#๐ฌ-cells-chat
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oh wait yea
tbh void walker was weird af a few days ago
The first love might get u in trouble in certain countries
Oh yeah. It's that person.
he said to me that he'd call ''the lord of hell and demons''
Oh my fucking god I'm still crashing for about 30 minutes
wait what
isn't that the opposite of what he said on this channel
WHEN IS THE EMPTY SIM STRAT FIX RELEASING?
idk man
i just got here
2 hours
did he say that on dm or what
im pretty sure he said it in general
or in cells chat
lemem check3
!ban 1494641001153826857 Troll, talking about politics multiple times even when told to stop
Banned celestial_fox_15023 (Case #4683) (user notified with a direct message)
damn
wow
The gif search feature on discord has become a lot worse
he got banana'd
Crashed again
What just happened...
quarter got some lunch
some what๐คฏ
He was here 3 days, and already saying stuff like that
People don't change, if you keep giving them more chances, they will just keep breaking the rules.
Devs hurry up ๐ญ
Definitely not several times anyway. After being asked politely.
reboot twin
Interesting attitude /ns
Is Limit of Knowledge really hard to get compared to the others?
hey so can I report you a guy for bringing up eps**in in chat
Is it fixed?
This is empty sim strat
bro didn't know about the empty sim strat
basically you reboot then do nothing for 14 days
then what
then play
[BETA]: ||Empty sim will be gone in probably like a few hours||
a
I better just use /beta tag fr
By approximating it'll take like 3 times more time than the rest
you'll get some boost from time chambers to metabits and knowledge
FEW HOURS LETS GO
Bro was born after covid
Literally just said beta ๐
We aren't spoilering things now
empty sim strat is useless
Bro was born after flash support ended
What the fuck? I loaded in on my phone and the offline rewards thingy didn't appear
...
i feel your pain man
I'm constantly getting that glitch too
Shake your phone maybe the offline reward is stuck somewhere
what?
pre reboot: unc
post reboot: kid
๐
Make sure you don't let it run in background tab...
i lost my dodo achievement after the reality reboot, can i still get it back
kek
No I'm not an unc!!!
how would the offline reward get stuck
All the weird strategies we've been using for the past 5 months will be gone soon.
Too much gigarams floating in the air
unc ๐
reboot unc
It tends to get shy like that
U need to flirt with the offline rewards
nvm pre beyond is unc
WHAT
We'll start fondly reminiscing about them to the newbies ... One day.
yo that's me /j
I'm still an unc according to this logic ๐
Offline rewards are the table
๐ฅบ
pre beyond e30 is uncer
ouh shi, hi unc
what is the most unc๐ค
am i still a horse
TETRAPOD OVA
luca
I'm not an unc ๐
Next year, pre-nanobot players will be called an unc
how
lunch
pre-semblance
no
people who had breakfast will be unc
That's how time works
nah breakfast the one who make that walking game
mama hawk ๐
then wheres dinner
after c2s ends
Real uncs played this game on their phone when it came out, found it novel and quit until they rediscovered the game recently
hell na
Whoever had the chance to play Sidewalker is an unc, that's reasonable isn't it?
yes
i had to buy feliforms with green gems
the og players ๐ฅน
people who saw events ss1 appear is unc
Wait, what?
Can I call them grandpa
Don't call me out like that
grandsemblance
GUYS I HAVE A THEORY
Heritage of unc continues
Fuck
Proceeds to die
no
no
nope
6 to 7 years, never uninstalled ๐
(Since like Mesozoic Valley icon)
WHY DID SEMBLANCE SAY THIS THEN-
semblance and lunch are entirely different lifeforms
yeah true
shes forcing you to
because she's the one who simulate it?
๐ฅบ
lunch and the big semb is a completely different person
Are we fr
Even when I got a new phone I don't think I deleted the game in the old one so it's probably still there lmao
Bro is NOT Heisenberg Breaking Bad
Honestly, I am going to miss discovering things like Human Spark optimization. Everything being auto optimized and mistake proof removes all that.
hire someone named breakfast and dinner
Not this again
Oh hell nah
say my name
๐ฅ ๐
NEVER make fun out of triple T
Will we be pinged when the update drops?
Ts why aliens dont visit earth๐
Wait yes
prob
Dude hearing him gives me a headache
MAYBE THE EMPTY SIM STRAT FIX UPDATE WAS THE FRIENDS we made along the way ~
Our ancestors were smarter than us!!!
Whoever considers Empty Sim a friend is confirmed to be insane all the time
hmm
you're more insane than marcel
let me explain
people this is #๐ฌ-cells-chat
move to #๐ -general
Oh wait I just realized
why do we like cells chat so much
fr
some of the augments give special thingibingis
Idk
lets move generalers
Watching a stegosaurus paint
alright
-# More people
GENERALLER PLATOON, MARCH!
Does checking here more than there scientifically confirm I've lost my mind
I get ya, things like that are fun to find. I understand why it is being addressed though. This game isn't supposed to be a weird min-max sort of game.
Mind you, the outcome is (as always) that new players can largely catch up with the old timers pretty quickly. Except for badge boost. And the Steam-and-no-IP players.
And I want Empty Sim to be fixed soooo bad.
Agree. This game should be kept simple and easy. I can always get my min-max fix in other games.
I liked your previous pfp. This just looks weird to me 
Did you just transformed into Mr Bean
I've always Bean 

I'd rather finish the new content in a short amount of time, take a break and come back to the next update. Instead of having to do 14 day empty sim strats and eventually quitting cause its boring
That is the case if your concern is balance
I stopped doing empty sims already 
I imagine the goal will be that new life/civ updates take ~1-4 lots of 7-14 day universes.
So more playing, not necessarily finishing new content quicker.
Where's the fun if you finish the new content in like a few days? ๐ค
or in an hour 
๐
Finished the cheese event
In my head I was thinking fixing empty sim strat without balancing it would lead to faster completions
Because youre gaining currency for 14 days as opposed to doing nothing, although u of course only gain much in the latter part
I'm not in VERY-end game, so I kinda like the empty sim
Makes me focus more on the simulation branches
Definitely more xp now that we will always be in a full sim. They might have needed to adjust for that.
Random question, but what does determine xp gain?
xp?
They look like stalled at some moment, and suddenly rises at the next moment
About research level xp
I am saying if they didn't adjust it and it's way faster and it leads to endgame players taking breaks THEN that would be preferrable to the current situation
Entropy, ideas, and research chips^2 afaik.
before RR, we have a bit of a calculation from meso, beyond, events, and primary sim
idea/entropy production I think?
Primary sin๐
Wonder why research chips count
Especially in quadratic form
Idk. Probably something too with them doubling ideas and entropy every 10 you spend. Not looked into it.
Why did they remove that?
prob because of some changes on the system and the balancing stuff
xp is mostly just Entropy * Idea.
That wont get it exactly but its close.
I tried to mess with it and still didn't get the formula
anyone unemployed enough to find it
Decompile the game
ask big semb tbh
Any minute now
any centuries now
Any eons now
any insert very long time now
thought you said Chinese
I'm left with all of Visual Art and the last one of Rocks
Gotta sleep so I had to sacrifice 10 Darwinium ๐
See you whatsoever
see ya
bwahahahahahahhahah
67 67 67
Here before the mods ping everyone for crustacean update
Trailer just dropped on yt
no
crabby patties
the freaking cow from the event scared me
๐ญ
why did they ignore #๐ฃ-cells-socials tho
Probably gonna post it after the announcement
hey
oh yep
and what about the badges i already unlocked?
Do you need metabits or knowledge next? What's producing most of your income?
I might need metabits
Any minute now
๐ฆ Empty sim strat is ๐ฆ
Server icon changed
yeah
is crusteacean finnaly realesing
I think theyโll do the announcement at the turn of the hour
๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
finnaly bro
u unlock arthropods before that, meaning this is also the bug update
will do
wait
wait a minute
i wonder how long its gonna take me to get to crusteceans
since i barley grind primary sim
hi
That event typically runs at Hallowe'en. It's run once over Summer.
Oh got it thanks
๐ฆ
I was off by 10 minutes 
mantis shrimp
do we get crab
research level 81
โ๏ธ
crustaceans are perm content on the game, right?
ccrab
oh theres hermit crab
NEW ROADMAP
nano crab
nice update
Reject modernity
So that's it, we officially ended the Beyond
Clearly crabs are where itโs at
But we are going to get things for the singularity?
๐ FIXED: An issue where Time Chambers displayed doubled times in the Beyond and Mesozoic Valley
CRAB TIME
Three times October, once May or smthn.
Sad to see the beyond end
But it is what it is
Happy crab day to all who celebrate
insert krusty krab joke here
SWEET (crab) RAVE PARTY
It IS over.
oh nice a QoL update
F
DYSON SPHERE
Nice that the empty sim strat will die, but why more nerfs ๐ฅฒ
thats always been there
Yup
Oh
Itโs actually a buff overall
But the nerf
Isn't the upcoming "Athmosphere" about Beyond?
How?
Bro they discontinued Beyond lol
And besides that
the Beyondโs over
No line coming out of e30
Because there's nothing beyond universe in reality
And besides THAT
The Beyond is like space and stuff
As in
beyond earth
Terrible decision!
Nothing that we know of
But we may never know
I havenโt opened the update so I canโt know if itโs good
so they added crustaceans but not arthropods?
Not really
It was a long, long time coming
Evolution never ends but the universe (kind of) does
(Although I doubt they are stopping Beyond forever, given that we still have yet to explore the end of the Universe)
yeah i aint reaching this so soon
Technically they added arthropods if you include crustaceans
I doubt it.
Time to once again mention beyond is about space not time
I can't believe they ended Beyond. Worst decision ever!
Insects are also crustaceans, but they're not here
My guy we ran out of universe
There might be a prestige system or something, but other than that, itโs the end.
Yu-Gi-Oh?
Not every insect
Actually I think insects and crustaceans are two different forms of arthropod
The Devs should just make something up /j
Crustaceans are those in the clade "Pancrustacea". Insects are in that clade
There are pretty many explorations still ongoing.
Explorations have nothing to do with the beyond
THE BEYOND REACHED THE EDGE OF THE ####ING UNIVERSE
when I saw the ||3 dots after the end of beyond|| I was totally hoping for how ||the universe could end|| but ehhhh it's fine without those too
Because they have 6 legs
I donโt think itโs a leg thing
But Iโm not an etemologist
And having flight like dragonflies
Also they finally fixed the darwinium bug I reported over a year ago ๐ซ
it's a systematics thing
Birds can fly. Does that make them insects?
For example, we could explore interstellar beings in detail. Or space missions etc
Okay sorry for being aggro there
But there is nothing more that we know of to explore in the beyond without muddying up the whole thing
Bruh they keep nerfing the Knowledge and Metabit ones
All things, good and bad, need to end eventually, for better or worse.
thatll be added eventually
It might be.
theres giant anomaly after mars terraform
The Beyond was a good run that I havenโt even finished yet, but itโs time for it to come to a close.
Pffttt your talking nonsense atm
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Bees and bats and birds all fly, bud did you know the mechanics of how they fly is very different. See how insects fly. The way they take to the air may surprise you!
STEM in 30 is ...
space is not over
Iโd say itโs true
Probably the Dyson sphere from the roadmap
I remember being told 3 pairs = insects, 4 pairs = spiders, 5-10 pairs = crustaceans, 11+ pairs = millipedes/centipedes.
But that was at school, and probably isn't rigorous. Just a rule of toe.
Real space no
But simulated Beyond space
More or less
what's missing
I mean that sounds right
anomaly in idea tree
crustaceans came?
๐ค rule of toe? Not thumb?
Ik what rule of thumb is
But tf is rule of toe
Me too
Yes
Prestige means dying of the game. Sad how they destroy the pottential of the game.
And next will be arachnid and spiders
omg i need the cute hermit crab
โArachnid and spidersโ
Whoโs gonna tell him spiders ARE arachnids
I guess rule of thumb
But with legs
Hey that reminds me
An arachnid update would prolly mean scorpions
Cool
I don't want no ticks in here aswell
It seemed more appropriate.
Lol fair enough
The end of the Beyond talks about what happens at the end
Sooo empty sim strat is dead now?
on mobile?
Yes
do they be in mobile?
what strat?
Exactly. It acknowledges that thereโs a lot we donโt know, but doesnโt stretch it out too much (in terms of content).
Eventually.
they nerfed our progression once more!!!! how rude!!
Has it been tested in beta alr that empty sim strat doesn't work anymore?
Hey our logo is now C R A B
o keep progression balanced, weโve adjusted the following Time Chamber upgrades:
Metabit Time Chamber I and Knowledge Time Chamber I boost decrease from 10x to 5x
Metabit Time Amplifier and Knowledge Time Amplifier boost decreased from 10x to 5x
atleast the crab bots are cute
Yes
Told u it would happen
Unfortunately
miss the old days
its gonna be 25x and 100x now
Quite a funny roadmap. Devs keeping their plans hush hush.
so 4x nerf
NANOCRAB RAVE
I guess glitch at 84 is only gonna come after crusteceans end now (?)
Nice
Somehow I kinda like that
Crustaceans needs at least 88 to complete
They need a high level
For they are the superior lifeforms
/lh /j
worth
lets hope they are nerfing stuff so that they can buff other things ig
Same. Gives more space for speculation. And more freedom for the Devs if they get better ideas.
True
hawk at 84 was already in the live version prior to today if thats what you are talking about.
Spoilers for update ||an unexpected generator will get a massive buff (and no itโs not Neoaves)||
My goodness
*eagles
In this image
i have yet to reach that but im asuming i will get there after crustaceans drop
Which one
EMPTY SIM IS FIXED, THE UNIVERSE CAN END NOW
I think people expected it
|| ape? ||
๐ญ Not waiting a week for it
-# flatworm
Thatโs expected though
Welp it's not what arch talking about
Amino acids
Something with claws ... A bear?
Ah yes the bear generator
Hint hint, it's before ideas
i wonder if we will get a new achievement with crustaceans
Human
We got 5
Yes
You just saw thst
no i mean steam achievement
Before ideas like the entire entropy tree
yess
AFAIK no
Oh btw how to get the new achievements/what are they?
That was on android for like a week
Buy 1000 crustaceans
Not on steam sorry
50 crustaceans 100 crustaceans 250 crustaceans 500 crustaceans 1000 crustaceans
Oh I meant the secret ones
Oh thereโs no secret achievements
There are none
But like a couple months ago
IR2?
Achievements are challenges for players to complete. When an achievement is achieved, rewards are given to the player.
As of Version 45.47, Cell to Singularity now features 525 achievements.
โข 22 of them are general achievements, substantial breakthroughs in the history of evolution. Most are obtainable in the Primary Simulation , with others located in the Mesozoic Valley, Beyond, and Exploration Hub.
โข There are 45 * 5 = 225 achievements players can get by purchasing a certain number of Generators in Primary Simulation (with tiers of 50, 100, 250, 500 and 1000).
โข Similarly, there are โฆ
Ah it is updated, thanks didn't check
@torpid minnow no steam achievement
Rip will have to wait a yr for the pi one, shouldn't have missed last one
It's prob after the weird things
Tachyon funnel is easy to get now ๐ญ
Beyond goodbye!
Hey, when auto-nanos are on, why doesn't it automatically switch to buy mode rather than tap mode? Trying to do things remotely, I was yelling that it didn't switch to buy mode at start of simulation despite me having the 2 "start with 10k" upgrades in the engine
Well thatโs unfortunate
There's still more planned prob, we don't have the end of the Universe nodes yet
I could have gotten a sub-2 singularity if I didn't have to spend 50 seconds fighting it to get them to buy amino acids
It may not be completed forever. Who knows? In a couple decades science could advance far enough for us to see even more of what's out there. Granted, I don't think there would be any new generators post-cosmic horizon, but as stars and other structures shift we could have entirely new sights out in space.
Or all the galaxies will collide with each other and life as we know it will end. Whichever comes first
When starting nanobot it preserves what state they were in when they shut down
Anyone else notice the Dyson sphere
Son
Holy shit
Everyone
They finally added lobsters
I have for a while.
Rip beyond, we need more science
Ok
I can die in peace now
Ok
You have to be level 81, though.
I just never looked at the roadmap
Lobsters are like a sold 35% of my personality
And didn't know what it was until today
Where do I find my level
Any one vietnamese
It's at the top of your screen when you're in the primary Sim, right next to your entropy/idea count
Well, I did a Steam transfer to a new computer and they defaulted to tap mode...... who wants tap mode, buy mode is right there and the *bots tapping gets eclipsed by aminos anyway
Tks
Ahh, I'm still 17 levels away
Darn
Hell yeah
Damn.
Whats your meso and beyond like?
Did any players finish the eiffel tower update before this dropped?
dyson sphere?
Level 48 prestige 1, and level 29
shi, I left a bit to study some maths what the fuck happened
i remember you
Hell yeah
Please stilton come to daddy
Ahhh,I hope I can get there, then!!!
I thought the next exploration event was music
Think it is, they are announcing the next NEW event
yes
where's the line coming off E30
How?
I was only able to do a few empty sim runs and it wasnt enough
it is but the new one they're working on is atmosphere
you can see it on the future updates tab in the game
But the atmosphere event just ended
Yes!
Youโre in beta
Atmosphere isnโt public yet
because we're switched to the live version of the game
how you doing
that's why they disable the atmosphere event
I've been alright, just vibin through life haha
fair
Just attempting to enjoy every day as well as I can
Yuup
What do yall think is gonna be the research level for crusteceans
What is about ||living quality||
-# might delete after sometime
Itโs like 88 or smthn
I demento whoโs kitkatarts again
Why is there a "jester" in my role group?
What is 'Jester' role? Why do I have it?
- 'Jester' is a role for trolls. Mainly for game cheaters, it also includes those who ignored rules in several channel descriptions.
- You may have this role because you did at least one of the following:
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- Cheat in the game.
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- Make a suggestion in #๐ก-suggestions by making a thread instead of using @noble star's /suggest command.
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- React to entries in #๐-share-your-prestige after a moderator already did.
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- Send messages in #๐จ-cells-art outside of a thread, unless your messages are considered an artwork entry.
- If you want the role removed from you, or you think there has been a mistake, please contact a moderator.
@hazy sedge
an individual i remember from a while ago, a past server era
Is this the number of unique badges?
yes
No, I didn't cheat.
I was around on rare occasions some bit ago
Thereโs 3 other bullet pointsโฆ.
the lore I just uncovered today
i think you may not have even been in the server then
There's lore
there are 3 other points
there is much server lore
I joined somewhere in 2024, dunno when... just spectating never said a single word
I hate having games on my Xbox but I'm not interested in playing any of them
Did I suggest a channel?
did you?
wdym
idk
every jester role is personalised btw
Jestered members are very hard to understand, well except mesozoic ham and carrot
This looks like an expansion to singularity or something, I know the next one should be atomic age but this looks like singularity
dude i cant keep up with the updates xD
prob singularity II
Maybe this - #๐ฌ-cells-chat message
oh wait quality of life updates are always an update that's about adding or fixing something
Giving us a just-refund-the-chips-not-the-whole-engine button ๐
just realized the crustacean text update banner has a lesbian colored text
Maybe it's the return of the whatmadoodie thingamajigs.
So this means that with this update, I don't need to do the empty sim strategy anymore?
hopefully
i was just about to ask that
wait they said they fixed time chambers only
what about time crystals
So the 14d empty sim start is gone? Now we can play the game "normally"?
@dry cairn did a test while it was in beta - Empty Sim is no longer a thing. #๐ฌ-beta-chat message
Can the DIS software detect game cheating?
Interesting
Nice crustaceans, but this roadmap doesn't tell a thing.
I think after "Industrial revolution" next era should be atomic age. Next information age, next emergent age.
Beyond is confirmed to have ended with "cosmic horizon". And there is no hint as what comes after crustacean on the roadmap.
yes
End of line for "beyond". No more updates on that front.
I was 1 day from a full 14 day empty sim and it will now take me a month and a half to gain that same amount of metabits and knowledge. Cool. Much more motivated to play now
that Dyson Sphere looks like "Orion's Arm Universe project" image.
but not for my hope that beyond prestige would be available
Not defending empty sim as a concept but holy nerf there's gotta be a better way
In the livestreams, people were asking for a roadmap. IMO the Devs clearly didn't really want to do them. People asked again. This is the result.
That's pretty funny then
I don't understand how its any more engaging to wait 14 days with a sim where you pretty much purchased everything in the first 10 minutes vs sitting 14 days with an empty sim where you then purchase everything in 10 minutes at the end.
I think so ๐.
Well, you can continue to buy more stuff when it's not an empty sim
You have your tech tree.
sometimes people who did empty sim run didnt open the game AT ALL
hence also affecting other side sims and exploration events
so that means they're gonna focus on the atmosphere event and the civilization II
Yeah my issue isn't actually the destruction of empty sim. I fully support that. Im just bitter at the time chamber nerf I guess
idk what did they mean by singularity II
Yes. It looks like singularity. I don't understand why singularity instead of atomic age.
Maybe some archaic "atomic age AI" that is developed in parallel across the ages. ๐
wtf even is empty sim? why wait 14 days?
it's patched, no need to do it anyway
It works out as the new way is very slightly better. Not very much though (as you'd expect).
never needed it was useless
Prior to this update time chambers only applied to metabit and knowledge fills after the time chamber was filled. Since with Time chambers you would get 100x on the fill values if you waited until both chambers were filled before buying everything you would get 100x the metabits and knowledge
it wasn't actually, it gives me a lot of boost that made me reach level 82 on primary simulation before this update
then is better to purchase at the start.
almost 83
people who arent in the discord server and dont know about empty sim run strat will be VERY surprised with this
lol
chat
what empty sim start? ๐ญ
Is episode 30 gonna be the end forever in the beyond?
How is better? Not trying to be contrarian but going from 100x multiplier you could apply to every fill by empty simming to 25x fill you can apply to every fill by playing normal is still a 75% nerf
probably
can i beat you and get 10 000 dollar?
maybe
woohoo
????
I feel like there being two of them is important.
Because the Devs balanced it - #๐ฌ-cells-chat message
no need to learn it
what is it though?
basically do nothing for 14 days and you'll get a starting boost from time chambers that will boost your simulation speed significantly
reset and do nothing for 14 days
ah ok
Thats sounds counterproductive
Thats interesting. Is there any more on the methodology? How often are they getting on and spending all the currency in the full sim?
What does "share-your-prestige" mean? Does it mean to send a photo to view all my prestige levels?
i wonder whos beating me first
you can share every progress of your game
for 10G
not just prestige
Not sure for this one. Gavel is reliable though. In other tests they've played a max of an hour a day to be a 'normal-ish' user.
That's really cool then. I agree poking it for around an hour a day is a reasonable level of comparison. Thanks for the extra context! I feel better ๐
Def no problem with you asking ๐.
Additionally I am stoked for not having to decide between XP and metabits
Aye. It'll be good for our games to feel alive again too.
Yeah I didn't mind too much given I am about to do first meso prestige and still have a good amount of beyond left + events. But it'll definitely feel better to not have to "game the system"
I stayed in my Primary simulation since I reached lvl 80 and I must say it feels ok not to do empty sim ๐
The extra advancement was not worth it imo. I just sat at RL79, waiting for the fix.
I agree with you spiritually but as Soren Johnson once famously said, "Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of any game"
In a game who's main purpose is "Number go up" playing in a way where number go up slower feels bad. So this is a big W Id say
Aligning the "fun" part fo the game with the "succeeding" part of the game should be the goal of all developers
I DID IT!!!
I think the Devs were completely blind-sided by Empty Sim. ๐คท
I think Lunch was #1
Absolutely. Players especially with active communities like this one will always be in an arms race with the devs to find new unexpected ways to exploit the game systems. Just when they're discovered, if they don't align with Dev intent for the right way to play the game, it yields opportunity for balance changes
I guess it's "full sim" now! Also, just confirmed the 2x exploit where you sit in a different part of the game, no longer works
I have to wait for a week ahh
hi
MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION: Did you keep your chips?
Yes. Yes I did. ๐
why people dont use their chips?
Annoyingly, didn't have enough saved up for that new time node. Grr.
Bruh the roadmap shows nothing
People don't?
Yes they do
Yeah I do too
It shows something
It's more like pastmap actually
Afaik it was independently discovered at least 4 times by players. Not many Devs, a lot of players...
why they nerfing time chambers and amplifiers?
A roadmap is supposed to show future plans, which this does not
are they? They have added a new time node. an expensive one.
what cost
I didn't know about it until I frequented the discord. Guess I'm slow ๐
Even the upcoming content section in the game tells more than the new roadmap lol
It shows a couple of hints of what it could be, like the Singularity thing & the clouds
from x10 to x5
To make up for Metabits / knowledge now being calculated with the Time Chamber node multipliers you have when you reboot your universe. It works out the same, but we get to play our game instead of ... Not playing it.
50 GG = 5E34
Eh, in this case the devs specifically went against the standard because they though it was easier to explain their way to players.
They were wrong, of course, and we got half a year of empty sim before they finally caved.
umm can u tell in scientific
5E34
oh, right, before u were getting metabits and knowledge based on multipliers u had when u turned of the game, they fixing this?
but i don't understand why it would require lowering the multipliers
@hollow pelicanCan I post something about the beta version on the forum?
Oh I'm guessing that shouldn't be expensive then, coz I alr get 1e30+ metabits/run
With crustaceans should skyrocket
It's for the same reason Empty Sim worked.
what they did was making so these boosts work retroactivelly on metabits you already got
Presumably because the previous balance was based on the faulty assumption that people weren't doing empty sim.
If you get 1E30 metabits, 5E34 would mean you would need to do 50000 runs!
Because by playing the sim instead of doing empty sim you get exponential growth on the fill number and now the multipliers apply retroactively
I mean 1e30 without the crust update
they must have added a lotta RE nodes with update no?
Hopefully
okay, what about people who didn't do empty sim? isn't it just a slap to them for nothing?
Ah ok. Anyway, I couldn't afford it. But yeah, there are a bunch of nodes, some of them quite "powerful"
FWIW, the fix applies to Human Spark too.
yes they are getting a huge slap of metabits
๐ Oh if u couldn't then nvm I defo won't
I thought avg metabit count would skyrocket by min e6 like it does with every update
Guys
I'm sure they'll hate getting more Metabits and knowledge.
Oh that's also huge. I was definitely ending empty sims doing one day only entropy to drum up humans before doing ideas
Im stuck in prestige 82
i am once again addicted to this game
huuuh, i'm really not understanding this then
Kf was being sarcastic ....
i know
It does, I went from like 28E33 stored to about 4.2E39 as I'm letting my empty sim run complete
The way this update balanced. Everybody is going to get the amount of metabits that empty sim people were getting but now nobody has to do empty sim
okay, now that's a good explanation, thanks
๐ญ then what's the issue? You'll start getting exp more metabits/knowledge now min e4 more if u never did empty sim
cuz i just didn't understand it
OMG I WANT SO MUCH METABITS AND KNOWLEDGE OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
No, because the other half of the mechanic change is that you get more Metabits/Knowledge from each fill. So even the players who didn't use empty sim got buffed to offset that 75% nerf.
Not doing empty sim you were probably getting like 1500 metabit fills before your time chambers fully spun up. That's why people did empty sims. Now as the time chambers ramp up the multiplier applies to all fills instead of just the ones that come after
Then isn't 1e34 more or less easily attainable as long as u have been playing regularly?
what is empty sim
rebooting and waiting 14 days befoire playing
Why don't they make everything cheaper?
If you say so ๐
What should I do about Article 4?
oh wow, never tried that before, does it work well?
Why would they?
Should I reset before the update?
no
it was just patched in the crustacean update
oh man ๐ญ
i already reset after this update
why crying? now everyone gets more metabits
The patch made those benefits standard to all players now instead of people doing the niche strategy
why do you say "why would they"?
Idk, I'm an edge case, I have way more research chips than I should.
My advice. Find a mod (QuarterPL or SampeDrako are good options if you see them around - DM them if you've been waiting ~ 1 day), apologise for doing the thing wrong. Or ask what it was. Promise you won't do it again.
There's no more weird strategies to consider.
Everyone is just playing as normal now.
Balance changes should generally require a reason
Fair enough, but u were getting 1000x more than me before update from what I see
If it stays same after update, then I can get time node after 1-2 full resets
im just on prestige 3 dino valley, i could hit more but it gets tedious after a while
Yeah, you'll need to play and see
Good news! You only have to do ||550 Meso resets|| in total
Ye, Ig might buy RE nodes on steam today and check
...for some definition of "good".
I was at maxed time nodes. When I load the new version with my old progress I lose
knowledge.
But my new
metabit earnings are at max efficiency.
When I reset before updating I lock in the
knowledge earnings but the new
metabit content will be at lower efficiency.
So there is a trade-off to make.
oh true. we will lose a bit of knowledge.
Ah, due to Human Spark?
Well, I guess due to the nerf that is meant to counterbalance Human Spark
A lot?
I should have made screenshots to give you the numbers.
No worries ๐
1.96E+39 -> 5.37E+38
was the decrease my knowledge took when I loaded the update.
4x decrease, lines up
๐ Boson amplifier defo impossible to get
Idk why they increased it from 5e38 in beta to 5e42 in prod
how nice :D
i hope im looking at the right numbers.
but yeah, hilariously Boson just got harder to get, lol
Devs trolling us ๐
Lmaoo I think there should be a similar one in the new update
which is prolly impossible to get
i have a theoru
theory
at the end of the roadmap
the new one
we can see a dyson sphere
i think
it is one
so maybe
MAYBE
there could be a new branch for the ideas part
honestly im more interested how what should be the atomic age is 2 faces
still the top emoji
maybe we are getting the cyborg branch sooner than expected
maybe
i hope
so
The two Decupler nodes give Metabits and Knowledge 10x
while the Metabit and Knowledge time chambers went from 10,000 to 1,250.
the two things mostly balance out.
We already had the knowledge Decupler though so knowledge got a nerf.
either that or atomic age will have a really weird trophy
new event badge node tho
which boosts it to oblivion again
I would like the update to be available for me on Android ... Soon ...
switch to steam 
this is beyond their 6 months series of updates promise but well... the balancing was 100% done now

maybe the social changes
its under civ renovation
so as we know
all of the extra sims are done
not the events
i dont mean that
will any more secondary sims will be added?
Unlikely
The Devs were asked that in a recent livestream or two. Don't hold your breath.
Im just one level away from level 79 and i aint been gaining any progress at all on level 78
If so itโd be years and years
Time to reset simulation and cash out some upgrades 
Yeah ive been doing that for the past 5 days
And if you cant get good upgrades wait 7-14 days, so that the timechambers max out
๐๐ผ
I am a grown up. I'll cope. Probably.
Man steam is not for everyone
Some people dont even have computers
But an 1000 buck iPhone 
Don't have a laptop / pc that I can use. My employer would very much not be impressed.
That costs 1000$ that's too much
are you sure? Maybe he is a fellow cells enjoyer or you can convert him 
@amber canyon there is one mobile achievement that's called ||โWelcomeโ|| that is 100% unlockable

really-
yes
also addition to this... it's description is ||โWelcome to the gameโ||
how did i not get this
prob the test achievement
no
What are you talking about
mobile achievement
not secret achievement
Is that true?
yes
How do you unlock it?
0 people have unlocked this achievement
and it gives 500 xp
Nobody knows where this achievement is?
One of the GooglePlay secret achievements?
Welcome
Welcome to the game
Ok
that's the image
it's googleplay ach
not in game ach
it's different xp from this
I still dont understand it
Huh. I did 'Delete Save' and didn't get that one. I did get these two though
Google/Apple/Steam all have different achievement systems.
No effect on the game itself
XP in the game determines your Research Level. Which unlocks things to buy.
Not THAT xp
Lemme send an immage if I can
I cant rn but when you complete/do an event
There is a lil thing that is xp
that is probably the test achievement
the only unlockable achievement
Science Points?
Kinda
Oh thx
I remember when you unlocked things in the event
There was a little ball following what you buyed
I think if you clicked that
It showed you that
I dont remember much
The only XP in this game pertains to attaining new Research Levels (RLs), but that's not something that's part of an event
Before the Reality Reboot?
Maybe that was an old update that was changed to the leaderboard
Ah yeah. Completely different now.
Ola
What was that?
Alguรฉm fala portuguรชs?
roblox ahh achievement 
Tell me about that
Que
It was just how your score was calculated. All but primary or the Reality Engine were quite easy to max iirc.
Ok
So uhh same as you, I'm gonna make a backup save, then delete my save then try to get every achievement possible on googleplay
Have fun. I got bored myself ๐. I did test getting them on the old ||alpha|| app cos I had a convenient file kicking around. No joy.
yep
Found an old screenshot from before the RR.
Before RR feels like years ago but it was November.
I'm imagining what happens when the crustacean update is actually before RR.... gonna unlock it with
24 Qa
NO WAY
wait yeah
who voiced semblance again?
In think Maddy does most of the voice work.
OK, the new time crystal (i.e. metabits/knowledge) formula is basically 1 + (oldFormula - 1) * (base/2 - 1) / (base - 1)
N.B. That "base" used to be 100 with amplifier, 10 without. Now it's 50 with amplifier, still 10 without.
I do notice that what I got from completing an empty sim run a little while ago (after buying what nodes I could with saved metabits, right after Crustaceans arrived), I now get from a quick run (after buying more nodes from a few fast runs). That's nice ๐
What is oldformula bruh
Did I get it right that now is no point anymore of empty sim at all
Because multiplayer applies to all fills
Is that with the scaling down of costs after each update in mind?
multiplier and yes
They renamed them back to Crystals?
I completed the empty sim run after crustaceans dropped
Beyond that, idk, I just see that I am getting about the same metabits. ofc this means that after 14d it should be tons and tons of mb ๐
...They did not. I forgot they unified the naming ๐
Tell us without telling us ๐
It's even chamber internally, so I have no excuse
What is this formula?
๐ These updates always seem to roll around when I'm halfway through an empty run
I js realized the Nanobots appear in gardens when you summon them
This is Metabits (with Amplifier) assuming the same number of fills. It doesn't account for any changes to Entropy which would give more fills, including our 14 days of playing.
Without the amplifier, by the end we get only 25% of previous as @north plover noted. But with the amplifier, we're only getting 6.25%
New monster
The new calculation for the Metabit Time Chamber multiplier
Hi

to kf