💬-cells-chat

[kindred hamlet]

AND THE ANSWER IS YES

[prisma rapids]

violence in this case is killing the dinosaurs over and over with meteors to get further in mesozoic, therefore it helps.

[desert pebble]

fr

[fickle mantle]

Ghost ping? Really?

[buoyant night]

Then how the hell im also the 1st?

[desert pebble]

it's other race

[buoyant night]

Huuhhhh

[fickle mantle]

Because people are divided into different groups.

[buoyant night]

I don't understand

Ahaaa

I get it

[fickle mantle]

You don't race with anyone in the entire game, but only the people in your group.

[desert pebble]

do i grind beyond or mezo?

[buoyant night]

No

Grind the top tier of war thunder

Heheheha

[desert pebble]

:P

[fickle mantle]

Definitely grind Mesozoic Valley.

[desert pebble]

k

[desert pebble]

and if u use my code: isellorgans, you will get a premium boost for 3 days and an exclusive aircraft!

[buoyant night]

We should have a war event or politics idk

• least radical hoi4 player

[desert pebble]

i automated Theropoda and Saurischia today

I don't like school

[desert pebble]

and any othr strategy game

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-cat-wawa-oh-the-misery-cat-discord-gif-25805976

[buoyant night]

There is like 5 dinosaur valley levels

[desert pebble]

wow,i totally don't hate it too

[buoyant night]

Ain't no way im grind that

[desert pebble]

?

wdym

[buoyant night]

Um

[desert pebble]

fr wdym?

[buoyant night]

I meam

Prestige

[desert pebble]

there's 10 prestiges

not 5

[buoyant night]

Ohhhhh

[fickle mantle]

Prestige 10 is the maximum prestige you can achieve.

[worldly pulsar]

Can you dm for troubleshoot?

[buoyant night]

I forget

[desert pebble]

i'm rank 21

[desert pebble]

I have 83 extinctions left until I finish all 10 prestiges

[desert pebble]

O MA GAD

Dev

[desert pebble]

OMG CELL SUPPORT

HIIIII

[buoyant night]

Are you familiar with the term "taxes and life"?

[desert pebble]

[desert pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[desert pebble]

Bro istg my dad made me traumatized about that shit and now I don't want to fucking grow up

[buoyant night]

💀

[desert pebble]

same😨💀

[buoyant night]

I wish i stayed a kid

[desert pebble]

I have ptsd because of him

[buoyant night]

Childhood is just free trial

[desert pebble]

[desert pebble]

trail

[fickle mantle]

Yeah and you should grind it. Grinding Mesozoic Valley will unlock more generators for the Main Simulation.

[desert pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/kawazaki-cago-krico-estriper-los-pinguinos-gif-5365200308834613758

[buoyant night]

Im not native English speaker lad

[desert pebble]

me too pal

[buoyant night]

Btw

How tiers work

[desert pebble]

What tiers

[woeful stratus]

you've asked that one more than once. what tiers are you referring to?

[buoyant night]

Ahhhhhhh

I mean

The silly stuff i could see in event profile

[desert pebble]

oh

Ohhhhh

leaderboards

[buoyant night]

Student master and stuff

[frank jewel]

the first guy just finish and it must be 5mins but how did the second guys finish over one thousand days ago?

That's looks cursed

[vivid oasis]

Mine is better 😂

Definitely deserved a screenshot

[desert pebble]

Hmmm

Anyone got max Neolithic?

Like all the boosts and whatnot

[dreamy echo]

Ideas do in fact produce metabits

[glass kettle]

i saw the new event for music, and I kinda want to see the evolution of language too. starting with the oldest and the most modern.

[dreamy echo]

That would be very interesting

How far into theory though?

To proto-language/proto-human (I forgot what it's called) or just to proto-[insert language family here]

[glass kettle]

It starts with proto indo-european and spreads out like the tea tree.

I mean I have visions of it becoming a concept, but how it ends is another issue.

[sullen geode]

Don't forget Proto-Afroasiatic, Proto-Uralic, and Proto-Dravidian.

[dreamy echo]

That's only one language family though, should at least includ- exactly

[sullen geode]

There are others, but those 4 are the big universally accepted protos

[dreamy echo]

Frick what's the one for around modern china, or did you already mention it

[sullen geode]

sino tibetan?

[dreamy echo]

Yes

[sullen geode]

yeah, that's a big one I missed...

[glass kettle]

I also think it should extend to written language as well.

[dreamy echo]

Proto-Niger-Congo might be a subcategory of proto-afroasiatic

But it's big

[sullen geode]

nope, that's a separate one too

see, so many...easy to miss

[desert pebble]

What..?

[dreamy echo]

It's very simple, it's just an ancient form of a language family, reconstructed using the comparative method

[desert pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-stripper-skeleton-gif-10751264

[vague wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-final-fantasy-vii-ffvii-frog-dance-gif-15364967

[low abyss]

Im the only one Who feels that tapping in beyond is completly useless?

Im mesozoic i had like lv 15 upgrades for tapping and It was so fun and op

But here its like xd

[south estuary]

same

but i didn't tap in mezo either

[low abyss]

Lol that should be a nightmare to grind

Without tapping

[desert pebble]

If you're ever scared you might lose an object, stash it under a couch cushion. Always works.

[low abyss]

With this It was kind of doable without wanting to unistall

But in beyond my tap trait is only lv 2 and im not even able to upgrade It bc 1- you receive almost no cards 2- you have to Focus on series II and there is no tap trait there

[sullen geode]

Very hard to get that one up to 15 without spending a bunch of cubes.

[low abyss]

No lol

[dreamy echo]

Pure luck

[low abyss]

No

[dreamy echo]

It's rng, so kind of yes

[low abyss]

You just have to spam mistery trait in rank 6 or 7 i dont remember

[dreamy echo]

Huh

[low abyss]

No its not. Well, It is but you can play with it

[dreamy echo]

True

[low abyss]

If you spam mistery trait in the level where you only have that trait on (is the first rare trait)

Every time you get rare traits in mistery It Will be ammonites

[sullen geode]

at 8% chance

[low abyss]

Every half an hour xd its not that bad

And the Game Bugs every now and then and the mistery doesnt even have a timer and It resets when u close and open the game

[sullen geode]

I still stand by my initial assessment of it being very hard. The steps may be simple, but the patience to get there is difficult to retain.

[low abyss]

The thing is It doesnt become harder and harder bc you always get half of the rank, no Matter how much cards you need

[sullen geode]

And having the half a million mutagen to sink into it

[low abyss]

Its pretty easy to save when you have such a tap power

Almost no need to waste mutagen

And again, the game Bugs sometimes and gives you free expensives geodes so xd

Literally two days ago in my game i didnt have a timer on beyond when i opened the free 4 hours star

[sullen geode]

Guess you are lucky. I've never had it glitch like that.

But I do agree with you that tapping in Beyond is pretty much useless.

[desert pebble]

i get 19T/s on mezo valley

[south estuary]

9.13 Oc/s here

[low abyss]

I think my mobile is so shit It sometimes Bugs. Advantadges of being poor

[south estuary]

i'm pretty sure i spend more times in meso than principal simu

[dreamy echo]

Good

You're going to need it

[sullen geode]

My mezo goes from base of 100No/s to over 800No/s while tapping.....Beyond gos from 6 Ovg/s to 6.7 Ovg/s. Just not worth the effort.

[low abyss]

Yeah is by far the most grindy part

[south estuary]

above all dino are damn cool

[low abyss]

@sullen geode at least you notice It. I swear even with auto tapper i dont find a differencd

It doesnt go up

And for an iddle game is kind of bad that tapping does nothing

[sullen geode]

I wonder if it is based on best generator. If you have a bunch of really similar production level generators, that would explain it being unnoticeable.

90% of my production comes from Janssen

[radiant prism]

@sullen geode same here Beyond is slow af

I've been working on getting Kepler and Janssen to rank 6 but I get like 1 level of each a day

I'm at 148 on Kepler and 129 on Janssen

[sullen geode]

I've been at 5 for both for a while now. I lose interest in pushing without the next stage being out.

[radiant prism]

I have been waiting on 21 to come out because it'll push those to level 6 pretty quickly. I don't even double my offline earnings anymore.

[sullen geode]

Pretty much just explorations and watching ads until the new stuff comes out. The struggles of a spoiled end-gamer.

[radiant prism]

I still have 2 on meso that need to get to 200 so that's what I've been pushing.

[sullen geode]

That seemed to drag on forever for me. I was inefficient with my mutagen, though, so I kinda shot myself in the foot on that one.

[low abyss]

for me what drags me down its the logita

logits

i want to get everything but with the updates its almost impossible

[desert pebble]

i think i'm going to farm mezo

[south estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-emperor-do-it-go-for-it-gif-17446081

[desert pebble]

xD

rip

[worn laurel]

A he actually named himself today the guy with hacks

[desert pebble]

Bruh

i only use auto-click

it's different

[tidal patrol]

Hello

[radiant prism]

I dont think they were talking about you, unless your name is hobab

[desert pebble]

Lol

Also

Don't mention me for useless things

[sullen geode]

dog or cat

do you have either of the cube purchases?

I'd lean towards cat and pyramid

no, not both

[queen glacier]

r they worth it

[sullen geode]

right, get the cat, which gives an achieve and then save for pyramid

your neolithic will then be boosted big time

[sullen geode]

yeah, when you get the upgrades your neolithic will be top idea generator followed by stone age then martian city

[queen glacier]

they will help my progress right

[sullen geode]

yeah, ideas produce metabits too, so bigger numbers always better

[desert pebble]

Back from doing things on cts

[queen glacier]

i bought both and the numbers didnt even change

[desert pebble]

I buy capybara or giant squid first?

K

[sullen geode]

how much entropy do you produce?

if you produce QDc range, go squid

[desert pebble]

20%: Unfold the Universe
35%: Fungus Among Us
15%: The Big Questions
40%: The Price of Trust
5%: Life After Apocalypse
5%: A Coevollution Love Story
0% on the next 2 events
40%: Good Vibrations

[desert pebble]

1 Hdc per sec

[sullen geode]

then squid is better

[desert pebble]

And Coevollution is next event

So i wont get 50 logits (probably)

[sullen geode]

if you can finish it you get 50

more if you rank in the race

[hollow quest]

even with that ideas will be far behind my entropy tho

[sullen geode]

yeah, that's just how it goes...with all the upgrades, my entropy is about 1 million x ideas

[desert pebble]

What???

Lol

This is funny

The #2 place progress:
Lyre, Lyre

[rough axle]

Liar

[desert pebble]

True

i only get non-active people on my race

Velociraptor is my best dinosaur

[rough axle]

I wasn’t actually calling you a liar

The joke was lyre and liar are pronounced the same

[tulip geyser]

Bro no way

I am using the beyond simulation for my school project

Lmao

It is helping so much

[worthy tulip]

What is it about

[tulip geyser]

Its the classic one

Where we make the solar system

[fervent goblet]

I'm unsure if this may be a bug or not but like if you quit an event like good vibrations, go back to primary simulation and then return to the event you can entirely skip the cooldown of nanobots

[random stump]

is it even possible to beat these events? i don’t understand

i check in like 4 or 5 times a day and at most i’m able to buy 2 or 3 upgrades

do you guys just leave your pcs on with autoclickers or what?

[fervent goblet]

you just gotta stay afk, I use 2 autoclickers for a massive effectiveness and to process as well

[random stump]

oh nice lol

even w an auto clicker it’s super slow

[fervent goblet]

I have 1 autoclicker set to use left click and other one to use the right one

[fervent goblet]

oh, let me show you something rq xd

[random stump]

like i buy an upgrade for 100 million and the next is 10 billion or something

[fervent goblet]

read around here

[fervent goblet]

just some patience and you'll get it eventually

[random stump]

yeah i’m down to be patient but it’s gonna take more than 6 days i feel

also i’m done with the main game until i get more logits

can’t progress the main game until i get 100 logits so events are all i have

[fervent goblet]

understandable

I keep going to get badges so yeah

partially fun too to read the info given by the events

[random stump]

well i’m not really done with the main game tho it will just take 18 years for the next upgrade

like- actually 18 years i did the math

[fervent goblet]

aren't you exaggerating?

[random stump]

no

6 years if i leave the game open

[fervent goblet]

oh

[olive juniper]

heyyyy sooo

ads haven't been working for me for liiike 10-16 weeks

not allowed to watch them anymore

was only inspired to attempt to fix it because of the new research races

also part of that is that it takes a lot longer for it to process offline and calendar rewards, and load events; 20-30s instead of the old 1-2s

[olive juniper]

I've managed to get both problems fixed temporarily by resetting my google advertising id and restarting my phone, it allows me a whopping two ads before breaking again

[patent sky]

can i somehow see what is the 14th reward?

[olive juniper]

it would have told you when you claimed it

probably a shark

[olive juniper]

alright well I claimed some codes that I didn't know existed which should buy me enough ads to at least get third place but

[fickle mantle]

The "?" gives you a shark that you don't have. There are 6 sharks in total, aka 84 days of logging in.

[slim sapphire]

dog also gives achive

but you wouldn't know, i bet ur a cat in a trench coat

[olive juniper]

stone age is inferior though

[slim sapphire]

its totally worth the 1 darwin

tho seriously by the time u want cat ideas are kind of useless anyway

[olive juniper]

true

[slim sapphire]

im trying to get every main sim achive so im gonna go for em anyway

7 left

[olive juniper]

I think I have like four left, not sure

it's all secret achievements and idk which ones are in main sim or not

[dreamy echo]

||cat does too||

[weary yacht]

Sadly they are literally nothing in comparison with capybara and giant squid

[fickle mantle]

Yeah. They were replying to a message that said that there is an achievement for Cat Domestification.

[fickle mantle]

I know?

[weary yacht]

I dont mean that you dont know-

[fickle mantle]

Aight.

[weary yacht]

-w-

[nocturne bay]

Aka change ur date and time

[weary yacht]

True lol

[dry pendant]

wheres notation in music

is it from theory

or early innovation

[worn laurel]

i wasnt talking about him idk what he id on about unless its him which would be weird and auto-click is also a hack so idk what u r on about it gives an unfair adv. on the race.

[desert pebble]

theory

[desert pebble]

autoclicker is allowed, it isn't cheating

[lusty crane]

fr

guys

[desert pebble]

wow chemistry

[lusty crane]

Do you know that Lipperhey and Kepler 70d have same model as Sedna?

[worn laurel]

well its not when you can do a race in 4 mins

[desert pebble]

what message are you answering?

[worn laurel]

they could just put it in the game the devs in next update so evryone got it 😄

otherwise i wouldnt get asked what hacks are they using and if indeed they use autoclick....

[little halo]

autoclick aint hacks lol

well, in the general consensus, people argue autoclick should be allowed

[desert pebble]

fax

[worn laurel]

what auttoclick are we talking about the one inbeded in the game?

the one you unlock with metabits?

[little halo]

no

[worn laurel]

or an external program

[desert pebble]

there's no autoclick inbeded in c2s

[little halo]

the ones you download

[little halo]

[desert pebble]

ohhhh

you mean nanobots

[worn laurel]

there is, the robots 1 min. autoclick

[lusty crane]

guyssssss

pls answer my question pls

[little halo]

holy crap it's one of those internet guys who say plsssssssssssssssss

[worn laurel]

then, that is just called a hack xD what so complicated about it xD

[little halo]

anyways what

[lusty crane]

Do you know Lipperhey and Kepler 70d have the same model as Sedna?

[desert pebble]

they aren't autocliker(-s), they r similar to it, but again nanobot isn't autoclick

[lusty crane]

in Beyond

[worn laurel]

it gives an unfair adv on race like idk how do you defend this lmao

[desert pebble]

idk

[lusty crane]

wait

[desert pebble]

almost everyone uses auto

[lusty crane]

i'll give proofs

[worn laurel]

no

[little halo]

"You can also use an autoclicker if you want (and we actually recommend this method for players with motor issues, or repetitive stress injuries like carpal tunnel)"

taken from the c2s wiki

[desert pebble]

judging by your logic, darwinium is a cheat too

[little halo]

did you know the tau ceti exoplanets have the same texture as mars and venus?

[worn laurel]

you dont have the date on "evryone uses it" and so far for what ive seen its a few who use it in races.

[desert pebble]

e

[little halo]

why don't you use it then

[worn laurel]

what????? thats inbeded in the game by devs what r u talking about.

[lusty crane]

yep, and io too

[fickle mantle]

I mean, that is cheating that will flag you in-game so.

[lusty crane]

yep, and io too

[worn laurel]

this guy defending hacks so hard with bs arguments holy

[little halo]

@worn laurel

hell in fact

[desert pebble]

well judging by your logic, darwinium gives unfair advantage, and nanobots too

[desert pebble]

genius argument ngl

[little halo]

most devs here probably don't care about autoclickers

[little halo]

ok to be fair your argument sucks too

[worn laurel]

well they do care

[desert pebble]

i know

[worn laurel]

but you dont know 😉

[desert pebble]

proofs?

[little halo]

one more crazed up message

and i'm about to ping sirh holy crap

[worn laurel]

i wont give any its private

[little halo]

IT'S RIGHT HERE

[desert pebble]

wowwww

idc

[little halo]

hell that's it i'm making one of those political satires

[worn laurel]

for not caring so much you do defend this very hard and make up stats into bs arguments twisting "logic"

see ya im done with this

[desert pebble]

you know what REALLY is a cheat? Time skipping

[desert pebble]

i'm too lazy to continue

[little halo]

@azure turtle sorry for the ping but can you enlighten this person (your paleontologist legend role may help)

(i definitely didn't ping you just as a joke)

(nope nuh uh)

[desert pebble]

enlighten 2 people*

[little halo]

just one

(nnitro5)

[desert pebble]

me and nitro5

[little halo]

i thought you already knew autoclickers are allowed

[desert pebble]

i know, just want to win thy argument

[little halo]

same here

[desert pebble]

also they are

[little halo]

this conversation makes me want to do one of those analogies

or whatever they're called

[desert pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[desert pebble]

my arguments suck cuz i need to find a counter argument fast, so i don't think very much

[azure turtle]

Hmm

Anyway

So the topic is cheating?

[lusty crane]

oops

[desert pebble]

autoclicker

[azure turtle]

Time changing is cheating along with cheat engine (also exploits can be added to cheating category) but autoclicker is allowed (even by devs)

[little halo]

ok so the school department people gave everyone in the school one calculator, and everyone is happy except for one traditional guy, who threw the calculator away. 2 weeks in and the most ultimatest math test had arrived. a student asks the teacher if they're allowed to use calculators, and the teacher said yes. the traditional guy is, of course, very mad. he stood up in rage and asked to disallow calculators. the teacher laughed at him.

[lusty crane]

here proofs

[desert pebble]

i red allat

[little halo]

i spent uhh some time writing that

[azure turtle]

@worn laurel ^^

[little halo]

very cool

[desert pebble]

cool texture

[azure turtle]

Well, they saved time doing that, and it still looks awesome

[desert pebble]

i dond even know whose texture is dat

[little halo]

it's kinda crap tho

[desert pebble]

nah

only some parts r crappy

(white lines)

[little halo]

also can i just complain

on the fact

that every single fcking exoplanet is red 💀

[desert pebble]

fr?

[little halo]

yes

at least that red to orange hue

[desert pebble]

brown planet

[little halo]

brown is a shade of orange

[desert pebble]

but yeah, planets are mostly red 'n orange

[desert pebble]

no

[little halo]

https://youtu.be/wh4aWZRtTwU?si=ZAdAcOzBmlYb6R-c here's a video that hopefully backs up my point (i haven't watched the last half of it)

[desert pebble]

nvm

[little halo]

i mean the first 2 minutes already explain brown is just darker orange lol

[desert pebble]

i googled it already

anyway imma head out

cya

https://tenor.com/view/nileseyy-niles-peace-out-disappear-meme-disappearing-guy-checking-out-gif-25558985

[desert pebble]

Yeah

I knew it was a joke

the resume of what i'm doing on the event:
just seeing other people progress

[desert pebble]

[spare crane]

Did you ever get 3 stas from the constellation research in Beyond? I seem to always get 1 when its 1-3

[reef sage]

Music event is kinda easy..

No complaining tho

[radiant prism]

I got 4 once and 2 a couple of times but 95% of the time its 1 star

[spare crane]

Ye it's not equal chances sadly, constellations are even more of a slog than meso for me

[olive juniper]

Never gotten 3, gotten 2 like 5 times, it's basically always 1s

[radiant prism]

Meso was rough to get 550 but an autoclicker helps that quite a bit. There are a lot of Constellations and I'm working through that 30 fragment one atm and it's taking forever

[spare crane]

I finished Mezo a couple of days ago, but 2 last constellations are just soo slow. 2-3 fragments a day and I need 28 in total. New beyond episode will introduce ne w constellations as well

[radiant prism]

Yeah I see some empty slots and figured it would. I'm in chill mode atm. I just have 2 more dinos to get to 200 and 2 planets to get their final rank

And 2 Constellations

[desert pebble]

talkin' abt beyond, u can try buying stars or idk. They sometimes drop a star, so it may help out a lil' bit

(in constelations)

[radiant prism]

The dwarf stars def help. There's still a ton of fragments to gather, which is good imo. It helps spread the game out so you don't complete everything then uninstall

[tribal marsh]

you're base(d)

[fervent goblet]

Doing a proper spam investigation imo for dwarf stars can be a good idea to try gathering more stars per day

[radiant prism]

What do you mean? Not sure what you meant by spam investigation

[desert pebble]

hi

[short radish]

hi

why am i not getting any role??

i just linked my acc to discord

[rough axle]

you have to manually assign them

[short radish]

ok

i only got 1 role :/

[desert pebble]

bruh :P

[short radish]

sadly

can u give me tips

[desert pebble]

f

[short radish]

??

[desert pebble]

want secret badges?

[short radish]

sure

[desert pebble]

well

you have dancing flatworm?

[short radish]

uhh dont have any metabit things?

[desert pebble]

about metabits in secret bagdes?

doesn't exist

[short radish]

yeah

i didnt buy anything from tokens/i forgot after closing the game

based

[desert pebble]

wait

tt.io

territorial.io?

[short radish]

yeah i play that game

how did u know

[rapid falcon]

Hi

[desert pebble]

i already played it

[rough axle]

youir username

[desert pebble]

After i noted Lyre, Lyre could be Liar, Liar

[short radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1170742093455577228.webp?size=48&name=skullios&quality=lossless

[desert pebble]

I will never be the same

[rapid falcon]

Anyways, ive lost my 1st place bc i sleeps 😦

[desert pebble]

sad

[short radish]

first place where

oh right

[rapid falcon]

Music event.?

[short radish]

this is cell chat

[desert pebble]

bruh

[short radish]

sad

[desert pebble]

idk why my race is always with people that enter the event in 15 by 15 hours

[short radish]

which race are u in

[desert pebble]

eh

[rapid falcon]

Me when i only have 35% simulation boost for Pollination

[short radish]

dm me to -- my name.

[desert pebble]

Me with 5%

[short radish]

i was here before u

[short radish]

u too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1152455727374401586.webp?size=48&name=Boss~1&quality=lossless

[desert pebble]

k

[short radish]

is plugin allowed

[steady dune]

me with 0%

[short radish]

me with -69% https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/763352819746603009.webp?size=48&name=dedchat&quality=lossless

[steady dune]

Oops

[rapid falcon]

i think i might "not" be able to get first place since, its a hard event ;-;

The research is expensive

[short radish]

i will have to eat lunch tmr (one of the devs?)

roasting raynesu (dev): i atleast have an actual role other than dev 💀

[rapid falcon]

Wat.

Did i just see two same msg?

[short radish]

dev doesnt play or test the game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1170742093455577228.webp?size=48&name=skullios&quality=lossless

didnt even link roles

[rapid falcon]

They're prob taking a break.

[short radish]

he only has dev role

[rapid falcon]

Look, researching and building and coding, AND ANIMATING, is hard ok.

[desert pebble]

why almost everyone (on my event race) is hibernating

[rapid falcon]

We have two new things update to the game, let them take a break.

[short radish]

im saying that he can even try the game

[rapid falcon]

U forget beta tester ._.

[short radish]

im not saying to not give them a break

[short radish]

thats for testing unfinished things

i mean raynesu can put linked roles so i can see how much progress he has?

[rapid falcon]

This is why i have 90% simulation boost >:)

[short radish]

i have 100% man

i put it to 100% when i left

[steady dune]

Usually there has somebody rush their progress so fast then have a sleep or just have a free time

[rapid falcon]

Wait, theres 3 badges. I have 6 of it, but u have 7.

Btw i have 175 logits rn

[desert pebble]

true

[rapid falcon]

What am i going to buy ;-;

[desert pebble]

i don't have the badges of the 2 last events because

i didn't have a device to play

[steady dune]

They have played the events before but only gained 1/2 badges

[spare crane]

is there any info about mesozoic valley being developed or is it abandoned at this point and going prestige 10 is all?

[desert pebble]

Anyone know what the max level is in the primary? I need the 50 metabits and am wondering if I should restart the simulation or just wait....

[golden zephyr]

really wish i could sort by cost

[spare crane]

I am exactly in the same spot progresswise. Unfortunately There is no point restarting with this multiplier differences. The only way is to farm badges/do mezo to speed things up with production.

There is no max level as such, the number next to your name is simply amount of metabits mined in e notation (17e15 in notation) On the screen there only a current mined logits multiplier

[random stump]

why is the weekly so slow

waiting 27 hours until i can get the next upgrade

how do you even complete it without spending money on dw cubes?

[spare crane]

yes the upgrades pricing is jumping a lot, slowing it down terribly.

on mobile you can watch ads for x4 muliplier/nanobots etc.

i did it in 1 day

[random stump]

damn i should probably do that

well i'm using an autoclicker and it's still incredibly slow

[spare crane]

yes but x4 total production is insane difference

and ability to spam nanobots

[random stump]

i get 1050/sec

[spare crane]

like i cant imagine playing this game without that, it would probably take several years to finish some of the content

[random stump]

with the clicker

[random stump]

yeah in the primary simulation it will take 18+ years to get the next upgrade (i did the math)

[spare crane]

on steam you could probably play this game until you retire and still not finish this

[random stump]

yeah but not bc there's tons and tons of content

it's just because they slow your production the further you go

which i think is a very strange design for an idle game but 🤷‍♂️

[elfin path]

the game gets easier every time u complete it tho

[spare crane]

that's player retention rate for you. It is completely normal for free games

[random stump]

no, eventually they slow your production

[random stump]

no i mean they decrease your production. not that they don't increase it proportionally

like you are producing millions of metabits/sec, then as you progress they make you produce less and less

which is why it will take 18 years for me to get the next upgrade

[spare crane]

they decrease metabit production, but the events(like music event) get faster the more badges of particular event you collect. That is what @elfin path meant

[elfin path]

exactly

i've done a few events now

[random stump]

yeah sure

i just can't complete events bc they're so slow

i feel like you'd have to run your pc with autoclicker all day

[low abyss]

excuse me, how many badges do you have? because i have everything adquired (except the piramids node) and this is my xboost inscrease

[elfin path]

i completed the music one already

[random stump]

you on mobile too?

[random stump]

just watching lots of ads i assume?

[elfin path]

pc

[low abyss]

why does my simulation have a x10 - speed? 😦

[random stump]

i don't see how that's possible without cheating or leaving autoclicker open for 48 hours straight

[elfin path]

maybe im just built different idk

[random stump]

like i show here. production is 1050/sec, an 8 million upgrade will take 9 hours

[spare crane]

wdym x10 speed? which multiplier are you referring to

[elfin path]

im on 3.52E12/s

[random stump]

okay, you're not answering so i'll ask more directly

did you leave the game open the whole time? how much were u playing?

because my experience with these events is logging on, buying one upgrade, logging off

that's all i can afford

[desert pebble]

i focused too much on beyond...

[low abyss]

the first photo i repplied (four messages above or so) has a x88 speed boost when he reboots the simulation. I only have a x78

[elfin path]

🤷‍♂️

[random stump]

bro is unhelpful 👍

[spare crane]

its dependant on your current multipliers. One major source of the multiplier is the total mined metabits.

[low abyss]

bro i finish my music event in 7 h 55 min just by using the x4 speed and almost no nanobots, is not that hard

and almost no autoclicker also

[elfin path]

i used a couple time warps too

but yeah

[random stump]

i guess the 4x speed just solves it for you then

[elfin path]

it goes quick

[low abyss]

yeah but given that i have everything unlocked i should be on the same level, no?

of production

[desert pebble]

now

what to do?

[low abyss]

and hows your multiplier?

[spare crane]

not exactly

there is this 'total mined' multiplier that is dependant on the amount of metabits you hev mined. The more you mine, the higher multiplier grows

[random stump]

how do you 4x speed

[spare crane]

Which in short means that the other guy has mined more total metabits than you, thats why his multiplier is higher(also badges)

[rough axle]

If you boost it high enough, it changes from 2x to 4x

[spare crane]

yep you mined quite a lot less than him(total)

[sullen geode]

I'm at x100k

[low abyss]

Sorry ill change the notation and language for better comprehensión

[low abyss]

Keep doing It and at some point It goes to x4

[random stump]

alright

[low abyss]

I dont know if i should say but u can bypass the ad

[random stump]

i'm listening..

close the game or smth?

[low abyss]

Search in internet

[random stump]

ok

[sullen geode]

just support the devs, you watch 1 ad for 4 hours of boost....

[spare crane]

ye, its free to play anywasy

[low abyss]

@spare crane Yeah but how can i improve my total mined for more speed if everysecond i obtain less??

Doing a ton of reboots?

[sullen geode]

yes

[low abyss]

But for example i have 28

[spare crane]

tey have this weird logarythimc(sorta) equation. You gain more by reseting short term, but you will in the end(loong end) zero your production

[sullen geode]

I have about 2x total metabits mined and almost 2x the simulations

[low abyss]

And you only 18 and still more x

[spare crane]

wdym 18?

[low abyss]

18 reboots

And still more total mined

And i have more badges

And i have more badges, more reboots but less mined

How is that possible

[spare crane]

i am playing pretty actively

completed meso

i am spending around 1h a day clicking on the comet thingie

fo 30x multiplier

[sullen geode]

also have to take into account when you reached end game....before metabit tuning or after

[spare crane]

and i have all the entropy upgrades from the shop

[low abyss]

Dony remember to be honest

I started playing at the beginning of the year, stopped 4-5 months

Then i catch with It 1 month ago or so

@spare crane I have everthing done and unlocked too

Except the last metabit ofc

[spare crane]

same

[random stump]

well you're 3 resets ahead of me and have 100x my metabits

so be happy lmao

[low abyss]

@random stump Bc i have everything unlocked..

[spare crane]

and mobile boosts help a lot

[random stump]

mobile boost helped a decent amount

[low abyss]

We are talking about metabit peoduction endgame, with mesozoic beyond and logit nodes done

[random stump]

only 40 mins of active tapping to next upgrade

[sullen geode]

they started metabit tuning in June, so people that got to end game before that will likely have higher totals

[random stump]

i've been playing the game for like 3 years man

[spare crane]

i started in september

[low abyss]

@sullen geode shit, so im fucked

Yeah i reached engame later

[random stump]

40 mins of active tapping or 4 hours for 1 upgrade

damn

[low abyss]

When i left the Game i was halfway prestigr 5 in meso for example

[sullen geode]

they are still working on it, it is an ongoing thing

[low abyss]

Yeah but i Saw a Guy that had the 50qa metabit

And for me It seems impossible

[sullen geode]

very active play will always be ahead of the curve

[low abyss]

The moment i reach 10qa It stops

[spare crane]

Yes, i also bought like 500 darwinum in total for beyond and meso uogrades

Kinda helped but only in the short run

I wouldn't really do it again, but it's free game so they can use some cash I guess xD

[random stump]

still dk how you guys beat the event in 7 hours i think i’m missing something here

how many time warps are you doing?

[spare crane]

0

[random stump]

it’s 4 hours until my next upgrade

and that’s with the 4x boost

[low abyss]

X4 since the start and use nanobots

[random stump]

yeah i use them

[sullen geode]

jump out to something else for 10 minutes or so, then come back to exploration and watch the ad for double offline....you'd be surprised at how much you'll progress doing that

[low abyss]

And when u are bored just close the Game

When u go online again sfter 20 minutes u Will have A LOT of resources if you double

[random stump]

ok will do

i’m 4xint my meso rn too bc it’s SO slow

[low abyss]

And also you have to know what to upgrade

[random stump]

log on, buy a dinosaur, log off

[sullen geode]

72.04Udc for my next giganotosaurus

[low abyss]

For example if a upgrade cost 30 and gives you 100% production, but with those 30 you can buy X2 the generator, use the resources to buy more generators not the upgradd

@random stump I dont know what u are doing but sounds terrible. Look at guides on how to optimise mesozoic

It needs a lot of late planning if you wanna have all the achiviements

[random stump]

i’ve been playing for 3 years and i have 30 resets

[low abyss]

Wtf

Bro...

You are not supoose to upgrade every trait to Max level...

[random stump]

i just bought traits when they became available

[low abyss]

[sullen geode]

do you only play like once a month? that is really, really slow for 3 years

[random stump]

so i'm just fucked now or what

[random stump]

i quit for like a year lol

[low abyss]

Look for guides

[random stump]

so i played for a year (a year ago) and then i'm playing again now

[low abyss]

You should be optimizing your run to usé the least amount of mutagen possible

[random stump]

should i just reset then

or just wait 18 years to upgrade my metabits

[sullen geode]

no

[low abyss]

Only upgrading to level 2-3 the tratits every 3 dinosaurs or so

[random stump]

ok so what do i do now

[low abyss]

And in later levels not even that

[sullen geode]

just keep playing, if you feel like it

[low abyss]

Justo complete the first prestige and do properly Next time

[sullen geode]

work on that meso

[random stump]

there's nothing to play

it's just waiting

[low abyss]

I mean you should reach lv 50 10 more times

[random stump]

wdym the first prestige ?

[low abyss]

Hahahahhaha

Poor soul

[sullen geode]

you do meso 1-50, 10 times

[random stump]

bro what

[low abyss]

You are on prestige 0

[random stump]

i buy 1 dinosaur every time i log on

i'm never going to get there

that's super lame that you have to play the game optimally and if you don't you're just screwed

[low abyss]

To complete prestige you should level to scene 50 11 timws

[sullen geode]

there is something hinckey with that

[random stump]

hey by the way if you play the game incorrectly (we don't tell you how) you'll never be able to reach the end goal in your lifetime so don't do that (but we don't tell you that)

[low abyss]

But you keep rare and Epic traits, and also a boost for every prestige so It Gets easier

[random stump]

i feel like i should just reset

since my save file is screwed now

[sullen geode]

that's built in to all idle/clicker games....

[low abyss]

I mean its quite intuitive that you should not boost your early generators...

[random stump]

ah so if i hadn't spend 200 mutagen on archosaur i'd be fine

[sullen geode]

reseting would just waste your time, there is never a hole, you are always going up, just a matter of how steep the climb

[random stump]

rats i should've known

[low abyss]

Explain me the purpose of leveling to lv 9 a early generator that pays the 0,0001% of the ones you have later

[random stump]

the climb where i'm at is decades

and i'm not exaggerating

[sullen geode]

get that ad bonus to x4, hit up the quantum charges on both the tree page and the valley page

[random stump]

quantum charge?

[sullen geode]

park on meso, and slide over to exploration every once in a while to get the offline bonus

[low abyss]

@low abyss its basic maths, its like leveling the sun traits in beyond to level 15 each and complaining that you dont have enough resources to upgrade Alpha centauri

[sullen geode]

the golden crystals/pterosaurs

[elfin path]

wait are we not supposed to level up the cards in the dino sections??

[low abyss]

@elfin path no

[random stump]

yeah man you should've known are you dumb?

[elfin path]

wtf have i been wasting my time on

[random stump]

you should've just realized that intuatively and if you did that you're screwed now

, obviously

[low abyss]

Well if you cheat you can do It !

[elfin path]

lmao im not screwed im just wondering

[random stump]

yeah i mean my options now are cheat or play the game for the next 20 years

or reset

[sullen geode]

nope, 3rd option: adjust how you play and move forward from where you are at

[random stump]

?? that's the second option lol

"play for 20 years"

[sullen geode]

free geodes every 3 hours....you getting those?

[low abyss]

Axording to this you should have wasted like 100000000 mutagen

[low abyss]

With more zeros

So either you have paíd like 50000 € or used a good cheat, congrats hahahaha

[random stump]

i've spend all of my currency in meso in leveling compsognathus for the past 3 days

in order to level up the thing

bc i have a quest or whatever to get 170 of them. that's been all i've spent my money on for 3 days, and i will likely finish when i check back in tonight. that's for one quest on one level of meso

[elfin path]

wait ill send a recording

[random stump]

i have to wait multiple days for each quest in meso valley

[low abyss]

ski, its easy

look a guide

on how to do it

[random stump]

yeah that's from the start tho

[elfin path]

i used an autoclicker here as u can tell

[low abyss]

but dont blame the game, which has been hammering the gameplay loop about exponential generators all the time

[random stump]

i'm already 3 years in

[sullen geode]

focus your expeditures on the generators that give you the most production....I'm sure you have ones that are better than compso

[low abyss]

well you have done in 3 years which can be done in 3 days

[random stump]

well the point is to continue progressing no?

i'm trying to progress toward another extinction

[low abyss]

so yeah thats what happens when you cheat @elfin path

[elfin path]

did someone delete the gif

[sullen geode]

yes, build the production where it is best then the quests will be easier

[random stump]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CellToSingularity/comments/kd6n4t/guide_to_the_mesozoic_valley/

so is this fine

[low abyss]

i mean ski im sorry but

you are literally lv 30

and u are wasting ur currency on upgradinc compsognathus

like wtf

thats not the games fault

[random stump]

yeah to progress the game

[low abyss]

what progress do you expect

its crazy

its like trying to build a rocket with a stick

[random stump]

here my bad

[sullen geode]

dude, buy iguanadons...

[low abyss]

you should first of all trying to get the most profitable dinosaur

[random stump]

ok i bought one

[low abyss]

and you should not upgrade early dinosaurs traits

[random stump]

yep got that part

[sullen geode]

what's your best dino?

[low abyss]

yes, show ur best dino with an automatic trait

just upgrade that one

[random stump]

iguanodon i think? idk

but it's not auto

best auto is spinosaurus

[sullen geode]

ok, then spino?

[random stump]

ok

[low abyss]

can i ask you something

[sullen geode]

focus on buying those as much as possible, then buying compsos will be easy to buy later

[random stump]

alr

[sullen geode]

have to build production first, then you can complete missions

[low abyss]

why would you cheat to have unlimited cards and mutagen but not obtain rare and epic traits

[azure turtle]

So a short guide would be that:
Never upgrade early dinosaurs except at the beginning of the prestige, but max like 2-3 levels, same applies to others, never upgrade cards too much
At the beginning of the rank (Extinction) focus on getting to your best dino and buying it as much as possible, then you start getting tasks done, if needed, you can buy more of your best dino in meantime

[random stump]

do you max the gold traits

[low abyss]

oh the cheat was on that xd

[azure turtle]

The first part is to ensure you'll have enough mutagen for last prestige to get last Dino to 200

[azure turtle]

Always, same for silver

[low abyss]

yes, and bc those keep trhought prestiges

[azure turtle]

Exactly, also when you reach Extinction 50, remember to buy at least 1 diamond geode

It'll help a lot

[low abyss]

look @random stump the thing is for getting all achievements you will need to have 200 giganotosaurs (the last dinosaur)

and for doing that you will need to save AS MUCH mutagen (avoiding wasting mutagen as much as possible) for pgrading the last dinosaur in he last prestige in the last rank

also, a trick

[azure turtle]

Having 4.5M mutagen makes it possible to get it in a week after reaching max in meso

[low abyss]

you should save 300.000 mutgen or so every prestige

average

less in the initial ones, more in the laters

[random stump]

ok

[low abyss]

so there are times when you unolck a dinosaur and bc you upgraded the last one

you should not upgrade the one you have ow

for example

[random stump]

also i spend 150 dw cubes on useless upgrades which sounded good so i have none

[low abyss]

you unlock tiranossaur, you upgrade each trait to lv 4

then the next dinosaur you dont touch his traits

then the next next dinosaur you upgrade his traits to lv 4each

and so

also, dont buy with cubes unless youare rank 50

bc at rank 50 you will get more in the diamond geode

[random stump]

i bought sphinx and lascaux cave (literally threw 150 dw cubes into the garbage)

[azure turtle]

Sometimes one dino can carry you for several ranks, so don't rush upgrading cards

[low abyss]

and one last thing, theres a trick to have as many cards as you want for few mutagen. When you reach a level when you unlock a dinosaur you want to upgrade wait until you have unlocked both traits

then alternate buying cards (the ones right to the misteriout trait) and you will always get traits for th new dinosaur

[random stump]

wait does all this apply to the beyond too

[azure turtle]

Also if you don't have it already, buy Extinction artifact (the volcano)

[azure turtle]

No, not really

[random stump]

i'm saving up for giant squid bc i'm hardstuck in primary

[azure turtle]

You will be stuck even longer than finishing meso, so buy volcano first

[low abyss]

and again, there are tricks to obtaining diamond geodes for free

and no cheating of course

[azure turtle]

Exploits are also kind of cheating tho

[low abyss]

yeah but he is so fucked so i felt bad

i mean 3 years are a lot

is*

[sullen geode]

he isn't fucked...you can't be in this game

[azure turtle]

How's his progress tho? I joined in the middle of the convo

[random stump]

really bad

[azure turtle]

So I don't have much details

[low abyss]

3 years and only lv 30 first prestige

[azure turtle]

Oh

[low abyss]

bc he is upgrading to max traits every dinosaur

whenever he has mutagen and cards ready

[azure turtle]

OH
How the heck

[low abyss]

even the first first one

so ofc he doesnt have any mutagen

[sullen geode]

a change in strategy is all that is needed and progress will jump again

[low abyss]

and btw if you buy early traits the pool for cards gets worse every time

so when you have a geode instead of getting 1 card for early dinosuars you will get as much as cards able to upgrade

[random stump]

260,000 a second waiting on 150 trillion

🙏

[low abyss]

So if you get 200 cards for one geode, if you dont traits upgrade for early dinosaurs you will receive no cards for them

and all the cards for later dinosaurs

but im sure you almost get no cards for later dinosaurs so even worse

[random stump]

ya

[azure turtle]

You're not getting anywhere soon here

Metabits were nerfed

[low abyss]

@azure turtle thats the scenary xd

[random stump]

yeah it's 18 years until i can get the upgrade

or 6 years if i leave the game running for 6 years

[azure turtle]

Level 7 and 8 on first dinos...

It's bad

[low abyss]

yep xd

[random stump]

yeah that's why i want to reset lmao

but they're saying not to

[low abyss]

to be honest yes, you can do it

[azure turtle]

Just keep going here

Still will be faster

Tho you need to stop what you were doing

Unless you don't wanna finish meso

[random stump]

yeah i won't buy upgrades unless it's my current dino

[low abyss]

and dont upgrade traits

more than lv 4

or 5

except for later dinos

[random stump]

🧠

[low abyss]

and that for the first 3 prestiges

later on not even that

[azure turtle]

Focus on a dino like one or two behind until it's not enough to push you further through the rank

[low abyss]

until tiranossaur lv 2-3 max

then lv 4 max unti something like the last 4 dinosaurs

[azure turtle]

You can care only a little about saving mutagen in this run, but after you get to prestige 1, you should start saving dramatically

Of course always upgrade silver and gold

Then you don't care about mutagen

[low abyss]

(in my opinion he should not upgrade aquatic and flying rare ones)

[low abyss]

and if you want other "exploit"

which is not

but its ultra useful

when you have quite mutagen

go to lv 6

and spam mistery trait

[azure turtle]

He's not gonna get many levels on them so he can upgrade them all he likes

[low abyss]

go to the level when you un lock the ammonites rare trait

spam mistery trait

[azure turtle]

Look at pinned messages here too

[low abyss]

and get as many upgrades and cards on that rare card

try to get to lv 13 or so on ammonites

[azure turtle]

There is a more recent guide from Jojoseis

[low abyss]

then when u use autoclicker u will skyrocket

if you use mistery trait when only ammonite trait aviable you will only get that rare trait whenever a rare trait is triggered

and ammonites is the best one by far once you get a high level in that trait

combined with autoclicker

[random stump]

what is ammonites

[low abyss]

the first rare trait, it boost the tap power

[random stump]

yeah i don't have that

[low abyss]

i farmed it for two weeks

you have

im sure

[low abyss]

get it to a high level and then when using autoclicker it was easy to rank up

[random stump]

oh it's ammonoidea

i see

[low abyss]

yes

[random stump]

i don’t even want to tell you how far i am in the beyond

💀

wait you can see it anyway

[azure turtle]

Soo
From the beginning the beyond was out

You progressed 6 ranks?

[random stump]

yup

but i also quit the game for like a year like i said

[azure turtle]

Yeahh, there's a guide for beyond in pins too

[random stump]

i played it like the dinosaurs

buy an upgrade or trait when i see it

which led to the same thing. log on, buy 1 dinosaur, log off

after i do that ~50 times i’ll complete 1 mission. ~30 of those missions and i’ll complete a rank

[sullen geode]

just like with meso, ramp your production up...slightly more complicated than meso though, because your best generator will change frequently

[random stump]

how do i see which is best? just calculate manually?

[sullen geode]

yeah

unless it is really fast, you have to get the dust/s manually...at least it tells you how much in what time

make sure to click the purple auras and grab the golden asteroids

[low abyss]

the last one is the fastest

as easy as that

[sullen geode]

the last one in the episode, yes, but you have to get to it first

[low abyss]

the last one he has

not of the episode

every generator he unlocks is faster than the ones before

[sullen geode]

not necessarily

[low abyss]

lol yes

only the ones with moons or satellites are kind of different but they are more optimal at the end bc of the discount

[random stump]

should i research phobos or dwarf stars?

[sullen geode]

should have phobos done by episode 6, working on mimas

[radiant prism]

@random stump Man reading your progress makes me cringe. No wonder why you quit before. Glad to see ppl are getting you back on track

[sullen geode]

in my just-for-giggles game (episode 7), I have 3 mission slots: one on mimas, one on dwarf, one on dust

[random stump]

uh ok cool

[river wedge]

any code claims?

[limber cliff]

Hey yall, is the cat or dog domestication make more?

[random stump]

i saw a cool game on the app store 3 years ago, downloaded and started playing it

wasn’t googling guides on how to mix-max my playthrough lmao

[sullen geode]

if you get all the neolithic upgrades, it will produce more than the stone age ones

[random stump]

so should i buy giant squid or volcano first?

[limber cliff]

Okay so I should get the cat one?

I have these ones already

[radiant prism]

@random stump You don't need to min/max things. Just buy the next dino/planet...etc. that's available to keep making more currency. You'll complete the tasks as you progress. No need to focus on those until you have the furthest Dino unlocked and making bank. Then go back and get tasks.

[random stump]

yeah i’m doing it correctly now

i just mean before i wasn’t reading guides on the game so i was just playing it

[sullen geode]

where you are at, volcano would give you the most immediate benefit

[random stump]

okay

[random stump]

also i was buying the next dino/planet, that’s the problem

[sullen geode]

then squid and between meso/beyond progress and the squid upgrade you should get to 150t much faster

[random stump]

i was trying to unlock the next thing which was not the right play i’m now seeing

so not sure what that’s supposed to mean

[random stump]

ok got it

hopefully i can finish this event in time

2 hrs until next upgrade so

[sullen geode]

still have a lot of time, how far along are you?

[random stump]

i’ve been playing 4 ish times a day since the day it started

[low abyss]

Yeah but man

You have a lot of notes aviable

[sullen geode]

come back to every 15 minutes, do x2 offline ad and nanobots and watch how much faster it all goes

[random stump]

yeah was ab to spend them

[low abyss]

To at least double your production on instruments

[random stump]

well no

i went from 14,000 -> 18,000 but yeah that’s good

[low abyss]

You should use smart buy

It tells what is the most optimal

[random stump]

pretty sure you’re thinking of value buy

smart buy just rounds it basically

[low abyss]

Yes and no

If u combine

[low abyss]

Valué and smart

[random stump]

value isn’t available in the event for me

[low abyss]

It allows you to buy the most optimal

Like the most amount ready to buy without wssting all your money

[random stump]

yeah but can’t value buy in the event

[low abyss]

So you can still uograde other things

Use smart

Trust me

Get rids of buying the last ones that u would buy if you use max

That are exponentislly expensier to buy

[random stump]

i mean sure but smart buy literally just rounds to 10’s

[low abyss]

Bc 10 its the most optimal

For u

Given the resources you have

That Will allow you to boost instruments

But also buy a lot oftheory or early innovation to boost note production

[random stump]

buying notes barely does anything for me

oh

u said theory yeah i do that

and early innovation

[low abyss]

Buy whatever adds more per second

But have in mind that you have two different currencya

Currencies

[sullen geode]

I finished with x57 instruments

and that was probably a bit more than necessary

[limber cliff]

That's exactly how many I had and I finished first

[sullen geode]

Yeah, once you get Modern Innovations they become obsolete (as does the notes currency)

[limber cliff]

Yeah they do