#Audio

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obtuse wolf
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Anyways I’m in class I’ll continue the conv later

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Mhm

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Il

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*ik

polar kelp
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Ultimate audio trolling experience

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But well, if anyone ever stumbles upon this convo.

  1. The cheapest and acceptable modern audio interface is 49$ (M-Audio M-Track Solo)
  2. The cheapest acceptable modern XLR condenser microphone is 24$ (Vigilant VA92). Dynamic is 20$ (XM8500)
  3. The cheapest reliable USB microphone is 45$ (Seiren Mini)
  4. If you try to cram the whole topology of an interface inside a slightly longer XLR housing, you get turbo cringe
obtuse wolf
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Lol

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I buy once things

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Which is why I bought a hq mic

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And the cable is shit but I can upgrade

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Compare to having to buy a whole new mic

polar kelp
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The best way to spend 85 bucks in this case would be buying the Seiren Mini, proper accessories for it and ghetto treatment

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Or just a better USB mic and a boom arm

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Cos it's not really the mic that will be a bottleneck in most people's sound

cyan sphinx
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By the way, do anyone here has experience with the moondrop chu, I'm looking for an iem (I never owned one before btw) and my favourite fat Asian crinacle made a video about them q while back, and I want to know if they are good enought to replace my dy240 pro that I use for day to day task, or if there is like a big flaw or whatever, because graphs says that it's better, but tuning is not all (and I have no idea how to read the others audio graphs, like the water fall one, and crinacle said they are useless, and has the dumb viewer of his audio dreams, I just assumed he was right, and idk how to read the other ones) so idk, is it good enought to replace my DT ?

(And also, I'm looking for a neutral 300-500-ish$ open back or not headphones to replace my actual sundara, but only if it's actually really better, like enought better to pay a whole new headphone, I use it for content consumption, gaming, music and video editing)

crimson frost
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i have a psvr2 are there any head phones that are bone conduction earphones that can connect to it ?

cyan sphinx
polar kelp
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DT240 Pros aren't anything special so they're not hard to replace but maybe not with IEMs

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Cos IEMs sound like, you know, IEMs

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Also, as mid as Sundara is, replacing it with something in about the same price range is definitely more of a sidegrade

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So don't waste your money

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You can exchange with someone and get a better headphone this way or sell the Sundara and then get a better headphone but like

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Sidegrade

cyan sphinx
cyan sphinx
cyan sphinx
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cyan sphinx
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Hello again, How much would it cost for a good (but not stupid expensive) pair of ears on a stand to record frequency response graph ?

cyan sphinx
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ok

cyan sphinx
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I never had iem before, so I prefer to buy a budget thing that is still pretty representative of the "middle high hend" to know if I like them or not, instead of throwing away hundreds in something I'm not sure I will even like

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Which zero ?

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Ok, I thought you where talking about truthear zero, that is a bit to U shaped for me

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Same with the salnote,

polar kelp
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Truthear Zero is also not far from Sal Zero in tuning

polar kelp
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So in the IEM world that's vastly different I'm guessinghyperkek

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Cos tbh to me they look about the same until 4k

cyan sphinx
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is may not be night and day, I get it, but it is there

cyan sphinx
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nice source, me I own the chu, it just arrived in the mail

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no you don't

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I was more thinking, how can you see what's happening in my house, cause if you could, it meant you either are somebody from my direct family (wich I know you aren't), or you have a camera in my house, wich would be weird

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do you use text to speech then ? or one of the weird keyboards for blind persons ?

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ye, works too

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can you teach me

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how do you type with telekinis, if you are blind, and you use telekinesis to type, how do you know what you are mooving ? also you are a liar, it does not work

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like, what if your keyboard shifted a bit to the right and your wrote like that instead ; jrmmp; ùu ,zùr od zuùrtov, you couldn't know it ?

polar kelp
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Decibels are logarithmic but in practice hearing a narrow dip that is less than 3 dB really requires some attention. I can do it when editing audio cos I have an ear for it but casually listening I might miss it

obtuse wolf
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I GOT MY MIC TO WORK YAYAYAYYAY

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I still need a stand

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But

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Saving up for that

polar kelp
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Breh this guy

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At least he generates fun memes

obtuse wolf
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Fair

obtuse wolf
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Not ideal but it does….

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And like I’m pretty sure I already said

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I dont do « buy cheap buy twice »

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I try to just buy some good stuff from the start and never have to buy it again

fading abyss
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i just got porta pro 😎 i put ksc75's on it 😎😎

radiant creek
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Found a pair of headphones while moving a bunch of stuff out of the old house. Curious to see how these sound.

radiant creek
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Update: they sound great

cyan sphinx
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also, i'm looking for a pair of bookshelf speakers, and I wonder how much it would cost me ?

radiant creek
cyan sphinx
polar kelp
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But sound quite nice

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Also, entry-level powered bookshelf speakers can be had for 150-ish

cyan sphinx
polar kelp
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For both

cyan sphinx
cyan sphinx
polar kelp
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Well

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Slightly better powered bookshelf speakers?

cyan sphinx
polar kelp
cyan sphinx
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ok, thanks

obtuse wolf
polar kelp
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I hope you don't mind that I'm saving these to use them as meme templates

polar kelp
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@wild token Sound Speeds april fools thing is priceless

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Yes, this is an SM7bhyperkek

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Also I ordered Wan'er

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Engaging in coper activities once again thinking it's gonna change smth

polar kelp
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Well

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I hope it decently fits

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Might actually start using IEMs outside again if it does

radiant creek
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I wish i could use my iems again

polar kelp
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You're trolling tho so why not

solar swallow
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First driver completed. This build is quite stressful. I don't wanna mess up.

solar swallow
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They are working :POGFISH:

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I just need the headband

solar swallow
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Aaaah Ican hear crackling CL5_MonkaSonic

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But they sound absolutely powerful holy

solar swallow
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I might have fucked up 3sTaigaCry

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Yeah as soon as I go a little too high it crackles

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I have some news, it might be my PC. They seem to sound fine on my other PC

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Clueless as to why

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Possible that its the cable ahmmmm

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Or no might just not work great with my own amp

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Unfortunate

solar swallow
polar kelp
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What driver did you get

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Don't think I recognize it

solar swallow
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It's a kit

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It's planar magnetic

polar kelp
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Interesting

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Looked em up but there are no legit reviews

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150 Canadian tho so it at least has to compete with decent closed-backs for the same price

solar swallow
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150 is for DIY. If you build them correctly they easily compete with 400$ stuff

polar kelp
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Which is what I wanted to observe but like

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No reviews

solar swallow
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Yeah people have just now started to get their DIY kit and others are waiting for the prebuilt kit. Reviews should come in a couple of month. I'm hoping someone like Crinacle gets their hands on one. I think it would be interesting.

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Only disappointment so far are the issues I had with them when paired with my DAC/Amp

obsidian coral
solar swallow
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Forgot to post the final product. Not perfect finish but as far as I can hear the sound isn't impacted.

solar swallow
cyan sphinx
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Hello people, do somebody knows good closed back headphones ? I'm looking to upgrade from my dt240 pro to something better, I need it closed back because it is the one I use in public, and I'm looking for something that has kinda the same sound signature has the hd 600 or sundara, just with some existing sub bass

cyan sphinx
solar swallow
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Hey sure

cyan sphinx
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About 200€, I don't really care how they look or whatever, I just want something that sounds good, and is reasonably comfortable

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Ok

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Also, while you are here, I saw recently the ltt video about the abyss expensive edition, and I wanted to know why crinacle don't give a crap about it (it's c- on his list I think) where has dms praise it ? And is it any thing close to a good bang for the buck or are equally priced tower speakers better ?

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ok, because I search some good realistic headphones, that are cheaper than the he1 because they are stupid expensive, and when you look at the ltt video, it makes you kinda think about it has some kind of "ultimate headphone experience" and I think joshua valour also found the abyss (I'm not sure he reviewed the expensive one, but he did show the less expensive ones in a couple of videos) good

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sure, but it's mostly for short to medium session, I have an hd600 for longer session, and for the shorter sessions, I have lcd5, I can't run them for more than an hour because after it my neck breaks

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it's so stupid heavy, but the good side of it is that now my index feels like a little feather on my head

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sure, but it doesn't avoid me from trying to find better

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yes, I really like it, it reminds me of my sundara but in like super sayan form

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well, I don't want something stupid, I mostly want something that is still not too dumb to buy

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eh, 20k perhaps

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with the amp and dac, mine is actually not really working, so it's been like 3 month since I used my lcd, so now I only use my hd600 and sundara with a topping dx1

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it was the big dac amp of sennheiser, hv800 I think its called

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ok, personnally I got it because I bought an hd800s from a friend and it had it too, so he made me a price on the two if I took the dac amp and the headphone, so I had both for about the price of a hd800s alone

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only the amp, but the only other amp I had, my topping is a bit too weak to use my hd800s, so i'm sad

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yeah, and it's not really just this one, but whatever, I will just learn that I will need to have a second dac amp for the futur

solar swallow
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I'm curious, do you all think the reason I can't run my Ploopys be that my AMP (topping L30) may not be powerful enough? blobhmmm

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Ah yah know what, I did a bit of EQ and I don't seem to be earing the crackling or cliping I was earing

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Although its definitly not EQd as well as the Ploopy dac

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You know what. It might have been a bad connection. I didn't insert the right jack in enough and fixed it the other day.

cyan sphinx
cyan sphinx
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I don't think he was asking that ?

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yeah, but it's kinda hard to do it right, but yeah, if you have loads of time, and some knowledge, you could, it's surelly a good thing to do to really make it has you want it, and perhaps make better imaging or whatever I guess

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also, while i'm here, do anybody has some thoughts about the DCA Aeon Closed X ?

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what is the price ? and is it closed back too ?

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yeah, it's a bit of a different price point, aeon is 500

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I think so

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well, that dude from headphone.com declared them the best sub 500$ closed back, so idk, I did not look at the graphs yet

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ok, and, do you know what is the connector on it ?

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ok.. I was thinking mini xlr, but I think it just has 3 pins, where has there it is 4 pins

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wow, I never saw a headphone with only 12.5 ohms

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with 80mw of power requirement, can it run off a phone you think ?

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also, is break in the same has burn in ?

solar swallow
# cyan sphinx and EQ don't really make that your headphone need more power has far has I know

That wasn't what I meant. I thought the dac/amp it came with had some EQ done that alleviated the clipping/crackling I was hearing. Turned out i'm dumb and it wasn't the case.

They seem to be a tiny bit more demanding than my 250ohm dt770 but not by enough to make my amp struggle. Now that they appear to work fine I just need to slightly adjust the EQ cause they sound "thumpy" I guess, compared to the one it came with.

cyan sphinx
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I know, it's a stupid thing to do, it's why I ask if that guy is talking about that

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the 80mw power requirment for the headphone is from that website, i'm asking how much I can have out a usb c dongle

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yes

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ok

solar swallow
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It's fully open source so pretty sure i can CatThumbsUp

cyan sphinx
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cyan sphinx
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Well, I'm french, so I will have it, what is the difference between the two ?

cyan sphinx
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nice

polar kelp
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Also some convo you guys had up there

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I don't think I would ever spend more than like 2k on source gear

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I've heard a couple sub kilobuck cans from a Prism converter and Neve RNHP and I don't really think any headphone would need better

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Except maybe power-wise cos stuff like K1K exists

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As for headphones, with this much cash you just get whatever your ears like

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Stuff like Abyss or Final Audio is a meme tho

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I finally demoed ADX5K and a couple Focals fairly recently. I feel like they're all my sensible endgame that will actually work for dailying as opposed to monstrosities like HE1K that I can't even begin to imagine sitting on my head for more than an hour

polar kelp
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Based

sterile pine
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shhould I?

polar kelp
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I wouldn't

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Cringe tuning

radiant creek
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Rate my audio setup

solar swallow
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What am I looking at

radiant creek
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yes

cyan sphinx
radiant creek
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yes

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this is a indeed a rating

cyan sphinx
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Is that a speaker ? A microphone thing ? What is it ?

radiant creek
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It's the speakers of a salvaged beats mixr headset shoved into a custom made pillow

cyan sphinx
radiant creek
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No need for an amp they're plenty loud as it is if I use my tiny mp3 player

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And I only use about 60% volume to hear things pretty loud

cyan sphinx
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You know that speakers drivers are just a few bucks ?

radiant creek
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I did not know that. Although I never had a need for it

cyan sphinx
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You never had the need for it, but you took out the guts of a headphone to do a speaker

radiant creek
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Oh right well I kinda got around that by just 3D printing a shell to cover the back of the speakers

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and then the front cover is just the default one

cyan sphinx
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What do you mean ?

radiant creek
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gimme 2 secs

cyan sphinx
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Ok

radiant creek
cyan sphinx
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Oh, ok

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Can't you print a thing to hold them ?

radiant creek
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wym?

cyan sphinx
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Might be a bit more practical than stabbing a pillow

cyan sphinx
radiant creek
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oh I gotcha. nah. If I did that I wouldn't really be able to use them for sleep and they would be super quiet given how I would need to place them much further away

cyan sphinx
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What ?

radiant creek
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Well how would a tripod set up work in this case?

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My idea here is by sticking them in my pillow I can get stereo sound and keep it comfortable for sleep

cyan sphinx
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Ohhh you sleep in it, that explain why you made it out of a pillow and why there is a big hole on the center, I was thinking you just used it like a computer speakers or whatever, and I did not get why you would put them in a pillow then

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Makes a bit more sense

radiant creek
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LOL

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I was wondering where you were going with that

cyan sphinx
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I didn't know people do that, I just bought earbuds personnaly, it's the only reason why I bought my moondrop chu

radiant creek
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yeah no I may be stupid but I'm not insane enough to turn it into my speaker setup lol

cyan sphinx
radiant creek
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I never could use earbuds for multiple reasons. But the main thing is I like to side sleep so that would just result in me pressing the earbuds deeper into my ear as I slept and waking up with intense pain

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tbh I just can't use earbuds in general anymore

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my ears are too sensitive

cyan sphinx
radiant creek
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radiant creek
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well those are nice too but I don't like those pillows and since I had this block of foam sitting around for like a year in my closet I figured I may as well use it. Also I wanted to make this custom one because I find myself going through all 3 different sleeping positions while I sleep so making sure my neck is properly supported and not bent at weird angles while I sleep played a big part in the design

cyan sphinx
# radiant creek oooh that's neat

It is extra jank and it sounds like crap, and you need to be real close to hear it, but yeah, he used a broken electric water gun to just shoot water in the air, and because aerodynamic and crap are a thing, the droplets don't all fall at the exact same time, so you need to know the music to recognise it

radiant creek
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sounds like a complicated project

cyan sphinx
cyan sphinx
radiant creek
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lol fair

cyan sphinx
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I said him that making the gun shoot down might be a better bet, because then the water will not have to go up then down and having to fight aerodynamics, and add something to give some resonance, and he did not respond

radiant creek
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Well that's a good point, maybe he wants it to be more visually cool looking though hence why he would want it to go straight up

cyan sphinx
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Probably, also, while you are here, do you have an idea where I could buy some tiny keyboard switches ?

radiant creek
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keyboard switches huh

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Fraid not. Unless you mean something like those tiny buttons used in things like gameboys

cyan sphinx
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Idk, I'm trying to put a raspberry pi in a calculator with a trackpad and keyboard, but regular switches are too fat to go in

radiant creek
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ah sounds like a super tight fit

cyan sphinx
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I know, but vacations are coming, and I don't really have anything to do of my life

radiant creek
cyan sphinx
# radiant creek ah sounds like a super tight fit

Well, I have a screen, a raspberry pi, a trackpad, a full keyboard and hopefully a battery in it, so yeah, but it's one of the chungus calculator, it's like the big TI ones, but because I'm on the other side of the world in France, it's from Casio

radiant creek
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ugh I was never good at removing the extra bits from links but it's these buttons

cyan sphinx
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Can they be hand wired like regular switches you think ?

radiant creek
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They operate like any other button I've used

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It's just you might want a cheap usb microscope to solder with because the terminals are a bit hard to see with the naked eye

cyan sphinx
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Yeah, but if I wire them like keyboard switches, will it be recognised like any other switches ?

cyan sphinx
radiant creek
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yeah that'd probably help. just keep in mind you'd probably want to get like twice as many as you think you do since they're pretty easy to mess up

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also lol

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while we were talking I just finished putting doom on my mp3 player

cyan sphinx
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How much SPF ? (Second per frames)

radiant creek
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no clue but it's actually pretty smooth surprisingly

cyan sphinx
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How ? I put it on my calculator (the sacrificial one that will have its guts removed) and I had like 5fps

radiant creek
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beats me man this mp3 player is from like 2005 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

cyan sphinx
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And, how do you control it, it looks extremely small

radiant creek
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it's got small buttons

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here I'll upload a clip one sec

cyan sphinx
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Ok

radiant creek
cyan sphinx
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What is happening to the screen ?

radiant creek
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it's emulating the position of everything

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bit difficult to do when there are only two colors available

cyan sphinx
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Why is it just dots like that ?

radiant creek
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low resolution screen

cyan sphinx
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Yeah, but It's not doing it when you select the game

radiant creek
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yeah that's true. but it's doing more than showing static text on the screen for doom

cyan sphinx
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Fair enought

radiant creek
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Not entirely sure how it works myself

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but it works so I'm happy

cyan sphinx
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Why use your pc when you can have a worst experience on a MP3 driver old enought to drive and be even happier

radiant creek
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fr

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alright it's 4 am I should probably sleep now

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gn man

cyan sphinx
solar swallow
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Managed to get the Ploopys to sound less BRRRRBBOOMBOOM on my Stack. They sound very poggies.

fringe escarp
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ITS HAPPENING

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FINALLY

cyan sphinx
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Amazing

solar swallow
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Without EQ they sound like bombs are dropping in your street

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Which is why it also comes with a Amp/Dac ootb. I just wanted to use the ones I owned already so I needed to EQ them.

cyan sphinx
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ok

obsidian coral
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Started making a test rig. Random head and silicon ears. 711 coupler from China. I think we’re in business

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I wanna use it for testing VR headsets and headphone accessories (including the ones I make)

solar swallow
cyan sphinx
polar kelp
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Not the GRAS Alibaba clone coupler

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Disappointed

fringe escarp
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Crying for my bank

lone sand
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OOP

lone sand
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can someone recommend me a wireless headset, preferably 2.4ghz but low latency Bluetooth is ok. good battery life (50+ hours) with good noise isolation and/or cancelling, good enough sound (idc about technical shit, if it's decently flat then good) and I'm not paying a premium for hifi or brand or anything like that. idc if it's a gaming headset or whatever. budget is like 200-300$

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have fun

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so far the ones that I've found that fit my criteria best are Logitech G pro x 2 lightspeed, razer blsckshark v2 pro 2023 or on the Bluetooth side, audiotechnica m20xbt but I'm hoping to get more recommendations cuz, there has to be more than like 3 headsets that aren't annoyingly bad

lone sand
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comfort is also a big deal for me, good padding in the headband (no floating thing) and nice fluffy earcups

lone sand
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i ended on the Sony xm5

fringe escarp
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👍

lone sand
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i want avantone mixcubes or auratone 5c or an ns10 rake

radiant creek
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Alright, what do you guys think about those DIY headphones, the Ploopy headphones. They seem like a good thing to build?

solar swallow
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Fun project but not perfect. I have 4 issues with it.

  1. They require quite a bit of power (supplied through the DSP but hard to run through other amps) so make sure to have a USB port that can supply the power. I've seen report of people having issues with that. (perhaps through a powered-hub it would be a non-issue)
  2. This might be because of me since I built themThey sound good however I had clipping issues with mine, mostly when watching videos on Youtube.
  3. They don't get loud.
  4. If you don't wanna run the DSP and have a powerful enough AMP you will need to tune them yourself cause they otherwise sound terrible.

TLDR: Use them with the DSP.

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I generally like them though. I still use them from time to time but I main some OMEGA by DMS now.

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For 150$CAD they are pretty insane value imo

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I hope they make a V2 that fixes those issues though I would 100% build a pair again.

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Oh also they don't clamp very hard so I can't headbang as hard with them 😩

radiant creek
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Did they ever say they intend on making a v2?

solar swallow
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I don't think so but I would like them to

radiant creek
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Now my finger is just hovering over the buy button. @solar swallow do you know if there is a community where I can find other headphone designs people made?

solar swallow
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No idea, I was watching the Ploopy subreddit and found out about it but I know there are a couple other designs. I haven't checked them out though.

radiant creek
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Fair enough

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I appreciate the input at least

radiant creek
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The one thing I wish they would do is at least sell just the hardware without the 3D printed parts

solar swallow
radiant creek
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I guess, but I still feel like they'll add that on to the overall cost just because of the labor involved

solar swallow
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It is what it is. Also from what I've seen some of the parts are hard to print.

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But I'm aware it's been mentioned a couple of times in their reddit

radiant creek
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Welp I caved

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Time to see if they sound better than my AKG k240 studio

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Hate the headstrap though, I'm going to see if I can modify that to be a lot better

solar swallow
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have fun with it 🫡

radiant creek
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Ah the tuning software

solar swallow
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I'm not sure if the default firmware supports it now so you might have to change it but it's super easy.

radiant creek
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Sounds good I appreciate it!

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Oh that reminds me

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I heard from some people that the headphones are a little on the quieter side is that true?

solar swallow
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Yes, they do get loud-ish but not as much as other headphones I had. They'll start clipping really quickly.

radiant creek
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hmm

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I wonder if this mod is any good for that then

solar swallow
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Unless you're in a very loud household it should be fine though.

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Worth a try

radiant creek
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Nah my household isn't too loud thankfully, but I figure being able to make it a little louder would help for some songs with quieter tones or games possibly

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Oh wait do you know the size of the earcups by any chance?

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Just want to figure out of this headband I'm going to get would even be compatable

solar swallow
radiant creek
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gracias

solar swallow
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The cups are large though.

radiant creek
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thats fine, the headband is for very large headphones anyway, Just want to get an idea of what kind of modifcation I may need to make

solar swallow
radiant creek
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all appreciated thank you!

solar swallow
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Also a note with my unit. The cable doesn't seem to be entirely standard. I have the L/R channels on different rings. I believe it might have been fixed in hardware now but I thought I'd mention it in case it wasn't.

radiant creek
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good to know!

solar swallow
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So on the ploopy it would sound fine but on other headphones both L/R would sound like they were from the Left channel.

radiant creek
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ah

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well that should be alright, chances are this will be the daily driver and I'll just give my old headphones to my sister or something

solar swallow
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I hope you like them as much as I do (I'm not a Ploopy shill I swear INTENSEFLASHBACKS )

radiant creek
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lol, I'm sure I'll love it

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And it totally wont be buyers remorse causing me to be forced to like them

solar swallow
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Well at least it's not that expensive of a project for 129CAD

radiant creek
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I suppose so

radiant creek
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There we go, headband arrived before the headphones did but I found a good way to make them compatible.

radiant creek
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Exactly, unfortunately I won't know for sure if it works until next week.

radiant creek
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Box!!!

radiant creek
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@solar swallow IT'S FINISHED!!!!!

solar swallow
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LETTTSSSS GOOO

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lookin' clean

radiant creek
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tyy

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So far loving the sound

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just going back and forth with my normal headphones now to heard the difference

solar swallow
radiant creek
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Time for a volume test!

solar swallow
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So how are you finding the volume

radiant creek
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what?

solar swallow
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one post above

radiant creek
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WHAT?

radiant creek
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also yee volume good

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Not sure what people were complaining about when they said the audio was low

solar swallow
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The only moment where I wish they were a bit louder is when I had lots of noise. In somewhat calm environment they are definitly fine if you have undamaged earings.