💬-cells-chat

[proud berry]

They boost the Primary Simulation based on your progress in the other simulations.

[simple sorrel]

Those will still be available to purchase, all current upgrades in the prestige tree will still be there to purchase etc. it’ll just look different

[gray yew]

Well I’m on Episode 25, might as well get it at this stage. Would mean I could collect more Dark Matter, especially when there were missions to do.

Might take me a few weeks to get the 75 Darwinium.

[wraith terrace]

Prolly not really worth it at this point, especially if you're hard pressed on Darwinium

Don't overestimate the use of dark matter- without a decent amount of cards you won't spend it anyway. And for reference- is settled on getting all cards on l6

[gray yew]

Yeah, but even then it’s valuable for getting cards up. 6 becomes harder over time, especially now that I’m finished with the ||nebulas|| and that.
I also like to save it for the older generators. Don’t get me wrong, they’re nigh-useless at this stage, but I do know that, at some point in a future reset, I’ll need to rely on them again. So every now and then, like when I have the Matter and/or if I’ve finished all the requirements, I level up some of the older ones. That way I’ll have an easier time the next time round.
Plus it just feels slightly embarrassing to have reached this stage of the current Beyond without having unlocked all the Mission slots yet.

[cosmic fossil]

Bazinga

[wraith terrace]

@gray yew I am a completionist myself and I understand.

[wide trail]

how do people get through the events so fast? even with 4x boost almost the whole time and long afk times I usually don’t even hit completion lvl 1(?) or max it out.

[simple sorrel]

Badge boosts

[gray yew]

Short answer: Darwinium.

Long answer: Having lots of Darwinium lets you do things like max out the booster and, even better, using the time warp feature like crazy. (BTDubs just in case you didn’t know, the time warp lets you gain an hour’s worth of currency in just a few seconds.)
So having lots of Darwinium lets you spam boosters, and spamming boosters leads to people getting through events really, really fast. This includes challenge mode, also.

[gray yew]

Those too, I guess.

[wide trail]

ah I see, ty. :p

[warm hill]

Hi

[simple sorrel]

Ello

[manic tulip]

One way to pass the time when refueling overdrive

[amber canyon]

Short afk times are much better.

In most cases (with x4 boost) and double offline earnings) you'll be able to afford the next upgrade in 5-15 mins (less if you have badges).

Buying your next upgrade asap means all your production after that is higher. So you can afford the next upgrade quicker etc.

So - yes - afk as much as you can; but not for long periods: log on as often as you can to buy stuff then close it for another (short) afk period.

[wraith terrace]

Erm, is there something I missed about afk times? As far as I know, production in all inactive sims is reduced to... um, 30%, I believe. So, getting the 2x bonus at logging in just means you lose a bit less production than you would have.

There are reality upgrades to improve offline production but without them, afk = bad.

And isn't there a limit on how often you can use time warp?

[slim ermine]

i try cell to cingularity exploration butt cant do nothing.. i have play space 100% and couple 2 little less

aa, its coing

[swift sapphire]

bob the builder

[mild furnace]

i slacked for 1 day and i got set back almost 30 places

[amber canyon]

On mine, the 32% thing doesn't apply to the events afaik. Not checked for a while though ... Might have changed.

I don't use time warp (unless I'm really close to the top 10 rank border).

[mild furnace]

@amber canyon

what do i do bro 😭

id have to wait like 2 more weeks for this to fill

it does not seem right

[pliant orchid]

When is the next dev diary 😭

Been like 4 months

[amber canyon]

Same as always in this game (iOS / android).

Buy the most efficient thing (don't really worry about the goals).

Use boosts wherever you can.

Collect as much Darwinium as you can (daily rewards, cube synthesizer, missions etc) and get stars.

Keep missions going (I did mainly stars) and collect free stars.

Wait.

It def didn't take me 2 weeks, and I don't remember others commenting that this was especially long (although the last goal of a level will be the hardest). So all I can think is you're not doing one of the things (or are on Steam? I forget again ...) 🤷.

You'd probably find it a lot easier to see what the most efficient thing was if you switched to scientific notation, rather than the notation using qi etc.. I do anyway

[wraith terrace]

No change I am aware of. Seems I got it wrong- I just checked and indeed there seems to be no production penalty in events

At least, the math mathes.

As for time flux- you can use it up to 4 times in short order. I'm pretty sure the uses recharge, but idk how fast.

[amber canyon]

That 32% def causes confusion: first when people discover that it exists; then when people discover it doesn't apply to events.

[proud berry]

It was six months between the two most recent.

[swift heron]

when is the next game update

the last actual update (even if it was small) was on may 27th

the trading cards on steam do NOT count as an update

im starting to reach some of the end game stuff

finishing beyond episodes 22 and 23 in only a few weeks

and reaching prestige 3 in mesozoic valley

and i almost have all artifact upgrades in the logit store

[strange wing]

Idk when🤷‍♂️

[swift heron]

i understand that the reality engine reboot can take a long time but atleast give us some filler content while we wait

after a few weeks im gonna be done with the beyond sim and all logit store upgrades

which means the only thing i have left are old exploration events and mesozoic valley prestiges

[proud berry]

Autumn.

[swift heron]

whar

[strange wing]

You can try alpha version if you want #public-alpha-feedback

[azure turtle]

I mean, if devs are focusing on reality reboot, I don't think they have much time to create any filler content

[swift heron]

will the reality engine reboot reset everyone's progress in the main sim?

[proud berry]

No.

[azure turtle]

Nope

[swift heron]

i think i can get that last very expensive upgrade before the rework if i can get enough mesozoic valley prestiges

so far i only have 3 prestiges and 20 extinctions

each prestige takes like a week or 2

i've never ever bought ANY type of geodes

i depend solely on events leaderboard

[swift heron]

probably the main reason why prestige 0 took me a whole year

[final spindle]

have you used the free geodes?

[swift heron]

yes

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[dreamy echo]

you have anything else to say?

[sinful delta]

he literally doesn’t have a personality here anymore

just “I am not dead”

[amber canyon]

Anybody know why that's what he posts?

[sinful delta]

I don’t know

He used to talk here a lot

[amber canyon]

Yeah ... I remember seeing him around.

Ah well, it isn't obnoxious, just weird 🤷.

[sinful delta]

Yep

For it to be obnoxious he’d just need to spam it occasionally

[proud berry]

Content drought.

[fluid delta]

If I lost my account somehow and had to do it all over again, I would just buy a month of infinity pass, and use it frequently. Pretty sure I could do all the content in the game if I had a month and played every day... except maybe that one node (Neutrino Expansion)

[fluid delta]

"Custom" I find is way more intuitive. M (million), B (billion), T (trillion), then it goes AA, BB, CC etc, then AAA, BBB, etc. All by 1000. Easy to compare.

[thick river]

is there any release date for the next update for smth like beyond

[proud berry]

No.

The Reality Reboot will release to the public in the autumn; there is no exact date.

[sinful delta]

the beyond was out for 3.5 years

[fluid delta]

Will it offer anything new to progress, for those that have the existing Reality maxxed out?

[proud berry]

Many things.

[fluid delta]

Good! I look forward to it then!

[amber canyon]

I did that from about 1/3 of the way through to getting Neutrino Expansion. Def helped a lot ...

[vivid junco]

Oh,it is too difficult to update in beyond.

[fluid delta]

Yeah.. now that I'm caught up, for each event (or the rare Beyond addition) I'll just load it up with the boosts from ads (I play on iPad) while it sits beside me and I'm also on my computer, so I can easily ignore them until I'm ready.

[swift heron]

my username's markrafat4 if anyone wants to add me

it feels boring playing exploration events without seeing any form of hinting at multiplayer other than the leaderbaord

[simple sorrel]

I added you

[quasi ivy]

hey kris.... we might have to go from cell to singularity

[proud berry]

Who’s Kris?

[sinful delta]

pretty sure from deltarune

[strange lark]

Yeah

[mild furnace]

i fully gave up on tryna place high on the event

i slacked for 1 day and lost my 60th place 😭

[swift heron]

i havent even reached 1k science points and im already top 25

[mild furnace]

bro how

[swift heron]

ok

[mild furnace]

i literally have 2.5k science

[swift heron]

dont play the event instantly

[mild furnace]

[swift heron]

play the event after a day or 2 since it started

unless you dont have badge boosts

i only have 45% boost on this event

[mild furnace]

why does starting late boost

[swift heron]

because it puts you in divisions with people who are playing more casually

people in low divisions are constantly racing for top 10

[fluid delta]

sure!

[mild furnace]

but that seems extremely counterintuitive

why does starting later put u at a better chance of getting top 10

[simple sorrel]

💔😭

[mild furnace]

when the ppl that start early and grind get lower ranks

it seems quite stupid

hell cjoh

[swift heron]

because almost everyone that starts early has like 200% badge boost

[mild furnace]

[fluid delta]

I agree. Besides, starting later means you need to do less!

[mild furnace]

im literally clawing for scraps cuz i started early😭

i have NO BADGES

well like 6 total

[fluid delta]

heh yeah don’t do that unless you don’t care about the score, and are just accumulating badges

[swift heron]

what's your username in cts?

[fluid delta]

kontrin

[swift heron]

added you

[mild furnace]

im just tryna farm alot of logits

cuz i dont have anything unlocked

only capy

[fluid delta]

fair!

[fluid delta]

what platform do you play on? Steam on PC? iPadOS? something else?

[swift heron]

Steam

[fluid delta]

never tried on Steam. Do you get the ads? (for the bonuses)

[swift heron]

no

i have to spend dwarnium on basically everything

[fluid delta]

dang! do you have an iPad? The bonuses give 4x speed

[swift heron]

i dont have an ipad

i was a mobile player for like 3 years

but switched to steam

on mobile i could only open it 2 times a day at most but with steam i can open the game at any time

[fluid delta]

what? really? that’s crazy! I can open it as much as I want to!

on my ipad

were you on android? is there even a client for android? idk

[swift heron]

yes

[fluid delta]

hmm. maybe that’s why. strange that there is that difference between Android and iOS / iPadOS.

[sinful delta]

Wdym by 2 times a day

[swift heron]

i used to play on my mom's phone

[sinful delta]

oh

[swift heron]

so i could only open the game after school before she goes to work and after she comes back from work before i go to sleep

[fluid delta]

ah gotcha

[sinful delta]

damn

[swift heron]

probably one of the main reasons mesozoic valley prestige 0 took me years 💀

i've been playin since 2021 and i still haven't 100% the game

[fluid delta]

what is nice with mobile is you can close it, come back X minutes later, watch the ad (which are often very short) and you get more whatever than if you had it open the whole time.. and as well you have the x2/x4/x5 multiplier if you watch one ad (for x2/x3) or >4 ads (for x4/x5) at the start of the event or Explore or Meso, whatever. Maybe move the game to your phone or tablet?

[swift heron]

i dont have my own phone or tablet
only a pc

[fluid delta]

oh ok. well, the good thing is that C2S is a “fluff” (idle) game so if you want something really fun, you have the pc to play “real” games like MMOs and such 🙂

[lapis storm]

meso valley is weird

i just try logging on for the geode

and i get like 2 a day idk

[fluid delta]

once you reach prestige 50 10, there’s no point to getting them, I think?

[chrome thistle]

Hey, does anyone know how/where to find the gecko? I’ve been looking for it and a few other ones for a while now

[proud berry]

Only the generators (circles) and trophies (diamonds) appear in the garden.

[chrome thistle]

I was starting to think so, this makes me so sad cause I love geckos

[sinful delta]

“prestige 50”

[simple sorrel]

😭

[fluid delta]

heh. oops. Prestige 10 is max. Each prestige is 50 levels. Got 'em backwards, lol

[simple sorrel]

lol

[wraith terrace]

But of course there is. At least, if you want to max all trait cards.

[fluid delta]

Good point, I hadn’t thought of that. Thanks!

[ebon spoke]

[warm hill]

Doge

[swift heron]

beyond sim gives the least boost to the main sim out of all the other simulations

since it only has 28 episodes so far

while there are tons of badges and mesozoic extinctions

[proven ridge]

I’m on iPad

What should i work on ?

1. Quark inhancerñ

2. Cósmic collector

3. Event explorer

4. Cretacious colector

5. Nanobots

[strange wing]

I suggest you should buy the node that increases the simulation speed only. The config, expand thing is no

[proven ridge]

Witch one

Annoying autocorrector

[strange wing]

The Quark Enhancer, you can buy cretaceous collector, event explorer, cosmic collector too. But not much effective because you need to increases other simulation rank and get more badge

[proven ridge]

Increase which rank beond or cretacious

Or main simulation

[strange wing]

Meso sim and beyond sim

[proven ridge]

Ok

Which is most useful

[strange wing]

Meso should be the easiest, next up is beyond. Or get more badge from event

[obsidian rock]

is there a particular artifact i should get

[cosmic anchor]

I'd say that one. See it. That one. Right there

[gray yew]

I think we have a guide for this. Sadly, I don’t know how to do FAQs.

[amber canyon]

Same. This division ... No chance of me putting that much effort in 🙁 ... Just the badges I guess 🙂

[mild furnace]

780 science…

while im fighting for 100 with 2.4k is crazy😭

next time im stsrting with 1 day left

[swift heron]

you need to have alot of badge boosts and open the game frequently to finish it in only 1 day tho

[mild furnace]

i finished this one in 1 day

[swift heron]

bruhhhh im never gonna reach top 10

[strange wing]

You can do it, if you try hard!

[swift heron]

there are only a few hours left in the event

hopefully the challenge level 2 first quests give alot of science points

[amber canyon]

What div are you in / when did you start? I started ~2 hours ago.

[mild furnace]

division 22 i started literally a few mins after the event started cuz i didnt know this weird division rule existed

[amber canyon]

Ah yeah.

Divs are groups of 1000 (so you're Def not playing against all ~220,000 playing this event!) and you join the one that's active when you make your first collection.

I tend to start as late as possible (so I can play for as little time as possible) while still get all the badges. And play often enough that I got a decent chance of getting top 10.

[amber canyon]

Just checked my notes: last time I played this event I got 3rd with 2406 science (starting 8h15m before the end (div 282). Just unlucky this time I guess. Also, a lot fewer divs this time than last time (finished 19 May), so that's slightly interesting.

[frosty current]

bruh youre so lucky youre in top 25 im still fighting to get out of top 250 😭

[minor bear]

I just thought of smth

A pig without 3.1415etc is ~9.8

[fluid delta]

Aww. We are in the same Div though! Random chance but still! I’m at #1!

[amber canyon]

Something weird just happened ... I didn't move position (or maybe just 1 up, but the amount needed to get top 10 just dropped by ~3500. 🤷.

[fluid delta]

Close your game (force close if on mobile) and relaunch it. That’ll force it to reconnect and get the most recent info from the leaderboard for your division. Sometimes it can’t get the info bc network glitch and that’s when you get wierdness like this, where it displays the wrong position.

[amber canyon]

Yup, just done that. Still showing the 'new' stuff. Which seems much more likely tbh.

Maybe I just saw some cheaters being shunted to div 666 in real time (and replaced with some of those 'placeholder' players?).

Welp, got my 3 badges, went to Stage 2, now in tenth.

[fluid delta]

Yep, could very well be, I hadn’t thought of that. On stage 3 myself, i think i can keep #1 position, though you never know

[swift sapphire]

fack this seever

ive been banned in three already

ill uh

speedrun banning 😄

https://tenor.com/view/twenty-century-fox-meme-gfy-go-fuck-yourself-meme-get-lost-gif-26260205

https://tenor.com/view/vro-pmo-ngl-gif-10268498521266426722

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-64-throw-gtfo-mario-luigi-gif-13057159616476505895

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-industrial-complex-rain-world-pmo-gif-6100441883164100708

go fack urself yall

[frosty current]

sir r u ok

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-64-throw-gtfo-mario-luigi-gif-13057159616476505895

[swift sapphire]

call a mod

i want to get banned

and im on meth

[frosty current]

do u have a banning fetish

[final spindle]

i forgot how do modcall

[swift sapphire]

yes

CALL THE FUCKING MIDS

[frosty current]

no

[swift sapphire]

methmethmethmethmeth

meth

meth

meth

meth

[frosty current]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

[swift sapphire]

methmethmeth

crackcrackcrack

crack

[frosty current]

lmao

[final spindle]

can we go to #🏠-general now

[swift sapphire]

geneal

[final spindle]

actually nvm

[swift sapphire]

crack

[final spindle]

dont go to gen

oh

[swift sapphire]

wait etoh

[proud berry]

Bloody hell.

[final spindle]

etoh

[swift sapphire]

call mods

[lament silo]

Breh I have to play more meso for getting birds

[frosty current]

lfggg

[amber canyon]

Well, gg to the two people I was scrapping with for tenth in div 220. That was down to the last seconds!

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[crisp basalt]

What can i get here?

[sinful delta]

Giant squid

[frosty current]

do i buy this or is it a waste of

nvm i did

[mild furnace]

@amber canyon so the strat is to just wait and not play the event till the last day?

[fluid delta]

That gives you your best chance of getting into the top 10, yes

[mild furnace]

that sucks alot i really like playing the events

but 3k science and only place 96 is deadly

[amber canyon]

In terms of ranking I'm not sure it matters after the first day. I just make the play time as short as possible cos I've played 78 events now, so there's not much exciting in them for me anyway more (aside from collecting things).

What I'd recommend is starting early enough to make sure you get all 3 badges. Avoid starting the first day if possible. Start at a time that maximises your active play time relative to others in your division: e.g. if you start just before you go to sleep for 8 hours and then have 8 hours of work/school, you'll be 16 hours behind your competitors and you might as well have started when you had free time after work/school.

[amber canyon]

It can still be exciting playing for a shorter time: my slightly-under-3k was right down to the wire for 10th/11th/12th ...

(I had 120% badge boost for that money event and was not expecting that level of competition when I started this morning 👀).

[amber canyon]

Having said that, def recommend engaging with and enjoying the events - especially first time round when they're new and shiny to you.

Just think of me as an old crusty min-maxer in this context (and others 🫣).

[fluid delta]

It matters, bc if you want top 10, and you start on day 4, you only need to be attentive in the game on day 4, but if you start day 2, you need to be attentive day 2, 3, and 4, and if you slack off at any point, unless you have lots of badges or spend darwinium, you won’t make that progress in the ranks, back.

So, day 4 means less effort required 🙂

[amber canyon]

Yeah, I guess I'm trying to clarify the attentive-relative-to-others thing. Like if it finishes on a Thurs and you can't play on Thurs but can play lots on Wed, you'd probably be better starting in Wed.

In an absolute-level-of-effort, getting 3 badges and being to the rank you want 5 mins before the event end is 👩‍🍳😘.

I am def a fan of me being attentive for the shortest reasonable period ...

[fluid delta]

heh yep. managed to get #1 on 188 this last, and that was me starting on saturday morning, finishing early aft and then slacking until sunday afternoon, dropped from #4 to #11 and managed to get up to first place maybe 8am this morning, that was nice!

[amber canyon]

Also I've played 78 events now ... 👀 ... How did that happen?!?

[amber canyon]

You managed to hold 1st in the end? 🎉🎆🏆!

[fluid delta]

heh. I’ve played roughly 100, maybe 120. Not sure since I didn’t finish some of them really early on

[fluid delta]

I did! Idk if the former #1 logged in this morning or if they did, probably didn’t bother playing this morning

[dire notch]

The pollination exploration event is the best exploration event ever.

[amber canyon]

Quite a few of the people I have 'friended' seem to have done basically all the events and got all 3 badges in them. My mind boggles!

[fluid delta]

I do wish they’d add events that have decision trees, where there would actually be some strategy in the approach. AI has a little bit, kinda.. But I would like to see multiple paths to victory, maybe some complexity there.

[amber canyon]

Yeah ... You can def play better by trying to collect the things that are needed for upgrades (if you're into tapping) but the strats are generally limited.

[fluid delta]

heh yep. But when you are new, it can take some time to figure things out. I remember stalling early in Explore, came back to it later, the accumulated progress got me past the hump… but probably I had missed something obvious, i don’t even remember at this point, it was like a year ago

I almost never tap except at the beginning of events when you have to

[amber canyon]

Def towards the top for me. Not at the top ... But close 🙂.

[amber canyon]

I do if it looks like it could nudge me to an upgrade. Or if fighting for 10th (lol). But, yeah, mainly the first bit is the main time for tapping to get progress up and running.

[dire notch]

What is your username?
Mine is “ScienceTea25”

[amber canyon]

I think some people don't like the events with multiple currencies because of the decisions ... Not sure how widespread that is though.

[dire notch]

I usually tap just to generate just one currency at the beginning of the event and then just let the nanobots do their job.
This is helpful, especially at higher challenge levels

[fluid delta]

Indeed! Let the computer work for you and not the other way around 🙂

[amber canyon]

Cool user name 🙂. Also tidy badge collection 👍. And nice progress generally 👍.

[amber canyon]

This is me 🙂

[simple sorrel]

Are those equal signs..

[dire notch]

This one looks different

[simple sorrel]

Wdym

[dire notch]

The simulation XP thing

[simple sorrel]

Oh yea I’m an alpha tester

[amber canyon]

The reality reboot Def looks like it's gonna change things up (I tested a bit a month ago on a new account, but not since then ... Saving it for when it's official).

[dire notch]

Ok that’s interesting

[fluid delta]

Add me if you would like

[fluid delta]

i am looking forward to it!

[simple sorrel]

I added you

[amber canyon]

Seems like a lot of science!

[simple sorrel]

I had over 6k science in the money event

[amber canyon]

Not reset the science right between events? Huh ...

Think I'm at 0 science atm ... As I'd expect ... Not having started Bees yet.

[simple sorrel]

You reset science every event

[amber canyon]

Jonathan's / ScienceTea's science tho ...

[simple sorrel]

Yes.. bc they’ve already beat lvl 1 of the event

[amber canyon]

Oh! I forgot that bees had a lot more science than e.g. money 🤦

[dire notch]

I’m going to finish level two

[simple sorrel]

Dang I beat lvl 1

[gritty abyss]

Yooo guys how to get more than 1qa metabits

[fluid delta]

buy the stuff + time

[sullen rover]

Hey guys. Who wants to add me as friend to check each other to compete in friend list on events? Ign: Gringote C2A0F035823605FF

[gritty abyss]

Time ?

[proud berry]

Patience.

[gritty abyss]

Bruh

[fluid delta]

Yes. Buy the stuff and wait. The last node will take weeks/months.

[gritty abyss]

:<

[fluid delta]

.. but there's a revamp that's the next release of the game, so maybe it'll be different then?

(I haven't played the beta, I only play release)

[wraith terrace]

I don't think that getting to a point comparable to current "complete" state will be very much faster

[tame flint]

guys

why is buying closed in alpha

[clever sierra]

I guess in case we ever get reset, our purchases would disappear

[tame flint]

alr thanks

[tame flint]

also how do I return to the beta since my progress is gone

[sinful delta]

#public-alpha-feedback

[burnt roost]

Monthly $12.99 is not cool. Too expensive.

[fluid delta]

Fortunately, spending that is totally unnecessary. One single month of it can get you nearly all of the content completed, if you play the game frequently.. but again, it’s optional.

[proud berry]

The additional 300 Darwinium normally costs $7.99, so the Infinity Pass alone is technically only $5.00.

[drifting raven]

Yo guys did the Reality Reboot update came yet

[gray yew]

No.

[drifting raven]

Dead server

[clever sierra]

Also no

[drifting raven]

Then what is yes

[mild furnace]

ppl r sleeping??😭

[drifting raven]

That's a no for me

[gritty abyss]

The reality restart or wtv?

[mild furnace]

chat

shold i hold off on the event still

should

[amber canyon]

You're enjoying playing them? Go ahead! Farm those bees ... 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝

[mild furnace]

i am i just started them

division 144 shoud be a good spot

[dire notch]

I’m at level 5

[wraith terrace]

Dude, do your thing. You will most likely have a hard time reaching top 10 no matter how high you division number. At least, until you have each badge at least 4 or 5 times

[true vigil]

honestly im suprised beyond doesnt run into floating point issues considering the distances

[dull terrace]

How to get the alpha version

[proud berry]

Follow the instructions here #public-alpha-patchnotes message

[dull terrace]

Without steam

[proud berry]

It tells you how to do it on all platforms.

[dull terrace]

Ok

Thx

[swift heron]

i added you in cts
my username's markrafat4

ok uhhh this has to be cheating right?

[dire notch]

I didn’t accelerate time

[swift heron]

?

[dire notch]

I just used the time warp function

[fluid delta]

Not sure what to say. profile name = sepheria … you have part of the name covered up so I can’t tell if you misspelled that.

[swift heron]

i typed "sepheria" into the search box and it still didn't work

[fluid delta]

idk what to say. you are markrafat4, yeah?

[swift heron]

yea

[fluid delta]

I can try removing you then readding you and see if it lets me? Do you want me to try?

[swift heron]

ok

[fluid delta]

ok just did it. try it on your end

[swift heron]

done

[mild furnace]

im 20th place so far and im literally not even doing anything

i might actually be able to do top 10

ive never gotten those beyond packs

[simple sorrel]

I’m in 1st

[mild furnace]

what division r u

[simple sorrel]

I think 50?

[mild furnace]

damn wtf so early

[simple sorrel]

I’m on lvl 6 already

[mild furnace]

WTF

[simple sorrel]

It’s hard

[mild furnace]

ye bro im like halfway thru lvl 1😭

[simple sorrel]

x32 production but x1028 cost

That’s how bad lvl 6 is

[mild furnace]

i dont even wanna imagine that sounds awful

thats like playing beyond from 0

endless waiting

[simple sorrel]

It is awful, 12 thousand smth for the 1st flower💔😭

I had to tap forever

[mild furnace]

im not even tapping anymore

just 4x production and doubke with ads

tapping is for suckers

[simple sorrel]

I had to, to get the first flower 💀

12 thousand pollen

[mild furnace]

oh wait u has to tap 12k…

no nanobots?

[simple sorrel]

Yes…

[mild furnace]

they help big time

[simple sorrel]

I don’t use them tbh

[mild furnace]

why theyre amazinf for events

i only use them for events tbh

[simple sorrel]

Bc I forget they exist

[mild furnace]

lol okay

also

this is actually so fucking agonziing

950 qi

its been like

almost 4 days

its dreadfully slow

[swift heron]

4 days for beyond is NOT slow 💀

mesozoic valley prestige0 took me a whole year

[mild furnace]

it is slow as fuck when i need another week

[mild furnace]

im still early so it aint bad

im on mezo 17

doing about 1 a day

or 1 every 2 days

[swift heron]

after meso 45 each 1 took me like 3 weeks or a whole month

[mild furnace]

thats ass but isnt it lightning fast after the first prestige

i remember seeing some guy go from prestige 1 to 10 in like 2 days

[swift heron]

bro after prestige 1 i got prestige 2 in only 1 week

[simple sorrel]

Buy planets, especially the new ones you just got. They increase your tap amount

[swift heron]

that's 50 extinctions in 1 week

[mild furnace]

what exactly happens when u prestige how big of a multiplier do u get

[mild furnace]

i sm

its just slow

[fluid delta]

i did the event this time but only completed it, i got stuff to do over the next couple days, i can’t babysit CtS 🙂

[mild furnace]

i tried to boost but only went from 1qa to 10

[fluid delta]

i find that there’s usually planets where it makes more sense than others, usually every few where you level the card (or whatever they’re called)

[simple sorrel]

Depends on what lvl your traits are

[fluid delta]

are traits the cards? i’m hazy on the precise terms

[simple sorrel]

Yes

I will say tho

If a generator is making money instantly, then upgrading the speed trait will increase the payout instead

@mild furnace

[mild furnace]

oh thats nice to knwo

dark matter is so fucking bad to get

missions r ok

but im constantly low

mutagen is alot easier cuz u get 200-300 per geode

and slmetimes when upgrading

[simple sorrel]

I was too for an extremely long time but it hits a point where you’ll start getting more

[fluid delta]

yeah.. once you are all caught up, spending only on the last one, getting the traits up to 7 or 8 means that when the next explore releases, you can almost ignore the first several stars/galaxies/etc

[mild furnace]

also constellations

[simple sorrel]

You beat all 30 levels?

[mild furnace]

what dk i even co

what is the bezt one

[simple sorrel]

What you have unlocked

[mild furnace]

wasnt 28 thr max

[fluid delta]

28 is current. i don’t touch beta.

[simple sorrel]

No.. in beta it isn’t

[simple sorrel]

Ah ok

[mild furnace]

uhhh idk i have access to all the basic constellations

[simple sorrel]

Well it gets to a point where you’ll need to unlock all of them

That’s just how it ends up

[mild furnace]

star fragment things r rare

[fluid delta]

that’s another thing: only unlock what you really need.. which is only a few.

[mild furnace]

do thr blue star packs give a good amount

[fluid delta]

i never needed to unlock all of them, i only did recently bc why not, i had a lot of fragments to spare.

[simple sorrel]

Yes you’re guaranteed to get at least 3 I believe

[mild furnace]

this is ass 🔥

[fluid delta]

the one that adds a x1 to research is sweet though

[simple sorrel]

Yes.. it’s saving me now that I maxed out the beyond

[simple sorrel]

Use your research to get stars and constellation fragments

[mild furnace]

i might wanna invest in that one its currently my only supply of dark matter

[fluid delta]

heh i almost never speed research, there’s no point

[mild furnace]

thats what im doing

[fluid delta]

.. except when actually in a new explore

[simple sorrel]

I mean, I’m inpatient lol

[simple sorrel]

That’s all you can really do until you leave the solar system ngl

[fluid delta]

lol i get it, what levels are your traits on your highest star?

[mild furnace]

when is that cuz im hardstuck saturn

i still have neptune uranus

what about pluto

[simple sorrel]

Oof like my most upgraded?

[mild furnace]

so atleast 4 more beyond episodes till i leave

ughhh

[simple sorrel]

Pluto is where you’ll start to make a lot of stardust passively

Plutos time is slow tho

[fluid delta]

yes.. well i assume they are the same on your furthest right galaxy

[mild furnace]

i hope cuz rn 9.3 qi in a whopping 40 mins almost seems like a joke

[simple sorrel]

Yea idk if I can show you tho but I’ll find it, what’s the latest thing you unlocked?

[mild furnace]

it makes an insultingly low amount

per sec

[simple sorrel]

Who?

[mild furnace]

saturn

[simple sorrel]

Saturn honestly pmo

[mild furnace]

REAL and fucking jupiter its not as bad at only 4 mijs

but saturn dawg

why do u need 40 fucking minutes to make essentially nothing

the moons r infinitely better

[fluid delta]

is it allowed to show it even though it is spoilery for people who haven’t done 28 yet?

[mild furnace]

i havent even unlocked enceladus yet

[simple sorrel]

Well again, I’m ahead of you so I have unreleased content so I will get in trouble but if it’s a star or smth that is public then I can show you I’ll just need to put a spoiler on it

[fluid delta]

it is public, one sec i will share here

it’s wierd, Messier 87 is the best to advance, even though Quasar 3C comes after. First time I saw that in an Explore.. as you see they are 7s.

End of 27 was Andromeda, which were at 7s when 28 started, which really helped. It’s 8s now, bc why not.

[simple sorrel]

Ohhh ok I see where it is, I wasn’t sure what was public

I’m look now

[fluid delta]

Yeah, one reason I prefer staying in release cadence, plus avoiding bugs

[simple sorrel]

Being honest, I’ve never had bugs until I went from beta to alpha

[fluid delta]

interesting, it does track that alpha would be worse

[simple sorrel]

Yea, bc alpha is the testing phase before beta

It goes: Alpha, Beta then Public

[fluid delta]

right. or with some games, alpha = beta, and beta = paid early access, lol

(i hate that trend)

[simple sorrel]

Luckily I’ve never seen that lol

Anyways

[fluid delta]

it’s very common on PC. Path of Exile 2, for one instance. Corepunk another. Many games on Steam

[simple sorrel]

Ohhh ig that’s why I don’t see it then, I don’t play on pc

[fluid delta]

nice! you have leveled them to 9s. i haven’t bothered leveling past ones to 9s, though likely some are ready, just have to spend… but why bother, no advantage and you expend the stuff

[fluid delta]

what do you play on instead? console?

[simple sorrel]

I just upgrade when ever I’m able to

[simple sorrel]

Yea

[fluid delta]

I just strategically spend the.. whatever it's called, the thing I have 482,485 of above

[fluid delta]

There's some good games on console. PC gives you a lot more options, but you probably already know that.

[proud berry]

This game is not on console.

[fluid delta]

Yes, but it like isn't obviously the only device they have. Phone and Tablet are the other options (I play on an iPad)

[frosty current]

how do yall get to top 100 im still stuck omg

[simple sorrel]

Badge boosts

[simple sorrel]

Yea.. but pc it’s also very expensive

[fluid delta]

Well.. kinda. The games usually aren't, where on the PS5 or Xbox they are, and you can also do way more than just play games with it. So.. tradeoffs. If you already need a computer for stuffs, especially if that stuff needs a GPU, then you probably already have a gaming setup at that point 🙂

[simple sorrel]

Depends on ram too but yea

[simple sorrel]

Damn

[verbal shadow]

oh yeah, its been 5 years

[dull terrace]

Can someone tell me why when I clicked the button to become an alpha tester I did not get the notification after some time

[sinful delta]

#public-alpha-feedback

[gray yew]

remeember to spoiler plz

[static gorge]

Night

Sorry

[mild furnace]

do any of the events also change

[mild furnace]

maybe delete it then

cuz mods might see it and ban regardless

[gray yew]

No

[amber canyon]

Looks to me like there's a silver 'missing'. By which I mean, not available till E29.

Messier 87 (and lower generators) benefits from the most recent silver, and Quasar 3C doesn't have the equivalent.

My beyond... 'Only' 5 more Messier 87 to collect to get to 300 (and get that x3 bonus ... I think ... It's been a while).

[austere vessel]

Hey yall

How to get all 6 sharks easily

I'm Tryna get all steam achivements for this game

[amber canyon]

Every ||24 hours after collecting the previous daily rewards a new one will be available to collect||. I think a shark is available every ||14 'days'|| until you have them all.

[austere vessel]

But is there a faster way

[obsidian rock]

no

[austere vessel]

So changing time doesn't work anymore

?

Also waiting is a staple

[vague adder]

Not sure how to ask but can I get some @dev or @mod support? CustomerService (via email) suggested one of you could maybe help, as they are having technical issues fixing my issue. Please DM me.

[amber canyon]

You could put it in the bug reporting channel as a bug? I'd imagine you're more likely to get useful input there.

[austere vessel]

Thx necrid

[rancid anvil]

Im leaving

[simple sorrel]

Wdym

[fluid delta]

A silver Trait? Yeah, that makes sense to me.

[fluid delta]

300? x3 bonus? I don’t get what you mean.

[fluid delta]

Change? No. But new ones get added sometimes.

[final spindle]

c

[amber canyon]

When you rank up a generator by buying more of them, it gives you a x3 income boost. Doesn't it?

[lofty galleon]

I'm not ded

[fluid delta]

Well I’ll be d…. you’re right. I’d never noticed that before. Income jumps by x3 instead of x2 at the 8 level. The game certainly doesn’t mention it, it just does it. I wonder if there’s an inflection point to x4 or x5?

[amber canyon]

The wiki says it's just triple all the way through (I checked ... Cos this game ... Doesn't make things clear).

FWIW the Reality Reboot makes things clearer. A lot of numbers kicking around though. Am sure I'll end up with analysis paralysis 😬.

[strange wing]

Wait... Rank up the generator also give darwinium? I've never got that before

[amber canyon]

No idea! Can't remember ever thinking about it ...

[fluid delta]

hmm.. well, good to know.

[amber canyon]

The wiki updates after the Reality Reboot ... 😱

[fluid delta]

for some reason i always thought it was a x2 multiplier..

[amber canyon]

I can't even remember when / how I noticed ... Certainly not intuitive / expected for me given the rest of the multiplier rewards.

[fluid delta]

yeah.. no kidding. huh. And explore 30 will be the last one, right? I think I remember reading that.

(though i guess they could do Prestige like with Meso)

[strange wing]

Rank 30 might be the last, but in alpha version they have rank 31 or something like that

[fluid delta]

oh do they? good to know.

I would like to see a new “thing”, a new branch, if meso and explore and events are all branches… if you get what i mean

[strange wing]

You can try alpha if you want #public-alpha-feedback

[amber canyon]

Think I remember them saying they wouldn't do prestige for Beyond. With the implication it's because how much people hate it / grumble about it for Meso.

Wonder what they are intending to do if they run out of reality for Beyond and carry on. String theory and stuff?

[amber canyon]

A chemistry branch could be interesting. To go with physics (Beyond) and biology (Meso).

[fluid delta]

Nah, i don’t want to spoil myself.

idk maybe but they really need more Research Types.. as it is we only get 2 dwarf stars unlike the 3 red dwarves we get. I’m surprised they never did galaxies.. and if they do branch off into string theory or physics, they will need new ones.

[amber canyon]

(I know they're not that stove-piped, but my brain thinks about them like that).

[fluid delta]

I agree! That would be sweet, and there’s lots of elements to play with.. interesting idea! I’m on board!

[amber canyon]

Could possibly fit with your idea about choices ... Placing chemistry in a physical context ... If you chose to start on a gas giant the branches available are different from a rocky world. Or a choice between organic Vs inorganic chemistry.

Mechanic: something like a super exponential cost for unlocking things when earning goes linearly.

[fluid delta]

yeah.. though branches would be a surprise to me, since they don’t have it at all, yet.

they hint at it around the edges a little in the AI event, but otherwise not.

[amber canyon]

Ofc that could be another mechanic - that choosing one of a branch gives a massive penalty to the other branch.

But yeah, unlikely to happen. Unless the AI thing was them testing a bit of the concept out.

[boreal forge]

hello I just started this game about a couple weeks ago and I’ve seem to hit a plateau that doesn’t seem to end quite soon

Both primary and beyond do not move at all whatsoever and the amount of metabits I earn is very insignificant which leads to no progress. I’ve been stuck on episode 7 on beyond and can’t seem to move past it because the rate of money i earn is excruciatingly slow

the only simulation I can progress on is mesozoic alley which I have 31 prestige in

Any tips for me to progress faster?

[simple sorrel]

Unlock constellations

[boreal forge]

only 2 so far

[simple sorrel]

Yea.. unlock more

[boreal forge]

Gotcha

[swift heron]

31 prestige 💀

prestiges are different from extinctions

you'll see in extinction 50

[boreal forge]

31 extinctions

[swift heron]

there are 10 total prestiges for mesozoic valley

so 550 total extinctions

[boreal forge]

woah

[swift heron]

you're not even 10% done

[boreal forge]

yikes

I just need some advice so the other simulations won’t be so slow

[swift heron]

each prestige gives you a 50% boost in fossil income
so after the first 2 prestiges you're gonna get extinctions in minutes

[boreal forge]

yeah I’ve noticed

which is why it’s the only one I can progress in

[swift heron]

each extinction after extinction 45 took me almost a month 💀

beyond in the fastest by far

[boreal forge]

really?

[swift heron]

each episode only takes a week or 2 at max

[boreal forge]

for me it’s been excruciatingly slow

[boreal forge]

oh

so it’s normal for it to be excruciatingly slow

[swift heron]

a week for each episode is NOT slow 💀

bro you haven't even reached stage 2

[boreal forge]

I wouldn’t know I just started

[swift heron]

mesozoic valley prestige 0 literally took me a whole year

[boreal forge]

😔

[fluid delta]

Really? I could do multiple in the same day.. but the catch is that I didn't go past the first round/start the first Prestige, I didn't do it for months after I started playing, and so I had many/most nodes on the reality engine already bought.

[swift heron]

and the only thing that speed up the process is my very first ever diamond geode that i got from event leaderboards

[boreal forge]

oh I just paid to win I bought 3

It helps a lot

[swift heron]

no wonder you think mesozoic valley is very fast 💀

[boreal forge]

could be a reason

alright sorry im asking so many questions but how would I get more metabits?

I can barely make any right now and I see upgrades that cost A LOT so I assume im doing something wrong

[nocturne narwhal]

Use you metabits to buy more in the animal kingdom

[boreal forge]

the best animal I have is feliform and it produces 15qdc/s

[nocturne narwhal]

Ok

[boreal forge]

I have about 324 of them no animals I buy seem to increase the metabits a second substantially

[nocturne narwhal]

Press the reboot button but don't reboot

What does that x_______ number say?

[boreal forge]

Reason it’s a couple hundred more is probably because of the extinctions

[nocturne narwhal]

how many do you have

[boreal forge]

31

pretty sure it’s like +20x per extinction because of reality engine upgrades

[nocturne narwhal]

ok so show me the reptiles tide of you tree

Side*

[sullen vigil]

is there anyway i can turn off cutscenes? they are annoying

[sinful delta]

I feel you

But

[sullen vigil]

mannn

[nocturne narwhal]

Wait I thought there was a no cutscenes button

[sinful delta]

huh?

where

[nocturne narwhal]

No there isn't wow

[sinful delta]

woah

[fluid delta]

Best you/I can do is impatiently tap on the screen while it gets to the point where it interrupts. That works, but it's not instant, and it varies how fast it works depending on the even.

[mild furnace]

190 qi away

or no 170

[amber canyon]

You're paying attention and buying the generators that increase your production the most, right?

General advice (iOS/Android) is to collect all the Darwinium you can and spend it on the 100 Darwinium things in the Meso and Beyond shops. For Meso it's technically best to get diamond geodes at high levels; but helping speed up progress on the first run through was def a good thing from my perspective.

Use all the free/ad boosts you can - from improving production to collecting free things from the shops.

Have you unlocked events? Playing those will earn you Logits, which can be spent on the Augmentation console (there's a pinned guide in this channel as to what order is good). And will also give you another thing to be focusing on while your other Sims are gathering stuff.

There's a guide in the Semblance channel under /help that goes through Meso strategy, the initial run and afterwards.

If you're doing all that, then I think it might just be time that's required - it is an Idle game after all. I can't remember it taking ages, but that's driven by expectations. And someone else here was recently saying that Beyond episode 6 was taking ages.

[fluid delta]

You don't need to spend Darwinium on anything but the main part of the game, to get all the various optionals (but not cosmetics). Sure, you can, and you'll go faster, but for the most part it's a waste, in my own experience. Better to spend once for the 1 month infinity pass, that's all that you really need/want.

[amber canyon]

In other news, I just spent ages trying to do a variant sudoku. And kept failing. Until 20 mins ago.

Apparently 1 + 4 does not equal 6 🤯.

[fluid delta]

heh

[boreal forge]

Thank you guys so much for the help I appreciate it a lot

[placid birch]

||does anyone know how to do the "photo ichthyosaur" objective in extinction 33 of the mesozoic valley? i've bought 30 ichthyosaurs, and i've been looking all throughout the river but i cannot find them anywhere.||

[placid birch]

YOU CAN GET THE INFINITY PASS FOR DARWINIUM?!?!?!?!? HOW WHERE

[amber canyon]

If you go to the Meso garden view (where they're wandering round) and pull up the dashboard then clicking on the picture of Ichthyosaur will take you to it.

[placid birch]

||HOW IN THE WORLD WAS I SUPPOSED TO FIGURE OUT THAT IT WAS IN THE OCEAN????|| anyway thank you

[amber canyon]

When someone told me about that I facepalmed ... So much easier than what I was doing 😬.

[placid birch]

what were you doing?

[amber canyon]

Selecting a Dino then using the left/right arrows to scroll through them. And hoping I could recognise whichever Dino it was and not miss it.

[placid birch]

I never even thought about that myself, I would always just look around until I found what looked like the right one... 🤦

[amber canyon]

I know they're in order and the name is on screen. I still remember messing it up a few times.

[fluid delta]

Well no, it costs real money.. not as much as it looks though, since it does give darwinium as part of it, which you would want to buy those optionals in the main game anyway

[amber canyon]

The infinity pass Def helped when I was grinding for Neutrino Expansion. I also had bad flu and that was about the level I was functioning 😭.

[mild furnace]

who r these sweaty ass motherfuckers in division 144 bro WDYM I NEED ANOTHER 2.3k TO GET TOP 10

absurd

ur joking…

i jusy wanted squid man😭

[fluid delta]

Start later, you'll have less competition. Seriously, this works!

[mild furnace]

i did

i staryed 2 days in

[amber canyon]

Think I'll be starting with about 6h to go. That should give me plenty of time to get the badges and a good bit spare to get to top 10 in case it's a competitive division. (Noting that I'm on android and have 150% bee badge boost).

Just 3 more top 10 ranks till I max those giga normal traits ...

[fluid delta]

Yep, sounds like a good plan to me!

[fluid delta]

Yeah, next time start on Day 3. Day 4 is only usually viable to get Top 10 if you have lots of badges already for the boost. If you are on Division 200+ you are more likely to get that high rank.

[amber canyon]

I think starting too late can often put you into competition with the sprinter 💜tryhards💜, which is as much of a problem like our marathon 💜tryhards💜 buddies (like Jonathan!).

Obvs, I may also be considered a sprinter 💜tryhard💜.

Luck of the draw too. And hoping you don't join as the 999th person in a division that's been slow to fill.

[fluid delta]

Heh, I am guilty of that myself, I usually wait until the last day, or sometimes the day before... still, what are the odds Zeb will have my division? And even if they did, there's plenty of room in the Top 10 🙂

[amber canyon]

FWIW bees is one of the events that's been run the most (17 times I think) and there will be people that have 3 badges from each of those times. While the badge boost does tail off after 200%.its not that sharp of a tail off.

You'll have much less of a noob penalty with events that are new-ish (e.g. rocks, maths, AI, cheese and cryptids).

Tbh ranking as highly as you are is impressive in itself!

[mild furnace]

im aiming for atleast top 10

hopefully

not gonna happen

BUT WHO KNOWS

im almost in the teens

21st place

[fluid delta]

Yep, keep at it, you can reopen it every 10 min, watch the ad, get the boost, allocate the currency, that'll get you there if anything will.

[mild furnace]

20th

[fluid delta]

And once you have it complete, maybe let it do it's thing for a half hour, grab the boost as above, and evenly allocate the currency across all the nodes to get the most science.

[mild furnace]

idk if i can do that rn cuz im gonna go to bed soon lol

i might lose my spot to that

its a tough world at the top

[fluid delta]

ah you are in europe probably! then yes, others will gain ground on you overnight for sure

.. but you can regain in the morning as people in NA will be asleep, so.. 🙂

[proud berry]

You have until <t:1753390200:f>

[mild furnace]

thTs a whole 24 hours

idk

[mild furnace]

TRUE

but like id cuz id have to level up

like go to the next challenge level

[fluid delta]

yes, it gives you a big bonus every time you do that

[mild furnace]

a cool thing i found while playing events

[simple sorrel]

Not always me lol

[mild furnace]

but only works on events it seems like

[simple sorrel]

😐

[mild furnace]

i do the same shit for my spotify

[mild furnace]

what lol

[fluid delta]

That might get you put into the cheating Division (#666), given that you just said that publically, is all I'm gonna say about that.

I really like the 5 second ads, nice and short, I just wish they happened more often!

[mild furnace]

5 second ads? mine r always a full minute

also chesting what who said anything about cheating

i didnt

i only did it like one time to see if it worked

[simple sorrel]

🤦‍♂️

Be so fr rn

[fluid delta]

They are local area ones usually, though not always. Like, there's this one particular restaurant.

Skipping ads but getting the credit for it is probably against terms of service. You do as you see fit, ofc, I'm not gonna judge.

[mild furnace]

well if it makes anyone feel better it was barely 1/8th an upgrade and didnt effect my placement

plus 30 seconds later and i wouldve still gotten money

not like im exploiting in money

or darwinium

[fluid delta]

You do as you see fit. It might even be that CtS gets paid when you do that, in which case if true they themselves won't mind, and if the ads are for things you hate anyway, no real loss.. but again, idk, and so I stay quiet about such things when Idk!

[mild furnace]

ok

i got a badge saying that i watched alot of ads and that it helps the team

so idk lol

oh also

[fluid delta]

lord knows there are some mobile games I've never played but seriously detest bc omg are they annoying.. and long.

[mild furnace]

does cts work offline

[mild furnace]

gardenscapes… i keep getting that and bitlife ads for cts

[fluid delta]

I think so yes but you won't have access to the ad boosts

[mild furnace]

not the end of the world i guess

im just gonna be going on a plane ride on friday and i wanna play something

also is there any way to get out of division 666 or is it permanent

[fluid delta]

yeah fair. I would assume it'll sync back up when you connect to wifi at your destination

[fluid delta]

that Idk..someone else probably does though

[mild furnace]

ok well its whatever im ngl i love the events

it keeps the game fresh

ever changing and not the same repetitive stuff

for a long while atleast

[fluid delta]

it does! That's the only reason I play rn, while waiting for the next content drop.

well.. it is repetitive though, there's not THAT many different events. You will get tired of most of them, trust me!

[mild furnace]

well

ive liked all of them so far

and arent there like 18?

thats a whole 2 months of content

and id gladly play it again i love rebirths and doing the meso tree and prim all over again

i just cant wait for the huge money boost thatll come when i buy squid

ALMOST TOP 10

[fluid delta]

more like 17.5 but yeah.

[mild furnace]

why .5

[fluid delta]

I got sick of meso.. by the time you finish it at prestige 10 you will be too 🙂

bc cryptids was a mini-event, only one badge as i recall, not 3

[mild furnace]

the stuff im hearinf about prestige 0 is awful “it takes a whole year”

[mild furnace]

oh that makes sense why its a mini event but will it be back? i love cryptid stuff and i wanna see what cts has to offer when it comes to that

[fluid delta]

no way prestige 0 takes a whole year, that’s not true unless maybe you do that without anything from the reality engine. even then it is likely a big exaggeration

[fluid delta]

idk

[mild furnace]

.

idk thats just what i read

itll prolly just take a few months

but beyond SUCKS

[fluid delta]

its all good its an IDLE game after all!

[mild furnace]

that is true but id still like the game to move a little 😭

[fluid delta]

heh it does. don’t worry

[mild furnace]

ive been sitting on beyond episode 6 for almost a week and a half because of this 950 qi quest i can barely make 10 qa fully maxed out

if it wasnt for this quest

id be in ep 8 by now

[fluid delta]

yeah idk i got stuck at one point on it, came back later with the reality engine improvements and then np.

[mild furnace]

what in reality wngine speeds up beyond

[proud berry]

Nothing.

[mild furnace]

i just know theres some logit stuff that speeds uo but thats it

[proud berry]

Four Augmentations.

One for Darwinium, and Three for Logits.

[fluid delta]

my bad, just checked, you are right. i misremembered

[mild furnace]

alos chat

how do i get lots of darwinium

[fluid delta]

get out your wallet. 😝

pay in time or pay in money, either way you pay, that’s how idle games work

besides there is no rush. all you are doing is making “bigger number better”.

[simple sorrel]

“Testing” purchases in beta

[wraith terrace]

I am very confident that the cryptids will be back. But it is supposed to be somewhat seasonal- as is the dodo-event (no badges, but FUN).

[wraith terrace]

HERESY!

[sinful delta]

[amber canyon]

For me, local elections and my local airport bus transfer are 5 seconds ads. Like 60% of my ads over the last fortnight have been for the airport bus. I'm v happy to get the ads 'cos 5 seconds. But also I'm ... Why ... ?

[mild furnace]

all of u can kick rocks

beyond is unreasonably slow

40 mins for one fuckinf saturn cycle

even after fucking speed upgrades

the generation rates r INSULTINGly low

10 QI PER CYCLE OMG

and a cycle is 40 minutes

bro

[amber canyon]

Thematically it makes sense with the moons being faster. If that makes you feel better about the gas giants? Don't the moons generate more anyway once you take the time into account or am I misremembering?

[gray yew]

40 mins? That’s a lot.
But give it enough time and patience, and Saturn will be super-quick.

Actually that applies to the lot of them.

[frosty current]

howwwww

[amber canyon]

Not slow for me 😬

[mild furnace]

thsts cuz ur maxed out

early game sucks

[amber canyon]

(unlikely to make you feel better if you're on level 6 ... Sorry)

[mild furnace]

its ok i heard pluto makes money

so ill push thru till that

[amber canyon]

True. But all I get to do atm is maybe by a single generator every 4-5 days. So ... That's a bit sad. Except when I can be smug!

[mild furnace]

lol why not restart on a fresh account

do it all over again

[amber canyon]

... Meso ... Neutrino Expansion.

If I could restart just Beyond I probably would.

[mild furnace]

ehat is neutrino expansion

[amber canyon]

The end boss of the game!

[mild furnace]

how do u get to that

end of meso prestige 10?

[proud berry]

Fifty quadrillion Metabits.

[amber canyon]

It's a thing you can buy in the reality engine. I heard from the old timers that it was supposed to be impossible and the Devs put it in to troll people. But ...if you try very very hard or wait a very very long time it is possible.

Many hardy souls have fallen by the wayside trying to beat it. Their unmarked graves scattered along the path to 50Qa. Those who got there still flinch at the horror of the journey.

[proud berry]

Agreed by many to be the hardest feat in the game.

Harder than a three-minute Singularity time and maximum completion of the Mesozoic Valley.

Honestly, I don't see why so many people fret over that "speedrun" achievement.

[amber canyon]

I def maxed Meso before NE. I wanted those multipliers!

[proud berry]

I've probably gotten it at least a half dozen times. Unintentionally.

[amber canyon]

I struggled with it, but speed / accuracy not my thing. I got the 6 min one accidentally though.

[proud berry]

Maybe I'm just skilled?

[amber canyon]

That too!

[sinful delta]

I still remember it in perfect detail, the corpses of people trying to reach it…..

[proud berry]

With all this alpha testing, it becomes muscle memory.

[sinful delta]

🤢

[sinful delta]

[proud berry]

Before the alpha, I hardly touched the Primary Simulation.

The only reason I played this game was to study the Beyond.

[sinful delta]

me too

[amber canyon]

Me three. Apart from the alpha bit. I just tested that enough to realise it looked good, report a few bugs, then decide to wait for the full release so I still have motivation then.

[sinful delta]

I didn’t realize it but why is cultist in your bio

[amber canyon]

“This isn’t my first cult”

[sinful delta]

oh

[proud berry]

I don't think I was clear enough with my statement.

[sinful delta]

from what I understand, you said you weren’t very focused on it until the alpha

[amber canyon]

(a Discord RPG thingy I play / played. Was fun. The first one involved a bunch of people who won the Kickstarter lottery going to an island and having irl stuff happening while a bunch of us helped support and solve problems online.)

[proud berry]

When I said "I hardly touched it," I meant "I didn't even know what the Reality Engine was, because I didn't bother with it."

[sinful delta]

Oh

not me too

[proud berry]

Yeah.

Really neglected it.

[amber canyon]

D'know if you can get to It, but one of my fave posts from the last game - #1337528751914745897 message

[sinful delta]

I do not have access to the lynk

[amber canyon]

Ah well, you'll just have to imagine my descent into insanity as the things living in my brain / my paranoia escalated.

I can not see, I can not tell if my eyes are open or closed. My acquaintance - my friend - has bandaged them, and additionally my hands are restrained. They mean well, do not judge them harshly. I - with no other options and forlorn hope - am attempting to send this through the dream-world to you, using those techniques we have discussed, although having carried out no experiments of note, I worry about interfeﮩ٨ـﮩﮩ٨ـﮩ٨ـﮩﮩ٨ـatic. And also, whether I am awake, or asleep.

||i can not see, i can not tell if my eyes are open or closed||

How did this happen? Yesterday I was content - aware of the horror pressing on the walls of our world - yet I reﮩ٨ـﮩﮩ٨ـﮩ٨ـﮩﮩ٨ـ afe with a friend and bathed by the ruddy, golden light of a fire, that age-old companion to humanity. The world outside could neveﮩ٨ـﮩﮩ٨ـﮩ٨ـﮩﮩ٨ـ e while I remained within that rosy glow.

||i must not blink||

Etc ...

[mild furnace]

would this not be easily doable when u max out everything

even just maxing out meso and buying artifacts for prim

[placid birch]

...but you literally implied that you could buy the infinity pass for darwinium

[amber canyon]

Well it's easy in one sense that you can just wait.

I think giant squid did make it achievable rather than impossible. But even with fully maxed stuff it takes a while. Or active specific grinding.

[mild furnace]

this is mind numbing

let me just get top 10 brooo

[amber canyon]

I'm glad I have two devices so can just do the stuff like that in the background. Or y'know other stuff like reading / work.

Is getting late though. Pick it up in the morning?

[mild furnace]

r u saying this for urself or for me

cuz its almost 3am for me

lol

[amber canyon]

You? Not quite that late for me. Not yet 1am and just got off a call with a mate. And I'm wrestling with another sudoku-type puzzle ...

Maybe me too. Just yawned...

[mild furnace]

ye idk i thought my clock was included in the pic of something

my bad

every european should definirely go to bed tho

12 oclock ATLEAST

[fluid delta]

I didn’t word it as carefully as I should have, my bad

[simple sorrel]

Hmm

What is it?

[simple sorrel]

Oh?

[wraith terrace]

No, that's perfectly normal. Once again, you ignore what has been said.

[wraith terrace]

Hmm. That means your timezone is 1 h behind mine, so west of me. As I'm still on that cursed daylight saving time, that means you're likely in Protugal, Ireland or the UK. Or somewhere in Africa, between Algeria and Angola.

[mild furnace]

literally what the fuck

i jjust moved to spot 13

and i look away for 2 sefonds and im back at 15 with 400 research needed to get back to spot 13

[strange wing]

lol

[mild furnace]

i dont ignore im upgrading and waiting

i said id complain the whole way but i like the game

and ill still wait

[unreal patio]

So when will we get more content? I know that right now the reality reboot is the priority, but is there any expectation on the next space chapter or limited events?

[strange wing]

Idk about that. But you can try alpha version if you want

[unreal patio]

Yeah, I was thinking about that too, I may do that since it’s been quite a while

[strange wing]

Oh

[mild furnace]

2 new space chapters iirc

and somewhere in september or later

idk anything else

[gray yew]

The final two chapters of the beyond are still in beta or something.
I’ve seen Collin’s videos, and from what I can tell, the final two chapters/episodes/whatever are about ||the edge of the universe and whatever lies beyond it.||

[boreal forge]

once I got Uranus I actually started making progress again

[proven bridge]

I've lost local and steam cloud back up. is there any way to restore?

[amber canyon]

Did you do any cross-platform saves using the in game save manager? If not, then I suspect your progress is permanently lost 🙁.

[gray yew]

yay

[mild furnace]

this has got to be a joke

it made me collect fucking 950 qi over the span of a week and a half

and now it needs another 1003 qi

bro

thats actually so fucked

im gonna need to afk for 20 more hours to get the next upgrade give or take

[amber canyon]

I guess I musta blocked this memory. Or just wasn't focussing on the game at this point.

[strange wing]

I suggest buying generator one by one instead of buy rank. Use buy max instead

And use 4x boost and keep it activate

[wraith terrace]

This ☝️ That's the only way to make some progress in Beyond. There are a few augmentations, as well, but they will be largely useless relatively soon (Voyager 1 and 2). Also, keep the astronomy missions going at all times- you should, in that order, max all science missions, get the free fragment and one or two free red dwarf every few days (idk when the second one becomes available). Fill the empty slots with dark matter, DM 4 and 5 seem to be most effektive

[fluid delta]

The faster dark matter give you the most per unit time, but only if you do them as often as they finish, which I find a pain to remember, so I do the longer ones even though they aren’t as efficient

[fluid delta]

Likely it was bad luck in timing with people finishing the first round and getting the science boost for starting the next.. that sort of thing. Another that can cause it is if you were offline for a little bit and the game got back in sync to fetch the most recent data from others.

[true valley]

the game doesnt allow time skips now 💔

[fluid delta]

Unless that changed in the last 12 hours, yes it does.

[amber canyon]

I remain hopeful that at some point I'll have enough beyond trait cards that are worth upgrading to use up my 300k stardust ...

... And then probably start complaining about low levels of stardust AND trait cards lol.

[wraith terrace]

Dark matter is not a problem. Cards are. Even from black holes, there are so few silver and gold cards that likely, most traits will rot on level 2 or 3 forever

[amber canyon]

True. UNLESS - in the distant future - I get to the stage where I'm looking at lots of upgrades that cost 10k stardust (the max cost I believe, from level 11 and up).

Can't see how that would happen given that I basically only seem to get series 2 gold/silver cards from black holes (very occasionally from the free/mission white dwarfs).

I have a bunch of black holes to cash in when E29 comes out, but need 36 to have a 50/50 chance of upgrading 2 of my gold traits to level 6. There'll likely be the expected new silver trait too. But that won't make a dint in my stardust. 2 golds and 6 silvers per black hole is brutal.

[thorn cradle]

Jfc… anyone else stuck in this tryhard division or am I racing bots?

[fluid delta]

Just checked, it’s not in Explore, but it is in everything else.

Nah, not bots. Something about the event lends itself to high science, maybe bc it’s quick to do. Looking at the numbers you show, someone who has reached the challenge level after yours would be in the Top 10 no problem.

[lofty galleon]

I'm not ded

[serene urchin]

I have the some problem, getting into the top 10 feels almost impossible.

[fluid delta]

The best way is to start on the last day, or 2nd last, and to play often, have the full x4 boost (if you are on iOS/iPadOS/Android). And, the more events you do, the faster you will progress bc of the speed boost from that as well.

[serene urchin]

Why start on the last day? I always try to be as quick as possible with joining

Is it so that you get paired with other who probably will not play much?

[amber canyon]

Right, time to start. 5h50m to go.

@serene urchin So I spend less time playing 😁

[fluid delta]

Yes, exactly. And it works. And it’s also a lot less effort to get to Top 10 since you only play for 1 day instead of 3 or 4.

[serene urchin]

I'll be sure to try that when the new event comes

[gray yew]

I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again.

Join Early = More Competition + More Time
Join Late = Less Competition + Less Time

That’s the gist of it, anyway.

[gray yew]

It’s also because by that time, most people will have joined. You’ll be competing with stragglers, which isn’t so hard.

[modest barn]

I find that joining like 8 hours after the event starts grants me a pretty decent shot at top 10

[gray yew]

Gotta agree. Though in my case it's mostly accidental.

Joining late that is, not having a decent shot.

(By the way, nice pfp.)

[boreal forge]

Fellas, what does a prestige do? I’m nearly at my first prestige in mesozoic so I wanna know the benefits of it

[amber canyon]

A prestige is the only way to progress so you're likely going to want to do it sooner or later.

You lose all your generators (Dinos) and your normal trait cards and levels. You keep mutagen and gold / silver trait cards and levels and get an extra trait card.

There's a guide in the semblance channel under /help.

Most importantly: if you have the ability to cash in any diamond geodes before you prestige, DO IT!

[gray yew]

Also, assuming you have a good amount of gold and silver stuff, the prestige will go by way faster. As someone in this server (I can’t remember who) proved just the other day, it is possible to do all the prestiges (||all 10 of them||) in a single day.
It’s more of a matter of patience. Eventually it gets a bit dull.

[fluid delta]

Very dull. 550 levels total. I got them done, but, ugh... not at once.

[gray yew]

Understandable.

[north phoenix]

When is episode 29 coming out?

[amber canyon]

Last we heard, after the Reality Reboot (ETA Autumn?)

3rd badge collected. In 5th in div 202 (a big drop in div numbers since the last bee event!). Now to keep on top of it ...

[proud berry]

Winter.

[wraith terrace]

What? 500 extinctions in one day??

[gray yew]

It seemed that way. Or at least most of it.

[amber canyon]

Think they'd been sat at something like prestige 3 or 4 for a while beforehand (so presumably a good stack of golds/silvers). Then decided to just get it over with.

[sinful delta]

are yall talking about me

[mild furnace]

@amber canyon ye this is absolutely not fucking happening

5k research JUST FOR TOP 10

genuinely who the fuck is top 1

[gray yew]

Actually yeah. I think it was you.

[gray yew]

A madlad.

[sinful delta]

I completed prestige 6 - 10 within a few hours

[gray yew]

Point proven.

[sinful delta]

That felt fun

0 - 4 took years to finish

Not because it actually takes that long

But I hated it so I just abandoned it

[gray yew]

At risk of repeating myself

Understandable

[sinful delta]

Huh

[amber canyon]

I understand Ketmay's understandable comment

[sinful delta]

Really, just prestige 3 and 4. I was somewhat focused on it during 0 - 2

Took a couple months

[amber canyon]

Someone with more time to okay, badges and / or Darwinium 😬.

The fight to get / stay in top 10 can be hard. Especially if people been putting effort in for a few days and don't want to walk away.

[sinful delta]

won’t forget that I said “oppa gangnam style” when finishing meso

[amber canyon]

That's one way of being able to find old posts!

[gray yew]

What a flex

[mild furnace]

still tho

5000

if i get kicked out of 25 within the next 30 mins im gonna tweak

[amber canyon]

It all makes a difference though.

I like 'sprinting' at the end, can often do events actively (but in the background while doing something else) and have badge boosts.

And this is what that looks like ... Starting just less than 6h before this event ends.

[fluid delta]

Did you play this morning?

[fluid delta]

Yep, that's what I usually do. It works!

[mild furnace]

ye i got top 25

and i bought this bitch

[fluid delta]

Sweet! Yeah, the Squid will help

I will probably start Good Vibrations on Sunday

.. unless I get too impatient, in which case sooner 🙂

[mild furnace]

ill probably start late saturday

[amber canyon]

I am 95% sure my diamond geode didn't give me enough mutagen - only 30k ish. Ah well, maybe the wiki is wrong and there's a low chance of a low mutagen drop. Not massively important either.

[gray yew]

I’ll start soon

ish

[mild furnace]

im ngl the yellow star was ass

why is beyond actually so bad

the packs r bad

the progression is abysmal

😭

and there r like no good artifacts

atleast at the point im at

[fluid delta]

You will get there.. and then it's pretty much easy at that point, as long as you are a bit patient. You get up to the later ones, you can do them easy within a day.

But yeah, early on I remember it being a slog

[gray yew]

And later on it’s a slog

[fluid delta]

Well... depends on what one calls a slog, I suppose.

[amber canyon]

Are you following Maddox's advice here? #💬-cells-chat message

It'll Def speed your Beyond up.

But yeah ... Time and patience ...

[gray yew]

Maybe I should go back to doing buy max as well/instead

[amber canyon]

But Beyond is so pretty! And interesting. That clearly overwrote any slog in my memory. 😬.

[gray yew]

Agreed. I remember unlocking bits of the inner solar system, and being amazed at how far out (pun unintended) everything was.

[amber canyon]

All those textbooks etc showing the planets and sun all lined up ...

Even with the * for not to scale it sank in to my subconscious. The Beyond model just blew my mind.

[mild furnace]

yes

[gray yew]

Also interesting thing:
Before it came out, I had a dream about the beyond. It was an extension of the main tree, continuing where ||Fully Terraformed Environment|| left off. The background was sky-blue for…some reason.

[gray yew]

It’s the most amazing garden of them all.