Challenges github link

[verbal pagoda]

gg

[fair pulsar]

heres for all the challenges world 1

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hard mode

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world 2

[craggy ermine]

wow

[verbal pagoda]

and you ruined it

[craggy ermine]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

at some point pascal would come back with world 3 challenges

[twilit willow]

I don't think so, considering I sent them the link to GitHub in #lounge.

[fair pulsar]

i finished world 3 now im stuck at 4:5 XD

[fair pulsar]

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you guys taught me some things i didnt see like the magma foundation giving 40x more fire demage

very usefull surely for things like combustion, incindiary or even fiery aura

the steini's chain ball is somewhat op lol

massive multiplicator

execution works also very good ngl

[kind hull]

🤔

[twilit willow]

We need to fix things.

[crimson pivot]

Forgive my newbieness, but where is the github link?

[twilit willow]

It's pinned.

[crimson pivot]

=/ I don't see it, just a lot of chat history

[twilit willow]

You don't scroll up 4000 messages.

check_pins

[crimson pivot]

Thank you, not used to navigating discords like this one

[rotund magnet]

i have a problem with c15-3 blueprint not working. I know its a copy of c10-4 but i'm dying on wave ~37 every run even if i added some defense to survive some time i just cant kill any enemies

am i missing something?

[twilit willow]

I see that Yoshi still hasn't merged my Pull Request.
Go to Pull Requests, select "c13-3/c15-3 + fast c7-4", go to Files changed and get the BP from there. (It's on the right side, at Line 936.)

Alternatively, you can use the C15-6 BP.

[tawny pendant]

for convenience (c15-3 / Chaos C3):

• software: "no accel"
• bp

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from per fireball's PR (https://github.com/bluecats-Perfect-Tower-2/bluecats-PerfectTower2-comp./blob/27d5298456127f88a9327feac197621287385c25/Challenges/Hardmode/Pre Era/README.md#Chaos)

[rotund magnet]

i found it in the PR already and it worked, thanks

it was struggling in the end but did it first try

[twilit willow]

Yeah, it does struggle because it doesn't kill enemies in 1 hit.

[verbal pagoda]

fireball what's the desc of c13-3?

[twilit willow]

Yoshi, is reflect thing truly a bug?

[verbal pagoda]

idk

i don't think that you're supposed to just not take damage that you get to reflect

though c15-2

[twilit willow]

Does anyone want W.I.N.C.E.-less c3-3 solution? Takes a real time hour to beat.

[craggy ermine]

from what i wrote down on my solutions

c3-3

For Easy Mode, you will need to turn off all of your resistances down in the Town Stats

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i can't open the game but the instructions make me know what it probably was, and it's disgusting

[twilit willow]

Is Poison Sting that important in C10-6?

[craggy ermine]

i don't think so

idr the challenge

[still barn]

only an hour?

[twilit willow]

Yes.

[dusk hamlet]

where's the link?

[twilit willow]

It's pinned.

[dusk hamlet]

👍

[halcyon spruce]

Chaos challenge 1-2 anyone have hints as to what i need to do i have done every other challenge

[twilit willow]

Reflect + Universal Shield.

[halcyon spruce]

Thank you

[hazy crag]

ey fellas, is there usually a software schematic for challenge completion?

[twilit willow]

For some of them, there is.

Some require no accel, and some of my solutions use #1163605891833139331 to set the software.

[hazy crag]

oki, so it doesn't matter for the rest
just asking cus, yknow, I didn't complete them all

[whole rune]

c11-5 and c11-6 have the same setup

[verbal pagoda]

yes

so does 11-4

unless that one got changed, can't remember

[verbal pagoda]

i didn't want to come up with more solutions and i was told that one worked for all three so i just used it

[whole rune]

and whats that one?

because the one for 11-5 cant be used for 6

[verbal pagoda]

uhhh, normal mode or hardmode?

[whole rune]

nevermind

for some reason i could use it before

but i had moonson aura on level 1

[twilit willow]

Died on 679/700 on C9-1. :/

[twilit willow]

That's quite a few dependencies for something that doesn't get used, like, at all.

[verbal pagoda]

well i guess it's the last one that should be done then

[deep mauve]

Heaven 13, I'm confused on the BP, it has a lot of elec and some fire when the mobs have 100% res to those elements

[verbal pagoda]

which challenge?

[deep mauve]

13-3H

It did get me through normal but hard I die quite quick

[verbal pagoda]

did you disable wave streaming?

[deep mauve]

yes

[gray saffron]

@deep mauve has earned the Spark role!

[deep mauve]

when I import it does show c10-4 Hard, so was more curious that it was in fact the correct BP

[verbal pagoda]

tbh idk

[deep mauve]

ok, i'll play around with it, just odd to me since the description of the challenge states they're 100% resistant to elec, fire, etc, yet there's a ton of elec boosts in the BP, that and the import said c10-4Hard

thanks for lookin at it though

[verbal pagoda]

refresh and import it again

[deep mauve]

that's a whole diff BP will try it, thank you

[verbal pagoda]

yes, it is a whole different bp

[deep mauve]

trying with wave streaming on since i nearly had 100 mobs at a time anyways and it's using reflect, up to 124/600, so far so good,

that did it, ty

[pure belfry]

need help eithj vhllenges in dark realm and such

[pure belfry]

Ello

[twilit willow]

Have you tried reading the pins?

[kind hull]

-# no

[twilit willow]

I assume you need KBoP on during 14-3?

[twilit willow]

Why TF is Offensive Pack in 14-5?

[kind hull]

because yes

[pure belfry]

Yeah

Lol only way I can ascess them is thru pc apantly

[twilit willow]

On mobile you click on the channel name -> Settings -> Pinned Messages. Don't ask why people at Discord put them there.

[pure belfry]

LOA i did fuind one

just dont got modules for ir

moat i need to get gauss cannon and beat clyindr without damage

[pure belfry]

Do I need adamcend heal for gauss cannons?

[twilit willow]

Modules don't affect anything in #perfect-space.

[pure belfry]

I mean unlocking it

[twilit willow]

What are you talking about?

[pure belfry]

Nvm I can find put just got adancer heal

Dam mvm

[pure belfry]

In exotic experiment whst exactly happend when u buy is it Juda speed up?

[twilit willow]

Yeah, it speeds up the timers.

[pure belfry]

What should I spend most on then?

[twilit willow]

Focus on all until they're always filled in, then focus on Timefactor (left) and multiplier (bottom).

[pure belfry]

How to get toxic ivy

[twilit willow]

• Vine Monster - beat Pyramidas a few times. Unlocks Toxic Piranha Ivy, +5% Resource Drops. (5% base drop chance.)

[pure belfry]

So its just a drop chance for the arfaft to module

Or just modulrs

Not. A certain wave

I just beat 10 lol

[twilit willow]

The boss drops an Artifact, which then gives you a module.
Tiers don't affect the drop chance. The amount of kills does.

[verbal pagoda]

to help upgrade modules i guess?

idk

[twilit willow]

But there are no offensive modules!

[pure belfry]

Kills?

[verbal pagoda]

lol, idk

[twilit willow]

However many times you killed Pyramidas.

[pure belfry]

I assume u mean the attsck towers on the prymid

[pure belfry]

Oooooo

I thought tears mattered

Lol sense I got energy and metal plate on 5

[autumn lily]

Yeah I think I got all the artifacts for the bosses when they were T3 or below. No reason to make it harder during your farm unless you want it to be harder

[pure belfry]

Well I can just get the reward to lol

Exotic matter

[boreal dome]

btw challange 15-3 blueprint is gonna be a little bit change cus i tried the old one but can't pass it, i got this one moded. and it is luck base. VZBBTsQwDEWvMuqeSAixIVsW3AGxcFO3sSZ1ItuZ0YC4O0al1bB8337Kd76GsXRsQmw6vJzeh/T4/PB0egOZIphBOocRlNIO2hCPiUCjaSbBPVh7MdJc7XBr54RRWwHNAaYLOB4+rQ2t644TguWr+1FN6IzBLWZfN1DDwNhNoMQkZDu8rsvGW0lfI6aQMpB7HpYSNfstGshrLDQf5gad6YKiGBNYaPWKEmevPIFRZffNUG4RukCYpardTxcBJsP7aAUZy79ErTJGZJTl9lfS+6yV6RMl/P69vzx8fP8A

idk how to make it smaller cus i still dumb when using discord

[twilit willow]

My C15-3 BP will struggle with killing enemies later on, as it doesn't one-shot them anymore.

[boreal dome]

yeah it doesn't one shot them anymore

but hey i got this one and it base on luck

[twilit willow]

You don't need health in this. (Battery Foundation is there so you deal more damage.) In fact, Granite Foundation is likely the reason why it seems luck based - you're attacking slower.

[autumn lily]

so I guess it's finally time to go through HM challenges. thanks for this

[hazy crag]

you lot do challanges
do you think checking if there's 0 enemies will ever a positive when before the challange is finished?

[twilit willow]

Frame 1 of Tower Testing, maybe?

I don't know myself.

[hazy crag]

nope, it doesn't return true on newround, only after a restart

Basically
are some challange blueprints able to clear all enemies on screen before the end of the challange?

[twilit willow]

No, I don't think so.

[hazy crag]

nice
ty

[haughty flume]

The bp for c8-2 hard keeps failing around wave 100 for me

[gray saffron]

@haughty flume has earned the Spark role!

[hazy crag]

and you've got wave streaming off, I assume?

[haughty flume]

yeah

[haughty flume]

c8-6 hard also keeps failing around 200

[twilit willow]

C8-2 can get a little dicey due to Multishot, Basic Bouncing and Rapidfire.
C8-6... you lost either Earth Shell, Electricity Shell or Fire Shell. While the BP does have Heartstopper Aura, that'll be way too slow if you don't use Toxic Piranha Ivy. So if you got the red toxin on TPI, you pretty much have to pray that the enemies will hit you again in 4 seconds or less.

And of course, make sure you aren't missing any modules.

[haughty flume]

still absolutely no luck on 8-6 after dozens of attempts, even tried offsetting where the ivy is placed which someone suggested months ago and still no change

[boreal dome]

ok

[twilit willow]

Took you long enough to respond.

[boreal dome]

srry i'm really busy these day.

[verbal pagoda]

it's really the green toxin you'd have to worry about

[twilit willow]

Why's that?

[verbal pagoda]

green toxin obliterates Earth enemies

[safe lintel]

I had some luck with c8-6 hard mode by adding Google's Influence to the blueprint and using it twice to increase heartstopper's radius and decrease piranha ivy's. Took 21 minutes 40 seconds to complete spamming ivy

[ivory meteor]

8-6 hard doesn't seem to work anymore or it's just random

[autumn lily]

I'm also struggling with a couple of the hardmode challennges. 8-6 HM is one of the ones that doesn't seem to work for me

Also 5-3 HM, 14-1 HM and 15-1 HM

[verbal pagoda]

are you following the instructions given in the github?

[safe lintel]

c8-6 as is on the github has some unfortunate instances where the red ivy knocks the enemies too far back and you lose the shells

[safe lintel]

i tried adding google's influence and it worked first try

[ivory meteor]

The instructions for 8-6 are "Spam Toxic Piranha Ivy"

[ivory meteor]

Didn't work for me

[safe lintel]

did you activate it twice?

[ivory meteor]

Yep

[safe lintel]

must be rng based still then

which wave did it fail at?

[ivory meteor]

Around 200 or so

[safe lintel]

same issue i had then

i'd say keep trying and it's going to work at some point

[autumn lily]

yeah for spam ivy, I'm using the challenge spam AI which does just that and still nothing

I just got lucky and finished 14-1 so only a few left

[autumn lily]

ok so mainly just 5-3 HM and 15-1 HM.
5-3 the AI just fails near the end. hard to tell why it failed since I just die suddenly

[twilit willow]

How exactly does the AI fail?

[autumn lily]

I'm not really sure since it's dies suddenly.
but I have it on 1x buy. no other TT AI on at all. (TE2.2 is running though)

[twilit willow]

TE2.2 shouldn't affect it.

[autumn lily]

The AI manages wave streaming and things too. so not really sure

[verbal pagoda]

c15-1 is just an unfun challenge

[autumn lily]

yeah it isn't fun.
I got up to last wave and then died. I haven't re-run to see why it failed since it takes so long

[verbal pagoda]

from what i know, the bp barely works lol

[autumn lily]

After 5-3, 15-1 is last HM challenge for me. so I'll likely pay attention more to see if I notice anything

🤦‍♂️

too bad there isn't a more reliable solution

[verbal pagoda]

I'm going to see if i can make anything able to survive with tanking

[autumn lily]

5-3 failed while I was AFK 😭 I think it was near wave 400 or more

[verbal pagoda]

i can tank early c15-1 with all of the things, but i have no idea about late

[ivory meteor]

Removing Heartstopper Aura seems to help with 8-6 on hard

[twilit willow]

Okay, I see the issue with that - TPI's green toxin deals Nature damage, which is effective against Earth enemies, so they take more damage from it than other enemies, causing them to die quicker.

[verbal pagoda]

is it air enemies killing you

[twilit willow]

Does 8-6 have Air enemies?

[ivory meteor]

8-6 only has darkness, fire and electricity

[verbal pagoda]

wtf

[twilit willow]

Oh wait, not even Earth...

[twilit willow]

And... which element is killing you?

[ivory meteor]

Both times I actually checked it was electricity

[verbal pagoda]

is Heartstopper just destroying the non darkness enemies then??

[twilit willow]

I mean, it can't be killing them that quickly.

[autumn lily]

463 now

[ivory meteor]

Yeah, bad Ivy RNG can lead to there being mostly darkness enemies which could remove the other elemental shells

[autumn lily]

wave 541 now on 5-3

🤞

[verbal pagoda]

but wouldn't Ivy affect everything equally?

[ivory meteor]

Ivy is but there's only a 25% chance to get the red mist. If you're unlucky then Heartstopper will kill the other two elements and keep darkness alive

[autumn lily]

dead at wave 600 😢

@twilit willow what info would be valuable to look at to see why I died 😭

[twilit willow]

Oh, it isn't buying the final Granite upgrade?

[autumn lily]

off by 1 error

makes sense since it starts at 1 and goes to 300 which is 299 upgrades

I'll change the script to go to 301 and that should fix it

[twilit willow]

Yeah, it should be <=, not <. Or 300 -> 301.

[verbal pagoda]

maybe the offset tip i wanted to commit to the github would be useful then, offset ivy so that not every enemy is in range, this will have to be done manually by changing the ai though

[autumn lily]

was this. yeah

changed it to this:

ok here we go again. 15 minutes 😄

fully upgraded now 👍

wave ~180

[twilit willow]

Seems good, I guess.

The issue is, I believe, in bosses. If 3 or more stack up or some of the later waves, you're probably dead.

[verbal pagoda]

wave 32 is as far as i can get in c15-1

[autumn lily]

nope. still dead at wave 600

even with granite foundation at max

hard to tell behind results window that I can't move, but maybe there are 3 bosses there 🤷

I think I only see 2 though

[twilit willow]

Or maybe 2 is enough, with all the Archers/Wizards...

[autumn lily]

hard to even tell if I had slow. I think slow is cleared from debuff notification on death.

[twilit willow]

Slow doesn't matter.

[autumn lily]

this feels like it's happened to me before.
I think a week ago, I changed the counter to 301 and let this run overnight and I still don't have this cleared.

what else should I look at to stabilize the last wave?

when I get to wave 500+, should I turn off auto wave skip?

[twilit willow]

I'm not sure... I really don't want to add another dependency, though...

[autumn lily]

that would hopefully give it time to deal with bosses

[twilit willow]

Yes, it only has 1, but still.

I'm pretty sure putting Ocean Gift instead of Elemental Resistance would trivialize this.

[autumn lily]

I'll switch that now and try again

[twilit willow]

(Make sure to put Ocean Gift on the 2nd/3rd slot.)

[autumn lily]

granite > adapative > ocean > diamond?

[twilit willow]

Yes.

[autumn lily]

👍

2 bosses early on but survived so far:

[twilit willow]

Early bosses don't matter.

[autumn lily]

good

2 bosses again but doing ok so far:

second to last boss down

and now last boss

and WIN!

should probably update the BP in GitHub to replace Elemental Resistance with Ocean Gift

[ivory meteor]

I found that changing either the X or Y value to 7 or -7 works. 8 could work but it'll be slower than 7 but more reliable

[autumn lily]

@verbal pagoda
here is the updated BP and AI with the fix of logic in AI to upgrade Granite Foundation to 300 and swapping Elemental Resistance to Ocean's Gift

now time for 15-1 ... ugh

Perhaps 15-1 is also about timing Dark Sacrifice kinda like 14-1 was?

I turned off challenge spam AI (I was running that earlier since that is what the GitHub instrutions were) and I'm only using it twice. once of 1st wave and 2nd on 3rd wave so I have a full wave of clear to it. maybe that will work 🤷

[autumn lily]

hey! turning off challenge AI and only using Dark Sacrifice twice worked a treat!

@verbal pagoda another very small update to github for others.

Thanks everyone for all your help!

[twilit willow]

Just as expected.

[ivory meteor]

I have made an 8-5 blueprint that is much faster and more consistent than the one in the GitHub link

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[twilit willow]

...Seems like you reverted my changes to make it pre-Era.

[ivory meteor]

Here's an AI that uses all tower skills but it's only going to use simple heal.

Spam granite foundation at the beginning on x25 until you get 25/500 or more. Then you can either wait for growth to up your health for about 20 minutes or you can go for XP bonus, energy and energy regen

[ivory meteor]

Yeah, I took the current blueprint and optimized it further

idk if it's pre-era or whatever

The one in the GitHub wasn't working for me after several attempts so I decided to make some changes and additions to it.

[twilit willow]

Were you following the instructions?

[ivory meteor]

Yeah, I tried several times but it seemed like that one of the shells (usually electricity) would just have its buff lost for me

[twilit willow]

So what you're saying is that you died to some very big Electricity damage? That shouldn't really happen, unless you're that (un)lucky that you triggered Heatwave so many times in a row. Or maybe it has to do with Something? But enemies were able to hit me just fine with it on the Tower...

[twilit willow]

Nevermind, I know why that happens. Heatwave decides to be very stubborn and doesn't trigger after 15+ uses of Simple Heal.

[nimble geode]

challenge 5-3 hardmode doesnt clarify which software can be active

[nimble geode]

nevermind i got it

[twilit willow]

Cause it doesn't need to - the AI sets it automatically.

[nimble geode]

well i failed at 590 with everything active, and then at 598 with just streaming and surge, i passed it with just auto skip though

[twilit willow]

Updated the AI for C8-5. This one should buy everything automatically (just have the modules tab open). It will misclick on the last Ocean Gift upgrade, though. Just buy it manually.
If you're dying, you got unlucky with Heatwave and you just have to try again. (The BP is the same.)

[twilit willow]

And a small update to C5-3 - it now has Ocean Gift instead of Elemental Resistance. Improves stability by a lot. (Yes, +1 dependency, but I don't think it matters much.)
And the AI automatically turns on x1 buy mode now. (With {click.relative()}.)

[twilit willow]

Nevermind, the AI wasn't setting x25. Now it's fixed.

[sonic ibex]

The BP for 8-2 hard wasn't working for me at all. kept dying by ~250 (/500), sometimes as early as wave 50.

This one worked first try though, if anyone else is struggling with it. #1093959312600203365 message

[tired schooner]

Thanks again for these. I think this is working now.

[mint yacht]

Anyone know the bp for 6-6 normal? or where i can find a list of the challenge mode bps people usually use. I'm not seeing it

[twilit willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1104831301451796602.gif?size=512&animated=true&name=check_pins

[mint yacht]

oh. i thought that was just hard mode for whatever reason. thanks

[mint yacht]

I can't get a lot of these bps because i need era for it. but i need them to unlock the bps i need. what a hassle

[twilit willow]

Most Normal mode challenges can be cheesed with Shield + Barrier, getting Shield upgrades in Trading Post and getting your Crates up.

[mint yacht]

makes sense, but shield and barrier don't help me kill the waves

which seems to be my problem when making my own bps

survival is easy enough. but the enemies become invincible

unless I'm missing something?

[twilit willow]

Ah, I see. I know for a fact that Fire Barrier is affected by Magma Foundation and Fire Focus, since that's what I use on my MT1 save. Not sure if you're able to use Fire Focus (since it also needs Energy), but Magma Foundation definitely can help.

[mint yacht]

I see. I'll work on putting something together. Thanks. I'm trying to unlock fire focus now so after I grab it

[mental ferry]

how can i beat 5-5

[safe cobalt]

by using bp in pins

and following instructions

[mental ferry]

I dont know what im doing wrong its not working

[twilit willow]

What wave do you die on?

[mental ferry]

ive only made it to 55 in 6 minutes

[twilit willow]

Seems normal.

[mental ferry]

yea but I die because frost nova doesnt freeze them long enough

[twilit willow]

Frost Nova isn't the only stunning move here. Bash also does it. But yeah, Frost Nova most likely does more. (Do you have Wave Streaming off?)

[mint yacht]

I skipped that one tbh. I'll do it later on maybe. I skipped 3 challenges I think. That's one of them. Real annoying to do

[potent ginkgo]

and where do i find the challenges, i need some modules for deathcat

[safe cobalt]

pins

top message of this channel

[potent ginkgo]

ty

[potent ginkgo]

what bp do u need to get wince

dont tell me that im in the wrong channel again

[verbal pagoda]

#1094094593991123006 is the only one confirmed by the maker (also you should have asked that in whatever your progression channel is)

[vague oriole]

i have a problem with the list given
i can't get volcano gift because i need modules locked behind other challenges requiring volcano gift (volcano gift -> battery foundation -> something -> neutral burst -> volcano gift)
idk how to do because i can't just go back the chain if it loops like that

[jaunty venture]

just do it without it

[quick quiver]

Do someone have a blueprint info for chall pre era?

[safe cobalt]

pins do

[quick quiver]

Its only for hardmode

[safe cobalt]

and easy mode is easier hardmode

[verbal pagoda]

no because i havent made them, but they are easier than hardmode, so going without the extra modules should work fine

[calm sparrow]

dont know why but for 4-6 the poison ivy don't work so i did one with neutre responce and void

YzYtMTtzaGllbGQuYmFzaWM7Zm91bmRhdGlvbi5kaWFtb25kO3NoZWxsLmFpcjtyZXNpc3RhbmNlLmVsZW1lbnRhbDtleGNoYW5nZS5haXI7cmVzaXN0YW5jZS5maXJlO2JhcnJpZXIuZmlyZTtmb3VuZGF0aW9uLm1hZ21hO3Jlc2lzdGFuY2UuYWJzLmFpcjtnaWZ0LnZvbGNhbm8=

[calm sparrow]

again for 6-2 don't why don't know how but it seems like it didn't work or maybe it would have work after the heat death of the universe so i just add attack

VccxDoMwDAXQq6DsZOjAQI5SdTDhk1iNHOQYgYR6dxaqqtt7p5vKhlVZrLmxe7o49I+w1E1mMq7ik5KwIbSMUjyx3trJoAFHzCQJHqSWf11YEciM4vvPhVO2b9oKzO71uQA

oh yeah it work for the normal (dont know for the hard part)

[verbal pagoda]

do you know why it didnt work?

[calm sparrow]

my best guess is i was incredibly unlucky beacause i didn't have the red mist after 15 activation

[gray saffron]

@calm sparrow has earned the Spark role!

[calm sparrow]

but i not going to lie the math say that i have better chance at winning the lottery so i don't know why it happen

but i can atleast assure you that my solution work witht the ai that is given in the github

[verbal pagoda]

not really, its a 1.3% chance to miss 15 times in a row

[calm sparrow]

oh than i did my math wrong

and i was incredibly unlucky

[verbal pagoda]

did you die?

[calm sparrow]

nah

but i didn't do damage

more like little to no damage

[verbal pagoda]

thats because you werent getting red toxin, red toxin is the only way you can really kill enemies in most of these bps

[calm sparrow]

yeah i guessed that

that how most challenge solution with poison ivy work

by most i mean all them

so yeah i didn't have it beacause of incredible bad luck

but my solution is more consistante

and not luck based

same with 6-2 not enough damage and the only comment i found was to lower the resistence in my town and don't know what that mean

so i just made it do attack that are hyper effective against both type

[calm sparrow]

for 3-4

it ask for something

and that i tide too much

just use toxic ivy

TY/NbsMwDINfpch9vmyn+VGKHRSbjY06ciDJTYti7z4H/VluJPFRoO7DWBoWyWw6fB+OQ/j8+DokkuhPtXEky5XdJMTZsI9iprly9LiGRDzBrWSQfxtJzgxVL5jAkEdLULq4oKea1YjDq7gLdtV3hoIZbFS8JpTyLD30m6cm5BJITK0uSwciTmCFG1tZO+WZrAn6P3W15Ldd082NpDm8zH6u12W7b/WaQ77cPJlROLtQ57HpBgw/v38=

[twilit willow]

I assume it's not being used because of survivability issues, but I'll check that one.

[calm sparrow]

ah no i survive but it take so much time

[burnt gazelle]

just got to doing 8-6 Hard too, this really should be mentioned as part of the solution

(also my luck sucks if u compare the time with that image)

[burnt gazelle]

7ZZLasMwEIavYrRujdKSB12FrHqHOgtFGgvRWDJ64EUI9Ci5Sy6WkZIYOzjQZaHa/DCa169vNQfiuFWtd+Sj+DoQxr0yOgWkCpTOVt50YMvGiLCHMjhojVOxptpxLPRM+1hH35LOktKRjuvmw9z5tJ5oSEpeiquB5aMBdZv2y/1pUC1Bg1W87Jh67Hx/ZmGoxbo3lIlkIpnIHyNy/slIMpKMJCP5f0j6OdJ4M+lg6itbbN0FIcHjsUcxwD6h+usvplXThr2D6zUoWQOlhs6aoEXq1viCKbJ6XRSfzIpopmX8m8n0HEMks7nvqBnOOm6PFw==

the script can most likely be condensed in some way ;)

[verbal pagoda]

there, its mentioned

[dusky bridge]

is there a alt for poison ivy ? i cant shoot the boss due to medical reasons

[jaunty venture]

no, poison ivy is a very unique and extremely powerful module

[dusky bridge]

guess i'm not completing challanges than

[dusky bridge]

nvm got it , i hope the pain is worth it

[verbal pagoda]

wince is sometimes able to be used as a substitute

[dusky bridge]

trying to get it now

[unkempt pollen]

Really ought to be updated for the modules you can take out, for normal mode

[verbal pagoda]

i might as well just finish that part of it honestly

i only have like 87 more challenges to finish

[unkempt pollen]

I can help

Some you can just copy over, cause you get all of them pre era

[verbal pagoda]

many will be

some will come from my mt0 save

[unkempt pollen]

Need something feasible for 3-4

that says post-era, and uh

the build also doesn't work for normal by just leaving those out

[verbal pagoda]

it does work if you just get trading post health or resistance to the elements

[unkempt pollen]

and for 3-6?

[verbal pagoda]

what's missing?

[unkempt pollen]

It says post-era on it, so, 4 of the modules I don't have. One is wince, and the others are ERA

[verbal pagoda]

name them for me

[unkempt pollen]

One sec

Bulwark

Growth

Division Shield

[verbal pagoda]

just more health for those three

div shield is exotic experiment

[unkempt pollen]

Still, wince is going to be a nightmare

I don't even have Chaos Impossible unlocked

and, I have nowhere near enough gems from the exotic experiment

[jaunty venture]

yeah its not recommended to start it unless you run a lot of bosses

need at least 1000

[unkempt pollen]

So, I need to come up with some other solution...

[verbal pagoda]

other than wince, the modules can be circumvented with health, wince can maybe be circumvented with TPI

[unkempt pollen]

TPI?

[verbal pagoda]

toxic piranha ivy

[unkempt pollen]

I'll try it out in a sec, I'm gonna go rq set up light experiment

[unkempt pollen]

VY3BCsIwEER/peRuLoIH8yniYZOM6UK6KZu0WIr/bqUK9Ta8GeatxucJo7K0aq7dzYTz6dL1pNEpEgRKjYtYRd7CDPcok8SdRaahSDyipCTc/lYDqc9wdUTOtpUnB54X93lOi/VUOXw7Rdi8Cb/u6Df31xs= beat it using this build

Recharge surprisingly wasn't all that helpful

[unkempt pollen]

1-5 seems broken

I got to wave 6, and saw the enemies taking 0 damage from TPI

[twilit willow]

You need a red toxin.

[unkempt pollen]

so it's rng based...

[twilit willow]

Just a slight amount of RNG involved.

[unkempt pollen]

it's a 1 in 4 chance

[weak torrent]

keep in mind that if you're trying these in normal mode, it's worth trying even with missing modules

half the time your town perks and other town bonuses will see you through. it's only An Problem (sic) in hard mode where you don't get those bonuses

[twilit willow]

Unless the modules you're missing are the only killing modules.

[weak torrent]

well yeah

but if you're in that situation, make a substitution

the aforementioned "TPI in place of Wince", for example

[verbal pagoda]

it's the funnier solution

[weak torrent]

technically it's less rng than wince, it's just you're spending more time waiting on cooldowns

[unkempt pollen]

I love how 11-6's blueprint is titled 11-5

[verbal pagoda]

yes it's the same bp

so is c11-4

[unkempt pollen]

copy paste much

[unkempt pollen]

Struggling on 6-5

[unkempt pollen]

Yeah, TPI is just unsuable, it makes it into an RNG mess

[verbal pagoda]

tpi is my favorite module and i cant use it in the no rng run so im sad

[unkempt pollen]

Please tell me there's a better solution than RNJesus 6-5

[twilit willow]

What's 6-5 again?

[verbal pagoda]

provably

[weak torrent]

ah but is it (the theoretical better solution) both availabke pre-mt8 and good for hard mode?

[verbal pagoda]

maybe?

idk about hardmode

[unkempt pollen]

goat spam

[unkempt pollen]

this is the bottleneck for me

[vast merlin]

my toxic piranha ivy isnt doing damage

im trying to do 1-5

[verbal pagoda]

you need the red toxin

[vast merlin]

ok thanks

also whats the ai for in the github

[verbal pagoda]

it just spams skills

[vast merlin]

thanks

any way to make 1-3 Hard faster?

[verbal pagoda]

not really

[vast merlin]

any got a 1-6 build?

the one on github only has 4 defence modules

[twilit willow]

And?

[vast merlin]

the level allows more

[twilit willow]

So what?

[verbal pagoda]

ok? it works fine

i don't see a real way to improve it, it's already consistent and quite fast, i see no reason to add bloat

[fresh dust]

is 1-3 meant to be insanely slow ?

[twilit willow]

Well, Heartstopper Aura is slow, so yes.

[queen sundial]

C13-3 BP?¿

[twilit willow]

What about it?

[queen sundial]

In github link, the challenge 13-3 doesn't work

[queen sundial]

i have disable it

[twilit willow]

Then what's the problem? Are you dying?

[queen sundial]

No, im not recieving damage, but i dont kill any cube

we are all inmortals xd

[twilit willow]

Well, then you didn't disable all required ones.

Is this one at 0?

[queen sundial]

basic= neutral no?

[twilit willow]

Nope.

[queen sundial]

oh

my mistake

ok got it

[sage panther]

um how do i do this i realised how, thanks

[fresh dust]

how do you beat c 5-5 copied the bp but it feels impossible still

[jaunty venture]

do you have the software off?

[verbal pagoda]

i think this one might still have some luck with it? idk why

[fresh dust]

i have all speed things off besides x2 speed , is there ai to spam the skills ?

[twilit willow]

There is an AI at the very top of the compendium.

[fresh dust]

it doesnt spam any of the skills ?

[twilit willow]

Do you have the AI overlay on?

[fresh dust]

yes

[twilit willow]

Is the script active?

[fresh dust]

yes

[twilit willow]

Do you have enough Energy to use the skills?

[twilit willow]

Well, the script hasn't been activated.
Turn the AI overlay off and on again. (The script has an impulse of Wake Up.)

[hazy crag]

hey hey, the blueprint compactor is in a stable enough state that I can start working on the universal challenge solver again (woohoo XD)

this essentially means that I need to record what each challenge blueprint needs

So, there are challenges listed as no instructions
Some with "no software" or "x software"
and
Some with spam "x spells"

question is, when there are no instructions, do I take that to mean I can activate all software or is there some rule in the instructions that... even tho it says no instructions, it actually means don't have "x list of software" enabled?

[twilit willow]

If it doesn't say anything, you can leave all software on.

[hazy crag]

marvelous, ty

[hazy crag]

alrighty... C4-4

No Wave Acceleration softwares

it says softwares, which makes me think there's multiple software to disable
Is there a list that says which ones to omit?

[twilit willow]

Pretty sure it's just Wave Streaming?

[hazy crag]

No Accel = No Wave Streaming

but it doesn't say no accel, it says no wave acceleration softwares

if it just means no accel it'd be super convenient

is the solution for c3-5 to place toxic ivy at (0, 0) or on the yeti?

[twilit willow]

What yeti?

[hazy crag]

oh, olaf

[twilit willow]

Probably on him directly.

[hazy crag]

I'll keep it at the offset of 0.0, 0.6 then

[hazy crag]

huh, that's tricky...

fireball, do you still have the source code of your c5-3 bp AI?

[twilit willow]

Yeah, I do.

[hazy crag]

perfect, thank you sm

I just need it for the relative positions... and to not have to decipher click purposes

[hazy crag]

aww man, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think that the relative vector for the slider is off

[twilit willow]

We don't need to click directly on the slider to scroll.

Not sure about those, though...

(Well, should work fine, since not fully upgraded modules take up more screen space than the fully upgraded ones.)

[hazy crag]

ah, 5-3

why do I keep making this istake

from what I can tell, the clicks are meant to

• change to buy x1
• scroll up to the top
• buy granite foundation
• buy adaptive regen
• buy ocean gift

is that right?

oh, I did not know that the entire upgrades menu is a scrollbar

[twilit willow]

Regen and Ocean Gift are on the same step, but yes.

[verbal pagoda]

given how it is the c11-5 import, that is strange

[twilit willow]

You sure this is 11-6?

[spiral nexus]

oh

maybe not haha

sorry for that

[weak torrent]

going through these on an mt4 save
c2-6 Non-Wince solution asks for Captain's Reflect, which is from c15-4... which asks for Wince anyway.

[verbal pagoda]

lol

[native rain]

im having issues with metalic ruins challenge 6, i can only make it to 185 before i die, it beat normal but its not doing hard mode

[twilit willow]

It has been reported to be finicky before. Maybe I'll look into it. Maybe.

(Maybe someone else would. Who knows?)

[native rain]

I’m also having issues with 15-5, i had to add wince and health regen to be able to beat it on normal, I don’t know how hard does but I’ll try it out in a bit here, all of the other blue prints are good though, I’ve used every single one and been able to make it to the very end!

[twilit willow]

That's the wrong approach to 15-5, as it should not care about your health. Have you read the instructions?

[native rain]

Okay yeah I didn’t read the instructions, I thought it just said no accel and that was it, that’s on me

I also used accel so that’s probably why

[twilit willow]

Yeah, both of those contribute to the fact that you were failing the challenge.

[native rain]

If you can’t beat it, brute force it!

[weak torrent]

I feel called out

[tropic geyser]

C15-4 do you thinks its possible with void ? I wants to try it but dont know how to tank well enough

[twilit willow]

In Normal mode, probably will be possible. In Hard mode, I don't think you have enough Energy.

[tropic geyser]

Atm im just at normal mode, that just to get the captains reflect and then you can snowball some better thing to get the real BP

[native rain]

I’ve come to realize I’ve been using a different github challenges guide

That’s probably why I didn’t pass 15-5 since it doesn’t have instructions on turning off the damage stuff

[twilit willow]

It didn't? Then yeah, it was very much outdated.

[native rain]

Idk where I must have grabbed that one from but I did somewhere, weird, but now I can do challenges for real!

[tropic geyser]

don't know if that interest someone, but i did it the c15-4 norm with Void so no W.I.N.C.E

VVHLTsQwDPwV1DuRVoIL+RTEIW0mbYRrV07SZYX4d1zafXBJbGseGee766lh0cy1dG9P791wen1+eWLR2ZcFRG6VHH2ZMii6xnmFlkB+CNUtcob6up2utMXO08FRlEW4wDFaVYODoePF9aHk4dooxq0KNQsfvEGEMo9XRCI5e3wNU+DxrmXiudTAw33Ukwyfty5J4/gn62IOs3D0QWdRc0yZEf2YU3VJTKg+gksF/rHnoD3h0RCEGVzNJDQNLqmYRETCFtYw/aJYDbBFuo77RoS6qEi6zezOm+CR+xw0ujJZiC39sex9WY9bsgBkxYrdPeqFUcreNJ6ELh6rsQy5k28vm0DV/gpB6+RGDSuo+/j5BQ==

its some macro with the skills ( and don't know how to create a AI for it)
but just use neutral resp when every enemies is on screen, shock before void to give some leverage

super tower and cooling cell just here in case

it can be upgrade can putting something else on the skills/ shield but it works

you can't do the hard, but with the captain reflect you can get the real BP

[weak torrent]

due to the high energy cost of void this would depend on arcade progress

[tropic geyser]

I didn't know that arcade has a thing to do in the energy

[gray saffron]

@tropic geyser has earned the Ember role!

[tropic geyser]

But okay ! That why i thinks this BP need more tunnings before its good

[weak torrent]

yeah one of the arcade exotic skills gives you more energy/energy regen based on tokens

obviously that doesn't help for hard mode but hard mode isn't exactly availble at mt4

[tropic geyser]

Right now im mt7 that why i talk about hard mode but yeah it doesn't help

[weak torrent]

on the one hand, mt7 should be able to get wince anyway (might be better to push to mt8 first and then come back for challenges)
on the other hand, getting HM builds that don't rely on wince is always a good thing

[tropic geyser]

I didn't event know, that one do this maybe it did change a thing during the run but a was at only 1e4 token

[tropic geyser]

(I didn't have found any methods to get wince at the moment that why I did the BP)

[weak torrent]

there won't be any publicly posted builds for getting wince per the creator's request

[tropic geyser]

Yeah i know, didn't ask for one ! Just saying x)

[weak torrent]

it's less difficult than it sounds, and you have all the tools you need to do it. especially since you're mt7 and can make module levels as high as you can afford

[tropic geyser]

Yeahhh if i really wanted to i think i can, but i love the idea to get it with the void and neutral resp x)

Right now ! I post something that i hope will help some other people so i go back to the farming

[drowsy shadow]

the read me under easy mode is blank?

[twilit willow]

It's incomplete, but there should be some BPs.

[drowsy shadow]

there's nothing under easy mode at all

[verbal pagoda]

tthe ones ive done are under a ppull request, its just the first 2 regions

[verbal pagoda]

thats a de-winced challenge

[tropic geyser]

how the fuck did you get it to work, from my side its just don't do any damage

[twilit willow]

#1344722486683500574

[tropic geyser]

might need to tell on the github ? x)

[twilit willow]

Did Yoshi update the solution?

[tropic geyser]

yup

[twilit willow]

Then yeah. @verbal pagoda, mention that you need to disable Water/Darkness/Basic resistances in Stats.

[tropic geyser]

and museum*

[twilit willow]

Stats include those.

[tropic geyser]

when i disable stats it doesn't disabme the museum i have to unequip them directly

[twilit willow]

I dunno, looks disabled to me.
[(Most of the boost comes from #infinity-phase.)]

[tropic geyser]

oh didn't see this ont

[twilit willow]

Well, it's not on Basic resistance, but it is on <element> resistances.

[tropic geyser]

didn't scroll that far down x)

[tropic geyser]

juste aking but for the 10-6 did some test isn't it easier to get it without the neutral resistance/universal resistance, i say that because its doable with reflect, refined armor and forest gift in remplacement

I juste think neutral resistance is pretty hard to get x)

[twilit willow]

Well, not really, you can get modules from 11-4, 11-5 and 11-6 with the same BP.

[tropic geyser]

Sorry i was talking about the generic resistance, i switch the name

[twilit willow]

Generic Resistance... yeah, that requires a bit of progress in Exotic.

[tropic geyser]

Yeah that why I think it would be better to have a soluce without this one

[twilit willow]

The problem with Reflect is that it deals Neutral damage, so it can't be used for C10-6.

[tropic geyser]

I put it by habit but if it serve no purpose can just dont put it, It still do the c10-6 hard with this BP

I have to try with less resistance to be sure that it just not because of that

with no res on the stat town and museum, a lot less that first try and still did the hard with all software on, still thinks that better than with generic res

[verbal pagoda]

you need to disable all the stats by clicking on the stat and clicking each individual multiplier

[tropic geyser]

That what i did already, i disable all elementary and non elementary

[verbal pagoda]

no, im going to push the normal mode ones ideally next week so i dont want to do it

[native rain]

I figured out how I got onto the different guide, I was using yoshi’s version which is outdated on hard mode compared to the active one I believe, but I could be wrong,

I had opened normal mode challenges since that was my original intention to complete and then I just stuck with the guide

[slim plaza]

Is there a listing of BP'

Is there a listing of BP's for the "easy" challenges?

[fallow basin]

currently no, but the hardmode challenges work for both modes

[hazy crag]

just use the hard mode ones

[slim plaza]

do some of them take a long time? There are a few i've tried but it doesn't look like any damage is being done

[hazy crag]

are you reading the text linked to the blueprint that tells you what to do to make it work?

[slim plaza]

I have been, and I can get several, but most of just not working.

I'm missing something but don't know what.

[hazy crag]

could you give an example?

[verbal pagoda]

if you Hover over the bp name you should see what is missing

[slim plaza]

I know which ones are missing the modules and try, but usually skip those until I get the correct parts.

Ex: When I try 3-3 it only gets to wave 4 and then doesn't progress any further

I have all the modules and stats as high as I can get them, like the Power stones and bonuses

[verbal pagoda]

are there any instructions on it?

[hazy crag]

nope

[vague magnet]

Are you missing a module?

[hazy crag]

do you, mayhaps, not have w.i.n.c.e?

[verbal pagoda]

can someone give me the bp?

[vague magnet]

Where Is the link?

[verbal pagoda]

it's pinned

[hazy crag]

YzMtMyBoYXJkO2F0dGFjay5zcGVlZDthdHRhY2sucmFwaWRmaXJlO2ZvdW5kYXRpb24uZGlhbW9uZDtzaGVsbC53YXRlcjtzaGVsbC5kYXJrbmVzcztyZWdlbmVyYXRpb24ucmVsYXRpdmU7cmVmbGVjdC53aW5jZQ==

[vague magnet]

For some reason i can't see pins on mobile xd

[slim plaza]

I have the modules it says to use. I've tried W.I.N.C.E. but the best I got was wave 88

[hazy crag]

attack speed
rapid fire

Diamond foundation
water shell
darkness shell
adaptive regen

w.i.n.c.e

[vague magnet]

A wince based bp, it will take a while

[verbal pagoda]

RcjLCsJADEbhVymzdzbdOY8iLuLMPxca0pKkKkjfXUHB3XfOK9x4x6ZD3MJ5uoQ8n+apk5ZE7pSXaBtQknUwxwc59OdCugjMUkGFGKKiMrInPHMnaYh1KP7Fo3VPdd2lkI9VYlOS4UiKBoF+p4I/uCNcjzc= try this with #1344722486683500574

[slim plaza]

Attack Speed
Water Shell
Darkness Shell
Reflect
Fire Exchange
Light Exchange
Granite Foundation
Adaptive Regeneration

[hazy crag]

it's pretty hard to make a wince solution not work... does it actually die or not?

[hazy crag]

well, that's not the solution for 3-3

[vague magnet]

What

[slim plaza]

that's what's one the website

[fallow basin]

#1141697139483889664 if you don't know how to use this code @slim plaza (?)

[slim plaza]

https://github.com/bluecats-Perfect-Tower-2/bluecats-PerfectTower2-comp./tree/main/Challenges/Hardmode/Pre Era#Winter

[vague magnet]

Is there a way to put the import code somewhere and see what modules the bp has?

[verbal pagoda]

that is the bp there

[verbal pagoda]

a base 64 decoder with inflate

[vague magnet]

Xd

[hazy crag]

the heck did I import XD

I guess I was just looking at the outdated page

[verbal pagoda]

you need to use #1344722486683500574 to get rid of resistances

[fallow basin]

base64deflate**?
also, added to #1140860422682062908

[slim plaza]

no luck, still stuck on wave 4

[verbal pagoda]

show me you town stats

[slim plaza]

what section?

[fallow basin]

📊 in town

Resistances

[verbal pagoda]

resistance, all 11 of them

[slim plaza]

with all on

[verbal pagoda]

that's only ten of them, and i do want to see them all off

[fallow basin]

Click all of them to turn them off

[hazy crag]

and there's also general resistance that you should turn off

[slim plaza]

It is 8.701e7 when I, zero when off

[hazy crag]

all resistances off

[verbal pagoda]

it should be fine then

[hazy crag]

try the bp now

[slim plaza]

its making progress now, thank you

[hazy crag]

should probably mention on the repo that it's a reflect bp

[twilit willow]

Already asked that a few times, still yet to happen.

[strong light]

Can't win on 3-3, always lose last wave.

[hazy crag]

is this a hard mode or normal mode challenge?

[strong light]

Normal.

[hazy crag]

{"blueprints": ["c3-3 hard;attack.speed;shell.water;shell.darkness;defense.reflect;exchange.fire;exchange.light;foundation.granite;regeneration.relative"]}
```it looks as tho it uses reflect, so you should try and disable your resistances

[strong light]

How do you disable the resistances? You already use the mods that multiply your dmg taken.

[hazy crag]

if you don't know how to disable your resistances, here's the FAQ
#1344722486683500574 message

also, if you looked at the conversation above, you'll see how to disable resistances

[hazy crag]

oh, same blueprint too XD

[strong light]

Lost with disabled resistances.

[weak torrent]

on what wave

[strong light]

Last wave.

Like before.

[weak torrent]

what mt are you up to?

[strong light]

8

[vague magnet]

both normal and hard completed without inconveniences, so cant be a stats problem; can i see your disabled statistics?

my only assumption is that theres some active statistic that let the final enemies hit you more times than expected

[hazy crag]

or, if it's easier for you, record a run so we can see what's happening XD

[weak torrent]

we worked around it with a blueprint that wasn't Hard-viable (stopped me at Hard 250 but it got him through normal)

[hazy crag]

can we get the export code?
it can be plopped into the easy mode solutions

[weak torrent]

pY1BCsIwEEWvErLWbLozRxEX08zUDkwnZZJWRLy7EbUgLl3+x+e9m+9lodlYa/EHd/Sp23dOs00grofCKfZgxmSBhFI1TlyvcciLIlTOGpBhyorbTfg81lhGJsHwMrzHorySFRC/c18dMvirAtMsPDS8AVxBE+FP+QOQVy7NG42GZzBcuP396f4A

requires trading post support (but most of my "solutions" do that anyway)

[vague magnet]

time for a disable stats ai

[verbal pagoda]

no right click

[vague magnet]

why right click?

[verbal pagoda]

idk, i forgot what actually was needed

[vague magnet]

ah XD

both show details and toggle uses left

not sure if can be triggered with ai click xd

[weak torrent]

we really need "disable category"

which I think has been suggested already

if you're in there disabling CFirm boosts you're going to be in there disabling all the other boosts anyway

[vague magnet]

yeah is kinda strange that theres no "disable all" option xd

or like disable the base xd

well that only would work on non 0% base stats xd

well at least in esence the click ai can disable stats

[hazy crag]

ah, c6-4

**C4**

Made By: yoshi128986

**Turn off:** Wave Surge, Wave Vortex, Wave Horizon, Wave Breach and Infinity Horizon.
```is this condition different than `no Accel`?

[weak torrent]

yeah; wave accel has a cap but all those softwares remove that cap

wave accel by itself is safe on c6-4 but uncapped accel isn't

which it's weird that anything past wave surge even works outside of endless

[hazy crag]

wait, which one works?

do both work?

is basic the pre-era version?

[weak torrent]

yeah basic is pre-era

in theory they both work but basic needs more support from the trading post (they both need TP support to get to 350)

[hazy crag]

and any rules?

No Accel, No Resistances?

[weak torrent]

it's barriers so no restrictions on software/resistances

you turn off resistances when using the hardmode bp for normal because capital-R Reflect is based on inbound damage; these only care about max shieldpoints

[hazy crag]

ok, that's all there is to know?

No Resistances and relies on tradingpost boosts

[weak torrent]

that's it

[hazy crag]

you edited it, does it also mean no accel?

[weak torrent]

it's barriers, so accel is safe

[hazy crag]

oh, ok then

[weak torrent]

you turn off accel to keep monsters from swamping the tower faster than you can kill them and this bp doesn't mind being swamped

(what we need to do is put together a list of challenges that can be beaten on normal with just barriers, to speed up those who do the challenges in Era)

[hazy crag]

made just a few changes

[weak torrent]

don't h11-4 - 6 all use the same blueprint?

[hazy crag]

yea, I forgot that I changed that XD

Oh, forgot to mention that I updated the names of solutions c11-4 c11-5 and c11-6 to their appropriate names. They were all called c11-5

[weak torrent]

oh mine isn't "no resistances" - barriers only care about max shieldpoints.

the only non-module thing it cares about is the trading post

[hazy crag]

ah, I thought you said no resistances XD

[weak torrent]

I said "no restrictions on resistances" which probably was a confusing way to say it

[hazy crag]

my dyslexia won

well, I can't really change it now cus I need to rename the repo to push and pull from vscode

(it dislikes that it's trying to access bluecats-PerfectTower2-comp..git) the extra dot is messing things up

[verbal pagoda]

RcjLCsJADEbhVymzdzbdOY8iLuLMPxca0pKkKkjfXUHB3XfOK9x4x6ZD3MJ5uoQ8n+apk5ZE7pSXaBtQknUwxwc59OdCugjMUkGFGKKiMrInPHMnaYh1KP7Fo3VPdd2lkI9VYlOS4UiKBoF+p4I/uCNcjzc= does this do c3-3 with disabled resistance stats

[weak torrent]

is that one of mine?

nope that's not mine

[verbal pagoda]

it's mine

[weak torrent]

I'll check, give me a moment

I wonder if the breakage isn't software-related? I got it done just now but I have mt13 softwares available, while the complainant only had mt8

let me check that actually

seems to be a software interaction - with no softwares that dies on 274, but with mt13 softwares it clears just fine

[verbal pagoda]

what about wave surge and streaming

[weak torrent]

checking now

that cleared

okay now i'm confused

why is it clearing with surge+streaming but dying halfway through without

peak damage shouldn't change since you have to deal with wave 350 either way

[verbal pagoda]

shells if i had to guess

[weak torrent]

then it should work fine with just disabled resistances since just wave streaming by itself is enough to keep the shells up

[warped axle]

Where do I get diamond formation

[verbal pagoda]

metalic ruins, region 8

[warped axle]

thank you pookie

[warped axle]

Can I get modules on endless mode?

[jaunty venture]

yes

[warped axle]

very cool

[weak torrent]

Alright I finally actually sat down and checked which challenges can be beaten with barriers and the like on normal mode.

turns out it's more than you'd expect if your trading post is good (and/or you're in Era)

this was tested on my mt4 save using Air Barrier as the default element

[twilit willow]

What's your Crate amount?

[weak torrent]

given the crate requirements this is more intended to be "wait if you're in Era use Advanced Shield"

[twilit willow]

That... might be a bit too high, even for an #era-phase player, but I guess that unlocks there.

[weak torrent]

My shieldpoint bonus makes basic shield comparable to a more normal player's advanced shield

so this should be a good rule for players in Era who haven't finished challenges yet

[verbal pagoda]

i already consider 743 health to be relatively high, geez

[twilit willow]

743 health from TP? That's easily achievable.

[verbal pagoda]

i mean, idk how much stats are actually needed for challenges past r6

[weak torrent]

here's the full sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGJ7d3eAyttqzhWhoy8kDxdzBi78FM2cazxgPHtmzrE/edit?usp=sharing

also I want a better comment for group J but don't want to just outright say "use c15-2 hardmode solution"

[verbal pagoda]

neither of my saves know what is easily achievable in trading post

[vestal igloo]

no easy mode?

[hazy crag]

there are a few, not many

[vague magnet]

but practically all hard mode builds works in easy mode too

[vestal igloo]

whenever i try out the bps for like, desert 2-3, i keep seeing missing modules all over

most of the missing ones are locked up behind challenges...

[twilit willow]

You can cheese most Normal mode challenges by using Shield + <element> Barrier, and grabbing Shield upgrades in Trading Post.

[vestal igloo]

i'll try that...

[vague magnet]

also most of the missed challenge modules can be ignored in normal mode; since are resistance related and with enough progression, the lost resistance can be substituted with town stats

[modern roost]

Wheres the one blueprint for first world challenge 6?

[twilit willow]

Hey @verbal pagoda, are you accepting solutions with RNG manipulation?

[verbal pagoda]

i will not be

[ornate rune]

Hi, 2-6 doesn't work.

[safe cobalt]

try again

it is kinda chance dependent

[twilit willow]

Which one of the two? Also, yeah, I think it might be luck based.

[ornate rune]

WINCE one

ok i'll set auto restart for 1 second and wait half an hour

oh i shouldn't have turn off the streaming

saw i was dying rq, and that there are 8 slots unused, thought that solution is outdated and maybe i need to be a bit more careful..

[vocal gull]

the ai doesent work for me i think

[vocal gull]

wait, turning off streaming can make it more difficult?

[twilit willow]

It's a niche scenario, but it is possible.

[pearl hornet]

I'm doing 50 waves every 45 minutes on C1-8, is that normal?

[twilit willow]

You mean C8-1?.. Hmm... I don't know.

[pearl hornet]

Yeah sorry

[twilit willow]

reflect.wince
Yeah, I think that's normal. But you should have all software on.

[pearl hornet]

Okay

[median topaz]

How long should c15-5 take? I think I sat there 10 minutes and not sure I killed a single thing.

[verbal pagoda]

did you disable the town stats for damage?

[twilit willow]

(All damage multipliers, not just generic.)

[median topaz]

I didn't know how to do that, I do now, I beat it some other way.

Also this beat C8-1 way faster than the stun clearing one. Probably doesn't need volcano gift.

[verbal pagoda]

normal mode github or hardmode github link?

[median topaz]

normal mode github

[verbal pagoda]

cant use that one on that part of it, it has two era modules

[median topaz]

oooh ok

[verbal pagoda]

idk when im ever going to make speed solutions

if ever

[median topaz]

yeah honestly when you're first doing challenges "easiest modules to complete with" feels best

[verbal pagoda]

100% pre era is great, so much will get messed up when i have to 1.0 these

[median topaz]

lol yeah, is there a release window for 1.0?

[verbal pagoda]

not today, likely this year it seems, though no guarentee

[median topaz]

cool, is it going to change stuff enough I'm going to want to re-play again? Maybe I should've waited to come back lol

[twilit willow]

It's gonna make a lot of things faster.

[verbal pagoda]

there will be replayability options

[twilit willow]

Hey @verbal pagoda, should I be checking the easy mode challenges on v1.0?

Or do you still need to fix them?

[verbal pagoda]

i still do need to fix them, I'll do that eventually

[pearl hornet]

Iirc most of them work, I've used them

Oh nevermind it's on v1.0

[dire sinew]

im having problems with 6-2 easy it just gets stuck at wave 8 and i have all my resiantse disabled

[twilit willow]

Is it truly all your resistance?

[twilit willow]

In case you missed it, there's Basic Resistance and resistance for each of the elements.

[dire sinew]

i did infact miss the basic resistance thanks

[pearl hornet]

C2-6 Hard (with WINCE) doesn't work unless you use Daigopary

Even with Daigopary in fact

[twilit willow]

I think it kinda is RNG-based, but also, C2-6 is one of the hardest ones.

[pearl hornet]

Nevermind the video I attached, didn't expected it to show my server list on last frame

[pearl hornet]

Oh well I'll just let it auto restart until it wins

I've just seen it die on the very last enemy

There I got it

[still barn]

yeah the game not being deterministic does cause some issues when it comes to things that need to be insanely precise like hardmode challenges

[haughty harbor]

i dont figure to pass 2-1 desert challenge

its with the req build tho

[verbal pagoda]

are you using the ai? what tier are your utility modules?

[haughty harbor]

oh there is an AI ?

i just copied the link from github for the build

and started the run

my modules are t20 but just need to be T1 its challenge

[warm geode]

Yeah, trying to use this to beat some challenges as well.
Where is the AI?

Super possible that I am overlooking something, but I can't spot it...

[twilit willow]

Should be right below the BP, if not linked with it.

[warm geode]

Okay, so no AI on the blueprint discussed above, then?

[twilit willow]

Oh, I guess not. @verbal pagoda this is yours, right?

[verbal pagoda]

that should use the ai at the top

i forgot to indicate what module to spam lol

[warm geode]

Again, I might be missing something, but I cannot spot an AI at the top...

[twilit willow]

Is there not one at the very top of the page?

[warm geode]

Not for me...

[verbal pagoda]

huh, i forgot to put the ai up there, its on the hardmode version though

[warm geode]

Ah, yes. There it is.

Fair enough.

[wooden merlin]

Didn't have piranha or whatever for Volcano-c4. Spent way too much time throwing everything at it for an hour or two. Too tanky mobs and I am too silly to understand why or how. Ended up doing neutral response(turns enemies into neutral) + void(deletes neutrals in the area) to pass it in four clicks

wait.. there was an ai for it... bruh

[warm geode]

Can anyone confirm if/that Winter C4 (slow) is up to date and working in 1.0?
I keep dying.

Also, the description says "Keep wave streaming off until both shells reach 100 stacks." but my shells only ever reach 50 stacks each.
I don't know if that's a typo or if I'm doing it wrong...

[vital mason]

Apparently the shells got nerfed in v1 (not that I can confirm, I'm still waiting for the web version to get updated). This is most likely why c3-4 bp is borked

[warm geode]

Thank you for that answer.
I would like to formally submit my anecdotal testimony that the Winter C4 (slow) blueprint is outdated

EDIT: Nope, I fucked up. My health was not high enough. Does take a year to do, but it works.

[gray saffron]

@warm geode has earned the Ember role!

[verbal pagoda]

yep i have not updated it for 1.0, just wait until 50

[flint robin]

in C9-5 WINCE got changed to legendary and the challange does not allow for legendary modules

[royal root]

1-2 hard seems to not work anymore

should i just make a list of the ones that didn't work for me

[twilit willow]

Most (if not all) of the challenges using Shells might not work because Shells were nerfed.

[royal root]

oh

that is a lot of them then

hard mode challenges don't count for the ones that give bonuses per challenge, right?

[twilit willow]

Yeah, that's quite a few.

They do not.

[wooden merlin]

tips for 9-5, beach? Idk if there is a module that ignores armor, but poison didn't work. I get absolutely nasty defence stats on them

[verbal pagoda]

ivy should work, theres also insta kills as options

this is the ivy or insta kill challenge i guess

[wooden merlin]

anything outside ivy? I still didn't get it from the pyramid

[verbal pagoda]

theres wince, void, something (c15-5), i suppose captian's reflect is also pure (some other c15-x)

[wooden merlin]

saved. But yeah, forgot about void, thanks

[royal root]

did they completely change c10-6? this blueprint has 12 modules in it..

[weak torrent]

a lot of solutions have to be rewritten for v1.0 due to shells having a lower stack cap (50 now, as opposed to 100 previously)

please watch warmly until it is ready

[royal root]

i am very warm

[verbal pagoda]

maybe once im done with finals

thats an akward challenge for this

[eternal salmon]

if someone submits solutions that work for them could they be added to the list?

or is this not really open for new solutions

[weak torrent]

patches welcome

(read: feel free to submit blueprints, no guarantee that they'll be accepted but they'll at least be considered)

just make sure

1. you note if the bp requires comm/era/inf modules
2. if it's for hardmode, that it actually beats hardmode (most builds that beat hardmode will also beat normal mode, so "can it beat hardmode" is the standard, but reflect-based builds tend to get screwed over by town stats in normal mode)

speaking of normal mode, I need to re-check this for v1.0
(the spreadsheet is still at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGJ7d3eAyttqzhWhoy8kDxdzBi78FM2cazxgPHtmzrE/edit?usp=sharing)

[limpid geyser]

Maybe a stupid question but is the GitHub link getting updated?
Since 1.0 broke some of the BP with the shell changes, as written in this thread.

Are we still collecting and searching for challenge solutions?
Or what is the current standpoint on that?

Yoshi has no obligation to do anything, i dont want to sound neede pr pressuring.

[eternal salmon]

They are actively being updated

Yoshi is just busy, but submissions are welcome

[limpid geyser]

Okay thanks for your great work

[weak torrent]

c10-6
am I tripping or does "Universal" from c1-5 no longer get the special exemption?

ah wait I see what's going on
I can start the challenge, the max T5 warning is still getting set off by Universal

[verbal pagoda]

ah, yeah that would happen i suppose

[weak torrent]

good news, most challenges can still just be barrier'd away.
bad news, the changes to WINCE move a couple challenges out of the barrier pool (two challenges lose access to it entirely, a third now requires a reasonable-for-late-inf-phase amount of shield point bonus from trading post due to the change to WINCE's proc rate)

[eternal salmon]

What did it used to be?

It's like 2% now

I can not be asked to remember what it was because that was over a year ago now

[weak torrent]

I still need to test Olaf and Lightspeed

WINCE used to have a tier cap of 5 with I think 5% proc rate when capped, which meant that with enough shield points you were killing the squared health bosses in c-4 before they could kill you

it's still technically possible with enough shield points but the rate reduction means you're taking more hits, and their damage is squared as well (I forget if it was squared before but either way you're going from 20 to 33 hits per on average)

[eternal salmon]

5 to 2 is a pretty bad nerf, but honestly the module is just broken as shit under the right circumstances

[weak torrent]

it's because nothing is immune to it (that's why it got moved to legendary)

[eternal salmon]

any enemy under a certain threshold of damage will just instantly get nuked after enough time

and yes that is true

it trumps all immunity and defense

it literally just insta kills

[verbal pagoda]

c3-4 hasnt changed

[eternal salmon]

Is there a reason why Woot's mod is so powerful? I thought the devs said that a mod needed to not be "game breaking" to qualify for the effect, but a instakill that ignores stats is pretty damn good.

i suppose that's why the nerf was warranted

[weak torrent]

it halves attack speed so you basically need to use wince by itself
and defensive builds are the slowest ones in the long run

[verbal pagoda]

it decreases attack speed even more now

[eternal salmon]

I think a lot of modules need to be changed on the wiki

[verbal pagoda]

yes

[safe cobalt]

i think it should just be removed

there are like 10 modules that arent 250

[weak torrent]

the modules page just needs an overhaul in general

what was the last edit date?

!modules

[sonic spoke]

TPT2 Wiki: Modules

[verbal pagoda]

the last update before 1.0 or something

[eternal salmon]

2 days ago

[verbal pagoda]

i wonder what the edit was

[eternal salmon]

Space Guns

other than that not since June like 6 months ago

[dire wadi]

no null aura or the executive

[eternal salmon]

The fucking what now

are those new?

[verbal pagoda]

yes

[blazing forum]

yall how does this work

[verbal pagoda]

in the pins there are two links to a github with challenge solutions

[twilit willow]

We store all the solutions on GitHub, the link to which is pinned. Some BPs are under construction due to the Shell nerf and module changes, though.

[blazing forum]

the links dont go anywhere. do i just put them into my search bar

[twilit willow]

Clicking on them should be enough.

[blazing forum]

clicking doesnt do it. for me its not a link its just text

[blazing forum]

not a link for me

[twilit willow]

You're already on the GitHub. These are the Blueprints themselves.

[blazing forum]

and when i put that into a search bar it just brings me to that github page on google

[twilit willow]

Now you press the Copy button on the code block (top right of it), go to -> click on the Blueprint's name (default is just BLUEPRINT) -> click Import.

[blazing forum]

ah okay i didnt realise it was actually importing it straight to the game

[echo knoll]

yo how do i complete c15-5 bro

[twilit willow]

If you're asking why you aren't killing anything, #1344722486683500574.

[echo knoll]

even when doing that im not killing anything

[verbal pagoda]

did you disable all 11 damage stats? you can scroll the stats menu down

[twilit willow]

Probably should move Basic Damage to the other damage buffs, same with Generic Resistance.

[dusky hornet]

what I am doing wrong ? is the build broken ? c1-2 hard

[safe cobalt]

shells were nerfed

[dusky hornet]

any another blueprint for it ?

[verbal pagoda]

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Or

JchBDgIhDAXQqxD2EselPYpxUYfPQNIUUoob493VuHt5r/iQhWFNfcZruMV9O11CZcthS2fKKNCJZCiC3an0pZm9dU2HsTYHGQ4o7J8G+eIJmhUiCWxeiZdxqj9P72PA4v39AQ==

[dusky hornet]

ty

[loud pier]

what does effective health mean for challenge 3-4

[jaunty venture]

Resistance * max health multipliers

[loud pier]

ah ok

[tulip hornet]

I don't think the c5-5 bp works any more... at least the Firestorm doesn't do enough dmg

[dusky hornet]

any alternative build for c5-3 ? ( the one in github is superslow )

[weak torrent]

hard mode or regular mode?

[dusky hornet]

regular

[weak torrent]

what mt are you up to? since it's regular mode, c5-3 is susceptible to shield strats

[dusky hornet]

mt8

[pine frost]

c1-6 is going to take ages with the github BP... what am I missing?

[gray saffron]

@pine frost has earned the Spark role!

[pine frost]

I disabled resistance

ah... basic resistance haha

damn, even still it's a crawl

ah... missed one basic resistance

[sudden juniper]

9-5 doesn't work, it has wince, and challange does not allow it

[twilit willow]

We are trying to fix them.

[weak torrent]

we need a big sign saying "SOME CHALLENGES BROKE WITH THE 1.0 UPDATE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT"

[weak torrent]

temporary workaround: neutral response + void (both from jumble)

[vital mason]

Or ||gnarly obsidian|| (requires MT8+!) + Extinguish (water experiment)

Something (c15-5 reward) as well, if you have time to spare

[torpid lagoon]

I am stuck on c13-3 - Heaven 3. I am in Era, so my HP is high (~x10^39), meaning that enemies armor is so much high than any damage i can output given the tier restrictions on modules. Does anyone have any bp that can help?

[torpid lagoon]

Never mind - Got through it!

[wise wyvern]

How do i beat Desert challenge 1?

[safe cobalt]

pins

[wise wyvern]

i dont know whre to fcind pinns

find pins

[safe cobalt]

just go to first message

[wise wyvern]

is there one possible earlier on?

[verbal pagoda]

how early?

[wise wyvern]

military tier 3

[gray saffron]

@wise wyvern has earned the Spark role!

[kind ivy]

Quick solution for 13-4 hard. feel free to use.

TU9BDsIwDPsK6p1KCE70A/wBccjWrIvIsirpdkH8nQHb1Fvs2HH8cg1PmJWkmLse7q49nY+Xww00BusJOfpJupEjSQqJurJAmlENt3WkmYxGCYpGVkBa9AkFldpFgsyeKfVlnSPoU9CsViPjgFKAa/JvqojdCZOC7xG0WBlzRg0NqBLqHvT7C+L89e01YMhMHVXy/eLWZMXu8f4A

[amber yoke]

Am I missing something about 15-5? I have all the modules maxed, it has no skills, so no AI, but I am dying early. like wave 15-16ish.

[twilit willow]

#1344722486683500574

[amber yoke]

ok. I was looking at the wrong line. it says disable damage multipliers... all of them?

[twilit willow]

Yeah, I'd disable all. And don't forget generic above.

[amber yoke]

ok. doing that. thanks. very strange that doing less damage somehow kills them faster.

[twilit willow]

Enemies are immune to overkill damage

[amber yoke]

oh, so if it does too much, it just does 0? that is a bit challengeing. I see why its one of the last ones.

[twilit willow]

Yeah, if it deals more than their max health, it gets completely nullified.

[amber yoke]

ok. this appears to be working better. Already in the 40sa

but I still died on wave 75.... I'll try again.

nope, made it to 92 this time.... am I missing something, or need to redistribute stats somewhere else?

[twilit willow]

I dunno, but I also don't think people have reported issues on this?

Well, besides Town Stats.

And as a sanity check: Wave Streaming is off, right?

[amber yoke]

yes.

had autoskip on when I hit 75, turned it off and got to 92....

could be random bad luck, but if this fails I'll send a pic of my town stats

ok. worked that time. must have just been random bad luck

[mossy jay]

Hello, is it normal that challenge 3-3 takes ages with the setup ?

[dire wadi]

most likely so, they are designed to be somewhat pre-era, not fast

[mossy jay]

I see ! Thanks for the info, I figured it out, I was stuck at wave 31 bcs I hadn't turned of my resistances (I figured out how to do it affter posting my message)

[noble edge]

i dont understand challenge 15-5
can you give some help?

[verbal pagoda]

#1344722486683500574 ?

[noble edge]

it worked, thanks

[noble edge]

hardmode challenge 1-2, i keep getting stuck at wave 475

[safe cobalt]

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[noble edge]

it worked thanks

[noble edge]

hardmode challenge 1-6 doesnt work either

[safe cobalt]

a lot of them dont

thats why we have a #community-events to fix it

[noble edge]

oh ok

[fossil forum]

I'm doing 6-2 and nothing is happening. Resistance is down.

[verbal pagoda]

all 11 of the resistance stats?

[fossil forum]

1 sec I moved on to 6-3

I missed the basic one because it wasn't with the other ones. Thanks you for the help.

[dusky flax]

I dont understand how to disable resistances. I have all my power stones removed from the museum and still nothing happens on 6-2

Where do I go to disable them?

[twilit willow]

#1344722486683500574

[dusky flax]

Thank you

[wicked valley]

13-3 needs to be updated

add a shield and barriers and you should be good to go

9-5 also needs to be updated because wince is no longer allowed

[weak torrent]

c9-5 is the crabs, right?

[wicked valley]

yes

i think i wanna look at grim reaper

[weak torrent]

are you testing normal mode or hard mode?

[wicked valley]

normal

hold on i think it's working

it works!!!

you just have to get lucky with your g ripper hits

trying it on 13-4 now

[verbal pagoda]

did c9-5 ban legendary before? or was that recent?

[wicked valley]

idk, all i know is that it's currently banned

[wicked valley]

feels like 7-5 would be more reliable with void

although you have to disable x2/x3 at the beginning and use void at the middle, then use neutral response to get rid of most of the enemies.

Use power of the cat to tank the rest of the enemies, if there are any left

[sharp fox]

Evening. I feel Normal Mode Desert 6 is...kind of tight with the ||Firestorm|| usage. Is there another strategy for that one?

[wicked valley]

is there really no challenge setup for c1-2?

[safe cobalt]

there is

i guess the comunity even should be ended by now and the solution should be here

[weak torrent]

shield-based chart, with considerably less color-blind support

I'm gonna throw some ideas at c5-4 to see if I can't pull wince out of this entirely

it shouldn't be too bad since ivy/void are both potentially on the table

[still barn]

at least make it dark mode