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[potent wraith]

No?

I only see sprite renderer and colliders

[frosty quiver]

sorry im clueless, but i figure you mean this

[potent wraith]

Oh yeah, I didn't notice it. Sorry.

[frosty quiver]

no worries

[potent wraith]

So, you see how it references the controller that is part of the asset?

[frosty quiver]

yes

and that's immutable?

[potent wraith]

Yes

You can create a new animator controller drag it into the animator and modify it as much as you want.

[frosty quiver]

just did that and its working, thank you!

[potent wraith]

Might be able to actually duplicate the one on the asset too. Not sure about it.

[frosty quiver]

yeah that was my next question, if there's a way to copy as opposed to re-enter everything

while I have you, should I be doing the same with the entire object/sprite frames? Or is there a way to refresh if I add another frame to the original file and want to get it into unity?

[potent wraith]

You could try using prefab variants.🤔

Probably not much you can do without some custom import code.

[frosty quiver]

I guess I’m surprised I can’t find more documentation/discussion online since unity went thru the trouble of make an asesprite editor and asesprite is seemingly pretty popular

I’m not exactly sure what the happy path is supposed to be since what you import isn’t really what you’re supposed to use 1-1

Mainly I just don’t want to have to redo the entire unity portion if I add a single frame in asesprite to an existing file

[potent wraith]

I know literally nothing about asesprite, but I guess the expectation is either to use the asset as is or create your animations entirely in unity.🤷‍♂️

[wraith loom]

Heya, guys, can you guide me to a tutorial or a solution that would use GPU instancing to place grass and stuff on objects that AREN'T Unity's Terrain object? I'm not sure yet if I won't be assembling my levels outside of Unity.
I only found one solution which uses a c# script to just place the instance at every vertex, but IDK how efficient it is (and I want more density-based solution anyway), I wonder if there's option where you could just apply a material to any mesh and it would spawn grass automatically, or something like this.

[pulsar nebula]

thanks for the response.
Yeah I did carry over the textures in a folder with the model file, tried to port them together into unity but it only put some of the textures on materials.
I had to create a script that stores textures in a dictionary then an editor function to find each material name as key for texture Dictionary which did work but seems like an ugly work around.

The Fbx does export properly with textures with smaller object, maybe there are too many materials :\

[misty lantern]

How many?
There's also an option to embed textures before export, and unpack them after import

[pulsar nebula]

Quite a bit as its a Source map , I'm testing with TF2 map right now (trying to port my old maps from source into unity)

also tried that Copy button which does work for some FBX but not this one for some reason

[misty lantern]

Ah, ripping issues

[pulsar nebula]

no trying to do any copyright infringement this is strictly testing. I need my maps in unity as I suck mapping in Probuilder 😅
it does work in blender though , must be something wrong in unity

[misty lantern]

I can empathize with the kind of weird challenges you face when ripping assets, but they're kinda outside of the purview of game development
You could get levels with less troubleshooting by simply making them in Blender yourself
ProBuilder is recommended only for rough greyboxing

[pulsar nebula]

tried that.
blender is like probuilder and difficult to make maps on for me as its based on extruding/working with edges + faces.
I prefer Brush Based , i come from TrenchBoom/Hammer.

I'm just wondering why it would not work in unity with such variation in materials :\ only for some materials it worked assigning texture

after running my custom script though

guess I'm on my own for the stigma of doing something outside of unity 🤷‍♂️ I just prefer making my maps in a different software and happens to be owned by valve lol

[misty lantern]

If you use your own assets that could be a viable workflow

[pulsar nebula]

yeah ofc I plan on texturing with my own textures from Textures.com & models will be from sketchfab.com
I was just worrying that tranferring over so many textures/materials would yield same result

hmm perhaps I need to give another try to probuilder if it does create a problem. or just use my script to asssign textures manually

[eager mist]

Hi! Im a newbie to unity and I have a few questions about importing trees from blender into unity (they don't have any colour). I ve looked everywhere online and couldn't find anything helpful. I tried making a separate material but it does not correspond with a tree, extract them, re import, literally everything but it's not working. Please help me out

[near goblet]

This might seem like a dumb question but do you know the fundamendals of using Blender (like swapping between colored/grayed view etc. and whatever other features they have)?

Because you could have the setting on where you don't view any colors

Or textures idk

[eager mist]

I did not use blender ever before but i tought since i downloaded the trees and they have everything they need in there i could just use them like that, also strange is that in both blender and unity, i only have this part coloured

[near goblet]

So the model did successfully import into Unity the same way it was in Blender?

[eager mist]

yep

[near goblet]

Then it's an issue with either the file or the texture settings (don't really know anything else because it's been a while since I worked on a 3d game)

[eager mist]

when i import the full folder, the leaves gets the first 3 materials i have in the folder (and they don't correspond), i saw that people are having some problems also, but never found a solution 😦

[near goblet]

I guess if that's a free model tree then you could just look around for a similar model and use it instead

Because this is prolly an error made by the creator of the tree

[glacial vector]

In unity just import the textures and create the materials you need

[near goblet]

But shouldn't the materials be already assigned when it's imported? (and he said that the brown part of the tree had colors so)

[glacial vector]

The materials will be assigned but there's no guarantee that they will be set up with the correct colour and textures

That depends on how it was exportd

[near goblet]

Right. But from my knowledge the materials should be the same way as they were in blender

[glacial vector]

That depends on how they're set up in blender

In the import settings you can apply the materials you want in unity you want in the different slots

[near goblet]

Makes sense

[eager mist]

ok after like 4 hours of trying to do it right......... it's the trees, i imported a chair from a different creator and it work just fine -.-

[unborn saddle]

Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way to generate a depth map for 2d scenery that's not prerendered? Almost all resources I can find about using depth maps assume your scene is prerendered from 3D and can just export the depth map, but my scene is pixel art. The only other resources I can find are depth map generators that are more for photos and way too inaccurate to be used for what I need. To specify I have buildings and other objects with somewhat complex geometry that isn't easy to just generate by hand like I would if I were working with things like cubes/walls. Here is an example of a scene I need to have a depth map for:

[misty lantern]

What you're asking for is not directly possible
You need some data, like a 3D mesh, to generate from
A drawn image doesn't really have any of that
You might be able to use meshes with color references to get the height values for drawing them on the sprite, but at that point it'd be much more practical to work directly off of a mesh
There are options for rendering geometry "pixel art" style in terms of colors and outlines

[unborn saddle]

I actually do have meshes made as that was my first method I went with but I find it hard to align the meshes exactly with the pixels(since this will be used for layering a pixel off means weird issues like the player being rendered behind a wall + a single pixel of floor if that's how the mesh aligns)

[verbal cedar]

Does unity have any built in runtime sprite cropping tools? E.g. say you have a sprite padded with transparency, is there a way to crop it down to the minimum size to contain that sprite?

[fluid panther]

I always get far in development but always struggle with the art part and get demotivated
Should I learn blender or else? Where to start? I have 0 art skill

[trail imp]

You can join some groups that will give you access to an art database if you don't want to lear

[dreamy saddle]

is it better to material meshes in blender or unity. Of course I would still uv unwrap them in blender first before exporting but I am not sure which is more efficient/easier

[fluid panther]

Wut

[trail imp]

Maybe elaborate on what you mean by is it better?"

[dreamy saddle]

whats the more popular method. I imagine unity is easier but is there a con to using it instead of blender?

[trail imp]

if you're asking how I make my materials - I do UVs and assign material names in blender. Make them in Substance Painter. Then export from Painter to Unity.

Painter is smarter about connecting them

if it misses, no problem - just have Unity search for the materials or assign the manually

[trail imp]

your options are
A. learn the art yourself.
B. Hire someone
C. Get them from places like Kenney Assets or GameDev HQ (http://www.game-art-hq.com/, https://filebase.gamedevhq.com/, https://www.kenney.nl/assets). Some are free. Some aren't.
D. Don't whinge if you don't like these options

[dreamy saddle]

substance painter is something not within my budget, do you think the built in blender texture painting/ shader options are good enough instead?

[trail imp]

also keep an eye on humble bundle. You'll see sales on unity assets and get tons of free stuff for 20 bucks

[trail imp]

Blender is a PITA because their built in shaders don't correspond to Unity's needs.

[fluid panther]

Ok ok thanks

[trail imp]

For example - metal/smoothenss is a swizzled texture that Blender doesn't easily make. So you have to then switch your Unity shader to one that has them separate

[trail imp]

To be clear - do you have any budget at all right now?

[dreamy saddle]

not really, game dev is a hobby and im 17 lol

[trail imp]

no probs we all start somewhere

[dreamy saddle]

maybe i could look for an alternative to substance painter?

[trail imp]

I am unaware of one at this time

[dreamy saddle]

if unity doesnt have good capabilities for texturing

ah

[trail imp]

unity is not a Content Creation Package

your job is to find content elsewhere, or create it yourself, and then put it into Unity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UZ-niuRWz8

Try watching a few tutorials to see how others have done it

[dreamy saddle]

thanks, will do

[trail imp]

noice - https://www.cgchannel.com/2022/10/adobe-makes-all-of-the-substance-3d-tools-free-to-students/#:~:text=Adobe has made its entire,the upcoming Substance 3D Modeler.

[trail imp]

See if you can get Adobe to send you Painter on a student license. It'd be worth the time if you're dedicated to being a 3D artist

Also, if you make this your career, you'll know how to use the industry standard

[dense horizon]

Hello. Does anyone know why unity renders an other mesh in gameView? On the left side my platform has som wobbles. InGame on the right side it doesn't have this details??? It's a simple Mesh which I made in Blender and the Modifiers are applied

[dense horizon]

Ignore me! The mesh is rotated 😂

[timid atlas]

why is my sprite like this?

[arctic wyvern]

try to get down your pixel per unit

maybe 10, but you have to know the resolution of your sprite before

[timid atlas]

look at these tho

[arctic wyvern]

the raw sprite have the same resolution ?

[timid atlas]

thats my idle one in unity

same everything

[arctic wyvern]

this image have exactly the same resolution as the other image you show ? if you have two same image witht the same resolution, you should expect the same result on unity right?

[timid atlas]

i think

[misty lantern]

Most commonly you have an image that's larger than the defined max texture size, so it gets downsampled

[fluid oak]

the 'max size' setting refers to the texture/sprite sheet, not the individual sprite. So that could be it.

[misty hamlet]

I need help making a coin using paint.net there is NO turtorial on it

[outer halo]

Find a pixel coin on google and reference it

[misty hamlet]

but i dont want it like pixel

[outer halo]

Find a 3D model coin and reference it

[paper tree]

if you're wanting a 3d type rather than 2d i'd use blender. but if you're looking for pixel style aseprite is the way to go.

[misty hamlet]

i want to make it like this

like that perspective

and paint.net cant make that

[paper tree]

oh! well you just would have to up your resolution. that's why i definitely recommend Aseprite. Theres so many tutorials and it's super easy to use.

[misty hamlet]

but i dont want to spend money on a tool and there is also no tutorial on GIMP

But photoshop has ALL tutorials in the world like i HATE Adobe that they have to be the best of the best like no one cares adobe

[outer halo]

Sounds like a lot of excuses. In your eyes, what is the solution to your problem?

[paper tree]

Can you change your canvas size? that'll give you that quality but mainly the perspective is all on how you draw it. thats the tough part of using programs that you actually draw rather than using something like blender where you get all perspectives. Unfortunately its hard to find tutorials on free tools just because alot of people dont them 😦 i used to use paint.net a little back in the day but switched to aseprite to make things alot easier and actually have tutorials on things.

[outer halo]

Not sure why paint can't make a pseudo 3D look considering that example is done in 2D.

[misty hamlet]

yea but like i dont want to pay for a tool

[paper tree]

It can. It's just all on the ability of the drawer at that point unfortunately.

perspective is one of the hardest thing for 2d drawing in my opinion

[outer halo]

Hence, what is their ideal solution to what is clearly a skill issue.

[sullen plank]

Sometimes it's simpler to render the 3d object and process it in the 2d app

[paper tree]

^ that also. i don't know how to do all that but that is also another option.

if you can't draw it yourself best thing to do is find out simpler ways around it.

[misty hamlet]

like what i have no money to spend on someone to draw for me

[paper tree]

like what Fogsight said. See if paint is capable of doing that. if not, it's working on your drawing techniques at that point.

[outer halo]

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Can you just answer this question? Otherwise if you're here to whine, then please stop.

[misty hamlet]

Paint is not capable because they dont have a perspective tool

[sullen plank]

This is a simple enough geometry to create in 3d, in Blender for example, then you can shade it and re-color it however you want.

Very basic tutorial away to be able to do that

[misty hamlet]

i know its easy to make in blender

[sullen plank]

Then you render it and you get a 2d coin image you can edit

[misty hamlet]

But the shading is hard

[paper tree]

there is no perspective tool in most programs for 2d. you have to draw it like that.

[sullen plank]

You setup shading in 3d, can't be easier

[paper tree]

Okay so I have my own question now. I painted my grass but it has no texture. how do i add the texture? it's not allowing me to drag the texture i have onto the grass anywhere.

its saying something about mismatched textures but i just wanted to add my texture in unity rather than going through all the bs to make it export from blender

[misty hamlet]

the coin is UGLY its not what i want

[sullen plank]

If you use basic material with texture, when you import it you would only need to instance it to modify in Unity

[paper tree]

gotcha thank you!

[paper tree]

just remember you wont be able to speedrun it if you actually care what it looks like. you want to put more time and effort if you really want it to look like that

[outer halo]

So what do you want? If you don't answer this question, then stop posting. You're spamming at this point.

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[misty hamlet]

But like idk howw to shade

[paper tree]

look up tutorials about shading then. it doesn't have to be about your specific program.

[outer halo]

!mute 1118073170499473431 2d Spamming

[lilac edge]

ander507 was muted.

[paper tree]

😂

[trail imp]

I was going to tell the bloke that Krita is also free... Has vector tools and perspective for him to fake it...

[outer halo]

I particularly like how they deleted the post they made as a reply to me that got them the mute to make it look unwarranted.

[coarse shore]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, so let me know if not. I’m having an artist create a texture for a ship model, he asked if Unity supports UDIM. From what I’ve found it’s not standard and doesn’t work, or if it does, it’s not very performant. If anyone has any insight I’d really appreciate it

[pastel junco]

Hi everyone, I really like the art assets used in games like raft. More minimalistic but still detailed in places. Right now I'm learning how to create 2d assets of this style but I'm unsure how to start making assets like this in a 3D world. Does anyone have any tips for creating something of this style, any beginner tutorials would be a massive help. I'm really new to the art area of game dev.

[outer halo]

Look up some beginner courses on Blender?

CGBoost was really good

[drowsy wadi]

Can I use submeshes as multiple meshes for colliders?

[cyan lynx]

Hello EveryOne! hope so you are doing well! Guys I'm facing a problem regarding workflow of blender and Unity.... First thing is when we duplicate an object in unity actually that object become the link of main object (in term of blender Alt+D). And same thing happens in blender by pressing Alt+D but when I duplicate an object in blender by using Alt+D unity doesn't pick up the materials. Can anyone or @misty lantern please help me regarding this. Thanks

In Blender everything is fine

In unity duplicated objects's materials are gone.

[unborn ridge]

Hello, how do you guys do 2D sprites (assets?) Pixel art or a other way? 😄

[misty lantern]

Usually you only make the meshes of the levels in blender and decorate them with prefabs in Unity later

[cyan lynx]

It means I should work of duplication in unity neither in blender?

[misty lantern]

Yes, using unity's prefabs for it

Which are the same as "linked duplicates"

It's possible to make a system that automatically replaces specific meshes with corresponding prefabs after importing, but it probably needs custom editor scripting

[cyan lynx]

Hmmm! ok I've gotted the point and I've sorted the problem by changing the blender version and now its working fine but your suggestion is important to me thanks @misty lantern 👍 ❤️

[misty lantern]

Something you don't want is for every copy to be imported as its own separate asset, which I assume is what's happening in your case

[cyan lynx]

Yup Actually I'm affraid of Scripting 😂

[cyan lynx]

Yes exactly actually whenever we Import an asset in unity there is a mesh of it and if we duplicate them in unity the mesh remains single and the object in hierarchy increases and this is the reason of linked duplication and it is useful for making the mobile game environment I think.

Any how Thank you very much for your Response.👍

[misty lantern]

It happens linked duplicates do share mesh data after importing, even though I was worried that they wouldn't
This is good, though it doesn't automatically let you swap them out for prefabs, which is what you'll usually want for easy editing

[ruby moss]

I have a minecraft skin applied to a model but when I reimport it as a VRM it looks like this, any ideas ?

[spark vigil]

Hi can you make textures for terrain in texture atlas or it is suppose to be single pngs?

[gray hill]

does anyone know whats wrong with my blender? Im trying to mirror a half of the cube but instead it makes two cubes inside each other that mirror

[blazing canopy]

Hey all, hope I'm not overstepping by asking this here. I want to create a paid online course and provide the assets to the students so they can build a long with me. What is my best option for doing this without breaking the license of a purchased asset. Am I restricted to paying artists on fiverr?

[misty lantern]

You're probably looking for the "bisect" option there

[misty lantern]

Find assets with a license that permits their use and sharing, or negotiate and try to reach an agreement with the asset creator to allow you distributing them for that purpose if not otherwise permitted

Public domain content is always safe to use and share, but maybe noncommercial use licensed content is also an option

A lot of courses I see are using Kenney's free assets

[eager mist]

Hi! I bough an asset from the store with a few houses, the problem is some of them glitch as I move & some of them are see-through when you enter inside. Do you have any idea of what's the problem? Thanks in advance.

[misty lantern]

This is the near plane of the scene window
By default it uses dynamic clipping and fits near and far clipping planes to fit any object you focus to using F or by double clicking in hierarchy

It can also be adjusted here, but usually the dynamic clipping works just fine

Often 3D skyboxes are rendered with another camera (or in another pass) in smaller scale to avoid having to use such far out clipping planes

If the near and far planes are too far from each other, you get z-fighting issues meaning the flickering you see on the houses

[eager mist]

Where did you find this? I only have the option to adjust them myself

[misty lantern]

The camera tab of your scene window

This has no effect on your game camera

[eager mist]

Found it buy sadly still flickering, even in play mode

[obtuse oyster]

the flickering is two things on top of each other, ie. z-fighting

[eager mist]

so the problem would be from the asset, not from me?

[obtuse oyster]

Unless you have placed two things on top of each other

[eager mist]

yeah, the mesh had a strange thing in it and removing it resolved my problem. Thanks!!!

[dreamy saddle]

how can i make a bullet in blender without it becoming a "model prefab" that i cannot add scripts or components to?

[misty lantern]

You can add components to them, but probably shouldn't
Add your components to an empty, and parent the model prefab as its child

This way the mesh object and its transform are separate from any scripting and physics, and can be swapped at any time without affecting anything else

[dreamy saddle]

omfg thats actually so smart

i love this discord

thank you so much

[hollow harbor]

Is there a way to pack this kind of texture into fbx then import to Unity?
I've looked up tutorials but they seems do not work.
Then the only way to do is to bake texture, isn't it?

I've been avoiding to do baking is that the model is complicated, or is it doesn't matter?

but the flaw on the model itself stops me from doing anything

What could be the optimal solution to this situation?

[misty lantern]

Yes, bake, or texture it using a non-procedural brick texture to begin with

There's not much benefit to using a procedural texture as it's entirely repetitive anyway

[hollow harbor]

or output it into a texture image will work? but stretch issues is a factor isn't it?

[misty lantern]

If you want to bake you need an UV unwrap that supports it
But if you use a repeating brick texture you can cut a lot of corners by using "cube projection" uv unwrap

[hollow harbor]

so I'm using cube projection on the brick part then the rest remaining default?

[misty lantern]

Don't know what "default" means in this case
Either they're using a texture with UV coordinates, or you'll have to bake
(or potentially implement a triplanar projection shader in Unity)

Here's an example of how sloppy UV maps can be if you're using texture maps from the get-go

[hollow harbor]

hmm my knowledge stop from unwrap -> smart UV project

[misty lantern]

If you were to bake you'd need something like this instead, where nothing overlaps and nothing is outside of the 0 to 1 UV region

Bake only if you have a complex non-repeating procedural texture
(or sculpted details)

[hollow harbor]

yep I imagine this will be my output but the thing is my model has flaws that stops me even doing unwrap, am I right?

[misty lantern]

No, automatic unwrap methods like box projection add seams automatically
The "flaw" is a lack of seams that stops a manual unwrap of large parts

[hollow harbor]

then if I solve this problem, what should I do? separate the different part of the model by the texture they're using and creating their own UV map, assemble them afterwards?

It shouldn't matter, right?

[misty lantern]

I'm not sure what separate and assemble means in this case

[hollow harbor]

hmm ... I mean selecting the model parts by texture and separate it into a different UV map, then it'll import as a part of the model and assemble the pieces in Unity

[misty lantern]

Unwrap and texture everything in Blender that you don't have to use procedural textures for
Get repeating brick textures and use manual unwraps and box projection for
Learn to unwrap meshes and to texture them before the previous step
Alternatively unwrap the whole mesh for baking and bake the procedural textures, which will be more work and a waste of texture space
Alternatively2 use triplanar mapping in Unity instead, which is similar to the object coordinates you're using

[misty lantern]

There are no different UV maps (for this purpose)
Each vertex has an UV coordinate, and a material that associates a texture with those UV coordinates

If you have multiple material slots you don't need multiple UVs

(and you wouldn't need them anyway)

[hollow harbor]

ok I got this, but for the previous suggestion, I guess I'm looking up for manual unwrap, box projection and triplaner wrapping

[misty lantern]

Maybe in this case it will help to study what UV unwrapping really does

[hollow harbor]

let me keep searching for now

I'm not the person doing the model in the team but I gotta learn these I guess

[misty lantern]

If it's at all an interesting topic I'd also look up "trim sheets" in addition to the rest

[hollow harbor]

OK understood, appreciate for the help ❤️

[elder oriole]

Question;
I'm doing a sprite-based game, and I wanna make some UI assets RN; I plan for this to be on mobile devices, but I don't know what is the typical resolution to aim fro with these assets, given they're sprites and this is mobile

[sacred grotto]

Hi all. I'm not sure if this is the correct way, but i set the screen res to 400x240 as that's gonna be the pixel resolution for a pixel art game
I have to set the scale to 1.6 and.. this means the build/webgl screen willa ctually take 400x240? Or can the window be always resized to full screen and keep the resolution of all the gameplay units to this?

There are a lot of placeholder graphics here, but the pixel art main character on the center of the screen is the intended graphics

The pixel art res for tilemap/sprite purpose is 16 px per unit
400x240 screen size means there should be 25x15 unity units in screen

[lime pollen]

the scale slider is literally for just zooming into the game window in editor, it doesn't affect the actual build

[sacred grotto]

Will a webgl build have a 400x240 size tho?

[misty lantern]

No, that's defined by the site that the game is played on (or at least that takes priority over Player settings)

And if someone is playing on a screen that has more resolution than yours, 400x240 will be much smaller than you may anticipate

If you're worried about keeping pixel sizes correct, you'll probably want to use the Pixel Perfect Camera component

That can pick the resolution and scale closest to user's screen or game frame while keeping the pixels perfect

[severe gust]

Every time i try to apply my slice settings, it resets. What am i doing wrong?

https://i.imgur.com/34gfBcy.gif

ah damn, found out. Apparently, slices arent supported in the aseprite importer

or nvm, apparently its the "slicing" feature of aseprite thats not supported and slicing in unity should work. Okay, im back to not knowing what the hell i am doing wrong

Found the error.

I had to set "Import Mode" to "Sprite Sheet" instead of "animated sprite"

[hollow harbor]

Question: I tried to pull this material I found from the asset store to the wall of this model but it become pure brown
What did I do wrong? It should be simple isn't it?

Is it the problem of stretch? because I pull the texture to the ground it looks fine

[misty lantern]

No UVs on the wall
Remember that to see mesh UVs in action in blender you need to use the UV coordinates for the material, not Object or any of the other texture coordinates

[hollow harbor]

I'm in ...... Unity? is it the same?

[misty lantern]

The problem looks to be that there is no valid UVs
What potentially can cause it is if you were using non-UV coordinates on blender's side before exporting and didn't get visual feedback of the UV mapping

[robust mason]

I imported my blender model from Blender, I setup the axis stuff as advised, the animations an orientations are correct however, the Y rotation is effectively a -Z rotation and as such I lost an axis of rotation

All the bones behave like this but the meshes work fine

[gleaming trail]

does unity have a similar feature to roblox with it's mesh union & intersection

or is that a plugin

[trail imp]

It's not built-in to Unity

There might be an asset you can download/purchase from the asset store but I've never needed one. Blender does that for me.

[misty lantern]

You're looking for either an intersection shader to do it temporarily but fast, or a boolean operation to do it permanently to produce a new mesh but expensively

[gleaming trail]

I'll just make it in blender

[rancid karma]

anyone know the game hawked or boarderlands. i wanna get that kind of art style for my survival game. anyone know what i should do?

[outer halo]

That's an impossible question to give advice on. You make it with artistic skill.

[desert lion]

I've got a decent amount of Blender and Unity experience, but very little using the two together. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with general advice on preparing assets that look good in Unity? Things like baking reflection and lightmaps in Blender, that sort of thing (or anything else that is good advice, I am very inexperienced in this)

[blissful relic]

search "cel shader"

[misty lantern]

Borderlands does not use cel shading as the techniques used for that look are rather specific, it instead uses a sobel filter

[blissful relic]

yeah but I think using a cel shader should bring you pretty close

since thats what people usually mean by "borderlands look"

[misty lantern]

People are usually mistaken about that

[misty lantern]

Hawked utilizes a type of post process rim lighting that mimics fresnel, but is more even in width and multicolored, likely with the help of normal and depth buffers
It also uses "halftone"-style patterns both in screen space and on textures to try to go for a "printed cartoon" look
But with both games most of what you see is pure artistic muscle using traditional texturing and modeling techniques

[quick ocean]

does anyone know how to fix this

[misty lantern]

Mesh and animations have a different scale
You need to make sure they match and apply transforms before exporting from the modeling program

[errant iris]

Hello, all.
I'm using Aseprite sprite importer and it works amazing.
I found out the way to add animation events directly in Aseprite as well, but is there a way to add parameter values for these events?

[foggy steeple]

If I wanted to model and texture something like a deck of cards along with an individual playing card model. How would I go about doin that? I'm trying to make it at least relatively efficient while persevere as much quality.
I figure the "high quality" option would be to have different textures for each card at 53 textures (extra texture for the rear face of a playing card.)
And the "most efficient " being a standard texture for a playing card deck with the front and back face on the same texture and maybe overlay the actual card values on top somehow? But I'm not really sure how to tackle it tbh.

Guess I'm just asking the ideal way to skin a cat here

[weak nimbus]

I know this is not really blender discord, but i currently have a problem when applying a subdivison modifier when i fill the bottom with quads and then apply the subdivision modifier i get a wierd almost shadow looking border around the cup and i dont know why, has anyone else had this problem or knows how to fix it?

[misty lantern]

Looks like the inside of the container is poking through the outside
Subdivision will smooth/shrink geometry which you need to account for

[vocal solar]

Question: does Unity have a Deferred Decal material / shader setup like the one in Unreal? I'm trying to replicate a workflow where we used to have floating geometry decals on buildings etc and then there was a "Deferred Decal" material that we would use for that... in Unreal. Unity have anything like that? cheers.

[pastel junco]

what is the best software to use to paint 3D models made in blender?

[misty lantern]

Substance Painter has hardly any serious competition, but the next best thing is probably ArmorPaint which is free and not adobe

[pastel junco]

Thank you, do you know if it works with drawing tablets?

[misty lantern]

I'm sure they both do but I haven't confirmed

[pastel junco]

it says armour paint in $19 oops

[misty lantern]

It looks like the source code is free but they're selling the compiled executable
Meaning you don't have to pay but could for the convenience

[dry bone]

Is there a way to automatically map project materials to imported FBX assets? My team is using Maya and Blender
Creating a material with the same name in Maya only creates a new material in the fbx file

[lapis elk]

you have to drag and drop them manually.

[dry bone]

Alright thanks, ill check if it is possible to assing them with an asset post processor script.
I've noticed that you can search with the material name in the On Demand Remap dropdown

[dry bone]

For anyone that is curious, just call SearchAndRemapMaterials(ModelImporterMaterialName.BasedOnMaterialName, ModelImporterMaterialSearch.Everywhere);
In a asset processor script🤘

[misty lantern]

"extract materials" creates copies of embedded material assets that are automatically assigned

[fluid oak]

Are the fill polygons attached? You might be getting weird interpolation if they are attached, and if they are not you might be getting the outside sprinking more than the base when subdividing, due to the shape of it.

[woeful pagoda]

What's the best format to use between Blender and Unity for 3D assets? Should I use .blend for everything? Or only for static meshes?

[heavy vector]

No matter what I do, the thumb always always always is bending the wrong way.

• rotating bones in blender
• bake axis conversions
• moving bones in a subtle curve
• removing bone twist
• adding extra bones

All the things I've tried and it still doesn't work.
How can this avatar generation be so wrong every time?
This is driving me nuts.

[misty lantern]

Fbx for everything
.Blend gets converted to fbx anyway

[snow flower]

I’m having this issue where certain parts of the floor/ceiling get their textures stretched in build.
Any idea what’s causing this?

[simple hound]

im looking for an animation for being dragged anyone know of one i can use?

[snow flower]

Solved it!
Moving the camera a bit further back solved the problem somehow.

[pastel junco]

what is this art style called?

[frank tide]

Hi, I'm still pretty new to unity, and was curious what the recommended workflow for importing assets and getting them game ready should be? I modeled and imported some assets from blender only to find that some of the materials didn't work but some did, and was curious if one should just model in blender and do materials in unity, and what good practices where for doing so?

[pastel junco]

UV maps are quite a big thing when dealing with materials and them working correctly. This might be the same for modifiers used on the model. Make sure your mesh and topology are good and the UV maps work correctly before importing into unity

[frank tide]

Thank you for the advice, I will double check and keep you posted

[pastel junco]

Hi again. Is it ideal to sculpt every game object or is this a bad idea? I want a lot of detail in my models and this is the only way I know how to add detail but I'm worried about the vert count or the lag that could cause

[misty lantern]

Raw sculpts aren't used in games normally
The sculpted detail is baked into a retopologized low-poly mesh as normal maps

[pastel junco]

so how does that work then? Sorry I'm new to the sculpting area

[misty lantern]

Look into "high poly to low poly baking"

[pastel junco]

thank you!

[hidden yoke]

is there anyway to get my texture paint to look like the grease pencil?

[misty lantern]

Not totally
Grease pencil works with vectors which are infinite resolution, whereas texture painting is limited by texture resolution
Simple method is to increase the resolution

[hidden yoke]

funnily enough I just figured that part out, do you know if there is a way I can replicate the deep blacks?

[misty lantern]

The darkness has to do with the material/shader, not the painting itself

[hidden yoke]

so is there a way to gain greater control over the paint then just the properties tab? Like I can actually change the shader

[misty lantern]

If you're in blender's Solid View mode, then the painted texture is previewed on the mesh but with some specular lighting that makes it appear kind of dull
If you instead use Material Preview with a material that has no shading (such as texture directly into emissive shader) then it'll be just as dark

[misty lantern]

Texture painting simply produces an image texture
It's up to the material in Shading tab to implement it

[hidden yoke]

ok thanks!

[hidden yoke]

Is it possible to texture paint at a consistent size despite distance from target in blender, similar to grease paint?

[obtuse oyster]

Probably worth asking !blender

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[normal tide]

hm

[woeful pagoda]

thanks

[rough relic]

Hey guys! First time posting in here, but I've come across an issue I can't seem to google my way out of. I've got these planes in my scene with a png applied to them. I applied transparent/vertexlit-2sided to them, but they both have black lines at the top of the plane. Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask.

I suppose I could make the png really tall so its out of player's viewbox if I need to lol

[junior lintel]

this is more a question about Blender, but... how fix?
Blendshape 'Shape3' on mesh 'Body' has 50 (out of 26429) invalid vertices (NaNs). They will be assigned value (0,0,0).. The list of vertices: 24139, 24140, 24142, 24143, 24195, 24196, 24197, 24198, 24303, 24304 and so on...

[lime pollen]

!blender

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[gritty raft]

I am in need of a plugin that can 'Bake' shape keys. for example, i have a character mesh that has hundreds of shape keys. after the player set the shapes/design they want, i need to bake that to a new mesh, of that shape, without the shape keys present (pretty sure you all know what i am saying here). Which plugin is the one to use for this?

Due to wording, i cannot determine if Skinn Pro is capable of it or not. Also, a bit out of date, and people are saying it does not work with the newer Unity versions anyway

I also cannot determine if Mesh Baker can do it with Skinned Meshes (Not yet sure if Skinned Meshes are called something different in Unity vocabulary) or not

For all i know, all of this is built in already, and that is why i am having trouble finding it in plugin form :/

[junior lintel]

I'm there and I'm just getting ignored soooo

after some narrowing, my best guess is Unity importer not liking something about some sort of attribute order or something... it imports perfectly to other game engines so

[misty lantern]

Bake in which way?

[wide yew]

how to achieve such a art style like in league of legends for environment

[misty lantern]

Look at the environments first, then make something similar
There's no trick to it

[gritty raft]

in this sense, bake would mean, create a new mesh from the current shape of the mesh you moved the sliders of the morph targets on. that new mesh does not have all the 600+ morphs that the original did.

So, you've got a character creation screen. it has a Very heavy mesh with all the morph targets you can use to change the appearance. at the end, when you press start, it needs to create a new mesh from that chosen shape, but without all the morph targets it had to allow you to make that shape.

[junior lintel]

So when importing an FBX, "keep quads" seems to literally double the number of materials, assigning said materials to like a few random tris on the mesh... is this just an FBX importer bug? or?

[gritty raft]

out of curiosity, why would you try to use Quads only in the Engine?

[misty lantern]

I see, that makes sense
I don't know of such a feature
Initially I assumed you meant baking blend shape motion into vertex animation textures or something similar

I'd assume Unity can technically do it with the procedural mesh reading and writing methods

[gritty raft]

I may have gotten previous conversations crossed, myself

Fingers crossed for that! ^^

[misty lantern]

It's usually pretty easy to get in touch with asset authors so you may be able to ask about it

[gritty raft]

Yeah, i am going to have to try. sadly no responses for months on the store, or his Itch.io page, but i will see if i can track down a way to contact him

[misty lantern]

It doesn't create new materials, but rather submeshes aka material slots, which is expected behaviour
A single mesh cannot represent multiple types of topologies so it has to split them

Non-triangular meshes have mostly only specialized uses so I'm curious about the use case here

[junior lintel]

why create new mat slots though? it only has 4 anyway... so why make it 8 slots? and it would've been something to do with making the meshes more... proper? I mean, if nothing else, it's good to do on like, pretty much anything that's been modelled with quads.

[misty lantern]

Modeling with quads is important, but after exporting you can forget about them

Submeshes are doubled because as I said tris and quads can't coexist in a submesh

[junior lintel]

oh! ... huh!

[pulsar fractal]

Hello, what would you guys recommend to use for making vector hud element and icons for a game (apart from Photoshop)

[lime pollen]

Vector stuff is usually done in illustrator, not photoshop

[pulsar fractal]

Oh, alirght thanks, I dont really know anything about graphics design tbh

[fluid oak]

Set the texture to not tile vertically in the texture settings.

[rough relic]

Thank you Ill try this when I get home

[novel garden]

Hey there. So my concept artist provided me this image, which represents a generic room within our game. I'm looking on how to best recreate this look in engine, as well as establish a workflow for the artists so it's easy to build these levels.

The style is mostly flat coloring, with a heavy emphasis on linework. Do you think this outline should be handled by some shader/post processing effect, or built into the texture itself?
As for creating these assets, I assume we would establish some grid size, and make floor/walls models that conform to this grid? The end goal would be to have some bank of modular assets.

[lyric vapor]

how do I removethis? I deleted it on my asset but it still causes error due to dependecies installed with this package

[obtuse oyster]

I'm not sure what this has to do with the channels you've posted to. It's an asset store package, to remove it you have to delete the associated assets from your Project/Assets folder

[lyric vapor]

what if it has dependencies? I removed the folder but to no avail

[obtuse oyster]

Describe what you mean by dependencies and the errors you're seeing in #💻┃unity-talk

[fluid oak]

I'm guessing, from the lightbulb character, that dynamic lighting will be important somehow?

That sort of art style is actually quite a focus of research, and there are a lot of competing approaches towards it. There was a Unite talk a while back on one popular approach to it, but the devil is in the details.

[nocturne summit]

hello! im making a game in unity with my brother. Hes doing the coding im doing the modeling in blender., so almost all of my questions will be specifically about blender. Is this a good place to ask? or is there a more specific server for my needs

by that i mean questions about blender related to game development and importing to unity

[obtuse oyster]

!blender

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[obtuse oyster]

If you have questions about importing, here's fine

[nocturne summit]

okay. what about modeling specifically for video games? because it seems the population of game devs in the blender discord is next to none. no one can ever answer questions about low poly, optimization, etc.

[obtuse oyster]

🤷 give it a shot and see if there's any interest or if people feel it's on-topic enough to bite

[nocturne summit]

would this be the correct channel? or no. And is there a better discord server for that?

[obtuse oyster]

Yes, and no idea

[nocturne summit]

okay thanks

but first question would be how do i get textures from blender into unity? For my one image texture, i brought it in by just literally dragging the png over. But for ones thats a solid color im not sure how. I tried just remaking the texture IN unity, same hex code/metallic settings/everything but it looks pretty different

youtube videos have been no help

[novel garden]

Oh ya? Do you mind posting the talk?

Or do you have some keywords I can search for?

[fluid oak]

I don't remember the name because it was named after the game it was based on

Some kind of roller derby type game, iirc

...might have been a GDC talk actually. But it was definitely about unity

[novel garden]

oof not a lot to go on there

[fluid oak]

Sorry. I watched the talk but can't remember the game's name.

But on the bright side google has about thirty thousand results on the subject!

For your particular sort of needs I'd say that a combination of textures and a full screen shader should cover most of it, especially if you are using sprites for characters.

[novel garden]

Ya we're going for a Cult of the Lamb look. 3D world with 2D characters/props.

You think a combo would do it then? Just draw out the outline within the texture for markings on the floor and characters, and then for 3D objects use a screen shader?

[fluid oak]

Have you decided on a rendering path?

It won't change the approach but will heavily effect the technical details

[novel garden]

Not yet. We're at the implementation stage.

Or... I guess planning for implementing the concept art 🤔

[fluid oak]

You can probably limit the shader outlines to silhouettes, with interior ones being texture based. One thing to bear in mind is that most outline techniques need to take the use of sprites into account since the default sprite shaders don't interact with depth. You can get around that pretty easily as long as you keep it in mind.

[blissful relic]

yeah I think this is definitely a job for shaders, for example a cel shader

[novel garden]

There's sort of a lot of outlines going on, some of which I don't think can be handled too easily. You have outlines for the tiles as detail, outlines for the 3D geometry on the walls, and outlines around the 2D characters.

[supple acorn]

Will merging faces increase performance? For example, 50 faces into 1
Also, removing faces that are not seen, will it increase performance? Like the bottom of a rock

Should I bother doing this? For mobile:

[misty lantern]

Perhaps minimally
Deleting it would help more

It looks like you've made a few quads and tris into an n-gon with several vertices

All faces will become triangles when rendering so all that will happen is that the face will be triangulated and get the internal edges back

So by doing that you're barely saving verts in the single digits

[nocturne hatch]

No. So unity works on polycount, and uses Vertices. That face still has 10 vertices.So nothing changed. If you dont see the bottom faces it will be still rendered, so depending on the complecity of the scene you can delete the bottom part. But before doing that, try to do some static batching and see if you are under your limits.

[solid roost]

is there any way to get blenders fine detail with bump into unity i've exported it and put the height map into the material but when i use the slider it just makes a black border instead of adding detail like blender does

[misty lantern]

"Height map" is used for parallax mapping, not bump/normal mapping

If you have a height map that you want to use as a normal map, import it, set its type to Normal Map, check "normal from greyscale" and then assign it as a normal map

[solid roost]

Oh, so i should use bump in the normal slot

Seems to be working, thx for the help

[misty lantern]

Only if it's a valid normal map
A "bump map" by itself is a vague term with many meanings depending on what engine you're in or who you're talking to

[solid roost]

So in doing so i could run them through gimp using the convert to normal option and it should work fine

[misty lantern]

That's probably an option, but I'd try Unity's own converter first

[nocturne summit]

How can i add metallicness to an image texture?

[misty lantern]

Metallicness is implemented in the material with a correct shader, not in the texture
Color and metallic textures are used separately in the material

[supple acorn]

I have an object with a editor generated mesh, and when I save prefab it loses the mesh reference, how can I save the mesh?

[lapis elk]

Maybe try the Unity to FBX Exporter

[misty lantern]

How are you "generating" the mesh?
Usually the responsibility to keep track of saving and references is up to the script that generates the mesh

[humble lynx]

Is it normal to create an entire level in a 3d modeling software? And not making the level in unity with probuilder or modular meshes? Im talking an entire, fps indoor level, made in a 3d modeling program like blender(props and details will be added in unity)

Im talking about the basic level geometry like walls, floor, roof, shadow proxy mesh, steps, windows, etc

[misty lantern]

Sure yes

Note that you may still want to split parts of the level into different objects in blender, so the parts can be culled when not in camera's view

You can even use blender's "linked duplicates" so the mesh will be imported once even if multiple objects use it

I think newer unity editors have the option built in to replace objects (or at least imported mesh instances) with prefabs, so it's feasible to also include props and details before exporting

[lapis elk]

You can also create modular pieces.
Like 10 different Wall pieces. With this Walls you can create your whole building in Unity.

[humble lynx]

Ik i can do that, i literally said without using modular meshes, in my original message

[lapis elk]

Ah, sorry ^^
Well, yes, then you could create your whole indoor scene in Blender.
I dont like this workflow, because you have to go back to blender everytime something is not perfect with the mesh or the model itself.
Thats why i prefer the way of doing modular stuff and create prefabs out of them, so i can reuse whole rooms, terrains etc. in unity 🙂

[humble lynx]

Makes sense, i think i will block out my scene in pro builder first then make the final thing in blender to avoid this.

[lapis elk]

(How big will your Building / Indoorscene be?)

[humble lynx]

Have you played any valve games like portal or half life 2 or l4d maybe?

[lapis elk]

yeah sure

[humble lynx]

That big

[lapis elk]

okay. when you think about portal, it would be smart to keep every room a single mesh i think.
You can make the whole part in blender, sure.
But i would recomment like @misty lantern said, to keep the rooms seperate, so they can be culled when not used.

[calm pewter]

so, i have some nurbs path in blender, is there anyway i can export them to be loaded into unity as either some blank game objects or something?

[small stream]

idk why, i cant import my blender asset. when i imported it , it give this file but it doesnt contain any model

and im sure that i imported the blender file

this goes to all my blender file not jsut the bow one

[obtuse oyster]

Do you have Blender installed?

[small stream]

yeah

on steam

[obtuse oyster]

I wouldn't use Blend files in Unity btw, it's almost always better to export to FBX

[small stream]

ok

oh

let me try

[obtuse oyster]

Check in Explorer that blend files are actually set to open with Blender

[small stream]

ok

[misty lantern]

Steam version isn't usable by Unity afaik

[obtuse oyster]

It's fine

[small stream]

oh

[small stream]

ok

[small stream]

also am i doint it right

i dont see any FBX file

nvm im blind

it jsut in lower case

thank

it works now

[mighty sleet]

I imported Quixel Megascan Assets last time and they worked fine. Now, after a restart, when I add a Megascan Prefab to the scene it's without any Textures. The Material in the materials folder is default white. Any Ideas what happened?

[mighty sleet]

When I export again the Assets are fixed

[polar tree]

How to enable boolean in blender?

It gives me an Error: Boolean is disabled. Then I enabled in preferences but nothing change

[outer halo]

!blender

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[solar ruin]

Hi Guys,
I'm trying to make a Metroidvania level using a premade tile palette. The tutorial I am following uses Unity's Tileset objects, which is going alright, but the character walks ON TOP of the ground instead of ON the ground (see picture)
I have "Foreground", "Background", and "Ground" Tileset objects in the scene. I can imagine having a very simple "Ground" tileset with collision and no-collision Front and Background tiles stradling it. However, I am concerned about performance.
Does anyone have a suggestion for how I can achieve the effect I am going for optimally without significant hassle?

the character should be walking a few pixels lower on the ground

This 2.5D effect is what I want, but I need my workflow to be performant

How do developers normally handle this effect? I haven't found any tutorials on this style of tileset, or tools on Unity store

[misty lantern]

Either the ground tiles have two parts split down the middle horizontally, one that's the "real" ground with the collider and another that's the background part
Or you can also have just one sprite drawn behind characters, with the collider covering only half of the sprite so they kind of "sink in" to give the illusion of depth

With the first method you need to manage your ground and wall sprites in pairs of foreground and background, but with the collider technique you'd have to modify each of the tile's collision shape

There isn't any quick way to automate either process out of the box

[solar ruin]

ok, well I already have a tile palette that I would like to keep using

do I need to make some primitive shapes for collision into a kinda "graybox" Tileset sandwiched between foreground and background layers?

Since it's not going to be seen, I wouldn't want to render this layer if I can avoid it

[misty lantern]

Tiles can have their own colliders using the Tilemap Collider component
The shape of the collider is automatically read from the sprite's physics shape defined in the sprite editor

No need for separate collider gameobjects or components, but they're technically an option also

[solar ruin]

that is the problem though

she's walking ON TOP of the polygons generated by the silhouette

[misty lantern]

I mean change the silhouette

[solar ruin]

the silhouette is generated by the art

[misty lantern]

Change it manually

[solar ruin]

you are telling me to draw my own tileset

[misty lantern]

No, change the physics shape in the sprite editor

Unity's sprite editor, not some external one

[solar ruin]

do you mean Composite Collider 2D?

I can offset it in the y-direction, but then the ceilings are messed up

[misty lantern]

No
When I say unity's sprite editor I mean unity's sprite editor

https://learn.unity.com/tutorial/introduction-to-sprite-editor-and-sheets
Chapter 7 figure 10

[solar ruin]

oh!

yes, I tried offsetting these

but the collision is still based on the sihouette

[misty lantern]

When the component is assigned, a polygon collider reads the sprite's physics shape for the collider shape

[solar ruin]

I see now

yes, thank you

[misty lantern]

If you are using sprites rather than tilemaps, you will need to reassign it

[solar ruin]

this is helpful

[misty lantern]

Tilemap renderers with tilemap colliders update it automatically

The physics shape (and sprite outline) by default are generated from the sprite's visual outline

But they can be changed

The only downside is you can't tell the sprite editor to "automatically cut the physics shape in half for each of these floor tiles"
So, some use sprites that are already cut in half, with the lower half using automatic colliders and the upper half none at all

But then you need some method to keep them together so the two ways are roughly equal in inconvenience

[solar ruin]

got it

the tile palette I have is less robust, but I can edit the physics shapes on the tiles I need to

thank you @misty lantern

[novel garden]

So right now I'm working to slowly replicate this level concept within Unity. Mostly this involves developing an actual asset workflow for my art buddies and I to follow. We're looking to go with something tile-based, with most of the rooms being rectangular or octagonal.

What're the best practices involved with developing 3D tile sets/modular assets like these? I assume defining a grid size, and how they scale to Unity units is a good starting point. I've been looking at other games like Death's Door as a reference, and it seems to do a damn good job at building a world from simple pieces.

[misty lantern]

They don't have to be on a grid
"just make sure they fit together" is basically the only necessary best practice

[novel garden]

Fair, but I guess the question then becomes "what are good practices in making them fit together?"

[misty lantern]

If you know how you want to compile your levels, either in editor or in a generator, that gives you an idea of how to measure everything up

If you're making them in a grid, then grid modules are useful
But you might also want to give specific predefined areas for each room to use, with connection points at particular coordinates
Or maybe any room could be of any shape and size, so you'd simply use empty objects or something similar to mark where a connection point can be

Then you block out some basic room shapes, and when you're at the point of adding detail to the connection points, you could create linked duplicates and line them up together in various ways, so you have a realtime visualization of how the seams look

Sometimes "connector parts" are used to make it easier to mask the seams and create transitions, but whether to use them and how they work is totally up to your needs and preference

Usually you choose between grid, predefined connection offsets and connector marker objects

There's also vertex snapping in Unity and most modeling programs that lets you easily plug two modules end to end, but only if they have geometry that match perfectly well

[solar ruin]

@misty lantern I manually adjusted the Physics Shapes for all the tiles used in my tile palette, but the collision hasn't changed in my Tileset. Do I need to do something else to use these changes?

Also, I was using Composite Collider 2D (which comes with the Tileset component iirc) with Geometry Type set to "Polygons". Changing that to "outlines" wasn't the solution as they weren't the same as the Physics Shape and my character just slid around

[misty lantern]

You're using tilemap component with the tilemap collider?

Composite collider is used to "glue" other collider components together so they work seamlessly

[solar ruin]

yes

should I not do that?

The tilemap part of the tutorial is a little slapdash tbh

I'm happy to do it differently

[misty lantern]

Should, but it also should update automatically I think
Could try removing the component and adding it again

[solar ruin]

which one

the tilemap?

[misty lantern]

TilemapCollider2D

[solar ruin]

alright lemme see here....

[misty lantern]

At least if the collider type is Sprite

  Sprite: The Tilemap Collider 2D component generates a Collider shape based on the Sprite assigned to the Tile. The Collider shape is based on the Custom Physics Shape set for the Sprite.
Grid: The Tilemap Collider 2D component generates a Collider shape based on the shape of the Grid cell, which is determined by the selected Cell Layout of the Grid component.```

[solar ruin]

:D looks different now

[solar ruin]

word on the streets is that this component won't update unless you "refresh" or remake it

I have confirmed this is true

thank you, you have been very helpful

um...you know the secret to steep stairs?

I don't have a Unity-generated character controler and the stair tiles are really steep

pretty stylized

I can get my hands dirty and adjust them in Photoshop but I think I remember Aldadin on the Genesis running up some steep stairs, and I kind of like the aesthetic

[misty lantern]

Can you show what kind of steep? Multiple tiles wide or tall perhaps?

[solar ruin]

single tiles with 60 degree incline

roughly

here's what they look like in photoshop

they're 32x32 tiles

and a little jank

so I WILL redo them a little

the tileset I was given may be missing pieces

[misty lantern]

Usually you make the collider a ramp, and add a condition to the character controller to detect the changed normal of the ground to change animation and/or movement mode

[solar ruin]

Ok, way I see it (actually), if I made no changes to the art, this should be a 45 degree (1:1) staircase b.c. I can just connect opposite corners. This will make the character's transition to flat tiles to look more seamless

I'll look for a tutorial on making a character climb steep ramps

Maybe I can even just have a tileset layer just for stairs and give those super-friction-y materials

[solar ruin]

well yeah the sudden transition issue will need to be fixed first, maybe that will fix everything

[solar ruin]

@misty lantern sorry to bug you again, but I am just wondering: is there a way to move these stair tiles from the Ground Tilemap to the Stairs tilemap?

(I googled this yesterday and couldn't find an example)

[solar ruin]

This solution worked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E8AI5UgmAw

I may run into trouble a little later depending on how complex things get with knockback, etc.

[plucky wraith]

beginner here needing some advice. i'm trying to build a vehicle that will fly around a level while letting players move around freely within the vehicle as it's flying around the level. so i went into Blender and built out a box with 6 sides and cut some entryways in them, joined all the walls into one single object, checked that my normals were all facing the right way (blue), and exported the FBX for Unity. after importing it into Unity, adding RigidBody and MeshCollider with convex OFF, the vehicle just fell through the floor. turning convex ON prevented it from falling through and allowed me to stand on top of it, but i'm unable to enter the vehicle through its doorways, clearly they've been blocked by the collider around the entire object. am i wrong in assuming with convex off, the MeshCollider won't actually calculate for the hollow interior of the vehicle? does it only do simple shapes like tubes? am i supposed to refrain from joining my walls in blender, export all 6 walls of the vehicle seperately into Unity then add box colliders to each piece individually for me to achieve what i need?

[bronze spear]

The physics system can't simulate dynamic non-convex bodies, so you will have to build it out of simpler pieces. The ideal way to do it would be to place the colliders by hand, but keep the mesh as one single mesh. If you want to, you could keep the walls separate, but all that does it help you place the colliders. Nothing is stopping you from placing the colliders yourself on the single mesh.

[bronze spear]

I have never tried it, but it may actually be possible to have a dynamic rigidbody with a convex collider to drive the actual motion of the vehicle, then have a child kinematic rigidbody to have proper collisions with players / other things that need to enter the vehicle. So, the idea is: you could put that convex collider onto its own layer, then tell it to not collide with players via the collision layer matrix. If you then added another rigidbody as a child, made it kinematic, and gave it its own collider that is non-convex, it might have proper interactions with players. Both colliders would reference the same mesh, one would just be convex (for the dynamic rigidbody) and non-convex (for the kinematic rigidbody).

Like I said, haven't tried it myself as generally it's not ideal to have nested rigidbodies, but it may be worth a shot in this case?

[queen rock]

I am currently making a 2d top-down game and am using conventional 2d hand-drawn sprite sheets for my character. I just watched a vid on youtube saying I can replace the labour intensive process by using Blender and meshes. Can someone give me some recommendation? Should I learn Blender? Will using 3D meshes significantly affect the performance of my game?

[lime pollen]

Converting to a 3d pipeline has its own tradeoffs, putting performance aside. Are you willing to learn modeling, texturing, rigging, and animating in 3D now to save you time creating sprites in the future?

[queen rock]

Well Im willing to learn as long as it doesn't take too many hours to do basic stuffs

Since I am a programmer, I want someone to handle future animation and drawing for me, knowing the basics of drawing could help me illustrate my ideas. The workload would be too heavy to be the main coder and also illustrator

[lime pollen]

Well it might take you many hours, that's the thing. Also drawing and 3d modeling are different skills

If you're planning to work with an artist I suggest just looking for one now instead of investing time into a brand new art pipeline

[queen rock]

I just got my hand on blender

it's not hard, it just takes your sanity away

I can make a donut now, how long will it take me to learn how to create character models?

[young sleet]

https://youtu.be/yloupOUjMOA?si=roYr4GSV-odsqtdE

Hello, ive followed this tutorial but noticed a little problem, as soon as i only have a img texture my models look incredibly flat because theres no normal or roughness map

How can i properly export while keeping the detail? Thanks

[queen rock]

I have been studying Unity and Blender for the past 10 hours, I still don't know whether I should draw 2d Sprites or make 3d Meshes then convert them to pixel art to easily animate things but with low quality

[young sleet]

ayo help, my texture is the wrong way despite smart UV unwrap in blender??
wth

[half field]

Hi how is sprite atlasing done in 2022? Everything in the docs leads to the Sprite Packer which is legacy so it is confusing!

But I guess you just create individual sprite atlases now?

[tulip spade]

I wanted to know what was better, whether it was better to create a 3D model or a 2D one that looks at the camera, and if the 2D option is better, how would I go about it?

to make grass

[lime pollen]

There is no "better" way, it depends on your game and what you intend the look to be

[misty lantern]

    Unity User Manual 2022.3 (LTS) / 2D game development / with sprites / Sprite Atlas / Sprite Packer
"Please note that Sprite Packer is deprecated for Unity 2020.1 and newer, and will no longer be available as an option from Sprite Packer Modes. Existing Projects already using Sprite Packer will still be able to continue using it, however any new Project created in 2020.1 onwards will default to the Sprite Atlas system when packing Textures."

Use the sprite atlas

[icy grove]

why is the gizmo upside down?

[misty lantern]

Because your object's transform is

[icy grove]

its not

i had to apply all transforms in blender

[misty lantern]

That doesn't guarantee it

Because Blender and Unity use different axial systems

@icy grove https://polynook.com/learn/how-to-export-models-from-blender-to-unity more detailed explanation here
Also, you can instead use world-aligned transform gizmo by switching it from object orientation to world orientation using scene window's controls

[icy grove]

how to open shape menu when creating a probuilder shape?

nvm

[lone kelp]

how do i make it so i can change the colour of one particular part of a tilemap

[gritty raft]

Just want to press the Compression issue again, and make sure my meaning was clear. You've adjusted settings in this screen to turn off compression?

[fair crystal]

it doesnt matter anyways because i used the eyedrop looking thing and it is the same

[gritty raft]

That's a strange one. hopefully someone has seen it before and knows the solution. good luck!

[fair crystal]

i fixed it

u have to edit the tmp shader

[tribal pivot]

how did u edit it?

[fair crystal]

instead of return c

i write

#if UNITY_COLORSPACE_GAMMA
return c;
#else
return fixed4(GammaToLinearSpace(c.rgb), c.a) * c.a;
#endif

[tribal pivot]

so tmp changes its color if ur colorspace is set to gamma? i did not know that, thats strange

[fair crystal]

i think it's either that or something to do with hdr

very hard to notice but for some reason there is actually still an outline

[tribal pivot]

why would hdr be affecting ui? do u have some custom hdr shader or something? cuz now im worried all my texts and stuff are the wrong color

[fair crystal]

ive got no shader for hdr

i am not using any render pipeline

out of the box, TMP does not render colors correctly and they should rly fix it

[tribal pivot]

this is a travesty

how is that not fixed after being in unity for so long. and its a simple fix in the shader, just having to type a few words?? how have they not done it

[fair crystal]

i dont know

this could be an issue for just me

but u can try it

[tribal pivot]

i dont think so, cuz u dont have any custom shaders as you said

[dense oar]

tech art question I am have been struggling to wrap my brain how you'd physically create
I want to model a crystal that looks like its re-facetting itself

like picture hard edge voronoi noise cells 'flowing' over the crystal surface to form angled cuts/facets, so that its not just a static crystal sitting there but a morphing flowing shape made of sliced away surfaces 🤔

I cant concieve of how to even attempt to do this, shader alone I dont think can do it, and surface modeling doesnt like to change that dynamically, its not just a matter of pushing vertexes around

like if you scrolled something like this across its surface, and used this kind of data to reshape the mesh surface but I'd want it to look like hard edge crystaline cuts, not just deforming blobbily

its hard to describe what I am going for, am I making any sense?

how do I produce an art asset of a crystal that reshapes itself over time, not morph targets but like a flowing surface of cuts

like something like this except real time in unity?

and I want to move all the slices, in real time

maybe this is just impossible

if its impossible to make it dynamic, how do I just FAKE this exact appearance? I am not sure how you'd fake it either

[misty lantern]

@dense oar Sounds like you may want procedural meshes using the same math used by modeling programs for boolean operations
or an "intersection" shader

[dense oar]

ill try googling that. Attempt to do it in shader didnt go well

it just ripped the mesh apart and kind of looks like trash instead of like a cool fluid perfect faceted crystal whos facets can flow along its surface

[misty lantern]

You can't do the first option with shaders, and can't do the second option with just one shader
Or at any rate I haven't seen anyone do it that way

[dense oar]

the mesh was made with tons of subdivisions in advance but I think maybe to make this work the voronoi needs 3d coordinate data in it

but yeah like you said shader probably cant do this

but i dont know how you'd model this because its not one single fixed hard surface model, its more like a described thing that has to change and reshape itself along intersections

its not one model so how can I possibly model it

its been a long day and im burnt out, I recognize if I keep trying and failing ill jut go into crisis so better to just give up having proved all of the things I did today arent how you do this

[misty lantern]

@dense oar Here's an example of CSG booleans: https://forum.unity.com/threads/boolean-operation-on-mesh.808278/
It'd be entirely a script based method, and it's pretty expensive to do at runtime and prone to failure and quite complicated since you need to recalculate topology from intersection of two meshes
Here's one for shaders based system: https://codeburst.io/unity-cross-section-shader-using-shader-graph-31c3fed0fa4f?gi=93c1a5e4ea80

I'm guessing what you want is kind of like using multiple clipping planes like these to make facets, and to move them also

[dense oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669975874455732224/1198010149869199391/fakery.gif?ex=65bd58e5&is=65aae3e5&hm=6323417c40f83d6d0bb4278dbf9678cc11849e37af498fd20d95b1dd33cbde84&

here's a crap example as well to make it clearer what I was going for

only, 3D, but basically I guess a tiling (or at least just without seams), scrolling intersection
and NOT just scrolling a normal map like shown there, actual mesh deformation

Reading those links now

[dense oar]

crude 3D test of a bespoke hand animated one

the cheapest possible MVP version is just a scrolling tiling mesh that tapers to and from a point 🤔

maybe this will suffice if I just make the mesh itself look a lot better, and I can hide reptitiveness by making multiple segments of mesh that all fit together seamlessly 🤔 maybe?

and in unity I think I can taper it to a point in shader by editing the vertexes

[dense oar]

I might be able to ALSO do that intersection stuff you linked on top of this, both together might be enough to look 'dynamic' and conceal that its just a fixed hand authored effect

[misty lantern]

This doesn't look like booleans, but I guess the above example does?
Chances are I don't fully understand what effect you have in mind precisely

[dense oar]

Yeah I couldnt find an example of someone else doing this to show either sadly, and to make an example is to actually just make the effect 🤔

I want to make a crystal that looks like its facets are fluidly flowing over its surface

but like, actually, not just scrolling a normal map

the above doesnt really pull it off because its just translating, the facets themselves arent changing

ill think on it more, I feel less frustrated and less stuck that I got at least the above working

[mint raptor]

Good late evening peeps. Dropping in here a complete unitiy dilettante.

Currently I'm coding a game and got to a point where 2d assets have to be added

But I would really benefit from the shadder values of custom images that I'm preparing

since the game is pretty sensitive to them

Like is it possible to extract exact "BaseMat", "_LightPower", "_AddAmbient" and "_TintColor":

for a certain image that I'm preparing. Asset studio only helps for existing in-game images, not the custom ones.

using Unity that is

[lime pollen]

We aren't allowed to discuss ripping assets here

[misty lantern]

What does an "in-game image" mean?
Textures don't contain shader properties, they are a shader property

[lime pollen]

It means they're using ripped assets 😛

[mint raptor]

like I said, zero ripped assets are being used, rather custom created ones, that aren't ripped but was provided by the creator with just a raw image and nothing else.

[misty lantern]

What precisely are you trying to do
"Preparing an image" doesn't say anything to me either

[mint raptor]

And I can't contact the said author anymore that provided the raw image that he made unfortunately, and ask him for the main values that he used while making the image.

[mint raptor]

And you do realize that if anyone would actually want the material values of an existing assets, that you interpret as ripped from the source (game for instance), we can just look them all up in asset studio material dumps. But like I said, that's not the case here.

[misty lantern]

If you have the textures, why not read the values off of them in an image editor?
If this doesn't have anything to do with ripping, how is Asset Studio relevant here?

[mint raptor]

I only mentioned asset studio since he mentioned ripped files, which In my case has nothing to do with.

[misty lantern]

Didn't you bring it up first?

Or do you mean someone you're developing with mentioned it

Anyway, I'm confused and would like to have some answer to any of the questions I asked earlier

[mint raptor]

I said it as example, since word "Custom" was used, which doesn't correlate with already existing image ripping in my books.

[mint raptor]

Asset studio was relevant here only because you can see the Tintcolor and Addambient values there pretty easily.

which I can't do that with a custom made image sadly, and can't get that info from the original creator, as of now at least.

[misty lantern]

So, you're making materials and textures for a project without access to the project?

There's effectively no way to know what tint color a material is using if you don't have the asset in front of you
Textures are just another property used by shaders, they don't contain values of other adjacent shader properties

[mint raptor]

I had the made finished product sent to me in a form of png, and I can't get the vital info I need from the original creator that created it specifically for my project.

Thank you, that's the piece of info I was looking for, cheers.

[misty lantern]

Normally an artist is expected to author and supply the assets in the form of image textures, particularly in 2D
If you have custom shaders that require extra shader properties, they'd have to be briefed how to make those on the Unity side

Tint color is one of the few default 2D shader properties, but it's not really a standard part of any art workflow

[mint raptor]

He didn't think that the asset that he gave will not look as expected while testing it in the project, so I didn't even ask him initially. I didn't thought through here enough.

[misty lantern]

In case you want more accurate advice, showing like how precisely the assets would not look as expected would be helpful

Kinda feels like we're dancing around the actual issue

[lime pollen]

Definitely smells like an xy problem

Might be easier if you showed screenshots

[sterile island]

how do i make my textures look clean?

this is the look im going for

and this it what i have

[pastel junco]

would this model cause lag in a game? Imagone having around 10,000 of them, it is animated too

[outer halo]

Anything you add makes a game lag. Whether or not having 10k of these would make it unplayable, is impossible to say.

Does it have to animate? Can you not scroll the UVs? And if things get heavy, you can always consider using DOTs.

[misty lantern]

Looks like you got an answer already elsewhere

[pallid garden]

Why is my exported model from blender rotated 89 degrees and scaled 100?

[humble lynx]

You dont need to animate it.
Scroll the uvs ov the belts with shaders.

Also you can reduce the lag by using gpu instancing and batching

[humble lynx]

To fix the scaled to 100 issue, when exporting as fbx in blender, there is a drop down that you can set to "all fbx" or somethig like that. Set it to all fbx

[misty lantern]

Units and transforms are ambiguous in formats between 3D software like Blender and Unity
https://polynook.com/learn/how-to-export-models-from-blender-to-unity see this for more info

[pastel junco]

Legend thank you

[coarse shore]

Hello, does Unity support UDIM textures?

[misty lantern]

If you have a model made with UDIMs your modeling program may be able to export the UDIMs as separate materials, in which case it'll work
But they won't be UDIMs beyond that point anymore

That workflow is not really used for game graphics, because the way UDIMs work would make it way harder to optimize things for realtime rendering

[coarse shore]

Ok that’s what I was kind of picking up on. Thank you for the information!

[dense birch]

anyone knows where i could find some arms and guns in low poly?

[lapis elk]

possibly on the asset store ^^

[stuck dagger]

disable filtering in the texture settings

make it point filter and disable any antialiasing

[glad rune]

I'm making a small building, working with smaller textures (32x, 64x). Would it be better to split the building up into multiple 64x textures, or combine a bunch of them into a single 256x texture? I know that it'd decrease drawcalls, but I'm wondering if there's any utility to splitting it up at all.

In terms of memory, cpu utilization, gpu, etc

or is it just negligible at a texture res this low? (assuming my target platform is PC)

[misty lantern]

Also reduces texture loads
Will make it harder to do tiled textures unless you have a system for it
If you're talking about sprites, you can automate that with the Sprite Atlas

[misty lantern]

Yes, I'm quite sure
Unless you have several hundred of them in scene I guess
Even then you'd want to test it first to see if it's worth the effort to optimize

[glad rune]

seamlessness is no worry for my use case so that's perfect

[small rune]

hello guys, do you know if there are any tips and tricks to export an object so the other person working with it only have to drag and drop the object in his unity scene ?

[misty lantern]

Most of the time you'd make your object into a prefab and export that prefab as an .unitypackage with its dependencies

[small rune]

Ok ok thnks very much i'll try that

[daring tartan]

Does anyone here know any good 3D modelling apps for ipad? Doesn't need to be free but preferably not like $50 or something

[lilac tiger]

I would use blender

[finite canyon]

Hello... I'm not sure if this is the correct channel, apologizes if it isn't!

Can someone help a very art beginner with a piece of advice, please?

I'm starting to adventure myself in creating my own 2D assets (mostly focusing on Metroidvania style). I'm trying to draw simple assets (like some platforms, rocks, trees, etc) using Procreate... but I'm struggling with the file resolution I should use to draw them.

I have seen some videos about it, but I'm still a little bit confused about this. I understand it's better to draw something in a higher resolution and scale down than the opposite. But I'm still not able to figure out if I should really go to something like 4k and scale down when importing to Unity, or if I should use something like 256x256.

Also, a follow up question on that: should my drawing fill up 100% of the file? Let's say I'm drawing a platform... it'll naturally have a larger width than a height. In that case, should my file resolution still be a square?

Thanks in advance.

[lilac tiger]

I am using the package com.unity.vecorgraphics, but for some reason the vecotrimage now looks like this

[lapis elk]

Hey.
I would recommend drawing the stuff in the double size as you need them later. It’s not necessary to keep them as a quad. Just try to keep the resolution divisible by 4 because Unity can only compress files that are divisible by 4.

[devout orchid]

Hey there, I am currently having a problem with my level I am designing. I have created a beanstalk and on the leaves, they are missing their top left corners and those missing areas act like planes in-game! I made this model in blender, and exported it as an .fbx file. In other softwares, it looks and behaves normally, what should I do?

this is a repost, but I was told to ask here

[marsh summit]

You probably need, in blender, to click on those and use Control + A and apply their scale before exporting

[devout orchid]

I'll try that! thank you!

[devout orchid]

alright, sorry for another ping, but I have scaled it in blender, exported it, and then re-imported it and it is still doing this, what is your recommendation?

[marsh summit]

It looks like it's making a massive tree branch instead of the small stalk if I'm seeing it right?

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the issue

And the stalk and parts I'm guessing are individual separate meshes

[devout orchid]

the leaves, attached to the beanstalk, have corners missing from them, and those corners act like planes

yes

[marsh summit]

I'm not entirely sure what they act like planes means

[devout orchid]

I can pass my hand thru one way, but not the other

[misty lantern]

@devout orchid Looks like inverted normals

[marsh summit]

Yeah agreed, if they are the right size but only drawing one side, or no sides, it's the normals

[devout orchid]

does that have something to do with "face orientation" in blender?

I don't really know all the the terms here

[marsh summit]

It's OK, the order of a face determines if it draws the triangle on one side or the other. It's just the normal. It's because by default unity shaders only draw one sided.

So in blender, you need to edit the meshes and either manually invert the wrong normals, or more likely just select all the verts and then have it auto calculate the normals. You should be able to search that in the blender search

[devout orchid]

I saw a video on that a min ago, I'll try that, thanks!

alr, so, I just tried recalculating, and that didn't do anything

I'm gonna try to manually flip them in blender, then export that

no luck

still broken

[misty lantern]

You need to flip them so that face orientation view no longer shows backfaces (red)
You can also enable backface culling in blender (in view settings and/or material settings) so the two programs cull backfaces the same way

[devout orchid]

here is the strange part though, in blender, there are no red faces

only the blue ones

[fluid oak]

Are the faces all triangles?

If they aren't, you might have nonplanar geometry which can render weirdly.

[lapis elk]

https://youtu.be/v-dcBY1-YS8?si=QVbkYJ0sKnGBNONJ
Maybe this helps you.

[misty lantern]

@devout orchid This is another important thing
Polygons can get deleted if there's something weird with the topology, and you'd get a warning in console when importing
Triangulating before export usually fixes it or at least reveals the problematic polygons

[devout orchid]

thanks folks, gonna work on this tonight

[devout orchid]

by the lord! I just tried triangulating, and it fixed it! thank you so much!

Your help is greatly appreciated

[wide yew]

Do you need to draw the body and arm of a character seperated to equip a weapin between them.

[misty lantern]

Depends totally on your setup, but since you mention "drawing" I'd say likely yes

[wide yew]

i mean like if it is 2d you draw it right

[outer halo]

That's one way to do it, yes.

Especially if your weapons are seen outside of the player

[vivid void]

how do i fix

[eager mist]

it looks like your shader is not compatible with the current rendering pipeline to fix this go to edit->renderpipeline->UniversalRenderPipeline->Upgrade project materials to UniversalRP Materials

[vivid void]

where is render pipeline?

[junior valve]

y you got the gorilla tag map

[vivid void]

yep

[vivid void]

Well

[eager mist]

oh it looks like Unitys Ux has changed a little in the newer versions, check the graphics teir

[vivid void]

ok

all thats there is shader hardware 1 2 3

ima try project settings

[eager mist]

ok well if that doesn't work you can manually change the shader, if you're using URP, then just go to the shader of the object and change it over there, you can modify it to a specific Universal Render Pipeline Shader

[lime charm]

As explained before (which is why cross-posting is against #📖┃code-of-conduct ) you are on the built-in render pipeline. It doesn't have the autoconvert

[vivid void]

ok

[vivid void]

how do i do that

[lime charm]

They are telling you how to convert it to URP, which you are not using

[vivid void]

oh

[eager mist]

you are using the base pipeline this method is only for URP

[vivid void]

ok

[summer umbra]

I have 4 models that were catologed together but idk how to remove the each one indaviduele how do I do it and the models are imported from blender

[misty lantern]

Export them separately from blender

[summer umbra]

how do I do that ?

[misty lantern]

In most cases by selecting just one, limit export to selected objects and export

[summer umbra]

I selected one and it says it could not load the 3d model

after I exported it

[misty lantern]

What says? Is that all the information in the error?

[summer umbra]

when I open 3d viewer

and this what came up when I tried to export the model into fbx

for some reason it cannot see the model

[misty lantern]

That implies it also requires a rig to be exported with the mesh

[summer umbra]

how do I scale a armature

[misty lantern]

Much like how you scale anything else

[summer umbra]

I have never used blender before so I really don't know how to scale anything

[misty lantern]

Then you need to learn to use blender at least a bit

[summer umbra]

how does this rigging look so far

[lapis elk]

quite good, but i would rig the character in t-pose

[summer umbra]

is t posing also when the models hand stand like this (/ \ ) ?

[lapis elk]

yeah, some kind of tpose

[summer umbra]

I do have one in the catalog

I think I will rather try it with the t pose one or should I continue with this one ?

[lapis elk]

In t-pose its easier to rig and you can mirror some bones.
But if you can handle this pose too, its fine ^^

[summer umbra]

oh ok I will see if this one works out or not otherwise I have to do the t pose one

yea I think I am rather just going to do the t pose

[supple pendant]

I was very interested in making a lowpoly game with pixel art for textures and so on, will show some examples (obviously with a little less simple gemoetry and higher resolution textures etc)
Does anyone have any ideas as to what style of lowpoly characters might fit in with this environment? I don't want to do pixel art characters nor voxel

Likely I'd want the character rig to be setup well enough complexity wise to have multiple joints/limbs like the elbow seperating your arm into 2 joints

Though likely aside from humanoid enemies, the monsters themselves etc would be blockier-esque

[drifting dew]

like a runescape type character?

[loud scroll]

The material I created in Blender on the left (yellow) is the material I desire, yet for some reason, in Unity on the right, it becomes reddish-orange when imported. Any thoughts on what caused this?

[lapis elk]

normally, you don't use blender materials in unity.
I recommend creating a new material in unity, make it look how you want it and drag it into the desired material slot of your model

[loud scroll]

oooh right gotcha, yeah i totally forgot people usually use other software for material creation...

[lapis elk]

Yeah, even if you got a more detailed model with textures, better export the textures as PNG and build your Material in Unity.

[supple pendant]

I didn’t even think of this, I wonder if I’d be able to make some sort of proper hands fit this style though

[stoic robin]

Hey !
I'm trying to import an asset from MakeHuman, I'm following this tutorial : http://www.makehumancommunity.org/wiki/Documentation:Saving_models_for_Unity_and_how_to_import_them_there
I'm stuck at the part where I'm supposed to change the Shader to Legacy.
the material Shader dropdown menu is not active.

[lapis elk]

In the import settings there is something in the material tab, that used the imported materials. (I’m not at the PC to give you the correct name)
Then you can change the shader for the material

[stoic robin]

where can I find the import settings ?

[lapis elk]

Just Klick in the model in the project folder

[vestal cargo]

how would i fix the holes in my uvs? it doesn't show up on my mesh

[gritty raft]

Ok, so it basically looks like when the model was uv-unwrapped, those particular vertices were not select. or, they have been removed from the UV later

[vestal cargo]

is there a way to fix it?

[gritty raft]

are you able to unwrap again, following already existing seams, or would re-unwrapping not be an option?

first thing to check is that all your Normals are facing the correct direction

[vestal cargo]

just double checked my normals, they look good. let me try rewunrapping

[gritty raft]

if it does not resolve after the re-unwrap, i would clean-up the model, making sure there are no overlapping vertices that should be a single vertex. also, 'fill holes' if needed

[violet walrus]

you can just select those faces in the model, planner map them, then stitch them back in place

or pin exisitng uv and unwrap everything again

[vestal cargo]

what is planner mapping?

[violet walrus]

think its called like project from view in blender

though really any of the projection options will do since you will stich things back into place anyways

[gritty raft]

but i suppose the question is, why did they get missed in the first place.. i am assuming there was a reason, such as double verts, or, etc, etc

[violet walrus]

likeky not everything was selected when unnwrapping

[gritty raft]

yeah., hopefully it was just that

[violet walrus]

really its pretty easy to just stich things back in

[gritty raft]

i have never had to do that, so i am not familiar with the technique (still pretty early in my UV unwrapping career)

[violet walrus]

as long as i have some uv of the messed up part, i can select the outline of the hole

then use the stich tool to shove it back in

[gritty raft]

hmm. i am not familiar with a stitch tool in Blender, but i am sure it is there, or at least an equivalent

[violet walrus]

option+v or its in the uv menu

forget what its key on windows is, assuming alt+v

either way its just this one

[gritty raft]

yep, alt-v it is 🙂

[violet walrus]

itse useful for more mechanical things

like say you got a bunch of flat projections you want to stitch togeather on common edges

[gritty raft]

yeah, things tend to get complex pretty quickly with organic shapes

[violet walrus]

then just v is the opposite it tears a edge apart

[gritty raft]

i'm off on a programming adventure right now, but i am going to have to start working with my character models again pretty soon. I kind of dread it as they are huge VRAM hogs with over 650 shape keys :/

[violet walrus]

yeah not everything has to be done with marking seams and unwrap, that works good for larger organic shapes, but often expecially when you are uv'ing to a existing texture use split and stich helps alot

[gritty raft]

i am still looking for a clear solution to Bake morphs, after the character creation screen

[violet walrus]

650 shape keys is a hell of a lot

[gritty raft]

that honestly sounds like a nightmare. i would most likely try to bake to a new UV at that point. Of course, that is not always an option

well, i was designing for a different engine at the time, and had a solution to bake after they got their character looking exactly like they wanted it

[violet walrus]

it depends on workflow for some things i would opt for that for some i would not. when env art its common to already have a texture and trim sheet and you have to make UVs fit on it

[gritty raft]

good point

[violet walrus]

so what you created a bunch of shape keys in blender, and you use them in Unity for character customization ?

but once the character is created, you want to apply it back to the vert positions and save a copy of the mesh

[gritty raft]

exactly

[violet walrus]

that sounds doable, maybe a bit fiddly but do albe

[gritty raft]

so mix and match any combination of these shape keys, and then have it remove those shape keys after saving a new base model in that shape

I really thought there was an out of the box solution, but now i think i may have misread a couple years back

[violet walrus]

the mesh class should be able to handle it

more or less need to iterate through all the vertices and apply the transformations to them

the hard part will be serialization, unless you just redo the work on every game startup

[gritty raft]

i would prefer to have it saved

[violet walrus]

yeah would need your own format for that, since at runtime you can no longer do asset database stuff the editor can and have serlizaiton via unity

[gritty raft]

i am not ready to tackle it quite yet though. still in the realm of C# tutorials here, at this point

that's no fun ^^

[violet walrus]

but if you save out the influences of each blendshape then you can use that when loading to recreate the mesh with blendshapes applied

[gritty raft]

well, we'll cross that bridge when we get there, as they say. i will keep that in mind, thanks

[violet walrus]

yeah you will want a certain level of comfort with C# first, but most of it could be done with the Mesh class
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Mesh.html

then after applies its about sorting out a way to save it to disk

lol i am over complicating it

[gritty raft]

i'd guess there is a plugin to do it, but they would probably take me as long to learn as making a solution from scratch. I'd have to make it from the ground up to make sure i fully understand it anyways

[violet walrus]

SkinnedMeshRenderer has a BakeMesh option

[gritty raft]

fingers crossed that it will support everything that is needed without too much trouble!

[violet walrus]

though 650 blendshapes is a hell of a lot for a character

also will need to sort out which ones are for customization, and which ones you dont want to make static because they are used for emots and facial expression

[gritty raft]

yeah, it is a bit overkill 🙂 Yep. i have a 39 viseme system for the lipsync, and about 35 expressions at this point. it is FACS based, so if i just change the names of the shape keys, i can use Apple information for lipsync

[violet walrus]

yeah its all kinda costly, but blendshapes cost a good bit compared to using bones, much higher memory cost

[gritty raft]

well, hopefully not as much as they used to, since they are calculated on the GPU now

in UE it was silly efficient, but i sadly do not think Unity is quite there yet.

I have to see if Unity needs to store a whole copy of the model for each one, or if they are using the more efficient route of just storing the deltas for each

[violet walrus]

looks like deltas but i would need to do tests to confirm

[gritty raft]

Oh, that is good news. i hope so

[dense sequoia]

Not sure if this is the right channel to post this in but I was looking to get some art made for my platform side scroller does anyone know where I could get some custom stuff done?

[gritty raft]

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[jagged elk]

how can you change the size of a sprite you already made?

[violet walrus]

You change it's pixels per unit option on its important settings

[hard quail]

Quick Question

I'm trying to do a quick system where I'd like a mesh to turn into a couple of others, basically switching out prefabs. This isn't the main system but it's something for ✨ aesthetics ✨
So think of 3 different sword models where I'd like the mesh to transform/blend into the 3 swords meshes when you switch.

My main solution would be using shape keys, but I'd like to keep each weapon a different model.
The only solution i can think of is using a intermediate shape that all models share using shape keys. So let's say I got Sword Mesh A and Sword Mesh B and I switch from A to B. So the Sword Mesh A shapes itself into the Intermediate ShapeKey, the mesh is replaced with Sword Mesh B in a Intermediate ShapeKey and then shift back into the Default ShapeKey.

However, I'm just unsure if there isn't a better way to do this transformation and I can't think of it due to my limited knowledge. Open to hear any of yall's take on this.

TLDR; Want to know how to Blend different Object Meshes without an intermediate Shape Key.

[violet walrus]

so its really do the hard work of using blendshapes to do this which is far from ideal, or just smoke and mirrors out

by smoke and mirrors it like toss lots of particles in the users face, or have a dissolve shader to dissolve one away while bring the other in

[lapis elk]

Your approach sounds very good to me.
If you can model your 3 swords with the same amount of vertices, this would be great for the shapekeys and you just switch your sword with three shape keys.
If you cant, do it loke you said with the "Intermediate ShapeKeys".
The easiest way would be, to hide the switch of the swords with a particleeffect, like smoke or a bright flash or whatever fits your style.
You could also build a shader, that dissolves the first sword and build up the second sword.

[last granite]

When I upload an illustrator file to unity, what things should I keep in mind in order for it to scale properly?

like is there a known unity exchange range between illustrator and unity i should know?

[outer halo]

Can Unity read AI files? 🤔

[violet walrus]

maybe with the svg support package

though even for svg files i always found it very fiddly, and for AI files if it works i would assume its like including a .ma file in a project where it literally calls the dcc in batch mode to export

[hard quail]

Issue with this would be the UV maps. I might have to do the Intermediate ShapeKey thing then

In theory I could use particles or a disolve, but I got something in mind on how i'd like it to look.

[high hill]

Did anyone manage to find a good way to read custom properties from blender FBX files?

[violet walrus]

You can do it in the asset post processor

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/AssetPostprocessor.OnPostprocessGameObjectWithUserProperties.html

[dense escarp]

Can someone help me figure out how to properly make my substance painter textures work in unity?

I have the seams all set, it’s just matter of exporting the textures from substance and trying to figure out how to make it work in Unity

I tried a lot of ways to do it but without success

😦

[lapis elk]

What exactly is going wrong?

[dense escarp]

The textures just won’t display properly, you can see it at the last screenshot

[lapis elk]

Okay. It looks like you have your pug (for whatever reason) separated into 3 materials.

[lapis elk]

That could be the first reason I see

When starting a project in painter, you should select the correct workflow, which should be named something like „Pbr metallic albedo transparency“ or something like this and OpenGL.

When exporting, you also use the Unity template

[dense escarp]

You are correct, I am working with 3 sub meshes and each has its own substance painter texture

I tried the Unity template (metallic) but it didn’t work.

[lapis elk]

Okay. In your case it makes no sense to split this into 3 materials.
You can go back to blender and give all meshes the same material so you get rid of these 3 painter textures

[dense escarp]

Ok, I will try to make the model one mesh and see how it goes

[lapis elk]

Before you start painting again, do several tests with a very simple painting on your pug, until you get a result you like.

[lapis elk]

If you need help, don’t mind do message me.

[dense escarp]

Ok, thank you. I will try to fix it today

[high hill]

Thank you, it did show that the custom value exists ... but it seems that the "animated custom properties" setting does not seem to work in the import settings, as there is no animation curve with the custom property in the animation

[dense escarp]

@lapis elk could this be related to my issue?

[lapis elk]

Hmm, I don’t think so. Can you send your exported textures?

[dense escarp]

@lapis elk

[lapis elk]

Im on my smartphone, can’t open a zip right now 😵‍💫

[lapis elk]

Ok very simple ^^
Nothing wrong I see

[dense escarp]

so I have a Normal, Height, Mettalic, Albedo, and then there is the fbx

[dense escarp]

funny when this is sad to hear lmao

[lapis elk]

Im quite sure you just made a mistake with the different materials.

[dense escarp]

maybe some issue here?

[lapis elk]

Yeah fix normal is a good button to press ^^

[dense escarp]

nothing sadly

[lapis elk]

And are you sure that you want your Pug to be as smooth as polished metal? ^^

[dense escarp]

I tried messing around with it but no look

you are right tho, def a bit too glossy

[lapis elk]

But back to material.
You have 3 different material sets in your painter.
Did you export all 3 of them and created 3 materials in Unity?

That’s weird somehow, and I don’t see the eyes of the pug in your albedo, for example

I can take a deeper look tomorrow if you can’t fix it by yourself

[dense escarp]

Yes, I will try to merge

[dense escarp]

ok

thank you for the help

[torn aurora]

How do I export from blender to unity with textures?

[dense escarp]

@lapis elk I ended up merging the submeshes into one and then the textures

it all works now

[azure ether]

here's a simple tutorial, 2 min: https://youtu.be/BYf4QnzXynQ

[azure ether]

and here's a more advanced tutorial if you want more exacting results, 6 min: https://youtu.be/yloupOUjMOA

[solid dawn]

i've made a simple cannon model in blender but when i import it to Unity, this happens. I used file format FBX. What could be wrong?

[stoic crescent]

your normals are inverted

go into blender, and flip normals

blender sucks for game developers

[solid dawn]

what do you mean by normals

[misty lantern]

Pinned messages have info about that

[solid dawn]

thx

[stoic crescent]

oooh thats helpful 😄 means I dont have to explain it ^^ thanks

[trail stag]

I'm trying to put my game on the web but apparently compute shaders don't work on it. I have some particle effects from an asset pack I purchased that aren't showing up in the game and I'm wondering if that's the reason, but how do I tell if this is a compute shader?

[misty lantern]

Compute shaders are not "shaders"
That's a shader

[trail stag]

that's good enough for me, thank you

[azure hare]

ive imported a few models (one being placeholder dummy) so i can see how character look in scale to the environment, the capsule is 2m in height . the character doesn't seem far off, maybe 5'ft 11

but how do make my charicter a particular size, i want all my charicters to be the same height

theres no dimensions on the models so i havbe no idea how tall it actually is without estimating

[lapis elk]

One Unity Unit is 1 Meter, so if you place a Standard Cube and give it a size of 2 in height, its 2 meter

[azure hare]

that's what I have with the capsule, its 2m exactly, but i don't know what the imported model is exactly, i can only stand it next to the capsule to check and "size it up"

[lapis elk]

Just scale the capsule until its exactly the same height as your Character and have a look on the capsules scale?

[azure hare]

how do i know its "exactly" the same size using my naked eye?

[lapis elk]

Are you producing Metal pieces that need a exact scale of 0.001 mm or a game where noone cares if something is bigger or smaller? ^^

Just eyeball it

Or if you want it exactly, then take the humanoid and bring it to blender and check its exact size

[azure hare]

i get what you mean, but id like to at least have the character size exactly so i can make sure the other character are EXACTLY the same size

[azure hare]

ohh okay ill do that

[azure hare]

aeronautics student, im used to having everything 0.001m scale

[lapis elk]

😄 i think you have to get used to gamedesign, where nearly everything is eyeballed 😄

But i know what you mean, i wanted to have everything perfect two in the past 😄

[azure hare]

XD

i models a sword in blender and im like "wtf? everyone is just eyeballign everything"

well i eyeballed that sword and i though it was pretty cool

i cant find the file on my PC I'm scared i deleted it by accident, i was proud of that

[olive matrix]

heya, I was hoping I could get some advice on a workflow for my relatively unique situation

i'm currently working on translating my originally flat 2d game into a 3d isometric perspective, which has gone pretty well and I think it looks nice generally (missing pieces here and there, but you know)

i was wondering what the best workflow for making maps would be like
i know a lot of people use blender and make their whole map in there, but then i wouldn't be able to do stuff like worldspace uvs for the terrain as easily and there'd be annoying work to do when my modeler is done making the environment to import it into unity

the same is true in reverse though, it'd be annoying to have to fire up unity and the whole project every time just to make maps inengine

especially if we had multiple people working on it

[leaden crane]

is there a point of multiple 3d models sharing a UV/Material/Textures if they're not gonna be static/grouped together in unity?

[misty lantern]

Sharing textures reduces need for separate textures loaded in memory
Sharing materials allows batching to work, if you're using URP then you benefit from SRP Batching even if you use no other type of batching

[leaden crane]

does it still benefit if the objects sharing the material aren't static/merged together?

in this example say you have a box, and a object in the box, they share the same material/texture but the player can pick up the object and interact with it independent of the box

or say a model of a can with 20 different labels but they weren't going to be merged either because the player can knock em around as physics objects

would it be more efficient to just have 20 different materials and smaller textures, or have them all on one big 4k texture

[leaden crane]

[misty lantern]

There's no inherent performance benefit to it, but it may enable different types of batching to work if you utilize them
SRP Batching is an exception to this, it's always enabled when it's supported and works with all meshes and materials by how similar they are in terms of shader keywords

Should you enable static batching, it requires they share the material
Should you enable GPU instancing, it requires they share the material and the exact mesh too
But even without these requirements SRP Batching tends to beat both those two in performance

[leaden crane]

alright, my boss is asking me to merge a bunch of stuff together on my end (Blender, Substance Painter) so im just wondering if there's any real benefit to doing it this way

[lapis elk]

If you can merge them together in one Material, then you have a benefit, yes.

[leaden crane]

and it still counts if they're seperate in unity and aren't static meshes?

[lapis elk]

i prefer to merge all meshes into one, if they dont need to be seperated (like a tower with a rotating cannon = i always merge the whole tower into one mesh and keep only the cannon seperated) but all in one Material.

an advantage of keeping everything seperated could be, if you make advantage of Frustum or Occlusion Culling.

[leaden crane]

well in my example, it's a container with several things inside of the container, so im just wondering if having the container and everything in it sharing the same material/textureset benefits at all

[lapis elk]

Hmm. Hard to tell. Do you use the stuff in the container elsewhere without a container?
If yes, i would seperate the stuff inside in a different material than the container.

[leaden crane]

so it's a VR game, inside of the container, is a smaller container which you can pick up and also open

and when you're done you'd put it back in the container

[lapis elk]

Well... the benefit of merging them or splitting them will be very very small if its not a 4k texture ^^