💬-cells-chat

[inner tapir]

the only one i don't meet is the quark expansion and slipstream (i have slipstream, but not expansion)

so 29/30, plus 10 unrevealed accomplishments

i can't believe only 6.7% have "to infiniti and beyond", which is reaching alpha centauri

that's the lowest one lol

actually factoring in the 10 hidden ones (didn't realize you can show spoiler of what they are in steam menu), i have 35+

[dusk egret]

Guysss

Hii

Im making progress on beyond

[inner tapir]

hurray!

[woven agate]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349

[dusk egret]

🪐

https://tenor.com/view/cell-to-singularity-gif-12250528433137043373

[inner tapir]

what in the world is this 67 stuff

[amber canyon]

That seems high to me - if it's of everybody that's downloaded / played the game on Steam?

[dark swift]

hello guys, i search some advice for use my darwinium i have actually a lot
i show up my progression if have any importance

[spiral wren]

yeesh do some events, as for darwinium i think the "best" use of them is modules -> augments -> upgrades -> boosts in that order

[dark swift]

i buy every module before augments?

[spiral wren]

depends on how much you have, but i would say so yeah, especially anything that applies to metabits/knowledge

[shrewd rampart]

modules are lowkey kinda bad

especially the expensive ones

the only modules that are worth your darwiniums are the 10 and 25 ones

[dark swift]

--'

i have buy all so

[inner sedge]

nvm

it solved itself

[gray yew]

The new meme on the block, that’s what.

[amber canyon]

Really? Zeta, eta, iota and kappa seem decent to me?

Also 👋!

[shrewd rampart]

Kappa is kinda worth it because of the x2 Entropy gain and same goes with Eta (x1.8 Entropy gain). As for the others...

I'd rather buy the upgrades

You can get like x1.5 Metabit and Knowledge gain with 200 Darwiniums tbh

[shrewd rampart]

Hi boss!

[west dagger]

yes

[inner sedge]

how does research level work with ideas?

[west dagger]

ideas -> knowledge

[inner sedge]

ive gotten like septillions or whatever xp with just a couple million ideas and quadrillion entropy?

[west dagger]

pretty much the same as entropy -> megabits

[inner sedge]

quite steep scaling

[west dagger]

ohh

yeah ideas -> knowledge has a really big starting curve

[amber canyon]

Hmm. Generally boosting entropy and ideas have been much less effective than metabit and knowledge for me. Also anything that boosts land and primordial seems like a good idea from my stats.

[inner sedge]

quite helpful

[west dagger]

just keep progressing

[inner sedge]

i will

thanks

[west dagger]

and i think ~iron age is when you'll start getting a usable about of knowledge

[shrewd rampart]

Hate to be that guy, but any predictions or info regarding the next update's scheduled release? @amber canyon

[coarse haven]

Does anyone know about that like secret fox? You get an achievement right? Can someone tell me where I can find More of those secret achievements.

[inner tapir]

theres a cells wiki article with all the hidden achievements/unlocks

[coarse haven]

Can you give me the link? I can't find it.

[shrewd rampart]

WikiFandom can help with that!

[amber canyon]

Devs said ~monthly. Apart from that, idk.

If they don't keep on top of updates to the RE they're gonna be suffering from the Beyond E29 issue again: current players being able to finish it as it arrives.

[coarse haven]

Nvm I found it

[shrewd rampart]

Just make E29 insanely hard!

[amber canyon]

There's a link to it in game (in the community part of the menu)

[coarse haven]

What would you guys say is mid game in beyond?

[inner tapir]

ep14/15

[coarse haven]

OK I'm 19

Are there black holes, or is it just something you can open?

[inner tapir]

i think there is (or might be?) in later stages

[coarse haven]

OK what eq r u on

Ep*

[amber canyon]

On a scale of 1 to 11?

[coarse haven]

Okay, there is, but there is only stellar black holes. I don't know if they're supermassive black holes.

[shrewd rampart]

Oh...

Nice black hole savings!

[coarse haven]

I mean, in your garden.

[ebon marlin]

That's it, I can't find my save file in the game after a year's break. It's sad because I donated a little, but not a lot.

[amber canyon]

Sorry, was replying to Alicendrome. Yes there are.

[amber canyon]

I am really really really gonna enjoy opening them waiting patiently for when E29 comes out.

[shrewd rampart]

[amber canyon]

Checked the three bar menu for local saves or cloud saves?

#💬-cells-chat message

[ebon marlin]

I checked. It says it was last saved on 10.25.2024, but there is no save file.

Although I clearly remember that I saved it 😦

[amber canyon]

Not sure what is saying it was last saved, if there's no save file?

Anyway, if you did the cross-platform thing you could DM the cells support user here: they might be able to recover it.

[ebon marlin]

This is because the last save is stored in Google Play Games.

[amber canyon]

Oh Google Play. Yeah, that often seems to mess up cells save files. Maybe DM cells support anyway with your user ID and an idea of where you were at. They might be able to do something.

[ebon marlin]

But it's too late, because I just lost control and deleted my account. And started over again.

Yes, it's my fault, but what can I do? I'll start all over again.

Then please tell me how I can quickly level up?

[fluid delta]

.. you can't

[amber canyon]

I've not played the current version from the start, not many people have as it's only been out 2 weeks.

I imagine it'd be similar to before: prioritise your most effective generators, pick up all the free stuff you can and don't waste Darwinium.

And remember it's an Idle game, so it will take time. Enjoy the journey 🙂.

@fluid delta Are you still ahead of me? #💬-cells-chat message

... I don't actually know how I expect to catch up ...

[fluid delta]

Idk where you are at, so.. probably? Though @inner tapir is a little ahead of me now, in terms of RL

[amber canyon]

I meant re black holes 🙂.

[fluid delta]

oh, lol! I will look

[inner tapir]

no no im still 65

[amber canyon]

Shoe size?

||Deja vu intensifies||.

[inner tapir]

hehehe

[fluid delta]

You are at 22,56. I am at 18, 55, so we're very close!

[fluid delta]

I thought you claimed 69.75 earlier today? Or was that someone else?

[inner tapir]

i corrected myself

65.75

now 65.84 😄

[fluid delta]

ah ok lol

[amber canyon]

Close .. bUt I'M wINnInG!!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/weee-gif-22113548

[fluid delta]

heh that you are. I will get one more BH with this event. Even slacking at it, I am doing Top 10 np 🙂

[inner tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-furious-upset-annoyed-gif-17212761

[amber canyon]

How did you get that video of me?

[fluid delta]

lol

[amber canyon]

😜

[tawdry lagoon]

why are there a bunch of blank nodes? is it a thing i havent got or is it just not added

[rough axle]

Future update

[tawdry lagoon]

ah alright

was making me think i missed like a huge thing

[pseudo cliff]

can someone link the speedrun wr? I found them here before but can't anymore

[untold lily]

Dang, nice stack
How long did saving that take you?

[rough axle]

#🏠-general message

[inner tapir]

sheesh i thought my 64 second SR was good lol

[untold lily]

Whats the wr for mobile?

(With the recent shorter time for nanobots)

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[pseudo cliff]

Thank you! Looks like wr is using a very outdated version, surprised no one has beaten it since then

[rough axle]

Yeah that’s almost 4 years old

[willow spire]

Okay im def not getting the neutrino + quark expansion upgrade achievement 💔

[carmine escarp]

hey guys what are these nodes that I somehow don't have unlocked yet

[pseudo cliff]

Woow wtf. Guess I gotta lock in. Got 36s so far

[rough axle]

Wh-

[rough axle]

Scroll up like literally only 10 messages

[carmine escarp]

okay wow

alright thanks lol

[pseudo cliff]

Lol

[amber canyon]

Thanks! Since not long after E28 released ...

[amber canyon]

There's stuff here too. #💬-cells-chat message

The Devs are pondering stuff.

I think the WR is on older versions cos there were fewer things to unlock, so it could be faster?

[long raven]

Damn, best I could do was 60 seconds

[acoustic jolt]

I like the new achievements, got some, the 1ks will be annoying however

[rough axle]

If even possible

Good luck getting 1000 Neoaves

[acoustic jolt]

Probably possible, see the crazyness of what upgrades happen

[carmine escarp]

reality engine is so expensive 🙏

how am I supposed to get any decent progress

[fluid delta]

reboot often, helps

[carmine escarp]

wus dis?

[fallow anchor]

Is this all of the supporter achievements or are there more

[fluid delta]

This appears to be something new with the most recent Steam patch. It seems to be referring to the open/uncompleted compound nodes in Reality Engine that you have atm. Idk what upgrade it is referring to though

[fallow anchor]

It is the required amount of fills of the metabit thing required before you can restart

[desert coral]

Hello everyone

[fluid delta]

No, I don't think it's that. I just fed each of the nodes, and the converter fills didn't change. And, it lets me restart.

[fluid delta]

?

[fallow anchor]

When the thing fills up enough times, it lets me restart

I couldn't restart before I started refilling it

[fluid delta]

All you did was start the new reboot. Not sure what you mean here, and I watched your vid

[carmine escarp]

He couldn't reboot until he filled the thing for metabits 73 times

[fallow anchor]

Exactly

It says upgrade locked

And when I get 73 refills, it turns into the reboot button

[fluid delta]

... one sec while I rewatch and do a reboot of my own

No difference on my end. I can reboot, spend nothing, then reboot again if I want. The message is purely informational.

Also, Steam achieves seem to be fixed, I have all 40 now, though I had to go into Beyond for a moment for a few of them to activate

I do wonder if the unlock thing it refers to, is the final row of modules in the DW store. I kindof assume so, given the wording. It'll be a while before I/we find out, probably

[amber canyon]

Technically one more.

[fallow anchor]

How do you get that one?

[fallow anchor]

I am physically unable to reboot until it does all the cycles

I can press it as many times as possible and it does nothing

[fluid delta]

I can. Idk what to tell you. Are you playing on Steam atm?

[fallow anchor]

I play on android

[amber canyon]

Was for being an alpha or beta tester. Don't know if you still get it if you join. Means your profile - as a minimum - gets beta tagged on the leaderboards. Possibly also shunted to the beta leaderboards in future.

[fluid delta]

I only have experience with iPadOS and Steam versions, and the Steam version is the one that got the update a short time ago to 42_24 that has that change

And I tested it on Steam

[amber canyon]

I think I had that? Vague recollection anyway. I assumed it was a deliberate 'you can't reboot till you've done something' thing.

[fallow anchor]

That's what it's like for me

[amber canyon]

I'm android btw.

[fluid delta]

hmm.. if it’s even one tiny thing then…I mean I’ll try it again, one sec

it lets me reboot. Idk what to say, aside from the message, everything appears exactly as it was before

[strange lark]

Hi android im kasztan

[fluid delta]

.. i am far enough in the RE tree that it does give me 10000 entropy and ideas at start, so maybe that’s why?

maybe that counts as “doing something”?

[amber canyon]

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong?

I can't think why I would have been trying that ...

[amber canyon]

Oh ... Is that one of the ones bought since the reboot allocation?

[fluid delta]

I don’t remember

[amber canyon]

Just checked. My post-Reality Reboot file has that mode (Kickstarter, to the right of the RE).

[loud mortar]

is scientific revolution gonna release this month

[amber canyon]

And yeah, it wants me to 'do something' before letting me upgrade again

[fluid delta]

but what happens if you click on it?

bc it for sure is letting me upgrade

[hollow marsh]

I don't think it lets you reboot before you have filled that many times which may be the number of times you have reset the primary universe

[fluid delta]

No, it’s not that. I am not doing anything different than I did yesterday, it’s all working the exact same

And converter fills, that’s the number of unfinished compound nodes you can spend on currently in RE

[amber canyon]

I get a red FILL message in the sidebar.

[amber canyon]

There's some new pedestals appeared in that garden. So the Devs are teasing us.

[fluid delta]

I just realized something. You end a Primary run and you get to the above screen. I have a Blue “Start Simulation” button between the upgrade locked button and the progress button. You don’t

[amber canyon]

I had a start simulation button. When the background was red ... I think ... Lemme grab a snip.

[amber canyon]

1st screen after rebooting:

What an odd difference!

[fluid delta]

between what you see and what I see?

yeah idk what to say. I’m not complaining on my end, ofc 🙂

… must be bc you aren’t using Custom notation. I’m sure that’s it! 😄

[amber canyon]

Yeah. I don't think it's important. Just odd. As if your red screen is a mashup of the Android red and grey one.

[fluid delta]

Mine is the standard Steam one. Monitor is in portrait orientiation bc otherwise it is annoying.. same as when I pay on ipad

[amber canyon]

Lol. It's you that'll be weird with your custom-stuff.

Just you wait till you don't get the Scientific Revolution update ...

[fluid delta]

lol we shall see

[amber canyon]

TBF that would make me laugh!

[fluid delta]

It would be amusing, yes!!

[rough axle]

Probably not

[fluid delta]

So what do you have to do on your end to be able to get the “Start Simulation” button back?

[amber canyon]

Get those fills it wants me to do.

[fluid delta]

Which are? Specifically?

bc having to do all of them means ALL the RE tree.

.. so it can’t be that

[amber canyon]

One sec.

I have been conditioned by the infinity pass. And keep getting stupid long ads for pointless reward ...

13 metabit fills as far as I can tell. It happens v quickly.

[fluid delta]

what do you mean by “13 metabit fills”? 13 of the bar going across in the thing?

[amber canyon]

The number on the entropy/Metabit screen part of the RE sidebar being over 13. The idea/Knowledge not can be zero.

[fluid delta]

I’m not 100% sure what you mean, so I will try what i think you mean, and see if that makes a difference

[amber canyon]

The number that is the count of fills.

[long raven]

Each cycle?

[amber canyon]

This

[hollow marsh]

Metabit fills cutts off bad on Steam post today's update - 1 see the first of 4 digits now

[amber canyon]

Def worth reporting as a bug!

[rough axle]

hmm

thats not right 🤔

[hollow marsh]

some of the achievements proc after you load their respective simulation - and for primary cna't recall but may have taken a reboot for them all to hit

[rough axle]

see the thing is i got it without meeting the condition

[amber canyon]

Doing another one means it wants me to do 14 fills, instead of 13. With the file I am using (my reboot save file) that's vaguely similar to the number of Main sim resets (11 and 12).

[rough axle]

ok i now have everything except edge of reality

[long raven]

Yeah idk what any of that means I’m gonna be honest

I just play cuz big number go brrrr

[languid ruin]

You cant reboot till you fill enough bars of metabit gains

That way the game prevents you from just resetting infinitely

[long raven]

Makes sense

[fluid delta]

Mine are zero until I touch the first generator, then it is at 1100 and climbing

[long raven]

Only matters early game I suppose

[languid ruin]

In order to gain metabit, you need x amount of entropy. When you get enough entropy, you fill the little bar, and gain metabits in exchange.

[long raven]

I haven’t had to worry about since my first couple

[languid ruin]

You need to fill the bar x amount of times in order to be able to reset again

[amber canyon]

Did you have them from before? In the achievement section of cells.

I have the achievements, for 1000 in game, even though I haven't that many since the reboot and before the reboot there weren't achievements for 1000 things?

[fluid delta]

edge of reality?

[fluid delta]

Oh that. nodnod

[rough axle]

thus stupiud thing

[fluid delta]

Yes. So I see. nod

[rough axle]

quantum slipstream isnt that bad

[fluid delta]

So yeah, at least on my end, I am seeing zero functional difference, I can reboot as much and as fast as I want, just like before.

[languid ruin]

Yeah

[amber canyon]

Those Steam achievements do tend to imply that if anything does get added to the RE, the Quark Expansion is still supposed to be The Big Boss. Or A Big Boss anyway.

[languid ruin]

Againz its just to prevent you from resetting infinitely

[fluid delta]

But I can reset infinitely if I want

[languid ruin]

No you cant

Thats exactly why that thing exists

If you keep resetting and resetting and resetting

[fluid delta]

What’s stopping me? I see no differenc compared to before

[languid ruin]

There will be a moment in which it asks for more fills than what you can get

[long raven]

I assume the cycles needed goes up each reset. So if you reset at the same point each time and not upgrade, the cycles will eventually catch up

[languid ruin]

So you'll be forced to push longer than normal just to reset again

[languid ruin]

Yep

[amber canyon]

So @fluid delta , yours says 0/3, but doesn't enforce it?

[languid ruin]

Just like in cifi

[fluid delta]

except I don’t

[amber canyon]

You can reboot again without buying any generators?

[languid ruin]

You dont because the requirement is small

Just keep resetting and you'll see how it catches u0

Up

[languid ruin]

[fluid delta]

It never changes from 3. And it seems to correspond to the number of unfinished compound nodes I can spend on, in Reality Engine. You should have 13 in yours

[long raven]

I’m still under 70 resets but I make sure I get value out of each one before I do

[fluid delta]

(but I don’t have to spend on them if I don’t want to)

[fluid delta]

it isn’t changing

[languid ruin]

Hmm, maybe a bug?

I dont know why it wouldnt work like this

[amber canyon]

To reboot I don't have to do anything with my nodes. It's Metabit fills it is looking for.

[fluid delta]

I am inclined to think it doesn’t work like you all think it does, or there is a bug. Why 3 for me and 13 for KF? That 3 does directly correlate to my RE unfinished nodes. I even tried spending in all 3. No change. So idk.

[languid ruin]

Could be 3 for you and 13 for kf because he did more resets(?

Sounds like a bug

[fluid delta]

No. I have done way more than KF has

[languid ruin]

Since chrysto worked in this, im sure it should.work like it does in cifi

[amber canyon]

The number may be derived from nodes.

But 100% what the game wants me to do is generate metabits.

[amber canyon]

Lol. No.

When I'm talking about Metabit fills, I'm looking at the purple bar filling up and this number going up

[fluid delta]

Yep. And mine jumps from 0 to 1100ish as soon as I do anything in Primary

[amber canyon]

Okay.

So - if you don't buy any generators, can you upgrade? Or does the game not let you?

[long raven]

Eventually you wouldn’t be able to reset if you chose to not upgrade is my understanding

Those upgrades generate more bits hence more cycles

[amber canyon]

In mine (to do a reboot):

• it doesn't care what RE nodes I buy.
• it doesn't care what primary upgrades I buy
• it cares that I have generated Metabit fills (from buying generators).

[amber canyon]

Weirdly, I think the amount it wants might be related to how many nodes you have left to buy in the RE.

[lyric dust]

i just lost two days worth of progress in the art event. i was number 5 on the leaderboard and it got reset

[fluid delta]

sorry to hear that. that’s why it’s a good idea to always back up your save to the cloud

(using the game’s save manager)

[lyric dust]

i usually do, right? my computer shat itself and deleted my local save file and lost the version i had been playing on for the past two days. i had just gotten amphibians and 25 in space-

[fluid delta]

Is your computer ok?

[amber canyon]

You could put it in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1010249890414202880 . They cells support user might be able to help you get your progress back?

[lyric dust]

it's...fine?

i think lol

i did lose a lot of other things from my computer

[fluid delta]

That’s good! Now is a bad time to have to upgrade!

[lyric dust]

^ this tbh

[fluid delta]

What happened? Your SSD die?

[lyric dust]

idk, all i know is that my computer purged the Application Support and removed everything (app support includes save game data, sign-ins for apps, and general data)

i had to sign in to everything again

[lyric dust]

true yea

[fluid delta]

“Application Support”? That’s not really a Windows thing. I’m a bit confused. Are you running on Mac?

[amber canyon]

Anyway. Is bedtime for me. Have fun y'alls!

[fluid delta]

Gn!

[lyric dust]

Yeah, Mac

mbmb

[fluid delta]

Hmm.. I can’t help you there, then. MacOS is it’s own beast, and so for that matter is iPadOS which is the other platform I play Cells on

… are you playing in Safari on the web? I haven’t thought that there might be a native Mac client

[lyric dust]

I have the Steam version on Mac

[fluid delta]

Ah ok so that’s a thing for Cells. Good to know. .. at any rate, the best way to be sure is to back up to a Cells account using their save manager within the game to the Cloud. It’s also how I move my save back and forth between Cells on Steam and Cells in iPad. Works great!

[lyric dust]

yea i thought i had it active (and it was iirc) but it didnt back up the past two days of progress evidently :/

[fluid delta]

heh yes, best to be semi-paranoid when it comes to saves that matter to you!

[lyric dust]

frfr

edit: i lost a year of progress

[fluid delta]

… a YEAR! How???

[lyric dust]

the cloud save on steam just disappeared.

i went from Beyond 25 to Beyond 21, and Mesozoic Valley P3,E45 to Mesozoic Valley P2,E47.

i lost the ISS and several augmentations

[fluid delta]

I’m sorry

[lyric dust]

it's fine i guess, it's my fault for not saving enough

:/

[amber canyon]

No local backup since the purge?

Also, Def recommend setting up the cross platform save before anything worse happens.

(💤)

[lyric dust]

the game file was deleted when my computer purged the files. it was in steam, but overwritten by a new save when the game reset. i restored the version from Dec 9, 2024 (the newest version i had.)

apparently, in the year since that save, the cross-platform save hasn't saved once

steam did all the heavy lifting

until the game file was deleted

[fluid delta]

There was your mistake: you relied on Steam to do the saves, and I guess it can handle local saves, but it has nothing to do with the Cells account/cloud saves

people have had saves troubles with Google Play saves as well

[warm lodge]

Well, it's too late now but I absolutely tried to save your soul.

#💬-cells-chat message
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3615103730
https://www.reddit.com/r/CellToSingularity/comments/1pa9y8g/every_day_players_lose_all_of_their_progress_in/

Maybe Support can help you still?

[lyric dust]

yeah :/ there's not much that can done atp lol

[lyric dust]

oh i just rejoined the server but that should be pinned tbh

i just got mine reconfigured

[fluid delta]

What Div are you in rn, TheQuickFox?

[warm lodge]

Division for explorations?

[fluid delta]

yes

you and me are very close in science

[warm lodge]

Division #88 for Art

[fluid delta]

Div #197 here. So we aren’t competing. Good 🙂

[lyric dust]

I was 157

number 5 before the reset

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. well, there is still plenty of time for you to get your 3 badges!

[lyric dust]

true, i do have the infinity pass

cuz of the update

i actually think i'll buy it once it expires, it's op asf but super useful

[fluid delta]

i wouldn’t call it overpowered, not on iPadOS/iPhoneOS at least.. and you can run the iPad version on your Mac, if I’m not mistaken?

The main use on Steam is bc you can use an autoclicker too

[warm lodge]

@primal stump Can you please consider to pin my message: #💬-cells-chat message

It's a guide on using the Crossplatform save because it hurts me that I see players lose their game every day for various reasons.

[lyric dust]

i say it's OP because you can basically use the nanobots almost as much as you like, save for the 2 minute cooldown

[lyric dust]

^ true yea

[fluid delta]

you could even without IP, you just gotta “watch” an ad. Sometimes they are even very short (5 seconds)

[lyric dust]

ah, i don't have the ads bc im on the steam version. the normal cooldown is like 15 minutes (cant watch an ad to skip)

but i've never tried the ipad version on mac

[fluid delta]

Right, which is why i suggest play the ipad version, at least once your IP runs out

[lyric dust]

forget what i said, i found a version of the file-

we're so back

[fluid delta]

awesome!!!

[lyric dust]

NOW I NEED TO BACK IT UP

i will do it now

[fluid delta]

yes. do that. via the in game save manager

[cursive socket]

Do you have to do something special to be able to post suggestions in the #💡-suggestions channel?

[rough axle]

no one can

read the channel description

or the pinned message

[lament temple]

How do I make a suggestion in Discord?

• Go to #🎭-semblance. Use the /suggest command and type your suggestion in the dialog box. Your suggestion will first be reviewed by the moderators (to make sure it's related to the game/server and isn’t a troll), and if it's approved, it will appear in #💡-suggestions for other people (and maybe the developers) to see. Do not create a thread directly in #💡-suggestions because that won't count and the thread will eventually be deleted.

Frequently Asked Questions • Requested by unjolly

[rough axle]

or jsut read that

[cursive socket]

Why thank you!

[cloud trellis]

The text display 💀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

[inner tapir]

just launched CTS and triggered a bunch of achievements

[inner tapir]

do you actually drive MTA in the brickety bronx?

[rough axle]

yup they added 21 new steam achivements recently

[inner tapir]

yeah we were talking about them earlier trying to figure out which ones we'd all wind up auto collecting lol

up from 19/40 to 33/40 so let's see what we gotta get!

3 locked and 4 hidden still

in game i just need 500 and 1000 amphibians as well as 1000 singularities

[rough axle]

heres all the hidden ones #💬-beta-chat message

[rough axle]

oh btw you might wanna enter the beyond

you shouldnt have to do anything

but just enter it

[inner tapir]

legend

just triggered those 3

*6

[rough axle]

so youre 38/40 now?

[inner tapir]

39

i have quantum slipstream, just need the quark expansion

[rough axle]

gee i wonder which youre missing... /s

[inner tapir]

i suppose @fluid delta is one of the view with all 40 :p

the irony is i could hunker down for like 4 straight days and spam reboots and get that damn quark expansion lol

but i don't friggin wanna

i don't suppose anybody has even 500 amphibians yet

that's alright im sure the one just below newt and olm is going to be like "amphibians 1000000000% more efficient" or something lol

[fluid delta]

I am 🙂 .. but you should be at 39, right? You just don’t have that one achieve for those 2 hard nodes in RE. .. I doubt anyone has 500 amphib, I do have the 250 achieve though

[sacred fog]

Does anyone know what's after metabit booster 3? I'm assuming metabit booster 4, but there's two lines.

[dusk egret]

Hiiii

Hiiii

[rough axle]

free research chips

[fluid delta]

yes that is there and one other node that gives you 5 research chips

[dusk egret]

[sacred fog]

Ah okay. Doesn't sound too worth. Thanks, you too @fluid delta

[fluid delta]

The 5 research chips are yummy. There are 4 of them on the board, that’s 20 chips, therefore 2 doublings!

[wicked python]

._.

[sacred fog]

I'm honestly sure how close I am to getting all 4. I'm averaging like 5-10 qi metabits and 100-200 qa knowledge. I know I've gotten at least one knowledge one. Idk if more of them are further or if I just skipped straight past them due to my progression

[sacred fog]

Hi!

[fluid delta]

Someone posted a screenshot of the entire unlocked tree, if you want to see it here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694901423732686878/1444215954539151511/Reality_Engine_6000.png?ex=6931d52b&is=693083ab&hm=ce31ad35102c3b442929fd9a167da88973f8536a9b30539304bb55f26941cdd4& Note that the icons tell you what they give

[dusk egret]

Hi

[sacred fog]

Oh it's after entropy speed booster. I could potentially grab that. After I get to my next primordial power level though since I'm close

[tawdry lagoon]

it seems steam achievments work now

i just got like 7 achievments i shoulda had ages ago

[loud mortar]

hey just curious who has the eagle trophy node and when do you unlock it

[long raven]

Rockin 54s on my singularity

[rough axle]

uh no one

you cant get it rn

[inner tapir]

correct, i have 39...and i made the 250 amphibian achievement, too

[warm lodge]

It's like a butterfly.

[inner tapir]

based on those trees it appears i'm on the final bits of reality engine nodes

[rough axle]

for some reason a random select few nodes are just not obtainable rn

vulture, eagle, that thing comong off of flatwo- oh right thats a secret, sanitaion, alcohol, obsevretory

[fluid delta]

as am I

[inner tapir]

im going to send my wife and kids away for 3 days and ill get quark expansion done 😄

[tribal solstice]

Guys so shld I focus on the last land genome upgrade (9/10) or the primordial power one (7/10) cuz I don't think even If I upgrade the cells they won't be better than the frog and lion

[fluid delta]

lol that is an option

primordial power vii for sure

[inner tapir]

i have all primordial done!

haha

[fluid delta]

good job!!

[loud mortar]

ok i saw a reddit reply saying you could

[rough axle]

if you get research level 99 then yes

but thats impossible without cheating or using a glitched save

[loud mortar]

time to lock myself in a room

[tawdry lagoon]

how can i see all time stats

i wanna get some roles but i cant find how to get the screenshots of all time stuff

[loud mortar]

i go to saves where it says my total playtime

[tawdry lagoon]

nothing else is there

i wanna get the discord roles

like the speedrun one and stuff

[maiden gulch]

in reality engine go to statistics -> current stats

[tawdry lagoon]

is that all time

[maiden gulch]

it looks like this

[rough axle]

yes

[tawdry lagoon]

ok

are my stats good its in prestige

[chrome thistle]

Does anyone have an estimate for when the next update will be?

[tawdry lagoon]

i think

hmm

[rough axle]

im guessing you mean content update

[tawdry lagoon]

the update will happen on the day it happens

[chrome thistle]

Yess

[rough axle]

we'r egetting lots of bug fixes rn

probably next year

[chrome thistle]

Are you sure it’s not going to happen on the day before it happens?

[tawdry lagoon]

it will happen in at least 2 zeptoseconds

[rough axle]

checks watch

where update

[tawdry lagoon]

i said at least you absolute buffoon

😡

[rough axle]

💥

[tawdry lagoon]

i will remove one of your 46 chromosomes in at most 2 nanoseconds

[rough axle]

huh thαt wαsnt too bαd

[dense path]

Johnny Be Goode continuously plays

[dark swift]

its normal about steam achievment no unlock in back what i have already done?

[copper igloo]

is there any guide for Upgrades, Modules, and Augments? I'm not sure where to start 🙁

I have 400 darwinium so I could buy a lot, but still don't want to waste it as the Modules are very expensive

[thin notch]

How do i get Cave Painting(?) for the Laux(i forgot) cave Augment?

[desert flax]

2 zeptoseconds? too long

[maiden gulch]

why is it not going above 51?

[desert flax]

#1010249890414202880

[wraith terrace]

Lascaux cave. You buy it with Darw. No idea how much.

[thin notch]

I don't have the cave Painting prequisite?

[long raven]

Could be glitch that you gotta unlock?

[wraith terrace]

I don't know. You need research level 29. I have no idea how long that takes

[wraith terrace]

Yes

[amber canyon]

No one's sure, but some of us think generally its #💬-cells-chat message

It could also be best to prioritise overall simulation speed, then Metabit/knowledge boosts, then entropy/ideas (with specific boosts to specific types of generator depending on your games specific stats).

[jade thorn]

Ah yes

Offline for almost 1000 days

[primal stump]

Sure

[lyric dust]

W

[flint ore]

W

[desert flax]

devs do we have raw Semblance voice lines

[strange lark]

Idk
Dont think so

[untold lily]

3 march this year? So 9 months, dang

[sick arrow]

can someone tell where I can find (or what to buy to unlock) the Rapa Nui Stonehenge Ziggurat of Ur and Catalhoyuk I can't find them

[untold lily]

All of them are directly linked to the generator they affect, so idk if you need to buy anything else for them to appear

@sick arrow

[sick arrow]

oh wow i'm far from it

[tawdry lagoon]

lol

oh sweet they gave me roles

[untold lily]

But yea the cost indicates when you should unlock them

[tawdry lagoon]

im cool now

[sick arrow]

I guess I won't get those achievement soon

[untold lily]

What's your per second earning in exponents?

[sick arrow]

I'm kinda new

I forgot this game was in my library

[tawdry lagoon]

yeah you are faaaaaaaaaar

[sick arrow]

When I joined it was 3 years of offline gain lol

[tawdry lagoon]

oh lol

[untold lily]

Oof

Did you get the time space continuum glitch?

[sick arrow]

What is this

[tawdry lagoon]

Whats what

[untold lily]

If you're longer than a year gone the game can flag you for suspicious behaviour

[sick arrow]

really ? everything was normal for me

[untold lily]

Thats good

[tawdry lagoon]

i was gone for about 11 moneths

[untold lily]

Its not a garantuee

[tawdry lagoon]

months*

[untold lily]

Neat ;)

[sick arrow]

any tips on how to progress faster tho ?

Is it worth it to reset when it say "Recommended" ?

[tawdry lagoon]

Yes

[untold lily]

Yea, I have heard that you should take that with a grain of salt

[tawdry lagoon]

the buffs start out fast but get slower

like

[untold lily]

Eh, play events, try to always get the 3 badges

[sick arrow]

yeah I was lvl 3 research yesterday and now 11 it's not that bad

[sick arrow]

I'm top 200 I think

[tawdry lagoon]

the first stuff is really good then it turns into like +0.1% metabits

Oh speaking of i can get reality legend if i ss my metabits

[untold lily]

The fastest way to progress is obviously to spend money or play illegitimately, but idk if you want to do that

[sick arrow]

I'm poor and cheating would ruin my goal

I want to get those achievement without any cheat lol

I just need to gain some

[untold lily]

Are those steam statistics?

[sick arrow]

yes it's one of my showcase

I don't have a lot of games but it's fun to hunt achievements

[amber canyon]

Was a couple of weeks after iirc (I stopped spending them when I'd ranked my golds and relevant silver). But yeah ... I do most events and usually rank top 10 ...

PSA: The Time Chamber 2 Nodes cap at 100 after 14 in game days. So ... In combo with the Time Chamber 1 nodes capping at 100 after 7 in game days; expect that the 3 Nodes and the Crystals cap at 100 after 21 and 28 days respectively.

[tawdry lagoon]

c2s battlepass when frfr

"not a game if it aint got a battle pass"

[spare crane]

good to know, do you mind sending your numbers from "current stats"? I wanted to compare stuff 😄

[tawdry lagoon]

they gotta add the

cell pass

[pseudo cliff]

Anyone knows what this is about? The converter fills. I don't get it

[tawdry lagoon]

its the purple and yellow bars

you have to fill them that many times

to upgrade again

[pseudo cliff]

to upgrade what?

[tawdry lagoon]

to restart simulation

to buy more reality engine upgrades

see the purple and yellow thing on the top and bottom of the hypercube

[spring dome]

i was off for over a year multiple times lol
i quit the game after finishing beyond at its initial release, then came back for beyond rank 21(?), left again and came back just now right before reality reboot
nothing went wrong other than the offline earnings page being funny

[pseudo cliff]

I don't even have a simulation going right now. And Already did another full reset without changing anything

[tawdry lagoon]

thats because that requirement fills on its own

and really fast at the start too

hard to notice it exists

[pseudo cliff]

oh okay

[tawdry lagoon]

they should add a battle pass(trust)

[pseudo cliff]

I'm still confused why this is showing up now though. It didn't ever before

[tawdry lagoon]

its meant to make it slower as you progress further

i dont think it even exists in the first 2 resets

[pseudo cliff]

well I have 200+ resets lol

It's not like I just started playing

[tawdry lagoon]

maybe it appears at certain progression

idk

i started at 20 fills needed

[amber canyon]

Here's the graph (note all now on same axis). Link to copy of spreadsheet is https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zysp-KmpEAVi8KhQYjd6W5ynTxURDuKB/view?usp=drivesdk - data is on sheet2.

Note I'm recording by irl time, which differs from in game time somewhat.

[spare crane]

uff thats some dedication

nice spreadsheet!

[amber canyon]

Thanks! Less dedicated now than I was to start with tbh ... And definitely less dedicated than the spam-rebooters imo!

[spare crane]

nobody is more dedicated than them 😆

I wonder if according to predicted trend, the multipliers would max out in around a month?

[amber canyon]

I think one of the Time nodes are likely to max at every 7 days. We'll find out in 2 weeks.

Don't think the other ones that grow over a run (like capacitors and compliers) will do, cos they're self-limiting.

[amber canyon]

Updated link btw - accidentally pasted one from a few days ago.

[spare crane]

whats up with the "frog"??

[tawdry lagoon]

forg

(get it at reality engine level 55)

[spare crane]

ah the ampibians?

does that mean you are at PP3/10?

[pseudo cliff]

I can't be the only one being annoyed that deploying nanobots puts you on the page with the earth?

Why would it do that

[tawdry lagoon]

you can just

switch back

they still work

[amber canyon]

Er no. Haven't updated that for a while. Was using it to keep an eye of where I could buy up to in the PP VII chain. Haven't got any PP VIIs yet.

[spare crane]

and the last one is 1E19

[amber canyon]

Cool! I was getting differing numbers from people when I asked before.

[pseudo cliff]

Ofc, but still annoying

[strange lark]

Forg mentioned

[spare crane]

PPVII is a huge upgrade, on rank 7 primordial surpasses amphibians, and where am at, prokaryotic is 1E3 more efficent, so like thousand times

i am at 9/10

I would have to reset around 100 times to finish PP

[amber canyon]

Yup. That's why PP VII was one of the few things I was monitoring whether I could buy. I'm now just settled down for 2 more weeks of collecting data.

[spare crane]

for science!

[amber canyon]

It's that far away with reboot strat? It doesn't feel that far for me (except for my time nodes capping out).

I suppose my Time Chamber nodes multipliers are not far off 1e6, and my Crystals are x35 ...

[spare crane]

well if I caount it now, it would be around 43 resets to finish PPVII and similar to complete Knowledge Compessor IV 5/5

[pseudo cliff]

1 second at a time now lol

[spare crane]

fastest hands in the west!

[pseudo cliff]

Probably lacking more upgrades to go much faster

[quiet tiger]

you should be running e2e tests for this 😄

[quiet tiger]

Im afraid it's not worth it a current version of the game, there is definitly stuff missing that will speed up reality engine related things later. I managed to get some spare research chips as what was no confirmed as an exploit and stuff metabits production just grinds to a halt around powers of 21 and research level 76 too. No matter how high the boost goes. The current version is simply incomplete around the theoretical top end.

[amber canyon]

Well, they have to leave space for the updates they're planning. I'm actually worried they haven't left enough space...

[quartz fox]

Steam won't load any online parts of the game like shop where you claim free darwinium or explorations. However it works in browser and also the browser has version 42_05 and Steam has version 42_24. I also reinstalled it on Steam.

[pseudo cliff]

Ooohh

[amber canyon]

You're getting so fast you're experiencing time dilation!

[spare crane]

I assume with the approach they took, It would definitely make sense to increase the final goal post very far

[pseudo cliff]

What is that exactly?

[quartz fox]

What version of cells do you have installed right now

[gray yew]

Somehow it feels weird that in this massive, detailed garden, the final addition to it, brought on by the final generator, is ||that guy sitting on the bench looking at his phone||.

[grave reef]

This community is so much better than other games

[quiet tiger]

so called end to end tests. Where you can script the mouse and user interaction with a full deployed app and compare it vs expected results in software development. Look up playwright for frontend development for example.

[amber canyon]

42_04 (Android). There was a beta released earlier this week (42_24) , but it's not available to me (if even released as production yet).

[amber canyon]

'This is the Way the World Ends ...'

[quiet tiger]

i almost assumed the left the mission rewards exploit in as a non-communicated way for grandfathered 100%ers who have now some way to easily claim the new 100%, but apparently that was a bit too optimistic, even if this was independently discovered by a bunch of people, including me. I just took the opportunity to end my FOMO on the main sim thankfully and go back to playing the events fair and square or quit CtS for good to go back to my family. I think they overdid it with the whale fishing this times a bit. This nowhere near life threatening but getting the pass should be enough to max out things easily.
Now the augment pricing seem to go nowhere.

You can still max out the game for under 50 bucks but there is no obvious way to get there through normal play and coffee sized purchases. I got the starter CPU and I'm on the Black Friday 30 day pass but stuff still feels just slow up there like before the update.
Would really like to have multiple slots to try different things, the endgame just feels bleak even now.

No way to exchange excess logits for research chips or darwinium still, stuff just sits there unspendable.
(This happened way before the exploit by just playing every other event or so).

Maybe a modifer of the them month for the main sim would make things enjoyable again. Like events but on slightly speed up variations of the reset main sim. Pretty much what if version, like intelligent mutant ducks discovered farming early or something.

[rough yacht]

no way i just got back to the game to see i lost most of my progression! so sad. i saw many players had the same problem. is there a way to solve it?

[terse vigil]

first question as always:
do you have a c2s account?

[strange lark]

That sure is a message

[rough yacht]

i have the game account for cloud saving yes

and i synced from that when i download again the game

[quartz fox]

for some reason when I opened it on my notebook I can normally play version 42_24 but when I launch it on desktop I can't so now I am using remote play to stream it from my notebook

[rough yacht]

last time i played years ago (2023 i think) but i was at endgame. everything done and now i'm prestige 1 on mesozoic

[amber canyon]

The browser version is very buggy afaik.

[fluid delta]

42_24 is the current Steam version (not beta). iPadOS version hasn’t quite caught up to it yet though. (I’m sure that has to do with Apple’s App review process)

[thin notch]

How do i get cave painting

[amber canyon]

Whales? They made a deliberate decision to extend the gameplay. Precisely because people could finish it too easily. Imo there's no need to spend any money. But people can if they want to rush it. Howevwr it's an idle game though: time is the intended 'cost'.

ETA: not surprising the end game feels 'bleak' if you've got past the current expected max (RL62). The Devs haven't released those updates yet.

[thin notch]

Will read the answer tomorrow, gotta go eep

[rough yacht]

any help?

[amber canyon]

Check the pinned comments.

[thin forum]

Guys
How do i get The Thoughts of Humans very fast

[modern hatch]

Disable music for a long time and turn on it again
Then the music become so weird

[quiet tiger]

that's not how game development works,
I seriously like the approach with the passes and events to have some regular incentive to spend small amounts of money to support the devs with no strings attached and no subscriptions.

It's an indie game with employees and recurring costs, so your time spent alone does not help the devs to add new content and do quality improvements.

I'm all for discovering ethical and sustainable models for small games teames that regularily add new content. Just saying that the main game upgrade structure just seems like a way to not leave money on the table. which the game did before and which I liked it for and what made it kind of unique in that respect.

[icy magnet]

This is so much progress blocking bruh. How do I progress faster on beyond though ? For me, it takes like 3-4 days each reset and each resets takes longer for me to grind

[rough yacht]

i did check but didn't find an answer to my problem

[tawdry lagoon]

do all the ad boosts and astronomy stuff, also get constellations related to what ur struggling on

and if you REALLY need to you can also buy a star for some more trait cards and constellation fragments

[spare crane]

I think they add a lot of stuff, and the "endgame" is quite uninteresting. Also I have completely missed the mission rewards explits thingie 😄

The entire question of pacing in such a game is so hard to get right for everyone i guess

[amber canyon]

Well, I'm going by what the Devs told us their aim and reasons were. Ofc you are allowed to have your own opinions.

[icy magnet]

Honestly I don't know which stuff I should spend on the constelation. I just put everything on the cheapest thing to get since I need to fulfill the constelation needed to trigger the bonus

[tawdry lagoon]

look at what each one does and get the ones that affect your episodes main stuff

[icy magnet]

I do have the infinite cards and keep everything on max

[tawdry lagoon]

or whatever part you are struggling on

idk cuz beyond progression is decent for me

1 episode every day and a half or so

[icy magnet]

I feel like there should be reset button for constelation

[tawdry lagoon]

what episode u on

[amber canyon]

Not the post about creating a cells account? What was your question again?

[tawdry lagoon]

also whats it called

man they gotta update roadmap

[icy magnet]

I'm on episode 12, I forgor the name of the episode

[rough yacht]

i lost most of my progress. how can i recover it? from the cloud account my save has 2022 date but i'm sure i was playing also in 2023

[amber canyon]

Out of interest, what do you consider end game? I think it's RL62. After that we're beyond the current end game.

[tawdry lagoon]

oh your on heliosphere

yeah that part and exoplanets are a bit slow

it gets a bit quicker afterward

with the heliosphere make sure to always be getting heliosheath

[amber canyon]

Might not have been logged in / auto-uploading. Best to regularly upload manually to the cross-platform saves. And don't rely on Google/Steam back-ups.

I can't magic up an up to date save file for you though 😞.

[tawdry lagoon]

2/3 cost each level

wish cross platform saves would autosave

even though id still do manual lol

[amber canyon]

Mine usually does an automatic one every 24h. But not always, and I have no idea why. It does seem to have got better since the big update though ... For me anyway.

[quiet tiger]

And I just told you what my reason for supporting the game are with out having any knowledge of the deeper podcast and dev lore. After all I still play the game after a few years and treat the main sim as pure anything goes single player experience.

I just came here to the discord to report that the now confirmed exploit still partially exists and reported some UI breaking observations back.

Imho the main sim should be capped by default like the beyond one and not run into wild states by any sort of intentional or unintional bugs.

[tawdry lagoon]

they needa update the roadmap

with the bot

[amber canyon]

The person who made that bot is no longer interested in updating it afaik.

[tawdry lagoon]

ah

[amber canyon]

It's been reported before. I think the mods are stuck with it being out of date, or just removing it completely.

[raw pawn]

I'm sure this has already been asked, but how does one go about opening up all of these upgrade nodes?

[tawdry lagoon]

they dont actually exist yet

stuff for science rework

[tawdry lagoon]

^

[raw pawn]

Ah, that's a relief. Thought I'd left dozens of upgrades' worth of content on the table somewhere. Cheers!

[tawdry lagoon]

scientific update wont be anytime soon sadly since its a pretty big update and they just dropped their biggest update ever

[spare crane]

For me anything that comes after having all stuff unlocked is endgame. Like now RL levels do not bring anything, more upgrades are super expensive, events do not yield real gain since we are stacked with logits, and everything new that comes is finished within a few days of introduction

tbh I somehow would like the game to have more "challenges" like fast singularity, or something like this

or maybe something like a production challenges

[tawdry lagoon]

theres something from another incremental that i think is a really good way to have an endgame

theres a research board that gives bonuses to certain things

but for each research you have to do a reset with extremely restricting debuffs

that takes a long time to do

and the buffs are needed since it gets even harder after that

[spare crane]

Or something that is not dependant on upgrades etc. Since in late game there is so much increment from all upgrades, that its kinda pointless

[pseudo citrus]

new update is fire

frogs

also what's up with the new achievements on steam? I just opened the game rn and got bombed with a bunch of achievements

[orchid imp]

Is the calculation for tap values in beyond known?

I'm building out a spreadsheet of stuff because I'm like that, and... it's certainly not a constant factor of the current per-second earn rate

It seems to fluctuate between .0025 and .0033 but I haven't found a rhyme or reason

[pseudo citrus]

that's interesting

[orchid imp]

@tawdry lagoon you talking revo idle? that one has some really cool concepts

[tawdry lagoon]

no im lwk thinking of a roblox game lol

[orchid imp]

ah lol

[last bramble]

Earlier this year I maxed out some traits in Mesozoic Valley, one thing I noticed is that once a trait is maximised you stop receiving cards for it. When I maximised all my Epic Meso traits the description on Geodes also changed to remove their drop chances.

So I got a question; I doubt anyone has an answer but - Let's say were you maximise all your regular traits in Meso or Beyond before Rare or Epic traits. Would that force card drops into being Rare or Epic traits, or would Geodes and Stars just start awarding 0 cards sometimes?

[zenith smelt]

Does mesozoic valley still boost primary? cause it doesn't show the primary boost in Number of extinctions anymore

[gray yew]

i think they just added them in
had the same experience today

[pseudo citrus]

I am missing one of them though, which I guess is expected, being something about the new reality engine

[gray yew]

me too

[fluid delta]

Yes, there are node(s) in Reality Engine for it

[gray yew]

they seem to be MEGA expensive

so itll be a while until i get them at least

[pseudo citrus]

true

[gray yew]

indeed

[zenith smelt]

It looks to be capped at 50 though

[pseudo citrus]

I can't find Quark Expansion

I think it's above Neutrino Expansion

[zenith smelt]

Is there any point in prestiging anymore then?

[gray yew]

in meso, or primary?

[zenith smelt]

Meso

[gray yew]

hm

not much

i mean it prolly boosts primary
but other than that

[gray yew]

not much incentive

[pseudo citrus]

wouldn't know

[zenith smelt]

It doesn't look like it boosts primary anymore

[pseudo citrus]

it was like this before the update

can't experiment with it

[gray yew]

damn

[pseudo citrus]

I genuinely can't find a part in the reality engine though that directly states that Meso boosts primary simulation

[zenith smelt]

Yeah i went through the entire entropy multiplier list, converter list, and speed modifiers and meso isn't listed anywhere besides the nodes for meso

[celest musk]

3 mins for singularity is already pretty hard, if you're not like ... RL 75 quintillion or whatever.. maybe like five mins to get amphibian but that seems way too fast considering it just came out

[pseudo cliff]

3 mins is omega easy, what

You can get that with a few days of playing

[fluid delta]

Meso only has 50 levels so that makes sense. What is gone is any benefit from Meso Prestige

[zenith smelt]

yeah that's my problem with it

[fluid delta]

In fairness though, 550 was a lot. Now that it’s 50 it is more in line with Beyond (28)

Events benefit is still there and uncapped, but you can’t cheese a ton of them, it rewards time consistently played, which is likely something CL chooses to reward that way

[amber canyon]

Ooh. I didn't realise that about the geodes.

I don't know the answer, but a year or so ago I saw someone on Reddit post an image that said 'we can't give you the card, so here's some mutagen instead. I have ~3.5 months till I max Meso gold traits though.

[fluid delta]

Triassic Terminator node, close to the starting point on the left. Others in that branch are Meso related as well

[amber canyon]

I've only seen Triassic Terminator for Meso Extinction boost - which caps at 50 extinctions.

[last bramble]

It's a small thing, but yeah, it is accounted for.

[amber canyon]

I guess we'll find out in ~10 years ...

[tired plover]

e

[amber canyon]

Or if anybody with a glitched / bugged save wants to experiment. You could ask in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/545344551095894028 ?

[amber canyon]

Also, that's weird progress. Maxed golds but only 150 gigas? You play as weirdly as some others here 🙂.

[amber canyon]

Is it maybe calculating stuff instantaneously? And some generators are still doing discrete rather than per second behind the scenes?

[orchid imp]

the tap value is consistent until you upgrade though

[copper igloo]

for the new Modules, is it best to simply purchase the most expensive ones first? Or is there a suggested order?

[amber canyon]

So ... Consistent for a given progress, but not consistent between differing stages of progress? Rather than fluctuating over time ... No idea. Sorry!

[amber canyon]

If anything, the cheaper ones are likely better value. But you'll need to look at your stats in game to work out which is best for you specifically. Other advice / thoughts: #💬-cells-chat message

[orchid imp]

Yeah, like if you keep tapping it stays the same. Buy another planet or 2 and it changes, as does the displayed payout/sec

[dusk egret]

Guys hhihiihihihihi
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[amber canyon]

Is it when you rank a planet maybe? There might be info on calculations on the wiki ... Can't remember. And it might be wrong too ...

[orchid imp]

I didn't see anything on the wiki. I'll keep playing with it a bit, but it seems like it's either some sort of exponential/geometric drop off, or ... I don't know, tied to something else. Total ranks, total celestial bodies, etc

Do the devs ever chime in on stuff like this?

[languid ruin]

interesting

[orchid imp]

Sedna is easily my highest producer right now, I just super charged it, and tap value stayed the same

[woven agate]

Got a long way to go brother

[orchid imp]

Yeah I know! I did see how deep it gets in the wiki

[languid ruin]

ah fixed

[orchid imp]

I also like to build out sheets to see how long things will take, like time to next rank for whatever objective is coming up, and if ranking something else first will be faster. I wanted to track tapping as part of that as well, but I can't figure out what the tap value is actually tied to

[woven agate]

Uhmmm

I think it's like 20% of your income, I could be wrong

It's not affected by supercharge tho

[tawdry lagoon]

quite intriguing

[pseudo cliff]

Had this bug as well. It just clears itself after some time, right

[languid ruin]

yeah

[amber canyon]

I think Andrew Tach (dev) reacted to me wondering here whether if we reverse engineered all the calculations we would have rebuilt the game, philosophically speaking.

We do see the Devs around relatively often, but we let them join in if the convo they want, rather than pinging them.

[languid ruin]

it fixed itsel

[amber canyon]

Me too (less than you though!) ... My reality reboot spreadsheet #💬-cells-chat message

We had a maths guy on here the other day working out detailed relationships and stuff.

[amber canyon]

Message from Lightmopp asking if anybody wanted to get involved with reverse engineering stuff - #💬-cells-chat message

[rugged snow]

lol silly

[orchid imp]

Will check that out in a bit.. here's what I have so far, very WIP https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bbYnLskZfbIcmQKCWzZ6rPsw8UpKSSlkp0hA5A6VERk/edit?usp=sharing

Times on the longer bodies are probably not accurate, just went through all the stuff that is displaying as rate/s and those should be right on... Except kuiper belt seems to have 1 extra sig fig which worries me

[amber canyon]

One thing I have noticed is that in game time is not necessarily the same as irl time. Worth keeping an eye out for,but unlikely to be affecting the tap thing.

[amber canyon]

Challenge accepted?

So that's where this image came from during the pre-Reboot glitches. I could not work it out ...

[amber canyon]

I'll have a look at yours too. Prob tomorrow now, gotta cook and eat dinner and stuff now.

[true vigil]

hell yeah another fungi event

i fucking love fungi

see

this is the area i played consistently

[hollow marsh]

Limited time events are fun - but brutal on newer players without ads / darwinium surplus

[true vigil]

yea

[woven agate]

"Dairy delights" Wrap it up 💔✌️ ain't no one like this event

[orchid imp]

Were you about to figure out how tap payout is calculated in Beyond?

[strange mica]

I didn't try to, sorry 🙁
My post was referring to the primary simulation only.

Although I haven't figured out the tap payout on the primary either, I don't use taps or auto clickers personally, so I guess I'll add it to the list of things to figure out

[orchid imp]

I am going to try to collect a bit more data, but it didn't seem to be a static factor of the payout/s figure, it changed as bodies were bought. I think I have better numbers now though that might show something different.

[rich storm]

Did they remove the cyborg node in the idea section😭😭

[pseudo cliff]

Beyond is so awfully slow even at low rank. Could I be doing something majorly wrong or is that just how it is

Like, does that look wrong? This will take forever

[cloud trellis]

Hello customers u are the eyes and ears of new york announcement

[vital tinsel]

That's 17 hours or so, it's not slow. Beyond isn't meant to be completed in a few days.

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[dusky fiber]

Hello! Is there any rewards after level 62?

[nova jetty]

Hello
Does anyone have a guide what to invest logic units and darvinium for?
Afaik there was a spreadsheet like that here

[pseudo cliff]

Really? Chatgpt tells me this takes 2 1/2 years lmao

[vital tinsel]

It's a bit longer than what I would say, but that's the idea 😂 it's a matter of months

[nova jetty]

I wonder how long it might take to reach rank 28 of Beyond from Alpha Centauri

[fluid delta]

I think you’ll find that #🏠-general is a much better place for this

[lyric dust]

same lolz

[amber canyon]

The old logit guide is in the pinned comments ... But a lot has changed since then.

[amber canyon]

In the primary sim, not atm. Likely will be in the next/future updates.

[lyric dust]

cheese event goes hard lol

[dusky fiber]

Ok thanks.

[amber canyon]

Nice result in the last event btw!

(saw it in Share your Prestige)

[lyric dust]

tyty :]

it's the best i've ever done-

the second highest was like 500 lol

[nova jetty]

Oh shoot, so ig I have to wait for the most recent one to be available

[amber canyon]

You'll probably find it easier to rank if you give it a bit before joining a new event btw. (Sounds like you've started Cheese already?).

It avoids some of the 💜tryhards💜 with lots of badges.

But start early enough to get your 3 badges.

[nova jetty]

Also is there any max rank for the main simulation after the game core rework?

[amber canyon]

🤷. If one gets made.

It's not as obvious as it was before imo. Depends a lot more on where you are in your game.

[lyric dust]

yeah lol, just started it :P

i only have one cheese badge from last time

[amber canyon]

Max rank? Not that I'm aware of.

Max useful rank? atm rewards end at RL 62.

[nova jetty]

I have sent pics of where am I on #🏆-share-your-prestige

[amber canyon]

Well, crank the music up, and dance like a drunken Bavarian for the next 3 days then!

[rough axle]

#🗣-cells-socials message me when I found out that jimmy b isn’t even named jimmy

[lyric dust]

YEAAAAAAA

[amber canyon]

(would have been a white diamond to finish the Bavarian flag, but for some reason there isn't one on my phone 🤷).

[upbeat magnet]

I gotta get all the badgess I'm at 30 something and I havent missed a badge ye

I had to spend like 70 darwinium for last event cuz i joined so late

[amber canyon]

Oof ...

[upbeat magnet]

i knew i was saving it for a reason

[long raven]

Dang my top 100 got sniped lmao

[upbeat magnet]

im in group 11😭 my placements are cooked

[rough axle]

Actually the single worst division in the game

[upbeat magnet]

why is division 11 worse than any or the earlier ones

[dusk egret]

Hkiiiiiiiiiihiii

[upbeat magnet]

or is it just the first one

[upbeat magnet]

is division 11 like the firts one you can get into

*first

[rough axle]

Yes

[upbeat magnet]

Oh No

[woven agate]

Y'all two's usernames wouldn't collide well

[silent gazelle]

I'm new to the big update that came out a little bit ago, and i'm not sure how to progress. Should i follow the recommended upgrades in the tree? And how often should i be resetting? I'm making Quadrillions of bits but it slows down quite quickly, should I just immediately reset once that happens?

[woven agate]

Wtv you feel like tbh, like just get the things and rebirth when it seems convenient

[silent gazelle]

I thought i wasn't supposed to ask you for advice twin

[woven agate]

Uhm

That wasn't advice or something

[silent gazelle]

that was evil advice

[dusk egret]

hi

[velvet ruin]

dead chat?

[rough axle]

23 minutes...

[regal blaze]

how to get cyborgs again

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

theyve been removed

[regal blaze]

oh god, why

they were great

[rough axle]

getting reworked

[cobalt rivet]

hi guys am new

well not new to the game

to the server

my progress btw :D

also idk how to suggest can anyone help me with that

[lament temple]

How do I make a suggestion in Discord?

• Go to #🎭-semblance. Use the /suggest command and type your suggestion in the dialog box. Your suggestion will first be reviewed by the moderators (to make sure it's related to the game/server and isn’t a troll), and if it's approved, it will appear in #💡-suggestions for other people (and maybe the developers) to see. Do not create a thread directly in #💡-suggestions because that won't count and the thread will eventually be deleted.

Frequently Asked Questions • Requested by Arch Dux

[rough axle]

@cobalt rivet

[cobalt rivet]

thank uu :D

[silent gazelle]

How do i get out of the quadrillions in metabits? i'm making such little progress it feels like im doing something wrong

[jaunty shard]

[agile radish]

Lol I think it's hilarious that not quite cheese takes cheese to make and produces cheese....

[long raven]

So I just bought this, and it won’t actually unlock yet. Is there another prerequisite?

[cobalt rivet]

maybe the heliosphere

im not sure

[main kernel]

you gotta reach far enough to actually see it

[long raven]

I figured that was the case, just wanted to double check

Thank you

[agile radish]

Voyager 2 is what past the heliosphere... And Voyager one is past the ort cloud or something like that...

[long raven]

Gotcha

[fluid delta]

neither are past or have even reached the Oort cloud in RL

[agile radish]

It's past sedna and I doesnt voyager one reach the ort cloud in a few years I'll have to check remember reading something about it... Anyone think it will survive thru it...

Woah nvm... It will take another 300 years to reach the oort cloud

[fluid delta]

You probably were thinking of the Kuiper Belt

[agile radish]

Ya... Lol

[fluid delta]

Voyager 1 is about 1 light-day away. The nearest star system (trinary system) is roughly 1500 light-days away, so.. yeah. Space is big. BIIIIIIIG! 🙂

[agile radish]

Ya vast and mostly empty...

[fluid delta]

sooooo very empty

[cobalt rivet]

any ideas what this could be

i myself think its plants but im not entirely sure???

i mean im only guessing bc its close to the chloroplasts but

[fluid delta]

Hmm.. maybe Mollusks? We know those are coming next in that section of Primary..

[rough axle]

i know exactly what it is but im not allowed to say

[thin notch]

Devs post sneak peek in the Discord right?

[agile radish]

And ya I had a few telescopes.... Very expensive hobby... Still got my Odyssey compact 10in dobsonian... Sold my Schmidt casselgrant 12in and most my eyepieces yrs ago...

[thin notch]

Do you guys think i can use this game for my studies

[agile radish]

Studies for what???

[thin notch]

Actually more of knowledge

[agile radish]

U can learn lil tidbits but better off reading a reference book really... Granted those aren't cheap either...

When it comes to astronomy... Get a physics book and the program starry night... its not the same as physically viewing but it's close enough...

[sacred fog]

??? Just randomly popped up. What are converter fills?

[fluid delta]

This game: Not really, but there's tons of resources online, if you want to learn.

[sacred fog]

For some reason last event was a struggle for me. Idk what was going on. I didn't join late and I spent a good amount of time in it. But I just did not get anywhere. Like legitimately my progress was so slow I was wondering if there was a bug going on. Anyone else have that experience.

[fluid delta]

It was fast for me. Ofc it would be bc past badges, but still, it seemed about like it normally was.

[sacred fog]

Yeah I completed it once before(maybe more times?), and I have no memory of it being this hard or any event really. Maybe I'm just coping because of sucking lol.

[upbeat magnet]

right??? currency generated SO SLOW

[sacred fog]

What's the 0/159 mean though?

[rough axle]

you cant reboot again until after it fills up 159 times

[fluid delta]

And the number seems to get lower, the higher the Reality Level you are? Or maybe it's based on the amount of nodes completed? Not sure

[rough axle]

i think its based on the number of reboots

[fluid delta]

So if you keep doing reboots, it gets lower and lower?

[long raven]

I assume it’s the other way around

[fluid delta]

I'm at 217 reboots, and last I looked this morning, I think my converter fills needed is 3?

[long raven]

I can test it rq, I have to get to 5qa metabits so I’ll just reboot now, see how many I need to reboot again, and check the new number

70 to reboot;

[sacred fog]

Yeah I was only like 10/12 done, and there were multiple times where I just left an auto-clicker on for hours.

[fluid delta]

An autoclicker for the event? Really?

(I ask that bc I sure didn't need one for it)

[long raven]

71 now

I believe it goes up 1 per reboot

[upbeat magnet]

jeeeez
i must have lucked out then (I play on mobile)

[fluid delta]

I do events on mobile too. One key thing with events only: it's strongly advantageous to not sit in-game

[fluid delta]

it can't, else I'd be at some huge number

[long raven]

Idk man

I just did the test and that was the result

Maybe your game bugged

[sacred fog]

Yeah, as I said something felt off. Multiple times I wondered if I was missing a generator that would give me a huge boost or something lol

[fluid delta]

It would be a sweet bug if so, but I would be surprised if it was so... and I'm not sure, but I think others here over the past couple days have reported numbers that didn't fit with their reboots

Maybe it's level based as well? What's your RL?

If it's low then maybe that's why.. or at least a factor

[long raven]

49

[sacred fog]

Mine went up to 160

[long raven]

Let me check my resets

[fluid delta]

what was it before?

[long raven]

I’ve reset 72 times

[sacred fog]

Was at 159 in my last screenshot

[long raven]

And considering the first one is for “tutorial” purposes

It’s consistent with my reboots

[long raven]

Have rebooted 161 times?

[sacred fog]

Nah it says 117 for me. Maybe it's a weird combination of things? Or the number on the stats screen is off?

[long raven]

Hmm

[fluid delta]

The other thing is, and it may be unique to me based on discussion about this yesterday: I don't have to do any fills to reboot.. mind you, by the time I ran through Primary it would have done them, but I can do just one tap of DNA and it will let me reboot.. I forget but it might even let me reboot without that (bc I have the starter 10K metabits + ideas from whatever node that was)

[long raven]

At the end of the day anyway, it doesn’t really matter. Your upgrades cause those cycles to fill extremely fast anyway that you probably hit the amount required before even hitting idea productions

[fluid delta]

True

.. though in that case, why have it at all?

and if it's for new players, some explanation would really help

[long raven]

It only mattered early game honestly

[fluid delta]

bc us more expert players are kinda mystified

[sacred fog]

162 now lol

[long raven]

But if you choose to not upgrade and save your bits for something expensive, in which case constantly rebooting everytime you hit idea production, those fills would eventually catch up to you

[long raven]

Maybe it starts hitting +2 at a certain point?

[fluid delta]

heh everything on the tree is expensive by the time only a few nodes per side are left!!

[long raven]

Yeah idk man, you got it lucky only needing 3

[fluid delta]

It is weird, yeah

[lyric dust]

^ this lol

also, how do the linked roles work?

the webpage for them doesn't work :/

[lament temple]

How do I get progression roles?

• The way roles used to work in the Cells Discord server is through a fancy feature called “Linked Roles.” An update a few months ago broke the linked roles system, and because linked roles have been broken for so long, the moderators have decided to revert to the old method of assigning game progression roles: manually. Post screenshots of your progress in #🏆-share-your-prestige, and you might get some snazzy roles if your progress meets certain requirements.
  -# In case you want to look at the requirements, please click on the server's top bar, then select 'Linked Roles'. You can view the requirements of each role there.

Frequently Asked Questions • Requested by Arch Dux

[lyric dust]

thanks o7

[nocturne ginkgo]

so what happened to the future humans area?

from before

[lyric dust]

i think it comes up later now

[azure turtle]

It is currently removed and will be readded later

[nocturne ginkgo]

k, was that the only area to be removed?

[azure turtle]

Yeah, I believe so

[nocturne ginkgo]

k

thanks

[rough axle]

Wait a minute

[acoustic thicket]

What

[rough axle]

Same photo…

[lyric dust]

oh

true

[fluid delta]

I'm not seeing what you're getting at. That all looks normal to me, when you haven't completed Primary yet. Or am I missing something?

[rough axle]

Cargo missions and international space station are two separate modes that use the same image

[fluid delta]

huh. so they do

[rough axle]

Is 61 or 62 the last level you unlock something

[fluid delta]

62 I think

[rough axle]

Good to know

I’m writing down what you unlock at every level

[fluid delta]

Not a bad idea!

[rough axle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12h5b3juWPDlNOyIjaby_V42Fohj3qILDbYglm2o2nf4

If something is in caps then it’s a major glitch

Erm… wrong channel

[worn dirge]

wrong image 😭

thanks

More achievements :D

[rough axle]

Yup

Good luck getting all of them though

[worn dirge]

don't know why i dont own these yet

[worn dirge]

thanks

[fluid delta]

go into Beyond. That should be enough for Steam to notice, like it was for me

[worn dirge]

+6 achievements

ill get the secret achievement in like a week

god please this is going to be pain

[fluid delta]

Heh. You can do iiiiit!

[long raven]

Finna introduce this game to someone

Very enjoyable experience

[thin notch]

Something something regarding getting a shark early. got the Whale shark, does this mean i don't have to login for 84 days?

[fluid delta]

no, it won’t mean that

[faint hinge]

How do I get a lot of Metabits and Knowledge quickly?

[terse vigil]

uh

there isn't much you can do

would recommend playing the waiting game

[faint hinge]

alright

[terse vigil]

reboot every weekend or so

[faint hinge]

yea

[long raven]

I somehow glitched out my Simulator and got a Singularity time of 33 seconds

Idk what happened

[amber canyon]

Upgrading/rebooting spamming is the fastest way. Otherwise wait and save up Metabits/Knowledge while buying your most effective generators and any dw/logit things you can.

[lyric dust]

i got like 8 when i opened it the other day lmfaooo

[lyric dust]

fr-

[amber canyon]

One tap gets me hundreds of fills too. On my reboot save (RL 52). It still wants me to have them before it lets me reboot. Even though it's easy.

[amber canyon]

Lots of nodes in the tree hidden for now. But that's the only big branch removed.

[lyric dust]

usually when i restart and buy the first generator, it fills my requirement in seconds lol

[amber canyon]

Yeah. Even if I turn it to buy 1, rather than max I still can't get back to the RE metabit fill page in time to see the exact number it changes at.

We need a speed runner!

[chrome isle]

Damn this beyond episode was short

[amber canyon]

Yeah. I think ylthe ones with diamond-shaped nodes often are. Takes a while to finish those though (although you can continue without them finished).