#π¬-cells-chat
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Play it on whichever device (or combination) works for you. It's not a race, and is largely a single player game.
yeah but events
well
explorations
it's largely not all
i mean honestly i dont really need logits
its the other stuff
that i need
like the stars and geodes
becuase my god beyond is unbelievably slow
If you dont want to play on the phone, you can still switch your save to a phone, watch ads to fill up your bonus for the next 72 hours, then switch your save back to pc.
its like they're trying to simulate an actual space mission with the beyond sim
No, Logits are considered to be one of the main currencies just like Darwiniums but you can buy augmentation that really helps your simulation because it gives you speed boost
I suggest not to prioritize the cosmetics because augmentations are way better
ive been buying augments yeah
but i have most of them already and the ones i do buy just
dont really do much i can notice
though id assume thats cuz im reaching a big fat wall in the game's progress anyway
You can but it's giving you a slight change that really helps... this game, even the slightest amount of boost can be crucial and you'll notice it when you progress more to the game
well my main sim is level 74 already
also did they mess up the value for this or is it actually supposed to be 1.1x
Then... if you're bored maybe focus on other simulations... like Beyonds and Mesozoic Valley (since you dislike the exploration event) or wait until the new update dropped that will bring more to the game like Reboot: Automation, IR2, ||Crustacean||, REDACTED, REDACTED, REDACTED, etc.
Not sure what you mean. It is what it is. There isn't a 'right' value.
well for the cost of logits it seems off
considering every other augment thats 150 is 1.3x
but like i guess it is wha tit is
It's just a devs trick so people buy it, thinking that 1.10 is better than 1.1, also they've been doing this like in the cat event where one of the nodes said "0% less efficient" and it's just another word for no boost/nothing

mm alright then
definitely saving that for last then
If I were the Devs, I wouldn't feel obliged for every augment that was the same price to have the same effect π€·.
Just buy the least that gives the most boost then
Also modules are pretty good
It does sound like you're not really enjoying the game π
(not everybody had to ofc)
i guess but its just feels like im hitting walls left and right and im mainly playing out of obligation
i might just get the shark and wait for a new update
If you're playing out of obligation, I'd def suggest considering taking a break and coming back in an update (or more) when you can rush a bunch of new stuff?
yeah thats what i did for reboot and that was fun
hm
i do also have beta access
maybe ill look at that
You know about https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/545344551095894028 right?
There does seem to be plenty in beta at the moment.
Also dont forgot that its an idle game. It not necessarily meant to be played activity much.
Although do be aware that beta versions can do weird stuff to your game. If a beta version is unbalanced for example.
Yes, the beta stuff looks really cool rn. If I had more free time I'd definitely be making myself a beta account
Last time I peeked into beta chat everybody seemed as happy as a bag of kittens with all the stuff.
On the side for 3+ day Explore Events, are the Division ID# randomized or are the a ranked group?
Although I think it's not gonna be long before leaks come again... π People are just hyped with new things for now
You are placed in a div with other players who started playing the event around the same time.
Maybe. But happy beta testers with new stuff are good. Gives them less time to obsess about non-beta stuff π
what do i even do atp
Good. For now
ive been waiting like a week to get the flat universe upgrade xd
Anyways I gotta sleep, did some nice wiki edits today 
idk if theres a way to do it quickly at all
oh so this is what rank 30 looks like
You found your best generator (||the Sun||) and upgraded everything you can?
i should be able to get it tomorrow though
yeah
is the sea bunny an augment just for easter
Just gonna be waiting then, keeping ad boosts up. And trying to get an extra x2 if you're near anything.
People complained about many Beyond episodes being too short so they made the final one take some time.
nuclear fusion
who is people because ive spent like 3 weeks on 18/19/ and now 20
is investing in mercury worth it?
No idea. You'd have to look at your production and the cards you have available.
It does definitely vary. There were some longer ones in the mix along the way.
I'd say so it gives me about 1/4 of what the sun gives
ew scientific notation
this is the first game where people actually use short notation
i luv my big numbers
scientific notataion is so much better π
it doesnt look nice
its just easier to read imo
i do wonder if anyone uses custom
Scientific doesn't look nice? What?
thats what im saying lmao
Custom looks better than normal
Id much rather see people saying that the final episode is taking them a while than saying it was too short.
there's a difference between "taking a while" and waiting a month without doing anything in the game while you wait for your money to stack
ok what is VV supposed to mean π
so close to being able to afford this
Absolutely.
Also thinking the words that must not be spoken.
yeah thats valid
But once you've finished E30, that's it. The End. π€·
well yeah
does mesozoic valley prestige ever get harder
or is it just tedium for the most part
Mentally
wont they implement some sort of prestige eventually?
gets easier lol
Easier.
i stopped doing it cause its genuinely so boring
10 times over
i use it when i need darwinium
yeah true
We're all right. It's easier. But harder. Cos it's easier. Lol.
I'm almost at prestige three and it's definitely taken much longer than the first prestige
because you dont like it?
Really? Are you conserving mutagen or oomph?
probably due to you not doing it as often, because the price doesnt increase and u can stack rare/epic cards
one day i randomly got 10M mutagen so ive never needed to worry about it
and these are my cards π¦
HOW
i think it was a beta bug i genuinely dont know
Brooooo
It's just because the motivation is gone lol
If you don't care about the last achievement, you don't need to save any mutagen.
If you do care, the more you have, the faster you'll get it.
so its just a matter of getting cards
200 gigantosaurus?
Took me like 2 weeks from Prestige 1 to Prestige 10. Im glad i rushed it. Otherwise i would sit on P5 for life 
Typically mutagen is the limiting factor, not cards.
it depends
you shouldnt spend it on cards which dont help you in the moment
i remeber i used to do that cus it looked nicer
Forgot to send this but it's pretty old
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And if you click fast enough or use an autoclicker, the coin hits the skybox
I was looking through some old stuff and found me a steam gift card so I bought it
Oooh. Enjoy your ad-free decadent luxury!
Did anybody ever work out how much the coin is weighted?
do u need an auigment for this coin
Yeah I started playing last night and was an interesting experience
Idk I got the infinity pass for the boosts
huh which bundle did you get
Infinity pass will get you to the end game quicker if you are playing actively.
Im usually an idle player, only logging in for a few minutes per day so havent used it.
Though I might when the next big update comes out for the Primary sim.
eh will it really
well im talking about the purchases that boost production
theres 3 i think
remember that time chambers exist
for entropy ideas and stardust
The one for Beyond feels unnecessary and overpriced. The other two are okay i guess.
yeah 20 dollars is a lot even with the 2 blackholes
idea accelerator is better but only on paper
Is it necessary to pay?
And remember that Beyond and Meso both end. Eventually you wont log into them much anymore.
im just asking cuz i care about efficiency
the meso one was removed
or i guess value per dollar
yeah its just the beyond one now
?
I mean I bought those idea and entropy Γ2 boost, idk about the beyond one since I'm finished
granted i would like a 2x boost for beyond but 2x in the grand scheme seems very small
oh well then no
while 1 day vs 7 days seems to be obvious, actually the most important important part of infinity pass is the free maxed out 4x boost, so its actually 3 days vs 10 days of it
At some point I'll likely get the cheaper two, to support the game (and when I want a temp IP) But I personally think the rewards are a bit meh.
if ur finished theres no real point
||beyond prestige?||?
so id say starter cpu is techincly better
is that a thing
beyond prestige is there in the roadmap since... uh idk
it isnt?
i dont think they ever confirmed beyond prestige
it is
i mean if its a thing then sure but rn its just there
they will
If you are going to buy one of them, id time it with the release of an update to the Primary sim when you will be playing more.
Just note my chat, you will have it
Many theories lead to the beyond prestige
i know
theories but no confirmation
the line coming of beyond E30
until we do have confirmation theres no real purpose unless u wanna give 20 dollars to the dev lol
I hope there'll be more Beyond. And the Devs have been inconsistent with prestige or not. If it happens, it happens.
if there was a prestige i dont think they wouldve made e29 and e30 so damn hard
Also... still waiting for the astronomy update
oh wow this shit is old
Whatever they do with Beyond, its not going to be anytime soon.
so like this isnt total confirmation
Idk. They might just want to keep us busy for a while.
But it doesn't mean it would never be added tho
2 years btw
cant even help myself with constelations atp
Just hear me, all I say is the truth unlike the jester update which y'all may have known
You said you skipped through stage 1 iirc? Doing beta?
Would be quicker to start a new game, lol.
no i skipped getting the generators using alpha
the old old alpha
from rr testing
thats all
and got up to curved universe when they took like 2 minutes to get on beta
I'm guessing that's what's caused your issue? At least in some way
why would it cause issues with my sirius
its just an issue with my epics being rank 2
and sirius cards being rank 6
I thought it was flat you were saying would take 2 years.
Anyway, you're the only person I know who has mentioned the alpha thing, and (one of) the only one who is saying 2 years. Is a guess, is all. Something unusual.
i mightve miscalculated something
beacause i was taking data from beyond spreadsheet
but curved universe will only take me like a month to get
i think there arent that many people complaining beacause most of them are stuck earlier on
I don't understand what 2 years you're talking about, e.g. #π¬-cells-chat message
month for curved universe 8 months for the next one, 16 months for the one before galaxy upgrade
but i mightve messed up
calculating
Ah, no idea. But those were quicker for me. Not longer.
yea maybe i messed my math up
And I think that's what most people who have completed it have found. I guess you'll find out.
the increase from cosmic scale is 5e21, but finite universe costs 4e22 more
thats how i got the 8x multiplier
π€·
guys I changed my profile picture
Congrats. What a nice discovery!
Nah i think after flat universe, stuff is easily farmable again via black holes aka events.
If you stuck at flat universe because newer player or not doing the 3x red dwarf research for a long time your only option is to begin farming and waiting months or pay for blue stars
events require a ton of cubes to get the black holes
without 4x boost top 10 is unreachable
Yeah but u can get the boost for free
id gladly take part in the current shroom event but school
Curved Universe was really quick compared to Flat Universe. There is nothing to complain about.
teachers gonna get invested into it fr
just play the right simulations at the right lesson
generation at Flat was 6E168 and goal was 2E175 ||Sun is the best generator, took me 9 days||
generation at Curved was 7E176 and goal was 1E182 ||Cosmic Microwaved Background is the best generator, took me half a day||
generation at Cosmic was 2E191 and goal was 5E196 ||Sirius & Van Maanen are the best generators, took me a day||
generation at Finite was 9E212 and goal was 2E219 ||Sirius & Van Maanen are the best generators, took me 6 days||
generation at Infinite was 5E243 and goal was 1E250 ||Sirius & Van Maanen are the best generators, took me 6 days||
generation at Cosmic is 3,5E294 and goal is 1E300 ||Mes87 is best generator, took me a day||
Now my production is xE296 and im chilling 
Difference in generation and goal is huge for these 3 objectives.
I have a fitting emoticon you would appreciate
but I don't have nitro 
Yeah, the pivot back to the solar system mattering has been such a lovely plot twist
guys do I have to draw to post in cells art or can I just take a picture from a game and post it?
I don't think there is a clear distinction on what is art and what is not. Photography, including in-game photo's can surely be art so you don't have to draw or paint anything. If you just want to post a screenshot, for example to illustrate your post then it is better to post here. But if the screenshot is the art, then I would post it in #π¨-cells-art
If it is AI or AI enhanced, #1475782841735315590 is the place.
But don't take my word for it. I posted things in the art channel several times that others considered out-of-place there. So it cam sometimes be a bit hard to make the right choice of where to post.
I post beyond photos from time to time in there (reason for my nick). No one seems to be complaining so it dont gotta be drawn
once you have geometry, Sun is the best producer (everything else combined is less than 2% prod).
But im only getting e168. Seems like e175 is over 2 months away... i must be missing something
Not really, it is what it is. If you are using full Γ4 boosts and Γ2 offline you are not missing anything and it would not last 2 months but less (depending on your actual income)
yah, i got lazy, and haven't been using boosts.
Even with x8 from those boosts, it's 18 days it looks like... sheesh
With 6E168 it took me 9days. π
people just spamming Blue star for those rare/epic cards maybe
No boost gang rise up!
You're the real heroes of the game!
the true free loaders, whee
observable universe without cards or constellation is still not the generator that takes the longest
artificial intelligence from the event takes 100 days once you start the event
I heard archdux say observable universe without cards or constellations was like 65 days or sm
Hello
Interesting.
is that bruno jupiter
yes
shadow islet*
yeah definitely one of, if not the quickest event
But alcohol being 90sx is too much
When you are barely at qa
I drink it every day at 1$ each
Aye, there are at least 10 upgrades between when you get it and when you should buy it
I think Poisonous Mushrooms is similar
man I love when I get so into empty sim that I forget to start the sim until almost 15 days in
The 21-day not looking so bad these days
oh I would absolutely do it if that was still an option
but I traded it for updates long ago
If they keep empty sim, they should at least change the TC hardcaps to softcaps
A strong DR that kicks in at their 'intended max' so that it's always better to do multiple runs
Without completely invalidating every second after the cap
woah ||the sun's no longer the center of the universe|| (ep25 Beyond spoilers)
as in a boost that lessens over time like exploration badge boosts the more you get? or am I misunderstanding
Exactly. DR stands for "diminishing returns", i.e. the more you get the less impact each increment has
gotcha
So if TCs currently scale exponentially, set the scaling to a lower exponent after a certain point, even down to linear if they want
Not that it's a huge deal anyway since there's no practical progress possible--say that five times fast--at the current endgame
Speaking of practical progress, I was a fool to think I might get CL3 this time
Even CL2 will take me 2d+
why does it take so long to finish e27
i have been on the final quests
for
3 DAYS
I got the 30d infinity pass and the starter cpu
11 Devs online...?
Anyone else missing the egg nr50 ?? Xd
Nice 
Many people before you π
Yea thought so xD
I wonder where it is.. probably somewhere where it's too obvious to be noticed
I recommend using search function in this discord.
High probability it is the one egg near ||sauropoda hidden in the tree||....
and I tried the volcano angle the whole time
But the zoom in and out doesn't really work from there
I had a $20 steam gift card so I used $20 worth lmao
Am too old for searching like that
I have all of the egg
Same
Every Martian generator has a price multiplier of 25%, except Human Expedition, which randomly has the default 15%
I reported this as a bug a while back but considering how itβs not fixed it might be intentional
Dont tell me i accidentally messed up and posted a beta change beacause according to this my scaling for factory/city is way off
Don't think so? I just got the achievement for having 500 Expeditions before the 500 achievement for the prior two generators and realized something was whack. I'd send screenshots but I stupidly tried to screenshot on mobile, which for some reason renders my whole phone unusable until a force restart
-# I should probably make a bug report for that
anywho here's what my non-beta Martian generators are looking like. I can buy those factories and re-screenshot if it'd be useful for your numbers
How do we tell them
I knew expeditions were whack
I was more shocked by the martian citys
This one is me
I'm a t.rex broππ
omg this is delightful (primary sim secret achievement spoiler)
what is the 14-day meta thing?
could someone explain
I assume you're referring to empty sim. If you've bought time chambers, starting a sim and not buying anything until the chambers max out will give you more profit than playing normally. This works exponentially better the more time chambers you have, with the last ones maxing out at 14 days
ok
6th day
total of 48
collected
+10
since yesterday (3
from Blue Star).
10
from BH/BS and 38 from RD/WD.
wait what
this is so dumb lol
the best way to play the game is to not play it at all for 2 weeks straight
mid-late game, it is
King of idle games 
If it makes you feel any better, it used to be 3 weeks
it doesnt really
does reality sim lvl 74 fall under that category by any chance
oh absolutely that's late game
the soft cap rn is level 79
decisions decisions, any advice? π€ (spoilers up to RL 51)
Id have to look up what each of them does as I have no idea π
My rule is to go from cheapest to most expensive
narwhal has the highest boost all of the 100 logit augments have the same 1.2x boost
really just pick whichever ones you think look nice
Oh, they are all the exact same thing
thats my logic for it
they're all just sim speed boosts, and everything has the same boost except the one that costs more. wasn't sure if any of them unlocked anything else that might make it more valuable
the same boost narwhal is 1.25x for 125
150 logit augments if u still have any are all 1.3x except for ||scallop|| which is spoilers for much later in the sim
I mean I can see all the ones I don't have unlocked. How much they boost by isn't much of a spoiler π€·ββοΈ
afaik, none of them unlock anything else when you get them.
this wasnt always the case
i assume they changed that with reboot update
i remember squid and capybara being priority because they unlocked new upgrades
I know ||money|| has a secret achievement but I've still got a bit to go for it
do you have cat and dog domestication btw
yep, I've got all the previous augments that aren't pictured
minus stuff from logit customizations I just haven't bought yet, I don't think so
it makes no sense for voids to get a 1.5x constellation but superstructure and universe get 2x
TEAM AQUA
on that note though, I did just rank up to 53 so actually I'm buying the coin
I miss being able to rank up.
The next update will get here eventually.
enable boost bro
pfft what is this
look at my darwinium π
this is pc
click on the ape a lot. do it. and get your daily rewards more often
i cant use ad bonuses
i getthe last shark tomorrow
sweet
a lot of the achievements are just clicking on random things
on that note I have a coin to click
dang
yeah yeah whatever
the achievements is for ||three heads in a row||, right? π
im too lazy to switch my account between my phone and computer
yeah
Iβm new to the game, any tips?
click the ape. a lot. unless ||you got the secret achievement already||
if you've unlocked it
gambling
Im pretty sure this is also like an inserted thing from another guys game or something i swear i remember one of the devs talking something about it???
I might be crazy
Okay
Spam click/tap (I hope they didn't patch it)
Yeah okay its this guy
i got that
but what about anything else
but fr: keep your research chips balanced and don't rush it
how and where can I see the possible roles I can get?
omg this is the best
yippee
mooooods
huh?
rooooleeee
lol they'll show up eventually
beyond taught us patience
The coin is outside now? I dont pay much attention do I
well, it's gonna hit the ceiling if it's under a roof lol
where'd it used to be? in the forge?
shall I wake up the mods with another art piece?
I can't even fathom where that would be now. The gardens have changed a lot
game looked so crack back then
it's so crusty lol
it's funny that they changed the entire garden but the coin can still double jump
UI design changes so fast
seems it only stops when it hits the top of the dome lol
why do we flip
this has officially beat the forge secret achievement for my favorite thing I've discovered in CtS today
Hello
I got 2500 purple crystals ima restart now ig
There's probably a smarter way to choose stuff but I just click what I can afford and go by that
this is real
UI giickles between
What I do while waiting on my role:
π
Bro is among us
my bad vro
s u s
||I thought the flatworms were supposed to be rainbow now...?|| logit secret achievement spoiler
W achievement
yeah but they're all still yellow :<
can't believe the shop icon was a misnomer
-# now I can't have my little gay flatworms π
mark my words, the last secret acvhievement I get will be ||the ghost dodos||
so pretty
unless the devs add more. they've been doing that frequently lately
aww man why can't my worms turn green
Xd
Lmao
annelids, nematodes, echinoderms and arthropods are the only common phyla that is not represented in the tech tree yet (I think arthropods are going to be represented based on the sneakpeek given)
I think they're going to group annelid and nematodes as worms(trophy), even tho they evolve from different lineages
similar to how they put elephants in the ungulates even tho elephants are not "true ungulates"
I mean, Meso recognizes convergent evolution, so maybe, maybe not
And I didn't even think about that π
But yeah, elephants definitely don't have hooves
I don't think meso is very accurate tho because in the meso tree, it shows that Mosas "evolved" from Ichthyos
Is there a way to speed things up to reach flat universe?
its most likely just a connection thing
not entirely based off of exact evolutions
Still no role
what division
How do I see that?
click on the leaderboard
Oh 171
damn
Is that good or bad?
Oh lol
I only started playing this game yesterday so they probably wouldn't group me up with others
well im not good at the game either
I do love my pfp in this game tho
thats not how it works
I got a rat sandwich
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Depends
Divisions with lower number tend to be more competitive
I see
bc the sweats play instantly
If you start an event early you're getting placed in low number divs
Idk if getting all 9 quests done is worth it or not but ima try already at 5/9
Alright bet
rate my profile gngalang
i have this feeling that you dont play events that much
yesπ
thatβs pretty good for a brand new person
Glad the game is still drawing in new people. Thats good to see.
is ok
Ngl steam just recommended me it and I regret nothing
This game happily stole my soul
fr, i rember watching a yt video bout it in like 2020 and downloading it immediately
okay but that's a cool number
cooler than my 8,713
son im 97952 π
You have months-years of content ahead of you. Enjoy it.
A newer player sharing their rank does give us info. The leaderboard resets each month.
Which means over 222,222 people have logged into the game since April 1st.
bro is scaring away the newcomers
even more than that. my alt at research lvl 4 is at 256,133
gyaat dammmm
lotta people
Yeah lol
Thanks
it's nuts that there are over a quarter million active players
itβs so boring broπ
Ik π
But dinos
oh you have no idea
oh, I loved Meso too...until ||nah I won't spoil it hehe||
fr
once u complete it there is NOTHING to do
after first prestige
itβs so boring
b- but
@mellow carbon my rough math estimate says it would take a year to get from 79 to 80.
So its all pointless and I should just save the electricity. π
completion
I just love unlocking all the new things when I unlocked ape I was very happy
Ape still my favorite so far
-# egg hunt was cool though
wait until u get to mars
yeah i liked it
-# did you get the secret achievement involving the ape?
Egg hunt made me very annoyed lmao spent like an hour looking for one egg cuz I didnt know I could zoom out

but the final egg
Dab
sweet
sonion
well you succeeded
and there are many other secret achievements related to "petting" other things in the gardens
don't know if you can get any more yet tho, lol
I hadn't logged into Meso for years. The game tricked me and I did it for the egg achievement.
Everyone: Please update meso!!!
Devs: k fine
still waiting on my Archie dating sim...
bro really wants it
Well untill I got stuck
Ill take a new Sim over an update to Meso
oh look it's meee five years ago 
Egg???
egg.
EG
this is factual
still waiting on Jester Update...
I really need a sad nod emoji for times like this
ah yes this will suffice
Where can I possibly find details about the history of Beyond development...
I didnβt even do it though π
dam
The earliest message in #π-dev-diary mentions developing Beyond
Everything I'm reading suggests to spend all Darwinium on Diamond geodes at lvl 50 of the valley and nothing else. Is that still accurate today and for my current progression?
Interesting π€
Yeah essentially anything in the dev diary channel before the beyond came out
I'll note this
I don't think so. I wouldn't spend any darwinium on beyond. You can get geodes by ranking high in events. Mesozoic hasn't changed in years, so it's not clear spending anything there helps.
That said, if you have tons of money and want to support the devs, please do that.
seemed like they used to message there decently often. what happened?
π€
This never happened
Like
At all
I mean he is in the Roblox game but I think thatβs a completely different model
yeah I assume he's a little more Roblox-shaped
is 30 the last episode of beyond they will release?
Yes, very likely
probably
You can import models iirc, but idk
I wouldnt buy buy 6 of them.
If you're looking to speed up Meso, one or two is probably enough.
Unless you already have everything darwinium can buy in the Primary sim.
Beyonds beginning has voice acting now?
I have an account for the wiki for objects and just unlocked beyond
I swear it didn't before?
At least the intro cutscene with the flames
Well, more like 43h with perfect play but no nanobots/autoclicker. A little less if I rushed Cordyceps ASAP.
im scared
what do these numbers mean
I thought it was fairly clear π€
It's the plan for completing the current Fungi event with 65% badge boost
Time is the time it would take to achieve that step (starting from buying the first Fungi)
Upgrade is the upgrade purchased at that time (or the objective achieved)
Fungi to Mind-Altering Fungi is the number of that generator to purchase before the next step
I just bought Human Illness, so my next goal is to get to 40 Unwelcome Fungi. After that I wait to get Alcohol, which should take about an hour and a half
I'm on the quest to unlock 20 unwelcome fungi atm
does the sheet account for clicking
Moved from top 50 to now being #24
I started pretty close to the event start, so it's been about 40h but the plan predicts 31h to get here so I'm about 9h behind schedule
oh
Nope: not manual, not autoclicker, not nanobots. Nor offline, or time skip, or ad boost. Just the raw idle production with the game open
So realistically one would outpace the plan playing actively, but fall behind when sleeping AFK
Ad boost is of course the biggest influence, but to account for that you'd just include it with the badge boost
so then what does that say abt you if youre 9 hours behind π
Im intrigued. I think when I start the event, Ill play like I normally do and ocassionally glance at your numbers to compare. Curious if it will be similar or way off.
Well, 40/31 = 1.29 so I'm taking about 30% longerthan planned
Means I should finish before the event ends
Unfortunately this plan also doesn't account for me being AFK most of tomorrow either π
Probably way off since you surely have more boost π
i mean you arent far from finishing
I can run the script with your params if you let me know (badge boost, average ad boost)
It slows down as you go; here's the graph of the plan for 0% boost
That said, I'm about 11h out. Even if I'm afk all day tomorrow and get 0 production--which I won't, I'll still get offline compensation at worst--I'd still have 10 or 11 hours the day after to finish
@fallen sand ad boost is the usual 4x. Badge boost is.... 358%
damn this is cool
son i have 105%
I remember when there were only 3 different events.
I need to retire π
Petition to actually title those graphs so I know what they're about without having to find context
To all optimizers
Because I seek information
:p
i mean the axes have labels
'Objectives Completed' and 'Time Taken' won't tell you what exploration is it about
James Webb, Fungi, Philosophy were the only 3 for a while.
Then then went crazy making a bunch and there were suddenly 18.
Insane
Still not bothered to touch those explorations π... someone has to motivate me
Pretend that says explorations
I somehow has never played The Power of Images. Not a single time
if theres no clicking, how will you get the first upgrade?
I've never gotten several badges... Maybe I have to get them for real
I've thought like this for like 5 times and still haven't gotten them
I think I mentioned it earlier but the 'start' for these is getting the first generator
oh
They also don't account for golden clickables, now that I think about it
Appreciate it. Thats neat to see
you should at least finish each event once for the badges
"No Boosters, Nanobots and Clicking" should be sufficient but that's fire
But yeah, at higher CLs the bootstrap time to get that first generator can be gnarly. Hundreds or even thousands of clicks to pay for the first upgrade + generator before you have any passive income
So the number of generators are the same because that part is about efficiency. The change is the time
Yeah... Again I have to be motivated. Many explorations I tend to be like that... complete it once and never touch it again
the motivation is the badges idk
That's probably correct, but I never actually proved it.
The algorithm is just a greedy efficiency:
cost/increase + cost/current rate
I.e. how many seconds from "now" will the purchase have made back its expense, including the time waiting to get the currency to purchase it in the first place
Just looking at the development of the wiki already feels like playing the game for me β€οΈ /nsrs
I know that pain all too well
I mean, the badges and all stuffs are there...
Wait lemme check what badges am I missing
is this in the wiki?
if not it should be
Formulae in the wiki should be official btw
I don't think so? It's just the algo I'm using. There are others, and each have their benefits and use cases
I'd even say must
I dare bet that the generator cost formula is incorrect
In the wiki
Someone has to look into that
For example, this one only looks at the current snapshot (what you have "right now") and only evaluates the next purchase
It doesn't account well for multiple smaller purchases that may outpace a bigger one
And it definitely doesn't account for a 'bad' purchase that unlocks a 'great' purchase, which would necessitate combining the two for actual comparisons
Human body last badge (not surprising)
Art all badges
Rocks last badge (???)
Cheese two last badges (yeah I don't like cheese idec playing it)
Those two points alone are why it's basically impossible to prove a strict optimal pathing, and why it must be solved analytically (i.e. brute-force)
Those are all terrible events; you have nothing to regret
i hate human body
Now, if someone were to write a 'guide' page, then you could put something like that greedy-algo on there, since it's clear that it's an opinion article moreso than factual
damn thats old
-# Someone remind me when those explorations come /nsrs
My playstyle is to eyeball a rough estimate if a generator would recoup a purchase in say 10 seconds or 100 seconds, or 1000 seconds.
But yes, that too is a heuristic for evaluating efficiency
'vibes' is a completely legitimate playstyle
And the faster you go, the better it is to make a sub-optimal purchase quickly than waste time calculating
Time to start Fungi. Ah yes, the exploration I have most badges
bro i js buy gens whenever i feel like it π
def not optimal
human body...
I found out what event was coming next
calm before the storm ahh
You want any others while I've got the data here?
I didn't spruce up the output function so I did the ETL manually. Don't feel like redoing the work so once I close this doc it'll be lost to you
Gah. I'm outside. I don't know what is needed in the wiki
I have to list them. Wiki is missing lots of formulae that should actually be there
π€·ββοΈ Here's the script if you want to do it yourself
Theres nothing to do in the other 3 sims currently, so if im at least a little bit efficient with the event, I barely have to touch the game and its nice to take a break until new content arrives.
I don't think it's possible to finish this event in time for me but I'll try
I think I started too late
20 unwelcome fungi
yea you can finish in time
I'm just waiting to unlock fungi of the forest lmao π π
I'm assuming that's farther than I am
my thought exactly lol. not asking you to do this, but I'd be curious to see what this would look like for each event
Oh nope that's a bit behind
Anyone else seen a jester here?
Yes, we did have a lot of Jester here... well good to see you Jesterians
Ultraviolet has been awaken
The time when I opened discord is the exact time this jester chat
what is jester
Jester in this server is a peculiar figure.... a symbol of broken rule or 0 attitude
The Jester Theme
I'm missing 1 egg from the jurassic world thing, any idea where it could be?
Like I genuinely looked everywhere
o
Thank you
Got it, you're a legend
Anyone knows how to get new roles?
I just need to send a screenshot of my game? I already have everything the game has to offer at the moment
Yes
Specifically in #π-share-your-prestige
Based on my progress
Beyond progress meso progress singularity time and secret achievements
potential text wall alert
I'll probably continue as I do the events, but multi-currency is harder so I may skip those
@rough axle go to #π-share-your-prestige
Jester
??58 days of limited time offer
dang I almost didn't catch that
Its a problem to have that much time?
That looks debatable
yes
It doesn't seem to be 4 digits, but 3 alone is enough for evidence
2 even, I'd say
I think I know why, yesterday I used my save file to play in a alpha version of the game
yeah, that's generally a bad idea because it can mess things up if you transfer an alpha file into a beta or public version of the game
I was playing in beta before then I used the save to play alpha 39.44
Anyone here
Nah
Oof
This fungi event might take me a bit stuck on 8/9 lol
I am determined to finish now I'm so close
@clear zenith @forest anchor @hollow pelican just to clarify:
ππ»
As I said, I played the alpha version 39.44 yesterday
Ok
And I dont have 1 million days of playtime lol
Money
Midas has accidentally touched the ground
Also this reminds of one of Kurzgesagt vid
Isee
Rn advancing very good
The stall have been moved
And now progress of megabits and knowledge are flowing
On what level have you been stuck?
56
It few levels ago, I was been pretty stuck at them
Then after few days, finally got into that level and bought needed upgrades
I waited 14days at that level for Time chambers to charge up
Damn
It boosted me to level 59 
I'm thinking looking at my alpha alerts status... Damn, I'm old
And how far this game has advanced
I still remember flat sea critters
no idea what are those
That was last thursday. Now I am lvl 69 
Nice
Do we know when the industrial update is publicy releasing?
Soonβ’
Next announced update.
Oh I see
Active play in exploration events with βΎοΈ pass is Top25 guaranteed even with no badges to give you boost from the beginning π
I'm #23

Just trying to figure out where this cordyceps is
I refuse to go sleep untill I collect it even though I work in the morning
Just don't join the events early cause they are very competitive. I tend to join when it is around 2days left.
No idea. I am about to unlock unwelcomed fungi (#14 at the moment)
Big help in events are nanobots. Try to work towards it in Primary. They are located on the right side from Reality Engine (you have to purchase tIne flux node).
I'll look into that later
Going sleep and waking up is guaranteed quest completion π. Don't forget to level up all generators to their max potential before goind to 'next level ' π
???
What's that
I didn't know there was a max
What I've done so far
I'm gonna wait till 2-1 days left
There's 1d 14h
oh wait
Lol
If I complete this fungi event it will be the first exploration my boost surpasses 200%
let me see if I'll get more than 10000 RP again
Nice work, so what I should focus for more production?
It is not max per say but at some point currency generation become so slow that you can't afford to get any new generators easily.
I spotted that my focus on knowledge is on ancient multipliers
Now I'm aiming at whatever this hexagon aiming at
To be honest just go into limbo for 14days doing the empty sim strategy, cash in, convert earned
/
into meaningful nodes (reality amplifier) and cash in again for huge level gain.
Yeah, isee that
I'll better focus on mezozoic and beyond then
And event
I'll just check if there's upgrade to buy and etc but not these for metabits and knowledge
Reality amplifier is a must. Thats a beast.
are any of these good? or am i better off just waiting for sim speed upgrades?
And that's what I'm curious about
Wait, is there automation upgrade already?
If yes, I'm curious where to get it
To be introduced. Not yet there.
So basically, that thing helps you with automization of produce and buying stuff?
Guys do you like when Cell to singularity after a good night just wastes your 4x bonus time but doesnt give ANY rewards on ANY realm
I LOVE it
u didn't upgrade anything in a while i guess
Beta testers know better. It should make easier for you after restarting a simulation.
lovely
That's good, I guess It'll require to be bought in upgrade station?
Status just tracks how long it was when you made your last purchase of new node or generator.
π€·ββοΈ I'm not in beta and I'm not reading beta chat.
@fathom stirrup maybe u know?
Been grinding those researches
I got 1 left now
Oh I see then yeah idle cuz I saving up
With your metabit production you'll be grinding that funnel for a loooong time so just spend it on those three small upgrades
I unlocked the final button of the event just gotta save up for it now
alr
You can guess it by its name
There is no way I can speed up to reach flat universe, I guess possible to reach it in month xD
Guys how long does it take to reach Beyond E30?
Less than a week per episode, so 29 weeks with a moderate playstyle. You can get there faster if you play/boost more, or slower if you skip more.
Im in E11 so should take about 18 weeks or like 5 months
Roughly. Depends on how fast you play.
does the empty sim strategy or whatever you call it still works?
wah. are they already in round 3?
Idk I'm in top 10 but only beginning of round 2
We in different divisions tho
You are still awake?! 
I was going to sleep but then I hit top 10 all the sudden

division 83 is old, players with badge boosts will be at CL3 at minimum π
i guess i was lucky with timing when i pressed the join
Fun Fact (ok not fun): Hitting top 10 does NOT mean you shouldn't go to sleep /nsrs
I work in a couple hours
Will be fine
not lucky really - it means you are more likely to have those, who are referred as sweats with you and is harder to place high
wait for some time and join later
Probably approaching 4. Division 258 probably needs CL2 to be top 10 already (I'm most of the way through CL2 and only #3). Top friends that start earlier at at 8k/15k
I am Div248, currently in 9th position with 7/9 requirements in CL1 
im curious, is it much better to leave the game on, or off and then claim bonus 2x offline bonus?
You are grinding a lot 3242
π

Addictions
That #11 keeps knocking me down but I instantly get back up lol
for normal playstyle it is better to be offline than online - but autoclicker people would probably tell you otherwise
autoclicker wins i believe, but is that allowed?
it is not considered cheating, it is allowed
the auto clicking part is only used for the asteroid 30x tap bonus thingy only
unless we are talking about full macros and stuff
nothing really noteworthy to try hard and go that far tho lol
how many taps do you record for Shooting star with autoclicker?
oh ok
the best i got on my phone was like 500 taps
I was also curious how much it can get
here, not even 200 lol
i thought something was messing with my macro, it sometimes auto stops when i set my speed to like 2x and above
I have 1262 on mobile 
yea my phone is kinda outdated too
are you the guy whose phone is crushing every 30min?:
i dont even play the game that long
so like when playing this game, do i need to play all 3?
primary, mesozoic and beyond?
@rough axle https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uHYbVbUQzFdLbNi0fz3C-WcDOzMQjeoq7SuqDhYKt2A/edit?gid=799914847#gid=799914847, Episodes, Nickname of E29 is incorrect
Meso and Beyond have their "ends". When their ends are reached you want to use them as
farm.
Why is 30th of the beyond is taking so longggg
i am prestige 1 lvl 20 on meso and 18 on beyond
long jounrey ahead 

yup
You Fooled the Entire Cells Community! Don't do this Next Year!
@hollow pelican
7/11 CL2 pos:19 :π
Still no role 
are there any up to date guides on how to play efficiently? im checking pinned and like the ones there are from 4 years ago. prestige, is that the reset one?
why is the event gone?
Prestige is in Meso when you reach ||level 50 and complete it||.
did you restart main simulation
@quasi ivy gg
its my internet nevermind
gg
They should give you the role for that 
i see, im halfway there i guess but might take a like 3-5 more days
NOO
what do you consider as "halfway there"?
the level?
haha
i think i was at 30 something
the asteroid thingy right
i know, you'll say something like its get way slower the more i climb. thats why im trying to find any guides out here
so im at 30 on primary, 35 on meso and 11 on beyond
is this "balanced"?
yes
Meso will take you longer than 3-5 days to reach lvl 50
@quasi ivy how long does fungi take
cuz im thinking of waiting until tomorrow with starting
it is quite quick
oh... is the play for these events like join the last minute batch?
if u want a high spot without having to get high challenge levels yes
what are these "science" points for even used btw?
I would not recommended it if you don't have any badges from already playing that exact event or if you are not playing with ads.
theyre used just for ranking
see this meme
i see
yeah im able to clear the event with no badges for like 1 day maybe?
ill try it out on the next ones
grrr
some events are harder than orders
so I always ask ppl
but u can also decide to not bother and just start early, finishing the event to get the badges
and worry about competing in the future
some of these events ARE longer and some of them are shorter - once I almost haven't get my last badge (got it 24s before event ended) when I started 1,5d before it was ending
very next event is known for its difficulty - there is a nice graph of it
I start late enough to where I can always get top 25 by just finishing the normal version event
i see yeah thats what im kinda planning to do. ill try to maybe start when its like 2 days left
do i just follow the ones with the diamonds or grind and try to get everything on top first???
pick what u think is most effective

