💬-cells-chat

[amber canyon]

We need @shrewd rampart to do some maths!

Was ... ?

[hushed rapids]

we only get half

[amber canyon]

I think that's what the 'Time' nodes are supposed to do ...

[amber canyon]

Ah! Thanks!

[hushed rapids]

make this actually decent

Actually

Make it exponental

And at one hour it is x2

[amber canyon]

After 24h that got to a MASSIVE 1.248 for me.

[hushed rapids]

30 min x1.10

[sterile rose]

Yo was there a patch?

[fluid delta]

yes

[sterile rose]

I just got a ton of quests to get rewards for

[fluid delta]

yesterday

[hushed rapids]

etc

[fluid delta]

reality engine and primary got revamped

[hushed rapids]

wait let me actually make a formula

[sterile rose]

Yeah but something else definitely changed

Like

[rough axle]

a bug fix?

[sterile rose]

I rebooted and suddenly I got a bunch of quests for stuff like getting access to dna

[hushed rapids]

how much should 2 hours be

[proper lotus]

x = n^2

[fluid delta]

I haven't seen anything like that

[hushed rapids]

no..

[proper lotus]

im so good at this

[hushed rapids]

too powerful

[proper lotus]

no trust me it is very balanced

👆👆

[fluid delta]

It is not

anyway, it isn't up to us, that's for the devs to figure out how (or if) they will handle it

[amber canyon]

Are you beta? There were hot-fixes and patches etc for them. Testing the bug fixes for normal players I guess.

[sterile rose]

Nope

[proper lotus]

ohh I got it
x = n^0 👍

[sterile rose]

Never got the beta

[amber canyon]

What's your version? Mine's 41_90 (android) and is up to date.

[fluid delta]

41_90 (iPadOS) and is up to date

[sterile rose]

41.90

Maybe mine was just bugged for a bit idk

I’ll take the free darwinium

[shrewd rampart]

Sorry, I'm having classes rn!

[amber canyon]

Weird. Did you refund or reset?

Or start from a new file?

I never got any quests or anything. Just dropped in to a 75% played game.

[hushed rapids]

what should 2 hours boost be

[shrewd rampart]

Also, I did try to calculate the new offline gain rate

It's written as 50% but I have doubts

[sterile rose]

Nah

[shrewd rampart]

I feel like it's more than 50%

Give me time, then!

[sterile rose]

Maybe I confused the game by reloading it right after a prestige?

Idk

It’s to my own benefit so I’ll take it

[amber canyon]

Idk ... I know the whole 8 of them after 24in-game hours made a substantial difference to the speed my game feels ...

[shrewd rampart]

@amber canyon Ehhhh...?

[hushed rapids]

what

ima just put 12

.-.

[shrewd rampart]

This is the supposed entropy gain per second if we follow the offline gain that's roughly 1 hour and 21 minutes (or 81 minutes)

[main kernel]

when did we get to debug

[shrewd rampart]

...wait, is there an RE upgrade that boosts entropy gain based on current simulation time?

[amber canyon]

I've noticed that - just like before - the game's opinion of how long it's been can differ quite a lot from me and my clock.

[shrewd rampart]

That's happened to me multiple times too, yeah!

[hushed rapids]

@amber canyon 1.8\cdot t^{0.6} what is your opinion of this

bruh

[shrewd rampart]

I can chat rn even though I'm in class, but I can't exactly give you an accurate answer since I can't focus on the game

[hushed rapids]

1.8 * t ^ 0.6

could be shrunk a bit down

[shrewd rampart]

Entropy boosts, huh?

[amber canyon]

Gimme a mo.

Currently btw, after 2 in game hours, the Metabit time Crystal is 1.019

[hushed rapids]

yeah

ik

it sucks

gives almost nth

[amber canyon]

Nvm. Imma going to sleep soon.

[hushed rapids]

Plus it is near useless because by the time you even get there all the metabits you can physically earn are all gone

[shrewd rampart]

@amber canyon Give me 5 minutes, the result won't be accurate tho (accuracy would probably be 80-90%)

[amber canyon]

Er ... Will have to think.

I'm still trying to get a feeling for metabits-entropy and ideas-knowledge.
I'm measuring what they currently are though.

[hushed rapids]

k

[shrewd rampart]

This should be how much I'll gain from 5 minutes of going offline, I'll also screenshot the actual gain and my entropy gain per second after going offline

[amber canyon]

Charge your phone!

[shrewd rampart]

I'm in class silly!

[amber canyon]

I Def want to try understand the Metabit conversion to entropy. Not today though ...

[shrewd rampart]

1 more minute til the results are out

[amber canyon]

But the exponent needs to be something relative to that.

[hushed rapids]

Oh this was the boost of time based off of

it was to fix the

..

the uhm

issue with how time

[hushed rapids]

this

[shrewd rampart]

Pardon my mistake, I forgot the supposed 50% offline gain rate variable @amber canyon

[alpine hemlock]

Hey i was going through screenshots of people’s achievements and i couldnt help but see there’s an achievement that has a fancy looking “B” with a star next to it? What’s that one for?

[amber canyon]

For people who were involved in the alpha or beta testing of the Reboot Update.

[alpine hemlock]

Ohhh

Dang, one I’ll never get lol

[shrewd rampart]

@amber canyon The offline gain rate is indeed 50%, but I have no leads whatsoever as to how the game calculates our offline gain (as in, does the game use the entropy/s before going offline or after logging in)

For that kind of calculation, I might need to go offline for 1-2 hours, since the jump from 1.87e102 to 1.88e102 is very miniscule

You might wanna go to #🏠-general for this sort of stuff.

[cloud trellis]

K

[shrewd rampart]

Thank you for your cooperation!

[amber canyon]

Yah. I just want to (try) understand the actual costs/conversion rate before deciding what I'd like the 8 Time nodes to do 😁

[hushed rapids]

k

[shrewd rampart]

老板，I'm gonna focus on class for now. I'll come back in around 3 hours.

[cloud trellis]

Bro has class at 8:34 pm

That's crazy

[amber canyon]

Thanks @shrewd rampart and @hushed rapids - But I gotta go to sleep now. Maybe pick up next time?

[steep vortex]

Different time zones buddy🤦‍♂️💀

[shrewd rampart]

(Probably around <t:1763699400:t>)

[shrewd rampart]

Well, to be fair, I do have classes that can go up to midnight, lol

[hushed rapids]

gn

[steep vortex]

Gn

[shrewd rampart]

Alright, get some rest 老板!

Sleep well!

[cloud trellis]

Look at general off topic I got dem 20s lol

[hushed rapids]

what..

[cloud trellis]

U broke or smtn irl?

[alpine hemlock]

i deleted my question from a bit ago cause i cannot remember if im supposed to ask in the general channel or not, its been awhile since i last was active

[hushed rapids]

no.. I am just more confused on why..

[pale nimbus]

aw dang it

[alpine hemlock]

ooof

[pale nimbus]

has anyone gotten quark expansion

[nocturne ginkgo]

question what's all the nodes for around atomic age and when can I unlock them?

[pale nimbus]

soon

not yet out

[rough axle]

1. placeholders for a future update
2. you cant

[nocturne ginkgo]

k nice to know and look forward too

[pale nimbus]

excuse me

[untold lily]

It uses the rate when logging on; if you buy generators before receiving offline earnings message, you away time is more effective than it should have been

[untold lily]

??
124 AI event badges?

[pale nimbus]

its not the event

[untold lily]

Confused again

[fluid delta]

if you are asking what it is, I think it's the number of Reality Engine nodes you can currently buy from

[untold lily]

I thought that aswell, but can't be right at this point

[noble cradle]

This explore event feels quite slow compared to the last one hmm

My current progress on it

[strange wing]

The AI generator at the middle cost raise by 2 every time you bought it

[untold lily]

You can always skip time with darwinium

[umbral bison]

Should i place them 50/50 or 30/70 etc.

[fluid delta]

but don't do that

[fluid delta]

not sure how you mean

[umbral bison]

In this menu

Should i focus on the right one or left one

[strange wing]

I make both balanced

[untold lily]

50 50, but do orange 1 first

[fluid delta]

oh that. idk. rn (maybe not in a future update), you get way less Knowledge (right side) than Metabits (left side), so favoring right side might make sense

[untold lily]

Btw, I thought making a thread in #💡-suggestions would make a suggestion, like the previous ones, but it didnt

Help?

[rough axle]

thats not how you make a suggestion

[untold lily]

Apparently

But how do I make one?

[rough axle]

read the channel description

[untold lily]

You have the most AI like status ever btw

"X is not just y, but even z" is commonly used by chatgpt

[rough axle]

i know

i intentionally worded it that way

even got that em dash

[desert pebble]

Huuuhh...

Yep, that's definitely gonna be a aquatic branch

[kindred umbra]

Is this normal for the mind machines event?

[alpine hemlock]

Hey does anyone have a screenshot available of all reboot reality profile pic choices?

[karmic pier]

so whats the best thing to buy with in the new update

[rough axle]

Yes

[kindred umbra]

thx

[mighty vault]

THAT'S where giant squid is. I looked for it for like fifteen minutes the other day and couldn't find it whatsoever

[desert pebble]

Yeah, I honestly didn't realize the Giant Squid was moved

In fact, I completely forgot about its existence

[mighty vault]

I kept seeing it pop up in my Science section and was very confused

[desert pebble]

Unfortunately, they nerfed it HARD

It originally multiplied the Fish generator a lot, making it one of the best

[mighty vault]

Yep. To be honest, it was really overpowered. In truth, you could get Capybara and Giant Squid and you'd kinda be set.

[alpine hemlock]

Ooof, RIP Giant Squid meta

[desert pebble]

Absolutely

[rough axle]

[alpine hemlock]

Also mega rip to jellyfish meta

[desert pebble]

Oh yeah, it's actually jellyfish

That it improved

Now it only multiplies Simulation Speed by 2x 😒

[prime vale]

fr

i got the legacy neutrino expansion cuz of jellyfish meta

[mighty vault]

So did I

[alpine hemlock]

I honestly dont remember how i got the 50 Qi metabit Neutrino Expansion upgrade when i got it, i just got excited when i had gotten it lol

[mighty vault]

I didn't get it I'll be real, no clue how I have the legacy neutrino relic

[desert pebble]

Same

Actually it's way worse

Only 1.2x

Is it even worth anything, for now?

[mighty vault]

1.2x simulation speed is not bad

[alpine hemlock]

I do wish that the actual percentages were still a thing tbh, it’s a lot easier to understand lol

[pale nimbus]

oh yes and its all gonna be in ideas

[alpine hemlock]

Oh cool!

[mighty vault]

How on earth did you manage to get all of those wow

[pale nimbus]

oh my god!!! evil amino acid!!

[desert pebble]

?????

[pale nimbus]

yeah this is definitely a bug

[alpine hemlock]

Wait sending stats is fine here?

[pale nimbus]

am i tweaking

[desert pebble]

Well, you have the Neutrino level upgrades, and almost all Speed Bossters

[pale nimbus]

huh whats quantum slipstream

[desert pebble]

One of the last upgrades

[mighty vault]

Really expensive is what it is lol

50 quintillion metabits

[desert pebble]

Better post these in #🏆-share-your-prestige

[alpine hemlock]

Alright! Apologies

[desert pebble]

It's alright

[fluid delta]

You can show your stats here, but you won't get the discord roles if you do it here

[desert pebble]

We were initially trying to compare the speed multipliers, but it got out of hand

[alpine hemlock]

Ah, alright

[desert pebble]

But damn

[alpine hemlock]

I went ahead and deleted my post here and sent it to #🏆-share-your-prestige lol

[desert pebble]

They nerfed almost all the Logit trophys

[alpine hemlock]

Frrr

[mighty vault]

Are they cheaper? I noticed the beyond ones were

[desert pebble]

Not really

The beyond were aways the cheapest

[pale nimbus]

sisyphus

[desert pebble]

The most expensive was only 50

[rough axle]

*150

[alpine hemlock]

Say, Dwelt? Do you have the reality reboot profile pictures/3D picture things on CtS?

[desert pebble]

💀

[pale nimbus]

how the HELL am i getting 4 Sx bro

[mighty vault]

That might actually take forever lol best of luck

[desert pebble]

Yeah, I actually got a little confused by that

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[desert pebble]

Most of these 3D profiles existed already, but were unobtainable

[pale nimbus]

IS THAT WHAT I THINK IT IS

[alpine hemlock]

As far as i know they’re supposed to be available right after updating, but i dont think i got mine

[desert pebble]

Really?

[alpine hemlock]

Yeah, the ones that were shown for the reality reboot, i dont have to my current knowledge

[desert pebble]

Well, I lost my Neutrino Trophy, that I got even without getting the last Neutrino upgrade when updated

[desert pebble]

You got at least the Singularity profile?

[alpine hemlock]

I have the 3D image yes, but i was thinking of making a bug report to try getting the others tbh

[mighty vault]

And, actually, I swapped out my earth-semblance-sun profile picture for a different one and it appears to be gone. Odd.

[rough axle]

known bug and will be fixed soon

[alpine hemlock]

Alright

[mighty vault]

sick

[alpine hemlock]

Well, i do hope i get them in the next update then

[pale nimbus]

please bro let it end

[turbid granite]

Just to double check I'm not missing where things moved, we no longer have the synthesizer to get 3 free darwinium when it fills up right?

[alpine hemlock]

oh!

[rough axle]

we do

[alpine hemlock]

actually it goes up to 4 now!

[rough axle]

its jsut now locked behind reality engine upgrades

[mighty vault]

You can get four but it needs a few reboot upgrades i think

[turbid granite]

Ah ok thanks! I'll read through the upgrades then 😊

[alpine hemlock]

i wonder if 4 is the limit, or if there's more

the new limit*

[rough axle]

it is

[alpine hemlock]

Ah okie

[rough axle]

i think in alpha it used to go up to 6 but they changed it

[alpine hemlock]

honestly, making it 4 and also making it easier to obtain from waiting (3 ish hours instead of 7 ish hours) has been awesome

[pale nimbus]

looks like im not getting research level- oh.

[desert pebble]

Can you show the last upgrades in the top, just to check something

[alpine hemlock]

im so used to the "Normal" notation setting that when they switched it up to "Scientific" i had to go back to "Normal" cause i couldnt switch it, soo used to word getting bigger thus better xD

[mighty vault]

Yeah same lol

[desert pebble]

I honestly can only use Scientific

The abbreviations are just too much to me

[fluid delta]

Custom notation is the one I like the most

[pale nimbus]

what does this say

[dreamy echo]

Qisxg

👻

[desert pebble]

😂

[dreamy echo]

i just know Qi =5 sx = 6, the g means 10, so it's 65 (10^65)

wait no 10^3*65

[mighty vault]

reading it with my super vision i can see it says "this is a book" forty thousand times in the shape of words I can't see

[dreamy echo]

10^195 i think

[rare bison]

Just wondering, how long does it typically take to a post in #1010249890414202880 for a response? Because technically I don't know whether it's a bug or it's just gated now due to the update.

[dreamy echo]

not sure it's readable tbh, i think you'd have to recongize which text they took this from and read that

[rough axle]

[desert pebble]

I can see that, but it's a little harder for me since English is not my first language

[dreamy echo]

id say 0-10 days or so

[dreamy echo]

english has nothing to do with it tbh

it's latin really

and i dont know latin

[rare bison]

I shall be patient then. thanks.

[desert pebble]

Ok, thanks

[mighty vault]

tbh I just got the abbreviations down pat and from there you can extrapolate

[fluid delta]

Just use Custom.. K,M,B,T,AA,BB,CC....ZZ,AAA,BBB,CCC...ZZZ,AAAA,BBBB, (etc).. all increments of 1000x. Easy

[dreamy echo]

although english references latin enough for me to have these fairly know (eg in math)

[rough axle]

scientific>>>

[dreamy echo]

true

[fluid delta]

No, scientific doesn't use powers of 1000x, which makes it much harder to instantly compare

[desert pebble]

Ehh, might be my brain too slow to process this notation

[dreamy echo]

i prefer normal slightly more than scientific, but not for math, only for the displaying

[rough axle]

womp womp we live in a base 10 world not a base 1000 world

[desert pebble]

Yeah, but it's only 10 to 10

[dreamy echo]

so you're saying we need engineering notation

[fluid delta]

M (million), B (billion), T (trillion), then uses the alphabet, in order. That's the idea

[desert pebble]

I know

[dreamy echo]

it would be a good addition (im definitely not ripping this from someone's suggestion)

[fluid delta]

Probably. But even here, having letters for the exponent is visually different from numbers, so it's easier to mentally process

[rough axle]

but if they had engineering notation...

[dreamy echo]

no?

it's harder

[desert pebble]

Would be interesting

[fluid delta]

It's easier. But I do agree replacing Sci Notation with Eng Notation

[desert pebble]

Probably use it

[dreamy echo]

not replacing

adding

[fluid delta]

Sure, adding. Fine with me

[dreamy echo]

scientific is still good

[desert pebble]

I think it would be best

[junior verge]

I don’t think this is correct, you can’t just go off the prefixes because billion for example is 10^3x3 (not 10^3x2), I think it works if you just add 3 though

[dreamy echo]

i think it's rare for someone to think custom is easiest, most would think scientific is easiest in my experience
i wonder what psychological factors influence notation preference

[desert pebble]

Good question

[dreamy echo]

maybe, i havent converted numbers like this in a while so i may have made an error

yeah it's E198

[fluid delta]

I'm not saying it's universally better, but in the context of this game, where you are usually comparing numbers of relatively close magnitudes at once, it's very nice, IMO

[junior verge]

I got extremely used to the standard (?) one and now find myself having to get accustomed to scientific, but I’m leaving it that way for now

[dreamy echo]

i checked the wiki page i ripped that from

-# still uses fandom smh

[junior verge]

The “long scale” doesn’t have this problem though

[dreamy echo]

engineering ym?

oh wait

like milliard?

billiard?

[junior verge]

Yeah it’s a bit obscure in the anglophone world

[turbid granite]

The sets of 3 is much harder for me than scientific so I would personally prefer adding rather than replacing anything if thats an option.

I think if you are used to working with scientific notation in your daily life. Versus if you're more used to working with stuff like money or population that tends to be reported in the sets of 3 (millions billions trillions)

[junior verge]

Well it goes by power multiples of 6

[dreamy echo]

yeah, it was popular for a while, but kinda died out iirc

i think some languages still use it at least some

[junior verge]

It would be fine it we just had thousand be million instead and shifted everything down

[dreamy echo]

and ik some languages have completely different number systems

[junior verge]

Then the prefixes would always denote how many multiple-of-three powers of ten there are

[dreamy echo]

often those have traditional vs these damn colonists'

[dreamy echo]

fair

[junior verge]

Indian numbering system uses 1,000 for thousand but 1,00,000 for 100 thousand, and everything above is a comma every two

1,00,000 is a lakh and 1,00,00,000 is a crore

[dreamy echo]

oh yeah

[junior verge]

Bit confusing 😅

[dreamy echo]

the thing is, even if i did bother to learn them, it would only be trivia for me

i couldn't do anything with that

[fluid delta]

reminds me a bit of the LSD monetary system that got used for centuries!

[junior verge]

Yeah the names for very big numbers are kind of just a curiosity, no one really uses them

[dreamy echo]

lsd?

[junior verge]

LSD?????

[dreamy echo]

isn't that (also) a drug

[junior verge]

At first I read LDS I thought it was a Mormon number system

[fluid delta]

Heh... Think Pounds, Shillings, Pence... though the words are latin origin, hence LSD

[dreamy echo]

ahh

no they were just trading drugs

[fluid delta]

librae, solidae, denarius.. I think?

[dreamy echo]

trust

[junior verge]

Never heard of that, interesting

[fluid delta]

The romans themselves used a decimal system, though.. as I understand it

[dreamy echo]

sounds right but im not a realiable source on this

[dreamy echo]

for their number system?

no, it's weirder

[junior verge]

Really, how late was that, decimal was an innovation from Indian mathematics so it had to make its way west

[oak kiln]

Has anyone achieved rank 62, and if so, how?

[dreamy echo]

I = 1, V = 5, X = 10, L = 50, C = 100, D = 500, M = 1000, and idk if they had higher

[fluid delta]

Well.. only the copper coin, the denarius or whatever it was called, was the standard.. then the ones above it were more of an accounting thing.. not that accounting had been invented per se, but same difference

[dreamy echo]

you combine those to make numbers

hmm wait it might be decimal?

kinda a hybrid

[fluid delta]

I'm at 64.7 roughly. I know I saw a 65 and a 66... not sure how the 66, that might have been from a beta player. The "trick" (if there is one), is to reboot as often as possible

[dreamy echo]

but not place value notation

[shrewd rampart]

Thanks!

[junior verge]

Oh yeah I guess it is decimal in that sense I was thinking of place value yeah

[dreamy echo]

that was an arabic invention iirc

or indian

[shrewd rampart]

Hi Sephie!

[dreamy echo]

either one

[fluid delta]

Hiya Alice!!

[junior verge]

I think it was Indian but made its way west via Arabs, although Arabs had plenty of their own innovations of course

[dreamy echo]

yeah that sounds reasonable

arabic math was essentially kickstarted by a guy bringing indian math to the arab world

...and then they wrote a million treatises on euclids elements

they loved greek math afaik

they took it and made it 1000x better

[junior verge]

Also did a lot with Greek philosophy especially Aristotle

[dreamy echo]

and then european math was kickstarted by arabic math in a similar way

[sacred parcel]

I noticed the "Legacy Reboot" thingy isn't an option with the Reality Reboot update, did I just miss that or did that get scrapped?

[fluid delta]

you didn't miss it. It's not in the current version. Idk if it will get added

[sacred parcel]

Oh

[dreamy echo]

there were multiple instances of a european bringing arabic math to an area of europe and kickstarting the local math

[junior verge]

History of math is really interesting

[dreamy echo]

i just realized this is more of a #🏠-general thing though

[dreamy echo]

true

[fluid delta]

#🏠-general is where threads go to die. lol

[dreamy echo]

i did a project on it and took on way too much

[junior verge]

This has kind of become general chat if we’re being honest 😭

[dreamy echo]

accurate

[fluid delta]

general chat, but actually intelligent chat! the actual general chat here is... well....not great

[dreamy echo]

i tried doing everything from what i'd call "proto-math" to the start of the renaissance in europe, so i could focus on non-european or little known european math

that's a textbook or two

[plush viper]

I am glad I helped test in beta version

[dreamy echo]

not a school project

i cut down days before the assignment was due and kept working on making it presentable until i presented it

[junior verge]

Beast!

A lot of non-European mathematics didn’t necessarily make its way to Europe but lots of fascinating and advanced traditions around the world

It’s interesting how recent a lot of conventions in math are too

Like notation and stuff

(This is on topic because C2S uses mathematical notations)

(And also has a math event)

[dreamy echo]

in the end, it was indian math from the baudhayana sutra in ~800 BC to Bhaska II in 1100, which was also way too much

i should've just focused on one person

idk why i thought i could handle it

i did well enough on the presentation

i feel like i kinda fumbled a couple times, but yk

and then afterwards i could finally play deltarune

anw ive had skong open in the background for like an hour, i should get back to that

[junior verge]

Well earned

[dreamy echo]

ping me if you continue

[junior verge]

That’s super cool I’d listen to that presentation

No ur good enjoy ur game!!!

Gonna sleep soon

[twin inlet]

Guys I lost the Darwinium Synthesizer location where is it again?

[rich zenith]

did the game just erased all my progress

i was trying to login to my account but it the login feature doesn't work, but i can still see friends somehow

[twin inlet]

Thank you, but I meant where you collect it from

[rough axle]

The darwinium menu

[turbid granite]

I found it, you have to tap on the Darwinium cube in the upper left corner, it's still there it's just not under "Boost" anymore

[twin inlet]

Ok I found it

Thank ya guy

[lethal gorge]

How it's possible for a single charge to take 100 days if the event lasts only 3 days, is the new event about AI bugged or is it intentionally?

[surreal dawn]

The timer gets shorter with more upgrades

[lethal gorge]

I see, thanks 👍

[thin bay]

wtf why, I dont even get the joke WHY IS IT FUNNY TO NEW GENS

[thin bay]

~read~

[surreal dawn]

Right did anybody else legacy thing gone suddenly

The one that should appear at the reality engine if you got neutrino before

[thin bay]

no anything but that

[untold lily]

There are at least 2 more idea boosters of 100 upgrades :P

[pale nimbus]

.

[untold lily]

It will literally be the last tree branch to upgrade lol

[hexed yoke]

It is so lonely here

[cloud creek]

So when am i gonna be able to refund reality engine

whys it still broken

[mossy vault]

is there a guide to upgrades and modules yet?

[shrewd rampart]

meow

quite the jump...

[loud loom]

What a jump

[upper ivy]

well that's irritating

I shoulda called outta work lol

[cloud creek]

is there a certain threshhold where i should stop buying diamond geodes before prestiging

i wanna not spend darwinium as much as possible

[fluid delta]

Don't waste your money on Geodes or the equivalent for Beyond. You can get them for Free for doing well in Events, and you will need a LOT of Darwinium for everything you need.. idk, maybe 5000 or 6000 total from the very beginning? not sure.

[cloud creek]

i ain't ever doing well in events

plus i am prestiging too fast and too ambitiously

[fluid delta]

You will if you play at all regularly

[cloud creek]

i do

i was top 5

[upper ivy]

I made it to first place yesterday.
Dropped to 12th when I went to work lmao

[cloud creek]

and last moment i jumped to 110

[fluid delta]

that never happens to me. If you have intermittent internet where you are, where the game sometimes can't contact the server, that could be one explanation.. bc I've seen jumps like that only in that circumstance

[cloud creek]

i mean i basically went to sleep

and that was the end of it all

[fluid delta]

Then how is that "last moment"? But yeah, if you went to sleep for 10 hours or whatever, and didn't get back on before the event ended, that could be why

[cloud creek]

6 hours : P

last moment as in i felt rather helpless about it

[upper ivy]

Shame on you for sleeping

[fluid delta]

Point is, you can do Top 10 if you do some basic stuff and if you've done the event a few times already (and have that bonus)

Like, I can get it anytime I bother to, it's not hard if you already have some badges from that event and don't start on Day 1, and go into the Event frequently. And have the 4x ad boost, ofc

[cloud creek]

have everything but starting on day 1 : P

[fluid delta]

If you start very soon after it starts, that's usually a bad idea.. 1: you compete with other keeners, and 2: you have to keep up the activity all through the 4 days. Much less hassle to start late, and get the better result 🙂

[cloud creek]

idk when to start because idk how long it will take me to finish the events always.

[fluid delta]

It should take less than 6 hours

[upper ivy]

plot twist, all the active players know this trick and wait to join until event almost over making the start of event easier

[fluid delta]

they do but there aren't enough that do to make a difference.. sure, you might not get #1 in your Div, but you don't need to

[upper ivy]

only need top 10 and I swear I read something somewhere that only 15 "real" people get put into each division

idk why I put real in quotes lol

like 15 actual people and then 485 bots

[fluid delta]

No, the "15 real people" I'm sure is fake. Each Div is 1000 people, and a new Div opens when it is filled up

[cloud creek]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-conspiracy-gif-19179336

[fluid delta]

I guess I can't say for sure that there aren't official bots, but at the same time, i would be surprised. Perhaps ask about that at the stream tomorrow?

[cloud creek]

does stream mean new codes

[fluid delta]

no idea

[cloud creek]

damn you gotta reboot like 500 times to make any progress with amphibians now

[upper ivy]

yeah, it looks like I get better returns just rebooting a lot lol

[cloud creek]

so much for the idle game

[fluid delta]

Reboot a lot, yeah, it is WAY WAY better than anything else.

[upper ivy]

Which I guess makes sense from a design standpoint.
Can I progress idle? yeah
Can I progress a little faster if I play? yeah

[cloud creek]

i cap out at a certain point of idling it seems

idk who kept telling me it would get better the longer i wait

istg it was one of the devs

that is so not the case

like from reboot i got up to 400 metabits within 15 minutes of gameplay, fast forward to today 24 hours later and i managed to get to a whopping 500

https://tenor.com/view/cory-x-kenshin-dissapointed-stare-headphone-gif-5251760277545263250

[fluid delta]

a little? A ton! Like.. 5 minutes will give me 1x of metabits, 10 hours asleep then coming back to the game will give me maybe 1.7x metabits. It's that bad.

[cloud creek]

i have almost every upgrade i can buy with darwinium like

auegh

[fluid delta]

oh? you spent the 5k or whatever?

[upper ivy]

I just like clicky clicky number go up braindead gameplay

[cloud creek]

only a few hundred, i bought the starter cpu and stuff like that, i maxed out beyond and halfway done mesozoic valley prestiges so those side sim upgrades are going

[upper ivy]

just low-stakes zero stress clicky buttons after a less than fantastic day at work lmao

[fluid delta]

Primordial will give you immensely more, but you need to get a certain chain of nodes in reality engine to make that happen

[cloud creek]

i am getting so sick of buying every thing and every upgrade over and over and over in rapid succession

[fluid delta]

yes, i am sick of rebooting too

they do need to make changes in that

[upper ivy]

I want to say a thing that idk if I can or should say

[cloud creek]

so i can buy 5 booster upgrades that will give me a 0.05% upgrade to the speed of amino acids or some shit lol

for quadrillions of metabits

[upper ivy]

you ever played cookie clicker? and you were like man....I sure do have to click this single button over and over a bunch of times.
I wish there were an easier way to click this cookie

[cloud creek]

my friend did

this doesn't really feel like a clicker

i don't care about all the clicking upgrades

[fluid delta]

No.. there's a thing that will multiply what a couple of very early critters give you by over 1 Billion x

[cloud creek]

are you referring to primordial power

[fluid delta]

yes i am

[cloud creek]

potentially

its at 800k times rn

oh goodie time to do another reboot

[fluid delta]

oh ok, you are getting it done. good. you really only see the benefit at midway in Primordial Power VII

[cloud creek]

i guess its almost good

slightly worse than neoaves at the moment

[fluid delta]

the doublings that PP VII gives you really zoom up fast

[upper ivy]

I feel like I'm decently far into the game based on how much of this tree I have filled out lol

unless it just keeps getting bigger and you can't see all the upgrades

[fluid delta]

Idk how big it gets.. since you can't see nodes until you finish the previous one, even though you know if there are nodes ahead

[cloud creek]

great heavens i keep having to switch between normal and scientific

because some of these numbers i do not fucking understand at all lol

but quadrillion and quintillion is easier for me

[fluid delta]

just use Custom.

[cloud creek]

what is that

i mean i see it

but what does it meaaan

[fluid delta]

it uses prefixes that are every 1000. So K (1000s), M (millions), B (billions), T (trillions), then it switches to letters, so AA, BB, CC etc.

each one is 1000 more than the last one. Easy to compare bc ofc you know your alphabet 🙂

[cloud creek]

i see

soo D

[fluid delta]

and it's always numbers like 1.23GG or 9.45JJJ

(except for Googol, which is kindof wedged in there, bc why not, but mostly you never see that)

[bleak canopy]

what the hell

[upper ivy]

I use scientific
e100 > e99
number go up

[fluid delta]

Ignore it. It's the theme of the event

[cloud creek]

thank you sepheria

[fluid delta]

yw!

[bleak canopy]

but i thought it was a mistake :)

[upper ivy]

Beyond is so much harder lol

[fluid delta]

Yes, but scientific in this game is less obvious bc it doesn't stick to x.xx number format, so you get things like 45.27E30 and 1.67E32.. at a glance you might think that the first number is larger, but ofc it isn't

[upper ivy]

my pitiful beyond bonus lmao

[fluid delta]

heh I like Beyond. I like Meso, but the Meso Prestige is almost as boring as reboots in Primary now

[upper ivy]

I just know I have to keep doing them b/c it unlocks more animals lmao

Next up on my capture list

[cloud creek]

aueeghh

i've been after him for days

[fluid delta]

heh

[upper ivy]

who? newt?
Are we at the same spot? lmao

[cloud creek]

probably

[upper ivy]

I'm RL58? What you at?

[loud loom]

Who's telling him of 550 meso ranks

Sigh

<@&535129309648781332>

[upper ivy]

.....I honestly can't tell if trolling or not.
I actually thought I was doing aight at meso 30 lmao

[fluid delta]

<@&535129309648781332> spammer

[loud loom]

You can prestige 10 times

[upper ivy]

prestige....that....doesn't sound like a thing I have encountered yet

[loud loom]

At 50 meso ranks

[fluid delta]

It used to give a benefit in Reality Engine. It no longer does with the update, but that might be a bug

[upper ivy]

holy moly. yeah, I got a ways to go lmao

I literally was over here thinking I'm in the end-game and I've barely scratched the surface of end-game lmao

[fluid delta]

heh yes you have a ways to go

[woven agate]

They need to revamp mesozoic bro

[fluid delta]

.. but if Meso Prestige ends up not counting in Reality Engine (ie: if it is NOT a bug) then don't bother doing it. it is very tedious

[woven agate]

I am not doing 10 rebirths or whatever

[upper ivy]

I mean, I know there is a bonus from beyond b/c I remember one of the nodes saying that it gives a bonus based on beyond level....but can't remember for meso.
There's a ton of nodes to look through

[fluid delta]

There is one for Meso, but with the update, it only counts 50.. so, not Prestige. Beyond has one, but there's only 28 so far (will be 30 later next year). Events there is no limit.

If they do end up counting Prestige, then it'll be worth doing it, since your bonus for that node will be 11x larger

[loud loom]

Which is why I'm asking why ANYONE sane would waste countless hours in meso... if it atleast unlocked new upgrades/generators

[cloud creek]

i like numbers

when they're bigger i am happier

thats what she said

[dreamy echo]

out of context 😭

we NEED an ooc thread

so many things to post

[loud loom]

What's ooc

[dreamy echo]

out of context

[loud loom]

Just saying

[dreamy echo]

example post from another server (censored name, pfp, and tag for anonymity)

[loud loom]

Undertale and deltarune server?

[dreamy echo]

yep

[loud loom]

Just by the role

[dreamy echo]

oh you're in runder too

[strange lark]

Oh hell yes

[lilac compass]

what does it mean when your system is “compromised”

[dreamy echo]

that doesn't sound good

[lilac compass]

i came back to the game after a year and i got compromised

[dreamy echo]

ohh

that's the anticheat

[lilac compass]

what’s does it do

[dreamy echo]

if you didn't change the date and time for more currency, id contact devs to fix that

can someone remind me how to do that

[lilac compass]

but what does the compromising do

like how does it affect gameplay?

[dreamy echo]

os it just dm aditya or email computerlunch… the email?

[lilac compass]

alright i know but like

[dreamy echo]

cant be precise but negatively

[lilac compass]

what does compromising do to ur simulation

oh

negatively as in?

[dreamy echo]

i dont remember exact details

[lilac compass]

how do you find these details of compromising

[dreamy echo]

but you get sent to div 666 in events

[lilac compass]

what’s div 666

[dreamy echo]

which is the cheaters division

[lilac compass]

oh

that’s not that bad?

[dreamy echo]

basically, you aren't winning there unless you're a hardcore exploiter

there's other things too iirc but not much

[lilac compass]

so i’m cooked in events

[dreamy echo]

i would get it fixed if possible

[lilac compass]

how should i contact

computer lunch

[dreamy echo]

probably these but you should ask someone else to confirm first

because i dont remember very well

[amber canyon]

Have you found the Angler Fish in the Ocean Garden. Now that's lonely ☹️

Well. Looks like to progress at RL 63 / Primordial Power VII I'd have to start reboot spamming. The x30 shooting star and nanobots strat has run out of effectiveness. Damn.

[woeful sedge]

Hi, why can't I go further up on the singularity path?

[amber canyon]

Androids have been taken away. The Devs have plans for them.

[woeful sedge]

Aah okay

[amber canyon]

And the rest of that branch.

[amber canyon]

Didn't see you get an answer but this is what I can see. There's a bug report already in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1010249890414202880 - key Dev response is #1440352715812114484 message

[desert siren]

I found this bug

[signal tendon]

Did they remove the cyborg and humanoid Colonist?

[strange lark]

Yes

[signal tendon]

Is it normal that the game crashes sometimes (on iPad)

[strange lark]

Probably not

[signal tendon]

Because yesterday as an example it crashed like 10 times, where it randomly just closed itself

[woven agate]

You're cooked btw

I would restart your ipad itself

[amber canyon]

Add your info to this bug report https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1440348291492610119

[woven agate]

Try see if that works

[woven agate]

Tbh it sounds more like a hardware issue than a real bug, so far atleast

[signal tendon]

But it started after update -_-

[amber canyon]

Not if lots of us are having the same problem.

[signal tendon]

And it's only the game

[woven agate]

Hm

[amber canyon]

Beta testers have an update to try fix the crashing stuff - #🧾-beta-patch-notes message

[amber canyon]

Same for me. Sometimes it just shuts itself down, sometimes it freezes, sometimes it gives me the Google play message.

I do wonder what it was they added between beta and production to cause all these bugs. Or why the beta testers weren't seeing / reporting them.

Obvs a while ago, but I did Alpha testing and didn't see any of these bugs.

[signal tendon]

Btw how do you have those Icons next to your name?

[amber canyon]

Icons?

[signal tendon]

Like ur paleontologist expert

*legend

[amber canyon]

Oh. Roles.

Share relevant screenshots in the Share Your Prestige channel.

[signal tendon]

Ok, like what? What are important?

I should have almost everything

I only need the last Mesozoic valley and beyond achievement, and the amphibia achievements

[amber canyon]

#💬-cells-chat message

[signal tendon]

And last badge from AI Event

Ok

Thx

[amber canyon]

Good luck next time!

[signal tendon]

I'ma try to get it this time

[amber canyon]

Oops. I forgot it was the current event. Good luck this time then.

[signal tendon]

Thx

[amber canyon]

Advice if you want it #💬-cells-chat message

[signal tendon]

It crashed again -_-

But I got first badge already

[cloud creek]

boo

[signal tendon]

...

[scarlet sand]

Oh my fing god,in order to like finish all the upgrades in darwinium, you'll need 30×4+930×4=3840,ohhh my fing god, that's ridiculously much

I wish I didn't wadte the darwinium for the black hole and diamond geode and all those kind of stuff...

[amber canyon]

Oh? I calculated 4470 for all the new stuff.

Yeah ... It's a lot. I need another ... 950?

[amber canyon]

Have you used /codes in the Semblance channel?

[silent inlet]

If you add the 2 boosters that aren't there and that'll most likely cost 300 each you get the 5000 I already mentioned

[amber canyon]

Possibly. I'm only counting the new stuff though, not future stuff 🙂.

[silent inlet]

Yeah but yk it's the last 2 of the panel and it says coming soon so...

[amber canyon]

It'd be v easy for 'coming soon' to sit there for ages. I think 400 each is more likely as they've been sorta doubling. And ofc there are a lot more lettters in the alphabet...

Might even be 500 each.

[willow spire]

Let me guess last one is Omega

[honest flame]

So many blank bubbles

Perhaps an upgrade in the future?

[willow spire]

Yeah it's gonna be an upgrade, most likely a level locked upgrade, what's strange is the 2 big bubbles

[amber canyon]

At least some of the blank bubbles were nodes that previously existed. I guess will be part of future updates too.

[amber canyon]

I think these will be (almost) complete new branches.

[primal osprey]

How tf 64 lvl

[frank idol]

I just ran out of things that can help speed things up (✿^‿^)

[honest flame]

this guy’s 156

[primal osprey]

Z

[amber canyon]

It'll be a save that they've ported over from alpha/beta testing (and they will have taken advantage of game-breaking bugs during testing).

They've posted things like this a few times and iirc denied that this is the case.

[rain rain]

completely balanced

[amber canyon]

For example, ||during alpha testing there was a bug that allowed basically infinite Darwinium. And during beta there was a bug that increased your earning rate by x100 every time you logged on. There was also some really unbalanced stuff that's been balanced since.||

[frank idol]

it's not error

[hoary juniper]

Damn my event data all gone...

I almost finished

[cloud creek]

hi

[hoary juniper]

I hate Google play

I am angry 😡

[proper lotus]

man I'm 1 mosasaurus away from prestigeing and i can't buy it-

[amber canyon]

Sure. #💬-cells-chat message

[frank idol]

I played the beta a lot and for a long time to get to level 156

[amber canyon]

Any local backups on any devices? Or did you use the in game save manager cross platform save manager?

[amber canyon]

I believe you. But #💬-cells-chat message

There is no point in comparing people who are using files from alpha/beta with normal players.

[hoary juniper]

Yes but fews hours ago I didn't backup

[clear crow]

OMG. IM A HAPPY MAN NOW 🥳 🎉

MY WISHES WERE GRANTED. LETS GOOOOO

#💡-suggestions message

All’s missing for me is the Phase 2 Beyond songs :3

||Fomalhaut/Awohali/Janssen|| Rank Up is a perfect ringtone personally XD

And maybe the rest of the explore event songs ? Hoping they have copyright permission

[hoary juniper]

I never met something like this before

[hoary juniper]

I can't remove the Google play backup

WTF

First time happened to me

[lament silo]

Can't wait for extinction event to begin I love it

Anyways

What exactly is the "neutrino expansion" achievment for?

[silent inlet]

Finish all the missions before going prestige would be my advise

[proper lotus]

too late I'm already at extinction 8 again

[silent inlet]

Yeah but you should complete all of them each time

[proper lotus]

I mostly do

[silent inlet]

Maybe not the one who need absurd amount of money but buy all dinos, geodes bring darwinium which is pretty useful

[azure turtle]

It's for those that finished the previous reality engine

[rain rain]

is there any reason to keep geodes if you are at 50/10?

[silent inlet]

Wdym 50/10 ?

Oh

No I don't think so

I opened all of them

[lament silo]

I didn't but I got it

I didn't get the last thing

Cold War reference is CELLS

[azure turtle]

Ah, yeah, I believe devs mentioned those that had the unlocked the 1 Qa upgrade also got this achievement

[lament silo]

Hell yeah

[hardy musk]

Oh, that would explain why I got it

[shrewd radish]

i just came back after reality reboot update
after left the game for quite a while

my stat say total speed multiplier is 1020x

after reset and upgrade some why do it drop to 960x?

is this intended?

i just click whatever the game recommended tbh

also i already research lv 46 and when comeback i just receive 2 research point for upgrade

is that intended?

[gleaming dragon]

the new effects tickle my brain

[last nova]

Is 62 max level research or?

Since I don't see any nodes to be unlocked after 62

[amber canyon]

For no good reason, I have been narrowing down Eternity. (or how long is a very long time).

[amber canyon]

Nothing more in the primary tree to unlock atm based on reports from reputable players up to level 65. There is stuff in the Reality Engine tree that they haven't bought yet, so they don't know if there's anything beyond those (yet).

[amber canyon]

Some (8) nodes (with Time in the title) get more powerful the longer it's been since a reboot.

[spring dome]

based on this im guessing 100 years

though idk if its 36500 days or 36524 days

[amber canyon]

LMAO I was contemplating that but decided I didn't need to know that exactly.

[spring dome]

i see xd

[willow spire]

Hmmm

Should I buy the 32,77 Qa Modern Maestry III (8/10 but 9/10 when I upgrade) or the 50,00 Qa neutrinos expansion?

A x65.546 efficiency to a x262.144 efficiency my modern civilization or x5 speed in simulation

[amber canyon]

If your game is anything like mine (in the stats):
Modern isn't generating very much at all, so not worth prioritising.
Neutrino Expansion will speed your sim up by X5.

So NE. Although ideas are in shorter supply than entropy.

[silent inlet]

If you're speaking french why don't we see you in #🇫🇷-français ?

[amber canyon]

I'm not (although I can. Ish). I just saw the French 'une éternité' posted, and liked it.

[willow spire]

Oh wait exploration era is classified as ancient I'm going for the x5 speed

[kindred dune]

I've been playing the reality reboot for a while now and I must ask why am I so rich and stuff so expensive all of a sudden

[silent inlet]

Where you from ?

[kindred dune]

Like I used to barely get 12 metabits

[amber canyon]

Less than 5h of free infinity pass left 😭.

[amber canyon]

Why don't I have a UK flag? ☹️

Ahem.

Found it.

[silent inlet]

Nooooo don't speak about bad things pls...

[amber canyon]

If you want to grind... Or benefit in the event It's your last chance...

[rain rain]

protip: spend your chips

[dense ginkgo]

yo

[silent inlet]

Yeah, but I don't wanna join too soon or else the division id will be too high lol

[silent inlet]

Wassup

[woeful sedge]

Sooo when do you level up?

[loud loom]

I think it will say it when the time is >1 year

[willow spire]

It says for me 32941 days

[loud loom]

Yeah

It says for 1092 days

[loud loom]

Inflation 😕

"Balancing"

[silent inlet]

Don't hesitate to reboot a lot

[shrewd rampart]

chat wth is argo navis

[kindred dune]

Oh wait that actually sucks 😔

Now you just have to go for an hour and you can afford anything you want

[amber canyon]

A group of ||constellations||.

[shrewd rampart]

That's.... wow

[loud loom]

Can I have some stars

[shrewd rampart]

Does that give additional bonuses?

[amber canyon]

Beyond the achievement? Nope.

[woeful sedge]

Can anyone give me some advice on what I'm doing right and wrong? Perhaps where I should be at with my progress in beyond and dinosaur world?

[shrewd rampart]

Ugh, how useless

[loud loom]

Oh you have a log way

[shrewd rampart]

You're doing fine, tbh

[amber canyon]

I mean all of those things are useless ...

[shrewd rampart]

...Not wrong

[woeful sedge]

Believe me I'm mashing buttons

If there is strategy to this game I have none

[loud loom]

It's an incremental game

There's no strategy

Just progress

[woeful sedge]

Bet, thank you

[loud loom]

Unless

[shrewd rampart]

What should I do with 24 DWs lol

I bought the modules and augmentations already

[amber canyon]

It looks fine?

Just keep popping to each sim occasionally and keep them going.

You can see the multipliers your Meso and Beyond give to your Entropy/Metabits and Ideas/Knowledge to the left of the Reality Engine brain.

[willow spire]

The strategy is to click anything that has a green/blue color on it

[amber canyon]

For Events (Explorations), this is my advice. #💬-cells-chat message

[scarlet sand]

Umm, I've bought all stuff with yhe remaining like about 600 ive saved,and only remaining is the upgrade in the darwinium page

[woeful sedge]

Were ||human martians|| removed or just really hard to reach after the update.?

[woven agate]

Removed

[woeful sedge]

Thank you

[silent inlet]

You should farm the dino valley it could give you a real good boost

[woven agate]

No point in it

[tall mirage]

Lol I only got 1.5 hrs remaining

[willow spire]

And for explorations invest all in your generators last minute to snatch some spots.

[woven agate]

It was a worthless upgrade anyways, and to be honest was already covered by the singularity upgrade

[willow spire]

I noticed it being removed but really didn't care that much

[shrewd rampart]

@/dev can you guys extend the free ad pass to like, idk, 3 years?

[woeful sedge]

Naaaw I really liked it

[amber canyon]

Lots of things been removed. But yeah, the circled ones have gone. The Devs said they had plans to improve them and rebalance and bring back at some point.

[silent inlet]

I mean they really were being useless

[woeful sedge]

I liked them story wise? Aesthetic wise?

[amber canyon]

I need 100 years! #💬-cells-chat message 😭

[woeful sedge]

Concept wise

[silent inlet]

Which level are you at ?

[shrewd rampart]

Ugh... I'm bored

[willow spire]

This is a scam, it says infinity pass but it isn't infinite

[fluid delta]

Welcome to my world.. since tuesday, anyway 🙂

[woeful sedge]

Omg wait they removed ||mushrooms||??

[amber canyon]

I've been shooting star and nanobots grinding. I hate rebooting and re-buying the tech tree ...

[silent inlet]

So we're at the same point

[shrewd rampart]

I love rebooting...

[silent inlet]

I think yesterday I rebooted 5 times in an hour lmao

[fluid delta]

it happens rarely on my ipad. memory leak? idk

[fluid delta]

They are lying ofc. And flexing. It’s stupid.

[silent inlet]

Those reboots are a good opportunity to try the singularity below 60s

[honest flame]

When will i unlock all the constellations in beyond?

[cold vigil]

how yall moving at this event

[honest flame]

my only missing secret achievements are shark week and that

[scarlet sand]

No,not all

[silent inlet]

Didn't join I'll wait until tonight or tomorrow morning I think

[scarlet sand]

But the ship one

[cold vigil]

why wait

[silent inlet]

For an easier division

[scarlet sand]

Btw,abt 10 weeks I guess

[cold vigil]

proud megalodon haver

[amber canyon]

They're not even lying well. At the end of their clip was this ...

[silent inlet]

Lmao

Self reported

[scarlet sand]

Wait

How do you get thar

In beta

Or like real

[silent inlet]

In beta

[honest flame]

In what episode, I meant

[silent inlet]

You can restart from scratch and it gives you this

[scarlet sand]

Wdym by what episode

[silent inlet]

About 25 or 26 I'd say

[scarlet sand]

I'm at 28

[silent inlet]

I think he meant in which episode you can buy all of them

[amber canyon]

Not in normal.

[silent inlet]

.

But I should've said it in the same message for more clarity indeed

[scarlet sand]

And for me I guess in order to get all,you need to login everyday, basic requirement,and get all the like from astronomy mission and nursery,get all of them,and round them all up,abt 2 constellation per day

[amber canyon]

I'm wondering if they'll go down the route of deleting their previous messages with evidence of them being in alpha/beta and continuing to attempt to flex.

(not that I care that much)

[scarlet sand]

The devs are like that?!💀

[amber canyon]

The KMAX-Vietnam person.

[fluid delta]

It might be worth reporting them for posting beta content in here

[silent inlet]

I honestly don't think it'd be useful

[scarlet sand]

Me too

[fluid delta]

Yeah.. I guess. But they are being annoying about it

[amber canyon]

Probably not. They're just annoying.

[scarlet sand]

They had already be controlled by money these times

Not the same anymore ;

[fluid delta]

?

[scarlet sand]

Like

The you know

F2p players are becoming harder and herder to play in this game

[fluid delta]

oh, you mean the Cells game itself?

[scarlet sand]

Yep

[honest flame]

How many zeroes is a googol again

[willow spire]

100 I think

[fluid delta]

You can do f2p here just fine, it will take you much longer is all

[scarlet sand]

We DO NOT need to give soo much to max out the upgrades broo😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

[fluid delta]

100

[honest flame]

all that and i cant reach 250 reptiles

[scarlet sand]

But it's ridiculously long

Not the same as b4

[silent inlet]

10^100

[scarlet sand]

We can get the neutrino expansion in like at most a year

[amber canyon]

I think it's still okay.

The devs did say they want to give late/end game players stuff to do (as lots of us were just sat here doing nothing). So makes sense there's hard (time-consuming) stuff. But it isn't game-breaking as far as I can see.

[scarlet sand]

But I think we can't even max out all in 10 yrs😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

[scarlet sand]

Yeah

[fluid delta]

You can get even the hardest nodes in days IF you are willing to spam reboots fast

[amber canyon]

In any Idle incremental game you will always hit a wall. Because exponential growth 🤷.

[loud loom]

3.5 hours left

[silent inlet]

Yeah the game just turned much more active than it was before

[fluid delta]

… that’s a fate worse than Meso Prestige, though 🙂

[honest flame]

UNTIL WHAT

[loud loom]

Next livestream

[scarlet sand]

It's really interesting for c2s that in the late stage have a more scarce resources,like the ordinary trend is that u can get more the better or the higher you are at the game

[fluid delta]

active but not in a fun way, it’s an incredibly tedious way

[scarlet sand]

Exactly

To repetitive

[silent inlet]

Idk I think it's better than the game being 100% passive in the late game

[fluid delta]

Which just means soon I will ignore RE and Primary and just do Events + new Beyond when they appear

[cold vigil]

mr ant tennas tv time

events are fun ngl

[silent inlet]

Which was what you were doing before since metabits were just 100% passive in the late game

[cold vigil]

even if they repeat

[honest flame]

I think i’m sick.

I have a horrible headache

[fluid delta]

I don’t. Now it’s just frustrating. They need to add a feature to mitigate the need for a ton of tapping

[cold vigil]

i like reading info from the upgrades

[silent inlet]

So in the end they just brought back some interest in the late game of primary

[amber canyon]

If I had to name it, Ihink it's like a Poisson distribution. And by it I mean 'stuff happening' in game.

[fluid delta]

Bad Hangover?

[silent inlet]

Yeah that part can be improved indeed

[amber canyon]

Hopefully that the Devs are planning monthly updates will give us stuff to do. Although not all those will be primary/RE ofc.

[cold vigil]

still this update is sick

although the glitch upgrades dont really help? lol

like i rank up and unlock an upgrade which doesnt help me at all

boosts some forgotten animal which still does nothing

[spring dome]

the stone age one at 58 or 59 helps but thats it tbh

[fluid delta]

3 obvious approaches:
1: Make/change/add nodes in RE to make going offline better than spamming reboots.
2: Autoclicker inside game so that you can have it do all the things in a reboot
3 (bad): Greatly nerf reboot rewards or otherwise filter so that you can’t do them often

[scarlet sand]

Btw,is the dev really doing anything???I can't like actually see what they implanted like the players' suggestion,those are like just decorations hanging there doing nothing but try to pretend they are doing smth

[scarlet sand]

You can use like other auto clicker

[untold lily]

"autoclicker app for games" from Huau apps is the best imo

[scarlet sand]

If really gonna make I mean,why don't just add a feature where you can literally just click a button and boom,all done,just wait for the generator,for the new grinding

[silent inlet]

To me what you're saying is to make it passive again and the devs obviously trued to make smth mlre active so the 1st point is pointless, 2 you already have autoclickers with the bots but maybe they could improve it indeed, and the 3rd point goes back to the 1st

[cold vigil]

do yall have this?

[scarlet sand]

You can put the clickers at the upgrades button

[willow spire]

Yes

[scarlet sand]

And it'll do all stuff for you

[silent inlet]

Yeah but I do find they are kinda ineffective so maybe they could make it a bit more efficient

[untold lily]

No, thank you for supporting a game I and others like so the people who cant/ dont want to support dont have to💪

[sly basin]

yes

[untold lily]

Btw, if people think the gameplay itself has become boring, dm me for some tips

[scarlet sand]

Actually,I don't even think the dev team need to do any new stuff,cuz, almost all player of this game is ogs💀,so just improve the game play experience is sooo good,soo much better than those stuff,just done all the suggestions by players,not much I think,just,like 300 I guess?but this update is definitely much more work than that,and they can upgrade whenever time,like even if just 10 suggestions done,just send it out and,yeah

[amber canyon]

I think they've done a lot. For starters they've completely rebuilt the game under the hood to allow for future development.

Re player suggestions, I can see why they wouldn't prioritise most of them.

Having said that. I think the RE is too complex now.

[scarlet sand]

Yeah,yeah,yeah,

Money and the power,power and the money~

Money,is all they want

[fluid delta]

1: There are already node(s) in RE that make the reward the better you play, this would just considerably increase the strength of the node. You would still have the option of frequent reboots, this would not take that away. You don’t even have to make it better, make it even 75% as good as frequent spamming, bc rn doing spamming is literally 1000x better. It’s crazy.
2: Autoclickers aren’t on iOS/iPadOS and so aren’t an option… which is unfair so why not add that to the game to give parity with Android, Steam, Web.
3: I don’t like 3, but I could see them doing it. The status quo I really don’t think is intentional

[silent inlet]

Idk why you'd need an autoclicker to make a game funny

[untold lily]

So you can skip some repetitive parts

[scarlet sand]

Efficiency

[scarlet sand]

Yep

[fluid delta]

What they said. Spamming reboots gets literally painful, I can only tap so much. and it is boring AF. Yet, you have to, to progress

[hoary juniper]

Wait what?
Again?
Replaced my save....

[untold lily]

I doubt that tho, there are still ways to circumvent paying

[hoary juniper]

Google play auto save is useless...

I want to save, didn't save.
I don't want to save, save it...

[fluid delta]

So I have heard. Use the Save Manager within Cells itself

[hoary juniper]

I am already

But I need to every time before leave the game

[cold vigil]

what part of the game is considered lategame

[fluid delta]

Why need to?

[amber canyon]

See, my view is that when the next update comes in, that next bit (that is now a huge mountain) will become a small foothill.

Seriously. There is always going to be a point in any idle incremental game where progress slows. If you had an in game autoclicker, you'd just hit the wall for that instead.

[untold lily]

Definitely true

[hoary juniper]

2 hours ago I didn't save, and i open again the date not the should be...

[cold vigil]

is itvjust me or youre writing an endline whenever youre sending a message

cause like

[fluid delta]

Didn’t they say at one point that the game is designed with an autoclicker in mind?

[hoary juniper]

It's about 4 hours ago

[untold lily]

But the advantage is, is that you can play and enjoy more content

[amber canyon]

Atm RL 62? When you've unlocked everything in primary?

[fluid delta]

That’s odd. Maybe that’s your Android phone?

[untold lily]

What do you mean?

I just click the send button?

[cold vigil]

game recommending me an actually useless upgrade

[amber canyon]

I remember them saying auto-clickers were allowed (and recommended for players with r.g. RSI). Don't recall them ever saying it was designed to be auto-clicked.

[fluid delta]

I think it is just you/your device. Looks normal to me

[untold lily]

Nah, it will be literally the most usefull upgrade when late game

[fluid delta]

it’s not useless. The end of that chain gives you massive benefit

[untold lily]

Prokaryotic cell will get a massive boost

[amber canyon]

PP will apparently become useful later. But atm is 100% useless.

[fluid delta]

perhaps I misremember then

[nimble plover]

hi players. In new to the cells discord channel but i had played this game for 1 year

[fluid delta]

midway in PP VII is when it becomes amazing

[untold lily]

Welcome! Any questions about the game?

[amber canyon]

This?

[cold vigil]

wtf first game i see that encourages autoclicker

[amber canyon]

Yup. Still useless till then. And it's been recommending it to me consistently for ages even though at this point it's useless.

[untold lily]

It does annoy me tho that if you set wait time between macro inputs to 10ms, the game registers like only half of them

[hoary juniper]

Yes..

Btw i just found a way to turn off

Finally

[clever sierra]

Which channel was the new roadmap in?

[amber canyon]

#📢-announcements message

[nimble plover]

@clever sierra its in the #💡-suggestions mabye

[woven agate]

Hm, Maybe

[clever sierra]

Thanks

[clever sierra]

I see

[fluid delta]

Ah. Good. Hmm.. I wonder if a keyboard with a built in macro might work for iPad. Hmm.. I technically have one

… I think

[amber canyon]

Also, there is a legit record-to-Singularity with autoclicker. (Also one with TAS)

Wonder if it will beaten now.

[shrewd radish]

any idea how to achieve singularity under 2 min?

[fluid delta]

tap fast all the nodes

which you can do easy on the screen that lists them

[amber canyon]

Turn off sorting. Turn on buy max.

Spam buy upgrades. Keep an eye on the generator tabs. When number goes up, hop over and buy the new generator, then back to spam buying upgrades.

Use nanobots if you want.

[spring dome]

use the menu and use buy max/round
generally you should be able to unlock the next generator once you buy all the upgrades from x1 to x2, with one of the modern ages being the exception that goes up to x2.3

[shrewd radish]

guess i need better sim stat then
there still flickering due to not enough entropy

[spring dome]

also be sure to stay on the entropy tree until you get human

[fluid delta]

flickering?

[spring dome]

since you need it for neolithic

[shrewd radish]

basically need to wait a 1 or 2 sec for it to accumulated enough entropy

and also lag

somehow

[dusk helm]

Infinite pass will end in 13 minutes😱