💬-cells-chat

[dull river]

it's kinda both

[clear zenith]

I don't actually remember which is correct

[hollow pelican]

Research Level is the correct one

[clear zenith]

good to know

[ripe kayak]

What do I do here

[hushed echo]

What does this mean?

[hollow pelican]

try to balance your entropy and idea boost with those research chips

[dull river]

yeah I keep it balanced too

[hollow pelican]

It increases your nanobots time

[vocal hinge]

What if I

[hollow pelican]

What if you become a Jester rn

[hollow pelican]

Nice

[dull river]

give you an idea of the time chambers

[ripe kayak]

Is that all they're for?

[clear zenith]

yep

[ripe kayak]

I thought they're used for unlocking new nodes

[hollow pelican]

yep

Research Chips are actually more useful than Darwiniums

[dull river]

every 10th chip spent doubles both multis

[clear zenith]

no, that's what Research Level is for (unlocking new nodes I mean)

[ripe kayak]

Oh I see

Ugh so confusing

What is terminus cjamber

[clear zenith]

every time you level up, you both unlock a new node and get a research chip

[clear zenith]

a collection of all the generators and trophies you've unlocked by increasing your Research Level

no mechanics behind it really, it just looks kinda cool

[dull river]

that's where you see stuff like Industrial Revolution, and other unlocked sections... what noodle said

[ripe kayak]

Nothing happens when I click on it

[hollow pelican]

Your simulation has to be running in order to enter it

[ripe kayak]

Oh okay

Rebooting simulation now

[dull river]

Terminus Chamber

eventually there will be enough stuff released to complete the sphere

so you can look at it like the devs are only halfway done making the game unless another massive change occurs

[hollow pelican]

I'm curious, what RL are you rn

[vocal hinge]

If you think about it

There’s only 1 node per new age in there

[clear zenith]

correct

[hollow pelican]

Yes, and that node represents the whole age that it was and is representing to

[vocal hinge]

I quit

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-professionals-here-cat-cat-suit-suit-cat-in-a-suit-gif-9077615009276165349

[clear zenith]

oh

[hollow pelican]

wha

[dull river]

lol... being tabbed out of the game too long crashes it XD

[clear zenith]

oop

[dull river]

well prehistoric is 2/13... been lazy about getting further because not much after the first max

other than major content updates, I'm just lacking on a few things which are mostly events

[clear zenith]

Fair. I wish there was something more to prestiging than that one trait card and being able to progress faster

[vocal hinge]

I MEAN IMAGINE ALL THE NEW CONTENT NEEDED TO FILL IT!!!

[dull river]

also the loss of ALL cards sucked

[clear zenith]

Yeah. That's why I limit myself on how many I buy each prestige

[dull river]

learned that after the first time

[hollow pelican]

Atomic age II, Emergent Age II, Singularity II, Crustacean, [REDACTED], [REDACTED], [REDACTED], [REDACTED], and so on

[vocal hinge]

Information Age hate

[dull river]

still the branch of research at the top of the tree teasing us for years

[hollow pelican]

oh yep I always missed that

[hollow pelican]

uhh what?

[vocal hinge]

One time I thought Bronze Age was a secret canceled generator

[clear zenith]

well you see, it's only one of those things

[vocal hinge]

Don’t forget the secrets to the left and right of primordial

[dull river]

yeah, all the pending potentials scattered along the tree

[hollow pelican]

It hasn't even stayed there for years bro

it's a post-mars content

[vocal hinge]

do you guys remember when cyborg-colonist was down the tree with humans

[dull river]

and mars has been there quite awhile... and I do

[hollow pelican]

OG will remember that

We got cyborg before singularity

[vocal hinge]

Well

[dull river]

pre-daily login bonuses and the Darwinium purchased boost augments

[vocal hinge]

Dude

Remember how much the augments originally boosted

giant squid bro

[hollow pelican]

Fungi as a generator is when I started

I don't remember which version it is

[vocal hinge]

Yeah why did they change that

[hollow pelican]

They could make a Fungi Expansion tho

[vocal hinge]

do you guys remember when everyone said get giant squid then capybara

[hollow pelican]

because it's a whole kingdom

[vocal hinge]

now it’s barely worth it

[vernal hatch]

Why is saving mutagens important in prestige?

Are there gonna be a huge advantage at prestige 10?

[hollow pelican]

Because you can keep all of your rare and epic cards

those Darwiniums are important to upgrade those cards

[vernal hatch]

Oh uh

I meant specifically for prestige 10

[dull river]

yeah, lesser cards reset to 0 (unclaimed) but the big name ones are permanent

you want mutagens to build back up quickly

[vernal hatch]

Guide said that by saving up, I should have like 1.2M mutagens at last stage

[dull river]

and you need like 1.2B to max all the cards or something like that

probably more

[vernal hatch]

Alright

So I guess it's because of the epics and rares

Thank you

[dull river]

I was sad the first prestige when the common cards went from lvls 10-15 back to go find them again

[hollow pelican]

uhh that's the whole point of mutagens

[clear zenith]

I've got 1.82M at the end of prestige 5 and I have not been that careful with my spending, so it's not too tricky

though it's also possible I got the bug and didn't realize 🤔

[dull river]

use the daily freebies too

like Beyond (Exploration) simulation 30, the 5 tasks are basically always White Dwarf and Red Sun missions unless I need a top-up on the resource

cards, cards and more cards

well, I'm off for now... I still have another 3-4 days before the 3rd shark can be claimed and I apparently have 3 more weeks of claiming to do after that

[solid marsh]

I think the devs nerfed the time chambers

Before ir2, 6 days would give a 34x boost

Now it only gives a 19x boost

[ripe kayak]

This is going pretty well

Was able to unlock amphibian relatively easily after months of being 1e7 away

[runic stag]

How do you get flat universe 💔

at this rate it will take a month to reach it 😭

[rough axle]

[ripe kayak]

Flat univers?

[unkempt flint]

||the sun is a deadly lazer lovely generator||

and rare, epic cards and constellations

[warm hill]

ahh my bad, I didn't know I have to use thread for that channel

[clear zenith]

lategame Beyond stuff

[warm hill]

is the universe flat

[vocal hinge]

I saw that

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-uncanny-cat-meme-funny-gif-10335249887687121387

[warm hill]

hello

[solid marsh]

How do I strike?

[vocal hinge]

did you try to do

this

it’s two of these

~~

[solid marsh]

Ok

[vocal hinge]

so ~~ (text) ~~

[solid marsh]

~~text

[vocal hinge]

surrounding it

[solid marsh]

text

YIPPPEEE

[warm hill]

i want echinoderms in the game so bad

[solid marsh]

Them starfish, sea cucumber, sea urchin and sand dollar

[warm hill]

and crinoids

I would love crinoids in the game

[solid marsh]

But the area around the ocean in the tree is crowded

[hot drift]

hello pepol

[solid marsh]

Yellow

[mellow carbon]

hello fellow bots 🤖

[warm hill]

hello hello

[solid marsh]

💦 <-- Be careful of that water

[warm hill]

I am a robot and I like to dance

[solid marsh]

💦 beware of the wata

[unkempt flint]

oh wow talk about active event, just started with 1d11h remaining and slotted into division 321 already

[hollow pelican]

no problem

[hot drift]

[hot drift]

x2

[rough axle]

Why must I do this to myself

[plucky marlin]

Did you know that Feliformia doesn’t include just cats, but also some other mammals? These include fossas, mongooses, civets, hyenas, and others. That’s why I think there should be a hyena trophy. I don’t care if I’ve gotta buy it with a months worth of logits, itd be more accurate. Unless the names inaccurate and it should be Felidae, in which case it should be with the caniforms instead.

[clear zenith]

Good news, there's a way to suggest stuff to the devs: #🏠-general message

[fallen sand]

Excellent, thanks! While this means it's technically possible that some far-flung requirements remain (if [1] ,[2], or [3] are actually needed for some nodes), for all practical purposes this proves a fairly simple through-line

I've been sidetracked by the scripting, as I found some unintended behaviour. Started comparing different approaches to find an acceptable tradeoff between compute time, manual effort, and score

I'd probably be willing to stick with the simplest if the others were <5% better but that spike in the scripted one has me wondering

[warm hill]

hey guys how do I know what level I am right now

in this server

[hollow pelican]

#🎮-bot-room message

14

[warm hill]

thanks

[warm hill]

do you guys have a full png of life tech tree

[forest anchor]

See wiki, Primary Simulation page

[warm hill]

I can't save it

[forest anchor]

Hmm. I'm currently unable to take a look via desktop so I can't help right now

[vernal hatch]

Is this normal for this guy to get bigger

I can't tell if this is intentional or not

[warm hill]

I think it's stuck

it's supposed to be small

[vernal hatch]

Oh, yeah you're right

I thought it was like 'congratulations your did it' thing

[warm hill]

wait how are you higher level in side simulation

I'm research level 72

and I don't have any prestige yet

[vernal hatch]

Let's say that I invested more in side simulations

Also, I left my main sim for a while to do a empty sim run

I got like, 4 level ups in an instant

[warm hill]

what's an empty sim run

[vernal hatch]

You deliberately leave main simulation for a while to get some time chamber stacks

I've heard that it's really good for farming knowledge and metabits

[mellow carbon]

It is. I wish they'd get rid of it as the dominant strategy in endgame. It's really boring.

[vernal hatch]

Also, thank you for carefully leaving reactions to every message. Though, I don't think you don't really have to do that. You can just react to the last ones.

[mellow carbon]

👍

[warm hill]

thumps up

[clear zenith]

I'm pretty sure they're working on a fix

[vernal hatch]

I wonder resetting simulation itself is gonna be automated later

[mellow carbon]

I'm cynical about that since I feel like if they wanted to do a fix it would be done by now. Same with the 2x time one.

[warm hill]

do you guys have a full png of life tech tree🙁🙁

I can't save the pic from fandom

[clear zenith]

It takes the devs time to develop stuff yk...

The 2x bug though is a fair point

[clear zenith]

more than just the tech tree but [here ya go](#1343287567889600742 message)

[ripe kayak]

Oh I'm on 26

[warm hill]

it's low res tho

nvm is high res

[clear zenith]

yeah just takes a second to load

[warm hill]

thanks btw

[ripe kayak]

What level does beyond end

[mellow carbon]

30

[hollow pelican]

Ahh, it takes half an hour to just render it

[hollow pelican]

30

[craggy token]

1 minute and 47 seconds singularity speedrun

Is this good

[vernal hatch]

You can optimize it even more by watching that upgrade bar carefully

Some upgrades aren't necessary for reaching singularity, so focus on when the 'buyable generator counter' number goes up

[mellow carbon]

Also depends on whether you're playing with an autoclicker.

[hollow pelican]

I ain't even reach that under 1:30 bro

[inner cargo]

Does the lil rat get a friend cause i'm sad it's alone

[hollow pelican]

The rat will eat a sandwich and then someone will draw it, after that they will call the painting “Computerlunch”

[vernal hatch]

That was truly our cell to singularity

[inner cargo]

That's cute
I wish it had a friend tho
My obsession with rats is not letting me rest about it since they're social animals and need friends

[inner cargo]

I'm not even half as far so i'm impressed

[warm hill]

a rat bit me while I'm sleeping

[peak lily]

I managed the speedeun achievement before but I don't even remember how, seems like I never get close to that time any more. Although TBF, I'm not really trying to be super fast.

[warm hill]

gerbil trophy

[inner cargo]

Damn that's tough bro
Did it bite hard?

[warm hill]

yeah, it was like a year ago

yeah it hurt so bad

I had a tetanus shot

[inner cargo]

Damn 😭

[warm hill]

and bleed so bad

like I remember waking up

[inner cargo]

Yeah they can chew through concrete... So that gotta hurt

[warm hill]

and I felt my finger hurting so bad and it's sticky

[inner cargo]

Like a wild rat tho???

[warm hill]

no like a house rat

[inner cargo]

But you know was it a pet

[warm hill]

I won't want to get into the details cuz I think it's gory?

[solid marsh]

Not rabies?

[inner cargo]

That's fine

[warm hill]

it's rare to have a rat being a rabie carrier

they just give me a tetanus shot

[solid marsh]

Isn't tetanus for rusty metal?

[warm hill]

well I turned on the lights an I saw blood covering my finger

[warm hill]

no, not really

it's from a bacteria usually carried by rats

but can be found in poop or soil

rusty nails canhave a tetanus is it's contaminated

[inner cargo]

I mean their teeth look rusty XD

[inner cargo]

How deep did it bite???

[solid marsh]

This feels like general channel convo

[inner cargo]

Yeah

[forest anchor]

And that's where I take part! Introducing... #🏠-general! Lately the conversations have been better, so don't wait and join us!

/nsrs

[warm hill]

idrk but it made bump healing

now it's gone

[inner cargo]

I mean we can move the convo there

[warm hill]

anyways ik it was a rat because our house was infested with rats

[craggy token]

What if it was a shoebill

[warm hill]

shoebill would never attack people

and never been

[craggy token]

Its a joke

What is the last animal

[warm hill]

mollusk

and the icon is a nautilus

[craggy token]

Yay two seconds faster

[hollow pelican]

Wth bro

I can't even do that

also, empty sim is a great method to push your simulation further and faster

[craggy token]

What is an empty sim

[hollow pelican]

Mollusk and it will be Crustacean soon

[hollow pelican]

You do nothing for 14 days and it will max out your time chamber for Metabit and/or Knowledge Time chamber

[craggy token]

Like never play the game?

[hollow pelican]

It will give you a starter boost that helps you push further to the game

[hollow pelican]

When you reboot, just do nothing

[craggy token]

Cuz i want to grind events

[hollow pelican]

It has nothing to do with events too

[craggy token]

Ok

👍

[hollow pelican]

#💬-cells-chat message

that's an empty sim

where you run a sim and do nothing

[oak pagoda]

research level 41 doesn'"t unlock anything ?

[forest anchor]

See wiki, Research Level page. I'm not sure personally

[solid marsh]

Nice salesman

[oak pagoda]

ok, it unlocks the possibility to buy stuff with darwinium and so

[solid marsh]

The ocean garden is getting so many updates but no revamps

[wraith terrace]

It needs no revamp

Not at the moment at least

[solid marsh]

It is too small and under used

[warm hill]

i like your idea where it's divided into three sections

[wraith terrace]

It's not the size. It's what you do with it

[solid marsh]

It's getting so much attention but also no attention

[solid marsh]

Everything is in one spot the rest is bear

[solid marsh]

Thx

[warm hill]

but instead on the viewer revolving on a point

the viewer is rotating on an axis

[solid marsh]

The cam should be based like a semi circle

[warm hill]

yeah maybe like that

and the depths of rash sections are different of course, shallow to deep

coral reefs, barren oceans, deep sea

[wraith terrace]

Before thinking about Ocean Garden, take a look at the Mars Garden and then tell me again which one should get the next overhaul

[solid marsh]

Maybe even small above water areas for crabs and stuff

[solid marsh]

Both equally deserve attention

[wraith terrace]

And why should the Ocean Garden so much more complex than the others?

[solid marsh]

It should be equal to the land garden

[wraith terrace]

Maybe. But this three sections you are talking about?

Oh wait, my bad

Just realized I misunderstood

Yeah, it is a nice idea

A bit close too Lurking in the Dark maybe. Also, most of the garden would be empty and black

[solid marsh]

Lurking in the dark doesn't have a garden

[wraith terrace]

Indeed. And why doesn't it? Because the tree is already mostly dark background

[solid marsh]

Deep ocean will have vents

[amber canyon]

I quite like the ocean garden. Going lurking with the outsiders e.g . ||Giant Squid|| and ||Angler Fish||; following ||Narwal|| and the ||Manta Ray|| around; saying hi to ||Semblance||

[solid marsh]

It need a revamp

[amber canyon]

Why?

[solid marsh]

2% is densely crowded
10% is barely used
88% Sponge

[wraith terrace]

Didn't know the last one. Will look for it

[wraith terrace]

Sounds like the brain of an average human

[hollow pelican]

agreed

[amber canyon]

The centre is rowded because the dolphins are making a fish ball. Like they do irl. It is sparse when it gets darker, just like irl. 88% sponge?

Anyway, it's not 100% accurate, but is good.

[hollow pelican]

Yep, I want to have 2 trophies after the fish gen, and both represent a swarm of fish

So they didn't just cramped like a ball

[solid marsh]

It is sad compared to the land garden

[hollow pelican]

Wait, what ocean garden version are we now on

3?

[solid marsh]

2.0 I think

Not sure

[amber canyon]

The dolphins can herd them too 😁

[hollow pelican]

It kinda feels hot inside that fish ball because its crowded even though it's underwater

[glass cobalt]

the pinned beyond guide seemingly tells you that "After this, all remaining Star Fragments should be saved up." you should still buy constellations right?

[amber canyon]

Yeah - that was written before Beyond was finished. I think saving was likely to be for future constellations. Check the /tat bot for current constellation advice.

[glass cobalt]

alright got it

tbf these guides don't tell me too much I don't know, doesn't make the game much faster 😭

[amber canyon]

The game is quite simple 🤷.

But some people don't think about focussing on most productive generators, only buying useful constellations etc.

[glass cobalt]

still don't really get how other people I see breeze through mesozoic valley when mine is a sloooow burn

[amber canyon]

You in pc/Steam? Did you get diamond geodes near level 50? Also, it's easier to speed through if you're not saving mutagen.

[glass cobalt]

I'm on steam, and I haven't reached 50, I'm on 25 currently

my dad and my little brother both play the game and both play on steam and both are getting through it at around half the time

[amber canyon]

Steam is a lot slower than mobile (because no ad boost). You might want to buy a diamond geode now if you have DW spare. I guess your relatives are playing more actively? Or got better stone geode / mystery trait RNG.

[glass cobalt]

could be, but my levels definitely aren't bad

pretty much everything over the 3 newest cards is level 6 at least

[amber canyon]

Do you focus on the missions? It's usually best to ignore those until they're easy.

Idk really - I found the Meso guide decently accurate for good play.

[glass cobalt]

I usually buy the top earning generators for a while and when that becomes slow I start doing missions

[amber canyon]

It may be as simple as they log on more often.

[glass cobalt]

we all have the game on all the time lol

usually we don't turn it off

my dad especially jesus 😭

[amber canyon]

You could transfer your save to mobile and stock up on ad boost, then move it back to Steam.

[amber canyon]

I am mobile but I'd finished Meso in ~30-40 days in in game timer, and 4 months irl. Not rushing it. I had infinity Pass for one of those months. And spent a fair amount of DW on diamond geodes, as well as often placing top 10 in events.

Some players (not just Steam) have been playing for years and not finished Meso. It all depends ...

[glass cobalt]

events are so hit or miss for me

[amber canyon]

You are playing in hard mode on Steam. Unless you stock up on ad boost via mobile.

[glass cobalt]

that is true, but I think I've reached top 25 before

really just depends on how the event goes because you can't be at your computer all the time

[amber canyon]

And starting about a day in, and getting the good luck to be in a lazy div.

[glass cobalt]

why start later? does that give you better divs?

[amber canyon]

Early divs are often filled with 💜tryhards💜 who have lots of badges. As long as you can get the three badges, I'd avoid starting in the first 24h (to make ranking high easier).

[glass cobalt]

makes sense

shouldn't there be separate leaderboards for something like events for mobile and pc? I suppose with the save transfers that's a little difficult to implement but mobile users will just be better by default unless pc players have a lot of darwinium

[amber canyon]

I don't think so - too hard to implement. And pc/Steam players can use auto-clickers.

It'd only make sense if the Devs shut down the cross-platform save feature. Which would be bad.

[glass cobalt]

yeah

the events are flawed but there's no real way to make it more fair

[amber canyon]

And remember, the Devs need to get paid, so ads for boost helps with that.

[glass cobalt]

true

[latent kestrel]

Is this tuff??

[hollow pelican]

it is indeed tuff

[latent kestrel]

Yippeeee

[hollow pelican]

Also, I'm curious... what rank are y'all in the global leaderboard?

[latent kestrel]

Lemme check

Holy

Holy no tuff

[hollow pelican]

oh, nice

Mine's 1,339

[latent kestrel]

Type shit

How does the system work

Of the leaderboard

[hollow pelican]

The higher your RL, the higher your position on the global leaderboard

RL is Research Level btw

[latent kestrel]

Ohh alright

Ok ok

Ykw, since I'm not even at the top 100k, I'ma tryhard this week bro

I'ma grind like I have no life

[solid marsh]

Why am I in the the Beta leaderboards?
I LEFT MONTHS AGO??

[latent kestrel]

Lol

[solid marsh]

Who should I ask to move me to the normal leaderboards?

Atleast I'm top 10k

[solid marsh]

May the wisdom of the elders ( @hollow pelican ) guide me.

[amber canyon]

Afaik leaving beta does not move you out of the beta leaderboards. The leaderboard is a one way thing.

This is likely because your game could always be boosted because of having been beta compared to normal players. And therefore it would be unfair for normal players to be competing against you.

[glacial pasture]

oh

okay

[solid marsh]

Ok

That makes sense

I did get that primary sim booster chip for free

[quasi ivy]

im gonna start rocks soon

[glass cobalt]

is there actually something beyond this point or is this just a le epic troll from the devs?

[quasi ivy]

hey is that noelle holiday

[amber canyon]

There are far more things that beta players can take advantage of. Especially iOS players. But things like unbalanced builds, extra chips ... Yeah.

[glass cobalt]

that is noelle holiday yes

[quasi ivy]

crazy

[glass cobalt]

I mean isn't there a button to get you to the level of the new content so you could either go up or down meaning you could go from 30 to 60-something in a single click?

[quasi ivy]

WHO IS THAT MONEY EVENT LOVER I SEE

[polar viper]

future stuff. its everywhere in the game. lines going to not yet available upgrades

[quasi ivy]

YOU

how dare you

like the money event!!!!

[solid marsh]

I didn't have that?

[polar viper]

[solid marsh]

I was in the Alpha
Not beta

[polar viper]

i like money

[glass cobalt]

pretty sure it's in one of the tabs in the reality engine in the current beta at least

[amber canyon]

There's a future content anomaly.

[quasi ivy]

woo hoo more space exploration

[forest anchor]

Not troll, and not yet

[solid marsh]

I was in the pre reality reboot alpha

[glass cobalt]

it'd be cool if the devs made a really clear distinction between future content nodes and nodes you don't have access to yet

[solid marsh]

I already know all the augments for upcoming updates

[amber canyon]

Same. And on a different save, with a different email and game ID. I have resigned myself. It's not important, and the Devs have better things to do imo.

[glass cobalt]

the line in the distance is already clear but I didn't see it so :D

[quasi ivy]

geode opening simulator go brrr

[solid marsh]

I won't say because I'm a good boy

[quasi ivy]

happy happy happy

[glass cobalt]

how does one even apply for the current alpha?

[polar viper]

about lines leading to not yet existing upgrades

[amber canyon]

There isn't one.

[glass cobalt]

ah, gotcha

[amber canyon]

It was just for the Reality Reboot.

But some people just won't let it drop and keep talking about it ... 🤷.

[glass cobalt]

the nodes with the little circles on the end are in the game already right?

I'd assume only the other ones are future content

[polar viper]

teasers everywhere

[amber canyon]

Not necessarily ... Quite a few of those were in the game but sorta removed at the reboot. The pull out tab is the most reliable source of info.

[glass cobalt]

well I'm seeing a lot of em 😭

[solid marsh]

Effiel tower go brr

[amber canyon]

Most of those were re-instated with the Industrial Revolution update and will become available / visible to you as you progress. There's still some of the circles like that, that aren't back in game yet.

Current content unlocks finish at RL81 I think.

[solid marsh]

RL82 I think

[glass cobalt]

damn

tbf I'm not that far away

kinda

I'm at 66 right now

[solid marsh]

How did you unlock the effiel tower?

[solid marsh]

That's unlocked that 74?

[glass cobalt]

I have no clue man

maybe it's a beta thing? I wouldn't know

[solid marsh]

Well

I think the devs will give you some free Darwinium fir this mistake

[glass cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/devious-devious-smile-devious-emoji-gif-12743683124666080615

[steady dune]

I got it unlocked early because logged on pc to donate through steam. And got it on mobile before 22.04, but it was just hanging there

[glass cobalt]

yeah it's just been there

idk if it's something the devs did with the beta

[prime vale]

new update

[steady dune]

it was with price, like I can unlock it

[glass cobalt]

some of these events are so painfully slow

[solid marsh]

Btw I heard u got roles from sampeDrako ☑ing u in the share your prestige channel

He ☑ed mine

Now what?

[glass cobalt]

are the event divs the same between current release and beta?

[solid marsh]

No

Don't think so

[glass cobalt]

only thing that makes that kinda weird to me is that I'm in div 238 and I can't imagine there being that many beta divs, especially since I joined early

[amber canyon]

Not sure what you mean. If your screenshots justified a role, Sampe would have given them to you. Unless something was missed.

[solid marsh]

What are the list of roles?

[amber canyon]

Please spoiler things like this. Not all people have got there yet

Also, cheating to get to the end of the update isn't impressive.

[amber canyon]

Check the pins in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/496430259114082304

[polar viper]

he deleted it

but i got this saved

[polar dagger]

My bad sorry

[polar dagger]

I’m pretty sure you get that by cheating if I not wrong

[polar viper]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-gif-15943210

[polar dagger]

[glass cobalt]

the only thing I cheat on is my wife amirite lads?

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-laugh-knee-slapper-gif-3463839

no but seriously cheating ain't no fun

[polar dagger]

True

Is darwinium more better than real life dollars because I think it is better

[polar viper]

once my local pizza place accepts darwinium im in

[glass cobalt]

guys look at my research level I'm so good

[amber canyon]

That's aMaZiNg! You're so good at this game! 😉

[polar viper]

need to up your font game

[solid marsh]

Level 300 yet no neoaves

[glass cobalt]

🤫

[glass cobalt]

see that's part of the joke

I whipped this up in like 5 mins

[polar dagger]

How tf you get 300 level

😭

[glass cobalt]

by hacking into the mainframe and stealing everyone's levels

[polar dagger]

Oh okay

[glass cobalt]

close to the forbidden level

[polar viper]

i mean it still works i guess

[hollow pelican]

it is indeed by cheating and only by cheating

[hollow pelican]

Yes, the post mars content

[polar dagger]

Will it be like a simulation like beyond or exploration?

[hollow pelican]

I'm sorry I couldn't guide you that time because I'm offline

[hollow pelican]

No

Just the same like those glitchy blobs in the primordial section

[polar dagger]

Okay

[glass cobalt]

can't wait when I'm finally done with mesozoic valley 25 and can finally get mordecai regular show

[polar dagger]

I know industrial revolution II just came out like a few days ago but…….where is atomic age II. (Totally not impatient)

[hollow pelican]

They focused on automation and crustacean afaik

Atomic age II will come later hopefully

[polar dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-15059729514926516797

[solid marsh]

Das my level

[glass cobalt]

if they ever wanna make a new simulation then going smaller instead of bigger would be kinda cool

[polar dagger]

True

[glass cobalt]

atomic level simulation

[hollow pelican]

Subatomic space

Maybe

[polar dagger]

Isnt the primordial soup stage technically the smaller part

[hollow pelican]

Another simulation

not garden

So it's likely going to be the opposite of beyond

[solid marsh]

It's been a while since the last new explore event.

[glass cobalt]

well it goes small but not that small, just like how mars goes into space but not that far and beyond expands it

[hollow pelican]

After cheese, they focused on Reality Reboot Alpha

that's why there's no content or update for months

[glass cobalt]

smh devs focusing on actually important stuff instead of side content

0/10 devs

[hollow pelican]

After the RR (Reality Reboot) they said that there will be a series of updates after RR for 6 months

we're now at the end of the 5th months

Kinda like the Cambrian Explosion thingy

[solid marsh]

I remember when every third explore event was new

[amber canyon]

That was because they were trying to give us content to keep us going through the drought that would happen during the Reality Rebootm

[polar dagger]

True

[solid marsh]

U got jestered

[polar dagger]

I know

Cell to singularity does imply there is a singularity to cell

[hollow pelican]

Jester with no cheating records

[polar viper]

imo they can wait with new explore events another year
need a lot of badges at the current ones before its comfy to do them

[hollow pelican]

More like Home star to Fully Terraformed Environment

[solid marsh]

That's called rebooting

[polar dagger]

Oh okay

[polar dagger]

More like sun to comic microwave background

[hollow pelican]

That's beyond bro

[solid marsh]

More like Archosoaur to Giganauthosoarus

[hollow pelican]

More like Earth to Calabi-yau manifold

[polar dagger]

More like plank length to universe

[twin turtle]

Hi, how doesw the research for discount actually work?

[glass cobalt]

when are we getting the idle game meta event?

[polar dagger]

Idk

[solid marsh]

Tbh a explore event about cell to singularity would go hard

[glass cobalt]

the history of idle games would also be cool

cookie currency

[polar dagger]

Everything can be an exploration event at this point ✌️

[hollow pelican]

Every time that research level up, the one your researching will get a discount for example... Neptune has a discount research mission called “Oberon”, every time you level up “Oberon”... Neptune's cost will be reduced
The max discount mission level is 9

[hollow pelican]

And you're absolutely true

[glass cobalt]

exploration events exploration event

[polar dagger]

Languages would go hard

Infact everything would go hard

Even Wi-Fi exploration event

[solid marsh]

An exploration event about Religon

[wind summit]

Culture?

[twin turtle]

thanks, i am doing lvl 7 for mars and saturn right now. but what does it mean x8 discount? how much discout it actually is?

[polar dagger]

Original discount x8 so (cost-original discount x8)

But idk

[glass cobalt]

the gold earth was a pre-reality reboot thing right?

[polar dagger]

Yeah

[hollow pelican]

Maybe :8 ? I don't really know about cells formula to all of these things

[hollow pelican]

Yes

[glass cobalt]

I have swag points then

yay

[amber canyon]

Idk - I never thought it was important enough to look into, sorry. Is there some reason you think it's important? Asking in case I'm missing something.

[solid marsh]

That's a question for Nora

[polar dagger]

I do have an golden earth

[maiden gulch]

sup chat. what's the cost (in logits) of big ben? I'd like to know how much I have to save before I hit lvl 80

[glass cobalt]

I remember when I first got to use my save file on reality reboot and all of a sudden I couldn't even buy martian cities

[polar dagger]

250

[solid marsh]

250

[maiden gulch]

wow that's a lot. thanks!

[hollow pelican]

Golden earth is rare, but Neutrino Legacy Monument is legend

and unfortunately I can't get that

[glass cobalt]

250 for the same boost as a 50 logit unlock is wild 😭

[solid marsh]

Inflation is wild

[hollow pelican]

the dev trying to make us buy it by with a secret achievement

[amber canyon]

The problem with having a currency that has limited things you can spend it on, and no sink 🤷.

[glass cobalt]

this or something else?

[hollow pelican]

Yeah

I didn't get that

[glass cobalt]

I think I had it for a year or 2 before the update

[twin turtle]

I am just wondering because those planets are not contributing much to my income, so if it is even worth doing, if the discount is like completely negligible

[solid marsh]

I'm so salty I don't have this

[hollow pelican]

Same

[twin turtle]

you can get much more important stuff done than lets say 1% discount

[solid marsh]

I bought the neutrino but my phone got reset and I lost everything

[hollow pelican]

Same but mine's broken

I actually played this game from 2022 but then I lost my save and the account got corrupted

this is my second discord acc btw

[solid marsh]

I've been playing from before the beyond was added

[hollow pelican]

And then I made a new save on 2025 and finally got RL 82 rn

[polar dagger]

I started playing the game at 2020-2021, then I stopped playing then played again, then stopped playing and so on

Until today

[glass cobalt]

I remember watching my dad play when mesozoic valley was first introduced with the rock, I think I started in april 2021

"mesozoic valley rock"

[polar dagger]

I remember that

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-rebirth-jurassic-world-dinosaur-jurassic-park-t-rex-gif-3228290000372524547

I feel so prehistoric

[glass cobalt]

so prehistoric that you were there before the dinosaurs

[polar dagger]

When I first played, in thought there was a max level

So I continued to evolve amino acids

Until I realized there isnt

[glass cobalt]

when are we getting the extremely random amount cap update where you can rebirth your generators for no reason other than funny?

[hollow pelican]

unc 😭 💔

“Extropy”

[polar dagger]

I remember when there was no darwinium

[fast knot]

Just painted these guys

Been having fun on the art grind today

Did a third one but how appropriate it is to send is debatable

[prime vale]

isnt there art channel

[polar dagger]

I’m pretty sure you should upload these to the cells art

Channel

[fast knot]

Fair

[polar dagger]

But nice art

[hollow pelican]

You could send those in #993535727889563668 and it would be perfect

[hollow pelican]

No

[fast knot]

I didn't know there was general art

Highk

Hence why it's here

[hollow pelican]

it's cells related only art channel

[fast knot]

I did it in general art

And the third one

[fast knot]

Yeah that's why I didn't post it there

[polar dagger]

Ngl when Information Age II comes out, there should be when if you save up 150-200 logits you can get the Saturn V which gives you a 1.3x boost in simulation speed

[fast knot]

Never scrolled far enough to see general art

[hollow pelican]

Okay

[fast knot]

1.3 is crazy for only 100

[hollow pelican]

general art is a thread

[polar dagger]

Maybe 150-200

[glass cobalt]

big ben gives you 1.1 for 250 btw

[polar dagger]

True

[fast knot]

Yeah so 1.3 for less than that is whack

[polar dagger]

You can get the Saturn V after getting the Apollo research

For if

[hollow pelican]

but idc, I had a lot of logits, not pride or anything, but I think they need to crank those prices up

[polar dagger]

Godamm

[glass cobalt]

I mean I already hate when prices are up to anything over 100

I'm not getting top 25 or top 10 on events 😭

[hollow pelican]

Well, I kinda agree with you

[hollow pelican]

try to start your event later
maybe like 1 day after the event started

[polar dagger]

Or start when the event starts

[glass cobalt]

I feel like the actual simulation upgrades should be fairly affordable and should ALWAYS use the same price for each boost to the simulation as the price to boost on some of the augmentations is insane, the cosmetics is where you should really be able to spend those extras

[hollow pelican]

That's when you absolutely have 0 badges on that event

[polar dagger]

Ngl when atomic age II comes out, what research will we get

Can we buy I mean

Just saying, but how to get beta/alpha updates

In iOS

[amber canyon]

Beta - best ask in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/545344551095894028 . Although, as your game already shows you've cheated the Devs might not process your application (if that's needed).

Alpha - #💬-cells-chat message

[glass cobalt]

idlemaxxing

adcap wouldn't run tho 😔

[steady dune]

I know other 2

Although I playing 5 idle games in pace now

[glass cobalt]

ok so that's c2s obviously, cookie clicker, specifically the 5 dollar version on steam, revolution idle, and leaf blower revolution

[steady dune]

Only leaf I don't know,

Cookie heard not played and Revo

[prime vale]

is revolution idle like antimatter dimensions?

[steady dune]

Completed

[glass cobalt]

revo idle is weird, it starts out fairly normal but then the mechanics get more and more convoluted until you basically don't understand anything anymore

[steady dune]

It has no resets, and number... at least ^1T bigger

[rough axle]

nice emoji

[steady dune]

At end

[glass cobalt]

and it's just pensive too

I play a few idle games

[rough axle]

i only play cells

i used to play a lot of clicker heroes but thats fallen off

[glass cobalt]

listen most games I buy nowadays are idle and incremental lol

[rough axle]

i buy like onje game a year

because i dont actually have any electronic payment methods so i have to fess up to my mom about it

the thing that sucks is i have like 400usd in physical paper money so its not like im broke or anything

[glass cobalt]

uhhhh

also I've saved more with discounts than I've paid lol

[rough axle]

:emoji_one"

idk how to check spent

[candid tartan]

@rough axle

what did you say?

[rough axle]

higher research level

[candid tartan]

like how much higher

[rough axle]

uh i think the lowest is 28 and the highest is 74

[candid tartan]

its 16 already

[candid tartan]

holy

[azure crystal]

Guys you noticed that set in stone is like much harder than other events

[candid tartan]

any good way that i can rank up quickly

[hollow pelican]

Nope, the human body event is way more harder than any other events

[lone bronze]

is there any place I can post non-cells ary

art

[hollow pelican]

#993535727889563668

[lone bronze]

thanks

[hollow pelican]

that's for arts that are not cells related

#1475782841735315590 is for... well its on the name

[azure crystal]

Yeah, its pretty tuff too, but some of set in stone upgrades were like 2000 times more costly, than my 4x income +clicks in second, while in other events it was 1000 times diff max

[quasi ivy]

rocks event one hour in

[quasi ivy]

revo idle detected

[hollow pelican]

Wait, have I ever friend you?

[quasi ivy]

idk

[hollow pelican]

oh wait I haven't

what's your in game username again

[quasi ivy]

nanikirby

[hollow pelican]

Okay 👍

[quasi ivy]

whats urs?

[hollow pelican]

Ultra-violet

[quasi ivy]

ok done

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[glass cobalt]

I'm at easy trials rn kill me 💔

Every few weeks the masochist in me decides to play the game again for a few days

[rugged heart]

Im sorry but what

[warm lodge]

I got the same issue. Talked with some of the staff about it. They currently have no way to leave the beta leaderboards without restarting the entire game. So for now: live with it. And perhaps after some time check again if it is still on their agenda.

[blazing prism]

are we seeing the borders of the simulation?

[dry cairn]

I might switch over. The leaderboards dont have much purpose and it would be neat to test the new nanobots and others things.

[warm lodge]

Welcome to Hotel California

[strange arrow]

Hey guys how am I doing?

[rough axle]

pretty good

[solid marsh]

Better Than me

[slender patrol]

Why did some of my secret achievements disappear?

[rough axle]

they didnt

more were added

[slender patrol]

oh

okay

[dry cairn]

I can see how some might think that since they moved them around instead of adding the new ones to only the end.

[amber pasture]

Gm

[twin turtle]

can somebody do the math how much cheaper the upgrade is with one lvl of upgrade?

[sudden dome]

looks like 30% cheaper to me but im not sure what you mean

[twin turtle]

so one upgrade lvl reduces the price by 30%

[quasi ivy]

im at tarot.... be aware of runes

[rough axle]

I don’t think I’m finishing

[rough axle]

Uranus cost is 1.61E+21 * 1.15^level (in your case 2) / level of Oberon+1 / 2^level of cosmic gravity card

[latent kestrel]

Damn gang 😭😭

[quasi ivy]

lmao

also i see that custom nanobot icon how dare thee spoil beta

[swift heron]

My sun produces 2 E168 and its cards are 7/7/3/2/2

Im gonna need more silver cards (which is actually easier than getting the sun trait cards) and I'll try to also get the constellation for increasing celestial body speed by 1.5x

I only started grinding red dwarf stars on ep 29 because thats when i strated grinding constellations

[amber canyon]

Congrats on getting Coal without Coquina, Flint and Chalk ...

[swift heron]

The devs should make the last upgrade increase mineral speed by 2x NOT sedimentary rock speed by 2x
Because after the event ends all of those "black rocks" or whatever that currency is called become useless

[glass cobalt]

What...

[swift heron]

About 33% cheaper

[steady dune]

-# “minimum requirement to complete event”

Ok kill chat time

[clear zenith]

This event is so weird to me for that. Rocks don't buy any generators (including other rock-producing ones), and most of the upgrades they buy just boost themselves. There's no point in buying more of them once you reach crystals, with the exception of needing them to buy ||Natural Beauty|| at the end

[lone bronze]

not cosmic gravity

goldilocks zone is the one that reduces cost

[polar dagger]

What does the jester symbol mean?

[lament temple]

What is 'Jester' role? Why do I have it?

• 'Jester' is a role for trolls. Mainly for game cheaters, it also includes those who ignored rules in several channel descriptions.
• You may have this role because you did at least one of the following:
• 1. Cheat in the game.
• 2. Make a suggestion in #💡-suggestions by making a thread instead of using @noble star's /suggest command.
• 3. React to entries in #🏆-share-your-prestige after a moderator already did.
• 4. Send messages in #🎨-cells-art outside of a thread, unless your messages are considered an artwork entry.
• If you want the role removed from you, or you think there has been a mistake, please contact a moderator.

Frequently Asked Questions • Requested by Arch Dux, Paleontologist Legend

[quasi ivy]

be prepared for getting robbed of ur timeflux

[glass cobalt]

I already feel robbed of my time trying to grind out easy trials

[quasi ivy]

have u got attacks yet

[steady dune]

The reveal of Chomper runs

[glass cobalt]

Is that after easy trials?

[quasi ivy]

im not sure

[quasi ivy]

thats why im asking

[glass cobalt]

uh I don't think so

[quasi ivy]

lemme check how u get attacks

ok u get attacks at 15 trails completed

so u still got a while

[glass cobalt]

the zodiacs and planets are possibly the worst explained mechanics oat

[amber canyon]

It sorta makes sense to me that they've largely done their job once you get to coal.

[quasi ivy]

oh dw it gets worse and worse

[glass cobalt]

oh I'm expecting that

[twin turtle]

so the discount is getting smaller and smaller

[quasi ivy]

♥️

[glass cobalt]

revo is what happens when a game wants to have a unique mechanic (or 2 or 3) for each section of the game so it just gets more convoluted until it isn't fun anymore

[steady dune]

Mine is at 5e23x

[glass cobalt]

I want to murder whoever designed the dilation tree in cold blood

[hollow pelican]

the role or the emoji ?

[quasi ivy]

im getting there!!!

[quasi ivy]

dw eventually regrinding to unity will be nothing

instant even

[glass cobalt]

yeah but right now it's a pain

[steady dune]

.. and this e23 is at end game(

[quasi ivy]

have u got all achievements yey

yet*

[glass cobalt]

thank god they made double clicking on pc more consistent or I would lose my mind

[quasi ivy]

me on mobile and not knowing how to use macros

[glass cobalt]

I don't know how to use macros either

[lapis ibex]

What do you think the devs are going to do for the beyond after episode 30. Are they going to stop their or are they going to keep going.

[quasi ivy]

ok then i know what to work towards xd

[quasi ivy]

prob prestige levels like in meso but prob in a different way

[dry cairn]

They will add something eventually. I think its going to be a long time though.

[glacial pasture]

prestige only sounds real until ||like 2 million people have finished beyond or something, as in the ending trophy doesnt make that much sense anymore||

maybe

[dry cairn]

This game has significantly less than 2m active players.

[glacial pasture]

"i think its going to be a long time though"

maybe not 2m but like a significant amount for that reward to lose meaning

it's an idle game you just have to wait

[dry cairn]

It is neat that they track the number of accounts that have completed it and everyone gets to see that number.

[craggy token]

Guys best way to get darwinium?

[vital tinsel]

Buy it

[rough axle]

play lots of mesozoic valley

[rough axle]

that too

[vital tinsel]

By far the faster way 😆

[craggy token]

Tbh I don't get much darwinium from geodes

[swift heron]

And the problem is that the natural beauty upgrade buffs them even more even when they become obsolete

Every event has its final upgrade boost your production by alot except this one

[rough axle]

actually in most events the final node is x2

[clear zenith]

play even more Meso then

it adds up

[dry cairn]

Play on mobile instead of Steam. You get 2x darwinium there.

[craggy token]

How

[swift heron]

It still buffs your progression in a way

[dry cairn]

Watching a few ads

[amber canyon]

Update for confirmation purposes. I'll check the last of the chain just in case it declares it needs all the things.
||Andesite unlocks Diorite, Sandstone, Calcite.
Calcite unlocks METAMORPHIC ROCK.
METAMORPHIC ROCK unlocks Marble, Slate, Scoria.
Scoria unlocks Granite, Coqina, Shale.
Shale unlocks Schist, Gneiss, Fluorite [1].
Fluorite unlocks CRYSTAL.
CRYSTAL unlocks Amethyst.
Amethyst unlocks Chalk, Pegmatite, Jasper.
Jasper unlocks Flint, Fulgurite, Topaz [2].
Topaz unlocks Obsidian, Coal [3].
Coal unlocks Anthracite, Lapis Lazuli, Diamond [4].
Diamond unlocks GEM.
GEM unlocks Emerald, Aquamarine, Pyrite.
Pyrite unlocks Opal, Garnet, Lab Grown Diamonds.
Lab Grown Diamonds unlocks Sapphire, Ruby, Jade(?)||

||[1] After Shale bought Olivine, Feldspars, Tuff, Clay, Sandstone.
[2] After Topaz bought Coquina, Chalk, Flint.
[3] After Coal bought Fulgurite.
[4] After Lab Grown Diamonds bought Emerald, Aquamarine, Opal.

Remaining expected chain is Jade - Natural Beauty.||

[swift heron]

You have the option to double the darwinium from the darwiniym synthesizer on mobilw

[rough axle]

the first 5 events is x2, pollination is x6, deep sea is x1e7, tea music and body are x2, art is no effect, outbreaks cats rocks cryptids math is x2, ai is x101, cheese is x2

so 14 of 18 events end in a node thats x2 something

oh boy im so glad i made this spreadhseet

[amber canyon]

The last buff is slightly irrelevant anyway. It helps with a few extra science if you hang around before CL. But tbh ... 🤷

[fluid delta]

Eh, just eyeball stuff. I've never needed a spreadsheet for Events, this is not a complicated game 🙂

[clear zenith]

no but numbers can be interesting

[rough axle]

this took like 2 weeks or smth

[clear zenith]

but yeah whatever the last node does is irrelevant to me because I usually don't hang around long before going to the next CL

[rough axle]

and yes it is really 970 rows

[fluid delta]

I mean, if part of the fun for you is doing the spreadsheet, then have at it. I'm just saying that for those who don't want to mess with that, you don't have to. At all.

[craggy token]

Is there gonna be another simulation

[fluid delta]

Another sim in what sense?

[clear zenith]

Another exploration? Probably. Something like Meso or Beyond? Less likely but the devs have neither confirmed nor denied, technically.

[rough axle]

no

[dry cairn]

And they share their spreadsheets for those of us that dont want to make them but do find the info interesting. I appreciate that.

[rough axle]

if there is itll be years

[fluid delta]

I kinda do think they'll do a new category (by that, I mean in addition to Meso and Beyond) that'll be centered around the Periodic Table. I expect it before the end of this year. We'll see if I'm right.. in a year 🙂

[clear zenith]

I do remember them mentioning that

[dry cairn]

With both Meso and Beyond being done, and if its not new events coming, I am curious what they might be working on other than the main sim.

[craggy token]

I think it would be more of an exploration event

[clear zenith]

they specifically said in an AMA that that'd be interesting but bigger than an exploration, so...

sounds like foreshadowing to me

[fluid delta]

Nah. I mean, they could, but there's so much design space with the Periodic Table, and it's on theme for the game.

[rough axle]

<@&535129309648781332> kiull

[steady dune]

GG?

[clear zenith]

oh this is a "check my bio" scam

[steady dune]

And whos she

[fluid delta]

yep

[craggy token]

?

How does it work

[primal stump]

!ban 1111037988231725167 spam

[bright otter]

Banned xowomors (Case #4566) (user notified with a direct message)

[primal stump]

thanks

[hollow pelican]

Why does the link always lead to good girls

[clear zenith]

I've never joined the Discord servers myself to find out so couldn't tell ya, but there was a link to a server in their bio

[clear zenith]

because it's attractive or something ig

[hollow pelican]

I guess all scammers lead to good girls

[craggy token]

Every scammer is a g00nee

[fluid delta]

Nah, usually they would lead to some site that's got malware that then attempts to steal your stuff

[hollow pelican]

Check my bio scam bots are multiplying

miss the old 4 classic photos

[fluid delta]

I don't. We still get those all the damn time

[craggy token]

Can someone explain to me how empty sim method works

Like what happens after 14 days

[steady dune]

2 in one of my game server

[rough axle]

we cant even set up automod to block people from saying "check my bio" because theyre already smarter than that

[steady dune]

Yesterday

[azure turtle]

You join the server - you need to verify to access the "spicy" stuff - verification is using a well known mod bot - it is not actually a well known mod bot - it is actually an app made to look like it - it asks you to log into discord on a different page - it is not discord site

[clear zenith]

time chambers max out so you get way more profit once you start buying things

[craggy token]

Ty

[clear zenith]

good thing I've got aroace immunity to those scams :\

[hollow pelican]

You basically start a sim, then do nothing for 14 days (that's the max time for Metabit and Knowledge time chamber) that'll give you a start boosts after 14 days

[neat ore]

they really need to fix time chambers if the optimal strategy is to just wait for 2 weeks in an empty simulation

[clear zenith]

they're working on it

[fluid delta]

That might help, but mostly it's "not doing stupid things". I mean, the scams are very obvious.

[hollow pelican]

The previous one is 21 days

Also, why would they fix it? Empty sim are a bit OP

[neat ore]

because empty sims are extremely boring

[clear zenith]

fix as in make it so basically not playing isn't the best strat

time chambers in theory are good, but in practice they goofed a little

[fluid delta]

Sure, but at the same time, Events and grabbing the Beyond research keeps you active

[neat ore]

you still lose a 4th of the game

[solid marsh]

I think the best solution is a reality Engine upgrade that causes each generator and research to give large buffs to the time chambers

[fluid delta]

idk about "lose", but I get what you mean

[craggy token]

Yay

[hollow pelican]

it's up to you to do an empty sim or not tho

[craggy token]

Wth

[hollow pelican]

Boring but it gives a lot of boost

[neat ore]

its not up to me if i am literally forced to do so to progress

[fluid delta]

Well.. you aren't forced, but it is by far the best way to progress. Unfortunately.

I do think the time nodes are a design mistake, they never should have been in the game, but it does seem like they are here to stay.

[hollow pelican]

Wait, the achievement system works?

I can't seem to unlock even a single achievement from meso

@granite ginkgo please delete your chat in #🎨-cells-art

[polar viper]

what is the problem?

[clear zenith]

it's not in a thread

[polar viper]

ah the last one

idk why it scrolled up to a thread for me

[dry cairn]

We were obviously able to get to the extreme end game and finish the RE prior to Time Chambers existing.
They problem is that they might be pricing any new nodes they add with the assumption that people are doing empty sim.

[fluid delta]

That last node in RE is a definite tease. Even with empty sim, it's way out of reach

[neat ore]

note how scientific revo 2's nodes are 4-5 ooms apart

[dry cairn]

They balanced that one to 21 day empty sims as it would take 3-5 of those.
While it will take 5,000 of the 14 day empty sims.

[fluid delta]

One hopes they'll fix it then

[polar viper]

i doubt they did that considering they didnt even understand empty sim in the first place.

i think they just slapped some number there and the reason is

[hollow pelican]

Your question made me think, Sampe really got a point that chatting outside a thread is considered to be a disrespectful act towards the whole cells art community because that message “burried” the artwork and making people feel comfortable chatting there outside a thread

[dry cairn]

Agree. Its much more likely that they just didnt do the math and basically picked a random cost.

[polar viper]

i get the reason, but lets be honest. noone is reading the channel descriptions 😄
and since typing there is possible, people probably just type there without knowing the channel special rule.

[clear zenith]

Yeah, it's a real issue especially on mobile where you have to go looking for channel descriptions

[hollow pelican]

Yep, that's why reminding people to delete their chat is one of my purposes here

[cold pelican]

Hi

[hollow pelican]

Hello

[cold pelican]

I'm beta tester :)

[rough axle]

k

[cold pelican]

Ex-beta tester

[rough axle]

oh

then youre not a beta tester

[cold pelican]

It used to be because the beta was open

But now it's closed.

We'll have to wait for the next opening

[polar viper]

welcome back to the normies i guess

[cold pelican]

Hahaha yes

[polar viper]

wdym closed?

[cold pelican]

Funny banner

[polar viper]

https://discordapp.com/channels/488478892873744385/1200105190896975902

[rough axle]

beta hasnt been closed in at least 5 years

[cold pelican]

There's nothing new in the beta; it's the same as if it were literally closed.

[polar viper]

nothing new since 2 days maybe

https://discordapp.com/channels/488478892873744385/1200105238208708668

[rough axle]

incorrect!

im in beta right now and theres definitely new stuff

[cold pelican]

I thought they hadn't added it yet.

[cold pelican]

Ty

What I've missed out on, hahaha

[polar viper]

not much. stuff comes to live fast

[cold pelican]

Hopefully, this update will make nanobots less useless.

[cold pelican]

I've been inactive for about 2 or 3 weeks, that was because I've been very busy

Now I have time to catch up

I'm loving the update

[ocean trout]

Can Someone explain the Idea Discount?

Knowledge compressor, where is the Discount :3

the buying isn't mean because one Timeline needed 87 Udc for 10 Up to Next round after the compressor it need still the same

[static bay]

Is there any reason to not use my event-awarded Neutron Stars and Black Holes right away? Will I unlock more possible rare and epic cards if I wait?

[quasi ivy]

can u send the upgrade that fives the discount?

[lone bronze]

CRUSTACEANS

CRUSTACEANSCRUSTRACTSOWNADVRUSTAEACNS

[amber canyon]

Stats tab > Converter Upgrade. At the bottom.

[amber canyon]

According to the wiki - https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Galactic_Nursery#Advanced_Stars - reward by level.
No change in epics, rares or constellation fragments.
Increase Dark Matter and normal traits.

And obvs waiting until future levels might get you cards that you haven't unlocked.

[static bay]

The card unlocks is what I was wondering about, sorry if I worded it poorly lol I was wondering if I'd be able to gain cards for previously locked cards if I used them early or if I had to unlock the cards first.

So I have 2 Epics and 1 Rare that say "Complete Missions to Discover," so I assume I can't get card fragments for those ones?

[amber canyon]

I know that white and red dwarfs will give you normal trait cards if you have unlocked them on previous levels. Not sure about epics and rares.

If you haven't ever unlocked cards, afaik you're not going to get them from stars in Beyond.

[static bay]

Gotcha. Thanks! Gotta hoard them until I get those last 3 cards unlocked!

[clear zenith]

Well, if it's something you've never gotten cards for but it's something you can see, like these, you can definitely get them from stars. I have.

[amber canyon]

You would def know better than me 🙂

[clear zenith]

I would?

[amber canyon]

It's been a while for me ...

[clear zenith]

ah

but yeah, I've gotten the automate card for more than one generator before I got said generator to rank 1 for the first time

[amber canyon]

Game is trolling you 🫠

[clear zenith]

Though I've never experienced anything like in Meso where you can occasionally get cards for traits that aren't unlocked at all

[latent kestrel]

Guys can someone just refresh my memory and give me like a quick resume about the game, cause like, I didn't play this game for almost a year😭😭

Just a quick, simple one

[craggy token]

Beyond is completed

[latent kestrel]

Excuse me what??

[amber canyon]

Click, buy, numbers go up.

#📢-announcements message

[fluid delta]

"Make numbers go up"

[latent kestrel]

That's it😭😭

[fluid delta]

It really is!

[latent kestrel]

Same same? Nothing changed?

[amber canyon]

#📢-announcements message

[fluid delta]

Well, the details of how has evolved, but it's an idle game, at the core, it's "make numbers go up" and always will be

[latent kestrel]

Alright

[craggy token]

Am i getting déjà vu or logits werent the first currency from events

[rough axle]

logits were added when the third event (philosophy) came out. previously, events gave darwinium

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[frigid adder]

They should make it that every event prestige in this event increases the "health" of the stones in the garden

[frigid adder]

Sci Rev 2 & Ind Rev 2, Mollusks, Amphibians, & a revamp of the Reality Engine

Also, Meso update (kind of)

[latent kestrel]

now this is a simple resume of the game

updates

[twin turtle]

can somebody explain to me what is the teapot supposed to be? everything else are real manmade obejcts

[frigid adder]

It's a thought experiment, the description of it somes it up well

[tame oriole]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

Wikipedia

Russell's teapot

Russell's teapot is an analogy, formulated by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970), to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making empirically unfalsifiable claims, as opposed to shifting the burden of disproof to others.
Russell specifically applied his analogy in the context of religion. He wrote that if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot, too small to be seen by telescopes, orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, he could not expect anyone to believe him solely because his assertion could not be proven wrong.
The analogy has been criticised by philosophers Brian Garvey, Peter van Inwagen…

[rough axle]

@twin turtle

[distant jolt]

In the last rank of space simulation. What should be my main focus till I can afford this upgrade?

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sun-tarot-card-gif-6181533625764677496

[distant jolt]

But its max output is e167

[rough axle]

still your best generator

[eager osprey]

Or one that makes more

[distant jolt]

Nothing is better for now. I looked

[swift heron]

How come the sun is the best generator in e 30?

It was supposed to be the lowest generator before that upgrade

Did the upgrade buff it more than the others

[rough axle]

@swift heron

[swift heron]

Why do they get different boosts

[rough axle]

idk

cosmic geometry boosts the eariler generators more

complain to the devs if you wat

[swift heron]

Hell no theyll make flat universe 200 spqig instead of 20

[dry cairn]

They wanted to do something different for the final episode instead of following the same pattern as the other 29. It was fun.

[wind summit]

I think if they make it fast enough May but if they take thier time June

[clear zenith]

It seems like they've been putting out updates pretty quickly lately. In roughly the past month we've had e30, the egg hunt, and Ind Rev II

[wind summit]

yeah

[midnight acorn]

i feel like egg hunt is a very minor update

[wind summit]

but if they take thier time and make them like dieatled or sum then it could be june

[clear zenith]

that's fair but the other two are pretty sizeable

[wind summit]

but i still think its gonna be mid May or late may

[clear zenith]

I mean I guess it depends how the nanobot beta goes

[midnight acorn]

yea, i would assume crustaceans is coming out late may

based on the previous update days

[rough axle]

seems like common sense to me

play stuypid games win stupid prizes

[strange lark]

What even is this guy rambling about

No me

[clear zenith]

that's concerning

I wouldn't recommend uranium as a source of nourishment

[strange lark]

You cant be more than 15yo

[clear zenith]

makes sense