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[ruby tangle]

Ok sure

[wraith pasture]

new hierarchy is dope 🔥

but some minor bugs 😄 and lagging hard in prefab mode for some reason

[flat breach]

no but whatever its value is, the same issue occurs, you can see the difference of lighting on the ground

yes I've tried with point light but then you can see where the light comes from and it doesn't help either

baking lighting would help with that? I've read the documentation and it says I should bake only if I want a baked global illumination with reflections or something like that, I didn't really get that part,I'll need to read again but ye

[exotic relic]

then continue with the area lights. you can use more than one and you can increase the brightness & scale

baked lighting will look better if properly setup

[flat breach]

yea but that doesn't look good with them, maybe I should change a value in the wall's material that would make him more reflective to light

[exotic relic]

you dont need to change the wall material

[flat breach]

yes I'll try to do it then, do you have a good documentation on this please?

[exotic relic]

you could try watching some interior light videos on youtube

[flat breach]

it looks like the ground's material is bright but the wall's isn't

[exotic relic]

do you have a directional light in the scene? that could cause that if so

[flat breach]

no I don't but Unity's documentation says that's better with outside scenes

[exotic relic]

correct you only need that for outdoor or advanced windows

[flat breach]

that would only light the walls on one side

[flat breach]

then why should I add one lol....

[exotic relic]

i didnt say add one, i said that would be the problem

[flat breach]

ohhhhhh my bad

I didn't understand

[exotic relic]

if your wall and floor are using the same material, yet you have such lighting issue where its different. Go ahead to your lighting settings and bake lighting, wait for that to finish

[flat breach]

they're different materials

[exotic relic]

I notice your area light is going through the floor too, note that the further away from the square the object is, the darker the light

in this case you will probably want to use multiple sphere instead of rectangle

[gray frigate]

You need to light your world properly.

[flat breach]

that would still cause the difference of lighting no?

[gray frigate]

Consider a large number of small area lights

(like how you'd light up an office)

actually, let me grab an example here...

[gray frigate]

(which you bake, so that they can fill the entire room with light)

this isn't HDRP, but I baked my lights with inverse-square falloff, so it'll be pretty darn close

Notice how, even if I don't have any lights directly hitting parts of the world, I still have some indirect lighting.

[flat breach]

wow that looks insane lol

[gray frigate]

Also, you need to add reflection probes so that your walls receive correct reflected light

Otherwise, you'll get this weird haze

The walls are trying to reflect the skybox

[exotic relic]

even without reflective material, reflection probes make it prettier

[gray frigate]

Yeah

Even diffuse surfaces get a little light from reflection probes (especially at grazing angles)

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/Manual/LightingOverview.html

I'd give this a read

It's applicable for all of the render pipelines

HDRP is really nice because you use real light units

You can actually look up how bright a lightbulb is and punch that number in

instead of using an intensity of uhhh

0.5, whatever that means

[flat breach]

here you have area lights and also the indirect lighting right? for the indirect lighting what did you use? the documentation I've read talked about exposure only till now

[gray frigate]

"Indirect lighting" is what baked lights provide

It's light that bounces off of a surface and spreads through the world

[flat breach]

I'll read it right away thank you a lot

[gray frigate]

If you don't have any baked lighting, then you only get direct light

The HDRP does have realtime area lights, which can give a nice soft light

but you really want to bake your lights to let the light spread around

[flat breach]

there's a lot.... lol

[gray frigate]

Also, to quickly fix the glare, you can use the Visual Environment in your volume to use a solid color skybox

(and then make it black)

This will make everything pitch black

[flat breach]

using a black skybox and lighting then my scene would be better?

currently I have a real hdri sky

[gray frigate]

Once you add reflection probes, the interior areas will not get any light from the sky

so it won't matter at that point

[wraith pasture]

baked lights, lightprobe group, reflection probe

[gray frigate]

It can be nice to have a non-black skybox, because a black sky can cause really annoying auto-exposure behaviors

[wraith pasture]

That's just GMOD 😛

[gray frigate]

yeah:

• Static objects (like the rooms) will be lightmapped: a texture is created to store how bright the surfaces are
• Other objects (like the player) will use light probes: light is measured at each light probe, and you can use that to light the player up as they move around. This is most important for diffuse materials
• Both will use reflection probes: a 360 camera that captures the world around it. This is most important for shiny and metallic materials

[wraith pasture]

Two assets I can recommend are Bakery if you got that Nvidia RTX and MLP for auto placing the lightprobes. There are adaptive probes too but idk about those

[flat breach]

when you say baked lighting in my case, I should add multiple little area lights and set their mode to baked and then I bake my scene in the Lighting section using a lighting asset right? and then I remove my area lights GameObjects

[gray frigate]

I was extremely lazy with light probes in this vrchat world

[gray frigate]

You'll leave the lights in place

Baked lights are turned off automatically

[flat breach]

ohh so deleting them is wrong?

[gray frigate]

you'd have to put them back the next time you baked :p

[gray frigate]

Magic Light Probes is very cool!

[flat breach]

so in your example, you added green area lights?

[wraith pasture]

Yep, saves so much time

[gray frigate]

These are actually emissive materials

Large emissive surfaces can give you really nice soft lighting

[wraith pasture]

Also thinking of getting one of those level/mesh combiner assets, any experience with those? btw I'm planning to use pro builder this time

[flat breach]

emissive materials are enough to lighten a world???

[gray frigate]

I use PoseidonCSG to combine meshes

[wraith pasture]

You can also put them as baked

[gray frigate]

It's a neat tool: it carves holes in meshes where they overlap

This entire "backrooms" world is made of a few very basic room meshes

[gray frigate]

Yeah, as long as the material is set to contribute global illumination

"global illumination", or "GI", is the process of figuring out how light spreads

[flat breach]

ohh yea just saw that, I didn't know

why should I use realtime lighting if I can bake everything?

[gray frigate]

Realtime lighting can look much better

Light probes are sampled once for an entire renderer

[wraith pasture]

hmmm i was looking at other assets like this and they seemed abandoned

[gray frigate]

Realtime lights can vary per pixel

[wraith pasture]

also dang not on sale 😛

[gray frigate]

i complain to the devs when i find bugs, so it's at least somewhat active :p

Speaking of old tools though

RealtimeCSG is really cool

It just does not work on ARM hardware (proprietary x86-only DLL) so I can't use it

It's what I wish ProBuilder was: a brush-based level design tool

[wraith pasture]

I think thats the one. And yea I am on ARM...

[gray frigate]

you use additive and subtractive brushes to carve the level up

[gray frigate]

realtime lights can also move around, of course

You can get shadow casting with some baked light modes, but realtime lights can always cast shadows

One interesting option is the "Mixed" light

It provides:

• realtime direct lighting
• baked indirect lighting

[wraith pasture]

yea I asked them since I am on Macbook and they said cant do it without them having one themselves

[gray frigate]

This often looks close enough to being correct

It means the light fills the room up with indirect light, but can still directly hit models in realtime

[gray frigate]

There is the "Adaptive Probe Volumes" system, which basically makes grids of light probes

this is sampled per-pixel

I use something similar in VRChat called VRC Light Volumes

It can look really nice

mmm, volumetric fog

[wraith pasture]

PoseidonCSG runs on silicon?

[flat breach]

what game engine is this?

[gray frigate]

this is a VRChat world, so it's Unity with the built-in render pipeline

[gray frigate]

Yep, works fine

[wraith pasture]

Now just have to wait for a sale

[gray frigate]

It has some issues. It'll sometimes produce bad geometry (especially as you get far from the origin) and you get little fireflies leaking through mesh edges

But I really like using it

(I'm working on a fix for the latter issue, actually)

[wraith pasture]

realtimeCSG does not have any problems like that?

[gray frigate]

You get leaks when it generates geometry like this -- i pulled the vertex away from the middle edge to make it visible

a valid fix is to split edges that other vertices are touching

i just need to rewrite it in something Burst-compatible to make it speedy

[gray frigate]

I haven't used that in a while!

[flat breach]

I'm currently adding area lights everywhere,I'll set them to baked mode and bake the lighting, I've heard that the walls needed to be static right? if I have animated walls, what should I do?

[gray frigate]

You can just set the wall to be static, even if you move it around at runtime with scripts

You can also have the wall receive light from light probes. This might be really easy to see, though

[wraith pasture]

Oh well can't use that anyway

[flat breach]

static wouldn't cause the wall to not move at all?

[gray frigate]

that's just an editor thing

[wraith pasture]

I'll stick to pb until pcsg is on sale 😛

[gray frigate]

it won't let you move objects in play-mode

but the static flags (there are many of them!) don't actually stop the object from moving

[flat breach]

I don't really know about probes, I'll look at your documentation, that looks like a great tool

[flat breach]

ohh okay

[gray frigate]

the Static checkbox turns on every static flag

[thorny willow]

for me i lag if i open a project with unity 6.3. my guess is memory leak or smth

is anyone also feeling laggy on 16gb ram if opening unity editor with version 6.3?

[exotic relic]

i wouldnt say laggy, maybe seen some memory leaks tho. but itll usually tell you in console if there is a leak

[gray frigate]

i was having weird hitching issues with 6.3.0f1

(on macOS)

I remember Magnet (a window tiling application) having a bad interaction with Unity previously

i'll check if that has returned

[flat breach]

if I want to bake my scene they should be set to Contribute gl?

[thorny willow]

on other unity versions, my pc works fine but 6.3?? nah

[gray frigate]

Anything with "Contribute GI" enabled will be included when baking lights

[wraith pasture]

yea somehow in prefab mode it's a bit freezing for 1 sec when selecting something in hierarchy then trying to move in scene view

[gray frigate]

Importantly, you can still set a Renderer to use light probes, not light maps

I use this for small props

They will emit light that other surfaces can receive, but they won't get lightmapped

[thorny willow]

in my oppinion, unity 6.3 has bad performance

[gray frigate]

(lightmapping tiny complex objects is really gross, and you often get seams everywhere)

My ceiling lights are set to contribute GI, but they use light probes, not light maps

[flat breach]

light probes are like baked lighting but at different positions with different lighting?

[wraith pasture]

Perhaps they added some bugs

[gray frigate]

Each probe measures the color and direction of light at a single point

This is used to light up objects that move around

[wraith pasture]

It sometimes freezes also in playmode when I move my mouse around over the editor ui

[gray frigate]

They're calculated as part of the light baking process

Placing them by hand is remarkably bad

I use ProbeGridAndCut to quickly make grids

[flat breach]

do u have a free tool?

[gray frigate]

jinx :p

[thorny willow]

i also pressed on playmode and then guess what happend... my pc crashed and the pc asked me for a key. its that bitlocker software idk why

[flat breach]

does this tool just add them at random points? equally everywhere or it's more complex

[gray frigate]

It makes a grid. It can then delete probes that are out of bounds

For large square rooms, you just need a grid of them that fills the room

[flat breach]

ohh okay

so it just makes a grid and place probes in it and remove the probes that are out of it?

and you said that they calculate the color and intensity of lighting at a point, so that's basically the same as baked indirect lighting?

[gray frigate]

They're part of baked lighting, just as lightmaps are

Lightmaps store baked lighting for surfaces

Light probes store baked lighting at specific points

[flat breach]

ohh okay I see, so it's much better to use light probes

[gray frigate]

You use both

[flat breach]

ohh yea you're right, I add a group of light probes with the component and place them

[gray frigate]

The shadow coming off of this wall is captured by the lightmap

[flat breach]

but I can use your tool to make it faster

[gray frigate]

i think i'm using 16 pixels per meter here

you need a pretty high resolution to make the shadow look sharp enough

Light probes aren't placed that tightly

ideally, you place them where the light is changing

[flat breach]

ohhh that's what you meant by grid, you choose like a size and it places one by grid? Sorry if I'm dumb btw

[gray frigate]

ProbeGridAndCut is used to place light probes.

[gray frigate]

This is an example of lightmapping

They're two separate things.

[flat breach]

ohhh okay, to be honest it's hard for me to assimilate everything you say, I'll read the documentation you sent, I hope it covers all these things

[gray frigate]

this is one of my world's lightmaps

[flat breach]

..... I thought it was a texture calculation with the lighting,that's like a light calculation put under a texture?

[gray frigate]

The lightmapper figures out how much light is hitting a surface and stores that in the lightmap

[flat breach]

I don't understand why you'd need light probes if you already have calculated everything, I'm lost bruh

[potent geyser]

Dynamic moving objects can't be baked

[gray frigate]

You've figured out how much light is hitting the walls and floors

But how do you know how much light is hitting the player?

[flat breach]

okay so it's basically to render the contribute to gl GameObjects

[potent geyser]

Light probes let them be faked affected by the baked lights

[digital loom]

bro why i cant send a message

nvm

[potent geyser]

You just did

[gray frigate]

consider reading the automod message for an explanation

[potent geyser]

Imagine you read the bot message

[digital loom]

oh im stupid fr

[flat breach]

ohhh so it's for dynamic objects

[gray frigate]

see https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/Manual/LightProbes.html

[flat breach]

okay, so that's the same as lightmapping but for dynamic objects by zones

[potent geyser]

Yes, basically

[flat breach]

thank you so much man,I'll read everything and become a pro lol

[wraith pasture]

a third restart and it seems fixed

[split egret]

every time I enter or exit playmode, Unity likes selecting a random script in the packages folder. wth is going on?
rn it keeps selecting IMask, yesterday it was something else.

[plain dagger]

You don't have that intro tutorial stuff in the project still do you?

[junior path]

tasty

[wraith pasture]

Your game is trying to talk to you (honestly no idea)

[split egret]

intro stuff?

[fading galleon]

bro can anyone help me reduce or not at all use if statements i have to use 700+ for a random.range function please help

[pearl oyster]

I have to see this. Please

!code

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[worldly cave]

we need to actually see your code

to give our thoughts on it

[near wigeon]

jesus

[fading galleon]

yeah

im a begineer

please go easy on me

[near wigeon]

you need to use arrays

[worldly cave]

you need to learn what lists and arrays are

asap

like its imperative you learn this

[fading galleon]

okay

[lapis gate]

Honestly, I think it's fine lel

[fading galleon]

i know lists are just figured it out after i did all now im procrasnating

[lapis gate]

I mean there's only a limit amount of cards anyway

[past slate]

😅 might be a little unorganized

[fading galleon]

dont arrays are tho

[lapis gate]

Better to do a struct though to make it easy on the editor

[near wigeon]

Lists are just arrays that can resize

[fading galleon]

and the funny part is that to assign the gameobjects which are already long i need to use 700+ if statements if i didn't do any of that to get it done

[near wigeon]

which if statements you're talking about, I don't see them

[lapis gate]

There is some preference as sometimes I do prefer to access by the reference name instead of say an array index

[fading galleon]

cause i havent done them yet cause asoon as i did the math i went for help

[lapis gate]

but of course since it's cards it's easy to think of counting anyway so an array makes sense

[near wigeon]

if you want to assign the generated numbers values to cards just do that, what do you need if statements for ?

[fading galleon]

i dont what to use to assign them directly so i was using if statements to check the number and instance the object in the card positions i have set

[near wigeon]

I'd just create the cards beforehand why does each card need a Gameobject field per suit

should be like an enum or sum

[fading galleon]

im making a drawing mechanism

thingy

[near wigeon]

well yea but not sure why you need so many fields per card

[fading galleon]

well there is 52 cards in the deck and each card has its own prefab so i need to list all of the cards/prefabs to instance them

[near wigeon]

make card data SOs if you want tangible objects you can assign stuff in editor, or if you want plain Objects then nested loop through the suits available per card amount to create them or Component

foreach (Suit suit in System.Enum.GetValues(typeof(Suit))){
            for (int value = 1; value <= 13; value++){
                Card cardObj = Instantiate(cardPrefab, deckParent);
                card.Init(suit, value);
                deck.Add(card);
            }
        }```

[near wigeon]

what kinda card game do you want to make, whats the random values for

[neon nacelle]

I am trying to make a projectile object self-destruct upon collision with any rigid-body object. The problem is, it works for everything in the game except the terrain. The terrain has a "terrain collider" component. I have tried rays and OnTriggerEnter. I can't add a rigid body to the terrain. The projectiles do not collide with the terrain; they only phase through it. Is my only option to set a timer for the projectile to despawn?

[plain dagger]

Does the projectile have a rigidbody?

[neon nacelle]

Yes. Both a box collider and a rigid body. Also set to isTrigger

[lapis gate]

Ray should work regardless so I'd double check you're doing it correctly

[near wigeon]

why would they collide if they are triggers?

[neon nacelle]

I have no idea lol. I'm honestly using bits and pieces from different tutorials and putting them into one project. I'm new to all of this.

[neon nacelle]

I'll double check

[near wigeon]

are you use a dynamic rb or kinematic ?

[neon nacelle]

I assume dynamic since kinematic is off

[near wigeon]

https://unity.huh.how/physics-messages/trigger-matrix-3d
as long as your bullet is Trigger with a Rigidbody it should hit trigger message from the terrain collider no problem

[neon nacelle]

I'll look into that as well. Maybe I messed up the terrain

[near wigeon]

how are you moving the projectile

[worldly cave]

yall think i can approximate musgrave noise by multiplying 2 simple noise nodes 🤔

[sly lake]

Raycasting should also work as long as the terrain has a terrain collider

[near wigeon]

ya raycast can fix any speed issues concerned with physics and hit messages

too fast and I don't think it will be reliable without Continuous collision on , and if OP somehow moving with translate

[sly lake]

Yeah looks like three perlin noises (two for value, one for hue).

[neon nacelle]

Through a script that applies force to the cloned bullets when fired from a gun. The clones should have rigid body and box collider on. If this is what you mean

[neon nacelle]

I tested if it was speed. I just let the prefabs fall down and they phased through the ground.
I don't know if this matters but I used terrain toolbox for my terrain

[near wigeon]

oh as long as its AddForce then yeah should be good to go

[near wigeon]

they phase through cause its a trigger but doesn't mean it shouldnt trigger OnTriggerEnter, but this makes me suspicious

I don't know if this matters but I used terrain toolbox for my terrain
so its a regular mesh ?

idk what terrain toolbox is

Terrain collider only works with unitys built in Terrain afaik
otherwise you want a Mesh Collider if its a mesh

[neon nacelle]

Terrain toolbox is a package that turns heightmaps into terrain chunks. It basically just does the sculpting of the terrain for you based off of .pngs of geographical data

[near wigeon]

can you screenshot the terrain inspector rq

[neon nacelle]

This is what terrain toolbox creates. So it's still terrain

[near wigeon]

oh okay still regular terrain then

use your bullets raycast and see if its detecting that collider at all

[neon nacelle]

Yeah that's what stumps me. Everything works. A ball can drop and roll, its just projectiles that dont work.

I tried the raycast thing. See the problem is though, is projectiles register a hit with rays and OnTriggerEnter with everthing else except the terrain lol

[near wigeon]

must debug further, there's usually an overlooked reason somewhere why..

[dapper topaz]

FUCKING HELP ME IT WONT GO AWAY

[safe finch]

👋

[dapper topaz]

ALL I CLIKED WAS PROBUILDERISE

[near wigeon]

if the mesh is too complex it can happen

[neon nacelle]

Probably. I'll figure it out some time this decade

Or the next

[tall hearth]

gee someone's bossy

[dapper topaz]

IT WONT LET ME CLOSE IT

[tall hearth]

well yeah it's doing something

[near wigeon]

end task

[tall hearth]

also calm down typing in all caps wont make someone want to help you any more

[dapper topaz]

doesnt let me

[tall hearth]

nav since you're here do you know vertex (the mod's) website link they got in their bio i normally go through their profile to get to it but they aren't active atm

[near wigeon]

difficult to help from this end without knowing / seeing more on the setup and all, but ultimately its easier for you to debug it cause you're at the computer lol

[near wigeon]

you mean https://unity.huh.how ?

[tall hearth]

yeah ty ❤️

[near wigeon]

time to bookmark it 😉

[tall hearth]

lol maybe

[near wigeon]

through windows Task Manager?

it should

[dapper topaz]

it makes the noise thing and stays

[tall hearth]

gonna be slapped on beside the other 15 dev websites i have bookmarked

[near wigeon]

🤔

[near wigeon]

only 15 ?

[tall hearth]

should there be more 😅

[near wigeon]

I think I got 15+ folders alone in Unity/Dev

[tall hearth]

do you have admin access on your computer? not sure why it wouldn't

[near wigeon]

but yeah, if you throw it too complex of a mesh to probuildarize it can send probuilder into a frits

[tall hearth]

hm this unfortunately doesnt have what i was looking for, a way to take combine two dynamic meshes into one if i have arrays of the triangles and vertices of both

might've been mixing the website with another one

[near wigeon]

its more about troubleshooting hows not something this specific

[tall hearth]

yeah yeah which is why i mentioned i might've mixed it up with another :/

[near wigeon]

I only know something like catlike coding if you extract enough info about dynamic meshes but even so I think this is highly specific

you already have the arrays of both so you're half way there

just combine the arrays no? and recaluclate not sure..
I found this https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Mesh.CombineMeshes.html
not sure if it will help

[tall hearth]

i could get more specific by saying i have a marching cubes script made and want to use it as a terrain creator but have the base game not use marching and instead just the mesh data and as far as i know having a few large meshes is better than many tiny ones no?

[tall hearth]

i thought this maybe but im also not entirely sure if combining them would keep world position data (so say one chunk at pos (16,0, 16) and another at 32, 0, 16) would the meshes when combined be both at (16, 0, 16) or not, since i'm still not sure how they even fully work

[near wigeon]

probably best asked in #1390346827005431951 . This is wayy too above my smool monkee brain

[tall hearth]

just combine the arrays no?
will try this though (also sorry bout the ping blame discord)

[near wigeon]

all good lol
best of luck hope you find your solution

[tall hearth]

ah wait this might not work since Triangles is just an int reference to the vertices array so combining them would have to be done from just the Terrain map with a singular huge march over the whole map (the set of multiple chunks) after i combine that

[unique light]

Yo guys if I download unity editor from the website not on the hub will I still be able to make vr games

[tall hearth]

or so i think cause

Vertices.Add(VertPosition);
Triangles.Add(Vertices.Count - 1);

this is what's used to add to the arrays to create the data

hmm my computer will hate me if i tell it to do a 256 x 256 x 256 march (would be ine 1 frame) which is what i'd have to do (256 being an arbritrary large number)

[unique light]

Can I?

[dapper topaz]

its been 33 mins still not gone

[unique light]

Whats the problem

[dapper topaz]

ITS GONEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[near wigeon]

sure

Hub just makes managing modules / project convenient.. don't see why you wouldn't want to use it

[violet thunder]

When combining meshes you'd need to remap the other vertex indices/triangles so they match properly. With a Dictionary<int, int> for example

Each triangle is three indices pointing to the vertex array

Not sure why wouldn't CombineMeshes work here. Maybe you need to shift all of the vertices afterwards to keep the world pos, but it'd probably still be less work

[tall hearth]

yeah i gathered this from reading my marching cubes code

[fair cove]

Why do you think you might not be able to? Youll likely have to make a new project and select your downloaded version with a template through the Hub anyway, but all the Hub does when you make a new project with a template, is import specific packages, which you could manually do as well in any version of Unity, regardless how you get the actual software

[unique light]

Hey guus

Can I ask a simple question

[violet thunder]

Wyh would you ask to ask

[near wigeon]

you already did

[tall hearth]

im sure it would, just not sure if you can turn a Combined mesh into the triangles and vertices to be saved and called later

[unique light]

I cant make a project cuz this keeps happening

Anyone have a fix?

[violet thunder]

You can just read them from the mesh, no?

[near wigeon]

https://screenshot.help

[tall hearth]

can you? im not sure tbh

[balmy kettle]

!logs check the logs to find out why the projects aren't being created correctly

[vagrant root]

📝 Logs

Documentation

Editor logs

Windows: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Unity\Editor\Editor.log
MacOS: ~/Library/Logs/Unity/Editor.log
Linux: ~/.config/unity3d/Editor.log

Unity Hub

Windows: %UserProfile%\AppData\Roaming\UnityHub\logs
Mac: ~/Library/Application support/UnityHub/logs
Linux: ~/.config/UnityHub/logs

[unique light]

Alright

[violet thunder]

Mesh.GetVertices/Triangles/Normals etc.

[tall hearth]

nvm you can https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Mesh.html gave an* example

[tall hearth]

i'll do the CombineMesh then ty

sounds alot easier than trying to mesh with the triangles of each mesh or making my computer run a large computation (the marching cubes across the whole map) to combine it

[unique light]

[Licensing::Client] Successfully updated license, isAsync: True, time: 0.00
[Licensing::Client] Successfully resolved entitlement details
[Licensing::Module] Licensing Background thread has ended after 1.40s
Assertion failed on expression: '!projectPath.empty()'
Exiting without the bug reporter. Application will terminate with return code 0

projecxt path empty?

[balmy kettle]

Look at where the hub is attempting to create the project, not where you try to open the project that wasn't successfully created in the first place

[unique light]

oh so chjeclk hub logs

check

[balmy kettle]

Yes

[unique light]

kk

[unique light]

u mind checking thius out https://pastebin.com/iyVZZ9uS

did u see u it

fixed it

[unique light]

Can anyone help when u download unity off the website can u install Android support

Cuz im making a game and i dont have android support

And i cant press add modules

And I cant reinstall cuz yk it wont wokr

[neon nacelle]

or Windows key + shift + S works really well

[vagrant geyser]

Hello! Any idea of what's happening here in Unity 5.6 with 3DS support? The viewport seems ok, but in Citra its completely messed up.

Should be like this:

[vagrant geyser]

and also:

i have put nothing on the lower lcd

[worldly cave]

im sorry but im not following here? is this some kind of emulator and youre having trouble with it or?

[vagrant geyser]

citron and also the 3ds itself

[worldly cave]

yeah we cant help you with that

[mystic abyss]

Wait, was the 3ds port of ocarina of time, a unity game?

[vagrant geyser]

nah, thats mine

[vagrant geyser]

so none of the 120k peaple here uses Unity 3DS

ok

[worldly cave]

none of the 120k people here are allowed to help you with emulation of any kind

[vagrant geyser]

thats mine

emulation isnt crime

these files are mine

[worldly cave]

i agree, but the powers that be dont

[vagrant geyser]

i tested on my 3ds itself too

[mystic abyss]

Wait if they're making a 3ds game themselves, wouldn't that's be fine?

[vagrant geyser]

yeah, thats what im curious about

[worldly cave]

and you recreated those ocarina of time assets yourself?

[vagrant geyser]

nah, found on sketchfab

that doesnt matter. the code is mine, and so the settings and project. this game haven't been sold directly by nintendo for years

they just dont earn money with it

im not asking for a copy, the game and project is mine

and thats just a test

i just want to learn how to use Unity 3DS

[mystic abyss]

Help may be limited tbh, not all will have a 3ds but even those who do, experience with an old 5.x unity version would lower the number of people, even more for those who are familiar with using it for homebrew 3DS games

[vagrant geyser]

yup

the only one I know that uses it is the owner of undertale 3ds

and he doesnt know about it

cooingmaxito

seems like PICA200 - 3ds gpu - is recieving something wrong

[mystic abyss]

Something like this, you're probably going to need a lot of hail mary trial and error

Maybe try running what you have on actual hardware, perhaps it only emulated weirdly

[vagrant geyser]

i tested it. created the CIA and installed on 3DS. the same.

[exotic relic]

Thats pretty neat. The audience in that platform may be a bit limited tho lol. Would suggest starting new with Unity6 and switching from javascript to C#

[vagrant geyser]

it is in C#

idk if unity 6 has 3ds support

it seems not to clear the screen

[exotic relic]

ah my bad, so i guess unity 5.6 added c# support but was still transitioning away from js

[vagrant geyser]

this only works when is 2D

complete 2D works

[marble fiber]

what, Unity has been using C# since 2005

[exotic relic]

All of my projects were JS files till 2017 lol

with him using a Unity 5 project, i sort of assumed it may have been a old project that did use JS

[junior path]

You making a 3ds game?

[vagrant geyser]

i was trying to

but 3D in Unity 5 3DS is a mess. it goes all wrong idk why

at least 2D works well

[tall hearth]

haven't used unity 5 before but arent 2d and 3d projects the same besides a few packages? cant you just make the 3d game in the 2d project then?

[gray frigate]

it looks like the renderer is having A Moment

this is on a 3DS

[tight vale]

i have a question is it a good idea for me to make clash royale inspired game or is that too ambitious

[vagrant geyser]

idk

[potent geyser]

Nobody knows you. But if you mean is it feasible for a single person to achieve what an already very successful studio with multiple professional developers, artists, and every other role has done? No.

[vagrant geyser]

yeah. seems like the opengl doesnt clear the screen

[tight vale]

oh yeah i guess i should've been more specific

is it feasible for me to recreate the mechanics and make a similar although much simpler game

[potent geyser]

That's multiplayer and requires a playerbase to stay alive? No

[tight vale]

oh right i forgot that its multiplayer

WELL IS IT AT LEAST FEASIBLE FOR ME TO DO SO EVEN IF IT HAS NO PLAYERBASE AND ITS JUST ME

[potent geyser]

If you somehow make it a single player roguelike, or deck builder, or some other procedurally generated, meta progressing genre. Then possibly.

[tall hearth]

i mean to be fair im not sure i would consider most of what clash royal is as complicated

[tall hearth]

i think they were more asking if they could make a game similar to it not a game with any popularity just the idea of it which then the answer is it depends on many things like is there a time limit? what about the detail cause to be frank i doubt just one person in any reasonable amount of time can make the amount & quality of visual effects any triple A company game has, what about audio cause just one person would struggle to voice act tons of characters and create the music and sound effects.

but a base question of hey can i make a game with a template like how clash royal works then the answer is most likely a yes, but this still depends on how much work you want to put in

[wide wren]

could someone explain why Unity hub editor tried to access google's website without my permission ?
tztlva-ad-in-f14.1e100.net _ 142.250.75.142
based on my quick research, this domain links to google
if it weren't for my restrict firewalls system that I have, some info would have been leaked.

For everyone else, I suggest to make sure u only use opensource IDE like VSCode(VS Codimum no Visual studio ) , avoid win 11 at all costs ( maybe win10 with more restrict settings ) but linux is highly recommended.

[vivid cedar]

Because Unity uses GCP for its cloud services.

It could be as simple as trying to download fonts for the editor or checking for package updates or something, thumbnails or metadata for packages, stuff like that.

[tall hearth]

For everyone else, I suggest to make sure u only use opensource IDE like VSCode(VS Codimum no Visual studio ) , avoid win 11 at all costs ( maybe win10 with more restrict settings ) but linux is highly recommended.

if you're gonna make such a suggestion at least give why like whats wrong with VS that isnt with VSC

[fickle widget]

hello! im making my first project since a couple of years ago. i last used 2020.3.40f1 and now im installing 2022.3.62f3, what should i expect?

[fickle widget]

3 years since i first used unity

[robust spire]

Unity UI Toolkit doesn't have native circular progress ????

[dusk magnet]

hello! can i ask? do you guys know a tutorial or a yt channel that helps you learn the random generation world TT

[wide salmon]

!learn

[vagrant root]

:teacher: Unity Learn ↗

Over 750 hours of free live and on-demand learning content for all levels of experience!

[sly lake]

Almost everyone switched to C# during Unity 4 days 😅

They didn’t remove UnityScript in 2017 because it was still popular.

[silent mica]

To clarify, afaik, all Unity's scripting languages (Boo, UnityScript ("JS"), C#) ran on Mono, as they are all CLI languages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CLI_languages. Unity's "JS" is probably a bit further from what people consider JS to be.

[storm patio]

use #🏆┃daily-win if you want to showcase an accomplishment

[cobalt sequoia]

how do i change the excact position of this dot?

[cedar idol]

helloo hope you all doing well

how should i configure my objects to be able to transfer them

[pliant grotto]

Hi, I'm new to unity and I'm currently testing vtuber models for fun...
But I have a problem :
I need to select a material in my blendshapes and don't found them (they're correctly on the materials folders, but don't shows in the material list of the blendshapes...

Does someone have an idea how to fix that ? :x

[plain dagger]

This is some extra tool right? If so its unlikely people here know

[pliant grotto]

hm... that's what I thought, but can't do harm to ask anyway 😅
Thanks tho ! 😊

[plain dagger]

Hopefully it has documentation as it may explain why some materials may or may not show up in their UI

[pliant grotto]

I hope, I didn't find anything for now 🫠 😅

[deft rock]

the first port of call for help with any asset, is the documentation. the second is the developer of the asset

[flat breach]

hello, what are the disadvantages of using baked lighting + lightprobes? I'm new to lighting and from what I've understood, I can achieve everything by using them both

[feral smelt]

Hey guys i am new here and need some help with visual studio it wont let me enter if(input) als syntax

[charred fog]

!ide Make sure IDE is configured

[vagrant root]

💡 IDE Configuration

If your IDE is not autocompleting code or underlining errors, please configure it.

Select one:

• Visual Studio (Installed via Unity Hub)
• Visual Studio (Installed manually)
• VS Code
• JetBrains Rider
• :question: Other/None

[feral smelt]

it is nut it says its not

[patent bough]

not sure if this is the channel for this but im new and having some issues. I can't figure out how to change the squares color or add a material

[charred fog]

You have something else rendering in-front of it. Check rendering order or distance from camera

[storm wedge]

I'm not sure where to get help about this but my leaderboard (UGS) stopped working on my Unity Play WebGL build without me having changed any code. The same exact build on itch.io works just fine. I'm getting some Content Security Policy error when making the leaderboards call on Unity Play now. I posted this thread on the unity forum but not answers so far. Any ideas?

[gray frigate]

what is the exact error?

[storm wedge]

Fetch API cannot load https://leaderboards.services.api.unity.com/v1/projects/642015b7-6ccc-4d45-b03c-cccf92a287df/leaderboards/GraveyardGroundskeeper/scores/players/DJLExNpBSDbm8XPVoN4UaWNnJYnr. Refused to connect because it violates the document's Content Security Policy.

and I did verify that I'm able to load that same leaderboard on itch.io and locally editor and all the scores are still there but somehow on unity play I'm getting these errors

[gray frigate]

the content security policy determines where you're allowed to load various kinds of data from

[flat breach]

hello, what are the disadvantages of using baked lighting + lightprobes? I'm new to lighting and from what I've understood, I can achieve everything by using them both

[gray frigate]

i have not debugged CSP in a while

[storm wedge]

It gives a LeaderboardsException: Reason: ServiceUnavailable, ErrorCode: 0

[gray frigate]

but it sounds like Unity Play is providing a CSP that forbids fetching the leaderboard data

...which would be kind of weird, given that it's, you know, a Unity service

[storm wedge]

that's what I'm thinking. I'm hoping to get some traction on that post but it's really weird. It was literally working with the exact same thing for 12+ hours and then I started having these errors

[gray frigate]

Baked lights can't produce accurate specular highlights. Notice how these two emissive boxes are reflecting off the floor, but then blend together when they overlap.

There's not enough information in the baked lightmap to show two separate highlights

lightmaps can also take up a lot of space

the default lightmap settings use 40 pixels per meter

so each square meter is 1600 pixels

[flat breach]

ohh okay but that's not a big issue though, wouldn't this happen in real life too?

[cobalt sequoia]

how do i change the sxcact position of this yellow point?

[gray frigate]

open Chrome's dev tools and go to the Network tab. Clear the list, then reload the page. Click on the first entry and look at the Content-Security-Policy header

as an example, this is me loading google's page talking about CSP

(you only has to do this if you want to try to solve unity's problem for them 😉 )

This is almost certainly a problem you can't solve on your own

It's an error with how Unity is serving the game to you

[copper wyvern]

Hello Guys is really need help ! My skybox is grey and i cant fix it T-T.

[gray frigate]

If you aren't using the high-definition render pipeline (HDRP), press ctrl+9 to open the Lighting window, then go to the "Environment" tab

you can assign a skybox material here

The HDRP uses the volume system to control the skybox, so that's different

[gray frigate]

any of the "Skybox" shaders should work fine, like the Cubemap one

[tawny quail]

Does look nice (besides that strange noise pattern around the lights). Doesn't look like film grain, what is it?

[gray frigate]

that's a volumetric fog effect set to maximum garbage mode

i think it's on 4 samples right now

[tawny quail]

Amazing

Zoom into it and it looks like the game of life

[gray frigate]

this is a VRChat world, so a "please spare my GTX 1080" option is important

lol

baked specular highlights can only take you so far

the final bake will have way more samples, which'll help with that blotchiness

the fog looks much nicer when you use more than 4 samples 😉

[mint cipher]

Anyone with audio dev experience in unity? For FX sounds being triggered in runtime, it should be relatively easy to individual audio controls for each event right? Just a function added to the game logic?

[storm wedge]

You mean different volume for each sound? Yes, that's easy and if you want a "master" volume, check out audio mixer, you can easily set it by code

[gray frigate]

Yes, you can specify the volume level when playing one-shot audio

[mint cipher]

thank you

[cobalt sequoia]

How do I change the position of this yellow orb exactly

[storm patio]

do you get anything on right click

[cobalt sequoia]

No

[slim narwhal]

is there a way to mask 3d gameObjects?
i want parts of a gameObject to only be visible if viewed through or within another gameObject

[cobalt sequoia]

It just selects the whole spriteshape I think

[storm patio]

what if you change the handles to freeform (or whatever that option is called)

[worldly cave]

you could do this with renderer features i think or better yet the shader graph

[slim narwhal]

please explain how
also if particles can be masked in the same way that would really help

[gusty abyss]

Anyone have a good workflow to get MagicaVoxel -> Unity?

as it turns out, Unity doesn't do well with MagicaVoxel OBJs, the pivot and anchor points are messed up, and you have to assign the material manually. Any clues?

[slim narwhal]

otherwise im going to have to use scale :/

[worldly cave]

i mean theres really like 5 different ways approaching this

imo you should just google it, i had to do something very similliar for a material in my game and i found a lot of solutions online

and a lot of them are related to what you are looking for

i did something like this, where the bones only show up through the masked yellow areas

[slim narwhal]

for context
i want a gameObject to be visible within the floor (since the floor can have holes in it), but not within other rooms. just the room you are in.
and if you arent in the room, it will still be seen going down, but cut off right before the door frame

i could prob try and get an example

[worldly cave]

you will need some kind of stencil buffer

and you will need to write a custom shader for this

[slim narwhal]

a what?

[worldly cave]

👆

unless someone here has an out of the box idea on how to write this shader for you, you will have to look it up

[slim narwhal]

i might as well fake it using scale and player position...

[flat breach]

hi, how to see the baked probes with the adaptive probe volume?

[flat breach]

there are no probes there right?

[storm patio]

that's not really a thing

[dapper pollen]

Hey, so after I set my build to android yesterday, something bad happened. On every scene and some assets, I have lost all my lighting and some assets have lost their materials and now they are pink. I am not the best intelligent Unity developer who knows how to solve varieties of Unity bugs. Does someone know how to fix this? Thanks.

[exotic relic]

Look up a quick YouTube video on lighting, there are tons of interesting ways to see the probes and you can see them moving in realtime

I’m so glad they added that feature now, way easier lol

[worldly cave]

i have no clue what you mean by using scale but you really should not compromise here especially when learning

you are going to help yourself so much more in the future if you just take some time to understand what stencil buffering is and how it works

[slim narwhal]

i have a couple images i tried to emulate to show what I wanted

[worldly cave]

i understood perfectly fine what you were asking for

and i gave you a very good solution

all i really asked of you was to explore this solution on your own

[slim narwhal]

stencil buffers, right?

[worldly cave]

yes

[slim narwhal]

yeah im gonna try and learn that

[violet thunder]

I see an error in the console related to parsing some shader files. Probably related. What other errors do you have?

[tawdry elbow]

pov: you make a fresh new project, unity before you make anything:

damn i miss unity from a few years ago

[worldly cave]

these are editor errors

you might have to reinstall the editor youre using

[tawdry elbow]

i was on an older editor but opening it on a newer editor

[worldly cave]

so you created a project using an old version of unity and you are opening it in a new one?

[tawdry elbow]

ok that fixed it

[slim narwhal]

this just in
im scared of stencil buffers

[tawdry elbow]

slightly old

think its v6000.2.5

[acoustic patrol]

hey all! started a new 2D project and accidentally changed my Scene Editor to this 3d version. How do I go back to the birdseye view?

[sacred pawn]

Click the not2d button at right top side

@acoustic patrol

[acoustic patrol]

oh, that makes sense cx thanks!

[worldly cave]

what

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[potent geyser]

?ban 1397970784311578798 spam

[novel scarab]

iyed_lite was banned.

[bright nexus]

whats better 2d or 3d unity

[potent geyser]

Neither? That's a silly question

[worldly cave]

i like apples more than oranges personally

[bright nexus]

what is the apple

[worldly cave]

my point was youre comparing 2 different things

[stuck flower]

It's more like comparing an apple to the same apple but you're looking at it with one eye closed

There is no difference between "3D Unity" and "2D Unity"

[storm patio]

"what's better 2d or 3d games"

[stuck flower]

It's a drop-down on a camera and whether your collision functions say "2D" at the end

[bright nexus]

i mean in terms of learning which is easily learnt

[storm patio]

they're both equal

neither is harder, they're just different

you use different things

[stuck flower]

They're literally the same

[worldly cave]

Technically all projects in unity are 3d

[flat breach]

real lol and yes I've watched a tutorial thank you

hello, could you guys please tell me what I can improve in my lighting? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sjY5vAnl4A

[worldly cave]

you can start by adding actual lights

like physical sources

right now you have a corridor built out of the same repeating textures with random ghost lights everywhere

theres nothing to really critique here

[wheat mountain]

Say I have a JRPG and I have a Timeline asset to represent the way an attack sequence is animated. Is there any way to edit small details in the Timeline asset (Say for instance the character jumps to an enemy, attacks, then returns to its original position. Is there any way to modify the position the character jumps to dynamically?) but keep everything else the same (Like Cinemachine camera angles and the like)?

[worldly cave]

i mean for the jump example you would just decouple the jump, loop and landing animations and play them dynamically based on the calculated jump path

[wheat mountain]

I'm not sure what you mean

[worldly cave]

honestly im not sure i understood what youre asking lol

can you clarify a bit what exactly youre aiming to accomplish

[flat breach]

that's what I did, I've added multiple area lights, set their mode to baked, added a adaptive probe volume which I also baked, I also have a sky and fox volume with a hdri sky and an intensity multiplier on it

[worldly cave]

👆

[flat breach]

what are physical sources? Sorry but I don't understand, for me physical sources are lights

[worldly cave]

none of your lights emit from anything

they just exist

[wheat mountain]

I'm trying to get a clip off of Youtube, but Youtube's being weird about saving and editing clips so you'll have to bear with me

[flat breach]

ohhhh you mean adding lights mesh such as lightbulbs?

[wheat mountain]

Ultimately I'm trying to recreate something like this in a Timeline asset (so I can coordinate cinemachine cameras if necessary and per attack sequence), but instead suppose it's a party of enemies and I want the character to land in front of the one it's selected to attack
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxxrxRJ7G1asAT4wW-RnPgI4kDMfjHQO4p?si=rZMUZJY_Wo3ZMgBh

[wide wren]

oh well, I think its obvious by now but in case if some weren't paying enough attention to what is going on.
VS is maintained by microsoft 🚩 and by default it sends a large data online which they claim to be "primarily for telemetry, diagnostic reporting, and updates" ... I don't think any developer asks or needs it, it might be to train an Ai that would likely impact negatively the job market.

so my recommendation is to have restrict FIREWALL settings, nothing connects to the internet without your permission and revoke it as soon as the task is finished ( a custom firewall scripts is advised ).

I've recently found that many offline apps including "free games" that are online secretly try to connect to a server while we are playing, I have seen it in so many games that I believe it's a threat as u only need 3 seconds of internet to hack someone's pc.

[brave ridge]

Don't google which company made c#

[wide wren]

@brave ridge it's not about who made, it's about who is in control, if it's not us then we have a problem.

[storm patio]

so, only use OSS i guess?

no youtube, no discord, no windows, no mac, no android, no steam, no facebook, no messenger, no whatsapp, no ms office/gsuite, no github...

oh right, no unity

[brave ridge]

It really just sounds like a case of being overly scared rather than any actual security concerns then.

[hushed hamlet]

Oh that's nothing. Decompile some android APK's. You'd be surprised what is actually being sent and stored by 95% of them. Much like Visual Studio - if the product is free, then you are the revenue source.

[wide wren]

@storm patio if u have alternatives I would recommend to go for it, if not, use restrict settings and restrict firewall. that is what I do, and definitely there is no need to put your stuff on github unless u want to share it with ai and ppl everywhere, they taught us stupid shit in universities for their own benefits not ur. ( there is no privacy gurantee in github private projects, keep it on ur backup HDD )

[brave ridge]

There are alternatives built, you can even just host your own. People dont use it for a reason

[worldly cave]

"if something is free youre the product" is such a wanna-be intellectual statement im surprised people still parrot it all the time without thinking critically

[brave ridge]

Join any team, they will use github or some company restricted git version

[wide wren]

I know that, but look how much resistance I get from people that are suppose to be aware of that and teach the public lol

[hushed hamlet]

Personally, we use a self-hosted gitlab. We are far too big for github anyway :D. I think our repos are round 6TB atm

[wide wren]

its dum

[brave ridge]

🤷 ok then build something open source and get the whole world to use it instead of git

Apply that to every other app you have a problem with. Suddenly youll see its not dumb that people use tools which work, regardless if it "might train ai" or collect data

Big surprise, companies want money

You can spend as long as you like finding alternatives to every system. Other people will simply open unity and keep developing their game

[opaque jungle]

Most of the time, you dont even care about the privacy of your project.

In fact, it is the opposite and you want as many people as you can to see it

[hushed hamlet]

well, maybe one day you'll get past it, I have no control over your thoughts and feelings.

[wide wren]

have u tried googling alternative opensource? ... have u tried having a share drive on a local network ? , why are u expecting someone else to solve your privacy issues?

[wide wren]

have u tried googling alternative opensource? ... have u tried having a share drive on a local network ? , why are u expecting someone else to solve your privacy issues?

[potent geyser]

This is beyond Unity at this point. Take it to a thread please.

[hushed hamlet]

Also, just saying, nothing wrong with restricting your apps and locking down your firewall. It's time consuming but ideally worth it

[potent geyser]

Or #1157336089242112090 if you want to talk about version controls and alternatives.

[hushed hamlet]

True

[wide wren]

not your customers, you only want to show ur customers the final product not the innovative back end u worked hard for.

[wide wren]

it takes few minutes, nothing connects to the internet without permission and u should also limit how much data it can uses.

[brave ridge]

I dont think you understand what I'm saying if this is your reply. I wont continue it further but no where did i expect you to solve my privacy issues

[wide wren]

I wasn't going to offer it anyway, I'm quite busy, but my point is everyone should be more open minded and independent as technology is being developed faster than we could understand and control. and I personally have seen how many innocent apps/games tried to connect to the internet hidden under shady domains like the one I shared with "ad" word in it to make us assume it's harmless.

[delicate sandal]

Hi I´m new here. Where can I submit a ticket? I have a kind of special case

[potent geyser]

https://support.unity.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=65905

[polar basalt]

how can i have multiple Target Graphics? like have 2 images tint color?

extend the button class and override?

[vivid cedar]

If you want anything beyond what this gives you you can use the Animation transition type or implement your own custom stuff.

[gray frigate]

I'd suggest copying the Selectable class

that's where the tinting logic comes from

you can then copy Button and have it derive from your new class

[polar basalt]

maybe i just derive from button?

[gray frigate]

Oh you know what

[polar basalt]

since button derives from selectable?

[gray frigate]

I did this

[polar basalt]

yes I had a problem some time ago

[gray frigate]

copying Selectable wouldn't help, because then your class would not have anything to do with the original Selectable

[polar basalt]

about changing from input to my own input selectable

[gray frigate]

I just derived from Selectable to add an extra list of graphics

https://paste.myst.rs/63r0peco

pretty simple

[polar basalt]

sorry i dont understand exactly wym

ah i see wait

[gray frigate]

after calling base.DoStateTransition to do the tinting on the original graphic, it repeats the tinting on all of the other graphics

You'd then copy-paste the entire Button class and make it inherit from this new class

[polar basalt]

ah so it inherits from both button and this class which inherits from selectable?

is that what you mean

[gray frigate]

Your new "MultiButton" class would inherit from your new "MultiSelectable" class

it would be a direct copy-paste of the entire Button class

You can't inherit from multiple classes, hence needing to do this

[polar basalt]

selectable is button?

[gray frigate]

No. Selectable is the base class that Button inherits from.

Selectable <- Button

[polar basalt]

so cant i just inherit from button then? make my own button extension like i did with Inputfield, Toggle, dropdown...?

[gray frigate]

You could also inherit from Button, yes. You'd need to implement the multi-graphic logic in there.

[polar basalt]

ah okay then

[gray frigate]

Making a new "MultiSelectable" base class would be nice if you were going to do this many times

In my case, I had a variety of new UI components that all needed this functionality

[polar basalt]

ahh, since we have toggle, and also other stuff which use this

i see now, thank you

[gray frigate]

yep!

[polar basalt]

i still need the button extension tho no? 😭

im a little complexed on how i will start this haha

[gray frigate]

There are two options.

• Create MultiSelectable, then copy the existing Button class to make a new MultiButton class
• Inherit from Button to create a new MultiButton class

[tawny quail]

I did a test for that where it is just making a custom Graphic, and it also seems to work. No custom logic either. https://paste.myst.rs/wa61gpsl

[gray frigate]

The latter has an advantage: your MultiButton is a kind of Button, so it'll fit nicely into exisitng code

In my case, I was creating entirely new kinds of controls, so that was not relevant

I think that's how I would do this.

you will, theoretically, have some repeated code (each new "Multi" component needs the same tinting logic)

but your MultiButton will actually be a kind of Button

[polar basalt]

ah i think I'll be fine with the repeated code, its okay

[gray frigate]

yeah, sometimes it's just better to repeat yourself :p

[polar basalt]

i will need to extend the button at one point anyways so

[gray frigate]

yeah, after thinking about this further: this is obviously the better option 😉

I did it the other way because I was not extending existing control types

[flat breach]

hi, I've tried to add some fog in my scene using the Fog override in Volumes in HDRP and I can't make them look like actual fogs, how could I make it look like this?

[polar basalt]

also, is this how you do events? or do i not need to subscribe?

protected override void OnEnable()
{
    onValueChanged.AddListener((_) => UpdateCharacterLimitText());
    base.OnEnable();
}

void UpdateCharacterLimitText(){..}

this is for the InputField extension, i dont know exactly how to do onValueChanged from within it

[gray frigate]

This looks reasonable to me if there isn't a method you can override

Just make sure to unsubscribe in OnDisable

You can't use a lambda if you want to unsubscribe

you can instead just give UpdateCharacterLimitText an argument so that you can pass it directly to AddListener

[polar basalt]

awh thats sad, wdym by that exactly sorry

[gray frigate]

void UpdateCharacterLimitText(float _)

(or whatever the type is)

now you can do this:

[polar basalt]

UnityAction<string>

[gray frigate]

protected override void OnEnable() {
  onValueChanged.AddListener(UpdateCharacterLimitText);
}

protected override void OnDisable() {
  onValueChanged.RemoveListener(UpdateCharacterLimitText);
}

[gray frigate]

Show us your fog settings

For a diffusely lit scene like this, you should only really need regular fog (not volumetric fog)

[polar basalt]

ah i see thanks

[gray frigate]

volumetric fog is good when you have strong lights

e.g.

[flat breach]

haven't changed a lot because doing this made my scene look better but it's far to looking like fog

[flat breach]

yea I don't have strong lights I should remove it then

but actually when I remove it it makes my scene look worse

I'm not getting this effect at all

oh actually my attenuation distance was too big and now that looks nice

[gray frigate]

The distance is how far you can see, basically

[flat breach]

ye

do you think I should enable baked shadows on my lights components?

I heard they weren't good

[gray frigate]

If you're already baking lights, you might as well include shadowing too

note that depending on your baked lighting mode, there could be limits to how many lights overlap

Baked Indirect doesn't cast shadows from dynamic objects at all

Shadowmask does allow this to happen, but you can only have four lights overlapping at once

[atomic folio]

how is visual scripting useful

or is it useful

[gray frigate]

I think it has some value for letting non-programmers create basic game logic without having to write entire C# scripts

[flat breach]

okay thank you, what do you mean by overlapping I don't understand?

[gray frigate]

think of an RTS game's level editor: you can create "triggers" and "objectives" without customizing the game's code

[atomic folio]

so basically for beginners

[hushed hamlet]

You can change it on the fly (depending on the framework). There is some interesting long term potential if nodes can be unified between engines (which is an almost impossible but also not entirely impossible task)

[sweet charm]

Not really

[gray frigate]

(oops, forgot to reply to Abdullah's question here) There's a really helpful flowchart I found once

I need to dig it up again

https://docs.unity3d.com/2019.1/Documentation/Manual/BestPracticeLightingPipelines.html

this is an old doc page

[atomic folio]

how long has visual scripting been updated

[hushed hamlet]

There are different visual scripting frameworks, but if you mean the build in one, https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/Manual/com.unity.visualscripting.html

[gray frigate]

(i believe it was formerly known as Bolt)

I don't use visual scripting at all because I'm a solo developer and I am very comfortable with just writing C#

I do like building tools to let me do some basic logic in the inspector

i've got a procedural generation system for VRC worlds that lets me do stuff like "draw a line between these points and scatter prefabs along it"

[hushed hamlet]

Yeah, I use BP's like crazy in unreal, but not as much in Unity. We do have our own visual scripting "thing" for simple animations and tasks, but we don't use unity's visual scripting stuff for it.

[gray frigate]

"and then randomly rotate the prefabs..."

[atomic folio]

can i use it for beta programming

or for a prototype project

[flat breach]

if I want to use reflection probes, should I add and duplicate them manually or is there a group option like for light probes?

[sweet charm]

U can do it for any projects. I’m not sure how optimized it is. The folks in #1390346878394040320 should know the best

[hushed hamlet]

I think there are asset solutions for reflection probe and light probe auto-placement, but I do them by hand. Reflection probes, afaik, don't group like light probes.

[flat breach]

for light probes, I'm using adaptive probe volumes now(learn about light probes yesterday) because they auto place the probes but do you have a good asset recommendation for the reflection probes auto-placement please?

[hushed hamlet]

I can't really help there I'm afraid 🙁 I dont use anything for that

[flat breach]

ohh okay I'll try to find one on my own thanks for helping anyway

[tall hearth]

just saying, you suggested people use VSC over VS what's different here

[gray frigate]

"VSCodium" is a third party packaging of VSCode

[sweet charm]

Bro sent Mark all his info when he logs into FB

And he worries about Windows cloud service

[atomic folio]

and what will you learn when you use visual scripting

[sweet charm]

Nothing. It’s just an alternative to traditional programming

What u should ask is how to improve the logic and architecture of ur program

They come as u learn, this way or another

[tall hearth]

honestly i dont recommend it as i've said it's just a mask that looks nice to new devs but you gotta learn the fundamentals all the same but then you're restricting yourself since you are never learning the language. it'd be like learning japanese but you write the language in english phonetically so you never actually learn the whole language

[polar basalt]

its actually way easier on how i did it, because i dont need different color blocks, so for the data all i did was just make an array of Graphic, and then pass it trough override void DoStateTransition(SelectionState state, bool instant)

everything works as needed

thanks!

[charred fog]

!collab

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[wind escarp]

WHY AM I SO OBSESSED WITH A PERFECT HAIR PHYSICS AND COLLIDERS HELP

[wind escarp]

btw it's an yanderesim fangame

[pastel sequoia]

does unity have forward and back hotkey to move between file like in windows explorer ?

my stuff grows to be quite big, its getting harder to navigate

it's alt+arrow left, back. alt+arrow right, forward in explorer, while in unity they open and close all folder in selected folder.
is there similar feature to move between folder in unity ?

[dapper pollen]

Now I got just one.

[violet thunder]

How much space do you have on your hard drive?

Looks like that's the problem

[dapper pollen]

Tryna delete as much as I can, so currently, I got 251 MB free of 476 GB. But, I don't have that much files downloaded, just some alpha Unity projects I've been working on and waiting to finish another day.

[violet thunder]

You should have multiple gigabytes free on the main hard drive to comfortably use unity

It uses virtual memory (page file) on the hard drive when it doesn't have enough RAM

I think it's recommended to have 1.5x-2x your RAM amount free on the hard drive

[dapper pollen]

Kay, thanks for the info. I'll try to do that.

Also

What do I do if that is unsuccessful?

[violet thunder]

Surely you can shave off a few gigabytes out of 476

You can use something like TreeSize to quickly check what's taking up space on your PC

[slow dirge]

If you only need projects on your disk for backup and don't work on them actively, deleting their library folders should free some space.

But ideally use some kind of cloud version control for backups/storing projects that you are not working on and delete them on your machine.

[wheat mountain]

So are there ways to modify animation tracks in Timelines at runtime? Or what ever instance of the Timeline asset the playable director uses? Say I have an animation track where a character runs up to a selected enemy, attacks, then moves back to its initial position (Like a JRPG). How would I be able to modify the keyframes of this animation track so that the character had a consistent speed moving to the enemy no matter what enemy was picked?

[umbral dawn]

is it normal that unity take 20 -30s to enter play mode? I feel like unity is getting slower. I'm using Unity 6.3 and I'm on mac M1 2020. Each time I open unity, it runs smoothly. after a few compile and run, it gets slower and slower. does this happen to anyone?

[slow dirge]

Doesn't sound normal. Check the domain reload report in the editor logs to see what's taking more time.

[ancient flume]

What's the playable terrain manipulation mechanic called?
Like Minecraft, where you can mine, and build, and.. that kinda stuff?
I wanna search some techniques but I don't know what to search for

[balmy kettle]

minecraft is specifically voxels, but there are other techniques you can use

[ancient flume]

Yeah I'd like something non-voxel based

Which is... hard to do right

Especially hard when you don't know what terms to search for

[balmy kettle]

then you probably shouldn't have used a voxel game as your example of what you are looking for

anyway, you can literally search "terrain manipulation" to find other more relevant keywords to search

[ancient flume]

I just used it because 'terrain manipulation' felt too vague

Yeah no, it only shows how to manipulate terrain as a dev

Not from a playable perspective

[balmy kettle]

i don't know what to tell you, mate. i am finding plenty of information, especially after appending "without voxels" since you specifically don't want that 🤷‍♂️

[ancient flume]

Can you show me some examples of what you're finding?

[balmy kettle]

you have the same google that i have. try using it

[ancient flume]

My google is showing nothing relevant
Why are you being so passive aggressive? I came here for help, not to get an attitude

[slow dirge]

Try "unity terrain modification editing runtime".

[umbral dawn]

thanks.
Domain Reload Profiling: 8367ms I guess this is the problem?
SetupLoadedEditorAssemblies (3840ms)
ProcessInitializeOnLoadAttributes (3148ms)

but how to lower the time?

[slow dirge]

Is there no more detailed breakdown? Could be a bit before or after these logs.

Neither should be growing with each reload though.

Well, the second one might be. Maybe...

[umbral dawn]

• Finished resetting the current domain, in 7.392 seconds
  Domain Reload Profiling: 8367ms
  BeginReloadAssembly (143ms)
  ExecutionOrderSort (0ms)
  DisableScriptedObjects (7ms)
  BackupInstance (0ms)
  ReleaseScriptingObjects (0ms)
  CreateAndSetChildDomain (31ms)
  RebuildCommonClasses (26ms)
  RebuildNativeTypeToScriptingClass (10ms)
  initialDomainReloadingComplete (18ms)
  LoadAllAssembliesAndSetupDomain (776ms)
  LoadAssemblies (514ms)
  RebuildTransferFunctionScriptingTraits (0ms)
  AnalyzeDomain (336ms)
  TypeCache.Refresh (267ms)
  TypeCache.ScanAssembly (246ms)
  BuildScriptInfoCaches (56ms)
  ResolveRequiredComponents (9ms)
  FinalizeReload (7394ms)
  ReleaseScriptCaches (0ms)
  RebuildScriptCaches (0ms)
  SetupLoadedEditorAssemblies (3840ms)
  LogAssemblyErrors (0ms)
  InitializePlatformSupportModulesInManaged (14ms)
  SetLoadedEditorAssemblies (4ms)
  BeforeProcessingInitializeOnLoad (185ms)
  ProcessInitializeOnLoadAttributes (3148ms)
  ProcessInitializeOnLoadMethodAttributes (486ms)
  AfterProcessingInitializeOnLoad (2ms)
  EditorAssembliesLoaded (1ms)
  ExecutionOrderSort2 (0ms)
  AwakeInstancesAfterBackupRestoration (6ms)
  Asset Pipeline Refresh (id=f8d7aa0b560a14cb19580416fe03d110): Total: 13.253 seconds - Initiated by InitialRefreshV2(ForceSynchronousImport)
  Summary:

Asset Pipeline Refresh (id=f8d7aa0b560a14cb19580416fe03d110): Total: 13.253 seconds - Initiated by InitialRefreshV2(ForceSynchronousImport)
Summary:
Imports: total=0 (actual=0, local cache=0, cache server=0)
Asset DB Process Time: managed=0 ms, native=10416 ms
Asset DB Callback time: managed=32 ms, native=22 ms
Scripting: domain reloads=1, domain reload time=976 ms, compile time=1746 ms, other=59 ms
Project Asset Count: scripts=2901, non-scripts=28039
Asset File Changes: new=0, changed=0, moved=0, deleted=0
Scan Filter Count: 1
InvokeCustomDependenciesCallbacks: 0.001ms
InvokePackagesCallback: 24.698ms
ApplyChangesToAssetFolders: 0.658ms
Scan: 1848.737ms
OnSourceAssetsModified: 0.001ms
CategorizeAssetsWithTransientArtifact: 145.416ms
ProcessAssetsWithTransientArtifactChanges: 76.674ms
CategorizeAssets: 676.400ms
ImportOutOfDateAssets: 7416.191ms (5661.928ms without children)
CompileScripts: 1745.844ms
ReloadNativeAssets: 0.046ms
UnloadImportedAssets: 2.986ms
EnsureUptoDateAssetsAreRegisteredWithGuidPM: 3.381ms
InitializingProgressBar: 0.000ms
PostProcessAllAssetNotificationsAddChangedAssets: 0.000ms
OnDemandSchedulerStart: 2.006ms
PostProcessAllAssets: 32.528ms
GatherAllCurrentPrimaryArtifactRevisions: 0.000ms
UnloadStreamsBegin: 4.875ms
PersistCurrentRevisions: 0.778ms
UnloadStreamsEnd: 0.001ms
GenerateScriptTypeHashes: 5.939ms
Untracked: 3025.565ms

[slow dirge]

8sec for a reload is not too bad. If it actually grows over time you should save this data and diff with a later log to see what exactly grows.

[umbral dawn]

will do

[dapper pollen]

Now hold on. For some reason, on the android platform, this issue occurs but on the Windows platform, it works normally.

[solar panther]

Hey, does 13 year old is allowed to be voice acted on my Unity Game?

[slow dirge]

Unity doesn't really impose any restrictions, unless they're imposed by the laws of your country(and/or possibly US).

But I'm not a lawyer, so don't quote me. 🤷‍♂️

[vivid cedar]

Yeah this would fall under your local labor laws. Unity is not involved.

[solar panther]

Wait, there is restriction of Unity?

[potent geyser]

Of course, if you're using it for something that is illegal.

[slow dirge]

There are laws that apply to various software or content creation and distributed that would affect unity projects along with any other similar software. They're not unity specific restrictions...

[solar panther]

Uhm, ok but I've must be careful.

[sudden ruin]

bumping this ^

[slender lion]

Why does my brush just not exist

Ignore my ramblings of insanity for naming

[slender lion]

Had to go to the past then back to the future

[proven niche]

hello

[slender lion]

https://nohello.net/en/

[proven niche]

wait ur actually right

[slender lion]

Indeed

[proven niche]

are you working on any projects right now

[slender lion]

Besides my avatar nah

[proven niche]

like on a game or

[slender lion]

No

[cedar idol]

scale distortion when parenting picked objects to a CarryPoint under a non-uniformly scaled rotating platform in Unity

object become flat when i pickup them

[safe garden]

bit of a n00b q, how can you apply 2 materials to certain faces of a mesh? I noticed here there are 2 materials applied (1 separate material for the darker trim on the sides) but when I apply a material by drag dropping onto the mesh, it only applies the single material, not several

[slow dirge]

It depends. Adding extra materials basically renders the last submesh again with that material, though the order depends on the shader and material settings.
If adding it doesn't affect visuals, the first mat likely renders over it later.

You can confirm for sure in the frame debugger.

[mystic turret]

it wont let me extrude edges how do i fix

[slow dirge]

Likely because it's a quad that only have one face. Extruding it would be the same as just moving faces up.
Juat a guess.

[mystic turret]

whats a quad

[slow dirge]

A type of mesh/shape.

[mystic turret]

how do i give it more faces

[slow dirge]

Maybe try using a cube as a base.

[mystic turret]

ok

[mystic turret]

i need a plane for a map tho

[modest pelican]

i am new to unity/game dev but not to programming and wondering about a convention im seeing

when handling input, i often see this kind of structure:

private Vector2 direction;

private void Update() // or some function associated with an input action 
{
  direction = // retrieve input
}

private void FixedUpdate()
{
  rb.velocity += direction; 
}

--something to this effect. but i wonder, what is up with this "direction" field that gets assigned in Update and then used in FixedUpdate? why are we making a "middle-man" for the input, instead of just using the input itself?

[copper gust]

update runs every frame, fixedupdate runs at a fixed amount (usually 50 per second as default)

you want to poll input as soon as you can but you want anything physics related to happen in fixedupdate to it's handled correctly

[modest pelican]

i figured it was something like that but then i also wonder, whats the actual semantic difference between polling input in FixedUpdate vs. Update? wont Update and FixedUpdate run at the same time? that is, on any frame FixedUpdate runs, Update should run (not the other way around). so, any input polled in between doesnt matter, its essentially going to use the same input it would use as if you polled it in FixedUpdate, because every frame FixedUpdate runs, Update will also run, which will poll the input and therefore any input since the last FixedUpdate is ignored either way

[copper gust]

To be completely honest I forget all the specific details but I believe issues can arrise where if your checking for input down or up you may miss that in fixedupdate

which is the big factor that makes you check in update

and having to do physics stuff in fixedupdate is the big reason you do acts in fixedupdate

[pearl oyster]

It's ok to check if input is being held in fixedupdate. You can't check for down or up because you can either miss inputs or read them twice

[modest pelican]

what about down/up is special compared to left/right?

[copper gust]

no no

as in

[pearl oyster]

Key down. Not a direction

[modest pelican]

oh lmao

[copper gust]

pressing the key
the key being held
unpressing the key

[earnest swift]

Hiii I'm new to unity for vrchat

[copper gust]

hi, we mostly can't help with vrchat here

specific vrchat servers are the goto for that

[earnest swift]

I see, I see

[pale coyote]

If I have a pc game played with a keyboard. Will it work on macOS with the same controls?

[steady ferry]

why is the scene kind of blurry any way to make it clear?

[sweet charm]

Update() and FixedUpdate() don't run at the same time. The explanation made it clear. Frame rate fluctuates depending on the settings, system and optimization, and so is the frequency of which Update() is called. Input polling is just the introduction to input. The best way to do it is with the new event input system https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.17/manual/index.html

[boreal river]

I see its good looking

try to play with environment settings in lighting window

check directional light and skybox as well

but I really cannot understand the problem

like the source

I see its fine

[mystic abyss]

Is there a setting that lets the editor run in the background, without me having to specifically do something within the GUI?
ive got a class with [ExecuteAlways] which just moves an object around, but it remains stationary unless i wiggle the mouse around over the scene view (its fine when in play mode)

Perhaps its just the way the editor behaves (this movement thing is just for testing something out)

[ionic rover]

Is unity broken?

It doesn't read cfg files fully

which results in absence of props

[wheat mountain]

So I'm looking to create a system that allows me to play attack animations in a JRPG like this, but I'm not quite sure how to go about it. My first instinct is to store them as Timeline assets given all the camerawork in the animation and just play the asset when the attack is selected, but as you can see from the clip I would need to be able to modify the Timeline asset (or the playable instance if I understand the system right) so that the attack actually hits the right enemy in cases of single target attacks and the like. But, as far as I'm aware, Timeline assets don't allow for such things. So how would I accomplish such a thing?

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxt5BmvbcGIosHsw4LLeH1vD4Yaks0iqJ5?si=5M312OtUcb-n6O2j

[stark trench]

anyone has a problem with signing into Fab from inside unity project? i am getting "please sign in to fab from your browser" but nothing happens

[magic marsh]

Can anyone point me in the right direction or give me ideas? Im trying to replicate final fantasy tactics Advance shadow system my own isometric 2.5d game.

[potent geyser]

Looks like it's just a sprite that's positioned above the tile that is below the character?

[magic marsh]

Right i use z as the sorting rule so the shadow sprite, character, and tilemap live on the same sorting order. The pivot of a tile is in the middle of its top face, the pivot for the character is at its feet. My problem is how i get the shadow to stick to the floor, making sharp y changes when entering tiles with z (height) differences. I figured i could hard lock the x axis to follow the player (which seems to work) but the logic for the shadow to be aware of when to glide along a tile with the same z, and then drop or elevate sharply on different z's--still alude me. I havent found any posts, any tutorials or videos on this kind of thing.

[flat breach]

hello why am I getting this weird effect? this is something I mostly didn't have and since I've added reflection probes, it got worse

[delicate elbow]

Can anyone help me with this? I have a button with an onpointerenter and onpointerexit which make it bigger when you hover over it, but for some reason its getting triggered if you put the mouse under it

[potent geyser]

It shouldn't be hard. The shadow is it's own object that moved laterally with the unit.

The unit should know the height of the terrain below it, and thus the height the shadow should be at. The shadow being it's own object shouldn't factor in the player's vertical position at all.

Unless you want to hide the shadow if the terrain is too far below as a simple polish.

[flat breach]

hi, what's the best way to get a dark environment in HDRP? is it by simply putting a dark skybox?

[gray frigate]

A dark skybox will give you the correct amount of ambient light

I've found dark environments to be tricky. The human eye can cover a really wide range of brightnesses

(i'm assuming you're talking about an outdoor environment here)

your choice of tonemapper will matter a lot

ACES makes dark areas really dark, for example

[flat breach]

no indoor, I've already tried with an outdoor environment and it wasn't fully dark, I suppose I should use some post processing in this case

[sly lake]

I use a full black skybox for dungeons

[gray frigate]

once you add reflection probes to your indoor scene, the skybox will not matter

[sly lake]

Eh, probably do both

[gray frigate]

but if you haven't done that yet, using a black skybox will give you the correct amount of light

[exotic relic]

Reflection probes contribute a lot to darkness

[flat breach]

ohh okay I see, it's more like an adjustment, it doesn't really change my environment's intensity

[gray frigate]

if you don't have reflection probes and your skybox isn't black, then everything will be receiving light from the skybox

[flat breach]

I planned to do that thank you

[sly lake]

Exposure is the main lever to control how bright the scene appears

[gray frigate]

The tonemapper uses an exposure value to decide what the "midpoint" light level is

[flat breach]

ohh okay but why is that so? reflection probes is the only thing I've not really understood yet, I've added them to my scene because someone told me to and I read the documentation but it still didn't get into my brain

[gray frigate]

reflection probes are a 360 degree image of the surrounding world

they provide light when a surface looks shiny

importantly, everything looks kind of shiny at shallow angles

[flat breach]

yeeee I planned to do that, do you think I should like use mainly exposure? or use a dark skybox without reflection probes? Maybe I should opt for a dark skybox without reflection probes and then adjust the exposure to make it not full dark

[sly lake]

They also contribute to diffuse lighting

[gray frigate]

yeah, everything will use the reflection probe to some degree

especially metallic objects

[gray frigate]

after making your skybox black, the entire scene will be pitch-black

[flat breach]

well in summary, they're 360 degrees probes that precalculate if baked the reflections around and provide the light to make these reflections happen?

[gray frigate]

you then need to add lights (and give them the correct intensity values)

[gray frigate]

Yes, they're usually baked in advance with the rest of your lighting

[flat breach]

why is it better to use lights than exposure? Like what's the difference

[sly lake]

You need both

[gray frigate]

these are two unrelated concepts

lights emit light into the world

your exposure setting decides how to turn those light values into colors

it's like how your eyes adapt when you go into a bright or dark place

[flat breach]

I did complete a bright scene and asked for opinions about it, people told me to add physical light models because that was looking weird to have light coming from "nowhere", in this case I don't want the player to think he's in a lighted world, if I bake some lights, wouldn't that be a problem? I also saw in your screenshots about your backrooms game that you were using some kinda light meshes on the ceiling with an emissive material

[flat breach]

ohh okay

[flat breach]

ohhh yeaaa okay

but what you're talking about there is the automatic histogram mode, if I set it to fixed, that would act like light wouldn't it?

[gray frigate]

I do not see how these two things have anything to do with each other:

• adding models for the light sources
• baking your lights

[gray frigate]

Again, "exposure" and "light sources" are two completely unrelated things

[sly lake]

No, it simulates a camera. Exposure is how long the sensor is exposed. The longer the exposure, the more light enters it.

[craggy pollen]

that is because the ui element is bigger than it shows. maybe you got some offset outlines, check the troigger area of you ui element

[gray frigate]

The sun emits light that bounces off of things and into your eyes. It's a light source. Your eyes adjust so that you can clearly see. That's exposure.

[flat breach]

what I mean there is people told me adding lights without light models is weird and in my dark scene,I don't want the player to think there are lights, like an abandoned forest where no lights would appear, and you told me to add lights after having my dark skybox which is why I'm asking if this wouldn't be weird

[sly lake]

You need to have a light source to see

[flat breach]

OHH I understand

[gray frigate]

If you're genuinely in a dark forest at night, then everything should be pitch black. However, this doesn't make for a very fun game.

[flat breach]

thank youu

[flat breach]

exactly

[gray frigate]

You can use a dim night-sky skybox and a directional light that's set to be pretty dark

(just a few lux for the directional light)

[storm patio]

moonlight typically means it's not pitch black irl tbf

[craggy pollen]

are you using hdrp?

[flat breach]

that was just an example, my game will be indoors

[flat breach]

yes

[craggy pollen]

hmm, why

[flat breach]

I've heard it was better for high end devices and better graphics which is why I switched from urp to it

[gray frigate]

for dark indoor environments, you can use a variety of weak light sources

automatic exposure will adapt as you move between bright and dark areas

[flat breach]

in your game, the light models at the top used emissive materials without any physical light sources right? and you baked multiple physical light sources without any models to make the environment source? I'm not sure if you get me but I really liked how it looked like

[gray frigate]

In the example here, I'm using actual lights

but in the example I showed yesterday, that was a mixture of emissive objects (the overhead lights) and normal baked spotlights (everything else)

And the skybox is black

I do have reflection probes in every room, so it doesn't really matter what the skybox is in my case

the skybox is only used if you can't find a reflection probe

[flat breach]

but why do the reflection probes stop the sky source? I thought they calculated all the lights(including the sky) and calculated the reflections around

[gray frigate]

because the reflection probe captures a picture of the surrounding world

if you can't reach see the sky, then it doesn't matter

e.g.

[flat breach]

but only for the reflections????

[sly lake]

The skybox is a fallback for the lighting system

It’s only used when there’s nothing better

[gray frigate]

Yes.

However, diffuse light comes from light probes. If the light probes can't see the sky, then the sky color also does not matter.

So, if you have an enclosed room, nothing inside of it will care about the skybox (after you correctly set up reflection probes and light probes)

Using a black skybox makes it easier to get correct results quickly.

[flat breach]

I get it but how should I do then lol? should I not add any light or reflection probes? or there's a better option to use them and have everything pitch black

[sly lake]

You need some light to see at all. Just use very little of it 😅

With the right exposure value

[gray frigate]

You should:

• Add lights
• Add reflection probes that cover the rooms
• Add light probes to fill the rooms

After baking lights, you will have a realistically dark indoor environment

[flat breach]

okay thank youu I'll do it and hope it looks as wanted

WAIT

here my volume only includes fog and a sky, and I have light probes and reflection probes, there is also no access to the sky so as you said the sky shouldn't change anything, however when I'm disabling it, it does

[gray frigate]

have you actually baked your light yet?

Your reflection probes may also not be touching your floor

I see that the ceiling didn't really change

[flat breach]

ohh right, that is maybe the issue

[flat breach]

no, but I thought you could deletr

the actual light sources after baking them

[gray frigate]

Do not delete the lights.

you want to be able to bake lights again if you make changes...

[flat breach]

ohh yea the issue was with the reflection probes

but to be honest It's kinda boring and long to put them with according sizes..

[gray frigate]

The floor wasn't touching any reflection probes, so it just fell back to the skybox

it can be tedious, yeah (light probes are even more annoying)

[flat breach]

for light probes, there is adaptive probe volume which auto places them if I'm not wrong, that's what I've used here

[gray frigate]

Oh, if you're already using APV, then that's a non-issue

[flat breach]

ye

[gray frigate]

It's not quite the same as light probes, but it serves the same purpose: storing how much light there is

I'm pretty sure I've seen editor tools for quickly sizing reflection probes by clicking on walls

[flat breach]

ohh if you can find it again, I'd be really nice,I've tried to find assets on the unity asset store and I couldn't find any

@gray frigate lastttt question but I think I really understood everything apart from one thing. Light probes and reflection probes if set to baked mode, precalculate diffuse lighting and reflections and if they can't see the sky, the sky color doesn't matter but at first when you don't have any light probes, having a sky is really important and also is the main source of lighting, when you then add light probes, these bake the entire lighting including the sky's then? because when you then remove the sky it doesn't change, so light probes basically include them ?

[gray frigate]

If a renderer can't find light probes, it uses the ambient probe

which is based on the skybox

[flat breach]

yes but this is if there are no light probes, if you bake light probes they "include" the sky right? It sounds wrong but I hope you understand me

[gray frigate]

If there are no light probes, then there are no light probes

I don't understand your question

The ambient probe will be based on the skybox color, of course.

[flat breach]

I Mean if there are light probes bruh

[gray frigate]

Each light probe will measure the light passing through that point

They look at surrounding light sources, bounced light from walls, and skybox light, if they can see the sky

If a light probe can't see the sky, the sky does nothing

[flat breach]

but in my case that's weird then, I first had a really weird looking envionment, I added a sky and it looked much better, then I added light probes and it basically didn't change anything to the environment even if it can't see the sky

[potent geyser]

#1180170818983051344 is for feedback.

[gusty abyss]

Why I can't use some bot commands 😭🙏

[craggy pollen]

#🌱┃start-here

[twilit plume]

how come different meshrenderer running same mesh that have multiple submeshes renders different parts of it despite having just 1 material assigned