💬-cells-chat

[brazen junco]

Yeah i know what you mean let me just look it up rq

[fading prairie]

wanna see my cells acc?

i can join call i think

you could also show urs

[brazen junco]

It's late

I wanna sleep in a bit

[fading prairie]

for me its still

like

19:00

[brazen junco]

You mean this

[fading prairie]

wow

wth is that green thing

[brazen junco]

That's on my old phone which didn't get any game updates in like a year

[brazen junco]

Metabites

[fading prairie]

oh

do u know y it got removed?

[brazen junco]

Old reboot currency

[brazen junco]

Reworked

For the reality reboot

[fading prairie]

i mean superhuman

[brazen junco]

Idk my best guess is that it didn't fit properly anymore

[fading prairie]

oh

ok

[quaint phoenix]

guys, you think the infinity pass is worth it?

[fluid delta]

that's up to you and what the money means to you

.. and how much you hate ads

[quaint phoenix]

Pc doesn't have ads

And I have ads very much sir

[fluid delta]

Yes, but maybe you have a phone or tablet that you use for Cells only to get the 4x ad boost, but otherwise play on PC. Either way, you know the things that cost 2 DW in the game.. so, is it worth the price of Infinity Pass to get those 2 DW things for "free".. only you can answer that

[polar viper]

Technically IP has most value if you are kinda new.
It boosts meso, beyond, exploration Events and primary sim.
Once you are done with meso, beyond and far into primary sim IP looses value.

And once u have a lot of badges its not really needed in events too expect for top places which u dont need because all other sims are done anyways

[gloomy jacinth]

I did one or two pass when I got back to the game before reality update, it was nice to unlock and discover new things without ads, now I almost never watch ads when I have only my phone on
Or just a few..
If I need to do many ads to get x4 bonuses, I usually do it while watching youtube or playing a game on tv..

Is it a steam policy, no ads on the pc version, or just a choice made by devs?

[polar viper]

Steam

Should be the Standard tbh

Mobile games world is just cancer sadly

[gray tapir]

Ok.

[polar viper]

Fuck ads. Make the game cost like 10 bucks and no microtransaction garbage.

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling-old-man-news-the-simpsons-gif-5498361754025948763

[mellow carbon]

Steam convinced people to mostly pay for games with occasionally loot-box style pay, but the monetization is spread across the player base.
Mobile everyone wanted their games to be free, so they monetize across ads (free to play players) or real money from microtransactions (dolphins and whales).

[quaint wharf]

what does automation do?

holy shit

peak update

[gloomy jacinth]

I think now mobile games ads in mobile game are the worst

All that games that could have a nice gameplay, but will never be like the ad

I still need to dig if someone made a list of real gameplay as we see in ads, with at least only a few graphical enhancements

And if they don't exist we should find a team to make them happen
And if they need to put ads just try to stay with ones not really needed, when you specifically know how it will happen, and not cutting you from gameplay suddenly in middle on something interesting

And the game could exist as they made a short "demo" that you can play in the ad... But then it's maybe 1% of the game
Or you just become addicted to totally other gameplay, competing with people injecting thousands of money in the game

[fading prairie]

guys i just got tetrapod

[white egret]

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[azure turtle]

!ban 551079511689527297 crypto scam

[bright otter]

Banned some_hockey_loving_hoser (Case #4292) (user notified with a direct message)

[white egret]

damn they got an account that had nitro, rip that guys card

[azure turtle]

Thanks

[final spindle]

does anyone have tips for reality engine? the guide in #🎭-semblance doesnt work for me

[warm lodge]

Depends a lot on where you are. Usually take the time chambers and time crystals first if you can buy them. Don't spend too much on the 100 part upgrades unless they are cheap. Usually the one step upgrades are better. Semblance will make suggestions by showing a gem near the recommended node but sometimes those are either not the best or just too far out (expensive). Then it is better to get some other upgrades and get the expensive one your next run.

[scarlet meteor]

what should be my first 100 logit purchase between the ISS and the Meso Valley one

[forest anchor]

I'd say ISS

But it pretty much depends on your progress in Meso and Beyond

[scarlet meteor]

29 Meso and 10 Beyond atm

[forest anchor]

What does ISS boost?

[scarlet meteor]

just the moon so i guess im going with meso

[forest anchor]

Oh yea then Meso is better

[scarlet meteor]

i honestly thought it was all the Moon but guess not

[steel tinsel]

Wow

[gloomy bone]

What did I miss

[crimson needle]

Hey everyone. I just started playing a few nights ago. Having a fantastic time!

However I just found out this game has promo codes. But all the lists I find on Google & Steam are out of date.

Does anyone have an updated list of codes?

Thanks, and happy to be here!

[gloomy bone]

Tried #🎭-semblance ?

[warm lodge]

Here are some: https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Codes

[crimson needle]

Thank you! All of those worked perfectly.

One last question... What do these rewards do?

I know the gold +s are for cosmetics

[desert flax]

they're given to you after the event eds and which rank block you're in

[crimson needle]

I understand how to earn them. I don't know what they do. Outside of the item on the far right.

[desert flax]

if the event ended, and you're the top 25, youll get a yellow star, gold rock, black thingannd blue thing

the star and rock are used in Beyond and Meso respectively

the black thing is dark matter, which lets you upgrade your cards gotten from the yellow star

and the blue thing is mutagen, which lets you upgrade your cards gotten from the gold rock

dark matter is Beyond and mutagen is Meso

[crimson needle]

Ok... They're resources for the other simulations

[desert flax]

yeah

[crimson needle]

Awesome. 😀

Do old events ever return? Just wondering for badge collecting.

[forest anchor]

Yes

[crimson needle]

Oh my.... I think i might have found my new live service addiction

[inner maple]

You can also get badges multiple times.

[crimson needle]

Oh... Give people a reason to reply the event.

I'm just happy that I'll be able to fill out the collection over time.

Means i've got some work to do in mushroom land over the next 35 hours. 😀

It looks like "The Beyond" came out over 4 years ago. Are their other side simulations after the Beyond?

[inner maple]

I’m not sure.

It would be cool to see another food related event. Like one about our good friends, fruits and vegetables.

We practically made them man’s best food friend, along with all the other crops we domesticated…

[crimson needle]

The evolution of plant life would be very cool.

[inner maple]

Agreed. It’s so diverse.

I’d love to see that added to the main simulator. We could have flowers, trees, algae, moss, etc.

Plants are responsible for keeping us alive, after all.

[crimson needle]

I was just looking at the devs official YouTube, and it looks like every update over the last 3+ years have all been about space.

[desert flax]

they have minor updates here and there, like Amphibian and Mollusk

[crimson needle]

Gotcha. It definitely seems like most of their time has been going to making new episodes of The Beyond.

So i'm guessing once you open up the Beyond you kind of stop working on the main simulation?

[desert flax]

the side sims are for only when progress on main gets slow

and explore events too

[crimson needle]

Isn't The Beyond a "side sim"

The Earth is marked as the primary. But it seems to just be more or less the "early game" and is the first sim to run out of content.

[crimson needle]

It looks like the "primary simulation" ends at Mars.

[pliant dagger]

what is the consensus on the best modu;e upgrade between Lamda and Mu, or is one of the cheaper ones even better?

[mellow carbon]

I work on whichever simulation I have stuff left to do in. So when new Beyond episodes come out I do those, when new Primary content comes out I do that. If new Dinosaurs ever came out I'd do that. I play all of the Events.

[mellow carbon]

Depends on which ones you already have. In general ones that improve metabit/knowledge > everything else since 1.2x knowledge gets you more knowledge then 2x ideas . Then scale by the cost.

[pliant dagger]

Oh you don't only pick one to be active at a time? I only have alpha

[hollow pelican]

because that's what the next planet humanity will take over

[viral crest]

hmmm still haven't gotten my infinity pass.

[mellow carbon]

Nope. They're all active all the time.

[pliant dagger]

Oh shit! Well that changes things. Thank you

[dull pecan]

Do you guys receive notifications in-game on android?

[forest anchor]

I do

Wait in-game?

[white egret]

by in game do you mean the news?

[hollow pelican]

in the past I got notification like "Your Entropy is pilling up" but now it's only exploration event

and the regular news

if you mean in game

[dull pecan]

Anything except events but they also come very low these days dont know why

[mellow carbon]

I don't get in-game notifications, but if I ever did I would have turned them off.

[dull pecan]

Any particular reason?

[mellow carbon]

I don't like notifications from game.s

[amber canyon]

Check the pins. There's a post from me with advice on how to do events efficiently if you want.

[formal stirrup]

in addition to that, it would also be pretty cool if culture was integrated into that as well. foods from different regions

[crimson needle]

@amber canyon Clicker / Idel games are some of my favorites. So I was already using that kind of strategy for maximizing the first day of the event.

It helped that this being my first event, ment that I'm also in the early game in general. So keeping boosts up, always 2X on log-in and check-in every hour or two was already my play style for getting the fastest early game progression when I unlocked events. 😀

[amber canyon]

Well of you like idle clicker games, I hope.you'll love this one. There's quite a few of us here who are addicted 😁.

[formal stirrup]

can confirm. it is quite addicting lol

[crimson needle]

Oh ya! I'm 24 hours in and can already tell this game is going to be a problem lol

[formal stirrup]

hope you continue enjoying the game!! it’s great

woah 24 hours in

[amber canyon]

A proper newbie!

You have a lot of stuff to explore and discover slightly jealous

[crimson needle]

Yep 24hr in. Still FTP for now. Account is almost level 6. Working on unlocking Fitrst Idea and Turtles. And i almost have my 2nd badge in the event.

[formal stirrup]

honestly this game is super ftp friendly. i don’t think there’s ever really a time where you’d really be enticed to purchase something

then again, that’s just me

[amber canyon]

You can do it all FTP although it will take some time: collect all the free DW you can and don't fritter it away on temporary things.

One bug is that ||every so often you can reuse the DW codes, I've never bothered working out why, but recommend checking every so often||.

[formal stirrup]

i never knew that bug existed. to be fair i’ve never actively looked at discussions regarding this game (or have run into any bugs myself) but that’s really interesting

good to know lol

[amber canyon]

I imagine it's explained here - https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Game_bugs

But I only discovered it a month ago.

[formal stirrup]

thanks!! i’ll look into it

[crimson needle]

I have a work from home office job. So I always have a few mobile games in my rotation. And if I'm enjoying one I like to put in $5 - $10 a month. More to support the devs then to pay for power.

[amber canyon]

Yeah, I've spent about £20 on the game (and watched a ton of ads!). When you get there, if you decide to ||do the Meso prestiges||, the Infinity pass is v useful then.

[formal stirrup]

oh yes… do utilize the ads. they’re insanely helpful. a little bit of pain watching ads is so worth the rewards

[crimson needle]

How many levels does Meso have? I think i'm on 7 or 8 atm.

[amber canyon]

Utilize, lol.

[amber canyon]

50. And then 10 x more.

[formal stirrup]

hey, i’m not wrong! haha

i’m gonna head out. nice talk

@crimson needle enjoy the rest of your time playing cells !!

[crimson needle]

I've been using the ads for 2X log-ins and boosts.

@formal stirrup nice meeting you. 😀

[crude latch]

Hey I’m kinda stuck around here for entropy, idea I finally broke through and am making progress but entropy I made what I thought was a big break but then slowed down immediately even after a 10x boost in reality engine, what should I start doing to break through this slow spot? I’m getting like 1B to 1,5B purple reality engine upgrade points before it really slows down, and really I need those 30 second boost things to go from 1B to 1.5B

[amber canyon]

The most effective way afaik is to spam-reboot. This is because your income grows quickly in the first 10-15mins while you're buying stuff and then calms down a bit (still grows though).

Otherwise, buy all the generators you can (because of the capacitor type nodes in the Reality Engine).

You can check your stats tab in the Reality Engine to find out which type of generators (primordial, ocean, land etc) are generating the most for you too.

[wraith panther]

i was stuck at same place, just waited for time chamber multiplier to inc to 10X and with 3 of them stacked it gave huge boost, have to wait over 24 hrs for it

[crude latch]

Okay thank you I’ll try that, what upgrade should I go for next?

[crude latch]

Might try that if all else fails, really like playing actively so hoping i donthsve to tho

[amber canyon]

In the Reality engine? I'd go for ones that do reality level chips > sim speed > metabit/knowledge > entropy/ideas > tap improvements > logit/DW one time rewards.

If you play actively you might prefer more tap though.

Regardless, usually by the time you've rebooted a few times, things that were expensive have become cheap, so no need to agonise too much.

[wraith panther]

well you can keep quick reset every 30 min to gather points and spend them together on bigger tech

i did that once, reset 5 times without spending anything on tech

[amber canyon]

Right. My time crystals are maxed. Waiting for the update to be available now.

[junior fox]

If I want to help with translations who I need to dm?

[amber canyon]

Go to https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1266804326572097636 probably

[junior fox]

And they will take in consideration my messages in this channel?

[shy trout]

Hello

[amber canyon]

I don't know, I don't contribute there. You could asking in that channel, someone will know.

[bitter bone]

can anyone tell me how the darwinium synthesizer works? please

[hollow pelican]

it generates you Darwiniums

[sudden dome]

why does 1000 mutagen cost 25 darwinium if you can get more from a 2 darwinium stone geode

[wraith panther]

any point in going through mesozoic prestige? dose it give any buff to main sim ?

[hollow pelican]

just open a geode

[amber canyon]

You can see the effect of Meso levels in the nodes to the left of the central Crystal in the reality engine.

Whether prestiges buff your primary sim depends on which version you're in, and what nodes you've bought.

[amber canyon]

In my opinion? To allow people who pay attention to make better decisions than those who don't.

[white egret]

or power creep

like at rank 1 you get like 50 mutagen

[rain rain]

yes. yes

[warm hill]

We have mollusks but no snails💔

[pseudo yew]

hi guys, is anyone online?

[warm hill]

Hello brand of pan coated with polytetrafluoroethylene

[pseudo yew]

haha, how do u know I'm a fan of polytetrafluoroethylene?

[warm hill]

Because your name is teflon

[pseudo yew]

oh yes

[warm hill]

You remind me of that one fun fact bout alkenes

In our text book

Page 200 something

[warm hill]

Do you guys code

[warm lodge]

That's Tefal. Tefal (Telfon-Aluminium) used Teflon but Tefal is not Teflon.

[warm hill]

Okok nice trivia

[warm lodge]

But I'm getting PFAS in my blood from this chat lol.

[quasi ivy]

well

that sure is a rare geode

[forest anchor]

Epic

[lone bronze]

that's a stone geode???

or is that an extinction geode

(the geodes you get when you do an extinction are different from stone ones I think)

[fading prairie]

hi guys

[quasi ivy]

normal one ive maxed meso for years

[lone bronze]

oh lol

valentines day is coming up

are you cell to SINGLElarity or not?

[quasi ivy]

😔

SINGLElarity for now

[lone bronze]

oh ok

nothing wrong with that

[quasi ivy]

the gay love life isnt easy!!!

[lone bronze]

youll find someone eventually a

why is the emoji called starbit tho

ain't they constellation fragments

[quasi ivy]

guess they got a silly lil nickname

[lone bronze]

yea lol

they even have the old scrapped currencies

idk

im just checking out the emojis lol

[quasi ivy]

[quaint phoenix]

is it a bug? I have green card near the Mozazaur but I dont have anything to upgrade there

[forest anchor]

Probably

[lofty robin]

Do you have two upgrade cards available for this dinosaur

[quaint phoenix]

no

[meager rune]

hi

[lofty robin]

Then you probably used mystery card and it gave you mozazaur payout cards

[amber canyon]

Sometimes the game gives you cards before you've unlocked them (usually through the mystery trait) They'll show with a cells logo instead of the card info when you go and look for them (instead of like the attached).

If this has happened you get the green thing,but you can't upgrade (yet).

[lofty magnet]

Updates are weird on Google playstore, this update drops like 1-2 days before schedule. The molluscs is out now. I can't play them because im only level 67 but yeah. It's out for the ones that can play it

[viral breach]

||I think every time you uninstall and reinstall the game on mobile you can use again, but don't quote me on that||

[amber canyon]

🤷 - I only remember doing that once, trying to fix a bug I had with E29. Anyway, if it happens, it happens. Not gonna deliberately do it. Although I absolutely do check to see if it's happened (I appreciate this is an odd line to draw 🙂).

[tall mirage]

more like leaving it upto fate rather than deliberating doing it u mean

[fading prairie]

just got elephant

now 14

[zenith lodge]

are events always so grindy for top 10?

I've already spent like 600 darwinium to keep up

8/11 through challenge 3 now and 7th place, 9700 science

How can I do that? I even set a timer for one hour to remind me to use the 4 timeskips and upgrade. I would sweat more if I knew how

[hoary creek]

i got to challenge 2 and that was enough for top 10 in epidemic event, i didnt play any other ones that much though

[fluid delta]

If you are spending 600 DW to try and get Top 10, you're doing it wrong. Seriously. You could buy 6 Black Holes that you'd need to win Top 10 six times, to just break even. Don't worry about Top 10/25/whatever, just get the 3 badges, that's what matters. Later on, when you've done the event a few times and thus have a 90%+ bonus, you'll be better positioned for it. If you want to try it anyway, start a couple days late, make sure you are topped up with the 4x ad bonus, go in and out of the event every 5 minutes (watching the ad each time for the 2x multiplier). Keep it up until the event timer ends. (Obviously if you choose to do this, having Infinity Pass will make things much smoother, you'll avoid having to watch a ton of ads)

[hoary creek]

what happens if i join for the last like, 2 hours of the event

can i just get the rewards really easily

for top 10

[fluid delta]

you will probably not complete the event unless you have a big previous event bonus (like 200+%) and you do what I just described to Price.

[zenith lodge]

i assumed my competitors were spending 10 darwinium on time skips every 15 mins lol

[fluid delta]

No, I doubt it. I never need to, to get Top 10. The biggie is going into and out of the event very frequently.

(but you will want to do all of what I described)

A thing which most don't know is that unlike the other parts of the game, Events progress faster when you're not in them... which is why I am not saying to just stay in the event all the time.

[hoary creek]

i had an autoclicker on...

[fluid delta]

If you're playing on Steam, yeah, that's a good idea.

[hoary creek]

It was on mobile

[zenith lodge]

Wait really? I should leave the event before closing the app?

[fluid delta]

By "exit the event" I mean either closing the game, or just going into another part of it, like Primary, Beyond, or Meso

[hoary creek]

I didnt join the current event yet

ill join at the end cause i want to test my theory

[last niche]

What did y'all think about the resolution on the swamp battle

?

[fluid delta]

What's your bonus for the event?

[fluid delta]

What swamp battle?

[amber canyon]

I have a badge boost of 240% (sorry - 229%) for this event. Fastest I've completed it without Infinity pass is 2 hours 20 mins.

I would normally wait to start it until 2 1/2 - 3 hours before the end: that way I'll get badges and rank top 10.

Do with this info what you want.

[sullen jolt]

I changed my pfp.

[last niche]

What did you think now about the rain frog being an animated not changed* trophy

[fluid delta]

pfp? what's that?

[sullen jolt]

My profile picture

[last niche]

*means it doesn't need logits

[fluid delta]

Oh, Idc care about the social media stuff

[fluid delta]

ah. ok? I keep mine like it is, for.. reasons. 🙂

[zenith lodge]

I think my badge boost for this event is 30% from the three badges, you can get it higher than that?

[sullen jolt]

Well mine is for the beyond update

[fluid delta]

Yes. By repeating the event when it comes up again in the rotation

[zenith lodge]

Ohh I didn't know they repeated

that might be why im behind the others

[clear zenith]

Mayhaps dumb question but related to events - if I darwinium boost for longer than the event is running, does the leftover time get carried over into the next event?

[fluid delta]

... k? Mine is a pic from my favorite MMO.. and so is the name

[fluid delta]

nope. Events are self-contained (misunderstood question)

[amber canyon]

Yes.

[clear zenith]

wait which is it 😭

[fluid delta]

.. maybe I misunderstood your q

[clear zenith]

I'm talking about the 2x/4x booster

[fluid delta]

Any ad boost carries over.

Oh! Yes. That carries over.

[lament silo]

Tank event when 🗣️ 🔥

[clear zenith]

sweet thanks gang

[amber canyon]

I'm assuming you mean the X2 / X4 income boost.

[hoary creek]

well i dont care about completing it is the idea

i just want the rank bonus

[fluid delta]

The really important thing is the badges, bc those get applied to nodes in Reality Engine.

The rank bonus is nice, but not really anything you need, it just makes you progress a bit faster in Beyond and Meso

[lament silo]

whats your favorite badge

[amber canyon]

I know. Just letting you know you may be competing against people with significant badge boosts who are sprinting. Or maybe not.

[zenith lodge]

i was grinding event for the logits

[amber canyon]

And ofc, you'll have to fight your way through the 'dummy' players.

[clear zenith]

what like bots (or whatever it is, idk)? man I remember the days of having top three prizes 😅

[fluid delta]

yeah, logits are a benefit of doing events. You'll eventually run out of things to spend them on though..I have almost 15000 saved up.

[clear zenith]

that's why I'm not too worried about making top ten personally. I know I'll run out of logit uses eventually, so might as well not rush to get there

[fluid delta]

heh yeah, When Top 10/25/50 were Top 1/2/3, I never bothered doing them, it was nearly impossible, lol. Ofc it didn't help that I was relatively new to the game, so my event bonus was low

[amber canyon]

Not bots as far as I know. Just placeholders.

For example, you'll never start an event and be in the top 10 straight away, even if you're in the first 10 real players in the division. AFAIK there are placeholders that you have to pass.

[clear zenith]

ahhh gotcha. I never thought about that but that makes sense why I always start around #800 no matter what

[amber canyon]

That's the same as lots of us have seen. Hence why we think there are dummy players.

[clear zenith]

Now an unrelated question as I poke around this server some more - the instructions to get progression roles seem to be for the mobile version; I'm not seeing any "game transfer" on the Steam version. Do I have to use mobile for that?

[lament temple]

How do I get progression roles?

• The way roles used to work in the Cells Discord server is through a fancy feature called “Linked Roles.” An update a few months ago broke the linked roles system, and because linked roles have been broken for so long, the moderators have decided to revert to the old method of assigning game progression roles: manually. Post screenshots of your progress in #🏆-share-your-prestige, and you might get some snazzy roles if your progress meets certain requirements.
  -# In case you want to look at the requirements, please click on the server's top bar, then select 'Linked Roles'. You can view the requirements of each role there.

Frequently Asked Questions • Requested by Kf

[clear zenith]

ahhhhh darn okay

thank you

[amber canyon]

You mean ⬆️?

[clear zenith]

yeye

[amber canyon]

Also, bear in mind this pinned comment in Share your prestige - #🏆-share-your-prestige message

[magic lichen]

damn im starting to get pretty far away

[clear zenith]

This reminds me I've been meaning to swap my game over to French for a while lol

[trim rover]

there actual people here - lol - there is no ingame chat that ive seen

[clear zenith]

Yep there's nothing like that in game

So yeah welcome to the chat lol

[trim rover]

is there any tutoprial videos on you tube?

[clear zenith]

Probably but I haven't looked myself. Tutorials for anything in particular?

[fluid delta]

Just play around with the game, it isn't difficult. You don't need to watch a vid to have success in the game.

[trim rover]

the darwin thing - and the reality engine - im kind of bunping around

[clear zenith]

Ahhh yeah Darwinium's the premium currency, though it's not too hard to get without spending money

[trim rover]

ive spent $15 bucks - the 12 for the month long no commericail crap lol

[clear zenith]

And if you've played any other idle games I'd say reality engine isn't too different from any other prestige system

[trim rover]

never - lol found this by a fluke - i usually play war games

[clear zenith]

Ah gotcha. Well basically it's just resetting your progress, but during the reset you can make upgrades that'll make you progress faster when you restart

Like a new game +, except there's infinite levels of new game pluses

I believe I'm on new game + number 70 rn

[trim rover]

wow - im like 11 - i did the music but it disapeared on me - and then i have dinos planits fungi and the main going right now

[clear zenith]

Yeah the music and the fungi are the limited-time events. They'll all come back around eventually if you want to replay them. Next one starts tomorrow and it's about the human body. You can see the next few up in the Discord events

They give you the other premium currency that you can't buy

Apologies if I'm overexplaining anything btw

[wise egret]

which points do I include?

[trim rover]

ahhh cool

thank you - ill be back - nice bunch of people hee

hee

[clear zenith]

Ofc, happy to help!

[magic lichen]

I put half in one and the other half in the other one

[sick scroll]

how people get so far in beyond

i am working towards 3rd prestige in dinosours and level 70 in the base game
but stuck on level12 of beyond

[fluid delta]

Time. Some of us have been playing for years.

And early Beyond does take a lot of time for some reason

(but it does get a lot faster)

and don't forget 4x ad bonus if you are on mobile (5x for research with a specific constellation)

[sick scroll]

i am no different

this just felt a lot harder for some reason

[clear zenith]

huh. I'm 11 in beyond, 34 in primary and 27 in mesozoic. ymmv ig

[sick scroll]

maybe i just messed my constallation stuff

[clear zenith]

maybe. I just went for constellations that needed less stars first lol

[hoary creek]

im at 12 of beyond 37 prestige 1 in mesozoic and 64 in primary

[sick scroll]

i may or may not gave my star things to oort object but havent seen any yet

[clear zenith]

wait how the heck am I so far in beyond relatively. like seriously I don't mean this as a humblebrag. what am I doing differently? lol

[clear zenith]

I don't even have oort yet so idk. haven't seen what yet?

[sick scroll]

celestial objects with oort tag

idk i can only conjure

or look up to wiki but i dont like doing that

[clear zenith]

ohhhh

yeah I kind of glazed over Aquarius because it takes a ton of stars and I don't have any oort stuff. my bonuses rn are for asteroids, celestial bodies, moons, terrestrials planets, and stars. I'm currently doing Pisces for the 3x click but looking at it now I realize I should have started Taurus for the gaseous planets 🤦‍♂️

but based on my knowledge of where oort is and how far out rank 11 gets me, my guess is oort isn't more than a few levels away

[sick scroll]

also ive heared there are more contellation that take up a lot of star pieces

[clear zenith]

after the 12 zodiac ones? yeah I think I saw something about that but idk myself. just focusing on what I've got unlocked for now

[dusty nacelle]

Hey can someone help my modules wont activate

[fluid delta]

not sure if they only take effect on a new sim reboot or not

[clear zenith]

in my experience they go right to active as soon as I buy them

[clear zenith]

but it's possible that a reboot or closing and reopening the game could fix it

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[amber canyon]

You can't see them in the relevant place in your Re stats page?

[trim rover]

So I'm here at the android.. again.. but should I just keep building? Does it keep expanding if I keep building?

[dusty nacelle]

How do i check stats i cant find it in the 3 lines area

[trim rover]

That one I don't know either. Lol

[dusty nacelle]

Alr i dont know if i just missed it but i dont think im far in the game yet because i am mid game

[clear zenith]

no, you have to trigger the asteroid to progress further

[trim rover]

So does no good to keep upgrading .. got it

Thank you

[steel raft]

The mollusc stuff costs too much

Anyone knows how to get more Money

?

[clear zenith]

well you can get some mutagen () if you keep going but by the look of it you've got plenty already, and you'll probably get it quicker by restarting

[dusty nacelle]

Also btw when im trying to do save manager in game when i put all the correct information in it says incorrect username and password when it asked me for a username

[clear zenith]

what level are you in the main simulation? if you've levelled up or reset the simulation at all, you should be able to view the reality engine at any time (tmk). here's where stats are

[amber canyon]

See how alpha module has a Primordial multiplier? And then the stats page on the right? Like that.

[brazen junco]

How do you know already?

Steam?

[clear zenith]

did you make an account yet? it's not linked to any other account, like Discord or anything

[steel raft]

No?

[brazen junco]

Unfair how steam gets everything earlier

[steel raft]

I already have the update wtf

[brazen junco]

On phone?

[steel raft]

I'm on android

[brazen junco]

You sure?

[steel raft]

Yep

[dusty nacelle]

Yes but the module still says activated but i clicked on it

[steel raft]

Yes bro

[brazen junco]

It's not February 11. Yet

[steel raft]

Idk how

[brazen junco]

How

[clear zenith]

I thought the update said by the 11th, implying it could show up sooner

[brazen junco]

You gotta be trolling me

[steel raft]

I Also have the tree but idk if i can show you

[amber canyon]

Not sure what you mean?

[dusty nacelle]

Level 16

[brazen junco]

Are you an beta tester or what

[amber canyon]

Some people on Android and iOS have it.

[steel raft]

No

BRO IDK HOW 😭

I thought everyone got it

[clear zenith]

okay so yeah if you select the bar at the top (on pc at least, I'd assume it's the same for mobile) it should bring you to reality engine and the bar chart-looking thing in the menu is your stats

[clear zenith]

you're just special ig, lol

[steel raft]

Can i show part of the tree or i Will get banned for spoilers?

[steel raft]

Yes ig

[amber canyon]

Fwiw, the snip I replied with is android.

[brazen junco]

HUH???

[amber canyon]

You can show it.

[clear zenith]

I mean I just sent a screenshot with a bunch of the reality engine unlocked so I think you're good as long as it's not beta content

[brazen junco]

What is this witchcraft

[steel raft]

I'm Stuck a this

Thing

[brazen junco]

I think they released the update to early

Otherwise i can't explain it

[dusty nacelle]

Im only using samsung phone because on pc i cant really connect to my account i dont know if its because i got the game on steam instead of the app store

[amber canyon]

Either reboot-spam or wait for time nodes to build up.

[steel raft]

👍🏼👍🏼

[dusty nacelle]

Also with the save manager when i do verification for my gmail. it does not send to my gmail

[thorn trellis]

Has anyone played the new update on Steam yet? I'm waiting for the mobile release

[clear zenith]

nah I'm too much of a low-level weakling even tho I am on Steam

[amber canyon]

Check the pins for a comment from TheQuickFox with how to set up save manager. If you've done that (and not e.g. tried logging in with your Gmail email and password) and it hasn't worked, you could DM Cells Support.

[dusty nacelle]

Is it for samsung phone?

[dusty nacelle]

And how do i see the pins

[amber canyon]

If you follow the instructions, you are creating an account with Cells to Singularity. It has nothing to do with the device brand or operating system you are using.

[amber canyon]

Top right of the screen, click the magnifying glass, select the 'pins' option.

[dusty nacelle]

Alr thanks

But my main email says its already being used

[fluid delta]

lots did as soon as it dropped. trust me. 😄

[thorn trellis]

Really

[amber canyon]

Check your emails, including spam folders for an email from the cells team.

If you can't find anything, DM or email cells support.

[amber canyon]

Am still waiting (Im)patiently ...

[fluid delta]

Aww. Sorries. Only a couple days left, though

[amber canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-forever-waiting-for-you-it's-been-84-years-meme-gif-3221316472416716605

[fluid delta]

See, this is incentive for you to install Steam on your PC!

[amber canyon]

On ... My ... Pc ... ? Hang on, do I have one??

[fluid delta]

I'm sure you do.. it might be in laptop form factor though

[amber canyon]

But my Time Crystals are ready to party with the Molluscs.

[steel raft]

What is this

[fluid delta]

A beta thing

[fluid delta]

Well sure, I mean once the mobile version arrives, then you can move to PC at that point..

[steel raft]

Will It add new stuff?

[amber canyon]

Nope. I have a phone and a tablet. Just work laptops, which I am very definitely not allowed to install games on 😁.

[fluid delta]

of course!

[fluid delta]

Heh. Is it one of those "it's better to ask forgiveness than permission" things if they catch you? 🙂

[amber canyon]

And no, I'm not buying a laptop just to play Cells updates a week earlier on.

[amber canyon]

Nope. Definitely not! It would be a being escorted off the premises and becoming unemployable 👀.

[fluid delta]

I just figured you had something for home use. Like.. I have a cheap laptop attached to my TV where I watch movies and vids and such on, instead of using predatory apps built into the TV

[fluid delta]

heh fair enough

[amber canyon]

Hmm. TVs. I remember them. Must be 15 years since I owned one.

[fluid delta]

I have a 85" MiniLED. Very nice, even when watching older stuff like Stargate or Babylon 5! 🙂

[amber canyon]

Well, technically my ex owned them I guess.

[fluid delta]

nodnod

[steel raft]

I'm on android and i have the mollusc update

[amber canyon]

Hang on. I do have a projector somewhere. Used it to watch spooky movies in the woods a few years ago.

[fluid delta]

TVs are bad now in the sense of software.. they are very well known for taking screenshots of what you are showing multiple times per second and uploading them... which is part of why most TVs are so inexpensive. But it can't do that if it's never connected to the internet in the first place.

[clear zenith]

this is why I want a "dumb" tv not a smart tv lol

[amber canyon]

Ugh.

I'll just put up with my tablet and phone doing their invasions of my privacy. And try and keep that under control. Sigh.

[fluid delta]

Those exist as commercial signage and the like, but are expensive and poor-featured (talking things like hz and color accuracy there) compared to TVs. Fortunately, great computer monitors exist, and they don't have those issues. Ofc they are physically way smaller, 32" (diagonal) is a typical big size, 27" is more common and also usually cheap

[amber canyon]

Is my kettle safe to use? 😉

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. you can connect your tablet to a TV, though you won't have the same capability you might have with a PC.. but it's an option anyway, for future.

[fluid delta]

... probably. 🙂

[amber canyon]

I think I'm happy watching stuff on a tablet. Or going to the cinema if it's a film I particularly want to watch with fancy sound and visuals.

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. viewing a movie on a large TV is a pretty sweet experience.. and ofc no obnoxious people around you or sticky floors from spilled drinks. And while I know it's not your thing, gaming on a big TV can be awesome too.. though I almost never bother, I use my PC's monitor for that (32") bc that's where my gaming desktop is

(but I can screencast to the TV below, I have it connected to my internal network)

none of this is all that complex

[amber canyon]

I have a few decent Arts Cinemas near me with well behaved customers. Last time I went to a chain cinema it was full of obnoxious people though.

Mainly I tend to go to live stuff though.

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. and ofc stuff at home, you can watch what you want on your own schedule.

.. and eat while watching, too!

[amber canyon]

Besides, I quite like telling the TV Licence people that no, I still don't need a TV Licence, so bugger off.

[fluid delta]

Oh yeah, that's a UK thing, isn't it! No such thing in Canada or US, fortunately.

[clear zenith]

what the freak

you need a subscription to use a tv?

that's dumb

[fluid delta]

Yes. Europe has it's own way of doing things. Sometimes better. Sometimes worse.

[clear zenith]

sometimes worse...

but usually better

[amber canyon]

Well, in terms of the amount of money it costs,it's not especially expensive. It's more that they're obnoxious with not believing that people don't need one.

[steel raft]

What Is this branch It's triggering me for so long

[amber canyon]

You need a TV Licence if you watch anything broadcast live (regardless of the channel), or anything on BBC. It basically funds the BBC and some stuff on other channels that isn't commercially viable. It's £180 a year.

[clear zenith]

ohhhh it's just a cable package. that's a bit more reasonable

[amber canyon]

Sort of. It predates cable packages. Not exactly sure how it works now, with smart TVs. But it all used to be easy to receive with normal TVs, no boxes or anything required. Hence the licence model.

[clear zenith]

honestly that sounds way more like an American (because we love capitalism I mean) thing. There's this thing people can get for free? fix that.

[amber canyon]

Possibly future content?

[fluid delta]

As I recall, the license is quite old, and was a great way of funding broadcast TV, without ads factoring into it, and if you don’t have a TV, you don’t pay. Ofc that model is maybe outdated in the 2020s, with where tech is these days.

And unlike the US and Canada, UK at least back last millenium had very few channels

[sturdy peak]

Guys, how do you think the Mesozoic Valley could be made less boring, with more reasons to play it besides collecting dinosaurs and getting reptiles and birds?

[fluid delta]

(not 100% certain, my knowledge may be outdated)

[amber canyon]

Exactly this.

It appears to be a broken model these days though. Based on what I see in the news.

Hey, I remember channel 5 launching. We had LOTS of channels! 🤣

[clear zenith]

I guess that's fair. A lot of tv here is (was? I don't keep up with news) tax-funded and I can see how that could be unfair to people who don't use it.
But that becomes a dangerous line of thinking when you think about all the other things taxes pay for.

[fluid delta]

I mean, Meso is what it is. Nothing says you have to play it! It does get kinda tedious though

[amber canyon]

Make it so there's no need to Prestige. So people don't need to play it (yes, reverse the change made in the Molluscs update).

I'd much rather the Devs spent effort on developing future parts of the game, rather than spending time and money fiddling with Meso.

[fluid delta]

Or add a button that lets you insta-complete all 10 Prestige levels.. even if it costs you 100 DW or something

[azure turtle]

Add more prestiges so I have something to do

[amber canyon]

Evil!!!

[clear zenith]

I was gonna say it's fine as is but I'm only level 27 compared to all these folks and I really have no stake in the prestige argument

[fluid delta]

Nono.. if you want neverending content, that’s what good MMOs are for 🙂

[amber canyon]

Should we ping martian council to delete Quarter's post? Don't want the Devs to get ideas...

[azure turtle]

Make them don't matter,, I just want numbers to go up

[amber canyon]

What's your Meso like?

[azure turtle]

Prestige 10, rank 50

226 giganto iirc

[amber canyon]

If you put a snip here, I can edit it to make the numbers bigger?

[amber canyon]

You will do if you feel like you have to do them in the future!

[azure turtle]

I want numbers go up with gameplay

Not editing

[amber canyon]

Picky!

[azure turtle]

Just 523 left to go!

[clear zenith]

oh goodness 😓

is there something I don't know? because at the rate I'm going that sounds like it'll take years

[fluid delta]

That’s just Meso. Not RL, if you meant that

[azure turtle]

It'll get faster

[amber canyon]

Maybe after prestige 10 level 50, the Devs could give you a cannon and you could go round killing all the Dinos one last time. Would be cathartic.

[clear zenith]

so I'm probably being dumb but...what's RL again?

[amber canyon]

Real Life?

[fluid delta]

Research Level

[clear zenith]

ahh

[fluid delta]

.. and yes "Real Life", too 🙂

[azure turtle]

Oh wait sorry, 242 gigantos

Just 8 more to my goal

[flint oxide]

How

[clear zenith]

yeah I'm at 33 already and I think the highest level I've seen here is seventy-something

[flint oxide]

Do these people just play non stop

[clear zenith]

I sure hope real life takes years, lol

[azure turtle]

4x boost, can also exploit idle time

[amber canyon]

Ah, must be nice to be one of those newbie players 😉

[fluid delta]

me too! 😄

[flint oxide]

All of the ads/darwinium ig

[azure turtle]

Since in events it's 100% iirc

[fluid delta]

I mean, if you are envious there, you could start fresh on a new Cells account..

[azure turtle]

So when you go offline, you can come back and double it, earning twice as much, or autoclicker

[clear zenith]

tmk it's more about how long they've played overall than how long they're playing now

[azure turtle]

Hmmm

[amber canyon]

I'm okay. Being able to buy a Dino every month or so. That's enough.

[fluid delta]

Highest fully legit is probably around 75 or so. But you'll get there!

[flint oxide]

True, this is an event that i had done 3x before apparently and i went through it pretty fast, hence why i’m 22nd now ig

[azure turtle]

76 is max atm

[clear zenith]

I assume that's a soft cap?

[fluid delta]

Yes, soft cap

[amber canyon]

Well, I'm in Empty Sim late game land. So my strategy is to not buy anything for 3 weeks, then have a day of playing. Then back to doing nothing for 3 weeks.

[fluid delta]

There is no hard cap

[clear zenith]

so what do you do at that point?

[fluid delta]

I have found that since the last couple of updates, it makes sense to do some reboot spamming to get the "cheap" nodes, then do the empty sim strat (so, therefore, not in fully legit territory, if that matters to you) for 21d.

[clear zenith]

man I'm using an autoclicker idk as long as it's not ridiculously cheaty

[fluid delta]

autoclicker is 100% fine and legit

[flint oxide]

Tap doesnt even give so much entropy does it

[amber canyon]

Hmm. I don't feel like I've been falling behind the game with just empty Sims.

[clear zenith]

but I've been seeing the term "empty sim" floating around while I've been here and I don't quite get what it is

not that I anticipate being at that point for a bit

[fluid delta]

You're at 72, so you are behind a bit, for an endgame player.. and you'll need to level up to reach an unlock.

[flint oxide]

+1 but i’m not very deep into game physics etc

[amber canyon]

Almost certainly not relevant to you yet.

But basically, start a run, don't buy any generators and until three weeks have passed.

[amber canyon]

I unlocked everything in primary. And could have bought Neutrino Expansion weeks ago if I'd wanted.

[flint oxide]

Oh bc of the time multiplier

In the simulation upgrade thing

[clear zenith]

ohhhh is that exploiting the reality upgrades that increase speed based on how long the sim's running?

[flint oxide]

I said it the smooth brain way

[clear zenith]

haha

but is that really more efficient then just having a sim that's at least 21 days long?

[amber canyon]

About a million times more efficient. Sort of.

[clear zenith]

huh. how does that even work?

[amber canyon]

Depends what you're measuring by.

[flint oxide]

Why wouldnt you buy and have the sim run for 21d already?

[fluid delta]

You’ll find that you won’t have everything in Primary once you have the update, and you’ll need to reach || 74 || to unlock a node.

[amber canyon]

If you have the 2 knowledge time crystals, they multiply your knowledge by 1000 each.

Waiting to earn knowledge until they're maxed, you get x1000x1000 knowledge.

[azure turtle]

Randomly decided to speedrun singularity just now and got a new best

[fluid delta]

Nifty UI thing in upcoming beta.. no spoilers, but it’ll make keeping track of Time stuff much easier

[amber canyon]

Yes, I know I haven't got enough for the next update, that I haven't got yet.

Anyway, I like playing through an update, rather than speed running it straight to the end, so it works for me.

[clear zenith]

Oh yeah I've been meaning to join the beta - but it seems like it's all later game content rn. Would I even get anything out of it?

[fluid delta]

I don’t play beta, so I’d say “no”, If you stay on Live, you get the (mostly) bug-free experience.

[fluid delta]

Yeah, fair enough. My game time tends to go into certain PC games, these days. Cells I prefer to go faster.

[amber canyon]

There'd be some new features you could play test. But the risk is your game file is essentially 'broken' for playing normally. Because beta versions can be very unbalanced.

[fluid delta]

.. but you could make a separate Cells account for Beta things. I know some people do that.

[amber canyon]

'mostly'

[amber canyon]

Not bad! Better than mine I think.

[clear zenith]

Good point, I might do that. Been meaning to make a new gmail account anyway

[fluid delta]

Heh. Well. I am happy the bugs that exist, are still present… I will say that. shiftyeyes

[amber canyon]

Imma gonna use them AlsoShiftyEyes, but still wish they didn't exist.

Ooh. Flood warnings. I don't have to be in office tomorrow. Yay!

[fluid delta]

Well… ok, I agree. I am… how shall I say it… being shameless atm when it comes to my use of Cells bugs in Live. But I would also be fine with a 100% legit experience with the right sort of “carrot” at this point also

[amber canyon]

P.S. Sepheria, an catching up with you on the event. You do this every time???

[fluid delta]

hehe nah.. only occasionally will I bother with Top 10. This seems to be one of those times 🙂 .. which Div are you in?

[amber canyon]

286. Started ... 11 hours ago?

[fluid delta]

286! That’s a number in computing that brings me back! I’m in 188. Rank 2.

[amber canyon]

I figured I got a 💜tryhard💜 div - I'm only in 5th.

[fluid delta]

how much science?

[amber canyon]

8657

[fluid delta]

I'm at 8941 at this exact moment, but I have a bunch not cashed in yet

CL3

[amber canyon]

Yeah, CL3 too. I wasn't expecting to be able to play much once I go to sleep until the event finishes. Thought I'd try and sneak to the top of an easy div. Not happened 🤣.

[fluid delta]

heh

[amber canyon]

Think my families first 'PC' was an Amstrad 286. Maybe?

[fluid delta]

Mine was a IBM XT

so, 8088 4.77MHz

I gamed on it, ofc

Amigas were out by that point, I lusted after it, but in retrospect, it's probably for the better

[amber canyon]

Was released 1989, seems about right.

We weren't allowed to game much on it: we could game on the BBC or the Sinclair.

[amber canyon]

My mate had an Amiga. I was very jealous!

[fluid delta]

I had full access of mine, it wasn't a family computer.. I was the only one with interest in it. I had a modem too, so I think it's probably fair to say that I was on social media in the late 80s.

Heh yes, I knew a couple people with an Amiga too, I was also very jealous!

[amber canyon]

But then, she was still using it at uni. I remember trying (and succeeding!) to find a compatible printer for it in about 2000.

[fluid delta]

By 2000 ofc things had changed. I stopped being jealous once Win 95 was out, maybe? And ofc Win NT era, PC was solidly better

[amber canyon]

Think my first internet stuff was 1995-ish. Can't remember being too impressed by it.

[warm lodge]

Nice, my first PC was a Turbo XT clone. With a NEC-V-20. It was secondhand. Other people already had 486 PC's at that time.

[amber canyon]

I think I still preferred the older games. Even then.

[fluid delta]

I.. ah... had met people in person that I'd met online, more than once, by that point. And that's not even counting Usenet Newsgroups.. the Reddit of it's day but kindof with Torrenting combined.

[fluid delta]

Nice!!

[fluid delta]

There were a bunch of games from the 90s that stood out for me. Wing Commander 1 + 2, Ultima Underworld, Civ 1 + 2... and Baldur's Gate 1 + 2, Icewind Dale, towards the end of that decade.

[amber canyon]

The XT looks like the pcs that were in factories doing stock and job management in about 1995-2000.

[warm lodge]

It actually was the family PC at that time. But it broke because a virus ate the boot sector. It laid broken on the attic for years. And when I saw it my mom said: If you can repair it you may have it. Well. That's how I learned PC tech.

[fluid delta]

Sweet! I learned PC tech just by falling in love with computing at school, and just.. learning what I could, and keeping up, reading Byte and other sources, etc.. and owning a PC, doing builds when I could afford to.

[warm lodge]

I knew absolutely nothing about computers back then. But I went to the library and got books like PC's for Dummies and DOS for beginners and learned everything myself.

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. lots of good advice on Usenet as well.... and the origins of Linux can be found there as well.

[amber canyon]

I still remember the fallout from my elder brother doing a delete star.star on our first pc ... He was not popular ...

[fluid delta]

heh

[amber canyon]

I liked DOS. I remember being anti-windows for ages. It felt so backwards to me.

[warm lodge]

And I learned about PC security because I went to school and in computer class my fellow students were sending win-nukes over the network to crash our school PC's. The syssadmin had not updated Windows 95 for years (It was in the years before Windows Update) and antivirus was years old as well. So I had to take floppy disks with the Windows network patches and a nuke detector program with me lol.

[fluid delta]

DOS was... ok. I mean, it was and remains very simple. Windows was fine, easy for a kid to understand. it multi-tasked DOS pretty well by the Win 95 era.. though OS/2 was better at it.

[warm lodge]

Then I could pinpoint exactly who was sending the nukes.

And I guess the sysadmin could have thanked me that I updated the 2 years old antivirus for them.

[amber canyon]

Sounds like they wouldn't know what that meant, lol.

[warm lodge]

Ah, Windows 95. Innocence died fast.

[fluid delta]

lol.. Win 95 wasn't bad.

but Win NT 4 was very much a step up.

(I ran that at home, once I could)

[warm lodge]

I skipped NT4 and went from Win98 to Win2K. Because I played games and needed DirectX.

[fluid delta]

Yeah, Win 2000 was great too, I jumped to that once it was out

[warm lodge]

Win2K was the first NT that had DirectX built-in.

But maybe we should move to #🏠-general

[fluid delta]

Ironically, you have to install DirectX now to play some games... though Steam usually does it for you

[fluid delta]

well... #🏠-general though is where threads go to die....

[amber canyon]

I was thinking that. But it's 💤 time for me. And the convo would die.

So, enjoy computer reminiscing 🙂.

[fluid delta]

Sleep well!!

[last zodiac]

is it supposed to be raking this long to get to level 71?

i've been stuck at level 70 for a bit now

[fluid delta]

might be time to buy some more nodes in Reality Engine?

[last zodiac]

cant

[last zodiac]

ive bought just abt all i can

[fluid delta]

then you either will want to “spam reboot” some, or (easier) do a sim run for (ideally) 21 game days.

[last zodiac]

waiting 21 days for mollusks sounds miserable ehehe

[fluid delta]

or do it less. even 1 week will get you nodes

[last zodiac]

okie

[clear zenith]

<@&535129309648781332> there's another scammer in #🏆-share-your-prestige and #🎨-cells-art

looks like another hacked acct - been here since 2021

[azure turtle]

Thanks

They can appeal if they get back the account

[clear zenith]

dumb question maybe but it's been on my mind for a bit since I got it - all Cytoplasm does is "unlock daily mutation". What does that mean?

[forest anchor]

It unlocks the daily reward calendar

[clear zenith]

wait did I not have that before? how did I not notice.

[loud loom]

Cells is one of those games that always get you back to playing

[desert flax]

especially in the beta, since if one update is released for the public, the next one will be out for beta, and cycle continues

like with Uraniborg and Mollusk and E29

[crimson needle]

Well just finshed day 2 of starting cells ( F2P ) and I just unlocked "Beyond"

I feel like things are moving really fast as a new player.

[lunar osprey]

Happy Sunday. I've decided to throw money at semblance for boosts. 👀

The permanent ones are nice 🙂

[crimson needle]

I haven't tossed money yet. But we'll see if I can get the last Mushroom badge in time. Might have to drop a few dollars

[lunar osprey]

Personally, I wouldn't buy the cubes directly. The permanently boosts offer much more value imo

[crimson needle]

Don't you buy the boosts with the permanent boosts with cubes? And aren't they all locked behind research level?

Or am I missing something?

[desert flax]

hehey, at least you're supporting the devs!

[lusty path]

something past Martian city? 0.o

[fluid delta]

No, not at present.

[lunar osprey]

That was the second reason for buying. 👀 I'm a cells addict

[inner maple]

Hmmm….

||Maybe superhumans and androids?||

Like what was in the game before the reboot

[crimson needle]

Oh... if you want to add me to your friends list my profile name is

Bahamutmega

[crimson needle]

Anyone know what this is? Tapping on it gives no information. Just a payment confirmation screen.

[chilly walrus]

I finnaly made it to level 71

[obsidian lava]

Is it just me or has anyone else's beyond generators slow to an absolute crawl after update?

[polar viper]

yes they overnerfed entire e29 to oblivion

meanwhile gamebreaking bugs get ignored

https://discordapp.com/channels/488478892873744385/1469865125770035291

[mellow carbon]

Huh, I assumed they were going to increase the requirements for completing things not slow down the generators. The generators seemed roughly correct relative to the previous ones.

[drowsy maple]

X1.1 for 150.
Are you sure it's not 1.3 instead?

[prime vale]

what do you mean 7 years ago

[dire hill]

I wondered what happened to the rates

[jade bone]

unacceptable, this needs an emergency patch

Also is it just me or does the great attractor look like that timeline thing from the loki series?

[steel tinsel]

Hi

[dull pecan]

Hlo

[keen mango]

they should add a horse branch

[keen mango]

same

[naive elm]

if there is chorophyll that means plants

[polar viper]

https://discordapp.com/channels/488478892873744385/496430259114082304/1470372100442165362
lovely. even posted the cheater leaderbord

incredible what people try for some useless roles

[white egret]

theyre on the beta but got overzelous, def cheated stuff tho, saw some like lvl 300 get verified too

[polar viper]

red leaderboard means cheater one i thought

i saw the beta tag too

[white egret]

yeah on mobile 43_42 is the beta version, but they gave themselves too much stuff so they triggered the cheat detection

so theyre on beta but their stats are beta cheated

[polar viper]

[polar viper]

that even the devs/mods are not able to see obvious cheaters is wild

[white egret]

#🏆-share-your-prestige message here it is lol

sampe has some explaining to do

[polar viper]

i think he said something about the alpha/beta stuff. screen doesnt show the leaderboard or the main sim so its hard to guess

[white egret]

150lvl marks you a cheater => gets you on the cheater board

[polar viper]

interesting

i never tried decompiling the code or if its some script language

[white egret]

i assume theyll change it in the future when thats a reachable level

[white egret]

(talking about) decompiling is banned by the TOS and rules

rule 4

[polar viper]

luckily we dont engage in datamining

[white egret]

amirite

[polar viper]

we are upstanding cells citizens

[spare crane]

aa where is the update

[warm basin]

anyone know what's the strat for the don't buy for 20 days once you reach 20 days? just reached 20 now, just want to make sure I'm not missing anything when it comes to what to prioritise and all that

does it matter? or just buy everything

[lofty robin]

Guys is this a bug

[steady dune]

Maximize the crystal gain at start

[left stirrup]

I have seen that before

[warm basin]

I'm just realising now it's 21 days so I still got a day left before buying, wdym by this though?

[fluid delta]

This is why it’s prudent to do a new Beyond as soon as it’s released. This isn’t the first time the devs have slowed down a Beyond level by quite a bit, after release.

[lofty robin]

Do you know what actually causes this

[fluid delta]

21d3h?m, actually.. you’ll know when the Time Crystals are at max.

[steady dune]

Most of crystal gains come from early fills at later stage

[left stirrup]

Not really sure but I only seen this happen with beyond multiple times by now

[warm basin]

ahh okay, I'll just keep an eye on that! once I reach the limit though what then? buy everything like normal or is there a strat

[fluid delta]

Not 100% what you mean, but the Time Crystals cap at different rates, most of the benefit is at day 9 and 10.. but then with the Time Chambers you get a huge boost at about day 21.

[fluid delta]

Buy everything as normal. Once all the time nodes are capped, they won’t increase over time any further, so there’s no point to wait any more.

[fluid delta]

Hey now, let’s not go overboard. I’m level 80 bc of one of the bugs. 🙂

[warm basin]

easy, hope it'll be worth it in the end, since I've capped meso and beyond in this time so leaving primary Sim afk leaves me only the event 😭

[polar viper]

And for what? Just to get cheater flagged at some point?

[fluid delta]

It is worth it, trust me! The amount of entropy and ideas should give you about 10 Million times more than a quick sim run will give you!

[polar viper]

Lvl is such an useless metric in this game tbh. U softcap and wait for update till next softcap.

And everything over softcap is just cheaterscum

[fluid delta]

Lol, nah, probably won’t happen. I’m not that far ahead. Besides, there’s already exploits in wide use, the “empty sim strategy” is one of them.

[polar viper]

I mean 80 sounds little bit high but still maybe doable

But its not like u have any benefit from it anyways

Nothing unlocks there

[fluid delta]

There’s unlocks. Mostly for me it will be less annoyance next update. I did a ton of reboots the last couple updates, I find that annoying. I don’t mind grinding in some games, but Cells is supposed to be an idle game, and grinding in this game gets old real fast (for me)

[polar viper]

Then why u grind more lvls?

[fluid delta]

This update. Next probably will, though.

[polar viper]

Grind now to Grind less later?

[fluid delta]

Exactly.

[polar viper]

But you grind more now than u would need to grind later

The levels with new update are instantly free

[fluid delta]

Probably not. But it’s a gamble. We’ll see!

Yes, but I will have a head start. That’s been useful in the past, since the revamp.

[polar viper]

Also i hope u reported the bug u are abusing rn

[fluid delta]

I did indeed do that. And I’ve kept totally silent on the method.

[polar viper]

Like privatly to devs

[fluid delta]

Yep! I DMed them.

[polar viper]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-gif-2679000722032043141

Can U make them fix the even worse bug?

https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1469865125770035291

[fluid delta]

Heh. Actually, there is one bug I wish they would fix, which is really annoying when reboot spamming: Cells forgetting the login when you go to upload your save.

[polar viper]

For real this is annoying

[amber canyon]

This is my approach.

Just get to the end of the primary content then don't do much in primary until the next update.

[polar viper]

Yeah

[amber canyon]

As well as being less effort, it means I get to play the game for a bit after an update 🙂.

Before Empty Sim starts again.

[amber canyon]

Welp, holding onto 6th in div 286 with 15800 science. Jeez ...

[fluid delta]

Heh, I stopped last night at rank 2 at the start of CL4. I should be good. 🙂

[amber canyon]

I get a terrible division. Never again.

[fluid delta]

Indeed.

[polar viper]

Terrible easy?

I cant even imagine how chill the events must be with 200+ % badges boosts

[fluid delta]

I wouldn’t say they are chill if you are going for Top 10, when lots of others have that same boost, necessarily.

[polar viper]

Especially the first ones, where everyone has a lot, u have zero chances as newbie

Im at 0% for fungi^^

[fluid delta]

If you just want badges and to knock out the event in a couple hours, it is very chill though.

[polar viper]

Yeah

Thats what i do with everything old

Because i cant get top places anyways

The newer ones tho i got chances

Everything people hate

Like Cats

[minor badge]

Fungi ends in a minute

[fluid delta]

Top 10 is easy though, it just takes work. Don’t start first day, keep up the 4x ad boost, and jump in and out of the event every 5 minutes (and yes, watch the ad for the 2x multiplier). It isn’t chill but it’s very easy IF you do this.

[minor badge]

i learnt that today only xd

my auto clicker is slower

[fluid delta]

…infinity pass makes it way less painful

[tired harness]

1st top 10 in an event

[minor badge]

im top 5 lol

Same rewards anyway

[polar viper]

I mean i do this, but at fungi for example u just have no chance. If u land in a division with peoples that got badges already u are behind with no catch up possible.
And i always start late and have IP atm.

[fluid delta]

start late but not TOO late. But yes, without the badge boost it will be much harder, for sure. Still probably doable though.

[keen nova]

Sorry if this is covered somewhere, but to unlock the scallop it says I need to have unlocked 'surprise escape' but I can't find this anywhere... Any clues?

[fluid delta]

no idea, sorry

perhaps need a certain level?

[polar viper]

Atm its Like 50:50 for me if i land in a division which is doable or where i dont even need to try because top 10 is 1-2 Challenge levels ahead

Can only get better tho with more badges.

[flint rain]

I was in the top 7 but i ended up in 10th

[minor badge]

Usually i end up in the top 25 if im not lazy

[fluid delta]

Not sure where I landed, yet. Not at my computer. I was at rank 2 last night though.

[minor badge]

wow

amazing

[fluid delta]

nah. big badge bonus, plus the strat i listed above.

[minor badge]

autoclicker could work right

[fluid delta]

anyway, i don’t think i will bother getting Top 10 this new event. kinda burnt out for a little bit.. started the empty sim run late last night, now i will sit back and just do events for badges as they come up

[minor badge]

i may get top 50 probably

[lone bronze]

Pizza.

[dull pecan]

Can you tell me which auto clicker is good for this game?

[gloomy jacinth]

I don't know if it's a good autoclicker but on android I use one provided by f-droid

[dull pecan]

Oh ok

[gloomy jacinth]

And I prefer to use something from f-droid than playstore, not sure about autoclickers safety, and don't want to have to watch more ads just to use an autoclicker

F-droid is an alternate "store"

[cerulean sail]

Hello, is there a way to recover a lost save? My upload misses like half of my progress

[forest anchor]

Contact the devs

Cells Support specifically

[cerulean sail]

Trough the game ?

"Contact Us"

[eternal berry]

Lovely brain glires

[whole gulch]

I’m at max level/prestige for Mesozoic Vally and still have this missing trait. Is this a placeholder for a planned update or am I missing something?

[eternal berry]

I honestly did not know there was a fifth golden card

[eternal berry]

I really need to go sleep, I read the text down on the image as "EEEECTS"

[clear zenith]

I mean it does kinda look like that

The power of cropping

[knotty frigate]

Lol

Guys are mollusks coming tomorrow or overtomorrow?

[fluid delta]

about 36 hours from now. roughly.

[lofty magnet]

I have had my simulation running for almost 21 days now, I dont have use the 21 day empty one but is still going to cap at 21 or can I have it running for longer? Because I need to upgrading soon because my idea income is crapp and its so slow that nothing happens. So if I can have sim running for longer I can save more knowledge to get even more upgrades in

[knotty frigate]

Oh okay thank you

So baisically in 2 days for me

[lofty magnet]

I have them already on google playstore but can't play with them because im to low level

[knotty frigate]

I can’t win for them

[fluid delta]

if you have all the time nodes, they cap at 21d3h. If you are not that far in the game and don’t have them all, then they may cap earlier. There is zero benefit to waiting with an empty sim run once all time nodes you have are capped.

[lofty magnet]

Im level 67

But have never touched the research tree until the sim reset because then we got new nodes on the tree

[fluid delta]

once you have filled primary after your empty sim run, you should have lots of metabits and knowledge with which to buy nodes… at which point ofc you can do another empty sim run if you choose

[lofty magnet]

Restart it is because my idea production is too slow. Haven't done an empty sim run but bought nodes along the way but are stuck now. So need to upgrade

Atleast tomorrow a couple of hours before I hit 21 days. So still get knowledge atleast

But its also starting slow done really much so maybe its reset tonight actually

[fluid delta]

wait the full 21d 3h. most of the benefit is in the last day (exponential growth until it hits the cap)

[lofty magnet]

Even if its not a clean empty sim run?

[fluid delta]

what do you mean by “not clean”?

[lofty magnet]

Have bought generators along the way but haven't bought anything the last week because I haven't enough money for barometer for example

[fluid delta]

generators will use the multiplier that existed at the time you bought them.. only unbought generators will get the benefit of the full 21d3h.

[lofty magnet]

So i get some for the barometer then atleast. So best to leave it to tomorrow then

[fluid delta]

how far have you completed primary?

in this run?

[lofty magnet]

Im level 67. Have had 250 amphibians at max. Haven't touched the research tree at all until rhe amphibians dropped

Im really far behind in the research tree and I know it. Doesn't have 5 darwinum unlocked for example

[fluid delta]

ah, gotcha.. so it’s kindof like a hybrid run. interesting.

[lofty magnet]

Yeah. I buy everything at the start but mostly leave it until I have the money to buy something but now I have hit a brick wall totally so I thibk I need to dig into the research tree to see if I can boost the idea production because that is a really bad one. It takes ages to buy something

[fluid delta]

do you have the time nodes in the knowledge section of reality engine?

[lofty magnet]

No clue. Have idea booster fully maxed up to level VII. Idea time chamber up to level V

So some time champers yeah but not all.

[fluid delta]

basically the approach i have found that works really well is to do a bunch of quick sim runs (waiting 10 minutes max for the fills) before ending and buying a bunch of nodes. When a sim run doesn’t give a bunch of nodes (ie: have bought all the cheap ones), at that point do a empty sim run.

[lofty magnet]

This my knowledge tree. Somethings are up others not

Knowledge booster is up to level 3 and idea tap to level 13 but are on tablet so barley use that

[fluid delta]

that’s a lot better than I thought you were at. good. and also good you are using Custom notation.. personal preference but I use that too 🙂

and yeah you will want to grab that time node i see there, and ofc the time crystals if you haven’t, near the middle left of the tree, below where your screenshot is

if you are unsure what to buy, just get whatever is cheapest

[lofty magnet]

Can't see the time crystal but this is the middle of my tree so I guess I have it

[fluid delta]

yes you do

[lofty magnet]

Ah the time Crystal is in metabits also

[fluid delta]

yes

[lofty magnet]

And there I'm even more behind lol

[fluid delta]

there is no rush

[lofty magnet]

Time Crystal on metabit is like level 2

[fluid delta]

don’t stress about it. buy what you can when you can.

[lofty magnet]

So my game is a real mess. I like to get everything and be done but the idea production is to slow so that needs to be fixed to get barometer.

So should I do a not empty sim run next time also to get some of the cheaper on or should I just leave it and do an empty one.
My temptation to buy things is high but yeah. Maybe fix the research tree will help to get some income in the long run.

[fluid delta]

heh.. well.. i can understand that and feel the same way. lots of sim reboots will get you far, quickly. you will want an autoclicker and play on PC, if so. Sim runs are very quick to do once you get the hang of it.

.. like maybe 1 minute quick + maybe 5 minutes for fills to happen

[lofty magnet]

Always played on tablet and yeah. The game had less min max before then now. Your income was better and it was alot faster. Everything is sp expensive nowadays lol
You could bank money, come back after an update buy everything and not play for months

[noble dune]

heyyooo

[fluid delta]

The revamp sure changed things, for sure

[lofty magnet]

The banking got destroyed completely. Have seen people complaining about on reddit. That the purpose of the game is ruined because the best way is not to play and thats weird

[noble dune]

the server has removed many roles right?

[fluid delta]

i am sure the empty sim run exploit will get patched at some point. enjoy it while it lasts

[fluid delta]

idk. i don’t pay attention to that

[lofty magnet]

Yeah. They need to fix some stuff but not sure. They seems more focus on micro transactions now in someways because everything costs darwinium and you in some way need to pay to play. And that was not thr case before. So im a little on the offensive about the current state of the game.
Because its an Idle game, not pay to play or mix man in its core.

[fluid delta]

Agreed, I have noticed that too. But, that’s ok, if I want to play something involved, PC is the place for that anyway. Cells is “fluff”. Fun, but still fluff. Mechanically, it’s very simple.

[lofty magnet]

Tablet is my way and leave and come back from time to time. I have a slight hope after reading beta patch notes (dont have beta but im reading them from time to time just to see what's coming) and the fact the time chambers is going to be more clear is going to help the on and off players i think.

[fluid delta]

Yeah, I prefer iPad as well.. but since the revamp I have felt forced to go to Steam mostly bc updates come out sooner, and it’s not really viable to spam reboot without an autoclicker.

and yes I also watch the beta patch notes, for the same reason 🙂

[lofty magnet]

But one thing that would help the game its current state is a node to boost darwinum so you can get more than 5 each day we need 10 or more now because they push the game into a darwinum needed game. We also need nodes that lessen the cost on generators etc, the income is so low compared with the costs.

[fluid delta]

the upcoming reboot automation may mitigate that, though I have my doubts.

[lofty magnet]

Also that you get more rewarded for meso and beyond in primary sim. That would also help alot.

[fluid delta]

You already get 10 per day, if you watch an ad

[lofty magnet]

True but you need 10 without ads, so you can get 20 with ads because ita so much that require it now

[fluid delta]

we already get rewarded for that, there’s nodes in Reality Engine, and they also reenabled Meso prestige benefit

[fluid delta]

well.. kindof. it’s blatant encouragement to get people to buy darwinium.. like you said, microtransactions are more of a thing.

[lofty magnet]

They also needs to be rewamp of the leaderboard in events. It would help to get more dark matters and meso currency. And maybe eveb darwinum. Because its so hard core in there that you will never hit the top spot if you haven't played the event a ton or use autoclickers

[fluid delta]

you don’t need to spend anything, but if you want to be at the edge of endgame, you need to spend some and you need to use at least the empty sim exploit if not others.

[lofty magnet]

And that sucks. They push slow players away even if the game is build on slow play

[fluid delta]

leaderboard remains broken, yes. I usually ignore it

[fluid delta]

yes, but at the same time, development costs money, running a server costs money, and costs are going up. so i understand it and accept it, even if i am not thrilled about it

[lofty magnet]

Im as I said a bit worried. To get new players they need to fix things or make tutorials. Because Im far because I have played on and off for like 6-7 years. But as a new player this game would be so much harder today

[fluid delta]

yes but.. there is no rush. but yeah, the game has changed, with some good but also some bad.

[lofty magnet]

Absolutely I agree but I think it could have been done other ways. Like focus on the infinity pass etc. Not the core parts that casual/slow players care more about. That may push away alot of people

[fluid delta]

we will have to wait and see how things evolve.. that’s all we can do

[lofty magnet]

Yeah. And rhe thing is that microtransactions may be banned in the future.

[fluid delta]

Perhaps

For a game like Cells, I prefer that over a sub

[lofty magnet]

Or atleast regulated in some ways

Yeah. The infinity is somewhat of a sub

[fluid delta]

I would stop playing if you needed a sub to run the game, IP is totally optional, fortunately.

[lofty magnet]

Yeah. But because its on steam that may hinder them to go full sub

[fluid delta]

I can and have subbed to some games, but Cells isn’t FFXIV, heh

like, not even close

[lofty magnet]

Have game pass on Xbox so I guess im a subber to games if we are picky

[fluid delta]

xbox game pass isn’t worth it now, with the changes last year… not that i ever used it.

[lofty magnet]

Have some games there so im stuck. And now some games will come out that I maybe will play but not going to pay equally to like 100 $ so game pass is cheaper in the long run

[fluid delta]

game pass isn’t cheaper (but it depends), and steam sales are a thing. but i get why you do it, and if you are playing on an xbox and not a PC (are you?) then you have no choice

[lofty magnet]

Had a pc but are not so good on the technical stuff so a gaming PC was way to expensive in the long run because the parts get so outdated quickly so choosed to but Xbox series x to play the games I want.

But have hope for next generation, steam is coming out with there console and its rumors about that the next Xbox is going to be more like a computer and have steam on it

[fluid delta]

well… but xbox is very underpowered, and a gaming pc is more expensive but also a lot better and ofc you can do way more with it than just play games + you have access to way more games including MMOs which are a big thing.

Steam console will be irrelevant bc it is weak hardware and bc of current PC parts apocalypse bc AI makes everything terrible.. at least until the bubble pops, and it will

next xbox is codenamed magnus, is based on Zen 6 + RDNA5, which will mean nothing to you if you don’t know the tech stuff, but suffice it to say that that should be very good though not cheap.

[lofty magnet]

Didn't have the money for an PC. So Xbox it was and was so desperate so didn't even bought a Xbox with disk drive so I may need to buy a playstation for some game or buy an external memory card

[fluid delta]

Playstation not generally a good choice bc while the hardware is ok (but not great) you get locked into that game ecosystem, and no Steam or Xbox game pass etc

[lofty magnet]

I was not allowed to game when I was little so my 30 years crise was to be a newbie gamer. So bought an xbox. Have played like powerwash simulator and house flipper before on a PC but when the second powerwash come out last year I was forced to Xbox because the PC was crap

[fluid delta]

Do this: save up for a good PC, and build about a year and a half from now.. by which point the AI crisis will hopefully be over and next gen stuff will be out.

[lofty magnet]

So have dipped my toes in to games now. Have enjoyed Hogwarts Legacy, a game so diffrent from everything else I have ever played. It's like a new world that opens

[lofty magnet]

Have zero knowledge on the building part so yeah. It was Xbox or nothing

[fluid delta]

It’s easier than it looks. Or, if Microsoft doesn’t botch it and if it is as rumored, get Xbox Magnus late 2027 and you will have an actual PC from them that is a xbox as well.

If you are in US and near a Microcenter, they can assemble and test from parts as well

[lofty magnet]

Yeah thats my hope and that will be perfect and going to sale very well because of people like me.

[lofty magnet]

Live in Sweden. And here things is even more expensive because it needs to be imported

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. IF microsoft doesn’t botch it, and I have low confidence there, but we will see

[lofty magnet]

Me too. And the fact AI is ruining the prices now the hope is low. But I think they would in the long run serve them well and increase the sales big times.

[fluid delta]

heh, computers are all imported, anywhere in the world… mostly from Taiwan and South Korea.. also other places.

[tall mirage]

I got mollusks a day ago on mobile and didn't even notice

[fluid delta]

The AI bubble will pop. Microsoft has been somewhat incompetent these last years and has been drinking their own AI hype and making bad decisions as a result. That only stops once AI is mostly discredited.. which is coming IMO

[lofty magnet]

Yeah. Hopefully. Because that console is needed to bridge the gap between the hard-core gamers and the more newbie ones. To make it a more affordable gaming "pc". And make it more easy to playing.

[lofty magnet]

That's true. But Europe is Europe. And the world right now is totally chaos

[fluid delta]

yes.. well.. that’s humanity for you. times of relative calm and times of relative chaos, alternating.

will we survive? who knows? wait and see! 😁

[lofty magnet]

Yeah. And right now we are also in a technology grow spurt. Where things are unsure and that also makes things chaos. But also the leaders of the big country's. And to long of a period of peace.

The good thing is that if a global war happens its over quickly because nobody will survive

[fluid delta]

it’s complex and shouldn’t really talk about it here.

[lofty magnet]

Exactly

And thats why I worded it like I worded it

[prime depot]

What is #🏆-share-your-prestige for? Just to share where you are in game for other ppl to see?

[fluid delta]

at any rate, enjoy Cells! and if you aren’t, there’s other games too. as you already know.

[lofty magnet]

Absolutely

Its my on and off game

[fluid delta]

mostly for server roles

[lofty magnet]

Right now its on. But who knows about later in this year

[clear zenith]

Pretty much. You can also get certain roles in the server for reaching certain milestones (they're listed in the pinned messages)

[prime depot]

Oh okie

[prime depot]

Ohhhh okay I'll check the pins

[clear zenith]

Also one of the pins says something about linking your game to Discord - that no longer works. A mod manually assigns the roles based on screenshots you post there

[prime depot]

Oh yeah I see now

I just saw that pic

In pins

[lofty magnet]

I need to upgrade mine but haven't bothered about it but should do it this week atleast

[lone rampart]

[lofty magnet]

Looks like me

A grumpy blob

[clear zenith]

that is a very round frog

[gray yew]

meep

[inner maple]

“Eep! EEEEP!”

[clear zenith]

oooh the current exploration is a new one for me. looks very interesting

[real vapor]

any tips for a newbie player?

[clear zenith]

depends how new, but when you get to explorations, don't sweat about the leaderboard. a lot of people playing have been doing it for a while so they get bigger boosts that allow them to get to the top. Just worry about completing all the objectives and getting the three badges

[amber canyon]

Terrible hard. I expected a much easier time than that. Fungus is one of the ones I do find harder (but still usually top 10). Because it's an old event I guess: while I now have 9 events-worth of badges, there are players with 26 events-worth.

Tiny violin I know - you have it much harder.

[amber canyon]

I quite like it 🙂.

[amber canyon]

Mainly enjoy learning about stuff and exploring the game 🙂.

Ask questions here if you're confused about mechanics and stuff.

Nothing you can do is going to do bad things to your game, at worst it'll slow you down (although I would recommend spending Darwinium cubes carefully).

[real vapor]

Is there anything worth buying?

[amber canyon]

For cubes? Depends how many you have.

If you're very new I suggest you just collect them for a week until you decide which parts of the game you like most, and progress far enough to unlock things.

[real vapor]

I've been playing for about a week... in the primary simluation, I am at research level 22. Does that help?

[amber canyon]

My fave it is Beyond (but you might not have unlocked that yet).

[real vapor]

I have the dinosaurs and solar system and right now a human body

[amber canyon]

Ah okay, you've unlocked the 3 main Sims and events.

Primary sim:

• In terms of efficiency with Darwiniim, I think it's cheaper modules > cheaper upgrades > Augments > medium priced modules > upgrades etc
• In terms of fun, the augments are definitely best as they usually have models in the gardens.

Meso: in my opinion, if it starts feeling too slow then you can spend DW on diamond geodes (anything else is a waste); but you get a lot more return for your cubes if you wait till close to level ||50|| (because rewards scale).

Beyond: nothing much I'd recommend to spend DW on yet. Beyond mainly rewards a slow and steady playstyle anyway.

[dull pecan]

Hlo and we should not spend dw in mezo and beyond right?

And is it good to rest primary sim for dw?

[amber canyon]

I did - and would again - when they started feeling slow to me.

I also bought diamond geodes at level ||50|| in Meso. To help with the grind, and because you get a lot of DW for completing it.

I think I mainly held off spending DW in Beyond until I unlocked ||Stage II|| stars (not sure though).

[amber canyon]

Not sure about this. Not a strategy I've tried.

[dull pecan]

Ok thanks

[real vapor]

DW? Are those the pink cubes?

[dull pecan]

Yeah

[clear zenith]

I think the only way that would help is so you can upgrade the Darwinium Synthesizer 🤔

[amber canyon]

Do you get a lot of DW for resetting your primary sim?

[amber canyon]

Sorry, yes. They're called Darwinium.

[dull pecan]

Never tried

[dull pecan]

Ok

[real vapor]

What about getting mutagem and dark matter?

[clear zenith]

Not that it's too efficient. I'm currently getting one cube every 6 hours, I believe

[dull pecan]

And what is the recommended lvl of cards in both mezo and beyond?

[amber canyon]

I think you get to claim all the DW rewards for unlocking things again. Remember someone saying that. For me (late game), I can't imagine it being worth it. Unless I just wanted a fresh start anyway.

[dull pecan]

Maybe

[clear zenith]

I may be wrong, but I think the biggest sources for me are

1. upgrading dinosaurs to 10, 25, 50, etc. for mutagen
2. astronomy missions for dark matter
   Explorations are also good if you can get a high enough rank

[dull pecan]

You forgot geode which we get without ads and with ads also.

[clear zenith]

YES the one geode too, I did forget that

but I'm on Steam and don't have ads so there's almost certainly some methods I don't have access to

[dull pecan]

Oh ok np

[real vapor]

Oh I got the no ads thing for now

[amber canyon]

Id you go to the Semblance channel and type /help and pull up the cells help, there's a Meso guide with levels in. It depends on which level, and which prestige.

Beyond, whatever you can for you most effective generators

Both of those it's likely that you'll only have 2-3 generators at any one time that produce the bulk of your income, and it's only those that are 'worth' upgrading. Ofc you can upgrade the others too 🙂.

[clear zenith]

omg I'm excited for the next few explorations. tea and bees? heck yeah

[amber canyon]

You got the nanobot bee cosmetic skin? Is practically mandatory for the bees event 😁

[real vapor]

what are the codes in the singularity channel?

[amber canyon]

In game, go to the 3 bar menu in the primary sim and type them in in block capitals to get DW.

The list in wiki (search for codes) is more up to date.

[clear zenith]

mostly been saving up my logits for augmentations...but if I finish the current event I should have enough for both the extinction artifact and bees. I might just have to get them :D

[dull pecan]

Thanks a lot dude

[clear zenith]

Is it a feature or a bug that achievements only unlock more buildings in the Scientific Revolution section?

[amber canyon]

If you're intending on getting to the end of Meso (all prestiges), then the advice is to have 3+ million mutagen saved by then (so you can get the last achievement in a reasonable time).. But I think you don't need to think about it untill prestige 3-5.

[amber canyon]

I think that only Scientific Revolution has been through the garden update? I imagine we'll get more stuff in the other areas when those things get their garden update.

[gray yew]

I don’t think they’ve added in content for the other areas yet.

It does say that the “Industrial Revolution” bit is upcoming eventually, so I imagine we’ll be progressing through the ages in their respective orders.
And then…Mars, I guess.