#💬-cells-chat
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It's been a while since I made progress Beyond and Meso, but if things are still the same:
Beyond is very slow, make sure keep missions always going. Don't waste your constellation stars, and you can usually ignore any generators except the latest 3. Don't waste Dark Matter or Stardust upgrading them or their cards too much (but when it's relatively cheap, you can). Before you prestige, rank up everything to get some more Dark Matter and trait cards
Meso is quick but doing all 50 + prestige will take time. Don't waste your...blue currency? Since that was the limiting factor for me. Grab the free Geode whenever it's up
Blue currency is Mutagen
Yes it's exponential, will max on day 11
Ah, so Idea has one but not Entropy? Interesting. I see some skeleton code for up to 10, but Entropy VI seems to be complete so I wasn't sure
You don't earn some achievements or something when later you have all beyond card or ...?
Tbh, I'm not totally sure what is optimal. If you have all Time crystals and chambers, wait until day 21, hour 3, is probably best, even though you won't have any of the nodes from the new update
Wait there is an Entrppy Time chamber 6 right?
Yeah but not the time crystals
yea those are more like lin+exp
No.
Not sure, I'm only on E19 myself. You get a lootbox whenever you get a generator to a new rank (not reached by that specific generator in any prestige), including some dark matter and trait cards for that specific generator
Tf, they removed it? It was in beta....
was it? huh. well, it's not here now. The time crystal got added though.
But the cost vs production scaling is such that the older generators quickly fall behind
Ah, that explains it
🤷 I was hoping it was locked and maybe seph noticed it
Yeah you get also dw and stars when leveling up ranks until 20
Ripp, loss of e4 entropy
Yea, they changed costs of time crystal 2 as well
From 5e21 to 2e23
yeah, but time crystals benefits overwh.... actually, not sure how it's going to go. The loss of that 10000x from VI compared to the knowledge stuff.. hmm...
Oh so it maybe explain why idea over entropy production changed recently
Basically a loss of 3x metabits I'm assuming
Entropy Time Chambers are all:
MIN(max_multi, exp_scaling^MIN(2592000, seconds_this_sim) + MAX(0, flat_scaling*MIN(2592000, seconds_this_sim)))
I was on day 11 when I reset yesterday.
QuickFox was on day21+ so Im interested to know how close to Tachyon he got.
Oh so TCs are also lin+exp got it
Yep, that seems to be the 'standard'. Haven't checked Ideas yet
how many metabits u got
About 1/10th of Tachyon
Oh damn 1e29
Metabits/Knowledge are the same:
Crystal II: MIN(1000, 1.000004^MIN(1E8,seconds_this_sim) + MAX(1, (MIN(1E8, seconds_this_sim)) / 25000) - 1)
Crystal: MIN(1000, 1.000003732^MIN(1E8,seconds_this_sim) + MAX(1, (MIN(1E8, seconds_this_sim)) / 20000) - 1)
If TheQuickFox got Tachyon already, I will be irked, lol.
Good to know, saves me some digging👍
Yea a couple updates ago they were uneven, but when Beyond e29 dropped they fixed it and made them equal
Yeah. I let the day11 run for a few hours. Ended up with.
1.44e29 & 4.25e28 aka. 145 EE & 42 EE
Now back to sitting and waiting
Im going to assume the 21 day run that Sepheria, myself, and others just started will get us Tachyon at the end of it.
Oh damn, knowledge took a big hit coz of day 11
not that it matters lol
bro translated to custom but not normal
-# hello world
of course
genuinely how is custom better than normal or scientific 😭
like i get people using scientific to know the exact value of the number but custom is just normal but weird
👋
I have explained it already. Not going to again.
Use whichever notation you like
you explained the reason scientific was better not custom
-# scientific? What do i look like, a genius?
For me, custom is a simplified version of normal.
I'd suggest not to talk about this to spare you the mental pain
heh. quite.
It does often turn into a heated debate about which one people like better.
I suppose in it’s own way, it’s not unlike the Windows vs. Linux vs. MacOS “wars” of today
Did they make another change to the level requirements yesterday or did I record the data wrong?
72 was e263, beyond = e278, mollusk = e275
73 was e282, beyond = e291, mollusk = e286
74 was e295, beyond = e302, mollusk = e296
75 was e306, beyond = e311, mollusk = e304
76 was e315, beyond = e319, mollusk = e311
77 mollusk = e318
I think they did with the new update, yes. I insta-leveled to 75 bc of it, when I downloaded the update
We would both still be 75 according to the pre-Mollusk requirements. They were generous and allowed the update to get us more than just 1 level, lol.
What is Refund Reality Engine used for?
If you want to redo your reality engine purchases and research chips.
Only the first time is free. Then its 10 darwinium each time.
it goes past e308???
i thought that was the 1024 bit limit or something
limit for most games.at least
When would it be useful? Aren't we constantly upgrading the cores?
If you want to move all your research chips around each update.
Ive never done it
There is only one right way. Approved of the emperor of man. Only heretics use absurdtillion systems.
This is not a debate of opinions. Its a war against the ideocracy heresy

Send the scientific notation marines.
hmm… idk… I’m dubious about a faction that campaigns against “ideocrazy” when they can’t even spell ideocracy properly. 😆
They updated the game a year or so ago to handle above that.
I-
I live under a rock I'm sorry 😭
yea they did, they tryna make it a lil more uniform
like it was before 70
We are only as of yesterday reaching past e308 in the live version of the game.
Valid Point. Luckily i can fix that easily. We on the right side of history can always adapt and overcome.
Ohh cuz of the mollusk
….. “Adapt”, not “Adept”.. the latter is the name of an awesome class in Mass Effect. Tsk.
That thing is so good for entropy production
You saw nothing
Your Jedi Mind Tricks will not work on me!!!
Tell us what percentage of Tachyon you got? 😃
I got enough to buy the Tachyon Funnel with something to spare. I left my PC autoclicking all night and did some time warping. I'll reset and cash out tomorrow and start a new empty sim run.
21 days > anything else.
Confirmed yet again 😁
Yeah, especially with the extra time crystal they added. I posted a vid yesterday if you missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U34WEzEvrqk
Playing Cells efficiently.
Oh rip u can't get tachyon, but oh well makes sense
I can. This vid was yesterday. I earned more since. If I reset now I can buy it. But I'll earn a bit more.
Oh, nice
How much u got rn
1.14 E30
SPOILER ||The little squeak from the rain frog is perfect and adorable! What a cute, angry little fella||
Niceee, u got all upgrades from E23 to E29 also left to get lmaoo so yea next run will be way higher
I cannot afford Octopus yet. Which may or may not be the final upgrade for mollusks. I won't afford it this run anyway. Tomorrow reset and then the long and boring wait for the next one.
Yup, plus from the looks of it, Automation won't really add any nodes/lvls to primary
and E30 won't really benefit it as well
So atleast until end March no real upgrade
I wonder if automation is the devs answer to nerf the 21 day empty sim strategy.
If you automatically buy after reset, you cannot wait with buying until the time crystals are full.
we never ever got even a statement if the 21 day strat is a non intended game mechanic
u guys assume it needs to get fixed
I don't think the devs intended this gameplay.
but is it a problem?
Ask the devs lol. It's not a problem to me.
yes
Loving the new Mollusk addition. Love seeing this game get bigger and bigger.
not really if they are consistent with the updates
Yeah, I had the same with the Scientific Revolution update.
Neutrino Expansion was the end game node for a very long time. Post RE reboot, they are pushing out quick updates.
I love to see that metabit and knowledge earnings are very close to each other now in my game.
perfectly balanced, as they should be
Yeah, I like the new route they've taken after Reality Reboot.
ts ancient
Now thats a throwback
Making me feel like a noob for only being here since 2022 😄
2022 is still kinda old, before stone age update, reboot, etc
btw this was beta v0.4
this was beta v0.32 launched in January 2018
and finally this is beta v0.2 launched in December 2017, it says v0.3, but it isn't
At which point did they rename the game from "From Cells to Singularity" to "From Cell to Singularity"?
around the v0.4 mark
it was actually called “divine tech tree - from cells to singularity” in v0.2, “cells to singularity” in v0.32, and “cell to singularity” in v0.4
it was “evo” in v0.2, “extropy” in v0.32, and “entropy” in v0.4
NOW THOSE ARE OLD SCREENSHOTS LOL
Devs look away 
But also make that world a logics reward
i might actually know the most info about old cell to singularity
I started playing when the mammal expansion happened
I do remember it was called extropy before
Same but I lost my acc 🥀 🥀
Same
I reinstalled the app and locked in when the beyond first came out
I forgot about c2s until reality reboot 😭
I'm both a newgen and an og at the same time 💔
Real
I hadn't played in nearly a year so I lost my old account
I had beyond episode 20 in that account
But not I'm 25 lol
I lost my second acc a while ago
I can finally zoom out to the milky way 🔥
Ts new one I finally uploaded to the cloud and saved
REAL the beyond is so peak
Also, speaking of beyond, is the orion nebula supposed to be as big as it is
It even outshines rigel bro 😭
I am not dead
Not to be then ... 😐
You need to reboot the matrix
Now it's like the invisible pink unicorn
Hi I'm trying to load my save from Android onto Steam, but the save it loaded is several days behind my current, how do I get my most current version on to Steam?
are dwarinium or smthing and logits ok to spend on anything that gives perma bonuses?
<@&535129309648781332> I need to privately discuss an exploit I've found. Not sure who to ask.
you can email support to pass it on 
Or dm Cells Support

ty!
For a moment, I thought the scammers were back again
Heh, sorry about that. I totally overlooked the Cells Support thing. I'm pretty tired atm.
hopefully it's not the infinite darwinium one
Not going to discuss details with anyone but Cells' staff
I will say that I am going to rethink continuing in the game. I need a break anyway.
is it the infinite darwinium one tho
not asking for any of its details
I said what I said.
uhh can someone help
why do both say the last time i played was yesterday
Huh. Well.. which one is your current one? Use that.
i JUST played like 2 hours ago
both are incorrect
Well.. then... pick one, then load from within the game, your most recent save.... is what I'd try. And maybe turn off Steam saves.
my most recent save was about 3 days ago 😭
i better not lose progress or i genuinely might lose motivation to continue the game
the latest one is the local one, do i pick that?
those saves are more recent.. probably one of them is an autosave of your most recent save, but I have no way of knowing. You might perhaps make a 2nd Steam account and use that as a place to store a test save
idk which save is your correct save.
like i said both are incorrect
they say the last time i played was yesterday which is wrong
have to tried, 1st, verifyin files on steam?
i literally sent screenshots of my gameplay in the chat today
what?
But this is where the value of using Cells' cloud save is very useful. It lets me go between iPad and Steam whenever I want (except the week after an update, when versions are different)
i only save about once a week
that's on you then
verify integrity of game files
problem has not been fixed
steam cloud literally said it was working fine every time i opened the game
i use same steam acc pc/laptop .. sometimes it gives me cloud error, i just do that verify n normally fixes it
What I've said is all the help I know how to give, about this. Sorry.
it didnt fix it for me
Verification of the game files verifies the game itself, not the save.
which one of the 2 saves would you pick tho
local is more recent but isnt online better?
yup, but somehow whenever i get that cloud sync going from laptop to pc/vice-versa, that verify fixes it 
@fluid delta if i did lose some progress but i have some sort of proof in here could i get it back?
remember when a few hours ago i sent an image of the knowledge upgrade menu, is that enough evidence?
local is just local cuz it still hasn't been saved "online" ... whichever one is the most recent should be the better one
so i would pick local xD
ykw im restarting my pc
!!!!! @fluid delta Do you remember me???? I'm unique!!! Remember the bug about the screen size? I fially fixed it myself by deleting the tab as the fullscreen which refixed the screen
hi, is it ok if I spend dwarinium cubes or smthing and logits on any perma bonus?
If they're perm ones they defintly tend to be more worth to spend on i'd think
fuck the steam problem is still there
broooo i really dont want to lose any progress
i JUST completed the music event
Of course. You have to decide how you spend your currencies. Compare your options on what you can afford and make a choice.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN UNKOWN
OH HELL NAW
uhhh the cloud fixed itself?
alright so my progress seems to be working fine now
genuinely what the hell just happened 😭
why did the save thing even happen
why care if it's fixed?? 
the steam cloud said it was synced normally
because if the steam cloud said it synced but it still didnt then it could happen again
and for some reason the cloud literally fixed itself without me even picking anything
delays between systems happen... then glitches (plenty unlockable ones in game
)
"sir... have you tried rebooting your computer" - said the IT tech support on the otherside of the world comes to mind in this situation 🤣
i did restart my pc and the problem still persisted for about 10 minutes
so it had nothing to do with that
damn it... well...
maybe the update messed up some saves?
was still hilarious in my mind 
bro non-empty sim runs are NOWHERE close to the 7d empty sim run i did
the empty sim run gave me SEPTILLIONS worth of knowledge while this one cant even get 10 sextillion (basically normal only gives less than 0.5% of empty sim runs)
if the 7 day empty sim run was that good then time to give the 21 day one a try
@swift heron If your game is fine now, make a crossplatform save.
i did
at 7 days the total boost is about 1335x so this tracks
holy the total boost grows so fast i need to put this on a log graph
what
lol
isnt wang chuanfu a scam account
if i accept the message request will my pc blow
@white egret
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY OF THIS GUY!?
dude you arent actually wang chuanfu
im just using translate
why the fuck would we 😭
oh no, this again no
bro its over 😭
!ban 1248774694837162090 scammer
Banned wwang_chuanfu1357 (Case #4278) (user notified with a direct message)
how come this server is being specifically targeted by the same bot account?
!ban 1468359898847772775 scammer
Banned wangchuanfu0586 (Case #4279) (user notified with a direct message)
the one in the current chat is still alive
!ban 963512220468256848 scammer
"If you can trust me, this really will help you. I changed my personal information simply because those scammers who used my information also want to be punished here." -translated
Banned wangchuanfu._1 (Case #4280) (user notified with a direct message)
!ban 955615684539330640 scammer
Banned wangchuanfu1_ (Case #4281) (user notified with a direct message)
Keeps making new accounts every day. So persistent.
so he's saying that he changed his account info because the people that use those info get banned
!ban 1462131453071720631 scammer
Banned wangchuanfu.ev (Case #4282) (user notified with a direct message)
!ban 1469102026997633207 scammer
Banned wangchuanfu0081 (Case #4283) (user notified with a direct message)
that's the stupidest logic ive ever seen
hes obv just trying to get people to trust him so he can scam them
this happens to me for say that 
yeah i know but i meant like
if he knows that the people who put that information get banned, then why did he do it to "not get banned"
and who the fuck are you 😭
Could the scammers at least try to impersonate someone that people have ACTUALLY HEARD OF BEFORE!?!?
could they atleast try to not use the same username and description as the guy who got banned like 20 times
isnt there a way to make it so that if anyone with a very similar username and description joins they get banned automatically?
or maybe IP ban wang chuanfu instead of a normal ban?
Oh my god
Its the scammer boss
idk why he keeps trying the same stuff it clearly doesnt work
It’s multiple people, obviously.
wait this whole time it's the same guy not a group of people?
im just guessing
why dont the mods add a bot that bans alt accounts bro
@woven yew this account is now online lol, maybe hes checking which ones have been killed
real people also have alts
And it’s hard to tell if someone has an alt if their alt is very different then their main.
i should've rephrased my sentence better,i meant a bot that bans your alt accounts IF one of them gets banned from the server (to prevent them from using the alt to avoid the ban)
😭
ah yeah true
the bots that tell which account is the alt dont check their profile or how their account looks
they like use ip bans or something
So if a (fictional, for this scenario) person has an account impersonating Dwayne Johnson, and another account that looks like an E-girl, how is this bot supposed to know that they’re owned by the same person?
yeah thats true when i was in highschool someone kept getting ip banned from a discord server, so i couldnt join it lmao
i genuinely dont see any reason as to not add this
maybe one reason is if a sibling in the house gets banned the otherwill also get banned from CTS server?
wait can people even get banned from this server for any reason except beta leaking and scamming?
even like a hardware ban would also work, idk if discord has that info tho
i dont know how the bot works bro but i just know that it does
Even leaking beta won’t get you banned.
i meant repeated offenses
like come on someone who has leaked beta like 3 times
cuantos planetas hay en total en el mundo del universo?
when you join a server it checks your v6 ip and if its in a ban list it bans you
why would i know how the bot works
all i know is ive seen it in many servers and it DOES work
Yeah there’s some people who have done that in this server
im pretty sure its the v6 ip
#🇪🇸-español
yes that's what i assumed it did
and they havent been banned?
Nope.
nor blacklisted from the beta chat?
No.
how the hell
or future content leaks
or dataminers
por favor, para hablar español, ve a #🇪🇸-español
sampe
may i ask why the devs havent added a bot that bans alt accounts in this server if another account related to it is banned?
considering there have been a ton of wang chuanfu accounts
i mean those are different levels of leak tho, like a datamined leak is worse since its "less" public knowledge
i dont think wang chuanfu is smart enough to use vpns considering him (or his scam group) have been using the same trick over 10 times
it takes like 3 whole google searches to datamine instead of looking in #🚪-how-to-join-beta
thats alot of work!
what im trying to say is, one of the main reasons people argue against adding these types of bots is because if someone in their house gets banned, so will they
but the conditions for getting banned in this server are very few and very rare
so genuinely why not?
but the devs or one of the mods have definitly thought of this idea before and suggested it
probably
so did they have a reason to not add it or?
maybe? we cant know for sure
I'm moderator, but is Aditya and Devs who decided what bot to use. I recommend you to talk with Aditya by DM
i assume the devs dont open their dms much so i thought it wouldve been better if a mod sugegsted this idea
Okay, I will do it later, it's 0:39 here
Anyways, Cells support and Aditya usually read DM
Ok thanks
I asked cell support so we'll see if they respond
Does the leaderboard include beta players or just non beta players?
Ahhh okay, pre-update it used to contain both right?
as far as i know its been this way for a while
how much time do I need to get it to max
its 21 days for the crystals
damn I prefer to reset since I can buy the next one
1.000003732^(seconds_this_sim) + MAX(1, (seconds_this_sim) / 20000) - 1 >= 1000
I don't think there's an algebraic solution, so you have to solve it analytically
As you can see, that means around 21 days, 3 hours, 7 minutes
I think the 2nd crystal is 19d18h51m43s
On a different note, I think the event badges are bugged for me?
I started with 35%, got another, and now the popup lists 40%...but the header still denotes 35%, and the generator amounts did not update either
I tried buying a generator and switching sims to no avail
Ah, I see it's already known: https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1456106826876846080
the first badge gives 5% thats why you got from 35% to 40%
there isnt an algebraic solution cause you need the lambert w function
hold on ill send the actual formula
Aye, but the 'bug' is that going from 35% to 40% didn't actually change anything in the sim other than 'badge rank bonus' popup
As the link I found notes, this is because any badges earned DURING the event don't apply, only ones you earned BEFORE the event. So next time this one rolls around I'll have it
its not a bug its a feature, its only meant to effect events after
where did you get 20k from?
the multiplier is 5E-5, same as a divisor of 20000
oh lmao youre right
hold on ill brb, you asked for something about fills needed before right?
like on reboot or something
Yeah, this
Seems to increase by Simulation Level (i.e. # of reboots done)
I've done 112 resets, and it's at 154, so maybe it's as simple as resets+42? 🤷♀️
do you get any primary simulations perks by progressing in beyond
yeah, i forget the exacts but if you look in the reality engine to the left of the engine there are some boosters
i only play meso and primary simulation because playing beyond is so slow
its worth it id say, also its more gameplay
maybe its this did you spend them?
or try to upgrades something with the bits
you should play all daily to get far
Reality Engine perks:
Galactic Globetrotter: Ideas * 1 + 0.05x per unique Beyond generator
Expanse Explorer: Entropy, Ideas * 1 + 0.05x per Beyond Rank (i.e. Episode/prestige)
There are probably more
It's definitely slow though
f\left(x\right)=\left\{x<100:3+\operatorname{floor}\left(x\cdot.95\right),x<150:3+\operatorname{floor}\left(x\cdot1.35\right),3\right\}
ty
discord was gonna mess up the formatting so heres the formula
Thanks!
In a way, Meso goes to 550 because you can prestige it 10 times.
Wait, so after 150 reboots it just drops to 3? That seems rather strange
So it...tries to force a minimum level of progress for the first 100 reboots, and a higher requirement for the next 50
Then figures if you could get 200 or so fills per run you're probably fine so spam as much as you like and gives up
it shouldnt cause in my old save I got to the last thing you can buy on mars and I was at less than 30 reboots
I guess that's...fine? At any rate that seems like a low bar to clear so I don't think I have to worry about it
Oh well, no softlock no problem 🤷♀️
Incidentally, what did you use for this? Desmos?
yeah desmos
Oh, by the way: leaving another sim open (Event, maybe meso/beyond as well?) instead of the primary sim makes this stack at double rate
So playing the event for 2h gets you +4h in primary sim
nice
what the hell
we didnt learn ts in school
what is Eta
the E with t and a
yea
everyone has
algebra starts at 4th grade but im not used to variables not being X and Y
yea ik
im using E as like exponent (even tho its the base) and t_a as time adjusted
and then K has no meaning its just usually a multiplier
Yo
sup
There’s 550 Extinctions in the Mesozoic Valley, and 29 Episodes in the Beyond. Do with that information what you will.
Not sure if they made Beyond faster now, but I finished Meso before Beyond 18
Beyond also works, but they've fixed this in the next release, so it no longer works on Steam. Mobile has another week or so.
i dont see it in the fixes?
let me double check
nope it hasnt been fixed im pretty sure
ok checked and it hasnt been fixed
shoud i leak episode 30 update
Odd. https://old.reddit.com/r/CellToSingularity/comments/1qvtpdu/survivors_of_the_ancient_sea_mollusks/o3l25dl/
They updated after I saw that, and said it still seems to happen in Event, but I guess not in Beyond/Mesozoic.
I assumed they were correct because they found it first.
the bug happens when you go from any sim to the primary sim
i never found it to trigger when going to other sims
Leak it in the #i-want-to-get-banned channel
pov u lied it not real
(i mean its cause theres some specific triggers that make it happen when you go to primary, like if they just didnt add those itd be fine)
thers no #i-want-to-get-banned channel
posting leaks and datamined content is against the rules
there were some other unshown fixes but nothing about this one that i can find
No clue. I won't have the update for a week, but since that person found the idle and 2x bugs first, I'm inclined to trust their statements.
Check beta chat or no
i mean im in game right now and i can see its still happening
Mollusks update definitely didn't fix it, I saw that the 2x time thing still is happening.
@fluid delta I like your idea about taking a break. At the moment, we only need to play for an hour each time we hit 21 days, so its a good time for it.
Taking breaks is good. I did this with the explorations. I went in all crazy from day one trying to get in the top 10 with challenge 4 stuff. Took me way too much time. Now I just leave it and play the exploration on the last day and I get the same rewards.
Agree with you
weird lookign potater
Does anyone know if the Cells team designs the 3D models of the animals themselves or if they are just a set of Unity assets? Or perhaps a mix of them?
My reason is kinda nonstandard. I can’t count my own progress as non-cheating anymore, even if I didn’t look to cheat, and I’m expending all this effort to get… what? The competitive aspect is now gone. So… it has triggered me to reassess why I play and so maybe I am done with this game for now. Idk, too tired atm to make a sound decision. I’ll think more on it tomorrow.
I also can’t say I’m thrilled with the much more money-focused nature of the game since the revamp.. the need to buy (or otherwise acquire) darwinium on a regular basis has been way more… insistent by design, perhaps? So that’s something that suggests maybe I should stop playing.
Idk. I’ve given CL money several times + the ad income from all the ads I’ve watched. In return I’ve had fun.. which is a fair trade. But.. I might be done. I’m certainly rambling now.. so, off to sleep I go.
Probably a mix of both.
Sleep does sound like a good idea. That work thing in the morning always creeps up on me 😃
what?
im only like halfway through the event?
and division 91 is still an early division
Hm, I'll surely miss you.
But the amount of time per day I've seen you here can be taxing for the rest of your life as well. Take a good night sleep. You can think of it tomorrow.
you mightve gotten an empty lobby
hm even then there should be more bots
i dont see any reason to completely quit the game unless you feel obliged to play it or are addicted to it
maybe you could reduce your playtime, play the game more casually instead of competitevly
but quitting the game completely doesnt feel worth it
i just got pushed back from 7th to 8th
so there are players in this division
such a cutie 
there seems to be some sort of interpolation and bots for leaderboard scores if it can fill a division up to 500
progress for today
Wait is this out already?
Yesterday on Steam. Next week for mobile.
Are there more of these achievements? I wanna get them all if not
Ok, I am on mobile so I was confused.
aww
is singularity supposed to not have adcheviments for it?
whats the purple one?
theres until under 2 mins i think
no no, i mean for how much you get of it like the rovers and age of stone and everything, in game adchivment that gives yous darwin
these
is the question how much darwin each give?
yeah everythings there except the singularty, it used to be inbetween the rover and the emergent age
i guess they just took that one out, cause ive seen it there before
btw this doesnt work
yeah it hasnt for a while
to get roles post images of your stats in #🏆-share-your-prestige
Oh ok
mollusca
Yes, it was removed. Shortly before I first got past 800 singularities. I was not amused.
guys, who knows what the hell, after dropping to the 6th prestige in the Mesozoic valley, geodes unrealistically began to lag
I get it.
Personally I don't feel like there's that much reason to continue. It's not like we'll get to the end, and (while deliberate) it feels like no benefit to being a long term player: we could stop playing for a year and pick it up again and be back near the top in a short time.
And I still don't like the meta and the bugginess.
(but it's been fun, so similarly no complaints on that cf the money I spent).
Why am I still in 666 after 3 months
cause youve been cheater marked lol
theres more (if u join alpha or beta reality reboot early before its initial release)
is it better to finish all missions before you reset with meteor in mesozoic valley?
Doesn't really matter.
The reward for completing a mission is a stone geode. Which you can get for free every 4 hours (2 every 4 hours, if you can use ads).
imo, it's worth it if you can do it in reasonable time (and not "collect tons of currency for several days")
ok
i guess they got a bit lazy...
What does it mean to get "cheater marked"?
How can I avoid this?
if you dont cheat youll be fine
EXPLORE
Dishonesty
theres cheats???/
well like you can cheat at any video game?
i mean
time skipping is the most common one
ohhh
you just change the time of your computer to be in the future to get gains
i kinda used to do that
lol
guys did you know that if you swap the initials of reality reboot you get reality reboot
I have to agree with a normal notation heretic here (Mark).
You can just take it more chill. I mean u are more than finished with the game and have everything stacked for the next 3628 updates. You can finish events in no time and with all the badges.
No need to yeet it out of the window. Just play some other games mainly and do cells as a side hussle.
Could also do less discord.
This should be in the cats event
Sorry for drowning out your message with my image 😔
All good. He asleep anyways 
Oh lol



yes
Beyond phase 2 divided into two equal parts:
Ep18 - Ep28 (3/2 years)
Ep28 - Ep30 (estimate, 3/2 years)
No offense but that's it lol
Also 3/2 means 1.5 years, I just didn't feel like using decimals
chat
i have idea
explore: memes
"how can humans find laughter or nostalgia from a simple dog image to a white grinning face?"
"how have these things evolved over time? and how frequently do memes appear now?"
the max is 1e(2e32)
or ig ~9.99...e(2e32)
reminds me of the "history of cat memes" video
it would reflect on how memes kept getting more and more abstract till they eventually became sloppish gibberish to the normal person
and how they kept becoming more and more frequent
to the point where we currently get a new meme every day or 2 days
and in like another decade it would become multiple a day
idk abt abstract, the abstract era was really around 2016 with "E", id say they're more referential now
"when i lowkirkenuinely stop hitting obleik so it reaches the flow state 🥹"
what would this sentence mean to a normal adult (yes this is a real sentence from a yt short i found)
yeah its referential, but not abstract
Tuff
its like conflating post modernism with contempery work
modern meme humour (post 2022ish) has relied on the feeling of "in-groupness"
ofc before then it still needed/had references, but they wont the centre point
first image from project giga will be out soon
dinosaur simulation tree image with resolution of 60,000 x 60,000 resulting to 3.6 gigapixel image
About the time they started being deliberately created and used in political/cultural/actual wars. According to a talk I went to a bit ago.
the like 2019-2022 era of memes (reddit type if you wanna call em) were more on a global scale (still america focused ill say),like: "area 51", "covid 19" even like early whenthe
before that it was abstract: "here come dat boi","E","beans"
early 2010s was music focused? or at least it seemed like it
this is true, altho politics and culture will always be inside the cultural phenomenon
here come dat boi was 2016 which is insane to me, i thought it was older
earliest meme is hard to pin point but i would like to say the smiley face is a strong contender
it was like arpnet i think?
Think that's a common 'what was the first meme' answer. No idea myself.
Assuming we're meaning online-memes?
if we say pre internet counts then itd be some ad jingle maybe?
yeah thats what im thinking
Lol. Same thinking.
atp we could just say "whats the earliest joke" which isnt really the question
(itd be a joke about some guys wife farting dating to like 4kBC egypt)
I was thinking about children's songs/rhymes. They spread quite far.
Some guy who sold copper who had a farting wife. It was on the next clay tablet. Truth.
lol
dancing baby gif is the oldest video meme (or one of) but not the oldest meme itself
Tring to remember what was around in 1997 (when I got my first email address). Mainly p_rn I think.
oh the smiley was 1982 not even on arpanet
lol true
Ea Nasir?
not much has changed since then
There's more bots. That's changed.
ig this makes sense
there must have been something before 1982 tho
ig the internet just wasnt big enough for there to be a meme
all your base are belong to us is 9 years too late
I remember reading the Selfish Gene and liking the idea of memes as cultural transmission of information/behaviours/norms etc.
anything older than 1982 would have to be in ascii since there just wouldnt be widespread image sending capability
Hello World maybe?
true, unsure how mematic it is tho
there has to be some kind of divide between joke and meme
but it seems blurred in the past
Yeah. Depends on the boundaries of the definition.
I wouldn't say it was a joke though.
inside joke?
well ig all memes are inside jokes
so ig hello world would date back to the first coding language that could "output" "text"
These days memes seem much more likely to be joke-related.
I think Hello World was more a ... I d'know. In-group signifier?
For - in my case - people who'd started learning to program (in BASIC on a BBC 😁)
its the first thing a programmer sees so it makes sense its so widespread
But feels like us thinking 'memes are internet related, so things that are computer related might also be memes'.
eh? (before this it says C used it in 1974 and a programming language called B in 1972)
yeah true, but really the first people to use the internet were computer nerds
so there just is alot of overlap
Probably the definition of meme has changed so much it's impossible to pin down tbh.
true, actually going by wikipedias definition it seems alot of things are memes, quite broad
> "thing that spreads across the internet"
> packets are memes because they spread across the internet
QED
now i understand why my 120,000 x 120,000 image didnt load
going by biology's "memetic" this is perfect, since packets normally copy and reproduce
Reminds me of the story about the Chinese(?) emperor who kept wanting larger and larger maps of the country. Until finally the country was the map.
watch out some of those might be non compressing formats (is that the right word?)
lol
like a format that just gives out raw data (non encoding makes more sense)
its fine
i would be fine as long as they can be open and see
itd be alot of data tho
my guess for beyond is 20,000 x 300,000
4 bytes for each pixel (ish) at 3.6million pixels is a shit ton
last image was 4k x 60k
so 5 time size would end up 20k x 300k
but its just guess
could be bigger
becouse 20k x 300k only reach to 6 g.p.
wich isnt much bigger then 3.6g.p. of dino image
my priority would be matching the nods/ genrator size for alll 3 at 1 to 1 scale as best as possible
ok here was the comparison of primary and beyond
hummm
from this
beyond and main sim will kinda be same in size
hi
It feels like Beyond is a lot wider than that, in relation to primary.
i have a question beacause i dont know if i should reboot
ik it does its weird
If it's feeling slow, then you prob want to reboot. Unless you're late/end game and doing min-maxing.
i have 140qi entopy meta bits and really struggle on getting mollusks but if i reboot i will be able to get maximum 2 or 3 upgrades that dosent seem significant
Duck
Pc rebooted on its own
Post some unsaved progress in image
i genuinely question if the devs didnt intend for the empty sim run strategy then what the hell did they intend for
after only doing a 7d empty sim run my normal runs give literally less than 0.5% the value as the empty one
and i can barely get any progress with the normal ones
Ah, I'm on Android so don't know the detail of Molluscs (it's not out yet), sorry.
What garden is producing income for you?
Reboot.
beyond seems to cover less area than primary
(top is primary, bottom is beyond)
hm i might have to do a bit more checking on this
i dont have the original graph so ill have to take new measurements
for ideas age of exploration and for entropy its amaphabians and eukaroyic cells
Thans a lo t
This is the first time I get three fragments of constelation, it always gives me one :0
Are there Prestiges for the Beyond like with Mesozoic Valley?
no not currently
Phew
Hopefully soon
we gotta see E30 (and maybe whats after) tho
I checked in the Beta chat
And it seems that E30 is ||the entire observable universe||
oh no yeah ive seen the leaks n stuff
yeah, there were like some small plans for E31 but i dont think theyd fit with a pre prestige direction
Because it's not like Semblance is omniscient
im assuming beyond prestige is either gonna:
be super boring and just go from 1-30 again
OR be the leaked E31, E32 stuff and so on
I know that was the old beta but ngl it looks like a really big jump
you can see it in the image tho
Also ||on the tiktok you could very clearly see hercules and shapley supercluster in all the beyond tiktoks||
anyone can recognize it as the background radiation
Yea
Also zooming out past like 6 Gpc gives you "observable universe" as the name of the zoom level
Although we knew that back in ep 28
||what rank are those? i can see hercules is 24||
OH WAIT SHAPLEY IS A CARD???
also im pretty sure ||automation|| is the next update there needs to be a bit more proof before any more guesses tho
lol wut? what gen
It's in the trailer atleast
cause ||hercules|| is rank 24
yeah
Hercules supercluster
am i thinking of the wrong thing?
ah right
I remember you telling me to not take these for granted
@here helloooo cells chat!! 👋 The Mollusks update is out on steam!! how we feeling? how we groovin? 🐚
in approx. 2 hours (11:30am EST) im gonna be dragging some of the devs into the chat to talk about the update and all the critters that come with it 🙂 this is just a casual hang so feel free to drop in and talk to us in a bit!
Ok
incells
W
Ok
Wow
TUFF
W
uh oh
Sure!
wawa
mollusc
New!
really cool
W
baza
pleasee devv i need this im kinda shapley-superclusterless
what have you done
moskslsusks
the chat has awaken..
h
.
wahooo
MOSKSSLLUSSKKSK
in-cells
bazziinga
bru
Oh MY GOD
what about mobile tho
hi
Yay!
IS ON STEAM NOW?
MOlUSK
Cool info
that isnt the thornring. is it?
BRO
What
molluscs are super expensive
Also what the hell
Wait i know what im gonna ask already
Is my name
good talk photographer i think it isnt gonna happen anymore lol
23.45 thoo...
MORE NEW STUFF FOR THE SIMULATION TREE
Peak
but good things are always expensive
it’ll be out on 2/10
so
bro it dropped like 2 days ago
fu** ***
Bumps a lot
takes ~1 week for the google and apple staff to approve the update
homorio
We gotta get more info on the ep29 balance changes
why would u ping everyone i here
cue 1k people leaving the server
WTF
wait
:D ok
what?
Im curious af and theyre seemingly not listed
fr
All I see is spam
survival of the fittest
Fr lmfao
i love it. keep this energy going for when the devs join 
afaik they didnt change beyond much between mollusc (besides the small balances)
no crap everyone ping does that generally
Mollusks murdered them
because i work here and can do that
achievment
fair
how many ppl did it say on the ping warning
My ass thought a drama was coming
sure
Can you not-
That was just a matter of time
why for some resson chat is not active
132k people were pinged
Here ping 💀
nah only 8k
maybe 100k ok
Makes sense
isnt it like everyone?
Here ping in a chat everyone can access is the same as everyone no?
no
I just entered the app
If she'd ping everyone it would be absolute chaos
no
everyone online
hi
theyre npcs and that functionality wasnt coded in + youre in a simulation
I know what were doing today
here doesn't
yo how to put off my vr
my vr suit
i love causing chaos
Im gonna head canon that maddy got dared to ping here by one of her co workers until i get proof
Fair
bro e=what
What is GOING ON HERE!!!!
ghost ping
Mollusks just need that i guess
nope it’s my job to do that
(at)everyone despite the negative cells covfefe
@maddy https://klipy.com/gifs/naruto-kakashi-47 Ping of death
Here ping actually
are u a cat by any chance
Well, let's be happy the bet wasn't to ping everyone
and then say nothing
i don’t think so
How does this question make any sense
well you did put hype master in ur bio for a reason
More here pings coming soon 👀?
are you edible
I don't see ping in my inbox, All pings in my inbox are from other discord servers
maybe
STOP PINGING NOW!!!!!
If you think about it. If you try hard enough, ANYTHING is edible
I thought do not disturb would do the job no??
We already stopped a few mins ago
i guess yea aren’t we all
it was 1 ping
but dont be doin that
scrumptious
Lets ping again or no balls
@tropic moon
yes
but whyy
everyone this time
Me when I click on notif expecting to see robot kissing update
I have refugee
use the mentions category
At least
Oh i see this is ping
what.
KEEP THIS ENERGY ROLLIN YALL
They should let us kiss the robots
I was literally editing the updates tree lmao
wow rude
u shouldnt say that
the boiling point of water is 100c
Ping everyone, we dare you
Hard,,
I SAID FOLLOW THE RULES NOW!
my existence is to say random things
What if we uh roll off... A cliff
why.... why did you ping is in the general channel and not the announcements...
WHY!!!!!!!!
would it even matter
internal strategy
idk
after all we're just sentient non-mollusk shaped mollusks
@marsh sleet Well, I hope this satisfies you
Imma get back to tree editing
@worn kernel #💬-cells-chat message
No I want to see the robots do it
They should gain the ability for love
exactly
cells support still hasnt replied to my wang chuanfu exterminator idea
Well we gotta ban him!!!
chat where's the ping
upwards
up there
just scroll for a bit youll find it
ah i see
i wouldnt expect the ping to be like to the side
didn't see it in mentions:@me, mb
aw :(
Did bro just got...
well it’s goin in there anyway
wiped
quick question, how does the ranking on the events work? I dont believe I am 5th in the world when there are 5k people playing
@worn kernel keep as this a secret.
💀
no i want hype
There are multiple divisions
there are divisions, you can see your division ID at the top of the leaderboard
the higher you div number, the later you joined
oh ok and you know how many poeple per divison?
1000 i think
im not sure
1000
heeeelo @worn kernel@worn kernel
♥️
and when you finish the event for example on place 9th, can someone beat you?
its 500, the rest are bots
the skys the limit
you need to keep your position until the end of the event
you can do challenge levels
which is about 3 days from now
i got timed out cause i used at here in a sentence (i thought theyd have turned it off or smth)
but when you can't upgrade anything how do you keep position
btw when did fungi start
damn i suck
cuz like i kinda dont wanna get into a tryhard group
you can replay the event once youve completed it once
whats your science rn?
Maddy said he wants hype.
each time it gets harder
hello!
hiii
havent started the event yet, hounding for a higher div num
hello hi hello
ok makes sense, you get any boosts for that or just ups the position?
ah right
just ups the position
bet, thanks
well for this event if you have <800 science you are worse than a bot!
This is a ping hype!
by the end? or do they scale too
@amber canyon @polar viper @swift heron @warm lodge @dry cairn To those who responded to me directly here and so might be curious as to what I have to say.. I've had some sleep and had some time to consider things. I've decided to continue in the game, flaws and all. While Beyond, Meso, Events have been 100% solid, I can't say the same thing for Primary and Reality Engine since the revamp. IMO there's real flaws with it as designed and also how it's been implemented in practice. Nothing that can't be fixed, mind you (and I believe I know how, from the design standpoint if not the actual coding), but while those flaws are there, I will feel no guilt for using anything I come across, to progress. The game is as it is, and I'm playing it on that basis. That's my 2c, atm. Now.. onto cheesing more levels 🙂
shroom event is in my experience the easiest event so like people are gonna get high challenge levels
@sullen joltyeah
Hey so uhh it's cool that the giant calmar have found it's home within mollusks area but why it's still not connected to any node?
nope, well sometimes you can get like 502 humans to a division but other than that it doesnt change
Nice i catch a Kyogre XD
what are the flaws according to you im curious
You mean blue sea dragon
you buy it for 14e34 $ ?
ah okay
That'll take more explanation. I plan to write up something about that.
like my only complaint really is time crystals, as like one of two of them are okay but once you get a lot of them you are basicly required to wait a few dayhs beetwen reboots
i actually have 504 humans in my division (so its like 790 is the limit of the bots? idk)
i guess might as well bring that one up in the convo with devs
There really shouldn't be any time nodes in the game at all.
devs have gotta balance crystals
yea



