💬-cells-chat

[feral cradle]

Yo

gib motivation

Please

[tranquil galleon]

Post pics of your stats in #🏆-share-your-prestige and get roles.

[kind wasp]

Sup

[tranquil galleon]

Sup

[obsidian temple]

Sup

[pure latch]

Could somebody tell me what secret achievements I am missing here? Can DM to me or spoiler it.

[dire shuttle]

do s!secrets in #🎭-semblance and semblance will tell you

[pure latch]

okj

[pure latch]

mmkay, how do you obtain badges? I see theres 9 and i have fungus 1s for some reason, not sure how I got them.

[tranquil galleon]

You get them for completing milestones in events

Do you play on pc?

[pure latch]

ya

[rancid hearth]

Anyone else buy the james webb telescope, then upgrade universe and it's inactive afterwards? Do I have to buy it again with another 50 logits?

[tranquil galleon]

Did you download the hotfix on the steam page?

[tranquil galleon]

It's a permanent upgrade, so you might have a bug on your hands. Could you send a screenshot of it in this channel?

[rancid hearth]

It says its purchased in the store still too. But its blank/inactive here in my universe

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah that doesn't look normal. Go ahead and post it in #854034806551871489 and it'll get addressed eventually

[rancid hearth]

Ok ty

Its not floating around in the orbit with the planets either

[tranquil galleon]

Artifacts are still very new so I'd imagine there are still plenty of kinks to work out

[obsidian temple]

Yep

[rancid hearth]

Im gonna try the ol turning it all off and back on again and see if that works lol

[obsidian temple]

Aight

Let's hope it works

[rancid hearth]

Awww yeahhh thar she blows

• cheers in spacepirate *

[obsidian temple]

claps virtually

[placid herald]

I thought ur game broke 💀

[static meteor]

i find it funny that this was my next objective

[placid herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/979451749314203648.webp?size=64

[obsidian temple]

[placid herald]

U want badges

[obsidian temple]

What

What does that mean?

[placid herald]

Discord badges like the nitro badge and so forth

I got them all

I can give u discord staff badge screenshots only

[obsidian temple]

How would you do that tho?

[pure latch]

I think i played the original games that this game has built upon. Funny thing is, each Era or Simulation or Event is unique. So its like multiple Tap / Click games all in 1. Very interesting idea and it definitely gives player something to do. IF I can give a suggestion for future Era/world/event.. there is this game I love on android , I won't give out the name, but it has buildings you tap on to zoom into them and each building has different work being done.

Something like A Mine, A refinery, A Smithy, then maybe a shop to sell the goods crafted. Interesting idea i guess.

[obsidian temple]

Question, how long did it take you to type that?

[turbid oar]

Bro don’t want us to know the mobile game

[obsidian temple]

I had a stroke reading that

[pure latch]

uhhh... 22 seconds?

Sorry..

[obsidian temple]

Damn!

[pure latch]

lol

[turbid oar]

Brother does not want us to be knowledgeable of the mobile game

[obsidian temple]

Ah ok

[obsidian temple]

I can't type all of that paragraph (2) in 22 seconds. For me that would be impossible

[pure latch]

||That wasn't the mobile game at all.. I just came up with my own idea from it... The game was Pot FArm... You grow weed, refine it and ...concentrates... But I didnt think was appropriate...||

[turbid oar]

Yeah I used to get ads for it a lot

[obsidian temple]

Same but my parents don't allow me to download the app

[pure latch]

lol

My favorite game

[turbid oar]

I didn’t think it was very special but maybe it’s a different one

Yeah it’s not on iOS

[polar valve]

From the Beyond guide:

The last constellation you need is Aries. After this, all remaining Star Fragments should be saved up.
Why? Is there no use for them?

[turbid oar]

Yeah

Just constellations

Until they add more

If

[rain dagger]

flatworm bad

[turbid oar]

They add more

[obsidian temple]

Yes

[rain dagger]

many flatworm are parasite

[tranquil galleon]

I doubt they will tbh. Seemed like they only were interested in zodiacs

[hollow haven]

how dare you

[obsidian temple]

Yes

[turbid oar]

Yeah

[hollow haven]

cope

[obsidian temple]

I'm not going to bed for a event in a game I have. That's just me

[tranquil galleon]

I don't actually hate the flatworm, but anyone that messes with my boy archie messes with the entire gang

[obsidian temple]

True lol

[placid herald]

Ohno a dev has betrayed #Anti-flateworm gang

[azure turtle]

Anti Flatworm is Archie's private security

[polar valve]

Should I not spend them on constellations, then?

[tranquil galleon]

Nah, I'd advise spending them. Which constellations do you already have if any

[turbid oar]

The last constellation you get is Aries. Then just save them

[polar valve]

Because spending them does nothing (since you're already at the end), while saving them allows you to purchase new constellations if they come out, which may be better than the existing ones?

[polar valve]

Scorpio, Gemini, Aquarius. Aries is next

[tranquil galleon]

Again though, the only potential reason to save frags is if they add more constellations in the future. Most of them aren't really helpful but you might as well spend your frags for completion's sake

[polar valve]

Gotcha. After this, I've only really got Meso left

[tranquil galleon]

Even if they do add more constellations they'll also be adding more levels to beyond, so there will be more guaranteed frags that way

Yeah I'm working on meso rn. Slowly approaching prestige 2

[polar valve]

Right, you'd just have potentially have a slightly slower start

[polar valve]

Still working on prestige 0 atm

But being able to keep Meso 'online' 100% will help quite a bit

[tranquil galleon]

It's definitely a tough grind, especially the last 8 or so levels

[polar valve]

Clicking is also much better in Meso than Beyond

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, but honestly as long as you stay 4x boosted and double your offline earnings you won't need to worry about it too much

[polar valve]

I don't use boosts, generally. I did a couple Research ones for Beyond, (and any free ones), but that's it

Nor do I double offline

Remember, Steam doesn't get ads for those

[tranquil galleon]

Oh right, that's rough

Honestly my worst grind thus far has been constellations. I just completed my 7th one and with 57 frags to go I'm looking at like a half a year before I finish

Since I can only rely on 3 free dwarfs about twice a day

[polar valve]

Yeah, that and the sharks are really just timesinks with no gameplay value

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, though at least sharks are just logging in without having to put any real gameplay time in

That was really satisfying to finally finish though

[polar valve]

Speaking of satisfying; I'm looking forward to rank50 meso

Should have at least 300 darwinium for those nice geodes

Since the Beyond shop is really not worth spending on

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, popping 2 diamonds at rank 50 was satisfying as hell. Can't wait to pop my next 2 at my next rank 50

[polar valve]

Oh wow, didn't realize Aries was so cheap

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah it's because it only affects 2 generators, though one of them is the best one by far

[polar valve]

3, no? Sun, Heliosphere, Alpha Centauri

[tranquil galleon]

Oh lol I always forget about heliosphere because it's so irrelevant

[polar valve]

It was great for me for a while

I think probably because I got level 2 Solar Winds, so that combined with the discount made it relevant even through Sedna

[radiant nacelle]

was i supposed to get a popup with the philosophy event, because i did, and i clickd it and i started a fully functional philosophy run, then went to the primary simulation, only to find that i cld not go back to it? was this not supposed to happen lol, the event seems to have ended quite a while ago...

not sure if this is intended or a bug, hence why i did not put this into the bugs channel

[hollow haven]

that's weird

yeah, put that in #854034806551871489

[radiant nacelle]

ok

[open canyon]

B

[bitter obsidian]

C

[austere fossil]

D

[fiery meadow]

does anyone know what’s next after terraforming mars?

[tribal forge]

Basically Nothing

[fiery meadow]

oh

[tribal forge]

Terraforming Mars is the end

[fiery meadow]

okay

wish there were more updates

[tribal forge]

this is the whole martian city tree

[fiery meadow]

Yes

I know

i see that the mars in the beyond is also terraformed :D_ _

I guess i’ll continue on the ibex thing

[noble marlin]

back when i first played this, it was still in beta and i only ever went to 1 reset and didnt know abt prestige so i gave up after resetting

i didnt know the extent of the game

but there was no mezeoic and beyond simulations

i think 2018 or 2019

idk the update log

[desert pebble]

hi everyone

[tranquil galleon]

Do s!roadmap. In #🎭-semblance

[shell shale]

i think i grinded this game a little too hard..

i just unlocked my first shark…. yet i am on stage 44 Meso, 15 beyond, and i just hit 100 trill metabits

how am i supposed to keep playing for 10 weeks? imma have every achievement except shark week in about a week

[polar valve]

I'm in a similar situation. I'll likely simply...not play

[shell shale]

sadly same

[mellow iron]

Is there some way to progress in Mesozoic faster like I’m done with primary simulation and just need to rank up my Mesozoic and beyond

[polar valve]

Primary is by far the fastest to complete, then Beyond, then Meso

There are guides pinned in this channel

[mellow iron]

K thanks

[signal forge]

i literally deleted this game and download it back

and my records are gone

[fading hemlock]

I know maybe Venus should be next

[turbid oar]

You’re gonna have 200 gigantosauruses?

[warped galleon]

Oh wait

Wait thats cool

but it still has the old image unfourtanately

ill post it in bug reporting

[feral cradle]

Yes

[tribal forge]

#🗣-cells-socials i didnt even notice that white was in a check, nice

[rich timber]

Have you checked your latest cloud save?

[shell shale]

what achievements am i missing? i assume 1 of them is alpha centuri, but what’s the other

[dire shuttle]

last thing of meso and last thing of beyond

[rich timber]

First on the left side: creating giganotosaurus, the last one is indeed reaching Alpha Centauri

[shell shale]

okay 👌🏼 that makes sense i thought it was related to the Beyond simulation

[scarlet quiver]

Ducks

[shrewd ermine]

Meso is so time consuming I'm only rank 13 in meso 😭

[dire shuttle]

the beyond is worse

[shrewd ermine]

True

Primary sim is unbelievably quick

[tranquil galleon]

Meso prestige 10 and 200 gigas is gonna take you months

[azure turtle]

...

[pure latch]

I heard theres a game patch. but steam doesnt show that the game has an update, is this patch downloaded somewhere else?

[azure turtle]

Not true

Beyond is a lot quicker than meso

[tranquil galleon]

Each level takes significantly longer on average though, it's just that meso has over 3x the number of levels per prestige

[polar valve]

Depends on how you define "significant"
I finished beyond before reaching rank 24 meso...

[tranquil galleon]

Several beyond levels took me like a week apiece. Never spent more than 2 or 3 days on a meso level

[polar valve]

Beyond...5? was pretty bad, but I found most of them relatively quick

[tranquil galleon]

Beyond 14 took me forever if memory serves

[rotund pagoda]

alpha centauri 7 😟

[polar valve]

I don't recall being more than a few hours out from some kind of progress in Beyond, and with Gemini the missions were very frequent
In meso I'm often waiting 8h+ for the next hint of progress, checking every 1/2h if the shop was kind enough to give me the one trait I needed

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah I capped at 6 to get the achievement. Not even gonna attempt to FW 7

[rotund pagoda]

people have gotten 10/11 legit

[tranquil galleon]

That's nuts

[rotund pagoda]

yea

with a ton of boosts and a lot of time ofc

[tranquil galleon]

Weird. I could usually get a minimum of 1 geode per hour pre-prestige except the final fossil ones. I get facing some issues without the benefit of offline doubling though

[polar valve]

The free geodes are 1/4h iirc, and Steam doesn't get ads/boosts

[tranquil galleon]

I was talking about the progress geodes

[polar valve]

Ah, right. Well, for example I'm *currently 1h out from the next one. ~3h for the one after that, then ~5.5h

[tranquil galleon]

Huh that sucks

[polar valve]

No dino purchase will "break even" in less than 15h

[tranquil galleon]

And your top dinos are all reasonably spec'd out?

[polar valve]

No, that's the problem. Can't get 2nd trait for Gallimimus

[tranquil galleon]

Oh that's rough

[polar valve]

This has happened before, but that time it was due to my shop mismanagement.

This time it's just bad luck

[tranquil galleon]

Tried shop manipulation?

[polar valve]

Yep, already blew like 5k on trying to force it

[tranquil galleon]

Rip

My powerhouse was velociraptor when galimimus was my most recent

[polar valve]

You can see it should appear as the only common trait that can't be ranked up

[tranquil galleon]

Oh, geez galimimus isn't even your most recent

That's rough

[polar valve]

That happened to me, but when Pachy's 2nd trait appeared that took over hard. Unfortunately I haven't been able to do the same with Gallimimus

[tranquil galleon]

I'd say spec out pachy and velociraptor if you have the mutagen for it

[polar valve]

That's how it works though
1 stage to unlock the newest
Next stage it gets 1 trait available
Next stage it gets a 2nd trait available

[polar valve]

If I knew what my RNG was going to be like, I would've done that :P
I tried to force Gallimimus instead, because that should have been likely, and better future-proof. Boosting Pachy/Velo now means not only less mutagen, but worse chance of getting Galli/Arch/etc. in the shop going forward

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah. Honestly if you're really getting slowed down it's worth it to invest in a gold geode if you can spare the darwinium

[polar valve]

Hmm. Is there an export/import, so I can reload if it gives me trash? :P

[dire shuttle]

no, no, no

[tranquil galleon]

Wdym no no no

[dire shuttle]

stone is better according to math

[tranquil galleon]

Really? Dang

Then drop a couple more stones

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, game transfer is essentially uploading and downloading a backsave

[polar valve]

Ah, only for commons though, right?
Stone: 65 cards, 1% epic, 3% rare * 10 -> 6.5 epics, 19.5 rares, 624 commons
Gold: 23 epic, 69 rare, 103 commons

Oh, but it's not actually rolling once per card, is it? So the chances are a lot lower with Gold, because you do fewer rolls overall

[rotund pagoda]

send

cause it trends better as you go up with cost as it does with basically anything

(as in what you get for what you pay)

[tranquil galleon]

It's visually apparent that gold doesn't drop 10x stone's worth of resources

However gold has guaranteed epics and rares

[polar valve]

Ugh, I was going to check but the lootbox code is following best practices so it's a bit of a pain to trace

[tranquil galleon]

So it depends on what you're going for

[rotund pagoda]

s!geodes

[noble star]

Com#8989

Geodes Comparison

The top row of the image represents the rewards from each geode at rank 50, while the bottom row represents the geode rewards at rank 4, which rank 4 is shown instead of 1 because the diamond geode isn't unlocked until rank 4. By the shown results within this image, it's highly recommended to get geodes at rank 50 for the greatest rewards for the same price as rank 4.

Diamond Geodes for da win!

[rotund pagoda]

nvm

[azure turtle]

Com, not here lol

[rotund pagoda]

it literally doesnt matter its relevant

but yea it depends on what metric you're going by

[polar valve]

That shows the approximate result of a single geode, not what you'd actually expect to see

[rotund pagoda]

lower bound*

[polar valve]

Eh, not really

[rotund pagoda]

guaranteed is lower bound

[polar valve]

Oh, sure

[rotund pagoda]

as you cant get less than 100%

idk about 'cards' tho

[polar valve]

But again, only for a single geode, and that doesn't account for stone. IT also doesn't display the chance of epic/rare on non-stone, but I guess those are also 1%/3%?

[rotund pagoda]

im pretty sure its the same deal but it doesnt say so i cant be sure

[polar valve]

And yeah, I know for sure there's a limit on unique cards

[rotund pagoda]

idk

[polar valve]

So when you try to calculate the binomial (I think) probability distribution of likelihood to get what you want, it'll be off

There's also the shop fudging, too

[rotund pagoda]

yea

im curious how many distinct cards you can get from a given geode

like i believe i usually get 5/6 commons from a diamond geode (distinct) and like 2/3 rares

[polar valve]

Anyway, if all you care about are specific commons then Stone is your best bet.
This is because the quantity of cards is almost always less important than the number of times you actually get it, due to the unique card limit
And stone offers more chances to get the card you want

[rotund pagoda]

im pretty sure ive probably experienced the limit but idk

[rotund pagoda]

if you really care about cards just buy from shop

[polar valve]

I can see some defaults but the actual values are at least two steps removed, which I can't be bothered to find

[polar valve]

I can't, that's the problem. Check the chat history right before you joined :P

[dire shuttle]

i think geogeodes don't really give more than the amount of cards needed to rank up a card

[rotund pagoda]

was talking generally

[polar valve]

There's some result fudging for rank ups, but I'm not sure that constraint [that you described] is specifically included

[dire shuttle]

yeah

[rotund pagoda]

idk ive never experienced getting rank up of a card in one geode

(w/a any cards already that is)

[dire shuttle]

I've gotten several with very low tier cards i beleive

[rotund pagoda]

rank 1 or whatever doesnt count cause thats 1 card

yea but what im like 99% sure on is that you cant get 2 level ups in one

never happened and never came close

[polar valve]

Interesting; apparently your epic card amounts increase by 5% per Meso/Beyond rank

I think that's just for the guaranteed ones

Number of epic cards in lootbox = base [usually 1] * (dino rank - 4) ^ 1.05
Number of epic cards in lootbox = base [usually 1] * (beyond rank - 3) ^1.05

[rotund pagoda]

that on wiki or how did you find that out

[polar valve]

Ah, and that only applies if you happen to roll an epic

[polar valve]

Same way I imagine the people who wrote the wiki found out

[rotund pagoda]

which is?

[polar valve]

I also see something that you can't get an epic if you don't have the required rank (which makes sense)
But also, you can't get it if you have too many of that card already (maybe 20)?

[polar valve]

✨ M A G I C ✨

[keen carbon]

we removed the restrictions for people with higher roles to allow experienced players to explain stuff more easily

[turbid oar]

Which ones?

The roles

I guess mv legend

[polar valve]

Question about Meso trait shop:
Apparently the shop prefers to show you recently unlocked traits (unlocked in last N ranks). Do you know what that is, and why it's not applying to the Gallimimus trait for me?

I have this my log, after a restart:
Preferred commons: 1 backup commons: 28, which suggests that it should apply 🤔

Okay, with some digging I foudn out that Three-Toed Feet (the Gallimimus trait) apparently is the 1 preferred common. It's just not showing up in the shop 🙃

Shop just refreshed, still same line in log, but doesn't actually appear

[obsidian temple]

ok

thanks for the head up

[shrewd ermine]

Does anyone know every role in server as idek which role requires what in here

[sinful delta]

Hi

[azure turtle]

Write s!roles in #🎭-semblance

[shrewd ermine]

Ah okay

[polar valve]

Is it maybe conflicting with the Mystery Trait option? That's all I can think of

[shrewd ermine]

By any chance do yk how long it takes to get the role once u put a ss of the requirement for a role

[tranquil galleon]

It really depends on how many mods are active. They'll get to it when they get to it so more generally = quicker

Oh, and don't ping them for roles btw

[azure turtle]

That's the worse thing you could do lol

[shrewd ermine]

Oki doki

[keen carbon]

actually the shop doesnt care that much about recently unlocked traits, it gives you whatever it thinks you need

it just gives you a lot of other traits as well as long as you keep upgrading them

can you screenshot your current shop?

[shrewd ermine]

I finally got my first 2 roles :D

Proud moment

[cobalt socket]

do you guys have a Pc version of this game?

[turbid oar]

Steam

[cobalt socket]

Thxs bub

[turbid oar]

Or web but it sucks

[polar valve]

As far as I can tell, it is supposed to choose from the preferred pool before the backup pool, for commons

[turbid oar]

Walmart👍

[polar valve]

Anyway, after...at least a dozen shop refreshes repeating this nonsense
Preferred commons: 1 backup commons: 28
It did finally show up

And now that it's shown up, it's repeatedly showing up as expected

[shrewd ermine]

So idk what to do bc I can't purchase anymore stuff in reality engine but when I look at another section like 3d part of reality engine it says I need to explore more to unlock yet there's nothing to explore I done all the entropy purchases and idea purchases

[polar valve]

If you haven't prestiged already, that may unlock more things

There's also a bunch locked beyond Mesozoic Valley progression

[shrewd ermine]

I'm on simulation 8

[polar valve]

You mean in the Terminus Chamber?

[shrewd ermine]

Yea

[polar valve]

There's 2 more I'm not sure of yet, but I'd hazard a guess that they're to do with creatures unlocked from Meso progression, since that's all I have left

[shrewd ermine]

Ah okay

[polar valve]

try s!terminuschamber in #🎭-semblance

[hallow lance]

omg im so happy now

[quaint dagger]

How do you select "Preferred Pool" of traits?

[feral cradle]

Yo

Pog

Ill be gettin'all badges

[rotund stirrup]

Isn't it crazy how much telescopes have evolved in such a short time?

[desert pebble]

Where is it?, I can't find it.

[dire shuttle]

you can click through the arrows when you click on something

[desert pebble]

Thanks

[polar valve]

It auto-selects when it generates them

If you want to increase your chances of getting a card, in theory you make sure it meets the criteria to be in the preferred pool

[turbid oar]

Just do the pinned mv strat idk

[polar valve]

That's basically it, yes

[turbid oar]

Yeah ik

I don’t like advanced logistics of mechanics and stuff

[polar valve]

🤷‍♀️

[turbid oar]

DOLPHIN

are you progressing well

[desert pebble]

He was hidden 😂

[tranquil galleon]

I'm not a fan of the pinned mv strat tbh

[turbid oar]

What

[polar valve]

All that seems to go into it is:

• Do you actually qualify for it (enough sim rank, etc.)
• Do you own few enough (I think this means it's rank <20)
• Has it been unlocked recently?
• Do you need more copies before it can rank up?

[tranquil galleon]

It makes for really slow progression

[polar valve]

I have some quibbles with the guides, but the shop manipulation is key (when it works)

[turbid oar]

Recently being last Dino right

[turbid oar]

Yeah

[tranquil galleon]

Like, if you keep your most recent 4 dinos spec'd out your rate of fossil generation should be plenty high

[polar valve]

Generally, yes. It seems to be 'Unlocked in Last N Ranks', meaning the Beyond/Meso stage you're on

[polar valve]

Depends on what you mean by that

[tranquil galleon]

I've upgraded all of my most recent 4 dinos to 8+ for both traits and I have more mutagen than when I started this prestige

[polar valve]

I definitely had more mutagen than I needed by far, when the shop strat was working

[tranquil galleon]

Getting the necessary cards for that ultimately comes down to waiting

[polar valve]

idk if you saw above, but I'm still not sure if it was bugged or just super unlucky

[tranquil galleon]

I couldn't really get my traits much past 4 until a few resets after I first unlocked them

[polar valve]

I """should""" have seen the most recent trait like right away, instead of many many refreshes later

I'm still not convinced that it would have eventually showed up on its own

I think you're right about going to 8 though

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, just pump them up as much as possible until they become obsolete. Like I said that's usually about 3 or 4 dinos back not including your most recent 1 or 2

[polar valve]

🤔 That's 4050 per trait, or 9100 per dino, if you get them all for free

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, you usually get enough to cover it from your progress geodes since it's staggered over multiple resets

Plus once you get above 35ish stone geodes are like 700+ mutagen a pop

[polar valve]

Sounds like it's something that changes as you scale up, then

[tranquil galleon]

Honestly though your biggest problem is definitely a lack of ability to get free offline doubles

[polar valve]

Ah, this again

[tranquil galleon]

I hope they find a way to syndicate ads on pc

One day

[polar valve]

I really don't like how every strat seems to assume the mobile perks

The progression seems pretty different without them

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah it 100% is. I would have died without them in 45-50

Definitely reccomend switching to mobile temporarily when you get higher up

[polar valve]

Anyway, a reasonable graduation of trait ranks (based on my experience, in hindsight):
rank 3 through Triceratops [#1 ~ #5]
4 through Saurischia [#6 ~ #8]
5 Sauropoda, Theropoda
6 Compsognathus, Velocirapto
7 Pachycephalosaurus, Gallimimus

+-1 based on your luck/income/etc.

Not sure what Meso ranks those appear on though

[tranquil galleon]

I ended up about 2-3 levels above that on average for this cycle, but I also had the benefit of superfluous mutagen because of the prestige

[polar valve]

That sounds reasonable

[tranquil galleon]

But yeah, that set seems reasonable

[polar valve]

Some of mine are higher than listed due to misclicks, or leveling simply for trait missions

But as targets for initial progression I think that's not bad

[tranquil galleon]

Once you get there ||cynodont and eoraptor|| are serious powerhouses

[polar valve]

Ooh, nice

[tranquil galleon]

You should sink as much mutagen into them as possible

[polar valve]

I do wish they guaranteed lv1 of new traits ASAP in meso

It feels so bad to have a useless Dino for 1 stage, but it's worse if it's 2 stages

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, I've gotten pretty lucky in the shop this time around

[polar valve]

Unlucky shop means 3x useless dino

[lean rune]

Is prestige only after a certain rank?

[polar valve]

Rank 50, iirc

[tranquil galleon]

Yep

[lean rune]

50 in Meso? I got a few to go then.

[tranquil galleon]

Every 50 you get to prestige and up the prestige trait that boosts earnings

[polar valve]

The Beyond just feels so much more polished. I do like the shop in Meso; I just wish it worked

[lean rune]

ok, I'm only at 36 Meso, but ready (almost) to go to 37.

[polar valve]

The ability to see every mission at the start is 👌

[tranquil galleon]

Honestly though dinos are mostly useless until they're at continuous production (at least in my experience)

[polar valve]

Eh, maybe? I just calculate the fossils/sec.

[tranquil galleon]

It's really just a result of the devs gaining more experience as they implement new content. That's why all the events have been beyond format.

[polar valve]

Yeah, just wish they'd retrofit some of those improvements :P

[tranquil galleon]

Oh totally. I mean, if you don't have the ability to get your dinos to continuous production then it's just a little harder to tell when they become useful

[polar valve]

As an example, Pachy is by far my best Dino but still has a 0.5s timer. Even at 1s it was the strongest

[polar valve]

Yeah, extra math. Fortunately, that's not too hard ^^

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, pachy is goated in the early to mid 30s

[quaint dagger]

If only they would implement these changes to previous content ...

[tranquil galleon]

Honestly I think meso should stay the way it is. While it's not totally optimal it's definitely unique

[polar valve]

Unfortunately, it probably costs too much. Especially compared to what they get by making new content

I do wonder what tools they use, since the architecture seems decent

[tranquil galleon]

Not to mention it would totally mess with all of the people that have completed meso. If they switched to beyond system they'd have to rebalance the currencies

[polar valve]

Eh, not really? if it's completed, it's completed :P

[quaint dagger]

It would mainly be a QoL change. The main changes I would be more concerned about is the golden artifact.

[polar valve]

But yes, something as minimal as full mission previews would be nice

[quaint dagger]

That too

[polar valve]

Speaking of

events have been beyond format
Is the upcoming JWST one a rerun, or new?

[quaint dagger]

Although it would also depend on how they coded the earlier sections. If they weren't coded great, then it would be hard to implement the new code.

[tranquil galleon]

Rerun

It was the first event

[polar valve]

I only really examined the lootbox stuff, which seems "easily" changed. The missions are probably a little more complex

[polar valve]

Ah. How does it compare to the Philosophy one we just had? That was pretty brutal to finish in time F2P

[quaint dagger]

Another game I play is going through a complete redo in order to optimize the code better to allow for easier updates.

[tranquil galleon]

It actually helped me to recognize what they were talking about at a planetarium show before they even name dropped the telescope itself :)

[lean rune]

Sweet.. Excel sheets!

[tranquil galleon]

Easier from what I remember, it's much more linear.

Fungi was the easiest if I remember correctly

Though I don't remember it too well because I didn't play it the second time around because they hadn't implemented badge stacks

[lean rune]

Fungi was pretty easy. Philosophy took me awhile.. finished with 2 hours to spare.

[quaint dagger]

I find how the did the Speed and Income payouts odd but different compared to other idle games.

I finished with 5 hours to spare and didn't use any boosts until the last 24 hours.

[silk zenith]

What is the last species in the current version?

[polar valve]

I finished with ~8h iirc, no darwinium/boosts except the free one

[tranquil galleon]

I was boosted the whole time and finished with a day and a half to spare I believe

I think I had 2 days with fungi and webb

[polar valve]

The only "mistake" I made was not doing some specific rushes for certain upgrades....which I couldn't know in advance, since said upgrades aren't visible until they're unlocked
I think mobile/paying players really underestimate how much of a difference those ads/boosts/etc. make

[polar valve]

Depends what you mean by "last", but I'd guess Neoavians?

[quaint dagger]

Depends, with or without the extra unlocks from Meso and Megabits.

[tranquil galleon]

I don't. I tried the first day of webb without boosts and found it too slow for my liking

[polar valve]

Shop back on its bullshit again

Just gimme a 4-toed foot and I'll hack one off

[silk zenith]

Meso just reached lv 16

wondering there are how many levels in total

[polar valve]

50

Then you can prestige, and go through them again... and again...

[lean rune]

rinse and repeat

[quaint dagger]

Rank 50 is highest and you Prestige 10 times.

[silk zenith]

that's so far away

[polar valve]

Sure feels like it

[tranquil galleon]

10 levels away from my second prestige, this one went way way faster than the first

[quaint dagger]

Yeah, first run is the slowest. The more you do, the faster it will complete.

[lean rune]

That's good to know. Getting to 37 is taking forever

[tranquil galleon]

I think by prestige 3 or 4 you'll basically be able to complete a whole prestige in a week or less

Just make sure you don't buy any geodes if you can help it until rank 50

And then sink all your darwinium into diamonds

[lean rune]

good to know.

[tranquil galleon]

Ogs remember when we didn't have to buy the james webb artifact

[silk zenith]

I'm saving darwinium.

Plan to buy the 450 one

[polar valve]

450?

[tranquil galleon]

You mean the diamond geode?

It scales with your level lol, that's why you want to wait for rank 50 to buy it

[quaint dagger]

Diamond Geodes are 100 Darwinium...

[tranquil galleon]

By 50 you're getting like 70k mutagen

[quaint dagger]

Does Main Sim have an end rank or does it go forever?

[dense ginkgo]

Hello

[tranquil galleon]

Forever if you want

There really isn't any point though except grinding metabits

Might as well go for 100t for the role

After that though any milestones are arbitrary

[silk zenith]

I mean the mutagen

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah I figured

Like I said, wait until rank 50

[silk zenith]

I have too many cards now

[quaint dagger]

Yeah, stop upgrading them

[tranquil galleon]

You don't really need to upgrade anything past your most recent 2-4 dinos depending on your level

[quaint dagger]

You should only focus on the newest dino and not upgrade the others anymore. Once you do that, you will be swimming in Mutagen.

[tranquil galleon]

Though that makes for pretty slow progression

[silk zenith]

yes I'm just doing that

but mutagen is still not enough

[quaint dagger]

What Rank is your Meso?

[silk zenith]

16

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, just keep grinding out those stone geodes and make sure you get the free one every 4 hours

[turbid oar]

Bell

[tranquil galleon]

You'll get enough mutagen eventually

[quaint dagger]

I think the max you should focus on is Rank 5 for Traits.

[turbid oar]

No?

Oh for rank 16

[polar valve]

Anyway, a reasonable graduation of trait ranks (based on my experience, in hindsight):
rank 3 through Triceratops [#1 ~ #5]
4 through Saurischia [#6 ~ #8]
5 Sauropoda, Theropoda
6 Compsognathus, Velocirapto
7 Pachycephalosaurus, Gallimimus

So yeah, sounds about right

[quaint dagger]

Need to increase Thero up to Rank 5 ...

[silk zenith]

oh, i have exceeded that

[quaint dagger]

Yeah, the first 8 are at Rank 5 for me ...

That was before I read the guide.

[silk zenith]

my saurischia is at rank 7 now

[quaint dagger]

My Archosaur has Rank 6 Payout ...

If only we could trade all these extra cards for others.

[silk zenith]

Is there a limit for these ranks?

[quaint dagger]

Also there is a reason you don't increase common traits so high. Once you Prestige, the Common Traits get reset to 0. Not sure if you keep the duplicate cards.

[tranquil galleon]

20 I believe

But it takes something like 100k cards to get that high

[quaint dagger]

Yet the Rare/Elite Traits are kept forever. So those can be ranked as high as you want.

[silk zenith]

😨

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, I've got a rank 10 elite trait

[quaint dagger]

Hence why it is best to save Darwinium for Rank 50 to get the most out of those Epic/Rare Traits.

[tranquil galleon]

Those diamonds are pog as hell

I can't wait until my next rank 50 because i have 200 darwinium just itching to be spent

[quaint dagger]

Until you get to Rank 50 Prestige 10 and no longer need to play Meso ...

[silk zenith]

Darwinium generator seems to be accelerated by Overdrive?

[quaint dagger]

I got these from buying 2 or 3 Gold Geodes cause I was dumb:

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, I bought a gold and a diamond when I was in my 30s the first time

Big mistake but I don't totally regret it because it helped those earlier ranks go by faster

[quaint dagger]

I am only Rank 17 ...

[tranquil galleon]

That's unfortunate

That second epic up there is the one I have at 10. It's life changing tbh

[silk zenith]

I only have one epic, rank 2

😢

[tranquil galleon]

Any epics are good epics

At your rank having an epic at rank 2 is a great boon

[lean rune]

I'm rank 36 and I'm sure I have epics, but I have no idea which ones lol

[tranquil galleon]

Check the second tab from the left at the bottom of the screen

[silk zenith]

i think golden cards?

[tranquil galleon]

Yes

[lean rune]

ok, 3 gold cards, two rank 7 and one at rank 6

[silk zenith]

Do reality engine upgrades affect Meso and Beyond?

[tranquil galleon]

Wow that's really good

[quaint dagger]

We should get this pinned ...

[tranquil galleon]

There are only 3 of them total (well technically 4 but you don't need to worry about the 4th one yet)

[tranquil galleon]

Some. Boost time and turbo hold

[quaint dagger]

So, do duplicate Trait Cards stay on Prestige or are they thrown away?

[tranquil galleon]

Rares and epics stay. Everything else goes

[quaint dagger]

I know the traits go away ...

[silk zenith]

simulation speed doesn't hold?

[tranquil galleon]

No that would be op

Both beyond and meso have ways of subverting that limitation

[tranquil galleon]

Wdym then

[quaint dagger]

I have 141 copies of Upright Posture for Saurischia. I know this trait gets reset to 0 on Prestige.

Do I keep the 141 Card Copies on Prestige in order to fast level it up or do those extra cards get thrown away.

[silk zenith]

I can only see Void Accelerator locked in reality engine

[tranquil galleon]

They get thrown away

[silk zenith]

perhaps it's the last upgrade?

[tranquil galleon]

It's the last upgrade in the speed path

[silk zenith]

that's unfortunate

The most efficient one is Feliform now

stuck

[tranquil galleon]

Feliform is currently the best entropy generator

[quaint dagger]

So the Common Traits and all Copies are set to 0. While Rare/Epic Traits don't reset and you keep all Copies.

[tranquil galleon]

Yup

[quaint dagger]

Well, if one kept the Common Copies not used ... it would be too easy to get back where you were in previous Prestige.

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, I had plently of rank 10 and 11 traits so it would have been a breeze getting back to 50

[quaint dagger]

How many Rares are there? Someone said there are 4 Epics.

[tranquil galleon]

There are 10 rares, and only 3 epics that you need to worry about. The 4th epic is the prestige trait

[tawdry heron]

Yo i just got max rank beyond

[signal forge]

can i download this game on my computer

[quaint dagger]

Yes via Steam

[signal forge]

ok

[quaint dagger]

Also, you can transfer from Steam to Mobile, use ad boost and transfer back to Steam.

[lone sedge]

Yo what do I do after I have no upgrades left on my main singularity

[tranquil galleon]

Go for 100t metabits and max out the other 2 simulations

[quaint dagger]

All I have left to unlock are the Feliforms for Metabits. Then just need to get to Meso Rank 38 for last few unlocks.

[tranquil galleon]

Nice

[pure latch]

if i switch to a new pc, is my save file in the steam cloud, or do i have to manually back it up?

im getting a steam deck, hope it works on it

[quaint dagger]

I think it is in the steam cloud, although backing it up via transfer wouldn't hurt.

[quick vapor]

Wait... why is there a telescope event again even though its already over

[pure latch]

Never even started for me...

mine says 5 days 9 hours to begin

[quick vapor]

I already did that event maybe like a month ago

[pure latch]

probably recycled.

[hollow haven]

events repeat

[quick vapor]

Oh, I thought this was exclusive

[noble marlin]

time to see a past event

[fiery meadow]

epic

another event

[mild mauve]

hello

[tacit mason]

do we need to redo the events to get event achievements?

[devout palm]

Yes

[shrewd ermine]

I didn't realise how time consuming meso is and I'm only rank 17

[ember gull]

Would be even more annoying to try and get paleontologist legend (haven’t even bothered as maxing out meso once was annoying enough)

[shrewd ermine]

honestly its a pain

also will philosophy event ever get a rerun

[gritty stump]

what is "paleontologist legend"? thanks!

[ember gull]

A role on this server, to reach prestige 10 (max out meso 10 times)

[gritty stump]

and how is the prestige reached? sorry for being clueless

[rotund pagoda]

get rank 50

[dire shuttle]

every event will be rerun

[acoustic jolt]

Is there an event.... singularity where it'll be constant events or is time too spread for that?

[azure turtle]

You mean reset by buying singularity? It's only one time event, next time you will be able to unlock singularity without any problems

[acoustic jolt]

I was trying for a pun

[dire shuttle]

i think event reruns will only be every two weeks so the cycle just gets longer

[acoustic jolt]

Ah, ok

Is there a special thing to unlock this generator, or do I just need more sponges?

[azure turtle]

You can unlock it by buying fungi from logit shop

[acoustic jolt]

Ok, makes sense.

[acoustic jolt]

I know the Singularity speedrun is 2 minutes, but just a few days in and I'm about to unlock Info Age

[tranquil galleon]

It gets faster as you go. Having more metabits explosively increases your earning rate

[acoustic jolt]

Yeep, working my way to those rn

[desert pebble]

Is this normal that i have version 12.76 on android cuz I have seen screens from version 12.77

[tranquil galleon]

Most recent is 13.30 dawg

[desert pebble]

Wth

[tranquil galleon]

Check the play store

[desert pebble]

It says last update was 30.06.2022

[tranquil galleon]

Last update was yesterday

[desert pebble]

😑

Bruh are you on ios

[tranquil galleon]

Nope

[azure turtle]

There was few updates from that date

one or two

[tranquil galleon]

If you can't download the most recent update you might want to contact the devs about it. You won't be able to play any events (to my knowledge) if your game isn't up to date

[desert pebble]

Ok thx anyways

[tranquil galleon]

Oh dang, it looks like they've begun partially implementing the missing 6 achievements. After downloading the update my total jumped up to 244/247 and I now have 3 unclaimed achievements that aren't in the list

[tribal forge]

i got 244/244

[obsidian temple]

Nice

[tranquil galleon]

What platform are you on?

[tribal forge]

Android

13.21

[tranquil galleon]

Oh that's why. I'm on 13.30

[tribal forge]

why would the later version have the bugged achievements?

[tranquil galleon]

Becuase they're doing a bunch of stuff to attempt to implement these achievements

Idk any of the specifics because I know nothing about game development, but when I was on 13.20 I had 241/247

[meager cove]

wtf

i bought a dinosaur and it went all glitchy

[static magnet]

Pog

[tranquil galleon]

If I had to guess they probably entirely removed those last 3 in 13.21 for some type of test

[turbid oar]

test

[tranquil galleon]

Send screnshot

[turbid oar]

Dude how do you do the thing

[tribal forge]

was it the t-rex?

[meager cove]

its finished now

[turbid oar]

|test|

[meager cove]

yeah

||test||

its two |

either side

[azure turtle]

iirc, there is an glitched cutscene when unlocking trex and gigantosaurus

[turbid oar]

test

[tribal forge]

when you buy the t rex for the 1st time its intended

[meager cove]

ohh right

[turbid oar]

No not that

[meager cove]

this ?

[turbid oar]

Yeah

[meager cove]

the key to the left of 1

`

[turbid oar]

Tick

[meager cove]

one either side

[turbid oar]

Cool

[meager cove]

if you do 3 either side then it does

this

[tranquil galleon]

test

[turbid oar]

test

Nice

That’s really annoying on mobile

[meager cove]

for i in range(0,3,1):
  print("lol")

you can do fun stuff

[tranquil galleon]

Yep

[turbid oar]

You have to hold the apostrophe

[tranquil galleon]

Or type 6 of them from the second page of your symbols tab

[turbid oar]

Avirinnlohdn```

𐂂

[meager cove]

whats this james webb thing

[azure turtle]

An event

It will be unlocked in 5 days and you will have 6 days i think to finish it

[tranquil galleon]

It was the first event, this is the second time they've brought it back

[azure turtle]

It's third time

[meager cove]

ohh is that what the philosophy thing was the other day

[obsidian temple]

3rd time

[azure turtle]

Yeah

But about james webb telescope

[meager cove]

ahh right

i only got like 2 bits through the philosophy thing

i started it with 17h left

[tranquil galleon]

It's the third time it's been run, but only the second time it's been rerun unless I missed one

[azure turtle]

Ah, this is right

[meager cove]

in beyond, does it go through every single planet?

[azure turtle]

I think so

[tranquil galleon]

All the ones we know about

In our solar system at least

[shrewd ermine]

Okay so I'm kinda wondering how do u unlock the logit shop

[meager cove]

whats the point in the stars i keep unlocking

like alpha centauri

nah not them

[azure turtle]

It should be under time flux or somewhere around there

[tranquil galleon]

I just got what you meant. They're card drops like the geodes from meso

[meager cove]

ahh okay

[shrewd ermine]

Welp

Fuck wrong pic

[tranquil galleon]

Lol

[shrewd ermine]

I have no logit shop 😨

[meager cove]

the logit shop has disappeared for me now too

[shrewd ermine]

Ah

[meager cove]

it will prob reopen with a new event

[turbid oar]

Only open when events?

[shrewd ermine]

Ohhhh

[turbid oar]

Hii dolphin

[hearty bramble]

I still have it in steam verison

[tranquil galleon]

I can access the logit shop through the attifact echoes

[meager cove]

oh so can i, im just very blind lmfaooo

[tranquil galleon]

Oh, and through the boost window

[tranquil galleon]

Hii

[meager cove]

taking me so long D:

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, collect stardust was always rough

[meager cove]

beyond take so long

im 26 on meso

[azure turtle]

Beyond is faster than meso tho

[meager cove]

huh

how

[hearty bramble]

To get to MAX level Beyond is currently faster.

[meager cove]

how many levels in beyond

and meso

[tranquil galleon]

17

500

[meager cove]

500!?

[tranquil galleon]

10 prestiges of 50 levels

[hearty bramble]

17 for Beyond, Meso is level 50 then prestige 10 times that starts it over.

[meager cove]

jesus

[tranquil galleon]

Wait, 550

[shrewd ermine]

Wait how do u do that?

[shrewd ermine]

Ohhhh okay

Ty

[acoustic jolt]

Huh, but that requires having an artifact.

[shrewd ermine]

Rip

I don't have the artifacf

Artifact*

[tranquil galleon]

Huh that's weird. Did you not participate in the philosophy event?

[shrewd ermine]

No

[hearty bramble]

If you haven't done an event yet I don't think you can get to it.

[shrewd ermine]

Bc I was inactive at the time and didn't know there was events I recently only got back Into playing

Ohh I see

[acoustic jolt]

I just started this week, so no events yet.

[hearty bramble]

It only opened up with the last event too.

You can get to it in the next one then.

[shrewd ermine]

Could I get it with the event coming in 4 days

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, what D3ADH3RO said. If you have no logits you can't access the logit shop I believe

[tranquil galleon]

Yes

Before philosophy all events dropped darwinium but now they're gonna drop logits instead

[shrewd ermine]

I started in 2020 I rarely played bc the game kept annoying me with slow progression

[shrewd ermine]

Ohhhhh okayyy

Do yk what logits acc do

[tranquil galleon]

They're a currency that lets you buy artifacts and visual differences

[shrewd ermine]

Ohhhhh

[hearty bramble]

The artifacts boost different things in the simulations.

[meager cove]

thats why everyone is #anti-flatworm

[acoustic jolt]

What's wrong with flatworms?

[hearty bramble]

One of the cosmetics is a low rez flatworm

[acoustic jolt]

Ah

Yeah, that.

[hearty bramble]

check the cells art channel, its basically that box one.

[acoustic jolt]

Gotcha

[tranquil galleon]

For the artifacts there's fungus, that unlocks the fungus tree in main sim. Philosophy, that unlcoks a 10000% boost to the bronze age idea generator. And James Webb, that unlocks a 2x boost to all terrestrial planets in beyond. For the visual mods there's low poly flatworm, island archie, and night time meso

[hearty bramble]

If you are still working on the Beyond thats probably the best one to get.

[shrewd ermine]

That sounds cool

[azure turtle]

Anti-flatworm is a group that defends archie lol
There was a guy who was in flatworm gang and he insulted and tried to kill archie, and that's how a anti-flatwormgang was created by Venom

[shrewd ermine]

Yea I am

[tranquil galleon]

We're anti flatworm because someone who supports flatworms made a threat against archie

[meager cove]

ohh lmfao

[acoustic jolt]

My next big buy is Atomic Age, so....

[shrewd ermine]

Oh shi

[meager cove]

well what the bloody hell is that price

[shrewd ermine]

It sounds so odd icl

[azure turtle]

We won the war already tho
Devs stand on archie side also lol

[tranquil galleon]

Well, that is to buy 15 of them

[acoustic jolt]

Sextillion.

[meager cove]

i need to buy 15 D:

its the last mission

[shrewd ermine]

I used to think sextillion

[shrewd ermine]

I was just thinking of that lmaoo

[shrewd ermine]

U can do ittt

[tranquil galleon]

Just keep your best planets upgraded and you'll get it eventually

[shrewd ermine]

It's so tempting to cheat bc of slow progression but then I just lose my roles and it took a long while to get them 😭

That's why I refuse to ever cheat in this game

[meager cove]

how do you even cheat

[shrewd ermine]

Time travel

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, don't cheat. It's an idle game after all, waiting is the name of the game

[shrewd ermine]

Like forwarding tome

[meager cove]

ey?

[shrewd ermine]

Time

[meager cove]

ohh

[azure turtle]

Shhh

[meager cove]

on ur phone

[shrewd ermine]

Yea

[azure turtle]

Don't give him ideas

[shrewd ermine]

Yeaaa ik

[meager cove]

i dont play on phone

[shrewd ermine]

OOPS

[hearty bramble]

talking about cheating is cheating

lol

[azure turtle]

Patience

[meager cove]

breathing is cheating

[shrewd ermine]

Yep 😭

[meager cove]

i usually just like go on for 10-15 mins a day, upgrade what i can and progress what i can, then wait another day so i have more money

[tranquil galleon]

Autoclickers are not considered cheating though so use that info how you will

[shrewd ermine]

I miss when I was at the beginning and it was acc kinda easy 😭

[acoustic jolt]

I was thinking ADB and 10-finger-touch-per-sec thing, like auto-mouse on desktop.

[shrewd ermine]

Same or I stay on for a few hours and kill my fingers

[tranquil galleon]

Thankfully after my first prestige I've been averaging at least 1-2 levels in meso a day

[shrewd ermine]

How would u even use autoclickers on mobile 💀💀💀

[meager cove]

im just tryna get to lvl28 meso

then i can get the next thingy

[shrewd ermine]

Ayee

[tranquil galleon]

So I log on every couple of hours to collect income when I can

[azure turtle]

Download it from app store

[hearty bramble]

If you have a computer you can download it on steam and just let it run in the background. Get more that way.

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, there are mobile autoclickers

[shrewd ermine]

Oh shi

[acoustic jolt]

That's exactly what I proposed.

[shrewd ermine]

Idk man I feel like it's cheating

Only in my opinion

[acoustic jolt]

Fair

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, it's entirely up to you

Personally I do too

[shrewd ermine]

Ik it technically isn't but it feels like it 😭

[azure turtle]

I used it after completing main sim to reach prestige 10 in meso

[shrewd ermine]

Ah okay I mean rn i have nothing to do on main sim so I'm unlocking stuff in meso for main

[meager cove]

i am finally over half way to the first prestige in meso

[shrewd ermine]

I might try it just for meso purposes

[acoustic jolt]

. . . Does a transfer of progress mean a 0-sum game, or is it synced across devices?

[tranquil galleon]

I'm just sad that I have to wait for yet another event to get moonlight meso because I want to get fungi after this one

[shrewd ermine]

I think across devices

[azure turtle]

It's not synced

[tranquil galleon]

When you transfer progress you're essentially uploading a backsave

[shrewd ermine]

Moonlight meso sounds so cool

[acoustic jolt]

Ok, just a snapshot clone.

[azure turtle]

You get two separate saves that doesn't affect each other

[shrewd ermine]

Ohh

[acoustic jolt]

. . . One other way to cheat would be save editing.

Just saying.

[tranquil galleon]

Yeah, you can use backsaves to abuse geodes and stars for drops you want

Not sure if it's officially considered cheating though given how low impact it is

[shrewd ermine]

What ways are official cheating bc I wanna make sure that I don't wanna like yk cheat in a game thinking its not cheating

[acoustic jolt]

Not quite what I was thinking
More, "ok, this is my number of Entropy, let me just...... sets bytes to FF/sets Deci number to 99....."

[azure turtle]

cheat engine, changing time, and others obvious cheats (like modified apk)

[shrewd ermine]

What's cheat engine?

[azure turtle]

Not sure but i heard that people use it lol

[acoustic jolt]

General-purpose cheating app, never used it myself at all x

[shrewd ermine]

Ohh

I've never heard of it lmao

I might try see if autoclicker helps my progress only for meso

[rotund pagoda]

common client used for many games

[hearty bramble]

It will, it requires you to have the game running, so you will get all that income, you only get 25% for idle income. Then you get all the clicks too.

[tranquil galleon]

I really got timed out for using a word that isn't even swearing or offensive in any way smh

[shrewd ermine]

Ah okay

[acoustic jolt]

Can you provide a synonym?
Just color me curious

[rotund pagoda]

type this forward : ortin eerf

[hearty bramble]

Just letting the game run makes a huge difference in time it take to complete ranks.

[tranquil galleon]

Muck

As in pond _

[acoustic jolt]

Gotcha

[shrewd ermine]

Ah

[tranquil galleon]

I used it in the context of save _ing

[shrewd ermine]

Which auto clicker is more efficient, on laptop or mobile?

[acoustic jolt]

I'd say laptop, b/c of easier multitasking.

[shrewd ermine]

True point

I'll try mobile then transfer save to laptop after to compare

[acoustic jolt]

Ok

[shrewd ermine]

oh shi it does work real well on mobile

[shrewd ermine]

i wont use autoclicker tbh it feels idk wrong to use it so yea ima just not use auto clicker

[acoustic jolt]

Ok

[white lynx]

day 120 waiting phase 2 beyond

[shrewd ermine]

oh? theres going to be a phase 2?

[white lynx]

yes, about galaxies and more stuff

[shrewd ermine]

Oooo

[acoustic jolt]

Oooo~

[white lynx]

i'm waiting since december 2021 lol

[acoustic jolt]

Oof

[shrewd ermine]

oh lord

[acoustic jolt]

Maybe this December?

[white lynx]

i hope they do it by september...

[shrewd ermine]

it would be pretty cool

im in fact trying to do beyond rn

[azure turtle]

How long people waited for beyond?

[white lynx]

like 1 year

[shrewd ermine]

jeez

[azure turtle]

I think that even more
So beyond phase 2 will also take some time

[shrewd ermine]

mhm

[azure turtle]

And also, they're focusing on events

[white lynx]

yes, but i think that 1 year it's too long

[azure turtle]

and later on civilizations gardens

[white lynx]

yes, but is useless do events that they did in the past...

[shrewd ermine]

i think they do reruns for new players and more oppurtunitys to unlock the achievements

[azure turtle]

Events will repeat

every 2 weeks

[shrewd ermine]

yuh

[white lynx]

yes, but...

[shrewd ermine]

how long is each event?

[azure turtle]

6 days i think

[shrewd ermine]

thats a nice amount of time

[azure turtle]

And we can stack badges so it will be able to get a huge boost from events

[white lynx]

4 days

[azure turtle]

Philosophy lasted longer iirc

[shrewd ermine]

oh we can stack? woah

[acoustic jolt]

But?

[white lynx]

the players become bored

and then they stop playing the game...

[azure turtle]

True, that's why they are still going to add new things, and not stop on events

[white lynx]

they would do more updates

[white lynx]

but the events are the same from january...

[azure turtle]

There will be 6 events in total

now we have 3

[white lynx]

yes

and then there will be he beyond phase 2

[shrewd ermine]

at least they are working on more events

[azure turtle]

And i don't think that events started in january

[acoustic jolt]

Besides, the event shop can grow.

[white lynx]

james webb telescope started on january

[azure turtle]

nahh

[shrewd ermine]

truee

[azure turtle]

At the end of february

[white lynx]

i remember when i returned from school and start playing the event

it was like the end of january

[azure turtle]

That was beta

[white lynx]

yes

[azure turtle]

James webb happen normally at the end of february

[white lynx]

ok

milky way

i love you ❤️

i'm looking forward it

[shrewd ermine]

milky wayyy

same

[acoustic jolt]

Nice

[azure turtle]

Do someone have screenshot of badges from philosophy event? i can't open the game atm

[white lynx]

me

[azure turtle]

Can you send me them?

[white lynx]

yep

i send them here

[azure turtle]

Ok, thx

[shrewd ermine]

i stg meso is killing me rn

[white lynx]

i think i have too much darwinium

lol

[azure turtle]

lmao
spend it somewhere

[white lynx]

also i have a lot of metabits

[shrewd ermine]

spend it in meso

ooo

[white lynx]

i maxed it

[azure turtle]

You reached giganto 200?

[white lynx]

yep

[azure turtle]

Ah

Then in beyond maybe

[shrewd ermine]

i cant use my metabits bc i need to unlock some of the other cubes like explore meso

[white lynx]

i also maxed it XD

[shrewd ermine]

JEEZ

[white lynx]

i finished all the game

i'm waiting for new feature

features

[shrewd ermine]

fair

[azure turtle]

get alpha centauri rank 7

[shrewd ermine]

but jeezzzz

[white lynx]

i have alpha centauri rank 9

[shell shale]

i just maxed Beyond (not achievements)

[acoustic jolt]

Got damn.

[white lynx]

lol

[azure turtle]

Get 1Qa metabits

[white lynx]

maybe i can do it

[azure turtle]

Or 10Qa

lol

[white lynx]

tomorrow i'll send you the screenshot 😉

[shell shale]

i just hit 100 T 🥲

[shrewd ermine]

we need more roles for those who completed the game for extra tasks

[white lynx]

yes

[acoustic jolt]

Mmhmm

[white lynx]

for the events

[obsidian temple]

Meso is pretty darn slow

[shrewd ermine]

jeeeez well done

[shrewd ermine]

IKR IM DOING IT RN AND ITS KILLING ME

[white lynx]

how lions do y'all have?

[azure turtle]

Get rank 10 alpha centauri to get role "cheater"!

[white lynx]

i think that's too difficult XD

[shrewd ermine]

woah

[shrewd ermine]

tryy

u can do it

[white lynx]

THAT NEEDS LIKE TG

[azure turtle]

That's why this name of the role lol

[white lynx]

10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[tribal forge]

something around 400

[shell shale]

can someone briefly explain prestige? or drop me a link or something.. i’m at lvl 48 and i want to be prepared

[white lynx]

I COUJNT THEM

[white lynx]

i count them

[shrewd ermine]

ah

[white lynx]

nice, i have like 500

[obsidian temple]

Same

[azure turtle]

Prestige reset everything except rare, epic traits and mutagen

[shrewd ermine]

its so time consuming

[shell shale]

why my common traits though , i just spent 80,000k getting some to lvl 11 😦

was that a bad move?

[shrewd ermine]

im not sure im only rank 18

[azure turtle]

Yes

[shell shale]

[shrewd ermine]

rip

[azure turtle]

Save mutagen for prestige 10

[shell shale]

good to know

[acoustic jolt]

I'll keep it in mind.

[shrewd ermine]

Should I reboot main sim?

[azure turtle]

You can if you want
You will not unlock anything new

[shrewd ermine]

ik sadly

[white lynx]

ok

i'm her

i ate spaghetti

486 stars

[tranquil galleon]

Did you buy a supergiant or something?

[white lynx]

yep

and also a lot of luck

[tranquil galleon]

Nice, I wish I could do that because dwarfs are a serious grind

But I'm saving my darwinium for diamonds in meso

[white lynx]

i finished all the game and i have 900 darwinium lol

[tranquil galleon]

Damn, just rollin in it