how you do syntax for lambda

bool MyFunc(int x) => x > 0;
is the same as
bool MyFunc(int x) { return x > 0; }

[slender nymph]

it's the same operator, yeah. but it's explicity not a lambda expression which is an anonymous method

[buoyant knot]

fair

[short hazel]

Yep look at the stack trace

The first two lines are internal code of C#, but the third points to your own code (CodingRaycastTest, line 97)

[buoyant knot]

if I need to modify list as I enumerate through it, I iterate backwards

for (int i = myList.Count - 1; i > -1; i++) {
myList.RemoveAt(i);
}

[desert elm]

ah so its here

[short hazel]

Two lines above the one you highlighted

[ionic zephyr]

what

it doesnt let me use it

[short hazel]

You remove one element from explosionHits, while iterating over it with foreach

[buoyant knot]

SPR is right. won't work

[slender nymph]

doesn't let you use what

[ionic zephyr]

the vector Im trying to make public

[buoyant knot]

@desert elm like this

[slender nymph]

be more specific about what you are trying to do and what is actually happening (and show relevant code)

[short hazel]

If you want to remove elements, what you can do is use a reverse for loop. In your editor type forr and [TAB]. It'll auto-complete a whole reverse for loop automagically

[desert elm]

yeah- a bit weird, as I copied the code from another script which worked fine

[ionic zephyr]

this is from other script

[buoyant knot]

don't do this lmao

you're just copying the list with the ToList method

[short hazel]

in explosionHits.ToList() creates a new list, which avoids the error

[desert elm]

yep . . and I for some reason removed it when I copied it

[slender nymph]

you cannot use a non static value in a field intializer. you could make that a readonly property that just returns _characterMovement.PlayerVelocity instead

[buoyant knot]

we're literally telling you how to do it right, and you are refusing to do it

.ToList() is wrong to use here

[north kiln]

I also hope you know that GetComponentInParent<Transform>() is the same as doing .transform

[ionic zephyr]

what?

[short hazel]

Also you forgot to name your field!

private Vector3 = _characterMovement...
               ^ NAME expected here!

[slender nymph]

oh yeah that too

[desert elm]

found out later from a friend after writing the code, I know now

[slender nymph]

you can't just say "what". i'm not about to explain that entire message, if you don't understand some part of it then you need to actually ask clarifying questions.
But i'm also not about to explain properties to you again so 🤷‍♂️

[desert elm]

wait why?

[short hazel]

Just in case, insisting on the fact that this does not get the parent's Transform. GetComponentInParent will search yourself (the object this script is attached to) before going up.

So you get your own Transform

[desert elm]

yeah, I am aware
thats why I didn't change it

[buoyant knot]

I'm trying to figure out how to use the internal keyword more.
So let's say I have 420 scripts/classes in main assembly, and a group of 69 scripts/classes in that need special access to each other, and the 420-69 scripts need access to these 69 scripts, and visa versa. Is there any way to break up the 69 scripts into a different assembly? Because that would be cyclic dependency, right?

[slender nymph]

can't have cyclical dependencies, yeah. so if you have two classes that need to reference each other they'd have to be in the same assembly

but that may also be an indication that your code is too tightly coupled

[buoyant knot]

so internal keyword is useless, and C# has no way to allow me to set access modifiers like this?

[slender nymph]

internal is basically the same as public but only within the same assembly. other assemblies would not be able to access that

[buoyant knot]

well, I have a singleton LevelBuilder where other scripts need to send requests to in order to change the level. But I want my LevelBuilder to have a whole set of classes where they just talk to each other mostly to actually do the building

[swift crag]

i'm not sure what you mean here

internal does exactly what it says it does: restricts visibility to the same assembly

[buoyant knot]

internal keyword requires you to actually have an assembly that is totally decoupled (in one way or another) from the rest to function

[swift crag]

yes

it sounds like you're looking for something like c++'s friend

there is no equivalent in C#