💬-cells-chat

[tall mirage]

If that does happen, then yea worth it

[fluid delta]

Seriously, upgrading either with BH is a waste IMO.. but you do you

[weak tulip]

for sure, i'm just waiting.

[tall mirage]

lol cost for me is double that coz my gold cards are only lvl 2

[weak tulip]

they are way overpowered already

[tall mirage]

and my galaxy silver is only at 1

For me quasar at 5 > messier at 6

quasar gives me 800 Ocqag/s and messier only ~400

[weak tulip]

oh messier is my powerhouse

[fluid delta]

my gold are 2, 2, and 1 only.

[tall mirage]

and the galaxy silver one?

[tall mirage]

Crazy 2,2,1 is lesser than mine

[fluid delta]

I don't see it, so I probably don't have it. If so, I never needed it

[tall mirage]

Damn

[fluid delta]

yeah, but since I hardly ever spend Black Holes... no surprise

[weak tulip]

well i sure did heh

[tall mirage]

Yea no wonder

[fluid delta]

Oops nvm, was looking at Series 1. MY BAD

[tall mirage]

Yea 3, 3, 3 is 4x mine as I have 2,2,3

[fluid delta]

Ok.. what my Series 2 cards are:
Gold: 4,4,4. Silver Galaxy is 4 as well. (the other 2 silvers are 5)

[tall mirage]

Yea that makes sense atleast

Other silvers don't matter at 28 so yea

[fluid delta]

I think I used some Black Holes right after I completed Beyond 28, bc I knew there would be plenty of time to get more before 29

[tall mirage]

which is why I wanna open some till I reach 3 in all gold atleast and 2/3 in galaxy

[fluid delta]

Yeah.. ok.. maybe it makes sense but at the same time, if you save the black holes, then when you open them for 29, you'll also have a chance to improve whatever golds and silvers they add for that.. which will matter much more, right?

[tall mirage]

They won't add any more golds for sure

[fluid delta]

.. unless they do a Series 3

Which they could

[tall mirage]

That would only be after B30

[fluid delta]

And I wish they would

But there won't be any "after B30"

[weak tulip]

whats your production, Seph?

[tall mirage]

True, but it would break the current system if there's a series 3 just for B29/30

[fluid delta]

1.06UUU/sec, which is 1.06E153/sec

[weak tulip]

oof

[tall mirage]

Lmfaoo, I'm exactly 1.06E150

[weak tulip]

yeah seph has x1000 production lol

[fluid delta]

Eh, idk, it's not like there really is a system to break, and they already deviated with the research for series 2 already

[weak tulip]

i'm an 3.5 E150 so a bit less difference but still, it's a fraction

[fluid delta]

true

[weak tulip]

seph you have messier on 7?

[tall mirage]

Kf is at E156 lol

[weak tulip]

that's pretty crazy

[fluid delta]

Yep. KF is way ahead of me.. but it doesn't matter, his cards are higher than mine too, which just means he'll complete 29 a little (but not a lot) faster

[tall mirage]

That's there, but a new series for only 2 stages seems unlikely I'd sa

[fluid delta]

yes it's at 7

[weak tulip]

yeah i figured

[fluid delta]

quasar is only 6 though

[weak tulip]

makes sense

[tall mirage]

You'd be higher than him if u opened up ur black holes lol

[weak tulip]

messier also bigger producer for you?

[fluid delta]

oh I know.. but like, no point!

[tall mirage]

galaxy silver helps a lot for messier lol

[weak tulip]

yeah it's just wasted BHs really

yeah also i have all constellations for it

[fluid delta]

ah ok THAT explains why the two are so close!!

I was wondering

Messier is about 2/3 of my income, Quasar is the other 1/3, but they will be about equal once I get Quasar to the same 7 that Messier is

... or even higher. not sure.

[weak tulip]

yeah for me it's 85/15

[tall mirage]

True, but one could argue that opening them at 29/30 will only help u max 30 faster and then poof
might as well get some progression in stages

[tall mirage]

Reversed for me right now only because my galaxy silver is at 1

[fluid delta]

I guess maybe it comes down to how often you get Top 10 and thus BHs.. if you get 2 per week, then after you have a bunch saved up for 29, then sure, why not open up those 2/week?

[tall mirage]

Yea to make the game feel a little less monotonous after a certain point

Finally got 2 fragments from a white dwarf after ages lmaoo

[weak tulip]

chance maybe like 1% or so

they are really rare in white dwarfs

but you get 6-8 a day if you open them all in time

maybe even more

mhmm some ppl are grinding

[fluid delta]

heh yeah i didn't bother this time

[weak tulip]

i was #2 before i went to bed yesterday and woke up as #3

thought i lose more positions overnight but it's actually now that i am losing some heh

[zenith smelt]

Did they make events easier?

I swear a few years back I never made it past like 3/10 objectives, but I made 10/10 easily

[fluid delta]

They revamped the rewards. What used to be Top 1,2,3 are now Top 10, 25, 100 and so are actually worth competing for.. but otherwise, no, they aren't easier as far as I've noticed?... but, I've only been playing for a year and a half, so maybe it was before my time. Also, game dailies rewards are a thing now too

[zenith smelt]

Ah

I don't remember seeing rankings before either

[fluid delta]

yeah idk I avoided the reality engine node that gave access to that until, like, 6 months ago or smth

[zenith smelt]

I remember the natural disaster one took forever when it came out

I'd like to try that event again

[clever vault]

am in #170, how can you check those rankings/badges anyway.

[fluid delta]

click on the same icon that Jedao copied, the one with 3 bars and a #5. That’s your current ranking, if you click on it it’ll show the rewards and how much to the next tier up

[clever vault]

my browser thinks it's a picture, not a link.

[fluid delta]

I mean the equivalent in the event inside your game, not the actual icon itself.. I was just describing what it'll look like

[clever vault]

yeah that's why I said, I'm like 1400 behind (now less since I started next tier)

however I do not see who is in top 10 and their badges, you made me a bit hopefull in how to check their badges

[fluid delta]

oh! I misunderstood you, sorry. Unfortunately, they don't show that

[clever vault]

np

[fluid delta]

others have requested it too.. i hope they add it at some point

[weak tulip]

btw what's up with the #1 on the global leaderboard?

he has almost no badges

[clever vault]

how can you tell he has no badges?

[weak tulip]

i can click on his profile

thats the global leaderboard though not for the event

[clever vault]

98 meso, thought it stopped at 50? or does it mean something else?

[weak tulip]

you repeat it

[clever vault]

ahh will see that in a day or 2, just started 50

hopefully the benifits are good enough though

[weak tulip]

not really lol

[clever vault]

was already affraid about that tbh

[fluid delta]

Yeah, idk about that "98" in Meso, that doesn't actually make sense.

[weak tulip]

i thought it counts up to 550?

[fluid delta]

There's 50 meso + 10 repeats (10 prestige levels) for a total of 550.. but I don't think it shows it as a total number. I look at my entry on the global leaderboard, and it shows just as my account icon does

(50 for meso, plus a little 10 icon in a claw at top right of it, indicating prestige level)

[weak tulip]

i mean, the entire profile looks off for #1 leaderboard spot. level 3 beyond and never touched that again?

[clever vault]

and just 2 events

[fluid delta]

My guess (and it is just a guess) is that this was a bot that got nuked, hence no name (and a global id I guess, instead)

[weak tulip]

yeah... they should purge it from the leaderboard though in that case

[fluid delta]

i agree

I wouldn't be surprised if the existing entries are wiped once Reality Revamp happens soon , bc of the changes

[weak tulip]

global leaderboard only depends on primary sim?

[sinful delta]

nuclear warhead, incoming

[fluid delta]

then it could recalculate and re-add once you log in.. that would make sense

[weak tulip]

(ofc you do get buffs for primary by advancing in meso/space)

[clever vault]

does redoing meso give more buffs to prim?

[fluid delta]

prestige levels? yes, I think so

[clever vault]

why does Beyond feel so much harder than meso

[fluid delta]

well.. bc it is!

.. and it kinda should be, Beyond is way smaller

(550 vs 28, or 30 next year)

[weak tulip]

i kinda rushed through it nonetheless

i hit beyond 28 when i got meso 28 lol

[clever vault]

O_O did you ignore meso?

[sinful delta]

Likely

[fluid delta]

meso prestige levels are a slog. i really wish they would revamp that too.. it was painful

[weak tulip]

not ignore but neglected it quite a bit

[clever vault]

atm at 50/20 and doing both equally (beyond is more active screen though)

[weak tulip]

beyond is much more fun to idle in, tbh. Until you reach 28 heh

[fluid delta]

best to do all the things concurrently.. it all adds up, and you gotta wait sometimes. and don't neglect events

(and you have probably noticed the relevant Reality Engine nodes)

[clever vault]

was my current plan indeed, do all

[fluid delta]

good!

[weak tulip]

yeah i have most of them, just the last ones are pretty pricey.

i can just afford the last nanobot level now

[fluid delta]

yep. there's one node in RE that will take you a few months.. or would, if RE revamp wasn't soon, so idk from that point

[weak tulip]

nanobots are huge for events btw, if you're are active

especially with infinity pass

[clever vault]

don't have the pass

[fluid delta]

it's ok, you don't need it, though it is very nice to have for the 1st month on mobile

(it saves you from having to watch so many ads as you get through the content)

[clever vault]

just trying to adds whenever I feels it might be usefull

[fluid delta]

.. but once you are caught up and just doing events, 6 or 7 ads every 4 days is nothing

[clever vault]

that's why I am (not) watching adds during browsing/chatting on pc or watching ttv/gaming.

[fluid delta]

you're on mobile, right? I do stuff (including gaming) on PC and mostly play Cells while doing other stuff on PC.. ads might play but I ignore them 🙂

[clever vault]

trying to keep up with (max) boosts

I mix mobile/steam

but more mobile lately

[fluid delta]

i keep it to ipad, way less chance of making an unfortunate "save" mistake.. plus, ad boost on mobile is huge

[clever vault]

even if you make a online save mistake, there are 3 back-ups

[weak tulip]

with steam i never have to worry about any of this

[fluid delta]

with steam you don't get the 4x ad boost

[clever vault]

he does with the pass

[weak tulip]

i get a x2, but it's good enough

even for events

[clever vault]

all 2darwin buys are free with pass

[weak tulip]

you mean the offline bonus?

[fluid delta]

.. and you can't play in bed.. well ok you can if you have a handheld running steam

[weak tulip]

well i go to bed to sleep

[clever vault]

if you have the pass, you can keep buying free boosters

and if you bought the reality enine stuff it should go x4

[weak tulip]

and judging by events, even with no previous badges for the events i can manage top 10 on steam

so it's fine

[fluid delta]

i have been known to finish an event level in bed, then let it do it's thing overnight to add science to all the generators once i wake up, before going to the next challenge level, lol

[clever vault]

that's my only advantage, I am always awake when event ends

[weak tulip]

ohh, interesting strategy

[fluid delta]

it would be interesting to know if Steam and mobile are segregated from each other as far as divisions go

[weak tulip]

i would think not

i can't believe the playerbase on steam is large enough to fill up enough divisions

[clever vault]

can't have cross-save and sepperate rankings

[fluid delta]

i don't mean when an event ends, i mean when you finish up an event level (before going to the next challenge level)

[weak tulip]

the events end at different times though

and yeah i know what seph means... but i can't time it that way.

i usually start the event a day later after i get up

[clever vault]

it's always the same times at monday's and same time on thursday's?

[weak tulip]

so i can babysit it a bit through the first day and get me through the first level

[clever vault]

(although thurs vs mon is different)

[weak tulip]

like now i just started 3rd run through and i certainly won't finish this one before i sleep

but it got me back a place, sitting pretty safe at #4

[clever vault]

so jed, have you dont this event once before (or what was your first event)?

[weak tulip]

first time doing tea

what should i get, btw?

[clever vault]

https://coggle.it/diagram/ZuS5sqWLaORTct6D/t/what-to-buy-with-logits-by-culhacol-updated-4-29-25/3f208013d1cda066b5e616fa3225724a1d9bcc0bb5ef8e8474dbb33a21b40326
Will say dog I think (for a possible secret achiev in the end?

unsure if it is a good advice, so take it with some salt

[weak tulip]

yeah i saw that

not sure why i bought cat domestication

it is in the secret achievement category but i got none

[fluid delta]

you gotta pet the kitty in one of the views

[weak tulip]

Ohhh. ty 🙂

tight battle for 4th place in my division heh

[clever vault]

Interesting bragging right you try to aim for?

[weak tulip]

uhm, no i wouldn't brag unless i'm #1 like seph always is lol

for #1 i think i'd need at least 10k science

[mild furnace]

when r we gonna get darwinium missions for beyond

😢

[fluid delta]

oh, I'm not always #1, but I'm always Top 10 when I bother to do it. Usually #2 or #3 though

[fair topaz]

how did other plants get infront of earth

/also hi

i just got the game

[fluid delta]

hi!

[mild furnace]

i think for the next few events im gonna start as soon as the event starts so i can rack up some badges

[fair topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/luo-xiaohei-fengxi-wuxian-the-legend-of-hei-gif-10426137583544553565

[mild furnace]

ive been lacking super hard in events

ive been too focused on beyond

[fluid delta]

sweet! what do you play it on?

[fair topaz]

oh theres events?

[weak tulip]

you can only get 3?

[fair topaz]

mac

[fluid delta]

play the game, you'll see!

[fair topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/983148635468476436/1418865286945312778/bounce.gif

[fluid delta]

3 per event

[mild furnace]

i know im saying like across multiple events

i usually run out of time

if i start late

[weak tulip]

yeah, i just mean, no need to stay on day 1 for that

[fair topaz]

hgdsj

[weak tulip]

really? i started 24 late and played through the event twice

[mild furnace]

so ill just start at the beginning idc about ranking cuz no way am i getting anything near top

[fluid delta]

idk if you can run the mobile version on mac.. but maybe you can? ipad version is best i think

[fair topaz]

the earth wa s cold but it looks way closeer than the sun

[fair topaz]

ooh i have to get this on ipad

[mild furnace]

i have 41 badges total its barelt a 30% increase

plus im slower

[fair topaz]

this game is an exsuhgefc for me to play a game while learning because my mom hates me

[weak tulip]

noticably as i didn't even had badges for this event heh

[clever vault]

1 per badge + 5/10/15 from current even makes it over 50%

[mild furnace]

2 things u dont have to actively play the game its idle lol and 2 focus on ur education man

the game isnt going anywhere

but ur grades will if u let them slip

[weak tulip]

will be interesting to see how well i do once i get a event i already have 3 badges for

[clever vault]

this game is somewhat educational though

[mild furnace]

imo its just click and unlock i dont read anything

[fair topaz]

i am homeschooled this is basically just fun homework me for

[mild furnace]

besides names

[weak tulip]

yeah, somewhat... if you care to follow up

[mild furnace]

id suggest watching youtube videos covering certain themes and topics instead then

like educational videos

when the person explaining does it well its quite fun to listen

[clever vault]

homescooling can be such a hit or a miss, although my country it's hard to be homescooled though.

[fair topaz]

im pretty well on biology n such i just want my mom to see not all games are bad

[fluid delta]

the game is very easy, just do the obvious thing

[fair topaz]

i forgot some countries dont allow homeschoolijng

https://tenor.com/view/gdfactory-gif-17246498409427376873

[weak tulip]

I learned more about Messier, as I figured it deserved my attention as the top producer heh

[mild furnace]

ur mom most likely wont bother to see that

id say just do it in ur free time

like u shouldnt play games during class time

[mild furnace]

ye unless ur an actual teacher i would recommend

[fair topaz]

helicopter parent can be such a drag

https://tenor.com/view/anime-naruto-drag-ugh-sigh-gif-3111020248710543354

[fair topaz]

i only have to do 4 hours im done for now

[fluid delta]

idk which country you are in GEGE, but homeschooling is usually a lot worse than public schooling

[mild furnace]

idk much but from the homeschooling and overwatching she might be a bit obsessively protective over u

id say have a chat with her to like

ease up on u

idk

[weak tulip]

idk, public education has gone down the drain thotugh, too. depending on where you're at.

[mild furnace]

i cant say cuz idk ur situation but if shes pushing u too much be honest with her

[fluid delta]

yeah idk, parents usually really dislike un-asked-for advice about how to raise their kids

[clever vault]

I think most parents are worse in teaching than actual teachers too, however I will try not to comment much more on it, due to lack of experience on the subject itself or knowing people with experience.

[fair topaz]

she didnt want me to get sick during covid and the shootings have gotten bad

[mild furnace]

real public school was rhe biggest shitter and private was an even bigger shitter cuz they somehow managed to give less of a fuck about teaching

man

america

[fair topaz]

LOOL

[fair topaz]

meh im almost 18

[weak tulip]

yeah it really depends on where you are. some public schools just don't give a fuck, the teachers have given up, etc. i heard so manny horror stories

[fluid delta]

you will get covid at some point, guaranteed.. but at least you are young, you probably won't be hit too hard. sorry to hear that shootings are a problem where you live, that's bad

[clever vault]

school is also good for social contacts.

[mild furnace]

hope homeschooling didnt mess with ur social skills too much cuz imo thats the most important thing along with just like normal education stuff

[mild furnace]

literally

[fluid delta]

yes, but pre-Uni, not contacts that matter, usually

[fair topaz]

she doesnt do my schooling , it is like those zoom meetings but just with pre recorded videos

[weak tulip]

i think i actually managed to never catch covid so far. but i hate people lol, so that makes it easier

[fair topaz]

it s ok

[mild furnace]

i caught it 6 times… and every time it was a new strain of it

which sucked so hard

[clever vault]

yeah school shootings.... glad I am in a country where a single shooting will be natinal news (non-mass shooting), happens less than once a year.

[weak tulip]

i had a cold sometime in 2022, but i am pretty sure it wasn't covid. i didn't even bother to get tested, it went away after 3 days and felt just like a normal cold.

[clever vault]

caught covid twice, didn't have much problems with it

[fluid delta]

it's endemic at this point.. and each one causes some permanent damage.. but it is what it is.. until we have the med tech to make you immune to all possible variants

[clever vault]

unsure about the pernament part, beside long-covid if you get that.

[fair topaz]

ive gotten checked for autism depression anxiety and adhd i dont know if ill be safe in the world but ill tryergfd

[weak tulip]

these terms are all so overused and over-diagnosed in my opinion

[fluid delta]

the world is an inherently unsafe place, all you can do is be the best you can manage to be..

[sinful delta]

I was sick like 250 times during 2020 💔

[mild furnace]

the last school shooting that happened here was one guy that threatened to shoot his students but didnt do it like 10 years ago i think?

[fair topaz]

my immune system is actually really good, though i havent gotten a flu or any shots since i was 2

[sinful delta]

idk how much but I know there was a point in 2020 where I got really sick really often (I would only be not sick for 2 days at a time before being sick again for some reason)

[fluid delta]

glad to hear it

[fair topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/like-spookiz-kebi-spookiz-gif-13711627275124882869

[clever vault]

most people are nice, and will try to be nice to you, unfortantly with most things the small minority can really mess things up.

[fluid delta]

yep

where you live matters too.. some areas have a much better social contract than others

[weak tulip]

it mostly depends whether you're exposed to any viruses you haven't encountered before

stay away from children. they are the worst in terms of virus carriers lol

[mild furnace]

u will most likely be fine if u surround urself with ppl that accept u even if others dont it doesnt matter plus to me u seem like a normal person im not saying for me its an issue but u overshare a little and some ppl might not be comfortable witj that

other than that ull be ight

[fair topaz]

well ive only gotten colds in my lifetime, ive always wondered what the flu would feel like

[sinful delta]

young children especially

they usually aren’t very hygenic

[clever vault]

flu can be a bit worse than a cold

[fair topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390451474584043611/1400922326547038338/IMG_3523.gif

[dreamy echo]

you're tired

[mild furnace]

my gfs young brother licks everything snd touches everything its so gross

[sinful delta]

Eugh

[mild furnace]

little kids r so fucking nasty

😭

[clever vault]

however a bad cold is worse vs a "good"flu (is good the right term here?(englisch is my 2nd language))

[fair topaz]

i must have a flu everyday

[weak tulip]

it's a vague distinction, to be honest. But I had a serious case of flu/cold one time. It was after I went to Chaos Communication Congress. 10k people from all around the world cramped into an inside space. Virus fest galore.

[sinful delta]

I had a classmate when I was in 4th grade that would dig in his butt and touch everything

And he was so annoying

[weak tulip]

I had a "cold" for like 9 days

it just wasn't going away

[sinful delta]

Me and my best friend hated him

[weak tulip]

higher body temperature (flu) coughing/sneezing and just feeling miserable for 9 days

that wasn't fun

[dreamy echo]

!((flu -> tired) <-> (tired -> flu))

[mild furnace]

like hes a nice kid but MAN i remember i was in the car with him and he stuffed his whole arm into a bag of chips and stuck his entire hand in his mouth licking it up and down and wiped it with crumbs all over his phone and my gfs youngr sister

[fair topaz]

geez that sounds like a watered down black death w everyone all up on each other like that

[mild furnace]

it was HORRIBLE TO SEE

[weak tulip]

with a normal cold, there's like maybe 1 day you feel really sick

[mild furnace]

AND HEAR

[zenith smelt]

I swear there was some research that showed kids who eat dirt tend to have a stronger immune system

[fair topaz]

yes

[mild furnace]

the fucking slurping

and the crumbs

little kids need to like be forced into those royal manners classes

[clever vault]

adults too

[weak tulip]

nah, nothing like that. you have no pain and have no sense of dread... it's just ... you're sick. i spent the time in bed and watched through all of TNG, DS9 and Voyager lol

[mild furnace]

yes its shoxking how many generally socially gross ppl there r and im not talking about in an autistic not getting social cues way cuz thats totally normal and fine imo

i mean like

being mean to waiters

or treating ppl badly or just ignoring ppl or being bad

[weak tulip]

really flu/cold are not good terms for definitions. cold is a weak flu, but they are the same thing

different strains of RSV basically

[zenith smelt]

I really hate the ignoring people one

[fair topaz]

feels awful doesnt it, sorry that happened

[weak tulip]

actually, it wasn't so bad. I was served food and binged through all of Roddenberry 🙂

[mild furnace]

right like mfs will give u good advice then they go against it and itll go wrong then they lash out

[fair topaz]

well yeah being served food IN BED heaven

[mild furnace]

i hate rude people bro theres literally NO reason ever to be rude for no reason

[weak tulip]

i hate deceptive people more

[sinful delta]

Fr

[mild furnace]

like i get it if ur angry at someone cuz they did something but bro if ur yelling at like a cashier for something and then make a problem over nothing

ur a bitch

straight up

[weak tulip]

rude people at least advertise their personality

[clever vault]

unfortantly what is rude to some people/countries is normal to other people/countries.

[fair topaz]

who knows how long ive been listening to the nutcracker in this game

[weak tulip]

manipulators are the worst. borderline personalities.

[sinful delta]

Exactly

Their personality is already trash and they try controlling other people

Assuming you mean that

[zenith smelt]

I hate manipulators with a passion

[fair topaz]

speaking of countries i love china

i want to go to china

[zenith smelt]

Half the time they just lower one's self esteem so low, they don't even have to do the manipulating cause the other person is now they're puppet

[sinful delta]

The country looks so good but the government is manipulative imo

[weak tulip]

I just recently wasted 3 month of my life with such a person. And to this point I don't even know if anything he told me is true. I suspect some of it it, but whether it's 10% or 50% I don't know. It's not more than that for sure.

[zenith smelt]

Chinese food though

[strange wing]

Yall this is not a place to discuss about this please move to #🏠-general

[weak tulip]

oh no that is a nightmare place. I rather go back to talk about cells.

[fair topaz]

oh woops i didnt know there wasone

uhhh love dna

/iu love biology so uuhc

[strange lark]

Whats so bad about general skull

[fluid delta]

#🏠-general is... a thing. But it's a mess. Better to talk here

[fair topaz]

lowk scared

[weak tulip]

i peeked in there once .. and it was just horrible brainrot

[clever vault]

I wonder how chinese my local chinese food actual is, odds are some of is still to localised....

[zenith smelt]

Why do I have more darwinium in the beta?

[strange lark]

Doesnt mean its like that all the time right

[fluid delta]

i'd say that describes it well, lol

[fluid delta]

if you live in NA or SA or EU, then likely it's not all that close

[fair topaz]

-# doubt it, unless most of the staff is chinese or from china and they actually like their job

wait whats the currency in this game

i cant tell what it is

[sinful delta]

I live in Beijing

I was born here

Then I went here

Then I exist here

[fair topaz]

wwwokahh is chinese hard for you im learning

[sinful delta]

im joking

im born in us

[fair topaz]

oh. lol

[sinful delta]

I went to the us

I exist in us

[fair topaz]

i exist in us

[sinful delta]

United States

[weak tulip]

thats philosophically true, btw

[fluid delta]

No.. none of you are here in my room.. just your words, whispers on the w...screen.

[fair topaz]

the nutcracker music is ringing in my ear does this game not change the music

[weak tulip]

sure but that's just because you're a detached, that is disaccociated, instance of the universe.

[fluid delta]

nono, I'm quite materially present. No disassociation at all!

[weak tulip]

we're disasociated from the whole so we can experience the whole

[fair topaz]

oh crap i missed one of those fun facts

how do i go back

[mild furnace]

i love china too i wanna go to chengdu so bad

[fair topaz]

me too

[fluid delta]

That's a religious view.. while it may end up being true, we'll only know on our own demise.. assuming we can know anything at all that that point

[sinful delta]

Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Michigan Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming

[fair topaz]

is there like a book for them

[mild furnace]

government isnt that important when ur visiting just dont do snything bad or something to make urself stand out and ull be fine tbh

[fair topaz]

i wanted to read that

sigh

[sinful delta]

I know all states by heart

[weak tulip]

the universe can't experience anything because it encompasses everything. in its perspective it is static. but it birthes disasociated instances of conciousness in all forms of life which are able to experience.

[fair topaz]

hey theres mine

[mild furnace]

oh ye what about counties

[fluid delta]

i am staying away from Mainland China until the government stops being run by the CCP.

[sinful delta]

Does anyone know the counties? There’s over 5000 or something

[fair topaz]

africa england and new zealand

[sinful delta]

Exactly

[weak tulip]

I could probably come up with 40 but would struggle

but I'm not american for that matter

[fair topaz]

someone help

[sinful delta]

I only know Polk county

[mild furnace]

which will be never its better to just live with their ideals while visiting not to cause an issue but to still be able to enjoy their stuff

[sinful delta]

btw

[strange lark]

Theres probably like a guy learning these 24/7

[sinful delta]

Because of the tone youre saying this in you sound like you know it

[mild furnace]

u click on the small text bubble

[sinful delta]

Why don’t you give it a shot

[weak tulip]

there's certainly more than one people who knoes all counties by heart

[mild furnace]

FUCKKKK no

lol im just saying

[fluid delta]

... Iowa?

[mild furnace]

idek like half the states

[sinful delta]

no

Polk county Thailand

[mild furnace]

thailand is nice on paper but too much child exploitation and sex work ( nothing wrong with that) but it just involves children too much

[fair topaz]

it would be "knows" friendly reminder

[fluid delta]

No, China is.. not a place I will go to for various reasons.

[sinful delta]

It’s a typo

[weak tulip]

eh, typo.

[sinful delta]

my top one reason is because the government is communist

[weak tulip]

e is next to w

[fair topaz]

where is the bubble

[fluid delta]

See.. the mainland chinese government is communist, like the NK government is democratic.. which is to say: it isn't

[mild furnace]

ok but they have a capitalist system setuo

[fair topaz]

oh rightsorry

[weak tulip]

eh, nah, they aren't "communist" really

[mild furnace]

thats something i never really understoof in recent years

ye

[fluid delta]

that's my point

[weak tulip]

they are authoritative but also very capitalistic lol

[mild furnace]

how r they communist when they have capitalism and capitalistic tendancies

[strange lark]

-# chat getting political slowly but surely perhaps

[fluid delta]

Yeah, we should probably stop the political chatter. We need a channel for that 🙂

[mild furnace]

nah we arent getting political just stating facts and discussing misconceptions

atleast imo this isnt getting political

[fair topaz]

im on mac

[weak tulip]

we could make a thread maybe

[mild furnace]

china thread

[weak tulip]

off-topic-thread

[fluid delta]

it shouldn't be in #🏠-general for sure.. or, one of you make a Discord server and we'll move it there

[mild furnace]

what book r u talking about exactly

what was in it

[fair topaz]

everyone hates me

[fair topaz]

like you know those achievment books in games i thought it had that

[weak tulip]

ah hm can't create threads here

[mild furnace]

theyre extremely lame but showing a. pic of dna and amino acids might be lame for those who dont know lol

just send the tree

[fair topaz]

i missed an achievment and i wanted to read it

[fair topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/they-all-hated-me-todos-me-odiaban-cabizbajo-tite-caminando-gif-271476022722807553

[fair topaz]

okay

[strange lark]

-# If you want to create a political thread here at least talk to a mod about because it might be just borderline against the rules just saying

[mild furnace]

ahhh it should be something like this then its on the side bar me u

[sinful delta]

I already made a server for it

[strange lark]

They dont know the peak

[mild furnace]

i thought u were a mod

[clever vault]

you can click/tap on anything you missed to see the text, if that is what you mean?

[strange lark]

What nah why

Im just a dude

[fluid delta]

yeah just join CountryLand's server like I just did

[fair topaz]

uuuyh this is the mobile app? yeah idk where anything is

[mild furnace]

blue name idk most servers have mod role be blue

[fluid delta]

it should be in the App Store

[mild furnace]

ye but im saying on the pc version there should be a side bar u csn open

to check achievements

somewhere on the left or right

[strange lark]

I guess

[sinful delta]

@fair topaz @mild furnace @weak tulip if you want to keep the discussion in the politics server I made

[clever vault]

pc /steam is on the left

[weak tulip]

ehh debatable

[fluid delta]

it's green, not blue, for devs. Here at least

[weak tulip]

very different from discord to discord

[strange lark]

And orange/ red for mods

[mild furnace]

id like to talk about china places more than its politics tbh

[sinful delta]

This isn’t meant to be self promotive since there’s quite literally nothing to promote there (since I made it 2 minutes ago)

[strange wing]

Damn when did yall brough up politics here lol

[clever vault]

each server can asign it's own roles/couours

[sinful delta]

like 5 minutes ago

[mild furnace]

dw lol idt anyone thought that

[sinful delta]

or something

it’s for mods if they see this

[fair topaz]

ok ill download soon enough

[strange lark]

No idea i was just kind of sitting there

[fair topaz]

ill find it soon LOL i need to play miore anyways

[mild furnace]

fully up to u what u wanna play on but just keep playing eventually u will get a prompt on the sides

[fluid delta]

just make sure you download the ipad version and not the MacOS version.. idk if you actually can, I don't personally use a mac

[mild furnace]

theres an option that lets u buy 10 100 or max and its amazing

not having to click esch thing

[fluid delta]

(but pretty sure it will run, bc same CPU architecture and all that)

[clever vault]

what are the differences on thsoe versions?

[fluid delta]

mobile has ads and can therefore get the ad bonus

[clever vault]

ahhh, like pc/mobie....

[mild furnace]

i fully converted from pc to phone cuz it was inconvenient having to get up to my pc from bed

to play the game

[fluid delta]

smart!!

[fluid delta]

yeah

[mild furnace]

lazy!!😭

more like

[fluid delta]

nono. efficient

and ipad really is the best Cells experience

[mild furnace]

im ngl i feel like the ui is much more comfortable on mobile as well idk what it is

like it feels cozy

[fluid delta]

it's bc it's designed for mobile, it's touch centric too

[mild furnace]

mhm with the 30x meteor i feel that the most

im ngl tho pc is for trees and thats it

like its just for ppl who wanna see the whole entire upgrade tree for events or meso

other than that i see no benefit

[clever vault]

can you explain the trees part, unsure what you mean.

[sinful delta]

This is the tree

The section of the game where you unlock things

[mild furnace]

yes that

[clever vault]

phone has that too?

[mild furnace]

ye but i mesnt u see way more of it when u zoom out snd its more aestheticslly pleasing on pc

but thats ehere it ends

[clever vault]

oh

[mild furnace]

everything else is betyer on phone

like the ui and stuff

and the ad boosts r so nice

[fair topaz]

The perks of living off of some elses crunchyroll, guess what im doing rn

[clever vault]

just cal it better zooming out options.....

[mild furnace]

thats literally what i said before

[mild furnace]

.

[clever vault]

must've missed it, reason of me getting cxonfused about the tree remakr

[mild furnace]

it is cool

idet i was being entirely clear

anyways doesnt matter

[clever vault]

true

[mild furnace]

MOBILE4EVER

that should be a code ngl

speaking of

we need more darwinium coded

codes

like newer ones 😭

[fickle oyster]

Is there a way to see output per second of each planet in the beyond?

So that i don't have to go actually do the math

[fluid delta]

Yes. Touch the planet or look on the planet tab in Beyond

[sinful delta]

my favorite planet

the sun

[fluid delta]

Heh

[fluid delta]

.. procrastinating?

(not judging, I do that too sometimes!)

[fair topaz]

Well im not technically on crunchyroll , i share an account with like 4 ppl so lol

[fickle oyster]

It doesnt say production per second like in mesozoic though

[fluid delta]

Yes it does. I'm looking at it right now

I'll show you, one sec

[fickle oyster]

This is what mine look like for the most part

[sinful delta]

“charge generates”

that’s the production

[fluid delta]

It'll show you "per second" when it generates faster

(meso is the exact same way. so is primary)

(and events)

[fickle oyster]

Ya just annoying it won't do the math for you unless you're at a certain point

[fluid delta]

Yep. agreed

though at least this way it's precise. every 0.8 seconds, it generates one time

[sinful delta]

why did you react with the thumbs down emoji @fickle oyster

[fluid delta]

when it goes "per second", it's instead an approximation, not precise

(internally it's precise, ofc)

[strange wing]

iirc when it goes under 0.25 secs it will convert to 1 second for u

[weak tulip]

my inner solar system is just screaming at me everywhere, rank us up, rank us up!

first 19

[strange wing]

Nice

Just saying why beyond color theme is not purple lol

[fluid delta]

Barnard's Star is a Red Dwarf so... it's red?

[strange wing]

Maybe the old design. In the past beyond icon is blue iirc. For some reason they turned it into purple

[fluid delta]

idk, some of it is purple now, some dark blue, depends on what you're looking at in it, I think?

[fickle oyster]

its not per second which was my original question 🙁

[fluid delta]

tbf, I had CountryLand's interpretation of your question as well. It's only when you shared your screenshot that I saw that you might have meant it the way you did

Please, no politics

[sinful delta]

<@&535129309648781332> political

Also this is also about Gaza and israel

Politics isn’t allowed here.

Read the rules

Then say “oh really”

[hollow haven]

!ban 559102161045159963 posting political garbage

[bright otter]

Banned jeste (Case #3906) (failed to message user: Cannot send messages to this user)

[fluid delta]

ty!

[sinful delta]

Wondering what he was going to send

He said “watch this”

[fluid delta]

I'm glad he's banned

We don't need trolls here

[wide trail]

are there infinite ranks on the planets/stars or is there a cap of like 50 or something?

[sinful delta]

Cap is 28 for now

[strange wing]

Do you mean the generator rank? If yes then it's rank 20. If you mean episode, then there're 28 for now.

[inner tapir]

i have 29?

[fluid delta]

Maybe Alpha/Beta if you're in that, but most recent released Beyond is 28

[inner tapir]

i had done it in beta but i went into game properties and turned off beta and the 29 carried over

[fluid delta]

I'm not sure how beta/alpha is handled with Cells, I haven't tried it. Look at your Reality Engine.. if it has more than just metabits as currency, then you're definitely in beta or alpha

[inner tapir]

nope, just metabits

[sinful delta]

beta if he’s on steam

remember that

[inner tapir]

i think i recall seeing that beta/live are both "the same" (at least for now?)

[sinful delta]

For mobile yes (for a few days until the update gets submitted)

For steam no

[inner tapir]

im on steam

lol

[fluid delta]

true. alpha testing isn't a Steam thing, but "beta" is.

[sinful delta]

Why did you make the image like this

[inner tapir]

unintentional. screen clip grabbed it that way

[fluid delta]

I see what you mean. but for sure 28 is the max beyond in release.

[inner tapir]

im hyped for the reality reboot to go live

[fluid delta]

I'm hyped too

[inner tapir]

i love this game lol i've always looked forward to updates and new releases

i (of course) wish they were more frequent but this next big one seems really exciting. i did the alpha for a week and reverted because i wanted to leave some to be discovered

though im curious how it's going to convert my existing into the new one (apologies if i missed any official documentation on how that will work)

[fluid delta]

Yeah, the discoverability is part of why I don't touch beta in this game.. wanting a smooth experience and lack of bugs is most of the rest.. and not wanting any potential issues with saves when having both release + beta/alpha is the remainder.
We don't know how the conversion will happen, but I know I will be doing the Legacy Protocol, which basically sidesteps the problem 🙂

[inner tapir]

i've been stuck in my reality engine just short of what i think is the last upgrade, the one for 50.0Qa

as you see in screenshot i've been at 21Qa for months

and ill check in on it periodically but it goes up like 1% after a month, which is really not enough to even make a difference so i sort of just gave up on even monitoring it. maxed everything out in beyond, ran through all the logit events many times over. stopped advancing mesozoic after prestige 2 lvl 16 and just decided to try and keep that moving along and get to P3

yeah i have extra sticky gluons and i need neutrino expansion for 50.0Qa which doubles simulation speed. currently at 21.08Qa metabits

each entropy tap for me is 2.8Sdc and i run an idle clicker that clicks every millisecond unless i interrupt it. Even with that sitting there clicking, i only generate ~80B metabits/sec which is like comparing a cup of water to the ocean

[fluid delta]

It's going up slowly mostly bc you didn't do much Meso, and not having a lot of badges isn't helping either. You are getting x1370 from Meso. I get x5500. But yeah, that last node is a slog, it takes a few months, even if you have lots of badges and have done everything else

(and I get not wanting to do all of Meso, I put that off for the longest time as well. Those prestige levels are so boring )

[inner tapir]

horribly boring

dont get me wrong, im at the point where causing extinction and running through next level is maybe...3-5 minutes of time

but it's the whole process of getting through each level

[fluid delta]

yep. I hear you. I did it. Painful.

[inner tapir]

how far into meso are you?

[fluid delta]

I did all of it, all 550 levels

[inner tapir]

oh so there's like, an actual END to it?

[fluid delta]

yes

[inner tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

is there a particular unlock/advantage to subjecting myself to that level of torture? Im at P2/40 now

aside from the cumulative bonus in primary

[fluid delta]

Nope

[inner tapir]

grabs lotion ok, ill be back lol

[fluid delta]

How it will be handled with RE revamp, that idk

heh

"enjoy"

[inner tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-joan-songsbyjoan-alanbenj-alan-benjamin-thomas-gif-14929686712421084839

ok my goal is to get to P3 tonight lol

[fluid delta]

you can do it! honestly, it's easy, it's pretty fast, but.. so SO tedious

if you spent all of one single day doing Meso and nothing but Meso (and food etc) I bet you could get the rest done

I think I could have, but I could only stand so much in one sitting

[inner tapir]

yeah like ill run through 10-12 levels in a sitting

and then im like OK NEED TO NOT DO THIS FOR A BIT NOW

[fluid delta]

heh.. the low levels.. like idk 1-20 are super fast, but then it goes much slower... logarithmic.. or exponential? time, idk.. for obvious reasons, I'm sure you know what I mean

[inner tapir]

yeah i get it. i just did 40 and 41 since our last few messages

the auto clicker really helps generate a crazy amount of income fast

[fluid delta]

i'm on mobile (ipad) so I don't need a clicker, but i get it

[sinful delta]

🎉

Salute to you

[fluid delta]

Thanks!! Most here probably have.. it's nothing special, just... "feels like work" I guess. I hope they get rid of Meso Prestige at some point.

[amber canyon]

Only the 3 main sims afaik.

I analysed my way out of it. Have a list of what to buy in what order if you want?

I have a lot of Darwinium gathering dust, but expect it will come in handy for the reboot.

[untold python]

HIIII

[amber canyon]

That's basically what I did: spent enough BH at E28 to just get my ranks up (gold and the relevant silver), then started saving for E29.

I think I need ~50 BH to all get my 3 golds levelled up ... So not there yet (got 38, which will almost certainly get 2 of them ranked).

[fickle oyster]

Is it normal to hit a huge hump/slowdown at 45 trillion metabits?

[amber canyon]

No idea, sorry. But suggest look at the stats in your reality engine and see what you could focus on to improve your multipliers. The answer is usually Meso.

[toxic burrow]

Everywhere req thing, How do i get more? and i have 1.28

i've been playing since 2019 but i took alot break

[fickle oyster]

for meso do you guys usually do the last collect X amount or do you leave that mission?

[amber canyon]

I did, but I was happy to leave it for a while to do it's thing.

[wraith terrace]

I left the final 2 achievements in meso as "aftergame". That is, I got to pres 10 lv 50, let it idle and checked every once in a while. Took a very long time, but no effort at all

[high onyx]

well, well, well

[mild furnace]

yes

especislly aroujd 45 trillion u have to push for the cosmic collector then the other boosters will come easier

[autumn orbit]

Idk if I’m far enough in the game or not but what does the science u collect at events do

[mild furnace]

determines ur place on the leaderboard

[autumn orbit]

Ohh ok

[mild furnace]

and yhe goodies u get from it

[autumn orbit]

Thank u

[fluid delta]

I left it unless it was quick.

[fluid delta]

Sure. Idk if I’ll do it, especially since RE revamp might change things up in that regard, but… maybe

[sullen hill]

Thanks for bringing back this event

[acoustic jolt]

They all cycle eventually

[sullen hill]

Yes but they should never be skipped
Should I write this in the suggestions?

[wicked sequoia]

Do you guys recommend upgrading traits in beyond?

[clever vault]

not the old ones, but new ones yes

or rather any trait that effects the latest generators, should be upgraded.

[wicked sequoia]

I upgrade any traits I see

[fluid delta]

No. Computer Lunch knows what they are doing, they already rotate them according to some algorithm we don’t know, they aren’t in a specific order, though there seem to be clusters that tend to occur together

[fluid delta]

By traits do you mean silver and gold cards?

[wicked sequoia]

All of them

[sullen hill]

I only care that events won't skip

[wicked sequoia]

Not mesozoic ones tho

[fluid delta]

Events skipping implies a specific order. There isn’t one.

[clever vault]

one might argue if certain events can come after other have run 2+ times might also be....odd (if this is the case)

[fluid delta]

Yeah with Beyond, do the generators that make sense, upgrade the cards as far as you need to, and then once complete, only do the last generator since it’s what will give you a head start on the next beyond

[fluid delta]

True, but… well, it comes down to we don’t know why CL picks the events they do, but they do offer all of them eventually… which is good enough I think. Besides, what matters way more is the raw number of badges themselves, than the specific events they happen in

[clever vault]

on an other note....seems getting in top 10 will be too hard for me, needing over 3k points....glad I only sprinkled some darwinium though.

[amber canyon]

Righty. Got my 3rd badge for this event (took 5h20m while playing moderately actively, 95% badge boost and 4x ad boost). In 9th (with 2000 science, div 190). Just gotta keep it going for the next 4h20m ...

[woven agate]

Buff infused tea

It's the only one that actually just feels slow to progress through

[tall mirage]

just hope

[tall mirage]

Nicee

[amber canyon]

I imagine that's intentional by the Devs, given it's infused tea?

[fluid delta]

Gotta let that tea steep! 😛

[gray yew]

Damn that’s poetic

[weak tulip]

i can't find the kitty...

[fluid delta]

The Cells wiki will tell you how to do all the achievements

[weak tulip]

ok i will check

hmm doesn't really help lol

ah finally found it

[lavish sorrel]

I beat the event LETS GOOO

[weak tulip]

lost some places but i should keep top 10 \o/

[lavish sorrel]

I have 2105 science

[weak tulip]

i'm at 9000

[gray yew]

resists urge to make that old joke

[weak tulip]

well i'm still slighty under 9000

[gray yew]

Ah screw it

ITS UNDER 9000!!!

damnit ket

[weak tulip]

lol

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[woven agate]

We knowwww

[mild furnace]

wtf

[amber canyon]

Are you planning on being undead for Halloween?

[mild furnace]

i just collected 1.2 ovg from afk

and it just disappeared???

it didnt even count???

i afked all day man

I WAS SO READY FOR EP 21

i fucking hate when cells does this man

[amber canyon]

I hate that glitch 🙁

[mild furnace]

it just cancels collections

why does it do this

have ppl not reported this enough for the devs to look into it

this has happened atleast a dozen times now for me :(

[amber canyon]

I've not seen it as a bug report. But not looked for it tbh.

[autumn orbit]

Fungus among us? Chungus among us…..

Much to think about there. Read that again.

[mild furnace]

ur such a fungi

[autumn orbit]

Those who know….

[amber canyon]

The old jokes are the .... Old ones.

[mild furnace]

kf

i bet ur like old bro

ur atleast past uni

[amber canyon]

Yup! Relative to you I imagine 🙂.

[mild furnace]

ey bro

i turn 20 next year

WOE

[amber canyon]

I've been out of uni two decades now 👀.

[mild furnace]

WTF

I TURN 20 NEXT YEAR

THATS CRAZY

no thats like jarring

[amber canyon]

You were born well into the 21st century! And you're an adult!!! Now that's crazy 😉

[mild furnace]

NO IT IS MAN

BIG 20

well

not big

but like thats old

i always saw ppl that were 20 on social media and shit and i was like thats sooo far im chillin

[amber canyon]

Nah, it's not old. Old is ... Well about 10 years older than me 😁..

[mild furnace]

hey man

ur young at heart

i can tell

fr

but man i still feel 14 not even close to 20

not always just i forget im not 14 anymore to put it in better words

[amber canyon]

I'm footloose and have no responsibilities except for me. That's good enough for me.

I imagine most people always feel about 2/3 of their actual age?

So you feeling like 20 is weird isn't surprising.

[mild furnace]

honestly man that kinda life is free u can go and do whatever and theres not really anyone to stop u

or to like responsibility anchor u down

ykwim

[amber canyon]

Yarp. Not so long ago (for me anyway) I travelled for a couple years.

I'm currently working though. So stuck in the UK.

[mild furnace]

i hope i can travel soon i wanna go around so bad especially to like places rich in food culture like some asian countries and south american

[mild furnace]

what part of uk?

scotland would be nice to live in

theres a ton of beautiful forests up around the borner

border

[azure turtle]

I'm not alone yay...

[amber canyon]

Asia's defmy fave place to go.

I mainly split my time between Nottingham and Bath. In Southampton next week though.

[mild furnace]

u ever been to newcastle? so far its my fav big city absolutely love it there whenever i visit england me and my gf do a day trip there

edinburgh is kinda whatever its a tourist city with a perpetual bagpipe playing😭

[mild furnace]

sooo many ppl r with us man

[amber canyon]

I'd say generally, try make decisions that will increase your future choices, if you wanna travel. Uni's a good start!

[azure turtle]

What if you don't know what you want to do in the future? Lol

[mild furnace]

yee thats what im focusing on rn i graduated 12 grade but failed my “ final exam” cuz its in my 3rd language so rn im trying to do my GED instead so i can get into uni and start work

[amber canyon]

Newcastle ... Don't think so. Not that I remember ... Maybe clubbing (back in the day!).

Edinburgh, been a few times - last time was Dec 2023. It was cold, miserable and raining.

[mild furnace]

my dad hired me as an intern but i did some sales and absolutely loved it so i think i know what i wanna do for the next few years

[amber canyon]

And there were bagpipes.

[mild furnace]

edinburgh is only nice for the botanical garden the squirrels come up to u there cuz theyre fat and think theyll get food from u

i had one grab onto my hand and scurry off lol

newcastle is fucking amazing tho so much culture mix there

[amber canyon]

Sales is good!

Oh ... The botanic gardens ... Is that the cool Victorian wrought iron glasshouses?

Oh! I remember, I went to Newcastle maybe 2007-ish ... Can't remember much though ...

[mild furnace]

its the surrounding area unfortunately all 3 times i went it was under construction 😭 and the only time in the spring i got to see it i had to sprint from the airport to the garden to buy my gf mossballs as a surprise before my train left cuz she loved them last time we went

so i didnt see much of it in full bloom

it scool tho i got to see the forests

i go mushrooming sometimes when its the season

the mushrooms u can find r insane

[amber canyon]

The squirrels are friendly in Sheffield's botanic gardens too.

[mild furnace]

like my gfs mom found a 1 kilo porcini or however its spelt

[mild furnace]

u ever been to the monkey sanctuary in trentham?

its a big garden area and they let a whole bunch of macaque monkeys roam around

like huge park

i should say

[amber canyon]

I wish I liked the taste of mushrooms. And shellfish. I def feel like I'm missing out on lots of tasty food.

Trentham? Nah. Been past it on the motorway loads. Never stopped though ... Except for a long weekend in Stoke.

I like those free range type wildlife parks though.

[mild furnace]

honestly for mushrooms i used to hate them as well but its mostly how u cook them

usually we dehydrate the mushrooms we get and put them into soups or other places that need flavor

also ye i completely get the free range parks but i remember one time when i was walking around those area i got a tick on me

didnt even know but luckily nothing happened

england has alot of really nice forests better than eastern europe for sure

[amber canyon]

They're just about edible raw for me. That smell and cooked taste... Yeuuurgh. For me.

Fun fact: The Hari Krishna people once told me that mushrooms were the 'food of the devil's. So there is that. It's cos they grow in the dark (apparently).

[fluid socket]

I have been slowly turning around on mushrooms lately. They used to be a hard no, and then I started noticing subtleties you can't get from other ingredients. Still not much on shellfish. Probably just as well with the radioactive shrimp at Kroger's.

[amber canyon]

I thought Eastern Europe was full of forests? Well, not all of it, obvs.

[mild furnace]

well i usually cook them as is cuz its EXTREMELY hard to burn mushrooms and i put italian seasoning a bunch of salt and some butter after they brown up and get color its perfect

[mild furnace]

well there r forests but its mostly mountains

and rocky terrain

[amber canyon]

Radioactive shrimp???

[mild furnace]

actually thats a misconception there was shrimp contaminated with caesium but its so little ud have to eat tons everday for a year to die from it

like the whole ud need to eat 40000 bananas to die of radiation but ud die of potassium overdose first

[fluid socket]

Yeah, they just put out a second recall (there was one earlier this summer), a batch apparently got contaminated with cesium-137.

[mild furnace]

@fluid socket id highly recommend oyster mushrooms if ur trying them out

[amber canyon]

Ah, 'k.

I wonder how that sort of contamination happens. It doesn't feel like e.g. accidentally putting pepper on your food instead of salt.

Do companies just have Cesium lying around?

[fluid socket]

I did, that's what started to turn me around. :)

[mild furnace]

i like crushing beef bullion into water and slowly pouring it so it absorbs the flavor

it tastes AMAZING

especially when u fry

or well pan fry

it becomes kinda like a bacon sub

[mild furnace]

that is really weird

maybe something in a machine part

nothings come out exactly what contaminated it just “ happened in packaging”

[fluid socket]

They're not sure but they think it has to do with some other work going on at the same facility.

[mild furnace]

thats so weird shrimp factory also supply nuclear materials 😭 ??

[amber canyon]

I'm just on Wikipedia now, seeing what it's used for. Loving the 'its only mildly toxic, but has a tendency to react explosively with water' part.

[mild furnace]

genuinely it does not sound believable that this situation even happened

[fluid socket]

https://apnews.com/article/imported-shrimp-cesium137-recall-1f9cda744ae523979ad947767fdedeb9

The details are vague as yet. The actual radiation level is quite low, but it shouldn't be there in the first place.

[mild furnace]

how toxic r we talking

eat it and id survive?

i honestly wanna try super dangerous materials once in my life cuz apparently plutonium tastes salty?

[amber canyon]

Wonder if it's the factory, supply chain or if they source it from a specific place.

It wouldn't surprise me if a specific shrimp farm used contaminated feed ...

[amber canyon]

I'd Def go for the non-radioactive isotopes if you're going to eat any. And don't drink any water with it, lol.

[mild furnace]

u say this but like uranium rock candy doesnt sound appealing to u

?

but it has to be enriched

im pretty sure only enriched glows right?

[amber canyon]

Oh. It's in the same periodic group as sodium. Maybe it forms similar compounds and some sodium chloride salt was actually a bit cesium-chloride?

The whole radioactive Strontium fallout replacing calcium in bones after Chernobyl was that sort of thing afaik

[fluid socket]

I mean, I regularly use uranium glass cups and cocktail glasses, but I don't actually eat them. :)

[amber canyon]

Ooh ... Uranium glassware is pretty! Jealous!

[fluid socket]

Now the red-orange Fiesta Ware is another matter entirely. That stuff is hot.

[mild furnace]

i wanna start collecting

is uranium glass expensive

ive only really ever seen it in the us tho

[fluid socket]

Not really, no. The most I ever paid for a piece was about $350 for a set of hand-blown candlesticks. The vast majority of my pieces are <$50USD

[mild furnace]

ok facebook is actually spying on me

literally first video on reels is uranium glass

[fluid socket]

Red is cadmium glass, I think.

[mild furnace]

i literally never even searched this up before

[amber canyon]

That gives me the ick!

[mild furnace]

radioactive glass either way

[mild furnace]

the glass or facebook

[fluid socket]

Cadmium shouldn't be. Just UV reactive.

That's where the glow comes from, not radiation.

[amber canyon]

I have a couple bits of vintage cased Venetian glass stuff. They're nice ... 70s style / colours. But not radioactive (probably).

[amber canyon]

It's okay, Cadmium has other exciting aspects. Inheritable genetic damage if I recall rightly from last time I had to know what the issue was specifically.

[fluid socket]

Also lead crystal glows. About the only thing we're missing now is arsenic and plutonium. XD

[amber canyon]

FB!

[gray yew]

You could, but it probably really would be "once in your life".

(If you wanna be safer with radioactive foods, try brazil nuts. I hear they're the most radioactive food on earth.)

[mild furnace]

real but everything they could steal from me is not important

its just pics of cats me and my gf

idc

[amber canyon]

So ... Say the Devs do a periodic table SIM once beyond has finished. Like Sepheria(?) suggested. You could try and persuade them to do a cooking based version? Rather than chemistry 😉.

[gray yew]

i was there once
nice place
castle, very gothic-looking tower, and a clock that is (on purpose) a couple minutes fast

[gray yew]

The Elements Of Cooking? Sounds scrumptious.

[amber canyon]

Are you sure you were there? You didn't mention the rain!

[fluid delta]

Heh. Elemental Cooking would be basic… no acids allowed? 😝

[gray yew]

No rain actually! Summer of '21.

[gray yew]

badum tss

[fluid delta]

heh. feeble joke attempt, i know

[fluid socket]

There already is a periodic table game—Idle Evolution.

[gray yew]

a bit basic, yes

BADUM TSS

[fluid delta]

I’m sure there’s idle games for lots of things… good ones tho, idk?

[fluid socket]

Most of my time gaming lately has been either Satisfactory or Planet Crafter. And I can't shake the idea that one is the prequel of the other, and I can't figure out which. :D

[amber canyon]

First ... Pre-heat your oven. The choices are endless! A pile of uranium like that natural nuclear reactor in ... Africa (somewhere)? Some exciting alkali metal? With Oxygen, obvs.

[gray yew]

Yunno, you could describe almost any recipe with its chemical components, and it'd sound super scientific.

[fluid socket]

I really didn't get into cooking until someone described it to me as 'edible chemistry'.

[gray yew]

well theyre not wrong

[fluid socket]

Nope!

[amber canyon]

The whole baking side of cooking is def very chemistry and reactions. As is brewing.

[gray yew]

"Apply a good coating of acetic acid to the heated slices of Solanum tuberosum..."

||(put vinegar on your chips)||

[fluid delta]

much of life is chemistry! or physics, if you get even closer in..

[gray yew]

Dangerous territory, that.

(half-joking)

[fluid socket]

Brewing, that reminds me, I need to put up a batch of ginger beer before the weekend.

[fluid delta]

heh.. well.. yes

[fluid delta]

tasty!!

[gray yew]

gl and have fun

[gray yew]

But maybe The Elements of Cooking could be about the chemical and physical (and possibly biological, you never know) elements that occur in the common kitchen.

[amber canyon]

Have you ever tried undiluted vinegar? Like how chip shops buy it in bulk? It's def weird ...

Not as weird as the ammonium chloride that the Finn's use to flavour lots of their sweets though (to give it a hot peppery taste).

[gray yew]

(we should prolly go to #🏠-general, but im beginning to lean on the side of "screw it, this is way too much fun")

[gray yew]

Waoh.

[gray yew]

Hooray...?

[fluid delta]

Maybe, but more as a spinoff? idk, just going through the periodic table makes lots of sense with how it fits into the other parts of the game. Going into tangents to it… ehh, idk

[gray yew]

118 nodes and seven or ten generators or smthn...sounds normal.

[fluid delta]

Nope. No. If we go to general, anytime that happens, the discussion dies. So.. stay. STAY!

[gray yew]

I've also heard of an Element 119, but it may not be possible for it to even exist. At least, not for any longer than a very brief moment.

[gray yew]

Fuck it, we ball, I guess.

[fluid delta]

mmhmm!

[amber canyon]

They sorta glossed over the chemistry aspects in the cheese event, didn't they?

[fluid delta]

Maybe it does though. And isotopes offer additional design space possibilities

[amber canyon]

That's cos General is terrible ...

[fluid delta]

it is, true

[gray yew]

Well, there's a lot of elements. And if I ever have to memorise that ****ing table again, I'm gonna defenestrate myself.

[weak tulip]

there's definitely more elements but yes, they decay very quickly. however, there is quite possibly another island of stability. They are certainly working hard on this.

[fluid delta]

lol you mean you forgot it once already?

[proud berry]

I would advise that you don't do that.

[gray yew]

I never really learned it. Chemistry was my worst science class.

[fluid delta]

Yes, the island of stability idea is very interesting

[gray yew]

Too late.

:)

[fluid delta]

Physics was mine. I was great at Chem though

[gray yew]

Biology was more me.

[amber canyon]

Are the element scientists getting anywhere near or seeing signs of those predicted stable super heavy elements? Or is that an infinity of gigawatts of power away?

[gray yew]

Honestly (now that I've looked it up), it wouldn't surprise me.

[fluid delta]

We’re all biology, Ketmay 😉 ..But I get what you mean. I know some about a lot of things.. depth, not so much.

[gray yew]

I'm on the low end of the Dunning-Kruger graph rn. The bit where you realise you don't know shit about anything.

[amber canyon]

Pfui ... All these sciences ... Engineering's far better 😁.

[fluid delta]

i tend to think the latter. I haven’t looked in a few years, I should, though

[fluid socket]

https://youtu.be/AcS3NOQnsQM

[proud berry]

People want to know everything.

[gray yew]

defenstrates myself

[gray yew]

Makes sense.

[fluid delta]

Heh.. but at least you realize it. True DK won’t, and will think they know everything

[gray yew]

I guess that's something.

[fluid delta]

it is!

[gray yew]

Now for Step 3: Actually knowing shit about stuff.

[weak tulip]

there's a great two part video on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe5WT22-AO8

[fluid delta]

Engineering is important! And then there’s the crossover with elements: metamaterials!

… or node (as in TSMC) design

[amber canyon]

Yup - Def some fascinating stuff with those.

And also, making sure that people don't get to eat plutonium. Or caesium. Or anything else they shouldn't 👀.

[fluid delta]

Sorry, can’t avoid plastics. They are endemic

[gray yew]

Damn, almost forgot about that one.

[fluid delta]

We all are eating and breathing that

[gray yew]

I mean, we could take a load of those plastic-eating bacteria and dump them onto the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, but I'm at least 90% sure that that would lead to a chain of events that would culminate in the end of society as we know it.

[amber canyon]

Pesky plastics, being so useful ... And (sadly) so used disposably.

[gray yew]

Probably because they're, as far as I know, easy and cheap to make and use.

[fluid delta]

That probably wouldn’t work. it’s one thing to show is eating one specific kind in a petri dish under controlled circumstances, another for it to work in the wild and proliferate

[gray yew]

Okay, it would either lead to the end of society as we know it, or kill the bacteria.

[fluid delta]

besides, “plastic” is an aggregate term

[gray yew]

Unless they're extremophiles or smthn.

[amber canyon]

It's a bit like the asbestos issue. It wouldn't have been an issue - apart from that part of Turkey (?), if it wasn't so damn good at what it was used for.

[fluid delta]

indeed. a civilization ender, if it worked

[gray yew]

So we probably shouldn't.

[fluid delta]

some will try, for sure.

[gray yew]

Again, tht wouldn't surprise me.

*that

[amber canyon]

Do you think humanity / civilisation could survive no plastic?

Given 10 year warning maybe?

[fluid delta]

Survive? Yes. Some would. Problem is, plastic serves functions in modern life that there are no replacements for

[gray yew]

Well, on the one hand, we've gone most of our 300,000-year existence without it.
On the other hand, just getting rid of something used so much in societies, 10-year warning or otherwise, would probably lead to an apocalypse before the plastic was ridden of.

[amber canyon]

(choose your definition of plastic here).

[gray yew]

Like, we spent most of our existence as a species as hunter-gatherers, but dump me in the wilds of East Africa and I'll be dead in a day or two.

[fluid delta]

Yep, up until 1900 perhaps? 1920?

[gray yew]

Sounds about right.

[fluid delta]

I don’t want to go back to that world

[amber canyon]

I suspect there aren't even many subsistence farmers that don't rely on plastic somewhere in the 'supply chain'.

Bakelite was the first wasn't it?

[fluid delta]

.. heh, someone in 2130 wouldn’t want to go back to THIS world. Think about that.

[gray yew]

Nobody does. Every generation has it easier than the previous one. I think.

[gray yew]

That wood-like material that was made of ice and pulped wood?

wait

[fluid delta]

On average, yeah.. but “average” totes a lot of water there

[gray yew]

nvm
that was pykrete

different thing

[gray yew]

And in their history books, they'll have a lot to grimace/laugh at.

[amber canyon]

Ah yes, pykrete.

Fascinating stuff. Although unlikely to be useful for subsistence farmers. Who usually aren't farming in places where ice is common 😁.

[gray yew]

Plus, I hear the plans to use Pykrete for warships was scrapped after the USA dropped the atomic bombs.

[amber canyon]

I think the main thing they'll think about us is 'Why didn't they do anything?'.

[gray yew]

We do that too. I guess it'll just keep happening.

[fluid delta]

Indeed. I mean, “humans dying of old age, how barbaric, right! And they used to eat parts of animals.. ANIMALS! Disgusting”. I can see it now.

[gray yew]

Plus, if past civilisations saw us, they'd think us a bit weird too.

Can't remember who said it, but the past is a foreign country; they do things different there.

[fluid delta]

Ofc. It’s easy when “they” is some vague other persons.

[gray yew]

true

[fluid delta]

yep, i have read that too

[gray yew]

Plus, think about all the stuff that's happening in the world right now.
You cannot make this up. Like, if this were the plot of a movie, it'd be written off as C-Tier Crap™.

[amber canyon]

Gotta say, dying of old age is pretty barbaric ... Shudder ... But there's def issues to be managed with giving people the choice.

[fluid delta]

indeed

[amber canyon]

It was THEM! THEY said it!

[fluid delta]

rejuv would mean we would eliminate the financial burden of social security/pensions, that’d be big

[gray yew]

But if people don’t die, won’t that just mean that the overpopulation issue goes up even more?