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arctic nova
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any solutions to c7-4?

still barn
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hard or?

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look at the pins either way

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nvm

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I guess that one is just too nightmarish

arctic nova
arctic nova
woven nebula
arctic nova
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thats all?

woven nebula
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should work yes

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normal mode doesn't require a lot

verbal pagoda
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I have 2 challenges to work on, 8-5 and 7-4

dire wadi
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I have @ notifs on

red willow
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I am really struggling on 8-5. I've done it over and over again but I can't seem to figure out what I might be missing. I turned off wave streaming, I build up granite foundation to about e11 in health before pushing up the Awareness module as far as I can. I get to about wave 40-50 before I die.

verbal pagoda
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i know

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for some reason the devs forgot to disable tower testing xp boosts

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i have no idea how to patch this bp

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I'm going to go test every bp that requires you to level up modules in a challenge without any boosts to make sure they are all fixed

red willow
vapid lion
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we found a soln

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or rather a cheeze

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@red willow

verbal pagoda
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ouch

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that's a lot of experience i have to somehow do without

vapid lion
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you really need a lot of xp buffs to make the current bp to work

verbal pagoda
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i will preemptively, before even trying anything, declare this impossible

vapid lion
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w/o town buffs its kinda impossible

verbal pagoda
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and i will have to make sure the others aren't secretly impossible too

vapid lion
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maybe other challenges that need to lvl up modules have the same prob

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but are less affected

verbal pagoda
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c2-1 is fine, i know that much

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c5-3 c6-5 c7-3 c7-6 c8-3 c8-5 are the ones that could be affected

vapid lion
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generally this was my town xp buff, while doing those challenges

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except for c8-5

red willow
# vapid lion <@338367312254205953>

I was able to get my tower testing XP factor from x1126.442 to x1512.114 by switching all of my skill points into resource drop. is that the basic idea from what I read?

vapid lion
red willow
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anything else I can invest my skill points into to bump up my XP buff other than resource drops?

vapid lion
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here is a vid on what to lvl up

vapid lion
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resource:powerstone:town asset

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factory booster f2

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use resource drops

red willow
vapid lion
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yeap

verbal pagoda
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red willow
vapid lion
red willow
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which infinite stone?

vapid lion
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black one i think

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as long as it says resource drop

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that should be it

verbal pagoda
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you need all of this to make anything work?

red willow
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and also, holy cow, putting in resource drop boosters and doing 1:1:1 on skill points just boosted my tower testing xp factor to 3841.821

vapid lion
red willow
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adding in the universal stone bumps it up further to 6088.931

verbal pagoda
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ahhhh

vapid lion
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i really tried to follow all your advices

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which i think i followed right

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but the only thing that cvcked me was the xp gain

verbal pagoda
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i didn't even need to do all this to do the challenge myself

vapid lion
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my run was 20 mins long

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on 3x speed with all software on

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tho i used the non ivy one

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this bp has no ivy, just spam awareness

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but uses the same core modules as the original

verbal pagoda
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it's also post era but i don't care at this point

vapid lion
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your bp should work also, its just an xp gain problem

red willow
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and why should one not boost the universal shield out of curiosity? is it because wince is based on getting attacked right?

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I was so cloooose. I made it to wave 389 before getting murdered...

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sigh...

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16 minutes in

verbal pagoda
red willow
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gotcha

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I was so close to getting it...

barren basin
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c7-4 hard is now possible

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it can be done pre era

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its uhh, definitly absurd thats for sure

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im hitting infinity damage

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dont ask

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oh yeah this definitly bugs at play

verbal pagoda
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i don't likebugged solutions, i will figure it out someday

barren basin
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insights: I tried block build and defensive wince build both didnt work, also not enough energy for void, and turning them into neutrals doesnt help defensivily

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offensive build seemed completely hopeless but didnt really test branch much

verbal pagoda
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wow I'm earning like no experience

tawny pendant
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trying to test the weirdness we found a few days ago?

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tbh, i didn't bother testing the other hardmode challenges where the modules start at level 0 - if they have the same issue(?) as that hardmode challenge.

verbal pagoda
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they don't have a 99% reduction to xp gain

verbal pagoda
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c5-3, the first of its kind, i don't think i can declare it impossible, but i am going to have to make it not pre era I'm sure

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or spend 2 hours grinding xp

vapid lion
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thats sounds like a pain to do

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especially since lvling up modules is manual intensive, if you dont have an autoclicker

verbal pagoda
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it's either bulwark or maxing granite, elemental resisted, and division shield

warm nimbus
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Does anyone know why I keep dying between wave 40 and 80, even though my grantite foundation is maxed and the rest of my def is coming together nicely

twilit willow
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that sounds like you lost the buff from a shell

vapid lion
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Current strat for that is buff your xp gain as much as possible for an easier time, tho we don't know if its intended or bugged

twilit willow
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that just shouldn't matter since this is hardmode

vapid lion
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It does

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We already tested it above

twilit willow
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yeah ik

vapid lion
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Town buffs with respect to xp gain goes through for some odd reason

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But if it doesn't, you barely gain any xp at all

tawny pendant
# warm nimbus Does anyone know why I keep dying between wave 40 and 80, even though my grantit...

here's a consistent strat i've used on multiple attempts to confirm completion for that challenge:

  • upgrade granite to lv 100 (if you're still able to tank hits then do lv 200)
  • level up all the energy related modules to lv 100 (this will keep ivy casting constantly)
  • continue to level up granite up to max level if possible
  • stop casting ivy
  • if the bp has wince, then level it up to at least lv 100
  • level up all the other defensive modules in order of the modules list

the latter step needs some clarification: do not try to max one before moving to the next, instead use the x25 multi and do 25 levels for each module going down the list and then going back to top and do 25 levels again (if they get expensive then use x5 multiplier). this will allow you to gradually increase all shell layers and all resistances.

trying to max one defensive module (except granite) before moving on to the next leaves you vulnerable to hits that may go through a shell or resistance that you don't have enough of.

yes, it's one of those challenges that you really need to babysit.

warm nimbus
warm nimbus
tawny pendant
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good to hear. yeah, it's really cumbersome but so far it was the safest and most consistent strat that i've personally tried that worked.

verbal pagoda
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i wasable to use my strat, with 4000 times xp

spark moon
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does anyone have a build for jungle challenge 4?

verbal pagoda
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not hardmode yet

woven nebula
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@merry ingot seems to work fine for me

merry ingot
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I had to add Monsson then Ivy became useless

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So I took out Ivy + all energy mods

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It literally only needed Monsoon for me

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Idk why but I kept exploding around round 270

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Before I edited it

mossy wind
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I suppose no one has come up with a 7-4 solution yet, I surely havent

safe cobalt
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Hardmode?

tawny pendant
mossy wind
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Nah im good on normal, just talking hardmode but ty : )

opal swan
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for some reason the 7-5 bp isnt working for me, trying to do it on normal mode. Ive been using the hardmode bps for normals and this is the first issue ive ran into

verbal pagoda
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did you getthe ai?

opal swan
verbal pagoda
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what modules do you have?

opal swan
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thats the bp im trying to use

verbal pagoda
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show me the modules that you have imported, i don't want the code, i know how to get it

opal swan
woven nebula
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you need to upgrade storm aura

opal swan
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ah thank you

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i swore when i checked they were all leveled up

pallid falcon
merry ingot
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how do I send BPs for this now that some need to be redone due to the xp rebalance

fallow basin
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You can do it on the github some way iirc

verbal pagoda
modest vigil
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some advice for 6-5hard?

verbal pagoda
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i can't give any as i have no idea myself how to win

modest vigil
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and 6-6 hard?

visual patio
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is c7-6 hard possible ?

woven nebula
hazy crag
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what am I supposed to do for challenge 5-6?
I need the volcano gift module to use the blueprint for it and there's no blueprint in the github page for the easy version of the challenge

safe cobalt
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just use same bp without volcano

modest vigil
hazy crag
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I can't find the WINCE module on the wiki
How do I get it? I need it for c2-6

safe cobalt
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beat chaos impossible without offencive modules

floral gate
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and we wont provide a solution for it, the 1 stipulation the mod creator wanted

hazy crag
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oh, I can't even do that with offencive modules

floral gate
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for most people its a late era+ thing

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can be gotten before but is harder

hazy crag
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how does E57 sound?
Too soon for it?

floral gate
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resources dont matter

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module choice does

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why does everyone think resources and levels are more important then module choice ahhhhhhhhh

hazy crag
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no, highest era not resources

floral gate
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depends

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cant judge based off era

mossy wind
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can someone explain (as simply as possible) why some of the previously possible or even easy challenges are now not possible??

floral gate
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town stats leaked into them in the case of hardmode which got fixed

mossy wind
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ahh perfect thanks

floral gate
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not sure why for easy mode

mossy wind
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i meant "easy" to complete, not necessarily easy vs hardmore

floral gate
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oh ya everything that broke was hardmode

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and was due to the XP fix

mossy wind
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so so glad i beat them before that update lol

hazy crag
verbal pagoda
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i mean, if you've gotten all the era modules then you have everything that era can give

cyan hill
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anyone know why this is not working?

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i have only the auto-skip on as the guide say

vernal shell
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for 2-6 hard mode, is there any way to do it without daigoparry (I couldn't play PS if my life depended on it)

fallow basin
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that is just an accepted solution

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other solutions are possible

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no, i do not have alternate solutions on hand

vernal shell
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I've messed around with it for days and can't find anything that works :(

vernal shell
vernal shell
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doesn't work

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well, it work, but only 9 times, no time to regen layers

waxen pelican
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ummm,,i need help with hard mode 6-5,,already tried a couple that posted on github links from here,,but nothing works (might be because of some game update reduced exp gain)... need updated bp or tips

verbal pagoda
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yep,idon't know of a current solution

waxen pelican
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dang...lvl 0 module sux a lot

waxen pelican
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got an improvement for 8-2 bp change storm aura with whirlwind aura,,,post era

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higher chance to complete the challenge: YzgtMjthdHRhY2suZmlyZTtnaWZ0LnZvbGNhbm87ZmlyZS5pbmNpbmVyYXRpb247aW1wZXR1cy5maXJlO2F0dGFjay5pbXBldHVzO3N0ZWluaS5jaGFpbmVkLmJhbGw7YXR0YWNrLnNwZWVkO2F0dGFjay5ib3VuY2U7YXR0YWNrLm11bHRpc2hvdDthdHRhY2sucmFwaWRmaXJlO2ZvdW5kYXRpb24ubWFnbWE7YXVyYS51bmhvbHk7YXVyYS5mcm9zdDthdXJhLndoaXJsd2luZA==

verbal pagoda
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i don'taccept improvements that make it post era on the pre era side, also please pull request

waxen pelican
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umm,,is there a git link for post era challenge bp?

verbal pagoda
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it's on the same github, just back one folder, though i have a pull request prepping for it so pull request to that if you want

modest vigil
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some blueprint for 6-5,6-6,7-4 hard?

floral gate
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if its not on the github we dont have one yet

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some Xp changes happened for hardmode(town stats still influenced it before)\ and broke some builds

modest vigil
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c7-3 hard, from github dont work

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i made little changes and works smooth,+ little tactic change - still upgrade granit but if you get cca to 200lvl just upgrade on 25 others things it will help you, andwhileyou upgrading wince, if you getting little more DMG upgrade resistence,...

woven nebula
woven nebula
modest vigil
woven nebula
modest vigil
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some new blueprint for 7-6 hard?

next warren
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Simple solution for 7-4 hard

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Credit to #infinity-phase message

tawny pendant
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the reflect "exploit"? (reported here: #1160421208446218270 message)

yeah, it works. tho folks that maintain the hub may be against it since as soon as that reflect+uni shield interaction gets fixed again then that solution may fall apart.

next warren
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didn't know it was a bug. okay, understandable.

sleek yarrow
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does this exist for normal mode? i dont have wince and many of the modules the github builds around

vapid lion
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It also works for normal mode

sleek yarrow
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yes i know, but i dont have the modules required

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or do people not do any challenges before they have wince and infinity modules?

vapid lion
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The github BP's are meant to do hardmode challenges which coincidentally works for normal mode too

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You can just brute force normal mode with your town stats

twilit willow
sleek yarrow
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well they have wince

twilit willow
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well it's not an era mod

sleek yarrow
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yeah but from what ive seen you need high level modules to do that

vapid lion
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You can just use reflect on almost all challenges

twilit willow
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for easy mode, use shield + barrier

sleek yarrow
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ok thanks

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how do i get enough shield regen?

verbal pagoda
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you don't, you just tank, if shield goes down add resistance

sleek yarrow
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i have all the resistance mods

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still dying

verbal pagoda
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what one?

verbal pagoda
sleek yarrow
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its nice that you know that but i dont enjoy experimenting with modules, there are just too many and i also dont want to have to learn how to make my own ai and stuff, i just wanna casually play the game

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winter level 4

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i really just wanna get this done because getting to 100b era takes so long without it

verbal pagoda
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advanced shield, Fire Barrier, Magma foundation, diamond foundation, Unfolding, resistances and shells to the elements present don't work?

sleek yarrow
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have not tried that yet

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nope, still dying

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i dont have the shells to the elements present

verbal pagoda
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why

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how

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how are you missing Water or Darkness Shell?

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or Earth? i think that's the other element

sleek yarrow
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oh no i have that, i was searching for a mod called shells to the elements

verbal pagoda
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use those shells

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use the exchanges

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shield Amplifier

sleek yarrow
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looking good so far

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they just take very long to die cuz they have insane fire res

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using unholy aura

verbal pagoda
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how about using electricity Barrier instead of fire, battery foundation instead of Magma, and add energy?

sleek yarrow
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dont have battery foundation but its working better so far

verbal pagoda
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batteryfoundation is from one of the r8 challenges

sleek yarrow
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these guys have e26 hp and i only have e12 shield stacked so far so it sjust taking a while

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but im at the last wave and havent lost any hp

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thanks for your help

verbal pagoda
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ttrading post on shield?

sleek yarrow
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dont have that, need to check my cooldown

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the era wavegoals doesnt use shield so i dont have it

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ok now i cleared it in 1 second xD

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thanks again

reef portal
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compact phoenix
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wth I using bp for this chalenge

reef portal
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random question . how am i supposed to see the github link

verbal pagoda
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go to the top of the thread? it's also pinned

twilit willow
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its in pins

reef portal
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tnx

supple cosmos
supple cosmos
jaunty venture
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so its unaffected

supple cosmos
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So how do I increase military perk (combat surveillance) then?

jaunty venture
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you posted 4 screenshots of them, they don't mean anything

twilit willow
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did they fix the c8-5 bug?

urban sail
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is the github page updated yet

safe cobalt
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Its hasn't even been day after update

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Can you wait a little bit

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This update has 22 challanges

dire wadi
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(XP being too big that is)

urban sail
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then all thats left is heaven universe and chaos

dire wadi
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I did all new challenges non hardmode

supple cosmos
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I put all pointsin att/ def / stones

supple cosmos
verbal pagoda
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we will need to make them first, maybe new modules will assist us in making good challenges

woven nebula
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https://github.com/bluecats-Perfect-Tower-2/bluecats-PerfectTower2-comp./blob/main/Challenges/Hardmode/Pre Era/README.md

Reminder for everyone that is trying to come up with solutions for the new hardmode challenges that you can submit pull requests on the github (linked above) for review.

If you @ me [@woven nebula] or one of the other maintainers [@verbal pagoda] and [@jaunty venture], we'll check it out and give you feedback faster.

GitHub

Made to compile BP's from me and other people for The Perfect Tower 2 - bluecats-Perfect-Tower-2/bluecats-PerfectTower2-comp.

verbal pagoda
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I am a maintainer btw, please ping me

woven nebula
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... I love @silents when they don't work

compact phoenix
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can I do every chalenge without borf?

safe cobalt
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yea?

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why not

compact phoenix
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Idk some bo using borf

safe cobalt
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its for hardmode

compact phoenix
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Actually Im doing every chalenge on hard

steady remnant
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..With borf?

compact phoenix
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I don't have borf

tawny pendant
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huh? i don't think any of the currently published recommended solutions for hardmode challenges use borf.

...and there are currently no published updates for the new challenges.

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however, you're free to try and use any module (borf or whatever) to attempt the challenges - as long as they're allowed by the challenge restrictions listed in-game.

midnight hound
# compact phoenix can I do every chalenge without borf?

I've personally completed all hard mode chals without any public builds (because they don't exist when I beat them), and I never had to even consider Borf as it's worthless in max tier 1 chals because you have no energy at t1 and the only other place you can use it is C10-6, which doesn't allow utility modules so it's once again worthless

verbal pagoda
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there's other challenges that ignore special module tier

midnight hound
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really?

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I forgot those then

barren basin
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the only 2 im stuck on are c9-1 and c12-2

midnight hound
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it isn't in the description of the chals if they can at least

verbal pagoda
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i meant of all challenges, not just the 22 recently added ones

midnight hound
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oh

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yeah

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well

midnight hound
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there's just some where special mods are allowed as they are t1

verbal pagoda
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isn'tthere one on Metallic Ruins or something?

midnight hound
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no?

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wait

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there is

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am blind

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C8-4

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I guess borf could be useful in there

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but that sounds like it would be super meh anyways

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so it's still not required

verbal pagoda
barren basin
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earth, dark, universal

verbal pagoda
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wait, tier 1?

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which difficulty scaling?

barren basin
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yeah

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idk, but I tried max def and maz atk and cant survive

verbal pagoda
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just check the wave one stats against various difficulties in dark realm

barren basin
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insane

verbal pagoda
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what

barren basin
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mb

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lower

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its easy I think

verbal pagoda
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ok good

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easy is slightly more possible

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i can actually work with these conditions now

verbal pagoda
# barren basin its easy I think

did you try Granite Foundation, diamond foundation, Earth Exchange, Earth shell, Earth Resistance, Darkness exchange, Darkness shell, ddarkness resistance, universal exchange, marble foundation, elemental resistance, generic resistance, ocean gift, Adaptive regeneration, wince already?

barren basin
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cant use wince but used both auras instead

verbal pagoda
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oh yeah

barren basin
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I also had ocean gift'

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mb

verbal pagoda
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what wave did it get to?

barren basin
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like 3XX I think

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I wann say ~370

verbal pagoda
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what enemy types?

barren basin
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cant use a core to help cause of uni unfortunately

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I also had res for archers and wizards iirc

verbal pagoda
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add shield of frost?

midnight hound
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for chal #1-6

barren basin
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core wouldnt help since uni is limiting factor, atk speed reduc at tier 1 I dont see doing much

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like -5% or smth

verbal pagoda
verbal pagoda
verbal pagoda
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we don't even know if the regions themselves are possible in mt0, so post mt0 modules have to be used

barren basin
cyan hill
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there is some github link with BP for the normal challenges too?

twilit willow
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for easy mode either use these or reflect+barrier

tawny pendant
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^ this may not work with some of the more recently added challenges tho.

twilit willow
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then just attack. with or without software.

compact phoenix
verbal pagoda
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just a few waves left

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jinxed it i guess

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just died

barren basin
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it dies at 443?

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like mine?

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verbal pagoda
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it got to 445

barren basin
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im tring with shield of air now

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if not that can you try using gnarly obsidian? so add fire exchange and shell

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might cut down enough univ enemies to be worth

verbal pagoda
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i don't know why this worked when the other one didn't

verbal pagoda
# barren basin im tring with shield of air now

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barren basin
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mine also won half the time since I have fiery aura aswell

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verbal pagoda
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yours is definitely faster, but has era modules

barren basin
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we both have whirlwind aura seems like

verbal pagoda
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forgot about that one

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let me fix this

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(this one won't work, can almost guarantee that)

barren basin
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im pretty sure you need high fps / no x3 and a bit of luck for even ours to win, not sure how doable it is for no era

verbal pagoda
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it's silly that this is more feasable out of it and c9-1

verbal pagoda
barren basin
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c9-1 with special modules is actually doable but sadly they're disabled

verbal pagoda
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well the devs don't want you to start getting yourself immune to elements and very resistance to others

barren basin
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that'd be the fun part, most of these challenges seem be 'insert element here' shell/exchange then the same foundations and auras

verbal pagoda
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we are running out possibilities for offensive bps as challenges get harder

barren basin
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649 waves seems to be my limit for c9-1

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2/3 more modules would make it I think

barren basin
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verbal pagoda
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yay

mossy wind
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Im curious why the bps are "supposed" to be pre-era, is that just so its more accessible for people?

tawny pendant
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ideally.

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considering a lot of folks end up trying to do challenges as soon as they unlock them.

mossy wind
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thanks : )

compact phoenix
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there is any solution for c9-5?

verbal pagoda
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yes, i just don't know if they got put on the guthub

compact phoenix
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I only need solution for this

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how much time its take to add solution for every challenge?

verbal pagoda
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i think we have them all, they just need to be added

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you need normal mode or hardmode?

compact phoenix
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hardmode

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and c9-5 on normal and hard

verbal pagoda
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idk about any others, c11-5 is in a pull request

verbal pagoda
compact phoenix
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I think solutions for hard work for normal

verbal pagoda
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yes, they do

undone ginkgo
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what does the ai do?

jaunty venture
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Which one?

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It probably just uses skills though

undone ginkgo
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the one thats in the git hub for the challenges

verbal pagoda
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skills, all of the ais are skills

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the first one is just a spammer

undone ginkgo
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ah ok ty

near oak
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anybody got challenge 2-3 hardmode bp?

twilit willow
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it's... right there. in pins, on a linked github page

fair pulsar
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Does annyone know the solution for 12-6 easymode?

tawny pendant
# fair pulsar Does annyone know the solution for 12-6 easymode?

try this.

c12-6 non-hardmode (disable Wave Streaming, use x1 speed)

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fair pulsar
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Thanks I will

hazy crag
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ey fellas
2-6 hard mode fails at wave 4 now
weirdly enough tho, when I first did it, it went all the way to wave 50 but died
is this normal?

craggy ermine
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i've looked through it and it seems to be kinda luck based so it might be that

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oh the message was 4 days ago

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funny

verbal pagoda
hazy crag
verbal pagoda
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well, you need the software on

craggy ermine
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hii, i don't know if i am doing something wrong but the solution for c7-6 hardmode doesn't work, i keep dying between waves 15-20

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i've turned off wave streaming and i'm trying to upgrade granite foundation, if i stop at some point to upgrade the other modules recommended i die, and if i keep upgrading granite foundation i also die (although i survive more time this way)

vapid lion
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Iirc all challenges with levelling mechanic got patched

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Cos of some xp bonus from town being applied in hardmode challenges

craggy ermine
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yeah i had the same thing with another one but changing a little the blueprint helped

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i deleted the blueprint and forgot to post it sorry

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it had an era module anyway

dusky monolith
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Hello, is there someone here who completed the 12-4 easy mode? I've tried various combination but did not manage to escape from the curse and therefore to die.

gray saffronBOT
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@dusky monolith has earned the Spark role!

twilit willow
dusky monolith
tawny pendant
#

before anyone else asks:

  • as of this message, there are no publicly available solutions finalized and shared for hardmode challenges from region 9 (beach) up to region 15 (chaos) yet posted in the repo.
  • also, there are no known consistent solutions for hardmode challenge for region 7 (jungle) level 4 (aka c7-4) - solutions derived from possible exploits excluded.

as always, anyone is free to contribute solutions for hardmode challenges (including non-hardmode too!). either create a pull request in the mentioned repository, or have a chat with one of the maintainers if you're unfamiliar with github usage.

pulsar harbor
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Enyone have a build for c12-3 easy mode cant find enything tht works

pulsar harbor
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12 module no ult or legendary Module maxed T3 or above enemies immune to to damage instance that exceed their max helth

pulsar harbor
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ok thx gonna try sothing whit that

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thx did work did use ivy diamond foundation and energy if eny one is trying it to

pulsar harbor
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i only have one challenge left that i cant even understand how have tryed all active skill but cant get eny to work a new challenge c15-2 max 2 module moudules t2+ enemies have maximum damage and armor eny one have found eny solution

verbal pagoda
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reflect and uni shield

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i should get that in the github

pulsar harbor
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thx dont know how i did not think of universal shiled

verbal pagoda
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it also works on c15-1 and c7-4 kinda

pulsar harbor
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have completed all other challenge did use w.i.n.c.e and diamond foundation on most

craggy ermine
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guys

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i made a bp for c7-4 that should work

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uses this ai
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uses wince
can probably be done without generic resistance but i haven't tested it
wave streaming probably needs to be off

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i would need to check i remember i had it off for a reason, but i forgot why it was

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yes so basically, wave streaming needs to be off

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this is because when wave streaming is off enemies get stuck, since there are a lot of bosses attacking the tower, but when it's on they get to the tower before neutral response activates
power of the cat helps so that if one gets through anyway you don't instantly die
power of the cat could probably be replaced by universal shield

craggy ermine
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i don't know how to make a pull request so i'm leaving this here

craggy ermine
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i seem to be blind

craggy ermine
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i still have no clue on how to make one tho

verbal pagoda
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edit the file you want to edit

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then try to commit changes, it will ask you to make a pull request, at that point say yes and go through the rest of the process

craggy ermine
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i'm gonna go test if i can do it without generic res

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and then i'll make it

steady remnant
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Is the use of core considered pre-era?

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Cleared 10-1 with it

craggy ermine
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o

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wait

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the other way around

steady remnant
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Emmmmm...?

craggy ermine
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sorry me dumb

steady remnant
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Excuse me, so...

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Not pre-era?

craggy ermine
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i edited the message
cores are pre-era

steady remnant
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OKOK

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I'll make a pull request then

craggy ermine
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i'm sorry, as i said i'm kinda dumb

craggy ermine
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okay i have finished

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it can be done without generic resistance

kind hull
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c10-1 pre era
all softwares off(so it takes like 30 minutes)
frost aura and elec crit are probably not needed
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rancid ledge
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Sooo I complete c15-1 but dont know why , anyone can explain pls ?

tawny pendant
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what? :D

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post your build so folks could probably explain which modules helped with completing the challenge.

rancid ledge
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1 module : reflect ..... thats it

twilit willow
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yeah that's a thing apparently

tawny pendant
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well, coz it's reflect. it's kinda in a broken/not-broken state.

rancid ledge
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but reflect + 'something' = death

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me stupid me no understand

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🥺

tawny pendant
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probably because of some weirdness with the damage pipeline when combined with other modules. if it's only reflect then there's nothing else to process in terms of damage effects so it's just straight up reflecting damage received.

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it's kinda how it "works" ||below INF|| but kinda reduced effect when in ||INF||. considering all challenges are in normal waves, then reflect's pretty much overpowered.

kind hull
twilit willow
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when was it useful in the first place?

midnight hound
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but because of this reflect thing that doesn't matter :(

twilit willow
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yeah ik

midnight hound
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also has anyone completed C8-5 HM since it was changed?

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because I just wasted another hour at a failed attempt, and I feel like giving up

craggy ermine
twilit willow
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true

craggy ermine
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daybloom bad

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absolute zero gud

ruby saffron
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i cant find a way to do the c15 3,4,5,6

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i did 90 % of them with the 4 same modules

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anyone know some trick to completing the last 4?

rancid ledge
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if you talk about hardmode then no (not yet?) ,normal just need to build around the requirement

ruby saffron
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im just talking about normal

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i tried but still just get destroyed

kind hull
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why does c8-5 have "impossible" difficulty scaling

twilit willow
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do the other ones have nightmare?

verbal pagoda
kind hull
verbal pagoda
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a few of the cx-1 are easy, the later ones are

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there's also a few impossible

fallow basin
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🪧 will be fixed

kind hull
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why does c12-2 limit modules to t1

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time to inf reflect

kind hull
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finally

fallen fable
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.

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..

fallen fable
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dk why

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madee some changes to ur bp

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cause no wince etc'

verbal pagoda
verbal pagoda
fallen fable
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Gimme a sol

safe cobalt
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random bullshit

floral gate
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your in infinity phase

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most things work

fallen fable
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Idh most modules

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Only got like 214 or sum

still barn
fallen fable
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Gotta get once i go back home

kind hull
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anyone know how to do c10-2? idc about pre era

fallen fable
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Whats the diff bw pre era and post era?

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Also is there an easy mode challenge link that reqs even fewer mod

still barn
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pre era is pre era

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post era is post era

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all the hardmodes work on normal

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but the normal challenges are super easy with the hella boosted stats we all have

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you can probably use something like reflect or ivy to beat most of them

magic raft
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Can anyone help ?
I'm having trouble getting the 5-3 HARD Challenge ; I'm using the blueprint featured in the github link.
As said in the notes, I'm upgrading health for survivability early but I always die in the ~90 waves (there are 600 waves ...)
Is there something I'm doing wrong ? :/

verbal pagoda
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yes, we haven't fixed that one yet

magic raft
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Owh so they're just won't work because not up to date ?
Is there others I should avoid ?

verbal pagoda
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any of the ones that don't start it with maxed modules unless they also don't let you get xp

magic raft
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Gotcha, thank you very much for the answers ! 🙂

verbal pagoda
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once the event forces me to use tower testing I'll get back to work

barren basin
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has anyone beaten c15-1 hard post update?
looking like its impossible, cant defend attacks and dont have enough attack speed to handle all enemies

verbal pagoda
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i forgot i needed to do that one too

barren basin
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i'll declare c15-1 hard impossible post-update, unless im missing a way to get more atk speed/slow down enemies
v. annoying since its so close to being doable

verbal pagoda
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what, why is it so hard

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yeah i guess Chaos easy wave 100 is hard with tier 1

barren basin
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enemies are also really fast

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even with quantum speed + other normal stuff it isnt enough to kill all enemies

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its marginally close though

verbal pagoda
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e16, ouch, that's a lot of health

barren basin
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fire+electric is the way to go

verbal pagoda
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i might be missing a module or two because I'm doing nothing to them

barren basin
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synergy + both foundations

verbal pagoda
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ah yes, pull out all the stops

craggy ermine
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@verbal pagoda i have a solution for c9-4 and i am currently trying one for c9-5 that should theoretically work, the problem is that they are both post era (both because of bulwark lol) should i still make a pull request?

verbal pagoda
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yes that's fine

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just note that they are post era

craggy ermine
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okay

verbal pagoda
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i mean, c15-1 is going to be a post inf one if i can get this to work

craggy ermine
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what the-

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i could probably try but knowing that it's chaos it's probably impossible

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what were the requirements again?

verbal pagoda
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30 modules, no Ultimate, half game speed

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effectively 29 modules

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chaos easy, wave 100

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e16 health and e14 damage

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can't tell if there's bosses, i haven't gotten that far

craggy ermine
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i guess all the elements are in the challenge?

verbal pagoda
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yes

craggy ermine
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then it's kind of impossible

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Neutral response wouldn't work because of T1

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i don't think 29 modules are enough for this

verbal pagoda
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I'm dipping into synergies and inf attack to kill these things

craggy ermine
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just go to a version where reflect isn't fixed

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nvm c9-5 is just ridiculous

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i mean just look at this

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and you need to survive with 5 defensive modules

verbal pagoda
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i know every challenge is possible as people have the achievement, at least other than 15-1

craggy ermine
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wait who has the achievement?

kind hull
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i dont remember c9-5 being very bad

craggy ermine
kind hull
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wait actually i barely did it

craggy ermine
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i mean all of these only allow for wince bps

verbal pagoda
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well you could void them, or tpi

craggy ermine
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what is tpi

verbal pagoda
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toxic piranha Ivy

craggy ermine
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also void has way more cooldown than what it lasts so no lol

kind hull
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used a bunch of era mods#infinity-phase message

craggy ermine
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i completely forgot growth i'm so stupid

verbal pagoda
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my c15-1 bp currently looks like a really bad inf bp

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and it can't get past wave 3 on chaos easy

craggy ermine
craggy ermine
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like, do people actually have the achievement?

verbal pagoda
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yes

craggy ermine
#

who

verbal pagoda
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though they did it when c15-1 was possible

craggy ermine
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but who

verbal pagoda
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cl is one

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gen did have it before their save got messed up

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google might also have it, i forgot

kind hull
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hi

craggy ermine
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well i don't know why i am surprised

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to be fair challenges are very easy

craggy ermine
kind hull
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yes

craggy ermine
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oh cool

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what's the description of the advancement i wanna know

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if you can check it

kind hull
craggy ermine
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also btw why did you use so many modules for the c9-5 it was kind of unnecessary

kind hull
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idk why i used uni shield

craggy ermine
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you didn't need the health boost at all

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just use neutral response bp

kind hull
#

?

craggy ermine
kind hull
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oh
marble's resistance

craggy ermine
#

anyway, i'm probably gonna make a pull request once i do c9-6

craggy ermine
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oh god

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i hate c9-6, because you have to use wince, if you use heartstopper aura you lose because heartstopper evaporates air, so you don't even get air shells

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i wanted to make one non-wince blueprint and this is what i get lol

kind hull
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you can do that in challenges that dont allow purples

craggy ermine
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wait i actually found a way to make it not use wince

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i just had to turn off wave streaming

gleaming echo
#

How can i complete C6-2 i can't do it

verbal pagoda
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which one is that?

craggy ermine
#

hewwo

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um

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it's the high mountain level 2

verbal pagoda
#

i know

craggy ermine
verbal pagoda
craggy ermine
#

also btw @verbal pagoda you should add the solution for c11-5 (the one that was also useful for a lot of other places) to all of the places it can complete

verbal pagoda
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yeah I'll do that, I'll give myself a reminder and when i get the other 21 challenges done I'll do it

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21 being the number of challenges i have left to get solutions for

craggy ermine
verbal pagoda
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i didn't count those

craggy ermine
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yeah i thought you forgot, that's why i told you

verbal pagoda
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i didn't forget

craggy ermine
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oh-

verbal pagoda
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they aren't part of the number

craggy ermine
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i don't think you're gonna get a pre-era solution unless i'm missing a module

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only reason i was able to do it was because of bulwark's x400 damage

verbal pagoda
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it's funny that i have 3/6 Chaos challenges done decently easily

craggy ermine
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and the c9-5 its health

craggy ermine
verbal pagoda
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that's not done

craggy ermine
#

it is also way easier for chaos because in beach you get around like half module spaces

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except c15-2

verbal pagoda
#

I'm missing 2 choas challenges

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mostly because I'm not trying to apply the potential solution for one of them yet

#

i also hate how heaven is so laggy on my school computer because of the angels

craggy ermine
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lol

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at least you have a school computer

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be grateful >:(

verbal pagoda
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it's barelybetterthan my normal one

craggy ermine
#

anyway

#

i'm gonna make solutions for the last challenges

verbal pagoda
#

which ones?

craggy ermine
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the ones that i have left to do

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probably not gonna share them since i'm guessing you're not accepting post era solutions

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and it's gonna be very hard to make pre era solutions

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i hate the ones that you start with unmaxed modules

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they're such a pain

verbal pagoda
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yeah those ones are not easy to figure out

craggy ermine
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they are but i just hate them

verbal pagoda
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I've not tried the universe one because of the micromanagement ill need to do, even though my strat will likely work maybe

craggy ermine
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anyway, if i can get any pre-era solutions i'll share them ig

craggy ermine
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oo c14-5

verbal pagoda
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13-6 now done

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hey uhh, is battery foundation working correctly? it seems op

craggy ermine
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or at least should be

verbal pagoda
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i feel like i should not be dealing e17 damage

craggy ermine
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well i was doing e19 at most

craggy ermine
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@verbal pagoda i think you can do a c8-5 solution by focusing it on ivy's

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because ivy one shots earth

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the only problem is that i haven't tested this with red particles

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i'm gonna try it myself

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nvm okay

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it is technically possible with red particles i think

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just not if you get it at the start nvm i just forgot to upgrade my foundations

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also that would mean that wince is probably not needed

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ooo wait

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even better

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since it's the 5th one a neutral response bp would be possible

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nvm neutral response is bad when you have 0 module levels

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mostly because you can't even use it

kind hull
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😐

craggy ermine
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turn it into a c

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like this

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🙂

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see

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way better

trail pine
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so far no solution post update for 15-1?

verbal pagoda
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no

trail pine
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any solution how to beat normal 15-6? where they mimic entire bp?

dire wadi
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stack damage and speed, kill them before they attack

trail pine
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ok, will try that

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done it, thanks for the tip

dire wadi
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I am one hardmode away from beating them all

trail pine
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same here, cannot do that 15-1 hm

verbal pagoda
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i haven't figured out anything viable for that one either

tawny pendant
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i'd assume this was an effect of the recent fix to reflect module?

kind hull
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ye

verbal pagoda
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current tally

kind hull
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:D

verbal pagoda
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here's the list

craggy ermine
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as i've already said
i don't think you can

verbal pagoda
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i don't check these as impossible

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i only check them as possible if there's something making them explicitly impossible

hazy crag
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hey, so there's no help available for r9-ch1 normal since there's no saved r9-ch1 hard mode bp saved, right?

safe cobalt
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our help for easymode challanges is shield+barrier, works for 80% of challanges

hazy crag
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what do you mean by barrier?
bc there's no module that deal damage with that in the name

safe cobalt
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read them

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blue=/=dosent deal damage

hazy crag
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I really did just say that
I'm so sorry

verbal pagoda
hazy crag
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ocean ch1 exists, but not beach ch1

verbal pagoda
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this looks like it exists

hazy crag
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sure didn't look like it to me
and this time I opened the link today

verbal pagoda
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which version of the github are you on?

hazy crag
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whatever the latest up to date version for opera gx is
I reloaded the page and it's still not there for me

verbal pagoda
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show me a screenshot of the top of the page, the part that shows the branch

hazy crag
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the red doesn't look to be for relevant fetches

verbal pagoda
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that's not what i meant but fine

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idk

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do you have things past r10 on there?

hazy crag
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oh, I was on your branch
bluecats page has a bp there

hazy crag
verbal pagoda
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the branch doesn't have c9-1 on it because it was made before that

hazy crag
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GitHub

Made to compile BP's from me and other people for The Perfect Tower 2 - bluecats-Perfect-Tower-2/bluecats-PerfectTower2-comp.

GitHub

Made to compile BP's from me and other people for The Perfect Tower 2 - Blueturbo47/bluecats-PerfectTower2-comp.

urban sail
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is there a solution for neutral challenges 4 and 6

verbal pagoda
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c11-5

urban sail
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k

harsh frigate
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is there a solution for ocean 6 challenge?

verbal pagoda
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yes?

harsh frigate
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a posted one^

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obviously someone's beaten it

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uhh, nvm? i stg it wasn't there.

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losing my mind i suppose

verbal pagoda
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all 90 are there I'm sure

harsh frigate
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I mean it was definitely empty earlier, but I have absolutely no clue why so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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probably just page loading issues or something idk

harsh frigate
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thx for your hard work <3

kind hull
tawny pendant
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hey folks. any tips on hardmode c10-2? is it pure RNG? even with wave accel off and x1 speed it just dies instantly.

verbal pagoda
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keep Restarting until one of the packs hits a foundation

tawny pendant
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oof. yeah. been doing that. this is gonna be rough.

urban sail
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the solution for neutral 1 doesn't work against bosses

verbal pagoda
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soul harvesting?

tawny pendant
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hm, does phasing still work even without shields? otherwise, it's not really needed for the c12-2 solution?

verbal pagoda
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i don't know

tawny pendant
verbal pagoda
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oh, yeah that's there, forgot what this bp used exactly

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forgot that Neutral can't take non neutral damage there

tawny pendant
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yeah. it just looks like it's not working since the bosses tend to pile up while not taking immediate damage, coupled with the really low chance of extinguish given its just t1.

tawny pendant
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hmm. c12-2 solution feels too random once it gets into wave 300 and up. keeps dying at random points once that high.

verbal pagoda
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huh

tawny pendant
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could also probably be some lag on my end. effin tower testing is too vulnerable to frame stutter.

urban sail
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well some bosses got turned into fire elements but they are taking too long to die

verbal pagoda
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not too long i hope

urban sail
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it's been 3 in game hours

verbal pagoda
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how many bosses are left?

urban sail
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17

verbal pagoda
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i know this one tends to run on the longer side, but this feels too long

urban sail
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I know right

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i'm stuck

verbal pagoda
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i can't help much

tawny pendant
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unless someone else comes up with a different premade faster solution to that, it's what we got for now. yeah, it took me roughly 45mins to an hour to clear that one.

urban sail
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the solution still isn't taking out any bosses

verbal pagoda
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uhhh

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that's an issue

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did you do anything to the bp?

tawny pendant
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effin hell. c10-2 is annoying. even disabling all software and running at x1 speed is a guaranteed instant death at the start.

verbal pagoda
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it's not guarenteed, also software may help get more wave changes for Defensive Pack

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oh i say no software, if you don't skip waves ignore that

tawny pendant
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so just enable autoskip and wavestreaming, nothing else?

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or just autoskip and everything else disabled?

verbal pagoda
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autoskip should always be on

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if you have everything on do you skip waves?

tawny pendant
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everything on has wave accel factor at 1.6e4 and avg waves/s is 3.

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wave streaming disabled is 1 wave/s. mostly dies instantly at either wave 3 or wave 5.

verbal pagoda
tawny pendant
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maybe? honestly, i really can't say coz i pretty much die upon starting. :)

verbal pagoda
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does the wave counter ever change by more than 1?

tawny pendant
verbal pagoda
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hmm

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i wonder why you can't kill anything

verbal pagoda
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maybe add Ocean gift if you want

tawny pendant
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tbh, i've been restarting that challenge for almost half a day now. lol

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i did try adding ocean gift. since it's unleveled on startup it only multiplies hp by a measly x3. considering the amount of damage the enemies deal upon spawning, it doesn't really help.

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i could prolong it a bit by switching out bulwark with cat, but still eventually dies since granite can't catch up.

verbal pagoda
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i got it with only a few attempts with ocean gift, though i am using an autoclicker to upgrade Granite

tawny pendant
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also have an autoclicker ||(already an external one)|| placed on granite too.

verbal pagoda
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turn on auto restart and leave it

tawny pendant
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yeah. looks like it. just gonna leave it to RNGesus.

tawny pendant
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ugh, talk about effin bad luck...

verbal pagoda
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huh

verbal pagoda
tawny pendant
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i did. and it always dies at 350+. i disabled it and i went up that far. :)

verbal pagoda
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wtf

tawny pendant
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yep. i dunno if there's something really effed up with my save, or my game.

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also not discounting that i really have a shitty laptop.

verbal pagoda
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yeah fps means nothing

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i don't know how accel breaks it

tawny pendant
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don't worry about it. it's probably just an isolated case.

verbal pagoda
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let me send myself it again and I'll check it

tawny pendant
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some of the challenge solutions that were supposedly ok with accel, i sometimes had to disable wave streaming mid way. coz i noticed that whenever there's some constant frame stutter/lag spikes they are more vulnerable to death. like i said, must be my shitty laptop probably dying. heh

verbal pagoda
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it cannot possibly be worse than the school laptop on web

tawny pendant
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i'd like to think the same, but this thing's been run to the ground for so long i wouldn't even be surprised that it performs worse. :D

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anyways, dw too much about it. it's probably a "me" problem.

verbal pagoda
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how bad is the fps

tawny pendant
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am always running at 30 fps limit in-game. but there are rare occassions it just drops down to 10 or less. >:)

verbal pagoda
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this thing can consistently get 15

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i could test this with a completly shot fps i guess

tawny pendant
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at your own leisure.

verbal pagoda
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I'll swap Phasing for Universal resistance

tawny pendant
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really appreciate you and the others have worked on getting these premade solutions done.

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yeah, i'll also try switching out some mods on my end to see if they work better on my case.

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but first - need sleep.

verbal pagoda
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what should i set my fps to

tawny pendant
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if you can simulate to at least 10 i guess?

verbal pagoda
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I'll do 5

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5 or less

tawny pendant
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yeah, i guess that'd be worst case.

verbal pagoda
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ok this is awful, my game is running at 1x speed on 3x speed

tawny pendant
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yeah, it's painful to watch. :)

verbal pagoda
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well in about an hour i might have an answer, maybe more

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my game can still lag with a completly shot fps

tawny pendant
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take your time. not really in a rush. will be goin afk for a while anyway.

but thanks for looking into it. really appreciate it. will check back later.

verbal pagoda
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if the run isn't over by the time I'm going to bed it'll have to wait until tomorrow probably

tawny pendant
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no worries.

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later then. cheerio!

tawny pendant
verbal pagoda
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i just finished my 5 fps test

tawny pendant
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oh. how'd it go?

verbal pagoda
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it was successful

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it took 2 hours

tawny pendant
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ah. same build, or phasing swapped out like you suggested?

i had more success with it swapped out for uni res. ran it more than a few times just to confirm consistency. all attempts survived until completion compared to not having the uni res.

verbal pagoda
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phasing swapped out

tawny pendant
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ah. alr. noted. thanks for taking the time.

pastel sinew
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Hi, I don´t know if anyone asked or not, but I have a problem with 2 challenges. Dark realm 6 and Chaos 1. If you know the solution i would appreciate some help. Thanks.

craggy ermine
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um

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wha

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there's literally a solution on this chat

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#1093959312600203365 message

pastel sinew
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I can't find it anywhere. When I open a link these 2 challenges aren't there

craggy ermine
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what the fuck

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ummm

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wait a sec

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bruh

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it opens up a fork

fallow basin
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Check the pull requests, the solutions could be there, but not released yet

craggy ermine
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or not

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idk with github

craggy ermine
fallow basin
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Did they not say the challenges aren:t there?

craggy ermine
twilit willow
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yoshi refresh the link

craggy ermine
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i guess

pastel sinew
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Yeah, thanks. This works

craggy ermine
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@verbal pagoda your link isn't linking smh

tawny pendant
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links are fine, unless what you're mistakenly opening is your fork of that repo.

verbal pagoda
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the link is fixed

fallen fable
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why do most require wince

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what does it even do

tawny pendant
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you may look up the module in the modules wiki page to see what it does.

verbal pagoda
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the link is fixed

verbal pagoda
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it's Reflect but a chance but it will kill

urban sail
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dark realm challenge 4 hard mode I die when I'm almost finished

verbal pagoda
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oh boy

verbal pagoda
urban sail
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dark realm challenge 4 hard mode

verbal pagoda
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not what i was asking

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I'm almost never at the game apparently so i can't check myself

solid hound
verbal pagoda
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check the pinned one

tawny pendant
fallen fable
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!modules

sonic spokeBOT
urban sail
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It is done I have completed all challenges easy and hard

atomic sluice
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do you guys have a working hard challenge 5/5 (volcano c5) modul list?
the featured blueprint feels outdated, because they cannot be stunlocked.

i cant pass more than half of the challenge at any kind of build (tanking them, killing, with WINCE, or try to %based killing them with zero defense, reflecting etc..) They scale too fast...:/
any suggestion for builds?

verbal pagoda
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though i know that it doesn'twork the best

atomic sluice
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i will keep trying then :/

frigid remnant
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So I'm using the BP and AI in the github but can't finish Region 1 Challenge 2.
Am I doing something wrong or do you just need to get lucky with Multishot and Crits?

hazy crag
frigid remnant
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I got them all off like the Github says.

twilit willow
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c1-2 doesn't even say to turn anything off?

kind hull
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isnt 1-2 a defensive build

twilit willow
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it's literally a shield+barrier

frigid remnant
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Oops.
I think I read C4 not C2.

hazy crag
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aha, fantastic
still an issue?

frigid remnant
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Nope.

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Thanks. 👍

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Ok new issue.
Region 2 Challenge 3 asks for Volcano Gift.
Which you get from Region 5 Challenge 6.
But the blueprint to finish R5C6 to get it also needs it.
Any suggestions for either of them? (I'm missing way more to finish R5C6 so preferably a BP to finish R2C3.)

twilit willow
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you can complete c5-6 normal without volcano gift with c5-6 bp

hazy crag
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and if it still doesn't work, using the bp for a previous challange in the region usually works

frigid remnant
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Is there a W.I.N.C.E.-less BP to do R2 C6 with?

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It seems like a very important part of the one on the GitHub.

safe cobalt
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just get wince

hazy crag
frigid remnant
frigid remnant
hazy crag
safe cobalt
twilit willow
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wait can you bring blue mods in c2-6?

safe cobalt
hazy crag
twilit willow
hazy crag
twilit willow
hazy crag
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tru

verbal pagoda
mental ferry
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does anyone have a import for 1-2

twilit willow
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all solutions are here

warm gorge
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C12-3 doesnt have a solution in the wiki thingy

verbal pagoda
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are you sure?

warm gorge
verbal pagoda
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do i need to link the github on the wiki or something?

warm gorge
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where did u got that github thingy

verbal pagoda
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the pins in this channel?

final shale
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just did C5-3, it's a lot less rng at the beginning if you had growth and luck of the cat even universal shield, you can have 12 modules total even if it's only 4 defensive. It make things way easier with growth alone.

craggy ermine
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luck of the cat?

tawny pendant
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ofc it becomes easier with an era module. the solutions in the hub preferably try to maintain accessibility by attempting to provide builds that can be used before era - not all of them, but most of them.

final shale
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sure I understand that, it's just sometimes I'm not sure why using all the slot you can use to make things easier

jaunty venture
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also if its something like gem experiments / wince , we'll generally try not to add it since they're harder to get

final shale
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I can understand that, those from laboratory are ok though? or it depends which one?

jaunty venture
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gem experiment / exo experiment we try to avoid

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rest are fine

final shale
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ok good to know, I keep dying at C6-5 with no speed or software I don't understand why

verbal pagoda
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ai?

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does it actually ask for no accel?

final shale
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it doesn't but if I do I just die faster

jaunty venture
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worked just fine with upgrading stuff in near right order

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and yes accel was on

hazy crag
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maybe the stats matter?

jaunty venture
hazy crag
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do hard challanges ignore stats?

verbal pagoda
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town stats do not affect hardmode chalenges

jaunty venture
final shale
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I guess I need to upgrade granite foundation more before starting the shells

hazy crag
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aha, perfect
I'll see myself out then
best of luck fellas

jaunty venture
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from challenge blueprint description

final shale
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ok just realized from your screenshot that I don't have the same amount of modules

verbal pagoda
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reimport

final shale
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I just did I get that

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I'm not crazy that's the right place?

jaunty venture
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like the link to that page

final shale
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well it loks the same but it's not the same....🤦‍♂️

jaunty venture
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yeah you're using a fork made by me

final shale
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that's probably why I've had trouble pretty often

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often I was told about the speed or software like it said on the hub and I couldn't see that now I know why

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thanks for the help it's way easier now

final shale
kind hull
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rip

final shale
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I tried to use monsoon aura in challenges but it seems that it doesn't work, I thought it would be useful in challenge using Wince

kind hull
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tiers are limited

final shale
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of course but even at tier 5 it still should do something no?

verbal pagoda
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not all that much, it's for more defense anyway

final shale
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but the modules reduces the total hp of the creep no?

verbal pagoda
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wince is an insta kill, so health already doesn't matter

final shale
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ah yes true I'm confusing this with other modules like barrier

final shale
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is c8-6 a bit of rng? I can't see to win with or without accel

verbal pagoda
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spamming ivy?

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are shells going down for some reason?

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is Earth there?

final shale
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I am spamming ivy, and I'm dying at different wave from different element so I'm not sure what's going on

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electricity shell are a problem right now but I'm still alive

verbal pagoda
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not sure what happened to that shell