💬-cells-chat

[quasi ivy]

ooo nice u had neutrino expansion

did u just re-enter the game after a while?

[amber canyon]

Yes!

If you had bought everything except Neutrino Expansion before the big Reality Reboot, you got this.

(or including it)

[proven ice]

No been playing a while and AHH yeah I did just about everything just before the beta came out

[long ocean]

@quasi ivy entropy boost entropy speed boost or Metabit Booster what helps the most?

[quasi ivy]

u got extra darwinium if u had neutrino expansion im prety sure

i got 300 but everyone else said that wasnt true

[vestal hawk]

yay i dowloaded beta

[quasi ivy]

metabit def

gives u more metabits so u can get the other upgrade faster aswell

[vestal hawk]

this is good?

[flint monolith]

Time reached singularity in simulation ten: 5:39

[long ocean]

thats good so you can spoiler yourself and can let us spoilerfree 😉

[amber canyon]

If you've just started the post Reality Reboot stuff and want info - there's stuff here - #📢-announcements message . Quite a lot of stuff.

[vestal hawk]

yeah....

but one problem

[quasi ivy]

i really want a youtuber to play the game after the reality reboot

[vestal hawk]

I'm not evolved enough to be a beta

[quasi ivy]

whould lead to them sticking at the game for longer i think

[proven ice]

I did the reboot too during the beta so I'm Working back up and it takes so much longer than before the beta

[long ocean]

so no beta for you ^^

[vestal hawk]

What will happen when the game updates? Will I be stuck in the beta?

[quasi ivy]

yep main sim is actually hard now!

[tawdry parrot]

what lange is this

[quasi ivy]

which i love hehe

[proven ice]

Yeah it's much more fun

[quasi ivy]

4.3 Qaqag now

[long ocean]

damn you are fast

[flint monolith]

Vietnamese

[quasi ivy]

battery battery time to uh

what rhimes with battery and indicated getting something

if such a word even exists

[long ocean]

ouf the last modern mastery will take a bit 💩

[quasi ivy]

i really want them to add dutch to c2s someday so i can get my teachers to play it 🔥

[tawdry parrot]

rattery

[amber canyon]

Oh yeah? How much?

[quasi ivy]

yeah...

i need 6 Sp to max modern mastery out

[amber canyon]

Whattery?

[long ocean]

4.88 SP

[long ocean]

why 6? hmm

[quasi ivy]

since every next upgrade = the last upgrade price X 5

and if we ssay the last one is about 5 Sp

[long ocean]

i am at 9/10 now and it says 4,88 SP 🤔

[quasi ivy]

the second to last one (the one im at rn) is 1 Sp

[lament temple]

Notation Conversion

Converted: 1e24 → 1 Sp

Notation Calculation • Requested by Kf

[quasi ivy]

if u add 1 Sp and 5 Sp you get at the 6 Sp

i got 2 Sp rn

[lament temple]

Notation Conversion

Converted: 1e102 → 1 Ttg

Notation Calculation • Requested by Arthurz1nh00 carioca

[quasi ivy]

thats 100 googol

[lament temple]

Notation Conversion

Unable to convert: Not convertible in-game
-# Starting at E211 (10 Nosxg/NNNN), the game shows scientific notation no matter what option you pick.

Notation Calculation • Requested by Pirate

Notation Conversion

Unable to convert: Not convertible in-game
-# Starting at E211 (10 Nosxg/NNNN), the game shows scientific notation no matter what option you pick.

Notation Calculation • Requested by Arthurz1nh00 carioca

[quasi ivy]

wowah woah waoh

epic spam

[vestal hawk]

i put 1e676767

[quasi ivy]

sigh

4.7 Qaqag now

[lament temple]

Notation Conversion

Converted: 69e69 → 69 Dvg

Notation Calculation • Requested by Pirate

[quasi ivy]

sob

[lament temple]

Notation Conversion

Converted: 1000000000000000000000e1 → 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Notation Calculation • Requested by Pirate

Notation Conversion

Unable to convert: Invalid notation

Notation Calculation • Requested by Arthurz1nh00 carioca

[quasi ivy]

ok maybe stop doing that as it kinda floods the chat

[lament temple]

Notation Conversion

Converted: 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000e1 → 1,000,000,000,000,000,007,448,980,502,074,319,891,441,994,938,583,153,872,359,642,541,312,639,852,467,816,160,263,719,876,373,907,058,408,465,602,602,784,646,283,725,433,832,809,773,183,090,569,241,116,238,837,096,538,897,360,439,214,080

Notation Calculation • Requested by Pirate

[steady dune]

Stop this useless action

[quasi ivy]

hard to start a conversation against... WHAT THE

[tawdry parrot]

lol

do those numbers even make senmse

[quasi ivy]

crazy

[thorny spire]

Probably an outdated as crap question but why are logit events so time consuming I need to like use all 5 fingers to click for a gazillion seconds to get an upgrade that boosts my generator by 1.00001x

[tawdry parrot]

this event looks so fire

[vestal hawk]

how i get darwin SUPER FAST for upgrades

[flint monolith]

🥀

[tawdry parrot]

use autoclicker and yeah the scaling is steep

[quasi ivy]

it really is cool, i just have allot of hate to the event for whatever reason

[lament temple]

Notation Conversion

Converted: 1e128 → 100 Uqag

Notation Calculation • Requested by diablo

[vestal hawk]

i make this more faster than you MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[amber canyon]

Reminder to self ... Use that bot in bot-room ... So people don't get over excited 😬

[quasi ivy]

5 Qaqag guys almost at battery

[thorny spire]

What abt mobile, idk if iOS can auto clicker

[tawdry parrot]

thats why they take 3+ days so u get offline earnings, dont forget to 4x boost

and badges make it faster over time

[thorny spire]

Yeah ur right, I can tolerate watching 7 ads for a 4x boost

[quasi ivy]

im prob gonna start the event later today or tomorrow

[vestal hawk]

Guys, I took my game out of beta and it's updating. Is this normal?

[quasi ivy]

were on the 2 days mark rn

[thorny spire]

But I can’t rn

[tawdry parrot]

i cant tolerate it

[quasi ivy]

samezees

[tawdry parrot]

im too old for this

[quasi ivy]

especially when its super cringe ads

[thorny spire]

Is there autoclicker for iOS or is that just an android thing

[tawdry parrot]

i have to press (x) 4 flipping times

[tawdry parrot]

I dont know, I play on steam

but never use your own fingers in an idle game

[vestal hawk]

in pc i use the gs auto clicker

[quasi ivy]

BATTERY HERE I COMEEEEE

[tawdry parrot]

bad for your finger health

[quasi ivy]

5.25 Qaqag now

[thorny spire]

I look weird as hell when I’m pressing my screen with all 5 fingers in public

Abnormal behavior

[tawdry parrot]

you guys go outside?

[hollow pelican]

Ok

[thorny spire]

Have to every weekend

[steady dune]

Not all of idle games need your fingers to tap that much

[quasi ivy]

OH YE-HES!!!

[thorny spire]

Cells isn’t in all of them

[quasi ivy]

5 whole cubes for that grind

[thorny spire]

For the logit events

[tawdry parrot]

congrasts

[quasi ivy]

triple my idea gain all ya want... nothing beat the ''BIGCUBE'' code

[vestal hawk]

spoilers of beyond 43 ADMS

[quasi ivy]

hm?

[thorny spire]

when was ts in the game

[tawdry parrot]

idk what devices u own but I wouldnt bother with events on the phone

[quasi ivy]

old logit design im prety sure

[subtle nimbus]

finally completed meso valley after 6 years 🙏

[vestal hawk]

and spoilers of mesosoic 67 with prestige 12

[thorny spire]

Yeah so when was it after it turned yellow

[tawdry parrot]

I can only bear grinding events because I can autoclick while watching youtube on my second monitor

I couldn't for the life of me just sit there

[quasi ivy]

wait for prestige 69 rank 420

[vestal hawk]

aura

[quasi ivy]

idk when they released logits which was at the philosophy event im prety sure

before that events actually used to give cubes!

[quasi ivy]

ggs i feel your pain of going trough that grind

[thorny spire]

Can I ask smth what’s best to upgrade on the reality engine for just started game

[quasi ivy]

what options do you have

[thorny spire]

Here’s what it looks like rn

[tawdry parrot]

figuring that out is the fun part 😅

[quasi ivy]

leemme see

[tawdry parrot]

if u dont know u can follow the marked upgrades

[quasi ivy]

can u also give me ur beest generator rn for both ideas and entropy

[thorny spire]

I haven’t played the game the whole day that’s why 2k metabits

[quasi ivy]

fair

[quasi ivy]

@thorny spire

[tall mirage]

I feel like for someone who's just started playing, they should reboot frequently, like as soon as you see 7-8 upgrades in RE, you should reboot

[hollow pelican]

miss the green object tbh

[amber canyon]

Broadly speaking I'd say things that affect Sim speed > things that affect Metabits/Knowledge > things that affect Entropy / Ideas.

[thorny spire]

Jst finished screnshoting

[quasi ivy]

alr alr

[thorny spire]

What abt sim speed, does it effect overall

[quasi ivy]

then first max out primoridial power, then do a quick reset till u have 2k mettabits again and buy entropy quadrupler
for knowledge just buy the tripler when u get enough for that (u can also buy ancient power but idk if thats the best idea)

[quasi ivy]

sim speed boosts both ideas and entropy gain basically

[strange wing]

Yes bro sim speed is entropy and idea

[thorny spire]

I see

[thorny spire]

I’ll go offline till 30 knowledge

Abt to sleep anyway

[amber canyon]

You can look in the stats page of the RE if you want detail. It might even be not too massive for you (yet), should help you get a grip on what's going on.

[quasi ivy]

alr gl

[thorny spire]

How far are nanobots now

b4 engine reboot they were quite near

[quasi ivy]

nanobots are 6 upgrades to the right of the reality engine node

[thorny spire]

Are they expensive

[quasi ivy]

1.33 Trillion

for all 12

[thorny spire]

For 1

[quasi ivy]

idk how much for each one though

[thorny spire]

The first one how abt that

[amber canyon]

If you want Hardik did the whole tree (up till recently) here - #1450392242786402377 message

[lean fern]

i wonder whats in beyond E30

[quasi ivy]

dont know that either since i alr had them maxed out when i first got on reality reboot

[strange wing]

Smth new

[amber canyon]

Truism: Everything is expensive when you first see it; and then a few reboots later the cost is negligible. (Generally).

[thorny spire]

Alr, does singularity still force reset everything, Im still getting in the game after months

[quasi ivy]

yeah but doesnt reset all your RE stuff

[thorny spire]

I see

[quasi ivy]

just force resets ur main sim as ussual

[thorny spire]

Ok

[terse vigil]

messing with the levers...

[tawdry parrot]

its like a different game

[terse vigil]

will it give darwinium?
probably not

[tawdry parrot]

singularity still hasnt done anything for me

[quasi ivy]

that coins being eexactly on its side on the bar is very cool at the start

[quasi ivy]

u got force reset

[tawdry parrot]

but nothing changed

[quasi ivy]

yeah

[amber canyon]

@terse vigil Hey did you get your DW prize yet? I realised I'd missed a message from Aditya asking for my ID so they could send it to me.

[quasi ivy]

maybe || u get 10 free darwinium if u deposit each currency atleast 3 times ||

[strange wing]

It's good for the first and second challenge. At 3 maybe not

[tawdry parrot]

singularity is in the name of the game

[steady dune]

Just ignore || the upgrade that costs to unlock at 3 or higher ||

[vestal hawk]

i maked rebirth and;;;

..

67 lions

[quasi ivy]

roar

[hollow pelican]

rot

[vestal hawk]

i unlocked sonic

[hollow pelican]

Ok.

[vestal hawk]

the atomic 67

guys wheres the android and cyborg

[steady dune]

Deleted "

[vestal hawk]

why

how get this

[steady dune]

Maybe too hard to get them or redo the cell tree

Put your game screenshots in #🏆-share-your-prestige

[vestal hawk]

ok but the horizon spotter how ge

get

[keen mango]

what should i do with my 109 DW

[long ocean]

is it just me or does the last 3 steps on a beyond lvl takes longer than all others together? (it feels like it)

[steady dune]

Reach beyond stage 25 or something

[frozen grove]

hi

[brazen junco]

Save

[keen mango]

yeah but on what

[tawdry parrot]

so cute

[acoustic jolt]

Beyond progress

[fluid delta]

Not sure how far you are in the game, but from start to current endgame, you will need to spend maybe 5000 on permanent stuff. At least that, maybe more (I haven’t looked)

[acoustic jolt]

Legend, not sure now. Used to be a lot of metabits but that was pre-Reboot
Sonic Speedster, I think <2m singularity time but it may have been increased.

[keen mango]

I'm lvl 59 primary, lvl 29 meso, and lvl 20 beyond

[long ocean]

o.o

[steady dune]

It's || 3 minutes || now

[long ocean]

how long you play?

[keen mango]

Few hours, been playing since aug 2020

[fluid delta]

You’ll still need plenty. I think I was at 52 when the revamp arrived, and I needed around 5000 from that point? I’m 73. maybe 74 now (I haven’t looked this morning yet), and I still haven’t bought all the metabits stuff yet

[acoustic jolt]

Ahh. Not sure I've seen that post-reboot
But also I haven't tried for it since I got it a few versions back

[lament temple]

How do I get progression roles?

• The way roles used to work in the Cells Discord server is through a fancy feature called “Linked Roles.” An update a few months ago broke the linked roles system, and because linked roles have been broken for so long, the moderators have decided to revert to the old method of assigning game progression roles: manually. Post screenshots of your progress in #🏆-share-your-prestige, and you might get some snazzy roles if your progress meets certain requirements.
  -# In case you want to look at the requirements, please click on the server's top bar, then select 'Linked Roles'. You can view the requirements of each role there.

Frequently Asked Questions • Requested by Kf

[amber canyon]

Discord role info above. But note #🏆-share-your-prestige message . And one of the mods/Devs confirmed that the ||super speedy time|| was wrong in the channel info here - #💬-cells-chat message - it's ||2 mins||.

[rough axle]

I have hit a wall

[rough axle]

No?

[subtle nimbus]

i'm pretty sure it used to be 2 and 5 minutes but they nerfed it

[amber canyon]

Just passing on what Sampe said. They may be wrong - Idk/c 🤷.

[tawdry parrot]

how are there so many secret achievements

[quasi ivy]

wait beyond unlocks those generators now? thats actually so peak

[quasi ivy]

cuz we love secrets

[dry cairn]

People asked for more so they started adding a new one every few months.

[quasi ivy]

getting all the sharks is the first one

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[tawdry parrot]

for me trex was first

[hazy river]

He meant it is in the first place of the achievement order.

[tawdry parrot]

got it

[acoustic jolt]

oh no
you have to play the game.....

The norror.

L3eaving that typo.

[tawdry parrot]

how are ur side simulations so low

[hazy river]

Its his second or third acc so he doesnt play them so often.

[rough axle]

focusing primary

dont worry my pc save is research level 77 with max beyond and prestige 5 meso

[vestal hawk]

Bro I have this achievements

[quasi ivy]

i mean the first achievement in the row

if u dont have it its the first empty gap

[vestal hawk]

I want the sonic speedster of simulation and simulation speedster in discord

@rough axle

[vestal hawk]

How I get this I have achievements

[lament temple]

How do I get progression roles?

• The way roles used to work in the Cells Discord server is through a fancy feature called “Linked Roles.” An update a few months ago broke the linked roles system, and because linked roles have been broken for so long, the moderators have decided to revert to the old method of assigning game progression roles: manually. Post screenshots of your progress in #🏆-share-your-prestige, and you might get some snazzy roles if your progress meets certain requirements.
  -# In case you want to look at the requirements, please click on the server's top bar, then select 'Linked Roles'. You can view the requirements of each role there.

Frequently Asked Questions • Requested by Jolly Arch Dux

[rough axle]

@vestal hawk

[vestal hawk]

Thx

How I get the beyond's roles and mesosoic's roles what print I need to send

I will send all my beyond all meso all primary all events all all

[long ocean]

someone posted the same 2 Hours ago after you asked perharps sometimes read the Chat would be good 😄

[vestal hawk]

🫠

[tawdry parrot]

did he get banned?

whys he starting a new account

[hazy river]

Because he got everything on his main and so he started again.

[rough axle]

no

[long ocean]

he wrote it arround 30 Min ago here 🙈

🤔

[tawdry parrot]

virus

[strange lark]

<@&535129309648781332> virus

[long ocean]

<@&535129309648781332> i am not sure what that zip is and i dont wanna find out

[strange lark]

dont click ts guys

[hollow haven]

!ban 670340111245770752 posting sussy zips

[bright otter]

Banned btibor047 (Case #4132) (user notified with a direct message)

[tawdry parrot]

its a folder thats been compressed basically

[hazy river]

Why did you click on the zip?

[tawdry parrot]

they like using zips because theyre harder to scan

[tawdry parrot]

downloading it wont do anything and I wanted to test it

I didnt get a degree in this for nothing

[fluid delta]

A degree in what?

[tawdry parrot]

degreeing

[fluid delta]

uh huh

[tawdry parrot]

oh my science, we put a rover on mars

its so sad that we are currently trying to get to mars whereas a moon base is so much more realistic and useful

https://tenor.com/view/spacex-fusee-gif-15957000773761468756

this thing will need 20 refills in orbit to get to mars, not happening

@quasi ivy nanobots are autoclickers?

[quasi ivy]

bascally

but they arent as strong as autoclickers

[tawdry parrot]

do they work in events?

[hazy river]

Jep.

[tawdry parrot]

busted

with pass

[long ocean]

not realy because they are still bad in gain

[short copper]

I don’t think we will go to Mars any time soon, if ever. We tend to only go places when there’s a particular need, or pressure to go. The moon… maybe… the problem again though is, why do we need to, at least, right now?

[tawdry parrot]

for mining

its also way easier to launch spaceships from there, if we manage to produce fuel there

[short copper]

Maybe, but it won’t be fossil fuels.

[tawdry parrot]

at least, according to this video

https://youtu.be/lihWYmQTQ2U

we're 'going' to mars cause mr musk is a grifter

[short copper]

Musk isn’t going to get us anywhere. He is a failure, and mostly a moron.

[tawdry parrot]

I do like watching starship tests live

[fallen carbon]

Hey guys, I could use some help. im watching at "what to buy with logits" diagram, could you tell me what is "Hdc" in "2.5E51/Hdc" please ?

[short copper]

I only ever watch to see if they will crash, fairly soon after launch. That’s the only hope I have.

Then I weep thinking about that much money being wasted… by anyone.

[amber canyon]

https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Notation

[fallen carbon]

Thank you !

[little fox]

On the money event can you get the 10 darwinium payout multiple times?

[hazy river]

Jep.

[amber canyon]

Oh! I just read your message, rather than just answering the notation question.

Be aware that the 'what to buy with logits' diagram is from before the Reality Reboot. The order is (almost certainly) different now!

[little fox]

Awesome thanks

[fallen carbon]

Alright thank you, I have no idea anyway so I'll do some mistakes anyway which is okay

[hazy river]

Just do a local save and than buy a logit. Reload the local save buy another logit and see which one is the best.

[amber canyon]

For example, in the before times there were only three entropy generators that mattered: jellyfish, glires and feliforms. Once you had access to them everything else was irrelevant.

[fallen carbon]

I guess it's mor balance now

At least more constant

[fallen carbon]

Noted!

[amber canyon]

Yeah. The compliers and capacitors mean that buying anything is usually somewhat worthwhile. It's 'build wide' rather than 'build tall' now. I think. Although checking the stats page to find out which garden is your main producer is a good idea too.

[fallen carbon]

Oh yeah never thaught of that

Primordial Soup - Ocean and Land are almost even and way higher than the other

Nice tip

[tribal flame]

how is that any different than just hitting upgrade and using your metabits

[quasi ivy]

yes they do

[short copper]

Also, as long as you complete events at least once as they come and go, you will soon have enough logits to purchase everything, as by now many players have. So it won’t be so much of a thinking, it will be just doing. Won’t take long. Maybe 6 months or so.

[tawdry parrot]

stop looking at guys that tell u what to do

[short copper]

My top generators

So yeah, primordial, at least in end game. For players who cannot yet reach those upgrades though, maybe it’s different. I’m not sure.

[amber canyon]

Before being able to buy ||Primordial Power VII 7-ish|| I think most people's ||land garden|| is the most productive.

[short copper]

Maybe. Do you remember what garden amphibians fall?

[amber canyon]

Land? At a guess 😁.

[short copper]

They seem to be top for me, if not primordial.

[amber canyon]

The nature of an idle game that's still being updated: the most recent thing added is most likely to be the most powerful.

[short copper]

Facts. Thx for the perspective.

Mollusks are going to make a 1e5 jump. That’s about what they did from what I remember before they hid them again.

[amber canyon]

It's clearly the ||Ocean garden's|| turn 😁.

[median harbor]

what's more befecifial? being 24/7 with an clicker in an event or being afk and coming in the game every # minutes/hours and doubling the offline gains ? both scenarios are at max booster.... x4,,,

[short copper]

I find that once you get tired of clicking, closing the game (minimizing the window) is as good, or nearly as good as having been actively clicking the whole time. It takes 3 minutes for the game to assess offline earnings, so always wait for at least that long before checking your earnings again.

[long ocean]

2 minutes

[short copper]

2? Oh okay. Though I swear I waited 2m20 seconds once, and it did not give offline earnings. So maybe it’s at least 2:30. I don’t think 2:00 will do.

[long ocean]

it shows me 2 minutes many times

[short copper]

Very well

[long ocean]

but yes better wait a bit longer

[median harbor]

asked chatgpt the same thing and said that waiting is always better than clicking...

[median harbor]

also wdym tired of clicking? i said autoclicker. i do nothing

[tall mirage]

that's the LEAST of what u did

[short copper]

Either way, autoclicker or not.

[median harbor]

wdym ? :3

[tall mirage]

I remember the SS you've sent

[median harbor]

what ss

:3

i did nothing

[tall mirage]

Yea u did nothing

[median harbor]

thats what i just said

:3

[tall mirage]

yea so did I

you did nothing

[median harbor]

yes, nothing

:3

anyways

[short copper]

I don’t know what the clicking limits of autoclicker are, but I can manage about x3 speed increase with just three or four fingers.

[tall mirage]

I said nothing, not nothing

very diff things

[median harbor]

ok....?

[median harbor]

well mine is 2 clicks per milisecond

so....

many.

[short copper]

I use iOS, so I won’t be using it so much. If I am going to compete with people using tools that I don’t have, then I’ll just manipulate time, and I have no personal issues doing that.

[median harbor]

i do both :3

and i use it on my laptop...

[short copper]

Niceee

Just be careful, because it can land you in Div 666, like it did me.

[median harbor]

i wont be in 666

next time save ur stuff

:3

[frigid adder]

Istg there's bots in ts chat

[median harbor]

wild

[short copper]

Well that ship has sailed. I didn’t know it was that simple at the time.

[median harbor]

lol

[short copper]

But it is okay. I have more logits than I can ever spend, and being an iOS beta player, I get darwinium for free.

[frigid adder]

There js have to be, how else do you think ts chat gets 50+ messages every ten minutes?

[median harbor]

by.... talking?

[short copper]

Haven’t seen any bots.

[median harbor]

interesting. how so? i even boosted this server and got nothing

[short copper]

I didn’t boost the server at all. I just play events over and over again.

[tall mirage]

first time bro is an active server

[frigid adder]

Ts cells chat. If that was true, why doesn't general do the same? (Plus there's a bot problem)

[frigid adder]

By bot problem I mean the friend bots

[median harbor]

cause this is cells? its about the game

so...

[median harbor]

i know. im just saying

[short copper]

This seems to be the place where people come to talk about cells. The off-topic general chat is simply not as busy traffic. Plus we don’t want to be bogged down in off-topic stuff.

[median harbor]

irrelevant too

[short copper]

iOS users in the beta can literally purchase darwinium cubes from the shop, and not get charged. I don’t know why it is that way, but it is. So I can click 5000 cubes all day long, and the charge is zero.

[median harbor]

…..huh

👁️ 👁️

[frigid adder]

Thx for explaining. Also, where did the eagles go? Did they need to update the augment?

[vestal hawk]

THIS IS BRAZIL IS 300+

[vestal hawk]

i'm from brazil

[short copper]

Not sure. Sometimes they hide things again after initial release. If there is a black diamond “eagle” trophy entry, it’s not available right now. This is the only eagle-related thing I have.

[vestal hawk]

😔

[frigid adder]

It seems a bit weird to hide an upgrade 3ish years after it was released. Are they going to revamp that part of Neoaves?

[short copper]

My guess is yes. There’s usually no reason to take something away without reason, if you know what I mean.

[short copper]

Ouch

[median harbor]

What the fu-

It works !

[hazy river]

Did you buy something or how did you get that rat?

[lucid saffron]

hi everyone!

where can i see the game codes? 👀

[vestal hawk]

I WILL PRINT THE PRICES OF BRAZILLL

[median harbor]

Just bought.

[vestal hawk]

I'M FROM BRAZIL ;-;

[median harbor]

It works on iPhone only I think.

Idk about android. Steam DOESNT work.

[hazy river]

Ah okay thanks.

[vestal hawk]

THIS IS THE PRICE OF 500

[median harbor]

Oh. Did you try to get on Live from beta ?

[vestal hawk]

5000 DARWIN

guys is possible to complete 100% with no p2w

???

[short copper]

I don’t know what you mean by get on live from beta. I am using beta, and that is what happens when I go to purchase. Without beta, I have to pay.

[vestal hawk]

guys is possible to complete 100% with no p2w
....??

[long ocean]

why ask the same question 2 times in 2 Minutes? lol

[vestal hawk]

is possible or not?

[fallow gull]

I just started any tips for me

[hazy river]

Yes.

[short copper]

But now, well… congrats! 😉

[vestal hawk]

upgrade your game

[vestal hawk]

yay

[hazy river]

Why sjouldnt it be not possible? There arent any things you cant get without paying.

[vestal hawk]

it's because it takes a long time to complete, especially in this update ;-;

[median harbor]

get out from beta

give up

[vestal hawk]

my english is bad srry

[median harbor]

revert to live

[short copper]

Oh, no, if you re-install the regular build, then you are back to paying again. You have to be in the beta.

[median harbor]

no....

get 50000 darwinium and get back to live

[short copper]

You will not lose it.

[median harbor]

....nvm ill test it myself

[short copper]

You retain it

And no charges.

[tawdry parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/crane-brazil-grab-poor-car-gif-17372636

[median harbor]

just hope my save isnt fried

[median harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/brazil-mordekaiser-gif-5435322123100200200

[vestal hawk]

stop bro ;-;

my english is bad too

[median harbor]

it works...... IT WORKS. BHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[median harbor]

wild

[short copper]

Yes

Happy trails

[vestal hawk]

how get 50000 darwin

[median harbor]

uwu

[tawdry parrot]

make it better

[vestal hawk]

eu falo portugues tambem..

eu finjo que nao percebo

[tawdry parrot]

are u real femboy?

[median harbor]

im a femboy ENJOYER

:3

[vestal hawk]

guys i want 50000 darwinn

[vestal hawk]

.

[tawdry parrot]

how do u enjoy them 🤔

[vestal hawk]

sla

[short copper]

Five thousand. Not fifty thousand.

[vestal hawk]

how get this darwinn

i want

tendeu

[median harbor]

buy the 5000 one 10 times

XD

[vestal hawk]

eu vou falar portuga aq kk

e canon chat

[short copper]

Yes, that’s what we have to do.

[vestal hawk]

how get the darwins

responde man

agoraaa

fcjseljiktgvhliemfc

[short copper]

But so much effort.

[vestal hawk]

how get bro

pls

fala

[median harbor]

worth it lol

[median harbor]

with my hands and lips :3

[short copper]

We already told you. Beta, iOS device.

[median harbor]

wat

[vestal hawk]

told again

i will try this

but need to buy in beta to get the darwin or no

[short copper]

You need to click the purchase button in the iOS beta version.

[vestal hawk]

how get ios beta

[short copper]

And trust that it won’t charge you, as it says it will not.

If it does not say that, then don’t purchase.

[vestal hawk]

i will try in beta steam

[short copper]

No

ONLY iOS will do.

You can get on beta with Steam all you want, but no free darwinium.

One of us did say that several times.

[vestal hawk]

I can put my progress in the cloud for iOS and get the Darwin stuff and then switch back

[short copper]

Ah, okay. As long as at some point, you are accessing beta with iOS.

[blazing prism]

the year

is going to end soon

[long ocean]

🤔

[amber canyon]

I do hope that they separate the beta testers out into their own leaderboards again.

Obvs including anybody with an account that has ever been involved in beta, not just current beta testers.

[short copper]

As a beta player, I would support that.

[tawdry parrot]

noooo

[amber canyon]

As an alpha player (on my second account) whose main account (only ever normal) somehow got beta tagged I'd support it too 🙂.

[short copper]

I have been both, but I don’t know the term “beta tagged” you are using.

[amber canyon]

In the before times when you looked at a player's profile, sometimes they had 'beta' on it in a little box.

Generally (I think) all those players were on the beta leaderboards. But some were in the normal leaderboards.

[short copper]

I see. I don’t think I was ever really paying attention to any of that.

[amber canyon]

I was trying to find out how many times each event had been run for normal players. I needed to exclude the beta and ex-beta players 🙂.

Just checked, my account (for me at least) still has the beta tag (top left).

[muted dew]

Yep, my account has beta tag too. And tag [BETA] in leaderboard

Are leaderboards different for players with and without tags? How do I access the normal, non-beta leaderboard, hmhm?

[amber canyon]

They used to be. I don't think they are any more? But I rolled back to 42_24 so can't check.

[warm lodge]

Human Civ is finally taking over and earning MORE than the rest of the animal world. Idea over Entropy.

[fluid delta]

The further you get, the more it will do that, until the difference is immense!

[warm lodge]

Slowly building my time chambers and crystals.

[dry cairn]

It is neat to finally see idea overtake entropy.

[near python]

how to get beta cell to singularity?

[kindred hound]

Follow the steps on #🚪-how-to-join-beta .

[kindred hound]

At this point, I'm actually grinding for the knowledge upgrades on the reality engine. There's a lot of them.

[clever knot]

Its been a year since a space update im so sad 😞

[frigid adder]

Don't worry

[charred musk]

Ones coming soon

Scroll up and you might find some leaks

Nevermind too far

Hm seems the messages got deleted

[frigid adder]

It's against the rules to beta share, so that's why they got deleted

[charred musk]

I'll get banned again one day

Industrial revolution update coming after the mollusks maybe

[latent gate]

Industrial one and scientific one are different?

[charred musk]

Wdym?

The industrial revolution 2 is coming after the mollusks

99% sure unless they changed their minds

How are people earning QIG's in the primary I can barely pull that off in the beyond?

[desert pebble]

😶

I've only seen this now

So, Beyond will finally be done next year in the first semester next year it seems

I wonder, will the devs modify some of the previous upgrades in Beyond to keep up with recent discoveries by E30?

[kindred hound]

Well I hope so! The previous upgrades, especially the phase 1 and 2 upgrades are kind of left out after you upgrade them all.

[terse vigil]

alright

it is confirmed

this event gives you free darwinium

10 for one completion

and maybe a one-time thing only.

[dry cairn]

It will give you 10 each time. Be careful to not buy the upgrade that costs darwinium. It will cost 4 on the 2nd run and 16 on the 3rd run.

[terse vigil]

wow this sure is meta (i can't find the right word)

why tho.

why even have this upgrade.

[dry cairn]

Agree. It shouldn't be there, or atleast not be affected by the 4x cost increase each run.

[dry cairn]

In the end game, Beyond is still a higher number than Primary.

[rapid island]

Will we have Exploration Season 3 in the future?

[hallow hawk]

in mesozoic valley, getting one geode at a time is worth it if you want hundreds of darwinium

you can open 20 geodes at once and you're still capped at the same 3 that you could get with one geode

[sand goblet]

Uhhh.

I googled and it's twice the diameter of earth. Meaning it's 8 times the volume. Meaning it's about the same density as Earth

[twin sundial]

What are these?

[dry cairn]

Future content.

[kind turtle]

😮‍💨✌️67

[rough axle]

Mass and volume are not the same thing

[kind turtle]

67

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/michelle-tomlinson-does-not-want-finn-as-mod-gif-17112295783149218487

[slim jay]

does this reset if I prestige Mesozoic Valley?

i could have sworn that it did the last time i prestiged but that might have been before the update

[frigid adder]

Large updates yet to come

[dry cairn]

I assume it does.

[slim jay]

thank you. I'll just leave Mesozoic alone then

[desert pebble]

I prestiged a while ago, and, being in extinction 49, it seems to stay at the original 50 from before reseting

[spring dome]

the cowrie shell invasion continues

[terse vigil]

this is gold.

[desert flax]

[near python]

guys wasn't there something here before (i missed a lot cuz i haven't played in months)

[terse vigil]

there were, yeah.

cyborgs, superhumans and colonists

now removed, probably for future rework plans.

[desert flax]

Eric I'm not there yet

[mellow carbon]

But you're close.

[amber canyon]

Huh, that's new info, and makes me glad I didn't save up my geodes to open all at once.

[near python]

oh

[amber canyon]

I have a feeling not? That it stays at 50.

However, subsequent Meso runs are easier once you've prestiged. You get a new trait that boosts your income (just remember to keep activating it).

If you have spare DW or geodes, is a good idea to use them at rank 50 - you get a log more for your money. And will make runs even easier (still boring though).

[hallow hawk]

for now, the only benefit to the main sim past extinction 50 is as a darwinium source

hope is either tirassic terminator will be updated to count prestige or a new reality upgrade will

[amber canyon]

True that it's only currently useful as for DW.

I hope that prestiges won't get a RE node though - so people will only have to play through it if they want the DW, not to get RE / Primary progress.

[frail mason]

looking at the positions, we might get plants and more future content

[quasi ivy]

i think the paper cash is trying to go out of bounds here

and here you see me trying to break open the coin vault

[long ocean]

Police notified

[quasi ivy]

my hatred for the money event is unmatched

[long ocean]

i dont have any chance again for top 10 🙁 i try to hold Top 25 now

36qi after 1D23H 🙈 i need 256 qi and after 512 qi this will take some time i guess

[near python]

it's hard fr, i'm stuck at top 20

[wicked python]

hey guys umm can i test beta E29 pls (im on PC rn)

[long ocean]

i dont know if you can ^^ but you can try https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1200105190896975902

[wicked python]

im in the server rn and go 2 Beyond theres no "Upgrade Universe"

nvm i saw it

[fallen carbon]

is it a good idea to balance research ships between entropy and idea please ?

[round mulch]

Should i buy Iota, kappa or lambda module?

[quasi ivy]

get to rank 18 in beyond

anyway completed the event

within like 2 hours

i started at 1d and 5 hours so checks out

[long ocean]

so enough time for challenges on you favourite event 🤣

[amber canyon]

2h? That's fast!

Also, you have a weird balance of Logits to badges compared to me - I have 9k Logits and 180% boost for this event (is one of the events I've done least though).

[quasi ivy]

did it in like 1 hour and 30 minutes but yeah

[quasi ivy]

prob cuz i had a long logit break and i have everythjng in the logit store

[subtle nimbus]

what's semblance doing next to some upgrades, is it a recommendation

[amber canyon]

I also try and rank top 10 (for the black holes).

[quasi ivy]

like didnt do any exploration events for like half a year if not more

and before that break i never placed high

[subtle nimbus]

in the top right corner of the green box

[quasi ivy]

yep

thats what semblance recommends you to get, even tho sometimes she gets a bit unrealistic

[amber canyon]

a bit

[quasi ivy]

for example ♥️

[subtle nimbus]

lmao she dumb as hell then

[long ocean]

a bit is funny 😄 i have some knowledge upgrades open and it want the GE 😄

[quasi ivy]

she really wants me to get all semblance ahh icon upgrades

[subtle nimbus]

yeah i had a x5 sim speed and she hopped on to some increase idea efficiency by 0.08 barely even saw the good upgrade

[quasi ivy]

she did it with quark expansion too when that was the hard one to get

[quasi ivy]

she needs some tweaking i guess

[amber canyon]

For me she was obsessed with Primordial Power VII too. From a long time before it was relevant.

[quasi ivy]

she only stayed at primordial until i maxed it for me 😭

now shes stuck at the mettabit increase upgrade

😭

[long ocean]

here primodial too

[near python]

alr

[long ocean]

2 steps away from beyond 18 the last step will be horror 🙁

[strange wing]

These episodes are going to be a nightmare lol

[grizzled lance]

I tried to figure out exactly what bonus the time chambers give you. It doesn't seem like it's any round numbers, which is slightly surprising? 🙃
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/hk9tw7y7mf

(doesn't consider the max multiplier of any of them, but that only kicks in after, like, 36 hours)

[grizzled lance]

I didn't even know those could give you darwinium until recently. Any idea what the chance is?

[wicked python]

what is that

[long ocean]

something that only 1 % will understand 😄

i have no idea what that means i am not a mathematician

[grizzled lance]

This upgrade in the reality engine 🙂

[wicked python]

me too

[long ocean]

we know what upgrade it is but still only 1% will understand this graph

its to complicated with all this math

[grizzled lance]

Is it that? 😅

Oh well

[wicked python]

hey soo is E31 comming soon? (look at the Beyond after E30)

[thin forum]

Hey guys how to Connect my account from PC to mobile?

[quasi ivy]

what happend here

[spring dome]

cowrie shells

[wicked python]

log in acc click on menu click on save manager and crossform saves click on view and click on "upload to cloud" at the save below the top one and click on "Download to this Device" and done (i hope this help u) :>

[round mulch]

Should i buy Iota, kappa or lambda module?

[wicked python]

idk again ._.

[quasi ivy]

what generator are ya at rn?

if u still need to complete both the entropy and idea side, u buy lambda

otherwise i suggest buying Iota

and buy kappa if u only got entropy generators left

[thin forum]

I can't log in it dosent let me:/

[amber canyon]

Did you create an account?

Apologies if this sounds insulting, but have seen many people here just try putting their Gmail details in.

[round mulch]

Im tryna focus on entropy rn cause my idea side is kinda stalled

My main entropy producer is amphibians at the moment

[thin forum]

On PC i am logged in
I tried to log in On phone and it Says "Connected you can return to game" Then i return and its not connected

[quasi ivy]

then lambda is prob the best

[subtle nimbus]

does metabit/knowledge efficiency just multiply them

[amber canyon]

Did you create an account? With this button?

[thin forum]

No

Because it dosent let me

It Says "sending verification code to ur email" And i get nothing

[amber canyon]

In which case I suggest DM-ing Cells Support. They're probably on a break though, so you may not get a quick answer.

[thin forum]

Ye but it will be too late

Because im going on a trip and i wanted to claim presents from phone

At this point i can't

[amber canyon]

Sorry, I can't help any more.

Although the advent calender presents may hang around till you collect them, idk. I know you can leave them for a few days, but don't know what will happen at the end.

[sand goblet]

I think the first might be 1.0000625^seconds, second 1.0000585^seconds, third 1.0000545, and fourth 1.00005

[sand slate]

I thought they were linear

[sand goblet]

apparently not!

[fluid delta]

There’s a bunch of time generators, they run at slightly different rates and have different caps. As well, your efficiency/conversion matters, idk if there is any way you can make a graph that’ll reflect actual knowledge gains. That said, I’ve recorded rough numbers since I’ve been idle, in terms of “number of quick reboots (spamming) equivalent:

``
Assumes autoclicker on at all times

1d 0h 16x
2d 0h 80x
3d 0h 200x
4d 0h 565x
5d 0h 1300x
6d 0h 2580x
7d 0h 5500x ?
8d 0h 8500x ?

``

Results at the end are a bit off bc of a mistake on my part. It should keep rising until day 11

[sand goblet]

yeah but in terms of the raw number from the time generator, I think it's exponential based on those digits I posted to the number of seconds

there's also a metabit time crystal which is probably more relevant than the entropy ones...

oh but there's no metabit time crystal 2 while there is a knowledge time crystal 2. that might be why I'm struggling more to advance on metabits

[hazy river]

How can I ping mods?

[long ocean]

<@&535129309648781332> we have work for you

[amber canyon]

<@&535129309648781332> crypto scam #💬-cells-chat message

[amber canyon]

We were both slower than General chat this time 🙂

[long ocean]

you was slow 😄 i pressed enter short after it was gone 😄

[amber canyon]

I had a copy and paste moment ... In my defence I was making a cup of tea 🙂

[long ocean]

defense rejected

[rough axle]

Found a really old bug that hasn’t been patched yet

Well, I guess “rediscovered” would be a better term

[hazy river]

Which one is it?

Ah saw it.

[rough axle]

https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1138884140343775353

[acoustic jolt]

Uh. Should a sim reboot cause the app to hang after getting uraniborg?

[hazy river]

Nope?

[acoustic jolt]

SSD is pinned af

[acoustic jolt]

I might just throw out the metabits and knowledge then.

[hazy river]

Just restart the app.

[sand goblet]

van maanan's star quantity would be a good name for a band

[acoustic jolt]

Ehhhhhh?

[sand goblet]

oh you just noticed those? yeah go spend those chips

[fallow anchor]

They get very op

[sand goblet]

yeah you have 2048x whatevfer you put into both if you just spend them all

because it's a 2x bonus every time you spend 10

[static pagoda]

wow

[acoustic jolt]

No, no

I had spent all of them. Had.

But after the hang they were all refunded

[sand goblet]

oh. huh.

[acoustic jolt]

Oh. Also the last amphibian quest is back.

[steady dune]

Good--
-# and instantly reboot after it

[acoustic jolt]

Nice!

[quasi ivy]

my wallet in a nutshell (also a money bill is trying to go out of bounds again)

[long ocean]

Beyond 18 finally 🎉

[acoustic jolt]

Woohoo!

[fluid delta]

Cells glitches like that every now and then, idk why. Either respend or reload from a save, to fix

Sometimes it’ll even give you more than you had before!

[quasi ivy]

im reading all the achievements rn

while i wait for comets to spawn

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[quasi ivy]

ggs, next event... maybe even this one u will be able to get a black hole if u get top 10

[quasi ivy]

woah woah woah

[long ocean]

no chance again this time sadly

[dense kraken]

Hi

[lofty galleon]

yo

[long ocean]

but other question shouldnt the black hole pop up on beyond? it still shows this blue ugly thingie 😄 or did i understand anything wrong?

[acoustic jolt]

Re-spent, now offline while I wait to finish the amphibian branch + sci rev 2

And catch main Sim up to where the devs are :p

[fluid delta]

You mean complete Primary, or complete Reality Engine?

[acoustic jolt]

Primary, maybe RE

I.e. get all the unlocks for scientific revolution v2

[quasi ivy]

even when u started late... damn

[quasi ivy]

progress in beyond 18

im prety sure it appears later

[long ocean]

thx

[acoustic jolt]

Blue ugly thingie?

[quasi ivy]

the blue star

the 100 darwinium thing for season 1 beyond

[acoustic jolt]

???
I'm not sure what you're talking about, can- ahhhh

That blue star.

[quasi ivy]

yeah

also no disrespect to blue stars 😭

blue stars are so cool

[acoustic jolt]

Actually, they're pretty hot

:þ

[fluid delta]

Ah ok you definitely mean Primary, that’s straightforward and easy. Completing (Ideas side of) Reality Engine is also straightforward but anything BUT easy.

[quasi ivy]

no pun intended

🔥

[acoustic jolt]

I'm almost done with the entropy tap branch
And idk about meta doubler...

[fluid delta]

Unfortunately, they did make the Meta side much harder with the recent update, I assume they will fix this with Mollusks update early next year

[acoustic jolt]

Hopefully. I'm not making a call on balance until mollusks come out and the civ tree gets it's fine-toothed comb.

[fluid delta]

Yep. In the meantime, Ideas side should be attainable, you will probably be level 75 by the time you get it done.

[acoustic jolt]

61 rn

[amber canyon]

The two sides are just going to keep.stepping up alternately in difficulty imo. With updates planned every month, there's not going to be a permanent balance.

[fluid delta]

True enough

[acoustic jolt]

Yeeep

[fluid delta]

Honestly, getting a bit bored with the game.. not enough “idle” in it

[amber canyon]

You can always choose Idle 😁.

[acoustic jolt]

Events are cool but are a time sink. I do want to buy out the shop but idk how practical that is with how my days go.

[fluid delta]

You mean stop doing events? I could. As to the other kind, already am.. well, I am, even if my spare computer is running autoclick all the time, to stay ahead of nearly everyone else 🙂

[amber canyon]

Idle AND staying ahead of people is going to be hard, for sure.

[fluid delta]

mmhmm! If I pause for a week, others might even jump over me in level. Horrors!!! 😆

[amber canyon]

Yeah. Events take me 2-5 hours (playing actively withno autoclicker but 150-230 badge boost). The only reason I still play them is because I start late. I really don't like them hanging around for days at a time.

[quasi ivy]

must be sad to go trough so much only to die by choking on a piece of corn

i hope we do get more exploration events this year

[rough axle]

the year ends in 3 days lmao

[quasi ivy]

i ment next year i forgot its still 2025

[fluid delta]

2026.. the year most computer parts cost insane amounts.. I hope you upgraded this year, if you weren't already planning on 2027+

[long ocean]

i wish they cancel some for me there are to much of them already

[fluid delta]

I have confidence I can.. I am waiting for the last knowledge increment to tick over (soon) and then I'm going to reboot and harvest

[fluid delta]

cancel some of what?

[long ocean]

Nanikirby wants more exploration events

[vast skiff]

I randomly got this?

[fluid delta]

I don't think they're gonna cancel any, but I would expect them to add some

[vast skiff]

A few days ago. I don't even know what i was doing i was just playing the game normally lol

[rough axle]

oh hey look what i found buried in the deepest darkest depths of my pc

[long ocean]

imo to much of them is not good 🙁

[vast skiff]

Me am confused

[fluid delta]

that's being human for ya! 🙂

[vast skiff]

I mean you're not wrong....

[quasi ivy]

were only human after alllll

[long ocean]

no i am a Frog

[quasi ivy]

hmmmm fair fair

[vast skiff]

Ribbit ribbit

[long ocean]

146,01 OC away from last Dino yeah

[quasi ivy]

peak

[long ocean]

today is a good c2s day beyond 18 meso 48

[quasi ivy]

i speedran the money event myself and got quite a few extra knowledge for when i reboot

8.5 rn when i need 6 sp atleast

[long ocean]

<@&535129309648781332> cryptospam

[quasi ivy]

was about to ping aswell

[fluid delta]

me as well

[azure turtle]

!ban 1160558866212335716 crypto scam

[bright otter]

Banned db11gtvr (Case #4136) (user notified with a direct message)

[azure turtle]

Thanks

[fluid delta]

God these spammers are SO STUPID

[quasi ivy]

they are just posting in the server

[long ocean]

@quasi ivy @fluid delta faster you must be 😛

[quasi ivy]

i was in split screen ok 😭

i couldnt do @ in split screen

[long ocean]

reason rejected

[quasi ivy]

but i aprove 🔥

[long ocean]

i hate this event i stop after this round challenge lvl 3 and still not TOP 10

[quasi ivy]

damn how didya get level 3

im atevel 2 rn

at level 2

also finally a fellow money hater

[long ocean]

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Ninjafrog

[quasi ivy]

cwazy

[long ocean]

nah joking just playing

[quasi ivy]

when did u start

[long ocean]

at the start because i was at 0 badges so i need to collect all badges first

[quasi ivy]

well there we gott he issue

when u start too early its almost imposible to get top 10..... especially when you have no badges for said event

[long ocean]

i am impatient as soon it pops up i must click 🙈

[quasi ivy]

fair xd

i used to do the same

[long ocean]

also a lot events i never saw from the inside i am pretty sure i click at second 1 just to see what it is lol

[quasi ivy]

ah u can do that. but aslong as u dont click or do anything in the event, u wont join a ddivision

atleast im pretty sure thats the case

[long ocean]

big questions event i am not sure if i played it or not the stone thing 100% never it came out while my break

[quasi ivy]

i started my break right after rocks came out, but i still played new explorstion events that came out

[long ocean]

Giganotosaurus what a weird name

all Archievemnst on the Top are done now too

[quasi ivy]

ggs

now its 10 prestiges more to go in meso!

[long ocean]

nah 2 more lvl first i am 48

[quasi ivy]

ah alr

[long ocean]

now i need to only the black hole show up i wana test this thing 😄

[quasi ivy]

guess u could try to progress to rank 19 in beyond and maybe kt will appear at that point

faster then it usually does

[long ocean]

nah it must be before step 5 on 18 i saw a screenshot

[quasi ivy]

ah nice

prob om the moment when u unlock ur first trait

[long ocean]

this was a red dwarf i think at 2nd or 3rd i will see tomorrow i think

or 2 days depends on how fast the progress is

[quasi ivy]

probably

[long ocean]

sad thing is yyou cant use nanobots on beyond

[quasi ivy]

u can use autoclickers in beyond though so

[long ocean]

yeah but to lazy right now i give it one more afk 2x reward 😄

[quasi ivy]

nice

imma reboot soon aswell with like 10 Sp knowledge

and max modern mastery and upgrade some other minor upgrades

[long ocean]

i hate you 😄

how long you was on idle?

[quasi ivy]

woah woah woah hold ur horses partner

3 days now im prety sure

with allot of comet grinding and reading achievements

[long ocean]

why reading archivements?

[quasi ivy]

cuz kts fun to spend the time with while waiting for comets

[long ocean]

ok 😄

i am at 2 days 8 Hours now and i am far away from 1 SP there is still something realy wrong here

[quasi ivy]

u prob didnt p2w ur knowledge boosts 🔥

[long ocean]

hmm wait now that you say that idea is maxed entropy stuff is maxed but knowledge is 12/30 🙈 and some missing logits and dw stuff but i dont think this 2 make a huge difference

[quasi ivy]

dou have any modules missing ? (the greek alphabet ones)

[long ocean]

my 1200 cubes for the price of 900 offer yesterday was faster gone as i thought 😭 otherwise it would be 30/30

[long ocean]

only Theta

[quasi ivy]

i still got 600 cubes rn... could prob max mettabits if i wanted to

[quasi ivy]

u should get those aswell 😭

[long ocean]

i need 100 DW first to buy the last one 🙈 at 54 rn

[quasi ivy]

money eventbe giving free darwinium

and u can look for some codes

[long ocean]

lvl 3 will take a bit

[long ocean]

all used 🙈

[quasi ivy]

yeah especially wo badges

even BIGCUBE

[long ocean]

all of them

[quasi ivy]

then i guess its achievement completing time for you

or wait for ur darwinium incubator to do smt

[long ocean]

yep

[fluid delta]

@amber canyon Ok, rebooting after almost 9 days was wise. On the restart, I'm seeing roughly 3.5x entropy rate, and 18x ideas rate. I doubt I'll get the same in a week and half from now, next time I might stop idle!

[quasi ivy]

with how many knowledge did u reboot

[long ocean]

or the black hole to pop up than i buy some for test this 😄

[fluid delta]

Roughly 3.7 EE

[quasi ivy]

scary black hole being100 darwinium :

[amber canyon]

That sounds like quite a big increase. Did you manage to buy some meaty RE nodes? Or am I misunderstanding?

Although I feel while entropy and ideas are more fun, the driver for progress is Metabits and Knowledge. At least in the version I'm in.

[quasi ivy]

getting closer to that gravitation expansion i see

[fluid delta]

I did! None that were meaty on their own, per se, but quite a few of the others. I did grab Idea Tap XV, and I'm up to 33/100 of Idea Speed Booster V, as well as 22/100 on Idea Booster XI

[fluid delta]

I think it's within reach now! It might take a couple iterations of what I think I'll see in another 9 days, but yeah

[quasi ivy]

u should get it in like a week

week and a half

id say

[amber canyon]

Oh yeah, with autoclicker, the Tap nodes do become relevant.

[quasi ivy]

yeah

[fluid delta]

I doubt it. The difference in the "starting" knowledge wasn't as dramatic, only about 25%

[fluid delta]

Yes, though that tap node is only an additional 5%

[amber canyon]

And ofc all those 100-stacking nodes are gonna be feeding your ... Reality Capacitors?

[quasi ivy]

yeah id say 1 week and a half or even 2 weeks

[fluid delta]

The one thing I should be able to get in those 9 days is level 75. That seems very likely.

[quasi ivy]

this is where im at rn

battery should be prety easy after my next reboot

[fluid delta]

Nah.. a couple months IF it translates as I expect it will. but I could be wrong, idk

[amber canyon]

5% not to be sniffed at when you're at the front! Although your other purchases have boosted you a lot.

[quasi ivy]

yeah we kinda dont know how the time chamber scales for now

[fluid delta]

yep!! The metabits/entropy increase is nice, not enough to compensate for the nerf we got, but...

[amber canyon]

With the next update being Beyond, you can legit aim for GE before the next RE update!

[fluid delta]

I am certainly trying to 🙂

[fluid delta]

But we do? I did cap out at the 1-5 nodes, though 6 was still rising

[amber canyon]

On 42_24 my Metabits and Knowledge are still climbing exponentially I think (am re-baseling after the rollback) despite Time nodes being flatlined (and entropy/ideas). I have no idea why.

[fluid delta]

Interesting! Since you'd be pre-nerf for Metabits, you might be higher than everyone and best positioned, once Mollusks arrives!

[amber canyon]

Not that it matters, but slightly interesting. And makes sitting on an old version more appealing.

[amber canyon]

Might be! Even without having bought any PPVII nodes, lol.

[quasi ivy]

damn this cash bill went trough some insane parkour

[quasi ivy]

oh nvm then

[fluid delta]

Oh, and it's probably obvious, but it'll be way easier to get Graviton Expansion than to finish off Idea Speed Booster V and Idea Booster XI.. to increment either is 200 DD for me rn, and I'm only 1/5 and 1/4 of the way through, and they scale somewhat steeply.

[tiny forge]

👋

[fallen sage]

👋

[candid verge]

Anybody know the criteria to unlock the Lambda Module? The wiki doesn't list when they unlock, just the cost/reward.

[rough axle]

sadly no

[mellow carbon]

I'm still in the accelerating phase, day 2-day3 ran at 1.05x the rate at which I would have gotten by continuously rebooting, so the quitic from the idea time chambers and the quadratic from the knowledge chambers are exceeding the exponential.

Sadly my guess is Graviton Expansion isn't going to be worth rebooting for. Quark Expansion was a disappointingly low metabits/knowledge increase.

[primal osprey]

Sp is INSANE

[fluid delta]

It will be for XP however, and by the time you can actually spend for it, there won't be anything else worth getting, probably

[mellow carbon]

I expect the levels of metabit and knowledge efficiency to be worth more (unless the later ones are gone).
But we'll see. It depends on when the exponential outruns the polynomial.

[molten stag]

👋

[sweet hedge]

📻

[rough axle]

waiter! waiter! more bots please!

[sudden python]

heyyyy

i need help :((((((((((((

the beyond its very slowerrr

im in stage 18 like 4 days

any tip?

[rough axle]

thats intentional

[sudden python]

yeah?

oh

take a lot of time?? or is any tip for not desesperate

[long ocean]

upgrade your highest planets upgrade cards and wait for the magic

[mellow carbon]

4 days is reasonable. There's over a month between releases of the stages, so even if it takes you 2 weeks you're going to catch up. Biggest trick is to make sure that you're keeping the 4x multiplier from ads/infinity pass running. Other than that upgrade your best generator if you can get a rank, or at least double the number of generators; otherwise wait to buy the next generator. Some of the slower stages are about a week if you do all of those things.

[tall mirage]

why not wait till day 11

[fluid delta]

Knowledge efficiency will be capped. All I have left on the Ideas side besides Graviton Expansion is increments of Idea Speed Booster V (which increases Sim speed), and Idea Booster IX (which improved Idea efficiency, not knowledge efficiency). On the Metabits side, it's a bit different, I have only some increments of Entropy Speed Booster IV (which is Sim speed again), and Metabit Booster IV (which is Metabit efficiency)

[fluid delta]

I considered it, but the gain didn't seem all that worthwhile for the wait. I probably could have gotten another 10 increments of ISB IV + IB IX each, but I don't think that would have changed things that much. As it was I bought something like 50 increments of both (if you count the predecessor nodes) + Idea Tap XV, so..

[tall mirage]

🤔 I think you're underestimating the gains of knowledge via the knowledge time crystal

[fluid delta]

I don't. I've been watching the gains, and remember I'd already capped all the KTCs except 6

[tall mirage]

Time crystals and time chambers are different

Crystals boost knowledge efficiency

[fluid delta]

Agreed, but those were incrementing slowly

[tall mirage]

Each iteration of idea to knowledge converter gets more drastic as time goes on, now that we have 2 sooo

[tall mirage]

Ig that's there, maybe after u buy GE, you'll keep the same sim running til next update

[fluid delta]

We will see. Do note that by rebooting now, I see a 3.5x in entropy rate, and 17.6x in ideas rate.

[tribal hearth]

Huh? What is this?

[tall mirage]

I mean 17.6x ideas too less no?

Is that accounting for the loss from the time chambers

[fluid delta]

when I'm saying 3.5x and 17.6x here, I'm talking measured after a reboot + about 5 minutes (pre-update, then post-update). So I would expect that difference to persist over time

[long ocean]

how you get this?

[fluid delta]

progress pre-reality revamp

[tribal hearth]

No idea, it just appeared there. I think it's an upgrade from before reboot

[long ocean]

oh ok

[fluid delta]

it is. And lvl 52 was what endgame players had usually reached at the time the revamp dropped

[mellow carbon]

When I rebooted for reality nexus, I got a 113x increase in ideas rate, which translated to 1.45x in knowledge (both measured at 6 min after reboot).
Unified theory was 99x and 1.54x. I found the ideas rate increases to be underwhelming.

[errant dove]

i refund my reality engine

and put my chip all-in knowledge-side (i all-in entropy before)

and then

[tall mirage]

🤔 but a 17.6x increase in idea should barely be a 1.2x increase in knowledge

[fluid delta]

Yeah, ahead of you there. Idr what I saw at the time, I didn't think to make a note of it other than "much better now", but yeah, I assume I got what you did. Diminishing returns somewhat as we advance in the tree, heh

[tall mirage]

You'd fare much better just letting the sim run another 9 days, as the knowledge efficiency of the 2 crystals would defo lead to a >1.2x knowledge I think

[errant dove]

got a superextra balanced numerics

for the first time I simultaneously see entropy and idea both vital upgrow! even at the same level of amplitude

[fluid delta]

Maybe maybe not, but knowing what I could buy on the RE tree if I did, it's not all that much. Nodes in the things I could get were already up to 200 DD per increment! Say I doubled accumulated knowledge, giving me another roughly 3500 DD.. that's not going to go far.

[tall mirage]

idea will surpass entropy soon

[mellow carbon]

I'm not far enough in to be able to tell what the balance points are. But yes, I'm expecting the knowledge crystals to help a lot. I think that's a big reason why my knowledge improvement rate is running 1.05x faster than my 6 min reboot rate, and for entropy it's down at 0.03x.

[tall mirage]

You wouldn't just double your accumulated knowledge, you'd 10-100x it, there's a reason Kf could get 2.4e21 metabits without even buying Primordial VII !!

[errant dove]

this must be c2s's true intention.jpg

to just let us all in knowledges

chips

[tall mirage]

His accumulated badges along with time crystals boosted every iteration of entropy --> metabit converter that much more

And all this with only 1 Crystal + before update

[errant dove]

is this the solution-of-version

[mellow carbon]

I crossed that after 2 days. There are some advantages to rebooting.

[fluid delta]

No, I for sure wouldn't, I've been watching the curves, the rate of accumulating knowledge was decreasing, and that was with 2 nodes that got capped sometime in the last 12 hours.

[quasi ivy]

im ready for ma reboot

[tall mirage]

Depends on which nodes you have left

I assumed only major one for Seph is GE

[fluid delta]

correct

[tall mirage]

the time crystals got capped?

[mellow carbon]

Correct. The 7x from GE is probably not worth a reboot. the 113x from reality nexus (plus a ton of other things I picked up on an immediate next reboot) probably was.

[fluid delta]

No, but those were incrementing slowly.. up to 60x ish, if I remember from this morning

[errant dove]

bro use non scientific notation💀

[quasi ivy]

standard is goated

[fluid delta]

Custom is goated!

[tall mirage]

Yup, I'm gonna be rebooting soon, as I get 113x from reality nexus, 99x from unified theory, 3.125e4 from modern one

[quasi ivy]

scientific is lowkey my least fav notation

custom is second place

and standard on top for me

[long ocean]

normal is the only GOAT

[fluid delta]

no, Custom is Normal done right (so you can remember it)

[tall mirage]

🤔 Will need to see Kf's graphs to determine if they are faster/slower/same speed as before

[quasi ivy]

if u know the prefixes and how they work, standard is just like custom

but making more sense

[azure turtle]

I can't imagine playing CTS in any notation other than scientific

[quasi ivy]

same for me but with standard

[fluid delta]

What I know is what I was recording and noting.. adhoc and rough though it is, I was seeing a slowdown in the increase. While it's possible the Time Crystals would pick up in a couple weeks, they sure weren't showing any sign of it 9 days in, so.. gotta go with what the data were showing me, imperfect though that is!

[fluid delta]

Scientific would be much better in this game if it was actual scientific and by that I mean, kept to a fixed format, such as X.XXXEYYY

[tall mirage]

Ig so, based on the graph of before update, the crystals went from 100x to 1000x within 10-11 days so

With 2 chambers, that'd be 100x increase

And that should be knowledge, not ideas

[fluid delta]

Sure, but the update changed things, we don't know how the Time Crystals behave now. Certainly the Time Chambers results are way different, so...

I would think that if the Crystals were going to have an exponential effect, I'd be seeing it in my progress, and not have the rate of acc knowledge decrease over time at a fairly decent rate

[tall mirage]

How much of a multiplier did u see between 2 consecutive days in the time crystal

[fluid delta]

I only recorded acc knowledge multiplier as compared to base. For the Chambers, the graph already exists (which I can link), but it doesn't include the Crystals

[tall mirage]

The crystals graph is also there, but I'll need the eq. for it, I can't eyeball and tell what the multipliers are