💬-cells-chat

[tall mirage]

#💬-cells-chat message

[fluid delta]

nods.. yeah, if someone knows it, that person isn't me.

[tall mirage]

Like here

@amber canyon pls tell the eq. for Time crystal growth

[fluid delta]

Heh, Kf can't, they aren't running on the current update

[tall mirage]

Yea, but I can plug in my values from this update

and see if they are same as last one or faster

[fluid delta]

Ah. True. That's an option. It won't tell you the equation, but it is something, sure

[tall mirage]

Yea, but I can estimate when they are going to max out

[fluid delta]

Plus, we don't know if the Crystals cap, there's a visual (we assume) bug

[tall mirage]

They cap out at 1001x

I know the time crystals are faster than before, coz i was at day 23 before rebooting (this is after dec update)

and my time crystal was maxed

2nd one obviously no clue

[fluid delta]

So you've capped out the crystals after this recent update already?

[tall mirage]

My sim was at day 23 before the update dropped

After update, I checked the values for the chambers and crystals

My time crystal was maxed out at 1001x and I was only on day 23

But before update, time crystal for Kf maxed out at 1000x on day 31 hr 17

All of this is in-game time

[fluid delta]

And you don't have the 2nd Time Crystal yet?

[tall mirage]

I couldn't buy the time crystal on the day update dropped

So I had to reboot

Now I have both and currently my time is at 5d 13hr

[fluid delta]

nodnod

Well, if you are 100% right about what you've been saying, you should be able to overtake me in a couple weeks?

[tall mirage]

Nope, I haven't even bough reality nexus, unified theory

I was way behind u before update

[amber canyon]

If any use, this 🙂

[tall mirage]

And I have a paltry 110 badges, you have 4x mine

[fluid delta]

You will catch up though, if it's a couple months before Mollusks (which idk, that's a total guess, but it does seem like they're getting out Beyond 29 first)

Hmm yeah, badges are a good point

[tall mirage]

#💬-cells-chat message

I meant the eq. for time crystal node multi vs time

[tall mirage]

What I meant was, after u get GE, don't reboot and let your sim run for 20ish days atleast

[fluid delta]

Yeah, for sure, that is my plan.

GE won't be soon though.. I'm fairly sure on that.. Mollusks might even drop first

[tall mirage]

then don't reboot your current sim until beyond 29 drops

Just to see how far can you go with just 1 reboot, can u reach 25EE in just a month with no reboots? Would be fun to test, considering only u can

[fluid delta]

Yes, 25EE seems plausible, yeah 🙂

[tall mirage]

You never know, you reached 3.7EE in 9 days with knowledge time crystals at 60x

[amber canyon]

Sorry!

[tall mirage]

Thanks 🙏

[fluid delta]

Yeah, true. And I hope I'm remembering that 60x right. I know it was double digits though.

[tall mirage]

Either ways would be fun to test if u can't get GE before mollusks due to time constraint

[amber canyon]

I don't have much data from the current version: I only had the Time Crystals 1 and both were at 1000/1001 when I updated.

[tall mirage]

@fluid delta You should note down your knowledge this time after 9 days to see how much knowledge efficiency was boosted from 3.7EE

[fluid delta]

yes, I plan to!

[tall mirage]

Yea I had the same but I was only at 23d

Before update, it took u 31d 17hr iirc

[amber canyon]

Remember all my times were irl time.

[tall mirage]

Nah that 31d 17hr was in-game one, it was in the image

Irl time u mentioned was <30d

#💬-cells-chat message
I meant this

@fluid delta Btw, if I go by Kf's formula for before update, my time crystals should have a multiplier of 29x after 13d 3hr

But they reached a multi of 29x after 5d 13hr after update

[mellow carbon]

Some upgrades are definitely a help; it looks like you've kept updating this and not rebooted. I was at 7.58E+22 Knowledge 6 min after reboot, and 3.33E+25 at 3 days. I'll know in another day or so whether the rate relative to rate at 6 minutes keeps going up. I decided I needed at least 10 fills between measurements to get sensible error bars, although I'll have to back off on that when the rate gets low enough. I do have more badges than you, but I don't think that's the dominant effect.

I remain impressed at how complicated they've managed to make the "should I reboot" question.

[amber canyon]

Not sure there's much read across between before and after. What with the rebalancing AND bug fixing.

[mellow carbon]

Are you still completely on the old version? I thought you got some of the rebalancing effects.

[tall mirage]

Is there a moden mastery V or it stops at IV

[fluid delta]

It stops at IV

[tall mirage]

Same with ancestral yea?

[mellow carbon]

Pre-rebalance I was 5.98E+18 at 6 min and 1.69E+19 at 2 days.

[fluid delta]

Yes. Futuristic stops at III though

[tall mirage]

Yea futuristic IV would eclipse modern

[fluid delta]

I'm sure we'll see it in a future update

[tall mirage]

yea

we gonna see some ridiculous numbers if monthly updates in 2026

[amber canyon]

I went back to the previous version. Because bugs and stuff.

[quasi ivy]

challange level 2 completed

[round mulch]

Is there a achievement related to flipping that one coin in the primary simulation

[rough axle]

yes

[round mulch]

How many times do o need to flip it

And what side

[amber canyon]

Just try it a few times?

[round mulch]

Idk

Best i got was 8 in a row

[rough axle]

8 what

heads or tails

[frigid adder]

In primary and exploration hub, it says x is ___× more efficient. Does that mean the generators are inefficient before we get those upgrades?

[round mulch]

Heads

[indigo pendant]

six seven

[open night]

Another idea. I'm posting them as I lack the proper credentials it seems to post in Suggestions. It's about adding Viruses to the Primary Simulation

[amber canyon]

Have you tried this? #💡-suggestions message

(In the Suggestion channel's pinned comments)

[tough depot]

The new infinity pass offer is showing up for me today but showing that I no longer have one active. I swear I still had a bunch of time left. Is this happening for anyone else or am I crazy?

[errant fog]

Hi so um I joined this game randomly and deleted it in 2022. I just redownloaded it and what is this reboot that it is talking about? What are the most important changes?

[strange wing]

The UI. Along with more upgrade and generator

[errant fog]

Ok. That sounds cool. I would guess as well that the reboot was like a reset of everything. But when I logged in, it had my old progress still so what exactly does it mean and when was the cutoff?

[rough axle]

Nothing was intentionally reset

[errant fog]

Ok then what does it mean?

[rough axle]

The “Reality Reboot” is the name of the latest major update

I suggest you watch the trailer in #📓-dev-diary for a minor overview

[errant fog]

Ok thanks

Oh so it added all the prestige and other simulations and stuff

[open night]

I tried creating a new thread, twice, and was reported as spam automatically and blocked from speaking for an hour each time

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-many-times-do-we-need-to-teach-you-old-man-slow-thick-gif-12272188

You do NOT make a new thread to make a suggestion. Threads are only for the DISCUSSION of submitted suggestions.

[lament temple]

How do I make a suggestion in Discord?

• Go to #🎭-semblance. Use the /suggest command and type your suggestion in the dialog box. Your suggestion will first be reviewed by the moderators (to make sure it's related to the game/server and isn’t a troll), and if it's approved, it will appear in #💡-suggestions for other people (and maybe the developers) to see. Do not create a thread directly in #💡-suggestions because that won't count and the thread will eventually be deleted.

Frequently Asked Questions • Requested by Jolly Arch Dux

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[desert flax]

I AM FREE

one more until 67

although I'm on team reset so I treat 67 as a normal number

WHAAAA

yeah this is going to take so much more time won't it

[rough axle]

dont worry thyats the last one

[desert flax]

5x10^9 seconds left

see you guys in a century and three-fifths

[inner tapir]

im lvl 72.33%. brutal grind

[acoustic thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-time-rabbit-gif-9497165517404307883

[fluid delta]

For now. Heh.

[fluid delta]

Yes, keep at it, it only gets harder 😄

Idling pays off this time though.. since the update, I mean

[inner tapir]

definitely. still plenty of RE nodes to unlock - i've got modern mastery lvl 10 about to be done tonight

and already bought the other big 700CC cost one (can't remember the name)

4.79DD to 4.88DD should equal ~90CC, correct?

im tired and just want to make sure my math is right

[rough axle]

<@&535129309648781332> kill him

[azure turtle]

!ban 617683578440122378 crypto scam

[bright otter]

Banned gradkatopies (Case #4137) (user notified with a direct message)

[azure turtle]

Thanks

[fluid delta]

Yes, that math looks good

[fluid delta]

I'm most of the way done.. I mean, in terms of quantity of nodes, not progress in them.. and I don't have GE yet.

[inner tapir]

GE isn't even on my radar probably until march~ish lol

[fluid delta]

You might be surprised. Idling is VERY good now. 9 days of idling got me what 15000 quick reboots/spamming would have given me.

[thin notch]

Im in that game phase where i got more Knowledge than metabits now

[charred musk]

I used beta time jump💀✌️

I regret so badly

[fluid delta]

Oh? You in the cheater div now?

[charred musk]

?

I don't understand

[fluid delta]

Maybe I misunderstood. Why the regret?

[rough axle]

wel it resets your progress partially so you can test new content

[spring dome]

it looked as if yall want mods to kill him for using custom notation

[rough axle]

yeah that works too

[fluid delta]

lol.. without the spammer there, it does look like that, doesn't it?

[inner tapir]

wtf did i do lol

[fluid delta]

You missed a crypto scammer

[dry cairn]

Has anyone experimented with moving their research chips around? Curious how much it helps or hurts to stray away from the usual 50/50.

[white egret]

cant speak much to this cause its just a theory but in the late game moving more to ideas might give more xp since it has such a lead

[fluid delta]

Seems plausible

[frigid adder]

U use custom notation, u gotta go

[steep wasp]

in the short term yes but long term it depends on the most recent update
i guarantee that whatever they're cooking with the mollusk update is going to give entropy back the lead

[sinful delta]

vro what could this possibly have meant

[rough axle]

Pisces

[fluid delta]

I use Custom notation bc it is the best, you should join us too 🙂

[inner tapir]

no u

[near python]

does anyone know how to log or sign in accs

[frigid adder]

I'm not getting bitten

[rain otter]

[rough axle]

I see why a lot of you like it, but my one gripe with it is the inconsistency in the beginning

[white egret]

scientific clears because its easier to calculate logs and ratios

[fluid delta]

What inconsistency? It’s always 1000x each increment of exponent.

[fluid delta]

My problem with Scientific in this game is that it doesn’t follow a fixed format such as X.XXXEYYY, so it can be annoying to compare two numbers. Custom on the other hand does follow a fixed format, and the use of letters makes the exponent visually stand out

[white egret]

what do you mean by this? the only time it doesnt follow this format is < e6

[fluid delta]

idk if that’s true

[white egret]

for numbers below a million its true

[fluid delta]

perhaps. i will keep an eye out

[white egret]

i mean here's an example, up to 999k it shows all the digits, but above that it turns to X.XXEYY

[fluid delta]

Like I said, I will keep watch.

[white egret]

ofc for events that dont reach above e6 "quick" enough its not super useful for fast calculations but its still better in that sense

how it be

[dusky marten]

My app often crashes when I just watched an ad

and I get nothing

😭

[spring dome]

the beginning
instead of starting with AA
it starts M, B, T then AA

[desert flax]

I think it may be opening the Google Play Store forcefully and your phone unloads apps the second you switch

that happens to me too

[dusky marten]

but it seldom brings me to Google play

just crashes most of the time

[grizzled lance]

For a single upgrade? Nah, that don't fit my data. These are five different times i screenshot. There's a sixth time at like 12 hours that also fits with the linear relationship.

I'd forgotten there's also a time guy for metabits. That's a big deal. Stacking multipliers is what feels truly good!

[long ocean]

Hi Guys does anyone know if the Presents are bugged? today my Present said 8 Logits i clicked it but i dont get any Logits

[barren sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/celltosingularity-computerlunch-archie-archosaur-gif-7540806360199067537

[mellow carbon]

Huh, same effect here. I'm overdue on collecting and didn't get the darwinium or logits for earlier days. However, after ~60s it appeared?!

[long ocean]

now i dont know if that happens before to me too i never looked at it just saw it today on the actual Present

[mellow carbon]

Also wow, idleing for Knowledge has been amazingly buffed. Day 3->Day 4 I'm up to twice the rate of knowledge I was getting after 6 minutes. Metabits is still pretty useless. Rate there is about 0.03x the 6 minute rate.

[mellow carbon]

I'm wondering if it had to talk to the server for something. What I saw was I clicked on them, none of the numbers changed. Then I wrote my post. Then I looked back and darwinium and logits had both gone up, so I edited. Weird.

[long ocean]

nothing happens here also restart Game dont work

[amber canyon]

It does check the server. When I rolled back to a 5 day old save, I didn't get the presents I'd claimed again.

[still crow]

did they change how they show your research level progression? cuz it used to give like a thing saying a day or 2 hours and stuff and i really enjoyed that but now it just shows the scientific notation instead? idk if there’s a way to turn it back on but does anybody know?

[white egret]

I've done testing with saves and stuff and I'm pretty sure Darwinium gains are saved on your computer no matter your save or profile

[amber canyon]

What you have might be. But whether you've claimed a present isn't.

[amber canyon]

Removed. Presumably because it was wildly inaccurate - https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1453771394264334441

[still crow]

ahhh dang :( i liked it it gave me a general time frame and it made it feel like an old computer trying to figure out how long something takes to download

[amber canyon]

Mine is showing. It is near the end though. So if you bought it during the Black Friday sale it's likely expired (I bought mine near the end of it).

[still crow]

and how the computer would say “oh this will just take five minutes” then you look 2 seconds later then it’s suddenly “please…. end my suffering for me and this file will dance till the sun explodes this file will finish downloading in 34 billion years”

[amber canyon]

If you use scientific notation, easy to get ROM using the numbers still shown (1e5 ~1 day, 1e4 ~2h)

[still crow]

true true, i’m just mourning the loss of my time estimate it made the simulation feel special like it was really alive i guess? idk im trying to rationalize why i miss it so much cuz it really wasn’t to most important thing to me

i need to find my black dress and headpiece and sit solomly in a corner for a few days

[amber canyon]

I found it mildly entertaining seeing how much it fluctuated.

Did you see this? I lol-ed.

[still crow]

pft- no i never saw that, i also only ever got it saying “a very long time” to me

[amber canyon]

Sounded much better in French, right?

[still crow]

i prefer the english saying a very long time it’s silly and i enjoy silly stuff

tho french is a cool language :]

[amber canyon]

FWIW, I worked out that a very long time was over 100 years - which is fair. #💬-cells-chat message

[still crow]

dang-

i agree very very fair

[grizzled lance]

Also, the time dependent multipliers means your rate changes over time. You could take that into account. If you feel like it.

[amber canyon]

That's the main reason (apart from short term fluctuation in the income it was using) why the calculation was wildly inaccurate.

[still crow]

yeahhhh i think that might have been the big reason they got rid of the time estimator

[grizzled lance]

Also also, the xp rate is just entropy times ideas, right?

[still crow]

i have no clue

i deeply enjoy the game enough to where i have every badge but 2 but im not the most serious player i just really really really like the game

[amber canyon]

Mine is roughly Entropy / s x Idea / s x Sim Speed multiplier. But I'm still on the previous version. Don't know what it is now.

(and don't know if that's actually what it is, or if just coincidence)

[white egret]

was a bit busy but i can speak more on this, the story is that i was on a 2nd steam profile and i reset my save, i then moved to my main profile and all the darwinium rewards from socials were obtainable again, altho to admit the presents werent

the way the gains & claimed systems are stored is weird and inconsistent across different things, no clue why

[grizzled lance]

Oh dang. There's also these. Maybe that makes things a bit too complicated ^ -^
You have to estimate how long it takes to fill and yadi yada.

[white egret]

itd prob be hard to take this into account considering these are effected by when the player buys stuff, which is arbitrary

[amber canyon]

I think the Devs want the game to be playable offline. But decide to put online stuff when needed. Or if they think people might cheat (or it 'matters' if people cheat ).

[white egret]

thats true, but i even mean stuff that should be consistent across the game

like value only being an option in the main sim, or the different types of generators

or even like how clicking certain things works

[amber canyon]

Complier and Capacitor type nodes single-handedly changed it from a 'buy tall' game to 'buy wide' game. I'm sad about that change.

[white egret]

(annoyed how in beyond when you click on a planet in the missions it takes you to that planet in both tab and the screen but in meso it only takes you to the dino on the screen not the tab)

but thats unrelated

the claimed presents seem to be saved in the save file or something similar

[amber canyon]

I think the Devs don't really understand maths. During the Nov livestream I was wincing at how one of them (the main one?) was talking about the formula and percentages. Like talking about 0.04% being 4%; or describing 0.27 as 'nought point twenty seven'.

[white egret]

actually i can test this rq

[white egret]

reminds me of a video of a verison employee not understanding the difference between 0.002 cents and 0.002 dollars

[white egret]

was it a dev or like some community manager? or like some dev who doesnt work on the formulas

if this was the latest stream it might be findable hold on

[amber canyon]

I think it was the 'main' dev (Andrew) Not the one who was supposed to be in charge of the economy/balancing (the one in the social thing that started 'is Cells too hard now'?). I d'know how CL is structure tbh though.

Pretty sure it wasn't the Dec one.

But - if I'm remembering correctly - it was the sort of error(s) that you stop doing if you use maths 'properly', Def by ~16yo (although I'd internalised that stuff before ~10 yo).

[white egret]

he seems to be credited as a writer?

at least further back he is

i have found a stream where he says .3% instead of 3%? the upgrade reads +0.03x

i mean some slack could be given considering its live and all

wait also its not even a percentage

its a +0.03x

[amber canyon]

That could be it 😁.

I have slept since then!

[white egret]

well "percent of upgrade" and "percent of total" are different

[white egret]

lol true

[amber canyon]

I Def remember wincing

[white egret]

hold on im gonna have to make a timestamp

[amber canyon]

(and wondering if that was why there are ... Unexplainable oddities ...

[white egret]

https://youtu.be/s71VOqsRxfg?t=1709

also there could be like legitimate disagreement between whats stated in game and what you actually get

[amber canyon]

Dude ... I don't want to see it again - it was bad enough the first time 😉

(And yes, I can be this pedantic in my job ...)

[white egret]

lol its real tho, seeing bad math is horrible, even more when its simple

[amber canyon]

It def stood out to me as the sort of error that a mathsy/STEM person just wouldn't make.

[white egret]

oh wait they have credits in game we can see his role

mm ok

[amber canyon]

Sorry if I spoilt your morning 😬

[white egret]

lol

dw its 2 hours to midnight here!

much to sleep on

[amber canyon]

Sorry if I gave you nightmares then!

[tall mirage]

🤔 sounds like aus

[amber canyon]

(just remember, it's only a game! It's not important!)

[white egret]

you too?

[tall mirage]

nahh, I just know someone there

[grizzled lance]

Well yeah. You'd have to assume that never happens, and if it does happen you update the estimate.

Although i'm finding so many upgrades now that maybe it's not feasible. I had almost completed the old reality engine, so i already had most of the new upgrades without having to pick them. It was quite disorienting for a while.

[amber canyon]

You have the BEST hard SF author ever imo (Greg Egan).

[tall mirage]

i'm guessing it's either sydney, melbourne, perth, adelaide, brisbane, canberra or hobart
Only places Ik there which have a cricket ground

[amber canyon]

If you like maths, there's a lot in his books as appendices and supplementary web info.

[white egret]

you could also do a little extrapolating from the current run but itd be wildly wrong i feel

oh also i saw you looking for the chamber formulas and i have those!

[grizzled lance]

Doesn't seem like it. My xp is about 15000 times faster than that. Which is suspiciously close to my smallest multiplier from research chips (!) but that seems kinda random 🥴

[white egret]

sci fi with good math? its unbelievable

[white egret]

its based on metabits and the other one

[tall mirage]

if we do that, then we exceed xp rate by 1e4

[grizzled lance]

Huh

[white egret]

hold on i think i have it in a desmos file somewhere

oh i do have the chamber rates tho

[amber canyon]

The Orthogonal trilogy especially. Starts with 'What if the speed of light in a vacuum wasn't constant?', and the maths and physics goes on from there.

[white egret]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/xglui7weja

[tall mirage]

Yea chamber rates tis fine, need to know crystal rates

[white egret]

i have no clue what the crystal rates are but i assume its either linear or linear + exp

[tall mirage]

Kf made graph for prev version

it was exp

[white egret]

fair

[tall mirage]

current one is defo faster, but that's everything I know

[white egret]

faster per speed or faster speed?

[tall mirage]

caps faster

[white egret]

ccant tell much

[tall mirage]

Prev version, capping took 31d 17h (in-game), after update it's defo lesser than 23d 19h, but that's about I can tell

[white egret]

wait what is its cap?

[tall mirage]

1000x

or rather 1001x

makes a WHOLE lot of difference

[tall mirage]

could get formula for current vers, but would need everyone to tell their multis

Rn I have 133 hrs gives 29x and 139 hrs gives 30.6x

[white egret]

why not do a regression?

actually prob need more numbers to it

[amber canyon]

To be it's not the number as such, just a sign that something that should be easy is wrong. Along with e.g. RL70 not existing properly. And the metabit wotsit capping at the wrong number.

[tall mirage]

yea need more points, otherwise very inaccurate

[white egret]

assuming a+bx+c^(x) youd need 2 point stho

or could be +c^(x-d)

[tall mirage]

More like k + Ae^bt

[white egret]

e^b=c

A=c^-d

[tall mirage]

Nice

[white egret]

its just less variables without limiting the dimensions

[tall mirage]

I mean we do have another value and that's 0 hrs gives 1x

[white egret]

true

[frigid cloak]

ive returned to cells after a year and i got those rewards!
its really cool to have them ❤️

[tall mirage]

could u come up with formula if u have 3 points? values are 133 hrs = 29x, 139 hrs = 30.6x, 148 hrs = 32.96x

[white egret]

yeah prolly

im just gonna do the regression in desmos

[tall mirage]

One way to verify would be it should reach 1000x <= 595hrs

[amber canyon]

Welcome back! If you want info on what's changed, this might be useful - #📢-announcements message

[white egret]

assuming the source formuala is in seconds this will have high error but it should be decent

[tall mirage]

would tell secs if I could, btw u can ping lol

[frigid cloak]

thanks buddy, ill check it out right now 👍

could you in short explain though?

[white egret]

well apprently its linear!

[amber canyon]

You can see seconds by clicking on the RE hypercube btw.

[white egret]

imma remove a and see how that goes, i think its over fitting

[tall mirage]

💀 never noticed that

[white egret]

wait where is this upgrade on the tree

[tall mirage]

what if u try and add (0,1)

[amber canyon]

Lots of stuff changed. There's a huge amount of new nodes that affect your sim, and various tactics available (reboot/upgrade quickly, or wait for Time nodes to grow). Buying lots of generators is better than focussing on your best one now. No need to prestige in Meso.

[tall mirage]

what's x1 if u solve for y1 = 1000

[white egret]

i dont have the lambert w function on hand so i cant give you an exact answer

[frigid cloak]

damn thats actually sick

[amber canyon]

I only noticed by accident!

[white egret]

504.034

i mean not bad for 4 data points

[tall mirage]

Nic

[white egret]

considering the error is in hours

[frigid cloak]

altho, i had meso maxed out but what i wonder about beyond

[tall mirage]

I'm like 99% sure this is accurate

[white egret]

what was the expected?

[tall mirage]

coz this is 21 days and chambers before update were maxing at 7d, 14d and 21d
It's possible they made it so that 1st crystal maxes at 21d

[white egret]

i think c being extra high is whats throwing it off for large numbers

[tall mirage]

ANything in increments of 24 lesser than 600 and and greater than 400 tbh

[white egret]

i expect like 1.0001 or something around that area

1.01 seems large

[amber canyon]

Check out the in game 'Coming soon'! Also new roadmap attached.

[frigid cloak]

hmm is beta still going on?

id like to rejoin it or something like that

[white egret]

there is currently a beta for ep 29

[frigid cloak]

looks very cool! beyond itself it so interesting

[amber canyon]

There are various beta channels if you look at the server channels.

[white egret]

think you have to activate them or sm

[tall mirage]

I mean just needed an approximate to see when it's best to reboot

[white egret]

if i have minutes or even seconds i could be more accurate but yeah fair

[tall mirage]

What would be y1 value at 258 hrs?

[frigid cloak]

imma take a look at them rn

[amber canyon]

Right, have fun y'alls!

[white egret]

77.336

[tall mirage]

and just last one, what would be at 216 hrs

[white egret]

55.883

[tall mirage]

aight yea, this should be accurate

[white egret]

honestly i could just type the function out

[tall mirage]

yea would be better

[white egret]

-0.000168933190099+0.1727751371x+1.01361601282^{x}

oh c didnt copy

fixed

[tall mirage]

Thanks

x is time in hrs here right?

[white egret]

yeah

[tall mirage]

aight thanks

[white egret]

oh it being in hours might be whats making c so large

[tall mirage]

Yea u mentioned

[white egret]

ok adjusted its 1.00000375671

which makes more sense i think

the chambers are in orders of E-6

[tall mirage]

Wdym

[white egret]

the bases of the idea chambers are like 4E-6,5E-6 etc

well +1 ofc but you get the idea

[tall mirage]

Ah yea

😭 should have noted down numbers for 2nd time crystal

[white egret]

lol rip

where are the crystals??

[grizzled lance]

Nice, so the growth rates are round numbers. If you express them per second instead of per hour.

[tall mirage]

to the left of idea quintupler

[white egret]

ah i see

[tall mirage]

I have 1 number for u, 148hr 31 min = 28.874

If 2 more peeps mention their times, you might be able to tell the formula

[white egret]

ive got my time

knowledge crystal 2 right?

[tall mirage]

Yup

Will 2 be enough?

[white egret]

im just gonna say 148.5 i cbf

[tall mirage]

Tbf u do have 0 hrs = 1

[tall mirage]

Yea works or convert everything to mins lol

[white egret]

it does not appear so!

10^-13 awesome base

[tall mirage]

[white egret]

here is a comparison of the "formulas"

it just shoots off

[tall mirage]

💀 the fall cannot be THAT great for the 2nd one

[white egret]

one more datapoint will do the trick

[tall mirage]

@grizzled lance contribute a datapoint

[white egret]

the constant term actually should be removed

since (0,1) is a sol

still doesnt fix it tho

[tall mirage]

Ye makes sense

[white egret]

wait no im wrong

[grizzled lance]

Knowledge time crystal 2? 3:19, x1.049

[white egret]

a should be c?

[white egret]

is that in minutes and seconds

actually wait i have a 2nd profile!

[white egret]

when x=0 c^0=1 so a should be -1

no im wrong

no a term

wait it fixed itself! im gonna copy this and see if it changes once i add the new point

for ref

[tall mirage]

the 2nd one can't be growing faster than the first one tho

[white egret]

ok this looks right

[white egret]

thats how it worked with the chambers

the chambers grew faster but the linear was worse so it grew sharper

[white egret]

this sentence doesnt make sense

[tall mirage]

Yea, but the chambers had different max limits so

[white egret]

true

[tall mirage]

Pretty sure it's 1000x for both 1 n 2

[white egret]

well we just need to see someone with more than 15ish days of playtime

[tall mirage]

Day 9 should be enough no?

[grizzled lance]

hours and minutes

[tall mirage]

if crystal 2 exceeds 1, at like the 200 hr mark, that's 8d 8hr

[white egret]

true

[white egret]

the current thing says 193 so about 8 days

but i dont know how wrong that is

[tall mirage]

AH nice, I was trying to eyeball from graph

what if u add volbla's datapoint as well?

[white egret]

true hold on

i can both test with it and add it actually

[tall mirage]

and not make e2 = 0?

[white egret]

thats the residual

so like the error

[tall mirage]

yea true

[white egret]

we know exactly that at 0 its 1

[tall mirage]

Oh lmaooo, nvm then

[white egret]

the error is still quite large

[tall mirage]

so at day is it reaching 1000x?

[white egret]

i think the error is too large for it to be a reasonable guess

[tall mirage]

So prolly need closer datapoints yea? like the 1st crystal

[white egret]

i think if they were larger maybe too

considering the smaller the number the larger the error

[tall mirage]

🤔 if i give u numbers at 149 and 149.5

should be able to make reasonable guess?

[white egret]

that runs into precision error

like the value at 1 and 1.01 would look the same to us because we dont have all the decimals

[tall mirage]

Yea, maybe 155 and 162 would work

[white egret]

yeah, wait a day or so

[tall mirage]

Yea or someone who's at maybe 100 and 120 hrs but diff to find

[white egret]

kf is a holder

right?

famously

[grizzled lance]

This reminds me of when i tried to figure out the scoring system of an app for freecell solitaire. It almost followed an inverse relation of the time taken to solve it, but there were errors everywhere i couldn't get rid of.

In the end it turned out it was a simple relationship, but the app only scored points in increments of 35... I thought i was too dumb to figure out the rule, but the app was even dumber than me. It ain't easy to analyse data if you don't know how precise it is.

[tall mirage]

kf at like day 40

sooooo

[white egret]

might be too long lol

[white egret]

lmao, i do want to add i know CTS does have high precision when its doing these kinds of calculations

[tall mirage]

I mean tescoo did find the current formula for knowledge crystal 1

we just need larger data points for knowledge crystal 2

[white egret]

also i have exact formulas (it came to me in a dream) for the chambers

[tall mirage]

[tall mirage]

acc to calculator my time chamber 3 should max at 6d 4hr

but it's at 74.87x and not 100x

[white egret]

idea or entro?

[tall mirage]

idea

[amber canyon]

Sorry, couldn't afford KTCry2 when I had the couldn't version. No data 😢.

[white egret]

rip

[white egret]

i cant actually do an exact solve for idea (because lambert w) but i can get close

[tall mirage]

the fact that entroTC2 won't max till 14d is crazy

[tall mirage]

Nvm I'm dumb, I was looking at wrong line

[white egret]

oh so entro?

[amber canyon]

Right. Time to start the event. Nearly 4 hours. Ugh.

[tall mirage]

Nah there's no issue with the desmos graph u sent

[white egret]

oh lol

[tall mirage]

I was looking at TC4 line instead of Tc3

[white egret]

ah lol

[tall mirage]

error should be <.5 pretty sure

[white egret]

well error should be 0 really

really the error is some magnitude larger than 2^-52 because of floating point error

[tall mirage]

Yea should be practically negligible

[white egret]

(both desmos and CTS use doubles for these numbers (well CTS uses "BigDouble" which is a common plugin to support numbers >1.8e308 but who cars))

[tall mirage]

they need to fix Entropy TCs tho

[white egret]

whats wrong with it

its prolly linear

[tall mirage]

Yea so you'll never max em

[white egret]

time chamber 6 takes ~8 years

[tall mirage]

yea nothing wrong with it

💀 i don't even have enough metabits to unlock it

Still yet to finish primordial vii coz I'm at 9/10

[white egret]

on this: if you started the game when it launched with time chamber 6 and never reset, youd have like another year of waiting

but idea TC6 takes about 11 days!

[tall mirage]

Yup, Entropy should mirror Idea chambers

in future updates

[white egret]

it could be why entropy starts to lag behind in the late game?

but quick reseters face it too

[tall mirage]

Entropy chambers were maxing at 7d, 14d, 21d before update

They broke it, made longer runs worse for entropy too

[cedar current]

Does the Jellyfish launcher work in events? I'm 3rd at the moment and been 5 finger tapping so much but never thought to check that it works.

[white egret]

jellyfish launcher?

[cedar current]

This thing, I assume it launches Jellyfish but there are none in Events?

[white egret]

oh the autobots

yeah they work just fine

[cedar current]

Oh worth using?

[white egret]

yeah

since theres 4 currencies its spread out between them

[cedar current]

Damn haha, I best get on that

[white egret]

but its still good

[cedar current]

My 5th event so was just happy to get top 10, but missing my full nights sleep lol 😆

[white egret]

lol

rough comparison, all together it seems about 3x?

[tall mirage]

Only worth it to aim for top 10 for newer events if u have negligible badges

[white egret]

ive been ftp no badges and i barely get the 2nd one

darwin lowkey carries

[tall mirage]

Loll

[white egret]

something something p2w

[cedar current]

I'm 59/31/14 in main story, not sure on events but this is my 5th and I've completed everyone so far

[cedar current]

Darwin?

[tall mirage]

Yea, I'm talking total no.of badges

[tall mirage]

[white egret]

darwinium, the purple cubes

[cedar current]

Oh I haven't bought any yet lol

Tbh the hour skips never felt worth it when clicking

[white egret]

you can get them slowly f2p

[cedar current]

Yea I've been buying all the modules or whatever, they say active now

[tall mirage]

60 Dw away from buying the new red module

[white egret]

has mu rolled out yet?

[cedar current]

I only have 1 left still locked

[white egret]

yeah thats mu

[cedar current]

Ah yea mu 👀😂

[white egret]

im lvl 60 so idk if ill have much advantage on seeing it

[tall mirage]

Isn't that lambda?

[white egret]

i mean the 2nd red one

[tall mirage]

Yea that's prolly with molluscs

[cedar current]

How do I check event badges?

Curious now lol

[tall mirage]

click on top right on your main screen on the 3 vertical lines

[white egret]

its in alphabeta-ical order so thats how you know em

[tall mirage]

yea honestly I only remeber till theta

[amber canyon]

Have you checked the garden?

[white egret]

i know em just not the order

cause of math

[cedar current]

Garden?

Wow it seems I lied and did more than 5 events 🙈

[white egret]

its where the models and stuff are

[tall mirage]

Yea but never used like xi

or upsilon

[white egret]

Yrs?

[amber canyon]

The view if you click.on the 3D cube, not the tech tree view.

[white egret]

ik xi from some quark configs

[cedar current]

Takes me to shop/upgrades/modules

[tall mirage]

ah, I've heard of others somewhere or the other except those 2

[white egret]

oh isnt xi used in some expanded sum thingy?

[amber canyon]

The other 3D cube. Bottom right ish.

[white egret]

i forgot the name but its written like {a,b:c,d} or something

[tall mirage]

could be, but I've never seen it

[cedar current]

Oh with the trees, that makes sense

My idea overtook my entropy, not sure if that was supposed to happen haha

[white egret]

i was thinking of hyper geometric but it doesn t even use xi

[tall mirage]

Lmao

[white egret]

"riemann xi function" now you just making stuff up

its just some reflection form bs or something

[cedar current]

Ah I see now, 24 event badges so I've done 8 events

[amber canyon]

Now the one in the event. Might help with your clicking. Also, they're called nanobots 🙂.

[cedar current]

Yea I realise now, I remember taking the upgrade before Xmas and then it didn't seem that good compared to 5 finger tapping so I stopped using it lol

[tall mirage]

not necessarily, it means you've done a min of 8 events

[white egret]

you could just do both tho

[steady dune]

It should be

[cedar current]

Good point 😂

[tall mirage]

don't forget to take ur free 10 dw from this event

[white egret]

idea taking over entropy is like a late game symbol

[white egret]

only free if you finish it :(

[tall mirage]

Could get even if u are 80% of the way there

[white egret]

true

[cedar current]

How? I've reset twice, currently trying to complete wave 3

[white egret]

i havent even unlocked the last 2 things tho

[tall mirage]

@cedar current you see what Kf has circled here?

[cedar current]

Yes

[tall mirage]

shouldn't take too long if u get 2x reward every 15 mins

[white egret]

2x reward?

oh like from the quantum thingys

[tall mirage]

You see those 5 bars out of which 1 is locked for you rn? You need to fill them up

[amber canyon]

Have you seen the levers?

[tall mirage]

You fill them up by clicking on the levers for each of 5 currencies

[cedar current]

Oh

[tall mirage]

3 times each

[tall mirage]

I meant offline reward mb lol

2x offline rewards using ads

You can only claim the reward once, so it's advised NOT to buy the upgrades that cost for higher challenge levels

as you end up losing DW

[cedar current]

Dang, hopefully I can unlock the last one before reset haha

[cedar current]

I didn't even know there were upgrades to make the challenge levels harder

[tall mirage]

it's alright

My personal advice from someone who used to have almost no badges, you should only join events at 2d 0hr mark

This way as long as you can complete Challenge lvl 2, you're guaranteed top 10

Has worked for me in like 80-85% of the events so far

[cedar current]

Yea I think I got an easier leaderboard because I slept before I reset this time lol

[tall mirage]

loll

[long ocean]

easy

[cedar current]

This is the 3rd cycle so taking longer but hopefully

[amber canyon]

My advice for events if you're interested (I don't use autoclicker, and don't like manually clicking). By doing this I collect all 3 badges and finish top 10 almost every time, even when I had v few badges) #💬-cells-chat message

[long ocean]

i know i can see 😛 but still easy if you do it right

[cedar current]

Haha hopefully 😁

[tall mirage]

yea same as what I do, except i give myself 48 hrs to finish 2 challenge lvls

[cedar current]

That sounds perfect, clicking is fun but I don't think there's much advantage over the offline strat, will test and see how it goes 😁

[amber canyon]

I lean in to the Idle part of this game 😁

[long ocean]

autoclicker on money event is not worth imo so yeah offline it is

[tall mirage]

and glad to see the events are built towards that

[spring dome]

wait, isnt money event the one that makes the most sense to play actively with the levers?

[long ocean]

if you have no life perharps

[long raven]

Idk if I’m finishing this event chat

[rough axle]

The fact that it starts out with M B T before going into actually custom

[inner tapir]

custom notation is l33t

[long raven]

I lied I just finished event

Phew

[ionic magnet]

should upgrade or what

[long ocean]

spam reboots at the start are never wrong if you can do a big upgrade (like this)

[inner tapir]

modern mastery finally maxed out. can finally just let this sim run and inflate (for now) (cc: @fluid delta)

cool, leaderboards are back

i definitely thought i was higher than rank #895 in the world lol

[tall mirage]

beta skewing lb

[inner tapir]

fair

[ionic magnet]

If i upgrade I will repeat everything

[tawdry parrot]

I think I forgot to play the event oops

[dusty shore]

any one else having no offline earnings for the event or any other simulation?

[rough axle]

If you’re offline for less than 2 minutes you won’t get anything

[dusty shore]

I was offline since last night 😄
I got some in the primary simulation. But any other (beyond, event and mesozoic valley) didn't gave me any

I was hoping to get enough stuff in the event to buy some research again

[hollow pelican]

maybe a bug

[dusty shore]

i'm playing on mobile. Just wondering if others had a similar bug.

[long ocean]

nothing like that here

[charred musk]

Is modern mastery the best thing right now

[inner tapir]

yes

[charred musk]

Ok will work on it

[south escarp]

Has anyone completed the reality engine tree

[long ocean]

not possible so short after the Update

[south escarp]

Dang

Is anyone close?

[inner tapir]

i doubt it but i can't say for certain

[long ocean]

whats close for you ?

[inner tapir]

i was on a roll with metabit RE nodes until the last update where knowledge became way more powerful so i was able to catch up on knowledge and continue a lot of unlocks...but i think the back and forth tuning as content drops will create more of that "focus on this instead of this" approach

[south escarp]

Idk

I have like 10 qi metabits total

Well

Had

[long ocean]

lemme try to answer this maybe some Peeps are close by the time next beyond update will be released whats arround end of January beginning of February i think

[south escarp]

Im tryna get a photo of my engine but it wont fit onscreen

[dry cairn]

Since the leaderboard has been back I've dropped from 675 to 1018. I dont know if only because of beta or also other stuff but people are flying past me.

[long ocean]

i think a lot of cheaters are there too

[amber canyon]

Beta testers don't have access to future primary / RE stuff atm.

Do you use autoclicker? I think a lot of people have been driven / pushed towards that since the Reality Reboot. Which will have an effect.

[dry cairn]

I dont have the starter cpu or idea accelerator, don't use an auto-clicker, and mostly just play passively collecting my idle rewards a few times per day. So maybe it would be weird if I wasn't falling in the leaderboard, lol.

[amber canyon]

Especially while quite a lot of people are on a break atm.

[south escarp]

wait, should getting this badge mean you got everything in the reality engine?

[long ocean]

why you wrote in your last comment than you dont know if you know? 🙈

[inner tapir]

no, one does not imply "complete"

[long ocean]

nope

[south escarp]

dang it

[inner tapir]

i have that badge and still have plenty of RE nodes to unlock

[south escarp]

wait im actually kinda close

[long ocean]

you are far away from all actual stuff in RE after this archivement

[thorny spire]

Just wondering when did generators cost so much
I swear before they were cheaper

[south escarp]

alr

[dry cairn]

@inner tapir whats your in-game name?

[south escarp]

what does this badge mean?

[rough axle]

Trex iirc

[inner tapir]

pepperjackcheese 🙂

[south escarp]

breh

ok

[rough axle]

You need extinction 26

[inner tapir]

here is my RE node status. everything else of knowledge is unlocked (except all the way to the far left, one tap increase item that costs 25.00DD)

[south escarp]

bro why we using custom

[inner tapir]

because it's easy to understand

[south escarp]

but i understand what quintrigintillion means

itsl ike

uhhhh

shoot

[inner tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-chuck-norris-approved-alright-okay-gif-11116710

[south escarp]

its a big number

uhhhhhh

trigintillion is the third decillion

[inner tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/unifiedhealth-keepgoing-gif-23454958

[south escarp]

quin means five

so

like 2

its around 2

[fallow anchor]

I like scientific format

[south escarp]

ok what should i buy with 250 darwinium

i just did all the codes on my pc

[inner tapir]

scientific notation unlock

[south escarp]

unfortunately i like the really big crazy numbers

more than scientific

[dry cairn]

Custom is the way. Beyond is in WWW right now, I can't turn that down.

[mild viper]

EUGMGMVMCMDKDMFMFGMMVCKCKM

I'm too lazy for this shi

[south escarp]

HOW DO YOU HAVE SO MANY LOGITS

[mild viper]

#1455201785944866837 message

[dry cairn]

Ive bought everything. Been playing for 3.5 years though.

[inner tapir]

me too lol

[south escarp]

i need a guide for spending darwinium

[inner tapir]

i don't have as many but i have like 1600

[long ocean]

why post double? just wait for answer

[south escarp]

gng ive had it since 2020

how

[frigid cloak]

i thought 200 is a lot...

[dry cairn]

There's nothing to spend them on.

[south escarp]

i have 67 logits 🗿

[long ocean]

you should play events

[inner tapir]

i submitted a feature request to allow us to convert them into other currencies (metabits, knowledge, darwinium, mutagen, geodes, stars, etc)

[south escarp]

no whenever im on a roll ill forget to pay and the event will be over

[inner tapir]

same for me with the constellation fragments. i have 170 of them but i have all the constellations complete. no use for them

[south escarp]

oh hey i can unlock fiat money

[long ocean]

than dont ask how others have this many logits 🙈

[south escarp]

how do you have the consistency to get 15,900 logits

i didnt know theres been that many events

[frigid cloak]

im spending them on black holes, im on 26th beyond episode 🙏

[long ocean]

you cant spend logits on blackholes

[inner tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[frigid cloak]

i was talking about darwinium

[south escarp]

guys i have 2.53e2 darwinium

anyways are modules and upgrades worth it

[rough axle]

I’m so cooked

[south escarp]

dang good job

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

I need top ten for those 50 logits

[south escarp]

i got top 100 rn im happy

[rough axle]

If I get top 25 and get 30 logits I’ll be 2 off from buying giant squid

[south escarp]

YOU DONT HAVE GIANT SQUID?

[amber canyon]

I thought I might have caught up to the OG DW stashes (having just received my 1k DW prize for the Reboot stuff. But nope. Ah well.

[long ocean]

i am Rank 13 :/

[rough axle]

Not on this save file

[south escarp]

1k DW prize????

[south escarp]

gang im livign under a rock

me discovering this server is like a caveman discovering a cell phone

[amber canyon]

For a screenshot I took during the anomalies in the Reboot hype phase 😁. I should have got the prize earlier, but didn't notice a DM from Aditya 🤦.

[noble dune]

hey

[south escarp]

dang it

i wasnt in this server until just now

[noble dune]

did they remove all the roles of achievements?

[south escarp]

i was wondering the point of the weird glitches before this update

[dry cairn]

Im not sure which augments are the important ones at the moment. If you already have all of them, the beginning levels of things on the upgrade page are worth it.

[noble dune]

i had the space thing cmplete

[south escarp]

goodbye money even

[amber canyon]

Reddit people got prizes too. But yeah, was fun here 🙂. We got looooore!

[south escarp]

lore?!?!??!

[indigo pendant]

9+10=

[south escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/surgery-gif-19239242

flashbacks

[indigo pendant]

Lmao

[amber canyon]

Yeah, secretive government agencies, Semblance talking to us, bits of world-building. It's in the 'containment Layer' channels - specifically the status and Semblance link channels.

[indigo pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-9-plus-10-meme-9-plus-10-21-gif-7165493765559269828

[south escarp]

should i reboot when im so close to fully terraformed environment

What is this big bubble

[amber canyon]

Probably. Buying RE nodes will almost always speed up your primary sim. Although if it's been a while since your last reboot it might take a bit longer.

[south escarp]

im also really close to level 61

so i was thinking id just wait until then

[amber canyon]

Up to you 🙂.

[celest garnet]

Im around that same level as you (62 actually) and I definitely recommend you to as I managed to go from 60 to 62 in just some days after I reset my simulation

You choose tho

[thorny spire]

Want to know why everything so expensive now
Last time I played singularity wasn’t in or around quadrillions (if I’m correct)
Was the re reboot update made everything pricey

Ye it was the re reboot that made stuff expensive

Read the announcement update abt it for once

[tall mirage]

@white egret 153 hr 21 min = 30.184

[south escarp]

how many supporter unlock badges are there

[inner tapir]

i think 3

[south escarp]

well i have 5

is there a 3rd badge for watching ads

oh theres 6

[brazen junco]

3

[south escarp]

i just need to watch more ads

[brazen junco]

Other ones are for beta and sum pre reboot rework stuff

[south escarp]

yeah i have beta, i was here, and neutrino

[brazen junco]

Yeah these ones

[south escarp]

how many ads do i need to watch for ultra thanks

[brazen junco]

Idk man

I wish i could tell you

[south escarp]

devs leak the number

plz

[long ocean]

basically you need 0 because you can get this Archivement by buy DW too

[brazen junco]

Not everybody is that rich tho

[south escarp]

i am strictly free 2 play

[long ocean]

that was not the point ^^

[brazen junco]

[south escarp]

also im broke

[tribal hearth]

Is this caculated like this?

Will I really get an increase that big?

[long ocean]

my multiplier is at x33,38 with nearly 30000 life

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[tall mirage]

nope

[tawdry parrot]

deleted user, what?

doesnt it take very long for a discord account to be deleted

[tribal hearth]

yeah I can see but shouldn't it?

[long ocean]

no

[tribal hearth]

Oh it doesn't take into account the previous increases

[tall mirage]

nah, the description is misleading

[tribal hearth]

yeah it's just 1,001*26000

I guess

[tall mirage]

ehh, not really

It's 0.001x for every life

So every 37000 entropy generators = 38x multi

[long ocean]

not realy it says each life x1,001 so normaly it should be clear that it is your life number *1,001

[tribal hearth]

yeah that's what I said, it's the same

[tall mirage]

shouldn't really be a comma in the first place

it shows as 1.001 on mine, no clue why it shows as , for u

[tribal hearth]

I changed the language from spanish to english bc of some translation bugs and some things stayed in spanish for some reason

that's one of them

[tall mirage]

oh lol

[tribal hearth]

I prefer it like that lmao

[tall mirage]

comma makes it seem like 1001 sooo

[tribal hearth]

They could put an option to change it in the settings honestly

[tribal hearth]

That's for you, not for me

[amber canyon]

Has everybody else had their event prize? And can you see the next event?

[tall mirage]

Ig I just assumed it was taught the same everywhere in maths

[long ocean]

yes and yes

[tribal hearth]

Oh no the world can't agree on anything lmao. Or the USA with the rest of the world

[long ocean]

no . is 1001 because every 3 Numbers from the end you set a point to make it look cleaner

[tall mirage]

yea it is what it is

[tall mirage]

? It's just how we represent decimals, idk what u mean

[tribal hearth]

I hope the bug stays there forever bc I want the game to be in english but the decimal separator to be the comma :(

[long ocean]

just the answer to your comment so you see not everywhere its ,

[tribal hearth]

For example I believe this one is also bugged

[tall mirage]

huh

for some reason I can't react to ur mssg

[tribal hearth]

I can lol

[tall mirage]

I meant to frogerino's mssg

[tribal hearth]

Oh alr

Yeah I can

[tall mirage]

lmaoo this means frogerino blocked me

[fluid delta]

That’s still Custom, it’s still powers of 1000, and it’s even still letters, and fewer of them (1) at that, which fits the pattern, even if K, M, B, T aren’t in alphabetical order, that’s the only part that isn’t.

[tribal hearth]

You use a different decimal sign than me, blocked

lmao

[tall mirage]

[tribal hearth]

oh they meant like 100.000.000,999

I think

[long ocean]

no i havent i have only blocked 2 peeps here and you are nnot one of them

[rough axle]

[fluid delta]

Is anyone close to what? I might have missed it, wading through 700ish comments since last night

[tall mirage]

💀 Yea idk how that even makes sense

[long ocean]

GE

[tall mirage]

I mean prolly . and , are interchanged but

[tribal hearth]

It makes all the sense ._.

[tribal hearth]

exactly

[south escarp]

buying the whole re tree

[tall mirage]

Ah nvm then, prolly a glitch

coz screen shakes and everything

[long ocean]

discord sometimes do weird things but how you see not blocked 😄

[tall mirage]

nahhh tis an abomination

that number format be eradicated from history

[tribal hearth]

No, your notation is an abomination

like . for decimals

wtf

ugly ass notation

[tall mirage]

Only thing that makes sense

[amber canyon]

I can't react to your messages either. Weird.

[tribal hearth]

Why?

[rough axle]

I can

[tribal hearth]

I can too

[tall mirage]

coz that's just how it's been indoctrinated

I can react to his messages now

[tribal hearth]

Well I can say the same 🤣

[tall mirage]

I guess I passed by no react option to Kf

[fluid delta]

I hope to have GE by the end of next month, I think that’s likely

[tribal hearth]

And a big part of the world

[long ocean]

thats what i answered this guy in other words

[tall mirage]

Yea lol

[south escarp]

wait is ge the last one

[tall mirage]

Well the last big one yea

[south escarp]

wait then im done

[tribal hearth]

it's like MM/DD/YYY or the weird units like why can't we all agree on something

[fluid delta]

Oh.. maybe by March (ideas side only), I think I can do that, assuming Mollusks doesn’t come before then and add nodes to RE

[south escarp]

nah im kidding

[south escarp]

is entropy side complete or something?

[long ocean]

you cant have GE without cheating 😄

[tall mirage]

💀 Yea US weird for putting month before date, but oh well

[south escarp]

time flux:

[tribal hearth]

I get so confused whenever I see a date bc if they day is less than 13 I have no idea if it's DD/MM/YY or MM/DD/YY

[long ocean]

waste of DW for nothing 😄

[south escarp]

but if you had enough

[long ocean]

you never can have enough

[fluid delta]

No, Entropy isn’t progressing at all bc of nerf they made to Entropy income with latest patch.. I only have a few nodes left that side, but I have made zero further progression there.

[tribal hearth]

wrong message lol

[tall mirage]

That's why I just say like 29 dec

Yea i noticed lol

[south escarp]

RIP

[fluid delta]

I use 29-Dec-2025, keeps it unambiguous

[tribal hearth]

everyone should, or at least specify what format you're using

[fluid delta]

Heh, I have confidence they’ll fix that with Mollusks update

[tribal hearth]

It's still DD/MM/YY, the superior format 🔥

:P

[amber canyon]

Maybe someone should write an international standard about date formats ... Oh wait ...

[tall mirage]

Nerfing entropy income was fine, issue is making the Entropy TCs linear

[tall mirage]

Even worse, I don't want year to be mentioned first

[fluid delta]

Well yes, I do not disagree, the key is the 3-letters for the month. On PC I will sometimes use YYYY-MM-DD bc of how file sorting/display works

[fluid delta]

Agreed, though they did lower entropy income with this past patch

[tribal hearth]

Your pc uses YYY/MM/DD?

[south escarp]

bro

[amber canyon]

I wonder if that was deliberate or accidental.

If deliberate as a 'focus on ideas this time' thing, then every update people will be pushed one way or the other. Which would be weird for people still progressing.

[south escarp]

its literally december 29

2025

what are we yapping about

[fluid delta]

Dashes not slashes, and yes. Bc alphanumeric order

[tall mirage]

Yea that was to nerf spam rebooters, but they nerfed longer runs also due to TCs lmaoo, that's funny

[south escarp]

thats how you say it

"It is December 29th, 2025"

[fluid delta]

mmhmm! fortunately, I had already spammed Entropy as much as I’d been inclined to, so.. too late? lol

[amber canyon]

Not how I say it 🙂

[tall mirage]

I think it's more like not a lot of thought was put into the entropy side, they just figured if they made it exponential like Idea TCs, then peeps will end up "finishing" the RE nodes

[tribal hearth]

Mine is DD/MM/YY, I guess it's bc it's in spanish

[tribal hearth]

We're talking about numbers not how you actually write it

[tall mirage]

So they decided to make it linear, without actually seeing how long it would actually take to max out the chambers

[south escarp]

so why dont the numbers follow the names?

Month day, year

[tall mirage]

I mean my entropy/s is still faster than before update so lol

I was barely able to get 1500 after 23-24 days

[tribal hearth]

They do, in american english. Not on almost every other language

[amber canyon]

They do! 29th December, 2025.

[tall mirage]

Now I have 1523 in 6 days

[fluid delta]

I’m not talking about date display in the clock area (or date display in Excel or whatever), I mean file naming where I want a date embedded in it. So, 2025-12-28-notes.txt or whatever

[tall mirage]

Only correct way to say the date

[south escarp]

but that sounds wrong?

[amber canyon]

You're American I take it?

[tall mirage]

The middle ticker changing daily while keeping the left and right constant feels wrong

[tribal hearth]

I meant like the date there

[tribal hearth]

fr

[south escarp]

Ok quick pause wtf is this

[tall mirage]

I changed mine to 29-Dec-25 on laptop

[south escarp]

I spent so much dw on getting rank 61

[rough axle]

Unfortunately I’m American but I try to do yyyy/mm/dd just to be different

[tribal hearth]

Isn't that how chinese people write it?

[tall mirage]

the first one this update they introduced

[rough axle]

Idk is it

[tribal hearth]

I think so

[amber canyon]

yyyymmdd- for file names is the way. Imo.

[fluid delta]

Yes, I see what you mean. However, that’s the date fields (there’s 2 of them: created and modified). Sometimes though, it’s useful to have dates embedded in the name, and if you do that, then if you want them to show up properly when you sort by name, you need to do as I mention.

[south escarp]

UNFORTUNATELY???!?!?! YOU LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE 🇺🇸 🦅

[tribal hearth]

Yeah it is

[tribal hearth]

yeah that's true

[fluid delta]

You can add the extra 2 digits in the year, if you want. It’s a little buried in the time/date settings

[rough axle]

If I write in expanded form with words I still do [day of week], [month] [day], [year]

[tall mirage]

Yea I purposely didn't want, if I can't even keep grasp of the decade the file I was made .....

[fluid delta]

Actually , for the date at bottom right, I have it like “Mon, 29-Dec-2025”

[tribal hearth]

It's not buried at all lmao just three clicks

[fluid delta]

not touching that more than this

[south escarp]

oh shoot yeah

[amber canyon]

Lol. I do. Started with work files: it gives future people a chance when hunting through old files. And there's a lot of old files around.

[tall mirage]

Fortunately or unfortunately, I ain't that old yet

[halcyon galleon]

Why was the AI and cyborg side quest removed from the game?

[fluid delta]

mmhmm! and some of mine are from the last millenium, I have some from the 1980s even. I’m a data hoarder, lol

[amber canyon]

Well when you are, you will likely end up swearing at people who name files the way you do 😁.

[rough axle]

I think the reason I do YMD is because of doing this in a story once

[tribal hearth]

God that's soo old

[tall mirage]

if u can't make it difficult for others, then what's even the point

[fluid delta]

You just wait, your time will come! You hope!! 😆

[tribal hearth]

That is if I get there before the world is completely destroyed lmao

[amber canyon]

So in 2026, right?

[tall mirage]

You older than I thought

[fluid delta]

Eh, that’s always been a risk, at least as far as “humanity surviving” kinda thing. Nothing new

[fluid delta]

GenX, yeah

[tribal hearth]

lmao I turn 18 in 2026

I'll get the fucked up economy, yay

[tall mirage]

one foot in the grave ahh

[amber canyon]

Well, I for one don't want the future cockroach archaeologists to disapprove of me.

[fluid delta]

For what it’s worth, I thought about human immortality and all that when I was younger than you!

[fluid delta]

Eh, it comes and goes. It’s the nature of economies to do that

[tribal hearth]

I'm just saying bc spain is going downhill and I don't want to end up like some southamerican countries

[fluid delta]

But maybe I will live long enough to have that repaired. Rejuv therapies, all that? Not great odds for me personally, but still possible

[tall mirage]

We will follow the altered carbon show plotline

[fluid delta]

One could say that about everywhere, really. And.. times have been worse for Spain in the past, than now, way worse.

[fluid delta]

Heh, never watched that

[tribal hearth]

yeah I know, I'm studying this shit rn but idk it doesn't look too promising

[tall mirage]

Basically you can transfer your consciousness into a disk that's located in your spine and hop bodies

[fluid delta]

Ah! Nah, that’s not happening, not this century and maybe not ever. Repair of the damage of aging, that should be doable though.

[amber canyon]

I hope that - whatever happens economy wise - it doesn't lead to a step change from a high to a low equilibrium. E.g. what happened at the end of the (Western) Roman Empire.

[south escarp]

repair it long enough to get to that point?

[tall mirage]

Yea, but fun to imagine

[fluid delta]

Scary times, for sure… not just Spain, but everywhere. If humanity can make it to 2200 CE, with civilization reasonably intact, we should be golden.

[fluid delta]

indeed

[tribal hearth]

what does CE mean, exactly?

[tall mirage]

we be looong dead by then so won't really matter

[south escarp]

common era

[fluid delta]

Agreed. Tech does make “everything local” in a certain sense, so that ought to resist that

[south escarp]

so like right now is 2025 CE

[spare crane]

does anyone have info about new time chambers characteristics? when do they cap out etc

[south escarp]

whats a time chamber

[amber canyon]

You're definitely more optimistic than me 🫤

[fluid delta]

Yes, potentially. You’d need treatment every 10 years or so to do the “human oil change” so to speak

[fluid delta]

There may be edge cases that aren’t. We’ll see.

[south escarp]

oh right

[tribal hearth]

Yeah imagining is pretty fun but rn I just got to make it to june alive lol

[spare crane]

there is dedicated chat to everything not-cells-related #🏠-general

[knotty frigate]

Heya

[spare crane]

just saying

[south escarp]

how do i do the legacy protocal?

[amber canyon]

Fair point 🙂.

[fluid delta]

Heh, I try to be.. in part bc to be otherwise is too depressing, there’s a lot to be depressed about in this world, as you know. As to repairing human aging, I’ve been following that for decades. I’ve even talked a little online with a few known people in the field. It’s interesting to me.

[rough axle]

it was scrapped

[tall mirage]

what are they

[tribal hearth]

You can't anymore