🔀┃art-asset-workflow

[glad jewel]

by render face, you probably mean cull-off or double sided rendering. The default particle shader has both options (cutout & double sided)

[wooden fern]

No results. I should also mention I'm on URP

[glad jewel]

ok, for urp i don't know, but you can probably just create your own shader using shader graph that has both options ticked (culling off and transparency as alphatest/cutout). i haven't played with urp myself though to know what options shadergraph exposes

[glad jewel]

It seems the default URP shaders do expose all the needed options though https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.universal@7.1/manual/particles-lit-shader.html

In this case alphatest/cutout seems to be called alpha clipping

[wooden fern]

Default URP unlit shader with alpha clipping enabled and rendering both faces is what I was using when I took that screenshot

[glad jewel]

looks like clipping is then not calculated the same as alphatest in built-in pipeline (maybe just using clip() on regular transparency?) have you tried using the 'opaque' blend mode with alpha clipping? maybe that works

[misty lantern]

Hard to tell precisely, but usually this era of games have lights drawn into textures (like spotlights there) or vertex lighting, whether dynamic or baked

Unity has the old-style vertex lighting but it's a little bit hidden

[misty lantern]

Your problem is caused by "transparency sorting"
In unity, you need to use an opaque texture with alpha clipping
In blender you choose between alpha "clip" and "blend", but in unity this is different because transparent materials can also be clipped, so using clipping doesn't mean it isn't transparent necessarily

[wooden fern]

@misty lantern @glad jewel Thank you guys for your help! I found a shader that fixed all my issues, without having to mess with shader graph and with minimal setup. Legacy Shaders/Transparent/Cutout/Soft Edge Unlit

[misty lantern]

I think the default URP shaders give you opaque cutout options, without having to use any legacy shaders or SG

[wooden fern]

They had alpha clip, but it didn't work

[inner flax]

whats the name of the google service that has a ton of free models

[outer halo]

Google Poly, which has been shut down.

[inner flax]

is there an alternative

[feral cloud]

Blender

Let's be real here, you won't find many places where you can download whatever you want for free.
It's best to learn how to make 3D assets with a 3D app.

And it doesn't take much time to learn how to create low poly assets, worst case scenario

[misty lantern]

OpenGameArt is always worth checking out

[misty lantern]

It certainly took years off my life, in more ways than one
Honestly you'd be better off paying someone to make you some models than endlessly scavenging for parts that don't fit each other anyway

[feral cloud]

Or just make it

3d modeling isnt particularly complicated if you are making stuff for yourself

Substance painter givrs you a lot of power and resources

[marsh summit]

It's worth learning the skill anyway.

And you can control the quality / polycount etc. Once you have a team with modelers on it, it gets a bit more complex. But even then it is handy being able to do a quality set of models.

If you don't want to do the Substance Painter thing there is Armor Paint as well (free) to start with

If not that, then buy a low poly asset pack off unity. something with a ton of models. And just make it fit whatever the heck oyu are trying to build for a prototype

[ruby dune]

Maybe sketchfab, but "free" models are not the majority. You do find somd neat ones occasionally though (as some said, if youre doing low poly or simpler environment art, worth learning some 3D yourself, blender is very accessible now)

[umbral verge]

Hello, is there a way to open all the empty hierarchy at once please?

[lapis jolt]

https://free3d.com/

many free models are there but all arent free

[feral cloud]

Seriously, it's freaking easy and blazing fast to make low poly to mid poly models

To just use free models online is very lazy.

And sure, you could find very nice free assets online. But chances are the art direction will be a complete incoherent mess.

And if you work smart you can step it up a bit a go for high poly + bake

To get a high poly all you need to do is add a few extra support loops here and there

It takes a few minutes to do UV maps. You even save time if you mirror parts of the mesh.

And it takes a few minutes, if you already have the Substances in your library, to paint a 3D prop with Substance Painter.

[misty lantern]

The tools are awful to learn to use though, especially blender

Making shapes is only 10% of the process
90% is trying to get the right shapes out from the program

[feral cloud]

I felt tat way about Blender for a long time.
But I sat down and took the time to learn how to use it and now, I don't think that it's as bad as you say it is.

[misty lantern]

Keyword is "long time"
I know its quirks now too, after some years

[feral cloud]

In fact, I compiled a list of most essentials 3d modeling operations that someone needs to know in Blender to get things done.

Blender can be learned in a few minutes.

[misty lantern]

Hahaha

I mean it's possible you're a savant of some sort

Or you had a background in 3D arts before learning blender

Or both!

[feral cloud]

I definitely had prior experience with 3D modeling before.
But I learned most of MODO in 2 days.
And Blender, because of its awkwardness took me several weeks.
However, by compiling what I learned and know about 3D modeling. Someone else would strongly benefit from this information to slightly speed up their learning process.
https://expandskillset.com/gamedev-blender-3Dmodeling-basics.html

All the hot keys, the operations, etc. It's all there

It's a roadmap.

[misty lantern]

Well, knowing the fundamentals of 3D goes a loong way

[feral cloud]

It's all the same

3ds max, modo, maya, blender

just different keys

[misty lantern]

A beginner isn't going to know any of it

[feral cloud]

Which is why I use gifs to explain 3d modeling operations

[misty lantern]

You already know what operations you want to use because the workflow is ingrained into your brain

[feral cloud]

Because 3D modeling is very natural and logical

face, extrude, inset, extend

[misty lantern]

This discussion is equivalent to telling an artist to "just code your game yourself, C# is easy" by someone who already knows game programming and learned C# after C++

[feral cloud]

lol...

You do know that some of us do it all, right?

[misty lantern]

Sure
Like we do

Doesn't matter what you do, there's always the risk you lose any perspective about how the things you take for granted make no sense to a beginner

[feral cloud]

I agree. But everyone needs to get started somewhere. And everyone makes it look 300% more complicated than it really is

Artist, at some point in their career, would even strongly benefit from learning how to code to build their own custom scripts or tools.

Disciplines must be combined at some point to create an even stronger discipline

[misty lantern]

None of this is relevant to how tone deaf it is to tell a programmer to "just make your own models, it's easy"

Anyone can do it, if they invest the monumental time and effort
How much experience have you had to gather to get to the point where modeling was "easy"?

[feral cloud]

It really doesn't take much time to learn 3D modeling and only 3d modeling.
And that's coming from someone who went to college twice in different disciplines and saw over 120 people go through this process.
And I saw their evolution over time.

The really difficult aspects of 3d art is design, Sub-D modeling and advanced 3d sculpting

Low poly modeling is fairly simple.

[misty lantern]

Do you mean formal 3D education?

[feral cloud]

Yes. Trained by industry vets.

[misty lantern]

Well that's quite the significant advantage compared to the average person don't you think

[feral cloud]

In school programs designed by game companies

Yes and no.

You can learn everything online these days

I just wanted the paper

[misty lantern]

I'm surprised this isn't convincing you my point about being out of touch

[feral cloud]

I knew how to model before I enrolled

Self-taught

However, I didn't know about the existence of zbrush

Or texturing

And Substance came out when we were still using the old workflow

Spec/Glossiness

And photoshop

Substance Designer and Painter made texturing easy

If you have a mentor or a proper Wiki anyone can learn 3d modeling blazing fast

You need to understand the workflow, asset creation

Blender -> Substance Painter

Fairly simple and straight forward learning

[misty lantern]

You're making less sense as we go on, who's going to have a mentor?

Docs are useful if you already know what you're looking for

[feral cloud]

BLENDER
High poly -> Low Poly -> Uving

Substance painter
Baking -> texturing

You are on Discord

Mentors everywhere

You like some artists on Youtube or else? Text them

[misty lantern]

Ah, you don't mean like a real mentorship

[feral cloud]

We learn from others. You don't need a second mom at home to do that

Just ask around

[misty lantern]

There's 9 beginners to each 1 who knows the tools
And most of them want to be paid for their efforts, as they should
Mentorships are extensive work

[feral cloud]

I did my homework.
Went to college
Then graduated.
Then I surrounded myself with artists I admired.
Asked them questions. Improved. Showed them my progress.
They were pleased. They didn't mind helping me more.
Eventually, I was the one helping them out.

That's the ladder

🪜

[misty lantern]

I am glad for you
When you tell people to just learn a new profession, you should be earnest about the years of effort it took

It isn't a practical option for everyone

[feral cloud]

Man. No only I know how much efforts it took me to learn it all.
But I know how much time we (there are many others) can save others by being here online on Discord, on forums, Youtube, blogs, etc.

It has never been easier to learn 3d

[misty lantern]

It may be easier than before but there's still a significant friction in the up-start
Anyone can pick up a pencil and draw characters and landscapes even if they may not be "great"
Without a course on modeling fundamentals and blender workflow the average person isn't going to get anything out of it besides some disconnected primitives

[feral cloud]

I can't agree. Again, I been to college several times and saw people who had zero experience in 3d modeling be able to create decent 3d map layouts in a day

More like in less than 2 hours

[misty lantern]

You were watching people who were taught by the industry professionals
And/or who had an unknown amount of grind behind them

It's not comparable at all

[feral cloud]

They were taught to push buttons

Like any tutorial

Trust me. There was nothing special in those courses

Just learn the app

The only useful thing that we learned from industry vets were the workflow and terminology

[misty lantern]

Personalized education is always better than canned tutorials, there's no chance that you go off learning the wrong things and if you get stuck there's immediately someone putting you back on track

[feral cloud]

But like I said.
I learned 3d modeling by myself

Before going to college

[misty lantern]

In a day?

And it was "easy"?

[feral cloud]

Yes it was easy.

[misty lantern]

Congratulations you are probably a savant

[feral cloud]

And of course it took me more time to learn, because in my days there were no tutorials

Hell, we didnt even have a content browser in our game engines

Try to make a map without seeing what props XXX long name is

[misty lantern]

Wait, did it take a day or longer?

[feral cloud]

Dude the point is simple

Learn 3D 20 years ago
Learn 3D now isnt the same

Learn 3D from people like me now...
You learn in a day

Like I said. it has never been easier to learn 3d

[misty lantern]

It's not possible to learn all the necessary knowledge that fast
There's so much you have to know, countless different specific workflows for meshes of different purpose

[feral cloud]

And Im telling you. It has been done before.

[misty lantern]

If you're looking for tutorials on your own, you won't even know if it'll be useful for video game asset creation

3/5 tutorials for the right thing teach it the wrong way

You see an issue but you won't know what to search for because you don't know what it's called

[feral cloud]

Well the first thing people need to learn is how to use the internet efficiently.
There are tons of learning resources online that can teach people how to do Game Art

In 2014, I had written a 70 pages long guide on how to use MODO for game asset creation.
It's been used by people from multiple countries. Teachers adopted it.

[misty lantern]

You obviously have no idea what kind of a swamp it is to learn 3D without your industry vets

[feral cloud]

You don't need industry vets

Could be any knowledgeable person on Discord

[misty lantern]

And I had it easy, having been in modding scenes for years before learning 3D in earnest so I was already familiar with searching, getting technical and a lot ofthe terminology

When you get into it, there's virtually an infinite amount of information out there, and you have no idea if any of it is relevant or not

[feral cloud]

Hey what is the workflow for games?

BLENDER

1. High poly model
2. Low poly
3. UVing

And then...

SUBSTANCE PAINTER

1. Baking
2. Texturing

How hard was this? Probably saved someone days of research in one post.

Polycount.com has a large enough Wiki for 3d artists.

You want to learn fast?
Ask around where the learning resources and communities are

To jump blindly into an app is the worst possible approach to learning

You are talking about how hard it is to learn 3D.
yet if someone finds my website, it's all handed on a golden plate

No excuse whatsoever

[misty lantern]

Well that's kind of what you imply by insinuating that modeling is easy

You're not willing to admit even a little bit that learning this profession is a big undertaking?

[feral cloud]

Create cube, select face, extrude
Was that hard?

Let's do more

[misty lantern]

Not only are you out of touch, you're willingly and proudly out of touch

[outer halo]

You've officially met, who I assume was Skilljitsu. They're like this. Just move on and don't try to argue.

[feral cloud]

Yes. That's me. Just rebranded, because I do appreciate useful feedback.

@misty lantern
Look. I agree with you. It would probably take a few days for someone to learn the fundamentals of 3D modeling.
But if you look around, you will also notice how fast people learn compared to how it was 5 years ago. 10 years ago. 15 years ago and beyond.
We have data to show this.

[misty lantern]

Sorry, I've had very practical problems because of educators who absolutely refuse to relate to beginners or their challenges

[feral cloud]

What I'm saying is that if you find someone actually qualified to teach someone else, you can slightly speed up the learning process.
And this is just a natural thing. And a no brainer.

And I agree with you.

I personally dislike the traditional education system which is why I decided to build a different educational system by creating my own website where people can learn freely without spending thousands of dollars which is what I had to do.

So you say vets helped us learn 3d?

no, they didnt

They just gave us a roadmap that was already available online

It was already available on websites such as polycount.com

Their Wiki

It's been there for decades now.

Thankfully, this Discord exists.

A a few others

New comers can come here and ask how to do 3D and they get answers fast

And links to useful learning resources

[tribal ravine]

Hey where do you guys look for skyboxes?

[frigid island]

anyone know why rigify is making praying mantis arms?

metarig (right) seems fine

[misty lantern]

https://polyhaven.com/hdris this has been great

[tribal ravine]

Ah Thanks

Also is there anyway you can assign materials to specific faces in unity?

[misty lantern]

Probuilder might have something like that, but otherwise you'll have to use a 3D editor

[errant plover]

This has been my experience. I am shocked with how quickly people I train, can pick-up Blender and run with it. It's probably some sort of 100 monkey side effect or some connected global consciousness thing. Whatever it is, times are changing.

[feral cloud]

Indeed

Additionally, there is a concept that is taught here in Montreal.
Every new comer who goes to our trainings (game dev) and choose a specific branch (level design or 3d modeling or 3d animation) also need to spend the first Session (3 months) learning the basics of all 3 branches.

So everyone needs to learn a bit of level design, a bit of 3d modeling and a bit of 3d animation

And then they have a full year to focus on their specialty.

And that makes it easier for them, later to communicate with each other.
Because they understand a bit better the worlds they live in

And what their challenges might be

[tribal ravine]

wdym by 3D editor?

i wish i could just make the materials in blender and then automatically import them into unity with the whole object

[misty lantern]

You can assign materials to faces in blender, for example

[tribal ravine]

Yeah but how would i import those materials in unity

[misty lantern]

They should import as normal? The slots for materials should appear the same way in unity as they do in blender

Similarly, anyway

[misty lantern]

https://youtu.be/yNqj66ndwXc There is a way to do this, but it seems experimental, at best

[tribal ravine]

Whats the best way to do it tho?

like the proper way that everyone uses

[misty lantern]

If you don't use Substance tools, then most people bake the all the procedural textures and roughness/specular etc maps into textures, then import those textures into unity and recreate the material in unity with those texture maps

But that's not related to material slots, if those are still missing for you

[sinful night]

Hey, when I import 3d models form blender to unity, they appear transparent

any idea why this is?

[errant plover]

This question is asked 10 times a day. Recalculate the normals to outside.

[outer halo]

We probably should make a pinned tutorial about that. 🤔

[sinful night]

I see, sorry to be a bother

[errant plover]

Not to say you are annoying. I mean its a very common issue. Easy fix.

[feral cloud]

They are right.

• Find your fav app to do 3d modeling
• Find your fav app to do UVing
• Find your fav app to do baking
• Find your fav app to texture 3d assets
• Make sure your smoothing groups work correctly and were saved
• Make sure you manually triangulated your mesh before exporting to Unity otherwise the auto triangulation could do weird stuff

[misty lantern]

This is the #🔀┃art-asset-workflow channel, we don't know how to troubleshoot the unity hub

[minor horizon]

yeah, i just don't know what channel to put it in. i do all my stuff in 3-d so...

[misty lantern]

#💻┃unity-talk

[minor horizon]

ok, thank you

[tropic zenith]

asset store

[pastel steppe]

Hdri haven

[modest rapids]

When clicking on a Prefab in my scene, Unity's default behavior is to select the LOD child-prefab instead of the parent prefab.

Is there a reason the parent isn't selected? Is there a way to change this from the default behavior?

This little bit of behavior adds a lot of clicks to level design, and I really can't think of an example where we'd ever want to select a child LOD group instead of the parent prefab.

For a specific example, I have a candle holder in my scene and would like to click it to move it around the room, but I always have to click once for the LOD group, then the parent again in the Hierarchy.

[modest rapids]

not to mention how easy it is to move the LOD group on accident, very frustrating behavior, I have to be doing something wrong here?

[sullen plank]

@modest rapids You can choose which object is selected when clicking on a group https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ScenePicking.html

[modest rapids]

tyvm!

[rapid echo]

Made a new scene for a garden project in Blender. Using geometry nodes for foliage. Wip. 🌻
.
https://twitter.com/FarrukhAbdur/status/1423529049952067586?s=20

Farrukh Abdur (@FarrukhAbdur)

New progress on the hydrangea flower garden scene. 🌸🌿

#b3d #blender3d #gamedev #blender #indiedev https://t.co/gLMmqsOvmG

Twitter · Aug 6, 2021, 6:19 AM

[karmic ivy]

:card_box: Documentation

Pro-Tools
Probuilder
Polybrush
Progrids
General
FBX Exporter
Alembic
Universal Scene Description
Git
MeshSync
Delighting Tool

:books: Resources

Videos

Probuilder Tips & Tricks

Blogs

Advanced Editor scripting hacks to save you time

Roadmap

Site

:mag: Troubleshooting

Inverted Normals

Model appears inverted / see-through / transparent

[maiden charm]

Guys how to make model in unity look more like it was in blender?

[outer halo]

You use the built in unlit shader and apply a texture to your model, or you create a custom shader that lets you control the colour gradient.

[maiden charm]

ok, i found some shader i like..
but when i was experimenting with "sharp-shadow" asset from unity store and deleted it
now after i run game it gives me this error:

Asset Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition/Runtime/RenderPipelineResources/Mesh/UnityBall_Base_shadows.asset has no meta file, but it's in an immutable folder. The asset will be ignored.

how to fix it?

[eager mist]

How many triangles should tree have not to slow down the game?

[balmy bough]

Pow, you are dead

[balmy bough]

i gave him a Bruin

[tribal ravine]

hey guys what resolution Textures should i be downloading?

im doing VR dev so im guessing less?

[tribal ravine]

Hey do you guys have any advice on how i could create like a concept art for an enviroment in a scene?

[empty marlin]

does anyone know what might be causing this shading issue? i got this asset off the asset store (or from somewhere, i didn't create it originally). i tried importing it to blender, but it was an ascii FBX file, and blender only can deal with binary fbx. so i converted it via autodesk's tool, and was able to open it. when i export the fbx from blender and place it into unity though, with or without changes to the mesh, the lighting gets really strange (although it does align to the mesh so it's not a totally random pattern). does anyone know why or have any ideas/clues on how to fix this lighting? 🤔
Normal asset on the left, blender-exported binary fbx asset on right

[misty lantern]

One thing I'd try is to recalculate normals upon import into unity

[sullen plank]

It looks to me as z fighting as well, feels like automation created faces in a new format but didn't cleaned up old ones.

Could try welding overlapping points and then running faces normalization. Might need manual fixes as well though

[empty marlin]

awesome, will try this!! thanks!

[empty marlin]

sweet, thanks for the tip!! will try that out

[frigid island]

is there a method for 'combining' the materials on any given model into 'one' texture? i have some models in my game that im using for prototyping and they have their individual low-poly faces all with their own material and its killllling my unity editor every time i select the objects

[faint mortar]

I'm not judging u, cuz I have absolutely no modeling skill in blender, but to be honest, the face kinda creepy 😂

It's still pretty good

[spark vigil]

hey for models when using riggify addon in blender what to do for smooth animation when exporting to unity?

any particular setup to follow?

[tribal ravine]

yeah it looks unnatural af lol

[neat field]

@sullen plank scam up there

[sullen plank]

!ban 570106889606791186 Scam.

[lilac edge]

Alabaster1#8709 was banned

[sinful tendon]

Is there a way to unjoin objects in blender

[misty lantern]

"Separate" operation with shortcut P

[sinful tendon]

thx

[sinful tendon]

that did nothing

[misty lantern]

Are you sure you're in edit mode

[sinful tendon]

oh yeah thx

thx thx

How can I lower the face amount its kinda big lmao

12k bad for unity

12k faces

[sinful tendon]

How do I draw pupils, I tried everything

in blender

[sinful tendon]

why isn't it letting me painttt

[harsh dagger]

Probably not properly UV mapped

You can easily paint the pupils in a texture

I would recommend painting it in a proper image editing software like photoshop or gimp. If you must paint it directly on the model then substance painter is the go to software for these type of things.

[thorn crescent]

Hello. for making a level, should I do modular for unity or create a whole level in maya and then import

[sinful tendon]

now what is that

[sinful tendon]

Use probuilder and progrids from unity

[harsh dagger]

That depends a lot on the type of game you are making, though.

[thorn crescent]

Is it better to make the whole level in maya and then export it to unity

Or, make modular assets, export it to unity and then design a level

[tranquil crystal]

hey y'all

anyone into procedural mesh?

before i attempt and waste my time on this, im wondering if mesh.SetVertices(Native#) is slower than mesh.SetVertexBuffer?

i mean, im going to try the SetVertexBuffer method. SetVertices seems to take up the most time

[autumn python]

@eager mist what does the texture look like, and what is the model you're trying to apply it to

[eager mist]

Well I downloaded Unity to make architecture, and the texture was meant for a simple wall in one of my architecture designs. I basically just want the texture to be on a square

thisn is the texture

[autumn python]

Ah, I would recommend ProBuilder for that

ProBuilder's UVs automatically tile as you increase the size of your object

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtzIXCKr8Wo

[eager mist]

Ohhhh. I thought it was a whole other software 😂 What's the pricing for the app?

[autumn python]

ProBuilder is free!

[eager mist]

Oh, where do I get it?

[autumn python]

Watch the video I posted 😄

[eager mist]

Ok! 😄

I cant find progrids

[gleaming scroll]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/videep_environment-design-game-activity-6830195571257700353-KyFH

Looking for artists to collaborate with!

[eager mist]

How do I find Progrids? Is it still downloadable?

[eager mist]

Nevermind I found out :d

[placid zealot]

is it just embedded into Unity now? Or did u buy from store?

[wraith hare]

guys i made an arm model using makehuman but i can't move some bones using "G"
like i want to be able to link the hand to the gun
and move the gun to move the whole arm
just like in sfm

[misty lantern]

I don't know how makehuman works but sounds like you're describing an IK rig

[meager pike]

I am horrible with Blender and I'm not interested in learning it, I am focused on implementing programming tools. However, this current project requires two fences. I've made them by following this tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udiL9VllksQ

Yet, I realized this is using like 200k verts, and a ton of tris. Is there a way to optimize this?

i go from 130k tris, to 3k tris with the fences turned off.

[eager mist]

@meager pike usually, fences like this are done by using simple quads with the holes having 0 alpha in the texture. Then you use a shader with alpha clip transparency and done.

[wraith hare]

yeah

[eager mist]

So you need to get a tiling chain link texture and uv unwrap a quad onto it.

[meager pike]

Damn, that's completely beyond me, but that does make sense. I'll try looking into it. Thank you.

[eager mist]

It's a chain link fence, right?

[meager pike]

Yes just like in picture

Even slight variation is fine

[meager pike]

It's mobile, so quality is fairly low.

Yeah

[eager mist]

Like that?

[meager pike]

Like a ski fence

[eager mist]

Yeah.

[meager pike]

but yeaa

[eager mist]

Always done with a texture.

[meager pike]

ski*

hm

Ok seems common, i'll look into it then.

Thanks mate.

[misty lantern]

Ski fences are too thin to practically make them with geometry

[meager pike]

@misty lantern Yeah Bea's comment here totally makes sense in theory to me. Just unsure how to go about it atm, but will research.

What I have just isn't going to work for 60fps mobile.

[misty lantern]

here's the idea

[meager pike]

Damn never used node stuff like this in Blender before. My experience pretty much is just deleting the default cube.

[misty lantern]

Just one face with a fence alpha mask texture, with alpha clipping to control the transparency so there won't even be overdraw

[meager pike]

Trying to see if i can just find a chain link texture and slap that on a cube or something

[misty lantern]

Nodes don't carry over to unity so they're not hugely important in your case

But the concept is the same over there

[meager pike]

So am I understand that I should just be able to find a proper texture, and then put it on a cube? Scale it down to be thin etc?

[misty lantern]

Sure

something like this as an alpha mask
but not copyrighted like this one

Ski fences seem to be hexagonal or square shaped grids

[meager pike]

Yeah, not too worried about specifics, should be low enough quality to not even tell, but good point.

I'm testing right now with:

But eh

Trying to read into alpha mask, because if i could "hide" the cube, it would be perfect.

[misty lantern]

Once you have an alpha mask working right, the material needs to be "opaque" with "alpha clipping" enabled

[meager pike]

Ok, reading into alpha mask. Not a familiar term for me.

Just about perfect, just need to hide the black:

Which is the cube *

[misty lantern]

That's what alpha mask + clip does

[meager pike]

Got it with:

But now, I need the length of this times like 100

[misty lantern]

That's where tiling settings of the material come in
Or UV mapping of the model

[meager pike]

Thank you. You're right, I think tiling. Let me see..

Totally forgot about tiling, I think this should work. I'll post with performance update momentarily. Thanks for the input @misty lantern

@misty lantern It's not bad for quick set up, but I can't seem to increase the visual distance.

The fence goes all the way down, but you can't tell until you move down the hill more and then it continually appears.

Figured out how to solve that but now the fence is so faded.. hmm

[misty lantern]

This is a side effect of mip mapping

I'm not entirely sure what the fix would be

[meager pike]

Ok. I mean I suppose this works for a little mobile game. I value 60fps over aesthetics for this project.

[misty lantern]

How'd you solve the disappearing issue

[meager pike]

Well it's just very faint but it it

It's no longer completely missing like the first pic

[misty lantern]

You could try changing mip map filtering from Box to Kaiser

and try the Preserve Coverage and Alpha Cutoff Value options

They seem to be specifically for the situation that alpha masked textures get softened out of existence

[meager pike]

Not seeing preserve coverage but kaiser doesnt seem to make a difference. Here's all the settings in case I've done something blatantly wrong:

[misty lantern]

this here
it's cut off by the box

Surface type transparent works, but opaque with alpha clipping performs better
And should cause less visual glitches

[meager pike]

ok messing with it..

With opaque that's when i get issues

of it cutting out

Looks better, but then it's a block further

[meager pike]

Or it disappears like here

[misty lantern]

Like, randomly? Or depending on some settings?

It's unlikely that it's going to look perfect, due to limitations how mipmapping works

[verbal sparrow]

hey does anyone wanna be the head 3D Modeller on a dev team?

do u wanna start a dev team?

[errant plover]

How many heads would I have to model?

[meager pike]

It's due to a setting.

[meager pike]

Yeah, i think i'll have to deal with it being sort of faint.

[turbid kayak]

Hi, when swapping out the mesh of a skinned mesh renderer, my model is offset like this. The scale is fine, its just the position. It should snap the to assigned root bone if it is exported correctly right?

[sly raft]

enemy model wip

[zinc pilot]

made in blender for fun

dont mind the noise

except for the ships textures everything else is mine

[eager mist]

how can i import this

i tried importing but its just a cube

[glacial vector]

Blender materials do not carry across to Unity. You'll have to remake the shader

[eager mist]

in unity?

[glacial vector]

Yes

[misty lantern]

Baking the procedural texture into an image texture works too

[lapis jolt]

make that an image texture

[dapper spade]

I'm fairly new to substance painter and all I usually do is just convert the textures to HDRP, but there is one problem I'm encoutering. The opacity map I assigned to it is not working.

what I'm trying to achieve

[raw palm]

I need help, i made a knife model in Blender and use it in Unity but no matter the rotation i changed in Blender, the rotation in Unity will always be the same and when i open the model using 3D view it works just as Blender, yeah so this causing problems for the rotation in my pickup script.

[dapper spade]

show some screenshots.. preferably from both unity and blender

[raw palm]

this is the rotation in Unity

here's in blender

[dapper spade]

just rotate its transform?

[raw palm]

yeah so i have a pickup system which will rotate to 0, 180, 0

so it doesnt matter if i rotate its transform

and i also have another model of knife and it works fine the rotation is working correctly

[dapper spade]

so did you export it properly?

after changing the rotation

[raw palm]

i don't know..?

[dapper spade]

okay so you changed its rotation in blender and did what?

exported it?

saved it?

[raw palm]

yup

[dapper spade]

which one ;-;

[raw palm]

i changed the rotation and exported it

[outer halo]

Make sure you apply the rotation in blender as well.

[raw palm]

i changed the rotation in here

is this not the way to apply rotation?

[dapper spade]

you can make an empty object in unity

make the knife its children, and rotate it

then the parent will have 0, 0, 0 rotation and yeah...

[raw palm]

well i mean that works too

but im still wondering why if i apply the rotation using Ctrl + A it resets the rotation to like flat on the ground

[dapper spade]

does you knife have any bones?

[raw palm]

no

[misty lantern]

This does not alter the mesh unless you use the "apply transforms" operation, or enable applying transforms on export

Anyway, the rotation doesn't even need to be correct necessarily
You can place the mesh under an empty gameobject and rotate the mesh object under that to be of correct orientation

[dapper spade]

or just edit the mesh, press A and rotate it with R?

[turbid wedge]

why does the "convert units" tab not do anything

if I change the scale value and press apply, the model scales accordingly in my scene

but if I check or uncheck that box, nothing happens after pressing apply

[sly raft]

can someone help me with this

[raw palm]

alright so it works fine with empty game object

[split timber]

are these white lines something to do with not enough edge padding, or something else?

scaling the object so it's longer doesn't get rid of those lines or move them

[misty lantern]

what lines, exactly

[split timber]

i think it's the uvs or something. See the lines separating the black textures?

I think it's taking the color of the sides and putting it there bc theres not enough padding

[misty lantern]

what does that part look on the UV map

[split timber]

ima just make it half one color half the other

with the uvs kind of small on each side

I mean there's no reason for me to have baked it. But what if it was a more complex texture? how would I fix that??

[misty lantern]

This isn't much info about the mesh, but I would guess it's a very normal case of UV bleeding

[split timber]

this is about how big the uv is though, is that not enough space?

[misty lantern]

Can you show a picture with the UV islands visible

[split timber]

yes

give me a second

could it be bleeding from a different part?

i decreased the size like that specifically because it was giving me a problem

[misty lantern]

That's what I would've tried as a solution too 🤔

Sure there's no edges or such in the black area?

[split timber]

nope

i fixed it

i just did what I said, made half the texture black half the texture gray and put all the uvs on corresponding side

[glacial vector]

You need to use a shader on that texture set that supports opacity

[fiery patio]

Is it legal if I get a 3d player model from the unity asset store and the asset has the unity license, use the player model for my main character in my game and post it on steam and getting all the money?

[dapper spade]

anything you buy from the asset store can be used commercially as far as I know

[fleet granite]

hi guys

me need help

Video Tutorial

me

I press S and why is it so stretched on the video in width because of what is it?

[outer halo]

They pressed S (scale), then X (x-axis).

If you don't define an axis to scale along, it'll scale uniformly along all of them, as you're experiencing.

[fleet granite]

thx

[frigid kite]

what is the best format Unity can use for 3D models with animation?

[outer halo]

FBX

[frigid kite]

thanks osteel

[frigid kite]

I'm creating gameobjects via script in the editor and I believe these are getting saved in the scene, is there a way to tell unity that these gameobjects are not to be saved?

[lime pollen]

anything you create using an editor script outside of playmode will be saved, why not just create the objects during playmode?

[frigid kite]

hm, it's cool not having to enter playmode

well, it was for a bit. now unity is taking ages to start and I'm unsure how to fix the problem.

found something: gameobject.hideFlags = HideFlags.DontSave;

[frigid kite]

sorry wrong channel

[fleet granite]

hi guys

I have it stretching like this with G + E on the video differently, what could be the problem?

video

[spark vigil]

what are some optimizations people need to do for using hand painted or pbr models?

i find the HP/pbr models are too big in file sizes

even the high poly baked to low poly the file sizes are huge

really wonder how these folks make their final product within considerable size

or the optimisations techniques are not followed anymore?

[simple sonnet]

You mean textures? You can just change compression method and max size in Unity depending on the platform. 2k to 1k texture is 1/4th the file size basically. Just an example

[jaunty violet]

Guys I'm using blender to bake textures for Oculus quest 2. But I don't get that realism as I get when using hdrp for a pc application

My objects and environments still look a little cartoonish

And for bigger objects like walls and tables my AO maps (shadows) get pixalated.

[misty lantern]

Are you including the textures in the files? In either case, you'll get the final filesize for textures after compressing and downscaling them during import

Otherwise I'm curious what kind of polycount and filesize the problematic models have

[solid iris]

can some one help me with blender 3D animation?

[severe summit]

does anyone have a copy of maya autodesk that can help me? i need someone to convert a .mb file to a .fbx file?

[lapis jolt]

if anyone has a concept art of snow ball gun

and is willing to share then pls share to me

all i found till now is this

and i dont know if i can use it\

[lapis jolt]

i think i can use this in a non commercial way

[rapid echo]

Some progress for a garden scene in blender.
.
https://twitter.com/FarrukhAbdur/status/1426078354088861697?s=20

Farrukh Abdur (@FarrukhAbdur)

New progress. Added some wind chimes in the garden environment. 🌸

#b3d #gamedev #blender3d #indiedev #blender https://t.co/DRHfXg5T9R

Twitter · Aug 13, 2021, 7:09 AM

[whole crow]

how do i undo / see which one it means?

[wide quiver]

Not sure where to ask this but o well. how does one go about texturing a VERY large mesh ~ where you can't use UV re-purposing or texture tiling without making the texture file obscenely high resolution?

[misty lantern]

This probably means there's problematic n-gons or non-manifold geometry

N-gons often cause problems, non-manifold sometimes
https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/7910/what-is-non-manifold-geometry

Edges that perfectly overlap other edges are the worst offenders in my experience
They are often created if you erroneously cancel an extrusion operation

[glacial vector]

Tiling textures + trim sheets + vertex painting + decals

[wide quiver]

can't tile the texture

[misty lantern]

wdym

[wide quiver]

these are large rock sculpts

[glacial vector]

Why can't you tile a rock texture

[misty lantern]

🤔

[wide quiver]

how do you bake normals from high poly model to low poly model with tiling?

[misty lantern]

I suspect you may want to look into detail maps

[glacial vector]

You can't bake

With huge assets you can't work with unique unwraps

[wide quiver]

okay

[misty lantern]

Well, you can

If you keep the resolution low enough

The detail maps are still doing the heavy lifting though

[wide quiver]

ok did quick googling on that, looks like it could work yeah

how performance heavy are those?

[glacial vector]

An alternative is a workflow where you blend different tileable textures with a uniquely unwrapped mask. The mask will be low res but that's fine when you blend tileables

[misty lantern]

Not too bad
Better than trying to fit big and small details on the same map

Detail mask is a nice trick too, though not always needed

[wide quiver]

well it looks decent enough already i'm just trying to make it so the model doesn't look like complete ass when you walk close up to it

[misty lantern]

Especially for rocks you'll want to use detail maps to give it the appearance of "stone"
The only thing the base texture needs to handle is big, nonspecific variations in color over the whole mesh

Or in case of normal maps, uniquely placed cracks

[misty lantern]

Just something to break up the repetition of the detail maps

Every stone of the same type of rock can use the same detail texture, so it's economical

[wide quiver]

alright thanks a lot guys

[obsidian moon]

can i get some constructive criticism on my vector model please 🙂

[misty lantern]

Looks great
Would look even better with smooth shading and face weighted normals

[obsidian moon]

im new to blender idk what any of that means lol but ill try research it

[misty lantern]

from left to right: flat shaded, smooth shaded, smooth shaded with weighted normals

oh wait my mistake, third is auto smoothed, not weighted normals

this one is with weighted normals

probably the most "realistic" technique

[obsidian moon]

Oh ok, is it just a modifier?

[misty lantern]

There is a modifier that calculates weighted normals, yes

You can also make them manually wit Set From Faces normal operation

[twin stone]

hey guys, does anyone know how can I ignore this "ground" object on the "floor" object in blender? I don't know where can I ask about that so I hope someone is going to help me here xD

[obsidian moon]

Do you mean hide it? You just click the eye next to it in the hierarchy

Or delete it

[twin stone]

I don't really know how to write it exactly xD but I mean I want this floor to be flat on this ground so I just want to hide this high ground elements on it

[obsidian moon]

Oh you mean get rid of the sand on top of the cube foundation?

[twin stone]

yep

[obsidian moon]

You can either move the vertices or use a Boolean modifier to carve the sand away I think

[twin stone]

well I tried to use boolean modifier but it doesn't work properly xD but moving vertices is not bad idea

I will try it, thanks!

[obsidian moon]

np if it doesn’t work ask again I’m not the best at blender lol

[spring pewter]

hello everyone, I have a doubt and I would love to solve it, I'm creating a game with a very large map and I need to create some vegetation, following some tutorials I have created some grass but using 3d models with few faces (4/5 ), now I would like to create other types of grass but that have more complex shapes, I have looked around on the web and some use 3-plane textures to simulate grass. Is there a more effective way to do this and maybe one that cannot burden the performance too much? PS: I suck at making textures.

Thanks in advance

[obsidian moon]

any other constructive criticism (scroll up to see before)

[misty lantern]

The noise texture is strange and nonsensical to be quite honest, try using a PBR standard metal material
The mesh is almost entirely smooth shaded now, the weighted normals aren't working properly if that's the intention

Though the barrel and some screws are flat shaded still? Not sure what's going on there

Normals can be confusing

[indigo barn]

Does anyone know what program this is made in?

[outer halo]

Old version of Blender.

[indigo barn]

Oh ok

Thanks

[distant summit]

I use 2.79b

[eager mist]

@thorny wasp you helped me with other stuff i was wondering if you can help me with something or at least point me towards a tutorial, i asked someone else earlier and they couldn't help me at all this is my issue, i have this tree and the mesh is glitching back and forth like there 2 meshes in one but thats not the issue and you seem experienced enough to help me what do you suggest i do?

[thorny wasp]

I know -100 about 3D modelling

[eager mist]

ah ok

[eager mist]

jus tso you know for future refrence it was the light bias

i needed to turn it up

[livid salmon]

@modest rapids Do you know how to add a point in ProBuilder?

I've got a point (TOP LEFT) but I was wondering how to create a point below it. I can't find a way to do it

[modest rapids]

I meant try asking here, not try pinging me here ._.

I also already answered this

sdfjaakjsdf imma' go make dinner

[livid salmon]

Alright, cya

[spring pewter]

someone can help me? Or I should ask it in another channel?

[eager mist]

revert the changes the one above looks way better

[modest rapids]

@livid salmon by the way, I know it's hard to get help here sometimes, if you'd like a few Discord invites to helpful communities, send me a dm and I'll be happy to share them

[simple sonnet]

So I've read through docs to try to understand what exactly Unity's "Generate Lightmap UV's" does, but I seriously can't find any. Does it do a full auto-unwrap or just layout the UVs?

[misty lantern]

Full unwrap to the second UV channel, afaik

[simple sonnet]

Yea. I did a test earlier, and it does. I just never have any luck with baking results using it so always set up my second UV channel myself. 🤷‍♂️

[quiet thunder]

my first sculpt with blender

[spark vigil]

making some puny characters
https://gyazo.com/1e134b632898dc12bf1db8455b416a08

[hot atlas]

anyone know how to fix an issue im having where one of my models keeps just sliding away for no reason? (dont really know what chat to post this question in but this seems most fitting)

[eager mist]

do you use blender and have an animation?

just any kind of animation

[hot atlas]

i have no animation its just a model i got from the asset store

[eager mist]

any rigidbodies?

and is it on a ui layer?

[hot atlas]

no i have no rigidbodies (not on the object atleast)

[eager mist]

hmmm

im lost man

maybe attach a rigidbody and set it to is kenimatic true and gravity off

@hot atlas

[hot atlas]

ye ill try it now

[hot atlas]

ye it didnt work ._.

[eager mist]

yeah idk

what is the issue exactly, like a slide or an instant movement

[hot atlas]

its just slowly sliding down to the right

[eager mist]

wym by DOWN to the right

like a diagonal

[hot atlas]

ye

[eager mist]

like it isnt colliding with anything and just going on your screen or what

send a pic of what your thing looks like

[hot atlas]

i could send a video to

[eager mist]

can you?

[eager mist]

thats weird

and it does that on start infinitely?

[hot atlas]

yes

[eager mist]

so go into the isnpector in play mode, does the guns position move in the inspector stats?

it does nm

@hot atlas as dumb as this sounds just try to make/place another in the scene

[hot atlas]

ok

[simple sonnet]

What's on the parents of the gun?

[eager mist]

no parents

[simple sonnet]

It does

[hot atlas]

why in gods name did that work

[eager mist]

thats the one thats being held

[eager mist]

lol idk

[hot atlas]

unity just gotta be like that sometimes

[eager mist]

is it named different than the first one in any way?

you may have something messing with the object based on its name

[hot atlas]

ye it just has a (1) at the end cuz i just did copy paste

[hot atlas]

that is very possible

[simple sonnet]

In the video the one he has selected lives inside a parent and isn't the one being held. Different style...

[eager mist]

no

[eager mist]

perhaps an animation

ive found unity doesnt like things named the same name too

[simple sonnet]

Oh lol, my bad. I didn't look close enough. Looked like it was inside it there

[eager mist]

lol its alr

[hot atlas]

idk cuz the weird thing is i copied it again and renamed it the same thing as the one that was moving and this time it was normal

[eager mist]

hmmm

maybe it was a referenced object in another script IDK

lol

its sus

[hot atlas]

anyways thank you for the help :D

[eager mist]

np

my first time helping somone lol

well i have tutored and taught ppl before but never helped

[bold basin]

guys my brother has an interview tomorrow 3d artist (textures) what kind of questions should he anticipate

[eager mist]

robot from danis games

[arctic oxide]

does anyone that use blender see this glitch before

i imported a blender file into unity and it looks like this

from inside you can see the sides

but in blender and 3d displayer it looks like this

[eager mist]

try exporting it as fbx, sometimes obj glitches like that

[arctic oxide]

i did

i normally export in fbx

i triend normal blender save too

[eager mist]

thats really weird, could you be using a bad shader?

[arctic oxide]

i normally just program and have bad graphics but i was like i can try so i dont have much experience in doing graphics

[arctic oxide]

where would i check which shaders

[eager mist]

wait

do you have a material on there

[arctic oxide]

no

[eager mist]

add one and see if that works

[arctic oxide]

it didnt

its made in hdrp could that be a problem?

[eager mist]

i have no clue but probably

[arctic oxide]

ok thx

[simple sonnet]

Looks like your normals are inverted? "To access the option and/or correct an inside-out or inverted face, first select the errant mesh element in Edit Mode [1] (using vertex, edge or face) and from the Mesh menu upper-left click Normals [2] then Flip [3] from the options that appear – Mesh » Normals » Flip"

If you apply a two sided shader to it and it fixes it, that's the issue

[arctic oxide]

ye thx

someone answered to me on blender discord

[hollow leaf]

Could somebody let me know where i can learn blender properly

[simple sonnet]

Endless resources on YouTube..

[hollow leaf]

That is the problem, there are so many videos on yourube that I don’t know which one to watch

[simple sonnet]

Understandable. I'd search for blender basics, beginner, etc. And just make sure they have a majority of likes. I'd suggest learning by doing though. Hard to memorize and understand menus without creating at the same time.

[eager mist]

question: my guy doesnt go pew pew it goes brrrrrr for some reason

even though its not a question

[neon hazel]

Hi, I'm trying to retexture the props from an asset pack, but multiple different props use the same materials, and I'm not sure how to use substance painter to focus on one prop at a time. When I edit textures for one prop, I end up messing up the other props that have the same texture and it ends up like this:

I feel like I should find some way to import an fbx which holds all the objects using the same material, but I can't find anything for that

[eager mist]

If they use different materials you just drag on a new material for every object and the texture should go off that

[neon hazel]

Oh, so do you mean I should make separate duplicates of the material for each prop that uses it?

[eager mist]

Yes

Seperate textures too

Just duplicate it

It uses the same uvs so it should work

Materials change the over all color so make different ones

[neon hazel]

Ok, thanks much!

[eager mist]

Did ot work?

@nuo

@neon hazel ?

[neon hazel]

I didn't try it yet, but I'm 99% sure based on what you said that it will

[eager mist]

Yeah

[neon hazel]

Only downside I guess is that it will take up a bit more space though :d

[eager mist]

Try making different mats first then duplicate the txtur

[eager mist]

Not even a mb

[neon hazel]

Yeah, I need to get the original texture again since I overwrote it lol

[eager mist]

Lol

[neon hazel]

Ooh okay cool

[eager mist]

Dm me if it works

Or if h need more help

[distant hearth]

I've made this much of a raccoon in Dust3d. Is making keyframes / aniumating in unity easy?

idk what to do next tbh

[lime pollen]

you need to rig it before animating it, and not in unity

[distant hearth]

the colors are rig representation

of limbs etc

so if that's done it's good to import? any specific file types or whatever?

[lime pollen]

ideally fbx

animating in unity is somewhat annoying, you want to do that in blender or something

[hollow leaf]

Got it. Thanks man

[distant hearth]

idk anything about animating tbh. Thanks for the advice

[eager mist]

How to make those neon red light Effects?

[lapis jolt]

simple

go to unity

create new matterial

crank up the emmison map intensity

works in urp and not in normal 3d btw

^^^^^^^^^

@eager mist

[eager mist]

I thought of doing that in blender :o

[lapis jolt]

no

unity has its own technique for glass glow etc

creating it in blender will lead to many problems

[outer halo]

You need to use post processing, bloom. The material has to use emission as well.

[lapis jolt]

^^^^^

[eager mist]

Hey guys this isnt really about a problem I have, but I am making a first person horror game, do I need to hand texture absolutely EVERYTHING?

[harsh dagger]

No, if you use software like Substance Painter you could do it procedurally

It's a big time saver

Now if you mean UV mapping the automatic UV mapping from the latest versions of Maya are pretty good

But for UV mapping I still think doing it by hand is the best route

[eager mist]

Well I UV unwrap in Blender and do all my texturing in photoshop

[eager mist]

But uh do you know how I can get UV mapping to work correctly in Unity? the mapping is wrong in Unity but its correct in Blender.

[misty lantern]

Not if you don't want to
Other solutions include using generic textures per material, trim sheets and procedural texturing

[misty lantern]

When importing a mesh unity has the option to generate UV maps
Make sure that option is off if your mesh already has UV maps

[eager mist]

where is that option?

[harsh dagger]

When you import your mesh to Unity, it will then be in your assets window

if you click it, you should see options in your inspector

[eager mist]

i mean yeah

but i dont see a "generate uvs" option

[misty lantern]

Oh, got my terms mixed up

The UV generation is only for lightmaps

[eager mist]

Pls help

the uvs are once again fine in Blender

so its not the model

[harsh dagger]

Both textures look different, though

The yellow is much bigger on the texture below

[misty lantern]

Zoomed in, likely

[eager mist]

Yeah the Blender one is the correct one

the Unity one is messed up

[harsh dagger]

Did you make sure you saved the mesh and re-exported it?

[eager mist]

yes

[harsh dagger]

Are you exporting as FBX?

[misty lantern]

Applied transforms? Do you have modifiers or multiple UV channels?

[eager mist]

no multiple UVs, no modifiers

Yes exporting as FBX

[misty lantern]

Can't think of anything else off the top of my head
I haven't had to troubleshoot this kind of issue before

[eager mist]

I might just wanna set all my textures in Blender, and just export the FBX with the material

I've seen few people do it that way

[harsh dagger]

If your mesh is properly UV mapped it doesnt matter, it should be working

Maybe the material in blender has different scale / offset

So the 1 / 1 in Unity looks off

[misty lantern]

Oh yea you could show the material in blender's shader editor too

[eager mist]

So wait a minute

I am starting over the modeling process. It's okay to make separate models? I thought you had to make EVERYTHING in your model using one mesh

[harsh dagger]

It's okay to have separated pieces

[simple sonnet]

Yea, you can export multiple meshes in one fbx or whatever. But I do recommend combining them at the end if they make up one solid object (like the foot of table + the table for example). Just export them with different materials applied if you want the ability to assign unique ones to each of the pieces in Unity.
Of course, the absolute best is to have them all use the same material and textures. Just mapping them out.

[misty lantern]

Geometry does not have to be continuous and a mesh asset can contain multiple mesh objects

[harsh dagger]

If it's for promo you could either render in a rendering software or create a scene in unity specific for that. Then bump all the quality settings to max and such

Not forgetting to use hero assets if available

[modest rapids]

It seems like the 2021 beta is breaking all material files for most all assets in the store? (even the Starter Assets pack made by Unity that's just a month old)...

Is this something... to worry about?

It looks like I can import a project into 2020, export assets as a custom package, then import into a 2021 project and the materials will work properly.

This must just be a temporary thing (or maybe I'm stumbling over myself). I'd love to hear if anyone out there is having similar experiences.

[brave ravine]

I tried 2021.2 for the first time today with the new Cinematic Studio sample, and all the materials seemed to reimport correctly - it even had to do the whole 'These were made with an older version of HDRP and need to be converted" thing

That's the only experience I have with it, but it seemed to be fine

[modest rapids]

hm, maybe I've just had a couple flukes, thank you for sharing

[brave ravine]

Welcome. I might've gotten lucky too. I've been sticking with 2020 LTS for my main project so far, but pondering the jump

[modest rapids]

I'd recommend it, but I do think there's something going on here with material files... be careful with backups before upgrading

[brave ravine]

Yeah, I have local and remote backups, AND actual version control 🙂

The only way to get an Apple Silicon native editor is 2021.2+, which is my main incentive. I've been afraid of problems with various assets though because they don't seem to test on it as much yet.

But man, the slow translated editor is killing me

[modest rapids]

yeah, I kind of feel like testing a little bit crowd sourced

but, overall I think 2021 has a lot more verified bug fixes than new hidden bugs, haha

[brave ravine]

It did seem pretty solid. I don't think I encoutered any bugs as I worked through the course on the sample project

And man, the speed was soooo much better. If they get burst working soon I probably won't be able to make excuses not to move to it anymore

[misty lantern]

Materials broken how? Iirc the starter package materials need to be converted to your respective rendering pipeline regardless of editor version

If you're not on built-in

[modest rapids]

drops albedo input (but holds onto normal and metalic), I think it will uncheck transparencies, for URP

I'm probably just doing something foolish if no one else has experienced this

[simple sonnet]

Yes, but it's more performant to combine into bigger meshes than have thousands of smaller meshes when you could just combine them. Can also be done with batching of course

[dire ermine]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/aYzlRz

[eager mist]

Got a question guys, How would I UV unwrap difficult models CORRECTLY? Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to hand texture every one of my models (seriously) but what's stopping me is that I don't know how to UV unwrap properly

[lime pollen]

uv unwrapping is a skill in of itself, my advice would be to go through tutorials and get familiar with the unwrapping tools available to you in blender (assuming you're using blender) the rest is just practice

[eager mist]

Ok let me ask you this. Would it be better, lets say a chalkboard for example, to make the legs seperate, and the actual board separate from the other part that holds the board up, or join them together?

[lime pollen]

chalkboards have legs? 🤔

[eager mist]

Well the portable ones

yes

[lime pollen]

oh ok

probably separate then

then join them for the final export

[eager mist]

ok. Sorry for asking, I just wanna hand texture my models, I'm just not that good at UV unwrapping

Wont joining them mess up the UV unwrap?

or the textures?

[lime pollen]

not if you keep the maps separate

completely up to you how you do that though

[livid salmon]

So I've got a Roof Cloth which can only been seen from the top not the bottom. How do I fix this?

[lapis jolt]

did u export from blender

?

[lapis jolt]

i think its due to normals and stuff

[livid salmon]

normals?

[livid salmon]

and maybe

[lapis jolt]

ys

[livid salmon]

I'm confused

[lapis jolt]

go to overlays in blender

turn on face orientation

[livid salmon]

Wait, I don't think it was from blender

[lapis jolt]

then

[livid salmon]

I'm still trying to find the fbx file

[lapis jolt]

ok

[lapis jolt]

then look from the side u want to see

red ones are bad blues are good

[livid salmon]

Okay, got it one sec

Blender is not working with me 😂

[lapis jolt]

lol

[livid salmon]

Remind me again, where's overlays?

[lapis jolt]

in blender

top

idk about other softwares

[livid salmon]

Okay, so the bottom side is red

I love how the other side of the wall is all red 😂

[lapis jolt]

selct the red parts

alt+n flip

[livid salmon]

Didn't work

[lapis jolt]

or just selct entire mesh

alt+n recalculate outdide

outside

[livid salmon]

Here

Alt+N doesn't do anything?

[lapis jolt]

slect the roofs

roof cloths

i mean the red bois

try flipping normals

cause frick red bois

[livid salmon]

Doesn't work either

[lapis jolt]

wht happens

[livid salmon]

Nothing

[lapis jolt]

is backface cu;lling on

?

[lilac edge]

Hex

#FF0000

RGB

255, 0, 0

[livid salmon]

It's not

[lapis jolt]

ok

are you looking from the side u will look in game

[lapis jolt]

r u flipping normals in object mode

go to edit mode

[livid salmon]

Oh well that was dumb of me

[lapis jolt]

worked?

👍

[livid salmon]

It has worked and now I know I need to spend more time learning Blender 😂

[lapis jolt]

its problem that blender works without backface culling

but unity uses it

[livid salmon]

Fair enough

[lapis jolt]

turn on backface culling in blender to see how model will look in unty

[livid salmon]

One sec, getting these meshes to flip is tiring

[lapis jolt]

lol

[livid salmon]

Backface culling didn't do anything?

[lapis jolt]

then ur normals are fine\

or faces are correctly oriiented

[livid salmon]

Good to hear

Not to do the same thing over and over for about 2 hours, wish me luck!

Oh one question, how do you extend a already made mesh?

[lapis jolt]

like extrude/

didnt undeerstand

[livid salmon]

Extruding only extends the mesh lines. But doesn't add to it

I want it to be double sided? If you know what I mean?

Like this where it has two sides?

I was tempted to do Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V then flip it

Wait...

I'm being more stupider by the second

I need to Extrude the faces right'?

[lapis jolt]

yes

[livid salmon]

Gotcha, another hour...

[lapis jolt]

u tried to do edge exrtrude i guess

[livid salmon]

Yeah

@lapis jolt I have this problem when I import a FBX file into unity it changes the area in which it was?

Before

After

It's like Blender doesn't save the correct positioning for anything

[lapis jolt]

both looks same to me

[livid salmon]

Look for this in both pictures

[livid salmon]

@lapis jolt? Any ideas?

[errant plover]

Apply the position.

[lapis jolt]

blenderr ctrl + a

apply transformation or position or smthing

[livid salmon]

No same issue

[lapis jolt]

applied transformation?

also while exporting from blender tick apply transform option

unit not recquired that much

[livid salmon]

Um, I don't get those options

[lapis jolt]

export selct fbx

selct the otems u wann a export 1st

then go to export fbx

tick limit to selected items

apply transformation

bamm

[livid salmon]

I don't think I want to touch that again

[lapis jolt]

omg

[livid salmon]

Ikr

[lapis jolt]

🥺 poor guy

try to select all

if your pc handles that very cool

or just manually adjust chnaged positions in unity

[livid salmon]

It's definitely something to do with Blender because I imported it then just exported it straight away and still had the same effect

[lapis jolt]

didi u download thgat model from somehwere

[livid salmon]

The whole model? No

[lapis jolt]

very cool

u made it

?

[livid salmon]

Yes and no, some of it I made. Some of it I didn't

[lapis jolt]

just try doing this

ok

a to selct all btw

delete light and camer and all

not required

[livid salmon]

It's a masterpiece

[livid salmon]

With this applied

[lapis jolt]

haha

ctrl a transform?

[livid salmon]

Even that

[lapis jolt]

1st do this

[lapis jolt]

then this

[lapis jolt]

okk

then apply rotation

before transform

ctrl a location rotation transform scale apply everyhting

4 th option

[livid salmon]

Okay, so it's going well apart from the 90 degree rotation

[lapis jolt]

then apply rotation before appling transforms

[livid salmon]

How?

[livid salmon]

In Transform?

[lapis jolt]

2nd option

[livid salmon]

Ah

Nope

[lapis jolt]

noice

[livid salmon]

Not nice haha

[lapis jolt]

do apply transform 1st

then everthing will be normal position except 90degree roattion

selct 90degree ones

r axis 90

problem solved

[livid salmon]

r axis?

[lapis jolt]

r for rotate

axis for the axis around which to rotate

or just dm me model

hehe

[livid salmon]

So it's the right rotation but wrong place

[lapis jolt]

i will do trasnfroms and send ya

hmm

im in class rn

[livid salmon]

Ah okay

[lapis jolt]

physics

i will brb

[livid salmon]

Do you think you could fix it if I send you my unity project and blender file?

[lapis jolt]

👍

dm me

[livid salmon]

Cause from my point of view you know more than I do haha

[lapis jolt]

lol

[livid salmon]

And I want this to work because it will save me a ton of time 😂

[lapis jolt]

im just a 15yr kid that tries every keyboard shortcut heh

[livid salmon]

haha

[lapis jolt]

also send .blend fil;e

i will check after class over ok

[livid salmon]

Okay sure

Thanks!

[eager mist]

hello, i am new to blender can someone help me?
when i tried to resize this sphere it turns into a a capsule type shape

[tulip fractal]

there should be a key you hold down that constrains its dimensions

like shift

[ripe valley]

Can someone help me with a problem im having? Its my first time making assets for unity and im having some trouble.
I have exported my fbx and textures separately out of blender. When i bring the fbx into unity and place it in the scene the textures work.
What i have noticed is that in the project assets it shows the model on its side and in the editor it rotates it -90 so that its upright.
Also some child objects are stretched in a weird way and get worse when rotated. I am not using apply rotation as when i bring the objects into unity some child objects are missing.
Here are the pictures showing what i mean. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.

[eager mist]

Oh ok thanks

[fluid oak]

@ripe valley the 'on its side' thing is because blender and unity use different axis for 'up.' The distorted rotations usually are due to an object being the child of a non uniformly scaled transform.

[ripe valley]

so i should apply scale in blender?

[fluid oak]

The scale of the child is applied in the object space of the parent.

And yes, you should apply all scales before export if you can.

[ripe valley]

ok i can apply the scales, but im not sure what you meant by "The scale of the child is applied in the object space of the parent."

[ripe valley]

I have manually applied the scale in the context menu but when i tick apply scale in the export menu it makes the children objects really small and distorted

if i untick it, it works but then its on its side

[cinder sun]

Think I’ve done something wrong…