💬-cells-chat

[hallow anchor]

most

yes.

[strange wing]

Above 18 -> adult
Under 18 -> minor

[hallow anchor]

kinda like that

[fluid delta]

it depends on the country. in a few you are already a legal adult!

[hallow anchor]

different for everyone

those are just numbers

personality is the reall miror

[gray yew]

Me too
Why do you wanna know, anyways?

[hallow anchor]

job and this game doenst go together

[fluid delta]

legal adult has a distinct meaning. physical adult is.. complex, emotional or intellectual adult is probably not even definable in a way that has biological validity

[gray yew]

I thought it was the age of full maturity, in humans being 21 years for females and 25 years for males?

[fluid delta]

no not really.

[gray yew]

Okay, I guess…?

[gray yew]

Hm. Okay, now that I’m giving it a second think, that’s a good point.

[hallow anchor]

just assumptions

[gray yew]

Okay…

[fluid delta]

biology is complex.. and what counts as "full maturity" either? That's open to discussion, certainly

[hallow anchor]

hell yeah

[gray yew]

The age at which your body stops growing?

[hallow anchor]

above 20

[fluid delta]

generally though, in an imprecise way, 25 is probably a good boundary point

[gray yew]

But I agree, it’s up to discussion. Really, nothing is properly defined for long in science.
Probably.

[hallow anchor]

i like that

Probably.

[fluid delta]

yeah.. see... like I said, biology is complex, you're always growing until you're dead. If you mean height, that varies for various reasons..

[gray yew]

Lots to think about.

[fluid delta]

things get defined often, but what is the current "best understanding", that changes fairly often, at least in some areas

[gray yew]

Mhm.

Sidenote: I know it’s the proper scientific method to question everything, but sometimes I just find it annoying.

I don’t disagree with it; I just find it annoying, sometimes.

[hallow anchor]

Lord knows all.

[fluid delta]

Do you find it annoying, or people who push a particular view annoying? or both?

[gray yew]

It annoying.
If you have an idea, you need a fuckton of research-primary and secondary-to back it up.
And then it’s prolly not even valid.

[fluid delta]

bc we have a certain understanding of things.. that just sits there if/until you do something with it

[gray yew]

I mean, if you ask me, creatures like orcas do have languages, dialects, cultures…but it’s still being debated.

[hallow anchor]

now we are diving deep into the iceberg

[fluid delta]

that's the process of science though.. that's not the same thing as the established understanding of a thing.

[gray yew]

Feels like we wouldn’t assign “human-like traits” to a crow even if said crow was writing a novel.

[fluid delta]

umm.. you can't dive into an iceberg, they are solid, lol

[strange wing]

Uhm... we can move to #🏠-general ig

[fluid delta]

sure. It seems likely though.

[hallow anchor]

bahahhaha

[gray yew]

I get that. Like I said, it’s the way of science to question everything and research always. I agree with it, it’s how discoveries are made.
But I don’t always have to like it-and sometimes, I just find it annoying.

[fluid delta]

yes you are right

[gray yew]

You’re right, my bad.

[hallow anchor]

i have a picture for this

[fluid delta]

post it to #🏠-general

[zealous token]

I swear to god I got a 7 day infinity pass from there once

[gray yew]

Holy…

[fluid delta]

hmm.. was that after coming back after a long absence?

[proud berry]

You remember incorrectly.

[grand inlet]

Does the bigfoot thing do anything other than be an achievement? For example, give an upgrade?

[fluid delta]

no, it's just 2 badges

(or was it only 1 badge? i forget)

[proud berry]

No.

[slate kraken]

W

[fringe granite]

canadian marble fox

[amber canyon]

There are 6 ||sharks|| that'll appear every 14th day. Once you've got them, the 7th days will be alternating ||neutron stars|| and ||25 Darwinium|| - at least for me on Android (who's got to ||stage 2 Beyond and finished Meso||).

P.S. in the stats for reality engine you can see your multipliers from various things. As you buy things, the 'biggest' available multiplier will likely be Meso (because there are ||soooo many levels of it - 550||). But don't worry - after the ||first prestige, it gets way faster||

[mild furnace]

2 more

[mild furnace]

lol what a coincidence i didnt even see this msg

[hallow anchor]

@gray yew @fluid delta Last night when i wanted to send the pics of the cats i instantly got muted for one hour because i sent 7+ pictures

lol

[gray yew]

Well okay then.

[sweet thunder]

i need help with upping my metabits game

fr

I'm stuck on generating only 1B/s

and my patience runs low with 30Qa generated out of 50Qa needed

[gray yew]

Just...anything in the game, really. Meso, Beyond, Badges...just collect the lot.

[vital tinsel]

Reboot the Main Simulation as well, you might a boost on your multiplier

[fluid delta]

That last node always takes a long time, usually a few months. 1B/sec is decent, if you have maxxed out Beyond and done all 550 levels of Meso, then it could be down to the number of badges you have from Explore. Before that last node, I would be making about 2.4B/sec (estimate) but I have a lot of badges

[sweet thunder]

tbf im at 26th or 27th simulation in beyond and 5th prestige in meso lol

and I'm waiting for the last node since, i don't really remember but longer than a couple of months, I've been playing for a loong, loong time

[fluid delta]

and how many badges? But your Meso progress, that right there when you finish it, that will 2x your progress.

[sweet thunder]

I'm trying to catch up in meso but after 20 reboots it's getting boring lmao

and idk abt badges, gimme a sec

[fluid delta]

(i know, doing all 550 levels of Meso is painful bc it gets so tedious, I know, trust me)

[eternal rune]

Sorry but how much the space level on cells game?

[fluid delta]

the most recent one is 28

[sweet thunder]

i have 87 badges, mostly because i often tend to play for 2 weeks straight, almost 24/7 and then gradually stop playing just to come back a month or two later

[fluid delta]

Ok yeah, that + Mesp makes up for the difference between you and me. I have almost 400. So 1B sec makes sense. if you finish Meso that’ll get you up to 2B/sec (after a sim reboot) and at that point you just have to wait. Also, it may be that the Reality Revamp in a month or two will change things to make that last node easier, idk

[eternal rune]

Ah alr

[sweet thunder]

dayum, you must've spent a year playing that game lol

[fluid delta]

heh.. a year and a half, yeah

[sweet thunder]

lmao

either way, thank you so much for the help and clearing things up

[fluid delta]

usually while doing other things ofc, it is not mentally intensive

np glad i could help

[zealous token]

Yes

[fluid delta]

ah ok then that’s probably why. Interesting.

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[limpid crypt]

tomorrow i unlock my last shark

[gray yew]

Hooray!

[limpid crypt]

• in one day i gonna win 5 logits and i gonna buy the vulcano for Meso

[gray yew]

Hooray (again)!

[limpid crypt]

Hooray²

[gray yew]

Ye

[dreamy echo]

woah its gaster

hello fellow runderian

[strange lark]

I cannot believe the royal scientist is collecting sharks as his passion

[primal osprey]

Holy shit early event groups

R TUFF

I have like atleast 4h with an autoclicker and nanobots inside the event

And i join regularly

With 95% boost

And im barely top 10

[fluid delta]

Well sure, someone who has 200% boost will be doing the explore 2x as fast as you. To be expected maybe.. and on top of that, those on mobile will have an additional 4x ad boost, though the autoclicker on PC probably makes that part even

[primal osprey]

Im on mobile okay

But yea 95% is not that good

Bet you could have 1000% on some early events by now

[gray yew]

not me
i just do it for time

[fluid delta]

Nah, noone has that, events ( = explore) haven't been around for that long, and you get less benefit after 200%, and it seems to level off as you approach 400%. Max in reality is probably 300% to 350% for what's possible from the earliest events, I'd think.

(for comparison: my highest events have 27 badges complete, which would be about 250%, and I've been playing for a year and a half)

[warm halo]

Hello, i recently finished Beyond (ep 28) and im wondering how do i get constellation fragments, besides Astronomy missions and upgrading stars. I have 22/33 Consts unlocked, my only option is rlly to pray on getting consts fragments from stars/ astro missions and/or p2w Darwinium? I need about ~180 consts fragments to max 33 constellations. Im guessing u need to play this game for a very long time to achieve that( my total play time is 5h)
At least need to get Carina/Puppis for the achievement, but that will take ages.

[amber canyon]

Yup, I think the oldest events have been run 'normally' 23 times. Which according to the graph is ~350% badge boost. Is possible a beta player might have a few more and maybe they're in the same div- don't know if they play in separate divisions these days (they used to have different events compared to normal players so wasn't even a question).

FWIW I do know alpha players seem to be playing the same events, but in 'parallel', so not the same divs as 'normal' players.

[fluid delta]

I think that's how, yeah.. you might want to save the ones you get bc there's still Beyond 29 and 30 coming in future, and there's sometimes a new constellation at a beyond that you'll want to grab when the Beyond becomes available.

When you've done 30, then backfill in the rest

[amber canyon]

I keep the research missions for white dwarfs and red thingies going most of the time (and that ad boost) as well as collecting the free white dwarfs every 4 h a couple of times a day
Make sure you get the constellation that sets red dwarfs to 6h: with the research mission and ad boost they get done in ~90mins. Even then, constellations took me the longest to finish of all the things

Been playing 15 months, have all constellations and have just over ~1k spare fragments.

[fluid delta]

been playing about the same (give or take), I have 231 spare fragments

[warm halo]

I see... yes, i got the 6h dwarfs one. Im playing like 1-2 months max. Doing all these things, thanks.

[zealous token]

Is that the doctor wing gaster?

[limpid crypt]

Yep

It's me, the man who speaks with hands

[amber canyon]

I think it's just waiting then ☹️.

Trying to rank highly in events and collecting all the free Darwinium you can to buy black holes will help too (If you're not saving Darwinium / Black holes for anything else).

But much like logits,m: you're always short of fragments until you don't need any more.

[split summit]

Hi, does it have any way to check the leaderbord for event like know how much and who is top 1,2,3... ?

[fluid delta]

No

[slim jay]

hello. how does this happen, does the price of each revealed tech go up regardless of the order they're revealed in?

I'm wondering if I should leave old techs undiscovered to prevent new techs from getting expensive

[gleaming dragon]

Every time I try to play in the beyond, progression is slow to the point where I have to wait a day just to rank something up. Any tips on how to make more stardust?

[gray yew]

There may be some constellations that let you increase the amount of stardust you make by tapping.

[fluid delta]

No, later nodes cost more, but earlier nodes' price isn't altered by what you buy later on.

[slim jay]

so water mill always costs 6e24 no matter what? 🤔

[fluid delta]

If you are on mobile, be sure and use the ad boost (4x bonus), you can do a bunch at once to get the 4x (5x with the constellation) for 24hrs or so, then ignore it for that time. Alternatively, getting the 1 month Infinity Pass one time is pretty sweet, applies to everything, and is certainly more convenient than sitting through a pile of ads to get the equivalent. Otherwise, every time you rank up a star, what it gives doubles, and same with the cards associated with it.

[fluid delta]

Idr the price offhand but yes

[slim jay]

I see Thank you for your help

[fluid delta]

np! glad I could help!

[mild furnace]

shat

silksong today

[fluid delta]

And ofc you will want to get nodes in the Reality Engine wherever you can, and progress in the rest of the game greatly increases progress based on that, so generally when you buy some nodes in Reality Engine, reboot the simulation to get the benefit of it

[zealous token]

Yeah I think they show up randomly

[zealous token]

They always stay the same value if that's your question

[fluid delta]

not randomly, but some only show up once you have 100 of a generator

[zealous token]

Yeah I meant on the tab that shows all your upgrades

[fluid delta]

i think it sorts by cost

[zealous token]

Doesn't look like it chief

[amber canyon]

I'd forgotten how long this event takes 😭.

I mean I had my notes ... But assumed it took a long time last time cos it was overnight or something.

[split summit]

K

[lunar bridge]

Does anyone know where the last one is ?

[steady dune]

This one
"Small" event first time in Oct 2024

[lunar bridge]

Oh okay hope it comes back this year too

Thanks 👍

[sterile depot]

so ive been trying to grind metabits but now im stuck at 50T, im trying to get 80T for the next upgrade but every time i reboot the simulation to get higher simulation speed, the metablock size increases, which disallows me to gain more metabits. though i have unlocked the capybara and giant squid augmentation, it doesnt seem enough. so im stuck rn, are there any ways to make things faster?

[latent rivet]

Mesozoic and Beyound Grind, Also Participate in events

[amber canyon]

Have you bought them in the primary sim, not just bought them with Logits?

Check your stats in the reality engine to see your multipliers. But Meso grind (and what it unlocks) is likely your best bet

[wraith terrace]

Just rebooting the sim won't do you much good, if your multiplier doesn't increase significantly. However, metablock size should not be affected by rebooting alone, but by the amount of metabits ypu have... well, not sure, produced or available.

I have no idea how the actual calculation of metablock size works, but it simulates the way blockchains like crypto-currencies work.

[gray yew]

*metabit

[wraith terrace]

No, not really. What's important here is metablock size, which increases from block to block.

[gray yew]

Oh ok

[amber canyon]

My metablock size drops slowly without me rebooting - I don't think avoiding rebooting is a way around it. I remember thinking I saw it drop on reboots though 🤷.

[fluid delta]

your income does slowly drop over time, so there’s that

[wraith terrace]

I'm not too sure, but I believe that metablock size is related to the available metabits. So, if you buy something in the reality engine, your income should go a bit up

[amber canyon]

Sorry! I meant metabit income (drops slowly), not meta block size. 🤦.

I assume that even though my green bar is full (at metablock size MAX), the metablock size is still increasing.

Knowing what's going on wouldn't change anything I do though ... So ... Whatevs 😁.

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[sinful delta]

well neither are living people

[dreamy echo]

this would linguistically imply that he isn't a living person (as well as being not dead)

which doesn't necessarily imply that he isn't a person, it could imply he is in a state that is neither dead or alive

[gray yew]

Like…a virus?

[sinful delta]

Schrödinger

[dreamy echo]

i would argue viruses are alive (imo they're life)

[sinful delta]

wait the opposite actually

Regnidörhcs

[dreamy echo]

yeah actually, that's true

[dreamy echo]

lmao

[sinful delta]

Would have been funny considering this

-# schrodingers cat

[dreamy echo]

wild

-# hunt

[sinful delta]

uhh

coma?

[dreamy echo]

i meant some probably fictional state like reanimated or something but i guess that doesn't work either

[sinful delta]

wait no people in comas are alive

but just alive, not like alive alive

[dreamy echo]

but just because we can't classify it doesn't mean it isn't possible!!

[sinful delta]

what’s reanimated

[dreamy echo]

undead

[sinful delta]

Oh

[dreamy echo]

like zombies and whatnot

[fluid delta]

more like a bot that states it is alive bc it is programmed that way 😛

[sinful delta]

it just states it

it has no actual life though

[gray yew]

I would’ve thought they were somewhere between alive (like a plant) and not alive (like a rock)

[dreamy echo]

my argument is: it can die, it can reproduce, it can evolve: it's life

idr what the common argument against is

[gray yew]

Ah whatever

[hallow anchor]

hi ketmay

[fluid delta]

but what counts as "die"? If something can die, it must be alive, bc death is the state of not being alive, by definition!

[gray yew]

hi

[hallow anchor]

whats upp guys

[gray yew]

but (and yes, this is prolly for #🏠-general), if a virus is somewhere between alive and not-alive, would it "die" in the traditional sense?

[gray yew]

human body event

tryna catch up

[hallow anchor]

oh good Lord i forgot

hopping on the game rn

[gray yew]

cool

[gray yew]

Like, if I somehow acquired the means to completely obliterate a tree and a boulder (and I did), then we would say that I had "killed" the tree, but not that i had "killed" the rock.

So where would a virus fall in that?

[hallow anchor]

oh how i hate when im in top 200

and then everyone tryhards in the last hour

[gray yew]

mhm

[hallow anchor]

this event is cool

[fluid delta]

I'd say "No", but colloquially we would say "die" when we really mean "destroyed" or "non-functional". Anyway, terms don't work so well when we're talking about boundaries.. that's human language for you 🙂

[gray yew]

yeah

[gray yew]

I guess so. I still feel like "die" only applies to living things-so viruses are still a bit of a thing.
Also, I gotta disagree with your statement of "death is the state of not being alive".
By that definition, since the pen and notebook sitting next to me rn aren't alive, does that make them "dead"?

[strange wing]

Agree

[fluid delta]

I was imprecise, I'll restate it as "death is the state of not being alive, where it was alive at one point".. or something like that.

[gray yew]

I'd say that it's when an organism's internal and external organs (lungs, heart, etc) have entirely ceased regular activity.

[hallow anchor]

yall belive in a soul ?

[gray yew]

Mostly.

(Is that even possible? To MOSTLY believe in a soul?)

[hallow anchor]

hard to belive for sure

[gray yew]

I mean, Da Vinci searched for the soul, and was disappointed at finding nothing because he'd really been looking forward to writing down his findings.

[hallow anchor]

well was he a beliver ?

[gray yew]

I'm not sure.

[hallow anchor]

doesnt matter

[gray yew]

ah well

[sinful delta]

damn i started all this

cool

[uncut mirage]

Hi Chat

[hallow anchor]

hello!!!

[gray yew]

hi

[uncut mirage]

might hang out sometimes in tchat here.. this games general chat is the most active over other I have 😄

or not.. idk.. anyway
I don't have much much to say hahaha

[hallow anchor]

idk what to say either

tommorow we will have more luck

[fringe granite]

Hello everyone

[hallow anchor]

hello to you too

love the pfp

[sterile depot]

aren’t we just a human with a brain experiencing reality? and somehow the brain is smart enough to question our existence.

im not an atheist btw

tho ive seen those tradition involving rituals that seem.. spiritual?

idk we’re just humans, just enjoy life (or not)

[hallow anchor]

varies if you read the bible

[fluid delta]

this could all be a simulation/game..

[uncut mirage]

we are tested..... they trying to figure out what works as of living

fo real tho thats what I feel

I'm liking C2S so much tho.. really good game... I just don't like the first primary resets !! so much goddam clicks T.T

[dreamy echo]

well according to wikipedia, viruses and prions are non-cellular life; typically only cellular life is considered in life trees, or considered "alive"

[dreamy echo]

is a table dead?

[dreamy echo]

what do you mean by this?

[dreamy echo]

and what do you mean by this?

[uncut mirage]

we have to be careful with the Bible.. it holds powerful messages indeed but some saying in the Bible can really be badly interpreted

[proud berry]

The same holds true for any religious text.

[uncut mirage]

tru truth be told ^^ when using metaphores and such yeah specially

[fluid delta]

is a table constructed of (in part or in whole) animal parts, dead? If you start talking about composite objects, this discussion gets even more complex... and, really, I don't care about it all that much.. just throwed it out as something to think about for those that want to

[uncut mirage]

Frankenstein: ITS ALIVE !!!!

[dreamy echo]

not animal parts, likely

i was thinking of wood tables, hence plant parts

the common ancestor of plants and animals is the common ancestor of all eukaryotes, they aren't very related
this is just a fun fact it hardly relates to my clarification

[dreamy echo]

i think you would interpret this statement in a different way than i would

i would interpret it as "it has the occasional lasting insight/good moral value, among many that no longer hold, likely as a representation of a larger moral movement within the related culture, or as an old moral statement that is maintained in the text"

i assume you would interpret it as (at least based on the metaphor statement) "it is mostly composed of powerful messages, although some or many of the stories in the text are metaphorical (typically the example given, and often the only perceived instance of this is genesis)"

[uncut mirage]

...

[dull pecan]

Do i have to play event in both version for the same rewards?

[fluid delta]

both versions? The explore events repeat now and then, you get the same rewards each time they do

[dull pecan]

I mean alpha and public versions

[sinful delta]

No?

You get the same rewards no matter what version you’re using

[dull pecan]

Ok so if don't have to play in both version right?

[sinful delta]

No

Just don’t load an alpha save to the public version

I’m warning you

[dull pecan]

Of course dude

[dull pecan]

Thanks but what about the rewards

[sinful delta]

It’s the same

[dull pecan]

I don't understand 😕

[sinful delta]

The rewards are the same

[dull pecan]

So i have to play in both versions to get them right [actually im weak in english so sometimes i dont understand sentences].

[amber canyon]

I think the alive definition includes the ability to respond to stimuli (e.g. move) and to grow and reproduce (at some point).

And pass on traits to descendents. I remember this being the thing that eliminated e.g. fire.

But this was not advanced biology (15 yo) and things have no doubt moved on since then.

Ofc colloquial / natural language usage is different from technical usage: see the perennial 'A tomato is a fruit example'.

(Tomatos aren't perennials).

[sterile depot]

i cant wait for the reality reboot update

[sterile depot]

well i think we are born alive to play the new reality reboot update

dont u agree

[amber canyon]

I have a normal account and an alpha account. I use a different email, and a different app (android).

If I get badges in 'normal' they appear in my normal cells. If I get badges in 'alpha' they appear in my alpha cells. The two games are independent.

You might want to ask in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1377666884895248544 if you need more / different info.

[amber canyon]

Boooooooorn . To. Play. Cells!

https://tenor.com/view/motorcycle-motor-born-to-be-wild-gif-5394254

[dull pecan]

Ok thank you so much but I use same email

[sweet thunder]

what should i get first, international space station or Taj Mahal?

these are the only ones left that give any bonuses

[wraith terrace]

That depends on where your focus lies. The ISS gives a bonus to early stage Beyond, and becomes useless rather quickly. The Taj Mahal boosts idea collection in the main sim, adds a trophy to the Exploration garden and is a midway-upgrade. It does little for metabit production, though.

[median meadow]

Do you guys reckon buying the legacy protocol is worth it?

[proud berry]

Please restrict the discussion of alpha content to #public-alpha-feedback.

[median meadow]

I'm not in alpha

I'm Just asking about the dev diary thing

[wraith terrace]

Hum, dunno. If you want to replay everything, maybe. The diary doesn't mention achievements or ||sharks|| and I would hate to collect those again

Somehow, apart from the x2 bonus, I fail to see the big benefit.

[median meadow]

Yeah, it took me a while to get my metabits to 100qa, not sure if it's worth giving up but I guess si probably will

[foggy rivet]

are the dolphins the end of the game or no

[gusty prawn]

will there be overall reset or its just always 1 simulation?

[autumn pier]

Top 25 rn

I'm holding on

[gray yew]

no

[fluid delta]

Not sure I understand your question.. rebooting the sim is part of the game

[junior pier]

How long have you been playing the game?

[lofty otter]

Dude, can someone tell me why the event isn't opening?

[gray yew]

Since 2019 or 2020? I’ll have to check.

[fluid delta]

It should be for you. Is your internet not working on the device you play Cells on? That would do it

[fluid delta]

A year and a half

[lofty otter]

No, its working, its saying "the event has finished"

or something like that

[fluid delta]

If on mobile, force close the app (not regular close), and it should be fine. I assume just closing and restarting if on PC should do it.

[lofty otter]

Ok, ty

[austere rock]

YAHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOO

[gray yew]

Someone’s excited.
/lh /nay

[fluid delta]

ofc they are! they can finally afford the last Reality Engine node 🙂

(the one that takes a few months)

[slim jay]

It just seemed strange that a tech from the middle ages requires ~2 billion times as much progress as interplanetary travel, i thought like maybe the prices depended on when i met the prerequisites

[austere rock]

Exactly!!!! It’s been a long long grind/idle wait

I don’t remember the last time I did a reboot

[fluid delta]

now you have an excuse for one! 🙂 ... what level are you at?

[gray yew]

Longer than that, for me. Pretty sure it’s because I’m only just over halfway through Prestige 2.

[fluid delta]

ah yeah that makes sense. those Meso really add up

[fluid delta]

Anyway, point being, if it's at least level 50, you'll have the opportunity to do it all over again with the Reality Engine revamp.. for a 2x global bonus!

[gray yew]

Sadly, yes.

[blissful cliff]

yo!

[gray yew]

Yo!

[austere rock]

I don’t know what level this refers to

[fluid delta]

In the game, if you click on settings, then your name, it'll show you it there, it'll be beside your simulation score, it's the big number under the d20

[austere rock]

Oh! It’s exactly 50 @fluid delta

[fluid delta]

Well there you go then! You'll be able to take advantage of the 2x restart thing! 🙂

[austere rock]

[nimble anchor]

is there a limit to the amount of times you can prestige mesozoic?

[sinful delta]

Yes

11 timss

[nimble anchor]

started to wonder i am on 10 and i figured that would be where it stopped but it kept going

[sinful delta]

you first reset on prestige 0

oh wait no there are 11 prestiges

(including prestige 0)

you reset 10 times

[fluid delta]

Prestige 10 is the last one. You reach Extinction 50 on that, and you are done.

[native jay]

How do I leave beta

[fluid delta]

idk but you could uninstall it? if the beta client is separate from the release version (maybe? i've never touched beta) then this would be the way

[proud berry]

Reinstall the app from the App Store.

[native jay]

it won’t reset right

[proud berry]

It shouldn’t.

[proud berry]

Did you save your progress?

[native jay]

Yea?

[proud berry]

Download your save.

[chilly rain]

Hey I’m not new but I’m still on my first rotation of events right. But I see the money one coming up which was the first one I did and I still haven’t seen The Power of Images and I know Face Your Fears is for Halloween. I also need the Math one but I see that is next. My question is why are they skipping The Power of Images aka the visual arts event? Also will I be able to get those badges? My list of achievements and badges is close to being completed and was hoping to be done by Halloween!

[fluid delta]

As far as we know, which events come up is random. If so, then the ones you are wanting will come up eventually. Do keep doing them even if you’ve done an event before, bc you’ll be able to complete the event faster, and each badge is a global +1% to speed outside of events, and also adds to your Metabits earned, if you have the appropriate node(s) in the Reality Engine.

[chilly rain]

Gotcha appreciate it! Just hope it comes before the alpha update lol. Them 3 and the Halloween 1 plus the Halloween achievement is the only one I’m missing besides 10 more beyond and I got 2 more sharks to get. I even unlocked most of the Logis stuff

[fluid delta]

idk about alpha update, I steer clear of it bc I like to avoid bugs and see the content as it was intended.. but as you probably know, the Reality Engine revamp is hopefully next month.. maybe that’s what you mean? But yeah, I’m current on everything released, still getting my weekly 6 badges and Top 10 rewards in events when I feel like it. I need new content!

[amber canyon]

The order events come up somewhat predictable (sometimes it changes, d'know why). The art event hasn't appeared the last couple of times I 'expected,' it. Maybe it's broken?

I keep track 'cos I wondered about the order. Here's a snip - the most recent running order is the right hand column and diagonal red lines show where events moved around. You can also get info on the wiki. If you're that interested 🙂.

[desert pebble]

hello im new

[dull pecan]

How to collect 3 badges per event [f2p]

[fluid delta]

complete the event. All of them except one (Cryptids) give 3 badges

[dull pecan]

How to complete it on time

[fluid delta]

well, if you are new to events, start early. if you are on mobile, you need to do the 4x speed boost from ads (first 4 give a 2x bonus only).

every badge for an event makes the next time you do the event 30% faster, and 1% for non-events.

[dull pecan]

Doing that already but still couldn't complete at least one

[fluid delta]

You will find that if you go then come back even 5 minutes later, it’ll give you the option to watch an ad for 2x, do that, it’ll give you more than keeping the game open. Otherwise, play the event often, bc of the way the generators and the nodes work.. lots of multipliers but you have to have them to benefit

(idk if you have to do the ad stuff when you have few badges but it’s such a big bonus i always do)

[dull pecan]

Ok thanks for the explanation and why I never receive notification.

[dull pecan]

Sorry what?

[fluid delta]

yw. idk about notification i have it turned off for that

[fluid delta]

by that i meant that if you ignore the ads part, don’t get the boost, you might still be able to complete it, it will just be a lot slower

(and i have tried to see if blocking ads at the iPadOS level works.. the game plays but it does not let you access the ad boost)

and ofc if an ad starts, nothing says you have to watch it, you can do something else 🙂

[dull pecan]

Ok thanks

[fluid delta]

np!

[dull pecan]

And what if I skip the ads somehow then?

[fluid delta]

then it still gives you the bonus as far as I can tell.. if you are talking about the 2x/4x bit.. or coming back from being away and the 2x bonus there

[dull pecan]

Ok

[fluid delta]

and don’t neglect the rest of the game either, Meso and Beyond help Primary progress

[dull pecan]

Ok thanks

[fluid delta]

np glad i could help

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[vernal mist]

Good

[chilly rain]

Thanks so much for this! It’s highly appreciated

[chilly rain]

And yes that is what I meant I’m only doing it as it’s released

[desert pebble]

on the reality engine im only getting 5.73 million a second so basically im hardly getting any Metabits
and as you can see the next highest upgrade I have in the reality engine is 80.00 Trillion so basically its going to take a very very very long time to reach that so wtf am i doing wrong?

also havent played this game in a while so fr forgot everything this included so yeah just this

[amber canyon]

Look at your stats - particularly multipliers and what you'd get if you reboot. Is most likely that Meso levels / prestiges that will have most effect. Or a reboot.

[dull pecan]

It's hard to gain metabits after sometime

[dull pecan]

Hlo dude

[fluid delta]

That’s usually only when going after the very last node in reality engine though

[amber canyon]

Or getting bored with Meso 😬

[sinful delta]

2022 - early 2025 flashbacks

[fluid delta]

Most likely you haven’t done much Meso, Beyond, or Events/Explore. Certain nodes give multipliers based on progress there, and you have most of them.

[desert pebble]

ok yeah its that

im Beyond 7 Mezo 16

[amber canyon]

I did most of mine when I had flu for a week. Stuck in bed, not able to think ...

[desert pebble]

and havent done much events

[dull pecan]

How are you now dude

[amber canyon]

Ah yeah, Meso pgoress will unlock things too - up to about level 38 I think? And events will help you get logits to unlock the two important things from the logit console.

[mild furnace]

unironically either get better or start early

[fluid delta]

Yep, that’s it, right there. You can do 28 Beyond, 550 Meso, and basically infinite Events, though of that last you can only get 6 badges/week

[sinful delta]

Yes

38

[fluid delta]

Heh and yeah same advice I gave to Pixie applies to you too!

[sinful delta]

I just worked on meso when I had time

[amber canyon]

I'm fine! Contemplating going to the shop now it's a bit cooler. Feeling Idle though. You?

[dull pecan]

I'm also fine buddy and idle most of the time.

[dull pecan]

Focus on meso right and how?

[amber canyon]

Sadly, food isn't gonna magically appear in my house though, lol.

[dull pecan]

Lol dude 🤣

[fluid delta]

Complete the Meso levels. There’s 50 per Prestige, and total 11 Prestige (if you count the first as Prestige 0), for a total of 550… so, 534 to go,.

[dull pecan]

Ok sir!

[fluid delta]

(it does get faster past the 1st time, but you probably will get very bored. I know I did)

[dull pecan]

Oh ok

And this game is very boring man

[fluid delta]

(gold and silver cards get kept each Prestige)

[dull pecan]

What

[fluid delta]

Yes, it can be boring sometimes, but if it’s not fun for you, then stop playing. The game isn’t meant to be a chore, after all

[fluid delta]

Yes. It explains it when you reach 50 and go to do your first prestige

[dull pecan]

Ok

[fluid delta]

it’s been many months for me, but i think i remember it saying it. it’s why it goes faster, the more prestige cycles you’ve done

[dull pecan]

Ok thank you so much dude

[fluid delta]

np! glad i could help

[dull pecan]

And how you got so many roles?@fluid delta

[fluid delta]

That’s how

[dull pecan]

Dude seriously

And why you reboot very less?

[fluid delta]

bc i haven’t needed to. I only reboot when there’s a large difference in the multiplier

[dull pecan]

How much large like 10-20 ?

[dull pecan]

Doing that already

[mild furnace]

highkey meso became unbearable after 3 prestiges

its the same thing over snd over

[fluid delta]

oh ok i guess i got a little confused there. you get it by progress though, and you post your screen in that channel

[mild furnace]

its a test of will more then a test of time

than*

[amber canyon]

Test of sanity?

[mild furnace]

yes

a prestige can be done in less than an hour after ur first

[fluid delta]

like 5x or 10x the previous, something like that yeah

[mild furnace]

but its so fucking boring

[fluid delta]

very boring yeah

[sinful delta]

patience and boredom as ketmay said

[amber canyon]

Think the Devs learnt their lesson... ? Don't force prestiges on players ...

[dull pecan]

You mean distance right?

[dull pecan]

What is this

[sinful delta]

Question:

*Do you use Miles or ***Kilometers?
React with 🇺🇸 for Miles, 🇬🇧 for both & 🌎 for Kilometers.

-# I have no idea why I wanted to send this, but I sent it.

[amber canyon]

Miles for powered vehicles. Kilometre (😜) for running and cycling.

[sinful delta]

I forgot the UK used both

[amber canyon]

We're just awkward!

[fluid delta]

No. I mean the multiplier it says you’ll get if you touch “Reboot Simulation”. If it doesn’t go from, say, 500x to 2500x or something like that, I don’t bother.

[fluid delta]

Yes. And I do the same for temp.. I live in the US but am also Canadian, so.. 🙂

[sinful delta]

Tf does yes mean

[fluid delta]

it means i use both

[amber canyon]

Another awkward nationality! 🙌

[sinful delta]

Canada did gain independence from the United Kingdom..

[fluid delta]

but clicking on a UK flag didn’t seem sensible since I’m not from there, so.. 🙂

Yes they did.. so did the US ofc, much earlier

[dull pecan]

You mean there should be a gap like this right?

[fluid delta]

Canada also gained independence from France

[sinful delta]

Quebec?

[fluid delta]

New France at the time was conquered by the UK

[amber canyon]

... Do you have two Independence celebrations? If so, do individuals celebrate both?

[fluid delta]

up to you, but i like the gap since it hardly seems worth the effort to redo Primary, otherwise

[dull pecan]

Ok thanks again 🙂

[fluid delta]

We celebrate Canada Day, which while confederation was in 1867, we weren’t technically fully independent until.. 1986 I think? It doesn’t celebrate independence as such

more the formation of the country

[amber canyon]

You can do it in few reboots. Just depends on play style. I finished the reality engine on my 8th reboot I think?

[fluid delta]

Fun fact: Canada almost became 2 countries in 1995 by the tiniest of margins.

[sinful delta]

And so did all these other countries…

[fluid delta]

no, 1931 is not correct for canada. i can’t speak for the others

[sinful delta]

I know

Didn’t it gain independence later in the 20th century

Like the 1960s or something

[dull pecan]

Ok so now I have to focus on meso only

[fluid delta]

1982

[sinful delta]

oh

Later than I thought

[fluid delta]

but it was self-governing in nearly every way that mattered, back in the 1800s

[sinful delta]

I guessed a couple years before it changed its flag to the iconic maple leaf

[proud berry]

The 20th century was quite the era for independence.

[sinful delta]

True

[amber canyon]

That's def the way to drive yourself crazy! I reckon you should just play whichever you fancy - and only as much of Meso as you can be bothered with (noting that it will have an outsized effect on primary sim). But it's all just time 🙂

[sinful delta]

It’s funny to think about the fact that a colonial empire had a colony that gained independence and that colony gained colonies itself

[fluid delta]

no that was totally separate and happened in 1965

[sinful delta]

(The US from 1899(?) to 1945)

[sinful delta]

Damn

(except the 1965 thing, I already knew that)

[fluid delta]

and the change to (mostly) metric was in the 1970s

[amber canyon]

Def one of the best flags around imo. From a design perspective.

[fluid delta]

I agree

[fluid delta]

That’s the US for you

[sinful delta]

Canada discussion reminds me of this

[dull pecan]

And how to avoid impropriet ads as f2p player

[sinful delta]

I don’t know

[sinful delta]

I made this as a joke to how the USA wanted Canada to be the 51st state or something

[amber canyon]

Hmm ... Is it in goggle? Where you say you don't want to see adult content?

*Google, lol.

[dull pecan]

What

[fluid delta]

The US has wanted that for a long time, it’s nothing new

[sinful delta]

I know

Since at least 1812

[dull pecan]

Dude US wants dominance nothing else

[sinful delta]

true coming from an American

[amber canyon]

Isn't that what you meant? By how to avoid inappropriate ads?

[sinful delta]

the USA just wants that

[sinful delta]

in multiple forms

[fluid delta]

Check your platform’s settings. I have personalization turned off so I get whatever

[dull pecan]

U mean im an American?

[sinful delta]

No

[dull pecan]

Yeah

[sinful delta]

I’m saying that as an American, this is all our government wants

[dull pecan]

Yeah

[sinful delta]

Especially nukes

[fluid delta]

Actually, historocally it’s complicated, but generally the US hasn’t sought territory

[dull pecan]

But you know what politics make people hate each other

[sinful delta]

no really

[dull pecan]

Ok

[amber canyon]

There is something in my android settings. Can't remember changing that. I used to get lots of animé-lolita type ads. Think I ust kept reporting them and they stopped.

[fluid delta]

Nah, not true. If it wanted Canada or many other countries it could just go take them. Holding them would be another matter.

[sinful delta]

One thing I like about cells is that it dosent force ads down your throat

[dull pecan]

Is this topic is good for/in this channel

[sinful delta]

You watch ads when it’s important

[sinful delta]

#🏠-general

[dull pecan]

Then go there

[fluid delta]

the ads sometimes are very short, as low as 5 seconds sometimes. which is nice

[sinful delta]

true

now that I think about it

[strange lark]

so true...

[dull pecan]

Is it good to skip them by closing the app or really and then opening it

[amber canyon]

Yeah - most of mine are 5-15s. Occasionally I get a 1m long and that it won't let me close, which is a bit irritating. Not that I watch them 😁.

[fluid delta]

That’s an option.

[sinful delta]

How many ads do you need to watch to get all supporter achievements?

[fluid delta]

You can always force close them.

[dull pecan]

Is it good to do this actually my cousin brother did this with my phone.

[sinful delta]

how would you feel if you woke up one day and you found out a dev gave you infinite Darwinium

[dull pecan]

Achievement for this also nice man

[dull pecan]

That's a nightmare for them dude 😂

[sinful delta]

no they intentionally do it in this scenario

and they got permission to do it

[amber canyon]

200 for the first, 400 for the second is what I've heard people say.

[dull pecan]

What

[sinful delta]

600 for the 3rd?

[dull pecan]

1000 6th maybe lol

[sinful delta]

Or 800

It’s either in a +200 pattern or it just doubles

[dull pecan]

.

[fluid delta]

idk. If CL gets paid either way then they won't care, but Idk if that's the case

[sinful delta]

idk

I don’t do it because it dosent feel right imo

it makes me feel guilt

[amber canyon]

Well, before doing the last alpha app upgrade I may have abused that glitch. A week or two ago. And since then ... I've not bothered opening Alpha. So probably ... 'damn ... Time to stop playing'.

[dull pecan]

I also never did this

[dull pecan]

Cpu starter glitch right?

[amber canyon]

When I got the first supporter achievement I was baffled. Idk why, just seemed really odd to me.

[dull pecan]

What is your meso rank now?

[sinful delta]

550 iirc

[amber canyon]

550. I'm very much end game.

[dull pecan]

I'm very far and do you spend money

[amber canyon]

Twice. I bought a 300 Darwinium for ~£3 as a me-paying-for-the-game in my head Then later on I bought the Infinity pass for a month (to finish grinding Meso and the last reality engine purchase).

[fluid delta]

It seems that certain words cause a 10 minute ban, which is what I just found out!

I've only spent money once: for a one month Infinity Pass. Worth it.

[amber canyon]

Really? I got an hour ban last week(?) for using too many emojis 😁

[fluid delta]

that's a thing????

[dull pecan]

Ok thx

[dull pecan]

Lol

[sinful delta]

Me too

But like 4 months ago

[fluid delta]

i don't use emojis much so I've never seen that

[dull pecan]

Seriously I didn't expect this from you dude

[dull pecan]

Same

[sinful delta]

There is a country that its name resembles a slur that does the same

[sinful delta]

Ok…

[amber canyon]

It was about 10 in one message in a row. People running away I think.

[sinful delta]

I’m not a celebrity, I don’t care what someone expects from me

[sinful delta]

It was some copypaste ass message about WhatsApp

[dull pecan]

Yeah yeah 😂

[amber canyon]

Not that I'm suggesting testing it - but I bet it only picks up US/English/Canadian/etc 'bad' words.

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. makes sense. Sort of.

[sinful delta]

…

[fluid delta]

Most likely. I think I knew the word it had a problem with. I don't really want to test it however, but by all means, you go ahead 🙂

[amber canyon]

Well, anyway. Speaking of slow descents into insanity Vs patience - I'm sooooo close to 300 x ||Messier 87s||.

[static ferry]

how do i get to beyond on the pc version

[fluid delta]

Play on Mobile instead, it's way better bc of the ad boosts. As to PC, idk, same way as usual, I don't remember there being any barrier, you can/could access it basically at the very start of Primary

[fluid delta]

Nice!! I'm behind you there, I only have 208/300 and my cards are only at 7, which is plenty for the next Beyond.

[amber canyon]

At a certain progress in the primary sim (idk when, sorry) it'll unlock and you'll see a swirly purple thing to click.

[amber canyon]

Milky Way in primary unlocks it according to the wiki.

[fluid delta]

It wasn't like that when I started. I could access Beyond on my first day of playing, and did. Maybe that's since changed though.

Meso was a bit of a delay bc I had to reach some amount of progress in Primary, I forget how much.

... though, there's an easy way to check, i'll pull up the Cells website and start a new game.

Yeah, ok, it's changed.

[proud berry]

The same way as on mobile.

[static ferry]

i got to it

[proud berry]

Besides the removal of ads, Steam and mobile are identical.

[fluid delta]

but those ads give a 4x boost, so that's strong incentive to play on mobile. Tablet (like an iPad) is probably the peak Cells experience

[gray yew]

i really should someday

[dawn quest]

guys is offline production slower?

[proud berry]

Yes.

[fluid delta]

it’s faster if you are on mobile and do the ad boost when you come back. otherwise, it’s slower.

[mild furnace]

i love cts but planet x is kinda lazy😭

its just some ?s

[proud berry]

It's an unknown.

[mild furnace]

ye but like

it couldve said find rogue planets

or something

[fluid delta]

Rogue planets are their own thing, it’s not the right term. They say Planet X (the X, specifically) as a stand-in for the various names that have been used over the years for another orbiting planet, and it sidesteps the whole “is pluto a planet” discussion as well.

[desert pebble]

how do i transfer the data from my pc to my tablet?

[proud berry]

"You can transfer your game progress to a different device using the Save Manager system in the Settings tab of the options menu. If you don’t have a Save Manager account, make one by clicking on the Save Manager blue button in the options menu (bottom of the Settings tab) and entering an email address. Then click on 'View' in Crossplatform Saves tab and click 'Upload to the Cloud'. On a different device, log into the Save Manager system with your email address, and download your progress from the cloud using the 'Download to this device' button."
—@lament temple

[desert pebble]

tyy

[drifting gust]

Wait is beyond episode 26 good?

I am top 25 in the explore event too btw

[wraith terrace]

As Planet X could either a) be a planet (has cleared its orbit from smaller objects), b) be one or more dwarf planets (orbit not cleared), c) be some other mass, d) not exist at all, I find the portrait very fitting

[wraith terrace]

Yes

[dull pecan]

Guys i have 128 logits, 301 in-game currency and i didn't bought anything yet.

[wraith terrace]

There are guides to help you decide what to do with you darwinium and logits. I recommend getting two specific achievements first, though

[proud berry]

Define “good.”

[drifting gust]

Like being close to the end and having a lot of progress, I am ep 27 now

[proud berry]

The current final episode is 28.

[drifting gust]

Oh ok thanks

Are the explore events worth it? Are the badges good?

[earnest jacinth]

Does anyone know when beyond 29 releases

[fluid delta]

define “good”. Every type of thing in the game is needed to progress in it

[fluid delta]

no. probably before spring next year

[earnest jacinth]

Oh dear

[drifting gust]

By "Good" Does it impact our stardust/fossil/entropy/idea generation enough for it to be worth it?

[fluid delta]

yes. all content in the game does. if you look at the nodes in Reality Engine, you’ll see why

[drifting gust]

What are yall ranks in the current explore event?

[earnest jacinth]

Where do I find that

[fluid delta]

there’s an icon that has a bar graph thing, it’s the number on it. clicking/tapping it tells you more including what division you are in (each div except the last is 1000 players, excepting div 666 which is for cheaters)

[fluid delta]

what’s yours?

[drifting gust]

Top 25, I think I was good, i have the infinity pass for free in daily rewards and used it to spam nanobots.

[fluid delta]

yes though the event is not over and if you don’t keep doing it, your rank will slip. Heh enjoy the free infinity pass, i suggest you top up all the ad stuff everywhere in the game to max, since you will only ever get that from daily rewards once

what div are you in?

[proud berry]

Episodes 29 & 30 of the Beyond will release in the winter (northern hemisphere)/summer (southern hemisphere) of 2025-2026, after the Reality Reboot.

[mild furnace]

how many players r in 666 at one time

it would be kinda cool seeing the research levels

[fluid delta]

I’m not seeing Beyond’s schedule mentioned in #📓-dev-diary but i could have overlooked it

[proud berry]

It’s not there.

[fluid delta]

idk.. probably a lot

[gusty prawn]

how many metabits I should get for 1 singularity?

[wraith terrace]

Is this the first time you reach singularity?

[gusty prawn]

yes

[wraith terrace]

In that case, don't mind the metabits. You won't be producing many of them yet. Go for it and enjoy the show

[wraith star]

e

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[dull pecan]

Where i can find guides?

[dull pecan]

I'm also not dead

[vernal mist]

Reddit?

[dull pecan]

I don't use that

[vernal mist]

Doesn't mean you can't go to the subreddit and look for ahh

[dull pecan]

Ok thx and by the way when you started this game

[sinful delta]

Living people aren’t dead either.

[vernal mist]

Early Mid-2020. But took a hiatus and probably deleted my save 20+ times.

[vernal mist]

You can't kill something that's already dead.

[dull pecan]

Any reason

[vernal mist]

Stupid reasons. Like not getting 3 when unlocking the Beyond, l,eaving the game open for a long time and spending Darwinium. Y'know...the basics. One time was accidental, this time is a hiatus, probably a few days or weeks...against my will by the way.

[sinful delta]

???

[vernal mist]

And you can't question it and expect a response.

[fluid delta]

Why was it against your will this most recent time?

[vernal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-cat-blehh-cat-conswayo-yoyo-gif-2728106887809527143

[fluid delta]

I don’t get it. A cat isn’t going to prevent you from playing, this game does not require a lot of active use

[sinful delta]

They’re just trying to be annoying.

[karmic pier]

Bugged

[fluid delta]

why do you say it's bugged?

[sinful delta]

Reality engine and the sun-mars-earth garden overlap

[fluid delta]

oh right. ofc.

[karmic pier]

Cause it doesnt let me close in the x

[fluid delta]

close the game and relaunch

[sinful delta]

So we’re ignoring this and that’s the only bug?

You can’t close it

[karmic pier]

Ye👍

[vernal mist]

Oh, I wouldn't say everything here, would I?

[dreamy echo]

yeah that sentence doesn't even make sense

i can see why you got blocked

[sinful delta]

The fuck does “I wouldn’t say everything here” mean

[mild furnace]

man just say u went on vacation

😭

its obvious u didnt have net

so u couldnt play

or somethign along those lines

[fickle oyster]

Im seeing mixed things on autoclicker use. Am I ok as long as I dont use it in the event? I got a clicking task in beyond thats gonna be like 5 minutes of clicking and that just seems ridiculous to me

[fluid delta]

idk the answer, but if you have a tablet, play on that so you can get the 5x ad boost in beyond.. I play on an iPad, and I've never needed to do what you mention

[mild furnace]

i never use autoclickers personally i dont think it makes a dif

[fickle oyster]

im on. web browser rn

[mild furnace]

5 mins of clicking isnt that bad

[fickle oyster]

Ya I wouldnt normally consider it but this mission is ridiculous

[mild furnace]

if it makes u feel better i dont think u get another one of those clicking wuests ever

again

im on ep 14 going on 15 and i havent seen anything like that outside of that one time

so just get it over with and u should be good

[gusty prawn]

is 30 enough?

[fluid delta]

You'll encounter Singularity as you play the game and get the generators that produce the idea currency.

[mild furnace]

i mean u can stilk unlock stuff with metabits in the simulation

id recommend that

like the glitch stuff

then do the actual uograde tree when u cant unlock glitches

this is so agonizingly slow

im never getting to 50 qa

[gray yew]

me neither
dont think ill finish meso in time

Also, @fluid delta?
You were right about the "spamming dark matter missions that only take 15 minutes" thing.
I've been generating a LOT of dark matter because of it.
So thanks!
/gen /pos

[wraith terrace]

As I said, metabits will become interesting later. For the time being, you should progress the main sim

[gray yew]

And prepare for ||many more resets|| in future.

[wraith terrace]

What I heard last, autoclicker use is fine, period. Including events.

[gray yew]

The devs encourage it sometimes.

[wraith terrace]

Ofc. The Steam version is at a serious disadvantage as Steam does not allow or support the kind of ingame ads that the mobile versions have

[gray yew]

Agreed.

[fluid delta]

you're welcome!

[fluid delta]

Yeah, that last one takes ages. The good news (?) is that the Reality Engine revamp will probably happen before you do, so maybe it'll get easier?

(and if you are lvl 50+ and do Legacy Protocol which restarts RE with a 2x bonus, it'll be that much faster when you get back to that point in RE)

[gray yew]

Also I just remembered
Thinking about what semblance might say at the end of the beyond

Maybe it’s the late night talking
But if she said something like
||”Thank you for being on this journey with me.”|| or smthn

I’d just
:)

[nocturne dome]

Good

[mild furnace]

i thought neutrino is getting erased entirely

in the rework

[fluid delta]

Neutrino?

There'll be 2 currencies in RE instead of 1, but I would guess that last node will still be hard to get

[mild furnace]

ye but im saying

how would it be obtainable since the whole point is getting 50qa metabits

but if theres 2 currencies

idk how that would work

[fluid delta]

it would have some other cost related to one (or both?) of the currencies. Idk if it would still take like 2 or 4 months like it does now though

.. and the 2nd time around you would have a 2x boost, so whatever it takes, it would be half that if you do Legacy Protocol (which you would have to be lvl 50+ for to access)

(essentially, RE is getting a single Prestige level, though it's not being called that)

[mild furnace]

ok

i understsnd it s bjt more

when is reality reboot coming out tho

did they give. adate

[fluid delta]

"this Fall", which I think is probably next month based on how the info in dev-diary looks

(ofc bugs in the beta or whatever could push that back so we will have to wait and see)

[gray yew]

So anywhere between September-November. More or less.

[fluid delta]

Probably

[proud berry]

I greatly appreciate your essential help in bringing this model to completion. However, the real world tends to be more complicated than even the most advanced models can predict.

[gray yew]

Yeah, that’s more realistic.
/gen

[drifting gust]

Why is everything more expensive and makes more money in the beta?

Of reality reboot btw

[fluid delta]

I would assume to give them a larger “design space”.. also keep in mind that bc it is a beta, values for things may change between now and release

[drifting gust]

Oh thanks.

[drifting gust]

I just did challenge lvl 3

How did you get that t REX badge thingy? @fluid delta

[steady dune]

Do 500 ranks on Mesozoic valley (Prestige 10)
-# super boring

[drifting gust]

I have only done 40 ranks. i have to play the mesozoic valley i really stopped playing for a while but I guess I'll get atleast a few prestiges

This will take atleast a month

Also, I saw someone do this date and time change to get offline earnings, I dont think it is allowed but just checking, is it allowed?

[steady dune]

No_

[drifting gust]

Ok

[gray yew]

Doing that lands you in Division 666.

[gusty prawn]

so I shouldnt do singularity for now?

[gray yew]

Is this your first time unlocking singularity?

[gusty prawn]

yes

[drifting gust]

Singularity is worth it the first time if you have a lot of money generation

[gray yew]

Get it. You won’t go much further if you don’t.

[drifting gust]

It gets you more metabits the more money

[gusty prawn]

but how much I should get for 1 singularity?

[gray yew]

The ||being forced to reset thing|| doesn’t happen twice.

[gray yew]

Doesn’t unlocking it make you ||reset?||

[gusty prawn]

yea but how much I should get metabits

[drifting gust]

By singularity

[gray yew]

I don’t know. It’s been a REALLY long time since unlocked singularity for the first or second time.

[full mica]

Am i the only one that likes the old beyond sound effects back when it was in beta

[drifting gust]

Like the money you make translates into metabits, which give HUGE boosts if you buy a lot of things over time

With metabits

[gusty prawn]

yea but how much should I get for 1 singularity?

or its whatever

[full mica]

It depends on your money

[drifting gust]

Dont exactly remember, prob 100 metabits which if you buy the singularity and then dont agree to buy it it shows how many you have made

[wraith terrace]

If you have never bought a singularity, you should not even have a metabit income. Like, at all.

So just get the singularity

[gusty prawn]

it shows it just asks me if I want to reset I say no and they show how much metabits I have

[drifting gust]

If you try to buy singularity then click off it shows how many metabits you will make once you reboot

[wraith terrace]

Hm, okay, been a long time for me

But as I said before, the value does not yet matter

Seriously, you won't miss out if you reboot now

[drifting gust]

Yeah it only is useful once you reboot and you can make it back fast with the upgrades so you probably should do it but it has been a long time since I've done it so I dont know if you have enough

Or you have way more than enough to get something worth it

Possibly

[wraith terrace]

Without the first singularity, you can't access all nodes in primary

[gusty prawn]

simulation speed how does it work?

[drifting gust]

Yeah

Highly recommend singularity

[wraith terrace]

Well, it is what it says on the tin. A multiplier to the speed your main sim runs. You want that number to be high

[drifting gust]

Yeah it basically just makes everything _% better from the way I understand

[wraith terrace]

For each reboot, that multiplier increases. As a rule of thumb- a reboot makes sense once the new multiplier is at least twice your current value or if you have enough metabits to spend them on something

[earnest jacinth]

Is simulation level 100 good I think it is

[wraith terrace]

Possibly. Or not. Depends on how high your speed bonus is

[earnest jacinth]

Aight

[wraith terrace]

I was happy with level... 27ish. Was enough to eventually buy all upgrades in the reality engine

[drifting gust]

100 is crazy like how much simulation speed is that???

[earnest jacinth]

Big number so I will send pic

The level it self is 95,745,66

Or 95,745,669,000,000,000 I mean

[gusty prawn]

which constellation is the best?

is there bot or sm where I can ask those things?

[earnest jacinth]

What level are you at

[gray yew]

1: We might have an FAQ for that.
2: There is no one “best” constellation: Just whatever you think would be best for your simulation.

[wraith terrace]

In general: whatever boosts most generators. I would avoid anything that boosts your tap income, as tapping won't do much before long. Eventually, however, you want to get all, so make sure that you have a somewhat regular income of fragments

[proud berry]

I don’t think that the FAQ bot has an answer to that one.

[vernal mist]

No, it's not "somethign along those lines" it's something else

[wraith terrace]

As you can see, the number of reboots is not the most important factor

[mild furnace]

even at almost max u still havent gotten 50 qa

that quest is a slog

[wraith terrace]

Why would I want 5E16?

Which quest?

[mild furnace]

for the upgrade in the tree

its the hardest upgrade and last achievement i think

neutrino expansion

[wraith terrace]

Ooh, this one

Yes well. I have it already. But rn, I couldn't afford it a second time

[vernal mist]

Okay, because I'm annoying and nonsensical? Okay then, formal moral.

[dreamy echo]

why did you immediately send me a friend request 💀

[vernal mist]

Testing if you blocked me

[vernal mist]

Well that was stupid for me to say, because I didn't say context ahh

[dull pecan]

Nice

[vernal mist]

Nice

[rapid island]

Is that normal
I haven't gotten into Mesozoic Prestige 2 (At rank 50)
But I almost finished Beyond E23

I started at the same time

[fluid delta]

what does normal even mean? you make the progress you choose to make

[sullen hill]

Why was the visible art event skipped?

[fluid delta]

Nice!! I’m a little bit behind you in badges (but not a lot, I’m at 381), but my income is higher than you at 4.74B/sec, which seems strange… not that it matters since there’s nothing for either of us to buy until Reality Revamp where I assume you’ll do the Legacy Protocol for that x2, like I will? I assume you are rn at lvl 52 or 53?

[vernal mist]

Wah?

[sullen hill]

Last lap the art event wasn't available and it skipped it, but really

I hope this time it won't skip it

[sullen hill]

It actually happened

[vernal mist]

Didn't say I didn't believe. Just got confushed

[vernal mist]

Hmph, don't know aboot that.

[sullen hill]

The lap restarted without that event

It makes no sense

[fluid delta]

There isn’t a specific known order to events, despite appearances.

[sullen hill]

Ok but they shouldn't skip

[fluid delta]

There is no “skip”, there’s no order. It’s at least somewhat random

and maybe is completely random

[gray yew]

I think there's one.
According to KF('s chart), Human Body has been the event following Philosophy for the past several runs.

Also according to my hunches (but that one is less well-based and researched).

[fluid delta]

I don’t. If there was a pattern, it’d be obvious by now, there’s lots of data. I would guess there’s probably an algorithm they use but randomness is part of that. I’ve even seen them do XYX, where X and Y are specific events.

[vernal mist]

Coincidence?

[fluid delta]

Like I said, I think what events they run are random or at least partly random.

[vernal mist]

They think not.

[fluid delta]

Ok? I mean, CL is gonna run the events they choose to, whether we think it’s a random order or not.

[mild furnace]

hoping for the creepy event

cryptids

[amber canyon]

I've seen a dev message somewhere that says autoclickers are allowed; and encouraged if you have e.g. RSI. Having said that, in android at least, I don't think there's that much benefit (in the 3 main Sims or events).

E.g. SirH at #🏠-general message and attached image.

Obvs autoclickers will help with the Beyond clicking tasks though 😁.

[fickle oyster]

Thanks so much! Very helpful to know 🙂

[lament temple]

Hello @amber canyon! How can I help you?

• Click 1 for gameplay-related questions
• Click 2 for technical questions
• Click 3 for Discord-exclusive questions
• Click 4 for other questions
  -# For FAQs about Reality Reboot Alpha, please see Reality Reboot FAQs.

Frequently Asked Questions • Requested by KF

[amber canyon]

Am sure it used to be in the FAQs ...

[amber canyon]

Don't know. There is a 'normal' event order, but nothing to say the Devs have to stick to it. This link is to the last post I provided with my data 🙂. #💬-cells-chat message

[gray yew]

itll come again
not sure when tho

[fluid delta]

but, only 1 badge. fun doing it once, but i didn't bother doing it again, since it's the same effort as for 3

[prime quarry]

Is there a generator better than the feliform I'm stuck at a E13 glitch coin thing boundary

[amber canyon]

I've only done Cryptids once too. 2nd time round I hadn't realised there was any point to redoing events. And 3rd time I left it late, then got busy with work.

I did ||dodos|| a lot though 😁.

[prime quarry]

Cryptids?

Wut R those

[amber canyon]

Er ... Various generators unlock as you progress through Meso (up to level ||38||).

There's also things to unlock with Logits in the Augmentation Console (and then buy in primary): there's a pinned message about it.

[prime quarry]

Thx

[amber canyon]

It's a mini event (1 badge). Ran for the first time last Halloween.

Cryptids more generally are ... Made up animals ... Probably ... That people think are real ... Like Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster etc..

[sullen hill]

I'm confused

[amber canyon]

My spreadsheet is mainly intended for me and my brain. Sorry!

I can try explain, if you wanna let me know what you're confused about?

[wraith terrace]

It doesn't seem strange at all. It means you have either more generators or a higher multiplier. I have rebooted 29 times, more seemed pointless. And badges, yeah, I don't events if I already have all available badges on 10

[amber canyon]

Hi Suul! I noticed that me you and Sepheria all have relatively low resets in our primary sim. Wonder why? Probably no reason ... Or that we're naturally patiemt players.

[wraith terrace]

Well, I am. And I've been in the game very, very long

Waiting for Beyond to actually release, that was a looooong wait with nothing much to do

Except for Unfold the Stars, or whatever it's called. You know, the first ever event

[amber canyon]

I think I think it's somehow more 'efficient'. No idea why, lol.

I think I played for 3 months or so before beyond had come out (I remember Meso.and 'Coming soon'). Or any events. Probably.

But wandered off for a few.years.

[wraith terrace]

My pause was about a year long. I first started when CTS was early access

[amber canyon]

Oh! Very early! Mine was spring 2020-ish. I was injured and flat in bed for a while.

[lofty galleon]

I ain't dead

[amber canyon]

Never played another Idle game, and don't think I'd want to. Cells seems far better than all the alternatives 🙂.

[wraith terrace]

I have tried other idle games, although those were flash games. None of them kept me interested for long

But we are approaching a #🏠-general discussion. Again 😉

[fluid delta]

hmm, I suppose. I've rebooted less than you (only 17 times, and I remember that one of those was an accident). When I redid Primary for the last time, I maxxed out the best generators and then left it ever since. We have the same Meso, you have more Badges, I can't think of anything else that's different, not that it really matters.

[fluid delta]

heh yeah I agree there

[mild furnace]

did something just happen to the server

was it unavaible just for me?

[fluid delta]

it happened to me too

[gray yew]

maybe me as well
(not entirely sure)

[lyric tundra]

Yeah, this server had a "No text channels available" message for me.

[lusty path]

ok comedian

[gray yew]

They’ve barely begun.
/lh

[hushed rapids]

should i try the alpha thing

[sinful delta]

If you want to

[lusty path]

h

[fickle oyster]

How do I know when Im ready to reset the main simulation? I dont feel that much further than the last reset, but its looking like getting to the next research would take like 30 days

Id also only be able to get one upgrade

[mild furnace]

u reset when u plateau and have a addition multiplier number or when u finally can afford an upgrade

but id recommend do meso beyond on the events to boost ur stuff

the cosmic collector shoul be ur top priotiy rn if everythign else is unlocked

after that the upgrades come easy

[drifting gust]

Is this good

[gray yew]

Yes

[austere rock]

I’m having fun ranking up in MV for my last few prestiges

[wary turtle]

jupiter from temu

[short copper]

I went for alpha testing. Can I talk about it here, or somewhere else? I don’t see a dedicated channel for it.

[proud berry]

#public-alpha-feedback

[short copper]

Thx

[fluid delta]

As you see, you have various nodes that give you big multipliers based on progress in Meso, Beyond, and Explore (events). That’s where you want to focus rn: doing that content. Once you’ve done a lot of that, click/touch on reboot the sim, it should show a big jump in the multiplier.. if it does, reboot at that point. so you can make better progress to getting the last nodes in Reality Engine, you’ll very much want that additional 10x.

[north aurora]

Neat

[gusty prawn]

is fixing glitches good?

[karmic pier]

What's gonna happen when the new update comed

Comes*

Is it gonna restart the progress ?

[gray yew]

Those green things?
Yes.

[gray yew]

Probably not unless you restart if yourself.

*it

[fluid delta]

No, not unless you activate "Legacy Protocol" for the 2x bonus it brings, and even there, it'll only reset Primary and Reality Engine progress

[karmic pier]

Oh so the metabits are gonna change to the new thing (idk what is called )

[fluid delta]

Yes

check out #📓-dev-diary for the info that's out there for non-beta/alpha players, that's what I go by

[wraith terrace]

Yes, but make sure you have reached singularity very fast at least once

[fluid delta]

oh yeah, for the achieve. I still need to do that one

how easy is it to get to Singularity in < 3 minutes, anyway?

[lime yacht]

When you get a high enough multiplier it’s pretty easy as even the amino acids will give you like a million a second

I’ve been able to consistently get a sub 2 min pretty easily

[fluid delta]

ah ok good to know, I'll give it a go, then

[lime yacht]

Yea there is a trick to it
You gotta use the upgrade menu

Or at least that’s what I do

Get as fast as possible to the human and then you can pretty quickly progress from the Neolithic to singularity

[fluid delta]

makes sense, that is how i usually do Primary, it's a lot faster that way when you have Reality Engine done

[lime yacht]

Yep

My fastest time was a 1:48

[fluid delta]

nice!!

[lime yacht]

Now I can’t really get close to it cause there’s so many other upgrades that don’t really matter to getting singularity that gets into my way

Especially when I have to look for the apes and human nodes
Cause then it’s in between all the other nodes

And it wastes like a few seconds looking for em

[fluid delta]

right

[lime yacht]

Yea

[fluid delta]

ok, gonna give it a try now.. i'll let you know how it goes

[lime yacht]

Aight bet

[fluid delta]

eh, already failed. clearly this needs practice

[lime yacht]

Yea

Lemme see if I can get another sub 2min

[karmic pier]

Alr👍

[fluid delta]

i don't think i'll bother for that last achieve, not worth it to me

[lime yacht]

I messed up so bad and got a 2:03

[lime yacht]

What multiplier are you at rn?

[fluid delta]

149882.13x

[lime yacht]

Damn💀

What time did you get?

[fluid delta]

8ish min, but that's mostly bc I had a bad panic attack in the middle and had to pause

(blood pressure goes wierd etc)

[lime yacht]

Damn
You okay tho right?

[fluid delta]

I do have the achieve for < 6 min, so that's good enough for me.

yes, I'm ok.. it's part of my normal life

[lime yacht]

Okay

[lime yacht]

Damn okay

[fluid delta]

heh we all have stuff to deal with.. my medical stuff is mine.. nothing that'll likely kill me in the foreseeable future

[lime yacht]

That’s true
I got exams to deal with💀

[fluid delta]

exactly!!

[lime yacht]

And it’s so fitting how this event is about maths when I wrote my maths paper 2 on Monday lmfao

[fluid delta]

heh indeed!

[lime yacht]

Yea

Maybe one day you’ll get the sub 3mins

[fluid delta]

maybe.. we'll see on the Restart since I'll do that when it comes out

[lime yacht]

Just have to perfect the technique of spamming lmao

[lime yacht]

Alright

[fluid delta]

yep.. but i tend to be bad on twitchy stuff like that, i get distracted by too many things at once

[lime yacht]

Ah okay

[fluid delta]

its ok.. the kind of games I prefer to play don't involve a lot of that.. I mean sure there's great graphics and all, but I don't have to make split-second decisions on it, and I can always pause

[lime yacht]

Now I gotta wait to get 2HDc so I can get the 2 jellyfish upgrades 😭😭💀💀

[fluid delta]

indeed!

[lime yacht]

I kinda like games that test my skill
Gives me a challenge

Though I do get frustrated 😭😭

[fluid delta]

yes, but there's different kinds of skill

[lime yacht]

Almost rage quitted playing GoWR on give me god of war difficulty

[lime yacht]

That is true

[fluid delta]

i can imagine

[lime yacht]

Yea

The stuns in that game are basically game over

[fluid delta]

nodnod

[lime yacht]

Do you have any specific games that you regularly play and enjoy?

[fluid delta]

I play a range of stuff when I'm in the mood, but one game I replay is the original Mass Effect series, which is my personal favorite

[lime yacht]

That’s cool
I’ve heard about Mass Effect before but I’ve never played the game nor watched videos about it

[fluid delta]

if you like a good story, it is amazing. There is a remaster that's usually on sale for very cheap called Mass Effect Legendary, it contains all the DLC, and.. and the 3 games that it's composed of are basically one connected story with the same character.. it does have shooter elements, but the story.. damn, I mean, it's just.. chefskiss

Game mechanics are a bit weak in some regards, and the game graphically shows it's age in many respects, but that honestly doesn't matter

There is a sequel coming in the next few years sometime as well

[lime yacht]

Is it available on a PS5?

[lime yacht]

Cool

[fluid delta]

I think so.. I would need to doublecheck.. but optimally, play it on PC

I know it exists on xbox

[lime yacht]

I do enjoy games with a good story
Like GOW even tho I’m torturing myself playing on the hardest difficulty lol

[lime yacht]

Ahh okay

[fluid delta]

Play it on PC if you can. You can always replay later with mods if you want

[lime yacht]

I don’t have a PC😭

[fluid delta]

PC will be better graphically unless you have an old PC

aww... sorries

[lime yacht]

Yea
I’m a mobile player

[fluid delta]

I will check if it exists on PS one sec

[lime yacht]

Been one most my life

Only recently got a ps5 for Christmas

Last year

[fluid delta]

Yes, it works on PS4 (and therefore PS5)

[lime yacht]

Aight cool

Ill check it out after my exams are done

[fluid delta]

it should play really well on that, since the original trilogy came out ages ago

Yes.. after exams, if you're like many people it will suck you in and not let you go. There is romance in it, if that interests you. Nothing too explicit, but.. yeah. Lotsa feels

[lime yacht]

Alright cool

[fluid delta]

Don't look up cheats or spoilers in advance.