@halcyon kite Only critic would be that your model is "below ground", my OCD is screaming. 🙂
#🔀┃art-asset-workflow
glass maple
halcyon kite
I'm learning
glass maple
@halcyon kite While it is good to learn the basics of polygon modeling Sculpting is essential skill for artists.
@halcyon kite See this playlist if you are not yet familiar with the fundamentals.
halcyon kite
Thanks
glass maple
All the essentials in condenced package. I always show it to my sudents so we are on the same page.
dark tulip
testing mocap with 1 kinect, i've got a 2nd one that needs a usb 3.0 extender and then i'll hopefully add that in and it'll be much better
tacit mesa
yeah probably, as you can see as soon your arms are hidden it cant detect them properly
empty sierra
Hi I currently have a plane that the player moves on and was wandering how I could get the plane to extend as the player moves??
Edit: its acctually a flat rectangle and I want to extend it on the z acus
tacit mesa
thats more something for #💻┃code-beginner
would guess its the best to just place a new plane when the chracter gets closer to the edge
so just simply spawning new planes in front of it
and by adding a custom shader for example you could hide the surface depending on the distance so that it is drawn depending on the distance to get a smooth appear
final granite
verbal dagger
@brave slate Hi, I'm not sure if you still have the question about the shader... In any case, yes, and it's pretty much the same setup.
The main difference will be your "Generated Z axis" from Blender, in Unity you'll use "Vertex position" for local coordinates or "World position" for global coordinates. For the ramp use a Gradient node, and you might want to adjust it using a smooth step or a divide-power-saturate setup.
Cheers!
brave slate
@verbal dagger And is there a way to expose the gradient from the shader to the inspector window, so i can change it in there? Because i found a way of doing it with 2 colors with position, splitting, deviding, smoothing and lerping, but those are just 2 colors, if i would want to add more, i would need to add those steps over and over again ...
verbal dagger
It is not possible at the moment. However you could use a texture gradient instead... It would be actually more performant.
If you decide to go this way, change the gradient part of your shader. You'll need to affect the uv coordinates of the texture instead of the "time" of the gradient.
brave slate
And by texture gradient, you mean a texture, with a gradient on it right?
verbal dagger
Right.
brave slate
Okay, thanks, i will just stick to 2 colors, because that at least gives me more freedom when picking only in unity inspector.
agile kraken
sullen plank
past solar
hello can somebody tell me how to apply different materials to different faces of an object?
sullen plank
You need to use ProBuilder or similar tool in Unity to assign materials and create submeshes. Or use 3d editor like Blender
past solar
do things like metallic get transferred from blender to unity?
sullen plank
there's a guide in the manual which materials are compatible
past solar
Thank you
burnt marsh
So you'd recommend Probuilder and Blender? when starting off in creating 3D games?
sullen plank
ProBuilder is a very simple in-Unity editor great for creating prototypes and low poly shapes.
burnt marsh
Oh okay thanks
frail hedge
Guys, I'm currently in a game jam and today is the last day and I need an asset of a person for my game but it has to be sitting, so I found an asset but it's standing so I was wondering if someone can help me to make it like if he's sitting
still osprey
Trails cant be seen in game, anybody knows how can I fix that?
weak gale
If you want you can see how we model the cars of Mini Racing World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3kw3r9RwvY&t=3s
tacit mesa
@agile kraken its something about your UP axis
most likely
@still osprey did you try to change the allignment? if you have bilboards which are parralel to the cam you cant see them
still osprey
@still osprey did you try to change the allignment? if you have bilboards which are parralel to the cam you cant see them
@tacit mesa tried both allignment methods and it doesnt help
vestal dew
What's the easiest way to bake normals on vertex colors?
Blender 2.7 had an option for it but now it doesn't have it anymore
limber field
what kind of effect would be used for doing that @vestal dew ?
http://philippseifried.com/blog/2020/03/blender-addon-normals-to-vertex-colors/ seems to have some info
talks how blender lost that feature and some other options
vestal dew
I'm making a game with some items that have both sharp and smooth edges; I need to outline some of these items so I wrote a shader that does the Outline Hull trick (that is, rendering the mesh with an unlit front culled material that offsets the vertices along their normals); problem is that where the faces are marked as flat in the modeling program their vertices have split tangents and therefore the trick breaks along these edges
so I thought, rather than sourcing the normals from the vertex info, I could source them from the vertex color
this should allow me to keep the correct shading on the model, and at the same time provide me with the correct directions over which I can inflate the mesh
vestal dew
I've installed the Blender addon and I'm about to try it, but I fear that it'll bake the smoothed normals on the smoothed mesh, I have to find a way to take those colors and copy them on the original one
limber field
you could do that in unity with editor scripting too
I've done a few tools actually in unity to bake data for other applications, just because I am comfy in unity
silver gale
Anyone know how I can keep my mesh from doing this when I bake the lighting?
When unity converts the quads into tris it puts that annoying line down the center of the wall and light bleeds through
@ me if you can help please
vestal dew
@limber field quick update: it kinda worked, but now the hull is ballooning all the way on one side, I'll just have to fix this issue but it's working as intended (sorta)
limber field
@vestal dew nice
vestal dew
@limber field still having issues here, I can't override the mesh vertex normals from the shader
admittedly it looks kinda better, but the faces keep splitting
limber field
hrm, I imagine you are pushing them around using their vert normals?, which would be different vectors
how is it set up right now?
vestal dew
I'm converting the vertex colors from tangent space to normal space first of all
sorry, I meant world space
then I push the vertices along this new normal
the problem is that the mesh sharp edges are still conflicting, as they somehow command the shader to compute the vertices on the sharp edges as split edges
as split tangents*
this is the dreaded error
limber field
yeah, that makes sense, it's a tough one
vestal dew
see how the faces on the front of the piece (right side) are detached from the others
limber field
yeah, I think there are other ways of getting an outline that uses buffers somehow
vestal dew
that's because my friend (the one who's modeling) marked those as sharp edges; I thought that maybe baking the normals of the "unsharpened" mesh would force the hull to render without splitting the tangents
limber field
but your idea I would think would work if the verts do have the proper data an you only offset those verts with that information, not any of the actual vert tangent/normal info
vestal dew
Front piece, as seen in Blender
but your idea I would think would work if the verts do have the proper data an you only offset those verts with that information, not any of the actual vert tangent/normal info
@limber field that's what I thought too, in the shader I avoid calling anything from vertex info (except for the position ofc)
limber field
if you can afford some more geometry, you can bevel those hard edges and use face weighted normals to retain the flatness
vestal dew
I know, but it's for a VR project and I need to go cheap on the faces
also yeah, using face normals would have been better but it's not part of my friend's workflow
limber field
let me try something
I can definitely get a split box to have it's verts move in unison, ie not split
the vert info I have is not right, but they don't split
what is your graph, and what do your vert colors look like?
vestal dew
I was shifting some stuff around in the meanwhile, got something almost correct
vertex position set to absolute
now it's inflating the hull correctly, without splitting edges, thought it still tends to inflate towards the bottom more, but I guess that's a matter of geometry
example of the new behaviour
I've got to quit for today, 2 AM here, but I guess that object -> clip is somehow the right way
thank you @limber field
limber field
np
lone bough
Hey people, anyone know of a good place online to find good modeling references for things like TVs or Armchairs? Like front, side, top views ect?
errant plover
@lone bough https://www.dimensions.com/
lone bough
@errant plover Ah! Thanks!
noble lark
Hey, dose anyone know how to import models into unity from Blender? every time i try it doesn't load.
junior stone
what are you exporting them as? @noble lark
noble lark
i did glb and fbx. glb is the one you see there that doesn't, and fbx comes out blurry.
junior stone
if its blurry is probably texture encoding being funky
junior stone
also afaik glb doesnt show a prefab
noble lark
oh okay! so what do you recommend for me to do?
junior stone
fbx should work if you change some settings on the texture's import settings
but if you are building for web glb is a lot more efficient, tho I wouldnt worry about it this early on
noble lark
alright thank you!
glacial vector
The blurriness is on the texture is it not?
If you set the filtering to point it should stop it from doing that
tropic bay
https://youtu.be/Au8oX5pu5u4
At 5:40 He applied a force to the left. Why did the cube stop when he released the key?
Shouldn't it keep moving according to Newton First Law?
(He set the friction coefficient to 0 at 1:30 so no leftward force should be applied)
granite sky
more like 5d for all i care
eager mist
Been learning how to model in blender. Curious, when making humanoid characters, do you guys start from a base model or build your humanoids from scratch?
karmic lion
Hey guys, how can i delete actions in blender, and make new actions that have no keyframes (that are empty)?
orchid river
mighty hound
Its a start
vestal kite
Made a combination lock with 3 LODs, what do you think?
Maya, Substance Painter, Screenshots taken in Unity
tacit mesa
gj
only thing i would point out is that a lock of realistic size is pretty much just a block from like 5-10 meters away
you could go even lower 🙂
but nontheless it is really good 🙂 quality asset
limber field
yeah, nice asset, I think with the tri count it's more about how it's used, is it a hero asset that is picked up and used by the player, or is it just a prop in the world, the former it can be that detailed easy, as a prop you would want to go lower and if there are ever a lot of them around even lower on the LODs
dark tulip
does anyone here at all use kinects for mocap?
vestal kite
@tacit mesa and @limber field thanks!
This wasn’t for work, but just a practice model similar to some of the pieces I create for training simulators, where you’d be right next to an electrical box or building, and might need to interact with the lock - would definitely drop it down to very minimal box shape or cull completely otherwise 🙂
limber field
@vestal kite yeah, nice job, I preach a lot of context to people at work and when I teach, if you find out how it's used, that should inform how it's made and finished
vestal kite
@limber field absolutely agree! I get asked way too often at work to provide a definitive guide to the other 3D artists about how many polys certain objects should be, but I can’t possibly provide that without context and it’s different for every project - how many will be in the scene, what you interact with, what has to move, etc, etc
vestal kite
I started as a 3D artist, but now I’m a mix of UX, UI, Unity dev and low poly 3D artist
It’s a small company haha
vestal kite
In Alberta, I won’t mention the name because my company is super secretive about everything haha. Working on my portfolio right now because I can’t show almost anything I’ve made in years
limber field
damn, that is secretive, I am in Southern California, we aren't as secretive
vestal kite
Yeah... they used to get mad at us for mentioning that we use Unity on our Linked In and stuff... mostly afraid other people might try and hire us 😅 little paranoid
vestal kite
Oh I’ve helped ship over a dozen products, probably 20+ at this point. But they’re mostly made for the energy industry and not publically available
vestal kite
Theyre kinda gamified training tools haha, so some aspects are similar, but certainly not as fun
limber field
oh nice, I was thinking of doing into that sector like medical visualizations and training tools a few years ago, but I crept back to games
but I figured they'd have me make a colonoscopy simulator and I said, no 🙂
vestal kite
Haha. I actually did work on medical visualizations for my bachelors and masters theses, so that’s a field I’ve always wanted to go back into. Maybe one day!
mystic olive
I am having trouble with the fbx exporter on unity 2019.4.14f on Linux Mint. It is giving me an an error that mainly says "ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key" the entire error is over 4000 words long. What should I do?
limber field
@vestal kite so you WANT to make butt probe simulators 😮
vestal kite
I wouldn’t say no 🤣
@mystic olive which version of the fbx exporter are you using? Is it the one from the package manager or the asset store?
vestal kite
Hmm I’m not sure if this helps at all, but I’ve had this or a similar issue a few versions back and it seemed to fail like that when I left some scripts on the models, and I might be remembering wrong but also had an issue exporting if there were colliders.
So if you can’t find anything else, maybe try to export in chunks and see which part is causing the issue. Unless it’s every export no matter what that’s failing
mystic olive
ok
@vestal kite I had a to delete some of the procedural animation components. Works like a charm now
vestal kite
Awesome!
unique moat
Hi, I have this problem with the skybox shader. There is one big seam only in one spot of the skybox. I have checked the texture and it's OK. Anyone have an idea of the solution?
glacial vector
Try out the different settings on the texture @unique moat, I'm pretty sure that's how I solved it but I can't remember which field it was
spark vigil
hi does anyone know how to do this but in blender 2.8?
like how to turn low poly models to 2D / pixel characters
spark vigil
is 6k tris low poly 🤔
remote path
vestal kite
@unique moat yup I’ve run into this plenty, go into the actual texture file(s) for the skybox, and set Wrap Mode to Clamp - that should fix it
rigid pelican
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rigid pelican
thats really all you need
dude if you study blender like for 1 day you can do it in your own lmao
its that simple
unique moat
@vestal kite @glacial vector thank you for the answer. At the end the problem was the mipmap generation
vestal kite
Ah yes that too haha
untold copper
In this screenshot (from Humankind), what technique did they use to make the trees and forests? Are they just 2d sprites or how do they work?
mortal maple
For those using UModeler: is it worth it? Anybody have any screenshots showing finished work made with it?
@untold copper they look like models. The unity terrain allows you to use brush tools to add terrain detail models as well as 2D sprite “billboards”
untold copper
Ok thx I’ll need to look into unity terrain then because I don’t know what model means in this context
untold copper
But how detailed is the model? Would I create such a tree in blender for example?
mortal maple
Since the camera is so far away it might not be very detailed. Yes you can make models in blender.
ruby brook
mortal maple
Maybe ask #archived-game-design
maiden tangle
@ruby brook
Helps to sketch out the layout first then realize in 3d, makes for easy iterations
limber field
yeah, always greybox stuff first, use the polytools, play and test, etc, detail later
mighty hound
1st session working on a MRAP.
ember badger
This back knee patch looks insane
wary eagle
@mighty hound MATV?
unique moat
i have this issue with the skybox. The skybox is a shadere made in Shader Graph. Anyone know how to fix this problem?
mighty hound
@wary eagle yes. MRAP. is a type of MATV.
wary eagle
actually, reverse that sentence and you're right. 😁
MATV is in the family of MRAP. 😉
that's a nice base btw!
mighty hound
MATV just means military all terrain vehicle. MRAP is specifically designed to withstand explosions.
wary eagle
Actually nope!
MATV is a family of all the same vehicles, just different generations.
you're right about the MRAP, that's why an MATV is an MRAP, and not the reverse.
prisma niche
Im not someone to post anything here often, but please be careful with youtube ads rn!
https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/1289920735465496577?s=20
Should add a warning
ornate spruce
anyone here that knows how to shrink multiple objects in blender and move them at the same time?
i want to add trees to this little island
errant plover
Oh haha. Goodluck
outer halo
Hey friends, curious to know if anyone has experienced making curved slopes/ramps in probuilder? Or am I just going to have to blender it?
wooden fern
This is my first time using prefabs and imported .obj's
What is with everything not called default here? Do I have to worry about them at all? Do I reference them or the defaults in scripts?
Is this the right channel?
serene vortex
Anyone here have expertise in modular level design in unity?
trying to optimize UV's for lightmapping in unity
patent hinge
Anybody here know about particle system forcefield?
errant plover
Its a cube... what is there to optimize?
limber field
@serene vortex unity can generate those for you, are you planning on doing your own lightmap Uvs?
serene vortex
@limber field I’m fully aware that unity can generate UVs for me but they tend to be very problematic no matter what settings I tweak
So I opted to make my own uvs for light mapping and store them in UV2
limber field
ok, you'd want more of a gutter between the 'sides' of things or unconnected shells of surface
serene vortex
Exactly. But what seems to be happening instead is I get thin black lines between any modular piece
No matter how far apart the UV islands are
I’ve even switched from Unity GPU lightmapper to Bakery which yields better results albeit not good enough for my desired platform
limber field
damn
serene vortex
Yeah I’m in the rut but if anyone can throw some wisdom my way it will be greatly appreciated!
limber field
can you show your result and the resulting lightmaps?
serene vortex
Gladly haha
limber field
interesting there is not a Lighting group, there is a terrain even, unless I don't see it
serene vortex
thats with the same modular system with roughly the same island spacing and such. ive outlined these thin seams with red ink
this is one of the walls
i think uv spacing is ample as the walls are adjacent so it wouldnt matter too much
errant plover
You'll always have those lines if you are using separate meshes. Nothing you can do about it.
serene vortex
@errant plover is unity's lightmapper really that bad? Ive seen many scenes that use modular meshes similar to mine that have clean lightmaps. I know somethings wrong
then again they do use the enlighten lightmapper... so idk..
errant plover
Its complicated to explain. Its working as intended tho.
Your walls/floor also have no textures.
If its going to be exactly the same, scale them instead of repeating.
serene vortex
hmmm @errant plover alright ill give that a go
wooden fern
How do I apply a material to a prefab? When I drag it onto it in the assets tab it just becomes a crossed out circle
errant plover
Open your prefab, drop the material onto the model.
wooden fern
Open it where? In the assets menu?
wooden fern
That opens Microsoft 3D Viewer. Dragging a material onto it does nothing
limber field
which one are you clicking on?
wooden fern
I imported the .obj and it made it a prefab
limber field
so platform_9 is a prefab?
limber field
well a prefab would show that Open Prefab button, it's probably just a model
wooden fern
Where you have Open Prefab I have a bunch of options, one of which is Materials
limber field
yeah, it's just a model
you haven't made a prefab
so, in an empty scene (or any scene), drop that model into the scene
serene vortex
@wooden fern
wooden fern
What next?
serene vortex
import settings for model and click materials u can then remap as you like
wooden fern
I found that
serene vortex
and did you plug your material in?
wooden fern
Yeah. I figured that out. I want it to be a prefab now
limber field
so a prefab is a collection of assets, any type of asset, and when you 'build' that in your scene, say it's a model with some particles and a light on it, if it has a parent object, you drag that BACK into the project and it creates a 'prefab'
you can do that with a single object too, not as useful, but you can test it
serene vortex
yeah i dont get quite what you mean @wooden fern the way @limber field described doing it is probably the best way. What exactly are you trying to achieve by having it as a prefab?
wooden fern
I'm somewhat familiar with prefabs so I can work with them easier
serene vortex
Oh i see. you should know that all imported fbx or obj from a model are perceived as prefabs by the editor anyway
wooden fern
Oh, I got it
serene vortex
but you can later unpack them to add parents ect and then repack buy dragging it into project library
wooden fern
Eh, this is like my third day with Unity so I wanna stick with where I'm comfortable for now
limber field
I unpacked prefabs on my 2nd day, so there 😛
prefabs in unity are pretty cool, unreal it's not as simple you have to use Blueprints or get a store bought tool
serene vortex
blueprints :/ yucky
limber field
heh
honestly unreal is kind of yucky in many ways, we'll see if Unreal5 is as they say
wooden fern
If I unpack them, can I delete the model? It deletes the mesh for me and it's really annoying
limber field
once you create a prefab in the project, you can remove whatever you have in the scene after that and the prefab will still exist in the project, you can then place as many of those in your scene, instantiate those, all you want
wooden fern
I have this right now, because when I delete circle_9_obj, circle_9 loses its mesh
limber field
unpacking just means you are breaking the connect to the original 'prefab' in the project, so you can make something new, otherwise if the connection is still active, you can do stuff like modify the instance of the prefab and save it BACK to the actual prefab in the project
yeah, a prefab just holds a reference to the things in the project
so if circle_9 is a prefab, it's like 'pointing' to circle_9_obj and saying, 'I use that'
so you will never remove the obj
wooden fern
So I have to keep the .obj in the project somewhere? I guess it makes sense, but it's annoying
limber field
yeah, it's like the source, just like a texture
just put it in a '/Models' folder and put your prefabs in a '/Prefabs' folder
this works because then if you change the obj, like re-export over it, the prefabs will get that change
limber field
np
limber field
sorting poorly, is your material alpha test, maybe show the material/shader
acoustic river
@limber field i'm using transparent
i made a custom pbr urp shader
Transparent Render Queue at 3100
how do i fix the sorting?
limber field
what is your settings here
acoustic river
transparent
Ohhhhh
Fixed
@limber field changed to opaque fixed it thanks dude
limber field
cool!
ruby dust
This isn’t Unity specific, but I was wondering how I could fix this weird normal map joining
Not to forget the very strange way they all put themselves together
One bright, one normal, and one dark
limber field
and show your UV's and normal map
ruby dust
Yeah, it’ll be a little bit
limber field
and your vert normals
acoustic river
Normal maybe reversed?
ruby dust
Alright, I’ll ping you guys once I have the images
No, it’s not reversed normals. It’s a near perfect gradient across the model from the sides, around the front, and to the shoulders.
jovial jetty
Anyone knows if the "Cavity" option (it's in spanish sorry) will make the effect of the edges permanent?
@ruby dust maybe you have extruded points and it's making that weird line
limber field
@ruby dust it mainly looks like you just have bad mapping, your textures and UV's don't match
@jovial jetty what do you mean permanent, you mean if it'll bake it into a texture?
jovial jetty
@limber field yes
limber field
I imagine yes, you'd have to bake right layer for that to be bake, is that a procedural cavity type deal?
acoustic river
@limber field Do you use PolyBrush?
limber field
you mean that thing in Unity, if so I haven't
acoustic river
try using it today since pro builder dont have painting any more
limber field
it looks cool, paint texture layers, models on the surface, sweet
acoustic river
Say you want to paint vertex on a plane should it have high subd?
acoustic river
Looking good
limber field
maybe it's the way it' swaying, catching the light more or less
acoustic river
is that a good thing?
limber field
it can be, but I am wondering why it's so harsh of a difference in the back area
but yeah, waving grass undulating is great
limber field
how many materials
well the slight seam you have on the lower back are due to there being no padding on your normal map
the upper body just doesn't look like it has the right material on it
when you bake your normal map from the source mesh, make sure you pad the bake by like 8 to 16 pixels per 1024 in resolution
ruby dust
@limber field I went over to color space options, and setting it to non-color corrected the seams for some reason
It's all 1 material, I know that
limber field
yeah, your texture for the normal should be set to
ruby dust
I'm currently still in Blender
limber field
haha, oh 🙂
ruby dust
I was trying to fix issues with it before I get it out and into something
limber field
for sure double check your materials, you might have 2
upper and lower, and the upper isn't using the material the lower is
ruby dust
I checked, I only have 1 material
I was messing with color space options, and non-color removed the seams
I had it on sRGB
limber field
oh cool
ruby dust
Though, I feel like I notice some detail loss, but that may be due to the difference in the way it reacts with the light
limber field
what do you mean, what is the resolution of the normal and textures?
ruby dust
Nope, testing rendered view, changing the color space to non-color fixed it perfectly
No, it was just that some detail seemed to disappear on his neck, but checking rendered view, it's definitely still there.
limber field
nice
ruby dust
It was because the light is now acting right with the normal
limber field
yeah, normals are math data, sRGB would mess with that pretty bad
acoustic river
@limber field hi i have a question on performance, i have a environment prop thats pretty large in scale but has 35k tris
would it lower the fps?
limber field
depends on a lot of things, like what you plan on shipping on (pc, console, mobile, vr, etc), and how large it is, it's needed detail, etc
35k is high but not horrible for a pc game, with LODs it should be performant though it might eat up some memory
acoustic river
yah when i am close to the model the frame is pretty high but when the model fits the screen my fps down
drops
what is the best tri range for environment prop?
limber field
does it have LODs?
again that range is dependent on size and need
if it's just a fencepost, it should be low, a building, high
can you show the asset compared to a human?
acoustic river
ill send you screen shot
limber field
cool
maiden tangle
Was it fixed 🤔
quasi forge
how do i change the texture of a specific side on a cube
quasi forge
any simple way to do so?
quasi forge
and how do i do that
last dirge
I tried to make a crouching system but uhh...
thick oak
anyone have a good workflow for creating clothing/equipment for characters? The weighting is terrible for certain pieces and it the animations look like poop because of it. Not sure if Im just missing something obvious lol
limber field
you are probably talking about the topology of your meshes you want to deform when skinned to a skeleton, what does that look like?
thick oak
this is with default weighting (had to rever to a previous save) I can get it to be somewhat okay, but theres still mesh tearing and I cant find the bone affecting it 😕
Annd upload failed?
😦
okay, can't share screenshots i guess...
limber field
well you'd have to open it up in max/maya/blender and fix the weighting or mesh
where is the asset from?
thick oak
Yeah im giving it another go. its self made
limber field
skinning is pretty rough to work with honestly, it takes time to get good at
there might be tools to auto-skin/weight, but usually it comes down to point by point sometimes
thick oak
Yeah its unfortunate. All the other aspects of 3D work im pretty decent with. ALthough I still hate laying out UV's. But this skinning thing is throwing me off haha
limber field
what app are you using?
thick oak
Im hoping to just make a bunch of generic meshes with weights, then add onto them
blender
limber field
haven't used blender honestly, hopefully there are some good tutorials for skin weighting
thick oak
there are plenty. And i guess i just need more practice at it. Its just sooo time consuming that I'm debating whether or not I should just change art styles all together lol
thick oak
Think thats the issue... I used the decimate function to reduce the poly count and it killed the armor's topo
guess its time to retopologize -_-
limber field
yeah, that will be a rough one
how dense was it before?
when you say 'tearing', do you literally mean the triangles are splitting apart, or just they are stretching bad
thick oak
lol 75k polys. I duped the chest/shoulders from the base mesh, subdivided and sculpted
just bad stretching
now that you mentioned the mesh... yeahh it needs to be redone
limber field
is that the sculpt mesh?
thick oak
That is the result of the sculpt mesh being decimated
Which I didn't save the initial form of 😦
limber field
doh
so yeah, just spend some time weighting, get used to how to smooth between joints (do like up to 4 per vert), etc, and you might want to optimize the fingers 🙂
thick oak
Yeah... this is why im thinking I may have to call an audible with my game. Im going for a roguelike/crpg blend. So items and item variants are important. If I have to weight each thing individually thats gonna be a no go. Now if I can make a base mesh. Like have all chest pieces share one, then just add to the geometry /retexture/etc... maybe I can make that work
lol i dunno exhales
limber field
well either way the skinning/weighting is the same, each piece will have to go through that process
you can transfer weights from the base body to the armor pieces to get a large way there, but you'll always have to hand do stuff to finish it off
thick oak
yeah thats what I did here. But the topo is throwing me off. Ill just give it another go tomorrow. And tbh, I think the chest will be the most difficult. Lots of possible deformations from the chest/abdomen/shoulders/neck/etc. Everything else is pretty straight forward
limber field
hard plate armor like that is tough as it shouldn't bend
it shifts and moves, but it also limits movement depending of the cut of the armor
which is tough as if you share animations between rogues and knights, rogues would be able to do some acrobatics where the knight would clip like crazy
thick oak
yeah true... i would probably have to create altered animations for everything if the character is wearing plate. hmm... boots up divinity to see how larian handles it
limber field
well you 'can' get away with clever skinning, animations and the form of the plates
you can add joints to help things 'slide' and shift property like shoulder plates/pads
just more animation to deal with unless you make it automatic in whatever animation tool you use (set driven keys etc).
thick oak
im hand animating everything in blender atm so it would be a big time sink
limber field
yeah, sadly sometimes there is no way around it 😮
that's why we have 50+ person sized teams to even small-ish games
and it's only going to get worse with each gen 😦
thick oak
Yeah. Unfortunately I built my entire code base around 3D and all of my features are planned that way. Debating whether or not I could go the Dont Starve route and do a 2.5D thing
limber field
yeah, unsure if going 2D would make things that much easier, depends on where your skillset is as an author
usually you just limit the scope to a point where what you 'want' to do is possible
thick oak
honestly I can crank out most things 3D in a relatively quick fashion. This is my first foray into skinning though and its kicking my ass 😛
limber field
heh
I'd stick with 3D then, you can figure this part out, even if it takes a while you can get things in the game to get other stuff done and figure it out later, as long as legs aren't falling off your characters and stuff like that
unless it's a zombie knight
thick oak
lol its not a bug, its a feature
limber field
I worked on plenty of players losing legs, zombies, etc, totally a feature
muted sonnet
yes it is
sullen plank
@eager mist This is not a #⛰️┃terrain-3d channel. Again, stop spamming. You can find terrain tutorials on Unity Learn site.
sullen plank
!mute 706260707234152498 60 These are not a casual chat channels.
lilac edgeBOT
! orang#6969 was muted
tawny holly
he just asked a question?
tacit mesa
he spammed his question crosschannel
spark vigil
hey any good texture resource?
example for making a strike thorugh
or grain effect
bricks
etc
exotic stump
This is gonna sound crazy buuuut ... using URP can I get 2d AND 3d lighting working at the same time? Using the 2d renderer 3 lighting appears to get turned off, using the 3d renderer 2d gets disabled.
sullen plank
Sites like https://opengameart.org have free art resources (always check individual licensing)
spark vigil
thanks
whole fog
I am gonna make a quick humanoid model for use as test for a prototype I had in mind. this is the head
wondering how should I approach the body
Its kinda meant to be a wolf of sorts
You think I have the right idea for ears?
eager mist
Anyone know how to fix this?
First time using unity and my friend gave me this to test on
mighty hound
looks like its missing textures.
last dirge
yup ask him for the .mat file
sudden bobcat
Where can I find transparent volume lights or volumetric light assets? I've looked through OpenGameArt.org because that's the only place I know but I don't think there's any. What do you recommend?
I found the Aura asset in the Asset Store but I that's more of a complete environment system whereas I'm looking for a simple cone-like asset for a single object.
errant plover
If you need volumetric lighting, consider switching to HDRP?
sudden bobcat
Thank you! I'll try that on future projects. I'm just starting out so I was looking for faster/simpler solutions.
errant plover
#archived-lighting channel might have an answer. Most of us stick to one channel lol.
eager viper
Hello I wanna know how to import character model in unity? Is it need to download import program or anything else?
boreal rapids
What would be the best method to achieve these realistic grass layers on a large terrain size
limber field
I imagine that is a model and not terrain?
limber field
do you have materials made yet?
limber field
yes, and the other slots like Normal if you have them, etc
lime sinew
when i drag a material onto the track though
it just covers the whole track
and not the intended area
limber field
I imagine the track just has a single material slot on it, show the inspector for the track
lime sinew
yeah
i was watching this video and wanting to give it a go
but he doesnt show how he ads the tradck in
so im a bit lost tbh
theres an object for the track and just a bunch of pngs
this is where i got the track
limber field
you'll need to take that model into a 3d package and break up the model into how many materials you need
lime sinew
break the model up?
ahh
thatd take forever
maybe ill just use a simple track
its odd that they have a resource for the track but its not ready to use
or is it easier than im imagining
limber field
weird it came as one entire model
no collision, etc
there is a lot of work you'd have to do to get that in order
lime sinew
would i be better off using this
just found this
it seems like everythings already broken up and materials slot in nicely
would i be correcT?
limber field
you'd have to find out, it 'says' it has 19 materials
wary eagle
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/rAlK5L PSO-1 done!
dapper gyro
Is anyone aware of an (easy) way to “de-atlas” a texture atlas + materials beyond remapping by hand?
spark vigil
how many professional 3D modeler or asset maker here?
limber field
@dapper gyro doubt it, and though you could write one in blender or other 3D apps, that shouldn't take you too long to do in a 3D app and photoshop, how many sections on the atlas?
dapper gyro
It’s around 8-12 textures if I remember right, but tens of individual models
It’ll probably easier to just copy/paste over the atlas I suppose
limber field
yeah, scale and move the UV's so they are 0 to 1, etc, check to see if there is a script in blender though, my search came up empty but I didn't try too hard
@wary eagle that's good stuff, I think if you were to do anything, tighten up shine and lower the pattern strength, looking at images of that same gun with the same patterning it looks to have a lot more gloss painted on it
dapper gyro
Will do, thanks!
drifting basin
doesnt really belong here but nobody is responding in the blender server so does anyone know how to make these spikes in blender?
errant plover
@dapper gyro show us what you are trying to do. We may have a better solution
@drifting basin Make a plane. Subdivide it like 6 or 8 times. Enable Proportional Editing with Randomizer and Connected on. Then grab the center vert and drag it up. Mouse wheel to change the scale. Add another plane, repeat. Not too sure how the damage on the faces is done.
floral pendant
hey guys i imported a model which i modelled in maya,but i'm getting this weird black effect
tight meadow
Is there any way to make a mesh in unity rendered from both sides?
Possibly without having to duplicate vertices/triangles
glacial vector
yes, you just need a material that does not cull back faces
dapper gyro
@errant plover I have X number of meshes that share a texture atlas. I want to "break" this apart so that each texture from the texture atlas is a material, and each material applies to the correct mesh part, rather than a single UV mapping over a single texture
tight meadow
Does one such material come with URP?
stark radish
does anyone want to help on a game with 14 people we need an animator dm me
errant plover
@dapper gyro why?
dapper gyro
Multiple reasons. Replace textures with higher quality than atlas is, use different shaders on different parts, etc.
random ledge
what's a good place to start when learning to use blender
glacial vector
The default lit shader lets you do this @tight meadow
errant plover
@random ledge Watch this guys 10 minute speed runs.
https://www.youtube.com/c/Imphenzia/featured
bright field
is there a built in way to get the vector that points up from a gameobject and that rotates along with the gameobject when it rotates
or do you need to make that yourself
ah i think transform.up is what i need
limber field
@floral pendant you get anywhere with your model issues?
tame wind
not quite sure if this is the right channel, but how would I go about getting a human model into unity that can have its joints realistically bend? For example, you grab the person in VR and drag one of their limbs downward to the floor, their limbs realistically bend so that the part of the body that you are holding stays in the same rotation and position you drag it to
this is probably really difficult to do and im not sure if its the best approach
please @ me with a response, any help would be greatly appreciated
floral pendant
@limber field no
glacial vector
FinalIK is the asset that's most commonly used for VR @tame wind, I recommend looking at that
tame wind
does it cost money
oh god its like 90 usd
man i do not have access to money atm, im a student
and also cant work ebcause pandemic
glacial vector
Yep. There are other assets as well, but it's the best one. It's really hard to do
glacial vector
If you look around for VR IK rigs you might be able to find something free
dreamy hull
I am trying to make an animated sprite sheet display around my object, but I dont really know how to approach this, I cant seem to find any videos on it either
should I use a particle? should I use a sprite? I am not sure, I have never done thing before
this is the end goal I am trying to achieve
mental bay
anyone to recommend me a guide for starting unity 3d
stark radish
Hey! We need A programmer who's good at what they do, who also have Unity Collab. 3D Modelers are also welcome (Please use Blender). DM me if interested! Here's some of our work!
limber field
@dreamy hull probably a combination of a particle effect for the small stars/dots, and a billboard sprite for the 'glow', that will sort behind the die, that is if it's a 3D game
blissful relic
Hey! We need A programmer who's good at what they do, who also have Unity Collab. 3D Modelers are also welcome (Please use Blender). DM me if interested! Here's some of our work!
I don't think this channel is for advertising
small aurora
How much more difficult would you say 3D development is vs 2D?
errant plover
Depends on your current skill set. If you are new to both. 3D is more man hours. 2D is more reliant on your abilities to draw.
limber field
2D is more subjective with the style which can be much harder to nail down conceptually as a lot more of 3D is realistically styled, though there is stylized 3D art, just much more in 2D
still solar
@dreamy hull, there was a youtube video about Portal effects that might be of interest, it had animated texture tutorial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUq2fsL-gRs Maybe it is helpful for you 🙂 good luck
runic mulch
hello folks I'm create 3d game assets for free.
Enjoy!
unique ermine
Good day guys!
Im just a beginner in 3D Modeling. Quick question how can I make this two objects to one mesh. I created a cylinder over a box and tried attaching it.
glacial vector
If you've joined the objects they already are one mesh. To the right you have the UVs of the object, which are fine being disconnected like that
vestal dew
Does anyone know if there's a low-poly library for modular, frame-based robots? Imagine something like Gunpla frames without the armor pieces
unique ermine
If you've joined the objects they already are one mesh. To the right you have the UVs of the object, which are fine being disconnected like that
@glacial vector Thank you!!!
cyan condor
any chance i could get some blender help please?
fluid oak
@dreamy hull A particle or a sprite would each work for that.
dreamy hull
@fluid oak I appreciate not reading my issue.
@still solar I will check it out, thanks
fluid oak
@dreamy hull Sorry that I don't have any convenient tutorials to pull out of my ass. Should I have not answered the part of your question I had an answer for?
sleek spear
Hey guys, Im not sure which font looks better, the overall environment is a modern lab, react below, let me know which one should I choose
fluid oak
@sleek spear For that sort of use, maybe a stencil font?
Neither of those quite look right to me; the first one is closer in terms of style, certainly.
sleek spear
oh right, something like the first one but with the painting scratches that stencil fonts have, right?
fluid oak
sleek spear
nice
fluid oak
Like, there probably won't be a bunch of scratches or anything up on the high wall like that
But someone still spraypainted it through a stencil
sleek spear
Right
limber field
a modern lab wouldn't have something stencil spray painted on the wall, it'd have something cleanly panted or some sticker for the text
fluid oak
@Redotix99#1308 And really not sure what your issue is; just a basic particle system defaults to doing most of what you need(billboard orientation).
@limber field I dunno about that. A lot depends on how cheap they are.
sleek spear
thx for the input :)
glacial vector
There are tons of resources pinned to #💻┃unity-talk. Start with some of the courses at Unity Connect
robust mantle
Sort of newb with 3D modelling, but I'm interested in what opinions you guys have about this question:
Let's say I have a mesh with surface details. I can create that mesh in a watertight way so that the details are integrated into the mesh itself, or I could create the details by adding the detail meshes close to or intersecting the main mesh.
Which is, from a general perspective better?
Lets also say that the details have a very sparse or nonexistant amount of triangles that won't be rendered, so no polygons facing inside the mesh where they can't be viewed.
Lets further assume that I won't be doing any mesh collisions, or if I do, then they will be handled through built in colliders or a stand-in.
glacial vector
Surface details are usually not handled with polygons, but with a normal map
robust mantle
Good catch!
glacial vector
If you do have shape-defining details then you could model it out, but in this case you would want to use LODs which means you remove that detail when you're not close to the object
robust mantle
How about slightly larger details, think chair legs, periscopes, perhaps a hatch for a tank.
Where a normal map would be silly, but modelling those details into the mesh in a manifold way would require greater amount of work keeping the topology clean.
glacial vector
Chair leg is a good example of where you would use LODs. Close up, nice and smooth curves. Further away, just a cube
robust mantle
Mainly thinking about the workflow, adding a cylinder and duplicating it 4 times in order to create the legs is (for me) many times faster than working the topology of a cube in 4 separate places in order to create the necessary circles required to extrude a cylinder..
It should also save triangles, since there won't be as many faces.
Lets further say that I create some really cool lamp or machine gun that I want to re-use in future projects or other parts of the same project, creating these details as a separate mesh is more re-usable, since otherwise I'd have to somehow extract that particular geometry and somehow glue it into a new model.
errant plover
Make one leg, linked duplicate it three times. Do not extrude it unless you absolutely need the lighting data, in that area, for some close up shot. Like an Ikea photo.
robust mantle
Good call, that makes sense.
runic sluice
How to make the texture not terrible and look like 1 object?
limber field
2 ways, fix the UV's or do World Space Mapping https://cyangamedev.wordpress.com/2020/01/28/worldspace-uvs-triplanar-mapping/
unique ermine
Hi guys!
How can merge textures from substance painter into one image file (for albedo, roughness, normal etc)
fluid oak
@robust mantle Unity doesn't really need watertight meshes, and modern GPUs can often handle far more triangles than you'd think. Even when using normal maps, having 'floating' polygons used as decals are very common.
@unique ermine Photoshop can do that pretty easily. I am surprised that substance doesn't let you do that.
unique ermine
@fluid oak I found this combiner from gumroad
https://gumroad.com/l/TextureSetCombiner
I tried using and it works!
junior stone
@unique ermine how are you gonna pack albedo and normal, which both have 3 required channels into one texture?
unless its a b/w image, its not happening rly
roughness, metallic and AO sure. But normal and albedo you cant, you need all 3 channels. Best you can do is pack the roughness in the alpha channel of the albedo
fluid oak
Normal only needs 2 channels
junior stone
how do you draw that conclusions? @fluid oak
fluid oak
Because if you have two components of a normalized vector, there is only one mathematically possible third value.
limber field
you can rebuild a normal in the shader, not advisable though, expensive from what I know
junior stone
the direction of the light bouncing on a pixel of the mesh and encoding into the texture is a vector3, Im curious how you can pack that into 2 channels
fluid oak
The three channels of a tangent space normal map have to equal one.
Basically, the total length of the vector is a known value.
junior stone
do you rly wanna save 1/3 of the storage space to compute the entire third component of your normal map tho?
fluid oak
Unity already does it. Look up 'packed normals'
limber field
actually you save 1/2 if you go from RGB for normal and A for say height, to RG for normal and B for height
fluid oak
This is how dxt5 compression works.
But yeah, it does take more processing, so it is a tradeoff.
limber field
but I wouldn't want to put that kind of pressure on the shader
junior stone
I would much rather store it than bloat the shader for it
fluid oak
What do you think the 'convert to normal map' button in unity does?
limber field
usually you can find other single channel stuff to pack
fluid oak
Anyway, I'm not saying it is the right thing to do for every/most uses.
junior stone
AO, roughness and metallic are prime candidates imo
limber field
MRA we use, we used to use RMA, but roughness does better in the G channel
junior stone
I have seen people pack scifi stuff textures in channels interestingly
the texture looks weird as hell at the end haha
junior stone
just the monocolor scifi looking things
junior stone
either fugly or a fkton of work to get it right
limber field
I've done the thing where you take a color image and you break it down into a luminance map (greyscale, just the brightness values), and the actual hue values, then you can recombine those in the shader pretty cheaply, and the hue texture can be like 1/4th or more the size and still look good when recombined, then you can have up to 16 color variants with near pixel control for the price of one
you lose a bit of fidelity, but unless you pixel !@#$ it, you can't tell 🙂
fluid oak
I work almost entirely in 2d
junior stone
I've mostly been doing atlassed low poly stuff. One texture with square colors. But recently I've been trying my hand at handpainting.
spark vigil
how do i open fbx in blender?
limber field
just Import it
spark vigil
ascii
lol
used the preview exporter changed to binary and imported this is how it looks
@limber field
limber field
rigged assets are a whole 'nother story, where did you get the file?
limber field
there just might be some steps to importing an fbx into blender
spark vigil
kinda wanted to check her
limber field
some parameters, etc
not familiar with blender, but maybe the orientation of it is different and you'll have to configure blender to work with it
fluid oak
I think the blender looks better, at least for a monster 😄
limber field
all you have to have is the joint order shift 1 and you can get some sweet monstrosities
spark vigil
i tried another model it worked
for some reason t hat model screwed
this is why i like 2D
get darn png or jpeg and done
🙂
ok it worked
i had to convert it to obj
easy fix
no texture or materials on it though
limber field
always something 🙂
shrewd mortar
Hi guys i'm developing a 3d mobile game and i am working with a designer who is asking me a question that i can't really answer. He is designing me a scene with a lava floor that moves and asks the following question: I have a question.
To be smart about the materials, I think I would be better to make the map be a shader in engine but I don't know if that would be a good use of resources. in that way I would use a shader as an smart material, with masks and do the geometry of the map. and the textures for the shader, That way the floor can have smaller textures, but I am not sure.
eager mist
How can I make a character fit something like a car seat? When I make my character and place him on my car seat to drive or something, his legs are too short
eager mist
make a different model visible when in the car then when he gets out make that model not visible
@leaden garden
only take some if statements and some hard work
limber quest
Hello, I am a computer-assisted animator student and I do a lot of different drawings. If you are going to make a game I can give you my drawings for free contact: discord
This is my drawing
willow flame
Somehow, whenever I add an asset to Unity, the game's camera locks on it and out of the character
Wonder if anyone here knows why
glacial vector
Are you importing your assets with cameras?
willow flame
Wait
Yeah, I am. Lemme try to remove it and add it again.
It worked! Thank you, @glacial vector
lucid dust
some1 help me pls
when i try to export my package as a obj and put it in a project it repeat the name 3 times, its possible to change for it be like the fbx version?
errant plover
@eager mist show us the entire model. I have no idea whats going on there.
@lucid dust why not export as FBX?
maiden tangle
@spark vigil yeah it only knows to import the mesh, it has no idea where the assigned texture is in your project and how it related to the imported mesh. Has to be manually made in the material tab in blender 🙂
spark vigil
ohk
i got sdome assets from asset store
kind of wanted to check those models to inspect
maiden tangle
yeah I recognize them nice find, enjoy!
I love taking models and remaking them in my own texture style, saves time and gets me to the fun part of design lol.
limber quest
i hope rifle has beatiful
cloud latch
limber field
where would Matt Damon be in that image?
modest imp
Hello, so I've literally just started with materials and uv mapping, and I have like an example model
I want to edit the UV map because it's a bit low res and outdated
Are there rules I should follow?
For example, it has like shading on it? When I'd probably like to do materials for it instead?
Or what is the relationship between materials and a UV map
limber field
pixels are mapped directly to the model via the UV's, so you can't change UV's and still have the existing textures work
you'd have to do a texture transfer from one model to another with different uvs
if you don't want to use any textures, just shading you don't really need proper UVs, though it would help to have regional color changes on the model if it shares the same material (or you'd break it up into several materials for the different colored parts)
modest imp
So essentially, if you have a UV map, you're stuck with one material the whole thing uses basically?
Is it better to just have different materials for different parts of my robot, then assign those materials to faces or something?
limber field
what is your final goal here?
you generally want as few materials as possible for performance
so if you can get what you want with a single material on the asset that's better
modest imp
I seeee
I guess overall, to learn how it works
But I want to make the robot shiny in some places, matte in others
And then obviously transfer it to Unity to play around with how it would look there too
you generally want as few materials as possible for performance
this is understandable though
limber field
you can paint smoothness and metalness maps, what render pipeline are you using? @modest imp
lusty grotto
https://gyazo.com/4cae9cbb3e866414981bda4bb153a96c
how do i join this or should i just redo this hand
every time i try to fill or merge vertices it leaves a hard black crease and i assume taht due to the difference in polys
limber field
vertex normals actually, just re-smooth the normals
lusty grotto
thank yoU!
lusty grotto
sorry to ask again how do i smooth normals :' )
i checked google it wasnt super helpful
oh nvm i found it
limber field
cool, are you using Blender?
modest imp
you can paint smoothness and metalness maps, what render pipeline are you using? @modest imp
@limber field apologies, I went to sleep since Im in the UK, but I've just moved onto URP. Essentially, this my first project where I've really exploring these aspects such as lighting and materials
If I paint smoothness and metalness maps, won't it look "baked"?
limber quest
hello this is my new weapon with uv map I hope it has been good
junior stone
@limber quest looks great but the lighting seems a bit wonky
limber quest
@junior stone you are right my friend
limber quest
I tried to light it with sunlight
@junior stone
Which lighting setting do you think I should use?
junior stone
I would say 3 point lighting
limber quest
well i am trying
limber field
@modest imp unsure what you mean by baked
basically it'll just make those pixels be shinier or metallic or both, using URP the standard lit shader has those options
limber field
@limber quest looks like your vert normals are not setup right
limber quest
I realized I was already struggling with it but thanks for your clean it up
limber field
yeah, those can be hard, if you are in blender you can do the harden edge that usually has a degree where it will harden the edges (do a soften before)
modest imp
@modest imp unsure what you mean by baked
@limber field surely if there's like darker spots on a uv map, those places are predisposed to be darker in any lighting?
Unless I'm misunderstanding what else a uv map does
limber field
well I think we are getting terms crossed, UV mapping has no bearing on dark/light unless the textures you apply to the model are mapped that way as the texture is what uses to UV's to know where on the model to be placed
what do your UV's look like on your model, is it what you showed in that texture?
all you should do is use the standard lit URP material, and paint the textures for the different parts of the shader
this one, as you can see you can give a texture that is a metallic greyscale, where white = metal and black = non-metal, and then put the gloss/smoothness map in the alpha of that same texture, where white = smooth and black = matte
modest imp
what do your UV's look like on your model, is it what you showed in that texture?
@limber field Yeah they look like this, I'm was thinking that surely it's like "baked" shininess and shadows in there that'd make it look weird?
limber field
yeah, that texturing is to fake it
modest imp
Ahhh okay cool, so I don't want this
limber field
but you can use that as a base, paint some flatter colors, make a metallic and smoothness map and it'd look cool
modest imp
Okay I see
limber field
well you'll keep the UV's just paint some textures
modest imp
I think something just clicked in my head
UV refers to the actual model unwrapped
And the texture is the image on it
... sorry LOOOL
Okay okay
limber field
hah
modest imp
Yeah so, I can probably make the texture on there flat colour, and then I can use materials properly
Apologies, I'm super new to this stuff
limber field
yeah, experiment with some texturing values for the metallic/smoothness, replace the diffuse/basecolor with just some flat colors ,and see what you get
you have a normal map?
modest imp
No?
modest imp
Is that for like, roughness, where you have the noise for it?
Ahh I see, I just googled some
limber field
well unity does 'smoothness' which is opposite 🙂
roughness is 0 = shiny, 1 = matte, where smoothness is 0 = matte, 1 = shiny
dusty ridge
how do I setup the scene so my canvas is drawn "ontop" of a 3d volume/area?
modest imp
I seee
Well thank you for your help, rocinante, I think I understand it all a lot better now
I'm gonna work on this texture then
Since this robot looks like its from 2007 with the fake lighting
limber field
good luck @modest imp
fluid oak
@modest imp Specifically, UV map is just two extra coordinates attached to each vertex. So you have x,y,z position in space, then u,v texture position.
rigid pelican
thorny wasp
Where would i look if im wanting to get some folded clothes? like the ones you'd find in a draw or wardrobe
@ me if you know please
thorny wasp
i would absolutely sit on this my ass would be in heaven
unkempt yoke
😂😂 heaven might split open, there’s no cross section between the legs 🤫
eager mist
@limber quest what do u model in?
limber quest
weapon,car,tower,etc
eager mist
what program do u use lol
limber field
you use three 3D apps?
you use one for modelling, one for other stuff?
@limber quest that gun looks good, though it seems like you still have issues with your normals, or you might want to harden with a better angle, or look into face weighted normals if you want to do such low poly
limber quest
I'm trying to fix it, but it doesn't work, it is going out somewhere. Can you help me? @limber field
limber quest
Can I show tomorrow, I need to sleep now I will go to class tomorrow my brother is a game maker so I am taking lessons @limber field
limber field
sure
limber field
not bad @muted fjord , what level of realism are you after with this asset?
muted fjord
not too much
dusty ridge
How to I keep a canvas "on top" of everything else in a 3d scene?
fluid oak
render it with a different camera
dusty ridge
@fluid oak so the first camera (for the 3D scene) renders to texture, which is dislayed as part of the canvas for the 2nd camera?
cloud nimbus
Created a bunch of low poly guns for practice
muted fjord
those look sick
cloud nimbus
Thanks
tight meadow
Dunno if this is the right place, but can anyone guess why this is happening? I'm implementing naive surface nets, so the mesh is generated at runtime. The little blank squares on the left and bottom halves have their faces flipped the other direction, and lighting seems to be super wierd
The grid like blank lines are intentional, sort of
If I set the material to not cull back faces it looks like this. Again, super wierd lighting
wide wasp
Are you setting tangents/normals?
tight meadow
I fixed the super weird lighting, it was a normals issue
The holes in the middle is still a thing for some reason
Its probably a math problem
How exactly does unity determine which faces are front and which are back?
muted fjord
wip
errant plover
@tight meadow Its based on the order of the triangles. Set it in your modeling software.
coral hemlock
Blender question! I have a lovely quad with equidistant edges like this:
I want to shift the edges so that they are closer together towards one end of the mesh, and further apart at the other edge. Is there some name for that and/or easy way to accomplish it?
eager mist
@limber quest what does the gun look in a with just normal grey( matcap) shading?
i think ur normals are all outta wack
like show me in blenders view port on "solid"
@coral hemlock i dont really understand ur question, can u draw it out ?
something like this?
coral hemlock
does this help?
imagine they are actually even on the left
but what i want is like 'faces of incrementally ascending size, based on how far along the mesh they are', i guess?
I can almost do it with proportional editing, but i want the overall length to stay the same
i guess i could just do that, make it much longer, and then just scale it back down to size but it feels imprecise
eager mist
yeah using proportional editing("O") is ur best bet, if u really wanted this done it should be by hand, and if u want both side to be consistent, (if were trying to do this with top and bottom) then just throw a mirror modifier on it
coral hemlock
ok thanks, i'll keep at it
limber quest
I am studying computer-aided design and animators, I do lots of drawings and train it if you need a drawing I can give it for free
eager mist
@limber quest the LP is a little to High poly, for something like this thats so small and used quite often, u wanna be careful of poly count
the SubD model looks nice though
🙂
limber quest
thanks
errant plover
@coral hemlock what is your end result? As it is right now, there is no difference between those two planes.
coral hemlock
@errant plover you mean in the drawing? i didn't do a great job representing, but on the left the edges are evenly spaced, whereas on the right they become progressively closer together
errant plover
And why?
coral hemlock
I'm deforming based on a curve and need more geometry towards one end since it curves more
errant plover
Im so confused. You are trying to make a curve from a plane?
half citrus
just finished some new crates (the cylinder shaped ones)
https://i.imgur.com/awo9vao.png
limber field
@coral hemlock, does blender have a soft select?
maya has this, if you select the edge where you want them to come closer like this
you can then scale and get close to what you want
half citrus
it's proportional edit in blender, hit the o hotkey
coral hemlock
@limber field I can do a proportional scale, but it moves the 'edges' as well, rather than scaling within them.
coral hemlock
it's not really clear to me what's happening in maya there -- what's selected?
limber field
the left two points are selected in maya
then you expand the radius of the selection
coral hemlock
yeah sounds similar to proportional edit. I can probably record something, hang on
limber field
@half citrus what are you modelling and texturing in?
half citrus
with proportional edit, first scale it up, and then select the end point, hit o, and mousewheel up until to make the area of effect bigger, and then slide it back in place
at least that's what I would do O.o
limber field
or download Maya 😛
coral hemlock
@half citrus yeah that approach roughly works but doesn't feel very precise
half citrus
eh, that's what I'm used to, blender is always just "good enough" 😄
limber field
use Houdini and make the mesh procedurally, then after that you can make the big bux in the graphics industry!
coral hemlock
yeah, I feel like if I knew anything about blender scripting it would probably be trivial to use math to space out some edges along a plane like that
but it doesn't really matter, it just felt like the sort of thing that might have a name i didn't know, or some clever method i was missing
(thanks for the help btw) 👍
spark vigil
anyone using blender here?
i wanted to know how can i have my model exported as png transparent image
to be used as 2D game asset
in 2D image editiing software i just use export as png and check transparent
how do i same thing in blender?
half citrus
if you go into your render settings, and go to film and check the box for transparent
and make sure you're exporting with the alpha channel
here's a video showing how to do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFfWX7aFsms
spark vigil
the title of that video was unclear
to me it meanth how do i use transparent images in blender
thanks 🙂
now i can use my blender assets as 2D props
thanks @half citrus
flint hull
meh
limber field
looks like you have some duped faces on the back of the gun top
limber quest
How is my new house modeling?
half citrus
looks good, I'd slide furniture off of perfect angles to make it look more natural, but that's just me
also, lighting can really improve the look of models. this looks like just a single point in the middle of the room
limber quest
ok
limber field
you should take larger images, but that looks pretty good, just remember to dive deeper into materials and add a good amount of imperfections, especially on things that get a lot of traffic
small aurora
if you are going to use the HDRP, do you need to select that template from the beginning or can you start with just selecting '3D'
from the splash screen
limber field
template or add the package yourself through the package manager
small aurora
thanks!
sleek spear
i modelled this door but when I import it, the side faces go missing, as you can see
does anybody have a suggestion?
limber field
probably flipped, you see them when you rotate around?
rigid pelican
eager mist
is there a way to create a texture for a oddly shaped item, so that the texture wraps around it and stuff, sort of like 6 sides of a cube, instead of just 1 material and it repeating all over the object in small areas
for instance, minecraft armor, like how do i make a material like that for an object
in the way its mapped to 1 png
limber field
those are what UVs are for
eager mist
i see, ty, never really messed with any of the material settings so i have no clue what im doing or what i need to do, so ty
blissful crag
hello
fluid oak
Hi
thorn juniper
Does anyone know how it is possible that my normal map looks good in the editor but when you play the game it is inverted all of a sudden?
Y is correctly inverted as you can see in editor (Top picture)
I can't figure out why it's behaving like this. And on Google they only talk about the normal maps when importing, OpenGL and DirectX
Which i kept into account when importing it
i just think it's something with game settings so i turned off Vertex optimization off and mesh generation as well in Player settings. But no luck
Anyone?
I did a Mirror test with this with simple cubes, but test came out fine as well and all normals looked good, i really am stuck about how this is possible and what will fix it.
Today i played with the import settings of my model, switched to culculated, iport Mikktspace etc. But none of them has the effect on it
I also duplicated the texture and set the normal to -1 to and applied it to the inverted objects, strangely it doesnt apply it
spark vigil
btw so what u guys do in modelling software?
just make the models and bring to unity
after that use unity shaders and textures
also the materials inside unity?
glacial vector
Yes
thorn juniper
Unity has no textures
Photoshop or a texture application
And you also create the UV's of the model/asset in your 3D Application
Materials and Shaders are mostly done in Unity
glacial vector
Ray I see the difference in your images but I'm not so sure the normal map is the issue. The normal map at least seems the same to me. Have you done a test without the normal map applied?
spark vigil
wish all these 3D formats settles down
its like 2D image formats back then
so basically m wasting my time texturing and shading in blender if I plan to use it in unity
how about the animations?
best inside unity again?
oh well too much work
back to 2D
thorn juniper
@glacial vector, Well, the effect that I'm getting is that the direction of the normals are inverted on playMode. The model looks good without the normal map, but the details come with the normal map, so you won't see the difference if you don't apply it to the model.
@spark vigil Animations are also done in a 3D package and imported into unity to use with the Animation/Animator
However you can download pre-made animations at Mixamo.com to use in Unity. If you upload your model in there there's also a possibility to convert a rig for your character
spark vigil
are all the 3D things fighting with each other or something?
thorn juniper
Not sure what you mean....?
spark vigil
they should just settle down like SI
glacial vector
They're just different tools, competition is healthy
spark vigil
yeah different tools
but for 2D any tool
there is png export done
now we can use anywhere we like no headache
glacial vector
From your screenshots @thorn juniper you can see a difference, but the difference is the light direction, not the normal format. If the normals were inverted it would look liek it was going outwards
spark vigil
wish that was the case with 3D too