this is not just in apps
#💬-cells-chat
placid herald
Smh
In-app purchases are different to irl purchases
No one is forcing you to do anything
thin abyss
Not entirely sure if this applies to in-app purchases as well, but I don't see why not
rotund pagoda
No one is forcing you to do anything
tf are you on about
nobody forces you to buy anything
frail pecan
How do I get roles?
rotund pagoda
however if you want to buy anything you want to be sure its a good product
thats why consumer protection laws are in place
tribal forge
How do I get roles?
share screenshots of your progress in #🏆-share-your-prestige
frail pecan
Any?
azure turtle
You can check requirements for roles when you write s!roles in #🎭-semblance or check pins in #🏆-share-your-prestige, and if you meet any of these requirements, send screenshot to #🏆-share-your-prestige
tribal forge
👀
azure turtle
No one is forcing you to do anything
But irl you're also not forced to buy
tribal forge
rotund pagoda
But irl you're also not forced to buy
^^^
dire shuttle
i don't think the datwinium shop breaks any laws because it's not for example making the 25 darwinium package cheaper, it's adding 80% to its value instead
rotund pagoda
Not entirely sure if this applies to in-app purchases as well, but I don't see w...
yes it does because they are classified as goods
that is exactly what i was looking for
rotund pagoda
i don't think the datwinium shop breaks any laws because it's not for example ma...
no its a never ending discount
meaning there is no actual discount, that is the price it always is
in other words a fictitious discount
dire shuttle
i really don't want to read the whole ftc guidelines
rotund pagoda
which as is stated in what pifanjr posted, illegal in the us under section 233
rotund pagoda
i really don't want to read the whole ftc guidelines
then dont go against what it says
dire shuttle
can i get a tldr of the thing
rotund pagoda
if you 'dont think' you can check
thin abyss
can i get a tldr of the thing
"The advertiser should be especially careful, however, in such a case, that the price is one at which the product was openly and actively offered for sale, for a reasonably substantial period of time, in the recent, regular course of his business, honestly and in good faith -- and, of course, not for the purpose of establishing a fictitious higher price on which a deceptive comparison might be based."
rotund pagoda
can i get a tldr of the thing
you cannot have discounts that are illegitimate (due to a low reduction such as 'Now only $9.99!' when it was $10, a never ending discount which is fictitious, a short mark up in price then being dropped to the usual price (was $10 ($10 is the short (fake) markup price) now only $7.50! ($7.50 is the usual price), misleading 'cheaper than other stores!' savings the consumer would get if they bought a given product from their store (when the other store has an unreasonable price for the item) and so on but those are what matter
so yes, what the store is doing is illegal
should probably remove that lol
dire shuttle
from just that section i do not see any broken laws
rotund pagoda
tf you on about
they have a never ending discount
the price is always the same
and never goes up or down
that is as stated there, illegal
twin flame
has someone mentioned here about the latest patch getting blocked by certain antiviruses?
rotund pagoda
yes
yes thats one of the exact things stated there
say it has a price for a product that is usually $10
dire shuttle
you cannot have discounts that are illegitimate (due to a low reduction such as ...
a never ending discount is fake or a fake never ending discount?
rotund pagoda
it then marks up the price to $15 shortly (a week or something like that)
it then lowers the price back to $10
then advertises 'was $15! now only $10!' or something along those lines
thats what that is basically
azure turtle
it then lowers the price back to $10
Like... all stores do that before "Black Friday" (that last for a week lol) in Poland
rotund pagoda
a never ending discount is fake or a fake never ending discount?
as in the discount never ends
but because of that the discount is just the normal price
meaning its fictitious because it never ends
rotund pagoda
Like... all stores do that before "Black Friday" (that last for a week lol) in P...
you'd have to check the laws in poland
in the us thats the law tho
pretty sure its very similar in most western countries to protect the consumer
dire shuttle
but is this a discount or an increase in the size of the product for the same price?
rotund pagoda
wdym size
dense ginkgo
Hello
rotund pagoda
i literally cant dumb it down any further lol
its a discount that never ends which means its just the normal price
dense ginkgo
I still need to get to P10 in MV
rotund pagoda
its a discount that never ends which means its just the normal price
or in other words: 'a fake, never ending, discount'
twin flame
i guess it's a question of whether a reduction of unit cost for buying in bulk counts as false
rotund pagoda
legit what are you on about
azure turtle
you'd have to check the laws in poland
I remember that one company got a big penalty because they had on their product "Now 20% more!" that was always on it
rotund pagoda
its not buying in bulk we're talking about
azure turtle
About cts breaking law
rotund pagoda
they have a set amount of darwinium which is always at a price but never goes from that price which is 'discounted'
dense ginkgo
O
rotund pagoda
I remember that one company got a big penalty because they had on their product ...
yea its probably similar laws then
dense ginkgo
I have 1000 
dire shuttle
the shop doesn't advertise a discount, it advertised an increase in the value of the product
dense ginkgo
I wonder what to use it on
rotund pagoda
the shop doesn't advertise a discount, it advertised an increase in the value of...
wtf are you on about
twin flame
like a "buy one get one free" type thing?
rotund pagoda
ignore the $0 cost thats a bug
its being advertised as a discount as it has a slash through an 'original' price, and has a timer for when it ends which inevitably just repeats over and over meaning it never actually ends
^^^
thats why its illegal
twin flame
ok having the timer there does seem deceptive
rotund pagoda
to protect the consumer
rotund pagoda
ok having the timer there does seem deceptive
the whole thing is deceptive and illegal
dire shuttle
its being advertised as a discount as it has a slash through an 'original' price...
you don't pay darwinium to get money
rotund pagoda
you don't pay darwinium to get money
just shut up for my sake you clearly dont understand anything ive said
dire shuttle
there is no slash through a money value, only a darwinium amount that you get
rotund pagoda
im not being rude but its just annoying how you are saying things that are literally the exact opposite of fact
twin flame
but getting more darwinium for the same amount of money is a discount on unit cost
rotund pagoda
there is no slash through a money value, only a darwinium amount that you get
you are getting 'more' than you usually would for that price
dire shuttle
also it isnt never ending
rotund pagoda
mate it disappears for a couple of hours
it comes back basically every couple days
thats never ending
azure turtle
there is no slash through a money value, only a darwinium amount that you get
It's illegal to give a fake increase of darwinium in special offer
rotund pagoda
just cause its gone away for a bit doesnt mean its not never ending
twin flame
a couple of hours is probably still enough to count as "ending" for legal purposes tbh
dire shuttle
It's illegal to give a fake increase of darwinium in special offer
how is it a fake increase?
rotund pagoda
just shut up for my sake you clearly dont understand anything ive said
^^^
azure turtle
how is it a fake increase?
Because it never changes
rotund pagoda
YOU LITERALLY ARENT LISTENING AT ALL
dire shuttle
ive understood everything youve said
rotund pagoda
well you havent tho have you
tribal forge
i'm just watching this conversation heat up 🍿
rotund pagoda
you've gone against all the facts ive stated
azure turtle
ive understood everything youve said
Then what you still don't understand
dire shuttle
i dont think its a never ending discount
rotund pagoda
utc 
azure turtle
i dont think its a never ending discount
Then what is it?
rotund pagoda
omfg
this isnt a matter of 'i think' or otherwise stated: opinion
it is illegal, thats that
dire shuttle
Then what is it?
an increase in value
dire shuttle
rotund pagoda
oh fuck off
rotund pagoda
ive understood everything youve said
100%
azure turtle
an increase in value
But this increase in value never changes and there are "35" on top, that shows that you get more for the same price, but it's actually not true
rotund pagoda
mf a google definition =/= the law
a definition is only generalisation
it cant include everything in it
dire shuttle
But this increase in value never changes and there are "~~35~~" on top, that sho...
buy the package, do you get the 45 daarwinium?
azure turtle
Discount is also when you can get something where is "20% more!" for example for the same price
rotund pagoda
OMFG
"ive understood everything youve said"
sorry can we get that one more time
"ive understood everything youve said"
azure turtle
buy the package, do you get the 45 daarwinium?
i guess so
But it's also written that you could get only 35 darwinium earlier and this never change, so its fake
dense ginkgo
Me just chillin while everyone is arguing about discounts: 🫖
azure turtle
lol
rotund pagoda
it aint an argument when the other person is objectively wrong
its calling them out
tribal forge
Me just chillin while everyone is arguing about discounts: 🫖
me too 🍿 😎
azure turtle
Yoshi went silent
rotund pagoda
Yoshi went silent
hopefully actually is reading what ive said
azure turtle
Me just chillin while everyone is arguing about discounts: 🫖
We are trying to explain how discounts work lol
rotund pagoda
hopefully actually is reading what ive said
so we can settle this """debate""" without more shit getting pulled out of his ass
dense ginkgo
We are trying to explain how discounts work lol
Discount is just Lowering the price of a product for a while
Simple enough
azure turtle
Discount is just Lowering the price of a product for a while
Simple enough
But if the price is lowered and not changed for a long time then its cant be called discount
dense ginkgo
O
rotund pagoda
But if the price is lowered and not changed for a long time then its cant be cal...
^^^
this is the main point we have been getting across
and very clearly and many times for that fact
and yet for some reason yoshi aint getting it
dense ginkgo
So what happened with Yoshi?
rotund pagoda
idk they dipped
azure turtle
I remember that one company got a big penalty because they had on their product ...
Also this situation show how it work
rotund pagoda
hoping they're reading what ive said
dense ginkgo
I feel like getting another 3000 cubes and opening a ton of diamond geodes
Anything to get Level 20 card
obsidian temple
Hello yall
azure turtle
@dire shuttle Let's end it, read earlier messages
at Rank 4
rotund pagoda
drop $40k on lvl 20 cards you wont
azure turtle
I get triggered if someone opens a <:Diamond:775813499816771675> at Rank 4
Oh, let me do this lol
Im on rank 3 currently
dire shuttle
fine, ill call it a discount, i just dont know if it would be considerd never ending by the law but it is time to end this
dense ginkgo
drop $40k on lvl 20 cards you wont
My cards are like level 13-14
azure turtle
so one more and im buying diamond geode
rotund pagoda
fine, ill call it a discount, i just dont know if it would be considerd never en...
alr again, if you dont understand just read what i said it should be clear
thankfully we can stop now and came to a mutual agreement
dense ginkgo
How much money it takes to max out in Beyond
idk like 1 million dollars
rotund pagoda
How much money it takes to max out in Beyond
*idk like 1 million dollars*
less than meso
dense ginkgo
less than meso
Level 20 cards max
desert pebble
peepeepoopoo
dense ginkgo
all lvl 20 cards for meso is $40k
The problem with beyond is that you get
2 E P I C S per giant star
dire shuttle
why would maxed beyond cost less than meso? do the later tiers of cards cost less?
azure turtle
fine, ill call it a discount, i just dont know if it would be considerd never en...
Never ending - something that isnt changed for a long time
And special offer is like this
frail pecan
I still didn't get roles, am I doing it wrong?
rotund pagoda
why would maxed beyond cost less than meso? do the later tiers of cards cost les...
i was only thinking that there were less cards
dire shuttle
there are more than the 63 of meso from what i can see
rotund pagoda
I still didn't get roles, am I doing it wrong?
the mods have to review and that may take a while
might be
dense ginkgo
They should buff the giant stars in preparation for Phase II tbh
800 cards ain’t gonna do crap
azure turtle
i was only thinking that there were less cards
But wait... you get very small amount of epic and rare cards from stars
rotund pagoda
im gonna do some math now
frail pecan
I got an X
rotund pagoda
I got an X
270t metabits in 30h is insanely difficult to get
azure turtle
I got an X
Something is wrong in your stats
rotund pagoda
^
frail pecan
What is it?
rotund pagoda
hence why no role cause mods have to be basically 100% sure
dense ginkgo
Giant star buff idea
Epics: 2 to 30 (at max)
Rares: 8 or 6 idk to 150 (max)
Cards: 800 to 2500 (max)
rotund pagoda
What is it?
you have wayy too many metabits for how long you've been playing
frail pecan
Since 2021
rotund pagoda
most get that in like 3x the time it took you
dense ginkgo
Giant star buff idea
Epics: 2 to 30 (at max)
Rares: 8 or 6 idk to 150 (max)
C...
What do y’all think?
rotund pagoda
no as in in game time
azure turtle
Since 2021
And you played in total only 30 hours? hard to believe
frail pecan
37
azure turtle
Small diffrence
frail pecan
I abandoned in the middle
rotund pagoda
Giant star buff idea
Epics: 2 to 30 (at max)
Rares: 8 or 6 idk to 150 (max)
C...
just copy over diamond geode stats 🤷♂️
frail pecan
This is my cloud save
dense ginkgo
I’m gonna do a @azure turtle I am gonna keep a autoclicker on all night on my computer and get a ton of metabits
azure turtle
Oh wait, i will check on rank 17 in meso how much you get cards
azure turtle
I’m gonna do a <@685407507937493002> I am gonna keep a autoclicker on all night ...
lol
SubAtomos was the first to do this
rotund pagoda
! !!! Beyond LVL 20 Card PRICE !!! !
frail pecan
Have they fixed the timeskip exploit?
azure turtle
Have they fixed the timeskip exploit?
Did you used it?
frail pecan
Yes☠️
frail pecan
Have they fixed it?
dense ginkgo
No, they would need to make game online to fix it
That would be a waste of time tho
Why make it online
dense ginkgo
I’m still satisfied about this
azure turtle
No point in that
It's just cheating, because you need to do this on purpose, it's hard to do it on accident
obsidian temple
I’m still satisfied about this
How the heck did you do that??? (For Oberon)
dense ginkgo
How the heck did you do that??? (For Oberon)
A lot of patience and a little bit of cheating 😅
frail pecan
Whar
azure turtle
A lot of patience and a little bit of cheating 😅
What type of cheating 😒
rotund pagoda
there are more than the 63 of meso from what i can see
only 47 in beyond
rotund pagoda
So cheating didn’t matter
it still does lol
azure turtle
So cheating didn’t matter
Be careful, your roles can dissapear 
frail pecan
Trollge
azure turtle
I did this when I was already finished
still count
dire shuttle
only 47 in beyond
i think i have more than 28 objects with two cards each
dense ginkgo
It was just for Uranus mission
Not actual progress
I learned my lesson and I never did it again after that
twin flame
@keen carbon what's the problem?
dense ginkgo
<@325373529967296513> what's the problem?
Why you pinging him?
azure turtle
I learned my lesson and I never did it again after that
twin flame
because he put an x on my shared prestige
dense ginkgo
https://tenor.com/view/galactic-republic-court-gif-18563333
I A M T H E S E N A T E
keen carbon
16k in-game hours?
twin flame
yes
azure turtle
<@325373529967296513> what's the problem?
Very big amount of time
twin flame
i leave idlers running on my pc 24/7
want a screenshot of steam verifying the ingame time?
rotund pagoda
i think i have more than 28 objects with two cards each
34 x 2 i counted wrong
rotund pagoda
obvs + the other cards
azure turtle
i leave idlers running on my pc 24/7
That's two years of playing if i calculated right
azure turtle
two years of non stop playing
rotund pagoda
That's two years of playing if i calculated right
yea 1.88
twin flame
like i said, i leave them running in the background
rotund pagoda
you mustve wasted so much electricity
azure turtle
impossible to leave it for almost two years
tribal forge
thats so big of an electrical bill
dense ginkgo
I have been playing for over 2 years and I only have like 410 or 430T metabits
You know maybe I should leave a autoclicker on all night:D
rotund pagoda
why have you only got 550t metabits with 16kh of gameplay ☠️
twin flame
obviously it shuts off for reboots and such, but i reopen them all
rotund pagoda
you should have like hundreds of quadrillions
twin flame
because i kinda stopped actively playing, just let it tick up slowly
dire shuttle
impossible to leave it for almost two years
its certainly possible
rotund pagoda
you literally dont get any production like that
obsidian temple
This is one active chat today lol
azure turtle
because i kinda stopped actively playing, just let it tick up slowly
You should still have at least 1Qa i think
rotund pagoda
wayy more than 1qa lmao
rotund pagoda
This is one active chat today lol
shouldve seen it earlier
dense ginkgo
Watch me get 2 QA with the power of 10 MS autoclicker:D
tribal forge
i've been playing for a little over a year, but i have only 61 days playtime lol
rotund pagoda
10 ms between clicks?
obsidian temple
shouldve seen it earlier
Yep lol, sadly I was asleep at that time lol
dense ginkgo
10 ms between clicks?
Yeah ig
rotund pagoda
game can only register so many clicks
dense ginkgo
game can only register so many clicks
It still clicks at hyper sonic speeds
dire shuttle
i think the limit is one per frame
dense ginkgo
So 60 clicks per second?
azure turtle
shouldve seen it earlier
The real active chat is when events aren't working lol
tribal forge
It died out 💀
azure turtle
Ye
rotund pagoda
for future reference 1 lvl 20 card requires 68,588 cards
twin flame
...so do i get roles or not?
azure turtle
Nah
obsidian temple
It died out 💀
Yep lol
dense ginkgo
Hi 👋
rotund pagoda
85 stars for 1 common card to rank 20
rotund pagoda
4,663,984 cards for all common cards
rotund pagoda
5759 supergiants for all common cards
azure turtle
How much stars for one epic card lvl 20
rotund pagoda
im gonna do that after rare
azure turtle
ok
rotund pagoda
685,880 cards for all rares
LOL
114,314 stars for all rares
137,176 cards for all epic cards
azure turtle
85 stars for 1 common card to rank 20
The real start of ! !!! Beyond LVL 20 Card PRICE !!! ! lol
rotund pagoda
future reference
2,072,470,860 dark matter for all cards
137,176 stars gives 203,020,480 dark matter
so rest of that will be collected through dark matter purchases
wait no
dire shuttle
what are the stats of a rank 17 dwarf star
azure turtle
That's a lot of money for sure
dire shuttle
that's a lot of darwinium
rotund pagoda
76,132 purchases
dire shuttle
it costs a lot more than meso
rotund pagoda
ok so 114,314 stars is as said before 11,431,400 darwinium
76,132 x 450 = 34,259,400 darwinium
11,431,400 + 34,259,400 = 45,690,800 darwinium
dire shuttle
can i get the stats of a rank 17 dwarf star so i can figure out how long it takes to get that for free
rotund pagoda
45,690,800/5,000=9,139 purchases
9,139 x $79.99 =
holy shit
you thought the other one was ridiculous?
$731,028.61
rotund pagoda
can i get the stats of a rank 17 dwarf star so i can figure out how long it take...
27 dark matter, 32 normal cards, 8% chance for rare cards, 2% chance for epic cards
lol 342,942 constellation fragments from all those stars
dire shuttle
Is that 2% for one card?
rotund pagoda
i think?
isnt very clear
id assume 1 card tho cause i dont think ive ever gotten 2 cards from one
nah im pretty certain actually that its 1 card
dire shuttle
6858800 for all epics then
rotund pagoda
lol 342,942 constellation fragments from all those stars
you need 143 constellation fragments for all stars LOL
azure turtle
76,758,180 free dwarf stars to get 2,072,470,860 dark matter
rotund pagoda
you need 143 constellation fragments for all stars LOL
you'll have 342,799 constellation fragments laying around for a rainy day
dire shuttle
76,758,180 free dwarf stars to get 2,072,470,860 dark matter
well dark matter astronomy missions are faster
azure turtle
True
dire shuttle
8573500 is all rares
rotund pagoda
you'll have 342,799 constellation fragments laying around for a rainy day
or in other words: 2398x what you actually need
azure turtle
How much dark matter missions there are? and how much astronomy slots there are? (i forgot that)
dire shuttle
231484500 dark matters getting all the cards from dwarf starts
rotund pagoda
so you can do best 5 at once
azure turtle
500 is the best?
dire shuttle
the first 5 to be exact
dire shuttle
25 in 15 minutes is the best
rotund pagoda
dark matter 2->6
dire shuttle
50 in an hour is half the value compared to 25 in 15 minutes
rotund pagoda
25/15=1.67dM/m
azure turtle
no the last 5
500, 200, 100, 50, 25?
rotund pagoda
hold on
.83dM/m from rank 2
.56dM/m from rank 3
.28dM/m from rank 4
.21dM/m from rank 5
.12dM/m from rank 6
first 5 are best nvm
gets progressively worse as you go on
azure turtle
25/15=1.67dM/m
I made a mistake somewhere i think lol
almost 40 years doing only that mission to get required dark matter
dire shuttle
only 986 years to get the rest of the dark matters though this isnt including gemini
rotund pagoda
ill help you guys out ill give an accurate answer but in per hour
dire shuttle
493 years with 2x research speed
i dont know how long the third dwarf star mission ive heard about takes
i think first mission is 100 then 50 then 33? then 200/12 then 300/24 then 500/72
dire shuttle
i think your math went astray because you can do 4 of the first mission in an hour with makes 100 dMs
rotund pagoda
i think your math went astray because you can do 4 of the first mission in an ho...
nah
dire shuttle
i calculated 212.5 dM/h
rotund pagoda
my math is right still but we just get different answers
im assuming different things to you
obsidian temple
my math is right still but we just get different answers
ok then. thats cool
rotund pagoda
basically 986y is whats known as lower bound and 13,965y is whats known as the upper bound
dire shuttle
i still get 988 years though due to more accurate numbers it now has a .3
dire shuttle
i dont understand how you got 0.06dM/h
rotund pagoda
your answer is what you would actually experience in real life
rotund pagoda
i dont understand how you got 0.06dM/h
im assuming different things to you
basically the rate of all the first 5 stars added is that
but yea what you'd actually see is yours but afaik mine is also correct if you assumed different things (what i assumed)
dire shuttle
what are you assuming?
rotund pagoda
well im just using the rate per hour and not taking into account how long the missions actually take
dire shuttle
for dm2 it is pretty obvious the amount of dm it gives per hour
rotund pagoda
oh wait now i see what i did wrong
well nvm then you got the correct answer lol
dont think mines correct now you brought that to my attention
dire shuttle
did you add up all the per minute values and then divide by 60 instead of multiply by 60?
rotund pagoda
i wasnt even gonna do that anyway was gonna let you and quarter do it but eh
azure turtle
How you got 0.06dM/h lol
rotund pagoda
did you add up all the per minute values and then divide by 60 instead of multip...
no i just did 50/60
azure turtle
Yeah ik
gaunt bramble
Tr varmı
azure turtle
Just asking what you did that you got that
rotund pagoda
Just asking what you did that you got that
i had how much dark matter a thing produced, divided that by how many minutes it was, did that for all and added them and got that
rich timber
Since when @azure turtle is yellow 👀
azure turtle
You from
You should write on #🏠-general this type of questions and only in English (you have #🇹🇷-türkçe chat tho)
rotund pagoda
Since when <@685407507937493002> is yellow 👀
since when was that your pfp
gaunt bramble
Hello friend
azure turtle
Since when <@685407507937493002> is yellow 👀
Since today
I finally got prestige 10 today
rich timber
since when was that your pfp
Since yesterday:)
gaunt bramble
Since today <:dog_laugh:811273391126347895>
I finally got prestige 10 today
Hello he is from
rich timber
Since today <:dog_laugh:811273391126347895>
I finally got prestige 10 today
Whoa, congrats!!! Well deserved colour 👍 👏
dire shuttle
well 988.3 years is still too much because dwarf star missions only take up three slots, you could be using the other two to get 150 dMs per hour
azure turtle
Whoa, congrats!!! Well deserved colour 👍 👏
Thanks!
azure turtle
Hello he is from
Better let's go to #🏠-general
azure turtle
i wasnt even gonna do that anyway was gonna let you and quarter do it but eh
I realized today that i don't know how to use calculator lol
dire shuttle
somebody who has it unlocked how long is the third dwarf star mission?
dire shuttle
i forgot that existed
231716 180 hour sets to get all the dwarf stars and you still need 8 after that
4758.14 years to get all the dwarf stars you need
rotund pagoda
you said 988 years was too much
dire shuttle
i didnt realize how long the dwarf stars would take
well at least you dont need to spend any time after to get dark matters because 4758.14 years of 150 dms per hour is over 6 billion
dire shuttle
and 857350 constellation fragments if you get one every 10 dwarf stars
well at least gemini exists and if im reading its effect right it halves the time to get all those dwarf stars
gaunt bramble
Noo
dire shuttle
i have 4 sharks now
twilit inlet
rain dagger
yeah i did do it, a lot, really a lot. "Darwinium, universe's least valuable resource now since there is a googol darwinium hacked in"
i can only mention the parts of the game i turned into a (double precision) floating point precision error: entropy, ideas, mutagen, and metabits (partially).
split token
i can only mention the parts of the game i turned into a (double precision) floa...
Send how many hours you got in the mod client. 
Hold the mucking phone, is 'NaN' considered a soft reboot?
Or a hard reset, for the metabits thingy?
scarlet ferry
Do you guys have the countdown for the next event? Because I don't
celest reef
@azure turtle Legend!
spare acorn
azure turtle
<@685407507937493002> Legend!
Yee, finally!
tribal forge
the best shot of the terminus chamber containing all of the null nodes
fleet spire
I'm so Excited for the new event that's coming up
empty stirrup
what is simulation speedster
agile vale
Rip Technoblade Stage 4 cancer won..
south yoke
How to save acc in c2s
south yoke
Rip Technoblade Stage 4 cancer won..
RIP, but please take this to #🏠-general
kindred grove
wat these
night void
Time to speedrun
desert quail
Nevermind, it’s doing it again. And i haven’t even finished simulation 1 yet.
timber bloom
dense ginkgo
Hello
dense ginkgo
POV: the Legend of SampeDrako is typing
primal stump
POV: *the Legend of SampeDrako is typing*
wrong chat 😅
dense ginkgo
O
I wonder what 4th event is gonna be like
It could be Exoplanets
Or The rock event
My 2 closest predictions
lofty moat
It could be Exoplanets
no is about viruses and bacteria's
chrome sonnet
Why does diamond geode locked ? No more diamond geode after Prestige 2 ?
chrome sonnet
oh ok thx for quick answer.
any reason, or just to do some surprise to players ??:p
night void
Why does diamond geode locked ? No more diamond geode after Prestige 2 ?
It's not prestige tho but ok
Let's Just say that I'm in the rank 29 and prestige 3
chrome sonnet
It's not prestige tho but ok
ahhh ok, never noticed it before now
dense ginkgo
@azure turtle
Here’s a question for u
How many hours does it take to get from rank 1-50 if you play none stop
azure turtle
Hm... Depends on what prestige
night void
For me seeming like less than 50 days
keen carbon
its doable in less then 8 hours
azure turtle
Well, on prestige 0 it's hard to do in less than a day i think
dense ginkgo
Hm... Depends on what prestige
I’m on P3 with level 13-14 epic and rare cards
keen carbon
unless you spend a ton of metabits
night void
Yeah with optional boost, for me seeming like a day.
dense ginkgo
Rank 21 P3 for me
night void
Mines Rank 30 P3
azure turtle
unless you spend a ton of metabits
Darwinium not metabits i think
dense ginkgo
Mines Rank 30 P3
Then why are you not a progressive paleontologist?
azure turtle
I’m on P3 with level 13-14 epic and rare cards
On prestige 3 its possible to do full prestige in less than 8 hours like jojoseis said
night void
Then why are you not a progressive paleontologist?
I Don't know
dense ginkgo
On prestige 3 its possible to do full prestige in less than 8 hours like jojosei...
Bruh
8 hours
night void
I think that's because I lost some little bit of progress
dense ginkgo
For 1
azure turtle
Yeah, for me prestige 9 took few days tho lol
night void
Because I was using tablet
rugged kettle
l cant believe it technoblade is dead
dense ginkgo
Ngl
Mesozoic Vally needs a huge update
dense ginkgo
l cant believe it technoblade is dead
dense ginkgo
Ngl
Mesozoic Vally needs a huge update
And I have a few ideas
1: Add A open all geodes tab if you have more then 5 saved up
2: add more prestige’s or even new ranks just don’t make them hella grindy 😅
night void
When is the beyond added?
spring grove
what will be here?
azure turtle
And I have a few ideas
1: Add A open all geodes tab if you have more then 5 sav...
- That's the best idea ever, opening geodes is a hell
- Add 90 prestiges
azure turtle
what will be here?
Fungi
night void
what will be here?
We have no idea
azure turtle
Ye
Fungi essence from logit store will unlock it
rugged kettle
plants maybe
night void
azure turtle
Nice
But only 140k mutagen
night void
I got to rank 30
night void
Nice
But only 140k mutagen
That's 140k
night void
a
azure turtle
You should try to save more mutagen
night void
Why?
night void
How much?
azure turtle
My goal is 4 million (i have 3.6M now at the beginning of prestige 10)
You can try to get different amount tho
night void
You have 3.6m mutagens?
azure turtle
Ye
night void
Uhm how did you just get that ton of it
azure turtle
I'm saving
Im spending less mutagen than i get from missions on a rank
night void
Okay
azure turtle
And I'm buying at least one diamond geode at rank 50
night void
I got a ton of Darwin
From Mesozoic valley
night void
Yeah
sand orchid
Hi guys
ivory roost
Yeah, for me prestige 9 took few days tho lol
for me prestige 9 took 20 minutes lol
early meso valley vibes
faint sky
What branch of reality comes after Beyond?
stoic galleon
So I just dot singularity and my megabits aren't moving from 1🥲
there are “effective” metabits and “unclaimed” metabits
main kernel
What branch of reality comes after Beyond?
Um
I don’t think there is any other ones than I know of
feral cradle
So, I made a little alt for me to test some stuff, and some codes don't work for some reason, I'm using parallel space for it, cause I don't have a pc or another phone, can anyone explain why some don't work and some do?
Also
Am I doing good progress?
Main sim with 44T metabits
Mesozoic valley 41
And beyond 6
worthy linden
/join beta
lofty galleon
Am I doing good progress?
Main sim with 44T metabits
Mesozoic valley 41
And bey...
prestige?
for mezo
or are you still at prestige 0
honest ether
Whats this
opaque turret
that was a bad update
it basically reset my daily progression back to the beginning
and all other settings too basically (sound, language, etc etc)
I was 3 away from the first ? reward
and to make matters worse - what even WAS the upgrade?
dire shuttle
the recent update added the logit shop but it is locked until philosophy
opaque turret
so my progress got deleted for nothing basically?
dire shuttle
i think the settings and daily progression get reset when the game has to load from cloud save though i dont know for sure
opaque turret
so basically every upgrade add another 2 weeks?
how often does that happen
will there be another upgrade to remove the event (sp another 2 weeks)?
dire shuttle
i dont think the update is what did i as i kept mine
opaque turret
what else?
azure turtle
will there be another upgrade to remove the event (sp another 2 weeks)?
Event will automatically dissapear
opaque turret
I'm 1000000% sure that I didn't go offline for more then 24 hours
polar valve
Whats this
What's what? The node you don't have unlocked?
azure turtle
and all other settings too basically (sound, language, etc etc)
I was 3 away fro...
You sure you didn't transfer your save from cloud?
dire shuttle
Whats this
thats fungi, a thing from the logit shop
opaque turret
yes! at least not intentionally
honest ether
Oh
opaque turret
same device (I don't even play on more then 1)
azure turtle
Usually uploading progress from cloud reset daily calendar
opaque turret
but I didn't as I only have one device
honest ether
I haven’t been playing much i knew i missed something
polar valve
the recent update added the logit shop but it is locked until philosophy
Was this a beta update? I didn't see any notification about one for live here/in-game but I may have missed it
opaque turret
if you mean Game Transfer: I never used that
dire shuttle
Was this a beta update? I didn't see any notification about one for live here/in...
there was a non beta update that added it
azure turtle
but I didn't as I only have one device
People use this option to make sure their save will not be lost if they uninstall the game for example
opaque turret
People use this option to make sure their save will not be lost if they uninstal...
but I didn't
azure turtle
Hm, then it's weird
dire shuttle
People use this option to make sure their save will not be lost if they uninstal...
or if like my case, progress suddenly gets reset
opaque turret
also why did it reset e.g. language, sound etc as well?
maybe because I'm on mac
but I think I'll just have to uninstall, 84 DAYS (!) without an update won't happen I guess
azure turtle
updates don't reset daily calendar
opaque turret
BUT IT DID!!!!!
azure turtle
at least it shouldn't happen
dire shuttle
it didnt happen for me
azure turtle
I think that the issue might be somewhere else
opaque turret
where else? I don't have another device
honest ether
Why did my game have a panic attack when i unlocked the t rex
opaque turret
just update --> gone
azure turtle
where else? I don't have another device
What you was doing on your device before updating and opening cts?
opaque turret
nothing
like, I turned it on, waited a few minutes, CTS
just came back from work before turning it on
no other update
azure turtle
afaik updates don't reset calendar...
So, you never used "Game Transfer" option?
azure turtle
Hm... Then I'm not sure what happened
opaque turret
just great - I've tried restoring a backup, that didn't work, suposedly because now I'm over the 24 hours mark???
dire shuttle
it doesnt reset if you were away for more than a day
dire shuttle
idk, somewhere in the game files?
opaque turret
just great
now the reward is gone too - and seemingly the whole offline progress for the day as it now says 6 minutes
this is getting worse and worse
AND it reset the settings AGAIN
but now back to 133 metabits
polar valve
Sounds like you should DM support
polar valve
Ah, it seems there was an announcement. So the event starts in ~6d
Is there anything in particular that should be done to prepare?
dire shuttle
get an autoclicker
placid herald
Get gud
polar valve
Oh, speaking of that
dire shuttle
maybe get some darwinium too
polar valve
Should I just be saving bits for the next glitch? The store prices escalate pretty quickly compared to metabit income
Next glitch is at...4.2e7, but this run is almost a day long already
dire shuttle
buy some upgrades that speed up the simulation
polar valve
I can probably afford those 3 speed ones pictured
placid herald
Should I just be saving bits for the next glitch? The store prices escalate pret...
Doesn't matter the the glitches boost your income alot but so do the store things so just buy the next cheapest one
The glitches can make you like 10x the amount of metabits
Depending if your next one is good
polar valve
I have...Ungulates, Glires, Cetaceans, Caniforms, Marsupials. I think the next one is Monotremes
azure turtle
If your multiplier will increase two times compared to old one, reset and buy upgrades
tribal forge
all the speed upgrades take 25.5M metabits and the next upgrade is 62.5M
How much is monotremes?
polar valve
If your multiplier will increase two times compared to old one, reset and buy up...
If the speed ones are multiplicative, should be ~12x
dire shuttle
How much is monotremes?
42m
polar valve
How much is monotremes?
4.2e7 (42M)
azure turtle
If the speed ones are multiplicative, should be ~12x
I mean, after you click reset simulation, you see how much your multiplier increase
polar valve
Ah, right. I guess current metabit income is low enough that it's worth resetting regardless of what I purchase
azure turtle
Just collect few more to have 2.55e7
To be able to buy all upgrades visible for now on left side
opaque turret
I should reset too I guess
but I don't care that much about main simulation anyway (except for sharks)
polar valve
Incidentally, this update seems to have broken number formatting in the Reality Engine
tribal forge
Also how much does this number increase?
placid herald
Sharks are hard to get
polar valve
We'll see if it gets fixed on reset, I suppose
placid herald
Also how much does this number increase?
200 000
polar valve
Also how much does this number increase?
Ahh, I forgot there was a preview
azure turtle
Also how much does this number increase?
Something around 220,000
polar valve
Currently, ~1.91x
placid herald
Don't matter it onky increases about 22% in speed
placid herald
Currently, ~1.91x
This one increases in 98%
tribal forge
Currently, ~1.91x
thats a big increase with all the upgrades for my standards
placid herald
Roughly ofc idk the exact percentage
azure turtle
Also how much does this number increase?
217189.39 more
So it's x1.28 compared to first one
tribal forge
i'm missing 37 constellation fragments and i'm grinding astronomy missions
polar valve
2.55e7, here we go~
Dang, does not appear to have fixed the display
Oh, now it did. Weird 🤔
lucid heart
Does simulation speed updrage also boost beyond and dinosaure?
placid herald
No
calm sorrel
Im looking for tips cause im at a point were i cant advance
for mammals i have everything else
desert pebble
bruh
im stuck
on the porcipine looking thing
and i need 4.5b of them green gems
desert pebble
thank you
azure turtle
Im looking for tips cause im at a point were i cant advance
What point exactly
desert pebble
yea also
idk
but ive restarted my simulation a ton
but i cant get passed cetaceans
lemme check
quartz mesa
How to open here?
azure turtle
How to open here?
You just can't for now
desert pebble
okay
dire shuttle
How to open here?
thats fungi from the logit shop
quartz mesa
thats fungi from the logit shop
?
azure turtle
?
logit store is a special store that have a new currency that you can get from events
quartz mesa
logit store is a special store that have a new currency that you can get from ev...
So I went through the events several times. Where to find a store?
placid herald
5T is plenty lmao
dire shuttle
So I went through the events several times. Where to find a store?
its in the lightning bolt tab
azure turtle
So I went through the events several times. Where to find a store?
That's a new feature, you didn't got any logits from old events
dire shuttle
its currently locked
quartz mesa
And is it possible to take a screenshot of the store where it is available?
placid herald
Does Offline % affect those?
Yes
Wait
Idk
No they don't anything involving metabits increase doesn't affect them exceptions are the flux
polar valve
Hmm, all right. So it's only an indirect boost then
quartz mesa
Okay thanks, no more 😢
polar valve
Since offline should boost the main simulation while you're in Beyond/Meso
placid herald
Hmm, all right. So it's only an indirect boost then
Ye
paper trellis
Is event a thing already?
polar valve
Starts in 6d
placid herald
Is event a thing already?
Idk
Anyone know what the limit is for inputs in the game I wanna know how fast I can make the autoclicker
dire shuttle
pretty sure it is one per frame
placid herald
Damn cheating since im sure I'm doing atleast 3 per frame
Got 9 sperate spots the autoclicker is clicking at every millisecond
restive magnet
Raise their speeds
Blow up your pc
Or just use time shenanigans
Like the actual smart guy
That is not me
Ima make a quality of life suggestion
calm sorrel
im on phone so i cant get an auto clicker
split token
Technically, you can.
split token
Unless you're in iphone, you're screwed.
Cause I don't know how AC work on Apple Devices. 
placid herald
Oh iPhone lmao I don't talk about that
placid herald
Cause I don't know how AC work on Apple Devices. <:cat_intense_stare:80335865088...
I mean if you search for auto clicker in the apple version of play store and it actually comes up with stuff it would work
Idk
Mostly for testing personal malware
Lmao ik someone who bought an iPhone just for testing his virus on it so it can break its security things
split token
Apple has restrictive stuff to what you can download.
And even some free games from Google Playstore, is paid in Apple Appstore.
placid herald
What tf
Stupid apple it's literally shit
Wow he flexing that he broke
He got some balls
split token
I don't think he even has balls.
Infact, he probably sold his balls for an iphone 69.
placid herald
That's such a scam
He probably would buy an actual apple for $6969 if you say apple made it
Bro got -1 brain cell
He is !smarter
polar valve
If your multiplier will increase two times compared to old one, reset and buy up...
Thanks for the advice. So after buying those upgrades, I should just save up the 4.2e7 for Monotremes?
Should take a couple hours
placid herald
You should gey them all
scarlet moat
Yo
obsidian temple
Yo
polar valve
Cetaceans? Got those; Monotremes are the next unlock
placid herald
When the game tells you to update but its not on play store yet 
desert pebble
Romania?🇷🇴
placid herald
What
split token
Probably a new person, asking if there's any Romanian speaking people.
Yep, they're new. That's their first message to the server.
Welcome, Gabi.
placid herald
Default pfp 💀
split token
yeah, fair. Not sure how new they are to discord.
placid herald
yeah, fair. Not sure how new they are to discord.
I could check if I wanted
split token
To newcomers, it's a wonderful sight behold.
To us, well, ***let's not dwelve into that.
it's bad, as it is, if you're not careful.*** 
placid herald
yeah, fair. Not sure how new they are to discord.
Account made
20 April 2022 at 14:52
Idk what timezone that time is in
obsidian temple
Account made
20 April 2022 at 14:52
how the hell did u do that?!
obsidian temple
i would like to be in it please. i forgot when i made my account lol
placid herald
i would like to be in it please. i forgot when i made my account lol
It's in my bio
obsidian temple
its a whole lot faster
split token
I joined somewhere 2017.
obsidian temple
its been over a year since i joined lol
placid herald
I joined somewhere 2017. <:Doggo:811273628418179102>
Let's check
placid herald
I joined somewhere 2017. <:Doggo:811273628418179102>
10 January 2017 at 12:07
placid herald
its been over a year since i joined lol
20 March 2021 at 5:59
obsidian temple
yep
placid herald
Ye lmao I need to ping in order to get whois just didmt want to use dyno
split token
Yeee
obsidian temple
20 March 2021 at 5:59
well for me it says march 19, 11:59 PM
placid herald
Lmao idk
I didnt write the code
Maybe that's when discord made its first save on your account
primal stump
placid herald
K
obsidian temple
k
polar valve
Oh no, just whales
Those Cetacean upgrades are still pretty pricey for me so I've been more focusing on the Caniform tree with my Entropy
calm sorrel
im just looking for an auto clicker for moblie
placid herald
im just looking for an auto clicker for moblie
What mobile iPhone or android
placid herald
Same thing its made by apple
calm sorrel
theres a built in auto clicker im setting up
placid herald
And just search your play store for auto clicker
calm sorrel
im setting up the built in one
placid herald
I am aware you don't have play store
placid herald
im setting up the built in one
Should've just dome that before complaining
calm sorrel
im know for complaining
tribal forge
I am aware you don't have play store
imagine not having play store
placid herald
I have it
calm sorrel
Im almost done setting it up
calm sorrel
Well im watching a video cause im dum
tribal forge
the devs have finally learnt how to count
placid herald
?
tribal forge
in steam beta patch notes it said that there are 6 philosophy generators
when there are 7
placid herald
calm sorrel
obsidian temple
<:5headwine:724056835023437844>
This should be a custom emoji for this server
damn no 2 and 1 head
placid herald
<:5Head:884767142749306940> <:4Head:430731176190148608> <:3Head:7390998879160238...
5 head 4 head 3 head and 0 head
calm sorrel
i finished setting up my auto clicker
jaunty zealot
why yall make events limited
tepid nexus
BRUH
ivory vigil
why yall make events limited
because they are events
hot hawk
ello
dense ginkgo
why yall make events limited
Bro because
They are
EVENTS
They are supposed to be
LIMITED
A event that’s not limited is Not a event
jaunty zealot
why not add it as part of the game permanently?
dense ginkgo
why not add it as part of the game permanently?
They are gonna get replayed a lot
As seen in roadmap
ivory vigil
A event that’s not limited is Not a event
an**
jaunty zealot
ok
I was pissed cos I work a lot then the little time I got for the game the philosophy event had a day left and it was so exciting but I couldn't enjoy it in my own pace cos I had to rush it and use my darwinium🙄
ivory vigil
I was pissed cos I work a lot then the little time I got for the game the philos...
the events repeat. you didn't have to spend darwinium
hasty ravine
Guys my next upgrade is 5.5b metabits but I'm slowly progressing at 1,200 per second is there a better way to progress?
rotund pagoda
make sure to play beyond and meso as well for increases in speed
polar valve
Just discovered this Unknown object in Beyond - what is it unlocked by?
dire shuttle
thats the webb telescope, its from the logit shop
keen field
So got a question, are megabits useless after buying all the reality engine upgrades and the feliforms? I’m at the stage where I’ve gotten every upgrade in the main simulation (besides birds, which I’m trying to get through the Mesozoic valley to unlock) and I’m wondering if there’s any point to working on the main simulation to get more metabits. Any ideas?
polar valve
You get a production bonus based on all-time collected Metabits, no? So there's some small increase there
But if you have no use for Entropy, Ideas, or Metabits and are just locked by Meso then I'd say no
feral cradle
or are you still at prestige 0
wdym
feral cradle
So, I made a little alt for me to test some stuff, and some codes don't work for...
Also, why?
thin flame
feral cradle
damn
thin flame
New updated 
dire shuttle
this is pretty slow
thin flame
Are there changes? 
feral cradle
was it only me who did the not so big brain move of spending 300+ darwinium at mesozoic?
keen field
@polar valve thanks, now I know not to waste time doing any more reboots
dire shuttle
Are there changes? <:Tfker_eme8:979000921604382740>
philosophy has a countdown now and the logit shop was added and it is hidden until the event
thin flame
Good
I will become the greatest philosopher 
I use six fingers when I play, is this normal? 
dire shuttle
i will just speedrun it with an autoclicker though i might do it faster than i did in beta
dire shuttle
I use six fingers when I play, is this normal? <:emoji_46:966866892230889492>
its what i do when i want to click with no autoclicker
dire shuttle
no
dire shuttle
you might want it for the philosophy event as it takes a really long time to do
feral cradle
This good progress?
dire shuttle
you may want to go attack the beyond
dire shuttle
less time than full mesesoic valley
feral cradle
not for me
thin flame
feral cradle
Im almost 48
Auto clicker helps a ton
Should I save cubes for the philosophy event?
dire shuttle
im 71 in mesesoic valley and there are 550 if you count all ranks and prestiges
yes
feral cradle
There are 550 what
dire shuttle
ranks counting all prestiges
dire shuttle
they get faster as you go through the prestiges
dire shuttle
Is there anything else special in meso after 48?
just cards for giganotosaurus and the ability to prestige
dire shuttle
reset ranks and all common cards but you get another tier of the warm climate trait
feral cradle
I've known this game like
Since 2019
Or 2020
I don't rember
Started playing this year only for some reason
Even tho I knew how great this game was
feral cradle
reset ranks and all common cards but you get another tier of the warm climate tr...
And what does that do
?
Sorry for ping
dire shuttle
warm climate provides 1.5x payout at prestige one
feral cradle
ooooooo
Interesting
But is it really worth it to keep playing meso?
After you get all the achievements?
dire shuttle
you get all the achivements at prestige 10 rank 50 i think due to the difficulty
dire shuttle
200 of the last dino takes a while
feral cradle
What if I spent a bunch of darwinium tho
Cause, I might have already done that
._.
dire shuttle
well then you might be able to do it sooner but its probably a waste
dire shuttle
more main simulation speed
dire shuttle
its .25 per rank while meso is less, i think meso is .1 and its prestige is .5
feral cradle
I alr maxed phobos
desert pebble
Why are my messages being deleted?
hollow haven
Have you thought that troll messages don't belong here?
desert pebble
So asking people for bank information is trolling?
hollow haven
So asking people for bank information is trolling?
Do you really want to say that you're doing it with actual intent? 
feral cradle
why did you take that long to write that?
hollow haven
Typing on mobile plus wanted to type more but decided against it
polar valve
Im almost 48
How long have you been playing, and how much Darwinium have you spent?
hollow haven
Any tips on how to get sub 2 min singularity?
Look at the pinned messages for a guide
polar valve
Any tips on how to get sub 2 min singularity?
Nanobots
feral cradle
How long have you been playing, and how much Darwinium have you spent?
um
Ive prob spent 350+ darwinium
I think around 35 hours
polar valve
Sounds like you just need more speed, then. Buy the direct path through to ideas manually with your nanobots helping, then abandon entropy and focus on getting through the idea ages ASAP
Remember to go back and buy humans if your nanobots didn't get that in time
polar valve
Ive prob spent 350+ darwinium
I think around 35 hours
Well, that's why people are doing meso slower :P
35h seems pretty fast though
feral cradle
Well, that's why people are doing meso slower :P
35h seems pretty fast though
oh nonono
I am at 42 in meso bc i've spent so much in it
polar valve
That's my point
feral cradle
what
polar valve
You asked
Why does everyone do mesozoic so slowly
polar valve
Up to you
I just pop them at the start, since they last a minute and you only have 2
odd kestrel
dead chat
obsidian temple
dire shuttle
im taking that
polar valve
Until the Philosophy event, is there anything to do with Ideas post-City? Or do you just keep buying Cities for a small increase in Metabit income
dire shuttle
philosophy doesnt use ideas
lean bridge
I got a crush on u yoshi
polar valve
Wasn't sure, good to know. So even with the event, Ideas are pretty useless then?
dire shuttle
philosophy uses questions
lean bridge
I like u yoshi
dire shuttle
ok
obsidian temple
I like u yoshi
Wha
polar valve
philosophy uses questions
Ah, that's a new currency?
dire shuttle
yes
obsidian temple
I like you yoshi, if you want to be friends
dire shuttle
sure